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Check this out. At least 10 other Knicks fans with courtside seats had been called by the Cavaliers executive and told they no longer had seats. After those fans were informed they no longer had court size seats. The Cavs relocated them to a higher section inside the arena for Game 4, a Cavalier spokesman said. Playoff Courtside seating is governed by a specific agreement that prohibits resale or transfer of tickets without approval. All courtside ticket holders are required to comply with terms of a single game playoff agreement. They've been doing. Oh, look, I guarantee you they've been. They've been selling. They sold tickets for the Detroit game. They sold tickets for who else the Cavaliers play or who the Capital play. The first round. Got Detroit played Orlando. Who? Toronto. Yeah, Toronto. I guarantee you. Nah, you ain't gonna move me nowhere. This is my seat. I paid for that one Cub. Come on with it. And I won a hundred thousand. A hundred thousand million dollars for my ticket back.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Cause I was wondering why. I was like, hold on now. I know, because I think they had Spike Lee and Timothy Chalamet. I think they was like the second or third rows. I said, I know Spike. I ain't never seen Spike sit on anything. So I was like, well, damn. Like that was go. Like that was gonna change something.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, that's what. That's what I was saying we supposed to do in Atlanta, man, keep their ass up. It's like a damn home game for the Knicks.
Joe
Look, the Knicks are like the Cowboys, Joe. They travel. They're gonna travel. They're gonna take your bill. You know, some teams travel. The Steelers, they travel. Green Bay, they travel.
Justin Termize
They tr.
Joe
I mean, teens. Some teams just travel. They have fan bases. Because at one point in time, they were really, really good. And so guess what? Those grandparents, the kids became fans. And their kids. Kids became fans. So when they got grown, Ocho and Joe, and moved out on their own, they're still fans of the Packers. They're still fans of the Steelers, of the Cowboys. Same thing with the Knicks. So that's why it's really so hard to get teams. Because unless your team start winning now, the Patriots. Let's think about all the kids that was born in the 2000. From 2000 to 2019. Ocho. All they know is winning.
Ocho
Winnie. Yeah.
Joe
So guess what? Those kids, kids, Patriots fans. Because that's what you got with the Steelers. Because of the Steelers in the 70s, all they did was win. The Cowboys, they won. And so guess what? And when they moved and spread out. Oh, the Steelers coming to town. The packers coming to town. The Cowboys coming to town. Let's go. They sell out the building. Same thing with the Knicks. Same thing with the Lakers. Y' all gotta realize that. I mean, think about it. That's, that's how the Lakers are. Oh yeah, everybody, The Showtime Lakers, that's all they win. They went to nine championships and they, they went to nine NBA finals in a 12 year period. Damn, they were good in the 60s. They lost eight straight times to the Celtics, but they were good. It's the Knicks NBA final ticket prices are already reaching historic levels. Games three and four, Madison Square Garden have now the most expensive NBA Finals tickets ever recorded. The current get in price is 3075. $3745 to get in. You way up there. Game four is $3464 to get in. You're gonna be way up there. I saw some court size tickets. I sent you the thing, Joe. 221,000 courtside. Hey, hold on, Joe. After the Knicks took a 3, 0 lead, two tickets for courtside seats at center court at Madison Square garden were listed. $595,000.
Uncle Joe
Somebody gonna pay it too. Fellas,
Joe
Think about those sweets. Ocho. Those sweets be going for a million. Million five, two million.
Ocho
Absolutely.
Joe
And guess what? They all be sold out, don't they?
Ocho
Every time.
Joe
The thing is, what the people don't know is that if you got a suite, let's just say the, the super bowl coming to Atlanta, Mercedes Benz, which it will be not this year, because it's in Sofi. The year after it's going to be in Mercedes Benz years. You got a suite of Mercedes Benz, the Super bowl come there, you ain't got that suite. The NFL take no, that's crazy. So if you want it by your suite that you've been sitting there for every game. Come on, man.
Ocho
Hey, right, Hey, a ticket, a courtside ticket. Joke basketball game for 500,000. You know the type, you know the type of disposable income you got to be making to be able to say, you know what, I'm gonna go to the game and watch basketball for three hours and just. Here, here, go find a thousand. It's okay.
Uncle Joe
It's gonna be who's who.
Joe
Yeah, hey. And with the exception of the, the celebs, you don't know half the people there. But the guy that I was sliding to, he's like, hey man, you know you want, blah, blah, blah. He said, yeah, but I took, I took the helicopter down from Orange County, I landed on you at usc, Ubered over and you know, once the game over, I'll Uber back over, get in the helicopter and go back.
Uncle Joe
Hey, that's different type of paper, man.
Joe
I mean, yeah, obviously Some, you know, Jimmy I. And you see Eddie Murphy. I mean, lots of. A lot of them, you know, but it's the ones that you like. Who are you?
Ocho
Hey.
Joe
And what do you do? Hell, I know what I paid for the ticket.
Ocho
They sitting heavy, boy.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Joe
But it'd be a. It got to be a great feeling to be that kind of fan. To be able and. And to, like, grow up. That been my team. And to have them go and to have them, you know, to have your team go and you got the means to go to a game. Hell, like Spike Lee been a Nick fan for the 70s. Jack. Jack really was the first people that they just started showing at the Laker game. Yeah. And his son's got his seat. Sons look just like it. Son. Look just like Jack, but. And you just pass it down. I mean, that's why, you know, a Packer. The season tickets, they just pass them down through generation and generation. Cause the waiting list, 30, 40,000 people deep.
Uncle Joe
Hey, the Knicks fans been waiting for this for a long time, fellas.
Joe
27 years. Yeah. To get.
Uncle Joe
Just to get back there. They've been waiting for this.
Joe
27. And think about they hadn't won a championship. What, 73.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Joe
They won 169. 70. And then they won again in 73. That's the last time. So we were damn near, you know, 50 plus years. Damn.
Ocho
How long?
Joe
Cowboys championship. Spike Lee gonna cry like a baby. Spike Lee gonna do a documentary. I guarantee you they win the championship. Spike.
Uncle Joe
See, he on. He gonna drop. Yeah, he gonna drop something. What's up, man?
Ocho
How long it's been since the car that.
Uncle Joe
Oh, no, I'm saying. Don't start there, bro. Come on, baby.
Joe
I'm not trying to talk about that.
Ocho
No, Unc said they had once said 73 to Nick, so I was just kissing. That's your favorite team, though.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, man. It's been a while. Ocho, what it's been about. What it's been about. It's been about 30 years.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Okay. Oh, yeah. Y' all about. Dude, he was 15.
Joe
I mean, damn, Joe, you about 14. You remember that?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Ocho. What? Y' all Bengals? When last time y' all done something?
Ocho
We were just.
Uncle Joe
No, I said, when the last time had y' all done something?
Ocho
You didn't hear me?
Joe
Joe, we just do something.
Ocho
I just told you five years ago.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, talking about we.
Joe
I mean.
Ocho
I mean, five years as opposed to
Joe
Goddamn, what you mean?
Uncle Joe
Cuz y' all got there. They ain't done nothing.
Ocho
Well, I mean, y' all ain't done nothing either.
Uncle Joe
Well, I'm saying y' all just as close as us. Hell you talking about? Cause we got that five years, man, by trying to hear all that, man.
Ocho
All right, you know what? We'll see this year. We'll see this year, huh? I don't. I don't think you understand how much we've improved defensively.
Joe
We gonna stick the basketball.
Uncle Joe
Our defense gonna be better, y'.
Ocho
All.
Joe
Hey, let's take a look at the streets. Let's take a look at the streets in New York right now.
Ocho
Wow, they having a time out there, boy.
Joe
Hey, look here. Hey, I might have a time, but I. I can't go to jail. I ain't gonna lie, y'. All.
Uncle Joe
I can't go to jail. It's plenty of people going to jail tonight.
Joe
Hey, hey, if I'm standing on something, say, son, get down. I'mma hop down.
Ocho
Yeah,
Joe
you ain't got to tell me twice. Hell, no, I can't go to jail.
Ocho
Hey, you know, those going to jail, they not even tripping. They not even tripping.
Joe
Damn long.
Ocho
As long as they out before the first, bro.
Uncle Joe
Listen, listen, listen.
Joe
They'll be out. The boarding, they probably get. That's probably good.
Uncle Joe
Hey, listen, we talk about if the Knicks, you know, make it to the finals. We kind of. We kind of expected this. Imagine them winning, bro. I can't even imagine that part. They win.
Joe
Oh, my gosh.
Ocho
Hey,
Joe
if they win, do y'. All.
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you where Jalen Brunson will be? Do y' all understand the mythical that? I mean, you put it with Jerry Jeter, you put it with the great legends. Yeah, I mean think about, think about. Like you said, Joe Ocho, they haven't won a championship in 50 plus years. And Earl to Pearl and Clyde and Willis Reed. Those guys are still and half the people weren't alive when they won and they're still revered. Can you imagine Jalen Brunson winning a championship? Oh my.
Uncle Joe
They gonna clown. They gonna clown. They gonna clown, man.
Ocho
Oh, that's gonna be crazy.
Joe
I mean it's something about winning a title For a town. They never forget you. They never forget you. I mean, kids. I mean, they. I mean, some of the kids. When I go back to Denver, I go back to ball. Oh, Joe, that kid 20. You weren't even born when I won. Somebody told you I was on the team? I just went to a function. Sunday was a week ago, man. Thank you for bringing that championship, man. You don't. Hey, the. The blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, man. Hey, if you ever in Baltimore, here, take my car. Take that, bro. It's. It's an unbelievable fee. It's an unbelievable feeling what a championship does for a city. And people love you now. And that's why a lot of guys. That's why a lot of guys still live in the city in which they played, right?
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And I. I totally understand me being the recluse that I am, that, like, you know, like privacy, like a little anonymity, you know. Hey, I loaded up the thing like the Beverly Hill better. I headed. Headed out of town, but, man, it's there. There ain't no greater feeling to. Than to be beloved by the city in which you play. Now, everybody doesn't win a championship, and you still can be beloved because all they want to know is that you played hard.
Ocho
That's it.
Joe
That's it.
Uncle Joe
Yep.
Joe
You played hard. Man. Joey Nick's going crazy, man.
Uncle Joe
It's gonna be ugly.
Joe
That's gonna be. Hey, that's crazy, boy. The Knicks partied like in 1999. Well, I don't. Hey, Joe. Hey, how Joe. I mean, hell, you was. How old were you in 99, Joe?
Uncle Joe
Now, I was a senior in high school. Yeah, I graduated 99.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. See, you all know nothing about that. See, I would party like it was 1999.
Uncle Joe
You were going hard in the paint in 99.
Joe
I was dreaming when I wrote this. Prince say I was dreaming when I wrote this. Forgive me if I go astray
Uncle Joe
hey,
Joe
the way they say the world will go in that's what they said. Yeah. So in the famous words of the Joker, go, go, go with a smile.
Ocho
Go with a smile.
Joe
It ain't nothing happened.
Uncle Joe
I was scared.
Joe
People spend all that money. Oh, we ain't never had those zeros on the calendar. And they don't know that the computer's gonna malfunction. They spent all that money, and guess what? The sun went down. And we got up and our black ass went to work.
Uncle Joe
Yep.
Ocho
Nothing happened.
Joe
A damn thing happened. But they had a fool. Yeah, check this out. We found out the dumb dumb that left wimby off the first team all NBA. Here's Justin Termize explanation. Bear with us. Chat. It's two minutes long, but we needed you to hear his full explanation.
Justin Termize
First, let me say this. I voted for Wembanyama, third for mvp. And I actually think he's a better player than sga. I think he is the best player in the world right now. But I thought Jokic had a better regular season at the same position. But I absolutely love this kid. I think he has a chance to be the best player of all time, to be the best defensive player of all time. I love his attitude. I love his game. I love how he shows emotion. I love how he handles the media. I love how he shows disdain for his opponents. I'm a massive fan of Victor Wembanyama, but this year he was the second best center and I vote by position. Now here is the explanation as to why I vote by position. In my opinion, it is unfair historically to those that came before us, who I have great respect for, that those guys at center were not allowed to be on the first team at the same time. Right? So it's unfair to Wilton Russell and all the other guys who couldn't make first team at the same time just because somebody played the same position as him. They just changed the rule recently because, you know, basically Embiid had been the second best player for a couple of years, but he had to keep making second teams because Jokic was better. But in my opinion, that's not fair to the centers of the past who got screwed. So how's that fair to Wilton Russell that they didn't make first team all NBA Every single year of their career they had to basically go back and forth, trading it off because they both played the center position. Whereas nowadays they would just both make first team like everybody else just voted for Jokic and Wembanyama first team all NBA. So to me it's unfair that guys today should get to make it because the rules have changed. So I vote by position in order to protect the older generation and the history of the sport. If you don't think that's logical, I don't know what to tell you.
Ocho
How is he protecting the history of the sport?
Joe
Because. Because in the years past you voted a point guard, a shooting guard, a small forward, a power forward in the center. Yeah, they changed the rule. They said you vote for the five best players. Ocho, Joe. What did they do now? Joe? How did they pick the All Star game? They picked the best players. It ain't no we got to take a center, we got to take a power forward. We got to. Under his, under his logic, the speed limit. They changed the speed limit. The speed limit used to be 55. So under his logic, how is it fair that somebody got a ticket at George going 60 and now the speed limit is 70? But this team, they get escaped. That's why they changed the rules, because they said, look, there are better players. If they said, if we got five players that are better, we're going to have five centers. If we got five point guards, we got five twos. Whatever happens, it is so logic. It's so illogical for him to say, I'm trying to protect the sanctity of the game. No, you're not. All you did was ruin a moment for a kid.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, trying to overthink, trying to analyze, try and.
Joe
Yeah, he got a point. Unfortunately, the point is on top of his head, right?
Ocho
Hey, Uncle Joe, when trying to be too intelligent, go.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Trying to be too smart goes wrong. Just doing too damn much.
Joe
Yes. The objective is, is that that's how. Think about it. That's how you gotta look at all. What do they have. Oh, so under his lot. All the, all the guy, all the other guys, you got two bigs and three point guards. That is why they changed it, Joe. They got tired of saying, you know what, we're leaving some good players off. There's some players making it that's not as good as the guy that's on the second team. Right. In order to make it fair, because we want the best guys, they said we're going to change the rules. This wasn't just this year. I can see if they say this has been an effect in. This has been the way it's been done for like the last two or three years. If I'm not mistaken, Chad, correct me
Shaquille O'Neal
if I'm wrong,
Joe
it's the same thing when somebody left Griffey Jr. Off of his ballot and they ended up losing their right to vote. Griffey should have been the first unanimous player into the hall, but it was Mariano and I love a mo. Hey, earned it. He was the greatest closer, big time player come up in big moments. But see, this is what I'm talking about, Joe. And this is why guys get upset at voters because they do too much. The same guy that took that one vote away from Shaq, that same guy that took that one vote away from LeBron, this is the same guy. Let me tell, man, ain't nobody talking about no damn Chamberlain and Russell.
Ocho
Yeah. Wait, that was.
Joe
Do you understand how long. Chamberlain, Russell. That was in the 60s. You weren't alive. Why are you trying to hold on to something that you don't know anything about?
Ocho
Wait, this is the same person.
Joe
No, he's saying because back in the 60s, you had to vote one. So Russell and Chamberlain kept knocking each other off the ballot. So it wouldn't be fair for those guys not to make it one year. And the other one guy was first team, the other guy was second team. And when we get an opportunity to make it.
Ocho
No, I was asking you the. The individuals that messed it up for Shaq, the individual that messed it up for LeBron. Is this the same person?
Joe
No. No.
Ocho
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Joe
No, it's crazy. I mean. And he thought he gave a valid explanation. Rules change when the rules change. I grew up, you know, Joe, When I grew up, you know what the drinking age was? 18. 18 years old. You can go in the store and buy liquor. You could go buy cigarettes. As a matter of fact, you went to the right place, you'd be 14 to buy everything. But that's neither here nor there. But I'm saying legally at 18, right. They changed the rules, these mothers, against drunk drivers. I mean, kids were getting drunk and we know. And they changed it. It says 21 now.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
This man talk about a rule that they changed two to three years ago. And he's going back to the 60s.
Uncle Joe
Analytics took over, bro. They took over, huh?
Joe
I don't get it. I. I just. I. I don't get it, Joe. And his. And he. And the thing was, he's knew the rules. He said they changed the rules, Joe. It's not like he said, well, you know what? I voted. I didn't know that I could vote women. I could vote 2 centers or 3 centers or whatever the case may be. He knew the rules.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. It's hard for me to believe he didn't know.
Joe
He knew. He thought about. He didn't think it was fair. Fair is where you ride the Ferris wheel and get cotton candy. They drudge pigs at a fair. They judge goats at a fair. There's a bearded lady in the tent at the fair. Give a person what he or she deserves, not what is fair.
Uncle Joe
Damn. So because of him, Wemby won unanimous.
Joe
Wimby got 499. You needed 500. Yeah. So Shay and, And, and, and, and. And Jokic were unanimous.
Uncle Joe
And basically, you can't put two centers on the, on the.
Joe
You can. You could put five centers on there. You can put Five point guards. You can put five.
Uncle Joe
His scale meaning like he's saying he's going off history.
Joe
Where before you. It's kind of like the All Star Game, Joe. Remember the All Star game? You had to take a point.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
A two, a three, a four, and a five. Now you just take whatever.
Uncle Joe
It's different now, bro.
Joe
Oh, my goodness. I love how people talking about. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal to you because you weren't the one. That was not. That was not something was taken away from. See, I love, I love how people and things don't impact. You know what it's like, Joe, when you have, when somebody have surgery. Oh, he had a minor surgery. You notice minor surgery is always on someone else. But you have major surgery.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
You got an ingrown toenail. Oh, man, I had. I had surgery, man. You had an ingrown toenail. That man, he, he, he. He had earned that. He didn't deserve it. He earned it based on his play. And then you see what he did. You see Ojo? Did you hear what he tried to do? I voted him for third in the mvp. I voted him defensive player of the year. All trying to justify. See, I ain't got no ax to grind with him.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Nobody ask you all that. All they ask you is say why. Why did you leave him off knowing the rules were what they were
Ocho
trying to be too smart. That's messed up. The only person I want to be, the oddball.
Joe
It's, it's, it's. I mean, think about it. In the history of the game, Steph Curry is the only unanimous mvp. Not Wilt, not Russell, not Bird, not Magic, not Kareem, not Shaq, not LeBron, not Kobe, not Jokic, not Steph Curry. You don't think that matters?
Ocho
Absolutely.
Joe
For the longest time we've only. I mean, Brady was the first unanimous mvp then Lamar, and Lamar liked to run it again. He might have did. He might have been with it unanimously. I think he might have been a vote short. He might have been a two time unanimous mvp. But he and Brady are the only two that's ever won a unanimous mvp.
Ocho
Right?
Joe
This is crazy, man. God, you. You overthinking it. It's not that complicated. They say you put the five bests on there. That's what they say. That's the rules. They changed the rules.
Ocho
They gonna find a way to complicate it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, Yeah.
Joe
I don't know. All I can say is women just come back and they try to Improve and, and try to get it so he come back. What I say just cut. Try to come back and improve and no doubt.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, hell, he ain't leave no doubt this year.
Joe
He didn't. But I'm just saying. Nothing we could do about it now, Ocho. It's kind of like Asia Wilson. Asia felt she should have won the MVP the year Stewie got it. She said, I got something for y' all ass. Guess what? Back to back mvps. Take this one. The only player to ever score a thousand points in the season in WNBA history. He said, you know what? I'm gonna back it up again. Lead the league in scoring, as a matter of fact. And y' all robbed me one time for the defensive player of the year. I'mma come get it again. And I'm g. Get the. And I'm. Hey, I'm taking sweepstakes. I'm getting it all. I'm winning a championship. I'm getting the mvp. I'm getting defensive player of the Year and I'm getting finals mvp. Now run tail that.
Ocho
I like it.
Joe
Come on. Now. I'm rooting for Whiby. That will be gonna be my guy. And I'm, I'm a Yokichi Luca fan.
Uncle Joe
New kid in town.
Joe
But now I gotta root for women because I want him to get unanimous.
Uncle Joe
It's a new kid. Hey, it's a new kid on the block, bro. Y' all gonna have to get with the program.
Joe
Yes, but guys, I understand the history of all sports. I really do. But if they change the rule. Oh, Joe, they changed the rules in baseball. A guy can challenge a strike now. You couldn't challenge a strike before, so now what? Because the guy challenges strike and he gets it, you, you're gonna, you're gonna look at him differently. They used to didn't have replays. I, I, I think, I think as, as, as, as, as the game evolves and they implement changes to the game, you have to evolve with it. You can't stay in the antiquated way.
Uncle Joe
Absolutely.
Joe
It's the same thing, Joe, with a woman. You remember how your mom and your dad and how they did things. That's not the way it is now. No, you can't think that way. You're gonna set yourself up every time and disappointment. If somebody's willing to do things that your mom or your grandma or your great grandma or, or your auntie did for their husband or their right, bless your heart, you're lucky. But if they don't, that's his no thank time change. They evolve and you have to evolve with them.
Uncle Joe
Absolutely.
Joe
Bam. Wimby. Feel bad for Wimby the wimp. The Lakers reportedly have a new assistant general manager who is literally, I mean he's literally a rocket scientist as head of the important off season. As they head into the important off season, Lakers hired New Orleans Pelican vice president of strategy and operations Rohan Ramadas to be the assistant gm. Ramadas will be under team president Rob Pelinka in his new role ahead of the 2024 season. The Pelicans announced they elevated Ramadas to senior director of analytics and innovation after he spent seven years as an analytics consultant for the team. He was also the draft analyst for the Miami heat during the 201617 campaign. According to the Pelicans announcement, Spent5 spent the past 12 years supporting aerospace corporations, U.S. space Force and NASA as as a rocket guidance, navigation, control and missions design engineer, one Pelican source told Dave McMenamin and Shams. He's literally a rocket scientist and he used AI encoded models to help the New Orleans pellet front office help him. What are they trying to put somebody in space?
Ocho
What does that have to do with what does that have to do with winning and playing basketball?
Joe
Well, hey, maybe they're trying to put. Maybe they're trying to go up in space. Joe, what is this, man?
Uncle Joe
I have no clue.
Ocho
So that's your fault.
Uncle Joe
That is my fault, Joe.
Ocho
I don't know, Joe. I gotta have. I need somebody to blame. So I'm just blame you. We try, we try to. We trying to win games over here. They bringing in someone.
Uncle Joe
I'm saying he must have done a good job for New Orleans, bringing in players or something. Why did the Lakers hire him?
Joe
Do you see the players?
Uncle Joe
That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. I'm like, damn, what did he do for me to be like, I'm happy for the Lakers? I don't know.
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I guess he's smart. I mean, if they try. Look, if they tried to put people in space, that's the guy I would call. But as a basketball, what is your eyes.
Uncle Joe
That's what I'm saying, bro.
Joe
What does your eyes tell you? How does he fit what you're trying to do?
Ocho
Hey, hey.
Uncle Joe
Normally when they make changes like this, you know, they bring in assistant GM help and all this, that mean it's been something. It's been, hey, it's going to be some furniture moving. It's going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
And they base everything on analytics. Look here, I'm going to say, hey, Sam Preston, I'm stealing somebody for. You know what? I'm stealing somebody from okc. I'm stealing somebody from San Antonio. Because they seem to get it right. Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, at least copy what they do. Copy what they do.
Uncle Joe
What is hell?
Ocho
Hey, Joe. And you look at the NFL, right? Every owner should be trying to copy Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie in the way they operate everybody.
Joe
But when they go get coaches, where they go get them coaches from the Kyle Shanahan tree, the Mike Shanahan tree from Sean McVeigh. Hey, they get them from Matt LaFleur. They get them from Andy Reid. Why? Because those guys have success. Hello. When were the Pelicans last in the playoffs? When were the Pelicans last in the. In the chat, in the final.
Uncle Joe
That's what I'm saying.
Joe
I'm confused.
Uncle Joe
It must have been his partner or something. Man,
Joe
I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no. Look, look, I think the thing is, sometimes, like, when you run a business, you own a business, and, you know, you get people that you're comfortable with people lying out. Ocho. Joe. The way people lie on their resume now with this damn AI, that chat GPT. Oh, my goodness. Ocho.
Ocho
Well, you know, they're gonna do a background check. It's hard. It's hard to like. It's hard to lie on the res.
Joe
No, it's not, because that's your resume. How they gonna do a background check? You might have graduated, but you ain't do none of the stuff that you said.
Ocho
Yeah, well, you know, uncle, you got. You know, you got to put it down to reference, huh?
Joe
Ocho.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
Let me ask you a question. If somebody called and said, man, Ocho. Ocho said he would club. She was with Nightcap for 10 years. Ocho was great, man. You might have been a jerk. Man, Ocho was unbelievable. Always on time. He ain't never late. The one thing Ocho gonna do, he gonna work hard now.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Everything that he got, he entertaining. So see. Yeah, yeah, see, I did that up. Hey, when I leave, I ain't gonna say nothing bad about you. You don't say nothing bad about me.
Uncle Joe
We watch the movie, right?
Joe
I'm just trying to figure out what does a rocket scientist have to do with basketball.
Uncle Joe
Man, listen, when you look over there on them, on them benches, it's more assistant coaches and damn analytical people sitting over there than it's ever been ever in the history of the game. It's. Damn them. It's more coaches. Damn near them players. Now I'm talking about, look at the first two rows by the head. Coaching right behind him. Yes, bro, it's so many coaches nowadays.
Joe
You right. You're absolutely right. Well, look, I don't know what he has to do, but the Lakers have done a terrible job of drafting players. So, hell, I guess you try anything, Think about it. The best player they've gotten in the last probably decade is an undrafted free agent, Austin Reeves. Yeah, let that sink in for just a second. Just for a second chat. Let that sink in. The best player that the let, they didn't draft him is Austin Reeves.
Uncle Joe
No question. No question.
Joe
Oh, my goodness. Damn Lakers. Well, you know what?
Uncle Joe
Gotta think positive. Think positive.
Joe
I'm thinking about where LeBron going.
Uncle Joe
He may just end up staying in LA, bro.
Joe
Oh, Lord have mercy. Because I'm have to move my Laker jersey. I have to move my Laker jerseys around.
Uncle Joe
You know, he ain't gonna.
Joe
Okay, they can't be.
Uncle Joe
He ain't gonna tell nobody when he gonna bust no move. You just gonna have to see him busting it. Yeah.
Joe
Hey, you gonna find out like everybody gonna find at the same time.
Uncle Joe
Yeah,
Joe
that's. That's. That's one thing. Oh, my goodness. Lakers, what have you done? James Harden was asked after the game on if the Knicks are better than the CAVS. It was 4 0, but I don't think we had a chance as far as our best shot. Genuinely, I do feel like we are a better team series wise. We didn't show it.
Ocho
Wait, he said wait. They lost four zero, they got swept. But they still feel like they were the better team series wise. Even though you lost said series.
Uncle Joe
He sounds like his damn head coach without the analytical man.
Joe
Come on.
Ocho
So the analytics said you were better, but you still got swept and bad. So analytics. Analytics is messing up basketball. Damn near.
Joe
Analytics is messing up sports because it doesn't take it. It doesn't take into consideration momentum.
Ocho
Momentum.
Joe
All it does is you punch it in numbers. Well, what about the momentum of the game? What. What coaches used to coach on gut. Now analytics say we should go for it. Analytics say we should punt it. Analytics say we should.
Uncle Joe
Analytics say we should shoot more threes than two. What.
Joe
If they had lost one game? You know what, Joe Ocho, if the series was that first game, maybe I'll be. I would probably believe James Harden. I say, you know what they were had a little slip up. Things happen, right? But when you get beat like this every game after game one, how can you even fix your mouth to say that you think that you think you can't lose by 37 points. Ain't no way you can lose by 37 points and think you were a better team. Ain't no way you could lose in the manner in which they lost the other day. And thank you, a better team. There's no way in hell that you think you can get blown out and get. None of the games were even close, Joe, after game one, they ended up losing game one by game one was so.
Uncle Joe
It was too demoralizing, man. I'm telling you, it knocked them. Listen, it rattled them and they never were the same, bro. Like they hadn't been close to none of the damn games ever since.
Joe
Sometimes you just got to be honest.
Uncle Joe
Nah, we just ain't that damn good.
Joe
We, we.
Uncle Joe
Hey, we ain't got enough.
Joe
I like to think we're better. But at the end of the day, you are what your record says. Our record says 0 and 4 in the Eastern Conference finals. That's what we are. Yeah. And if there's very rare, there's a very, very rare occasion in which a team will lose us, win a series and not be the better team. Oh, Joe, how can I, Joe, how can I be lucky four times? I'm not going to hit no 3, two game winning shots. So even if I hit those game Winning shots. What happened to other two games I beat you? These games wasn't close. I can see if they were, you know, nip and tug a game here or there. What 37 point shot you got. If they say, okay, you guys hit five shots in a row from half court, you guys win game four. James Harden now has played 191 playoff game without a championship, which is two behind Karl Malone for the most in NBA history. Those two players are tied for the most playoff wins. 98 without a title. Mike Brown is back in the NBA Finals for the first time since 2007. The 19 year gap is the longest by a coach in league history. His 11 game playoff win streak is also the longest by head coach in his first season with a new team.
Uncle Joe
Shout out Mike Brown, bro.
Joe
Yeah, man.
Ocho
Perfect. Perfect situation.
Uncle Joe
Yep, yep. You. Hey, hey. He inherited a team that they just came off of them Eastern Conference. Yeah. Finals loss. And for him to be able to get them back there and get him to the Finals. Mike Brown, he gonna be. Hey, he gonna be stamped in New York too, huh?
Joe
Oh, yeah, Lord, absolutely. And I think the thing is, the thing is that. What he didn't do that. Tim's. Did he roll them into the ground. He grinds them down to the nubs. They got the guys playing 40 and 42 minutes in the regular season and then when they get to the postseason, they out of game.
Uncle Joe
And I think Mike Brown understood it. Space and pace, you know, using Cat to be the passer to initiate the offense and letting Brunson be more of like a AI guy, you know. I think he, he got it right with this one. They got a good thing going.
Joe
What's up?
Uncle Joe
You don't know what, what, what you saying? What's wrong? What's going on?
Joe
The calves and that performance that they
Ocho
put on, that was bad.
Uncle Joe
We can't. Hey, now we just. Now we.
Joe
They should have, they should have just let the. What you call. They should let Detroit. I think Detroit the game a better series than that.
Uncle Joe
The problem. The. The problem with Detroit, we know defensively they would have been there. It's just they ain't got enough damn firepower neither the score and keep up with the Knicks. But I think. I personally think it probably. It would have been a better series just due to the defense that they can, you know, at the level they can defend.
Joe
Get walked over. They're not gonna quit. Nope.
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Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Date: May 26, 2026
This episode of Nightcap dives into some of the hottest NBA topics: the Cleveland Cavaliers removing Knicks fans from courtside seats, record-breaking Finals ticket prices in New York, the controversy around an NBA awards voter's rationale for keeping Victor Wembanyama off the All-NBA First Team, and the Lakers' unexpected hire of a literal rocket scientist as their new Assistant GM. As always, Shannon Sharpe (Joe), Ochocinco, and "Uncle Joe" deliver their signature unfiltered banter, keeping things both insightful and wildly entertaining.
[02:30 – 04:02]
“Nah, you ain’t gonna move me nowhere. This is my seat. I paid for that one, Cub. Come on with it. And I want a hundred thousand—a hundred thousand million dollars for my ticket back.” (03:21)
“Some teams just travel. They have fan bases… their grandkids became fans. So when they got grown… they’re still fans of the Packers, still fans of the Steelers, of the Cowboys. Same thing with the Knicks.” (04:12)
[05:06 – 09:46]
Crazy Prices:
Perspective on Wealth and Fandom:
“A courtside ticket to a basketball game for $500,000… You know the type of disposable income you got to be making to just say, ‘Here, go $500,000’?” – Ocho (07:48)
Generational Fandom:
Historical Drought Context:
“Spike Lee gonna cry like a baby. Spike Lee gonna do a documentary—guaranteed if they win the championship.” – Joe (10:13)
[12:02 – 14:19]
“Hey, look here. I might have a time, but I can’t go to jail. I ain’t gonna lie.” – Joe (13:28)
[17:09 – 18:54]
“Do y’all understand the mythical that… Like you said, Ocho, they haven’t won a championship in 50-plus years… Can you imagine Jalen Brunson winning a championship? Oh my.” – Joe (17:09)
[21:05 – 33:41]
The Exposé:
“In my opinion, that’s not fair to the centers of the past… So, to me it’s unfair that guys today should get to make it because the rules have changed. So I vote by position in order to protect…the history of the sport.” – Justin Termize (22:18)
Hosts Rip the Logic:
Broader Issues With Voting:
Key Quotes:
Context:
Wembanyama earns 499 of 500 votes, falling short of unanimous because of this ballot.
[35:04 – 44:40]
“He’s literally a rocket scientist and used AI and coded models to help the Pelicans. What, are they trying to put somebody in space?” – Joe (35:17) “What does that have to do with winning and playing basketball?” – Ocho (36:27) “Normally when they make changes like this… there’s going to be some furniture moving.” – Uncle Joe (41:04)
“Just let that sink in for a second, chat.” – Joe (44:51)
“It's more assistant coaches and damn analytics people… than ever in the history of the game. It's more coaches than players now.” – Uncle Joe (43:45)
[46:24 – 48:06]
James Harden’s Comment:
“So the analytics said you were better, but you still got swept and bad? So analytics is messing up basketball, damn near.” – Ocho (46:24)
Final Takedown:
“I’d like to think we’re better, but at the end of the day, you are what your record says. Our record says 0-4 in the Eastern Conference Finals.” – Joe (48:34)
[50:13 – 51:18]
“Mike Brown, he gonna be stamped in New York too, huh?” – Joe (50:36)
The conversation is rowdy, conversational, and laced with sports nostalgia and playful roast sessions. It moves rapidly, blending serious NBA insights with irreverence and jokes—especially as they react to the strangeness of the Lakers hiring a rocket scientist and debate the logic of NBA awards voting.
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Timestamps are provided for all the major topics as detailed above.