Nightcap Hour 2: Celtics Make ASKING PRICE for Jaylen Brown, Mavs TARGETING Kawhi + Bills ERASE OJ Simpson HISTORY

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 2: Celtics’ Asking Price for Jaylen Brown, Mavs Target Kawhi, and the Bills Erase O.J. Simpson – Episode Summary

Date: June 29, 2026
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Special Guest(s): Joe Johnson (sports analyst, referred to as “Joe” and “Uncle Joe”)
Running Theme: Unfiltered, rapid-fire reactions and commentary on the latest developments in the NBA, NFL, and WNBA.

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Episode Overview

This night’s “Hour 2” segment is packed with instant reactions and deep-dive banter on major sports headlines:

• The Boston Celtics’ hefty trade demands for Jaylen Brown and speculation on his future.
• Dallas Mavericks’ pursuit of Kawhi Leonard and broader NBA roster shakeups.
• Miami Heat’s stance on Giannis Antetokounmpo’s brothers and superstar athlete accommodations.
• The Buffalo Bills’ decision to scrub O.J. Simpson from their new stadium, sparking a raw discussion on legacy and public image.
• WNBA standouts and discussion of league culture.

Casual and candid, the conversation blends insider knowledge, humor, and personal anecdotes, true to the Nightcap vibe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celtics’ Asking Price for Jaylen Brown & His Future

(02:31–07:57)

• The Celtics are requesting “up to four first-round picks” for Jaylen Brown; Portland seen as front-runners, leveraging assets from previous trades.
• Jaylen Brown’s house is up for sale in Boston, fueling rumors he’s on the way out.
• Historical context: Comparable trade returns for Desmond Bane and Mikal Bridges suggest Brown is valued even higher.
• Quote:

  “Boston has prioritized... Jason Tatum more than Jaylen Brown. Boston has been trying to break these two up for years.”
  (Joe, 05:13)

• The hosts explore what led to this split—personality differences and Brown’s outspokenness versus Tatum’s stoicism.
• Quote:

  “If the roles were reversed... is [Jaylen Brown] gonna handle it like Jason Tatum? Hell, no.”
  (Joe, 06:22)

2. Team Dynamics, Leadership, and Player Trades

(07:58–10:54)

• Discussion on how leaks in NBA news are often intentional.
• Trade talks involving Luka Doncic; parallels are drawn with situations where news only leaks if teams allow it.
• Personal anecdotes about agents, team management—especially Nico Harrison in Dallas.
• Side banter on the realities of NBA life and priorities: “Go where you’re appreciated, not tolerated.” (Joe, 05:04)

3. Miami Heat: Giannis Antetokounmpo Without His Brothers?

(15:55–18:28)

• Miami Heat’s organizational stance: No plan to sign Giannis’s brothers—focus is on winning, not superstar perks.
• Hosts critique the trend of franchises bending rules to appease stars.
• Quote:

  “They come to the game, they sit their ass in the stands like everybody else... There will be no special treatment.”
  (Joe, 17:44)

• Ochocinco is blunt: “Can they contribute to us winning in any way? Absolutely not...” (Ocho, 18:01)

4. Locker Room Culture & Superstar Accountability

(21:30–29:40)

• Conversation weaves through Heat-Celtics-Mavs, but focuses on NBA culture, leadership, and double standards.
• Story time: Miles Turner’s comments about waiting for Giannis being late to meetings/planes—violates team culture.
• Insight: Star players get more leeway, but their habits set the tone.
• Quote:

  “If Giannis is showing up two hours late for a meeting... Who do you follow? You the leader. You follow the leader.”
  (Joe, 24:10)

• Discussion of punctuality, upbringing, assets vs. liabilities at work/in life.

5. Mavs Eyeing Kawhi Leonard – NBA Trade Rumors

(31:27–34:57)

• The Dallas Mavericks and Clippers are working on a trade to send Kawhi Leonard to Dallas, possibly for Klay Thompson, PJ Washington, and picks. Kawhi would reunite with President Masai Ujiri.
• Excitement about pairing Kawhi with Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flagg, and Derrick Lively.
• Quote:

  “I think Kawhi still has a lot of great basketball... you pair him with some guys who really know how to play like Kyrie... now the Mavs might be back in action.”
  (Joe, 32:10)

• Minor skepticism about team chemistry, especially with new coaching dynamics and Kyrie’s personality.
• Quote:

  “Kawhi has improved his three ball. Oh, he the king of the midi.”
  (Joe, 34:00)

6. WNBA Highlights and Historic Performances

(34:57–41:15)

• Asia Wilson of the Las Vegas Aces makes WNBA history: 30 pts, 15 rebs, 4 steals, 3 blocks—never before achieved in a single game.
• Recognition of supporting stars: Jackie Young, Chelsea Gray, Kennedy Carter.
• Quote:

  “I think Asia Wilson is a Mount Rushmore player... When it’s all said and done, she gonna be the first head on that, on that monument.”
  (Joe, 38:24)

• Quick recap of other WNBA results, rookies (Olivia Miles “she nice with it”), and the growing women’s game.

7. Bills’ Erase O.J. Simpson from Wall of Fame

(46:43–56:34)

• The Buffalo Bills are omitting O.J. Simpson from the Wall of Fame in their new stadium.
• Ochocinco and Joe tackle the question of legacy, public image, and separating on-field accomplishments from off-field controversies.
• Quote:

  “They can’t erase football legacy now... what he accomplished when he played, it’s cemented.”
  (Ocho, 47:16)

• Insightful legal/cultural discussion: “It doesn’t matter what you think. It only matters what you can prove.” (Joe, 49:25)
• Host nostalgia: O.J.'s #32 was iconic, and his trailblazing status in media/endorsements is acknowledged.
• Social/racial commentary on how public perception shifts for Black athletes, especially in legacy debates.
• References to pop culture—Jay-Z’s “I’m not black, I’m O.J.” and Kanye lyric callbacks.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Boston breaking up Tatum and Brown:

  “Boston has been trying to break these two up for years... prioritized Tatum more.”
  (Joe, 05:13)

• On asking price for Jaylen Brown:

  “…they’re asking for up to four first-round picks. Portland got the assets.”
  (Joe, 02:31–04:15)

• On player trades and loyalty:

  “Go where I’m appreciated, not tolerated.”
  (Joe, 05:04)

• On NBA information leaks:

  “Everything that gets out, they put it out purposely... Anything they don’t want out, it ain’t getting out.”
  (Ocho, 09:33)

• On superstars getting leeway:

  “If Giannis is showing up late... you the leader. That’s why you want your leaders to be of purpose, of substance.”
  (Joe, 24:10)

• On assets vs. liabilities:

  “You’re an asset or your liability. People get off liabilities, man.”
  (Joe, 29:43–29:52)

• On Asia Wilson’s legacy:

  “She gonna be the first head on that... monument.”
  (Joe, 38:24)

• On O.J. Simpson’s erasure:

  “They can not put him up there. But what he accomplished when he played, obviously it's cemented.”
  (Ocho, 47:16)
  “It doesn’t matter what you think. It only matters what you can prove.”
  (Joe, 49:25)

• On reminders of race and fame:

  “Sometimes you have to get reminded who you are.”
  (Joe, 55:51)
  “No matter how... still end on a coop. Right.”
  (Ocho/Kanye reference, 56:06)

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Main Segments & Timestamps

• Celtics & Jaylen Brown Trade Rumors: 02:31–07:57
• NBA Team Culture & Star Treatment: 15:55–29:40
• Mavs Pursue Kawhi / NBA Offseason Moves: 31:27–34:57
• WNBA Standouts & League Discussion: 34:57–41:15
• Bills Omit O.J. Simpson / Legacy Debate: 46:43–56:34

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Memorable Moments

• Locker Room Leadership:
  Hosts riff on why it matters who sets the tone, both in pro sports and everyday life—punctuality and accountability come up repeatedly.

• Asia Wilson’s Dominance:
  “She gonna keep building... between five and eight MVPs.” (Sports legacy call)

• O.J. Simpson Debate:
  Deep, candid conversation on legal guilt, civil cases, public perception, and what teams "owe" to their history.

• Legacy & Hall of Fame:
  Sharpe’s nostalgia about seeing his own name enshrined years after being a wide-eyed fan:
  “Never in a million years, Ocho Joe... Hall of Fame ain’t crossing my mind.” (57:11)

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, honest – a genuine “barbershop” feel.
• Anchored in personal experience and wide sports knowledge.
• Frequent humor and gentle ribbing between Ocho, Joe, and Unc.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a robust survey of the state of the NBA (front office drama, player movement), the WNBA’s ongoing evolution, and the complex dynamics between athletic greatness and the messiness of real life—anchored by old-school storytelling and fast-breaking sports news, directly from athletes who’ve lived it all.

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In summary:
Celtics set a high price for Jaylen Brown, Mavs position themselves as offseason players, and the Heat assert a tough culture. Meanwhile, Asia Wilson continues to make history, and the Bills set off a cultural debate by erasing O.J. Simpson from their new home. Sharpe, Ocho, and Joe keep it fast, funny, and unfiltered—offering a blend of insider perspective, poignant commentary, and sports banter to end your night right.

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Transcript

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[News Skeptic]

I turned off news altogether.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I hate to say it, but I

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don't trust much of anything.

[Commentator/Host]

It's the rage bait.

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It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News Reporting for America, the Celtics

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

are asking for four first round draft Jaylen Brown and the Trailblazers are seen as front runners to win the sweet stake per Sam Amick. The Celtics, per league sources have been asking for up to four picks. Portland seen as front runners there. Now think about it. Mikhail Bridges, what did he go for? What's the guy from Memphis went to Orlando. What did he go. Desmond Bane, what did he go for? I think we all in agreeance. Jaylen Brown is a better player than Desmond Bane. And Mikhail Bridges. Yeah, both guys are. All three guys are two way players. Desmond Bane plays defense. When he was in Memphis and they had him and Brooks and Triple J, they were outstanding on the defensive end. We know Mikhail Bridges a defensive guy. That's why they got him in New York. Jalen Brown is the better of those three players. Those players, if I'm not mistaken, went for up to three, excuse me, four first round picks.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Man, listen. And then y' all want to know, oh man, why jb? Why Jaylen Brown got his. He sold his penthouse in Boston for 12 or 14 million. Why is it up for sale? Hell, why you think it's up for sale? Yeah, every time he turned around, that man name and conversation, bro. The Celtics, they getting rid of him this off season. Okay, Ocho, for sure.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, that's a fact now. I mean, it's just too much going on, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I did. I'm just curious where you're going, Uncle Joe. Who has assets to get him? Based on what?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

The Celsius has a few teams.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Brown.

[Commentator/Host]

Who?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Who?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Well, it seems like Portland got the assets. That would have looked like to me because guess what? They got assets from when they gave. They got traded, Dane.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, and Boston ain't gonna want to keep him. They ain't gonna want him to stay in the East. They gonna try to get his ass out the Eastern Conference. If you're gonna trade him.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I don't think you want to go to Portland though.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Anybody where the hell you want to go? They got banks in Portland too, though. You know that, don't you?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Sure do.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

They got banks in Portland.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, Joe, y' all get played on the first of the field teeth, right?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Okay, that's all I need to know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Look, everybody talking about, man, damn, you leaving Miami, you going to Utah? Yeah, last time I checked, Utah got banks too. Shit. Hey, I would like to stay in Miami, you know, with D. Wade and Pat Riley. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, if Pat giving D. Wade here, ain't no need me talking to him. I'm gonna go on down here To Utah. Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, hey. I'm gonna go where I'm appreciated, not tolerated.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. I'm gone. I'm gone. Yeah.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But. But that's the thing. They gonna pin it on us is y' all been trying to break these two up for years. No, Boston has been trying to break these two up for years. Boston has always. And I hate using term always. And never and ever. Boston has prioritized. Look favorable. Excuse me. More favorable. Believed more in Jason Tatum than Jaylen Brown. Yeah, we can surmount all that other stuff and yada, yada, woo, woo, woo. And I remember I was having a conversation. Joe. With somebody two days ago. I said, let me ask you this. And Joe, I want. And I say you. And every. For the last, like, a week, it's been asleep in my mind, I said, I want to ask Joe this. If the roles were reversed. JB is on the Olympic team. Jason Tatum is it. With the credentials that JB has, and he's getting DMPs. He's playing three minutes, four minutes in the Olympics. Is he gonna handle it like Jason Tatum?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hell, no. Hell, no.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Two. Two completely different people. And the way they react and respond to things. Completely different.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

And this is probably why. This is probably the reason why JB is in the situation he's in, because he's so outspoken.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yep.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You know what I mean? But, no, no, no. I can't see him. Hey, hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

What?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Y' all done brought me all the way down here? You mean, tell me I can't get no minutes?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Cause, you know, there was some DMPs for potato.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I mean, look, though. But you gotta. You gotta understand, Uncle Ocho here, he playing behind Katie and Braun. They ain't like he playing behind. You know what I mean?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, but that. That's that. And me. And me. And the guy was having a conversation. I said, well, what. You know, he's asking me. I said, what you think? He said? No, I don't think he'd been. I don't think he would have handled it like Jason Tatum did. Nah, we'll never know. I know he's upset about that, and rightfully so, because he's looking at guys that I'm better than. And you take. First of all, you take two guys, you took. First of all, you took three guys from my team. If you take Jason Tatum, you know what?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But I'm the finals mvp. But anyway. But you took two other guys. Yeah, two.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, they fit. They fit the system. They fit the system. We trying to run.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Cause, look, look, look.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Look, just so happening. If they don't get no minutes, hell, they ain't gonna be complaining.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They ain't gonna say nothing.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

They ain't gonna be complaining.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No shot. They ain't looking to do nothing. Devin Booker put it out there early. Devin Booker say I do whatever y' all need me to do. Book say I just want to be on the Olympic team. There's a good chance it'll be LeBron, it'll be Steph, maybe even KD's last Olympics. Last time. That big three, that generation plays together before we transition.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Booker said whatever y' all need me

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

to do, but he played it. Hey, Devin Booker played his role to the Tito, okay?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Absolutely. Look at Ant Man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays. Ant man plays some minutes, but it probably wasn't as many minutes as he would have liked.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Like.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, hey, because remember the first time they said, cursing, Ant man said, I need you to. I'd say I need you to be what you call him. I forgot who he said.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

He said, D. Wade. I think he said. Cause D. Wade came off the bench or something.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, he said. But you make it seem like you got Jordans out there. Yeah, D. Wade was glad you tried to get me to come behind. Ah, nah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Right? Hey, D. Wade were playing behind Kobe at the time. That. What, he was there? Yeah, yeah, he got Kobe out there.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Exactly. He's like, yes. That's what he said, Joe. He said, well, damn, what a Kobe I look at, right? I don't see no damn Kobe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And for this to keep getting out. You see Ocho, they get mad at us. We talk about old. Who put this? How you know? How would anybody even know, right? Guess what didn't get out? That Luca trade. Why two people knew they wanted out. Exactly. Hey, exactly. They think they slick correct the mundo.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Everything that gets out, they put it out purposely. Anything they don't want out, it ain't getting out.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It's even said that they damn. They damn Asians didn't even damn know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They did not say. It's being reported that Nico and. And what you call it? Met for a cup of coffee.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Look innocent.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

First of all, you'd have never thought Luka Doncic would be brought up in a trade. So it. Hell, yeah, it looked innocent. There never been no whispers or anything.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I gotta hit my guy. Nico. I gotta check on Nico, see what he own.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Everybody know.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

You know Nico.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah, that's the owner. But somebody got to take the fall, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

That's how it works.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, Ocho, that was my. That was my Nike rep when I was in the league, bro. Whenever I needed something, I hit Nico. Nico come to the. A hangout, you know, that was my guy, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Okay, okay, okay. When I came to the. Hey, you ain't hang out with me, man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You talking about. Oh, you always talking about old stuff.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Come on, Joe, that was two weeks.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It's. Oh, Ocho. It's old.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Move on. But okay. But you know who will show up before you wear that and. Right, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, I appreciate that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, I like an old shoe.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Comfortable and reliable.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir. I appreciate that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I appreciate that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, you know me. We know we had a good old. You know, we, you know, had a good old time, man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, Joe, we ain't gonna put that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Joe, I ain't. I a put. I ain't gonna put your business out there how you did me.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I ain't. Listen, listen, listen.

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[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

All hey, hey, hey. The same way he did you. That's how he did me.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I already know. I already know. Y' all gonna try to do me how they did Kyrie. I know that's how y' all gonna do me. It's okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, Joe, we talked about it on the show.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It's okay. I'll see y' all in a few weeks. I see y' all in a few weeks.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I see y' all in a few weeks.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, hey, Ocho. Joe, are you sure you gonna show up for that?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I got my ducks in order for that now.

[Commentator/Host]

Okay.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, what duck? What ducks you need to come?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Don't worry about at home for 24 hours. Don't worry about it. Home, boy. Don't worry about it, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, I'm starting to think you ain't. You don't wear the pants over there, boy.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Whoa, whoa.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I'm starting to think.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I'm starting to think he don't wear

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

the pants over there. Joseph Johnson from Arkansas South. That's one thing about them boys from the South. Them boys from the south, they wear pants.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, he don't wear them in that house. If he did, he would have showed up for us.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You saying I don't run my house? I'm running around my house?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, that's what they say. That's what he said. Running around it, corner to corner.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

That what he trying to say.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, Joe, everybody. Everybody showed up to Houston except you, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Ocho, Ocho, I had some things to take Care of.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I know what that means. Hey, Unc, I know what that means. She told his dad no.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Nah, man. We don't even get down like that over here.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, I know she would.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You don't get down like that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Real talk.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, we've been talking about this for. For two months on the show, and then it come down to show up. You don't even show up.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

All I know is that we don't put the thing in. We say the three. All three of the. The big three showing up for nightcap. And it's gonna be very disappointing if two of the three show up.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn. Damn.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But we have your name tag in your chair. Joseph Johnson.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna see y' all in a couple. In a few weeks. Hey, man, y' all gotta stop acting like that. For real. Okay, Ocho. For real. Ocho, you gotta chill. You gotta chill, for real. You gotta chill.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

What you mean, Joe? You stood me up in Atlanta. You stood us up in Houston. Like. I mean, what you want me to do?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

What? Why you stood.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, Joe. That's two times, Joe. You got one more and I'm on your ass.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You hear me, boy? I'm on your ass already. You don't even know it.

[Commentator/Host]

You.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You hear me?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

All right. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

All right. Okay.

[NBC News Anchor]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Don't get me started now. I'm trying to be cool. My birthday at 12 o' clock in less than an hour. Man, don't y' all starve me tonight. For real. For real. Cause.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. When your birthday, Joe?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

The 29th, Ocho. Which is Monday. Which is tomorrow.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, what you doing tomorrow? You want me to come out to Atlanta?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Nah, I got. Me and my fam. Me and my family, we doing a little something something. Is this something?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Oh, oh, so I can't come hang out with the family?

[IBM AI Representative]

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[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Not right now, Ojo. Not right now.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, hey, hey, Unc, I think he in the doghouse.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Nah, one woman dog house.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I don't know, because he told. He said I can't come back.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The old lady, she might be upstairs listening. Let's not call him.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No, no. Hey, hey. First off. First off, y' all gotta chill. Y' all really gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill. I don't do. I don't sit nothing, do nothing but. But sit here and hang out with y'. All. I ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I gotta. Look here, Joe, you. Hey, we close. We. We 10 minutes apart from each other. If you ever Need a place to stay. You good? Hey, ain't nobody that. You take my bedroom. You take my bedroom.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, Joe, if you're in Miami, boy, you know, I got about six. I got six bedrooms over here. Boy, you always got, you know, a place to stay.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, we. We Gucci over here. I appreciate the justice. I appreciate the justice, though. Don't, don't, don't. Don't get me wrong, but we Gucci over here. You feel me?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sound good.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, We Gucci.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, sound good. I mean, if you was Gucci, you would have been. You would have showed up to Houston. It was only 24 hours.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, enough was enough. Enough is enough, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Okay. I'm just making sure. We weren't even. I mean, I. Shoot, I.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, we can't hear you, huh? That's how we know that's some BS you talking about.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Who that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Huh?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It wasn't meant for nobody here leave alone.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You got me now?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I got. What happened was.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Here we go.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

If you go there, this here is off.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

What?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He had to choose Nightcap, Ocho and Unc or. And he made the wise decision.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Okay, I got you. I got you. You're right. You're right, you're right. Hey, you know, I. I mean, he in the house. He in the house, but he don't run nothing. I got what you said.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I'm running. I'm running the house. I'm running around the house.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir. Matter of fact, you. You at the door.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

According to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the Heat are not planning to have any of Giannis's brother join him in Miami. There won't be any Antetokounmpo brothers in Miami. That whole. We have Costas, we have finances on the team. I don't think there's going to continue. From what I understand, Alex at the Takumpo was reportedly lined up for a deal with Greek. Whatever this team is in 2020. While finances is looking for a job, the Heat have no space for. For waste as a team has serious salary cap issues. After adding Giannis and Bobby Porter's Joe Rise like, look here. Therapy and hey. And that's. Think about it now. Milwaukee went above and beyond to have brothers on a team, and they're not contributing. They not. They don't add any value to your team, only to appease the brother. And they did that. So we know Milwaukee went above and beyond what was required and what was necessary in. In order to make sure Giannis was happy. I'm not surprised by this, Joe. Are you surprised? That pass says we want you, not all of you?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hell, no, I ain't surprised, Uncle. Oo, listen, growth and maturity, you know, it's going to be very uncomfortable. So if you've never played without your brothers being there, damn it, so be it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

We need you to get aboard. We trying to win a title. We ain't about pleasing you. And I mean, y' all know this.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He played, like, nine, ten years without his damn brothers, and he was just fine.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Or at least seven or eight. I don't know, maybe they was on the team. Maybe. Maybe one of us on the team when we won a championship in 21. Yeah, but he played seven, eight years without his brothers, and he was just fine.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Listen, now, if you got them living with you, that's one thing. They come to the game, they sit their ass in the stands like everybody else.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It'll be no special treatment. Now, we ain't doing that around here. Nah,

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Ocho, you surprised you don't play that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Now, anything that's coming over here, brother, cousin, uncle, or not, can they contribute to helping us better? Can they contribute to us winning in any way? Absolutely not. I'm not being disrespectful to his brothers at all, but obviously, what we're trying to build is we trying to get up, we trying to get ourselves back in east and being contenders. Bringing your brother here is one thing. Bringing Giannis here is one thing, and we ain't bringing. We can't. We can't bring. We can't bring the rest of the baggage.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Now, if.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Can they help us? Can they help us win?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

That's it. That's all it come down to, huh?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, man, I know that he got some. They still got some moves they gonna make, but I like the additions. I like, obviously, Greek freak. I like Bobby Portis.

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[News Skeptic]

I turned off news altogether.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I hate to say it, but I

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don't trust much of anything.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

It's the rage bait.

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It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[IBM AI Representative]

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[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I like bam. I mean, guys that work hard, that's gonna lead the right way and that's gonna up upheld that culture that's over there in Miami. Hunkin Ocho. That's the biggest thing, bro. Be a hard worker. Hell, that's 90% of the damn of the deal right there. If you can give, you can get through that. You know what I mean? You're gonna have to put some work in over there, boy.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, and I don't think that's gonna be an issue for Giannis. But the thing is that when you go to another team, you gotta realize that other team that you came from, they accuous to all your demands.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yep.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

What made it so. You remember Miles Turner put it out there. Bobby tried to smooth it over, but it was no smoothing it over.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

We waiting an hour. We waiting two hours for Yannis. Meeting started with you.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Everybody.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Everybody was shocked.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They even took it down. But you can't make me unhear. You can't make me unsee what I've already seen and heard. Damage was done you. After that, there was no way in hell Giannis was going back. No, sir, he wasn't. First of all, he wasn't going back before, but if you had any doubts. And the mere fact of that's who it is. You know, Miles Turner wouldn't lie on that man like that. There's no way, Ocho.

[News Skeptic]

No.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No way, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Because you don't even take him for that type of guy, like his character.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

And that stuff shouldn't be said anyway. The fact that we know that, the fact that it's even being accepted, you know, in general, it. How's he gonna go back in that locker room? What?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He was never gonna go back.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Well, you can't.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I mean, you said what you said what you said, Ocho. You can't unsay it. You know what I mean? We heard it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, you're absolutely right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It's a rap, but you're right. You know, it's certain things that goes unsaid about the locker room, bro. And the things that go on and probably trying to diminish guys character and things of that, sort of like, especially when y' all still teammates, you don't do. You don't do. No. You don't do. No. Like that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No. And the thing. Had he not said that, if. If they'd have just left it before because they were just going along having a conversation. Well, you know, somebody, you know, because Stewie said, we get fined for this, got gap for that. You know, late for meetings and so forth and so on. If they just say, yeah, we got guys that come late and they miss meetings and they late for the plane. He put a name to it. Yeah, he put a name to it. And the problem that you have. Here's my problem. Is that Giannis is that player. See, the thing is, what normally happens, guys that you have the most responsibility, they take it the most serious.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

So in other words, you don't do that because all. So if Giannis is showing up two hours, a lady for meeting, if he. For a plane ride or hour, however lady showed up, or if he's blowing off, if he's doing. What do you. If he's doing that, who do you follow? You the leader? You say I follow the leader. That's why you want your leaders to be of. Of purpose, of substance.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And then he wonder why they not winning.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, you're right. Them guys gonna follow what the leader doing, bro.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They are. They are, Joe. But I was. I was shocked because I was listening to it, because I was like, you know, normally when we talk. Because we all talk. Yeah, for the most part, Ocho, we leave out names. No, I believe out the names. We don't need to cut. Hey, some of them, you know, married and some got kids and I got grandkids and so forth and so on, and they weren't a part of that at the time. So they don't need to know that side of their dad or their grandfather.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Absolutely right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Or their. Or their mom or their grandma. So we will leave that out. But to put a name to that, that man say, the man, I think he said I would check. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was an hour, two hours later playing, waiting.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, that ain't normal neither, boy.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No, hell no. That ain't no happening to football. I don't give a damn who it is. Hell no. John Elway paid. They not waiting that plane. I see you there

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

in basketball. Now, they'll give you star players some grace time. Now, when I say grace time, I'm talking 20 minutes, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't talking about no damn hour, 45 minutes, two hours.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Damn, man. But you know what? But I think, Joe, to think the way we operate, I couldn't even get good conscience do that. Yeah, I couldn't, Ocho. I couldn't, man. I couldn't wait to get to work. Yeah, to be late, man. I couldn't wait to be. To work. I couldn't wait to get to the plane. Cause all that hard work, all the training that I did in the off season, all that hard work I do in the course of the week, I'm about to put that on display and put that on somebody's ass.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I can know I didn't be late for that. Yeah, that's. That's me. That's me. But I. But, Chad, I think y' all know me enough over these three years of seeing me. Y' all know how I am about punctuality.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah,

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

man, that's all I asked. Hey, what type of person you. You punctual? You. But I was like, boy, I was shocked, though, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I was, too.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I would have never. I would have never thought it would. But first, with hair. This is the Thing you know, it had to be somebody that's high ranking, because if it's not, they to cut his ass.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah. Or laughing.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Oh. Yo, you know how this thing work.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Absolutely low tier guys. Hey, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy the last game of the season. Dude fumbled twice, cut him, guy fell asleep, Jimmy cut him. The reporter asked him, say, jimmy, if that was Troy, and he fell asleep in the meeting, he said, I'd have woke him up. All the time. He said, I'm gonna treat y' all all fair. I ain't gonna treat y' all all the same.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Now, fact, I didn't seen it happen, man. I seen guys being late and get left the bus leave them, the plane leave them. Yeah. I done seen guys get cut behind it. I haven't seen it all, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, that's funny. Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But I just. I think it has a lot to do with upbringing Barney and Mary Porter.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

And how bad you want it, too.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Well, how bad you want an ass cutting?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Well, I ain't want it. Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No, you want.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Well, look here. When Barney Porter say, we. Hey, we going to church. When Barney party. Hey, when that. When that car crank up.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Everybody better be in there, or we ride on the back of the truck and your Sunday clothes going to church. Yeah, Barney and Mary, they play that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, you go to that old joint, you get there on time. Yeah, you'll be in the Lord's house on time. Yeah, they ain't play that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

And.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And, boy, Lord have mercy. I don't really have a whole lot of rules to govern by. Hey, somebody come, they want a job to say, hey, hey, Ash, you know what? Hey, you know the number what the number one thing is, other than working

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

hard,

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

being on time.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, not only that, though, not only being on time, Uncle Ocho, but just being a hell of an asset, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, even with my yoga thing, my yoga studio, the people that we hire, bro, I just want you to not only enjoy what you do, but I want you to be a hell of an asset. You know what I mean? Like, damn. Really, really, really appreciate what it is that you get a chance to do. Whether it's teaching people, whatever the case may be, whether it's, hell me on nightcap, man, I just try to be a hell of an asset, bro.

[Commentator/Host]

You.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

One or two things, Joe. Oh, Joe, you wanted two things. What are you?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Asset.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You're an asset or your liability?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Liability.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, what are you.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, that's a good one.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And people get off liabilities, man. What queen. They like to acquire. They like to acquire and accumulate assets.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah,

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

the more good people and more good workers you have, the better, more productive your business will be, man. Bruh, that's it. That's my mistake. And the therapist told me many years ago, said Shannon, the biggest thing is that you think people think like you and you think everybody is. He's like, you don't think anybody out there would. You might not do that to somebody.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But there are lots of people out there that will. And what happens when you come across the ones that will do the exact same? Do the exact. What you wouldn't do, they'll do it to you. I just can't. I just can't come up people job or late seven years. I was late one time. Power went out and what you call them in la, man, my heart was jumping through my chest. I called him, said, man, look, I'm. I'm so sorry the power went out. I said, I'll be there in 15 minutes. I could have made it to 10, but I got to take a shower. I can't leave my house without taking a shower. I don't give a damn. I can't be bound without taking a shower. I got to wash my ass. That was the only time in seven years. That's on me.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

That's on.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

That's on. That's on me. But I can't, I can't. I can't do that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I'm with you. 1.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The Mavericks and Clippers have discussed a trade center around Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard. New Mavericks president Messiah Jury has interested in making a deal that would send Kawhi Leonard to Dallas for a package that would include include P.J. washington, Klay Thompson and draft picks. Kawhi Usuri won a championship together in Toronto in 2019. Joe, do you like that pairing Kawhi with Cooper Flag? Lively?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Kyrie.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Kyrie, yes.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hell yeah, I like it. Yeah, I like it. Ocho. Ocho, I like it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

That one I can get with. I like that too now.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. I think Kawhi still has a lot of great basketball left in him to

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

where he could play hot this year in points. Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I think he, you know, he's showing improve that. So you pair him with some guys who really know how to play like Kyrie. Obviously we know the emergence of Cooper Flag, he's going to continue to get better and better with Derrick Lively and the crew. Man, listen then now the Mavs might be back in action. You know, I think Kawhi will be, you know, he'll be motivated to be a better player. You know what I mean? The environment around him will probably be a little better for him. So. I don't know, man. I think the landscape of basketball is shaping up, bro. Like, it's shaping up to be a little different. Uncle Ocho to come start the next season now.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Who coaching the Mavs?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

The guy from Michigan.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

The coach. He just got.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, yeah, they just got the guy from Michigan. You're right, you're right. You're back, back, back. We're talking about. Yeah, because they let JK go. Okay.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because I was like, time to see. I'm like, damn. I'm trying to see.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

And that's. Hey, but you know, that's kind of. That's a little shaky, you know, we know how Kyrie is now, you know, so, you know, we have. We have to see what. What really happens.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah, you better know what he talking about.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah,

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

damn. Besides, let me treat. Let me try to get this band back together.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, he already know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You put him with a dusty mate. That's his name.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You put Kawhi with a hell of a PG like Kyrie. And you got Cooper flag over there with them athletic bigs, they gonna be able. They gonna be able to defend at a high level. Hey, now you got another guy. Late game situations. He can come through.

[NBC News Anchor]

Sh.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You got two. Cuz you damn sure can put the

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

ball in Kai hand.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And Kai could either get a shot or get. Or get somebody else a shot.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, that's why I say you got another guy. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And. And you know Kawhi. Kawhi has improved his three ball. Oh, he the king of the mini.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Kai take one step inside the three point line and let it go. Hey, face up. Get to a. He can get to his spot. Elevate.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Let it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He shoot 80 high 80 for the free throw line.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

That's a hell of a team, man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Damn.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, and. And ain't no state tax in Texas. Kawhi, a little bit bang for your buck.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey,

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

yeah. Hey, hey. From the sound, from the sounds of it, Kawhi didn't got a more than the bang for his buck. He doing deals under the table and all kind of mess.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

There you go, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

There you go. Okay, okay, okay. We ain't gonna go. We ain't gonna.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

That's a legend, Joe. That's a legend.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I ain't mad at him. At what I'm trying to say. Hell, I wouldn't. Me and Bob, we had to do something under the table too. Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Asia Wilson had a monster game today. Asia had 30 points, 15 rebounds, four steals, three blocks. She became the first player in WNBA history to reach those marks in a single game as the aces beat Chicago 107 to 99. Wilson shot 8 of 14 from the floor, 13 to 16 from the foul line. It was her 99th game with 20 points and at least 10 rebounds. Only Tina Charles with 109 has more. Jackie Young added 28 points, eight assists for the Aces. She was 9 of 14 from the field and made three. Excuse me. Made four three pointers. Chelsea Gray had 18 points, six rebounds, eight assists. And Kennedy Carter back, had 11 points. Off the bench, 16 minutes, three or six from the floor, one of two from the three point line, four or five from the free throw line, a rebound and assist. Kennedy a Carter, she. Hey, she phenomenal, man. Yeah, off the bench. Win 6 Woman of the year, I guess they call it. I'm gonna call it six woman. Yeah, they like that. You know, we got to be. We try to be politically. We try to be politically and socially correct.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

So the sixth woman of the year. And she'd be. It'd be well, well deserved.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I know she. She nice. I watched a little bit of this game. I caught it when Jackie Young, she called hot. She. She kind of ran out about three threes in a row. And they. They was rolling ever since with a double figure lead. Look, we know the. We know the Aces gonna be there, bro. When it come down to it, when the rubber meets the road, they gonna be there. They've been through the most.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You look at. When Asia play like this and you get in Chelsea and they're official like this, they're gonna be hard to beat.

[NBC News Anchor]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, they're gonna be hard to beat because first of all, Asia gonna get. Asia's gonna be Asia. She's the front runner for the MVP Again.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Again.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Again.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

That don't surprise you though?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

No. And probably when it's all said and done, she's gonna have all the records. You'll have the most points, you're gonna have the most double doubles, most blocks. She's gonna be red hound the rebounding title. She gonna probably have somewhere between five and eight MVPs, somewhere between four and six defensive player of the years. It's just.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

It's gonna come down. It's gonna come down to. To Help around Asia, Meaning Jackie Young and Chelsea Gray, they gonna have to be consistent, Uncle Ocho, for them to, you know, really make some noise. You know what I mean? Cause when they play at high level. When Chelsea Gray and Jackie Young play at a high level, bro, they hard to beat.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Extremely. Extremely. They got two guards that can put it on the floor.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And can get to the rim. And both of them, y' all know the point. God, yeah. Chelsea Gray.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, you're nice with it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

She got it. She got it. She got it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

My dog. My dog be hooping. She got it in Asia. And when we. When we talk about Asia, this is not to diminish anything. These great women from your Lisa Leslie, from your Lauren Jackson, your Swoops Cooper, dt, Maya Moore. For me right now, I think Asia Wilson is a Mount Rushmore player. Oh, yeah, the NBA.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

When it's all said and done, she gonna be the first head on that, on that, on that, on that monument.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, she's that good. Because she gonna keep building. She gonna keep building.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

She's that good. And I think where they got Chelsea, they got Chelsea under contract for three years. I think Jackie's under contract. Just keep the pieces they got. Jewel Lloyd was it all. Was an all star, all WNBA player. And she comes off the bench. Yeah, she can hoop too, now.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, she can go.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

She. She can hoop too. And Kennedy Carter, like I said, man, she's. She's a firecracker. I love, I love. I love the way she plays.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yep, great, great, great, great punch off the bench to come in and give you that. Give you that oomph when you ain't really got it at times.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Every time, bro.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

So The Aces are 14 and 5, 92. Wade Sky, 6 and 13. But the Aces win 107 and 99. Natasha Howard had 21 points and 14 rebounds. Olivia Miles had 21 points, 8 assists. And Cheryl Reeve tied the WNBA record for coaching wins as the Minnesota Links beat the Dallas Wings 85 77. Reeves, who already owns a WNBA record for playoff wins, tied Mike the ball for the most regular season wins in league history at 379. She can break the record for the Minnesota when Minnesota takes on the Liberty in New York on Friday. And Livia Miles, boy, she like that, Joe. Man, oh, man, she just. She just. Oh, my goodness.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

They really. They really got probably the best roster, one of the best rosters in wnba considering the fact that they top player ain't even playing. Imagine what it's going to look like when she comes back when he get back. Cuz she can go.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bolivia. Miles.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

She is, bro.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

All rookies. Y' all could just stop.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yep.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You're not winning that award.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You're gonna win it unanimously.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No, sir.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, she nice with it. And is it them goggles she went got? She wear goggles, right?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, she probably. She probably gonna get a little. Yeah, I mean, little deal with Oakley or something, you know, should.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, they went on the road. Caleb McBride has 17. Natasha out at 21. Courtney Williams had 12. Miles had 20. Jessica Shepard had 16 rebounds. Only eight points. Paige had 25. Az Fudd had 21.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hold up, though. Paige and Fudge, they figuring it out together over there, ain't they, man?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Reek didn't have a good day today. 109 from the floor. One of three from one of three from three. So you know like when them three guards play well, but Shepherd, Shepherd. You got to watch out for her, Joe, because she'll give you 15 and 15. We. Or she might give you 20 and 20 and she might give you.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

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[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah. She eating a glass. I think when you look at Fud shooting 23 shots, she went 8 for 23. Damn. That's. That's a bit much for her now, you know. You know, considering the fact that. Yeah. What's the other girl?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Mecca Ogumike.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, she never really got it going. I mean, she was one for. She was one for nine, but.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

No, it's hard when you. When you ain't in rhythm like that and you got one person taking the bulk of the shots. Yeah, they gotta figure it out.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Ricky. Pat that rock though, man, she got. Hey, she got hams. I mean, she can dance with it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

She's nice.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, she did be dancing out there like Kyrie. Hey, so.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

But if you're gonna play that three guard lineup like that, you need a big. That's gonna be kind of beasty and bullying the paint.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And she gotta eat.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Shepherd's gotta eat like that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because like you said, Joe, they got a three guard lineup, so they're really small.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But when she's getting 16 rebounds, she might, I think, what you call leading the league and rebounding. Angel. But she's got to be like top five.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Easy.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But. But you know, watching Dallas, they're fun to watch.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

They are.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You said, I don't know when Fee coming back, but boy, when they come back and you talking about Fee Howard, I'd probably be Fee Howard, Courtney Williams and Olivia Miles. That might be the starting lineup. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I don't know if it's going to be coffee or McBride, but boy, when they put Fee and Howard in there with Courtney Williams and Olivia Miles. Yeah, I don't care who your. The other start is. Kafika. Defend. They can defend.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Score. Yeah, they got it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They got, they kind of got upset last year that the Mercury knocked them off because I think everybody was kind of anticipating Min. Minnesota and, and the Aces. Yeah, Las Vegas. I might go check the Aces out. I think they got a game here on, on Friday. I might go check them out.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, man, they, they getting it together. Boy, these women ain't playing, man. They taking the game to another level, bro.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Man. Yeah. Oh, you see what you call them. Washington beat Portland by one, Joe. And four overtimes.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn. I ain't see that one.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. 124 to 120. Well, 123. And they had a chance. Portland had a chance. Point blank. Girl missed like a five footer, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Ocho. Got to know what you want to think about this one.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Here we go.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Have decided not to include OJ on their Wall of Fame in the new High Mark Stadium.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

President of Business operations, Pete. I don't know his last name, but his name is Pete. We have made an organizational decision.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

That he is not a fit to display inside our new stadium and family circle. Simpson was the first player added to the Bills Wall of fame in 1980. Oo do you have any issue with the Bills trying to erase football legacy of O.J. simpson?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Well, listen, they can't erase football legacy now. They, they can not put him up there. But what he, what he accomplished when he played, obviously it's, it's cemented. That's not going anywhere. So them choosing obviously a business decision not to put him up in the new stadium and just based off all the stuff that happened off the field. That's all. And listen, what he did on the field can be erased. And the fact that they're not putting it up there and allowing people to view some of the things that he did for that organization back during that time, it doesn't matter. For those that know the game, for those that understand the game, for those that were around to watch O.J. play. I didn't get a chance to see him play, but I understand what he meant for the game. I understand what he did while he was playing.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I did commercials.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Oh, hey, hey. The whole nine yards. But you have to understand, I did. Yeah, yeah. From a business standpoint, Joe. Yeah, we understand why they're not putting him in there. We, we know, we know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Nah, nah, nah. Break it down for me and Chad. We want to know why. Why they ain't putting him in there.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I mean, Joe.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I mean, you saying they seen the documentary?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

You. You ain't seen the documentary?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I seen it, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah. I mean, they don't. That's. It brings, not confusion, but if I'm building something new, man, especially like a stadium, the. The one person, the one polarizing figure that's been a part of our organization that has had some unfortunate circumstances off the field, I don't want to bring that to my new place.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Oh, so you saying he did it?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

He did. Hey, Joe. I wasn't there, Joe. I don't. I don't know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

I'm saying if you watch it, unc, I know you've seen it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

What'd you think? All I know is that this is what they tell us. 12 men in jury of. Jury of his peers said he was innocent.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, so he's innocent.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The same thing they told us when George Zimmerman walked his ass up out of court.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The same thing that they told us when these police officers go between 12. 12 men and 12 women.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Okay?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

12 men and women, a jury of their peers, and they walk. They say the jury have spoken. The jury spoke.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

What you think, what you say?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

All that conjecture, all that innuendo, all that speculation does not matter. Well, this. I ain't been to law school, but I took a couple of law classes. The first thing they tell you, it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters what you can prove.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And there's a difference between criminal and civil. In criminal, you gotta prove it beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt. And civil is preponderance of the evidence.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

What he went to jail for, huh? Taking his memorabilia back.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Here's the thing. And this is what I didn't understand about him in this situation.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Why you laughing, Joe?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because it was memorabilia, Ojo. Yeah. Here's the thing. The only thing that. The only thing that. Because he lost civilly. So anything. All the autograph signings, anything that he got, that money would have went to the families of the. Of the fallen people.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Why are you trying to get that back? Okay, they stole it. So what? Hey, hey, man, my merch got stolen, man. It's insured, man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

And be the whole murder case.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, it wouldn't.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Sit down. Yeah, hey, but.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Sit down.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

He. He had good representation, you know.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

The best.

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Yes.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

The dream team.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, the best at that time, Johnny

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Cochran, F. Lee Bailey. He had Robert Kardashian. He had, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Barry Shaq The Innocence Project. How many? I don't know how many people know, but go check the innocent projects. Embarrassing. The best.

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

They call it the dream Team. It was the. It was a trial of the century. Maybe you got to go back even further, maybe to the Lindbergh child kidnapping. I know y'. All. I don't want to get too far back, but I'm just saying, this is how big this was.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

He g. He got lucky, though. His ass got lucky. Because if it wasn't for. If it weren't for that damn Furman. Hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

All right, now, the moment they put up, the moment they put us on there was over because they didn't forget. Think about it. Everybody saw. Millions and millions of people.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Saw what they did to Rodney King.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yep.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And they walked. Watched them walk out of the courtroom.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

A couple of years earlier, they saw what happened to Natasha Harlins. See, when things happen to them, they say, respect this decision, that 12 men and women have spoken.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

But now all of a sudden, they. Y' all know he did it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, but.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Hell, I know. I know a lot of people did.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello. Hello? Hello.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Nah, I don't know nothing. All I know is those men and women spoke, and they said, not guilty.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah, but listen, even with that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

And he said.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He said, what that. What that mean? He said, you guilty. Then they said, I don't know. I wasn't there. They said, O.J. said, if I'm not guilty, having my gloves back. I just said that. What he said. I don't know if he said that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I don't know. He said it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey. Innocent or not, we have to understand how those organizations think. You have to understand how those people that sit in power think. Yeah, he played organization, but to us, he's still a stain. And putting him in this new. In this new building, it ain't happening, innocent or not.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You're right, Ocho. You're right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

It's too many red flags. I mean, for those in the chat that might be Bill's fans or might say, whoa, Ojo tripping. No, I'm not tripping. I'm just thinking how they thinking. Yeah, I'm not thinking how we thinking. Like, if it was me. I understand what he did for my franchise. He. He'd be up there if it was me. But, hey, I. I don't own the Bills. That ain't my stadium. I know how they thinking, though. Hell, no, we ain't putting them in our new.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I don't think anybody. I don't. Look, we we get upset, but I don't think anybody's surprised because it's just like any restaurant, any public building, guess what they say? We reserve the right to refuse service. Yeah, we reserve the re. Reserve the right to put you up in this building or not. That's just, that's, that's just, that's just the way it is. Yeah, that's just the way it is. I mean, I'm not surprised. But you guys say you didn't see. I'm old enough to remember. If you played running back, you wanted one number 32. 32, yes, sir. You wanted to be the Juice. Now I am not telling you. I'm not telling what somebody told me, Joe. Yeah, I ain't telling what. I ain't telling what. I'm telling you what I know.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Hello? Hello.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

If you played running back, you wanted 32. Yeah, the juice was it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

I seen, I seen. I. Joe, I had to watch the highlights to get a better understanding on how good.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, he was. He was every. He was. He had it all. Yeah, he had world class speed. Yeah, he what? And he had a commercial appear before O.J. they would. No, no, Black was doing well. O.J. was getting commercials, movies, car commercials.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

He's the first in the movie. Kissing, Kissing people on tv.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Remember him in the Naked Gun, Joe?

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, I see it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I think. I'm trying to think. Hold on. I forgot what he meant. Elizabeth Montgomery.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Hey, that was, I think, I think

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

that was the movie that he was in. No, Juice was Juice was it. And like I said, I don't, I don't. I don't really, really talk about that situation, but I'm just saying is that it seems to be that things happen. Blacks go to trial, go to court, and they get a non guilty. Well, you know, he did it. But we just accept, we are supposed to accept when the jury says not innocent with someone else. Yeah, just take it at that. The jury's spoken. Yeah, okay, that. But, you know, I heard all the story. I, I've heard a lot of things about O.J. that really, that people really know, knew him. And you know, Jay Z had the song says, you know, I ain't black. I'm O.J.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah. On the 444.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Sometimes you have to get reminded who you are. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Bring you back down to earth, huh?

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

What Kanye say, no matter how you still end on a coop. Right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

No matter what.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

So. But look, I'm not surprised by this. I'm not surprised that they took this stance. I was going to be more shocked had they put. Allowed it to go.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because had they do it, if they had done it in the old stadium. You see that? Where everybody know that the silhouette, man, that's what his OJ Name used to be. So now in the new stadium, moving

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

and for the most part, when you go to the stadium, I mean, I did. I mean, but how many fans, Ocho Joe, go to a stadium and actually look. Try to look at all the greats that play. I did.

[IBM AI Representative]

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[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the NFL. I'm a historian of the game. So obviously, you know, you go to the stadium and you see. When you go to Kansas City and you see all these names up there,

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

you're like, damn, yeah, it's dope. It's dope. I like doing that. I like doing that.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. And now never thinking, ojo, when I said, foot in mile high, that one day my name would be up there.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Then one day my name would have the hall of Fame crest next to it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I never, never in a million years, Ocho Joe. I went to the hall of. We played in the hall of fame game in 1991. I went in the building. I'm in the building, Joe,

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Ocho, you remember at the Pro Bowl.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

All the hall of Famers that got selected would come over to the Pro Bowl. You. So you meet them at the promo, they'd have on the Hawaiian shirts. Normally they have on khakis and they shake your head. They come out there at halftime.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

They.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I think now they. They allow them to come out during the Super Bowl.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Right.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Because obviously, obviously, the hall of the Pro bowl isn't after the super bowl anymore. And it's, you know, it's a thing. They have it in Orlando, wherever they have it. I think they had it in Vegas. But that was. That was the thing then I was like. Like, I remember in 91, we. As a matter of fact, we played the Lions in the hall of Fame game in the building, just having a good old time. Like, damn, man. It's cool, man. Such as, man, look at. They go. Joe Green. They go with this one. They go, that one ain't even dawned on me. Hall of Fame ain't crossing my mind. Having my name up in the stadium ain't even crossing my mind, man. I'm just hoping I can make me pay. Let me get me about two or three years. At least I can tell my kids I played in the NFL.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't lie. Cause you know something? Yeah, man, I played and hey, I got me two or three years old choke, man. I had a nice little NFL career, had a nice little run. Ain't a whole lot of people get to say they played in the NFL. I don't give a damn how long they played.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst/Host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

One percent, man.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Man. But I'm not surprised. Hey, it's like, look, it probably, it probably would have caused more of a distraction had they put it in there as opposed to them leaving it out.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

You think so? Yeah, I don't know about that one.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, man. You see, man, Joe, they bulldozed that house. You do realize that, right? They bulldoze that house. If you don't know, if you don't know, you never know. His that house was right where it was. Think about that. They tore the house down, they bulldozed it, they built over it.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Damn.

[Joe (Sports Analyst)]

You know what? Let's go

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[Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia)]

Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

[News Skeptic]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

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[News Skeptic]

Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes, and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamar and Billie Jean King.

[Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia)]

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Joe (Sports Analyst, possibly Joe Johnson)]

Goodbye.

[Commentator/Host]

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