Deebo & Joe - Part2: Chris Johnson Diagnosed With ALS, Bills Exclude OJ in New Stadium, Aiyuk Calls Out NFLPA

Summary

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Nightcap – Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Chris Johnson Diagnosed With ALS, Bills Exclude OJ in New Stadium, Aiyuk Calls Out NFLPA

Date: June 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Deebo”) & Joe (Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)

Overview

In this lively episode, Shannon Sharpe (“Deebo”) and Joe (Chad Johnson) tackle a whirlwind of hot NFL topics and dig deep into the intersection of player rights, league policies, and legacy. The main topics include uniform fines and “swag” culture, the Buffalo Bills’ decision to exclude O.J. Simpson from their new stadium’s Wall of Fame, Brandon Aiyuk’s accusations against the NFLPA and his agent, the ongoing fight for grass fields, and the devastating news of former Titans RB Chris Johnson’s ALS diagnosis. The conversation is unfiltered, irreverent, and always rooted in firsthand player experience.

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Key Discussion Points

1. NFL Uniform Fines and Player “Swag”

Timestamps: 02:57–11:41

• Strict Uniform Policies: The hosts joke about how stringent “the uniform police” are in the NFL, especially regarding socks, cleats, and pads.

  • Joe: “Sometimes dudes be out there with no socks on. Frank Gore… was out there with drop socks on.” (03:09)
  • Deebo: “I know cats that cut the whole foot out.” (03:16)

• Fines Explained: Fines range from $2,500 to $5,000 for violations like exposed knees or incorrect cleat color.

  • Joe: “They say, ‘We’re an all-black team.’ I said, ‘This makes no sense. We have on a white jersey!’” (03:57)

• Function vs. Comfort: Joe and Deebo debate if pads actually restrict movement.

  • Joe: “I played my whole rookie season with no thigh pads, no knee pads. Balled out—six picks, had the most picks of my career because I was flying.” (07:34)
  • Deebo: “You need as many pads as possible when you’re in the trenches.” (08:22)
  • Memorable Banter: The two roast each other’s stubbornness about pads:
    • Deebo: “Joe, you make like you a owl when you can turn your head all the way to the back.” (13:06)

• “Swag” vs. Fines: Joe admits sometimes it's worth paying a fine to look or feel good in a game.

  • Joe: “I wore the visor on Monday Night Football because… I thought I was gonna look sweet. …Let me get a pick and hopefully make it back on the next contract.” (31:55)

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2. Bills Exclude O.J. Simpson from New Stadium Wall of Fame

Timestamps: 13:56–23:38

• Decision Critiqued: Deebo and Joe react to the Buffalo Bills’ announcement they will not include O.J. Simpson in the new stadium’s Wall of Fame, despite his Hall of Fame status.

  • Deebo: “Bro, I don't understand this. They make like he killed somebody. He didn't. Not guilty.” (14:29)
  • Joe: “‘If it don’t fit, you must acquit.’ …He got proven innocent. NFL got him in [the Hall of Fame].” (15:00, 21:28)

• Organizational vs. Personal Decisions: The hosts discuss whether this is a football or personal legacy issue and how much sway the team president versus owner truly has.

  • Deebo: “You got him on the wall because of his play, not accusations. …President of business operations—I know you ain’t got that much pull.” (20:41)
  • Joe: “If the owner wants that in the building, that will be in the building.” (21:13)

• Simpson’s On-Field Legacy: Deebo puts O.J.’s stats in context, arguing that his performance can’t be erased.

  • Deebo: “2003 yards, brother, in 14 games—143 yards a game. …If O.J. had an extra two games, that would be another 186 yards.” (20:41, 23:09)

• Memorable Quotes:

  • Deebo: “Stand on something or fall for nothing.” (23:52)

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3. Brandon Aiyuk vs. NFLPA and His Own Agent

Timestamps: 24:27–30:41

• Aiyuk’s Accusation: Deebo reads and reacts to Brandon Aiyuk’s social post, accusing the union and his former agent of withholding crucial contract information.

  • Deebo: “[Ayuk says] the union… is lying, withholding information from a player on behalf of the team alongside a certified agent. That’s some straight BS.” (24:30)

• Was Aiyuk in the Dark? Both hosts doubt whether Aiyuk could truly have been unaware his contract was voided.

  • Deebo: “Everybody knew when it was reported 2, 3 times in November, brother… you weren't paying attention.” (29:54)

• Player Responsibility: Joe emphasizes that contract voiding often begins with player conduct (“conduct detrimental”) and questions whether blaming the union/agent is valid.

  • Joe: “It takes your actions to get this whole thing started… If you aren't showing up to your team… that's conduct detrimental.” (28:04)
  • “If you have a situation… go get legal counsel and go sue them, and we should go be pursuing that.” (29:30)

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4. The Fight for Grass Fields in the NFL

Timestamps: 33:17–45:40

• Player Safety Hypocrisy: The hosts highlight George Kittle’s recent remarks on the NFL using grass for the World Cup, but forcing players on turf during the season.

  • Deebo: “We made it clear that we prefer grass fields. We know it's better on Our bodies. …Clearly we know it's possible.” (33:17)
  • Joe: “If we’re talking healthy… it’s instantly grass.” (43:52)

• NFLPA (Union) Responsibility: Deebo argues the players’ union (NFLPA) lacks strong enough leadership to make grass fields (and guaranteed contracts, healthcare, etc.) “non-negotiable.” He’s deeply critical of long-term CBA deals that benefit executives over players.

  • Deebo: “Tell your players right now say 30 each year so that you can last 18 months [locked out]. …And that’s why you don’t have grass fields. …The NFLPA… are going in there and saying oh this is a non-negotiable. They’re not saying fields is a non-negotiable.” (34:26–36:45)

• Why Owners Resist Grass: While Deebo argues all teams should convert to grass, he and Joe acknowledge logistical costs and owners’ desire for flexible stadium use (concerts, other events) discourage it.

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5. NFL Player Healthcare & Chris Johnson’s ALS Diagnosis

Timestamps: 46:33–49:41

• Heartbreaking News: The episode grows somber as Deebo and Joe discuss Chris “CJ2K” Johnson’s ALS diagnosis at just 39. Both reminisce about seeing a healthy Johnson as recently as last year’s Super Bowl.

  • Deebo: “He’s diagnosed with ALS, bro. Like 39… just last year… Did I send you the picture, bro? Like, what in the world?” (46:54)

• Healthcare Gaps: Deebo points out most players lose health coverage just a few years after retirement, making such diagnoses even more devastating.

  • Deebo: “His healthcare is about to be up in a few years bro. …CJ retired in like 14, dude. That’s crazy. And…repetitive head trauma, dude.” (47:38)

• Empathy & Perspective:

  • Joe: “You never know what people going through and how fast dude hit you, how fast things could change, like, all of a sudden.” (49:18)
  • Both offer prayers and well-wishes for Johnson and his family.

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6. Listener Questions & Closing Banter

Timestamps: 49:47–54:43

• Parenting Philosophy: A playful exchange about discipline, boundaries, and respect for rules—drawing parallels between raising kids and team discipline.

  • Deebo: “My kids had two different personalities. …You better protect your house. You better whoop his ass.” (52:17, 52:43)

• Show Teaser: Next episode will feature guest David Montgomery.

  • Deebo: “Tomorrow we will have David Montgomery joining us on the show.” (53:08)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Uniform Fines:

  • Joe: “I wore the visor on Monday Night Football because …I thought I was gonna look sweet. …Let me get a pick and hopefully make it back on the next contract.” (31:55)

• On O.J. Simpson Decision:

  • Deebo: “You got him on the wall because of his play, not accusations.” (20:41)

• On Union Leadership:

  • Deebo: “What unions do 10 year deals, man. 3, 4, 5 at the most bro. Like it’s no way, dude.” (36:10)

• On Player Healthcare:

  • Deebo: “Healthcare needs to be longer than five years after you're done playing. That's crazy.” (44:02)

• On Chris Johnson:

  • Joe: “CJ is one of the realest, one of the nicest, one of the coolest people that I met… Just humble Florida boy.” (49:18)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Uniform/Equipment Fines: 02:57–11:41
• Bills Exclude O.J. Simpson: 13:56–23:38
• Aiyuk Calls Out NFLPA: 24:27–30:41
• Grass Fields & League Bargaining: 33:17–45:40
• Chris Johnson ALS Diagnosis & Healthcare: 46:33–49:41
• Q&A and Parenting Banter: 49:47–54:43
• Show Outro & Teasers: 53:08–54:43

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Final Word

With their signature blend of humor, bluntness, and hard-won wisdom, Deebo and Joe don't shy away from the realities players face on and off the field. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants an unfiltered look at the NFL’s culture wars—from “swag” and legacy to life-altering health risks and the fight for player rights.

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Transcript

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[Joe]

That's the one thing the league they be they tight with that with the uniform police. Because look, I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes dudes be out there with no socks on. And like when, you know, it's like college, you have your out. Frank Gore. Frank Gore, he was the most I ever seen. Frank Gore was out there with drop socks on.

[Deebo]

He was down to the ankle. I know cats that cut the whole foot out.

[Tab Ramos]

Yes.

[Deebo]

Take the bottom to the ankle and had no, no sock on their foot.

[Joe]

See, that's what bro Debo. I had them ended up when my. When. When I started getting fine for having my knee exposed, I had to get the stocking, you know what I'm saying, stitched to the.

[Deebo]

How much was they finding you for exposing your knee, Joe?

[Joe]

Man, it was probably like 2,500. 2,500 2500 to five bags.

[Deebo]

That was the regular fine. 2,500.

[Joe]

500.

[Deebo]

5,075.

[Joe]

And then it's cleats. The thing was crazy.

[Deebo]

I was supposed to be five.

[Joe]

The thing that was crazy in Cleveland, Debo. I would get fined for wearing all white cleats because we was a black cleat team. I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever heard. Why I can't wear all white cleats. They say, no, we're all black team. I said, this makes no sense. We have on a white jersey. You're going to make me wear black cleats or are you going to find me? I'm like, I'm not even trying to wear colors that part. I'm like, all right, come on, league. Like all white or all black? You can't knock off all white or all black cleats.

[Deebo]

Why can't you?

[Joe]

But they did so. They did do it.

[Deebo]

I mean, you got to have majority of it to be black or majority of it to be white. Oh, my go.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Deebo]

You're not.

[Joe]

You work for me a thousand percent.

[Deebo]

What? I want you to wear this uniform, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Deebo]

Yeah, yeah. I ain't telling you you got to wear a thong underwear. I'm telling you got a uniform that I want you to wear in front of these people to represent my.

[Joe]

That's my business. No, no, you millions. Uniform. Uniform police is there for a reason. Because dude, it does. It does. It does look. It does look nice with the stripes on the socks. Got to make sure you had the stripes.

[Deebo]

If you're worth a hundred thousand a game to you, Is it worth 200, 000?

[Joe]

No, sir.

[Podcast Narrator]

No.

[Deebo]

Okay.

[Joe]

No, not at all. Not at all.

[Deebo]

You wanna. And then all these fines just don't

[Joe]

think just the things about this charities

[Deebo]

or whatever it is, they. They get the money away to whoever. You can't even say where your money go no more like you don't know where to go.

[Joe]

This is what I'm saying. There's crazy. There's fines where knees exposed for defensive backs. There's no such thing as a cornerback or a wide receiver that ever covered their knees. If you do that is the. That that shows you obviously don't know how to play. You know, your knee pad is never what your knee pad is. Never cover your knee because you got to have full bendability. And all my ballers that touch the rock. Joe, Joe, we can't have your knee pad.

[Tab Ramos]

Literally.

[Joe]

That's literally. I don't know why they hurt. Knee pads for DBs. There's knee pads for lineman and running backs.

[Podcast Narrator]

DBs.

[Joe]

I'm telling you this right now. We don't need thigh bags. We don't need hip pads. We don't need knee pads. That's just for running backs. That's for linemen, and that's for D. D line. They would probably need it. But I know one thing. I'mma speak for my DBs. We don't need no pads in our pants.

[Deebo]

I call myself going without pads in my pants because I'm looking at the.

[Joe]

Oh, geez.

[Deebo]

I'm looking at p. Yes.

[Joe]

I don't need nothing.

[Deebo]

Listen, one game. I did that for one game. You know why?

[Joe]

Why?

[Deebo]

A damn heel spun around and hit me in my thigh.

[Joe]

See you in the trenches. You're in there. I'm out. I'm outside.

[Deebo]

I never not wore thigh pads or knee pads since then ever again.

[Joe]

No, for sure that will. That will happen if that happened to me. But.

[Deebo]

And it wasn't.

[Joe]

No. Hey, you good?

[Deebo]

Sit down and practice. My leg. My whole leg swollen up, Joe. And I had to practice through that. Like whole leg, like swole up, knotted up. They Talking about some ice that. I'm not icing that to keep that stagnant blood in there. I'm bending that thing like, I'm making sure. I'm trying to keep it flexible. I gotta move that out of there, bro.

[Joe]

Listen here. I feel you. Listen, Deebo, anybody that's in the middle with the cleats and all that stuff flying around, I'm just trying to tell you. I. I'm trying to be as quick and fast as possible. And those thigh pads and covering up my knees are not helping my knees at all.

[Deebo]

It's in your mind, Joey. That's in your damn mind.

[Joe]

Joe, I was out there. I played my whole rookie season with no thigh pads, no knee pads. Balled out six picks, had the most picks of my career because I was flying. I was floating.

[Deebo]

So ever since then, you ain't been able to do it.

[Joe]

Ever since then, I wasn't able to get six picks because I had knee pads and thigh pads and too many pads.

[Deebo]

Stop that, Joe. Man, it wasn't that.

[Joe]

It wasn't too many pads. It wasn't too many pads.

[Deebo]

Stop, Joe. Joe, listen, bro.

[Joe]

Stop playing, bro.

[Deebo]

When I was a running back, boy, I used to wear all my pads.

[Joe]

I had to hit double padded, double pad, bro.

[Deebo]

Like all.

[Joe]

If you're getting hit, if you're doing. If you're. I'm initiating the hits. Nobody's hitting me. I'm out there. Boom. I see what's. Everything is going on. I'm tattooing. I. I'm. I'm in there. I'm in. I see what's going on. Hold. Okay, okay.

[Podcast Narrator]

Boom.

[Joe]

I'm clear. Nobody stepping on my toes. I'm diving in. Bum when I debo. Trust me, I got it. I got it. Like. Like a. It's what I do. So I'm trying to tell you other. Other DBs, they will relate a thousand percent. In the trenches, you need as many pads as possible.

[Deebo]

Find the hell out of these uniform dudes, lead the cats that do stuff and play on accident, drop them down to the. To the. To the equipment. They don't. They don't raise the equipment fines, too. Like 5,000 a hit, though.

[Joe]

Oh, yes, I know. It's.

[Deebo]

So now it's like, I started five, then it's 10.

[Joe]

Yeah, and it's double every. Every second offense.

[Deebo]

Listen, they need to go 50. A hundred thousand, two hundred thousand on the uniform violation.

[Joe]

Then no need.

[Deebo]

They swag.

[Joe]

Then you need to have my swag. What's your song? So you telling me you need to be 5. 50,000 for a knee. For a knee. For a knee exposed.

[Deebo]

I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a warning because you know you get warnings.

[Joe]

Yeah, you get warning warnings.

[Deebo]

And then after that, after I gave you that warning, you know, get that. You know I got that one warning out the way. 50,000. Don't come out here. You better look at that poster before

[Joe]

you walk out that locker with the. Don't be disrespectful. Don't have it looking like you have on slouch socks. Have it all the way up above the calf. Maybe a little knee.

[Tab Ramos]

It's.

[Joe]

That's okay. I know you need to get that bendability. You need that flexion. We're hauling ass out here. We're running full speed. All that Need. All that's covering up my leg. You think it's in my mind, though, huh?

[Podcast Narrator]

The what?

[Joe]

You think it's in my mind? Yes, the knee pad, Joe.

[Deebo]

The knee pad is foam, bro.

[Joe]

It ain't even heavy.

[Deebo]

You can't even measure it on a scale. You got to put it on a food scale. You got to measure it in grams like you doing something else.

[Joe]

Debo.

[Deebo]

What?

[Joe]

Okay, I. I hear what you're saying, but I'm telling you this right now, there is nobody out there on Sundays that has their knee covered as a wide receiver or a defensive back. I will promise you that. Because I. If you know how much longer your pants are going to look like. Honestly, nobody's covering their knees at wide receiver.

[Deebo]

So you. You don't believe me, Joe, I don't care. It's not a real thing. You're not restricted, all right? You have something on you. Yeah, that's like saying, hey, man, I'm restrict. Hey, Joe, I'm restricted. I can't breathe. I'm wearing this shirt. I gotta take it off. It's touching my skin. Are you talking about Nick?

[Podcast Advertiser]

No.

[Deebo]

What you talking about?

[Joe]

I. That. It's not. That's not the same thing. What?

[Deebo]

Why ain't it.

[Joe]

That's not the same thing. That's not the same.

[Deebo]

I'm gonna lose it. I'm gonna lose it. I can't believe this. So, hey, do your helmet restrict you.

[LeVar Arrington]

You got.

[Deebo]

It's heavy. You can't turn your head. No, no, no, no.

[Joe]

It's definitely less that you could do with a helmet on. And without a helmet on.

[Deebo]

Oh, my God. Joe. Joe, I'm. It's different, Joe. I don't want to hear it. I don't hear it. No, More.

[Joe]

It's different, Joe.

[Deebo]

I'm. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this.

[Tab Ramos]

It's different.

[Joe]

If you. If you put a helmet on your head and you have on and you have one of your pads, you can't turn your head the same all the way around as you could if you didn't have it on. Am I tripping?

[Deebo]

You wearing big pads, Joe? This ain't wearing shoulder pads with the. Where you. You know, the 90s and the shoulder pads sit like this.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Deebo]

No, you don't have that no more, Joe.

[Tab Ramos]

Y'. All.

[Deebo]

Which I'll wear with. Y' all don't even wear shoulder pads.

[Joe]

I got. I got the small. I got the small pads. I got the small pads. Yeah, my. Yeah, my. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you.

[Deebo]

I don't. I'm not restricted Joe.

[Joe]

You're not restricted Joe, Okay?

[Deebo]

I wear. I wear all my pads, Joe.

[Joe]

Somebody has on. Does a neck roll restrict someone?

[Deebo]

I ain't wearing no neck roll.

[Joe]

I'm not saying you. I'm saying if a person has a neck roll on. Now, are we talking about restrictions?

[Deebo]

I tell you what, though.

[Joe]

I'm just trying to figure out if.

[Deebo]

I'm trying big. I had a big cowboy collar in college, boy, I had to think, did that restrict.

[Joe]

Did that restrict you?

[Deebo]

No, no. Hell no. I'm still putting them to sleep, obviously.

[Joe]

But you still. You couldn't see what was to this side. You would see a pad.

[Deebo]

I'm like this. I'm like this, Joe.

[Joe]

How you like.

[Deebo]

I'm like this, Joe. I'm seeing it all.

[Joe]

That's you look. That's what I realized. You don't got that much rotation anyway, so.

[Deebo]

Nothing is talking about Joe. You make like you are owl when you can turn your head all the way to the bank. Like. Let me see that. I'm further than you, Joe. Yo, I'm further than you, Joe. Me, man. Hey, I thought.

[Joe]

I thought. Yeah, you. You is about to see.

[Deebo]

You is about further than me playing, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, but look, that's what my. That's why I know I'm not that

[Deebo]

old janky ass hip. You need to wear a hip pad. That's what you need.

[Joe]

Hey, look, man, no. No hip pads for me, bro. No hip pads for me. Trust me.

[Deebo]

Look here.

[Joe]

No pass, bro. No. Hey, Debo, that's wild.

[Deebo]

I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying, man. We got. We got 240 people in this chat, man. We got 75 likes, man. Y' all jump on them likes. Now look here.

[Joe]

Oh, my goodness. Yes.

[Deebo]

I don't know. So the Buffalo Bills have decided not to include O.J. simpson on their Wall of Fame at the new High Mark stadium. Bill's president of business operations, Pete to go. Something in a statement said, we have made a organizational decision that he is not a fit to display inside our new stadium and family circle. Simpson played for them. He first played in 19. He was added to the wall.

[Julian Edelman]

Sorry.

[Deebo]

In 1980. After 1980. Okay. So, Joe. They not adding him to the wall. Joe, I ain't into. In the new stadium. I guess he's obviously already there in the old one. Like, I don't. Bro, I don't understand this. They may, like, they may like, he killed somebody. He didn't. Not guilty. I don't even know what they're talking about. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I know. I know. I know it. I know it don't fit.

[Joe]

You must have quit.

[Deebo]

Hey, listen, bro, if you must have quit. Like, I don't. I didn't.

[Joe]

I didn't say it.

[Deebo]

This is a person. This is a personal decision. You know, by the. I don't know why they putting it on the President. Because really, when it comes down to it, the President is probably the owner. And when you look back and you look at now, like, the NFL, they still got the man in the hall of fame. Yeah. President of business operations. So if this don't go well, they go put it on the President of business operations that he overstepped his boundary, and we. We made a change because the fans or whoever didn't like it. And that's. I think that's. That's the route it's going to end up going. You know what I'm saying? That's just. I mean, listen, people. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Look. Hey, Mark Furman, y'.

[LeVar Arrington]

All.

[Deebo]

Boy. My friend. Your boy, Joe, my friend. Hey, listen, you can't. You can't. You can't do all that lying on the oath like that. But twice. God and all them people in front of all that. And then you go start pleading the Fifth on questions like, hey, have you ever. You know, why is it always chaos

[Joe]

when we link up?

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Joe]

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[Tab Ramos]

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[Deebo]

up any evidence you ever, you know, fabricated the planet. You know, some bloody gloves and you know you talking about the 5th. I mean when you do that and that's your style winners, you know. Listen, I'm just telling you not guilty. I don't. He's still, still in the. Still. Still in the. The hall of. Still in the hall of Fame. Not guilty. Court law this. How do you get. How you get wrongful death. You're not guilty. That's crazy. Anyway, I don't know but look, when it comes down to it, man, I feel like, I feel like he should, he should be in there. He's in the hall of Fame.

[Tab Ramos]

Yep.

[Deebo]

He, he remains in the hall of Fame. You know, I'm just, you know, what is it? 2003 yards, brother and 14 games. 143. Like he's in there. You got him on the wall because of his play, not because of accusations. What they say, like what are you talking about? You ain't gonna have him on the wall. Business President of business operations. I know you ain't got that much pull.

[Joe]

Ain't no way if the over top of his head one of them in there, he'll be in there.

[Deebo]

What do you think, Joe? What you think, Joe? What you think? You think, you think how you gonna just erase that man's legacy like that?

[Joe]

And I mean and then put it on, then put it on the. The president or something like that. Like if Operations. Yeah, operations. Because if the owner wants that in the building, that will be in the building. So I think just putting it on the reason why like if you don't like it, you own the Joint. You could do what you want, but I would feel like he's in the NFL hall of Fame. Was he guilty? Was he innocent? He got proven innocent. So, I mean, NFL got him in there. And I mean, if you personally own the team, not guilty if you are. If not, get not innocent if not guilty. If you are the owner of a situation, you can have whoever you want in your building. So it's kind of. I think that's more. It's your personal, personal decision. You gotta feel in some type of way, boom, you don't have to have him in your spot. But NFL, he not guilty. He's still in the NFL hall of Fame for what he did on the football field and accusations, all that. But then in the court of law, I said not guilty. So, I mean, you could do what you want, Mr. Bills, for sure. I'm not here to tell you how to run your stuff, who to put in your hall of Fame, or what do you want to do, but that's just. Yep. What it is.

[Deebo]

Well, the Bills fans, I think, would dictate if he will be put in there or not, depending on how they respond. If they respond for sure right now, you know, it's so, it's so much. They, they, they listening to what, what is what the. With the media and everything else say they'll go on and, and do or not do, depending on how the reaction comes from that. But 2003 yard, 14 game, damn near 144 yards again, 143 yards a game. Stop playing like. That's two. That's 2400 something in 17 games.

[Tab Ramos]

Yep.

[Deebo]

Stop it. And then the highest is Dickerson, right? Eric Dickerson, he got a 2105, and that was in 16 games. So two more games, only 102 more yards.

[Joe]

If O.J.

[Deebo]

had an extra two, two games, that, that would have been another. Another 186 yards.

[Joe]

He was running crazy.

[Deebo]

Running crazy.

[Joe]

It wasn't about that on the field, you know.

[Deebo]

Yeah, man, listen, end of the day, they go get if you're in there, and they go get if you're not in there. Thousands of poison but pick correctly and don't change because then it's gonna make you look weak. No backbone.

[Joe]

Stand on something or fall for nothing

[Deebo]

hey, Stand on something

[LeVar Arrington]

hey.

[Deebo]

Stand on something to fall for nothing hey, you like books?

[Joe]

Hey, Booby once, shame on me fool me twice can't fool me again hey.

[Deebo]

Can't fool can't get fooled again can't get fooled again fool me once Shame on you fool me twice.

[Joe]

Twice.

[Deebo]

Shame. Can't get food.

[Joe]

Can't get food again.

[Deebo]

Damn. Listen, man, your boy Brandon A.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Deebo]

Had a message for the nflpa. When members of the union that is in place to help players is lying withholding information from a player on behalf of the team alongside a certified agent. That's some straight bs. Some players have no other place to go for information or help and are relying on the union to help them continue advancing in their careers and lives. I'm sure there are great members of the union, so this message does not pertain to them. But the ones in my specific case, this cat basically said, if you're reading this. If you're reading into this correctly. If I'm reading into this correctly. Ayuk is the legend that his previous agent, who also represents. Oh, who also represents 49 GM John lynch, withheld information from him that the team had voided the rest of his guaranteed money left on his deal with the 49ers last July and that it was at least a big part of the reason he cut ties with the agent and the 49ers last November when that information was eventually revealed to the public. I certainly don't think that IU has been helpful, has been helping his cause with his recent behavior on ig, but if true, I think he definitely has a legitimate gripe here. On other hand, though, this is what actually. If this is what actually went down, why hasn't I. You taken any legal action, bruh?

[Joe]

Please, Debo, go. Please. You go first. You go first because I want to go, too. I want to hear what you want to say to this because I know you got something to say.

[Deebo]

Right?

[Joe]

What's up?

[Deebo]

He's saying that he. He didn't know. They didn't. That was news. Like, November, like espn, NFL Network, brother, they said your stuff was. It was voided. Yeah, they said that. Like, I think. I think you knew that. I don't know. Like, he's saying. I don't know what he's saying. Like, but I just think, dude, I don't think he knew or he might actually not knew. I think it came time. I think right now might be the time for like, his bonus or something. And he like, yo, where my money at? And they're like, that gone. It's voided. You lost that. So now he took off instead of just. I don't. I don't know if he was paying attention. But, I mean, it don't really surprise me, dude, what he's doing. There's no way he's getting back in there, bro. There's no way I'm like the. All the stuff he's putting out there, what he's saying, like, who's going to pick you up? No,

[Joe]

he. He's wilding out right now. Just my whole thing is right now. But if the agent. If the. I'm just trying to figure out when you start if it is like he said, if it is that his agent was. Knew that he wasn't going to get his signing, wasn't want to, was going to get his $23 million voided, you know what I'm saying? Before he did, was it just his actions that was making this happen? Do you know what I'm saying? Like not going.

[Deebo]

Said he missed. He just. It was. It was certain stuff that he had do. So it was like treatments come to all that other stuff. So he basically voided it. So you know how they get. You did something wrong here, you do something wrong here, and then they hit you with conduct detrimental because you continue to do it. I got you without contracts. That's probably what he ran into and didn't realize what the hell conduct detrimental was.

[Joe]

So. So that's what I'm saying. As far as it being your agent's fault or you not knowing, you thinking they're in cahoots. It takes your actions to get this whole thing started for you not to be going to showing up to the Rehabs, talking and communicating with the team. You know what I'm saying? Being there, that's what gets your contract voided. So it takes kind of two to tango. So, I mean, if you aren't showing up to your team and you're not going, why that's conduct detrimental. That's something that's in the contracts where you can get your money taken from that. So now you lose guarantees. Why didn't. My agent has nothing to do with your agent. Those are things that you did that when you signed that contract, you knew that you have to be there. You have to comply to certain things with the 49ers for them to make sure that they paid you the first 60 million. And then this next 24 is supposed to come. That's going to come in the next year. But if you don't do things to this contract, you know what I'm saying, we could take this away. So I. The cahoots part in like knowing what's going on and them like. And I'm just looking at it like if there's a real case where something was going on, like, go Go get legal action. That. That should not be okay. But I'm looking at, like, is it you first that it takes you to not show up to things and not be in communication with the team to then do something to get your contract voided? You know what I'm saying? So I'm just looking at, looking at it from. But if you do have a situation where your agent and the general manager of the 49ers were in cahoots working against you to be able to do something behind the table to get your contract voided and didn't tell you your contract was going to be voided, then you should go get legal counsel and go sue them, and we should go be pursuing that. But if they. If I don't. I don't see. I don't know, dude.

[Deebo]

They didn't tell him. Everybody knew. Everybody knew. Everybody knew when it was reported 2, 3 times in November, brother. What are we talking about? They voided his 2026 guarantee. They said that. That was in November. What weren't you looking at, bro? If you're saying you just finding this out now, well, you wasn't paying no attention then. That, that lets me know how much, how much more you weren't paying attention. And lack of understanding. Like, like, come on. Yeah, I just. The. The way he's going, man, I don't even see him being able to get back in, bro. Like, I can't. I can't even chance that, bro.

[Joe]

I can't. And. And even when we was talking about just, just, just the way sometimes they always. They say the coach, you know, Kyle Shanahan, he might be a certain way. And there's coaches that I play for. Eric Mangini, like, when you go to the facility, there's certain things that you gotta wear. Team organized, team issued, Team issued to the meetings. Some teams, they don't care. You could just walk in there how you want, you know what I'm saying? As long as you're on time, you know what I'm saying? Grown man stuff. So some coaches, when you go to practice, you have to wear a certain pair of shorts and team, and you're in your. Wear a certain color shoes, you know what I'm saying? And that's just the way Eric Mangini rocked. We couldn't wear visors at practice. We couldn't wear certain, like, certain color shorts. And I would want to because it's like sweat. But it's like, no. Like, it don't matter how good you are. Everybody's in here wearing the Same thing.

[LeVar Arrington]

And.

[Joe]

And when you start getting the deals and getting the contracts, like, I would see where Brandon Ayuk came to the practice in the different shorts. Once you start getting it and then start taking the shorts off and just like. Because he just wanted.

[Deebo]

So how you go from listening in practice, Joe, to wearing what you want in the games and fine. Getting fined.

[Joe]

Well, look, it was. It was. Sometimes I felt comfortable if I thought if. With. If my knees weren't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Some of the stuff was just.

[Deebo]

Damn, Joe. Damn.

[Joe]

I ain't know what to say. I ain't know what to say. Sometimes I just wanted to look cool, like Deebo. I wore the visor on Monday Night Football because I'm like, a lot of people gonna see. Let me throw on the visor because I thought I was gonna look sweet if I wore the all white cleats. It's. Cause the cleats look better with the uniform. And I thought the cleats was sticking. So I'm gonna wear the cleats. I'm like, all right, you know what? Five bands for me to feel good, comfortable in this game. Let me go get a pick and I'm gonna hopefully make it back on the next contract. So I was thinking crazily, so I don't need to do that. But I was okay.

[Deebo]

You were saying? I'm gonna pay this fine, but I'm gonna get it back.

[Joe]

I'm gonna pay this fine, but I'm gonna get it back, though, because I feel good. Look, feel. Look good, feel good. How you gonna get it back when

[Deebo]

you ain't have to pay it?

[Joe]

You could have had it. No, it was.

[Deebo]

How many, how many millions you don't paid in fines.

[Joe]

No, not millions. Not millions. Not millions of thousands. Not even hundreds. Probably around a hundred. Probably around 100.

[Deebo]

Now listen, this is a hundred, y'. All. This is 100 bands, y'.

[Podcast Narrator]

All.

[Deebo]

When the fine was 2500 that tell y'. All.

[Joe]

That's a lot of times.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Deebo]

Gave him that quick 150,000. A hundred thousand. He would have stopped that immediately.

[Joe]

Oh, for sure, for sure. I would have had on the all my. All black would have been the only police I had in the facility.

[Deebo]

You'd have spray painted them all right.

[Joe]

Everything for sure. Blackout black out.

[Deebo]

Brother George Kittle spoke out on the NFL teams being willing to use grass for the World cup matches, but not for their own football players. We made it clear that we prefer grass fields. We know it's better on Our bodies. And clearly we know it's a possible. It's possible based on everything that went into putting down grass fields for the World cup in each stadium. At this point, it comes down to the NFL making it a priority and choosing to invest in us as players because of our. Because our bodies are our businesses, which they get to capitalize on. No, it is not your players, your Dakota, the owner's responsibilities. It's actually the NFLPA responsibility. They are the ones that go in there and say, hey, this here is something that is a non negotiable. What did we say last time when they came in? When FIFA. Well, yeah, people came in, FIFA came in, they said, hey, this is what we talking about. Grass.

[Joe]

It will be no dirt.

[Deebo]

That means no money, no worldwide coverage. Y' all doing all these international games because y' all want worldwide coverage. Again, the same thing they've been telling the players, or they should be telling these players right now. The contract is up. The CBA is up in 2030. They're trying to get a deal done. Why are they trying to get a deal done now? Because they know our leadership is trash and they'll do a deal that is 100 out of the favor of the players just so that they can keep position and power and help themselves. No player or no deal, I should say should be done before the 2030 season. Like it should not be a deal done until they lock us out. To be honest with you. Unless. Unless we're getting a hundred percent of what we want. Okay, right now they should be telling them players 30. Everybody say 30 each year all the way up to 2030. So that way you can withstand 18 months of getting locked out and not getting paid, that you're good to be able to play and hold out so that at that point you can then get a hundred percent of what it is that you want or at least 90 of what it is that you want in your favor. And by then it's going to be 100 because you're gonna be not sat

[Joe]

out a whole year.

[Deebo]

They won't be making any money and they got TV contracts and everything else coming up. Why do you think they trying to get these deals done so fast? They know the leadership we just got is trash or that they just got us trash. And, and they know they're willing to go up there and make a deal. If I'm an owner and I've never, I never played the game, I'm doing the same thing, bro. I'm not making a yes, I want to get A deal done sooner. If you're going to play ball with me and give me another bull. 10 year deal. What unions do 10 year deals man. 3, 4, 5 at the most bro. Like it's no way dude. 10 year deals. And then on top of that, on top of that bro, like it's not even a good deal. Like we're doing or they're doing stuff just simply to make sure they can hold position and power. All the rules that have been changed, that have benefited, anybody has benefited more to execs in, in, in, in, in the NFLPA than it has. The players like it don't. So they do a deal before then. It's crazy. Tell your players right now say 30 each year so that you can last 18 months because that'll save you about 140, 150 of your money over that time when the new CBA will come up due and they go lock you out or you'll lock out what you don't, you're not going to get. And that's why you don't have grass field. It's not the, it's not the NFL. It's the players or the representatives for the players, the NFLPA that are going in there and saying oh this is a non negotiable. They're not saying feels is a non negotiable. We can negotiate out of that. Like you got, let's be honest though, you got cats that took this away so that I can smoke weed and not get suspended. Yeah.

[Joe]

What that was the grass fields. What do you, what do you think Debo? Should be the main things that, that the players get out of this.

[Deebo]

This bro, from the show last night to this drive.

[Joe]

Why is it never chill?

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Tab Ramos]

Good thing.

[Joe]

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[Deebo]

Yeah, you can tell.

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[Tab Ramos]

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[LeVar Arrington]

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[Joe]

This, this contract with the NFLPA.

[Deebo]

They need, they need. They. Dude, dude, they need.

[Joe]

I know it's a lot of stuff

[Deebo]

but like they need health care. They need longer health care. Okay, okay. Guaranteed contracts.

[Joe]

O that so damn. Fully guaranteed contracts. I'm.

[Deebo]

We're the only ones fully guaranteed. Basketball's fully guaranteed. We're not okay. We make more money. Well used to they make. They, they, we, we, we at least equal to or just a little below any of the other two sports together. And as far as how much money they make.

[Joe]

I got a question, Debo. Would you be. This is just throwing it out there for the contracts. Would you be against if they was like the. Instead of, you know how already say a 5 year 50 million dollar contract, 25 guaranteed. Would you feel, well let me see. 3 a 3 for 60 with 30 guaranteed. Would you just feel better if we just started doing contracts? 3 for 30 fully guaranteed. Would that be something that's like you would want that joint.

[Deebo]

I'm not lowering the money. I'm not lowering the money. Why would I lower the money? Baseball keep going up and, and, and, and giving more and more and more money. Other sports keep going up and getting more and more money. Dude, we're on every platform, dude, we're, we're in all kind like, like dude, they're trying to get it. That's why they want FIFA, why we want to get that audience. They want to, they want them to see football get realized. This is a stadium and wherever it is, blah blah, blah. Like yo, this is why we're expanding overseas, bro. It's to get more money. Dude. They want more paper and they feel like they don't. It's. What is it? They said it's almost a thousand dollars here just to get all the games if you want to watch. Because you got to grab so many apps. Like, like what are we talking about?

[Joe]

Nah, I'm with it, I think. For sure, for sure. What you're saying is that the NFLPA needs to push that as a non negotiable for the turf fields. The same way that the World cup people in FIFA did it. Because end of the day, like you said, I mean if a smart person knows that you're going to be able to take care of your business. The business is your players there. But with the owners, they're thinking about too, when they have the turf. Okay, we use the players for sure, but now they're using the business.

[Deebo]

If we're talking health, Joe, if we're talking healthy.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Deebo]

All right. Health and player safety.

[Joe]

It's instantly. Great. It's instantly grass.

[Deebo]

Instant grass.

[Joe]

It's the grass. Because. But that's what I'm saying, because you're not.

[Deebo]

You're not balking on finding the dog pissing out of guys for hits. What are we talking about? Instant grass, dude. The upkeep is gonna be what it is. That's what y' all got to do, man. Healthcare needs to be longer than five years after you're done playing. That's crazy. But guys that don't have it like that.

[Joe]

I'm just saying that the nflpa, obviously, we should do that. But I'm saying, even looking as the owners, if the owner own the joint, why, like, just. I think grass would be better for the owner that owns the facility to be able to have grass for their stadium, you know?

[Deebo]

No, not because they, they can't.

[Joe]

Because of the other thing.

[Deebo]

Because you got to cover it. You got to do a whole bunch of stuff. Other stuff. Like, like, it's like, think about it, like, if they. Yeah, like, Terry Jones had grass inside the stadium that he uses, everything multiple. That's. That's a lot more, you know, build up, cover up this, all this other stuff. You know what I'm saying? And then, like, you know, Arizona, they got one, you could roll in and out. Like, I mean, do it that way. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't know. But it's. It should be 100 grass across the NFL, period. Because you know that it is 100% safer for the players than turf. We're talking about player safety and health. If that's your main concern, what you've been preaching and gawking about since 2009 when you started finding the piss out of me. Show us. No, they shouldn't even have to say, hey, it's a. It's a non negotiable. You should jump in there and say, hey, we care that much that we doing this without having to be forced in. In all the other.

[Joe]

That's. That is what I was saying. But it's like you were saying the same. I'm like, the money for them to be able to use Jerry Jones facility for concerts, for World Cup. For all of this other money, he's making so much revenue without that 16 games when during September to December, they only gonna have that stadium. So that's four months. He has it for another eight months where he's making bread in there. So at the end of the day, I feel him where he. He, as the owner, I'm money making. But I'm like, with you, you, are you going to know what's better for your players, like, to keep your team healthy? Like, that is still a good thing where you're saying, like, you should come in for the. For the. Knowing that it's right. I'm like, I don't think they're doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So we. We want them to do it, but they obviously aren't.

[Deebo]

Yeah, dude. Like, it's like. It's like the healthcare, dude. Like, did you see the. The article that just came out with. With Chris Johnson, Dude,

[Joe]

I saw it this morning.

[Deebo]

Straight hand.

[Joe]

Yeah, I saw it this morning, bro.

[Deebo]

That's crazy, bro. He's diagnosed with ALS, bro. Like, 39, like, just last year, bro. I just saw this cat, man, at the. At the super bowl in New Orleans in, like, last year, February, bro. Did I sent you the picture, bro? Like, what in the world?

[Joe]

Crazy, bro. Like, all I wanted. I caught me completely.

[Deebo]

Here's the crazy thing, bro. And his health care is about to be up in a few years, bro. He's going to have to figure out how to pay for his own health care. When did he retire? Was it 20, 22?

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no. It was a 23. It was. No, no, it was before that. He retired in, like, it was before Team, brother.

[Deebo]

No way. No way.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deebo]

His healthcare is already up.

[Joe]

C.J. retired in, like, 14,

[Deebo]

dude. That's crazy. That's crazy. And. And a lot of that stuff. Repetitive hair trauma, dude. Like, like, come on, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, that was so sad, bro.

[Deebo]

We're talking about the safety, bruh. Like, show us, man. Get the boys grass. You can't get them grass. My man over here, ALS, bro. 39. That's crazy, dude. He said he went to the doctor,

[Joe]

bro, last year, like, yep.

[Deebo]

Numbness in the hand, dude.

[Joe]

Yep, bro.

[Deebo]

Wow.

[Joe]

I seen that because Debo, like, you when you texted me and when Risa hit the chat and I was like, oh, did y' all see this? I'm like, no, I didn't. Then I looked because the same way you said, like, I know. I saw him two Years ago at the super bowl. And you sent the picture. I'm like, I saw him two years ago, and CJ is one of the realest, one of the nicest, one of the coolest people that I met. You know what I'm saying? Just humble Florida boy. Like, he was just always nice and just had that energy, you know what I'm saying? So you know how when you don't see nobody for a long time and then you see him, it's like you saw him before, you know what I'm saying? Like, I saw him probably in 13, you know what I'm saying? When I first, like, probably third year in the league, he was going out. And then I seen him again, like, two years ago at the super bowl, and it was like, yo, what's up, Joe? Boom, boom, boom. Just happy energy. And then for me to just go in this. You don't know what. You don't know. You never know what people going through and how fast dude hit you, how fast things could change, like, all of a sudden, like, no, I just saw him. That's not. And then it's like, no, that's. That's cj. So it really just puts you in a spot where it's like life is happening. You know what I'm saying? Always just trying to keep that good. Keep that good energy, keep that good vibes, because you never know, you know what I'm saying? What's going on? So that joint just really me fast. Him being from Miami, him being super cool, and me seeing him two years ago, and it's like, damn. So just prayers out to him.

[Deebo]

Yeah, prayers up for sure, man.

[Joe]

Sure. Big prayers up to cj.

[Deebo]

Let's jump into these super chats, man. Jonathan Shop or soup?

[Joe]

Jonathan.

[Deebo]

Jonathan's hoop, I guess. $2 said Devo controls the past. The past. Okay, facts, Right.

[Joe]

Okay, facts.

[Deebo]

Apparently, the past control. Joe. Joe, you let the past control you. At least in your mind, they may not control you actually physically on your body.

[Joe]

They did it.

[Deebo]

Yeah. Touch your body. And unless your mind controls your body because your mind neglect of being able to flow freely because something is touching it. I need to take my shirt off.

[Joe]

It's touching me. I can't suffocate.

[Deebo]

All right, likely right. $2. Joe. I'm 14. Could I have a jersey? Steelers F. Browns. They want a jersey.

[Joe]

He wanted still at the Browns. See? Hello, Mr. Likely. That's not the way you're gonna get the jersey. You got to come more. More correctly than that. That's just.

[Deebo]

He's 14.

[Joe]

He's 14. I understand.

[Deebo]

I understand. Don't let him talk to you like.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. I can't let a little man talk to me like this.

[Deebo]

Yeah, give me a Jersey. Your mom and daddy did.

[Joe]

Little man tell me, give me a Jersey. A Stiller's Jersey. Likely, right.

[Deebo]

Will be likely getting the ass whooping,

[Joe]

and likely I might got to see you. No, that's. No, I'm not going to tell no kids, man. Likely.

[Deebo]

Who you talking about? I'm whooping ass, Joe.

[Joe]

Them words ain't gonna hurt.

[Deebo]

Kids come to my house. Your kids come to my house. They. They stay with me. They are now under my rules.

[Joe]

They're under your rules.

[Deebo]

They can get that ass spanked.

[Joe]

See, I'm gonna tell you this. My kids gonna be over there disciplined. My little. Hey.

[Deebo]

And that's what happens. I ain't never gotta do nothing, man.

[Joe]

Ain't gonna be no noise made.

[Deebo]

They gonna be sorry you come over there. They. They bring their kids over. They'd be like, man, you don't never act like that. Like you. You told him the rules was they shows some respect. Oh, they do.

[Joe]

Hey, look, they do got it in them.

[Deebo]

They do got it in them.

[Joe]

They ain't playing.

[Deebo]

They ain't dumb.

[Joe]

They know. They know who to act with and who not to act.

[Julian Edelman]

Right? Right.

[Joe]

Think I'm going. No, they like.

[Deebo]

Listen, I'm gonna tell you something, man. My kids. My kids. My kids had two different personalities. They had their personality when they was with a other side of the family. Then they had their personality when they was with my side of the family. Like, yeah, I get to call. Hey, he said this and that. Hey, I don't listen. Oh, calling me, using me as a threat. Y' all better start whooping some ass, y'. All.

[Joe]

Hey, look, I ain't never heard him. He ain't never said that over here.

[Deebo]

You better protect your house. You better whoop his ass.

[Joe]

Come on, man, he talking to you. He ain't talking to me.

[Deebo]

He ain't talking.

[Joe]

We got understanding on this side.

[Deebo]

No question, brother. Look here, man. Hey, guys. Tomorrow we will have David Montgomery joining us on the show.

[Joe]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Deebo]

Where he at?

[Joe]

Right where yet?

[Deebo]

Who do we was just talking about earlier?

[Joe]

Houston.

[Deebo]

Houston.

[Joe]

Houston. He better help out my good man, C.J.

[Deebo]

yeah, Lions. Lions. Letting flies. You know what I'm saying? We'll get a chance to talk to my guy, David Montgomery. We travel at the same spot, okay? We. We all out there at. At Pep. Over there getting. Getting right.

[Joe]

Getting that.

[Deebo]

Working with my guy in. Yes, sir. Yes sir. Likely.

[Joe]

Right.

[Deebo]

Just came back. He said maybe. He said no. He said mb. What's mb?

[Joe]

My bad.

[Deebo]

Okay? He said my bad. That came off wrong. I was rushing.

[Joe]

He said there we see, there we go. There we go. Likely. We got more air in.

[Deebo]

My bad.

[Podcast Narrator]

Lol.

[Deebo]

That came off wrong. I was rushing.

[Joe]

Hey, we're gonna build a report. Let's build this rapport. Likely. And I got you. Let's do this.

[Deebo]

Hey, listen, we just let them know we don't take. No, now we don't take.

[Joe]

Okay? We can't. I got came on wrong.

[Deebo]

Yeah, you got to type that different.

[Joe]

Yeah. You see, Debo, you was typing too tough. Okay.

[Deebo]

I had to lay the problem with typing. You can say it how you want to. You know what I'm saying, People, okay. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

Disrespect.

[Deebo]

What we tolerated, you know. No, no disrespect. Even like I said, even though you, you know, you got your. Your browns, you know what I'm saying? You still. You still my ace.

[Podcast Narrator]

Boom.

[Deebo]

Cool. You know what I'm saying? I'm still put somebody down about what I'm saying. I'm a fight time, you know what I'm saying, baby.

[Joe]

That's my dog I like.

[Deebo]

Listen, baby, I lie for you before I ever lie on you. You understand? Look here. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe. We got 251 in the chat right now. Only 107 likes subscribe where you get your show. Likely, right?

[Joe]

Like lightly, right? Let's keep, let's keep. Let's keep. Let's keep this. Let's keep this momentum likely, you know what I'm saying? Start off on the wrong foot, you know what I'm saying? Let's keep this banter, you know what I'm saying? Might get you that jersey, my good man. We will see you tomorrow. Same time, same place. Let's get it and we out.

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