Best of Unc getting Mad Part 2: Jalen Brown on his Celtics' TRADE, Lamar Jackson NOT the same QB, Mom VERSUS GF

Summary

Nightcap – Best of Unc Getting Mad Part 2:

“Jaylen Brown on His Celtics’ TRADE, Lamar Jackson NOT the Same QB, Mom VERSUS GF”
Host: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker
Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap dives into some of the most fiery and unfiltered moments with Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Uncle Ocho), and guests. The focus is on heated sports debates and personal takes on high-profile stories:

• The viral “Mom vs. Girlfriend” debate
• Lamar Jackson’s legacy and quarterback play
• Jaylen Brown’s trade from the Celtics, anonymous sources in sports media, and player empowerment

True to Nightcap’s style, the conversation is high-energy, unapologetically real, and full of playful jabs. The hosts dissect the issues from their lived, cultural perspective, while highlighting what’s often left unsaid in mainstream sports talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Mom versus Girlfriend” – The Viral Car Seat Debate

[03:45–15:37]

• Setup: The hosts weigh in on the viral video where a man’s mother and girlfriend argue about who gets the front seat of the car.
• Uncle Ocho is adamant: Mom always gets the front—“If Paula Antoinette Johnson going somewhere with me and my lady, she already knows she's sitting in that front seat, period. Case closed. Because you gonna get left. This one here gonna always be here. Hey, man, please.” (07:30)
• Shannon’s Take: His mother preferred the back: “Every woman that I've dated, when my mom would come, my mama, hey, my mom in the back seat, she already there...And they would say, Ms. Mary, you want to sit up? No, I want to sit right back here.” (09:11)
• Etiquette & Respect: Both agree it’s a matter of etiquette, but families are different. Ocho says, “Even if your mama wouldn't trip, your girl should know, out of respect, if your mother's coming with us somewhere, she needs to be sitting in the front seat. That's just etiquette in general.” (06:06)
• Marriage as a Line: For Ocho, the rules only change when it’s a wife: “If it was my wife. Now, that's a completely different...” (12:12)
• Guest Analyst: Adds that the mother seemed to already dislike the girlfriend, noting, “You can tell in the tone of her voice...she about sick of her any damn way she wasn't in the first place.” (05:48)
• Shannon on Relationship Unity: “Don’t nothing come between them two. Not the kids, not your family, not her family...Barney and Mary Porter was a united front.” (08:24)
• Cultural Stereotypes & Humor: The segment is peppered with jokes and stories about mothers, grandmothers, and family traditions, bringing in layers of Black family dynamics and etiquette.

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2. Lamar Jackson – Legacy, Toughness & Criticism

[24:11–41:06]

• Lamar vs. Noise: Lamar Jackson’s pain tolerance and commitment are questions after missing a game with a back injury. He directly answers: “I’ve never quit on my team before. I’ve never quit on anything, to be honest with you. I don’t know where the noise came from.” (24:31, paraphrased)
• Defining Moment?: Ocho pushes back: “Defining moment. No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a defining moment...he has a very, very long way to go.” (24:48)
• On Injury Critiques: Shannon and Ocho agree that public armchair critiques of pain tolerance are unfair. “Everybody have varying levels of pain tolerance...For you to question how hurt he is, why? What has he ever done?” (27:53–28:27)
• Sharpe’s Honesty Policy: Shannon underscores the need to be honest about current play, not just reputation: “If you want to say, Shannon, you hating, but deep down inside, you know, man, Lamar ain't played like...the Lamar, like, Action Jackson I know.” (30:24)
  • Notable quote: “Two things can be true. You can end up at a destination and still not be playing well.” (33:26)
• Consistency: Shannon defends himself against “hater” accusations by citing his critiques across all QBs: “If you're playing bad, you're gonna say they playing bad. Playing good, you're gonna say they playing.” —Ocho (32:32)
• Team Dynamics: They highlight how backup QBs are supposed to keep teams afloat, but franchise QBs must deliver when it matters: “Winner take all. You got a former MVP.” (36:55)

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3. Jaylen Brown – Celtics Breakup, Trade, and Voice in Media

[45:45–80:33]

a. Jaylen Brown on Respect and the Trade

• Lack of Respect: Jaylen details feeling disrespected during the trade discussions—he wanted a direct explanation. “I thought I earned respect enough to get that explanation. But, hey, obviously I was wrong. Hey, but that's life. We move on.” (46:00)
• On Brad Stevens: “I wasn't thrilled the way he facilitated some of the conversations...there's more to it. I just wish the more to it could have been explained to me.” (46:00)

b. Anonymous Sources & Media Narratives

• Critique of “Anonymous”: Jaylen rails against sports media hiding behind unnamed sources: “I'm tired of these damn anonymous sources, chat...They use anonymous sources to hide behind how they actually feel...” (47:17)
• Line Between Critique and Character Attack: “Critique my performance all you want, but the line gets crossed...The line is being crossed here.” (47:17)

c. Roundtable: The Business of Stars, Player Empowerment, and Narrative Control

• Sharpe’s Perspective: “It's really that simple, Ocho. Because guess what? If you got two guys that's making $300 million...they value Jason Tatum more than they value you, Joe.” (49:23)
• Guest Insight: “He's a hell of a player...I wish him nothing but luck and the best in Philly. But...they don’t like this. We have a player that is really good, that get paid a lot of money, and we can't control him.” (50:08, 51:20)
• Ocho on Player Voice: “You got to be that boy to be able to do what Jaylen Brown is doing. You can't just be anybody and not showing up on the court...and then have something to say on a goddamn podcast.” (51:20)
• Shannon Warns on Speaking Out: “But you have to be willing to say...There’s a great chance that I’m not gonna get the advertising and marketing dollars that some one...will get. You have to be OK with that.” (54:05)
• Using Platforms: Ocho and Shannon reflect on how athletes who use their platform—or refuse to “shut up and dribble”—face repercussions, yet make a difference for future generations.
• Anonymous Sources—A Double-Edged Sword: Shannon: “You found out that nicotine was addictive through an anonymous source...But you have to be careful because you can't pick and choose. I want this anonymous source, but I don't want that anonymous source.” (57:22)
• Media Machines vs. Player Voices: Ocho: “You hear it from the horse's mouth. It ain't true.” Shannon: “I'm a prime example. I left fox. They said one thing. People believed it...People are going to believe what they want to believe, and there ain't no change in their mind.” (67:02, 68:00)

d. Fan/Owner Dynamics and Player Loyalty

• The Loyalty Myth: “The teams owners have convinced their fan base that loyalty is a one way street...the players need to be loyal. We don't need to be.” (72:39)
• How Stereotypes Linger: Sharpe expresses disappointment that, as educated athletes, they still face resistance: “For the longest time, we were just dumb jocks...now we educated now. Now we have ideas...But now it’s a problem because we can speak for damn self.” (78:26–79:21)

e. Closing Notes on Authenticity

• Jaylen on Authenticity: “Is not comfortable with the level of authenticity that someone may bring...I did this as a way to storytell, tell your own stories and let people know who you are.” (64:41)
• Ocho’s Praise: “Cutting the middleman out...you're not gonna be able to control the narrative on how the public and the masses are going to perceive me. I get to control it now.” (65:28)
• Sharpe's Advice: “Be who you are. Always understand what comes with that. You have to be willing to accept the consequences that comes along with that.” (62:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I don't care who I'm with. Yeah, it's going in the back regardless.” —Uncle Ocho (15:37, on front seat etiquette)
• “Everybody have varying levels of pain tolerance.” —Shannon Sharpe (27:53)
• “Two things can be true. You can end up at a destination and still not be playing well.” —Shannon Sharpe (33:26)
• “They don’t like this. We have a player that is really good, that get paid a lot of money, and we can't control him.” —Guest Analyst (51:20)
• “The teams owners have convinced their fan base that loyalty is a one way street...the players need to be loyal.” —Shannon Sharpe (72:39)
• “Be who you are. Always understand what comes with that.” —Shannon Sharpe (62:24)

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 03:45 – Start of “Mom vs. Girlfriend” segment, heated debate begins
• 07:30 – Ocho stakes his final position; “Mom rides up front or you getting left!”
• 09:11–12:26 – Nuanced discussion on family etiquette and when marriage changes the equation
• 24:11 – Lamar Jackson segment begins
• 27:53 – “Everybody have varying pain tolerance”—discussion of injury narratives
• 33:26 – “Two things can be true” – classic Shannon Sharpe phrase
• 41:06 – End of Lamar/Jackson Ravens defense analysis
• 45:45 – Jaylen Brown sound bite on lack of respect in his Celtics departure
• 47:17 – Jaylen on anonymous sources and player reputation
• 54:05–56:10 – On consequences for using your athletic platform as a voice
• 62:24–63:26 – Sharpe on accepting the costs of authenticity and “playing their game”
• 72:39 – The myth of loyalty in pro sports and management spin
• 78:26 – The uneasy transition for athletes who challenge “dumb jock” stereotypes

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Conclusion

This Nightcap episode encapsulates the show’s trademark blend of unfiltered perspective, cultural nuance, and sharp sports insight. The Ocho-vs-Shannon debates offer an authentic lens on the intersection of sports, family, business, and identity. The Jaylen Brown trade discussion unpacks the realities of modern player empowerment, narrative control, and the complications of authenticity in an entrenched sports media landscape. Meanwhile, the Lamar Jackson talk is a pitch-perfect example of how former pros defend athletes against media and fan hot takes—without sugarcoating when performance drops.

If you haven’t listened, expect barbershop energy, generational wisdom, and enough one-liners to keep you thinking long after you hit pause.

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Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

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[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Commercial Announcer]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, I've been wanting to talk about this video for a minute. Take a look at this. What happened?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Man,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not sitting in the back seat.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

You need to get out. You gonna sit in the back seat today. You need to get out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not sitting in the back seat. My mom is coming.

[Commercial Announcer]

So I ain't gonna lie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna have to get in the back. What you mean you not sit in the back seat? It's not that deep. Just sit in the back seat. Okay, bye. Y' all not married anyway, honey. Y' all we just going somewhere. You act like you got to sit in the back seat forever. Okay, bye. That's real crazy. Like what? Hey, if it's not that deep, why she, why she didn't get the bag?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, listen, that is that. Mama get in the front seat. I mean, that, that's a red flag right there. Like, I, I, I deal with that. You shouldn't have to tell your woman if your mama's coming sitting with you that your mama's sitting in the front seat. That woman said that woman always come

[Shannon Sharpe]

first, no matter what. So that means. So if she sits in the back, that Means she's not first.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, please. Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I wish you would try to get Hurricane Paul to sit in the goddamn bag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Joe. What you think?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

The hell you say?

[Guest Analyst]

I'm. Just keep it 100. My mama wouldn't trip like that. My mama. My mama wouldn't trip like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, Joe.

[Guest Analyst]

You know what I mean? Like, it seems to me that the mama, she ain't really feeling short in no damn way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. You can tell.

[Guest Analyst]

I can hear it in the tone of her voice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Guest Analyst]

She about sick of her any damn way she wasn't in the first place,

[Shannon Sharpe]

so she don't want her son to be with him. There you go.

[Guest Analyst]

There you go. I'm just keeping real, bro. Like, I ain't think it was deep. I felt like moms could have said in the back. And it made me think about my mother. My mom wouldn't. She wouldn't have acted like that. She wouldn't have been.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

But, Joe, even if your mama wouldn't say nothing, even if your mama wouldn't say nothing, your girl should know, out of respect, if your mother's coming with us somewhere, she needs to be sitting in the front seat. That's. That's just etiquette in general. Even if your mama wouldn't trip, my mama, she gonna cuss out. That's my mama. She gonna cuss your ass out if you even attempt to sit in the front seat. Well, now, even though your mama wouldn't trip, whoever you're dating at that time should know and understand that. My mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell them from the jump, get in the front. Why the hell I ain't. I don't want to sit up there with him.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Honestly. And I've never had. I've never had my girlfriend sit in the back and my mom sitting in the front. My mom has always wanted to sit in the back. That's just me. And I'm not saying, hey, to each his own. And how you handle it how you want to. And the tone in which she talk. Oh, it's not that big of a deal. If it's not that big of a deal, why you didn't sit in the back.

[Guest Analyst]

Right? Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You made it a big. You made it a big deal. You tried to show out and, And, And, And, And.

[Guest Analyst]

And. And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And a son.

[Guest Analyst]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Forget what he said, bro. You got to handle that. Come on now.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If, if your mom not feeling that. Don't even bring her around. Don't bring your. Don't put. Don't put your Girl in that situation. And don't put your mom in that situation.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Man, y'. All. Man, y' all tripping, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you mean?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I don't care what my old girl going, boy. If Paula Antoinette Johnson going somewhere with me and my lady, somebody I'm dating, she already knows she's sitting in that front seat, period. Case closed. Because you gonna. You go, you gonna get left. This one here gonna always be here. Hey, man, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, hey, I agree with Joe. I'm with Joe on this one. This too, like I said. But my mom is not that big of a deal. My mom would never have tripped like that. It was almost like you said, Joe, she's not feeling her. And she wanted an opportunity to shine on her. Yeah, I congratulate the old. The lady said, hey, I just get in my car and I follow y' all up there.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't no business.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, hey, you can tell in the tone of her voice, bro, from listening. I'm listening to mom talk. That's a tone that sound like, all right, you on your last damn straw with me. You know you tripping about this damn front seat. That's what it sound like to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna tell. I will say this, and I've all. And I've learned this from my grandfather and my grandmother. Don't nothing come between them two. Not the kids, not your family, not her family. Barney and Mary Porter was a united front. If Barney said no, don't you take your ass to Mary and ask. If Mary Porter said no, don't you take your ass to Barney. And that's it.

[Guest Analyst]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the Bible speaks. Don't nothing come between them. Because if I guarantee you, if you let somebody, if you let Mama, you let Daddy, you let kids come in there, it won't be long before you hear. It won't be long.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Hey, but, yeah, that's. That's. That's what it sound like to me, fellas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, hey, every woman that I've dated, when my mom would come, my mama, hey, my mom in the back seat, she already there.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So she's not gonna give you. And. And they would say, Ms. Mary, you know, Ms. Mary, you want to see? You want to sit up? No, I want to sit in front. I want to sit right back here.

[Guest Analyst]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's just the people that I've dealt with. Everybody doesn't deal with it. But I'm just saying, it just came off as nasty. It came off as mean spirited. That's what. It came off to me because she could have said, well, you know, baby, I want to. I want to sit in the front. She could have said it in such a way. But the tone lets me know that, hey, and like I said, bro, if. If it's. If it's. If this is not the first time something like this has come to it. It came to. Came to this joke.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so we know this is not the first time. If it's going to continue. Don't. Don't put your. Don't put the lady that you're seeing if you're not married. Don't put her. And don't put your mom in that situation. Don't put him in that situation. Just don't.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, I don't know. My mama would have been gladly to sit back there with her grandchild, boy, she. Hey, that's just how she was, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely that. Well, look, like I said, Joe. Hey, everybody. Hey, Ocho. Say, hey, Paul. Hurricane gonna be in the front.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey. Hey, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna make sure she in the front because anybody that ain't wearing no ring and all I'm doing is taking you on dates. And you. Anyway, you getting your ass in the back because you probably gonna be here for the long haul anyway. Half of the people we dating during this time of when we were outside like that, man, them people seasonal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got your kid. You thought enough of her to have her give her a kid.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hold on. Mama gonna be here forever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You thought enough of that woman. You say she was seasonal, so you gave her season.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Mama gonna be. Like I said, mama gonna be here forever, kid or not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if she don't ride in the front, that means mama's not here.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Now, what did I just say? Mama gonna be in the front no matter what. I don't care who it is and whoever it is no better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you.

[Guest Analyst]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, like I said, you know, your mom. My mom is kind of. I guess me and Joe kind of like this because my mom getting in the back. She just gonna get in the back. That's just the way it is.

[Guest Analyst]

See, See my mama. You see how Shorty got in the front first. And the mama looked and was looking like, hold on. I noticed ain't in the front seat. Like, my mama wouldn't have done that. Shorty would have got in the front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My mom would probably got right in the back.

[Guest Analyst]

Got right in the back. No question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, wife comes first. They ain't. They wasn't married the situation, so we got to stick to the situation. No, these are just women that we're dating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say wife. I say my wife. I said girl. Anybody.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I'm just saying. I'm just. I'm just saying in general, someone that we dating has no authority to be sitting in no goddamn front seat. Especially when your mama going somewhere with you. It's just when we date now. Now, if it was my wife. Now, that's a completely different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is it different?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

What? Your wife always come first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you talking about? But you said. Hold on. You just said Paula is always going to come first. You just said that. Even with wife.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I said in the person that all of we're doing is dating. The title was nothing but a girlfriend. My wife. In the Bible, as a brother of the cloth, you know, the wife comes first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Honestly, I'm gonna be honest. I don't believe you would. I don't believe. I think if. If your mom was alive and even if you married, you're gonna put your wife in the back.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

If I for one, the woman I married know my mama coming in the front anyway, we wouldn't be married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, Joe. So it doesn't give the title, does it, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

No, you didn't listen to what I just said. The woman that I'm marrying and jumping the broom with is already going to know that my mama go in the front anyway, or we probably wouldn't even be getting marrying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As a man of the cloth, your wife would. Joe, did he not just say that?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

See, you're not understanding. The woman that I'm marrying is going to understand. Even though I put the ring on your finger and even though we've made that vow before God, you understand in that situation that my mama is still going in the front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. You just said as a man of the cloth, the Bible says.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

You not listening to me. You hear? You hearing me, but you're not listening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm listening to what you said. Joe, hold up. Listen to Joe. What did he say?

[Guest Analyst]

He said she basically gonna have to get in the back regardless. His mama gonna come first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. But he said that's not my wife. That's seasonal. But if I had a wife, it doesn't matter.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

She would have an understanding to anyway, let my mama go in the front anyway, whether we married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you said. Yo. I thought you said nobody comes in front of your wife.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

She would understand

[Shannon Sharpe]

why does she have to understand why your mom can't understand?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

The same way does she understand why I put a ring on the finger because she understands certain things even though we're married now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you talking about? That's not what the Bible teaches us. That's what you said. You're a man of the ten Commandments.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, stay, stay with me real quick now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Who following all 10 commandments?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So another one. So don't look at the Bible. You're not a man. You're not a man of the clothing. And I'm okay with that. Just stay here, chat. Y' all see what I go through? Y' all see what I go through in this man here. But no, like I said, I, I,

[Guest Analyst]

me,

[Shannon Sharpe]

in the relationship that I've had, my mom is never. My mom is always just getting the back. Cause my mom is gonna be. Hey, my mom is always gonna be ready. She already in the truck by the time I get downstairs and get in the vehicle. My mom, My mom is asking what we driving, what we going in? We going in the truck. My mom already sitting in the back seat.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, that's mine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She done got in, turned the cone, got the air conditioner running. She in the back.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even if, even if one of my girlfriends would try to get in the back, she's like, nah, get up there in the front. Yeah, the hell you sitting back here for? Yeah, that's. Hey, to each his own. I mean, look, they're gonna be varying the opinions.

[Guest Analyst]

Sound like. It sound like Hurricane Paula ain't playing no game, this.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, Joe, I tell you one thing. It wouldn't have to be my mama. I don't care who I'm with. Yeah, it's going in the back regardless.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hold on. You put your girl in the back in front of the kid. The kids going to the front.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, now the kids always going to back. They look badass. They always touch, they touching the ac. They touching the radio.

[Guest Analyst]

I'm gonna say. Cause you, you, you showing out. You showing up.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, I got one right here, man. Look at this one. Let me see. Where's she at? You can see. You see her?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She on that couch.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, on my little bed when I began that lay down.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, you be taking your little nap right there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

How you know? Yeah, so I lay down there on the couch a little. It look fold up, look little sofa bed. It unfold and I watch TV right above my head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but like I said, I mean, it's just like. I don't know. I guess it's just like, like, I don't know. My grandmother like, my grandmother never. Never learned how to drive, so it wasn't enough for her. She get in the back quick. I'm like, I ain't no taxi, Granny. Get in the front. My grandma be moving. You know, them old people go jump straight in the back, Joe, they don't want to ride the front seat. They get in the back seat. I'm like, granted, get in the front seat.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, my grandma, she love to drive, boy. She came, she couldn't wait to get out and about. She couldn't help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She.

[Guest Analyst]

She. She never stayed in the house. I'm gonna keep it real. She stayed on the go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, my grandma said, and telling you how to drive, you put your blink on. Granny, you ain't right. What you mean I put my blink on? Hey, hey, you going?

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, right? Slow this thing down.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was like, I'm about to put you out. Hey, I ain't gonna get out. I said, you up here trying to tell me how to drive? I said, granny, you ain't never drove anything.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, it's. It's. So I got p. I see people all in the chat, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you talking about?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Do people all. Few people all in the chat talk about Ocho, you dead wrong. And so for anybody that's already been in this situation has had a situation like this where they felt the woman, whoever they seeing at the time, goes in the front, right? If the situation happened to you before, in general, everybody that's talking trash, I guarantee you not with that woman no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I bet you is guys saying that or is women saying that?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I mean. I mean, ain't no telling. Probably women, probably guys. Either way it goes, I bet they not with the man no more, you know, hey, come on, man, Please to eat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here. We different. We got. I mean, look, it's. It's okay. I mean, Joe and I see. Sometimes Ocho and I see stuff one way, Josie it another. Sometimes Joe and I see things one way, Ocho sees another Sometimes Ocho and Joe and Joe see something one way, and I see it another. It is what it is. I mean, to get you to get unanimity on an issue like this is probably not gonna happen. I think the background, how we were raised and the environment that we were in, I think it kind of creates how we view things, the prism in which we view things now. And it's okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I tell you what. I tell you what. If anybody. If Cambodia want to sit in the front seat right now, she can. You know why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we know why. Your mama's not killing my mama

[Guest Analyst]

unless

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

my mama come down. Hey, unless my mama come down from him and say, baby, I'm gonna ride with y', all, she gonna be in the front.

[Guest Analyst]

Damn boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, if Granny came down, you best believe everybody getting in the back. Ain't gonna be nobody but hurry down. As a matter of fact, if Granny came downhill, I might not be in the truck cause I would be scared my damn self so she might be in the truck by herself.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, could you. Hey, could you imagine that? Hey boy, just the thought of that, boy, that's scary.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

OH Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday against the Steelers of the regular season finale. Lamar told the reporter, 100% I'm going to be out there. While he missed Saturday's victory over Green Bay with the back intuition, he's been a field participant in practice Wednesday and Thursday. Lamar added he's planning to wear some protective padding for the back Sunday's game. Lamar also addressed some of the skepticism about his ability to pay through pain. I've never quit on my team before. I've never quit on anything, to be honest with you. I don't know where the noise came from. Ocho, is this a defining moment for Lamar's legacy?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, defining moment. No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a defining moment. Obviously legacy. It takes time to continue to build. They're going to be ups and downs when it comes to creating that legacy that we're talking about for Lamar Jackson, he has a very long way to go. He has a very, very long way to go. I don't like, obviously, when it comes to some of the great players, especially at the quarterback position.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

You're going to have times like this where they're rumblings where, where, where, where you, you have certain people saying certain things, but you really don't understand what it is they are saying and why it's coming about, about you. You think about Lamar Jackson. He don't say much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

He don't say much. You know, you don't. He don't talk much. So it's hard to, to be able to text some of the things and out about him unless you're internally and inside that building, which is weird to me, which is why I said what I said. When a certain beat reporter, whether the beat reporter for them or whether it's the beat reporter in Baltimore in general. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think Mike Preston, is he a Beatle columnist? Because I think Mike, Mike, Mike. Mike Preston was. He was a. I think he was a beat reporter when I was there. He might be a columnist now, but. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, I think if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure if the. Colin Cowherd. Did Cowherd have. Have some. Have some things he might have said earlier in the week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, did. I didn't hear. Oh, Joe, I don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, listen, I might be wrong. I'm quoting me to some things that, that, that only someone internally would know and I could be wrong about that. But, but again, listen, this happens. This happens. I think Lamar is going to be fine. The rumblings, you know, like I said all the time, you know how this business works. You know how this Business works. Where there's smoke, there's fire a little bit always. There's always a little bit of truth, you know, so he gonna be fine whether it's in Baltimore or whether it's somewhere else. Because we know, you and I both know what another, another team is getting. You know what he can bring to the table. You know he gonna bring the table and he gonna bring some legs with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think he's leaving Baltimore. Not no 29 year old quarterback that's a two time league MVP. You ain't getting rid of that. Look and see what happens. Ocho, I don't know if you've ever been nicked and had to leave a game. But I've been nicked and left the game.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, and then the next week I was able to play. There are certain things that happen that you're not ready, you're not able to go back in, you're not able to finish the game. It's okay. It's happened. Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback that's been knocked out of a game and hadn't been able to go back in. It happened. I don't know. Look, if you want to say that he hadn't played up to the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing this year, I will concede that. But for you to question how hurt he is, right. Why? What has he ever done to lead you or make you want to question, Right. Whether or not he's hurt. Everybody have varying levels of pain tolerance?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Pain tolerance, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And people like what? Shoot. Look, by the time that it shot it up, it's going to take 30 minutes to 40 minutes for the medicine to get in there. The game's over and he might not be a guy that wants to shoot up. Everybody ain't like me. I'm shooting up and I'm trying to go next week or whatever. That's me, Right. But I don't, I don't look at somebody because I did something and think they automatically should do something. I don't, I've never been like that.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I worry about me. That's all I can worry about. That's all I, that's really all I'm responsible for, was me.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I don't like, and I agree with Lamar. I don't know what he's done to make you question whether or not he's been hurt. Like, oh, he ain't really hurt with Little old back. Well, I've been hitting the back before. It hurt.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, just like Ty Simpson. Ocho. You see how Ty Simpson, when he called that ball up, I got hit in the back just like that in Kansas City. And I coughed that mofo up, too.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right, Right up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take it.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

And the funny thing about the people if that. That have never played sports or play any. Anything in anything competitive, you'd have to understand if you. If you get kneed in the back in a certain area, in. In a soft tissue area and you get a goddamn back contusion until you felt that. Until you felt that goddamn blood harden up and it's stiffen up in that certain area and you can't move and you can't bend. You'll never understand. You'll never understand. So, I mean, listen, I had a contusion right on. Right on my thigh. Someone kneed me on my thigh, and it got to the point where the contusion was so bad where I couldn't bend my leg.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that happened. That blood settled. Bingo.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I. I mean, so I can understand that back area. Oh, my goodness. I could just. I could just imagine what young bull was going through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, my thing is, and I've been abundantly clear, y', all, be honest, Has Lamar Jackson looked this year like he did last year and the previous years? Yes or no? Be honest.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

No, because the numbers are not the same as they were last year. Unki was 41.

[Jaylen Brown]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Unki with 40. Hey, he was 41 and 5 last year, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Or take the MVP. Even if you take the seasons, he got hurt a couple of. I think 20, 21. He missed four games, missed five games each year, so that's 10 games. But if you go back and look at the season that he's won the mvp, and last year, he could have won. Chad, don't do that. Because I'm saying he doesn't look the same this year as he has in years past.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not hating. That is factual. How many touchdowns has he passed for this year? How many interceptions does he have? So when you look at it, if you just look at it objectively, I get it. That's your guy. You supposed to ride for your guy. But deep down. And if you want to say, Shannon, you hating, but deep down inside, deep down inside, you know, man, Lamar ain't played like he been like. He, like. Like the Lamar, like, Action Jackson I know.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. You can be honest. I was honest when I said it about Patrick Mahomes. Who the heck? I called him a homeboy. State Farm didn't want to give me no credit. They called him a homie. Ain't nobody ever called that man my homie or my homeboy before I said it. They call him Patrick Mahomes. I said last year and this year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look the same.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And y' all look at it because he went to the super bowl, you. But still, you gotta peel the layers away. It's okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. The numbers aren't the same.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got no dog. I. Look, I want the Ravens to win outside of the Broncos. The Ravens. I root for the Ravens, obviously. But at the end of the day, I still gotta be honest. And when the Broncos don't play well. Oh, y' all forget that, though. But I get it, you know? You know what? You more hard on black quarterbacks. I don't know. I got into a very heated discussion with my partner on television. What quarter, what color was that quarterback? Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. He would. He would. He would. He would watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So y' all missed that part of what me and Ms. Skip got into it about Brady or when I was on Romo? Y' all missed that part. What about Cousins, Baker Mayfield? Did y' all forget about how we went for eight, nine straight weeks until the man got traded? And even when he got to Carolina, I was still on Baker's neck. Yeah. Where were y' all then?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. Hey. Hey. One thing about it, one thing I can say about your boy, it don't matter who it is. Black, white, black, white, yellow, green, Skittles, it don't matter what it is, but you fail. If you're playing bad, you're gonna say they playing bad. Playing good, you're gonna say they playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say that. I don't try. And people see a lot of times, Ocho, what people try to do. If I say, man, Ocho didn't play good, well, you. I'm trying to take away your Pro Bowls. I'm trying to take away your All Pro. No, you did that. That's gonna be on your resume, right? I'm talking about right now. Yeah, that's all I'm talking about right now. I stayed on Romo When Brady didn't play good, I was on Brady. When Baker didn't play good, I was on Baker. When Peyton Manning didn't play good, I was on Peyton when he was losing no playoff games. But y' all don't remember that.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

They might. Hey, they might be too young to remember that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They remember when I was on break.

[Guest Analyst]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't too young to remember what just happened to two years ago.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On Undisputed, they remember.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They choose not. They just try to wear this and no, no, bro. When Mahomes didn't play, when Mahomes wasn't playing well this year and last year, where did he end up? Two things can be true. You can end up at a destination and still not be playing well.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

It happens all the time,

[Shannon Sharpe]

but just know it. I'm saying Lamar doesn't look the same to me. When he came, he wasn't playing well before. Not like the Lamar we used to seeing. And then when he got nicked and came back, he wasn't the same. Even his mom said in the play leading up to the playoffs, he should have run more. But when I said it, I'm hating.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

His mom told him, yeah, hey, do, baby. Do what you do best now. Do what you do best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No goal post, moving. His coordinator said this is the first time. If he practiced tomorrow, he will have practiced Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, since week 10. Normally, Ocho, when you healthy, you practice, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Practice, yeah. Especially the quarterback. Especially the quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because his is all about timing. It's all about timing, right? Man, y' all need to. Y' all need. Y'. All. Y'.

[Guest Analyst]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all gotta. Y' all gotta. Y' all gotta stop making everything. So I guess when I. I don't know. I need to see. I need to see Orlovsky. No, I can't.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He the wrong guy because he gonna support every quarterback. But I need somebody. I need. I need some of these white guys to do what we do when they criticize a white quarterback. I wonder if the white people come in their chat and come on their DM and say, you hating. I just. Because I want to see. I gotta see because I know that's what we do.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess. I just want to see, Ocho. I just want to see for a date.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

God damn it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Goddamn light went out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I just thought you was dark skinned.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Nah, Unc, man, that's not funny, man. Like, ain't nothing going right with this shit today. My camera. Hey, you ain't noticed My camera went just clear not too long ago, huh? You look the same no earlier. You ain't notice it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I did notice it, though, y'. All, so.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I gotta. I gotta. I got a new camera. I got a Sony. I got a Sony A7. A new Sony A7. Then I got the new Type C. What you call it? Type C? I don't understand all this, but I had Dean. Dean, a friend of mine, obviously. Ash. No, Dean. Hey. Matter of fact, Ash. Thank you. Ass. Because. Because you allowed me to meet Dean. He helped me change my whole goddamn setup. So I'm gonna be professional. Like, unk. Give me about two. Hey, I'm gonna have my own team. It's just gonna be two people, though. Yeah, I'm gonna have my own team. I'm excited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That would be awesome.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, this would, this would be huge for Lamar. They've been down, they haven't been in first place in the division, and now all of a sudden to come back and win the division. He missed the game. And that's what your quarterback's supposed to do?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What does the backup supposed to do? Keep you afloat until the starter comes back.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We saw Matt Jones do it and do it for San Fran. San Francisco.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep them afloat until the starter gets back. Boom. Now you in position. Okay, Lamar, winner take all. You got a former MVP. You got two former MVPs locked up. Last game of the season, win or take off.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, this is going to be a good thing. And matter of fact, all the rumblings and all the noise, it's gonna quiet everybody. Especially, Especially with the way the Ravens started the season ofa with a donut. And they come out on the back end. You know, listen, this is not, this is not a sprint. It's a marathon. It ain't how you start, it's how you finish. So if they finish with the win and make the playoffs and win the AFC north, well, guess who won't get the credit? The same one they've been talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

So I, I, I honestly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, he's gonna have to play well because the defense, they, they don't rush the quarterback.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The last guy that you want to have is somebody as accurate as Aaron Rodgers. Then you can't get pressure on him. Oh, yeah, that's the problem.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

But you know what the good thing is for the, for the Raven defense is even if you don't rush Aaron Rodgers, who the hell finna get open to catch the ball, brother? Darnell Washington is out. He hurt?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's broken.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

DK is out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Calvin Austin probably gonna be out again. So you ain't got nobody but game. Well, fryermouth. Oh, mbs. Val Scantling.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Adam Thielen.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Okay, so now where's my offensive production gonna come from? Where my big play? Big play?

[Guest Analyst]

Is gonna.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

My chunk plays. You mean to tell me I have to drive the ball all the way down the field, 80 yards every time?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be perfect. Because who your playmakers back there on the back end? I don't know if you noticed, but you see how they be giving up yards. That Raven secondary.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, hey, whoever. Whoever. Number two on you getting the ball.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Nate Wiggins had a bad game, Monk. He had a. Yeah, he had a bad season. 2.

[Guest Analyst]

2. 2. 2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two games he's had a bad season.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

It was that bad. All you know, I don't really. I don't really watch the Ravens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ask the Ravens fans what they think.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, Ravens fans, if y' all in the chat, Nate Wiggins. It was that bad this year, huh? What was it? Was it that bad this year? Talk to me. Talk to me nice, too, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Marlon ain't. Ain't been the same.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. Somebody said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if he broke his hand because you see him had, like. Oh, yeah, something cast up. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Got the patent on there. Yeah, He. He cast up. No, Some. Some people. Yeah. The chat. The chat is kind of conflicted on most of them saying Marlon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Marlon's been bad. The secondary has been bad. What is the Raven secondary rank in past coverage, but a lot of that has contributed to the front.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah. Not being able to get any pressure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not being able to get any pressure.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right. They say. They say, yeah. Nate, Nate, Nate having a down year, but Marlon is worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where's the Raven secondary? Where they in past defense? Because I don't think they got nobody with five sacks.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I think. I think the person leading in, Saxy, might have six, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, the. The dn. I can't remember his last name. I think he has six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're 20. They're 30th in past defense.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

30th.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's only 32 teams.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

God damn. Okay, now. Hey, that. Now that's. That's bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess who there are two teams worse than pass defense. And they. Both of them got seeds. Colts, Cowboys.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad my Bengals ain't in that. You see that? You see, we get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We moving on, y'. All 27. I couldn't let you get too happy. You starting to celebrate too much.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, that don't make it no better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You like? Well, we.

[Guest Analyst]

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[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, guys. Jaylen Brown took the twist to address the trade. Philly, Boston and anonymous sources. We have all four sound bites so we can provide context because we like to provide context. Here's Jaylen Brown on Brad Stevens and Boston.

[Jaylen Brown]

Message was received. I wasn't, I wasn't. I wasn't thrilled with the amount of respect that was showed during this process. You know, I think there was a bit of a lack of respect. I think it was fine at one point and then I know where things just kind of went left. You know, I think Brad is probably getting a lot of the criticism. I wasn't thrilled the way he facilitated some of the conversations. But I definitely think there's more to it, Chad. There's definitely more to it. I just wish that the more to it could have been explained to me because if the more to it was explained, I think I would have understood. I thought I earned respect enough to get that explanation. But, hey, obviously I was wrong. Hey, but that's life. We move on. One thing I wish in this whole process, you know, and it's good to get it out the way so we can move forward. I wish that my integrity and character haven't been attacked so much during this whole process.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's Jaylen Brown on anonymous sources.

[Jaylen Brown]

I could stand up for myself, which I've been doing. You know, I feel like that's a narrative that people have been using for a long time to try to attack me and my character. I could rebuttal, but what I really want to say to this is we gotta stop with the anonymous. We gotta stop with the anonymous sources chat. Like, I'm tired of these damn anonymous sources. Like anonymous executive anonymous source, Colin Coward, Bobby Marks, Stephen A. Smith. Anonymous sources are saying anything. I think y' all are the sources. And if not, y' all shouldn't even say it if it's something that's this ridiculous. But we gotta stop, like, at one point is. I mean, this is a part of the reason why I started streaming in the first place, because they use anonymous sources to hide behind how they actually feel or to hide behind things that could be controversial or to hide behind things that are, you know, are examples of bigotry. So this is an example of one. But this is not the first time. Stephen A. Smith said the same thing a couple years ago. He was like, it's not me. This is our anonymous source. And Bobby Marks said the same. It's not me, it's my anonymous source. Colin Coward said the same thing. It's not me, it's my anonymous source. But they don't see how much damage that can do. And now I got to answer questions to, like, my character and being Italian, this is my life. Keep it basketball. Nobody has a problem. People think I have a problem with people critiquing my performance. Critique my performance all you want, but the line gets crossed. And then they want to act like the line doesn't get crossed. The line is being crossed here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, let's take. Before we go any further, let's take the first one where he says with the Brad Stevens situation, he thought he had earned and played well enough. To get a respect and be offered an explanation. I got a simple explanation that we're not going to play two guys to the end of their contracts. $300 million a piece. They value Jason Tatum more than they value you, Joe. It's really. It is.

[Guest Analyst]

It is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's really that simple, Ocho. Because guess what? If you got two guys that's making $300 million on a contract and they are one year apart and they both play well, what are they expecting? Their next contract? 400 million. So you want me to have $800 million tied up in two guys? It was never going to happen.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The fact of the matter is that the Boston Celtics always view Jason Tatum more favorable. They all. They felt that he was the better player. And like he said, and we're going to get to this, Jason Tatum was right here. He Jason Tatum. Color between the lines. Jalen Brown.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, listen. I love jb, bro. Like, I was once his teammate, Uncle Ocho, for a very, very short period of time. I did a 10 day with Boston. This was the last part of my career. And I got to know JB pretty well. I think he articulates himself very well. You know what I mean? I think he's a hell of a player, and I wish him nothing but luck and the best in Philly. But this is why I asked y' all the other day. I'm like, man, they gonna have a problem with guys podcasting, because now we get to hear everything that kind of that's going on with inside of Boston and how they really feel about jb, but we get to feel his. His thoughts to where, you know what I'm saying, his point of view, to where he can kind of relay it to us or convey it to us in a way, to where we can kind of understand, man, this man ain't crazy, bro. You know, he understands. He understands, you know, the talent that he has. And, man, he's very articulate when he's on this, when he on his stream, and people really pay attention. Hey, he making a difference, bro. He making a difference. I think it's going to be hard, though, to continue to let guys, everybody have a voice like this.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Well, you have to understand also, Uncle Joe, certain players can have a voice. You got to be that boy to be able to do what Jaylen Brown is doing. You can't just be anybody and not showing up on the court on Sunday, Monday, or whatever you play and then have something to say on a goddamn podcast. Honestly, you really don't have nothing to talk about. And because Jaylen Brown is so good and the fact that he has a voice and they can't control the narrative, they don't like that. You know what? We don't like this. We have a player that is really good, that get paid a lot of money, and we can't control him. We can't control him. So it's not a safe space for them. That makes them uncomfortable. The Boston Celtics. That's why they're choosing JT instead of jb, because he's the safe. He's safer. We're much more comfortable having him on our team as opposed to JT Jaylen Brown, because you can't control him. He doesn't play by the game. He don't play by the rules.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even if I believe. Even if they were. Even if jb color between the lines. And I'm not saying that's. He's egregious. He doesn't broke it. He hasn't broken any laws. He's a very thoughtful brother. They're not gonna pay two guys three, $400 million on the same team. Yeah, they're just not.

[Guest Analyst]

You just don't expect for them to give them away for peanuts, though.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, but hold on. And also, if you're not gonna pay. If you're not gonna pay. Doo doo, two dudes, $300. 300. 300 million, right?

[Guest Analyst]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Now is not the time to break it up now. Not now. You don't do it now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you notice. Think about this. And you said this, Joe, about the podcast. The more he talked, the more intent Boston was getting up off him. Think about it. The last month, you started hearing more and more and more and more. Before, it was little whispers, you know, Jaylen Brown might be. But as he talked more and more, more and more started coming out on the other side, didn't it? Yeah, that was. They were trying to send him a message, but he didn't receive it. Oh, he.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

He's very intelligent.

[Guest Analyst]

He just didn't give a damn. Well,

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

in order to do this, if you're going to do this, like Muhammad Ali, say Muhammad. And I think I sent it to you, Joe, when Muhammad Ali was talking about, hey, yeah, I can make a couple of million dollars to keep my mouth shut like somebody else, but there are a million more people. He said, it ain't just about making money. It's about using my influence. Yes.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

For those that don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you have to. But you have to be willing to say you Know what? I already know what comes along.

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, you gotta take the bullet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a great chance that I'm not gonna get the advertising and marketing dollars that somewhat. Even in a lesser situation.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not as good as I am. Will get. You have to be okay with that. You have to be okay with. Say, you know what? Yeah. Yeah.

[Jaylen Brown]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You one of them Cry Freedom brothers. You can't. We can't bring you to the Olympics. We not finna make you. We not finna let you do 1968 over us.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

What you call him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cry Freedom Joe, Listen, I'm telling you how they're thinking.

[Jaylen Brown]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not gonna let. They don't want. First of all, what do you always hear them say? Don't use that platform. Don't use that platform. Because you got a megahorn.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is when you got. When you're a professional athlete. Do you. And they know. So does the individual. So when you use that platform, it's like, nah, nah, nah, Hell nah.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

And. And. And, Joe, it's really. It's not just the platform. Right. Because every athlete has a platform, but which athletes are using said platform or

[Guest Analyst]

it's how you using it. What you saying on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you got the NBA platform, you got that NFL platform.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a whole different level of platform.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hold on. But it also. It also depends on who's doing the talking, because a lot of people say something and they go on one ear and out the other. But a Jalen Brown saying something. Oh, you getting the attention of everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes. And that's what you remember. You remember when they. When people started taking the knee? They. Like, we could do. You can do that. What do they. When people sing in the national anthem, what do they got? What do they got the camera doing? They pan it down, see who got there. Because then it started. Let's see who's kneeling. Let's see who has their hand over their heart. Let's see who have their helmet to the side. So now it went away. Ain't nobody thinking about the national anthem. I'm trying to see who kneeling. Oh, they go, ocho. Kneeling. Okay. TJ Kneeling. Ah, man. Okay. But you gotta realize this started when. When. When Mark moved off.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah. When he was in Denver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was in Denver.

[Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, hey, boy, it changed. His career was never the same, and he was phenomenal.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Wait, what happened? What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. Hey, you talking about Kyrie with handles and. Get off that shot, boy. Y' all better go pull up some YouTube footage.

[Guest Analyst]

LSU SEC baby.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I thought. I thought he. I thought he got hur.

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, he playing. Hey, hold up, hold up. Oo y' all know when I first joined the big three in 2019.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was playing the big three.

[Guest Analyst]

Still giving guys work. 50, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yeah, yeah, he had the great beard

[Shannon Sharpe]

and all that joke, man, that Joe. Quicker than a cat on the mar table, Joe. Hey, everything you see, Kyrie, I'm talking about that. That T T, T, T, T T. And get a shot off. Go back and watch him how he gave that work to the Bulls. Go back and watch some of his clips. He was phenomenal.

[Guest Analyst]

One of the best scorers ever come through the sec bro at lsu. No lie. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How in hell him and Shaq didn't do. We'd do more than Stanley. Big Stanley, man, you know, when you

[Guest Analyst]

young like that unggie, you need some polishing. They ain't had no season. They were too bland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the anonymous sources. And I get what Jalen's saying, but he doesn't know the kind of trouble the world would be in without anonymous sources. Because you found out that nicotine was addictive through an anonymous source. You found out about Watergate through an anonymous source. You found out about the Iran Contra through anonymous source. You found out about the Tuskegee study, what they were doing to those black men, injecting them and giving them placebos and seeing the fact that syphilis calls don't them through an anonymous source. You. So you got to be careful because you can't pick and choose. I want this anonymous source, but I don't want that anonymous source. So you have to be careful. And I know a lot of times anonymous sources, they're not really saying anything positive because I can assure you, if it was an anonymous source and they say JB is one of the top five players, do you think he'd have a problem with that, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

No, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see? So you have to be careful. And Jaylen is smart enough to know, with his extensive studies, he knows anonymous sources have a place. That's the system of checks and balances that you have to have. Because somebody, when people go left, somebody have to be willing to go right and get out bits and pieces of information. So you have to be really, really careful with saying anonymous source. Anonymous source. And the funny thing about it, Ocho, what do we say? Because I know you don't like anonymous sources either. Go ahead.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I mean, I don't like anonymous sources. I would love for people to say things and say it with your chest and say it like you mean it most of the time. But anytime there's an anonymous source, there's always, it's always true to it. Every story comes from somewhere. And that. The whole point is they want to be. They want to remain anonymous because if they, if those that say it, the Stephen, aids and, and the people that are analysing the pundits, if they tell who the source is, then they'll never be able to get information again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

That's how they get it out. They get it out to those talking heads that are on tv so it can be said. That's how you start the trigger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they can't say it. Yes, they can't say it.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

There's always true to it every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. But don't get mad at source. Get back. Because it's hard for me to imagine that somebody. And look, he's a very intelligent brother. And just because, and just because he's well educated, he's well informed, he's well versed. I mean, what am I supposed to do? I'm supposed to dumb myself down to make you feel better about yourself? I'm who I am. I did. And we have a way of doing that sometimes. Ocho and Joe, we know this. Sometimes we would do less than what we should because we don't want to make somebody else feel bad about what we worked out. Absolutely. I've done it, man. I can't get this, man. They're gonna thank me. They don't. They gonna think I'm trying to show. I'm trying to show somebody up. I'm devaluing myself. What my hard earned work is done. So no, Jaylen Brown should never dumb down himself, dumb down his opinions to make somebody else feel good about themselves because that's what they're mad about, because they feel inferior. How you mean to tell me he know more than me? Maybe on certain things he does. And that irks some people because they, you know, they got a perception of how you. What you should say, what you should sound like. Because it used to be cold. Boy, you're. You, you're. You're really articulate. What that mean? Have you ever heard one of them say that to another one of them? No, that's what they reserved for us. Articulate. Okay, sure, we'll take that. Stop. But it's a situation where I think the way it transpired, because of who he is, the success that what he's had, his name has come up every single year, especially over the last Four to five, three to four years, extensively in the off season. And when it looks like somebody like, hey, you can have Jaylen Brown in the pit. You can have Jaylen Brown, blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. And he's like, well, damn, what do I gotta do to take my. To take my pot off the stove? Cause it seemed like my pot is always on the stove and it's always boiling. Why me? Why can't I get ojo? Why can't I get to the side and be cooling?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I. I know. I know how to get your pot off the stove.

[Guest Analyst]

How's that?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

You gotta. You got. You gotta play their game.

[Guest Analyst]

Well, that's the game.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Play their game. Hey, shut up and dribble. They'll put. They'll take it. They'll take.

[Guest Analyst]

Now, he ain't willing to do that, Ojo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he ain't gonna do that.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

And I'm glad he's not. I'm glad he's not. I'm glad that he's choosing not to conform to the way they think he should be. I want to continue to be authentically who Jaylen Brown is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be who you are. Always understand what comes with that.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to be willing to accept the consequences that comes along with that. And I've been, look, I love jb, but I understand how this thing works. It ain't no tiptoeing. I'm for anonymous source sources. I'm for anonymous sources, good, bad or indifferent, because they serve their place in society. Nobody has ever been upset with an anonymous source when they say you was about to get $200 million or you're one of the best five players in the league. Nobody's ever said that. Or when they say anonymous sources said, you know, this is the next five people going into the Basketball hall of Fame or the Pro Football hall of Fame. Nobody says, I wish these anonymous sources. Who are these anonymous sources? Nobody says that. Stop cherry picking. We've all had anonymous sources say things.

[Guest Analyst]

I have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anonymous sources say the Broncos are not going to be willing to shine Shannon Sharp due to his age and his injury history. Hell, I know where it came from. What am I going to do? But they weren't the only team. Last I checked, they print a lot of money.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Marcos wasn't the only one that had it.

[Guest Analyst]

Hello.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to understand, see, people like get Ma. If you actions have consequences, I tell you what, go on your job and constantly complain about your boss, your job and give you the respect and let's see how long you work there. Y' all make it seem like, oh, I could do whatever you. You don't. You don't. You don't talk to your boss any kind of way. You don't. No, let me. Let me take that back. You don't talk to your boss any kind of way. If you have a job and you're not your boss. Now, if you. Your boss, hell, you can talk to yourself any kind of damn way, but you're not gonna go on these people job. There's a certain level, and I don't think JB did that. I don't. I disagree. Hold on. Let's go to the next one here. JB said the world doesn't like how authentic he is. Go ahead, take a. Take a listen to that.

[Jaylen Brown]

You know what I mean? And I think the world right now, you know, obviously you could use me as an example. Is not comfortable with the level of authenticity that someone may bring. And I wasn't comfortable myself when I first started, like, listening. I'm not a streamer bro. Like, I stream. But this. This wasn't me. This was never me. People in Boston, I don't even like talking to people in general, let alone talking to 27,000 people. So I started doing this because, you know, the industry, the narratives, and everything that people try to make up, and you see them now coming out and getting exposed. But I did this as a way to, like, storytell, tell your own stories and show up and let people know who you are and what you got going on.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I love that, huh? Yes, I love it. Cutting the middleman out, Joe. Yes, cut the middleman out. You linear television, media, talking pundits, analysts, you're not gonna be able to control the narrative on how the public and the masses are going to perceive me. I get to control it now. So no matter what you say and if I don't agree with it now I have my own platform and my own voice. Voice and my own audience to debunk whatever it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before you go any further, I want you to. I want you to stop, rewind seven seconds, and then press plus press play. We stop, rewind seven seconds. You said I have my own media platform. Yes, I have my own.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Say yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now ESPN has a platform. They got 25 people. So who you think is going to win? Even if. Think about it. That's how news organizations work.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Oh, I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pump out information, even though you guess and who you think the people gonna believe? How many people you think go believe what he Says versus what? Now, I know they're going to be people that, like, look like us, but the masses, who you think they gonna believe? When people turn on Fox News, who you think they believe?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

But I got a question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

For those that enjoy the game of basketball, that. For those that actually watch, this is far and few. We never see someone like this be able to go at the machine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Going at the machine. So I'm telling you, I'm telling you, okay, this is what the machine says.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Well, you know what? You hear it from the horse's mouth. It ain't true.

[Guest Analyst]

And to be able to go at the machine, Uncle Ocho, you gotta be doing your damn thing. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Guest Analyst]

Because I'm saying it's a lot of cats out here who gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who all will have a voice, but,

[Guest Analyst]

man, if you ain't out here, JB averaging 29 a game, bro. Hell, I'm averaging 29 a game, third in MVP voting, and my name's still in all these damn conversations. And getting traded. Something ain't right, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Finals mvp. Come on, man.

[Guest Analyst]

Come on. Make it make sense for me. So maybe it is something that Boston just didn't want to deal with, bro. You know, because when you think about what they gave up for him. Yeah. When I talk about a swap, yeah, he's averaging 29. PG's averaging 17. But, bro, the headache that they feel like that they gonna have to deal with, they don't want to deal with that. That's it. They don't want to deal with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uncle Ocho, I'm a prime example. I left fox. They said one thing. I didn't say anything. People believed it. Even if I came out and said, this is what happened, X, Y and Z, people are gonna believe. There gotta be some truth to it somewhere, right? Same thing with cbs. Everybody said, well, he got let go because of this. No, I talked to them. They like Shannon. We just don't think two tight ends on the set of we work, okay, but everybody tried to make it something else. Okay, fine. What I've learned is that people are going to believe what they want to believe, and there ain't no change in their mind. Are you looking at what's going on in today's. People say we lost money with the Trump coin. People say. And they blaming Democrats because they ain't buy the coin and they shorted it. So people gonna believe what they want to believe. So why am I going to waste my time now? Maybe if you. There are things you want to get off your chest. I could have said a lot. There are. There are only a handful of people that really, really know the truth about what transpired at Fox and what transpired at cbs. And none of this is what they put out.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what? Hey, clean my thing out. Said, hey, all the wardrobe. Autumn, the Tracy, peace out jumpsuit. Brett. Hey, Brina, peace out all. Everybody heard my girl scent. Eddie. Hey, just you. You move on. You can't when people want to. So that's the. That's what I hate. Everything. You never heard anything when Shannon Sharp was at Fox? It wasn't until I left. Then all of a sudden, this start leaking out. You never heard none of this about JB when he was there? Nobody said they used the term, you know, thought he was the smartest guy in the room. But what that mean? They thought he was uppity. You know, he thought. You know, he thought he. Yeah, uppity. One of them. You didn't hear that? You didn't hear nothing about his team.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His teammates couldn't tell him nothing. Seemed like to me, he got along with everybody. That's just me. I'm not in the locker room. But why didn't we hear some of this about him not getting along with teammates before they traded him? Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

What I say, why would you hear about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was the smartest guy in the room before you knew he had outside interests. Listen, everybody. It's okay if he has other things, but it's hard for me to believe that he didn't give you everything that he could while he was on the clock.

[Guest Analyst]

Facts. Facts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Joe. And what did I say was gonna come out after he got traded last night on the show? Watch all the teammates. Hey. Like they did with Miles Garrett, all of a sudden, stuff is coming out. Yeah, I knew. I knew it was gonna happen. I knew it was gonna happen.

[Guest Analyst]

That's wild, bro. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's what I don't get, man. I said, look, we could. Joe. When we talked, Ocho, we talked about this. We've all been in relationships to end. Nobody heard me say nothing bad about any of my exes. Cause I didn't say that when I widowed. They didn't say that when they were.

[Guest Analyst]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now all of a sudden, we go our separate ways, and you got all this bad stuff to say. I get it. Sometimes people, when emotion is high, logic is really, really low. You want to make me look bad. I left because of this. I left because of that. Well, you should have Left a lot earlier. If I've been doing this the whole time, why the hell you stay 10 years? Why the hell you stay 7 years? If I was such a. If I was such an asshole, right? If I was a jerk, didn't do anything, didn't take any vacations. Now all of a sudden you leave. Oh, I just. That's how I am, everybody. And my mistake again, thinking how I am. That's how other people. That's your biggest mistake. That's the biggest mistake.

[Guest Analyst]

Especially when you live and learn. That's your biggest mistake. Especially when you a giver, bro. When you're a giver and they know you're a giver, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Like, hey, hey, I learned my lesson.

[Guest Analyst]

We all have. Oh, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I learned my lesson. Uncle Joe, I learned my lesson. And people start. They take advantage of you. They. They take advantage of you. But you can cut that off quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got to put limits on what you give because takers will never put limits on what they take.

[Guest Analyst]

Man, I'm talking about. Boy, you said a mouthful there, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, you can't. And you joke. Hey, you win some, you lose some, you move on.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I don't. Look, you want to trade, it's your right to do this. But I don't think any fans gonna stop coming to the game. Like when players request a trade. Oh, you ain't no loyal. The teams owners have convinced their fan base that loyalty is a one way street. And it's okay. We're the only ones that need to be loyal. Excuse me. The players need to be loyal. We don't need to be. So if a player asks for a trade, you see.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

And fans gobble it up every, every time, every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How? I'm trying to figure out how can a billionaire convinced an average fan that the millionaires are more selfish than them. And they bought it. They bought it and they're still buying it. I just. Man, J. Like I said, as a matter of fact, y' all know what happened. Was it last year? Yeah, last year around the 4th, I went to this place, got some barbecue. Big old dude, man, bald head. Yeah, man, kept looking at me. I like, what? And I was like, you know, I'm like chilling, you know, I'm like, you know, I. I feel him. Look, I look at, you know, we make eye contact because if I. And that's why I kind of. If I'm in the airport, I don't really make eye contact. I have my headphones on. I'm trying to get from 48 to point B. Me and Jordan, we in a hurt. But he kept looking at me. And after a while, he came. He came and, like, you know who I am? I'm like, nah. Should I know? He said, I'm Jaylen Brown's dad. I said, oh, okay. What's up, man? How you doing? He's. He was like, man, they be talking crazy about my son. I said, what you mean? He's like, man, they be. They be. You know, he's always in trade discussion. They always saying X, Y, and Z, and he's nothing like that. I didn't know, because I didn't.

[Guest Analyst]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've never heard Jaylen. Obviously, we know he has a dad, but I didn't. I've never heard him mention or say anything about it, so I didn't know if he was telling the truth or not. But then when I look at him, I'm like, yeah, you. You Jaylen Brown, Daddy. You close respect or you something. You his brother or uncle or something? Cause y' all damn don't look alike. He just got a. He got a beard. He got a bald head, but. And I think Jalen got low hair now.

[Guest Analyst]

But, yeah, God cut his hair. Yeah. God cut it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oj.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

but no, it's. I just. This is. And now. And we've. I've seen. You know, they used to call them a locker room lawyers. They do all they can to get them up out of there. The. And the thing of. What's so hard about. They can't do this because he's such a great player.

[Guest Analyst]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If he was a. If he was speaking like this, and he was. And he was averaging 50, that's what

[Guest Analyst]

helps him know, Unc. The fact that he is such a Great player, top 10 player in this league right now. That helps him more than anything. Hey, hey, listen. For me, I look forward to him going to Philly, bro, and putting that ball out. Yeah. Not only balling the hell out, but putting that battery pack in Joel Embiid, bro. I feel like you gotta respect somebody like that. Uncle Ocho, he come to your team, jb. Come to your team. You see how hard he works? Obviously, he speaks what's on his mind, bro. You got to respect that, man. You're gonna have to get to work.

[Jaylen Brown]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

A lot gonna be expected. Hey, listen. And don't let. I ain't gonna even say it. I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna even see it.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, go. Hey, Joe. Hey, don't. Don't hide it, Joe. Let us know what you think Of

[Guest Analyst]

Joe, they may not be done. Damn it. Hey, hey. If I'm a free agent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo, you try to. So you try to talk about the king. You try to talk about the game.

[Guest Analyst]

I'm just saying, Uncle Ocho, y' all got. When you look around the league, especially Eastern Conference, bro, there are a few teams that. You add that man to it, boy, they gonna be a top three team in the Eastern Conference for sure.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, hey, listen to me. Listen to me now, Joe.

[Guest Analyst]

Now listen, Ocho, I said it's a few teams. I ain't take y' all out. I'm just keeping it 100.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just saying.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

I'm just saying. You got Jalen Brawl, you got Jalen Brown on the ball. You got Tyrese Maxwell on the ball. You got God damn Embiid down that clog under the paint. LeBron ain't going there, man. Just, just, just cut that. I thought your ball. Now, your ball knowledge is supposed to be on par. It's not on par with me right now.

[Guest Analyst]

All right, all right.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, LeBron gets to dictate and control the pace of games. Having the ball in his hands at Miami, and it's a better situation no matter what, sending them out to the west and sending him out there. You don't want to be 42 year olds. 42 years old playing against anybody in the goddamn West. I want to see them boys in the finals.

[Guest Analyst]

I told you. Listen, it's a few teams in the Eastern Conference. That looks very enticing if I'm. If.

[Jaylen Brown]

Name.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Name one name. Name another one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe. Outside of Philly.

[Guest Analyst]

Outside of the Heat. Yeah, outside of the Cavs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean, it's a few teams?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

The cab.

[Jaylen Brown]

He.

[Guest Analyst]

That's a crib, Ocho. That's a crib.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

He not going back there again. Now. He ain't finna double date. I already bless y' all on the go back. I ain't gonna bless you for a third time. Come on, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what? What's amazing, guys? I thought. I thought ever since we booked that trend of just dumb jocks, I thought they would like that the NBA and fans and people would love. Oh, because we built. For the longest time, we were just.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we educated now.

[Guest Analyst]

We could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, we. We have ideas. We. We run businesses and you know, we gotta do all that stuff now.

[Guest Analyst]

Now, you know why it's a problem? Because, hey, it could. It cut all the BS out. You know what I mean? It cut all the BS out, bro. Yeah, we can Speak for our damn self, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, they don't like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Hell, no, they don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Hey, we can't. Oh, Lord, now they got a voice. Oh, Lord, now they got opinion. Oh, now we can.

[Guest Analyst]

On top of all that, he got all this damn talent. Damn. What we gonna do now?

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

We can't control him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because what they do is they say, we gonna give you X. Give you a house in a gated community.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give you as many cars as you like. And so maybe you would turn a blind eye to what's going on. Because you said, now you talking.

[Guest Analyst]

Now he talking. Now he talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't what they do. No, it. Look, the Lord has blessed me 50 times more than what he should. Fifty, okay. A thousand times. My life shouldn't be this good. I should not have been able to go to places. Coming from where I came from, I shouldn't have been able to go to places, do achieve what I've been able to achieve. He put two of us. He put two guys with no running water, indoor plumbing in the Same house in three. In a thousand square foot. 3,500 people. He said, both of y' all go into the league.

[Guest Analyst]

Damn. Clock that, man. Clock it, huh? Yeah, clock that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't, man. I can't sit back there and not do anything and not say anything when I see you do it. Wrong is wrong. Right is right.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And everybody ain't gonna agree. Cause I remember time. Look, there was a. When the Colin Kaepernick. We talked about it. When no one else would touch it. Chat. Y' all know if you watch Undisputed, we started the first, basically the first six months of the year. We had at least at bare minimum, two topics on Colin Kaepernick. There were shows in a 10 segment show in two and a half hours. Six to seven of the segments was about cap. Welcome to on the Field.

[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Guest Analyst]

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[Uncle Ocho (Joe)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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