Nightcap Hour 2: Kawhi Leonard ALLEGEDLY Had Deal With Daktronics + Jaylen Brown UNFILTERED in Sixers PRESSER + Joel Embiid Looks SLIM + Wizards & AD Put HALT on Contract Talks + Nightcap BIG3 Preview + TI’s Son CAN’T DRIVE

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2 – August 7, 2026

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad Johnson (w/ ISO Joe Johnson)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers unfiltered, in-the-moment reactions to breaking stories across the NBA and NFL. Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson dissect major news, from explosive allegations about Kawhi Leonard and salary cap circumvention, to Jaylen Brown’s candid press conference, to Big3 league narratives. The energy is lively and direct, laced with humor and storytelling that makes the conversation as entertaining as it is insightful.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. Kawhi Leonard–Daktronics Allegation & NBA Salary Cap Loopholes

• [02:21] Chad Ochocinco introduces the Pablo Torre report that alleges Kawhi Leonard had an undisclosed multi-million dollar deal with Daktronics (maker of the Intuit Dome Halo board), reportedly to circumvent the NBA salary cap.
• Ochocinco: “According to Pablo Torre, Kawhi Leonard allegedly had an undisclosed multi-million dollar deal with Daktronics ... Clipper officials openly discussed this as a way to bypass the salary cap. Money was funneled to Kawhi through Daktronics.” [02:21]
• The team discusses league reactions and the possible repercussions if true.
  • Ochocinco: “If this can be proven ... Adam Silver is going to hammer. He has no choice.”
  • Joe Johnson: “They gonna punish Kawhi and the Clippers. I’m talking about draft picks. It's gonna be bad, man.” [05:16]
  • They recall past NBA scandals (e.g., Timberwolves/Joe Smith, [11:00]) and speculate on actual penalties, noting a likely fine ceiling and history of lost draft picks.

Notable Quotes

• “The more people that know something, the greater the chance it’s going to get out.” – Ochocinco [11:17]
• “Somebody been coughing up these documents? Yeah, somebody been coughing up these documents.” – Ochocinco [12:11]

Memorable Moment

• Discussion of how secrets leak in the NBA, poking fun at old-school ways (“Three people can keep a secret, but two or three gotta be dead.” – Ochocinco [11:15])

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2. Jaylen Brown’s Unfiltered Sixers Presser & NBA Teammate Dynamics

• [18:52] Jaylen Brown, in his intro presser with the 76ers, talks openly about his lack of communication with Jayson Tatum after their championship run.
  • “On my end, it’s nothing but respect ... besides when he plays the Sixers, I hope he does well.” – Jaylen Brown [19:29]
  • Brown admits: “Not really” when asked if he and Tatum have talked [19:49]
• The panel discusses professional relationships among NBA stars – sometimes close, often just business.
  • Joe Johnson: “It’s okay that they don’t hang out outside. This is our profession, bro, this is what we signed up for. This is part of it.” [20:26]
• The hosts reflect on differences in lives, priorities, and how these affect chemistry.
• [21:44] Sharp analogy: “You go to work. You with a job to do. It’s the same thing with sports ... not gonna get along with everybody.” – ISO Joe [21:44]

Notable Quotes

• “No matter what JB did, there were very few people that thought he was a better player than JT ... Even after he won Finals MVP.” – Ochocinco [23:19]
• “They haven’t really talked ... this is part of the journey, bro.” – Joe Johnson [20:26]

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3. Slimmer Joel Embiid & Sixers’ Title Hopes

• [32:31] A “noticeably slimmer” Joel Embiid is the talk of the NBA. The group debates if his new shape, plus Philly’s new core (Braun, Maxey, Brown), can yield a championship.
  • “If Embiid can stay healthy, stay in this kind of shape, can they win the title?” – Ochocinco
  • “Hell yeah, they can win ... if this man right here, he look good. He look like he in great shape.” – Joe Johnson [33:04]
• Cautious optimism, but Joe wants to see Embiid move: “I got to see his gallop ... like a picture telling me one thing, but I got to see movement.” [35:55]
• Lighthearted betting talk: “I’m gonna send you about 50k, man. I need you to go put it down on Philly.” – Joe Johnson [33:49]

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4. Wizards & Anthony Davis Contract Talks on Pause

• [37:08] Anthony Davis and the Washington Wizards are delaying extension talks until after a 20-game sample next season; extension could be $275M over four years.
  • “Do you believe 20 games is enough to see if AD is worth 275 over four years?” – Ochocinco
  • Joe Johnson: “It gives me a nice little sample size, and it keeps them firing the AD ... In them 20 games, I don’t need you taking no games off.” [37:36]
  • ISO Joe: “Based on his injury history ... he’s earned that ... but most of the time, you know, get your money, Young Bull.” [38:15]

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5. BIG3 League Preview & Banter

• [39:21] Ahead of Big3 season 9’s playoff push, the guys break down the top teams and MVP frontrunners.
  • Miami 305 (Lance Stevenson, Beasley) are dangerous: “That two-headed monster ... they can’t waste no more games.” – Joe Johnson [39:54]
  • Montrezl Harrell’s historic scoring: “That’s Trez team, right? ... averaging almost 37 points a game. He gonna win the MVP.” – Ochocinco [40:40]
  • Fun rivalry talk: Ochocinco jokes about joining the Big3 – “I’m gonna put on a mean demonstration.” [42:48]
  • “I want to act like D. Wade—hit the game winner, jump on the scoreboard.” – ISO Joe [43:54]

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6. TI’s Son Major – First Drive Fails

• [45:26] The hosts crack up over viral clips of TI’s son Major’s first adventure behind the wheel.
  • “He passed the driver ... god damn.” – Ochocinco [46:32]
  • Lighthearted reflection on “nervous” first drive experiences, parenting, and being in the passenger seat: “You ain’t gonna say nothin’? ... I didn’t want him to panic.” – Ochocinco [50:03]

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7. Q&A and Audience Banter

• [53:48] Wide-ranging Q&A with the Nightcap crew:
  • On domesticating wild animals: Recalling famous “Harlem tiger” news [54:23]
  • On Hall of Fame legacies:
    • “No. Steve, yes. Me, no ... I like my own jacket. It fits me.” – ISO Joe (on being in the HOF) [64:09]
  • On NFL running back value: “If you’re elite, you can’t devalue those type of backs ... they are too valuable.” – ISO Joe [63:15]
  • On Reggie White’s dominance: “You got to realize ... Reggie was hell ... add 20 pounds and four inches to Aaron Donald.” – Ochocinco [67:53–68:20]
  • On Steve Smith: “Pound for pound, I’ll take Steve Smith over anybody.” – Ochocinco [71:08]

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• “Three people can keep a secret, but two or three gotta be dead.” – Chad Ochocinco on leaks in NBA circles [11:17]
• “He don’t show up when you want him, but he always on time every time. Hello.” – ISO Joe, playing on grandma’s wisdom (about the leak and NBA justice) [08:45]
• “They just get along when they're going against the players.” – Ochocinco on NBA owners and possible collusion [09:32]
• “You go to work ... you ain’t friends with everybody at your own job.” – ISO Joe comparing NBA teammate relationships to everyday workplaces [21:44]
• “Stay out of people’s way and just go to old gracefully. That’s all he is to do, man.” – Ochocinco on embracing aging [58:09]
• “I don’t want it to be Black Mamba—we got Black Snake. Black Snake mentality.” – Ochocinco’s ode to killer instinct in the Big3 [44:41]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | | ---------------------------------------------------- | ---------- | | Kawhi/Daktronics Allegation | 02:21–15:20| | Jaylen Brown Sixers Presser & Tatum Dynamic | 18:52–28:15| | Slim Joel Embiid & Philly Title Talk | 32:31–36:28| | Wizards & AD Contract Extension Debate | 37:08–39:21| | BIG3 Playoff Preview & Ochocinco’s Hoop Dreams | 39:21–44:41| | TI’s Son’s Driving Debacle | 45:26–50:18| | Q&A: Harlem Tiger, Running Backs, HOF, Reggie White | 53:48–71:08| | Steve Smith, TO, NFL Greatness | 70:26–71:50|

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Episode Tone & Style

The banter is fast, spirited, and often sharply funny—full of inside jokes and authenticity. The hosts favor open speculation, hard truths, and personal perspective, never shying away from tough subjects or keeping it overly professional. Their comparisons to regular jobs, throwbacks to old league stories, and teasing among friends make it accessible to both athletes and everyday fans.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a masterclass in direct sports talk—blending real-time analysis of breaking scandals (Kawhi & Clippers), inside-the-locker-room perspective on player relationships (Jaylen Brown/Jayson Tatum), and entertaining detours (TI’s son, Big3 trash talk). The Nightcap crew mixes hard-hitting perspectives with plenty of self-deprecating humor and storytelling. If you care about power moves in the NBA or just want to hear legends chop it up with zero filter, this is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow. According to Pablo Torre, Kawhi Leonard allegedly allegedly had an undisclosed Multi million dollar deal with Daktronics, the company that built the Intuit Dome Halo board. Clipper officials openly discussed this as a way to bypass the salary cap. Money was funneled to Kawhi through Daktronics.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If

[Chad Ochocinco]

I F is the biggest word in the English language. I capital I capital F, asterisk. If this can be proven, if this is true, these allegations, Adam Silver is going to hammer. He has no choice. The Clippers. He has no choice and he's going to have to. He's going to have to punish Kawhi. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Wait, hold on. It wasn't. It wasn't Kawhi idea to try to find a way to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely. Because if we are to believe what was reported originally is that his uncle Dennis went to Toronto and tried to get things that would have been illegal which would have get a salary cap violation. When he went and talked to the Lakers, allegedly what was reported is that he tried to get things. A source in Torres report claimed that Leonard served as the official spokesman of a company that a deal openly joked about being 1000% way to circumvent the salary cap.

[Joe Johnson]

Now listen, so the Clippers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The Clippers. Get. No, get. No, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Clippers gonna. The Clipper, if this is true,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

the

[Chad Ochocinco]

NBA don't want it to be true. But let me tell you who does want it to be true. The other 29.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They can make it go away because

[Chad Ochocinco]

the other 29 owners say we could have done this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. There's repercussions.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Go ahead. So what. What do you. What do you. What do. What do you. What do you think the punishment should be? Joe, if this is proven, if they. If there is. If there's. Right now, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but if they were to find a smoking gun, what do you think the punishment should be for the Clippers and what should the punishment be for Kawhi?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I'm not sure what the punishment should be, Uncle Ocho, but it's going to be egregious because when this first came about, man, y' all remember me? I was like, man, you know, I hate to say it, but I kind of think it's some truth to this, you know, because I felt like that probably could have been a deal breaker of him not going to LA and coming Clippers. You feel what I'm saying? So obviously I hate that. It's kind of, you know, came to this point, this came to the forefront and we, we really don't really Know if it's really true. But yeah, man, they gonna punish. They gonna punish Kawhi and the Clippers. I'm talking about draft picks. Oh, they gonna. It's gonna be bad, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When you. When you. Listen, can I. I got a question too, Joe. Now, when you say it's gonna be bad when it comes to punishing someone like Kawhi that has played a very. What kind of punishment do you think? Are we talking about suspension or just taking.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, suspension.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But for the whole season or just a few?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna say the whole season. It's gonna hit him. Yeah, it's gonna. It's gonna be some M's that he gonna miss behind this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, so about 20 games. That's enough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think the thing is that when you look at it, we heard rumblings and everybody said, well, when they. When this were. This.

[Joe Johnson]

This is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Was talked about when he signed with the Clippers, and everybody said, it's sour grapes because you didn't get an opportunity to sign him. It was reported. Toronto said, no, we can't do this. This circumvented salary cap would get in trouble. It was reported that Jeannie Buss said, we can't do this. We can't give you a condo. We can't give you this. We can't do that. That's what was reported at the time. Everybody said it was because. Everybody's saying this now because he signed with the Clippers. One organization is the Lakers. The other organization, you just won a championship with, and you go to an organization that's been doormat dormant for years and years and years, and people couldn't. Understood. Couldn't. Couldn't understand why money's comparable. Give people a choice. So they was like, that's why people had a hard time believing it. I don't know. I think they're doing their due diligence. They don't want to jump the gun. They don't want to overreact.

[Joe Johnson]

But,

[Chad Ochocinco]

man, when you worth $170 billion, Ocho. Hey, I mean, and the money. Let's just say it was $30 million. Let's just say it was the extra 15 to $30 million he was getting. Man, you think that man missing that?

[Joe Johnson]

No. Oh, no, no. He ain't missing that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That ain't a percent. That ain't 1% of his net worth. And it, bro. Because he gave the Clippers hope. That was the first time the people that really started thinking that the Clippers really had a chance now, they. They thought like when they had Blake, Griffin and Chr. They had a nice little team there, but for the most part, until Kawhi. Kawhi gave them hope.

[Joe Johnson]

Bomber said he gonna debo the pot. Hell, I'm a debo the pot. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta think about how he get the team. He paid five. Basically four or five times more than anybody had ever paid for an NBA franchise. That's how bad he wanted it. So how much was. How much do you believe he would be willing to pay to get a superstar of that magnitude?

[Joe Johnson]

20p 25ps? Yeah, they ain't. They ain't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nathaniel, it ain't nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

N. No, we create a little. Yeah, I mean, a little funnel through there like that. That there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Somebody fun of me. A little something. Something little, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that what I'm saying.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, don't. Hey, hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That man up there, I let him cooking.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Un.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let him cook, man. Yeah. I'll tell you one thing my grandma always told me. Now.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He don't show up when you want him. But he always.

[Joe Johnson]

He always on time every time. Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Every time. It's coming, okay? It's coming. Hey, I'm. I'm. I'm trying to think, you know. Hey, they might make this go away too now. Huh? You heard me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, the powers that be, Joe, the powers that. The power that be that run the show can make this go away.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

you think so?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What? Come on now.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. Oo. I think all these other owners, bro, they gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the thing.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna get involved. They gonna. They gonna take a deep dive into this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. All the owners don't get along?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Not when you cheating.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, no, they don't get along. They just get along when they're going against the players. No, I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I just don't know because I'm. I ain't admitting to nothing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't give a damn. You got. I don't care if you got my dad. I'm not admitting to that. Well, I mean, what about. I mean, Barbara's like, will you give me the death sentence? You give me the death penalty, you gonna take all my draft picks? Well, first of all, you ain't got no draft picks anytime, anytime soon anyway. But then you gonna hammer with a five, probably 50 mil.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. What? I don't think they can't punish him like that. What's the most they can find I think the most they can find is probably $2 million.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, it gonna be like. It's gonna be like you going out there giving the homeless man 50 Cent Hell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

True.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There has to be a limit. Can you look up right quick what's. What would be the penalty? What's the most they can find an owner? He's not going to admit to that. Why not admit to it? 3.5 was what they find the Timberwolves. But they took like three, four first round draft picks from the Timberwolves. That's what killed the Timberwolves.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You can't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But they did wrong.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They had a. They had a handshake deal under the table deal with Joe Smith.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, how'd it get out?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dude got fired and told the same way it always gets out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, so say man, they'd be three

[Chad Ochocinco]

people can keep a secret, but two or three got to be dead. That's the only way it's gonna work. The more people that know something, the greater the chance it's going to get out. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

See, that's why I say, hey, remember when we talked about the rip and

[Chad Ochocinco]

all I already know Joe and I had already upset what we had to do to you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm just saying that's why I had to get rid of YouTube. Because I'm keeping all the money.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy. Hey, hey. You a day late in the dollar show. I'm gonna put one of your. I'll put one of your domes so quick. Yeah, he out here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look a little quick, like a little hog, you know. We gonna do a little bullet.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I don't want you to suffer. I don't want you to suffer. I want you go take the long one. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like red clothes. See, I hope hey go to sleep and I hope it's the long one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I mean Pablo is a very, he's a very, very good investigative reporter. He. He's done his homework on this. Now, somebody been coughing up these documents? Yeah, somebody been coughing up these documents. I don't know who it is. Oo, but somebody been coughing up some documents.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, you know, whoever's coughing it up, either they don't like Kawhi or they don't like Mr. Balmer or they don't like both of them. Kawhi is so quiet. I don't, I mean he, he, I, I heard him talk maybe what, three, four times.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A whole lot of talking.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So you would, you would think he was someone that's likable. Where they would. They Would kind of, you know. Well, listen, we really never had any problems out of Kawhi. Let's see what we can do to. To get this going. Because he's not a problem child. He's not one that. That is always in the news, always in the media for. For doing wrong, you know, for doing, you know, things wrong. Let's see if we can sweep this one under the rug. But I guess.

[Joe Johnson]

No, man, Kawhi ain't got no Instagram. I mean, Kawhi ain't studying it. Hey, B, they know. They know bma. They know B pockets his pocket long, bro. So they got to check up on him. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So, hey, what you say, Joe? You say he ain't got no Instagrams?

[Joe Johnson]

That man ain't got no ig, bro. He ain't study. Y' all out here. That man out there living his best life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And so you know, this, that. And it seems like he hadn't been signed because the last thing I want to do if I'm Toronto is to sign him, and then he gets suspended.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So I don't think. I don't think that trade gonna. I don't think that trade gonna go through Uncle Ocho, and. And I don't think the Clippers. I don't think they gonna mind having him back, neither. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

That's got to be. That's got to be a. That's got to be a messed up feeling to have.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Can't go where you want to go. I got to go back home.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean. I mean, because think about it. They already traded you already in your head. You know what I'm saying? Now you gotta take all that back. Like, damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause that's what happens, man. That's bad. Look,

[Joe Johnson]

he thought he gonna get up out of there sky free. No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Left you. I hate you. You black. You know what, you mofo? Kiss my. You know what? That's why your mama ain't ish. That's why she all of a sudden. Oh, boy. He go to here. He go back to his old lady, and now she try to come back to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, I'm good. I'm good. So. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can't get back.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

You. You. You was good. You called me a black mofo and told me I was no good for nothing. But the moment you brought my mama into it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about my mama.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I gotta let it go.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Once you talk about mama, I got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I gotta let you go. I cannot. Good car. Just know that you talked about my mama like that. I'll be as sorry as you want me to. You sorry, B. I'll be a hundred of them, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ain't no good mama.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Draw the line at mama on August 21st.

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[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, hold on. Jalen Brown did not hold hold back in the 76ers Introduction Introductory Press conference, speaking openly about his lack of communication with Jason Tatum. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Jalen, how would you describe, characterize your

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relationship with Jason over the last year?

[Joe Johnson]

Jason Tatum, and is that a partnership

[Chad Ochocinco]

you both wanted to continue before the trade?

[Joe Johnson]

You know, we want a championship together,

[Chad Ochocinco]

so anybody that you want a championship, you would think, like, that's what, you

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know, a brotherhood or a lifelong legacy would entail.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Obviously, there's ups and downs in any type of relationship, for sure, but on my end, it's nothing but respect, you know, besides when he plays the Sixers, you know, I hope he does well, you know, but other than that, you know, everything for me is just based in respect. Have you guys been able to talk?

[Joe Johnson]

Not really.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Joe. Joe. That's for you to answer. I don't understand. That's too cryptic for me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen,

[Joe Johnson]

I think they both on two different pages, man, living two different lives, you know, JB ain't got no kids. Uncle Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. JT got key, got two kids, you know, beautiful wife.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wife, girlfriend, something.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They living two totally different lives, bro. You know, and. And it's okay that they don't hang out outside?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

They haven't really talked. Hey, man, this is a part of the journey, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is.

[Joe Johnson]

It hurts sometimes, you know, playing on teams and then you get traded. Obviously you leave behind guys who you've been playing with for eight, seven, nine years, you know what I mean? But at the same time, this our Profession, bro. This is what we signed up for. This is part of it. You know what I mean? I think they make it. We are trying to make a big deal about Jason Tatum and jb, but for me, man, I don't even really feel like there's no huge. I don't feel like there's no big deal. They were two great players to won a title together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And a lot of times, don't, don't, obviously, don't, don't. Don't be hanging out. And that's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm okay with that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Especially in basketball now. Basketball. Cause you guys are together a little bit more than we are, Joe. I mean, y' all on the road all the time, and y' all close knit so forth and so on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, and we can be cordial, but I don't mean we got. I mean, ain't like I'm over the hill, you know? I don't know if Michael and Scottie is coming to find out they were not as together or as close or as mesh as people might have thought.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, Uncle Joe. People got to remember now. You got to remember a lot of people in the chat. You know, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all have jobs. You go to work. And you know what? You ain't friends with everybody at your own job. You know, you. You go in there, you with a job to do. It's the same thing with sports. You're not gonna get along with everybody. If, if you happen to meet someone, you know, and y' all get along outside of your job and decide to hang out, that's cool. But I'm there to do one thing. Bring an NBA championship to Boston. Now, if Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown happen to be friends and become friends outside of the game of basketball and their duties that they're supposed to do for the Celtics, then so be it. But everybody ain't gonna be Buddy, Buddy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just think they're two different things.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's just the nature of the business in general.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I really do. Joe, don't. Joe. I just think they're two different people. I don't really think that. Honestly. Honestly, other than basketball. Tell me what you think they two have in common.

[Joe Johnson]

They probably don't. They probably don't have much in common.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you go to work, hey, Bob, how you doing? I hate your motherfucking ass.

[Joe Johnson]

You do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But asos.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But then the question is. Okay, the communication. What would the communication entail? What did the other expect from the other?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What does that even talk about in general?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm trying to win. Hey, I'm trying to be the best I can be. You try to be the best you can be. Hopefully we can come together and for one shining moment, they won a championship together.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No matter what JB did, there were very few people that thought he was a better player than jt Even after he won Eastern Conference mvp. Even after he won Finals mvp. Even after he took this team, he averaged What? He averaged 28 points a game. Even though he got this team to the number two seed, they got. They let Al Horford go, they let Holiday go. Jayson Tatum was gone except for the last 20 games. In his mind, me, this is. And I'm just. I'm just psychoanalyzing. I'm from the back, right. It was just hard. Like, man, I don't know what I can do for people to see me. First of all, you take two. You take. First of all, it's three guys. I know for a fact, even if you say, I'm not better than jt, I'm better than the other two guys that you put on the Olympic team.

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Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just think they thought that. The question is the question. And I asked you this, Joe, about a month ago, I said, had the roles been reversed? JT goes there, and he's not. He getting DMPs. Does he handle it in the same MANNER in which J.T. handled it?

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't think so, JB? Hold on, hold on, hold on, Uncle Joe. Now, the problem. The problem was not even going, not even being selected, not even being thought of, or having two people that you felt you were better than going there before you. But you think not only if you do get selected, you're gonna have a problem with the dnps.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

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As well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you weren't gonna play me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Look who's in front of him. Look who's in front of him. How you gonna come.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask you a question. When you went to the Pro bowl, you was. Okay. They said, well, look who in front of you. Ocho. You like?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's why I was starting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna say it. But so when he. That's how he looks at it, though. He's like, who? The father's mvp.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, I see. I see you.

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Who.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who did that? Who is the conference mvp? Who did that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, can. Hey, can I ask you something, though? Hey, Uncle Joe, Even. Even with the accolades, even as well, as he played, right? Let's say he was selected, you know, to go play and represent the usa. Please tell me the player that he said that's supposed to sit on the bench for him. I'm just curious who's sitting down?

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, the way you see you thinking logical, but when you're a supreme athlete, you don't think logical.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, even as a supreme athlete, I have to understand who's better than me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In his mind, you don't think none of them better than him.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, come on. Yeah. Cause think about it. Even though you do have Durant and LeBron playing that same position, I mean, you can't find three, four minutes for your boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't get how many. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Three, four minutes. I don't want to touch the flow. Let me run a couple wind sprints. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You done brought me way over, way over here.

[Joe Johnson]

You mean.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tell me you can.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, now. You got me sitting on the bitch like I'm the level 12th man in an NBA game. Hey, hey, Joe. I see how y' all did. How they be sitting. They'd be sitting down there like this here, like, damn, I get it tonight. And the man say, hold on. Wait a damn minute.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like jb, man. I like jb.

[Joe Johnson]

I do, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, he's. He's very controversial without being controversial. It's just the way he conducts himself, the way the. The way he talks. You know, his wording, his sentence structure. Just. He is. He is the smartest one in the room. He is at times. If you listen to him talk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. It's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting. The question is, do you believe JT could have done more to talk to Boston to keep jb?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Uh,

[Joe Johnson]

I don't think so. I. I think they were gonna part ways from him because, one, they didn't want to have to pay him all that damn money. They knew they're gonna have to pay him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pay him, because he was really before.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, at the end of the day, that's what it basically came down to. You know what I mean? But all this rumbling behind it has kind of got stirred up. But at the end of the day, man, they. They got too much money tied up in the two guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but that's what happened when you do a great job of drafting Ocho and Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, hell, and you got a championship.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you know what else, too? Jason Tatum might not. Might not have. Want to stand on the table for him anyway as well. As he played when he was out, maybe. Maybe I'm just. Hey, you know, And I don't think there's anything that JB could have done that could change the way people feel about him. Yeah, nothing.

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He.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He thought after the way he played this year, that would ingratiate him more to the organization, because I think the fans. I think the fans appreciate him and know what he ran, but he thought the way he played this year would ingratiate him more with the. With the organization. And it did this. The opposite.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it probably. It probably was worse. Probably even got worse because he played so well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So who do you think?

[Joe Johnson]

I. I think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I think because, you know, he came out and made those statements and said that this was his best season. This.

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This.

[Joe Johnson]

He had the most fun this season. So everybody kind of took that as like a little slap. And I think they've been giving him. They've been giving him, you know, some backlash behind that. But, hey, man, the young man gonna come ready to play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because the thing is, when you get in that position, they parse everything that you say.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Been there. We know that, Ocho. We in the little. The little business that we in. Everything that we say, they pick apart.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know. You know, what would JB remind me of a little bit? I think some people. Some people in the chat probably won't get it, you know, based on the age. Remember good times?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Remember how when Michael would be militant at times?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what JB remind me of a little bit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're right, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who be militant?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Go ahead, Jojo, finish up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no, no. That's it. That's it. I just. Just think about that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Which superstar do you believe is under the most pressure? First, you, Joe. And then Ocho, Jason, Tatum or Luca?

[Joe Johnson]

I got Luca, man. Luca. No, LeBron, man. He didn't care. He carried a lot of weight over there, you know, over the past, what, eight, nine years. And he was in la. And we'll have to see if Lucas, man, can stay healthy for whole 82 and have, like an MVP. Yeah, he. I mean, I mean, because he is tremendous. Throughout the regular season when he plays, he led the league and scoring. So he. He got, he, I think, the most pressures on him. And they in la, bro. Come on, man. What are we talking about? They allow he in la LA Land. Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ain't nothing going on down there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you mean, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, man, Luke over there, they got a team, constructed a K Pop, Backstreet Boys. And NSync about press, man. Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, they built that team. Ramona Shelbourne laid it out. She said, I mean, what, what she reported is that they put thing together at Craig's. They went to Craig and they laid it out. They said, we're gonna have LeBron James money to come out the book and we'll be able to build this roster to your liking, to your specifications. You know, if you get a custom car, they'll build it to your specs. How, how fast do you want to go? What type of engine? You want a V8? You want to be 12? You want a twin turbo? You want electric? Whatever you want to be. Whatever, whatever. The interior Resto mod cut the doors? What. What is it that you want? So they built this team, this Lakers team is to Luka Doncic's specifications. The Celtics, not built to Jason Tatum. They just got up off. They just got up off of jb. He wanted, he wanted a big. That could do big in the pick and roll, roll. They get Walker Kessler. He said, I want, I want AR back. AR is back on a four year, 140 something million dollar contract.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I want shooters. What is about Rui? I mean, they, they signed somebody that wasn't as good as Roy in the regular season or the postseason and gave more than what Rudy got. Rui got going to the Clippers. So I hope it works out for him. I'm. I. I'm a Luca. I'm not a big as Luca fan as I am a LeBron fan, obviously.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, so what, you a Philly fan now, huh?

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Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't no secret. Ain't no secret. The chat, though. A noticeably slimmer Joel Embiid is going viral. One executive bluntly stated they don't trust him at all when discussing Embiid's health and availability. Embiid has played just over 50% of the regular season games since entering the NBA in 2014. He's played 490 out of 965 possible games. Joe, with Brian, Max and JB around him, if Embiid can stay healthy, stay in this kind of shape, can they win the title?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah, they can win. I told you. I told you. Ocho, man, I said, listen, if I'm braun this before he committed, I said, man, I'm on the phone with MB Come to find out what happened. Uncle OO Br went and met with Embiid. Yeah. Because he's the catalyst to whatever it is that Philly's trying to do. Yep. Maxi gonna be Great. Edgecombe gonna be great. JB gonna be great. LeBron gonna be great. But if this man right here, he look good. He look like he in great shape. I hope he can get up and down the court with this. But if he can keep this up. Okay, Ojo, he in great shape, and he's back to where he's virtually unguardable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're looking at his left. They're looking at his left knee. Oh, Joe, what you think?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle, I'm send you. I'm gonna send you about 50k, man. I need you to go. Go put it down on. On Philly. I think I'm gonna put them on Philly to win it

[Chad Ochocinco]

already. Plus 900. What?

[Joe Johnson]

That'll pay me out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me look it up right quick.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause I don't know how everybody think. These dude Philly gonna be slow. Boy, these boy gonna cut up, all right? They finna cut up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ojo, listen, it look good on paper. Everything look good on paper till it's time to play, all right? Now, we haven't. We haven't seen him play. We've seen teams constructed that we thought were gonna be all world. Hell, when I thought Kyrie and goddamn James Harden and Kevin Durant in Brooklyn, I thought Brooklyn was going win them a goddamn title. You know, based on the names, now we got to see how them boys play. I'm sure at some point, you know it. You have training.

[Chad Ochocinco]

450,000. Oh, yeah. So you get. So you get 400. You get your. You get your 50 back, and you get four and you win. 450. So you'd be plus.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna send you 50, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna send me 50?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, play that for me, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

What you sending it to me for? You need to send Uncle Vegas. I'm sending mine to us so he can go play it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, Y' all want to get up?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm gonna break you off, though. We win, I'm going to break you off. You know what I mean?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, give you. I'mma give you something, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

so we give him 100.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How I get to be booking you? Go get.

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna. I'm. I'm g. Yeah, I'm gonna give you 150. I'm gonna give you 150 I win you in Vegas. Yeah, hook me up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lord have mercy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, hell, Joe, I'mma save my money. Just slide me something when you win.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Bet. I got Jojo. I get. I got you.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't need nothing but I need about. About just send me fast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you have no concerns about his left knee? Cuz I think that's the knee that he wears the knee brakes on also.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I got to see him move and I got to see him getting up and down. I got to see his gallop. I got to see how he run hell, I got to see how. I got to see how he transition from offense to defense. You know what I mean? Like a picture telling me one thing. But I got to see some movement, man.

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I got to.

[Joe Johnson]

I got to see what them feet look like, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I guess, you know, when training camp come around, I'm sure the cameras will be on Philly. But he look good, though. He looks slim.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he looked definitely look good. He definitely looks better.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Got some nice definition to him, man. Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I never concerned myself with a guy working out the offseason because it's easy. Is that. Make those decisions. Can you make those same decisions when you don't have a chef that's traveling with you and you get into that city at 2 o' clock in the morning? Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. And you gotta eat them Zuzus and win.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Win. Yeah. You eating pizza.

[Joe Johnson]

You eating fried chicken and pizza and French fries. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

On the plate.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And then finna go right to sleep. You know how I go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And if Chip said, yeah, I think I'll stay right here. Right here, right now. I ain't going nowhere.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you. Hey, you ate four. Hey, you ate four bags of chips. That 900 calories. Come on, man. Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Wizards and Anthony Davis, agent Rich Paul, have decided to wait and talk for the potential extension until after the season starts. AG AD Becomes eligible today to sign an extension worth up to four years. $275 million. One source. This gives both sides the first 20 games to marinate on whether to pay AD or not. Joe, do you believe 20 games is enough to see if AD is worth 275 over four years?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, it gives me a nice little sample size and it keeps them firing the AD you know, you got to show me some Uncle Ocho. And in them 20 games, I don't need you taking no games off. I need you because you say you're gonna play 82. Now, it's been reported. Now, he didn't already say he gonna

[Chad Ochocinco]

play 82 games at this point.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just telling you what he said. That man said he playing all 82. I want to see AD get back to dominating. Yeah, they'll break him off. He better be. He better be cutting cheese boy in the first 20 games. I know that. Why? Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. That'll be all on my mind. Like the first 20 game, I gotta come in and show out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you thinking, Ojo?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, listen, it's based on his injury history, based on what we've seen almost every single season. He's always been hurt, but sure, I ain't never knocking on nobody when it come to making any money, you know, four years, 275, he's earned that. He wanted the best four best fives, one of the best stretches, you know, to ever play the game. And I'm just saying. I'm just thinking about. He's always hurt most of the time, but, you know, get your money. Get your money, Young bull. I can't knock that.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And UN Oo. They just gave Trey Young like 212, something similar to that, you know what I mean? Like the Wizards. That's going to be a lot of money for a team who wasn't in the damn playoffs last year, you know what I mean? So jump out the gate, you know, show some promise, you know, help this young AJ to bounce out. Hopefully that all blends and meshes well together. Yeah, man, they. Hey, I know Rich Paul on his back. Hey, boy, they gonna guap you down now, you know, you gotta get in some good shape.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right? All right. Hurry, hurry, hurry. In the final week of the regular season, the top two seeds go at it as coach Nancy Libra Klein. Nancy Lieberman. I guess she's not married anymore. Dallas Power take on coach Dr. J. Julius Irving's Chicago triplets. Big man Greg Monroe, Glenn Rice, Jr. Elijah Stewart, Montrez Harold, Brandon Moss, Amir Johnson. Big names, real Hoopers and no easy buckets. This is hoops. This is all we need. Big three season nine. Joe, who you got?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, I told y'. All. You know, you look at that Miami 305 team today. They played today against the Houston regions. And lance Stevenson had 25, Beasley had 20. They gonna be hard to beat when them dudes playing like that. Yeah, that two hooded monster. And they know it's at stake because they can't waste no more games like the playoffs about to get ready to start.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They look great. They've been playing well, but the LA ride, they out of it. The White Howard team, I thought they were going to be a team that was going to be there at the end, but they not. So it's looking decent, man. You know, the ball halls got a great chance to do something special. There was a few teams out here. The triplets, the Chicago triplets. They've been kind of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's Trez team, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's Montrez Harris averaging 36. 7 a game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He averaging almost 37 points a game. He gonna win the MVP.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Only thing is, he ain't played but, like, three games. Oh, that's what I'm saying. As opposed to. I see he missed, like, the first couple games. The rest of these dudes and play like, five, six games. He ain't played. I think he played half of that. That's the only thing. But he putting up numbers.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yo, that man had 42 or they 50 points one game.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh, God. I'm. Hey, hey, hey, listen, I agree with you. He doing his damn thing. You know what I mean? Like, he probably would get it. He probably would get it because they. They've been dominating.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's been putting on. He's been putting on the show. I mean, basically, it's the battle of the bigs because, you know, Stewart and Monroe, I mean, you got Trez and Amir Johnson, and then you got Glenn Rice Jr. We'll see. It's coming. This is what it was supposed to be. This is what it was supposed to be. I think, you know, you wanted to come down to, like, everybody not know somebody running away with it, because you really don't know who's going to win. You really don't, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Unless. Unless I. Unless I was playing, y' all wouldn't know. Y' all would know. Y'. All. We'll be running away with that thing, Ocho. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you. And probably gonna have that thing on lock, huh, Man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. How many. How many points you'll drop, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm. If I was playing, I probably average about. About 30, 31.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You think so?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we ain't going to fit. The hell if the rest of them dudes can't come up with a couple points between them for us to get 50, hell won't deserve to win. Okay. Yeah, I got 30. Oh, so I got 30 in my back pocket. Okay. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I got 30 in my back pocket.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. You know, I hit you. I hit. Talk to Joe earlier today, you know. You know, I'm playing. I'm playing in the game again this year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What game?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The big. The big three. You heard me.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna coach it. I'm gonna coach him up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Joe gonna be at the game so he gonna coach me up from the sideline.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I already told him don't be out there embarrassing us.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. I got you, Joe. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, I got. I got you, Joe. Hey, I'm gonna put. Hey, Joe, I'm Put on a mean demonstration.

[Amazon Prime / ChatGPT Advertiser]

You hear me?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm gonna be out there doing my one, two, boy. I'm gonna represent Nightcap like. Well, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Why act like he ain't buying it, though?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Like, you know, he ain't got to buy it. Cause I ain't trying to sell him nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't worry about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

hey, Hey, Joe, I've been. I've been practicing my shot with a.

[Joe Johnson]

With a little ball, man. It ain't gonna get it, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, don't. Don't worry. Hey, you want me come get some work with you before I go out there?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. That's what you need.

[Joe Johnson]

For real.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

That what you need?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. The game. The A. I think the game. August 15th. No, right.

[Joe Johnson]

I gotta look at the schedule.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. I come out, spend it. But what I need, about a week. A week? A week.

[Joe Johnson]

With you, they don't need but a couple days of this here, man. I'm gonna give you some pointers that gonna have you, right? Gonna get you. You gonna score some points. I tell you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Points.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I wanna. Hey, I wanna. I want to act like D. Wade, right? I want to hit the game winner. Remember when D. Wade jumped on the scoreboard

[Joe Johnson]

this much?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm sorry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I am. You gotta have faith in me, man. You got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta have faith like the size of a muscle. I saw what you did last year, man. I'm so embarrassed.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. You gotta. You gotta remember now, I told you not a bet. The boys had a bet. No, I wasn't trying to be, you know, an officer. Officer Juggernaut. But this year, okay, I'm gonna hold the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be like. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I'm gonna be like, Kobe. I ain't passing.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nope.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be an ugly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't want it to be black, Mama. We got Black Snake. Black Snake mentality. I'm done with this, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. I'm telling you now, Joe, I ain't passing the ball. I'm gonna come down there, Joe. I'm gonna come down to Atlanta for maybe three days, all right? Get some good work in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We go up to the house facility. You know what I mean?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you think they'll let. They let me in? Yeah. Okay, okay. Okay. I'm gonna tell my baby. Baby, I gotta go to the A. You hear me? Maybe I gotta go to the air workout with Joe. I'll probably come out. I. Probably what? Maybe Monday. I'm gonna see. I'm gonna see. See what she say? I come out probably Monday. Herbie, get out the way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ti. Son. Major just got his driver's license, and let's just say the first trip did not go as planned. Take a look at this, guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Let.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let.

[Joe Johnson]

How you. Come on.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come straight.

[Joe Johnson]

Straight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, damn.

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Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If he pass the driver. God damn. That's what I. Johnny, I said the same thing you said. He did that to me. Whoa,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen. I remember them days of being nervous when you first get your license. Yeah, you first get your license. You know, you. You stepping on the brake too hard. You don't know how to. How much you know? Yeah, man, you got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

You got the heavy ass foot over there. You don't know. You. You don't know how much pressure to use.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Y' all, hold up. Hey, T, I'm sorry, bro. I don't know, man. God dang. I'm like, tiny.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

God dang.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all got. Hey, hey. Y' all gotta let Major hit a few more blocks before you get out there on those streets. Yeah. Dang.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he passed the driving part. Written exam. Okay, fine. Damn. Ot, I got. Come on, Tip,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe. Oh, Joe. All yours. Got a car ready?

[Joe Johnson]

Who, oh, who he is? No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joey got the one of age.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My son, he ready. He got his permit.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, I'm like, How old is he again, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Six. Sixteen.

[Joe Johnson]

Bro, that's. That's early, man. I'm sorry, bro. Y' all don't think that's early?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's too early. No, don't get Neonino car yet, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because he can't drive unless somebody. Somebody got a driver's like, I, I. I know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And he. When, when my. When my. My daughter. My daughter that, you know, run track at uk, you know, they in town.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So what happened when she's not in town?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He gonna park the car.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He ain't driving. He ain't driving. He. Man, he ain't got no car to drive. What you mean? Okay, yeah, ain't nothing to my. Hey, I need a car. A cop from Who? Ask your mom. Your mama say yeah, cuz, I know. I know you know.

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Mama don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mama don't play that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ask your mama if she say yeah. I get you one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. Yeah. The first time. Driver, ain't no way I'm standing in there between the park like. He tried. He tried to parallel. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. He said he rather him hit him versus hitting his car in front of him. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I think that's King. That's King that came out there limping like that. Yeah, that's King.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. He looked what? It looked like, tiny.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know. I don't know about that Tip. You might need a. The question is, is. Would Tip be in the car with him while he driving on in Atlanta?

[Joe Johnson]

But you know, hey, hey. It get you a nervous wreck.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man, because I know. I was in there, Boy. I was in the truck with my son, boy. He was driving my car.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was spitting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Was he. It took everything I do not to punch him. That dude drew like 89, doing like 100 miles an hour on the highway.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ain't telling to slow down, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Kayla like, daddy, you ain't gonna say. You ain't say nothing. I said, bro, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't. I didn't want him to panic. I said never again. You drive with me in the car. You drive your

[Joe Johnson]

boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then Kayla, she was worse on August 21st. What's your plan? I want vengeance. No one does action movies. We got a problem on the ship like Jason Statham.

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[Joe Johnson]

Mutiny.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Past Dub said, before y' all tried domesticating wild animals, take a look at the guy back in the 90s that had the tiger and the alligator in his apartment in Harlem. Yeah, I remember that as a Matter of fact, they just did a story on it again. But in his apartment, man had a 400 pound tiger and a 400 pound tiger and an alligator.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I told you it's possible to domesticate him. If he could have an alligator and tiger, I can have a damn alligator.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know how they found out he had him? He said his ass to the ER that's how they found out he had it. He got attacked by a pit bull. Doctor said, no, there ain't no pit bull attack there. The officer arrived, coming to the the window. The tiger face, y'.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

You can Google it. The tiger face in the window, Big ass head taking off.

[Joe Johnson]

What's the name of it? What's the name of it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I forget the guy's name, but. Tiger found in the Harlem apartment. Yeah. Nah, I try to. I domesticate stuff that I know can be domesticated. Like a horse, like a goat.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Damn. They went up to the window. Yeah, that thing in the window. Boy, please. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rumbling. They tranquilized it and got his big ass up out of there.

[Joe Johnson]

I'd be in my car anyway.

[Chad Ochocinco]

2022. What's up, big three? Last show, y' all talked about a woman that Target public and Whole foods in Texas, we have Heb. It's like that, trust me. Specifically, in Houston, you have all flares. Ask anybody about Heb. H E B. I'm gonna take your word for it, bro. I'm gonna take your word.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, make sure you put that in your phone, man. We. We pull up a Heb.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Heb.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we're gonna pull up there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What would that stand for?

[Joe Johnson]

That's. That's the grocery store.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's wrong with Publix?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we already know Ocho eat groceries, so he probably right at home. Ah, you don't need to go to the store for that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When you say groceries, what that mean?

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean. Cover my face. Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Like this?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that. Would you tell her to cover your face?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay. I'm okay. Hey. Okay. I got. Hey, I got one. Hey, hey, hey. What you call a man that can't stand?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't gonna come. Whatever you call it,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, what you got? What you call a man that can't stand?

[Joe Johnson]

A man that can't stand.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And joe. Neil.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's bad. Here to myself. Neil, You've had gave some good takes over the years, but what's your worst take? That's aged badly. I didn't think. I didn't think Patrick Mahomes gonna turn out to be Patrick Mahomes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, my home.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because nobody has ever come out of that air raid system had ever done anything.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's a good point.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just looking at the. The five. The five, seven quarterbacks that's come out of there. And lo and behold, he went to. But I should have known. I should have trusted Andy. Damn the quarterback. Trust Andy. Cause Andy and he gonna get it out of. Just turned 37 on July 26th. Fellas, any advice for growing older? I still feel 27. Glad to have my guys back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Shoot, hell, I feel 27. I ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't never stopped moving, bro. That.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you hit the nail on. You hit the nail on the head, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Never stop moving.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't stopped moving yet,

[Joe Johnson]

man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look here, Bro, you just realized 27, you're not in the age yet. I mean, but at some point in time you realize the only thing left to do is just to get old. That's all he is to do, man. Stay out of people's way and just go to old gracefully. It's gonna happen. You go, hey, you are the good. You are the sweet spot now, 27.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, you getting down at 27 when you. Man, look at him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unc. Uncle reminiscing boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips on the waves? Well, I was showed up hell there, boy. I was hell on two wheels. Shadow Pole 5125. Big three. Should Olivia Miles make the U. S. National basketball team this year? Big three. Keep up the good work on sports analysis and life stories. Look, hey, go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead. Joe. I think she should.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, not even just from the scoring aspect, but her playmaking ability, you know, the way she's made everybody around her better. Great spirit, super competitive, great competitor. Yeah, I. I think she should.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got a miss.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't think she should be on that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Remember how they did they car the same way? Remember last time they took. They took DT and Sue Bird,

[Joe Johnson]

left

[Chad Ochocinco]

Clayland at home for the Olympics.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So now you got Jackie Young, you got Chelsea Gray, you got Kelsey Plum, you got Caitlin Clark and Paige. Paige Beckers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, you saw Chelsea Gray call game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, Chelsea had that thing going. Hey, hey, hey. Point God had that thing going. I gotta see. I gotta check them out. I gotta check them. I gotta see them. I gotta see them play. My girl Chelsea had that thing going tonight. Hit the game. With the game tied three and the game with. Man, boy, they gagged so bad tonight. The fever did they was up 20 Joe and then missed three free throws that could have put the game out of reach. Caitlin missed both of her free throws. They missed the free throw, got the rebound, got fouled. Caitlyn missed both of them. Hey, they got that thing to Jackie. Jackie. Hey, kick that thing to Chelsea. Jab.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, man, that Kelsey Mitchell be out there getting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, that lefty, you know, that's George Jordan when honey went to school together. Hey, man, Jordan can't play ball, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Money. She nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, that left it. It's something about them lefties when you find a lefty that can get buckets.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

They just look so smooth with it.

[Joe Johnson]

They do, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't never seen no lefty to look raggedy. Every lefty that I've ever seen play. Look, look.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, something about it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know what it is about a lefty, but something about a lefty, whether it's bowling, whether it's throwing a baseball, whether it's horseshoes, shooting, pool, a baseball, basketball. I don't know what it is about that left playing tennis. It's something about the spin they can get on the ball, especially tennis players. Even bowling, man, they be hooking that ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, y' all know it don't take a lot in bowling, you know, it's just straight. You remember how I did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Now. Now we can't talk about old stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, we don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, I can't bring.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can't.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't bring that up. I can't talk about that now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got me on IR messing with you in bowling.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you over here with me here. Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo, cinco. You just got mentioned in a little Uzi bird song he just dropped called Yoko. You heard it, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, of course I heard it. That's my little nephew. I don't. People. People don't realize my name has been mentioned in rap songs for the past 25 years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

25 years you've been that boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, really not being that boy, but it's always in reference to the way I live my life in general. Always. Every time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's just. Just the way I've done everything, so it's pretty cool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow. Ocho ISO. Do you think doing away with the fullback position played a role in devaluing the running back position?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, not at all. Whether you're good or you're good, you have to understand, if you're elite, like these players that are getting paid 20 and above, they're Elite. You can't devalue those type of backs. You can. You just can't. How can you. They are too valuable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They wanted to value a position that you don't put an emphasis on. So you're not running the football. We throwing the football. But you said, well, we don't run it. Well, you throw it 50 times a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell. Mm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think somebody gonna rush for 200 yards and 15 carries? You might have a situation like that once upon a time, but that's not. That's not normal.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Official GT El. I'm being sincere when I say this. I think Steve Smith and Ocho deserve to be inducted to the hall of Fame with what they both were able to do with the teams they were on. I think it's a given. They should. Ocho, what you think?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. No. Steve. Yes. Me. No.

[Joe Johnson]

Why you say no to you?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I got my own jacket. I like it. I like it the way it is. I. I'm just. Just. Joe, I'm being honest. You know, I'm not really one that really. I. The hall of Fame. What it. What it means, what it stands for, what it represents.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Awesome.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Awesome. UNC Being in there, you know, being a part of that illustrious crew of players.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who are the best of the best and enshrined legacy cemented like. No, I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't need that. I don't need that. I like my little jacket I made. It fits me. It fits my personality. It fits who I am. I. I just like it that way. Steve. Steve definitely belongs in it, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's tough, man. I don't know what the hall of Fame is anymore. I thought I'd know. They've been. Took me out of it. Out of the running. Said because I was saying, guys. Oh, that guy about to go in and he ain't. People ain't in there yet. Tori Hope. Reggie Wayne. Yeah. Luke going in on Saturday. Mike Shanahan should be in there. They got some coaches in there. Mike Shanahan got back to back Super Bowls, man. Look here. So I'm protesting. This will be part one of a two part question. So I came across an article on future hall of Famers and they wrote. The writer wrote about Josh Allen. What do y' all think? All love, fellas. Keep up the entertainment. Thanks. Ash Allen would be the quarterback on the all decade first team. If they released it tomorrow. Every single all decade quarterback is enshrined in the hall of Fame. Allen would join them. Bill Barnwell. Hold on. He Gonna be the first with no Super Bowls. And you got Patrick Mahomes. Got two of them things in the 20 in. In this decade and been to four. Oh, I'm missing something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Haha.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A man got back to back Super Bowl. So let me get this straight. One guy got an MVP, he got two Super bowl wins back to back MVPs in this decade. Got the most playoff wins in this decade. But Josh Allen would be the. Hey guys, there's a video trending. Michael Irving said he would have Reggie White, J. Boogie and Garrett over Don Garrett and Donald. I'll take Reggie and Jay Boogie. Man. People don't realize how, how good Reggie because like it's hard to imagine if you didn't see a player play. Yeah, yeah, I played, I played, I played against. I didn't play against Jerome. Jerome had ended up tragically passing away. And in April or May of 92, we played them that fall. They held us to 37 total yards.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Go look it up. Chat 1992 Broncos play the Eagles in, in, in, in.

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In.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In Veteran Stadium Stadium. They held us to 3237 yards total total.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all did all that practice and all that to put up 36 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, man, Reggie was hell. Hey, hey, just imagine, just imagine Aaron Donald now put 20 pounds on him and 4 inches because that's Reggie 6, 4, 300 and just tossing 330 and 50 pound linemen. He tossed him with one arm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that, that one he got on. What's. Brother Allen.

[Joe Johnson]

Larry Allen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he called, he caught Larry Ellen on his heels.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, you got to realize. But they had a team then. They had. They had Reggie, they had Boogie, they had Seth, Clyde Simmons because they played the three. They. Then they had Seth. Seth Joyner, Byron Evans, ea.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

yeah, yeah, they were. They were loaded defensively. Hey, Unc, my father has the same story. When you played for san diego, the 70s said that he had an int in his hand and James Lofton took it from over his back for a td. James said, nah, I got that Lofton

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was

[Chad Ochocinco]

when he was. People don't remember. See, James started in Green Bay. Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey guys, Chris Carter recently said that if Terrell Owens was a better route runner, he would have been even better than what he was. Do you guys agree?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, why Chris Carter always talking about somebody, what somebody should have done for

[Chad Ochocinco]

you to say that, that's saying something. Look, no matter what you thought of him as a route runner, he's the second or third best greatest receiver to ever play yeah. But for his size, you got to realize to six foot two and a half. Six, three, two, 15. What you want to be get. You wanted to get in and out of routes like Ocho or Devonte or ab. You're asking all a lot of that's asking an awful lot to a man for a man to downshift that size running that hard and to do a comeback and to do a dig, do an end cut. I thought to ran pretty good Ross. Me. Me personally. But yeah, he did. Hey, he ran him good enough.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You see what the numbers look like and you get the ball in his hands. Man, you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Very many people good. As good as Ocho ever been. Excuse me with to run out the catch. He was a. He ran angry. He ran angry. He did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Him and Steve Smith with that ball in their hands.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't never. What I don't know what powerful power

[Chad Ochocinco]

Steve Smith, the greatest receiver ever played. Pound for pound.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Five, nine. How much midi weigh? 200.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Smitty would mean as hell.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, that little joke was tough. Boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was mean.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tougher than wet leather.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pound for pound. I'll take Steve Smith over anybody. Powerful pound.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. You know my best game. I'll never forget this, bro. I watched him play. You remember when he went to the Ravens and he played against the Panthers?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That boy put on mean demonstration boy and cut up. He cut up, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Smitty, don't forget. That's one thing for sure.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe. You know, me and Smitty, we played together at Santa Monica Junior College.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember. I remember you telling me that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And you code. We was on the same team and he would just. He was just like that back then too. This back in 97. Yeah, that's my guy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. That is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own bingo's ring of fame honoree. A former pro bowler at an all pro. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And from the University of Arkansas, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier. Head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase yours if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. A premium VSOP cognac drinks like an XO without the price and it comes in two sizes. The 750 is the OG, the 375 is the Junior. Same great quality, same great taste. Again, thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm unknown, he's oo, he's ISO. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you again on Saturday. Peace.

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