Nightcap Hour 1: Turkey BEATS USA in Final Group Stage + Timberwolves TRADE for LaMelo Ball + Celtics SHOPPING Jaylen Brown

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1 (June 26, 2026): Turkey BEATS USA + Timberwolves LAND LaMelo + Celtics SHOP Jaylen Brown

Episode Theme

This episode of Nightcap, hosted by Shannon Sharpe and featuring Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson, brings instant reactions and unfiltered analysis on a wild night in sports. Topics include the USA’s dramatic loss to Turkey in the World Cup group stage, the blockbuster NBA trade sending LaMelo Ball to the Minnesota Timberwolves, and the Boston Celtics’ apparent willingness to trade Jaylen Brown for a big man. The trio blends passionate sports talk with trademark humor and locker-room banter throughout.

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USA FALLS TO TURKEY: WORLD CUP GROUP STAGE INSTANT REACTIONS

[08:16 - 23:15]

• The show opens with heated reactions to the US Men’s National Soccer Team losing 3-2 to Turkey in the final Group D match.
  • Shannon Sharpe is openly frustrated but notes, “We advanced. We won the group. … Now we play Bosnia [and Herzegovina] for a chance to go to this round of 16. … This is some bull job.” (08:26)
  • The US started fast, scoring in the opening minutes, but then lost momentum. Turkey equalized and eventually won with a late goal.
  • Ocho highlights the impact of missing key starters (due to yellow card suspensions or rest), leading to “a little shaky” performance and less polished play compared to earlier games. (12:27)
  • The group discusses how tournament momentum and “doing almost everything perfect” (14:59) is required to survive knockout rounds.
  • Ocho, fresh from attending the match, says: “Man, the crowd was stunned. … You could feel it. The energy went out of the building.” (16:42)
  • “We gotta get to 16. It is an absolute must on home soil,” says Shannon, emphasizing pressure on Team USA with the World Cup at home. (14:37)
• Emphasis on soccer’s fine margins:
  • Ocho: “The margin of error is so small, so small… Every, every moment counts. Every single moment in possession counts.” (14:59)
  • Joe: “One thing about soccer … whatever team plays best that day [wins]. … It’s not guaranteed the better team’s gonna win with the better players.” (20:57)
• Shannon: “Now the real deal is about to start. … You lose, you go home.” (15:45)
• They preview the matchup vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina (July 1), noting its do-or-die stakes and the emotional weight of potential elimination on home turf.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe: “We can’t let nobody come on our front porch now and try to fight us.” (16:03)
• Uncle Ocho: “If we lose in the round of 32… I might cry. This come around every four years, Joe!” (17:14, 17:22)
• Shannon: “We had never seen them be this aggressive … first time in damn near 100 years. … I really, really was hoping to go undefeated in group play.” (19:37)

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BLOCKBUSTER NBA TRADE: LAMELO BALL TO TIMBERWOLVES

[26:28 - 36:39]

• The Charlotte Hornets trade LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Naz Reid, a future unprotected first rounder, three second round picks, and multiple pick swaps.
• Shannon, Joe, and Ocho break down the trade:
  • “I don’t know how dangerous [the Wolves] gonna be … but they damn sure gonna be exciting as hell.” — Shannon Sharpe (27:17)
  • Minnesota now pairs LaMelo (2020’s No.3 pick) with Anthony Edwards (No.1); hosts agree this will “make each other better” (Shannon, 27:33) and is a move to help Ant take the next step by easing pressure and attracting less double coverage.
  • Joe points out Minnesota’s need for scoring and offensive versatility; “Ant Man was facing constant double teams… Now he has a guy that can stretch the floor.” (28:23)
  • Skepticism about defense: “He ain’t much on the defensive end, but he and Ant Man are going to put so much pressure on you on the offensive end…” (Joe, 28:33)
  • Ocho: “He’s one of the few players that Charlotte’s had that can put butts in the seat … to let a figure of that magnitude go…” (33:29)
  • They discuss LaMelo’s injury history, upcoming huge contract, and Charlotte retooling around younger talent.
  • “Nobody [in the NBA] is untradeable anymore. If you can trade Luka, you can trade anybody.” (Joe, 34:16)
• Quick aside turns into animal metaphors and playful banter about “freakiness”, snakes, and arachnophobia—a classic Nightcap off-the-rails moment.

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CELTICS SHOP JAYLEN BROWN: THE CONTROVERSY AND FRUSTRATION

[54:37 - 79:38]

• Boston Celtics are reportedly open to trading Jaylen Brown (JB) for a “big man” (Chris Mannix report); many conversations initiated by both rivals and the Celtics.
• Shannon rants about the unfairness of JB’s name always being in trade rumors:
  • “You arrived in Boston one year before Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum’s name has never come up in a trade when Boston were trying to acquire someone. Your name has constantly come up…That is not speculation. That is fact.” (58:37, 59:12)
  • “Y’all can’t get mad at Stephen A. … Get mad at Brad Stevens. Get mad at the Boston Celtics organization for continuously putting this man in trade discussions.” (58:37)
• Conversation turns to why Tatum is the organization's “favorite” and the risks of being outspoken in a city like Boston.
  • Ocho: “Jason Tatum’s safe. There’s no issues, there’s no problems. … When the margin between stars is small, organizations pick safe.” (63:34)
  • Shannon (on JB’s activism): “I’m glad he’s in the community… But if you think [NBA] teams like that, you’re crazy.” (64:15)
  • “Bill Russell—greatest winner in sports history—look what they did to his house.” (65:04)
  • Parallels drawn to how activists and outspoken players have historically been undervalued or mistreated.
• Speculation on JB’s future and why teams might be leery of supermax extensions:
  • “He can give you 29, 6, and 5. I don’t know what you want … He might be a better all-around player than Tatum when you consider everything—defense and offense.” (78:26)
  • Joe: “He wants to be desired. … You tell me you love me, but you don’t show me, you show Jason Tatum.” (77:20)
  • On JB’s Olympic snub: “He had all-star, Finals MVP, ECF MVP … and still couldn’t get on the Olympic roster.” (77:00)
  • Ocho and Joe agree: wherever JB lands, expect an all-NBA campaign. “He gonna be so determined and pissed off!” (69:57)
• The crew debates possible trade destinations (Orlando, Atlanta, Houston, Spurs, Minnesota) and the logistics of actual trade packages.
• Closing banter: “It’s so hard to break them two up…How you get to the mountaintop with these two and then because of an injury you ready to give JB away who has been consistent on both ends of the floor?” (72:09)

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NOTABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES

• Shannon Sharpe: “We can’t let nobody come on our front porch now and try to fight us.” (16:03)
• Uncle Ocho: “If we lose in the round of 32… I might cry. This come around every four years, Joe!” (17:14, 17:22)
• Joe Johnson: “Nobody in the NBA is untradeable anymore. If you can trade Luka, you can trade anybody.” (34:16)
• Shannon Sharpe (on JB rumors): “Get mad at Brad Stevens. … Your name has constantly come up. That is not conjecture. That is fact.” (58:37)
• Joe Johnson (on JB): “He wants to be desired…You show Jason Tatum that you love him. You’ve never shown me just how much I mean to you like you’ve shown JT and that’s what he wants.” (77:20)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------|-------------------| | USA vs Turkey Reaction & Knockout Preview | 08:16 – 23:15 | | LaMelo Ball to Timberwolves Trade Analysis | 26:28 – 36:39 | | NBA Trade Mentality Discussion | 33:25 – 34:42 | | Celtics Shop Jaylen Brown | 54:37 – 79:38 |

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Tone & Banter

Nightcap shines not just in sharp, passionate sports debate, but the camaraderie, expressive analogies, and playful roasting. Expect rapid topic pivots, sports bar energy, and inside-joke chemistry.

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Takeaway

If you missed the episode: USA faces a test of nerve with their World Cup hopes alive but dented by a shock Turkey loss; the Timberwolves go all-in on star power by pairing LaMelo Ball with Ant Edwards; and no matter what Jaylen Brown does, Boston seems ready to move on. Shannon, Ocho, and Joe blend candor, humor, and real talk for a can’t-miss late-night sports hot take hour.

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[Shannon Sharp]

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[Joe Johnson]

We had them. That was supposed to be fried turkey. Jokers be man but look we advanced. We won the group. We get to advance. Now we play Bosnia Herzog for a chance to to go to this round of 60. Man this is oh Lord this is some bull job. But anyway, thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Ocho is about to join us. You know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. My partner and co host that is Arkansas native. That's the University of Arkansas alum. He's a seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks. Mr. Clutch himself. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support because none of this is possible without you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember it is a premium VSOP Cognac that drinks like an exo without the price. It is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it compared against other cognacs you have tried to or looking to try and you'll see we have the best tasting, smoothest cognac on the market. And it comes in two sizes. The OG, which is the 750, the original bottle, and we have the Junior now, which is the 375. It is the same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Ah, man, we started off so good, Joe. We had an early lead. I think we scored in the first three, four minutes of the ball game. And I was like, damn. But it seems like, kind of like the USA relaxed in the first half. And then Turkey comes back with two goals of their own. And then to start the second half, we get the quick goal and tied up. We had so many shots on goal and we just kept, kept missing, kept missing. And in the closing minutes, Turkey got that goal in there to win. 3, 2 to conclude group stage play. USA will now play Bosnia and Herzog in the round of 32. Clinton, the first place in group D. There's absolutely. Well, it was something I wanted to win. I wanted bragging rights. I had called up, said, look, hey, this fried turkey, Joe, we got these. We got them.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's what. Hey, that's what I said when they jumped off to that good start. I, I like the back and forth, man. I like the action.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know what I mean? I like the action. I, I ain't like that. Turkey got us down at the end, but for the most part, you know, from a competitive standpoint, I thought we was going to pull it out. What? That would have been three in a row. First time since then.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And. And I think the thing is, Joe, I think because the US SC so easy so early, I think they kind of relaxed. And if you notice, Turkey kept the pressure on one, Turkey fell behind one nothing. They kept the pressure on throughout the entirety of the first half. We kept the pressure on them for the entirety of the second half, except that last goal. They were able to get that goal in there. Look, and I know for the most part, there was really nothing at stake. You wanted bragging rights, you wanted to go undefeated in group stage, but it is what it is. And now, so now the rubber really meets the road. And so this is where all the bragging rights come in. At Bosnia and Herzogena. They played them in the round of 32. Hopefully you can get an opportunity to go to the round of 16, and then we'll see what happened. But, boss, now you focus all your attention. There's nothing you can do about what you, you know, Uruguay and, and I Think they play what they play Uruguay, Uruguay, Paraguay. But they play one of them guys. But then they played Turkey and they played Australia. Yeah, it had been nice to go undefeated in group stage, but that didn't happen. And so now you focus your attention on Bosnia and Herzogina and see if you can advance to the round of 16. Oh, you saw this. And I was. I don't know if you heard what I said coming on. It seemed like because the US Scored in the first three to four minutes of the game, they kind of relaxed and then Turkey put the pressure on. Turkey kept. I mean, they kept attacking, they kept the ball in our end, they kept getting shots. I'm like, well, God damn, get the ball out of your end usa.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man.

[Joe Johnson]

I was like, man, they making me mad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it's a little. It's a little difficult, especially tonight. I know Turkey doesn't have. Have much to play for, but obviously they're going to play hard again. We have a few players, some of our starters that are out, Uncle Joe yellow cars. And we don't want to, want to. We don't want to chance them yellow in this game. Then that means they have to miss the next match. And the next match is very, very important. And obviously, just like, just like basketball, soccer also is a game of momentum. It's also a game of runs. And obviously in that first half, you know, after we scored, after we scored early, obviously, you know, Turkey had. Had. Had all the momentum and the runs, they were much more physical. They were much more physical on the ball, knocking us off the ball and just wanted to get to it a little bit more. In the second half, we got a little better, obviously. We got two goals, one from Trustee and one from Burkhalter. And I mean, we look good. And it just. You can tell that some of the starters weren't playing and because we were a little shaky, we didn't look. We didn't look as polished and clean and sharp as we did in the first two games.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, you look at Tyler Adams, Florian Balagun, Chris Richards and Ant Anthony Robinson, none of those guys played, as you mentioned. Ooh, they had a. A yellow card and didn't want to pick up the second yellow card and obviously missed the match. The most important match of this tournament thus far when they play Bosnia and Herzel Gobina. All that being said, look, we. We still look, I and I, you know, I was joking. Like, man, we just about to be fried Turkey. You know, Turkey only known for. They got two things. Yeah, hair transplant and Whirling derby, when they're praying and they just spending hours and hours and hours and hours. And I, I didn't really know. I heard people say a whirling dervish. It wasn't until I got, I got older that I realized they're actually praying. They're doing a chant and they do that. 6, 7, 8, 10, 12 hours, Joe. And so, yeah, that's what I knew. Whirling derbys. I didn't know they were from Turkey. But anyway, look, now this is the most important because you're on home soil. We've got. Somehow, Ocho, we got to get to. Oh, get. And I, I don't really want to put the cart in front of the horse and. Because I need the horse to pull the car.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn it. Yeah, we got to, we got that. We got to get to 16. We've got to. It is an absolute must on home soil and ain't no telling. It probably won't happen again in our lifetime where we'll have the, the Men's World cup on American soil. Yeah, so they've got to come to Elcho, Joe. They got to come through with this. They got to, Uncle Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I want y' all to understand how difficult it is, you know, to get to that round of 16. It's about playing solid mistake free football. I mean, that, that's, that's what it's going to have to be. You're going to have to be solid. I'm talking about almost damn near perfect in all three phases of the game. Midfield, your back line, defensively, when you're attacking offensively, inside, inside the 18, anything inside that box, always wanting to make the extra pass, you have to do almost everything perfect. And the margin of error is so small, so small. Once you're playing against better opponents or opponents that are just as good or better than you. Every, every, every, every. Every moment counts. Every single moment in possession counts.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey. But now this the real deal about to start now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You lose, you go home in the group stage. You know, you got three games in group stage once you lose. Now moving forward, you taking your ass home where the US Won't have far to go because they're in home, on home turf.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

We can't.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey. We can't let nobody come on our front porch now and try to fight us now. They ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I'm with you on that. Hey, they come with where they think you're the strongest at. Hey, we got to come through.

[Joe Johnson]

I'M like, man, how do you feel, Joe? You know what it's like to go into somebody else building and kick their ass, Ocho, you know what it's like to go in somebody else stadium and kick their ass? But look here, ain't nothing like that in our country. Yeah, the whole country. I don't, I don't care what anybody say. That seemed anticlimactic. And I'm looking at the thing of the crowd, and I know, you know, everybody was excited. Ocho, you were in attendance at the game. Left a little bit early, but at the end of the day, man, that crowd was stunned. I don't care what they say.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they were. They were. Hey, hey, listen.

[Tab Ramos]

That.

[Uncle Ocho]

When we get to that round of 32, I mean, what. We got round of 32, we got knockout stage, man. We got to get to a game, man.

[Joe Johnson]

We got. Look, man, look, my heart can't take it, Ojo. Man, we. Look, man, if we lose a game, if we lose the Bosnia, we lose in the round of 16. A game like this. Oh, I can't take that, man. I ain't gonna even lie to you.

[Uncle Ocho]

We. We got, we gotta, we gotta get past round 32 first.

[Shannon Sharp]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. Even if we. Ocho, can you imagine losing in the round of 32 like that?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I, I, I, I'd be hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I can't take that.

[Shannon Sharp]

I know Ocho might come on here and share the tea.

[Uncle Ocho]

I might cry.

[Shannon Sharp]

USA don't do it like that, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

This come around every four years, Joe. I cried when the Steelers beat the Bengals. Ain't no telling what might happen. What might happen?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, a game of this magnitude on our home turf. I mean, look, I watched the World cup every four years when it come around and, and watch the man, when they. All different places, but here. What was it that last time? Was it that Cutter in Qatar? Yeah, and, you know, they, and they moved it because of the, the. I don't know how they ended it. Well, that's another here and there temperatures. That'd be like having a World cup in Vegas or Arizona in the summer. Like what?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And Cutter and Qatar. Excuse me. I mean, they had to change the name. It was Cutter. Qatar. So Qatar what? What? You know what I'm talking about, Chad. But, man, we got, we got, we got. We got to get past Bosnia. And I know Bosnia is a very good team, and, and, but, hell, we're a good team, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn it.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, the hell we got a Young, we gotta. We gotta match him up. We got, we got to match them.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, we got this, bro. We got. We got this. We got this. We got this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wait, boy, I can't wait. Hey, what day they play, Ash?

[Joe Johnson]

When did they play?

[Shannon Sharp]

When did they play? Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

See if you got up here. No, Ash doesn't have it up here. When do they play again?

[Shannon Sharp]

When the wisdom.

[Joe Johnson]

The 32. July 1st, Wednesday. Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. So I got. I'm going to Portugal. Colombia. Saturday. Yeah, Miami, Saturday night. That. That. That's. That's gonna. Hey, what are you talking about? Atmosphere. You should. You two need to experience the best Colombian. Portugal crowd.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen, it's gonna be like that, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

You done made me take my shades off, Joe. And you know. You know I got one bad eye, huh?

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. I like that little Adidas jackets you got on, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

That's nice.

[Uncle Ocho]

I appreciate this, boy. I appreciate this.

[Shannon Sharp]

My bad. I know, I know I'm off topic, but I, you know, I like that little jacket. What size is that? What size is that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, medium. It's your size. What's up?

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, it's a snatching off your ass side. That's what it is. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Give me that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, usa. Hey, don't let us die. We. Hey man, y' all gotta better got our hopes up so, so high. Yeah, because they're playing so well. And Ocho, you were talking about. Look, we first game, we had never seen them be this aggressive throughout an entirety of a. And we see them not have a let down against Australia. They win consecutive match fits the first time in damn near 100 years. And then look, and for me, and, and, and look, it's. Anything can happen in a given game. It doesn't. But I'm. I'm saying I'm like, man, I really, really was hoping to go undefeated in group play.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

To really give us some. Now look, if I'm not mistaken, I think, I think Argentina, I think they lost in group play last year. Last. The last World cup, matter of fact.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they lost to a team. I don't want to say.

[Joe Johnson]

Was it Saudi Arabia.

[Uncle Ocho]

It was Saudi Arabia. Hey, two, two, one day. That was a good game too, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and so look, anything. I don't, I don't be. I don't be liking that. Well, you know, such and such did. This man, you know, such and such had a dog and his name was Lucky. And you got a dog named Lucky? And he worked 100 billion. You might be. Man, shut up. Hey, Chad, I know y' all can tell I'm hot about this, man. I was, man. I was about to come over here and talk to us. I told you. Ocho, man, this turkey leg hook. I told you when you go have fried turkey, you always got to have a regular turkey and a fried turkey.

[Uncle Ocho]

One thing about soccer is, you know, there's some teams there at the bottom, there's some teams at the top, but is whatever team plays best that day.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you know, it's not guaranteed that the better team going to win with the better players. It just. Dude, the margin for error is so small, Joe, man, It's like it. Yeah, man, it's crazy. It's really gonna ramp up and get crazy in round of 32. Because don't nobody want to make no mistakes. I want to make no mistakes. They don't. Don't nobody want to take no chances, you know, nobody wants to play free flowing football. They playing nervous, always passing the ball back, not taking nobody on. I mean, there might be one, I mean, maybe two or three teams that they have so much depth where they can take certain chances and know that they're covered on the back end, you know? Yeah, I know. We can go. We can get with attacking and being aggressive and being out of position because our defense got us. Yeah, everybody ain't built like that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But anyway, the USA men, they lose to Turkey tonight. Three, two, in the final minutes of play.

[Shannon Sharp]

And

[Joe Johnson]

now the real fun begins. It's the round of 32. The USA play Bosnian and Herzogena and we'll see. They play Wednesday, July 1. That match takes place and we'll see if they can advance to the round of. The round of 16. But before the round of 16, there's the round of 32. So the USA wins group D stage with two wins and A. And a loss. And they advanced along with Australia. And we'll see just how far this thing can go. We are home soil. Our men are playing very, very well. I thought they played really well the first couple of minutes, the opening minutes of the game. They scored so quickly and then they would seem like they were on the defense of the rest of the half. And then they came out. And then, you know, when you get opportunities, Ocho, you see and Joe, you see they had many, many opportunities to extend the lead, to go up 3, 2, to possibly go up 4, 2. And it was just a little bit off. And give Turkey credit, they hung around. They hung around hung around and in the closing minutes of ot. Excuse me, ET Extra time. They slide the goal in and they

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharp]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharp]

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[Joe Johnson]

harmony they win the match so they have something positive to go back home turkey and talk about and usa. We advance. And so that's what it is. Well, we had a big trade last night. The Charlotte Hornets traded LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the Timberwolves for Naz Reed and a series of draft picks. The Hornets will receive a 2033 unprotected first round pick, three second round picks, 2029, 2032, 2033. Charlotte also get first round pick swaps in 28, 29 and 30. The Timberwolves now have number one and number three picks from the 2020 draft. Joe, did Minnesota just become a dangerous backcourt in the Western Conference after pairing Mellow and Ant man together in Minnesota?

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, I don't know how dangerous they gonna be, Uncle Ocho, but they damn sure gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

They'll be exciting, huh?

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh man, they gonna be fun.

[Uncle Ocho]

I would take a ready to say that, Joe. They might, but they gonna be entertaining as hell.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharp]

Because you know, you gotta understand, both of those guys probably ranked top 5, top 10 and signature shoes that's out right now. Lamelo with Puma, Ant man with Adidas and just the aura that they both carry. I think they're gonna make each other better, bro. I think it's, I think it's definitely gonna help. If y' all notice, we always talk about a, a copycat league. Whether it's the NFL, whether it's the NBA. You see what Minnesota got going on. They, they trying to surround Rudy with all these tweeners who can do a little bit of everything. Kind of like how San Antonio, obviously Rudy ain't no damn wimby. But you know, they, they playing. They, they. Hey, hey. I kind of see it same way with New York. New York got Cat at the 5, but then you got OG Heart Bridges and then you got, you know, you got all these tweener guys around them. So I, I can kind of see that's What Minnesota's going because they got rid of their beef.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I think they, they, they. Yeah. Joe, I think the thing is, is that they need more scoring. They need consistent scoring. They need somebody that Ant man that can absorb some of these tub double teams from Ant Man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Ant man was facing constantly double teams and so, and to try to lighten the load on him, he has a guy that can stretch the floor. They haven't had this type of guy in a very, very long time. He can shoot the three. He has good a one leg shooting three as we have in the NBA. He can put the ball on the floor. He got a nice flow game he can finish. Now look, he ain't much on the defensive end, but he gna put so much pressure. He and AD man are going to put so much pressure on you on the offensive end and he says this is what we need. This is a scoring lead. League, excuse me? League. You're not fitting to hold somebody to 80, 90 points consistently. You might have a game, maybe two games where you keep a team under 100, but you better be able to score on the other end. Because if you counting on your night in and night out, Joe, like this was the 90s, the 80s, the whole team's under 90 points. Yeah, that issue ain't happening in today's game anymore.

[Shannon Sharp]

Nah, nah, nah. I see Lamelo Arkin Ocho, he gonna make the game a lot easier for Ant man, you know what I mean? Because Lamelo is a pass first point guard who can score, you know what I'm saying? So it's gonna be nice where he probably gonna have 16 assists, 12 points. It's gonna be other nights he may have 27 points and 8, 9 assists, you know what I'm saying? Like he's one of those guys who's gonna be able to fill out the game, but he knows he gonna always have to get Ant man going. So I think his high IQ for the game is so underrated. I'm glad he's been put in this position to where he can kind of showcase what he can do on, on a, on a playoff caliber team, you know, who, who's trying to, you know, ultimately win a championship. Now I know they want to do anything they can, bro, to, to please Ant man and try to keep him around. I think this is step in the right direction now. Although I don't think they done because you gotta have, you gotta have some size. Y' all can. Ocho, you gotta have something. You ain't got nothing. But Rudy, that Ain't gonna dang gonna get it.

[Joe Johnson]

No. I think but Joe concerns with that thing is because you know Mellow take a lot of bad shots.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Now the thing is he's not, he's not a prototype. He's not the old school point guard. Mellow. Mellow's looking score. I mean what do you what the average. Now I. I am not surprised by this trade. When they went, when they got went and got Kobe, right. They really love con caniple. They like okay we we're more conventional now. They want to build around Canipa. They want to build around Brandon Miller. They want now so we got Kobe, we got Knipple, we got Brandon Miller. I like what we got right now. And so yeah, people like oh, I'm sure I am not shocked by this. And plus mellow injury history.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I am. Because guess what, Joe Ocho in two years he gonna he looking smack dab at 300 million.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

People are thinking about that now, Joe. I think they're thinking more about that having to give a guy that third contract.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. The rookie contract is easy. That's a no brainer. He's sliding here. This is what he's gonna make. Now we okay now we got a rookie got. Now we got him on the second contract. Is he an all NBA selection? Is it all defensive selection? Is he an mvp? Is he a defensive player of the year? Because now that makes you get a super max contract. Now we get to that third contract, Joe, that's 290. That's 300.

[Shannon Sharp]

And at this third contract, hell we still ain't no damn playoffs. You know what I'm saying? So. So you right Unc. These teams are trying to get away from that. But to kind of piggyback on what you were saying about the Kobe white thing. I think he played so well in those play in games, Uncle Ocho. And not even just then, but since he came from Chicago, I think he's been so consistent. He was just great in those play in games that I think they really looked at. It was like you know what? Hell if we do have to get off lamelo, that's cool. I feel like Jacoby can run this point. You know we like con canipple, we like Brandon Miller. You know, we like the high energy guys that we got, man. Maybe we just move forward because if you fighting to get in the damn play in and understanding, you know, hell, the heat done got better. The eastern got a little thicker too. You know what I mean? So why not move on? Why not move on him now when he's probably at his highest value? Because he's just coming off probably his best season statistically in the NBA.

[Joe Johnson]

Melo can score. We know Mello can score. I mean, you don't realize how tall he is. He's legit six, seven.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Can get his shot up is very unorthodox. But he can get that shot off. He can put the ball in the floor. He got way above average handles. He can finish. He got a float. He can finish. So I, I, but I am not surprised by this based on the simple fact his injury history, he's gonna come up on a third year contract. And as you said, Joe, now we in the play in now we fighting for. Not 8, 9, 10 left. Nah, hell nah. 300 million for that. Nah, let somebody else deal with that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, right. Hey, go ahead.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna say, I mean he's one of the few players that Charlotte's had that can put butts in the seat going uncle Joe. They coming to see Lamelo because he's unpredictable, he's excited, he's entertaining, he's. You don't know what's going to happen. So to let a figure of that magnitude go and then you pair him with someone who, just as polarizing as he is on the court, off the court now they got to worry about is they got, they got to make sure, you know, he dragged the right way. That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask OO yeah, they traded Luca Doncic. Now with them training Luca Doncic, he's a six time first team all NBA selection. Do you think who is untradable in the NBA?

[Shannon Sharp]

Nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody can get it Wimy because once they traded Luca, the NBA was on notice, right? Everybody in the NBA was. They traded a guy 25 years old that was a five time first team all NBA selection, rookie. And he's a potential, he's all top five MVP selection every single year. And they moved it. Yeah, I'm not surprised by this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Everybody got the green light and so guess what?

[Joe Johnson]

They moved him. Why? Man, he on the second contract. That third contract gonna be 350, gonna be 400 million. He has some. Yeah, we know he's outstanding. Led the league in scoring again for the second time over 33. What? 30, 32, 33, 34 points a game. Yes, he's done that. But man, injuries are starting to creep up. There's some habits that he has, the working out habit. There are some habits that he got that you know you know, Ocho, I mean, look, he's a phenomenal talent. We're not taking that away from him. But to give 350 and it's kind of hard to get him to like, like the old mute. My grandma used to say, boy, can't get you like a mule. Can't get you to go. I mean, go or stop. If I. We can't get him to Gia hard. He's on a rookie contract or first and second contract. What the hell we gonna do when he get to 300, 350? Nothing.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not saying they should or they shouldn't have. I'm just training as a business as these owners, how they're thinking.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, and, and listen, but we all know Minnesota was looking for a point guard. Yes, they needed a point guard. They needed somebody who could control things. You, we, we've seen the double teams that Ant man was getting who could take some pressure off of them. And this is one. This is one guy who I definitely think gonna help. But I think for Minnesota, what they're really looking for, Uncle Ocho, is for Jaden McDaniels to take that next.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. That next step. Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

And he, he has to take that next step. I know we talk about it all the time and I tell you, he gonna need anywhere from a nice efficient 16 to 22, 24 points a night consistently, bro, for them to be effective and still be that. That defensive paralys like a Scottie Pippen type.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

They gonna need him to really turn the corner, you know, this upcoming season.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, and they're hoping that would Julius up out of there because when they passed the ball to Julius, like, man, who got the ball? You ain't getting it back. What if you get it back, it's gonna be with four seconds on the clock, bro. You had the ball 12 seconds and all you did was beep, beep, beep, beep, shoot a wild shot. And then look at the referee.

[Shannon Sharp]

They said, they said Julius Randall to Brooklyn, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they sent that man to Brooklyn and not for a first round. They traded him and a 28 pick in the first round for a second round pick. They trade, they. They traded that man for a 1974 Pinto.

[Shannon Sharp]

Right, right. I couldn't believe. Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, Joe. You know when you want to get rid of something, you don't care where they go. Oh, you don't have to care what that's like somebody giving up 4,500 million dollars to their ex on a divorce. Settlement. Do you really know how tired you must be if somebody said, Yeah, I got 500 million for you by. Yeah, yeah, I got a billion for you by. Yeah, I got a boy for you by. That's what they said. Yeah, we really don't want anything in return because think about it, for every Draymond Green and, and Nicola Jokic and Jalen Brunson, second round picks that turn out to be potent, well, we know Jokic is going to be a Hall of Famer, Draymond Green is trending in that direction. Two MVPs, a Defensive Player of the Year, four championships, and Jalen Brunson is what he's done. He's definitely trending in that direction. How many second round picks we actually, they gonna do something? I mean, yeah, you got way back when, when it was like four or five rounds, you had Willis Reed, if I'm not mistaken, the second round pick. But for the most part in the mock common draft, that ain't happening. So for them to give up a first round pick, even, even later, first round picks, basically you, you trying to get guys in the line. Look at the guys. That's one MVPs. Most of those guys are early round picks, at least top 10.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I, I, I'm, I'm not surprised. And considering how, how poorly Julius played against San Antonio and you know, you, you go ahead.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, you got, you got to get San Antonio credit now. They're a hell of a defensive team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know what I mean? I, I, I think you know. Now I know Julius didn't play, he didn't play his best ball against him, but it must have been some more than that.

[Joe Johnson]

Sure it is.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know what I mean? Because, because they got out the first round, you know, they was able, they was able to beat the Nuggets. I thought he played well in that series. It's just, man, you played against a hell of a team, a hell of a San Antonio team.

[Joe Johnson]

And the power forward you should be able to do, you should be able to have your way against Basell and Damn. And Castle. I'm sorry, Joe, as a 6, 9 power forward. Those are twos and threes that are guarding you in the post.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey, them boys playing big though. These ain't no regular two I gave. Listen, listen, listen. I understand what you saying, but these ain't no regular.

[Joe Johnson]

So you let it, you gonna let, you go. Let us see. You gonna let a six, two guard or two guard or a point guard, guard, you in the post. That's six, nine And a half. And you got Basel and you got Castle. And I know Castle is unbelievable, but that's the problem, Joe. That's the problem. They paying this man $35 million. You're. That's supposed to be your advantage.

[Tab Ramos]

Him.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, yeah. Especially when you hobble because. And marriage, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that. I understand that.

[Joe Johnson]

And then we cut. I think that's why, remember, Gordon was kind of hobbled in. In the first round against them. So now that would have been the matchup. So he had an advantage and he kind of took advantage of that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Now when Ant man is still kind of hobble, we paying you. You're supposed to be the difference maker. Remember, they traded Cat for you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. The boy just got him one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

Now they feel. Now they look like, oh, Lord, we traded. Oh,

[Shannon Sharp]

yeah, you gotta move on. Gotta move on.

[Joe Johnson]

And like you said. And my thing is, you hear about. Kobe said, go. You know, you get in, you go against bro, you, not Kobe. These guys gotta stop thinking, oh, Kobe saying this. And I appreciate Kobe in partaker. Rest your soul. Kobe in partaking wisdom on these guys. But the problem is these guys actually think they're Kobe.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, they. They got the mamba mentality.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, they. They think they have the mentality.

[Joe Johnson]

They got king snake. They got brown snake, no venom. See, what made the black mamba so deadly is that the black mamba isn't the most toxic snake in the world.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a crate. That's a west. That's a inland taipan. That's a common brown there. There are probably two or three at the. The viper. Maybe the gaboon viper or the. The Russell's viper has more toxic in Africa than the mamba. But the mamba is one of the few snakes that will bite without provocation. He looking for a problem. Kobe didn't need any reason to do something bad to you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

So. So that's what I'm saying. People like the black. No. Black mama is not even close to being one of the most toxic snake in the world. And now they don't start crossing snakes to get even more toxicity. You bleeding out of anything that has a hole, you bleeding out of it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, if you got a pet snake, John, I do not want to come over your house

[Joe Johnson]

if it's venomous.

[Shannon Sharp]

Snakes and spiders.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you. You scared of snakes and spiders, boy?

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't play with no snakes.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know what they have on me when I see you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When I see you, Joe.

[Shannon Sharp]

All right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I love me Some. Some spider. You know, in high school, they used to call me arachnophobia.

[Shannon Sharp]

Nah. Yeah, because you just get down on all folds and get busy.

[Tab Ramos]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

See how you done went left field.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

It.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho was talking about arachnophobia, which is spider. And so now we talk about it's. Oh, you get out of office. Come on, Joe. Where you going with this?

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Y' all gotta chill, bro. Y' all can't be trying. Stop. Stop trying to point like one of them little kids in class. See, see is him. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Spiders and snakes, and you talking about getting on forward, trying to get busy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Cause that man said he. Arachnophobia.

[Joe Johnson]

So that is the fear of spiders. An arachnid, huh? Yes, that is the fear of spiders.

[Shannon Sharp]

What do you say?

[Uncle Ocho]

They used to call me arachnophobia.

[Joe Johnson]

Phobia. You know exactly what he's saying. Y' all see, Ocho, and I've been trying to tell y'. All, I said I ain't never been number one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, hey, I'm just. I'm just here. Joe, that. That's between Joe and Joe. Joe done took over.

[Shannon Sharp]

Chad. Chad. Anytime somebody is in denial, like the way these boys be, that's how you know they number one. Because they can't wait to try and deflect and put something.

[Uncle Ocho]

We're not deflecting. We're showing you that your innocence is not who you truly are.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, y', all check them out. Chad, go ahead. Keep going.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't worry, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I put. Joe, I'm a police officer.

[Shannon Sharp]

Go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

I pulled you over for speeding. You got me side the road talking about what about all those other cars? Look how fast I said, well, you know what, Joe? If I had to pull you over, I could have got one of them. But I got you side the road, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's.

[Shannon Sharp]

You. What?

[Joe Johnson]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharp]

Maybe had.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho said what he said, what you said, we could have pointed out, but you said that we talking about spiders. Ocho said they used to call you boy Arachnophobia, which is the fear of spider, is an arachnid. Yeah, you talk about. Yeah. Cause you. He was on all four, getting busy. It's like, where did this come from?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I must have. Well, I must have. I probably missed her.

[Joe Johnson]

You heard exactly right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Did at the past four shows in a row.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Went all the way in left field.

[Shannon Sharp]

And who's counting? Listen, we counting.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you quick to point it on me, man. I told you, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, Ocho. Wait, man, Me, Chad, we already know y' all big freaks. Ain't nobody listen. The thing is, y' all think it don't make y' all no bad brothers, man. We still like y' all the same. Ain't nobody judging y'. All. We just know what it is.

[Joe Johnson]

No, the Bible teaches us. Judge you not least you be judged. So that is, we. We just free.

[Shannon Sharp]

That what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

But. But it's the fact that you. You quit, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you say you was hell when you. Well, hey, so we know now. Hey, I. So Joe didn't play back in the day. That's what I'm.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharp]

Listen, listen. I know this man. If he claiming he was any type of insect or anything, that mean he was doing something freaky. That's just who he is.

[Joe Johnson]

This man say from a freaky. This man said free because the man said he was an insect. He had to be doing something freaky.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. You know, get your mind out the gutter, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Y' all see this? Y' all see this?

[Shannon Sharp]

All right, Chad, my bad. My bad, Chad. My bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

You damn right. It's so bad. It ain't your.

[Shannon Sharp]

I' ma chill. I' ma chill.

[Joe Johnson]

It's too late now. It's too late.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Said damage already done.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's been done.

[Shannon Sharp]

Damn it. Damn it. Hey, you know what? Damn it. Call me. What you want. Y' all want me to be number one? Damn it. I'll be number one. Damn. Damn. I'm number one. I'm number one. I'll be number one.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe. Now, I. I think.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Chat. I think I know what happened. Well, I think I know to get that heat, to get the heat up off him, Joe might have set me up with the video. Joe might have set me up with the tape.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

He. He might have sent somebody to infiltrate us. Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

I. I think so, man.

[Tab Ramos]

Listen.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hold on. You think my character gives off that type of vibe?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, for sure, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

We may. Hey, hey. We might be a little shisty in the way we move sometime, but Shady, I wouldn't say.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, start with an S. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Like. Like we owe you something. If we owe you some money or something, we may not pay you. You know that type.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You owe me still.

[Shannon Sharp]

I. I had done forgot about all that. My bad. Yeah, but that's okay, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Like you said, you being number one. I still look at you the same I think you as. You're as clutch as an NBA player that they've ever created.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

A big shot taker. A big shot make.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

That's you. So anything outside of that, you taking and making big shots, I still hold you in high regard.

[Uncle Ocho]

Same. Same over here, Joe, huh? Hey, I don't look at you no different. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharp]

Listen, y' all will be number one. I'd be number one. Just for the night, I'll be number one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's you, Cook.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you know what? Hey. It's so bad. He's so delusional. He the type that need therapy. He need counseling.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

He don't even realize it. He the type need to be in like them AA classes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Alcoholic. But you're out there drinking. Six in the morning, you drink at 12 in the afternoon, then you drink it again at night. That's what.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what Joe is going to the clay. He go to the. The freak anonymous. I'm ISO. Joe Johnson and I'm a freak. And people clap for him. He's like, well, hell, y'. All. I'm gonna stay up. Y' all was supposed to move. But hell, once y' all started clapping, I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.

[Shannon Sharp]

Listen, listen. Hey, I can't believe you Ocho here tonight acting like that, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

My light went off, man.

[Joe Johnson]

It's all good. Like I said that. That don't. That don't make you no bad, brother. And I think I hate. Look, I. I think the thing is with Nas Reed going to Charlotte, because there's two. The two parts of this. A big guy that can stretch the floor. Oh, yeah, he's another stretch guy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, they got guys that's gonna be able to shoot the COVID off the ball. Brandon Miller can shoot the three, but he can elevate. He can finish above the rim. Knipple. We know the most threes by rookie in NBA history. He can shoot it. He's only going to get better. Yeah, I like Kobe White. He can shoot the three. He got great handles. He can penetrate. Hey, these sh. Look the East. And then like I said, they, they, they, they. They beat Miami. Ended up losing, I think ended up losing to Orlando.

[Shannon Sharp]

Orlando. They.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They might.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm not.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, obviously they're not no serious contenders. They. I don't. This move does not put them above the Knicks, and I don't think it puts them above Detroit and some of the other teams. I think what Miami doing what they did. I don't Think that puts them above Miami. But I. I think they can cause some problems because like you said, Joe the other night after the all star break, they had one of the best records in the NBA.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's definitely playing great ball.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, they playing great ball. So I think they added some great pieces. I get. I. I guess what they gonna do with Miles Bridges. I think Ocho, because if you bring over big boys. Nas Reed, I think it's time. I think it's time for Bridge. I think it's time for him to get paid.

[Joe Johnson]

He's on expiring contract a little under 23 million a year. That makes him very, very enticing right to someone because they only have one year on that contract. I don't. I don't think that could be. They keep him and he plays out of his mind because he can score. He's another dude bad. He get hot.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Oh yeah. He get it going. And you know what? I. I think what's underrated in this because Lamelo had great chemistry with those guys, bro. You talk about caniple the rookie year that he had. Lamelo had a lot to do with that, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

With.

[Shannon Sharp]

With him getting assists off of Congress Nipple, him getting assists off Brandon Miller. I just thought it was a great match. But obviously you weren't gonna be at the top of the damn east. So it's gonna be hard to pay a guy 300 some M. So go and get up off of him while he got some great value and some great years left in him. Because at least for the next two, three years here in Minnesota, they'll really get a chance to kind of see what they made of.

[Joe Johnson]

But you think, if you think about it, Joe, when you go. Going Back to Minnesota, Cat 7 Foot. Let him go. You trade. Let him go and you trade him for a six, nine and a half. Julius Randle, I don't know how tall nas reads. What, 6, 10, 6 11. You let him go. Now you're. You're kind of small now, Uncle Joe.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You kind of really smile.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. Six, four, six, four and a half. You got mellow six, seven. You got. Do you got Jaden Daniels? You got Rudy Gobert. Now they're going to need a big to back Rudy Gobert up because you're not getting. You're not getting offense for Rudy. Rudy is there to anchor your defense.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you're going to need points on the offensive end and you're going to need another. You probably need another Defender. And you just random what? No great defender, but I think you're going to, you're going to need some defensive guys. You got all those guys with offensive weaponry. Now that man gonna hold his own. Yeah, yeah, but Mello is really not a defender. And I don't. And I hadn't seen enough of the summer to see if he's read a really defender. We know Jane Jaden McDaniels and we know Rudy. Those are your defenders.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey, but we do know that the young buck, Terrence Shannon, who, who made his playoff debut, hey, he gonna be in the rotation this year, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I think, I think with Minnesota, because Rudy is a defensive big and the way he played against Denver, against Jokic, you know what I'm saying? The defense that he put on Jokic in that first round, bro, they helped him get out of that round. So you, you know, you got to try to hope if you do run into that problem again, he can kind of duplicate that type of performance. But man, when you play San Antonio, you play okc, man, your hands good, Joe, you're gonna have your hands full. But listen, when you got all those guys surrounded, you know, like they got Rudy, I just feel like your backup gonna have to be some type of a shooting threat on the ultra. You gotta have a big who can shoot the ball, bro, you know what I mean? To be able to mix up coverages and give. Give different looks. But those guys, ant man, Lamelo McDaniels, IO. Like two of those guys gonna. Damn, they gonna have to be special. They're gonna have to be pretty damn good on a night to night basis, you know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

And I think the thing is, if you look at teams that have bigs, the bigs are opposite of what, what the starter is. If you look at, look at cat, cat starts. But Rob Mitchell Robinson is totally different. You look at Wimby and Cornet is totally opposite. You look at Rudy Gobert, Nas Reed was totally opposite.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So you're gonna have to get somebody. I agree with you, Joe. You're gonna have to get somebody that's an offensive threat. You can't have two, you can't have two defensive threats at the big position.

[Shannon Sharp]

You. Cause listen, you already know what's gonna happen when you meet the cream of the crop. Meaning the spurs women be gonna be playing damn free safety and they defense gonna look elite. They defense gonna look elite because he. If your, if your five man ain't no threat. That's why the Knicks were able to win, bro, because Cat was such a threat. You know, if you're big, if your five can't shoot, yeah, your ass in trouble, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

The Wolves also discussed adding discussed Jalen Brown with the Celtics before trading Lamelo Part John Siznick Cross. I forgot, bro. I I you got this name I don't know what the Czyn Krasinski. Let's go with Krasinski. John Krasinski. Minnesota thought mellow as fitting more what they needed and far less compensation going out.

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, listen, if I'm JB Jalen Brown, I really don't give a damn what happened, okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

He got to be hurt, huh? Every time something come up, it's always his name that's in the conversation. And being traded. This ain't the first time I turned off news altogether.

[Joe Johnson]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharp]

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[Joe Johnson]

You know what, let's get to that topic. Boston sales are reportedly looking for a big man who are willing are looking for a big man and are willing to trade Jaylen Brown to acquire one per Chris Mannix. Boston continue to discuss JB trades on Tuesday, two sources familiar with talks tell Sports Illustrated. Many of the conversations were initiated by rival team. Sources say some were broken by the Celtics. They are hunting a big says rival executive and they're willing to trade JB to get it. This is the problem that I have. JB gets mad at Stephen A. JB gets mad at at places like Nightcap and others get mad at the Boston Celtics. You can't get mad at organizations for covering you being brought up because guess what, you arrived in Boston one year before Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum name has never come up in a trade when Boston were trying to acquire someone. Your name has constantly come up and everybody gets mad at Stephen A. People get mad at us for discussing it. Get mad at Boston for keep putting your damn name in trade discussions wanting to get off of you. It's not our fault that Boston Celtics organization view Jason Tatum more favorably than they view you. Every parent and don't let them lie to you have a favorite. Jayson Tatum is the Boston Celtics favorite. You get mad at everybody saying ain't nobody fans in Boston. Ain't nobody Trying to put JB and JT against each other. The Boston Celtics say, we feel Jason Tatum is better. We have this piece that is valuable, and we're willing to change. Trade Jalen Brown to acquire more. That is not conjecture. That is not innuendo. That is not speculation. That is fact. That's why Jason Tatum name doesn't appear. This ain't got nothing to do with anything else. Take Stephen A. I. I get it. Y' all upset Stephen A going back and forth. And I've had conversations with Stephen A. Bro, you don't need to do it. Stephen A. Is who he is. He gonna do what he want to do.

[Shannon Sharp]

He grown.

[Joe Johnson]

We all grown. But y' all can't get mad at Stephen A. Y' all need to get mad at Brad Stevens. Y' all need to get mad at the Boston Celtics organization for continuously putting this man in trade discussions. Not us for discussing it. Go ahead, Joe.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Nah. Hey, listen, I don't understand why they trying to get off JB so bad, Uncle Ocho, Because I just feel like him and Tatum, I mean, arguably, when they healthy, they the best duo in the Eastern Conference. You know what I mean? And unfortunately, you had to deal with some setbacks this season, which was Jason Tatum, one of your key guys. But, man, listen, I think jb, I think he is pissed off at the Celtics.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I think. I think he is pissed off at the Celtics as well. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, Joe, before you go any further, Ocho, before you change, let's talk to the sound. Jason, JB is in France. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Leader behind that was espn. ESPN is unethical. And Stephen A. Smith is the head face of that.

[Shannon Sharp]

That.

[Joe Johnson]

But, you know, the organization, the players, they were all in agreeance. They all knew what I meant by that. Our team was basically salary dumps. You know, we lost a lot of players. And for us to. To emerge and still be in the same position, we got to start to understand, like, success doesn't always mean so. In other words, the optics. Remember, he said. He said he felt that this was his best year. His best year. They got beat early. Optics is everything.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Optics is everything. Joe. If somebody's walking on the train, if I shove someone off the train tracks without the context of you knowing the train is coming, and I saved them. You're like, man, why shout y' all put that push that person on the train tracks?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They're looking at like, bro, you scored less, you rebounded less, you assisted less. And you won a championship in the year that you scored more, did X, Y and Z. You. You lost and you said that's your best season. It's just the optic. I knew what you were saying, but the options appeared until the Boston said, no, no, no. You said the Boston said, nope, nope. They didn't. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't. Your teammates might have. Yeah, the organization, the front office. That's what. Think about it. Here's a guy that's a Finals mvp, a Eastern Conference MVP just two years ago in every year, damn near who names comes up in a trade discussion. When it involves the Celtics. Is it jb, everybody else, Uncle Joe. What's that, Ojo?

[Uncle Ocho]

When it comes to players like that, that where the level of talent is almost equal, where you really can't go wrong depending on who you choose, some people might say Jalen Brown better. Some people might say Jason Tatum is better. But when it comes to the organization wanted to take someone on and the person that they rather. Rather have long term would be the safer pick. Jason. Jason Tatum. He's safe. There's no issues. There's no problems. You know, he's. I'm not going to say he's. He's. You don't hear from him much, you know, so.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hold on, hold on. So. So just because jb a little outspoken.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe, That's a little scary. Now organization.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.

[Joe Johnson]

I get it. You hit the nail on the head. Yes, yes. And I get it. I'm glad he brings light to attention to issues that are prevalent. Prevalent. I'm glad he's in the community. I'm glad he's trying to help the underprivileged, the black underprivileged community. I'm glad for that. But if you think teams like that, you're crazy.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

In Boston at that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey. It's one of the top sports cities

[Uncle Ocho]

not about controversy.

[Shannon Sharp]

No, that's a huge. That's a big. That's a huge market. They love they Celtics, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Yeah, they love them. They love Bill Russell with all that. But what did they do to his house? The greatest winner in sports history.

[Uncle Ocho]

They treated him what they do to his house.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you better read his book where I was in his house and defecated on his floor. Yeah. Bill Russell. They did that to him. Yes. He wrote in his book for the longest time. He never told anybody. Y' all better stop playing, you dead ass. But look, we don't. We don't we don't look, we don't need to really get into the history. And I think the thing is, is that sometimes Jalen Brown, as great as he is, when guys. Why you think they didn't like Ali?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He said, y' all want me to go fight Big Kong, but they ain't never turned no dogs on me. They ain't never put no water holes on me. They ain't never called me the N word. Yeah, y' all do that here, but you want to send me over there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, well, Ali was a trip boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. And that was Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Kareem was in college when he went to the Summit in Cleveland in 1967 to speak out against what they was doing to Muhammad Ali. He was there with Jim Brown and all those others. Go look at it. Historically. Historically, when guys have been outspoken that look like us and try.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, listen, if some teams can use this damn service. And I do think the Celtics are going to trade him. I'm talking about before the season. For show. For show. The name coming up in too many different. It's always situations.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, it's always. But I'm Joe. But help me understand why is he upset at the people talking about it. You need to go have that organ to talk with Brad Stevens. You can't get mad cause we cover it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharp]

it got out some way somehow.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, he know it coming from them. We know where it's coming from. The knock is always coming from inside the house. Always.

[Joe Johnson]

But the problem is Stephen A. Is low hanging fruit. You're letting the organization that keep putting your name in the trade discussions. They didn't say they would trade Jason Tatum for John Giannis. They didn't say. They didn't try to engage Minnesota with Jason Tatum. They didn't do that. All these trades, if you go back and study Boston over the last five, six years, anytime a trade has come available, whose name has been the first and foremost?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, his.

[Joe Johnson]

Jake Brown. Never Jason Tatum. But I'm just trying to figure out, look, I get it. He has this back and forth with Stephen A. And he felt Stephen A. Took personal shots and said why he's not marketable and why he's not this and why he didn't make the Olympic team. And he says, you got two guys that are on my team. That, that, that, that I'm Holiday and Derrick White and I didn't make the Olympic team. I get, I get all of that. I do. I really do. But I'm just saying. I just think his frustrations is pointing in the wrong direction. That is just me. I could be wrong. Joe, you might have a different opinion. Ocho, you might have a different opinion. Chat. You may have a different opinion, but you can't get mad that we're talking about something that your organization keep putting you. In fact, why you. Ocho, we talked about this. Why are you mad at how hard I hit your quarterback when y' all keep running his ass on quarterback powers and quarterback sneaks? If you don't value him, why should I? Yeah, if your organization keep putting you in trade discussions, why are you mad that we're talking about it and not mad at them for putting your ass in the trade discussion? It Right. That's all I'm saying.

[Uncle Ocho]

Would you like access to get him over there in Atlanta or. No,

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, we building out a great roster over here. Hey, listen, I think we. We love to have him over here. Oh, I ain't gonna lie to you. That'll put us at the top of the Eastern Conference.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know about the top, but I hear you, though.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I know one. I know one thing. Wherever you go, it's going to be motivating.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, with all the chirping that happened

[Uncle Ocho]

when Jason Tatum went down and they saying, well, the Celtics, they're not going to be in it. And what he was able to do with the Celtics and having at the number two seed and playing out his mind, same motivation, whatever drove him to do that, it's probably going to be time. It's going to be time. Time that, whatever, wherever else.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, listen, wherever he end up at, Uncle Ocho, he gonna win.

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[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, man, that boy gonna be so determined, hear me? He gonna be so determined and pissed off.

[Joe Johnson]

They won't ever say this, but I believe deep down they didn't think he could be this. Not what I. Tatum. Nah, they'll never say it, Ocho. They'll never say, we knew this. We knew that. Because if you knew this man would be this good, why the hell you put him in this kind of. Yo, y' all make it seem like a man.

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35.

[Joe Johnson]

He still can't be no more than, what, 29?

[Shannon Sharp]

Ish. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

With that being said, yeah, he just gave it 28, 29 points. 6 and 6. 6 and 5. Deep down inside, they didn't believe he could do this. That's why they unloaded everything and keep

[Shannon Sharp]

it and keep and keep and keep the ship afloat like that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why they traded everything. It Was like, hey, ain't no anal. We're not going anywhere. We're not going to do anything. So why should we keep Holiday? Why should we keep Brazingas? Why should we try to resign al Horford? Hey, JT's gonna be gone for at least this year. They probably didn't expect him to come back. He fought extremely hard to bring his ass back. Probably wish he would have said to make sure, because in Game seven. What was a Game seven? When they really needed him, he couldn't give you anything because it was sore, it was tender. Wish he had stayed out, but he wanted to come back. Hopefully it's. It's healthy now. He's had some time to rest. He can get back to training and be 1000% once the season starts. But Boston, y' all ain't fooling me. I know what y' all think of him. You tell me every time his name come up in a trade discussion and you moved all the pieces. The question is, it had been very interesting, and there's no way to definitively know if the roles were reversed. Are they getting off everybody? If Jason Tatum is 100 healthy, are they getting off everybody? We'll never know.

[Shannon Sharp]

Never know.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharp]

It's just hard to, man. I mean, with all the rumors going on this damn near. Given that he gonna get traded. But it's just, man, it's so hard to break them two up, bro. Like, how you get to the mountaintop with these two and.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Shannon Sharp]

And because of an injury, you know what I mean? It kind of. It kind of sets you back to the point you ready to give. You willing to get rid of jb, who has been consistent on both ends of the floor. If you don't have him, you don't beat the damn Mavericks. The way he picked up Luca, full court, 94ft, and going at him offensively and defensively the way he was, bro, like, his value is high. I bet this team, boy, look, they on the phone right now. They on the phone right now trying to figure it out.

[Joe Johnson]

But the thing is. But here's the thing, Joe. He got a 300 he's due for. He's due, I think, this year you can give him a two year, 140 million extension. He got 300. You can add another two years for 142. You trying to do that right now, Joe. Now, see, I tell you how you turn your head. That's my. No, you trying to do that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Listen.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I see the way you lick your lips. You say it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. It only take one team.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, but that team you go to, hey, Joe, you. Hey, that's important. Now, you going from Boston, where you go from there?

[Shannon Sharp]

But listen, listen. You know the value this young man gonna bring, bro? Yeah, he outspoken, but damn it, when he hit the flow, he gonna be competing, playing at the highest level, bro. Are you kidding me?

[Joe Johnson]

What? Joe? Ocho, before you go, what did. What was reported that came out of Milwaukee. Why wouldn't they do a one for one deal with draft picks? What did, what did Jimmy Haslam say? We felt maybe in a year he would be unhappy and we'd be right back to square one.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So are you sure, Joe?

[Shannon Sharp]

That means. Hey, but that's, that's, that means, hell, they ain't. They weren't willing to give him no extension.

[Joe Johnson]

That also means people are leery. Is he gonna be happy, bro? Yeah, you're all star, you're all NBA selection, you're finals mvp. It seems to what's enough. Because if you listen to him talk, he feels he doesn't get the credit that he deserves. Even though being an all NBA, being an all star, being a Finals mvp, being an instant conference mvp, he feels that's not enough. He's like, well, I knew I was gonna be first team all NBA. I mean, I mean, you can only have five.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, y' all got jb Ben. He going for MVP of the league next year. I don't know, on whatever damn team he on. Watch, this boy gonna go crazy out here, I'm telling you.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question though, Joe. If he feels that they don't like him, how you gonna get voted mvp?

[Shannon Sharp]

His, his play gonna have to do that. He knows that. He know he gonna have to have out of this world damn numbers. I'm talking about on a night to night basis, he gonna have to be in the 30s as far as points. Yeah, he gonna have to be getting to it. Ain't no question. Ain't no question. But he got to have undeniable numbers to where when you see him, you like. Oh yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't missing undeniable numbers. He will have to because Shay's gonna have 30 plus and win 60 plus game. Yogi's gonna have a triple double and win 55 plus games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Wimpy's gonna have outstanding numbers and win the high 50s, low 60 plus games. Giannis is gonna have 30 and 10. So Luca is gonna put up 33 34, 35 points.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So unless he plans on putting up 32, putting up 30 plus points, and his team win at least 55 games, how you gonna win MVP, Joe?

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, listen, he gonna do exactly what I'm talking about. It's gonna be a fun season. Hell, yeah. He gonna put up about it. He gonna be trying to. That man gonna be trying to put up 35, but I don't know if

[Joe Johnson]

that's gonna be conducive to winning.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I get. I get it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I get that.

[Shannon Sharp]

I get that. But what I'm saying, he's.

[Uncle Ocho]

He.

[Shannon Sharp]

He has all these accolades now. He's won an NBA title in Finals mvp. Like, I can see him coming into it, coming into the season. No matter what team he's on, bro, trying to be the best player in

[Joe Johnson]

the league, but the problem he's gonna go to is bad.

[Shannon Sharp]

They may not be bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

It has to be a team that have the assets to even get him, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

I've been. I've been seeing him with the Rockets. I've been seeing him with the Spurs. I've been seeing them. I've seen them with Minnesota. I'm saying the teams I've been seeing it with. Cause listen, if you gonna send a guy like that off, yeah, you want some damn good in return. So he. I don't think he gonna go to none of these Rudy Poo teams, bro. I'm telling you, he had all of those.

[Joe Johnson]

He won't praise and adulation, because guess what he had, Joe? He had.

[Shannon Sharp]

What's that?

[Joe Johnson]

All Star Games. He had Finals mvp, he had Eastern Conference mvp, and he still couldn't get on the Olympic roster.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, man, you know what that was about, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm. You making my point. That's what he wants. Listen, we all.

[Shannon Sharp]

We all know at the end of

[Joe Johnson]

the day, Joe, don't you want to be desired? Don't you want to hear your lady say, baby, I got you, babe. I love you. Boy, you. I sure appreciate you coming along. Get you, girl. That's what he wants.

[Shannon Sharp]

All right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what. That's what he wants. He won't. He wants you tell me that, but you don't show me that. You show Jason Tatum that you love him. You show Jason Tatum that you want him. You've never showed me just how much I mean to you. Like you've shown JT and that's what he wants.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, jb. JB is moving on his own time, okay? Ocho, you see his shoe deal? He got his own Damn shoe. That's why he got left off the damn USA team here. It's all Nike now. Who you with? We don't even know. We don't even know who they is. Yeah, that's why he got left off. So he wants to do his own thing, bro, you know what I mean? And I think these are some of the hoops that he gonna have to jump through, you know what I mean? But I think ultimately it's gonna make him a better player, bro. You know, he'll have a story to tell.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a phenomenal player. I mean, he could get better. I mean, I don't know how. I mean, he gave you 29. He gave you 29, 6 and 5. I don't know what you want to give. You want. I don't know if I, if I look at it any differently. If he gives me 30, 37 and 7. I ain't looking at him anytime. I know what he can do. Yeah, he's a two way player. He can play outstanding. He might be a better all around player than Jayson Tatum. When you consider everything, right, the defensive end and the offensive end.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't know, man. Tatum got that, that six, nine frame. Okay, Ocho, 610 here. I ain't gonna lie. The boy, the boy. Tall.

[Tab Ramos]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hear me? But not only is he tall, see, the difference is Tatum. He's such a great score. He has a great feel for the game. He's patient, you know what I'm saying? He made guys around him better. JB going out getting 30. He ain't trying to hear all that, you know, I mean, like, he gonna, he gonna get right to it. Just keeping it 100, you know what I mean? JB gonna get right to it. Yeah, I'm gonna. Yeah. I might find you over there in the corner if you open, you know, I mean, but for the most, I'm gonna. I'm getting me buckets. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What I mean, I'm trying to think where you could send him. And I'm thinking, does Orlando have the pieces? What if you put him and Ban Carroll together?

[Shannon Sharp]

Put Jalen Brown with Bank Carroll. They don't really move the needle for me for Orlando because they guard play. I like, I like black. I know he was hurt, but they definitely didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

They guard play is awful. I mean, Suggs. Suggs is not. He's a tremendous defense. He's not enough of an offensive threat to do anything because. So down now. I'm coming quick to double him. I'm coming quick to Double Bank Carroll and Franz Wagner being out, he's another big. That can stretch the four. He can put the ball on the floor. He can shoot the three.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, yeah, I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

Orlando doesn't have the guard play that really. That really like.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Or I think Orlando could do it this year if they had better guard play. I might be willing to give them the benefit of the. The doubt, but I just can't with. With the guard play that they have.

[Shannon Sharp]

And then. But you gotta think if you add JB to any of these teams, okay? Oo, hell, who you taking off? You know you gonna take off a key guy off one of these teams. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know if. I don't know if what you call him has the assets. I don't know if, if, if. Because they really got but two players that you really want. Wagner and. And. And Banko. And I'm not so sure Orlando is willing to give up any of those guys. They damn sure ain't giving up Band.

[Shannon Sharp]

Nah, hell no. Hell no. So I don't know, man. I think it's getting worked out as we speak, though. I think we're gonna see this JB in a new uniform. Hopefully it's a Hawks uniform. Boy, we get. If we get him and Jalen Johnson. Oh, oh, you can come on home. Come on, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

As who winning this poll, man? They got it. They got.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh? Man, you. You won. You was in first place.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, come on, now. Come on, man. Don't do that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ocho was in second

[Uncle Ocho]

if anything on that poll. I know I'm third. I could take.

[Shannon Sharp]

Listen, y' all can play crazy. Y' all can play crazy all y' all want to, but I tell y' all who ain't crazy. Me and Chad. Me and Chad ain't crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell, we can see. Oh, you must be being you and Chat. GPT. Cause this is a bull job.

[Shannon Sharp]

Me and Chat right here. Me and. Me and the.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ash, who won,

[Shannon Sharp]

man?

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, One.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wait, what you mean? I won. I won.

[Shannon Sharp]

What the freaking man line?

[Uncle Ocho]

The chat. The chat got up. They got a short memory, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, Chat ain't crazy, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't went 40. What's that? 48?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ocho wanted 48,

[Shannon Sharp]

Man. Listen, listen. Oh, oh, now here y' all go. Oh, now y' all pity the fool that now y' all missed the teeth.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe like a politician, boy. He got out. He got all the people food.

[Shannon Sharp]

Chad. Chad. Y' all see how they try to jump on me? Chat, Tika. Cause they. They. Man, everybody knows all that. That what I'm trying to tell you. I don't even know why y' all be acting. How y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All you make a great politician, boy. The way you lie, boy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, just because if you just be cool with people, we wouldn't even really be talking about like that. Nobody tripping on you being the freakiest dude out the cre.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't what it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

It ain't what it is.

[Joe Johnson]

You got a fool. I give you credit. You done a great job of fooling the people. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey,

[Shannon Sharp]

We know the greatest thing the

[Joe Johnson]

devil ever pulled was convinced the world he didn't exist. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled.

[Uncle Ocho]

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