Nightcap Hour 1: Jaylen Brown & Joel Embiid AT ODDS?! + MVP Year LOADING for Ant Man?!

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 1: Jaylen Brown & Joel Embiid AT ODDS?! + MVP Year LOADING for Ant Man?!

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Sean"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson
Date: July 14, 2026
Episode Focus:
Instant, unfiltered reactions to top NBA storylines, player chemistry, and personalities—including the buzz around Jaylen Brown and Joel Embiid’s relationship, team dynamics after blockbuster trades, and speculation about Anthony Edwards’ ("Ant Man") MVP trajectory.

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Overview

This episode centers on the NBA off-season’s biggest personalities and moves, focusing on the headline story of the rumored silence between new Philadelphia 76er Jaylen Brown and incumbent star Joel Embiid. The crew dives into what real chemistry looks like for star teammates, recalls stories of player communication protocols in pro sports, and pivots to breaking down the Minnesota Timberwolves’ chances of ascending behind Anthony Edwards and their new core.

The hosts use personal stories, on-the-ground insights, and trademark banter to unpack the human side of high-stakes pro basketball—questioning whether lack of contact signals deeper issues or just off-season noise. They also highlight what makes an MVP-caliber season and debate what it takes for new teammates to click.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jaylen Brown and Joel Embiid: Are They Really at Odds?

Segment Start: [08:31]

• Report: Tracy McGrady (T-Mac) claims on a stream that Jaylen Brown hasn’t spoken to Embiid (but has spoken to Tyrese Maxey and others) following his trade to Philly.
  • “I don't think he hasn't spoken to Embiid yet.” – T-Mac ([08:40])
• Panel Reactions:
  • Uncle Sean is skeptical: “I don’t like that.” ([09:09])
  • Ochocinco: Downplays the significance, attributing silence to off-season travel and downtime; contact isn’t always immediate or meaningful in this context ([09:35], [10:16]).
  • Joe Johnson: Agrees, but emphasizes professionalism: “Maybe I have said some things and I still believe them to be true, but hell, we're on the same team now.” ([10:23])
  • Consensus: Easy to read too much into lack of early contact, but quick communication is standard SOP at superstar level ([11:24]).

Notable Quote:

“A lack of communication can lead to a real misunderstanding, fellas.” — Joe Johnson ([13:14])

Banter & Storytelling:

• Ocho shares his own story of joining the Patriots and seeing Tom Brady only upon arrival ([12:21]).
• Joe jokes about past personal beefs getting “water under the bridge” when you’re gunning for the same championship ([10:43], [12:08]).

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2. Team Chemistry, Protocol, and Positional Friendships

Segment: [11:24]–[16:04]

• Uncle Sean: Seeks panel input on what’s normal for superstars changing teams—should the franchise player always extend the olive branch?
• Joe Johnson: Clarifies—it’s normal protocol for the incumbent star to reach out, at least with a welcome message ([11:56]).
• Ochocinco: In the pros, quick trades and late arrivals alter expectations; sometimes you just see new teammates when the work starts.
• Sharp Analysis: Today’s teams rely on “positional friendships”—relationships built around mutual ambition, not lifelong bonds. “We're teammates now. Let's not lose sight of that.” ([16:04])

Notable Quote:

“Just because you're teammates...you don't have to like each other. You're there to win a championship.” — Ochocinco ([16:09])

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3. College Memories & the Black College (HBCU) Experience

Segment: [29:28]–[41:55]

• The hosts pivot to share college stories—talking about camaraderie, campus traditions, and the unique energy of HBCUs.
• Uncle Sean: Recalls helping (and sometimes discouraging) recruits ([22:29]) and reinforcing bonds among teammates.
• Ochocinco: Expresses emotional regret at missing out on the HBCU experience, celebrates his daughter’s Prairie View A&M graduation ([34:51], [35:02]).
• Emphasis on how deeply rooted team bonding and social networks shape an athlete’s life and outlook.

Notable Moment:
Ocho confesses his long-time love for FAMU’s band and how he’d train in Tallahassee just to watch band camp, highlighting the culture around HBCUs ([40:16]).

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4. Anthony Edwards’ MVP Potential and the Timberwolves’ Evolution

Segment Start: [47:31]

• Context: Coach Chris Finch says Ant Man looks “engaged in a way like I’ve not seen”—pushing for an MVP-type season with new teammate LaMelo Ball.
• Joe Johnson: Breaks down basketball on-court chemistry:
  • LaMelo’s unselfishness and high basketball IQ will elevate Edwards, creating easier scoring opportunities so Ant doesn’t have to work as hard ([48:12]–[49:39]).
  • Predicts LaMelo will rack up assist-heavy games, sometimes score big, complimenting Ant’s playing style.
  • “They complement one another ... both so electric, box office and can play, bro.” ([49:39])
• Uncle Sean: Ant now has a more dynamic scorer by his side than ever before—defenses can’t focus solely on him ([49:39]).
• X-Factors: Team’s success also hinges on McDaniels’ offensive leap and Rudy Gobert’s presence as rim-protecting anchor ([51:14]).
• Comparison: Jokingly breaks down past Timberwolves’ issues with Julius Randle’s fit and the offense stalling when the ball sticks, emphasizing the importance of playmakers who can pass out of double teams ([53:08]).

Notable Quotes:

• “The most underrated attribute a cat can have in basketball is being able to pass the damn ball.” — Joe Johnson ([54:00])
• “Why you think Jokic is so dominant?” — Uncle Sean ([54:33]), to which everyone agrees about the value of bigs who pass.

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5. What Makes a Big Man Special?

Segment: [54:54]–[55:56] and [66:30]–[67:21]

• Extended analysis on dominant bigs—Shaq, Jokic, Olajuwon—the distinction between brute force and finesse, and how the modern NBA values passing bigs.
• Brief digression into how Giannis can be “walled off” by defenses lacking a go-to move outside the paint ([56:28]–[58:10]).
• Humorously, the hosts lament the lost art of the Kareem “skyhook”—“Ain’t nobody even practicing that no more.” ([67:04])

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6. Entertaining the Fans: Sport as Performance

Segment: [66:30]–[68:13]

• Hosts reflect on the entertainment value of stars like Jordan, Magic, and Shaq, arguing that style and personality are key to sports’ enduring appeal.
• “If Jordan just laid the ball up, were you gonna be just entertained? It was that tongue hanging out ...” — Uncle Sean ([66:30])
• “That's why it's hard to resonate with bigs unless you like Shaq breaking down the backboard ...” ([66:46])

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7. Speculation & Insider Banter: What's Next for the NBA?

Segment: [58:16]–[59:41]

• Ochocinco doubles down on rumored moves—hinting at LeBron possibly coming to the Heat and reflecting on his inside access:

  “When I say something on here on Nightcap, I know y'all think I'd be lying. ... I'd be in the room with the people that's making the moves.” ([58:59])

• He also boasts about calling the Giannis-to-Miami move, hinting at the panel’s behind-the-scenes knowledge and laughing about “sources.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “A lack of communication can lead to a real misunderstanding, fellas.” — Joe Johnson ([13:14])
• “You're not there for a relationship. You're there to win a championship ... If we happen to be friends... all for it.” — Ochocinco ([16:09])
• “The most underrated attribute a cat can have in basketball is being able to pass the damn ball.” — Joe Johnson ([54:00])
• “That's why Biggs. That's why it's hard to resonate with Biggs unless you like Shaq breaking down the backboard.” — Uncle Sean ([66:46])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jaylen Brown & Embiid News/Reaction: [08:31]–[16:04]
• Teammate Communication/Positional Friends: [16:04]–[18:00]
• College and HBCU Stories: [29:28]–[41:55]
• Anthony Edwards MVP Talk: [47:31]–[54:00]
• Big Men & Team Construction Discussion: [54:00]–[58:10]
• Insider Moves, Giannis & LeBron Speculation: [58:16]–[59:41]
• Sport as Entertainment/Jordan’s Style: [66:30]–[68:13]

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Summary & Final Takeaways

Nightcap delivers its signature blend of player-driven storytelling and candid debate, exploring how much off-season drama really matters once the games start. The episode reassures that chemistry is built over time—and that winning trumps buddy-buddy vibes for elite squads. Fans get a rare window into the unwritten rules of locker room relationships, the culture shock of college sport, and what truly separates a potential MVP in today’s NBA.

If you’re seeking deep dives into superstar mindsets and what drives winning culture—on the court, in the locker room, and beyond—this episode is a must-listen.

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Transcript

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[Sports Analyst 1]

JB was on a stream the other day and he reached out to Maxi, talked to Maxi and he talked to bj, but I don't think he hasn't spoken to Embiid yet.

[Uncle Sean]

So.

[Sports Analyst 1]

And you know, they had their thing in past years, you know, personal, you know, thing going on now. They're teammates and I don't think there's been a conversation between the two, at least not to my knowledge. I haven't heard anything on it. So that's not a good sign because when you go into a new team and you go into a team that this, this is the mvp, like you've been the MVP for this team. Now I'm coming to join your team and we haven't had a conversation that's. I don't like it.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You know what I mean? Because we, we all trying to, we're getting off to a fresh start. Joel, you're getting off to a fresher start, right? And now you add in another MVP along with the young boys that you

[Uncle Sean]

have to make things easier for you.

[Sports Analyst 1]

To make things easier for you. And there hasn't been any communication as far as my knowledge.

[Uncle Sean]

Joe, this is your level of go Ahead, Ocho.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey. Hey, Joe. I know you probably. I'm from a football sense, you know, when new players are coming in, especially on new receivers that are veterans coming from other teams, especially when it's the off season, I don't put too much into it as far as the communication goes. Obviously most of the players are off right now. They're traveling there with families. I wouldn't put too much into it, Joe. And un. Maybe you guys may feel different about it. Even though a conversation needs to be had. Listen, welcome to the team. Maybe something like that. I think something a little bit more formal in person. You know, you guys see each other, but just saying, hey, welcome to the team as far as right now, especially why everyone's out doing their own thing is eh, it's.

[Tab Ramos]

It's.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It's, eh. If I hear from you, it's okay. If I don't, I see when it's time to play ball and it matters most. But Joe, you might feel different.

[Joe Johnson]

I kind of agree with you, Ocho. I feel like, you know, if they did have anything, you know, riff raffle between each other, that's water under the bridge. Now, fellas, maybe I have said some things and I still believe them to be true, but hell, we're on the same team now.

[Uncle Sean]

Is it water under the bridge?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean.

[Uncle Sean]

I mean, Tyler Hero thought it was water under the bridge too. He said that months ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but, but what? Hey, uncle, how's it going?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. But what I'm saying, listen, we're on the same team now. I may have said something about you flopping.

[Tab Ramos]

Cool.

[Joe Johnson]

You still do. I still think you're a hell of a player, but now that I'm here. Listen, man, let's come together, man. I. I ain't tripping. Maybe they have talked since that interview, but I'm like, ocho, Uncle, I don't really put a whole lot of stock into that, bro. I just feel like embiId knows what JB stands for. You, you know, what type of shape he gonna be in, you know the mindset he's gonna come with. You're gonna have to match that energy, partner, if y' all trying to do something in the Eastern Conference.

[Uncle Sean]

What is. What is standard protocol? I'm not talking about the eighth man on the bench. I'm talking about a bona fide, a finals mvp, a Eastern Conference mvp, an all NBA selection, a multiple, multiple, multiple time all Star. What is standard protocol of a guy of that caliber going to a team and the best player From Santee or one of the best players from said team. What is normal protocol? Is it normal? Standard opera. Hey. Standard operating procedure. Sop. What is standard, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh. Oh, no, no, no. I ain't gonna sit here and act like it ain't normal. Now, normally, if you get a guy that caliber. Now, if you get a guy that caliber, the first thing you know, you hit him. Hey, bro. Welcome to the squad.

[Uncle Sean]

Boom.

[Joe Johnson]

We about to make something shake. You feel me? We got to be on the same page.

[Uncle Sean]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We gonna get together here soon. I know you going through blasey this, blase that, but, yeah, it should have been already handled. But he talked to the young guns already, huh? Yeah, maybe.

[Uncle Sean]

He probably. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. When you went. When you went to New England, did Tom reach out to you? Yes or no?

[Sports Analyst 2]

No. I saw him once. I got to the. Once I got to the stadium, because he didn't have. He didn't have my number.

[Uncle Sean]

Okay? Yeah, he could have got that. He could. I mean, Belichick had it, so he could have got that.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah. And me and Bill, you know, me and Bill had a relationship long before I got there, right?

[Sports Analyst 1]

Correct.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Me and Bill was really close. And another thing. What if Embiid is still upset, and then B, swing on Jalen Brown when he get there?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, chill, bro. Chill. This ain't what Houston came to. You know what I mean? Listen, we had a little mishap. They see one thing about it, A lack of communication can lead to a real misunderstanding, fellas. You hear me? And that's what.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Joe. You ain't just gonna throw that out there like that. Let me write that down, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll go ahead and take your time. Take your time. I'm running it back for the people in here. I'm gonna it back. I'm gonna run it back.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Use that in my next argument.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna run it back. A lack of communication can lead to a misunderstanding, man. That's all it was. But hey, hey, hey, hey. Bam just had to get some straightening. Just get a little straightening. Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

You. You see what I'm saying? Oh, hey, Chad. Y' all see how Joe circle back on that? We had done left Bam and Tyler hero long ago.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, look, look, I kind of. I kind of. I kind of feel Bam in a sense. You know what I mean? It's like, yes, Ocho been doing all that talking about me, and think when he see me, and they gonna be Kiki Ki ye.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, Bam. Say, hey, Bam. Say Tyler hero. Guitar hero. Hey, Hogan's Hero Pop 5. 1, 2, 3, 4. Yeah, take that with you.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Listen, Tyler Hero, man, that.

[Tab Ramos]

That's.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That's my dog, man. That's my homeboy. I'm sure there was a misunderstanding. He said some things that he probably thought weren't going to get out publicly. I'm sure.

[Uncle Sean]

Of course, he screenshot it from the dm. Somebody screen. He tweeted that he. He did that in the dm. Somebody screenshotted it and sent it out.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm. I'm sure. I'm not sure if he tried to apologize no entire hero the way I do. I'm sure he tried to apologize and probably Bam really wasn't going for it and one thing led to another. I hope cooler heads have prevailed now. And they probably talked it. Talked it out and I'm sure Tyler hero apologized and Bam probably do the same. Did the same thing. Listen, you move forward, we move forward and we play ball.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Uncle Sean]

that would be something that would be better ask of John, because I know that when they brought players to the team, I, I wouldn't. I wouldn't call anybody. Ain't nobody. Look, I've always had two phones and you ain't getting the main line. That was for kids, you know, that was for very, very select, select group of people. That being said, like I said, Joe, that would be something that you would. I mean, because quarterbacks, I'm sure you could. You hear I've already talked. You know, when Joe Burrow or you hear Patrick Holm, they already say, I've already talked to Patrick. I've already talked to Joe. I've already talked to Trav. I've already talked to this guy. So I just wanted to know what was standard operating procedure, because that's not something that I've been in. When we bring in players, you bring you, hey, I'll see you when I get to a mini camp or training camp or something of that level. So that's why I'm asking you guys, because I've never. I me personally, I've never bringing in. I mean, I really. You never brought anybody I really knew. And at that point in time, it's kind of like today, guys, I understand. I'm a position friend. We're friends because the position I'm in, you're my friend because of the position you're in. This day, the days of you got somebody Ocho that you grew up with in high school, Joe, you grew up with high school in college. We're what we call positional friends now. We're friends because of the position that we're in. See, let's not make it more complicated than what it is. We're teammates, Najo. We're teammates now. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Let's not lose sight of that. Okay? So there, you know. Hey, that's my dog. Yeah, what up, dog?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, I'm glad you said that, too. Just because your teammates. Uncle Joe, you don't have to like each other. No, you're not there for a relationship. You're there to win a championship or to do everything you can to win a championship. And everyone has to pull their own weight. That's all it is. Now, if we happen to be friends and build a relationship because we're happen to be on the same team.

[Uncle Sean]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

All for it. That's. That's fine and dandy and no. And to answer your question, now that I think about it, remember, I got traded to the Patriots real late, right before the season started.

[Uncle Sean]

Okay?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Tom didn't have time to call me because when they got traded, I had to be in New England in 24 hours.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Tom won't call. You know damn well. You fall in line, you get these damn orders. I'm throwing the balls. Don't worry about it. Yeah, he was here, but he wasn't calling. You know damn way.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something. When you get to New York, you gonna fall in line, too, because I'm g. Damn.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, man, look here, man. Joe. I mean, Joe might change. Joe might have a change of heart and bring his girl. Don't beat him up.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, come on, come on.

[Uncle Sean]

You gotta chill.

[Joe Johnson]

You got chill.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, you might. You might be on to something because in order for him to go to Houston, I think he had to bring her here. So you know how it is when you want to go somewhere, you want to do nice things. You want to do nice things for your girl, so she make you go.

[Uncle Sean]

You see the league, you see what I can. We got. We got an official.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, chat, chat, chat. Y' all see, we can't even have a civil show.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Matter of fact, we might. We might want to get that laminated so it can't get.

[Uncle Sean]

Okay, okay. No problem. No problem whatsoever. We always try to be. We try to do things official. We don't Ever won't think anything is shade tree or it's rigged. You know what I'm saying? I mean, hey, this is an official document.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to see how in the hell we go from Jalen Brown to My permission slip. That's what I'm trying to say. That ain't no case.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It all coincides.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, listen, listen, listen, listen. Back to the Jalen Brown thing. Yes, I, I think what's understood really don't have to be explained. Honestly, fellas. Meaning Embiid, I think he know everything revolves around him. Obviously, they still.

[Uncle Sean]

No, I don't know. I don't, I, I don't think that's the case no more, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm saying when I say revolve around him, I'm meaning playing the right way because.

[Uncle Sean]

Okay, okay, yes, okay, I see what you're saying.

[Joe Johnson]

He can't, he can't be no ball stopper when I say fall in line. Meaning like, man, look, he gonna get 20 points because he that damn good. You know what I mean? But can you get in the floor of the game and not be a ball stopper to where it gets all the guys, you know, out of sync? You know, we want, we want to continue that chemistry and continuity that they kind of got going. We don't want to pull the reigns back. We want to continue to let them attack offensively. Held JB, him and Max, they both averaged 29 a game this past year. Yes. Y' all don't think they trying to build on that now? Listen, I, I, I understand that they all gonna have to sacrifice a little bit. I just don't want to see that wild Helter Skelter ass basketball, no rhyme or reason. Your turn. My turn. Type. I don't want to see that, man. I want to see these guys being Sink and Joel play the right way and make the game easy for everybody around. And that's what I want to see.

[Uncle Sean]

But I also think, Joe, you know what happens A lot of times they overpass the ball because everybody wants to show that they're sacrificing. And everybody wants to show just how unselfish they are. And they're not there. They're like, I'm gonna show everybody they're, bro, take the shot. We're not saying, we're not saying take the obvious. We're not saying do the, you know, do the obvious right thing. But I think sometimes they overpass the ball because they're trying to show you go out of their way to show that we're just, we're so unselfish. I ain't got no problem with him. I ain't got no problem. And you're not playing really good basketball. I still believe that you play fundamentally sound basketball. And guys know when when to do the right thing and when. When it's not the right thing. That's just me personally, but I really wanted to see what you thought about this, because this is your level. And like I said, normally it's probably the quarterbacks that normally reach out, because for the most part, that's generally the guy that's looked at as the CEO. Now, it'd have been very interesting, probably. I mean, if you went to. When Saquon was with the Giants and, you know, they had some quarterbacks here, maybe they reached out to them, but maybe it was Saquon or maybe it was Jetta. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it was something like that. But I. I know, you know, when guys would go to Kansas City, they would always say, Patrick. They've talked to Patrick ago. They talked to Trav. And so I was always interested to see, because I was. Even though I was one of the leaders on the team, I would, you know, I was busy. I was. I work it out. Hey, and. And even like. Joe, did you. Did you. Did you take guys when you. When you were in college and they brought guys in, did you take them around campus? Did you take them on, show them on the official visit?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I wouldn't. They got. I, I, I was. I'm tell y' all something. When I was not. It wasn't that I was too quiet, man. I'd be too locked in. And I. I'm just not the typical guy when it comes to, like, showing guys a good time and all that, man. I ain't the dude for that. You hear me?

[Uncle Sean]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that ain't me. Cause, well, on my visit, I know they cut up.

[Uncle Sean]

Damn, Joe, you ain't participate.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, man, I wouldn't. You know, I wasn't partaking in that Uncle, I want. Hey, look, let me tell y' all something, man. Before I went to college, I had a real plan. I can't be here no longer than two years, bro. No longer than two years. I got to get my ass out of here. Yeah. Hey, it wasn't no nil back then. If I got a few million, you know, I could have brought Mama to college with me. She could have been cooking it up with me.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah. Yeah. She could have got a place right, right close by.

[Joe Johnson]

It was just gonna be a little pit stop. Hell, a little pit stop. And we gonna go.

[Uncle Sean]

Keep it on, you know, get back on, keep on moving.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Ocho, did you show people around, Would you? Where at? Oregon State. Well, you. Hell, you just got there.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I was in school for two weeks. I went to one class. I went to my finance two class. I went to my finance class, Joe. And you know, I love theater and drama. Hey, hey, I ain't going to nothing else.

[Joe Johnson]

You did. You did just enough to get by, huh?

[Sports Analyst 2]

I did just enough that I normally use later on in life. You know, I'm dramatic. I love theater plays, you know, stuff like that. And finance. You know, I am when it comes to my finances, bro. I don't play.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

That's how I was. I mean, look, I did it. Well, like I said, I. I showed Ben Coates around one time and I told him he shouldn't come there because they moved me to tight end and he gonna be on the bench.

[Joe Johnson]

You told. Oh, you. It was a guy in the same position as you?

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah. Ben Coates that played with New England, that went to the Pro bowl, and me from South Carolina, he ended up going to Livingston Houston, but he came to visit Savannah State. I was. I was his. I was his host. So I. Hey, when I. That was the only. That was the first and the last time. So I was like, man, I didn't know what position you play. I was a wide receiver.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

So, you know, and coach, like, a lot of times, the top offensive players that were coming in skill position players, coach would have me, and I would only did it one time. So I guess he thought enough of coach that, okay, coach, I. I do it. I said, my man, what position you play? He's like, man, I'm a tight end. I said, oh, okay. I say, what you. What? I mean, what you trying to do? He's like, man, you know, it'll be big for me to start my freshman year. I said, don't come here. He said, why? I said, cause they're moving me to tight end, and you can't beat me up. I was just honest. And guess what, Joe? The next year, I was All American Conference player of the year, offensive player of the year, All Conference, and black College All America. So what do you think the chance was he's gonna beat me out?

[Joe Johnson]

It wasn't gonna. Hey, you kept it 100 with him, man.

[Uncle Sean]

He went to Livingston, had a great career, got drafted by New England, and him and I used to go to the Pro bowl every year. If you was in the AFC from like, 93 to 98, you weren't going to the promo. Not over me and him.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all had it.

[Uncle Sean]

The question was, who was gonna start, he or I? But you could. No, hell no. But I Was honest with him. Yeah. Coach David said, goddamn home. I can't let you take them. Take nobody else out. We ain't gonna get nobody. And then if. If I'm a wide receiver, I'm taking you on a recruiting visit. But co. But it got to the point Coach said, you're trying. You're gonna be the slot receiver. We already got our two receivers. It was me and Squirrel. We came in together. So I was two, he was three. Yeah, Coach like, hey, I'm an All American. Then the next year I come back, I'm conference, I'm offensive player of the year. I'm first team, all conference. I'm again, black college All American. I was the only sophomore on the black college All American team, right? All the black coaches, we was in Greensboro, North Carolina. Anybody that know the Sheridan, Black College, Sheridan Network, they have a black college All American just for hbcu. HBCU players.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

My coach, Coach Davis. Coach. Coach from Grambling, Robinson. Coach from Jackson State, W.C. gordon. Coach Willie Jeffries. All those coaches from gunslinger Archie Cooley. Coach Cooley, they sitting around now. Everybody else is juniors because guess what? They got the. The Black College All Star Game. So they, you know, they out there practicing. All the coaches come in. I'm already there because I'm a sophomore. Obviously, I can't practice with them because I'm not leaving college. And everybody was talking about this guy. Oh, man, Harvey Reed, who was the running back. He was player of the year. Black college player of the year. They talk about all these guys. Vincent Brown, they call him the Undertaker. Mississippi Valley. He said, man, this joker here gonna be good. Coach Davis said, look here, I don't mean to cut y' all off. He said, but I got the bad in here. And he a sophomore. He said, I tell you what, in five years, he be the bad. He gonna be the. He gonna be the bad. Whatever he play, he gonna be. He gonna be the baddest one. All y' all good, I'm sure. All them guys good. He said, but I got the baddest end here right now. And he a South boy. He ain't lie.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, hey, hey. You still. You still talk to some of the players that played with you at Savannah State? Like, you still talking Bucket?

[Uncle Sean]

Me and Bucket played together.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, what about Squirrels? About Squirrel, the one that was.

[Uncle Sean]

I see Squirrel. I see. When I go back, Squirrel, We. We got what we call the 86 class. 86 is the best recruiting class in Savannah State history. Me, Squirrel, Big Daddy, Roughhouse Dame, Yard, couple of the Guys are passed now. Dame has passed. Yard is passed, Coop. But we were the baddest. We were the baddest class. BMW, Mike Wallace. Yeah, we still. We still. We still keeping communication. And when I go back, which is not often, we get a call, 86. And when we see each other, we start hollering, 86. And we know who that is. 86. Yeah, we on the yard. They already know 86 was in the house. 86 in the house.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Anybody went to Savannah State? Y' all know about 86.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all should cut up on their yard in your man, huh? I already know it. I already know it.

[Uncle Sean]

But look, for the most part, I don't know, maybe at North Carolina, Kentucky, the basketball teams, because those are basketball schools. Arkansas probably is a basketball school, but if you, if you go to a football school, I'm just trying to figure out how anything can even come. Come close. Come close at Alabama, at Ohio State, at Michigan, at Penn State, Notre Dame. What is even close to the football team, guys? Georgia.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah. Yeah, Arkansas football school. You right. Nah, nah. Them, boy. Hey.

[Uncle Sean]

Oh, yeah, but we. Yeah, we still, we. We plan. As a matter of fact, we plan. It's just so hard because everybody still is in Atlanta and in Savannah. Ocho. And so they talk. They talk all the time. And a lot of times when they have homecoming, they'll FaceTime me. That's the only time I let them FaceTime. They're like, man, hey, Sean, what's going on, man? You need to beat out here? Nah, not with y' all drunk ass. I don't need to be down there. But no, it's. It's always great hearing from the guys. I invited Big Daddy, Squirrel, Pope and Bucket. They came to the hall of fame.

[Tab Ramos]

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[Uncle Sean]

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[Uncle Sean]

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[Uncle Sean]

as a matter of fact, I paid for those guys to come in rough house. He asked Bucket to said, man, tell Sharp I want to come. I said, bro, I ain't. Hey, if he paid for his way, I got him a ticket into the game. So, I mean, to the. To the ceremony. So he paid for his own way because like I said, he's a part of that 86 class. And we were. We like this here. Yeah, we. I mean, you know, obviously, guys we might. We fought against, you know, we. I didn't fight. But you're somebody that gets, you know, we knuckle up. But boy, ain't nothing come between us. I guess it's us against everybody else. Yeah, we gonna fight.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, dab it up and be okay tomorrow. Don't you try that. Don't you try that in the yard now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I can imagine the stories them boys got, boy.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, freaky Shay over there.

[Sports Analyst 2]

It's so. It's so funny. Like you.

[Uncle Sean]

Joe. Joe I went to school. You know what I'm saying? I got to get a degree. I got to get up out of here, man. Porter sent me for two reasons.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, that don't mean you ain't freaking. Cause you got to do all that.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, I only had four years to be there. I could be there. Freaking. Freaking would have kept me there next year or two.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no. You. You.

[Uncle Sean]

I'm gonna get out regardless. Because back then. Well, I don't know if they do it now, man. Black college ain't got no money to be red shirt nobody. You got to get up out of there. You got four years. You come out and you come in there at 18. I mean, 17, you getting out at 21, you coming at 18, you getting out of 22. Ain't no red shirt. Even if you hurt yourself, you getting up out of there, you got a year cut show.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, Joe. Every time, you know, when uncle and I first started, and sometimes he'll tell stories about, you know, some. Some of the things that happened at the hbcu. We had some. Some really good stories, man, when we first started the show. And, man, it just got. That just got me thinking, man. Obviously, I didn't have the opportunity because I was a knucklehead and I took such a long route, you know, in. In the school system. And my love and my dream was to always attend Florida A and M University.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Oh.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Just to hear talk about the hbu, HBCU experience in general, and being able to see my daughter cross at Prairie View A M. It. Experience. That atmosphere, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Like, I had to talk about my daughter crossing over, Joe. I was in tears, Joe. Yeah, Joe, I'm talking about in tears. And the atmosphere, it was. It was unbelievable. And I was only there for two hours. Imagine being able to have that experience for four years straight. If that small symbol. Size.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Emotional, Joe.

[Uncle Sean]

I ain't nothing like Rush.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh.

[Uncle Sean]

See him go over to see the. AKA the Deltas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

You know, obviously, the. The. The Fives, the frats.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Uncle Sean]

The Kappas, the Sigmas, the Alphas.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. They had all that. Well, Ocho was at, didn't it?

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah. But it ain't nothing like a black hbcu. Not the pageantry.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Homecoming, Joe. That buzz, that atmosphere, that student center is buzzing. Everybody start to file. You know, all the. The alumni start filing in on. Start coming in late Monday, Friday, by Friday, everybody there, they up on the yard. They talk. Hey, Sharp. Hey, what you got for a shop? Oh, you already know. I'm gonna put it down for you now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

You came back to see o' Shea do it. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I got you. I'm gonna do what I do.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, Joe. I had the opportunity to go with my daughter senior year. I had the opportunity to go to Prayer View homecoming her senior year.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Joe.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I ain't never seen nothing like it, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I ain't never see. I ain't never seen nothing like it. And every time, FAMU has that homecoming, my. You know what? I gotta work. I'm always working on that Saturday. I've never had opportunity to go.

[Uncle Sean]

It's. It's amazing. And that. And that's what I tell people. If you went to a pwi, every black that gone to a pwi, you should have to spend one semester at an hbcu. And you want it to be the fall. You want it to be the fall, because in the fall, you're going to get a little bit of everything. You'll get all the football season, and you're going to get a couple of basketball games.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Our football team, we call the Suit Coat, the Suit Coat Crew. So we come in there, all football players. We have a suit coat on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

And we got a roll of toilet paper. As soon as our team score, we throw the toilet paper on the floor. They have to stop the game. They started controlling text on the joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

And so now the player, they get. They get hype. Hey, Sean, y' all coming? We got you. Yeah, we got you. Just. Hey, don't matter. We scope first or not. As soon as we go, about 40 rolls of toilet paper. Now, you will mess up the dorm. Cause, hey, we only had so much toilet paper in there. We having Steal toilet paper from the student center. But that's all right. But. But the team, we had a great chemistry. We had a great foundation. We got. We got along for the most part because Peacock, basketball, football, and a few baseball players. But mainly it was football and basketball players that stayed in Peacock. Most of the baseball players stayed down there at. At Boston. But we. We were close. We were close.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, man, I wish I had the opportunity to get that experience. Why?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Ain't nothing like it College. Hey, hey, college was fun, bro. Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

I'm just glad I went when I went. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't, Joe. We. We couldn't, Joe. Well, you could, Joe. Ocho and I couldn't make it in social media era. Not in college. Oh, not in college. Hey, no, not me.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, not me.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, you gotta realize, Joe, I had a brother in the NFL my junior and senior year.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're gonna be cutting up. You're gonna be cutting up, bro.

[Uncle Sean]

I had a 300ZX with T tops. I got a Mercedes my senior out of Mercedes. A 300E, big body.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, boy ain't passing up no hoo. Ha. He got he. Yeah, I already know it.

[Uncle Sean]

And you know you young then, man. Hey, I had to hire me a hostage negotiator to talk him down. He'd be up about five or six hours. I had to talk him down. Hey, hey, you've done all you could do, Mr. Sharp. You can. Come on. Hey, you can ease down now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you gotta chill. You got

[Uncle Sean]

a hostage negotiator to talk him down. Savannah pd. Hey, ask about me.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. What's wrong with your man, bro? He got.

[Uncle Sean]

I don't know, Joe.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, listen, but let me. Let me. Let me tell you how bad I had it, right? I wanted to. Never had the opportunity. Went to Oregon State, obviously. Great time. It was a short 4 month, 4 month stint for me at Oregon State. But I love FAMU so much, Joe. And I was a knucklehead in school, Joe. I graduated high school late. I didn't apply myself. Small, but I didn't apply myself. Yeah, I love FAMU so much, even after I made it to the NFL. You know how I'm about music. I love the band. I always been a fan of the band from 2002 to 2008. I'm not sure how many people in the chat went to FAMU or maybe played in the band, but I'm sure you heard the stories. Every off season. I did my training in Tallahassee just so I could see band camp, Joe. Just so I can see band camp, man. Dr. White, I don't. I'm not. Dr. White's not there anymore. Right now the. The band director is Dr. Shelby Chipman. They saw a Joe. Every off season I'm in Tallahassee at bay. I go train in the morning and sit there, watch band camp.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Did you ever play instrument?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, yeah. You know, Joe, I play piano and alto saxophone. Yeah.

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[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm talking about. I love. And just. I couldn't go there, so that. That gave me my sense of peace.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Is being able to see band camp during the off season and get my training done in the morning and. And go watch them boys, man.

[Uncle Sean]

That's. Yeah. Cuz by the time you got there, because when I came out, Prop 48 had just been instituted the year I graduated because of what happened at the University of Georgia. So that made it work. That made it so everybody was up under. You had to make at least 700 or you have to sit out your freshman year. So the only place I really could go was D2 or HBCU. So that's why I ended up going to Savannah State because I was one of the top recruits coming out. But my grades, like I tell people all the time, Joe, I couldn't have got in prison with my grades. Hey, I ain't fit to hold nobody. I ain't hold nobody. I'm not. I, I what? Like I am now that have acquired knowledge and wanted to learn? I had no interest in that when I was in high school because you have to understand, I was so much better than everybody else in my school. Yeah, I was so much better of a basketball player. So much better as a football player. Especially my senior year, it was close. My junior year, my junior year, we had a guy end up going to Georgia Tech named Alfonso Thomas. He probably was the best player. I probably was the second best player. My senior year wasn't even. No question. Basketball, best player, track. I was the best. I was the best at what I did. So. Hey, I ain't see no reading, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, they can't.

[Uncle Sean]

What you call them? They go to do no do no school work. They came from being, they came from

[Joe Johnson]

being out there in them fields.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, the chat, the chat. Making fun of me, talking about I laugh so much. Hey, so much. But the hey, chat, do me a favor. Those that think I'm lying, look at my Instagram, look at my picture that's on my Instagram. That, that, that, that, that, that. You should look, look at my picture. That's my Instagram, Mom. What you call it? Huh? Your bio, your bio.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, yeah, your biopic.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, look at my biopic.

[Joe Johnson]

What about it?

[Sports Analyst 2]

I mean, because they talk about. Oh, I'm live by my fam. My love for fam. You and the band.

[Tab Ramos]

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[Uncle Sean]

at TopGolf when you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. Like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast. Once it was locked in, I had to be ready to go. That's where Amazon prime can make a difference. When something comes together quickly, you can get what you need like grooming essentials, neck pillow, eye mask, even snacks for the flights so you're ready to show up for it with same day delivery. All those items show up on time and still make the trip so you can show up and focus on why you're there and not everything around it. Because at that point it's not just about getting there, it's about making the most of the opportunity in front of you. That's what I like about Prime. It makes easy to say yes when the moment shows up. Same day delivery. It's on prime available in select areas. Terms apply visit Amazon.com prime to find millions of items delivered fast.

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[Uncle Sean]

Oh, he leaves him in the dust.

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[Uncle Sean]

Joe Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch put the league on notice saying Anthony Edwards will be a cold blooded score with the addition of Lamelo Ball. He's engaged in a way like I've not seen. And I think this is a combination of factors. Obviously the excitement of playing along Lamelo. I think it's also maturation and recognizing what the team needs, where the team's at. He'll be far more like I think I'm just engaged in the overall sport. He's looking, he's watching. He maybe didn't have the confidence to express some of his thoughts before and now he's just way more community and it's fun. Joe hey, can we see Ant man seriously in the discussion as an mvp?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think, I think it can definitely happen. Obviously health plays a big factor, Uncle Ocho, but when you look at Lamelo Ball and, and, and Ant man, their games compliment one another. Lamelo is so unselfish. He make guys around him better. He has a natural feel, a natural great feel for the game. Like when you watch a cat play, bro. Like his, it ain't necessarily about him coming out scoring 30, 40 points a night. It's his natural feel of the game, knowing how to pass, when the pass, you know, seeing plays happen before they really even happen. And Lamelo was like that, bro. He, hell if I ain't mistaken, Uncle Ocho, I think he led the league. And as far as usage rate making guys around him better, it's some stat they would I seen. But okay, I think he's definitely gonna make the game a lot easier for Ant man offensively because he knows and understands. Listen, okay, boom. This our horse. I definitely got to get him going. I got to get him at least 8 to 10 easy points to where he don't even have to fight and work hard, you know what I mean? And then it's going to be nice where he probably going to have 14, 15 damn assists. But then they're going to be some other nights where he gonna have an efficient 22, 25 points. He'll lead him in school, you know what I mean? I just feel like yes, they complement one another and it's going to be so fun to watch because they're both so electric box office and can play, bro. They both got something to prove. Lamelo gonna have a chip on his shoulder, you know what I mean? This, this, this gonna be good for the game.

[Uncle Sean]

And you look at it, Joe, he's got a guy. Not only can he facilitate now here's the Lamelo is going to be the best scorer that he's played with since Cat. And he's playing with a guy that's a little more flamboyant as far as passing the ball than Mike Conley. He could score better than Mike Conley. They're kind of saying Mike Conley could facilitate, but Mike Conley wasn't the score that Lamelo is. Yeah, and nobody said so. Now you got him and you got McDaniels coming on into his own. So now you just can't gang up on Ant Man. You've got to pay these other guys some attention. And so it's going to be very, very interesting to watch. I can't wait to see it play. I can't wait to see him go at it. Because Ant man is so fun to watch. I've never seen a guy. Because normally most guys be taking it serious. They don't really. Ant man will engage with fans on the sideline.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

He like, oh, you're like, man, hey, I gotta work out. I'll be big like you. I said, I don't know about that, Eddie. Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Joe Johnson]

This is.

[Uncle Sean]

This is a lot of not eating and a lot of working out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. It's good that he know his body because, you know, some. Some of us know, you know, we know, but we can't afford no, no bad week or two. Hell, we've been picked up. Hey, but I, I think Minnesota, Uncle Ocho, I think they're going to lean heavily on McDaniel, really making a huge jump, you know, this upcoming season, because they're going to be perimeter dominant and they gonna need guys to really be able to score points and be effective on both ends of the court. And they got a number of cats who can do that, bro. So do you.

[Uncle Sean]

They got offensive firepower. You look at the Somo, you look at Shannon, you look at Lamelo, you look at Ant. Like you said, if McDaniels take that next step offensively, they got four or five guys that we know on a given. Well, we know Ant man can get 30, 40, but the other guys. And we've seen mellow get 40, but those other guys can get you a solid 20. Easy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, easy. They got. They.

[Uncle Sean]

And so now we got you. You got your anchor with Rudy. Rudy gonna get. Rudy's gonna be. Rudy. Just give me a double. Double Rudy. Anything over eight points, we'll graciously accept, but we need you to be somewhere around 11, 12, 13 rebounds a game. Around two, three block shots a game with some intimidation factor because even though you don't block it, you alter it so much, they're not even close to making it.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Sean]

You have Ant man going to be Ant Man. I'm counting on him being that. But I agree with you, Joe. I think they're going to be. I think they're going to be a very fun team. You know, they moved on from Drew Randall. They, they felt like he was clogging it up and, and wasn't. This is me. Nobody's told me this, but like, I don't really think he ever really fit with what they were trying to do, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right. Yeah, I understand. You know, I think what happened, especially in the, in the playoffs, they tried to play through Randall and it just didn't work. You know, obviously Ant man was hurt, he was hobbled. Hell, he even came off the bench the first, I think game or two.

[Uncle Sean]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

It just didn't happen for him. You're right. The games don't complement each other because he's just not a. He can catch and shoot and make a three, but he ain't no damn catch and shoot three. You know what I mean? Like, he a guy you kind of got to play through in order for him to be effective, you know what I mean? You got to drop him the block, drop him the ball in the mid post and let him work a little bit, you know what I mean? And they just, it's kind of like force feeding. So I just think they're really thinking back, you know, obviously with them getting rid of Cat and him going to win a title. Hell, man. Hey, hey, things happen, bro. Move on. You know what I mean? Like we.

[Uncle Sean]

I think the thing also Ocho and Joe, is that because Julius Randall is not a great passer, he doesn't do a great job of passing when the double team comes and he doesn't have a signature move. So now he's got to take 15 dribbles just to get within a couple of feet of the basket to try to bull his way to the basket. Up and under you well, man. So why you doing all that? I'm just standing around watching, Joe. Hey, I'm. Hey, Joe, I'm like this. I'm ready. Hey, what you gonna do for me now? Come on now, shoot it to me. I'm ready. Like well, damn. Hey, he like, he like a dump truck, a sanitation truck. Beep, beep, beep, beep. Well, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey you.

[Uncle Sean]

Now you pass me the ball with four seconds and wonder why I rushed up a shot. Now you killing my shooting percentage because you rushed me a shot. You gave me the ball 30ft out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Duncan Ocho, the most underrated attribute a cat can have in basketball is being able to pass the damn ball.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I'm talking about that's the most underrated attribute. Because if you got a guy who can really pass, especially your bigs, man, they can make the game a lot easier for everybody. But if you got somebody, man, who can't pass, it's hard, bro. It makes the game a lot harder. You know what I mean? So I understand what Unc saying, you know, as far as Drew Randall not being a. A great passer, man, you gotta have. If your bigs can pass the ball, man, your offense can run real smooth, bro.

[Uncle Sean]

Why you think Jokic is so dominant?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, why you think Yogic is so dominant?

[Sports Analyst 2]

He could pass his ass off like. Like a damn point guard.

[Uncle Sean]

Yes, yes. That's why Biggs that can pass out of the double team now, because guess what? I pass out of the double team. Akeem Olajuwon, he was passing a Kenny Smith Jet and Vern Mad Max. We're getting wide open. Threes. Ori getting wide open. Look threes. Sam Cassell getting wide open. Look threes. And now when you come to dober team, I dump the ball down to oldest Thorpe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Or I got Clyde slack knife into the basket. Boom. So when you get a guy like that, Shaq with Kobe, you look at, go look at Shaq. Now, he's not a 6, 7 assist guy, but Shaq knew Kobe coming. Slash and diving. He dumping off to him. Kobe dunking the ball. Or he's got Robert or he got Rick Fox. He got Fish knocking down three. So when you got guys like that, it's hard. You got the double shot, you ain't got no choice.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Even though you know they got shooters out there.

[Joe Johnson]

Look.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, that's a three point shot. But Shaq gonna dunk your big in the basket if you don't double him every time.

[Joe Johnson]

Every time.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And think about that. You see what y' all just said, right?

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Shaq is how dominant Shaq is.

[Uncle Sean]

Yes.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And now think about that five we got down there in Miami, huh? Think about that. Think about that

[Uncle Sean]

gonna ever be another one.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm not saying he is Shaq. I'm just saying with teams are going to have to double team him, huh? And we got. And we got the King coming over there too, right? We got the King coming over there where he's had to carry the crown, carry the team on the shoulder. Stay with me, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me finish that, all right?

[Sports Analyst 2]

He's had to carry the weight of the shoulders all his career. Now he want to sit back, kick back, and relax and let everybody else do the heavy lifting. Guess what? He could do that at, Joe.

[Uncle Sean]

Where you can do that, Ojo, but

[Sports Analyst 2]

he could do that down in Dade county, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho. Giannis, you really don't have to double Yanis. You just got to build that damn

[Uncle Sean]

wall and build a wall. Yeah, I'm not done. Because he don't have a signature move, Ojo. O, he, he ain't got, like, a midi. He ain't got no turnaround. I, I, I, I'll, I'll give him that all day. I just got to keep him. I got to keep him out of the paint. That's what you. As long as I ain't letting him do this or dunking the ball on me.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You heard what you just said? Yes, I got to keep him out the paint. Who in the hell has succeeded on keeping him out the paint?

[Uncle Sean]

Build that wall. The team that beat his ass in the playoffs when I can just focus on him.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, he by himself. You can't just focus on him now.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, I'm just not gonna let him get 30, 15, and 7.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Well, Bam gonna give you 83.

[Uncle Sean]

Okay, well, let Bam give us 83.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, real talk, though, like, Yan is getting a rebound. That's when he had his deadliest. When Giannis. When Giannis get the rebound. Ocho, I feel like he's at his deadliest, because, you know, he can attack. It's a fast break right away. So what teams have to do is you have to build that wall, meaning you got to have at least. Shit, two, three sets of eyes on him. And y' all in close proximity, so he ain't got no lanes he can kind of get into and get in the teeth of your defense and. Cause all kind of hell. Because once he do that, you let him get in there. Hell, now he nerf hoop dunking it, spraying out for three. It's just too many options, you know what I mean? But I think, I think they gonna be a hell of a team. I think they gonna be greedy defensively, which is gonna fuel their offense. Yeah. Hey, Ocho. Ocho, real talk. If y' all get LeBron, what they think gonna be turned up to the max over there, boy?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, Joe, you ain't got to tell me because you, you understand that Expert analysis you just gave me.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

What you think? LeBron. Thinking LeBron. No. Where can I go where I don't have to shoulder the burden? What is going to be the easiest route for me not to just play? Yeah, we heard Rich Paul say. Oh, it's not about the money. Oh, it's not about getting a ring. The hell you say. Yes, it is. I want my best chances. I want to maximize the end of the road as much as I can, and this is the best fit. I understood that, which is why I've been saying everything I've said. How you think I knew Giannis was coming to Miami? What did I say on the show? Long time ago. Long time ago. Before anybody. Oh, yeah. You honest out here looking for houses? I mean, I ain't just throw that out and just be throwing out there. And then we got the reports today. Huh? You saw the reports about Clay?

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, so I saw that.

[Joe Johnson]

I saw that.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, listen, when I say something on here on Nightcap, I know y' all think I'd be lying. I got. And I don't even need sources because I'd be in the room with the people that's making the moves.

[Joe Johnson]

What you said, bro?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Uncle Sean]

Well, what'd you say? You got really lucky. Because had Boston given that third year that Giannis wanted y', all, this would have been in Boston. You must have knew Boston. We're gonna give him that third year.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I know what I'm talking about, man.

[Uncle Sean]

You. You know they won't go in that third year, but.

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[Uncle Sean]

You said something very interesting before I was leaving. You say Yan is getting the ball on the re. Defensive rebound and pushing it. It's like a running back. Oh, what we make. What we say about Derrick Henry. We got to make him check his feet.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, you got.

[Uncle Sean]

If I let. If I just toss him the ball and let him run and then come downhill, I gotta make him check his feet. I gotta make. I gotta stop the ball. I gotta make Giannis pick up his dribble.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

And I ain't talking about it. The damn free throw line because it's too late. You let it pick up the dribble up of the free throw line. He had the basket. He dunking it or you following it?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, the best thing you could do, make him go east and west. Joe.

[Uncle Sean]

Yes. I gotta stop the ball. I gotta.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That goddamn Derek.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Sports Analyst 2]

That goddamn Derrick Henry. Joe. Joe. He weigh about as much as you. He by. He's 6:3. And he get ahead of steam once he get Past that, the line boy. I'm making a business decision.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nothing you can do.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm a tackle his shoe. That's it. I'm going after his shoe.

[Uncle Sean]

As a returner, we say, hey, the first guy down to the gunner, you gotta throw, you gotta make it. You just can't let him. Because when they just hit it on the move, yeah, it's too much. You got to make him. You got to make him check his feet. But I told Ocho. Ocho, when they first got there, what I told him to do. I said, man, y' all putting him in an offset. He's not an offset back. He's not Jameer Gibbs. He's not Christian McCaffrey. Put that man heels at 8 yards and toss him the damn ball.

[Sports Analyst 2]

He's an old school back, huh?

[Uncle Sean]

He's an old school ibag, Joe. Hey, he want to be out there, and you can put a full back in front of him, and you can let the fullback slide however you want to, but he wants you to hand it to him or toss it to him. But he can't do. He's not. He's too long. He's a long strider. So as a long strider, you put him in offset. One step, two steps. He had to line.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Hey, hey, but how you ain't shifted like. He ain't shifted like Gibbs. He ain't shifted like. Like. Like a Christian McCaffrey. No, he's not. He doesn't have shape like that like a James Cook. Those guys can operate in an offset position, but not him. He's too big. Hey, I say. See, I told you.

[Joe Johnson]

How's he. How is he that big, though, with that type of breakaway speed? Because it's like once he get through that, if he can get through there, it's like ain't no damn catching him.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, no, no. He throw the head back.

[Uncle Sean]

He throw the head back like we did back in the country. It's over if you ever throw that head back.

[Sports Analyst 2]

No, he's strong, Joe.

[Uncle Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm not talking about this strong. I'm talking about when he run it. He in that open field.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, strong boy, Steve. People missed on him. He went in the second round because of his style. You gotta look at Ocho Joe and Ocho. Yeah, he had the most yard. He has the most rush yards in high school football history. He broke Ken Hall's record of Sugar Land, Texas, that still for like 50 years, he broke that record. Now he goes to Alabama. He's not there Long, but look at the carries. And he had what we call an upright running style, which is a big target. He's a big man, providing you a big target to hit. So everybody says ain't no way he's gonna be able to last long. He's got 2,000, 3,000 carries in high school, he's got another 2,000 carries in college. And so he might at best got four, five years. And here he is, if I'm not mistaken, going to year 10, go year 11 and have a chance to be the all time leading rusher. He has a chance, outside chance to catch Emmett Smith and Ladanian Thomas as far as touchdowns from a running back. So he surprised a lot of people because of his running style is not conducive for someone because he's the guy that runs the contact. He's a collision back. Hey, if you notice. But now if you. If he had open and you see, you go. Because I gotta tackle him low, Ocho. I ain't gonna hit him in his damn chest.

[Sports Analyst 1]

You a fool.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Absolutely not. And get right.

[Uncle Sean]

I'm going low, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I noticed that this year too, this past season, because he dealt with them damn fumbles because guys, that guys were like, damn, taking this contact. I'm gonna strip this damn box.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And now I put that in the back of his mind. So now he can't run aggressively as he normally would because he's thinking about securing the football. You're at your best when you're just free. Ocho is just running his ride. He running that speed out. Ocho, that left foot gonna hit at 10. He gonna throw it to. He gonna roll. Hey, he knows when he comes out of that break, 1, 2. That ball A. He already know I'm hit at 10, I'm a roll to 12. Hey, when that right foot hit on that dig route and I'm on the right side, I'm driving back downhill. I already know that. But I can't be thinking about because what happens is it sold out. You have a couple of drops. Now all of a sudden you apprehensive. You tried to body cat. You tried to buy you a. You ain't fluid. You trying to body catch a joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

You running with the football. You like you got both hands around it. You can't, you can't. How you juking somebody like that? You need to have the ball. Ah, so they put doubt in his mind because he had those fumbles last year, especially against Buffalo.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Hey, hey, remember what I said on the show he fumbled because he got them. What? On his arms.

[Uncle Sean]

Oh, those sleeves.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Sleeves. Next game, sleeves was gone. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You got, you got to be able to fall, feel that ball on your skin when you wear them long sleeves. Yo, like, like the hoop as well.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

You can't feel the ball. You got to be able to feel that ball.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Somebody punch it the right way. You got to have that skin, skin the leather on. You got to have that skin to leather contact.

[Uncle Sean]

But I like considering that Minnesota has knocked Denver out a couple of years of the playoffs and with really just aunt. Now J. McDaniels has been out of his mind. I don't know what it is about the Nuggets, Joe. And then they found something in this disambo. They found something in those guys. But I don't know what it is about the Nuggets that he loves playing against the Nuggets. He get a. And he gives a Murray a fit.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's, that's, that's why he plays. Well, let me tell you something. When you got a, a guy who's known for defense and he can score, he's a pretty good offensive guy too. See him having to guard Murray, it fuels his offense because you know, you play good defense, you in good spirits, so you playing the right way, boom. That ball find you, you know, now you're able to make plays offensively. But defensively he's so engaged that, you know, it kind of fuels his offense and kind of gets him going to the point to where he, damn, he looks so good against the Nuggets. I'm like, I don't think the Nuggets want to see the Timberwolves no damn more, dog.

[Uncle Sean]

He's like, I need to see, I need to see the Nuggets about 40, 50 games. I'm an all star against them for sure. But that's just that, that's, that's how, that's how it rolls out. But I'm anxious to see Ant Man. He is, he is, you know, he's a pleasure to watch because at the end of the day, I don't give a damn the sport. It's still about entertainment. Oo yeah. You go to sport, you go to a sporting events to what? To be entertained?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

Let me ask you a question. If Jordan just laid the ball up, were you gonna be just entertained? It was that tongue hanging out and he sideways.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

It was Magic Johnson doing this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that part. Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

That's why Biggs. That's why it's hard to resonate with Biggs unless you like Shaq breaking down the backboard. Everybody talking about the most unstoppable shot that's ever been created in basketball is what the hook. That sky hook.

[Joe Johnson]

Sky hook.

[Uncle Sean]

And don't nobody get Kareem credit. Man, ain't nobody want to see that.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nobody even practicing that no more.

[Uncle Sean]

Ain't nobody practiced. Of all the things you see people do, the fang of the. The fang of roll. George Gervin and Doc Fanga roll, you see them hang in the air. They even tried to copy Steph Curry shooting the ball from distance. Ain't no. Not one player have ever.

[Commercial Announcer]

You.

[Uncle Sean]

When the last time you see somebody throw a hook shot from 18ft, like. Like Kareem.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's a hard ass shot, though. Uncle Ojo ain't gonna lie to you.

[Sports Analyst 2]

And that's probably why they don't want to do it. It would take long to perfect something like that, too.

[Uncle Sean]

Kareem said, you think. How long you think he took him to work on it? He said, you make it seem like he just came in the league he's been working on his whole career.

[Sports Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

So. And that's the thing. Jordan, not Jordan. If he wasn't entertaining, he understood the entertainment value of it, Right? Yeah. When he started flying through the air, dunking on everybody with spraying his legs.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? You already know how the logo go, man.

[Uncle Sean]

Stop playing the jump, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

I mean, hey, he dunking on everybody in the game. And when he came out there with that tongue hanging out, I said, man, you gonna bite your damn tongue off?

[Sports Analyst 2]

I'm surprised. I'm surprised he didn't have any issues. We got somebody hit him out there or hit him while his tongue was out.

[Joe Johnson]

What kind of issues?

[Uncle Sean]

Well, if. If the Knicks didn't do it and the Heat didn't do it, and his Pistons, what, Nobody else gonna do it. Cause they were the most physical. Yeah. Hey, but don't sleep on the Boston Celtics. Now. People don't. People don't look at. Because they look at Mikhail and they look at Parish and they look at Bird. They don't think they were physical, but shh.

[Joe Johnson]

They had a super team.

[Uncle Sean]

Everybody, all of them have to. The Lakers and the Celtics had a super team, but super teams are okay, Joe, if you build it. That's what I. That's what I learned to notice.

[Sports Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

As long as you build it. But you do realize the Celtics did not draft Robert Parish. They traded him for Joe Barry Cowell in the right to the number one pick. So they trade. That's how they got Kevin McHale and Robert Paris.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Sean]

They didn't draft Dennis Johnson, they didn't draft Nate Archibald. A lot of the players that they got, they didn't draft. But that's okay. That was before he. Back then. And look at the Lakers. They didn't draft Kareem, they drafted Magic. They didn't draft Bob McAdoo. But look, if I like you, I'll make excuses. You know what I'm saying? Ocho, I like what you do. If I don't, I don't give a damn what you do. You can find a cure for cancer. Screw you. You ain't. You ain't cured diabetes. Oh, man, you found a cure for cancer, but you ain't cure diabetes. What you gonna do about that, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Come on.

[Uncle Sean]

If you so good at medicine. But you know how I go. But no, I. I think this is. I. Ant man, you come trying to say the close he gonna come is to the Lakers or the Clippers. I got to go see him. I gotta hit up. Hey, T. Lou, I know you watch it. Cause you watch all the time. I'm gonna come see Ant man play when they go.

[Joe Johnson]

When they go play the Clippers.

[Uncle Sean]

Yeah, I. I think I want what. I will. I will hit his ass up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Minnesota gonna be fun to watch this year?

[Sports Analyst 2]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

They're gonna be fun to watch. They still gonna. I still think they're gonna be a top. They're gonna be a top five team in the East. I mean West.

[Uncle Sean]

Top five, sure. Yeah, for sure. And if ants stay healthy, they might. Hell, they might be top four.

[Joe Johnson]

Could be. Could be.

[Uncle Sean]

If you can stay healthy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

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