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Joe Johnson
I thought the game was great, you know, with, with the dream, obviously, almost having five people with, with five players with 20 points. Uncle Ocho, now, they all didn't have 20, 16, 17, 17, 18. Reese had 21. But man, when you talking about promise from, from the Atlanta dream, man, they look great, bro. I mean, they, they went on the road and beat a great Indiana team. Mean, we got to give them credit. Indiana, they had three girls with what, 25 points.
Shannon Sharpe
Boston had 23, Kelsey Mitchell had 26, Caitlyn Clark had 26. They shot 56% from the floor, Joe, 47% from the three. But they had 17 turnovers. And that's what, when you look at
Joe Johnson
the dream, man, they're blue collar, working team. Fellas, when you look at they hard nose, they gonna fight, scratch, claw, do whatever it takes to get a win. That's why I enjoy watching them play. Obviously, Angel Reese, I feel like she's the catalyst because her energy and effort, you know, you, you, you can't make up for that, bro. You know, I don't know why Chicago was willing to give up, but I'm glad she came to Atlanta, you know what I mean? And I think, I think Atlanta has some promise to where they're really a team that's capable of really probably winning the title, honestly, you know, I mean. Cause going into Indiana, it ain't no easy feat, bro. You got to go in there with your mind made up and ready to play with your hard hat on.
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is with angel is because she was such a young player and you know how it is, guys, we both, we've all been young players that graduated into veteran players that we played very, very well. Young players are supposed to be seen and not heard.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever criticism you may or may not have, keep them to yourself. Yeah. And definitely do not voice them publicly. If you want to say something within the locker room, you want to take it to upper management, that's fine and good. But when you air these grievances out. And so they've cast her to be the villain, that was an easy role for her to have because she's been the villain ever since she played Caitlin Clark in the national championship game. She's been the villain ever since then. And so it was easy for them to put that cape on her, to that crown on her head and so she could wear it and she gladly accepted it. But that doesn't diminish who and what she is. She is a lunch pail lady that's going to get. Just going to get you second chance opportunities. She's going to dominate the glass. She is a hustle, hustle player. Is she going to look like. Does she have the prettiest shot? No. But she's the type of person that you can win a championship with because she's going to give you so many opportunities on the offensive end because she go, hey, she coming out of the game every night with somewhere between three to five offensive rebounds every single night.
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Joe Johnson
She. She is a monster. And when you take into consideration that since Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark has came into the wnba, Uncle Ojo, they changed the trajectory of the way the league is being seen, the way people look at them, view them, and obviously the pay. The pay has gotten better. That's why it's hard for me to process when I see these girls being jealous of these girls. It's like, bro, they helping everybody out. You know what I mean? Everybody. How in the hell can you be mad at these girls when you should be helping them? Yeah. I ain't saying when you play against them to take it light on them. Yeah, compete. Compete to the fullest. But at the same time, bro, they've done great justice for the game, for the women's game.
Shannon Sharpe
And I think the thing is, is that a lot of times what people don't understand, and I didn't really understand it until I got into the business. Sports are about stories.
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Shannon Sharpe
I know fans look at wins and losses, but about stories. When Lab Bird and Magic Johnson got to the NBA, it was a story, a very compelling story. Now, we don't talk about this too much, but what color was Bird? What color was Magic? Where was Bird in the Eastern Conference, Magic was in the Western Conference, where, boom, we got a storyline that we can ride for the next several years. Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark come, boom, boom. It perfect. Because Bird and Magic played in the national championship game in 79 in Salt Lake City. And guess what? Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese played a national championship game. And here we go. So we have a very, very compelling storyline to embrace and wrap ourselves around. Because just imagine, Ocho, your sport, soccer, if we got Messi and Ronaldo in the World Cup Final. Hey, what's the. What would the storyline be now? Oo, it ain't just. Hey, it ain't just about goals.
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Yes.
Joe Johnson
What's the chances, though?
Shannon Sharpe
That's what sports are about. It's about storylines. Look at the storyline with the Knicks. Jalen Brunson, a second round draft pick. 30 teams passed on him. And at least once, guess what? He was on a team and they didn't want him. And he goes there and they said, you know what? An undersized guard can't be your lead dog.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
A great storyline. Sports are about stories. The better the story, the more compelling it is to watch. Tom Brady. Great. Is there a better story than Tom Brady? Than. Than LeBron James? Are there any better stories?
Kayla or Female Co-host
No, Go ahead. Hey, I was gonna say Uncle Joe. That's what makes for so. So dope. That's what makes for so dope. So regardless of what sports you play, each player has an individual story, and that indirect story is what makes them who they are, which in turn keeps the people coming back to say it.
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Kayla or Female Co-host
Because of the stories. No different than what you say about Nightcap.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Kayla or Female Co-host
People come to hear the sports, you know, they had to come up, talk about sports.
Shannon Sharpe
But the story, Joe, they stay for the stories.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Stories and the experiences that we've had throughout life. The funny thing about it is, Joe and Uncle, when we talk about the stories that we've had, a lot of people don't even know how relatable we are to them.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Because we've been through the same stuff. Yeah, we've all been through the same stuff. So, I mean, I mean, I mean, it's dope. It's dope. So I'm very happy, you know, for Angel Reese and like you said, too, also, Joe, it's is. She's always been the villain. She's been able to wear that crown. She's been able to wear that mask. Avoid being villainized in general and play right into it.
Shannon Sharpe
I love y', all, guys. They talk about LeBron's story. Doesn't play a man. A man born to a single 16 year old mother, didn't have a dominant male figure, grew up in the projects, move around and round and round and round, and arguably became the greatest basketball player ever. Not two parents, a single mother. Tom Brady story is phenomenal. Six round draft pick. I was a seventh round draft pick. I understand what it's like, but see, it's easier for. It was easier for Tom Brady and Shannon Sharp to become what they. Because we had no expectations. The greatest killer of careers is expectations.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Expectations.
Shannon Sharpe
Imagine. Imagine. And we see people drop when their parents have been successful and their grandparents have been successful. And all of a sudden, Ocho, they're expecting that. That's where the term black come from.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So when you have grandparents, you have two or three generations that are successful and all of a sudden you're following that lineage and you don't. Some people can't handle that.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Because they're like, well, damn. What. What happened to you? Your grandparents, your grand, your grand, your great grandfather, your grandfather, your father, your brother. Your mother. Yeah, her mother, her father. Expectations are the number one killer. And I think the thing is with Angel Reese and what she's been able to bring, she's unapologetically herself. She make no apologies for who you are. Take it or leave it. You either like me or you don't. Once you realize how little how. Once you realize how you realize how few people act, what they really think of you, you wouldn't care.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The great whomever you think the greatest orator is, whoever you think the greatest leader is, tell me the last time you heard somebody mention their names. We all will be forgotten at one point in time.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
While you're here, you determine what is important to you.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
What is important to you.
Kayla or Female Co-host
You got to have a purpose.
Shannon Sharpe
I watched Arsenio Hall. I heard Arsenio hall said, you know what he's like. He left his show and he didn't get right back in it. And it's like he realized he didn't need any more money. What he needed money couldn't provide him. He wanted more of that. He said I had time off. I wanted more of that. Not more money, but because I understand what comes along with money. More of the rat race. I just wanted some time. I wanted to be a dad. I wanted to go pick him up from school.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So for Angel Reese to be who she is, make no apologies for who she is. Blend right in. She got ladies that can go get buckets. Ryan Howard was The number one overall draft pick, Alicia. Alicia Gray can get Bucky Jordan, Canada, and your refilling seamlessly. Because you really don't have to run a whole lot of offense for Ocho.
Joe Johnson
No, you don't have to run.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause she gonna.
Joe Johnson
You don't have to run no plays for. I'm telling you, man. Listen, Ocho, she reminds me of a guy who I played with named Sean Marion, man. Listen, listen, listen. You didn't have to run. Now, one play for Matrix, bro, and he was gonna end up with 20 and 10 every night. Uncle Ocho. I'm talking about every night, bro. I'm talking about. He was gonna go. He just outworked everybody. He had a quick second jump like he. He was the difference maker.
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I turned off news altogether.
Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
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Joe Johnson
Why is it always chaos when we link up?
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Joe Johnson
And what we were trying to do in 05, obviously making it to the Western Conference finals, end up losing to San Antonio. But if it wasn't for him, bro, we wouldn't have been the team that we was, bro. Like, he was the guy, he was a separator. Because you got to understand, he was an all star, playing in three his entire career. And then all of a sudden, D. Antony moves him to the four. I'm like, damn, how that's gonna work, Sean Kind of small because normally back then, I don't think about it. Because you had Se Carl Malone, Rasheed,
Shannon Sharpe
you had real Barkley all. Well, Barkley retired by then. Retired by then. But they, but they were loaded. Yes.
Joe Johnson
I wasn't guarding power forwards back then. You know what I mean? Now Sean gotta guard these power fours and man, he done a hell of a job. I'm just saying, Angel Reese was a monster. He was in my draft class. But Angel Reese, she reminds me of him, bro.
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Joe Johnson
She just outworking everybody who she plays against. And you know, playing against a player like that every night where you gotta get your sleep because, you know one thing she gonna say, hey, hey, she coming to play, bro, and you gotta be ready.
Chad Ochocinco
She's.
Shannon Sharpe
She's. She's a little better offensively, but she's
Joe Johnson
the female version of no question.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause you already know Robin. Robin was getting 15 rounds a night. You just tried to keep him from getting 20 or 30, but he was gonna get 15. And you tried to do everything you possibly could to keep him off the offensive glass, because you know he was washing the glass on the defensive end.
Joe Johnson
Too much of a motor.
Shannon Sharpe
Because like you said, Joe, a tremendous second bounce. He go up, and the next thing you know, he's down and back up again. Like, well, damn, bro. You just. You just left the floor. How the hell you back down and back up again?
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Joe Johnson
Hey, but they say Dennis Rodman was one of the hardest workers, bro. Like, when I say hardest worker. Now, he ain't coming in the gym getting up no damn shots, but you talking about getting on that treadmill. You talking about things like that. Because he know his energy and effort is. Is what's keeping him in the league. That's what's gonna keep him. That's what's gonna keep him being a professional.
Shannon Sharpe
So he.
Joe Johnson
He did that to the T, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Dennis Robinson said, man, look here, I. I might score six points. I might give you that. But I need to have these 16 rebounds to go.
Joe Johnson
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
And then go over them. The man have 20. The man have 20 plus rebounds and no points.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, you. Each player got to create their value.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Kayla or Female Co-host
There's five players on the court, then you got your bench. Each player has their own niche that makes them special and makes them valuable. And once you figure out what that niche is and that pecking order that you guys kind of. Kind of brought to my attention when it comes to the game of basketball, hey, that. That is your value.
Shannon Sharpe
And plus, the thing is, is that you understand what. What is this? What is my niche? Because a lot of times guys are not happy with the niche because rebounding ain't sexy. Playing defense ain't sexy. Yo, you know I gotta get you buckets. Hey, man, man, Let me get 20. Let me get 30. Let me cross somebody else. Let me poke on somebody. Dennis. Robin understood. Ben Wallace was another one, bro. Listen, I'm never gonna average 20 and 20 and 10.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna play defense. I'm gonna. I'm gonna anchor this thing down. Hey, And I'm gonna make everything. Every. I'm gonna make it tough when you come into paint, but I'm gonna get these rebounds. That was Dennis Robin, wherever he went. I mean, Dennis robin average like 4. Dennis Robbins get 17, 18 rebounds a game for a season. That's crazy. And he's not. And he's not seven foot tall. Yeah, you go back and look at his number. Dennis Robert led the league and rebounded like seven times.
Kayla or Female Co-host
But when he with the Bulls or the Pistons?
Shannon Sharpe
Both, Both. He led. He led the bull all three years he's in Chicago. He led the league in rebound.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, think about this. You know, for the kids who watching, for the kids who coming into the NBA going into the draft, you gotta understand, bro, all these dudes were the man on that team at high school and college. You know what I mean? They put up great numbers. Everybody not gonna be able to do that in the pros. Uncle Ocho. You know, you go, you're gonna. Like you say, you may not even know your niche when you first get there, but damn it, you better figure it out if you want to play. Real talk. I'm speaking from experience because I was one of those guys who obviously had a knack for scoring. But. But my rookie year, bro, I had to find a way to stay on the court, Uncle. Oo. And that's just through. Through my work effort, playing defense, being disruptive, doing whatever I can. I just never wanted the coach to have a reason to take me out the damn game. Real talk. I never did, bro. So to these young cats who think they gonna come into the league and gonna get 15, 20 shots tonight, hell nah, that ain't gonna happen, bro. It's gonna be a pegging order, and you're gonna have to get your ass in line. But in the meantime, while you in line, you need to be figuring out another way how you can get your ass out there on the court. Yeah, it.
Shannon Sharpe
It's. It's really not that complicated. Find a way. As long as I got cleats, I got a job. As long as I got clean. I used to have a young guys cleats on your feet. You got a job, sneakers on your feet. That means you got a job. And like Joe. So find out what it is. Hey, just. Hey, you learn very own. I'm just gonna do what I might not get it right, I might make a mistake, but it's gonna be 100 miles an hour. Because the thing is, they. They can coach everything else. They can get your technique, they can teach you how to read coverages, they can teach you all that. I can't teach you how to play hard. That's either in you or it's not.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what the coaches say, son. Don't. Hey, let me cut you. Don't cut yourself, even if you don't know what you're doing. Do it 100 miles an hour, and we'll figure the rest of this ish out. Yeah. Okay, Sharpie. Hey, boy. Sharp. You look good. You went wrong, but your boy, you
Joe Johnson
all, hey, hey, hey, hey. And it can't just be on days where you feel like it, you know, it's got no consistent. It has to be a constant, you know, for. I'm saying, for a head coach to trust you, he got to really feel like this is you. This is who you are, you know? And I think when you got a lot of young guys, a lot of young players, because you got to understand now, when you come into the NBA, the top guy on the team, hell, he may not be but about three, four years older than you, you know what I mean? As, when I came into the league, we had real vets, you know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
So them guys that spent at least three years in college now, these guys would have done. So you get there when you wasn't done. You were your first year there. He in his second year there.
Calm News Advocate
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He might be your age. So you might go to Dallas and Cooper. You and Cooper flag the same age. And he already got a year on his bill.
Joe Johnson
That's what I'm talking about. So, you know, I hope these young guys ready, man. I'm looking forward to it, bro. But it is a learning curve. It's a huge learning curve because some guys don't really get an opportunity to really show what they can do until about three or four years into the league, bro. It takes that long. Sometimes everybody don't get the. Everybody don't get the ball handed to them right away, man. Go ahead, make mistakes. Go ahead and play. Hell no. Someone's got to wait out of turn.
Shannon Sharpe
It's still all about consistency, Joe. You got to be consistent every day, show up every day, behave. Things be going mad. Like, damn, Damn, bro, you ever. Are you ever mad? Are you ever upset? Hell, no.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
For what? Yeah, the Knicks had their parade today. Let's check out the scenes from the nyc. Wow. Like, come on, man. Look at the people on the building.
Joe Johnson
And they risking their life. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, if they was to call
Kayla or Female Co-host
us, you know, catch him right below.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you hurt somebody right below. What you go through? New York, probably.
Kayla or Female Co-host
City probably shut down there, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, for sure.
Chad Ochocinco
The.
Joe Johnson
The police ain't even tripping. They like Whatever.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. For the police to take you in, you got to do something real.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Haywire on, on Instagrams.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what it's supposed to be. And, and, and for the Knicks, they had the celebrities, Mariska Hargitay and I think Ben Stiller was there, although. And Timothy Chalamet. I mean, it's, it is just unbelievable. I don't know if anybody treat their celebs and their fans quite. And I understand, look, the Celtics got a great fan base. The, the Lakers, you know, Jack, Spike Lee of the equivalent of Jack Nichols. Jack Nicholson for la. What Jack Nicholson is for la. Spike Lee is that for the Knicks. I don't know who that is. For the Celtics and all these other. But I'm saying just those two. I don't know, Joe, if we've seen anybody treat their celebs to be in the parade, to walk and get the love and adoration that the players receive. Yeah, that is crazy. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. But that is amazing to see the Fat Joes and all those people get that kind of love and that kind of praise. And the, the old guard, man, the way they had Patrick Ewing, Alice Houston and Starks and Spree and, and Grandmama. All those guys there damn near every game.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Ocho, here's what you got to take into consideration. I'm happy for New York. I, I, I love to see it. I think it's great for the game. But when you got about 8 to 9 million people living in New York, bro, this is what you get. They, they, they are going to support their Knicks Die Hard. And look, we always talk about, man, if you win a championship in New York, boy, you gonna be goaded forever.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Forever.
Shannon Sharpe
Forever. Forever.
Joe Johnson
We're witnessing, we're witnessing history right now. And yes, it's amazing to see, bro. I look, us seeing all these fans sitting up on the, on the buildings and the light poles and man, that don't surprise me, bro. I expected all this. You know what I mean? I expected all this.
Shannon Sharpe
You, if you look at the way they treat their old guard, the Clyde Fraziers, the Earl the Pearls, Willis Reed, I think, I don't know if he's still alive. Bill Bradley and the Butcher and all those guys, Bird Dog, Bernard King, Mellow.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Can you imagine? I can only imagine what had, had Mellow won a championship. A Bernard King won a championship.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
But hey, hey, Lord. Hey, but this group of guys right here, now, the team is gonna look different next year. Dolan has already told you, I ain't going to the second April. Yeah, I ain't going to second April. So don't be coming to my. Can we keep this team together? I'm not going until the second apron. Y' all take whatever y' all want to take from that. But this group of guys right here, as you mentioned, World Wide Web, and all those guys that put this team together, congratulations, man. That is unbelievable. There's nothing like having that parade. I was fortunate enough to. To go to one. Well, we had three, but I went to one. And to see 600, 700, 000 fans out there all in orange. It's an unbelievable. It's an unbelievable. And I can just imagine what the Knicks, that was almost 30 years ago for us, but the Knicks, I, I
Joe Johnson
think, I think the coolest thing for me. Okay, Ocho. When I'm watching everything kind of unfold, you look at the older Knicks guys, the, the Larry Johnsons, the, you know, you look at mellow, you know, these are two different generations. All these guys in the parade, as if they. Which they have to, to a degree, you feel me. And I enjoy seeing that part because, bro, they love that Knicks players, bro, past or present, you know, they do. I'm talking about they, they will do whatever so to get it. So for those guys to get a chance to ride on and ride through this parade, to enjoy New York City at probably his highest moment, you know, I, I think it's a blessing, bro. It's a real blessing.
Kayla or Female Co-host
And you know, also, Uncle Joe, it's a good thing. And it says a lot about not just Nick's organization, but also says a lot about the person who able to green light everything. And he gets a lot of flack, a lot of flat. And Dolan gets a lot of flack on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Kayla or Female Co-host
And, you know, he's one who's been able to green like this because most of the time I understand the issue the. Which have been brought to my attention between Charles Oakley and Mr. Dolan, and obviously it's unfortunate, but some of these other players, you know, that played in the past that have always been front and center, that have supported the Knicks, whether doing good or whether doing bad, they've always been there. They've been there. So it's A kudos to Mr. Dolan and that organization for allowing them to be a part of that parade. The blood, sweat and tears and all the hours that they put in during their time and their tenure is and trying to achieve, you know, what today's Knicks players have been able to do just Being able to celebrate them in enough, it feels the void that they couldn't.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Wes has done an unbelievable job. He comes in, he rebuilds the team, he fires Thibodeau, you know, the trade for Cat and swap Cat for Gina Randle DiVincenzo. But you know, that, that had to go. Cause he didn't want to break up that villain over poor Pack. Yeah, he's done an unbelievable. He's done an unbelievable job. And like you said, Ocho. Yeah, Dolan does take a lot of criticism, but I don't think he changed a thing, especially how it worked out because at the end of the day, and think Frank Sinatra, he said he did it his way.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Did it his way. And so, yeah, I. I wish. Of all things, like I said, I wish old could have been a part of this because he gave so much to that organization. Unfortunately, he and. And Dolan are butting heads. I think for the most part, the large part of the contingent of New York, they know Oak laid it on the line for them.
Calm News Advocate
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Shannon Sharpe
For decade. But, you know, things help. Hopefully one day cooler heads will prevail. Hey, nobody would have thought that Jordan and. And Barkley would come back around and see things eye to eye. And it seemingly that that's happening. And so hopefully when it's all said and done, when you realize the petty differences that we may or may not have. Yes. It really isn't worth it. And so hopefully Oak and Dolan will be able to work these things out, sit down and have a conversation and. And move on. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I want to give. I want to give Mike Brown a lot of credit to Uncle Ocho. You know, I think. I think some of the adjustments that he made coming to New York, meaning putting the ball in Cat hands and letting them be a decision maker and not being so Brunson heavy, you know, throughout the games. I think it helped make them. It made them a better team, bro. It made them a lot better team, you know, because they were less predictable. You know, you had so many guys involved, whether it was og, Bridges, Hart, Brunson. Cat. You got guys coming off the bench who played big minutes. Alvarado, I think probably, you know, especially those last two games when. When he threw Alvarado in there when they were down 29 and then in the Garden and they end up coming back winning a game. He played some significant minutes in that game. Five too. In. In.
Shannon Sharpe
He pushed all the runners.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir. So I want to give him his credit, bro. He. He's a hell of A coach who's been there. I think he won one as assistant coach, but now as a head coach, I'm sure it feels a lot sweeter, especially being in New York. I've seen the clips of him having a great time, which he should, and it's amazing to see, bro. It's amazing to see.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I think I, I agree with you, Joe. And I think the thing is, is that, like, when you in Cleveland, it didn't work out. Wasn't he at the Lakers, too? Did what? Didn't he coach? I know he coached Sacramento. He coached somewhere.
Joe Johnson
He was in Golden State for a while.
Shannon Sharpe
I know he, I know he coached Golden State because I think he coached a couple of games when Steve Kerr was having that issue with his back.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, let me see.
Shannon Sharpe
But I think the thing is, like, when you don't have the success that you think now, he was successful in Cleveland, you know, he was coach of the year. They won 66 games, they went to the NBA Finals. LeBron was 22 years of age, ran into that juggernaut sport, spurs team with Duncan Manu and Tony Parker. But, you know, you, you live and you learn and you like, okay, these are some of the mistakes that I made at other stops. Let me not make those mistakes here. Yeah, and it's, it's, it, you know, and I think the thing of a great coach is to understand that when I made mistakes, okay, this is what I did well, this is what I did wrong. Let me try to highlight and accentuate what I did. Good. Let me try to highlight, Let me try to stay away from what I did.
Chad Ochocinco
Bad.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought so. He did coach the Lakers 11 and 12. I, I thought so.
Joe Johnson
I, I, yeah, he took over for Phil Jackson, I think, in 11. 11 and 12. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but this is, like I said, I, I don't, I don't really know Mike Brown, but I, I'm, I'm, I'm put, I pull for him because I, I understand that, you know, he's been one of the fortunate ones that, that, that didn't win a championship with one place and, and go get a job. Normally we get the Adrian Griffith. Oh, we get to see, we get, we get a situation where, you know, guys unceremoniously get released and never to resurface again. We got a guy like Mark Jackson, and I don't know, I still, I want somebody to tell me what happened with him. You hear all these stories, and I don't want to repeat them because I don't know if they're true.
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Shannon Sharpe
But you look at the success that he had, he took teams to the playoffs. He's really the. What started the foundation. And I, and I appreciate Steph and Draymond and Clay giving them credit because he established the foundation of what the Golden State warriors were to become. Unfortunately, kind of like a Tony dungeon in Tampa Ocho, he didn't get to reap the benefits of it.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, but, but when you look at it, Uncle Oo, I'm not even sure Mike Brown was the Knicks first option as far as.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he wasn't. They said he was like 6 or 7, but a lot of people turned it down because they saw how he did the though and they saw that like Jim Dolan is never going to change. That's, that's, that's a never ending battle.
Joe Johnson
So hey, and, and knowing that you coaching in New York, they just came off the Eastern Conference finals. Hell, if you don't get back there, you feel like you probably going to get fired.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, absolutely.
Joe Johnson
So for Mike Brown to take that job, bro, you got to have some cojones, man, because you hired to get fired if you just want to be 100 unless you win it.
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, Joe, had he not gotten back, if they not won the title, it was a failure. Because you, you, you hired Thibodeau. You fired Thibodeau because you felt that. Because, see, I looked at it like this. I felt that the Knicks felt that once they beat Boston, Boston was a team that was in their way. Once they beat Boston, it was smooth sailing.
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Shannon Sharpe
Before you knew it, they were in
Joe Johnson
a battle with the Pacers and nobody
Shannon Sharpe
seen and they're like, hold on, wait a minute. We beat the team that won the championship. We ain't supposed to lose to the damn Pacers.
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Shannon Sharpe
So he built those expectations. It's just like with Ocho. We criticize a player. No, don't criticize us. He built those expectations. Look at all the years that he was great and now he's not playing well. We're not gonna base it on say, oh, but what about. No, no, no, no, no. We creep. We, we, we complimented him. We said he was an all pro. We said he was an mvp. We said he was a DPOY or opoy. Rookie of the Year. We gave him kudos. Nah. The thing I love most about sports is that unlike most jobs where you have to update your resume every three to six months, you got to update your resume if you play basketball damn near every other day. If you play football every single day. That's what I love most about sports. Update that resume do you know the
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Shannon Sharpe
Still sliding that same old ass resume across the table, man. Damn, bro. I see you hadn't changed jobs in a couple of years. Any new references? But this was. This was unbelievable. We either saw OO or Paul George sighting. Check this out.
Joe Johnson
Joe, you seen a. What?
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder)
Ah,
Shannon Sharpe
come on, Paul Georg, that's you
Joe Johnson
with the feet going in.
Shannon Sharpe
That's you with the feet. He's a. Put your hand over that, right? And just.
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Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, hey. There we go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Uncle Joe. Sometimes. Don't matter where you at. Sometimes you got to get it in. You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Kayla or Female Co-host
Sometimes you got to get it in.
Shannon Sharpe
Ah, man, no, no, you can't do. You can't do that. No. Public now.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, hey. Huh? Listen, there was. There was. There was a time, you know, There was a time. But things used to be just like that. It didn't matter.
Shannon Sharpe
Every time was never like that.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. You go to. You go to spring break and you drunk. Y' all remember. Y' all remember MTV spring break, yo? Yeah, man. Of course people was wilding like that.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I've been to spring break, but you drunk, man. Come on, now.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, time out, time out. Don't talk about time out, time out. Let's rewind. Let's settle down a little bit. We talk about somebody sucking toes at the Knicks parade, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Kayla or Female Co-host
You do know we were a part of Freak Meek, right? Let's not act like we've never seen nothing like that in public. And we didn't seem way worse than and with Freak Nick down in Atlanta. Now, I'm not gonna talk about. I'm not gonna tell you about the times I was there, Joe boy, listen now.
Shannon Sharpe
Now you see. Now you talking my language. Cause I was smack dab in the freak.
Kayla or Female Co-host
I was right there with you. I was just a little younger.
Shannon Sharpe
They, they, they. They reached out to me. I got no comment.
Kayla or Female Co-host
I'm saying, hey, when they did. Hey, when they did the documentary.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Why you get on that, man?
Joe Johnson
Tell your story.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. Something, Joe, where you was at.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Where you was at during that time.
Shannon Sharpe
By the time Joe got that land, it was done. I mean, back there and this and the heart, basically from about 92 to about 97. Was that the afterbut the absolute apex.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Apex, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Would that be.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely apex?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about.
Joe Johnson
I was still in high school here.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, Joe, I. I was a. I was a freshman. I was a freshman in college, and I had opportunity to go out there. That's. That's when it was.
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Joe Johnson
You could have.
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Kayla or Female Co-host
I was a baby. I ain't really, because I was. I wasn't shy, but I'm outside of my element based on what I've been able to see, because grandma kept me kind of somewhat sheltered a little bit. It was new to me, and I just remember what I saw.
Joe Johnson
Okay, well, I know you. Y' all don't take me for a guy for guys who do public fornication. Y' all don't take me for those kind of guys. Yeah, you be out, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
I do. I do take you.
Kayla or Female Co-host
That.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you number one. But, but, but I would say somebody said, man, so as a matter of fact, I was having a conversation today. They're like, man, Joe. They said, man, Joe, be real quiet. I said, man, Joe, got your food. I said, joe, present that shy. That shy brother image. That shy little brother. I said, man, Joe, shut up. Hey, why did you
Joe Johnson
want to put that jacket on me? It don't fit me, man.
Shannon Sharpe
It's your size. It's an extra large. Extra large, extra long. That's the size you wear. He got. We got an extra large extra long jacket for him. That's the size he weighed.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you think you fooling us? You ain't fooling us. I can see.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you ain't fooled me. What you mean?
Joe Johnson
I ain't the one who's going to freaknik and doing all this. I wasn't doing all that.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you weren't old enough. Had you been older, your ass to be right. Let freaknet have us. Listen. Your ass.
Joe Johnson
Listen. That was before my time, man. That was before my time. But I already know. I already know y' all went down there and cut up. I knew. Well, I already Know, as a matter
Kayla or Female Co-host
of fact, he ain't go to freak me, but I guarantee he made up for it.
Shannon Sharpe
He made up for it.
Joe Johnson
You.
Kayla or Female Co-host
You. Oh, Joe, you made. You made up for it, I believe,
Shannon Sharpe
going to another black college beach week. Freak Nick Orange Crush. I mean, Daytona. Daytona got a black college spring break.
Kayla or Female Co-host
I got another one for you too. Now, hold on, hold on.
Joe Johnson
What's that?
Kayla or Female Co-host
The classic. The classic family Bethune at the end.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I heard about that.
Kayla or Female Co-host
And don't forget about Memorial Day in Miami.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See that? What go. Oh, when I was. When, when, when, you know, I. When I got to get out there and cut a buck, they were. They was out there like that.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, let me tell y' all something. Well, when I first. When I first heard about Miami, I was in the league, meaning, like I had never really been out there and hung out. Uncle O, I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, but me and the homies went out there and I, I said, you know what? I got a guy out there who say he gonna train me. We can go out there, train I, you know, work out and party. We was only supposed to be out there for three days, man. Was out there for two months. All right? We out there for two months. I'm talking about. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
How three days turn into two months, y'. All.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you know how I go, man. You get out there, you go to mingling, and next thing you know, you like. Well, I think I can stay a couple extra days of one week.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, babe.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, they black. Black college beach week, man. Hey, boy, I put that on the road. Tallahassee, Atlanta, South Carolina. Hey, if you had a 400 mile radius. I'm coming, I'm coming. Hey, freak the guy I ended up. Hey, I told, I told Shell. I said, look here. The camcorder, they got everything recorded for from 90, from Freaknik and, and, and. And black college beak week. So basically 90, 91, 92, and it got 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97. Put that down with me. As a matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do? You gotta.
Joe Johnson
You gotta go back and look at it at nine. And look, I. Wait, hold on, hold on.
Kayla or Female Co-host
This is what he need to do. Uncle Joe, you saw Paid in full, huh? Remember Cameron? Remember Cameron character when they was in the club and he showed the whole footage? Yeah, you need to get that freaknick footage and show it on Nightcap.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Hell no. Look here. Some of them women, I'm. I'm almost certain are married. I'm so sure some of them are grandmas. No, leave that alone.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Just. Just blur the face out, man.
Shannon Sharpe
No, my grandma used to say, boy, staring up old ish, it still smell.
Joe Johnson
I know what you're looking for, because I got. I got a couple camcorders with some SIM cards in there. That's. That got some stuff on that, boy, from back when I was in Miami. Boat parties and all. Yeah,
Shannon Sharpe
and house parties. Oh, boy, the house party was off the chain.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hold on, Joe. What you were doing on the party?
Joe Johnson
I mean, we, you know, we just having a little fun, you know.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hold on, I can't hear you.
Joe Johnson
Take your time. I said we were having a little fun. Okay. Yeah, it probably. Yeah, it probably about. It's probably about. About 8 to 1 on there. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, about 8 to 1 on now. Yeah. Hey, hey, that's a good time.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Joe, you know, it get a little hot. You already know Young Shake about it.
Joe Johnson
You got that thing you.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, what bad was I? Yeah, bad.
Joe Johnson
Look here, I already know.
Shannon Sharpe
Dang. Nah. Oo, you know, some things. Some things. You know what? Just. You survived it.
Joe Johnson
Like I said.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm glad I'm old enough, because some of the things that were going on, I didn't need to see, and I damn sure didn't need to be in the vicinity while it was happening.
Joe Johnson
Hello?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, because I don't see. Boy, look here. Yeah, that right there, what you saw. What you. That ain't nothing right there.
Joe Johnson
Oh,
Kayla or Female Co-host
that was. That was elementary.
My Favorite Murder Host
What?
Kayla or Female Co-host
Please, Joe, you was in Miami already, so I ain't really. I ain't really got to tell you,
Joe Johnson
but y' all want the freak Nick, though.
Shannon Sharpe
Freak?
Joe Johnson
Me? Hey, man, I heard some stories, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe, you gotta realize. Hold on. I'm. I'm 24, 25, 26, 27. The first time I went to Black College beach week in Daytona, I had just. I was 21 walking down the street. Joe, I'm talking about, hey, me and my homeboy, we done got to. Went to the gym and pumped up
Joe Johnson
and I tore up. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, Good man, you bad. You ought to see pulling over. Good God about it. Hey, they said, where you go to? I said, I'm in Savannah St. I'm hbc. Say I go to Fam. I said, well, I was like, what Fam? At Tallahassee. I said, you know what? It's funny that you mentioned that. I got a coach that Culture Taylor has it. I've been wanting to visit him. I'LL be down there in two weeks. Oh, boy. I was out like a scout of the new route.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Oh, boy, it was some fun days.
Joe Johnson
Boy, they were.
Shannon Sharpe
They. They. Yeah, I don't. I. I can't. I can't go back. I'm glad. Like, you know what? As I. When I. I had my. All my kids together and I'mma have Jordan to post the picture. Picture.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
My kids don't have none of my personality. I mean, some of it, like, not like my daughter Kayla, she kind of like, quiet. She kind of like to herself. She moody, explosive personality. But as far as like that, none of them took that from me. I'm talking about none of them. They got all they.
Joe Johnson
Mom.
Shannon Sharpe
I say thank you, Jesus. Thank you.
Joe Johnson
I can't. I can't say the same. I can't say the same.
Kayla or Female Co-host
They got your personality, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
I wouldn't.
Joe Johnson
Nah. My daughter. My daughter and my youngest son. Dude, my oldest son, he. He a little different, Uncle Ocho. I got.
Shannon Sharpe
I got.
Joe Johnson
I gotta keep my eye on his ass.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he different.
Joe Johnson
He different, you know? Yeah. Hey, but I'm just keeping it real with y'. All chat. Y' all hear me out. I done called him a few times, you know, doing some. Doing some stuff he ain't got no damn business doing.
Kayla or Female Co-host
You gotta think about it now, when you was at age.
Joe Johnson
I was his age, Ocho, I wasn't doing that, bro. You know, I was too locked in. I was too locked in, you know what I mean? On what it was I was trying to accomplish, you know what I'm saying? And, yeah, you know how it is, man. You know, but, but, but when you get up in them age 17, 18, 19, your hormones go to raising as a young man. And boy, look, you looking to get
Shannon Sharpe
that thing wet at the end of the day.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You like Chris, are you Right? You like Christopher Columbus?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Trying to go sailing now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm going exploit. Hey, I'm a gelling. I'm going to discover. I'm gonna discover something, man. I don't know where, but I'm gonna discover something. Hey, but no, but I. But, but I. I look. I look at my kids and sometimes I catch them. I was like, damn, my son. My son had two girlfriends his entire life. He broke up with the one and then he married the other one. He'd been married for, I think, five years. My daughters, I'm talking about, they nothing. Nothing like me, right? I'm talking about absolutely nothing. I knock on wood. Thank you, Jesus. But I Just knew I was like, man, God gonna pay me back for this. He got to.
Joe Johnson
That's what I'm saying, bro. Real talk. I. I can't make this up. Okay, Ocho, check this out. So when my son was in, he had to be about. He had to be about eighth grade, ninth grade. So, you know, he said, man, he, you know, he playing at a basketball game. So I did a basketball game. He said, dad, can my girlfriend come over? This is school night. It's already about 9 o', clock. School night. He said, making my girlfriend come over for, you know, a couple hours. You know me.
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Joe Johnson
I'm like, yeah, man, she can come over. So she come over. Now, I'm keeping a close eye. I'm like, y' all sit y' all ass in the kitchen on the couch, you know, watch tv. Ain't no going to the bedroom. There ain't gonna be none of that. You know what I mean? Just keeping it 100. So I leave them in the kitchen. So when I do come back in the kitchen, I'm making noise because I want you to know I'm coming in case you're trying to do something sneak. You need to get.
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Joe Johnson
You need to get right about two, three times, I guess they had done got comfortable. Hell, I come back through there. By the third time, the lights off.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm like, damn.
Joe Johnson
Lights off in this.
Shannon Sharpe
I come in there.
Joe Johnson
I come in the kitchen, Uncle O. I turn the lights, I'm like, damn, why it's so dark in here, boy? It ain't nobody in the kitchen.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Nobody in the kitchen, Uncle OO. But to the right, to the right of the living room, it's a bathroom light on. And I can see people in there moving around. And I'm like, I'm not. Hey, hey, man, y' all come on, man. She gotta go home, bro. You gotta go.
Shannon Sharpe
What's going on?
Joe Johnson
So. So that's why I say, boy, listen, because it's stuff like that I wouldn't have never tried with my mama.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Joe Johnson
You feel what I'm saying?
Shannon Sharpe
No, hey, no. First of all, I was too embarrassed because we didn't have no indoor plumbing. Have nothing. So what? Nobody coming to the house. And even when we got the new house. What? No, I could. I couldn't. Good conscious, right?
Joe Johnson
Have.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Now, I ain't say in the driveway, in the car, but, hey, you ain't coming in the house.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey, that's funny.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, nah, nah.
Kayla or Female Co-host
And Joe. Hey, you. Hey, Joe, Light.
Joe Johnson
When you were cocking Blocking like a mug. Let me tell you something, boy. You think you finna bring a child in here and you a child? You think.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, please. Exactly.
Joe Johnson
We ain't doing that. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
They are. They already. Hey, I had my daughter, Joe. Hey, boy, you thought I was jogging Anthony Muno the way I was blocking. Hey, I had that time on the door every time. Hey, come on, look here. I said, guys. Cause all her friends stayed, they stayed over. I said, look, I said, I'm responsible for y', all, right? I said, if y' all can't do right, y' all gonna need to go.
Joe Johnson
That's all I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
I said, ain't gonna be no sneaking, ain't gonna be no go curling on like that. I said, y' all just need to go. I said, kayla, I'm sorry, baby, they gonna just have to go home. I said. Cause y' all done told everybody y' all at Mr. Shannon's house, and I'm responsible for you.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
I said, ain't nobody. I said, ain't no. I said, ain't nobody coming over here.
Kayla or Female Co-host
I didn't. I didn't had that problem already, Joe. Now, my old. My older daughters, you know, they. I mean, they grown. They grown, grown, you know, got their car, they working, you know, doing their thing. My 11 year old baby Kennedy. After school, school over. Daddy, you know school is over. I just want to know because some of my friends come over and we have a sleepover. Hey, listen, Mama, we not doing that because I'm not being responsible for nobody kids.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly.
Kayla or Female Co-host
Nothing that happened over here. Now, I know you're only 11. You probably ain't doing nothing wrong. You probably. Probably innocent. But even still, I don't want nobody kids under my supervision. And I act like a child myself
Joe Johnson
because you know what? You know what they don't understand, bro. We was once 17, 18, 19 once trying to be sneaky. Man, I know all these damn tricks you trying to pull up in here.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, man,
Kayla or Female Co-host
you know. You know I'm a grandfather now. Yeah, see, you know, cj. CJ got a. CJ got a little dog. I think my son, daughter, she four or five again. We're getting ready to be five.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, yeah, man, look here, man. I thought I would sleep. I. I didn't like I wait to my grandma go to sleep, man.
Joe Johnson
I ease out the house.
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know until much years later, Libby say, Granny say, Libby, I prayed many a night for that boy. Mmm. I'm thinking I'm being sleep. Hey, she's I'm thinking she's sleep right
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Angel Reese DOMINATES Caitlin Clark & Fever + Knicks CHAMPIONSHIP Parade + Who is SUCKING TOES At the Parade?! + Iso Joe DRY SNITCHES on Son
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe "Iso Joe" Johnson
This lively episode finds Shannon Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Iso Joe discussing Angel Reese’s pivotal performance against Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever in the WNBA, breaking down the impact of young stars on the league. The crew also dives into the euphoria of the Knicks' long-awaited championship parade, reflects on sports storylines and legacies, and shares candid, hilarious personal stories—including some wild footage from the Knicks parade that leads to a funny debate about public antics and "freaknik" memories.
[04:32 – 14:00]
Game Recap & Angel Reese’s Impact
"She is a lunch pail lady... Gonna give you second chance opportunities, dominate the glass... You can win a championship with her." (Shannon Sharpe, 09:50)
Changing the League's Trajectory
"It's hard for me to process when I see these girls being jealous... everybody not gonna be able to do that in the pros." (Joe Johnson, 10:54)
The Power of a Compelling Sports Story
"Sports are about stories. The better the story, the more compelling it is to watch." (Shannon Sharpe, 11:40)
[14:00 – 17:30]
The Weight of Expectations
"She’s unapologetically herself. Make no apologies for who you are. Take it or leave it." (Shannon Sharpe, 15:35)
Knowing and Embracing Your Niche
"Find out what your niche is...they can teach you everything but how to play hard." (Shannon Sharpe, 26:33)
[29:05 – 40:20]
Celebration Scenes
"I don't know if anybody treats their celebs and their fans...to be in the parade, to walk and get the love and adoration that the players receive." (Shannon Sharpe, 30:06)
Legacy & Old Guard Appreciation
"The way they had Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston...those guys there damn near every game—that is amazing to see." (Shannon Sharpe, 31:18)
Coach Mike Brown’s Redemption Arc
"The thing of a great coach is to understand that...when I made mistakes, let me try to stay away from what I did bad." (Shannon Sharpe, 38:13)
New York’s Place in NBA Storytelling
"If you win a championship in New York, you gonna be goated forever." (Joe Johnson, 31:46)
[45:23 – 48:57]
Chaos at the Parade
"Sometimes you just gotta get it in, you hear me?" (Kayla, 46:17)
"Ah man, no, no, you can't do that. Not in public now." (Shannon Sharpe, 46:18)
Reminiscing Freaknik & College Beach Weeks
"Some of them women—I’m almost certain—are married...leave that alone." (Shannon Sharpe, 52:10)
"Some things...just, you survived it." (Shannon Sharpe, 53:26)
[56:06 – 61:44]
Candid Parenting Tales
"I’ve caught him a few times...doing some stuff he ain’t got no damn business doing." (Joe Johnson, 56:22)
"When you were cock-blocking like a mug. You think you finna bring a child in here and you a child?" (Joe Johnson, 60:01)
The Generational Gap
On Angel Reese’s Impact:
"She’s a lunch pail lady...you can win a championship with her." – Shannon Sharpe [09:50]
On Sports Stories:
"Sports are about stories. The better the story, the more compelling it is to watch." – Shannon Sharpe [11:40]
On Knowing Your Role:
"Find out what your niche is...they can teach you everything but how to play hard." – Shannon Sharpe [26:33]
On Knicks Parade Mayhem:
"Sometimes you just gotta get it in, you hear me?" – Kayla [46:17]
About Taking Parent Responsibility:
"When you were cock-blocking like a mug. You think you finna bring a child in here and you a child?" – Joe Johnson [60:01]
True to Nightcap’s brand, the episode is a mix of insightful sports analysis, unapologetic real talk, riotous storytelling, and playful trash talk. The dialogue moves between game breakdowns, sharp cultural commentary, and nostalgia, all with the warmth and bravado of veterans who’ve seen—and done—it all.
For fans and newcomers, this episode is a quintessential blend of Nightcap humor, sports wisdom, and pure entertainment.