Nightcap Hour 2: Mitch Johnson DOUBLES DOWN on De’Aaron Fox + Giannis to BOSTON Heating UP + LeBron ROCKING the GREY

Summary

Nightcap – Hour 2: Mitch Johnson Doubles Down on De’Aaron Fox + Giannis to Boston Heating Up + LeBron Rocking the Grey (June 13, 2026)

Overview

On this episode of Nightcap with Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson – joined by guest Joe (analyst/commentator) – the trio dives deep into the hottest ongoing NBA discussions. The key talking points: defending De’Aaron Fox as he faces criticism, the possibility of Giannis Antetokounmpo being traded to Boston, and LeBron James making headlines by embracing his grey beard. They also reminisce about tough coaching styles, the grind of old-school practices, and the mentality it takes to thrive in pressure-packed moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mitch Johnson Defends De’Aaron Fox Amid Criticism

The Heat on Fox

• Shannon introduces the topic: “There’s been a lot of heat on De’Aaron Fox in the last 48 hours. Let’s take a listen to Ms. Johnson and Fox had to say about all this criticism.” (02:42)
• Mitch Johnson (coach): Dismisses social media noise, emphasizing internal team unity and confidence in Fox.

  “I care what the people that matter in our building, in our organization, in that locker room… De’Aaron Fox will have the ball in his hands at the end of the game and I have nothing but the most confidence that he’s going to deliver like he’s done countless times for us.” (03:15)

Handling Public Pressure

• Ocho on today’s athletes: “Obviously your coach is going to always back you in front of the camera… But social media, they make sure it get to you one way or another.” (05:07)
• Shannon Sharpe: “It’s the mistakes happen… it’s the repeat.” (06:16)
• Sharpe breaks down the final play and Fox’s difficult choices, pointing out how breakdowns happen under pressure:

  “They were so out of position, everybody was scrambling… the most dangerous guy on a play is the guy that’s taking the ball out of bounds.” (06:23)

Accountability & Growth

• Joe: “OG had two of the biggest plays in finals history – the block and the damn tip-in… But for Fox, there’s no way around it, fellas. He got to be better, man. He got to be better down the stretch.” (07:21)
• Shannon: “And I don’t have a problem with Ms. Johnson. He bears some culpability, too… I’m gonna call timeout and I’m gonna get in there. Hey, stop shooting them damn threes! We don’t need three with 18 seconds on the clock. Get the clock.” (07:54)
• Sharpe jokes about the pressure of clutch free throws:

  “If you turned the sound up, you’d heard that – that’s the knees knocking. I don’t seen bridges wobble less at an earthquake than what them knees were wobbling at that free throw line.” (08:22)

Lessons on Clutch Performers

• Sharpe: “Very few players are comfortable being uncomfortable… You see why Jordan was so clutch? Because as a freshman, Dean Smith put the ball in his hand in the final seconds.” (11:08, 10:14)
• Ocho: “They know we need the play. They know who to get that ball to, boy.” (13:13)

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2. Old-School Coaching & Player Mentality

Practice Stories and Tough Love

• The hosts swap stories of grueling practices and how tough coaches shaped their mentality.
• Shannon remembers a coach starting practice over because of poor performance, saying:

  “We 10, 15 minutes from ending practice. This man start practice all the way back over, Joe, from stretching.” (15:32)

• Joe shares: “Man, don’t y’all know, the next day [after a bad loss], he let the vets sleep in and made just us three [rookies] go to practice… ran us in the ground, bro. I was like, damn!” (15:59)

Coaching Styles: Cursing & Motivation

• Shannon: “I told Coach Davis early on... I can handle a lot. I said, but don’t yell at me.” (25:55)
• Ocho on growing up with harsh coaching:

  “That’s why I have such a hard time being able to hold conversations without cursing, because it just... that’s how we got coached.” (33:02)

• Discussion about how different backgrounds (city vs rural/coaching) shaped their reaction to tough coaching.

Teamwork & Integrity

• Shannon on helping teammates:

  “How does that help us if he don’t know what he got? … In order for the system to flow smoothly, you need to know what the f*** to do. But people don’t think like that.” (39:18)

• Sharpe references his therapist’s advice:

  “Your biggest mistake is to think everybody thinks like you… Just because you wouldn’t do something, doesn’t mean others won’t.” (38:11)

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3. Giannis-to-Boston Trade Rumors Heat Up

Trade Speculation

• Shannon dives into a hot topic: “Yanis to Boston rumors, Ocho, Joe, they’re heating back up. Kevin O’Connor reignited the Giannis trade discourse.” (44:18)
• O’Connor says the Celtics will deal anyone but Tatum to get Giannis.

  “Boston is open to trading anybody besides Jason Tatum…” (44:24)

Would Boston Really Trade Jaylen Brown?

• Shannon: “All things being equal, I’ve always felt they would trade JB before they ever got rid of JT.” (45:17)
• Joe: “It has to be some truth to this rumor… if Boston can get Giannis, obviously you gotta trade JB… But it’s hard to break up JB and JT because I think they both 1A.” (45:27)
• Joe points out Giannis’s recent injury issues, but emphasizes Brown’s durability and two-way skill:

  “The injuries have been kind of mounting up on Giannis the past few years… And JB, he plays, bro.” (46:04, 46:51)

Breaking Down a Mock Three-Team Trade

• Shannon reads out a proposed three-team scenario:

  “Here’s a three-team reported trade: Giannis to Boston, Jalen Brown to Atlanta… Boston gets Giannis and the Hawks 2029 first round pick; Milwaukee gets White, Kaminga, two Hawks 2026 firsts, two future Celtics firsts; Atlanta gets Brown and Dieng…” (52:00)

Concerns and Analysis

• Sharpe’s perspective: “That deal… would have to already be in place [for Giannis’s new contract]. You’d be a damn fool to trade for Giannis with one year left on that contract and not got a long term deal.” (48:57)
• Joe: “You ain’t gonna get that [defensive pressure] as great as Giannis is, you’re not gonna get that full-court press, man-to-man in your face, like JB brings.” (47:50)

Historical Context & Fan Reaction

• Playful banter on following NBA history and how internet fans react to moves like this.

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4. LeBron James “Rocking the Grey” Goes Viral

• Shannon: “The Internet has a lot of thoughts about LeBron rocking the grey beard. He got that, he got that skunk going…” (53:16)
• Joe jokes: “He had time to put that Just For Men in there.” (53:26)
• Lighthearted exchange about aging in the public eye.

  “I’m literally old enough to be his dad. And he got me!” (53:47, Shannon)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On handling criticism:

  “People have their opinions… I don’t care. I care what the people that matter in our building, in our organization, in that locker room.” – Mitch Johnson (03:15)

• On clutch performance:

  “Very few players are comfortable being uncomfortable.” – Shannon Sharpe (11:08)

• On old-school coaching:

  “Coach Davis said, ‘Son, if you come in here four years and getting the education can’t improve your life, y’all might as well just go on back home, man.’” – Shannon Sharpe (24:57)

• On trade rumors:

  “Boston is open to trading anybody besides Jason Tatum… this feels very, very real to me, Joe.” – Shannon Sharpe (44:24)

• On being a good teammate:

  “How does that help us if he don’t know what he got? … In order for the system to flow smoothly, you need to know what the f*** to do.” – Shannon Sharpe (39:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |-----------|--------------| | 02:42 | “Heat” on De’Aaron Fox & Coach Mitch Johnson’s response | | 04:47 | Hosts react to Fox, handling criticism | | 06:17 | Breakdown of final play, importance of late-game decisions | | 08:22 | Clutch free throws under pressure (knees knocking) | | 10:14 | Michael Jordan’s clutch origin story | | 14:33 | Old-school practice horror stories | | 24:57 | Life lessons and mentality from tough coaches | | 33:02 | Shannon & Ocho on coaching styles (cursing vs. constructive feedback) | | 39:18 | On teamwork and helping teammates | | 44:18 | Giannis-to-Boston trade rumors discussion starts | | 45:17 | Would Boston move Jaylen Brown or Jayson Tatum? | | 52:00 | Detailed breakdown of a proposed three-team trade | | 53:16 | Viral talk: LeBron and the grey beard | | 53:47 | Jokes about aging, LeBron and Sharpe’s own grey |

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Podcast Tone

• The vibe is lively, unfiltered, and conversational – with lots of sports wisdom, a few rants, and plenty of humor.
• Shannon often brings comic relief, sharing lessons from his career and reacting animatedly.
• Ocho and Joe add athlete perspectives and authenticity, making the show relatable for fans and current players alike.

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Takeaways

Nightcap continues to be a go-to for real locker room talk, breaking down headline stories, confronting player legacies and pressure, and bringing fans into the mindset of elite athletes and seasoned pros. If you care about NBA rumor mills, how players handle the heat, and what makes a clutch athlete, you’ll want to catch this hour.

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Skip to:

• [02:42] for Fox discussion
• [06:17] for late-game breakdown
• [44:18] for Giannis trade talk
• [53:16] for LeBron banter

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Transcript

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[Mitch (Basketball Coach or Analyst)]

Mitch, looking back too, was there anything that could have been done differently on OG's tip in after looking at the film and also dear and is getting a lot of heat for decisions that he made in the game. Is that difficult to hear knowing that all he did to get you guys to help get you guys in this position? Yeah, you know I can't speak for everybody else. You know I don't get into social media. I think I've probably been fired 212 times and we traded Fox 72 times. You know, unfortunately we still got to show up and play tomorrow and I got to coach. So the people that matter, we bond together, we stick together through the highs and lows and you know we were I think chosen to be in the play in and so there's a lot of things that happen. Fox and I were fortunate enough to experience all star weekend together. We got a lot of positive after that and we lost a tough game in the finals that we had a lot to do with in terms of we had control to walk that thing down and that's what comes with the job. That's, that's not more or less and you know I people have their opinions here. What they say, I don't care. I care what the people that matter in our building, in our organization, in that locker room that they know how I feel and I hear them and how they feel and de' Aaron Fox will have the bonus hands at the end of the game and I have nothing but the most confidence that he's going to deliver like he's done countless times for us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not like people have my phone number can call me like, like, I mean I don't watch those shows. I don't it doesn't matter. It is what it is. Can't change it now and just coming up yelling at you in your face about it. So it is what it is.

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We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're trying to move on from that, obviously continue to learn from the mistakes that we made and how we, you know, lost the leader, how we finished the game poorly. But we think about the next game.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Man, that's hard to believe. Fellas, in this day and time, you hear every damn thing that said about.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Of course, always, always. But obviously your coach, your coaches are going to always back you. Your coach is going to say, oh, yeah, things in front of camera. He's going to be politically correct. Darian Fox. And his answer, you hear everything. People don't need to be in your face because social media, they make sure it get to you one way or another. If it don't get to you from us, it get to us. But from the closest person to you, they gonna mention it. You got homeboys, you got homeboys, they're gonna mention it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

That's just the way it is in general.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you drop a page home. Hey, man. Bro, you all right?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

That's my homeboy. Hey, hold on. They making fun of me, huh? Man, you. Hey, boy, you sorry as hell, boy.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mid game, they own you. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey. As a matter of fact, I told a story one time. Hey, Burns up and said, man. Dude called said, man. Tell him. He said, man, tell Sharp to lighten up on me, man. That's. That's been 30 years ago. He said he ain't moved past that yet. No, I ain't gonna get over it. I know we can't get that game back, but still, I still feel some type of way about it. It's the mistakes happen.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the repeat. It's the repeat.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even the last play, think about. They were so out of position, everybody was scrambling because they tried. First of all, it seemed like they was trying. I don't know if that was the plan, because if you go back and look at the top, always the guy. The most dangerous guy on a play is the guy that's taking the ball out of bounds. Go back and look at the North Carolina shot that. That guy hit.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who hit the three point shot, Joe? He was the guy that took the ball out of bounds.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was the last one come up the court. And what did the guy do? He kicked it to him and he stepped into a three.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy that tipped the ball in, you know, OG has to know we will threw the ball in.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I don't know if this was a plan, but it looked like Fox was about to leave OG he kind of got half holly between to try to go double Brunson. Yeah, yeah, he was in the process of that. I mean, it's all. Not everybody's off out of kilter. Yeah. So now OG have a clear path. He's tracking the ball. They're like, well, hey, hey, do I go. Block me out. Let me go.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, man, listen. OG had two of the biggest plays in finals history. The block. Yeah. And the damn tip in. Hey, that. That, that. That man has been unbelievable. But. But for Fox, there's no way around it, fellas. He got to be better, man. He got to be better down the street.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Simple as that.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

It just ain't. Ain't no if, ands, or bus about it, man. Take that accountability and come out because obviously it's still a fight to be fought. You got to come out and. And try to do whatever you can to win this game. Five at home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And I don't have a problem with Ms. Johnson. He bears some culpability, too.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I'm gonna call time out and I'm gonna get in there. You know what? Hey, stop shooting them damn threes. We don't need three with 18 seconds on the clock. Get the clock. Listen, I don't want anybody unless you got a dunk or layup. If you shoot that ball before 10 seconds, I'm gonna snatch your ass out of the game.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you gotta look, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Look at the clutch free throws that when we missed. He missed two free throws down the street.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, Joe, you didn't hear that. If you turned the sound up, you'd heard that. That's the knees knocking. All you had to do is turn the volume up. You heard his knees knocking. Hey, hey. I don't seen bridges wobble less at an earthquake than what women knees was wobbling at that fair free throw line. Y' all better stop.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I don't feel bull jive. You know it. I done been. I've been in big time games, and I know.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Them pressure free throws. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that ball speed like. Lord have mercy. Lord, please don't let me drop you. Hey, hey. I'm saying prayer, walking to the line. Lord, if you throw me the ball, please let me catch it. I said, look, Lord, you let me catch this ball, I promise you I'll be your Most trusted servant.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ha. You understand the moment. And if you've never been in those situation, you don't know how you respond until you're in a situation. Everybody said, oh, this is what I would have done, or this is what I would have done. Well, until you're in that situation, you don't know what you would have done.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Absolutely. Absolutely, you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to be in a situation where OO got to catch the game winning touchdown or he needs that catch to keep that drive alive. So I don't know if he'll catch it or not. I'm, I, I'm like, you know what? Ocho gonna catch it. But until we put OO in the fourth quarter with under two minutes to go, and it's fourth down and they throw it in his direction.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Now he knows in that moment, I've been here, I've done that before. I do this in my sleep.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see why, you know why Jordan was so clutch? Because as a freshman, Dean Smith put the ball in his hand when he had big time big game James Worthy on the floor, who was a junior, who was an all American.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had Sam Perkins, they had Brad Daugherty, they had Jimmy Black, they had all those guys on the floor. But he trusted an 18 year old. Swing, swing, swish. He did that as a 17 year old. So as a 23 year old, as a 25 year old, as a 27 year old, tell me what you thinking. He thinking, I'm gonna make this. Damn.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

They're very few players. They're very, very, very few players who are big in moments where it mattered most, where it matters most, where they're comfortable being uncomfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

They're comfortable being uncomfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hear me say it all the time, Joe. My girlfriend tell my brother and I, he said, boys, if I take y' all somewhere, I expect you all to be able to get back.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You take a big shot, you make a big shot. Tell me what the expectations are. You don't think Steph Curry in those moments, think he's not gonna make that shot, man. And all the shots he. All the, all the. Because he's done it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John put me in that situation. I will make the play. Yeah. Because I've made it before.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I believe I can get back again.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yep. Then, hey, hey. And another thing. Hell, you go over these late game situations and practice so much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Like I, you know, I got my fair share of game winners, but all my game winners, bro, I'm talking about. They were plays that were ran and that were positioned for me to get the ball in certain moments and to attack a certain way.

[Mitch (Basketball Coach or Analyst)]

So you.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

You go over those. You go over them so much, bro, it's just. It's second nature. Once the game comes, you know, it seems like everything starts to slow down toward the end of the game. Plus, when your coaches and your teammates believe in you and they believe you really gonna make the shot, it puts it. You know, I don't think it don't. It never put any pressure on me. It just put the belief in me that I could really do it. You know what I mean? And I went out every chance I got. I ain't make every damn last game winning shot. But for the. For the majority, like, you know, I went out and I. I felt confident about every shot that I took.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you know what it's like. Hey, throw Sharpie the ball, man. Throw Ocho the ball. Hey, what we got for Ocho? To hear your offensive lineman say, throw Ocho the ball.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Throw Sharpie the ball.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't even know nothing about no damn play. All they're looking for is. Is the protection. They're looking for red. And are we living? Are we ripping?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are we redirected?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are we mollying or what are we doing? That's all they care about. All that other stuff, flanker drive and 24, double this and all that. They don't give a damn about that.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All they know, man. Throw the ball to Sharpie.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, we need. We need a play.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

They know we need to play. They know who to get that ball to, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, it's simple as that.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, you come in that huddle, it's tie game or y' all down one, and it ain't but like seven, eight seconds left. Hey, they all looking at you like, hey, come on, baby, we need you. It's your time. It's your time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, look, here you go.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

It's your time now. Oh, now it's my damn time now. You want to throw that pressure on me? All right, Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what they ask you. Hey, Sharpie, is that for you? Hey. Oh, so they're like, what the hell? Who's it for? This Sharpie? Yeah.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't called him. I've been holding just like you is.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

You're right. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that. That. That's what gives you confidence in practice when we got two minutes or we going no huddle.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, let's throw it. Hey, Sharpie, let's go in. Let's end practice quick because you know they want a touchdown.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was like, bro, if. Even if I scored a touchdown, you know Mike gonna make us come back, go spot it down 10, 15 yards,

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

gonna reset the ball.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm gonna be pissed cause I'm. I'm gonna be tired because I ran all the way to the end zone. Oh, first down. First down. That's a touchdown, man.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Damn. I remember them days.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I get unsports like Condo. Unsports like conduct.

[Mitch (Basketball Coach or Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm cursing, man. Come on, man. Y' all some bullshit.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, Coach.

[Mitch (Basketball Coach or Analyst)]

Hey.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

At the end of practice, Joe, that two minute. But coach gonna get every scenario possible, man. He gonna create a scenario.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Trust me. I know. O. Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? I hate that, man.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo, I don't know how y' all did. I don't know how y'.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

But we two minute and no huddle. Was always at the end of practice.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah. Always. Always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you the. Were you the most tired?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, hey, you fresh. He like, we not gonna open the game with two minutes.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need you late in the fourth quarter. I need you, you know, or right before the half.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, we don't.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You already know what time it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, boy. It was day, man. Get back with the guy this weekend. I was just like, lord have mercy.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

And you think about all the work y' all put in, the hard work. Them. Them tough days, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think about that time that Mike started that damn practice over. They're like, man, you remember that, Man, I want to fight Mike. Yeah, me too. How dare you gonna start a practice up. We 10 minutes, 15 minutes from ending practice. This man start practice all the way back over Joe from stretching, and we go all the way back to the top. Stretching

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

out bad, bro. Hey, man. Hey, I. I'd have been in some practices. Uncle Ocho, my rookie year. I never forget what was on the West Coast. And we had lost bad. But it was three rookies on the team. Myself, Joe Forte and Kedrick Brown. Man, don't y' all know? The next day, he let Twine and Paul and all the vets sleep in, and he made just us three go to practice, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we did.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

I swear to God, we did an hour and a half practice. Just us three. Three. Man weave, you know, getting. Getting up shots in a certain amount of time. I'm talking about, man, just Ran us in the ground, bro. I was like, damn, why ain't never. Hey, hey, hey. I'm talking about, cuz. Look, you know, in the NBA back then, if you ain't play 20 minutes, you had to get extra cardio in. Hell, we all getting extra cardio in. I ain't playing but about 17 minutes, 15 minutes, them dudes ain't even playing, bro. That man got us out the bed. I'm talking about. Whoa, what's out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you hear me? Yeah, they don't. They don't practice like that anymore. Joe and Ocho. Yeah. Cause I remember we were in college, man. We went up there and stunk up the game. Coach Davis said, goddamn home. He said, I don't want you to wash your goddamn thing. Cause they ain't hit a damn soul. He said, I want everybody at that field with the same issue had on the date. Cause it ain't dirty. I see you at 1. Guess what, one o'. Clock. We dressed in the same stuff that we played the game in that Saturday at the field practicing.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Damn. Hey, that's. Hey, that's when Coach. Hey, he's sick of it. He's sick of he what? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, look here. Coach hall wasn't like that coach all Coach hall was my mom's coach. So he coached my mom, all my uncles, and he coached me and my brother. My mom graduated in 60, I graduated in 86. So he coached my mom and he coached me. Not very many coaches. Now, you ain't gonna find very many coaches coaching coach, mom, dad.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hell no, no, sir, but that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he wasn't like that. But boy, Bill Davis, boy Bill David get butter from a duck. Coach Reeves. Get it, get it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna get. He gonna get it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, holmes, he said, I'm gonna take you to the limit and I'm gonna bring you back real slow.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, three hours in that Savannah heat. If anybody from know about Savannah and them saying that after this 98, 98, 100 with that humidity beaming down and you out there, three hours and you. We putting people on the ground. I know that's better than working in the damn fields. I don't know. I don't know about. I don't know about anybody. If anybody ever had a manual job where they work field labor, your boy good.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, I'm. Hey, listen, them old school coaches don't play, man. I'm talking, I'm talking about. I'm telling you, man, Nolan Richardson, bro, that's the hardest I ever worked in My life okay, Ocho. When I was in college at Arkansas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

You ever heard of 40 minutes of hell, Ocho?

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah, he got it out of you, Joe.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

What Oo. I'm telling you, man, the first hour of practice, you don't even touch no basketball, bro. It's just straight conditioning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first hour, man.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

The first hour he want. When you dead dog tired is when

[Shannon Sharpe]

you get out there and you get

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

to touch a ball, bro. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No water, Joe. I remember the time coach that man, we were so bad coach that said, hell no. I promise you a water break. I lied. You can't do that now, right? Boy, look here. When we go hours.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what the hell you need water for. You he did a damn thing all morning. Started over, Coach. Hey, hey. That football, that's how them old school coaches want. You can't coach like that. Coach get fired now kids are quit.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yes.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Quit.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Quit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wasn't even about vocabulary. It didn't even cross my mind to quit.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, it's easy to quit now though. Here you can go with another school in two weeks. A week. Yeah, you back on another roster?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quit and do what? Because at least I said oh you know what, what's the worst can do? I'm gonna be out here in three hours for three hours in 100 plus degree temperature with the humidity at 90.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or I can take my ass back home and be out there in them fields for 12 hours. Or please for at 100 degree with 90 hum let me see which one I want to do right.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, I'm take this ass chewing all day long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All day. Because guess what?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

This ain't nothing but a pit stop for me. I don't plan on being here too long now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a plan now. I got a plan. I probably ain't told you, but I got a plan. Yeah, I got a plan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing was, Coach Davis said, look here, he said, son, if you come in here four years and getting the education can't improve your life, Y' all might as well just go on back home, man. Cause I just want to know what's at home that can improve your life while you there. Better than getting an education here.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hello, Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, Coach, I just want you to know I ain't say this really here for no education. My job is get to the interfere. Mayor Porter sent me down here for two reasons. Yeah. She said, hey, the first reason for me, I'm going to the next level.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I looked at it, Joe. I'm here. I said, how's it gonna look? I'm here for four years.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm further from getting my degree when I leave than I was when I brought my ass here. So that wasn't even an option. That was my mindset.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And like I said, I told Coach Davis early on, I said, coach, the way I grew up, I can. I can handle a lot. I said, but don't yell at me.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, I'm gonna do everything I possibly can. Because that was. That's why. How I am now.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I hate to get yell at. My. My grandfather was a yeller, and it just. It just broke my heart. And so that put me in a mind frame that I gotta get it right the first time.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get it right the first time. He won't yell.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes even when I got it right, he was still yell. Because I didn't do it like, even though it was right, I didn't do it like he told me to do.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So you had to do it like he told you to do it. You couldn't get it right? Did like, okay. Nah. No, no, no. Like, if you add. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, give you an example, Joe Ocho. If you add something, you got to put the. Okay, this add to one.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you don't add the one. What did I do? Didn't you see me putting the one at the top? I got the same answer. And so Coach. Coach never yelled at me, Never and when we had different offensive coordinators, he would tell them, he say, that one. You don't really address him. I'll handle him. Yeah, see, my junior year, we got a new offensive coordinator. So, you know, he's like, okay, we running box. I'm always one. I was too. Squirrel, the other receiver on the other side, the X receiver, he was number three. So I always started off, Squirrel was behind me. I started off, we stopped running to stop, turn, go, run out five yard, you know, turn and go two, slam three, speed out four depot. So he said, run the three old run to three. So you know what I'm saying, Ocho, you know, the first time I speed, you know, speed out there. 10, roll to 12. Right, right. Run it again. I'm like, all right. You know, I'm gung ho, you know. So this time, Ocho, I run it and break. I don't speed. Cut it and get up out of there. Get up out of there. Yeah, run it again. So now I'm like, hold on. I speed this one, did that one. I said, I'mma do it again. Hey, he knew. He don't know me. I. I ran it again. I speed. Cut it again. Oo, yeah, run it again. I say. I mean, what am I. I said, what? You know, I'm like, what am I doing wrong? He said. I said, run the mo fo route again. Whoa. He say, run the mo p route again. No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Oh, you took it off?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I took the shoulder pads, the helmet off right then and there and walked and walked out the field. Coach David said, hey, Coach David said, oh, where the hell you going? I pointed to the dorm. You know what he said? He said, I told you, don't f with him. I talked to him. I was sitting up in my room. I done went down there. Got me.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went to the cafeteria, ate my dinner. I'm sitting up in my room. I hear a knock. Hey, Joe, don't you all sitting up in my room.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hear a knock on the door. It's open. It's Coach Davis. Damn, home. You the leader. I said, coach, I don't do that cursing. I said, all he had. I asked him what I was doing wrong. He made me run the route three times without telling me what I was doing wrong. And then he gonna curse. He said, home. Do me a favor. I said, what, that coach? Yeah, he dead ass wrong. And I'm gonna chew his ass out when I get to the office. But can you apologize in front of the team. I said, okay, Coach.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. How was, how was your relationship?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

You and the coach that did the cussing, how was your relationship after that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, we, we were cool, but it wasn't, it was, it was, it wasn't what it could have been.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, it, it was, it, it's hard to explain. And the man ain't here to defend himself, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna leave it at that. But there's some stuff that happened.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That shouldn't have happened. But you know how it is. Hey, it is. You gotta realize, Ocho, now, I got, I'm the big. I got a brother in the league, bro. I got the, I got one of the two most expensive cars damn near Savannah.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got, I get everything I want. When we go to the mall, like, we start the Morrisons to go get something to eat. I'm the only one walking in the mall. I got $500,000 in my pocket.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm coming back with, with Macy's shopping bags. Riches.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Come on, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we. I go get anything I want.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So there was a lot of envy because. But it, it, I still work my ass off.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My brother told me, hey, bro, I, hey, you score a touchdown, I'm going see you $50. You get 100 yard game, bro. I get 200. I get four touchdowns and 200 yards. Yeah, my brother kept me with money. Cause that's how I am now. I'm in a better situation. I take care of him. Yeah, he was in a better situation after college. He took care of me. But I did, I didn't do that, bro. All you had to do is just tell me, say, look, this is how I want you to run the route. But you're gonna talk about. I say run the mofo route again, boy, I snap that stuff off. So kick. Wap, wap. Gone.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, hey, Uncle Joe. I, I, I had to take it with a grain of salt. My thing is, see, I never said nothing back. And I think that helped me. You know, it's like. Cause when a coach get on you, if you go to, if you go to talking back, he really, he'll stay on your ass. Yeah, but if you don't say nothing, you, you act like he talking to a stop sign or something. Cause that's how I used to do. I act like I hear you, but I don't really acknowledge you. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the only time Joe Huh? But see, like I said, I don't do. I didn't do that cursing because, look, my granny didn't curse me. She ain't call me no sobs and no mofos and all that stuff. Okay, okay, now play who I get screwed. I'm not you. I'm not the one. I like your ass up. I mean, when I got to league my position coach, I. Hey, he started. I was like, you know, I get that like. And turn the head just slightly like. You know how a dog usually talking to a dog? He turned his head slightly.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like you talking to me.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, Joe. And, you know, I was a complete opposite. You know, the way. The way we was coached down there in the city, you know, based on where I'm from, coaching is a part of the way they coach. It was in general. You know, it's always cursing. That's why I have such a hard time being able to hold conversations and talk without cursing, because it just.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

You know, the clip I. I showed y', all, man, the year, the bullshit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

So it's like that high school level, you know, when you. When you're little peewee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Four, five years old, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the way to talk to you.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Get your ass over there and do it again. I mean, it's just so. It was normal for me, and on your end, it's completely different. But you ain't. You ain't dealing with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, I. I look, when I growing up, oh, they. Man, they cuss you, pick you up, kick in your butt, hit you upside your damn head. You go, that'll hit you upside your head. You. I. I tolerate it. But as I got older, Ocho and I became a better player. I just felt you could just. If he'd have told me, say, well, I don't want you to speed cut it. Or if I was speed cutting, he says, I want you to plant and break it down. If he'd have just told me what I was doing wrong. Cause I'm. I'm a visual learner.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, like, when they. When they draw stuff for the position. Well, Shannon, we want you to do it right this year. And I just tell my position coach, I said, I need you to write it down. I need you to put. Draw. Draw it so I can see it. Yeah, that's how. I mean, don't tell me I need to see it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I had done ran the route so many times. Now you got to realize as a true sophomore, I'm a black college all American. I'm conference player of the year, I'm offensive player of the year, and I'm first team all conference. Let that see. As a true sophomore, I'm conference player of the year as a wide receiver. Ocho. Not offensive player. Not. I'm conference player of the year.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he comes in, I got double digit touchdown. No wide receiver had ever called for a thousand yards in Savannah State history. I was the first. And I get it. I get. Now looking back on it, I know what he's trying to do. If I get him, I'll have the rest of the team, right? Yeah. But you gotta let me in on that. You need to tell me what you try to do. I'm not the one.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, hey.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

It's so funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Uncle Joe. And I mean, I can, I can tell it now is I was so used to a certain coaching style similar to what your coach, you know, who you, who you got upset at. I was used to such a coaching style, Uncle Joe. Once I got to college, I had Eric Yarber.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Now the receiver coach with the Los Angeles Rams and Yarbs. He was hard. He was all, yeah, First I say, man, listen, it's okay. I can take that now. If you want to use me as an example to be able to coach me hard, I'm all for it because I'm used to it. Because that's all I knew right when I got to the Bengals. Hugh Jackson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hugh Jackson.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, you. Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You curse every other word. You mouth a curse word.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Man, listen, Cussing me out. And then we had some other receiver coaches. We had Alex Wood, we had Mike Shepard, and they were a little more soft spoken. And I like, nah, nah. If I mess up, man, you need to get on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

So I would have to ask them, man. It's okay. Yeah, I prefer that. I prefer that style. Even if it's not you. It's okay to do it because I respond better than that. As opposed to being soft spoken.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've had. I've had coaches like Coach Turner. Coach Turner was old, old school. Coach Turner slapped five from you. Coach Turner. No, no, no, Coach. I've seen Coach Turner slap, slap guys. I was like, ooh, damn. I said, man, let me just make sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to see. That's why, like, I really have to learn what I'm trying to. Like, I really need to, like, know everything. I need to know what x Gotta do Y. Gotta do Z Got to do. I need to know everybody's position because I know what it's like to have to go on the field and not really knowing what I got to do. And being in a situation in Camp Joe, I asked the guy what I had to do. He told me the wrong route on purpose. I didn't think anything about it. We competing for the job. One of us gonna make it.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eliminate the competition.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you got this. Man, I read that thing sharp. What the hell are you doing? Take a running route. It's the wrong route. I say you. I'm saying to myself, you dirty mofo. I said, if I'm ever in that position, I'd never do that to anybody.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't. You, you got to try to tell me the wrong. And that's my fault, because I should have knew what the hell I had to do. Yeah, right. I shouldn't have had to ask him what the hell I got.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's on me. And my grandma used to say, boy, never no more hello. Never again.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But guess what? They got him up out of there.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got him up out of there.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, boy. It's cut throw business out there, man.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me, I would, I, I, I, I wouldn't do that. That's not. But you know what? I told you. My, My therapist told me one time. She said, shannon, your biggest mistake is to think everybody thinks like you.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This person was telling me. I talked, told this person, I think it was like probably about a year or two ago. She said her therapist told her that just because you wouldn't do something, you're not like that, that don't mean there aren't people that out there are. And that doesn't mean that you won't come across them.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny how basically they're saying the same thing. Just because you won't do something, that don't mean somebody won't do that to you.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hello. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It took me a while to understand that Joe and Ocho, because I'm like, hey, bro.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you need?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boom.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man. Cause guys coming to the hall, I know you ain't expecting to play. Somebody goes down, you are, man. What I got. Hey, sexualize this. They come this you. Hey, you hot also now. Be careful. They bring two off your side. You gotta look hot. Give John the throw. Okay, okay, okay. Hey, if it's covered too, you gotta clear. Get that safety out there. Because I'm screaming down, I'm Getting down the middle.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling what he got because what good. How does that help us if he don't know what he got? Yeah, the offense.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the. See, that's the way I look at it. I look at the whole big picture. I ain't just looking at you because you a cog in the system.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In order for the system to smoke, to flow smoothly, you need to know what the f to do. Yeah, but people don't think like that, though, Joe. They don't think like that.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, Ma,

[Shannon Sharpe]

but, man, I just think. I was just thinking back because I did. I did a piece. I went back when I was in Denver and I had TD Rod Easy Ed Romo burned Mobley and Atwater. And we're talking about the back to back and what it took and all the things that. It's going to be very interesting to hear. You hear him talk and they have like, bro, y' all be talking too much. Y', all, y', all. Y' all tell us the stuff that ain't supposed to get out.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

But Yanis the Boston Rumors Ocho Joe, they're heating back up. Kevin o' Connor reignited the Giannis trade discourse with an eye opening updates on the Celtics interest in the Milwaukee buck superstar. O' Connor said the C's are willing to part ways with all but one of their players. I've heard Boston is shopping people around a lot now that Boston is making calls. Boston is open to trading anybody besides Jason Tatum, and that doesn't necessarily mean they'll land Giannis at the end of the day. But I do believe based on everything and all the conversations I had is that the Celtics are in on Giannis and that they are making a push on him. This feels very, very real to me, Joe. Many have thought about this. Many says. Look, let's just say for the sake of argument, it's right here. Jt. Jb.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All things being equal, I've always felt they would trade JB before they ever got rid of jt.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've always felt that. Let me know what your thoughts are and what your thoughts are on this potential trade.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Well, yeah, I think it has to be some truth to this rumor, Uncle Ocho, because it's been circling and, man, if Boston can get Giannis, obviously you gotta trade jb. I don't know, man. I mean, that's, you know, that's. That's a hell of a pickup. I'm not gonna lie to you. I know him, and I think him and Jalen Brown are two totally different players. It's just hard to break up JB and JT because I think they both 1A. And if both complete, if both guys are healthy, you know they're gonna be right there in the conference finals or in the finals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Every. Every year. No, if hands or busts about it. I think the question is because the injuries have been kind of mounting up on Giannis the past few years. You know, he's been hurt a lot. And jb, he. He. He plays, bro. He ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

He's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If he's nothing but do. He's doable, if nothing else, but he's turned himself into an all NBA player. We know he won the Finals mvp. We know he won a Larry Bird Eastern Conference mvp. But he showed last year that he can carry a team.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. And I think. I think that's what took his trade value up, too. If y' all want me to be honest. I think that's great value. I've been hearing reports that, you know, it may be like a three team trade. I've been hearing Atlanta's trying to get him down here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been hearing JB or Giannis, jb. Okay.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, but I. I've been hearing a bunch of rumors, man, but for sure, Milwaukee is going to trade Giannis and he gonna. He gonna shake up the Eastern Conference for sure.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Because here's the thing. You hear all these trades, you've never heard Jason Tatum name mentioned in any trade, have you?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Nope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's always who jb.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

And I wonder, hey, I wonder, is it. I wonder since he's been streaming lately, you know? JB been streaming?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Does that does that play, does that play a role into them wanting to trade them too?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, they want, they wanted to move that, man. They've always, they've always felt that Jason Tatum was the better of the two players.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen, but without J.B. uncle Ocho, you don't, you don't, you don't beat the Mavericks and that, you don't beat the Mavericks in the

[Shannon Sharpe]

fight in the finals because JB did a number on you, Luca.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. You ain't gonna, you're not gonna get that. As great as Giannis is, you're not gonna get that full court press like that, you know, man to man in your face and can come down and get a bucket. A two way. Yeah, he a two way guy. He gonna give you some block shots. Hell, they gonna give you about 15, 16 damn rebounds a night. Yeah, playing, playing with the Celtics, I'm gonna say anywhere from 25 plus points, he. He's gonna be terrific. You just gotta hope you can keep him healthy, he can stay on the dance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my, that's my concern, Joe. Yeah, the last couple of years, the injuries are starting to come with greater regularity and they're starting to keep him out for longer periods of time.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Absolutely, absolutely. That worries me too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And normally old people don't get healthier as they age. I'm just. Look, I understand the Boston's gonna like, look. And plus the thing is, is that Yanis is going to want a new deal and the deal is going to have to be done before. Before you, before you trade for him. Because you'd be a damn fool to trade for Giannis with one year left on that contract and not got a long term deal. You'll be a damn fool.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that deal, A deal is going to have to already be in place or the parameters of a deal going to have to already be. But I wouldn't take that because you remember Boozer, he pulled a fast one over. He pulled a fast one on Cleveland.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Cleveland, yeah. And signed with Utah. Yeah, they let him out. Or, or did he. He took, he took a fast one on Utah and signed with Cleveland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he signed, put a fast one on Cleveland and you. Hey. And you know who, you know who his agent was?

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Who,

[Shannon Sharpe]

who is his agent? Ash? I give you one guess. He might be working for the Lakers R. PE. Because they, because they understood his value. They say, you know what we want to get. They say if you let us, if you let us opt out.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll Sign back with.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah, they let him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They rel. Let him get out. And guess what he did right to Utah.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, they had a deal in place already.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Hey, went to go get that bag, man.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, man, I. I mean, I like. I mean, I. I to. To see the way JB has grown over the last year, the way he's improved his game. He was always super athletic, Joe.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But now he's got the three ball. He. He could always finish.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tremendous bounce.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah. Can go. Hey, hey, can score on anybody. He can do a little bit of everything, bro. A hell of. Just a hell of a player. For real. Damn. I can't believe Boston gonna let him get up out of that old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I guess y' all didn't know. Y' all didn't know that, huh? Y' all didn't know that about. I shouldn't even brought it up. I only know why I brought that up. Joe Ocho ain't none of my business. I follow Lee real closely, Joe. I've been following Lee for a while.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

I see. I see. Ocho say you've been watching basketball since 1912.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do remember. I do remember. The first thing I could kind of remember is like the Portland beating the 76ers in the NBA Finals.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even though it was. It was tape delayed. Yeah. And the Sixers had to leave. Had a 20 lead and then. And then Portland come back and win four straight.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Let's go, Spurs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it was. I think the Supersonic. Nah, the bullets won in 78, and then the Supersonics, I think, went in 79.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, them. Damn. New York has been partying since game two. Hell, they hell, they hell.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

Wait till you see the party tomorrow.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, ain't gonna be one tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, here it is. Here's a three. The three team reported trade Joe since Giannis to Boston, Jalen Brown to Atlanta. Boston. Boston gets Giannis and the Hawks 2029 first round pick. And the Hawks get a 2027 second round pick. Milwaukee gets white, Kaminga two hogs the 2026 first two future Celtics first. Atlanta gets Brown and Dang. I guess. I guess Richard, as they say his name. Richard. Richard.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to. You saying Atlanta giving him up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. To Milwaukee with. With White. With Derrick White, Richter, Kaminga two Hawks 2026 first. 2026 first. And two future Celtics first.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, them folks don't want to see JB and JJ together down here. We're gonna act a fool they gonna act. Hey, we're gonna act a fool, boy. The house gonna be back for real while y' all playing. Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe. Ocho, the Internet has a lot of thoughts about LeBron. Rocking the gray beard. He got that. He got that. He got that skunk going like his own, you see? Yeah, that.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah, he. He had time to put that just for men in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he got. Hey, he got that basic. That 57 oriole.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

57 what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That 57 oriental, that magnet.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, bro, keep rocking that salt and pepper, my boy. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, bro. Damn. Gray at me.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah. Damn. That he. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all wasn't. What. Hey. Cause I. Hey. And I'm old enough to be LeBron. I think me and Glow the same age. I'm literally. Literally old enough to be his dad. And he. He got me.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Hey, hey, bro, I've been locked in on that golf, ain't it, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Hey, he said, I'm gonna have some time to play.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what you got to do in order to get good at. You got to play. A lot of that is Joe boy.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

I'm talking about a lot all the time. Yeah. I'm talking about. Ain't nothing for. Look, ain't nothing for the homies to go to the golf course. They out there eight hours. Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. That's what my brother is a tournament that he will. Hey, man, where you at? I'm going to such and such tournament. I'm going to this tournament. He driving, man. That joker driver, he stay up at. What's that up on 85? Chateau Elan.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. That joke will stay up there.

[Ocho (Basketball Player or Analyst)]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's that, a golf course up there? Brazil.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, your brother live out here? Your brother live in Georgia?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You live in South Carolina, man.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Oh, oh, okay. South kakalakan. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LeBron said, I'm trying to get that thing and I'm trying to lock in.

[Joe (Basketball Analyst or Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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