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Joe
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I turned off news altogether.
Joe
I hate to say it, but I
Ocho
don't trust much of anything.
Joe
It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Uncle Joe
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Joe
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Joe
spoke on the Browns fan base potentially not supporting him over Shador Sanders. At the end of the day, I can't control who some people support. Those are their own opinions. And all I can do is be the best person I can be and showcase who I am as a person, player and a teammate and what I represent as an individual. Outside of that, I can't focus on outside saying anything. Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
What are you thinking? Hey, you agree or damn desean had to say?
Uncle Joe
Excuse my language. Hey, Uncle Joe. Damn that support. Damn that support right now. We brought you here for a reason. You know the reasons we did bring you here. You haven't lived up to those expectations. But the money you've got that has been guaranteed, things that you do off the field, that upset upsets some fans. And obviously you understand what Shador bring to the table. But looking at what he does off the field and the energy he gives that team. But DeShawn, you're being paid a hefty ransom. You haven't given the Browns fans anything or the organization to cheer about due to injuries. Rightfully so, due to injuries. But this year, it should make it a breaker year. You're going to be the starting quarterback. It's not going to be a quarterback competition. I don't care about, you know, what the fans say, what the coaches say, who always want to be politically correct when they. When they ask questions about who your starter is going to be. Deshaun Watson is going to be your starter, and it's going to be his job to lose. If he's not playing well by the time you get to Game 6, they're going to make that switch to Shador. And when that switch happens, it's not going back. Yeah, it's not going.
Ocho
Listen, he can't do nothing about what. What. What the fans say or think about him and Shador, but all he has to do, man, is come out and play great football. At the end of the day, you ain't got to worry about all that other stuff, bro. You just got to come out and handle business. Now, I don't know if it's going to result in the wins, but. But you gotta give him some hope here.
Joe
If he plays, I guarantee you they winning game, he throwing touchdowns.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, they're gonna support him. Absolutely.
Ocho
Hey, but we've been bad.
Joe
They've been bad for 30 years. And they supported other quarterbacks. So if they win games, they're gonna support it. Not everybody not everybody. And that's okay. Your job ain't there to be like. Your job is to win games. They like you in the process of you winning game. Oh, well and good. But if they don't. Oh, well and good, too.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, if. If what you're doing on the field as a quarterback is resulting in wins, they're not gonna like you. They're gonna love you.
Joe
Right.
Uncle Joe
Because they've been starving for that. They've been starving for that consistency in the win column.
Joe
Don't know how good he can be with what he got to work with.
Uncle Joe
Hey, they didn't. Boss over there. You got. Yeah. You know. Hey, what's the type? I love that goddamn Titan the right way.
Joe
Fanny. Fanny Fanning.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, man. Well, I like him.
Ocho
He tough. Ain't no joke.
Uncle Joe
Another year or two, he gonna be in that conversation with one of the better tight ends, maybe top five. With the way he's playing, if he. If he continues to play the way he played last year, he. Jerry, Judy, you got coming. Hey, Jerry, this year you got. You got.
Ocho
Hey, hey, we. We talking about best case scenario for Deshaun Watson. But y'. All. Y' all know damn well if them. If them wins ain't adding up. Shadura's love.
Joe
He's beloved, bro.
Ocho
Them folk want to see Shadur now. Hey, they want to see number two. He didn't change his number to two.
Joe
The deuce is loose.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Wait, you see what he made on
Joe
Jersey that day alone?
Ocho
Let you know they want to see that boy out there. Yeah. Got 17 M's off of Jersey sales.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
17.7. Boy off Jersey, mind you, off a team that really, really wasn't with just based on last name alone. So imagine if he get in there and change.
Joe
Man, check this one out, y'.
Uncle Joe
All.
Joe
When you think about this, according to Mike Groffalo, NFL Network, when A.J. brown went to pick up his things at the Eagle facility, he signed a picture up of him in the building with the message, the best to ever play here. Always open. The Browns are the only eighth among all type Eagles and receiving yards, sitting behind Harold Carmichael. Fellow past catchers Zach Erics, Pete Retzlov, Tommy McDonald, Bobby Walson, Ocho. Yeah, that was really a really, really weird interview last week where he says, you know, hey, I did what I did. Okay, but then, you know about leaking stories and trying to get his team motivated, but. Right, AJ before even old Joe. Go, bro. I think you're phenomenal. You're not the best receiver to play there. You Ain't you ain't seeing to ever. I mean, ever.
Uncle Joe
I mean, shoot. Hey, ain't nobody seeing conversations.
Joe
I think you're phenomenal. T.O. is one of the three best receivers in T.O. ever play in the NFL. What are the three best? I ain't got him one. I ain't got him three either. I believe it at that. I think you're phenomenal and you did an outstanding job in your tenure there. Y' all went to two Super Bowls. You won one, you were thousand yard receiver, you went to the Pro Bowl. But T.O. was a different animal.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I mean, listen, A.J. brown is good for the times that we're in when it comes to playing the position of receiver at one. At one point, when the conversation of the best receivers in the NFL came up, uncle and Joe, you know, A.J. brown was top five at one. We, we. Let's. Let's not forget that him not being coverable. He is right. There's really nothing you could do with him. You play off, he gonna dice you up. You can play. You can play in his face. He too strong. He running right through you playing.
Joe
You talking about T? You talking about A.J. okay, okay, okay.
Uncle Joe
What he's been able to do, you know, when he's been in the conversations, when things were going well in. In. In Philly, he was, he was, you know, talked about being revered as one of the top five players in the game, things kind of fell off a little bit. But he's still extremely good. And I love the fact that he still has his confidence to even say what he said. And he's supposed to believe that he's supposed to be. He believe he's the best that's played there. Now when. When you talk about facts and some of the. Some of the players that's played before him that's been there, obviously to rain range.
Joe
So what we gonna do with D.J. are we just gonna kick D.J. out the.
Uncle Joe
I was just getting ready to say Deshaun Jackson when he was there. Desean Jackson, one of the best, you
Joe
know, one of the two or three greatest deep threat receivers to ever play. I mean, you can look at him, Bullet, Bob Hayes, you look at Randy Moss, you look at Reek, there ain't there hadn't been five better receivers at the deep ball better than D.J.
Ocho
right? Right.
Uncle Joe
No, no, not at all. But in its totality, playing the position of receiver, I understand what he means. But then when, when we break it down, you know, in its totality, when it comes to receivers that are played for the Philadelphia Eagles A conversation needs to be had. But that doesn't take away how great he is when he was there.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And how great he has to feel to be able to do what he's done.
Joe
I just don't know. I only know we have a conversation about number one because for me, I don't know if he d. I mean to and dj.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
I mean, I think, I think the thing is, is that people allowed some of Tio's antics on the sideline and stuff. You know, Joe. And oh, I think that, oh. That they allowed that to overshadow. They don't. I don't think people realize just how good Tio was.
Ocho
I do.
Uncle Joe
They don't. Well, you gota, you gota, you gotta know football. You gotta, you gotta know ball. You gota, you gotta understand and be able to, to separate the antics and you not liking him personally. This is the funny thing about it, Uncle Joe, hold on. How great he was on the back end when he came. Brady was in Buffalo in his shorts in there. What he did in Dallas.
Joe
What he did in Philly.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
What he did.
Ocho
Hey, hey, hey. He broke his leg in Philly and came back and played in the.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
Joe. In seven weeks he had 1 42,
Joe
22, nine for 1 22. But the mere fact that he had 100 yards of a broken leg in less than three months.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Like I said, I think sometimes we allow a person antics because even though, even though I, I, I'm. I'm. Look ab's antics drove me crazy. But that don't take away what type of player that he was.
Ocho
Right.
Joe
Hey, two things can be true. Somebody could be a jerk off the field and have Boris behavior on it. But his talent is undeniable.
Ocho
Yes sir.
Joe
No matter what you think of to his talent is undeniable. Every go look at every way he went. There's only been three guys that's ever been a first team all pro on three different teams. Deion Sanders, Ted Hendricks and Terrell Owens. There have been. Think about it. How many guys have played in the NFL? How many guys that have played on multiple, multiple teams. Only three.
Uncle Joe
Yes.
Joe
Have been first team all pro on three different teams. Hey, go back and look. Even when Jerry, Jerry was still in his prime. Go back and look at to numbers back in 97, back in 98. Go look at his numbers. When Jerry was still putting up his numbers to had 14 touchdowns a year. Jerry was still putting up big time numbers. Yeah. Y' all better stop playing with that man. You might not like some of his antics, you might not like some of the things that he said, but you cannot deny his talent. You cannot. The one thing I've met and the why I the the reason why I respected him so much. I always know he gonna give me everything he got. He what? He might get mad because he didn't get no. And I know as a defensive coordinator I'm gonna double him early because I want to take him out of the game.
Ocho
So.
Joe
Because if he doesn't get the ball early, I already know how it's going to go, and that's my job.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
I wanted to go sideways. I'm doing everything I possibly can. Don't try to make it go sideways.
Uncle Joe
Hey, but, but, but honestly, Uncle Joe, to get back on context and what we what we were talking about and to give people that in the chat, to give you perspective on the mindset of AJ Brown, saying what he said is one of the reasons why he is who he is is one of the reasons why he's still one of the better receivers in the league. There's a reason why he was in the conversation for being top five before things soured over in Philly. The mindset alone and actually believing I am the best. Even if we have a conversation and people in the chat have a conversation say, well, actually, no, you're not. It's the mindset and believing that I am in general first of how we feel about it. This is why he is as good as he is. This is why he was able to get the Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl.
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I turned off news altogether.
Joe
I hate to say it, but I
Ocho
don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Uncle Joe
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Uncle Joe
Oh yeah, two Super Bowls. I'm sorry, my bad.
Joe
According to Adam Schefter, the chief pulled a power move, added two more years to Patrick Mahomes contract, tied him to Kansas city through the 2033 season at a value at $504 million $75. $504 million $75. This will make Patrick Mahomes the first NFL player to have a deal worth Over a half a billion dollars. When the new money kicks in, starting in 2027, Patrick Mahomes will earn an average of $64 million a year. And if I'm not mistaken, the first four years of that contract is guaranteed. Oh, Joe, are you surprised the Chiefs gave Mahomes this type of money coming off the serious injury that he suffered just last season?
Uncle Joe
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You understand the importance and the value of Patrick Mahomes, and you're not paying him for what he's done, what he's already done. You're paying him what he's going to do moving forward. Patrick Mahomes right now, arguably still while active, probably his top five, top three, depending on who you ask quarterbacks to ever play this game. And you know, as long as he's healthy, as long as he's there, he always gives you a chance to win. Kansas City Chiefs are going to always be in contention. You understand how important your quarterback is, especially that position. If you look at some of the other teams, look at the landscape, some of the other teams that are continuing to struggle, you're in and you're out. It's because they don't have any, any consistent play at that position, to play at that position. Once you get your quarterback, Joe, especially when you get one this good, you're able to build around them and put pieces around him and allow things to flow through him. It makes everything else easy. And a quarterback like Mahomes is one. You don't have a problem having to make 64 million a year because you know what he gives you in the season and in the postseason.
Ocho
Hey, I agree.
Joe
Go ahead, Joe.
Ocho
I agree. I think Mahomes, he will continue to be one of the top quarterbacks in NFL and for Kansas City, there's no way in hell, you know, you, you, you let him get out of there. So you take care of him, bro. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, with him at the helm, hell, you always gonna have a great chance.
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Ocho
It don't surprise me.
Joe
Always. And guess what? And the funny thing, Remember, they moved, Joe. They moving. They go into this new arena. How did that happen?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
15, 1 5.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You was in five of the last seven. The five of the last seven Super Bowls. How did that happen? You do realize they didn't want. I mean, who did they beat? The Vikings? I think they beat the Vikings in 70 and then it was 50 plus years before they even got back to another one.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And why was that?
Uncle Joe
Right?
Ocho
1 5.
Joe
Yeah, he good. He's. He's as good as advertising. I didn't think he was gonna do this. I mean, I watched him. I only. I saw two games. I saw him that night. Him and Baker Mayfield lit this guy up and he threw for damn near 800 yards.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And.
Joe
And I saw him in another game, but I remember watching him. I watched him one time he played the Broncos the last game of the season. They rested their starters and he lit the Broncos up.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
I said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex Smith, you gone? I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gone. Yeah, yeah, you're not going to be there next year. And he's been. They saw something that they like. Andy and Brett say, look, because think about it, and it says we're really good. I mean, we're running 10, 11, 12 games a year with Alex Smith. But just imagine if we had a guy that would really push the ball down the field.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Because Alex Smith didn't really want to push the ball down the field. We called him. Well, I gave the name Check Down Alex because he was looking to check the ball down. He wanted high completion percentage. Yeah, he ain't throwing. Hey, at the end of the half, Joe, he ain't throwing that ball. He's shaking that ball down. He ain't gonna. Hey, cut the incompletion. Gonna go against my completion percentage. We'll go against my quarterback rating Mahomes firing it. Look at the offense. You don't care when you got that guy that can push it down the field and can make those throws like my homeboy can.
Uncle Joe
Joe Homes give you hell, man, because you, you look at a quarterback and what he's able to do. You look at his strengths and weaknesses, but you always want to play your strengths. Mahomes don't really have a weakness. He can be on the center, he can. He can play in the gun. You can roll him left, he can roll him right, he can. He got a mo. He can throw in multiple, multiple slots when it comes to angles and being able to release the ball, anything. And the fact that, okay, he's coming off a torn acl, well, hell, he can still do everything else from the pocket. It's not like he was Michael Vick, not like he was Lamar Jackson. He can run and still be a dual threat quarterback, but he can do everything else extremely well as well.
Ocho
Yeah, I'm excited for him, bro. You know, hey, hey, anytime they get these guys, they money, man. They deserve it. Hey, man, kudos to you, brother.
Joe
Most of the time, quarterbacks are the Only position they don't have to fight for it. More times than not, they're going to take care of the quarterbacks.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Well, except for number eight. Matter of fact, he's still. I'm just saying he fighting for it right now behind.
Ocho
Yeah, I know what it's about. Y' all know it's about what you mean.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, you're right.
Joe
I mean, I, I don't. I don't know why. I don't know what else he can do. I mean, he hasn't done any less than some of these other quarterbacks and they ain't got no problem getting any money. He said, I know. If y' all want to compare me to them. Okay, I get that and I get it. Oh, Joe to agree. I understand. Because what you and I have talked about Joe, before we join. I said tell Ocho. I said you Joe. Oo they hold Lamar to a different standard because he has two MVPs.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
All the other quarterbacks that have at least two MVPs have gotten to a Super Bowl.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Whether they won or not is something entirely. We can discuss that a later D time. You talk about Peyton Manning, talk about Tom Brady, talk about Brett Farbs, talk about Aaron Rodgers, talk about Joe Montana. You talk about what's the guy Kurt Warner, Steve Young. Those are the guys that have multiple MVPs. Think about the guys that I named. Y' all heard the list.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
That's why they Jehole Lamar different than Josh Allen different than what they hold Joe Burrow Jeopardy. What they hold Justin Herbert because they don't have. He gets compared to those other guys. That's why they don't compare Josh Allen to. To Steve Young and Joe Montana and Jo and Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. Because he doesn't have two MVPs.
Ocho
Right.
Joe
That's why.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. You know what too? And Joe, you know, can you think about it now that now you're lumping Josh Allen in that conversation. He might not have two, but he does have one. So now his expectations are held to a different.
Joe
He gets held to a different standard than Trevor Lawrence. He gets held to a different story standard. But think about it. Oo only by sick. I mean, who else Johnny Unit. You talk about eight guys. You talk about pantheon guys that have multiple MVPs. Lamar Jackson has that and all of those guys have been to a Super Bowl. So that's why people are so critical harsh on Lamar because they see bro they like bro. You realize of in a hundred plus years they're probably not but 10 quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs and you're the only one that haven't went to the Super Bowl. He gets to a Super bowl even if he doesn't win. But if he wins it, oh, it's a raps.
Uncle Joe
He can play freely. I call it playing. Yes, you get that monkey back, you ain't got nothing to worry about because I've already what everybody is criticizing.
Joe
I don't know if you guys remember, but when Steve Young won the super bowl, when they beat the Chargers, he came to the sideline and what did he say? Get that monkey off my back. Yeah, yeah, because he had two MVP
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I turned off news altogether.
Joe
I hate to say it, but I
Ocho
don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Uncle Joe
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Joe
Yeah, he had couldn't get over. He couldn't get past the Cowboys.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Un oo and still King ISO.
Ocho
Hello.
Uncle Joe
How y' all doing on this Sunday? I got a question for y'. All. Y' all see I'm repping Packers early before the season even starts. Un ojo. What do y' all rank the quarterbacks of the NFC North? My opinion, I'mma go Jerry, Goff, Jordan, love, Caleb, then Kyler and ISO. My question for you, if you were to play in the NFL, what position would you play? Outside of tight end or wide receiver? Because of your height, what position would you play? But y' all boys have a good night. I love the show. Y' all get me through my work day. Love.
Ocho
Oh, boy. I'd be a hell of a tight end. I got something.
Joe
Nah, Joe, I think you'll be a defensive. Yeah, Joe who?
Ocho
Too tall you'll be dear. But my hands and my hands and my feet. Hey.
Uncle Joe
Oh, you got. You got two. It's too much target for you, Joe. They gonna kill you out there at tight end. Man.
Ocho
Get me in the red zone. Who gonna stop me?
Joe
Who gonna check me? Well, you know you got to get to the red zone. So you don't want no passing. Jojo, he don't want no passes. He want to jump and catch a touchdown and run up the field.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have been the end zone dancing here.
Joe
Nah, Joe, you'll be a great defensive end. Six foot seven. That wingspan lockout rip.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, Joe, you'll kill him on defense.
Joe
You. Hey, Ed. 2. Charles Jones was 6 foot 9.
Ocho
What type of money them edge is making?
Joe
You see,
Ocho
I mean, you know, I. I ain't saying I wouldn't be a bad boy, but damn.
Joe
Well, I mean, hey, you gonna make it at 25? Probably 25.
Uncle Joe
30.
Ocho
All right, all right, all right, all right.
Joe
Titans don't make that much. They make good, but they don't make that. They don't make that. I. I can see that. I don't know how much longer Jared Goff is going to be in the number one slot. I mean, after this year, hell, he might be down to three. Caleb Williams coming.
Uncle Joe
I mean, but. But as it is right now, when you talk about the nfc, NFC north quarterbacks, obviously Jared Goff is number one. I would have Jordan Love third. I mean, Jordan Love second. Caleb Williams and then Kyler Murray.
Joe
Yeah, I agree with that list.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
But I'm not so sure after this year is going to be now.
Uncle Joe
Probably not. And you know, honestly, I think after. Excuse me, after this season, I wouldn't be surprised if Kayla Williams jumped to number one and then Jordan Love is second. I don't see with the supporting cat that. That Jared Goff has, I don't see him slide down that much to where now it's a conversation. And based on preference, based on the quarterback that you do like,
Joe
based on the. The maturation that I've seen from Caleb Williams and his second year in this Ben Johnson system, hey, we might be thinking about him in a whole different damn, the NFC north, he gonna be one of the top two or three quarterbacks in the damn league. There's not a throw that he can't make now. Yeah, he holds onto the ball sometimes, you know, a little bit too long. Ocho. But man, his improvisational skills, his ability to throw the football rolling left or rolling right.
Uncle Joe
He nice.
Joe
Yo, what's up? I don't know if you want to hear this.
Ocho
What you got, man?
Joe
Aaron Donald text reporter Jordan Schultz Tuesday night and said he's considered returning to the Rams. The text read, I'm for sure flirting with the idea. Hell of an opportunity with the super bowl and so far this year, if I can find the fire. It's a possibility. Ocho, if AD Miles Garrett on the same D line with Fisk and with that great rotation they got, what do you think it is? Could this be the greatest defense ever?
Uncle Joe
I mean, I don't. I don't know about the greatest defense ever, but it'd be two of the greatest players ever. Ever lace him up on defense. I don't know about the greatest defense, but what did I say? When. When? When Miles Garrett. When we talked about this night before last, I said, there's a good chance because Miles Garrett is going there. Even though Aaron Donald has not played a down in two years, but he's consistently stayed in shape, he consistently worked out and. But there's nothing like actually playing football. There's nothing like actually playing football. But knowing Aaron Donald and what he's already accomplished, if there's one reason to have to come back that makes it easy and want to get another super bowl champion championship is right now. Hey, it's right now in that window for the. That window for the Rams. This is the time to do it.
Ocho
If he's going, hey, listen, I understand it's very intriguing for him to come back, but did you hear the key word? He has to find the fire. Hey, hey. That ain't easy, fellas. He been sitting down chilling. Yeah, he been working out. He in great shape. Do I think he could come back
Joe
and still be effective?
Ocho
Hell, yeah. But you have to want to put your body through that rigorous NFL season. And he knows what it's like, bro. He knows what it's going to be like in week eight. You know what I mean? When you banged up in sores. I don't know what. Yeah, he know what that's like, bro.
Joe
It's just hard when you step away from the game like that. Joe Ocho and you, Ocho, we know how it is when we just gone. When we just miss. When you put them pads on, take them off once the season's over and you don't really put the full pads back onto your training camp, it takes you a while.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
To get everything get readjusted. The way that thing feel and get your body used to carrying those pads again, you get your spidey senses tingling. He's been away for two years. He used to automatically know. Oh, man, this guard sitting like somebody hit him somewhere. He knows this is. The trap's coming. He's gonna have to relearn all that. His spidey senses will have to start tingling again.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Could he do it? Yes. But like you said, Joe, to find that fireman, he walked away and said, man, I just didn't have the desire.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And it wasn't like they were a bad team. No, no, no, hold on.
Uncle Joe
He walked away with nothing else.
Ocho
That's what I'm saying.
Joe
What do you want to prove now? Let me ask you a question. If he comes out of retirement and he plays well, will you think any differently? Aaron Donald? Absolutely not. Eight times First Team All Pro. 3. Defensive Player of the year, Defensive rookie of the year. I ain't got nothing. I'm gonna make a case if he never comes back. If he comes back, he's a top five defensive player all time based on his body of work and the level of play. Even if you just take the awards away, which you can cut the tape on, right? Yeah, just cut the tape off.
Uncle Joe
That's all you need to see.
Ocho
And a guy like Aaron Donald, y' all know he want to come back and dominate. He ain't trying to come back.
Joe
Yes, yes. He can't be average.
Ocho
No, sir. He don't know what that's like. He ain't nowhere in hell.
Uncle Joe
And the funny thing about it, too. Think about them having a double team mouth. Think about them having a double team mouth and try to double him. That. That opens up everything defensively. They can do that much more because of those two on that line.
Ocho
Oh, hey, he'll make that defensive line. Hell, no. He come back.
Joe
Oh, yeah. Oh, we.
Ocho
Man, I don't want him to, though. Stay your ass at home.
Joe
It's time for our final save the evening. It's time for Q.
Uncle Joe
Hey, are we leaving already? Hey, anybody in the chat in Chicago got a nice soul food spot.
Ocho
Man, you better get you some good pizza in Chicago.
Joe
Yeah, they know for pizza.
Uncle Joe
I thought New York was known for pizza.
Joe
Chicago and New York, both of them are known for pizza. Chicago, known for the deepest.
Ocho
Yeah, okay. Where I go, you go.
Joe
I don't live in Chicago.
Uncle Joe
But you just said it over pizza, so I'm thinking you probably know what chat.
Ocho
I would say Giordano's. But I know it's been around for quite some time. Ask Chad. I'm sure they'll give you.
Joe
Man, I left Chicago in 1970. He's Georgia. I'm a Georgia.
Uncle Joe
Oh, you from Chicago? Are you from Chicago?
Joe
I was born in Chicago.
Uncle Joe
Hey, it's so funny. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. You weren't on here, though, right? Some of you didn't know. You know, when I. I used to be in Chicago. I used to be in Chicago with Obama.
Ocho
Doing what?
Uncle Joe
You know, me and Obama, we gd. God, dog, you ain't know that.
Ocho
Nah, I know that. Ojo.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this throwback to this back.
Ocho
What's the GD sign? How you throw gd?
Uncle Joe
I ain't gonna do that on here.
Joe
Hey, Joe, now, if you wanna. If you wanna look at this right here. Yeah. Eddie autographed them. Now, if you really want to put something up to try to get these.
Ocho
Oh, oh, oh, listen.
Uncle Joe
Hey, look at this. Hey, Joe, he on your head.
Joe
Joe, can you see that signature?
Ocho
Yeah, I see that signature, man. Hey.
Joe
Took it right off his feet. Go look at the game that he played that he played the Nuggets. He played in them. I went right back there to locker room and got him. He found it.
Ocho
Hey, boy. Hey, hey. I got some stuff over there on the.
Joe
Man.
Uncle Joe
He got signed. Curry signed, LeBron sign. You got anything signed for LeBron?
Joe
I do.
Uncle Joe
And you got.
Joe
Yeah, I got a lot of stuff. Slide. Hey, I just let people. I just let people talk. You know, somebody was on the COVID he would cry. LeBron won't come on. If you only knew some of the things that I. I ain't gonna say nothing.
Ocho
Right, right, right, right.
Joe
You know, they gonna be bad. They'd be bad. They'd be bad. I'm gonna let it go, but don't worry about it. But I got. From Kobe. Got Kobe. I think. You know what? I might put those on when I. I'll shoot you in the three point competition.
Ocho
Don't, don't.
Uncle Joe
And he coming at you.
Ocho
Don't diminish the value on them shoes, okay? Don't, don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Please don't do.
Joe
Oh, you. Oh, you want me to wage them against you? You want to put something up against them?
Ocho
Yeah. Since you in the mood of giving, because that's basically. That's basically what the hell you're gonna be doing. You're gonna be. You're gonna be giving them to me. Hey, hey, hey. I got. I got some stuff over here.
Joe
If we play the Cowboys, Joe, when we play out, I don't know we play y', all, but if we do, that's an ass cutting for y'. All.
Ocho
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
When we play y', all, we bet that you gotta wear a cowboy jersey when you.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Joe
We played the rape. We. Y' all play the Ravens.
Ocho
Yeah, I'm gonna make sure I. I got one with your name. What you. What you need by the xl.
Joe
What you need? Nah, I need More than xl.
Ocho
You need two xl.
Joe
Yep. I got you, Ocho. Just in case you didn't know. What'd that say?
Ocho
And it's Sharp.
Uncle Joe
That's a Shannon Sharp. 80. Was that 84? 2,000.
Joe
Yes. Established in 2000. I played for the Ravens. So. See, when y' all keep talking about. Oh, man, we.
Uncle Joe
Hey, we didn't. We didn't doubt you. You didn't play for the Ravens. The fact that you was only there for two weeks is the part that we keep talking about. No. All right.
Joe
What you want me to do, Chad? I go to a team and I win a Suit Bowl. He want me to. He want me to renounce my rights because I wasn't there for 15 years.
Uncle Joe
I didn't say renounce your rights. You. You're a Denver Bronco, nobody. When we talk about Shannon Sharp, we remember Shannon Sharp as a Denver Bronco. That's it.
Joe
They over there. Yeah, I got. Yeah. Super bowl for Ravens. You know what? See how you. How you do, Ocho. I don't be bothered nobody. I mean, Chad, I was there. I went there. I. I did what I was supposed. Supposed to do as a veteran guy. Come in there, practice hard, show the guys what we. How we gonna do this thing and win a Super Bowl? Damn.
Uncle Joe
Hold on. I. I practice hard, too, but, hell, I didn't have a number one defense in the. Hey, it's all good. It's all good. Listen, I won plenty. I want. I won plenty of rings and championships on Madden.
Ocho
Oh, man, I'm just.
Uncle Joe
I'm just saying, Joe, I had to settle for.
Ocho
Oh, that game. Won. That thing got a little dirt on it.
Joe
Got a little grass things from the Super Bowl.
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Joe
There should be a patch over here, Joe.
Ocho
I see it. Yeah, yeah, I see it.
Joe
I see it because sometimes, Ocho don't think I'm playing for the ring.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, let me. Hey, let me get that.
Joe
No, hold on. Why you want to get this? And you have your own. You don't even wear your own jersey. You don't have your own stuff hanging up?
Uncle Joe
I. I don't know, man. I just. You know, I'm not in the memorabilia.
Joe
Why you want my jersey?
Uncle Joe
I just want. I'm gonna put it, you know, under my nightcap sign.
Joe
No, no, you ain't got no damn nightcap. Your nightcap sign anymore.
Uncle Joe
It's right there.
Ocho
It worked.
Uncle Joe
You see, I got my YouTube Flex.
Joe
Where? Man, that's right there. Man. Somebody put that up with a ruler. Hey, hey, Joe. They use. No, they use no, they ain't use no. No. No levels or nothing.
Ocho
Right. All right.
Joe
They just put that up with eyesight nice, even though. Who told you that?
Uncle Joe
Well, yeah, y' all wait.
Joe
Wait.
Uncle Joe
Wait till I get my room done, y'.
Ocho
All.
Uncle Joe
Hey, y' all gonna be happy. And I. I ain't gonna tell you when it's done. I'm just gonna.
Ocho
Come on.
Uncle Joe
Everything will be lit up all nice.
Ocho
You gonna have that thing where it's. Where it follow you around so we can see different angles and all that.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Cause, you know, I like to get up and demonstrate stuff, so when I get up and demonstrate, my camera gonna follow me.
Joe
Okay.
Uncle Joe
All right.
Joe
Yeah, but I'm saying no. I mean, you ain't even got your own jerseys hanging up.
Uncle Joe
Oh, you know, I don't be into that stuff, man. I don't be into that stuff.
Joe
Yeah, I probably should have had him. I probably should have had to watch the jersey before now.
Uncle Joe
It looked better like that already. It looked better dirty, though, I guess.
Joe
I guess they don't have to authenticate it, because they can. Look at that. So. Yeah, that was actually jersey worn in the game.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, that was game one.
Joe
Yeah, for sure.
Ocho
Yeah, they're probably gonna be. They're gonna be worth a little something now.
Joe
Well, the kids. Look at it. Oh, yo, look at what I got.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Who that? Who?
Ocho
Hey, that.
Uncle Joe
That's. That's Pickens. Who?
Joe
Carl Pickens.
Ocho
Hey, that's probably the nicest hell my job ever had, ojo.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I mean, our helmet's still the same. Same stripe, same everything.
Joe
I got the game ball against y', all, too, O. Joe, what the score was? I don't know, but I have got my 533. 26.
Uncle Joe
Damn, man.
Joe
I mean, I had some good day. I had some good moments against y'.
Uncle Joe
All.
Joe
Oh, and this was at y' all place, too, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, listen, I. I wish I had all my stuff from when I. When I used to douse the Ravens up. Hey, Joe, I used to be getting
Ocho
the boys that gave me that work, man.
Uncle Joe
Getting them boys at work.
Ocho
Boy, I got.
Joe
I got a couple game balls against Cincinnati. You got any game balls against Denver? Yeah. You Jody play against Denver? Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I do. Hey, hey, Chad, tell him. Tell him what I did against Denver Monday night.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that when you pull up there in that dunk, huh?
Uncle Joe
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was the jets, and. And that was the Post. I'm talking about what I did to Denver.
Ocho
What you did to him. Ojo, man.
Uncle Joe
Man, I ain't wanting to brag, but I'm sure the chat. Know what I did Monday night to Denver? You cut rub, man, listen, I. I cut the rug and took it home, Joe. I cut the rug and took it home.
Joe
But, Joe, when you. When you decide what you want to wager to try to get these Kobe's up off me, I mean, I either want. You want the Kobe's or you want the steps.
Ocho
I mean, you showed me them Kobe's. I ain't gonna lie. I kind of want them Kobe's. Now. Them co was in that Louis Vuitton ball. Whatever. We could cornhole it. We could shoot jumpers.
Joe
Oh, you know, you're not winning that, Joe. I want to give you something that you could possibly win, like basketball. You're not gonna. You can't beat me in no cornhole, Joe.
Ocho
Oh.
Joe
Oh.
Ocho
I'm telling you, if.
Joe
Listen, if it was just me and
Ocho
you, it would have been a little different story. I had Ojo in my damn way.
Joe
Yeah, I mean.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, you got. You got bigger fish to fry with me, so you might want to start with Unc first.
Joe
Hey, I keep telling y', all, we go bowling, whatever you want to do. Well, we. Hey, hey, hey.
Ocho
We see how that turned out, so we ain't got to talk about that.
Joe
No, I gotta get. I gotta get this old knee healthy first.
Ocho
Yeah, no, I don't even want to get you back out there. I'm not really. I did a mean demonstration on you.
Joe
Nah, Joe.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
I got my own,
Uncle Joe
but. What's that? What side? That's eight pound ball. That ball looks small.
Joe
Hey, Ocho, you know what I'm saying this.
Ocho
I.
Joe
That's how I normally do it right now. Oh, so you don't thumb. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Show. Hey. So, hey, Joe, that's exactly how.
Ocho
Yeah, Nah, I don't feel you.
Joe
What you mean?
Ocho
No, no, no.
Uncle Joe
All right, don't worry.
Joe
I gotta play for my own. My shoes.
Ocho
I see. I see.
Uncle Joe
Hey, your knees ain't good. You can't.
Joe
I mean, hey, the. The jail shots did be a little good. I might need to get me a couple of motor.
Ocho
Hey, you look like one of them cats when they come to the gym, they got the Jordan sleeve on.
Joe
They got.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, they got the jersey tucked in.
Joe
Man, I used to go to the bowling tournament all the time. You know, you go to a bowling tournament and, you know, hey, you get Your ball, you get a bag. So, like, every time I go, I get a ball, I give me a bag. I don't know how. I don't know what happened to that. Now, when I pull out that big play. Shay ball.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
All I do is hold it like this in the pants fall. They already know what's gonna happen. Joe.
Ocho
Come on. Come on.
Joe
I just hold them all up.
Ocho
Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on.
Uncle Joe
I. I don't believe it.
Ocho
I seen it. I don't believe it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Hey, I saw it, too. I still.
Ocho
I'm the best bowler you ever played against Ocho. You ain't all. You know it, Joe.
Joe
You drink wine.
Uncle Joe
The best. Who.
Ocho
Yeah, I drink wine. The best bowler you ever played again.
Joe
You know what?
Uncle Joe
Best bowler I played, best bowler I played against. I beat him.
Joe
I'm putting. I'm putting this bottle of wine up to it for you, Joe.
Ocho
What's that? That's red. That's a cap.
Joe
That's red. Back to back, championship wine.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Why it's so little?
Joe
I got the big bottle. I don't know. I think I might have gave the big bottle to my brother.
Uncle Joe
That ain't nothing but a swallow.
Joe
But that's all right. Joe ain't gonna get it.
Ocho
Go get all that memorabilia you got over there.
Uncle Joe
Hey. Hey, Joe.
Ocho
What's up?
Uncle Joe
Hey, I got all that. He ain't got nothing better than. Oh, let me. Let me see what kind of memory I got.
Ocho
You ain't got nothing over there.
Joe
Nothing I do. See, we got this. We play like a Raven. Yeah, that's what we do. We play like a Raven.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
Okay. Hey, Ocho. This is Ocho Go Light right here. Ocho what?
Ocho
Ocho Go like.
Joe
What about these? Ocho.
Uncle Joe
There we go.
Joe
Well, what do they mean, okay?
Uncle Joe
What you know about that? Hey, you ain't even got. You ain't got. Hey, Joe, I got something. I got. I got these, man.
Ocho
What the hell is that?
Uncle Joe
No, hold on. These just ain't any flip flops. These Neymar. Neymar wore these.
Ocho
Neymar warm.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he wore these and he gave them to me, man.
Joe
You put your feet.
Ocho
Now I'm cool on them. Flip flops.
Joe
Yeah. I saw a dude in the back. I saw a dude at the airport with flip flops in the bathroom.
Ocho
They really do. Hey, hey. And throwing flip flops. I ain't. I ain't about to have my feet out like that. No way. I'm just gonna keep 100.
Joe
Yeah, your feet bad Joe, I'm just saying.
Ocho
Hold on, hold on.
Joe
I already know, Joe. I don't see today. You got them hammer toes, toenails, probably black. Yeah.
Ocho
Now my toenails ain't black no more. I got. I got all that out of there. It's over with. Is that gone?
Joe
Oh, you.
Uncle Joe
You took.
Joe
You got them pills or you took the shots?
Ocho
Nah, hell no. I soaked my feet in apple cider vinegar.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Epsom salt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that to get that to get the fungus out of there. I'm good now.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, Joe, hold on. So you don't. You don't want. You don't want named Marcel?
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
What I'm doing with that.
Uncle Joe
Hold on, hold on.
Joe
What about this right here, Ocho?
Uncle Joe
Nah, I got something better now.
Joe
You got the little flip. Yeah, you know, I got that with the glimmer. I got the. That one and the small one.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, you know who phone this is? This is Pablo Escobar phone that he used when he was in Miami.
Joe
Hello?
Ocho
How you get that?
Uncle Joe
What you mean, how I get that, Joe?
Ocho
Oh, who you calling?
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, you want to play for this? This Pablo Escobar?
Ocho
I don't want that damn phone talking about Pablo Escobar. Yeah, n. I'm good.
Joe
You ain't got nothing, Joe. I keep all my phones, Joe. Do you? Hell yeah.
Ocho
You got. I'm saying, you. You still got the Rolodex in there.
Joe
You still go.
Uncle Joe
You.
Joe
If you.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Okay. This right here called me a lot of problems. I'm done. I'm done. Hey, so if anybody watching this. And you know what? I was. And you know what? I had this.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Don't be expecting no calls.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Because it ain't happening.
Uncle Joe
Hey, my. My kid. Hey. My kids must have took my basketball.
Ocho
That LeBron James one.
Uncle Joe
Okay. Yeah. Hey, baby. Man, with my LeBron James basketball at.
Ocho
Hey.
Uncle Joe
Huh?
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I got a life size bobble here. I'm had to bring it down here so y' all can see it. Hey.
Joe
Oh, you want to shoot for a joke?
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I see you got a little bundle over there. You got a little package over there.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean, I mean, clearly you say you want the Kobe. You saw the Kobe, so you want the Kobe.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, hey, it's gonna look better over here anyway. Hey, Ocho, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you. We'll get you a real sign. Ball by. By LeBron. By LeBron. James.
Joe
Okay, well, hold on.
Uncle Joe
I, I got, I got his 40, 000 point ball when he scored.
Ocho
40. Yeah. Cut it out, O.
Joe
Joke. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, them kids and lost my ball.
Joe
My ball.
Uncle Joe
Not even in my closet, man. They probably took my ball.
Ocho
Yeah, it's time to cut it out. We gotta get you right, Ocho.
Joe
You right, though. But I, they, they, they hard now.
Ocho
Look how many I had some cigars.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, you, you, you gotta have them in the humidor, man. Ain't no good now. I keep them.
Joe
I give them to my homeboy, my homeboy smoke them and get high. They probably like weed now. Orchard things. So punchy.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you know you don't want
Ocho
that Pablo cool on their phone, bro.
Joe
Yeah, I got like, I got like 15, 16 in my phones.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Joe
I don't give them back.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you. I bet you ain't got no sidekick.
Joe
I ain't had a sidekick, Ocho. I ain't had a sidekick.
Ocho
I had a sidekick. You had one, Ojo.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, I had that.
Ocho
Flip that thing up real quick,
Joe
right? This joke right here got me a lot of trouble.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Who went through your phone?
Ocho
What do you mean you couldn't lock it?
Joe
All you had to do is just get somebody to get it and you open it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Joe
What you call them is Star 69.
Ocho
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Joe
Every time I got the phone, I called my sister. Star 69 that.
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June 12, 2026 | Shay Shay Media & Playmaker
This episode of Nightcap dives deep into the NFL’s hottest news and storylines, as Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson serve up their signature unfiltered takes on player controversies, blockbuster contracts, and league legends. From the A.J. Brown vs Terrell Owens debate to Patrick Mahomes’ record deal and rumors of Aaron Donald’s return, Unc and Ocho pull no punches—sprinkling in playful banter and personal anecdotes throughout.
NFC North QBs: Listener “King ISO” asks for the hosts' rankings.
Playful banter about which positions they’d play outside their NFL roles, favorite memorabilia, and competitive challenges (bowling, cornhole, and more). [29:25–39:39]
This spirited Nightcap episode is classic Unc & Ocho: honest, lively, and full of personality. Whether debating legacy, contracts, or just trading locker room stories, they create a space where NFL legends are critiqued and celebrated in equal measure–with plenty of laughs along the way. Perfect for listeners wanting strong takes on headline-grabbing NFL news, delivered with warmth, wit, and true insider knowledge.