Nightcap Hour 2: Jaylen Brown CLIP of Calling Embiid a FLOPPER + LeBron’s Lakers ERA is OVER + Denver Nuggets ENTER the LeBron SWEEPSTAKES + Lakers SIGN Walker Kessler + Anthony Davis REACTS to Post on Rob Pelinka + Spurs LAND Tobias Harris + Celtics ...

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 2: LeBron’s Lakers Era Ends, Miami Rumors, and NBA Free Agency - July 2, 2026

Overview

This Nightcap episode features Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (Ocho), and Joe Johnson (“ISO Joe”) giving their raw, rapid-fire takes on massive NBA free agency news—chief among them, LeBron James’ departure from the Lakers. The trio debates where LeBron will land next, breaks down the Lakers’ offseason moves (including the Walker Kessler signing), covers ripple effects for Anthony Davis and other stars, and offers insight on contenders across the league (Heat, Nuggets, Spurs, Celtics, more). The show also delivers signature banter, laughs, and the late-night sports bar feel Nightcap fans love.

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LeBron James Leaving the Lakers: Why, and Where Next?

[04:00 – 26:00]

LeBron Moves On

• Joe Johnson (04:00): Announces definitively: “LeBron James his era with the Lakers… Finito man. After considering his option this offseason, LeBron James decided to leave the franchise in favor of a new beginning.”
• LeBron’s departure was foreshadowed by the Lakers’ lukewarm negotiations; they made him an offer he “knew he would refuse” (10:14).

Is It Just About the Money?

• Unc (06:14): “You say it’s not a financial decision. That’s also a lie. Money always comes into play.”
• The panel agrees it's never truly not about the money, especially for a 42-year-old future Hall of Famer contemplating his last big contract.

Where Next? Miami Looms Large

• Unc campaigns hard for Miami (06:21): “You want to come on down here to the east… This is the best option, best place for you. You want to be happy, how could you not be happy in Miami? No taxes.”
• Ocho co-signs (24:45): “That Miami thing just look too sexy. Hell, he’ll probably be the damn point guard.”
• Both discount LeBron-to-Warriors rumors, citing fit and LeBron’s desire for an easier road in the East (07:57, 35:13).

Memorable banter:
Unc, on going back to an old team: “Sometimes you gotta spin a block, Joe. You ain’t never spun a block back in the day?” (08:20)

Outside Chances: Cleveland, Denver, and Philly

• Cleveland: Possibility of a LeBron return discussed, but Miami is painted as a more attractive option for lifestyle and basketball reasons (25:24).
• Denver Nuggets enter the sweepstakes (34:07): LeBron is willing to take a min contract for a contender, but Ocho doubts LeBron wants the Western Conference grind at his age.
  • “LeBron don’t got time to deal with the Thunder…the Nuggets…the Spurs. I need the easiest route” (35:13 - Unc)
• Celtics, Spurs, and others get brief mentions as less realistic.

The “End of the LeBron Saga” in LA

• Unc (40:25): “I just think Rob and the Lakers…they was ready to be done with the LeBron saga…turn these keys over to Luca.”
• The shift in Lakers power—now focused on Luka Doncic, not LeBron—becomes a recurring theme.

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The Lakers’ Off-Season: New Era, New Star, Same Flaws?

[12:07 – 18:24, 43:14 – 48:47]

Roster Moves and Rotating Superstars

• Big Additions: Walker Kessler (4y/$130M), Quentin Grimes (4y/$60M), Colin Sexton (2y/$19M), “Sandro” (4y/$52M).
  • Joe (14:20): “He’s a double-double guy…He is solid. He can knock down an occasional three. Makes…He looks like Jokic compared to Ayton.”
• Losses: Defensive stoppers like Marcus Smart, Rui Hachimura, and others.
• Unc (16:44): “Same conversation over and over…they obviously can score the ball, but…you can’t stop nobody.”

Can Luka Doncic Be ‘The Guy’?

• It’s Luka’s Team Now:
  • Joe (17:03): “Everything now I’m doing to appease Luka…The Lakers have always had a transcendent player…now we got Luka.”
• Defensive concerns linger:
  • “Your two best players are horrible at defense. Luka and AR…who can they stop?” (16:44)

AD’s Frustration & The “Backdoor”

• Anthony Davis reacts to being “backdoored” by Lakers’ management, finally getting a center after years of asking—just as LeBron is leaving (48:47).
  • Joe: “A.D…played his best when Javale McGee and Dwight Howard were on the roster” (49:26).
  • Ocho: “Rob [Pelinka] and the Lakers, they was ready to be done with the LeBron saga…turn these keys over to Luca.” (50:40)

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Where WILL LeBron Sign? Miami Heat, Cleveland, Nuggets, Others

[24:39 – 42:39]

Miami Heat: The Most Logical Fit

• Miami boasts no state taxes, good weather, winning pieces (Bam Adebayo, Giannis in this imagined scenario), and familiar culture.
• Unc argues repeatedly: “Ain’t no need to talk to nobody else…just come on home, man.” (65:17)

Cleveland: A Nostalgic Option, but Not a Favorite

• Secret meeting with Dan Gilbert noted, but consensus is Miami is both easier and more enticing (25:33).

Denver: Tempting on Paper, Not in Practice

• The panel acknowledges the allure of a Nikola Jokic–LeBron–Jamal Murray trio but doubts LeBron wants more Western Conference wear-and-tear at age 42 (34:52).

Philly & the East: “Go Get the King”

• Ocho floats LeBron-to-Philly as an outside shot; still, Miami remains the clubhouse leader (64:46).

Notable Quote

“He probably could go somewhere, Joe, and get $30-40 million with no chance of winning, but he’d be miserable.” – Joe Johnson (37:43)

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Broader NBA Free Agency: Other Contenders, Moves & Hot Takes

[57:47 – 63:41]

Spurs Land Tobias Harris; Celtics & Bulls Moves

• Quick recaps on Spurs and Celtics activity, and Norman Powell’s new role as vet for the Bulls (77:00).
• Boston’s pressure: “There’s an immense amount of pressure on [Jayson] Tatum. We’re going to find out if Tatum can hold it down… I’ve seen JB [Jaylen Brown] do it without Tatum.” (65:44)

Western Conference Stacked

• Ocho and Unc agree: “The west too thick, man. They ain’t going to be one of the top teams in the west.” (57:47)
• Toronto gets a nod for improvement with Grady Dick and Ingram (58:04).

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Memorable Quotes & Fun Moments

• On LeBron's Statement:
  “If you notice what his statement said…‘hopefully I made a few of you proud’. That’s not an accident.” – Joe Johnson (27:14)

• On Lakers' Defense:
  “Your two best players can’t be that bad defensively and you hope to win a championship.” – Joe Johnson (16:23)

• On Contracts & Taxes:
  “Of that four years, $130 million. Walker Kessler will take home $62.2 million. 13.3% state tax in California.” – Joe Johnson (46:47)

• Lakers as "LA Quakers":
  “I heard they changed the Lakers name to the LA Quakers.” – Joe Johnson (73:36)

• Classic Ocho & Unc Banter:
  On dessert choices and main courses (68:07-70:09), and Ocho's betting losses at a sports bar (60:03).
  On salad: “We just toss salads, boy. We don’t eat them.” – Uncle Joe (70:35)

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Listener Q&A & Lighthearted Segments

[59:41 – episode end]

• Fans ask about the possibility of Kyrie Irving in Miami, new Bulls prospects, death row meals (detailed, hilarious breakdown), favorite Black western movies, and more.
• Emotional fan stories inspire real-life talk about love, family, and grief—“That’s love…Because everybody, you know, people talk about love and they right there with the Birkin bags…But when real life happens, who stays?” (66:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:00 – LeBron’s Lakers Era Ends
• 06:00 – Miami as Top Suitor for LeBron
• 12:07 – Lakers Roster Overhaul (Kessler, Grimes, Sexton)
• 16:23 – Defensive Weakness of Luka + AR
• 24:00 – LeBron’s Next Team Odds: Miami, Cleveland, Denver
• 35:13 – Why No West Teams for LeBron
• 48:47 – AD & LeBron Backdoored; Lakers Move On
• 57:47 – West’s Power, Toronto’s Growth
• 68:03 – Death Row Meals
• 73:36 – Jokes on Lakers’ New Identity

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode maintains Nightcap’s signature blend of humor, barbershop banter, real talk, and off-the-cuff sports insight. Panelists balance sharp basketball IQ with plenty of personal anecdotes, pop culture references, and playful trash talk—making for a high-energy, engaging listen.

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For newcomers:
This episode gives the full scoop on LeBron’s post-Lakers future, the Lakers' new identity, how the NBA landscape is shifting, and delivers the hosts' unfiltered hot takes—with plenty of fun and comedy along the way. If you haven’t tuned in, this is a true mid-summer NBA “barbershop” must-listen!

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LeBron James his era with the Lakers Finito man After considering his option this offseason, LeBron James decided to leave the franchise in favor of a new beginning. While LeBron could have received a nice contract from the Lakers, his free agency won't be solely debased on finances. LeBron is seeking complete happiness with his next contract, per Rich Paul. Rich added that he was 80% sure LeBron will return to the Lakers. But upon checking in with LeBron on multiple occasions over the next few weeks, Rich said that number began to slip once Brian decided to leave the Lakers. Rich informed the team of that decision. LeBron has instructed Rich Paul to gauge league wide interest and come back with options before making his free agency decision. Joe, where does LeBron end up and are you surprised? So let's go with the first. Let's let's start with this first. Are you surprised LeBron is leaving the Lakers? And then you could add, where do you think he'll end up?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I am not surprised that Braun is leaving the Lakers. I kind of seen this to some degree because you know when they were soft pedaling and getting this deal done, then you hear all these different scenarios of different teams, guys he could team up with. I figured it was Rich Rich Rich Paul doing meaning just trying to gain some leverage. But Then I started to see some of these moves that the Lakers have made.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, bro.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They, they, they. They was never trying to bring Braun back. They don't want to be stuck. They didn't want to be stuck in the past the next two, three years at his. His begging plea. Uncle Ocho, I'm just gonna keep it real. But he's still such a high value to where. Wherever he goes right now. Because there is some teams. There's a few teams. I ain't gonna lie. I like him. Go to that. I think he can turn the landscape of the game still at his. At his big age, bro, I think it's a few teams he could go to right now. Okay, Ocho. To where if he joined a team, you'll probably make them the favorite.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What you think of Ocho?

[Uncle Joe]

Listen, it's. Listen, Uncle Joe, we knew. I like. I like the way they said, well, LeBron's chances of going back to LA decrease. LeBron knew LA didn't want him back. Let's. Let's start there.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Thank you.

[Uncle Joe]

You know, you know, internally, they didn't want you back. Obviously, having to defer you would be in the third option. You don't really like that. Boom. Now let's go to places you can play at. You say it's not a financial decision. That's also a lie. Money always comes into play. When it comes to playing in your 23rd season at 42 years old, money is very important, or you would. You'll be playing for free. Where's the best place? What team can pay you the most down here? Goddamn Miami, Huh? What do you have down here in Miami? A relationship. With who? The organization, One that you've already played for. We got Bam, right? We got Giannis. Right? It is free agency right now. We need to get some shooters. We got Tim Hardaway Jr. In now. We're not finished continuing to. To. To construct our team, but add LeBron. This is the best option, the best place for you to be in the East. You don't want to be in the West. You know, we hear all this conversation, all these talks about him playing in Golden State with Steph and Draymond. Listen, y' all want to play together in the off season, y' all go play at the goddamn Summit in New York, huh? Okay, you can have fun doing that. What you don't want to do is you don't want to go to Golden State. It's about, oh, this is going to be my last run and have to deal with the spurs, have to Deal with the Nuggets and have to do deal with the goddamn Thunder. That's not what you want at 42 years old. You want to come on down here to the east, huh? Even though they improve. But it's the easiest route for a team that can contend that you can come to with bam. Be honest and hard Junior and what other assets we build and get in this offseason during free agency. That just makes the most sense. And you want to be happy. How could you not be happy in Miami? No taxes.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

South beach, huh?

[Uncle Joe]

What we talking about? Cuban food. Soul food.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Familiar every.

[Uncle Joe]

You familiar with everything. I'm sure you might have some businesses out here. I'm out here, man. Hey, Joe, we got.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, he trying to make my ex sound like she just so bad. I already been there, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, sometimes you gotta spin a block, Joe. You ain't never spun a block back in the day.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I've been there and done that. I'm cool. I don't want to spin a block. I'm cool. I'm cool. I got. So I got this new thing. I got this other thing.

[Uncle Joe]

Let me tell you something.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, ain't no. Hey. Ain't nothing like that.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, but let me tell you something. Hey, Uncle Joe, after my brand new

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

right out the factory.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, but you know what? You know what? You don't want to deal with that new headache. See, you want to go back to that old thing because you know everything about him. You're comfortable there. That new stuff, that ain't nothing but representation.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Gave me a stomachache.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey, wait.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The whole thing what gave me. Oh, gave me a headache.

[Uncle Joe]

Get you some Pepto Bismol. You'll be all right.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. See, you didn't forgot. See, you don't forgot how you and that old thing broke up. It just looked distance been between us. So it's gonna come back up. Yeah, y' all still gonna have them problems.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, well, let me tell you something. You going to that new thing and you think sweet the land dude left up because of the same problems. So you go you in the you and the honey play thinking sweet. It ain't sweet because she had somebody and he. She got left. So it's gonna be the same thing. The cycle continues to repeat itself.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, it.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

It is.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's what normally would happen. Because guess what? The first thing she gonna say, you ought to go to that. You ought to go to that be you was with before you messed that up. I can't go back to her. You messed it up. I'm like, hey, hey, that was. That could have been an option if you didn't mess it up. If you kept your mouth shut, I could have did, hey, that's a good one.

[Uncle Joe]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But you messed that up. So that's over. That's finito. Second of all, in all seriousness, guys, I told y' all guy, you know, I'm working on. I'm working on some material right now.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But anyway, this was a situation I believe. I don't have anything. Don't have any intimate knowledge. The Lakers made LeBron an offer he. They knew he would refuse.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, they knew he would refuse it.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Also, I believe early on they did everything they possibly could to appease LeBron. They got him what he wanted. I do believe LeBron played a role in them getting Russell Westbrook. I don't believe that was solely the organization.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

They got Camillo Melo. They brought a lot of guys in, And I think LeBron played a role in that. But this is what I do know. Human nature says if I ever get in the position and I can put the advantage in my favor. And that's what the Lakers did when they got Luca. Immediately, that was Lucas team. All of a sudden, LeBron's voice didn't carry the same weight in that organization. Luca, what do you want? Luca? You started hearing. Luca said he wants Austin Reaves over any other free agency. Luca wants an active. Big Luca want an active shoot. It didn't mention LeBron. Yeah, Ramona Shelburne. It was reporting that they had a meeting with Craig at a Craigs with Luca and his representative on Melrose. LeBron wasn't there. This is. Look, in 2026, LeBron's 52 million comes off the book. We'll have X amount of dollars to spend in free agency. Why you think Lucas signed that extension? So go ahead.

[Uncle Joe]

I got a question, Uncle Joe. I got a question. Now, I know Lakers fans, Lakers organization, Rob Palinka, and anyone else that's in positions of power that's constructing this team that didn't want LeBron to come back. The whole point of constructing the team is to contend for a title. Am I correct? Did you not see the signings they had today? Did you?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, they look like the LA game.

[Uncle Joe]

Did you not see the signs they had today? Joe, which way are they going? Are they contending or are they going backwards?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That is not me personally. I still. Look, Kessler is a better defender than Aiden. I mean, he's active. He plays hard. I think his uncle, uh. I think his uncle Kessler, I think they went to Georgia, if I'm not mistaken. I think that was his uncle, Eric Kessler, if I'm not mistaken. Chat. Y' all can check that if you want to. With that being said, your two best players are horrible at defense. You look at their signings, you tell me, other than Kessler, where the defense is coming from.

[Tab Ramos]

Nope.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Cause you lost smart.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You lost smart. He was your best defender. You're gonna lose, Rui. You lost. You lost. What's the lefty guy? The guy. He went to Phoenix.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Now, I think they gotta. Got. Look, they got Quentin Grimes. They got Grimes for Philly.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, I like Grimes, though.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Shooter from Toronto, and they feel they. They're surrounded by shooters.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hold on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay, but what you. What you gonna do?

[Uncle Joe]

It's been there. Achilles heel for how long? We've been having the same conversation over and over and over about them obviously being able to score the ball, but here, you can't stop no damn body. So you're still in the same position even with the new signings. And I don't. I don't know, Mr. Kessler. I don't want to be disrespectful, you know, but, I mean, are you a dick?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He's solid. He's solid.

[Uncle Joe]

We're solid.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He. He. He. Listen, he's. Look here. I.

[Tab Ramos]

He.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I ain't like, oh, my God, me. I. Oh, boy. We got right. Well, we got right monster in the middle. I ain't doing that. Hey, you're a double double guy.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He gets you 10, 11 points. He gets you 10, 11, 12 rebounds.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What? He is solid. He can knock down occasional three. He. He. He makes. Put it like this here. He. He is. He looked like Jokic compared to Ayton.

[Uncle Joe]

That bad, huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Compared to.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. They got. Hey, listen, they do. They don't have enough melanated brothers. I give them that. You know what I mean? They don't. They all gone. Yeah, they all gone. But at the same time, what they got?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I think they got. They got Bronnie Vando and another. And Quinn Grimes.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

And Quinn Grimes, he beig. So he only, you know. Yeah, he beige. But.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

But they got some dep, though, uncle. Oo meaning dep at that center position. Because now Aiden can come off the damn bench whether he like it or not.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He g. You know, coming off the couch.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You should be coming off the couch. Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

So I think. I think there'll be a. A decent team to watch. I mean, obviously.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, they got Colin Sexton, too, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, I like.

[Uncle Joe]

I like signing. Yeah, I saw him sign him too.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

But at the same time, man, it's like, I don't really know what they doing, bro. I think they're gonna be competitive, but if we talking about winning a title, hell, to be honest with y', all, man, it ain't gonna be but a couple teams contending for that anymore.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, well, I tell you what, the Lakers starting five look like gamma fire rope, huh? And everybody got on sperries. Thank you. Thank you, baby.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, yo. Oh, the road trip. Ain't no but catches and blue blazers.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Ain't nobody Shriners convention. No, but, but. But in all seriousness, Luca and ar. Luca is going to be Luca. Luka's going to score no matter what. AR is going to be able to get points. But the question is, who can they stop? And we saw this last year, and we saw this in situations, it is very difficult for ar. His lateral movement isn't good. Luka is not good at defense.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

And.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And I'm being nice chat. I'm not making y' all know this. Y' all watch. Luka is. Luka is one of my favorite players. And I might catch a Lakers game just to see. Able to see. I saw Luka in a Lakers uniform. But they're not good defensively. Your two best players can't be that bad defensively. And you hope to win a championship.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Nah, this is what they dealing with right now, though. Unc and Ocho, you know, well, look,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

he built the team. This is the way Rob Pelinka was wanted to build a team. Yeah, this is the way he wanted to build a team. He built the team like he wanted it. He believe. Hopefully Luca is happy because everything now I'm doing to appease Luca.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Y. Y.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Everything I'm doing to appease Luca,

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

granting

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

his wish because he's the guy that's going to be the bridge to. To keep this thing going. The Lakers have always normally had an all had a transcendent player because they had, you know, they had Baylor and they had Wes, and then when those guys and Wilt and then Kareem comes and then Magic comes and then Worthy, and then you had a little love there, and then you get Shaq, Kobe, and then, you know, Kobe runs that and then you have a law and then LeBron. LeBron comes to your team and do you have that? And now we got Luca.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So they've done a great job of transitioning basically every five to 10 years of having a superstar to replace a superstar. The Lakers have done a great job. You go back and look at them, study them. They've done a great job of that. And so now everything is for Luke and it should be. I think LeBron felt that and I do this and, and, and, and, and Rich and we could LeBron and y' all know how I feel about LeBron. I do believe early they made a lot of concessions for LeBron.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I believe Taylor Horton. I believe one of the reasons why they like, because they gave Taylor Horton the money. They should have gave Caruso.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Brian vouched that though.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's what they did.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Caruso should have been on there. Now Horton Tucker is in Turkey or Greece or overseas somewhere and Caruso is playing meaningful basketball on a championship winning.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what also, you know what also that means. Even though Braun had the privilege and he was the guy to defer to when, when it comes to decision making on who you want to keep around. Yes, your team, they ignored what he had to say. He had a better understanding than those that, that are making the calls on one Caruso to be there. But obviously they wanna, they wanna pick who they want to pick, which lets you know he didn't have the leverage. He, he did probably because of where he was at in his career as well.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But here's the thing, though. So you can't have it both ways. You can't recommend behind the scenes that we sign somebody and then when we sign them and then it blows up. It goes all on the general manager.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, okay, wait, you lit the firecracker.

[Uncle Joe]

Which player? Which player?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Taylor, Horton, Tucker, Carmelo. A lot of these guys, come on, look at the best player. They're going to run it by the best player. Milwaukee did not make any move without running it by Giannis.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And then when it didn't work out, he's like, well, you, you traded, you traded Holiday. How else were we gonna get Dame? You said you wanted another co star. We had to give up Holiday in order to get Dane.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Right.

[Uncle Joe]

So. Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, hey, speaking of basketball, right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yes.

[Uncle Joe]

Giannis and bam, they're gonna be, they're gonna be training down here in Miami together, obviously in the off season before they got, before they got to go to an instruction environment and what they do with the Miami Heat. And I'm gonna be out of training with the boy, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, you, you are What y' all

[Uncle Joe]

gonna be doing stuff for the Goody Boys? This work, Joe? Yeah, yeah. I call. I called out Giannis, I called out Bam. And both of them answered. So I'm gonna play both of them one on one. And I mean, I'm. I'm have my girl film it. So I'm gonna get. I'm getting. Boy, what they looking for? You hear me?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But look.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, don't put that on tape.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Is that they finally.

[Uncle Joe]

But what happened, Joe? What happened?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And Ocho, the Lakers for the next seven years don't have a first round pick. This has got to work. It's gotta work. They have no assets. They have nothing. That said, okay, we'll give you Deandre Ayton Vando, or we'll give you Laravia, or we'll give you. Connect this guy. And a first round pick. They don't have any. 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33. They don't have a first round pick until 2034. This has to work.

[Uncle Joe]

But it's not going to work. I understand. You have Luca, right? You have Austin Reeves. Like, let's look at the teams that have won the championship in the last three years. Look at Boston. Look what Boston had.

[Tab Ramos]

Look at this.

[Uncle Joe]

Look at the. Look what the Thunder had. Look at the Knicks. Look what the Knicks had. The Lakers are not constructed like that.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Ocho, I'm saying you. You saying it's not gonna work. Does that mean they're not going to be a decent playoff team?

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, they going home in the first round. Who they gonna beat in the West Championship?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Joe, that's probably gonna happen. That's probably gonna happen. But I'm just saying. I'm saying they gonna win some games, they just not gonna be championship contender. I mean, you wearing that purple and gold, you know what come with it?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Exact name. The superstar that has never won a championship in a Lakers uniform. Wilt did. The only one you could say that didn't win one was Baylor. Elgin Baylor retired in the next year. They won the championship in 72. But then you come along and you got Kareem and you get Magic and you get Worthy, and you get Shaq, and you get Kobe, and you get Pow, and you get Braun and you get Ad. So every superstar other than Baylor. That's one. George Michael started it off in Minnesota. He won five. So every superstar other than Baylor won a championship. Luca has to win a championship.

[Uncle Joe]

It ain't happening. I give. Listen, they have a 3.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Some history in that Lakers uniform.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Uncle Joe, I've been right with my NBA predictions for the past three years, right? And I'm telling you right now, based on what I see looking at the landscape of the Lakers right now, for one look at the starting five. The starting. That starting five ain't beating nobody no goddamn body. We know, we know. Looking get his. We know what Austria is gonna do. Outside of that. You look at that starting five and tell me what other starting five that coming out the west that they can beat in a seven game series. I ain't talking about regular season. Regular season don't matter. I don't care about the numbers you putting up then. I'm talking about who you gonna beat when it matters most. Who is that starting five gonna be, Joe? The. The Thunder, The Spurs?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

They are one thing we can't agree on, Joe. They slow as hell.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Defect. We. We know they challenge defensively. That's why you go, guys like AR and Luca, their offense has to be their defense. Meaning they gonna have to be tops and scoring just to be competitive. They gotta be Uncle Ocho Hill. Luca gonna have to average 30.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, well, Luca's gonna average 30, but AR is gonna need to average around 25, 26.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. For them to be. For them to be able to compete in that Western Conference, they gonna have to be amazing. Hey,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

and look, the thing is that I hope, I hope. Look, just because LeBron isn't there. I like Luca. I've been a Luca fan chat. Y' all remember me on Undisputed? Me and Skip used to get into it all the time about Luca. I like Noah. No, he can't play no defense, but he gonna light your ass up on offense, though.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, seen it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I. I like. I, I like Luca. I just think it's going to be hard for them to win a championship when your two best players are that defensively challenged. That's all I'm saying.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Where do you think LeBron end up, Joe? Ocho, I'm gonna throw it out to you. Oh, Joe first. And I'll take it. Let you have it, Ocho.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

What do I think Braun is going to end up if the warriors thing? Obviously, I don't think that's gonna work. I do. I think he. I think he's going back to. He going back to an exact. It's gonna be Cleveland or Miami. It's gonna be one of them, probably, if I'm him. Uncle. Oo real talk, that Miami thing just look too sexy. It's hard to say. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. Playing with Bam and Giannis and him just being able to facilitate. See, he can have a lot of the ball handling duties versus if he go to, if he go to Cleveland. Hey, you got Donovan and James Harden.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You know what I mean? Yeah, he'll still get the handle and playmate, but playing in Miami, hell, he'll probably be the damn point guard.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But they're saying now I did. I don't know if you saw this report that, that a couple of weeks ago, Dan Gilbert and LeBron had a secret meeting.

[Uncle Joe]

Don't worry about that. It wasn't big. Hey, hey, Joe. It was a secret, but it wasn't Victoria. Don't worry about that. Joe just explained to you why I'm telling you. LeBron is coming here. Joe just broke it down in depth a little better than I can.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

He did. He went the exit nose route. I didn't want to go to X and nose route like, you know, I'm telling you what my sources told me.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not Shams, you know, I'm not Wind Horse, but I know my stuff and I ain't been wrong yet. So when LeBron does come, I want both. I want Unc. I want you to say, you know what, Osho, you was right. I can't believe it. You've been right all year long when it comes to NBA, huh?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Look, I'm picking Miami cause I'm just really trying to jinx it on the low. But nah, when you. Nah. But when you really think about it, Ocho. Nah, for real, when you think about it, I can see him going to Miami. Real talk. Because he'll get to handle the Rock. It's him and Giannis for real. As opposed to in Cleveland. Even though James Donovan can play off the ball.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't like the Donovan, James Harden either.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I know.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Now if you, if you go, let James Harden go. But that don't make any sense considering what you gave up because you let go. You gave up Garland. Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You ain't let.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You ain't and a pick, I think.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So it does. That doesn't make sense to me. And look, Miami seems like the most logical choice. But hey, the one thing is that you follow LeBron over his 23 now about to be 24 year career. LeBron go do what the elf LeBron want to do.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Whatever the criticism is, it is. He said y' all gonna criticize me one way or Another. So if you notice what his statement said. Did you read his statement? What did he say, Joe? I, I, I. He said hopefully I made a few of you proud.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's not an accident. No.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what he doing?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Name. Name the time you seen someone that's leaving somewhere. Normally. I hope I made you crowd Bronco country or this or that. Whatever. Whatever. A Raider Nation. Nobody says F E W. Anytime. Go to. Go to New England. I hope you don't think you're gonna make them forget Gronk. They gonna. You're never gonna be Gronk in their eyes. You go Kansas City. Kansas City was lucky. Kansas City. They got the. The greatest tight end and a top five tight end in Gonzo. And I think Kelsey. Where you going? Same thing with the Chargers. They had, they had Big K, Winslow Senior and they had Tone.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Man, listen, when you talk about from a defensive standpoint, I don't know, man. The Miami, the Miami move makes sense to me.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe, it makes it make the most.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

They resign Wiggins. But let me ask you a question. What they hold on. If they signed Wiggins to that contract, they really can't get rid of Wiggins until after the, after the, after the new year, right, Joe?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Why they got to get rid of Wiggins?

[Uncle Joe]

We just signed Tim Hardaway Jr. Too.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Keep Wiggins.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, we. We good, huh? Yeah, we good, huh? Hey, defense, good. We got, we got two shooters, huh? We got our point guard, huh? Hey, LeBron, I know you're gonna see this. I ain't mean to spit it. I ain't mean to spill the beans, but come on down here, Twin. I'm gonna be waiting on you, huh? Every go. Have we gonna have lunch at Poppy Steak stk. Huh? Carbone, huh? What you want to do? If we go to Tootsies, we're going through the back way. Holla at your boy.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The mere fact that the LeBron, even after Dan Gilbert said what he said publicly, even what he put out and he still went back, I think he forget. I think he can forgive Pat Riley for throwing cookies in the trash.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, I'm glad you're a believer. I'm glad I can make you a believer. I'm glad you listened to me. Hey, Joe, you know what? Hey, you my dog because you know, you know, your ball knowledge is on point tonight, huh? You hear me?

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[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

It's the rage bait.

[NBC News Anchor]

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

for availability and my bio knowledge just on point because I'm on your damn side. I already know what's going on. I see, I see. I see what I'm dealing with.

[Uncle Joe]

Let's go.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh oh oh.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

According to the Denver Post, the Denver Nuggets has entered their name into the LeBron James sweepstakes. They in the chat is close friends with the Nuggets team president and governor Josh Kroenke. The two reportedly vacationed together in summer of 2016 after Braun led the Cavaliers to a title and Cronkey even gifted Bron a retro Nuggets jersey in 2018 as part of a summertime attempt to land him in free agency. Sean's report LeBron is willing to accept a minimum contract to play for a contender if and doesn't intend to make it financially driven this time around. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. James, Nicola Jokic, Jamal Murray.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

That sounds good, man. It's a. Hey, I'm not gonna lie.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn. Damn, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Listen, Ocho. Damn. It's a few situations that really, really sound good for Brian. I ain't gonna lie to you. And. And him being in Denver is one the only thing, man, that Western Conference, bro, when you can go to the east and it could be a lot simpler. That's all.

[Uncle Joe]

That's why he's not going to the West. That's why the Golden State and the Denver. That don't make no sense. LeBron don't got time to deal with the Thunder. He didn't want to deal with. He don't want to deal with the Nuggets, huh? He don't want to deal with the. With the spurs, man, I'm 42. I'm going to year 24, 23, whatever it is. I got a great beard. I need the easiest route I need the easiest route on a team that I know can contend. That I know that can contend. And who is that? Right down here in south beach at the Casa Center. What we talking about? And, And, And. And Klay Thompson. I know you saw my goddamn tweet. Bring your ass down here, too. I don't care what people think about you. I know you can shoot and think about the space and think about the space you're gonna have with Braun and Giannis and goddamn. Bam. What? Come on, man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Ocho, I can win. I can win a lot of battles if you give me the right. If you give me the right equipment.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, that's what she said. Where you want to see him go? Real talk.

[Uncle Joe]

Don't mess. Don't mess up the show tonight. What do you want to see him go? Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know, hey, you know, hey. Oh, dimmer.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Come on, man. You think about Broncos and all this.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Be realistic. Bronco country, baby. Look, man, because I. This might be his last year. I don't give a damn where he go. I'm going. I'm going to see him.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

This might be his last year. The only thing I hope. Hey, I didn't get one of those jerseys, the Laker jerseys with one of them down specialty patches. Patches, you know what I'm saying? 23rd season or most this or most that. But I'm go. I'm going. I don't give a damn where you go. I'm going.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm saving my money now. I'm saving my money. Now I'm putting out five. I'm saving 500 a week until basketball season roll around.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, listen, he got some nice moves. Hey, look, the.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The, The. The.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

The beauty in this is that at 41 years old, bro, you still get a chance to pick and choose where it is that you want to play and. And display your talents. That's rare. Hell, at this point, you want. Who want you here. You know what I mean? He.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He probably could go somewhere, Joe, and get 30, $40 million with no chance of winning, but he'd be miserable just

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

to have him on the team.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

LeBron James hadn't really been in a situation maybe a handful of times that he really didn't have a realistic chance of making the playoffs or contending for a title. Yeah, to go somewhere at 42, Joe. Oh, yeah. I'm making $30 million. I'm making $40 million. No, hell no. I'm.

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

It's. I gotta win. I gotta have a chance of winning, even if I'm fooling my damn self. Hey, listen, have a chance at winning.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, think about this. Even think about him joining Philly. What about if.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

What if Braun join Philly?

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I'm just. Come. I'm just throwing it out there. Oh. I'm just saying

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I need. Look, all things being equal, the west coast would be the best for me. Or even if not, the west is the mountain. I mean, I'm gonna have to be on that side of town to go to Miami or Cleveland. And, you know, Bronco, man, you know, them. The tickets already gonna be high as giraffe.

[Uncle Joe]

Let me ask you something.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

So whoever.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Uncle Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

What's up?

[Uncle Joe]

Is the number six available in Miami?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He probably gonna go with something else. That was the last chapter. We.

[Tab Ramos]

He.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He go with a whole nother number.

[Uncle Joe]

So 23.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Nah, he might. Hey, he might. Yeah, he might go. He might. Because guess What? He was 6, and he might bring 23. Cause guess what? Ain't nobody got that 23 Heat jersey.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They retired 23 for MJ, though.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, that's right. That's right. Pat, you wrong for that. How you gonna retire somebody? Jersey.

[Uncle Joe]

What number. What number would he go to, you think?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Man, this would be a. I ain't

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

never seen him in anything. But. But 23 and 6.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

But y' all know, look, look, look. This would be a different. This would be another beginning for him, bro. Maybe even an ending to some degree. I could see him switching up his number.

[Uncle Joe]

What number did he wear? What Number did he wear in high school? I'm talking about when he played football.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hell, you know what he. I'm trying to think. What about his number? What. What was his number at on the US Team?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Like nine.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Look that up quick.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Was it nine? I say, no, it wasn't nine. That was.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joey was nine, wasn't he?

[Uncle Joe]

I can see him being whatever number it was when he played football. He might do that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, he ain't getting no. He ain't getting no double.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, he was single. Did you remember he was a tight end?

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What was the number? Which. What was the number? Six. Six.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Now he gonna go. He gonna go a whole new number, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey. And be the number one selling. Jerk. And be the number one selling.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

There you go.

[Uncle Joe]

Easy. I'm. You know, I'm asking tomorrow, though. I'm asking tomorrow.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You gonna see him tomorrow?

[Uncle Joe]

I'll text.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know what? I want to see what number he comfortable. I'll have Rich Paul. Rich Paul got to come on. Who? Rich Paul got Rich. Got to come on tomorrow.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, man, get Rich.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm gonna hit him up. I'm gonna hit him up.

[Uncle Joe]

I could teach Rich a thing or two about basketball, man. Man, get him on here, man. I'm a schooling, see? Bingo.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He was number nine.

[Uncle Joe]

He gonna wear nine. He gonna come to the heat and wet.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Nah,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

so he can't get. He can't.

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, D. Wade, three is retired.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

23 is retired. Six across the league with Mr. Russell. I think that's retired into dash.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

No, he. He ain't gonna go one. Cause one, he gonna get.

[Uncle Joe]

He. I don't tell you he gonna go now. I'm telling you. Watch. I'm telling you.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, but hold up, though, y'.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, you don't like the Minnesota. Him in Minnesota?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I. I read that. Yeah. I like him and that man.

[Uncle Joe]

Ah, so you. Why y' all keep putting it back in the west, man?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Man, he said he wanna.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He said he want a chance to contend, and he want to have fun.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, he ain't gonna have no fun in the West.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He ain't gonna have no fun.

[Uncle Joe]

Gonna have fun. You have fun right here in South Beach. That's what you have fun at, huh? You have fun. Yeah, you know what? Defensively, you ain't got to do much, huh? Just. Just be in the way because we got. Bam. We got Yanis. They gotta take care. They take care of the heavy load. We got our shooters. All right, Come on, man. Y' all trying to put the man in the West the man is 41, 42. He ain't got time to be running after them little kids.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, all I'm saying is I'm going to see him play. I don't give a damn way. Play. I'm going.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I gotta.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I gotta see one game. Young.

[Uncle Joe]

You can stay with me. You can stay on the West Wing at my place.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I think you're gonna be. Yeah, I think you're gonna be in the Eastern Conference. Man, I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Martha (Kohler Ambassador)]

All.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, nah, you already told me I can't stay with you.

[Uncle Joe]

Why now you good?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I wasn't gonna be able to shake the covers.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, but no, you. You gonna be on the West Wing. I ain't gonna be. I ain't gonna be able to see or hear that. You good.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, you know. You know, I be. I'm okay. I might make a little noise. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, we already know.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

There you go. Oh, Jesse. There you go. Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, listen, you ain't fooling me. I know what's going on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean. I mean, see, Joe, that don't make you no bad brother, though.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, I'm gonna have. I'm watch all the kids, man, while I'm gone.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, man, that's gonna be a move in itself, right,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joe? The Lakers got the A list. Center for Luca. The league. The Lakers are acquiring Walker Kessler from the Utah Jazz for an unprotected first round picks in 20, 31 and 20, 33. First round pick swaps in 28 and 30. Kessler will sign a massive four year, $130 million deal with the Lakers, which include a player option for the fourth season and a full trade kicker. Lakers also signed Quentin Grimes, four years, 60 million. Colin Sexton, two years, 19 million. And Sandro. Yeah, him. Four years, 52 million. Joe, you like what the Lakers are putting around Luca?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I like. I like. I like some of the additions, Uncle Ocho, but that ain't gonna be enough. I'm sorry. That ain't gonna be enough. Not in that Western Conference, bro. It ain't gonna be enough. So, you know, I know they invested a lot of money this off season. Obviously Braun wasn't a part of it. And then 100. What you say? 130 million for Kessler.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What? Four years, 134 for 60 for Quentin Grimes. Sandro got four years, 52. Colin Sexton got two years, 19.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He gonna have to be a bad boy, boy. Bring him over there for 130 to play with Luca. Yeah, I know. I know.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You know, he'll be. He gonna kind of clog the paint. He can shoot the three defensively is really why.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's why he's gonna help, because he's much better. He's much better than. Than Ayton.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I definitely think they. You know, obviously they knew they was. They was in need of a center. So, you know, we. We'll have to see what the Lakers can come up with, bro. We'll see how this team meshed together, you know, with some of these pieces, but it's just gonna be hard to look at that now. You don't see Braun run up or down the court. You know what I mean? It's just. It's gonna take some adjusting.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I'm kind of gonna miss going to the Lakers. I would go. I gotta go. I gotta go see Luca play at least once. I gotta see Luke in the legal uniform, so.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, Luke.

[Tab Ramos]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Luca gotta come with his hard hat this year, boy.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But he's never. He's never felt this kind of expectations. I know in. In Dallas is one thing, and I know he got to the NBA finals and Phenomenal. And they didn't win. I think they lost, what, four, one. But the. The different level of expectations when you play for the purple and gold,

[Podcast Co-host 1]

and

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't know, it. Look, he. He should be just fine because he's one of the great players that's currently playing and one of the best players in NBA history. But it's championship or bus. There is no other. I tell you what, it ain't no man. He led the league and score, and he did this, he did that. It's all about championships. He's got to get at least one. Multiple would be nice. Lakers nation would love for him to get multiple, but he has to get at least one.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, this is real life. The Lakers are playing in the West. This team isn't constructed or built to win a championship in the next one, two, three, or four years. It's just not reality. This ain't 2K. Now, if you're playing NBA 2K, and you really good with the sticks, probably, but realistically speaking, based on the way they're built, there are only so many moves you can make because of the money you got tied up in the players you playing now. You're paying now. I mean, I'm sure people in the chat. I mean, if you understand and understand the game and the landscape of the way things look right now, the next three or Four years, you kind of stuck with what you got.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, O. Joe. Joe. Of that four years, $130 million. Walker Kessler will take home $62.2 million.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Why?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

13.3% state tax in California.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

36%.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So when you fit in FICA, Medicaid, and like you said, Joe, they put a portion of that in escrow, right?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Boot. There it is. There it is.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, look, I. I think Luca, okay, Ocho, he's still gonna have to be a juggernaut offensively. Meaning, you know, even if they don't. Let's say they. Let's say they. They do slip to where they are. Lower seed playoff team or 7 c. AC. He still got to be averaging about. Damn. 30.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, he. No, no, no, no, Luca. I mean, in the playoffs, if they're low, he's gonna. I mean, for them, he's gonna need to average what he averaged. I mean, 33. 30. Somewhere between 33 and 35 this year, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, you right. Yeah, just.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And AR is going to be. And neither one of those guys can get hurt.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, but they have a history of what?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Well, Officer Reed, this is the first last year with. The first year Lucas had a history of being injured. Yes.

[Uncle Joe]

All right. See? Hey, Chat Chat. Trying to get on my head. You know, they talking trash to me. I see y'. All. I see everything you're saying.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

I know you might be a Laker fan. I don't mean no disrespect. I'm just being honest with you. Most of the time, the best person to get the truth from is somebody that doesn't know what he's talking about. And I don't know nothing about no basketball. But I tell you one thing, y' all ain't winning nothing the next three or four years.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And Brian pulled a nice move, waited to Bronnie. Contract was guaranteed. Didn't hit y' all with the yeah, I ain't coming back. Anyway, Anthony Davis responded with a crying, laughing emoji to a post saying Rob Pelinka backdoored him. And LeBron. Anthony Davis practically begged Rob Pelinka to get him a center alongside him for years. Rob didn't budge. AD Got backdoored. Brian Low key got backdoored. And now you want to get be a competent gm. That dual one year championship is gone. You can't make this ish up. Lol.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hold on back, though. Mean, like I tell you. I tell you on Ocho, man, I ain't trained y'.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

We good and then I end up. That's back, though.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. Because A.D. look, if you go back and look at A.D. he played his best win, Javale McGee. Dwight Howard was on the roster, and if they started it, they. They were starting conventional, kind of like what Cleveland does. It's two bigs, then late, the last five minutes of the ball game, six minutes of the ball game, they would kick AD to the five, but they would start the game with AD playing the four.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Because you had JaVale McGee and you had Dwight Howard. So now he's like, I can be. I'm not. I'm not drained from battling Joel Embiid. I'm not drained from battling Jokic. I'm not drained. So now the last five minutes after javale and worn you down. Dwight Howard is worn you down. Now I come in, you're not as. You're not as active as you need to be because they've been banging on you, Paul. Now I get to come in and do what I do. That's how he's looking at it, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But Rob is saying, hold on, bro. We gave you a max contract to play the B. Yeah. So you want me to give somebody else a max contract? Give you a max contract? Braun on the max contract? No.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Nah. And I. I just think. I think Rob and the Lakers, they were. They was ready to be done with the. With the LeBron saga, if you would say, you know, Uncle Ocho, go turn these keys over to Luca, man. Let's build his team around Luca. Let's see what he can do for us over the next five to seven years. Hopefully we can get us a title. But I. I just think, you know, hey, man, they just moving on. They moving forward. I don't really blame Rob for that. I don't necessarily. I don't want to say he backdoored him, but obviously AD probably knows something that I don't know. Maybe he told him and Braun something that we all would never know. But his job is to make that team competitive, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You know, and trading AD I ain't That. I ain't that mad at him here.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

If you don't trade. If you don't trade, guess what? You gotta. You gotta give LeBron whatever you want. If you don't get. If you don't get Luca, LeBron's gonna get three more years. Two. Plus an option at about 55, $60 million a year. Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

It's just the facts. Yeah, it's just the facts.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They found.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I agree with you. The Lakers were ready to be done.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And how much? Because here's the thing. Now we got to factor this in also. How much pool do the Lakers actually have over there? Walters, who own the dodgers, he paid 10 billion. Sure he had some say in this. Yeah,

[Uncle Joe]

Let's go.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So they got the wealthiest owner in, in sports, the man's worth 150 billion.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

But hold on, hold on. But the Clippers ain't gonna be competitive with him. The damn Raptor's gonna be competitive with him in the Eastern Conference.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

If I thought Kawhi could be healthy, I could be competitive with him.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Well, Toronto think that. Cause they gave him 124.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I said the Clippers. If Clippers thought they could be competitive with him, they would. Did that.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. I don't think the Clippers.

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[Podcast Co-host 1]

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[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

It's the rage bait.

[NBC News Anchor]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Podcast Co-host 1]

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They know they're not going to be competitive. You know, over the next couple years, they in somewhat of a rebuilding stage. The west too thick, man. We know that they ain't going to be one of the top teams in the west, but you look at Toronto, what they finished. They finished what? They finished six fifth.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I think there was a. They were a fifth seed.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Because they played Cleveland.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Toronto played Cleveland the first round.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. So I think they gonna be better. I think they'll be better. Hell, Grady Dick wasn't playing pause. And. Ingram. And Ingram was an all star. So if you flop, flip flop him and Ingram and he plays, he get him. He get him. Great productivity in Toronto, man, they gonna be all right.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

But they got that situation, and I'm surprised he went back because it was Toronto that blew the lid on it. Talking about what uncle did is wanted. Uncle Diddy wanted. Want to want a part of the team. And he wanted to, you know, sponsors, and he want Kawhi. Like, Kawhi ain't gonna show up. He said, well, you know, they gonna want advertising. They gonna want, you know, commercial shoes or something like.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Nah. Hey.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And come to find out everything that Toronto wouldn't do.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

The Clippers would.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The Clippers did.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So two teams like. Hold on.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They're like.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Because he went to the Lakers. Lakers say we can't do that.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, we can't.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We can't, you know, give you. Buy you a condo and buy you this and then. No, but, hey, he's going back. Clearly, they're a. I forgive y', all, too. Y' all gonna give me 62 million a year. I'll forgive you.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, and in them contracts, I can oat your head. You better ask for whatever it is you can't ask for because they'll put it in there. You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, you know your girl fly on the flight. Flight with you and all kind of stuff.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Now it's time for our final saving of the evening.

[Uncle Joe]

It's time for Q. Yeah, I'm feeling good tonight. Might as well go another hour, see?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Let's go.

[Uncle Joe]

Feeling good tonight, bruh.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

USA let's go, baby. Ocho, did you dispute them charges on your card when you had to buy everybody drinks at the bar?

[Uncle Joe]

No, no, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. That was, that was the last last week game when USA played Australia, obviously. I, I, I made the bet, Uncle Joe. I was at a bar in. Damn, where was I at? I can't remember where I was. I forgot the name of the bar. But I told the whole bar I was doing something with draft king. I told the whole bar, if USA scores before the half, I'm buying everybody drinks at the half. And goddamn USA scored. I was hurt. I, I was hurt. I was, I was hurt. But, you know, it was, it was, it was a good cause. It was for a good deed. And I did what I was supposed to.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Is called soccer. Question for all. With all these trades and signing, could the Heat possibly get Kyrie? Bull fan, I hope we sign Jalen Duran.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Why can the Heat.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

It seems to me. Why would, why would the Mavericks trade Kyrie?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Well, if you the Mavericks, the only, the only reason why I could see them trading Kyrie is that they just really turning it, turning the car over the Cooper flag, you know, Kyrie. Hey, y' all know that boyfriend to come out here and do his one, too. He ain't gonna be trying to defer to no damn body.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You feel what I'm saying? So depending on how you look at it, obviously I think he still got some great basketball left in him. But you saying him going to Miami, huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, they said yeah to the Heat.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

That's too much. They got too much going on.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm just saying. Think about it. Kyrie at the point, Braun at the two. They can, they can, they can, you know, flip flop. They play off each other real well.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Bam. Yanis,

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

boy, y' all trying to turn Miami upside down.

[Uncle Joe]

Listen, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm tweet Kyrie tomorrow, so I'm gonna see what he see. If he answer back.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

This is my only defender we lost. Yeah, you have no defenders. That's why the Lakers were so bad. He talking about only defender we lost was smart. You ain't have any but him. The hell, Joe? Where's Jalen Duran going?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He going back to Detroit. How's Detroit gonna let that man go. They just don't want to pay him the 2 to 200 something. They gonna let somebody else come in and. Yeah, I mean, well, he better.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, guess what? He better hope somebody come in. Cause guess what? If don't nobody come in, I ain't got, you know what? I ain't got but 20 a year for you now.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hold up though. But that's, that's kind of what almost happened to me, Uncle Ocho, when I left Phoenix, you know, because Phoenix could match and any team that offered me a contract, you know, they were telling all these teams, look, whatever y' all offering, we gonna match it anyway, you know what I mean? So then, look, I had to get on the phone with my agent with, with, with, with Robert Salver, who was the owner of the Phoenix Suns. He had just became an owner and I had to tell him, don't match, man. Like, hey, look, man, let me go on, bro. You know what I'm saying? You don't really want me.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Got your team over there, huh? You got your team over there. Leave me be.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, let me go. Let me go and ride out. Hey, hey, hey. So. But that ain't gonna happen in Detroit. I'm telling you that right now. They ain't gonna let that boy go, man. That's 2010 all star, third team all NBA here. He's the reason why you were able to have so much success last year. I don't see them letting them go out.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

PG played 37 games, but got suspended for 25 games. If you don't get suspended, he plays 62. No, it's not an awards eligible, but is more games played than LeBron and Ant Man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Well, injuries play a major role in, in a lot of the top teams. And it was some unforeseen circumstances with pg, so if he could come back, you know, obviously be healthy, play at least 60, 65 games, that'll help Boston. Boston got guys they can plug and play when other. When they, when they top guys don't play. And they don't. They don't really miss a beat. So that don't really concern me that much.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, what you call them? They should have got Sam Houser too, from Philly. I said no, we want Sam Houser too.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, Boston ain't letting them go. They like them shooters, guys who can floor spaces.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know the way.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You got to stay honest. You got to have those guys around. Jason Tatum, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, nightcap fam. My 27th birthday is in a few hours. Can I Get a shout out. Un got my La Portier to celebrate. Absolutely. Happy 27th birthday, KJ. Show KJ happy birthday.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Cancer.

[Uncle Joe]

Happy 27th, twin.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yes, it is.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Appreciate you supporting the Laportier brand. We greatly, greatly appreciate your eyes on Nightcap. And I appreciate you purchasing a bottle of Shade by laportier. Jalen playing with. With revenge. Tatum might fracture a real. When JB hit that first elbow. Step back. All right, so what else we need in Philly?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

In Philly. Hey, y' all better go try to get the King, man. Y' all go get the King. Bring him to Philly. I know, Ocho. I know, I know, I know.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Now, look, look, look, look. I know I'm all over the place, but, hell, somebody need to be on the phone with the King right now, boy. Cause there's a few teams.

[Uncle Joe]

I already told you, it's too late.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Look, he's instructed Rich, Paul, talk to all the other teams, see what they can offer, and we gonna make it.

[Uncle Joe]

Don't matter what they get.

[Tab Ramos]

Offer.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who gives me the best chance to win? Money is not any.

[Uncle Joe]

Money is always the issue. That ain't. That's a Crocker. You know what? The team that can offer the most money is right there, right down here in Miami. Ain't no need to talk to nobody else.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Just come on home, man, please. Hey, I. I wouldn't be surprised if he did sign with Philly. Okay, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Uncle Joe]

All.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Well, that's what he had him going when he first left. Remember? When you left Achille even for the second time.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, I thought you knew ball, Joe. You don't know ball.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Brian.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All the pressure is on Tatum. We're going to find out if Tatum can hold it down. Because I seen JB do it without Tatum and a roster at lost pieces.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Don't you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

There's an immense amount of pressure on jt. I meant.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, it is. It is. They gonna look for him to get back to MVP caliber. Jason Tatum. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The all NBA selection.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yep. You're absolutely right,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

man. I was up in tears last night about C.J. lost my mom quickly a year ago, and it brought back all the emotions. It was good to let it out. Y' all doing Lord's work and.

[Uncle Joe]

Woo.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Damn pig. ISO. Ocho. Little man getting knocked out. Yeah, man. I guess this young man lost his mom. He lost his mom a year ago. And then, you know, us talking about CJ and what he's going through. I see Steve Gleason Reached out to him and like, you know, bro, we family. You're not in this alone. And, you know, we talked about it, like, no matter what you think you're going through, somebody's got it worse. And so we. We sending our thoughts and prayers to CJ and his family. And I am so happy that he has someone in his life. I'm so happy that his wife is steadfast and right there by his side. That's love. That's love. Because everybody, you know, you people talk about love, and they right there with the Birkin bags in Florida and the private jets and all the first class flights, and we all over the place and we jet setting, all of a sudden, this

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

absolutely, absolutely love looks like.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So thank you again, bro. Ooh. And still king ISO. Big fan, fellas. Y' all are goats. What your fellas, death row meals start a main dessert.

[Uncle Joe]

I like that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right, Joe, you gonna go first. What's your appetizer? Last meal. This is the last meal you can eat. You get an appetizer, you get a main, and you get a dessert.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Man, hell, you telling me this is my last meal?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

This last one?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Joe, I ain't gonna give a damn about it if they're my last meal. For real. I mean, so I gotta come with a starter first.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, you get appetizer.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Appetizer, man, throw me some. Give me some old calamari on there. I take a little calorie. Crispy calamari.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, nice crispy calamari. I thought you gonna get the potato skins, but you want the calamari. Okay.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Potatoes, them taste is good now. Tastes good. Tastes good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I got main course.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yep, you got a main course now, man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Give me that porterhouse. Medium, medium, well. I'm talking about just right. I'm talking about that thing.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Get the ribeye. There's more flavorful. Joe, you need to get on the ribeye.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

The ribeye.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The ribeye has more flavor. It's a lot more marbling. It's a little bit more flavor. Get that thing medium. Oh, you like it medium? Well, because I get it. I. I want it medium, hot, pink center. Keep a little flavor. Yeah, but that. But the marbling in the marbling in the ribeye, that's where the flavor is.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Next time you go, stay away from the porterhouse. Get you the ribeye.

[Tab Ramos]

All right?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Probably 16 ounces. Chef's kiss.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Okay. Okay. So dessert.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What you get for dessert?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Dessert, man, don't throw your boy some of that. I want some key lime pie. I'm a key lime pie guy.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I like key lime, too. Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, man, give me some. Well, that a key line. Be jumping, boy. Yeah, yeah, give me some key line.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right, Ocho, what you start with?

[Uncle Joe]

Y' all know what I'm eating. I mean, for me, it's really easy. My app, my appetizer, you know? Hey, I really ain't gonna have no appetizer. I'm trying to get to the main course.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

What's the main course?

[Uncle Joe]

Right, Here we go. I need baked, the fried chicken, half a chicken, dark meat. I need my leg and my thigh, right? You could do me that, or I can get five wings, then massage. I need collard greens, macaroni cheese. I need candy, yams. You hear me? All right. My dessert, my dessert. I need yellow cake with chocolate icing.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Preferably better crop, better Crocker. You know, you can get that. Get that cake mix right there in publix, huh?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So and for me, I need a. A check soda. Either peach, either peach, check soda or grape.

[Tab Ramos]

And.

[Uncle Joe]

And that's good as far as appetizers go. I'm not one really to really to have appetizers, but matter of fact, throw some sweet water cornbread on that, too. Throw some sweet water cornbread on that, too.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All that hell you eat, you go down, they ain't gonna be able to do that with you.

[Uncle Joe]

That's a full course meal for me when I go to the soul food spot out here. Right here in Miami.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, you gonna make a mess of yourself. What you got?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't usually get. I don't really get appetizers that much.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Damn, y' all don't get no salad or nothing?

[Uncle Joe]

Salad, but only a salad.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

We do.

[Uncle Joe]

We just toss salads, boy. We don't eat them.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, no, no, no, no. You speak for yourself. Ain't nobody doing all that.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hell no.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

The hell you say. What the hell, man? You speak for yourself. Listen, we do.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Listen, look, look, I understand you like to toss salad and all that. If that's what you do, it don't make you no bad brother. You still all right with me. But listen, where your fiber is going to come in there, you need some good fiber.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Where your fiber don't worry about it. When they. Hey, when they put that needle in your. All the muscle relax, it's going to come out anyway. So don't worry about no fiber. That's the last thing on your mind. I try to think, Joe, What I normally get for appetizers, I don't really get no appetizers. I mean, look, normally, Joe, I'll get a salad if it's like, they have, like, season. Like, if they got strawberries on top or they got a peach or something like that. I'll do a salad like that with some candy pecans or something like that. So you know what? It's my last meal. I do that. I want a. A. But, yeah, that's for Houston. You know what? I want a salad, okay? I want a spinach.

[Uncle Joe]

What kind of salad you talking about?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

With either strawberries and peaches and candied and, you know, I want. I want a salad from Chop. So I want the candied pecans.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know that one at Chops, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Thing be jumping, boy.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get the. The ribeye.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Cook medium. I'm gonna get the sweet. I'm gonna get the mashed potatoes, French fries, and cream corn.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

My dessert. I'm gonna see if they'll slip mom in the sale one.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey. I like that.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I like that.

[Uncle Joe]

I like that. I like that. That's a good one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Then one last time.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

One last time. You know, Joker said if you gotta go, go with a smile.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, yeah. They stick that need in y'.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Y' all gonna make a mess of y'. Allself. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, but I say I ain't even hungry.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe. We. We. We ain't gonna feel it, Joe. We ain't gonna feel it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Should LeBron sign with Houston and laugh?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, man, come on, man. What's up with y', all, man?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Well, they got a nice roster, though, if you add them to it.

[Uncle Joe]

Everybody got a nice roster if you add LeBron to it, man. But I told y' all, where you going. I wish y' all stopped coming up with all these accusations. The other team, man, this ain't 2K. This real life.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Take your emotions and your feelings out of.

[Uncle Joe]

This is your fault. Y' all got me watching and studying and analyzing basketball. So now. I mean, I'm invested. So now I'm telling people in the chat, y' all gonna piss me off. I don't want to hear nothing about the other team LeBron going to. And it looked good. And I'm telling you, where he going now? The next person say something, I'm telling you, boy, it's gonna be hell.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

He going somewhere.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I heard that. I heard they changed the Lakers name to the LA Quakers.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, man, come on, bro. Come on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You can bank on the NBA scheduling. Lakers vs. LeBron, new team and Boston vs. Philly to kick off the NBA 2027 season.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, for sure.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't know if it's that, but you might get them. You definitely going to get one of them on Christmas. That Christmas Day game. Yo, Joe, Philly played Boston.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. On Chris.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

That's. Yeah, that's going to happen for sure. And Lakers gonna play with whoever LeBron. Wherever LeBron go to. They gonna play them on Christmas.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yep. Ocho, preacher truth. Mr. ISO is a hangout dude. He chill. Ocho is a meat. Cause he funny and real. Unc is the best storyteller in the game. Best show on YouTube. Appreciate that, man.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Thank you, bro. Appreciate it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So it was LeBron's decision to break the 2020 championship team and AD play in center. UNC be cappy. No, that's.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, Lord.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right. So Ocho, y' all have got to see this black western movie called the Heart of They Fall. Star studded black cast mages. Aegis Elba, regina king, Etc. 10 to 10. I'm gonna check that out. I heard about that. I think this is the first one that Jonathan Majors.

[Uncle Joe]

Wait, what's the name of it?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Oh, the Harder They Fall.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, baby, I know you're watching. Put that on. What's on Netflix.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Don't start me to lie, baby.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. Put that on. Put that on. I know you watching. Put that. The Harder They Fall. Put that on there so I can watch that thing. As soon as we get off, twin,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

you gotta start Domination. Abomination. He gonna go and have to smoke for you if he catches you in these streets. You pick going hard on the pain.

[Uncle Joe]

Matter of fact, I see. I seen. I seen. I seen Aiden when I went to Area 29 right before my flight. Yeah, he was in there. Well, hey, hey, boy. He had them. Hey, boy. What? He had about 20 of them with him. Boy.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Man, he thought. Don't be lying on the man like that, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, what they he, boy?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey. Oo talk. ISO talking about Jalen Brown and Paul George are even traded. Ultra really took this man's ball knowledge.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I appreciate that.

[Uncle Joe]

Twin. Don't nobody know NBA like I know NBA. What?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm not saying from a talent perspective. I'm just saying from Boston. They wanted to get off J.B. hill. They wasn't gonna pay him no damn way. You know what I mean? Then you bring over pg. You know how many years he got left on his contract.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Probably three.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Three years left. And I think three.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No, he played. This is the second year. So he got two. I think he got two years left on this deal.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

So because he signed the four year like 212 Joe and I.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

And I know a lot of people say it's a bad contract, but I think Boston it is. Would much rather deal with that than have to pay JB again. Hell, really making. What are you making a year now? What JB making right now?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

50 something.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hell, you think he gonna be looking to go under that?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He signed a five for 306. He's eligible for a. A two year extension for 142. 143.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah. So they weren't willing to do it. Move on.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You guys could replace any co star in history on any team and still win a championship with who could you replace?

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You talking about Currently you just talking about if you could.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

If you guys could replace any costar in history history on any team and still win a championship, which could you replace? Oh, goodness.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, you know what? Hey, that Philly team. That Philly team with to. I forgot who the co star was. Whether was it Todd Pinkson or Freddie Mitchell? Which one?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, you.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know who the main man was. I know Tio was the main man, but.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Well, you have Todd Pinkston and just

[Uncle Joe]

take Todd Pink's not and put me in to there with McNabb. Yeah, we getting that ring. New England ain't winning that game.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I saw Ocho with the bull signing Norman Powell. What do you think he can do for the team? And if the C's don't win 50, it's going to be scary.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I think. I think Norman Powell gonna be a great pickup for the Bulls. Veteran presence, obviously. He led Miami in scoring last year. He was an all star last year. He got a bunch of young guys in that locker room in Chicago that. I think Norman Powell lead the right way, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, but they're gonna be terrible, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You think they're gonna be terrible?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, they ain't winning nothing.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

They might. They may be. They may be. When you say terrible. They may be playing bound.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't think they play inbound.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

You don't think so?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I think Chicago could be playing, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

I think he. I think he gonna help though. I think he's gonna.

[Uncle Joe]

They gonna play in the park. That's about it.

[Chad Ochociko (Ocho)]

All right,

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

we go to find out. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode as you watch the US advance to the round of 16 as they beat Bosnia Herzogenia by the score of 2 0. Uh, the good news, we won. We're going to the round of 16. 16. The bad news, Florian Belligon is suspended thanks to a red card that he received in the second half. So he missed the last part of this game and that means he's automatically suspended for the next game. Come on. USA beat Belgium and we're to the round of eight. And after that, anything can happen. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc, my partner and co host. That's the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ochociko Johnson and the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, the University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Because of you sick Nightcap has become the success success that has become. Thank you for your support. Again, those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Here's a premium bsop. Best tasting VSOP on the market. Drinks like an exo without the price. Please please drink responsibly and stay safe again. US beats Bosnia 2 oh England defeats the Democratic Republic of the Congo 21 Congo was up 10 but Harry Kane was just too too much. Thank you guys again for joining us. I'm Unk. He's Ocho, he's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow night.

[Uncle Joe]

Happy Birthday baby.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Happy Birthday Sam.

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

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