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Chad Ochocinco
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Joe Johnson
Goodbye.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe Burrow said the vibe on this year's Bengals team are similar to the ones that held the 2019 LSU team, where he led college football to the playoff championship. You go back and watch what I said before the 2019 season at LSU. I feel very similar about this team. I'm so excited to get started and get moving. I, I wish we ramped this up right now into training camp so we can continue to improve. I've tried to be a little more vocal, and I mean, I mean, in a, In a mean way. I think that's a little, A little out of my comfort zone, but that's somewhat. Somewhere what I'm improving. Maybe it's good, maybe it's bad, but we'll find out. Oo.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
How do you feel about your Bengals being compared to the 2019 LSU Tigers from Burrow?
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, listen, only Joe would know he was a quarterback on that team. So obviously, the vibe, the aura, the atmosphere is, is, is, Is reminiscent of that time, you know, with him at lsu, with Justin Jefferson and Jamar chasing those boys. And obviously, I don't think he means it from a defensive offensive standpoint. I think it means it collectively as a team, you know, with some moves that they made in the off season. I'm, I'm assuming the vibe is a little different around there at OTAs and Minicamp. So I, I kind of trust them being that he would be the one to actually know that. And, and, you know, I don't, I don't want to get too excited. You know, I know we have some great players offensively and defensively, but again, on Sundays at 1 o', clock, can we execute not just on offense, but can we do it on defense as well?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, look, I like the Bengals, man. I, I, you know, I, I get Ocho problem here and there, but for the most part, I like y' all Ocho. I think for me, it's the defensive side of the ball. And obviously Joe Burrow staying healthy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
Joe Johnson
Clearly, you know, if he stays healthy, I think y' all got a great chance, obviously, to do something special. So, you know, for him to feel the way he's feeling, saying it feels like that 2019 team in LSU, bro, that's saying a lot that's saying a lot.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what, guys? I think the thing is, he says he's been. He's been me more. He's been meaner. And maybe that's good, maybe it's bad.
Joe Johnson
And he did.
Chad Ochocinco
He's done this on purpose. I think that's the biggest thing. I think, you know, sometimes you're like, man, I don't need to get them. But I can honestly say, John, hey, things didn't go, hey, I want to run it again. Yeah, no, we're not. No, no, no, no, no, no. Now, Mike was also like that. But we had a level of expectation because we was having a conversation. Rod and I foots about. We go to practice and the ball
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wouldn't hit the ground.
Chad Ochocinco
We know we're gonna be ready that week. But that was the expectation level. No mistakes. Hey, mistakes drove me crazy. Even my own mistakes drove me crazy, because I know better. But hey, I'm trying to jump the gun, Ocho, you know, hey, that. That. That's napkin. I'm gone. I'm gone out of there. I'm gone. I'm gone. But we held everybody accountable. Stop bull jiving. That'll get a bro. You can't cover that dude. That dude on the practice squad. That guy ain't gonna see the field, right. What you think that. What you think they receiver gonna do? Yes. Guys, you can't get open against this guy. This guy ain't gonna play on. This guy gonna be in the stands.
Joe Johnson
Right,
Chad Ochocinco
bro? Get it right, bro. You hot. How many times? See, now, instead of running to the phone, get your ass in that playbook.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Get your ass in that playbook. Hey, training camp, Joe. If they came by training camp. Cause you know we had Club Shay Shay. If you busted a play, you couldn't come to Club Shay Shay, get your ass up there and study your plays. Cause when my ass might go end up shutting our club down because your punk ass in here is you ain't study your damn place. Get your ass out of here.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. You said when you was playing, you had Club Shay. What? What was going on in Club Shay then?
Chad Ochocinco
They playing Madden. We rolling dice, we playing cards.
Joe Johnson
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
I can say it now. I ain't gonna say who it was. They smoking cigarettes. Might have been our quarterback, but I ain't none of my business. Yeah. Hey, hey, that's a good thing.
Joe Johnson
Hey, look, that's a good thing for the Bangles, man. Joe. Joe. Asserting himself, you know, putting himself in uncomfortable situations, obviously, you know that's what growth occurs. So.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, also, hey, listen to me now. Speaking of. Speaking of growth, speaking of him changing his mannerisms and. And him being a captain and a leader. This is. This is almost like a. We got to have it this season. Yes, you may. You made that statement, that cryptic statement, and we all knew what it meant because you see that. You see the Bengals in that organization moving completely different than they've ever moved before, doing some of the things that they're not characteristic. Characteristic of doing in the off season. We're going to get you some defensive players. That's up to you. Do what you need to do offensively, stay healthy, and let's string some wins together and make it to the playoffs this year, which I think we missed. What, the past, what, two, three years?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, last couple of years. And I think the thing is. I think the thing is for him is that it's okay to get on your defense. Come on, guys, let's be better. Let's be better. I mean, you going against us, you're going against us. I'm one of the better quarterbacks. We got one of the better receiving duos. Come on now. You have to be okay not being everybody's friend, especially when it comes to practicing and trying to get better. I'll be your friend. We'll come back and reminisce. Ocho. We get a championship, Joe, and we come back and reminisce, talk about how we won this championship. We'll be friends again. And if you choose not to come back, that's okay, too, because we get that a lot. There are a lot of guys that don't come back when they. We have the. The reunion and stuff. Guys don't come back. That's okay. You grown. Never lose sight of why we're here, fellas. I'm here to win. And I want to win more than anything. I want to win more than be your damn friend. I can guarantee you that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Joe Johnson
Hello. Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
And you know, you. We build a bond. You know, we did things like I said, Club Shay Shay, you know, guys come play. But if you blowing flowers, what you in there for? Getting your damn playbook right. And it comes first thing you didn't want your place. Mike gonna ask where were you last night, man? I was. I was in club. No, you wasn't. No, he wasn't in Club Shake Shay. Mike, he alive. You're not gonna have him shut down the Club Shay Shay. Cause you in there, you supposed to be studying your damn play because you want to Play mad. You want to roll dice, you want to play cards, you want to drink beer? Cause, you know, we'd have, you know, company come in, they stack. We have beer stacked up to the ceiling.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, we had that thing with no club. Shay Shay was like that. We said, yeah, we playing music. We had it going on.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. You drink?
Chad Ochocinco
No, I did. You drink? But the guys did, so I just had it for them. Yeah, yeah. Hey. Hey, man. Hey, let me get. Hey, come on in, bro. Come on. Yeah, have a good old time. It was noisy. Nobody wanted to be on the eighth floor because we was on the eighth
ISO Joe Johnson
floor making all type of noise.
Chad Ochocinco
And we praying pranks on everybody, man. I. I brag about six or seven tubes of toothpaste. Cause in the morning, I'm gonna wake up in the morning and I'm gonna put toothpaste on somebody door. So when they walk out, just pull the door. Cause you know, ain't nobody looking. They just close the door. Come on, Sharp. I'm laying in the bed, man. I ain't nobody do that with Sharp, man. I'll be like. So I go. By the time I get to the cafeteria shop, I. Man, you need to stop playing. I said, what are you talking about? I just woke up. Nah, man, ain't nobody did that. But you stopped playing or we'll put rubbing alcohol and set it on fire. Hey, come out. Nah, man. Sean, leave us alone or we'll penny lock you in the room. You ever penny lock somebody in the room, Joe Ocho?
ISO Joe Johnson
Penny lock what that means?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you take pennies? You know, it's just. It's just enough so you put pennies in the door so they can't open it. Either way, they can't pull it over or push it open.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, I. I ain't never seen that.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't either, man. I kept. I can't. We kept people penny locked in the room, or we'll knock your peephole out. Hey, come on, man. I want to talk to you about something. Nah, Shop, you play too much. Five things all in your room.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, that's messed up.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man, come on.
Chad Ochocinco
The last night, man, we did, the last time we was up in Greeley, this was a 2002. I'm sorry, Harpo, I got to give you up. I said, harpo, I need a master key. You know, everybody called me Sharpie. Sharpie. What you need it for? I said sharp. I said, Harpo, we got to get the rookies, man. They've been misbehaving. He Say after we do room check, come down and get it. So now me burns, about five of us. We don't went. We don't went. I think it was King Supers or something. But we don't got. We take all the trash cans.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
We fill it up with syrup, water and flour. And we cut up the pillars and dump the feathers in there.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, about what, 1 o', clock, 1:30 in the morning? Joker sleep.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I know. Hey, I know they were. I know.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. But they sound asleep. Ocho Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know they were mad.
Chad Ochocinco
What were they?
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. Cause as a rookie, man, you gonna get gagged anyway.
ISO Joe Johnson
No matter what you do.
Joe Johnson
It don't matter if you're doing everything right or if you're doing everything. They gonna get you, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
In Baltimore, we just tied. We tied them up. We tie them up to the goal post, dump water on them, put them in the cold tub. Yeah, but Endeavor. Oh, yeah, we got them. Man, we messed up so many. We messed up people, computers. I'm sorry, guys. I am so sorry that we messed up your computer, man.
Joe Johnson
When they go to pop.
Chad Ochocinco
But we did about 45 and all the.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Ochocinco
All that because we go get five. Steven shop, everybody float. We empty those. That thing. That thing like a winter wonderland. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. They go get your keys out your locker while you in practice and they popcorn your car, okay. Oo, man, you know how hard it is getting all this stuff out your car, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
That's funny, Joe. We steal somebody car and drive it about a mile away, leave it running, doors open, lights on.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
By the time practice over with that thing dead.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I got.
ISO Joe Johnson
I got off easy as a rookie. The most they did to me, tied me to the goal post, left me out there, pulled all the Gatorade out, the practice, Gatorade on top of me, the water on top of me. That was pretty much it. And my rookie dinner. My rookie dinner. I had to pay where I had to pay for the receivers. I got off easy.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. And we gonna make you late. You got to be late. You got to be elite for one practice. Cause we gonna nail your locker shut. Nail it shut, man. Come on, man. Who did this, man?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Showed him some fun.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, put them in your helmet.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
baby powder. And you be sweating that thing like, man, what the.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, y' all play.
Advertiser/Announcer
Come on.
Chad Ochocinco
I said, bro, I don't know why everybody blame it on me. Like I'm the only guy on the team, man. Ain't nobody but sharp. It had to Be sharper, Burns. I bet you, man. Come on, bro. Y' all need to stop blaming me for stuff that I did. I mean, I didn't do.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. I try. I try to do everything right, Uncle Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
What you need?
Joe Johnson
Coffee.
Chad Ochocinco
What you need?
Joe Johnson
Prophylactic. What you need? Newspaper. I'm bringing it all. I'm making sure I ain't missing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Got you, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Cause it was two. It was three of us as rookies. So, you know, like, if one of us ain't doing what they asked here, we all gotta pay. Man, we came outside one day, bought them cars, was full of popcorn. I'm talking about. Soon, you open the door, it comes flushing. Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I got unlucky too, Ocho, because I was the only rookie and they didn't want to do anything. So I got. I had a limbo. I got limo, had the thing, and ain't nobody show up. I was like, thank you, Jesus. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Jesus. But Clinton Porters. Oh, we got porters. Clinton Porters. Clinton Porter's. Ashland Lee.
ISO Joe Johnson
Y' all got C.P.
Chad Ochocinco
did we.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know he was mad.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, he was a good sport about it.
ISO Joe Johnson
He was cool. Okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Good about it.
Joe Johnson
I mean, it ain't.
Chad Ochocinco
Cause, I mean, it costs about like 22,5.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's only about.
Chad Ochocinco
That's it. 22 5? 2,000. 22,500.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, y'. All. Y' all would have had to see me, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, the thing is, look, I say, look, guys, this is what we're gonna do. We not taking anything home. Cause you know, cuz guys have started.
Joe Johnson
They order.
Chad Ochocinco
They order steaks. $150 steaks. Take home my in laws coming in town. No, your in laws ain't going to eat none of this, man. Them Joe was about buy a $3,000 bottle of wine to take home. Now, if you want to drink some, Rob Childish from protrus. Or if you want a shot of that King Lou. Hey, what's the most expensive, cuz back then that King Louie. That's all we knew. Yeah, it was like $100. $125 a shot.
ISO Joe Johnson
What? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on.
Joe Johnson
One.
ISO Joe Johnson
Come on. You said that like you said that too casual.
Chad Ochocinco
$125.
ISO Joe Johnson
For what?
Chad Ochocinco
A shot an ounce, maybe two ounces. About this much.
ISO Joe Johnson
Come on now, Come on now.
Chad Ochocinco
They just let me get 15 of those.
ISO Joe Johnson
15?
Chad Ochocinco
15?
ISO Joe Johnson
Who gonna pay for it?
Chad Ochocinco
The rookie, Portis and Lily.
ISO Joe Johnson
What?
Joe Johnson
Damn, that's cold.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you gonna pay for it?
Joe Johnson
My car would have declined. Here, it Wouldn't even. Mine wouldn't even.
ISO Joe Johnson
It would have went through, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hell, no. $22,000 when I was a rookie, on my car.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you're a first round page. Yo, you got it.
Joe Johnson
I ain't saying, oh, yeah, you got it. But I got. I had. I had a limit on my card and 22 grand. It wasn't gonna go through.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't worry about it. What would have went through if you paid for it? Guess what? We got it. We take out your check.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Ojo, Ojo. Mine had about like a seven to $8,000 limit. That was if y' all went over that and one.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And you had to get me a limo. I had to get a car by myself. I couldn't ride with nobody because I was gonna leave and when I was ready to leave. So you got to get a limo just for me.
ISO Joe Johnson
You made the price go up even more.
Chad Ochocinco
For sure.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But, you know, sometimes we had rookies. They wasn't no high draft picks. You know, I went. I help them out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
But if you were the first round draft pick, are you on the skill position running back or wide receiver?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you got it.
Chad Ochocinco
You get all that.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know what's funny too, is that, you know, it's tradition. All NFL teams, obviously rookies, based on position, you all have rookie night. Obviously, the dinners. When I was a veteran, I never did it. I never made the rookie have to do anything. You ain't do I. I ain't making the boy do nothing. I had to deal with it. I was. I was kind of cool about it. I wasn't with the haze. And you ain't got to carry my pad. You ain't got to carry my helmet. I was cool. I was just chilling, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I dropped my stuff right down the floor. Hey, Real, drop them pads right down there.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, bro, let me get some. Hey, give me some Gatorade.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That's the whole part about it. So hopefully you be inspired to make the team. So you guess what? You get your rookie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
ISO Joe Johnson
I was kind of cool about it.
Chad Ochocinco
I had to get chicken, and I ain't want no chicken.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, that's right. I had to do Popeyes, huh? Yeah, the receivers had to do Popeyes on game day as a rookie, Joe. I wasn't dressing. I still had to get Popeyes.
Joe Johnson
Listen, man, I had to get. I had to get coffee, donuts and a newspaper.
Chad Ochocinco
These folks ain't even looking at Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Now, this is very important. Now, when you go get donuts, we Talk about Dunkin Donuts. We talk about Krispy Kreme.
Joe Johnson
I was getting Dunkin Donuts at the time.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, they had this place, I think it's called Winchels. And they talk about.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know about winches. I know about.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I think that was the name of it. Oh, and Joe, they talking about they want them hot. And they wanted six glaze, and they wanted. With jelly donuts. And they want. I said, come on, man.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. And they want breakfast sandwich. They got this spot. They got breakfast sandwich. I want bacon, egg and cheese. I want sausage, egg and cheese. Well, I won't. I want mine on the console.
Joe Johnson
You be late for that plane. You want to.
Chad Ochocinco
Please, man. I wanted. I wanted to fight these dudes for real. And I know they couldn't beat me. I want to fight the N word for real.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
And then I just.
Joe Johnson
Like.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what? I already lied, Joe. About, like, week eight or week nine.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I just told her, I said, I ain't bringing no more donuts.
ISO Joe Johnson
You said that?
Chad Ochocinco
I said, I ain't bringing no more donuts. They said, all right. You know what's gonna happen? I said, okay. Everybody's knowing y'. All. Cause they gonna cut me. I'm gonna whip everybody. I said, I'm gonna whip every last one of y'. All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Did you bring them?
Chad Ochocinco
No, I was done. They weren't even eating them. Hey, okay, first of all, I was seventh round draft pick, Ocho. I ain't got no bread like that.
Narrator/Commercial Voice
I'm.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm buying all this stuff. And. And when I leave, you know, I sit them in. In the guy's locker, and they still. I mean, somebody might eat one donut. Somebody might eat, you know, one breakfast sandwich or two breakfast sandwiches. I done bought 7. 8.
Joe Johnson
Nah, they didn't want you to put the work in. They just want you. Hey, they just want you.
Chad Ochocinco
They just want to put your ass to work. I'm having to get up early.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, they wasting your money, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
I said, okay.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. Not only that, you gotta leave practice early. On days we finna fly. Yes, you gotta leave practice early. Cause you gotta go get all these sandwiches.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you, Joe. Thank you.
Joe Johnson
Subways. Boy, you gonna be late. We calling you. You ain't got about 10 minutes. Boy, you pulling up sweating like I don't know what.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, somebody want Popeyes. Somebody want Kentucky Fried Chicken. Somebody want Burger King. I mean, why can't just go get
ISO Joe Johnson
Popeyes and everybody get everything?
Chad Ochocinco
I want spicy. I want mild, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm done that's crazy.
Joe Johnson
As I happened.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
So that was the end of that. I did. I did it for as long as I could. Once I kept doing it. If they were eating the sandwiches, I kept buying them, no problem. But nah, y' all not eating them. And then, you know, the D line eating them and the offensive lineman eating them now.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah. Right?
Chad Ochocinco
I say, hey, well, I guess that's ass cut I'm going have to take. But I tell you what.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Two of y' all gonna get effed up. I promise you that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Did they complain what they gonna do? I told them I. Whatever y' all want to do, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, damn.
Chad Ochocinco
They gave they g. You know, they.
Joe Johnson
They.
Chad Ochocinco
They. They gave me the name Big Greasy for a reason.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Big reason.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Narrator/Commercial Voice
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
I would. I would have had to jump on you, boy. I would have had to jump on you, boy, like, hey, like a chicken.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I got. I got into it one time.
ISO Joe Johnson
For real.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, me and CK because I was a rookie, because they. When they moved. When they moved me to tight end, obviously I had to go into the tight end room, right? CK was a vet. CK said behind me. And every day, you know, I. I don't want to cause no trouble. My grandma say, boy, I don't see you nowhere. Know how. You know how to behave. You know how to act.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
CK kept knocking my. Knocking my. So I have all my thing out. So I'm trying to take notes. So I have my notebook out, man. Where y' all like to make me say this ninja would like, kick the book and all my papers fired. So, you know, I got to rearrange them, right? And so I thought, okay, it's a rookie. I'm a rookie. Okay, I'm gonna eat this couple of times. You know, one of them days, guys, you just don't even feel like being bothered.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Snap, bump.
Chad Ochocinco
You catch. You catch. You catch the right guy, but it just happened to be the wrong day.
Joe Johnson
Yep. Man,
Chad Ochocinco
that Joe kicked that. He kicked that thing over one more time that last time, boy, I jump out that seat. Death flipped over. By that time, I had. I was all. I was right here. I had. I got him out of his seat. I said, ck, you do that one more time, bro, I'm gonna beat your ass, and you gonna beat me. And I don't think you can beat me. Yeah, I don't think you can beat me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who broke it up?
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't have nothing. Nobody. They were just looking like, well, damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
I bet. I bet he Said I'm just playing.
Chad Ochocinco
I bet he ain't do it no more. Cause at that time, my eyes. When I get really, really upset. Yeah, my eyes get really red and they start to water. I had a young lady that used to call me beast. Because when I get really upset, she's like, man, look at your nostrils. So she called, man. I was. Boy, look here. Had I been a. Well, he wouldn't have done that if I was a vet, right? But he thought, like. And see, I don't. I don't like all that picking. That's what they call. We call it either side. We call it picking.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, they call it now trying to bully.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't do all that picking and grow. And grown men don't play like that. I had to tell the man, stop that, man. I was. I was thinking, you know, the. The coach, the tight end code was gonna say something, but he didn't. That was it. And then I slapped the dude one time because he was playing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Advertiser/Announcer
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
You slapping people at work?
Chad Ochocinco
Look here, man. Would a man tell you to stop playing? What you do, Joe?
Joe Johnson
Stop playing.
Chad Ochocinco
Hell, it was cold. And he knocked the ball out of my head. I'm talking about.
Joe Johnson
It was cold.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm talking about bundled up. I got two sweatsuit. Two pair of sweatpants on. I'm talking about. It's cold out there. Come on, man. So he knocked the ball out my hand. I said, man, stop playing. So catch me a pass. I come back, he hit the ball, and the ball hit me in the face. And before. And before I had. Knew it.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
Wow.
Chad Ochocinco
I had them punched him dead in his face.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, a little slight reaction.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I'm talking about that thing was. I'm talking about. I snapped one. He said, man, you for real? They said, that man just punched the. At you. What you think? I went on about my business? That was the end of that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Betty ain't do it no more.
Chad Ochocinco
Nope. I mean, we ain't speak for a couple of days, but we were cool after that. I don't do all. Look, we had a group that we used to play jokes on each other. Me, Burns, house, double A. Dude named Alan Aldridge, rest his soul. He passed away. It was about four of us and foots. So we would play jokes on each other. Couldn't do it in the cafeteria. But if you. If we saw you somewhere outside like,
Joe Johnson
man,
Chad Ochocinco
joker be eating in his locker, and you come knock all this food out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, okay. We did that in high school. We did it in high school.
Chad Ochocinco
So check this out. Joe, check this out. Joe and Ocho, this dude, I get my food and Ray Jacobs, that's who it was. Ray Jacobs. So every day I would come with pancakes. I come with pancakes from Lupit. I get wheat germ pancakes, banana sliced on top. That's it. That's what I would get. I would park in the same spot every day. How about dude laying up under his car, huh? He laying up on this. I ain't thinking nothing about it, man. I got my. Got my pancakes, got my orange juice. I'm just a. Oh, I'm gonna tear this up. How dude roll up on his car and just kick my bag right up out my hand.
Joe Johnson
Oh, pancakes go everywhere.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he laid on the ground under his truck like Cape Fear. You see the movie Cape Fear with Robert De Niro?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, Justin.
Chad Ochocinco
That's how old boy did me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, you know, back in high school, when we play that and you got something in your hand, they slap it out your hand real quick and it hit the floor, but it hit the float. Oh, Joe. So you can't eat it no more? Yeah, I play three second rule, boy. I'm it. I Three second rule. I'm picking it up. I mean, I'm eating mine.
Chad Ochocinco
You couldn't eat that. Cause we hit on the floor and just step on it. Okay, you ain't eating that. O Joe. That's exactly what guys would do. Tell me. Oh, three second rule.
ISO Joe Johnson
Let's go. Three second rule. Yeah, Joe. Y' all ain't play that three second rule, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Nah, nah, nah.
Chad Ochocinco
We.
Joe Johnson
Hey, we, we, we. We played games. Like if you had something in your hand and I liked it and I knocked it out, then it was okay. Okay, okay. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
We be in training camp. Oo. I go around and un. Screw the top off and just barely put it back on. All the salt and pepper shakers. So when they, like get some. All the pepper in the plate, all the salt on the food.
ISO Joe Johnson
Good days, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
I did, I did. That was. Hey, that was, that was, that was, that was. That was all the stuff that I wanted to do at. Like, I said I couldn't wait. They got me, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, that's.
Chad Ochocinco
That's the thing. I gotta get my get back. Yeah, I hate it when. Because that was my. In 2003, my last year playing, we had training camp at the facility. That's when they had started, you know, bringing in. And we didn't go back to Greeley anymore, but to go to Greeley, to be in that dorm because we. We stayed At a UNC University of Northern Colorado up in Greeley, man. Oh, we stayed in some. We stayed in some mess.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, we. Oh, should have been mad. Oh, we got Ocho. Who we got you. You're a rookie.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, but I'm now you.
Advertiser/Announcer
Y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Y' all would have loved me. Y' all wouldn't mess with me.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, we would have your rookie year, and then we'd have got you like, oh, I'm getting me somebody back.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they. Hey, hey, they.
Chad Ochocinco
They.
Joe Johnson
They make something up to get you ojo. It don't matter if you're doing everything right. They gonna.
Chad Ochocinco
They gonna make something up.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's all good. It's all good.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Cause you. You only a rookie once, Ocho.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, you. You right. You're right.
Chad Ochocinco
And then guess what? You gonna be a vet longer than you're gonna be a rookie.
ISO Joe Johnson
Rookie. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So guess about all the rookies that come in after you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, see, I. I let all the rookies slide that came after me. I. I was. I was a good sport about it too, Uncle Joe. I was a good sport about it. I won triple. Listen, listen, I understand this tradition. I really ain't into that, so I'm going to accept it. I'm gonna pay what I need to pay. Hood before the games. I'm gonna get your popeyes if know I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't want no Popeyes. I want you to sing. Where you from? Put your hand over your heart. Where you from? Oregon State. What position you play? Wide receiver. How much was your signing bonus? 500.
Joe Johnson
Oh, hell no.
Chad Ochocinco
How you get $500,000?
Joe Johnson
Hey, the worst thing. The worst thing in the NBA was when they made you as rookies. They make all the rookies carry these little girl backpacks you had to wear. You had to carry like a pink backpack. Oo. Or it may have to be clear to where you can see everything and you be. Oh, man, it was bad. It may have. It might be a butterfly backpack.
Chad Ochocinco
Door to door.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Door to explore all that. Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Whole season. But that. That's going on. What we did has was passed down. They have been doing that for like 40, 50 years. Ocho Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
So we just want to keep. Keep the tradition going.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
All that they're cutting up. We ain't cutting no hair. I mean, so I see some people cut people here now. We ain't cutting nobody. I ain't cut nobody here now. Yeah, man, they begin to do bad. They cut half the. Half the Side of the hair off like this here. Rest aside. Just. Is there.
Joe Johnson
Ah. Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
They give you Mohawk. They do all. Oh, man, Joe. I said, oh, no, that. Y' all doing too much for that. That's too much. There was the days. I'm so. Man, you know what? Now that I think about it, y' all ain't getting no rookie initiation, Joe. You did, though, Joe. We ain't get y' all no rookie initiation, Joe. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
What are we gonna do to him?
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. We think of something.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm. Hey, I'm two years in now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you right, Joe. Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
But even if you took.
Joe Johnson
We didn't pass it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Not really. If. We still got to initiate you, though. You know what? I'm kind of mad, too, Unc.
Chad Ochocinco
What? That. For what?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm mad. He. He faking an injury, trying to duck me, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, he ducking you off.
Joe Johnson
He ain't got nothing.
ISO Joe Johnson
He ducking me. I'm thinking. I just. I just thought about that.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, hey. What. I ain't doing in the. Ain't got nothing to do with you.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I'm be.
Joe Johnson
I'm. I'm gonna be able to attend to you soon. Don't you even worry about that.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, don't worry about that.
ISO Joe Johnson
You think so?
Narrator/Commercial Voice
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That left leg. He said that left leg is only like 115, so he ain't gonna be able to push off it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, all right. All I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to his right because you got to push off that left.
Chad Ochocinco
That's right. That's right.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. You can't see. You can't see in that damn right eye. So that we even. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe.
Advertiser/Announcer
Hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. Don't talk about my eye, Joe. For real.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that thing a little murky, though. For real, though. Yeah, I know.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, can you see it? Can you see it?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's. That's why with Michelle, I'm Go get the cataract removed, man. I'm gonna do it, man.
Narrator/Commercial Voice
You.
Chad Ochocinco
You probably need to.
ISO Joe Johnson
I am. I am, man. I be. Man, I don't know, man. I be. I don't know, man.
Chad Ochocinco
You scared, huh?
Joe Johnson
Well, I don't want to have to. Yeah. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
I remember what it was like when. 1994, when I had that surgery and I had inflammation on the inside. My grandma thought it was pink eye. I don't know what it was, but I remember they put the. They took the Q tip.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
And it Take the Q tip on top of the eyeball.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
And you feel that needle go in. But you can't feel the pain because they haven't.
Chad Ochocinco
They numbed it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, that's the. Oh, that's the worst feeling, man. I just don't want to go through that no more, man.
Chad Ochocinco
That ain't what they do with a cataract. Now they actually lift it up and pull it out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ah, come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. They got to get that up out of there.
Joe Johnson
Go and get it done, bro. You gotta get right.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm doing. I'm do it, Joe. I'm gonna do it. I just. Oh, that just the eyeball, man. And what if I get that lazy eye again?
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Chad Ochocinco
Want the full story?
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
Take a listen. Hedi. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right? She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
Chad Ochocinco
Give us examples.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
I know they do get along intellectually, and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye. Protect your pet with insurance from pets Best plans start from less than a dollar a day. Visit petsbest.com Pet insurance products offered and administered by Pets Best Insurance Services, LLC or underwritten by American Pet Insurance Co. Or Independence American Insurance Co. For terms and conditions, visit www.petsbest.com. policy products are underwritten by American Pet Insurance Company, Independence American Insurance Co. Or Ms. Transverse Insurance Co. And administered by Pet Insurance Services, LLC. $1 day premium based on 2024 average new policyholder data for accident and illness plans, pets age 0 to 10.
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ISO Joe Johnson
No, my eye in high school, my eye was stuck like that. It was. It was just. It was off to the side like,
Chad Ochocinco
oh, you think that thing cockeyed, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I was like that. For real. I don't know how. Like, hey, Joe, you can see. You see how I'm looking at you right now?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
It wasn't like that when I was in high school, my eye was stuck. It was stuck to the right like Biggie Smalls. I don't know how it got to the point and I can't. I can't see I can't see nothing out the right eye. I just don't want that to happen. I go back in there, I go back under the knife, and then my eyes stop. I'm 50 years old and I'm cockeyed. What'd that look like?
Chad Ochocinco
We gonna start the show every night with a joke or two. Oh, don't think just cause you got a cockeyed 50 years old, we ain't gonna join you, boy. Please.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, come on, man. Y' all can't do me like that, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, we can. Yes, we will. Although Joe might not, but I will. Oh, hey.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no. Hey, hey. You know, I got to get mine in, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know what? I'm gonna wear a patch. Don't worry about it.
Chad Ochocinco
That's okay. We know what's under there.
Joe Johnson
You're gonna be like. Hey, you gonna be like Slick Rick the Ruler.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. That's why I'm nervous about getting it done. Because I just know after that surgery, my. I had a cockeye all through high school. Sophomore. I had to deal with it in college. And once I got to Santa Monica, for some reason, it started to straighten back up, but I still couldn't. I still couldn't see out of it.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, y' all remember that remember clump when Dave Chappelle Reggie, where they ask you, should I get him? Get him, get him? Should I get him? What would he do for a Klondike bar? Now we know who's eating. Gil was great. I bet you cut him. He bleed chunky, man. Ocho, I'm gonna get you. I'm telling you. Not going to get that surgery. So you can see.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, man. Y', all. Y'. All.
Chad Ochocinco
But I'm gonna get you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Y' all ain't gonna.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, the chat want me to. Chad, should I get him? Should we. Should Joe and I get him?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, I think the chat on my side, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Chad, what you think?
Joe Johnson
They said get him.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm a good dude, man. I'm a good dude to do me like that, man.
Joe Johnson
It don't matter that you no good dude, man. The chat want a good laugh.
Chad Ochocinco
They just say, get him.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, man. So, hey, one thing about it, I might be cockeyed, but I look good, though. That's it, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey. Huh, Joe?
Joe Johnson
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. I'm a 10 on the scale now. What we talking about?
Joe Johnson
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
All right.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. Hey, Joe. What the chat say, Joe? They get him?
Joe Johnson
Get him?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, get him. Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
The chat don't love me, man. Chat don't love me. They don't love me.
Advertiser/Announcer
Yeah, they do.
Chad Ochocinco
Me and Joe to get you. Get him. Sabrina Andescu hits the game winner. John quail Jones had 19 points as the Liberty beat the Sky 96.95. Sabrina Andescu hit the winning layup with about twin 10 seconds remaining. She subbed back on the floor with 15.6 seconds remaining, caught the ball, drove for the basket before finishing with her left hand to seal the Liberties eight straight win. She finished the night with 10 points. Stewie and Satu Sabali had 17 points. Rookie Sydney Taylor scored 24 points in the first career start, hitting 57% from downtown for the Sky. Olivia Miles is the only Rookie with more 20 point games this season. Gabriella Hawkez, also a rookie, added season high 22 points for the Sky. Look, I mean the, the. Liberty, I mean Sabrina Nesco, I think she had surgery this off season, so she's trying to work herself back in shape. But when you look at what they have, they got two bigs. They got Stewart and Jean Quail Jones. John Quail Jones has been an mvp. She was the finals MVP the last time they won it. Stewie has been a two time league MVP and a finals mvp. They got a loaded team. They're really, they're really good. And they got Sabali now.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they got, they got a nice squad.
Chad Ochocinco
They do. They got a big, they got a, they got a big team. You look at Jones, you look at Stewart, you look at Sabali, they got a, they got a really big team once and, and, and once school gets back in shape and get, they're gonna. Hey, but this guy's been on hard times. They've been, you know, they've been angel re. I've been angel re. I tried to tell y'. All, y' all talking about. I need to shut up. I'm trying to tell y'. All. They try to get me used to losing over there.
Joe Johnson
So you think it's, it's, it's infrastructure, it's the organization, Something ain't right. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Cause you look at Cardosa, she played 24 minutes, she only had four rebounds. Skylar Diggins, Scala digging said, you know, everybody talks about how competitive she is and she does not like to lose.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
You got to get used to it over there. Haz on that. That's the one who played Joe. Yeah, that's the Rick who plays in the ucla. Yeah. They had I think five or six girl young ladies going the first round. Natasha Cloud. They got, I mean, they got okay, but Something ain't. Something ain't adding up.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, damn.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, you got. Hawkins had 22, Taylor had 24, Diggins had 19, Cardoza had 10. Natasha, Cloud.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they gonna. They gonna have to figure that out, man. I see, Joe, they was mad at
Chad Ochocinco
you about what you said about Angel. Reese.
ISO Joe Johnson
What you said, Joe, what did it.
Joe Johnson
What about the accountability? Yeah, I mean, that's. That's. That's with anything, bro. You can't. If you can't take it, then don't dish it out.
Chad Ochocinco
So y'. All. So they joke, See, they just disregard how angel slapped the ball out of her hand.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
And the girl didn't point.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
And try to. And dry snitch.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But when she tried to do it to her, she go pointing. Yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you can like this.
Chad Ochocinco
And says, you know what, Angel? If you dish it, you got to be able to take it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Take it.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I don't know what you said was wrong, Joe. I really don't.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got on me about that, but it's okay. Hey, look, I like the dream, but I'm a realist, too, you know, when I'm watching something and I see it, I'm like, hold on. She had just did the same thing, the old girl. Now she trying to snitch on her. Like, come on, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
And y' all need to do us a favor. Anytime Joe or Ocho or myself say something that y' all don't like, stop talking about, we don't watch the game because that's y' all your Tory for that. And y' all know damn well Ocho and I was watching these games. Y' all know Joe and I was watching the basketball game. Every time we say something that y' all don't agree with. Oh, you didn't watch the game, Right? Well, how the hell I know what happened if I didn't watch the game? You watching the game. You don't know what the hell you're looking at. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. But stop that foolishness. Stop it. Yeah, you can disagree with what Ocho say. What I say, what Joe say, That's fine. Just because you disagreed, that doesn't mean we didn't watch the game.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
We just have a different of opinions on what happened. That's okay.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't think you're supposed to agree with everything I say. You're not supposed to agree with everything Joe says or Ocho says. You have a right to your opinion. I have a right to mine. Everybody on this panel has a right to their opinions. Okay, but y' all know, y' all quick. He watched the game.
Joe Johnson
Really?
Chad Ochocinco
Now, I ain't watched the spurs play. I ain't watched the Knicks play. I ain't watched nobody play. I ain't watched football. I don't even know football now.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Anytime. Well, you only watched it. Really? Really. You feel comfortable saying that? Yeah. At least Joe. Joe is going to dreams game.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you do clips. I'm telling you things that happen in the game that they don't show in the clips. So then what? What are you saying? I'm telling you that the coverage they ran, I'm telling you who should have blocked who did you know who was supposed to block who did you know they were mollying the three, four? Man, what's molly, man? Hey, the tackle kick out to the widest guy and the guard kick out to the next widest. And they lead. They lead the back on the middle guy that's coming. Oh, oh. I Ocho, now we tell you, he's in a wide nine, a cowboy front. He's in the seven. He's in a five. He's in the shade. He's in the cock. But we didn't watch the game. They played cover five, they played cover four. They played cover six. Kick. They played. Lord have mercy. Just you can say, you know what, Shannon, Ocho, Joe, I don't agree with y'. All.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
that's okay. That's cool. You don't agree. Okay. What don't you agree with? Because if I don't agree with something, I'm gonna tell you what I don't agree with.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't gonna say you didn't watch the game. But anyway, it's time to play a fave presented by prize picks. Okay, We're going back to the national championship game. LSU versus Iowa. The Dream versus the Fever. Aaliyah, Boston. More or less than eight and a half rebounds. More or less?
Joe Johnson
Hold on. Who? Oh, this? Indiana. Yeah. Indiana, Atlanta and Indiana and Atlanta.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ah,
Joe Johnson
I'mma probably say more.
Chad Ochocinco
What you got? Oo.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm going more.
Chad Ochocinco
I sure hope some rebounds left because angel gonna be getting a bunch of them. But she gonna have to do a great job of keeping angel off the board. So I'm gonna say I'll go. I'll go more. Angel Reese. More or less than 12 and a half rebounds. I think she's probably averaging about 13 a game.
Joe Johnson
The way that girl been eating that glass, I'm gonna say more. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
She all hustle.
Joe Johnson
She is, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
If she shot 50% from the floor, Angel Reese would be averaging 25 points a game, maybe 30 easy.
Joe Johnson
All her shots she missing are in the paint. Yeah, she take her time. She. Man, what. She just had 11 offense the other night. Come on.
Chad Ochocinco
Out of 17
Joe Johnson
the grain playing, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Caitlin Clark more or less than 8 assists.
ISO Joe Johnson
More. She got. She got good vision. I know she. I know she'll shoot him, but she could pass that ball, boy. Damn.
Joe Johnson
What's she. What's she averaging on the year?
Chad Ochocinco
She probably about seven, I think she had double digits the other night. I don't know what she. I don't know what she had tonight.
Joe Johnson
All right, I guess what we want more.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Caitlyn says. Hold on. She's six. She's averaging 8.3.
ISO Joe Johnson
Told you. Told you, Joe. Listen to me, Joe, when it comes to basketball, just follow my lead. Now. I ain't gonna steal you wrong.
Joe Johnson
Here we go.
Chad Ochocinco
You going more or less, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I'm going.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, there you go, Joe. Huh?
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
You.
ISO Joe Johnson
Are you learning? What you learning?
Chad Ochocinco
Jordan Canada, more or less than six and a half assists. She plays for the dream.
Joe Johnson
She had.
Chad Ochocinco
She got Ryan Howard, she got Alicia Gray. She got some guys that can get some buckets.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, she had what she had. She has seven.
Chad Ochocinco
She's averaging 7 cents a game.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say more. I'm gonna say more.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Joe, you going more too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Absolutely. I'm probably. I'm following, I'm following Joe. I mean, I shouldn't be following Joe because.
Joe Johnson
Come on, come on, come on, come on. You ain't all. You have my company. Don't do that backhand. Don't do all that.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm going with Joe. I'm going with Joe this time. My bad, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
He's ain't going with you this time, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I already know.
Chad Ochocinco
25 to win 125. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups. After you play your first five dollar lineup, prize picks a preferred partner of the NBA. All right, it's time for our final saving of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the super chat, we've got two video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.
Joe Johnson
What's up, nightcap fam?
Chad Ochocinco
I have two questions for you.
Joe Johnson
One, this goes for everybody.
Chad Ochocinco
Who in your careers or like what player or team?
Joe Johnson
When you guys got your schedule, did you look at and say. And circle and say. I don't care what Our record is.
Chad Ochocinco
I'll make sure y' all get this work.
Joe Johnson
A player or a team or both.
Chad Ochocinco
And then two for Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Ocho, if you weres playing in the
Chad Ochocinco
World cup right now, how would you
Joe Johnson
be able to talk trash to the players? And they speak a different language.
Chad Ochocinco
Like, would you learn a new language?
Joe Johnson
Or you just talk the way you've been talking in your career? Keep doing what you're doing, guys.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, for one, as a trash talker like myself, depending on who we're playing, I'm gonna know what word to say based on whatever language of the team, players that we're playing. So that. That'd be easy. And I like that he asked that, that. That first question, too. Yes, About. About. Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
You circle the schedule? Who you wanted?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe. I don't know, Joe. You was probably playing UNC. Remember, though, I think it was the 2005 season, Joe, I looked at the schedule. When the schedule came out, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
I had upstairs, I had them eliminate all the DB's names, the number one corner and the number two corner, all from, from week one, all the way to 16, 17, however many weeks it was. And at the top of it said, who covered Ocho in 2005? And all they had to do was stop me one time, Joe, you stopped me one time in a four quarter game. You get a check mark as you cover me. Yo, and I put it in my locker before the season started and let all them boys know ain't none of y' all finna be able to do nothing with me all season long. Yeah, you know how difficult that. You know how difficult that was every
Chad Ochocinco
week and you were not there?
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, Cut a effing fool, Joe. That's that 2005 season. Well, offensively, boy, we was. We might have been what, maybe offensively ranked number two or three, something like that, Man, Joe, I was out there going crazy, boy. But it was hard, though, because they were trying. They were trying to. They were trying to knock my head off.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. For me, 2005, 6, when I first got here to Atlanta, I. I had the Phoenix Suns marked on the damn calendar. But for, For. For low balling me. Let me get up out of there.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, hey, Sean. Marion Amari style, my Steve. Now, I was trying to get them boys at work every time I played against them. Yeah, we. We ain't win a whole hell of a lot of game playing against them, but I gave them boys hell, Hear me? Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Me, I looked at obviously everybody in that division. You got to get it to them, because you're gonna see them twice a year. Raiders. We had a Raider week, and then our number one rival was Raiders, then Kansas City, then probably the Chargers, then the Seahawks. But Raider week had to get them. That work. And me, Ocho in the World cup. This is how you look at somebody. You point to him, you. Everybody understand that?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They understand that.
Joe Johnson
That's universal.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Let's take a listen to our second one. ISO. Welcome to the Messi show. Three goals, hat trick, first game back to defend the title that he will win again. That I will rightfully predict. And, hey, Ocho, I'm sorry I can't invite you, bro. You say you're a Ronaldo guy on some real stuff. You know, it wasn't even Ronaldo's fault that he lost today. I feel like with that midfield, Joanne Vitinha, Bruno Fernandes, the best midfield in the World cup, they should be better. And I think it's all boils down to Martinez. He's not the manager for him. He messed up Belgium's golden era when they had Hazard, Kevin De Bruyne, Lukaku, you name it. Courtois on the goal. So I think these next couple games that Portugal is going to play, they are must win. Let me know what y' all think.
Joe Johnson
God bless.
ISO Joe Johnson
Obviously, they did.
Chad Ochocinco
Man is a big bigger fan of soccer as you.
Narrator/Commercial Voice
Yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, remember when I told you the first thing how bad the midfield played?
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's the midfield job to be able to create, you know, for others, obviously. I mean, they had the best midfield, I'd probably say, playing in the World cup, but they weren't able to do anything. Cristiano can only do so much. Obviously, they want him to score, but it's difficult, especially playing the nine. It's not like he's able to take people on 1v1. He's not on the wing like he used to be. No, he's at the nine. So the midfield played horrible. It the next next two games, they are must win because it can get ugly. Can you imagine Portugal not making out the group stage?
Chad Ochocinco
They're gonna fire that manager, man. Absolutely.
ISO Joe Johnson
And hold on, forget the manager. They gonna. You know who they're gonna blame everything on?
Chad Ochocinco
Ronaldo. Ronaldo, the best player always get to blame. Absolutely. They. They.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, he holding us back and all type of stuff.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Them country, man. I know with that Columbia, the guy that missed that kick, and they end up.
ISO Joe Johnson
They killed and killed him. Yeah. They don't play young. You don't understand what that World cup, the Goldie.
Chad Ochocinco
What was the. Because the guy that had the big bush here. Was that Valderrama?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's Valorama. It was the own goal. Yeah, he put. Yeah, he had an own goal. I think
Chad Ochocinco
at this point, Messi is the go and it's not even close. CR7 has disappeared in national play is at this point, Messi is the go and it's not even close. CRC has disappeared in national plate.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who said that?
Chad Ochocinco
The goat. 2022.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's. Yeah, that. That's rude. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Went to Houston for Portugal. The Dr. Congo for my birthday. The atmosphere was electric. Congo fans were outnumbered. But match the energy 10 to 1. Portugal fans get out and see them. See a match.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep, I'm going to Portugal. Colombia, down here in Miami.
Chad Ochocinco
But they'd be all. They, they be all over the place, man, they got these teams playing all over the place.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, boy, they got. Hey, hey, they didn't took over Atlanta.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, I could imagine. Who play. Who playing Atlanta tomorrow?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'll tell you right now. I got. I got the schedule. I got the schedule saved in my phone. Tomorrow we got Mercedes Benz Stadium. You got. Is that Czech Republic? Check. Is that Czech Republic? Yeah, Czechsia, Czech Sia and South Africa. That's who play. We got Canada. Canada play Qatar and Vancouver and Mexico play Korea and Guadalajara. Mexico.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Switzerland play tomorrow too, against Bosnia. I'm sure I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be on the plane do it.
Chad Ochocinco
Wait.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm gonna be on the plane for. I might be able to catch that 12 o' clock game.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Two questions. He said, do you think soccer players are fragile since their bodies. Bodies aren't callous like NFL players? Or do you or do they not eat enough McDonald's?
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, we get. I mean, NFL players get. Get hurt at a far more higher rate than they do.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
And they're in the soccer. The game of soccer, for those that have been paying attention to the World cup, as you can see, is physical as well.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho ISO. No way any other show is as diverse in all sports as you three levels to the game. Hello. We appreciate that. We try our best.
Joe Johnson
Appreciate it.
Chad Ochocinco
As knowledgeable as we possibly can and what we don't know, we try to research and investigate and watch it. They got me watching World cup and I'll probably start watching soccer again in four years, in 2030. I ain't gonna hold you and see. I've been to watch these friendlies and all that other stuff. Cause I'm not. I'm gonna watch the World cup and then I'm gone. But we appreciate that, man. That means a lot. Why is also looking like the fifth member of B2K? I saw them back in New Orleans when they had just gotten started. As a matter of fact, that was in 2002 in New Orleans. I had an appearance with him.
ISO Joe Johnson
B2K.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep, yep. I remember telling my. My daughter knew what it was. I had no idea. Ocho, what do you think about Olis Olise for France?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
He was phenomenal in that game against Senegal.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, Lisa is awesome. He awesome. Boy. He's a magician on that ball. He can create, take people on 1v1. He's really, really nice. He's really nice. He's dope. He played. He played for Bayern down in Germany by Munich.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
He nice, man.
Joe Johnson
He like that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Joe. I'm talking about silky smooth, you know? You know, Olise is like Jamal Crawford the way he. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a comparison. That's exactly. That's real smooth. No wasted movement. Yeah, he. He cheeky with it.
Chad Ochocinco
Dr. Frank L. Bellam said. I've come to the realization that if the Knicks can end a 53 year drought, then the Cowboys are winning the super bowl this year.
Joe Johnson
Hello. Let's go, baby. Let's go.
Chad Ochocinco
We were.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm tell y' all right now, boy, the Cowboys win. Y. I'm.
Chad Ochocinco
That's why you're not gonna win. You see how you talking? See how you talking right there?
Joe Johnson
That's why I ain't gonna happen. I'm too excited.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Joe Johnson
don't put that bad.
Chad Ochocinco
You put it on yourself. You burnt the money. Hey, Joe, you know when you gamble, you can't touch the money. Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, simmer down a little bit, Joe. Simmer down a little bit.
Joe Johnson
Why I gotta simmer down?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Hell. Hey, hey. I thought the man made a valid point. Hell, the Knicks won. What you mean?
Chad Ochocinco
That's our girl. Doc. You ain't never met Doc, but Doc. B. Doc done been to every one of our shows. She came to Vegas, she came to Atlanta, she came to New Orleans, she came to San Francisco. We got a live show. Doc coming. Doc and her husband coming. Okay, everyone. Doc. But if she wasn't first, she had to be our second. Our second sub. Cause some of them like. And Laney Ray and J Dub from Akron, they've been about five or six. That when the thing popped up. I saw those names. So that's how. That's how I'm able to remember know them. But Doc. Doc had to be first or second.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And. And every year after the Masters, they have a tournament down in Myrtle Beach. She go. She got pictured with my brother. She's like, hey, I know your brother. My brother said hey. Because I told him, I said, look, the lady named Dr. Dr. Frankie, she gonna be down there. I told her to say hello. And ever since then. But Doc loyal all the a chat y' all be. Hey y' all been great though. I mean we did unbelievable number we started out. I think we had about. We had about a thousand people in the chat the first night Joe. And then we built from there when it went like 2,3000 and 5000 and subs. I mean we went. As a matter of fact, we got. Let's see, October, November, December, January. In five months. We had a million subs in five months. Yeah, working. What's up, Big three? Y' all think the government won't step in at the NFL? Isn't on regular TV channels and all that streaming. No.
Joe Johnson
Hell no. It's about money step in.
Chad Ochocinco
You do realize the NFL weren't supposed to play any games on other than Sunday until the end the college season ended. That was the agreement that they made. So tell me what games when the college season is coming on the NFL come on what days other than Sunday. What about Monday? What about Thursday?
Joe Johnson
NFL greeting.
ISO Joe Johnson
They don't think about that. Bottom line, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you.
ISO Joe Johnson
They gonna get to it by any means necessary.
Chad Ochocinco
Step in.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they. They trying to have them boy playing
Chad Ochocinco
every other owners they give a little. Hey, you gotta find. Hey, you gotta. You got a. A presidential library, right? You got something going on right here. A little something for you. Hey, you list something for your inauguration. Don't worry about it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What's up? Nightcap. Love the show. Since the first live show. LJ to the Falcons. JB and AD to the Hawks.
ISO Joe Johnson
LJ LJ Falcons. What I mean which LJ be talking about?
Chad Ochocinco
I know, Jake, huh?
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Chad Ochocinco
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Take a listen. Hetty she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right? She says. He's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
ISO Joe Johnson
Give us examples.
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I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.
Joe Johnson
Goodbye.
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Chad Ochocinco
I know each on my Lamar Jackson.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, he ain't. What he playing Madden Lamont. Lamar ain't going nowhere. They say two. Two over there looking good, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Everybody look good, but ain't got no pressure, man. They put pressure on that joker. That joker fold like fresh laundry. If Ocho and ISO decided to have a cage match, who's winning? No rules, no weapons. Find whatever they want.
Joe Johnson
First off, if you ain't got me winning, something wrong.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't nothing wrong, Joe. Ain't nothing wrong.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, people got.
ISO Joe Johnson
People got common sense, yo. What you mean something wrong?
Chad Ochocinco
You can't see.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who can't see You.
Chad Ochocinco
You see Ilia Tempora? You see Tempora? How what you call with just hitting it with everything because the eye closed or a fracture orbital ocho and a broke and a broken nose.
Joe Johnson
I already knew.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I had the same thing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe. Ain't Justin Gaethje.
Chad Ochocinco
Who ain't?
Joe Johnson
When it come to me and you just like how Gaethje whoop that boy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. I tell you what. Matter of fact, I'm so confident, Joe, I let you get the first swing. I'll let you hit me first.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Joe, I'm just.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, for real, Joe, that man
Chad Ochocinco
said he let you get off first, yo.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's how confident I am in my hand, Joe. I'll let you hit me.
Joe Johnson
First they go and next thing. Only thing you gonna see is a ref laying over top of your doing doing this number right here, yo.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, you gonna be. You gonna. You're gonna be in a world of trouble, boy. I'm telling you now, boy.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Ocho. Me and you too, little.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. It had nothing to do with sides, Joe, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yes, it do. When it come to me.
Chad Ochocinco
And you would do.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm gonna jump on you like A spider monkey, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm telling you.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm gonna jump on like a spider monkey, Joe.
Joe Johnson
That's what. That's what you think? That what you think?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'll tell you one thing. You're gonna have hell on your hands. Huh? You're gonna have. Hey, when the last time you got baptized? You're gonna get. You're gonna get that. That's what you're gonna get.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Okay. I want to see you try. I want to see you try.
Chad Ochocinco
He might rush in on you, Joe. Oh, Joe. You know Ocho used to wrestle. Joe.
Joe Johnson
He ain't. Man, that man grappling game ain't even like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Who ain't yours?
ISO Joe Johnson
Joe. I'll break your neck. Joe, don't play with me, please. I'll make you tap out.
Joe Johnson
Joe, man, please. That ain't happening with you. I'm telling you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Which one? That left knee, huh? Okay, don't worry about it. I got something for you, man.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't gonna even.
Joe Johnson
You ain't gonna even be able to get to it.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a leg lock.
ISO Joe Johnson
You joke.
Joe Johnson
You worry about the wrong thing. You worry about the leg lock. Damn. You ain't got all that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yo, I got you. Hey, you. You don't have no combat sports background. I do.
Joe Johnson
Set it up. Just set it up. It could just be me and him.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I mean, have a match and whoever comes out.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, there you go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Matter of fact. Hey, hey, you can make it. You matter of fact. You know what we can do? Put us in the phone booth. I bet I come up out. I bet I come up out of there, man.
Joe Johnson
Man, I put that man in the sleep or he gonna be knocked out in there. He don't know. Hey, hey. That man don't want. He don't want this.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't want these problems like that, Joe, I come from, like. Hey, Joe, I come from struggle, boy. You hear me? I come from struggle, Joe. You know what I had?
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Narrator/Commercial Voice
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Joe Johnson
Hey, just cause you come. Just cause you come from struggle don't mean you can't get your ass. You still get your ass.
ISO Joe Johnson
I chew your face off.
Joe Johnson
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That. Man ain't that. That ain't realistic.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna show you realistic. We have to say, you know, cage match. Yeah, whoever.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, get us. Get us in the cage.
Chad Ochocinco
So we ain't got nothing. There ain't no rounds, ain't no time limit. It's just whoever come out.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. When you see me come out with Hitler last over My shoulder like this. Hey, hey.
ISO Joe Johnson
Like, hey. Liking life.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, put him, put him down. Put him. Put him down. Boss, you know what we should do? Hey, Joe, me and Joe, we should do power slap.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. I'm going first because I be.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
Joe Johnson
You get a shot.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm getting a shot. We're going to do power slap.
Joe Johnson
Well, I'm going to knock taste out your mouth. You hear me? Fire.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
DeAndre A in comparison to Namdi Asamowa in the NFL, he was that boy on the Raiders. Love the show. What do y' all think about the Steelers season? Nah, he was never as good as Namdi. Namdi at one point was the best corner in the game.
ISO Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco
DeAndre8 was not. That's not a comparison. Maybe when he went to Philly, you want to compare? Because he was terrible in Philly and I don't know what that was. Maybe they wouldn't let him play mad. I don't know what it was but he was with the Raiders. He was phenomenal.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, Aiden made it to the finals, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
And then. And gave up. Gave Giannis a 50 piece in a close out game.
Joe Johnson
He could. He can't do nothing with Yanis now.
Chad Ochocinco
And he had a dunk and let Giannis blocked his lob dunk. Remember that? What do you think about the Steelers? Where? The Steelers. What about the Steelers this year? You like dk? Didn't they, didn't they draft the wide receiver? They was trying to get Lemon and somebody snuck, snuck them. The. The Eagles.
ISO Joe Johnson
Philly. Philly. I mean it is you. You got Aaron Rodgers, man. You got. You got Aaron Rodgers. It's the last dance for him.
Joe Johnson
It is.
Chad Ochocinco
He says this is his last year. Obviously gonna put. Want to put his best foot forward.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
The question is defensively, how are they going to be? You know, Hayward is back healthy. TJ tailed off at the end of the year. Is he healthy?
ISO Joe Johnson
Jalen, we got Ramsey.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Bernard. Yeah. What recommendations would you suggest to improve the WNBA product? I would love to see 12 minute quarters. More minutes, more basketball, more minutes. More advertising, more money for the players. Well, look, I think they play 44 games. I think in 27 they go into 50 and I think by 29 they can go to 52. So you're going to get more games. I think, I think, I think they play 10 minute quarters. I think that's fine. That's 40 minutes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I do too. I do too.
Chad Ochocinco
And I think as the game grows, I think more advertisers will be A part of it, I think. I think the product is unbelievable. They're playing as good as they have any, any level. There's a lot of parody around the league. So no, I think it's only going to improve. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't change, honestly, I wouldn't change anything. Joe, you got any recommendations for change? Joe?
Joe Johnson
No, I don't got no recommendations for change. But I know for the ladies, I'm sure that they happy because more games mean more pace, you know what I mean? And the way in, the way the women's game is growing, man, in the next five to seven years, Uncle Ocho, like they making some good money now. They making some real money now. Considering the fact that probably the highest paid player last year was at like 300, 000. Now you got them making millions.
Chad Ochocinco
244, 245 was the highest. Was it? And so now you got people making a million. Million two.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean so it's, it's a huge jump, you know what I mean? I mean I think for. I think Asia signed what a 4 year, 5 million dollar deal or something like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, she makes, I think, I mean, it's okay. What do they should make it like 1.3, 1.4 a year.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So Vegas, that's really good. Cause ain't no state taxes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. And think about this. So in another five to seven years,
Chad Ochocinco
three year, five billion, Joe. So she's about. Yeah, 1.16. 75.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh yeah, yeah. So in about five to seven years, make some real five years.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I can see, I can see somebody getting two million, two and a half a year. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. When it, when it's time to pay. Caitlyn.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh yeah. Hey, she gonna say she gonna set the bar, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
No, Olivia Miles gonna set the bar. Cause she gonna, she gonna be smack dab in the middle of it.
Joe Johnson
They got a nice squad and they. The, the girl, what's her name? She ain't even back yet.
Chad Ochocinco
When she get back? Yeah, they got, they got a nice little squad feet could defend because before she had that ankle injury, she was like the MVP front runner.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, she won. She won the unraveled last season. One on one, one v one. Like she could play.
Chad Ochocinco
What do we got? Oh, ISO. Who did? Yeah. Oh, olivia miles balling. She gonna be, she gonna be in the running of the mvp. They win. What? Kelsey do kp. Oh, Olivia Miles gonna be. Gonna be in the running for the mvp. I don't know if you could do like. Yeah, Candace Parker did. Candace Parker won rookie of the year at mvp. But Olivia Miles can flat out play.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's the one from Notre Dame, tcu. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
You seen her numbers tonight?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, 12 or 15.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, how many points she had, Joe?
Chad Ochocinco
31.
Joe Johnson
30. 31.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, she can ball. Oh, she. She got game. She got. She got wiggle. She got game like a guy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, she does. That's what I said. She moves.
Chad Ochocinco
She moves like a. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You know who like Mile Moore. If you look at her game, she got a lot. You the. The one hand layup, the p. Look at her game.
Joe Johnson
My more had it all good.
Chad Ochocinco
She absolutely could oo ISO. If y' all went boar hunting, who's catching the most boar? Yeah, I ain't catching nothing I'm killing. But me,
ISO Joe Johnson
you know. You know, you know I'm a catch.
Chad Ochocinco
First of all, Ocho don't know how to catch hog. Ocho has never caught a hog a day in his life. Hey, even though he played for the Razorbacks, he don't know nothing about catching a damn hog.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, just cause you know about it, you knew. Y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Both of y' all knew about basketball and got everything wrong, didn't you? Huh?
Joe Johnson
Oh, here we go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, don't worry about it.
Joe Johnson
Here we go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Put me in the environment. I'm gonna adapt. That's all. That's all that matter.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't know how to catch, you go get yourself hurt.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't hurt.
Joe Johnson
Who you that hog about that hog,
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, I didn't been on the back of a PBR bull. You think I care about a hog?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you've been on his back. You ain't gonna be on the back of that. That y' all cut you with them tubs. Hey, he first of all, catching a pig, catching hogs. Me killing hogs. Me. Nah, nah, nah.
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't going without that. I ain't going with it.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, maybe, maybe. What kind of rifle you. What you using, Ocho? What you shooting? What you shooting hard with?
ISO Joe Johnson
What? What I'm gonna use? Yeah, the kind of rifle. Yes, shoot. Probably. Shoot, I might. I might use a.357. What?
Chad Ochocinco
No, Joe, what you shooting?
Joe Johnson
Probably a little.22. I got a little.22 rifle.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you try. So what? What you gonna do? Walk right up on and shoot him in his head?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, when I catch him in that pen. When I catch him in that little hall.
Chad Ochocinco
No, he ain't gonna be in the hall, Pin.
ISO Joe Johnson
They out in a While he gonna be free.
Chad Ochocinco
What you shooting? Fish. You shooting fish in a barrel?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You missing.
Joe Johnson
Let me think about that one.
Chad Ochocinco
You get a.222, a.223, get a 30.06, a 30, 30, something like that. A high, a high caliber rifle, Joe. That's what you use, I'm gonna use.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, I'm gonna use my.357. You use that and we assume first
Chad Ochocinco
of all a handgun. You going, you going bore hunting with a handgun?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Good luck.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't need no luck. I just need to hit my target.
Chad Ochocinco
You, you ain't hit nothing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, I'm gonna hit something.
Chad Ochocinco
I was shoot a high caliber rifle.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco
But that's okay.
Joe Johnson
I got. We. I gotta see y' all out there at work.
Chad Ochocinco
I already know. I've. I've gone hunt. He has never been hunting. He can't hunt nothing. Well, he been two legged hunting. He pretty good at it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
ISO Joe Johnson
Two legged hunting. What's that?
Joe Johnson
Come on now. Come on now. Come on now. Stop playing slow.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he good. He good. He good at that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, I don't hunt no more. I ain't even got no license no more, bruh. Good.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
A 308. Oh, oh. Start, bench, cut. Titans. Eddie George, running back Chris Johnson, Derrick Henry. Two of the three guys have gone over a thousand yard or 2,000 yard, 2,000 yard season.
ISO Joe Johnson
Chris Johnson, Derrick Henry and my dog, man, Eddie George. I gotta cut you, man. You my dog though. But Chris Johnson starting. I'm benching Derrick Henry.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
What
Chad Ochocinco
I a say? Nothing.
ISO Joe Johnson
What? There is no other order. There's only one person in that. In that list that has a 2500 yard season.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
When are the. When are the podcast Olympics?
ISO Joe Johnson
Boy, that'd be so dope.
Chad Ochocinco
We and Joe got a heel now. Joe and I, two of the three are effed up.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, y' all got it.
Chad Ochocinco
And our other guy gotta get his eye fixed. So we all messed up. One guy can't see out of whatever. One guy right knee bad, the other guy left be bad. We all screwed up.
Joe Johnson
You say, hey, so we all are. Nah, I'm good.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm healthy. Hey, my eye been like this in 1994.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What's the phrase about don't accept what you're doing to win? To say with the law, never accept anything in a win you wouldn't have lost, Right. You're gonna write it down. So never accept anything in a win you wouldn't in a loss. And if you do that, good things are going to happen. Sometimes we get. We just like the end result. Oh, we won. And you don't take care of the little things because little things, eventually nothing is ever big, Right. Everything starts out as little and it gets big.
Joe Johnson
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Nothing starts as a five alarm fire, right? Nothing starts off as a forest fire. It's just a spark that you don't get under control. Then it spreads. My guys, Ocho versus Prime. ISO picked the quarterback. Unk argues for Prime. Ocho argues for himself. Both in their prime. Ocho Leave humble 85 at home. We need Liberty City 85. Let the chat decide. ISO, you get to pick the quarterback. Ocho versus Prime.
Joe Johnson
I'm going.
Chad Ochocinco
Who you want the quarterback to be? ISO?
ISO Joe Johnson
The quarterback don't matter because prime gonna get work.
Joe Johnson
Who I want the quarterback to be?
Chad Ochocinco
We'll give you Carson if you want him.
ISO Joe Johnson
It don't matter who the quarterback is. Hey, Joe, I can tell you something before you answer. What's that thing the chat don't even know. I'm the only receiver in the history of the NFL that didn't get paid to play receiver. They paid me strictly for my feet.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm gonna give you your boy. I'm gonna give you your boy, Joe Burrow. I'm gonna give you burrow. Yeah, he gonna put it. He gonna put it right there on 85.
ISO Joe Johnson
Honestly, I create so much separation. It don't matter who the quarterback is. You could be out there.
Chad Ochocinco
From who? Prime, Boy, look at.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, separation from anybody. You can say all you want. You can say, hey, you can say.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me tell you why you're not gonna get no separation. Because time know you can't run by him. And once he knows he. You can't run by him. He's sitting on everything.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know I watch film, right? I didn't watch prime my whole career. Yes, I done seen people run by Prime. I didn't seen prime get beat by receivers that. That are nothing like me getting off the line.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I don't see. I give you three catching for 26 yards, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Child, please.
Joe Johnson
How many kitchen for 26 yards?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, prime couldn't stop me with eight toes or 10. Hey, that's, that's my dude. We got to get prime on here again soon, man.
Chad Ochocinco
All right. You know, man, you know, times like Ocho, that back foot.
ISO Joe Johnson
Get that back foot straight.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, ISO, don't get too excited about those Bengals. They got us come through. Steelers first.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who come through Who?
Chad Ochocinco
The Steelers, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Child, please, man.
Joe Johnson
He got a point. Oo.
ISO Joe Johnson
Not really,
Chad Ochocinco
my man. Say I ain't one of those 81 Chevys sitting on blocks in the front yard. No motor.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man. Come on.
Chad Ochocinco
I agree. What's up? Oo ISO. It's my 32nd birthday, and I'm bringing. I'm bringing it in with a back injury. Shaking my head, nonetheless. I'm grateful to see another year. Love the show. Appreciate you guys. Well, happy birthday, Roger. Appreciate that speedy recovery, you know, little friendly, little friendly hunch. And get that back, right.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. And the older you get, boy, the harder you got to work. Hey,
ISO Joe Johnson
man, work smarter, not harder.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, boy, that back. Boy, that back. Ain't nothing to play with.
Joe Johnson
It ain't nothing to play with.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't have it. I ain't let to play with
Joe Johnson
that thing.
Chad Ochocinco
How you laid up?
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
I know a dude that lost his vision in a firecracker incident. He can't see, but he can still spark. He still has that spark in his eyes.
ISO Joe Johnson
There y' all go also, y'.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
All.
Joe Johnson
What happened?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no, y' all make. Y' all got. Y' all got the jokes flying already, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Said that we. I mean, I ain't say nothing so that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh. Oh, so. Oh, you didn't make that up?
Advertiser/Announcer
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ISO Joe Johnson
Somebody really said that?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, so they traded. They jonesing.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Bet. Okay. Let me.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
Let me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Let me get the IP address.
Chad Ochocinco
Mickey entertains. What's up? Nightcap, fam in the army reserves. Been in the field for two weeks straight. I smell, like. Watch every live. Watch every live the next day. Help me make it out. Head back to.
Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder Hosts)
The.
Chad Ochocinco
Head back to the. The A tomorrow. Is Brunson better than Ice Tray?
ISO Joe Johnson
Who's Ice, Ray?
Chad Ochocinco
Trey Young
Joe Johnson
as of right now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
He's a better. He's a better guard. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
His body, he's just more physical. He can play through contact.
Joe Johnson
Yep, yep, yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Ocho.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Ray hit you so hard, you wear cockeye.
ISO Joe Johnson
See, his timing all wrong, so that's not a good one.
Chad Ochocinco
Nightcap crew, can you wish my lovely wife Danae a happy 31st birthday? She is a true Gemini. Danae. Happy 31st birthday, hubby.
Joe Johnson
Happy birthday.
Chad Ochocinco
That you're very special, and he appreciates your love and support. That completes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you guys for joining us tonight. If you watch England beat Croatia 4 to 2. Kane, two goals played very, very well. Many people say it's the best game of the tournament thus far. I think I might disagree with that, but y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. Up there's my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own Mr. Sweet Feet himself. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three is the NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Want to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support for making Nightcap the success that it's become. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember, it is a premium BSOP Cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. And it drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Want to thank you guys again for joining us tonight. We'll see you back tomorrow night. I'm up. He's Ocho, he's ISO. We're out. Peace.
ISO Joe Johnson
See y' all in Seattle.
Chad Ochocinco
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This episode of Nightcap dives into Joe Burrow’s comparison of the 2026 Cincinnati Bengals’ locker room vibes to those of his legendary 2019 LSU championship team. Shannon, Ocho, and ISO Joe break down team leadership, NFL traditions (and wild rookie stories), and then pivot to the latest in the WNBA—highlighting the New York Liberty’s clutch win and standout rookie performances. Wrapping up with a signature “Play or Fade” prop segment, listener Q&A, and plenty of hilarious banter, the episode delivers unfiltered insight and camaraderie.
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On Leadership and Accountability
On Hazing
On Opinions & Fan Backlash
On Trash Talk
On Bold Debates
This Nightcap episode is pure barbershop banter blended with real athlete insight and the trademark irreverence of its hosts. The candid stories, deep dives on the Bengals and the WNBA, plus Q&A connecting them to fans, showcase the unique vibe Shannon and Ocho have created. If you like honest, hilarious, and knowledgeable sports talk, this episode is a must-listen.