Best of NBA News Part 1: LeBron JOINS the SIXERS! + NBA INVESTIGATING the Bucks + Giannis ALREADY praising Erik Spoelstra

Summary

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Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Best of NBA News Part 1

Date: August 1, 2026
Hosts: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker (Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, with “Smooth” and Young T joining discussion)

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Overview

This special “Best of NBA News” edition dives deep into the hottest topics of the 2026 NBA offseason. Shannon, Ocho, Smooth, and Young T bring their signature mix of unfiltered debate and storytelling to huge headlines: LeBron James joining the Philadelphia 76ers, the NBA investigating a curious Bucks contract, what Giannis’ move to Miami means, the rise of new rivalries, culture in today’s NBA locker rooms, and so much more.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

Bucks’ $64 Million Deal with Gary Trent Jr. Under NBA Investigation

[02:59 – 10:43]

• The NBA is investigating the Bucks over a suspicious 4-year, $64M contract to Gary Trent Jr., who is coming off his worst year since his rookie season and had fallen out of the rotation.
  • "The NBA is looking into the contract and the collective bargaining agreement contained a clause against prior agreements…First Kawhi, now this. What’s going on?" — Joe Ocho [02:59]
• The context: Bucks’ guard rotation was already crowded, leading hosts to suspect possible cap circumvention.
• Recalling similar scandals: Joe Smith’s “handshake deal” with the Timberwolves (voided contract, lost draft picks), and the need for the league to prevent teams from stashing underpriced talent in anticipation of bigger future paydays.
• "If you're underpaid, nobody cares. But get overpaid, now you get investigated." — Paraphrasing NBA player Frank Kaminsky, quoted by Ocho [08:24]
• Hosts debate the narrative that players who take less money are “helping the team,” but not the opposite.

The New AJ DeBonza vs. Darren Peterson NBA Rivalry

[10:45 – 14:30]

• AJ DeBonza and Darren Peterson, top 2026 draft picks, are being compared to “Tracy McGrady and Kobe” as a rivalry hyped by the media and NBA world.
• "With these two dudes...both have elite talent, and they put it on display for us in Summer League. I'm looking forward to it, man." — Smooth [11:17]
• Discussion about how ongoing rivalries are vital for generating NBA storylines—“sports is always great when you have rivals.”
• Peterson (No. 2 pick) could be especially motivated after not going first overall; DeBonza eager to prove he’s the draft’s best.

LeBron James Joins the Sixers: Legacy, Fit, and Philly’s Big Bet

[20:13 – 41:57]

Reactions to the Move

[20:13 – 22:31]

• Major shock throughout NBA: LeBron joins the 76ers instead of returning to Cleveland or Miami.
• "When you talk about legacy and guys being great...the greats stayed on one team. ...So when you throw LeBron in that conversation, you gotta think about how many teams he played for." — Smooth [20:33]
• Young T notes the Cavs jersey “would've went crazy” for Bronny, but LeBron instead pursues a unique legacy in Philly.

Concerns about ‘Too Many Cooks’

[22:09 – 24:13]

• Can all-stars Jalen Brown, Tyrese Maxey, Joel Embiid and LeBron share the ball?
• "It ain't enough basketballs, bro...I don't know how they gonna use Jalen Brown. I don't know how they gonna use Tyrese Maxey." — Young T [22:09]

LeBron’s Role & Sixers’ Title Window

[24:13 – 41:57]

• Consensus: LeBron will adapt to a “Magic Johnson” facilitator role (18-20 PPG, 8-9 APG), empowering Philly’s young stars.
• "He gonna facilitate...Make Maxi, Edgecombe, Brown, them guys gonna score." — Smooth [23:17]
• Veterans (including Edgecombe, Simons, KCP) will have to accept reduced roles for a title shot:
  • "If I'm Edgecombe, I ain't necessarily mad...I can learn from all these great players I'm surrounded by." — Joe Ocho [24:11]
• Philly’s chance to make history: LeBron could be the only player to win a championship with four franchises.
• Major concern is Embiid’s health:
  • "If Embiid ain't healthy, they don't look like no championship team." — Smooth [22:44]
  • Resting Embiid strategically in regular season discussed.
• Sacrifice is essential: all stars may need to lower scoring for greater team efficiency and chemistry.

Notable Quote

“When you got JB, him and Maxey probably top five in the NBA in fast break points for sure. That's my only problem. It's like, I don't want to see Philly get bogged down trying to throw it to NB every other damn play.” — Smooth [35:16]

Giannis to Miami: Heat Culture, Coaching, and Next Chapter

[28:19 – 32:14, 46:30 – 54:52]

• Hosts discuss fit concerns for Giannis joining Miami, especially in a team lacking enough shooting and built on defensive “Heat Culture”.
• Pat Riley’s and Erik Spoelstra’s “old school” approach is praised.
  • "Pat Riley...he brought that physicality because there were not a whole lot of teams playing that style..." — Joe Ocho [47:42]
• Bam Adebayo credited as the foundation piece; stories of discipline, honesty, and physicality in Miami’s approach.
• Giannis welcomes tough coaching:
  • "I just want to be coached hard. I'd rather you tell me the ugly truth than a beautiful lie...I can apply that to life and the game of basketball." — Giannis, quoted [50:32]
  • Hosts note this fits perfectly with Heat culture, but adjusting to that truth after only hearing “pretty lies” could be tough.

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Old School Coaching vs. Today’s NBA Locker Room

[54:52 – 65:44]

• Shannon and guests reflect on how old-school (sometimes even harsh) coaching prepared them for NBA adversity and the changes in culture—contrasting tough-love with today’s more sensitive, player-empowered environment.
• “If coach ain’t sayin' nothing to you, he really don’t mess with you, bro.” — Smooth [57:04]
• Younger generations struggle more with criticism and accountability.
• Colorful stories about being held accountable as kids, family “discipline,” and how those experiences shaped their mental toughness and locker room approach.

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The Sixers’ Playoff Prospects, East Contenders, & Sacrifice for a Ring

[41:57 – 45:56, 73:10 – 77:43]

• No consensus on Philly’s path to a championship—the Sixers have a title window, but need to develop chemistry and prioritize health.
  • Embiid’s willingness to adapt, improve passing, and be a willing “connector” is key.
  • Sacrifice and role-acceptance across the board.
• Who’s top in the East? Knicks, Celtics, Heat, Pistons, Cavs, Miami, Hawks, Sixers considered, with special mention to Charlotte's sleeper potential.
• "They all gonna have to sacrifice. JB ain't gonna average no damn 28. Maxey ain't gonna average no 28...Maybe you stay there but take your efficiency up." — Smooth [36:38]

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LeBron’s Legacy, The Upcoming Documentary, and Retirement Timeline

[68:34 – 71:14]

• ESPN rumored to be finalizing a “Last Dance”-style documentary with LeBron, suggesting he may retire after 2026-27.
• “I think he probably...only gonna play one [year]. Hopefully they win a chip, he out. He done.” — Smooth [69:00]
• LeBron’s longevity and career achievements are celebrated.
  • “24 years...over two decades playing at the level that he’s playing at—we ain't never seen it before.” — Smooth [70:59]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 03:45 | Joe Ocho | “What they’re surmising...you had your worst production, and you signed four years, $64 million...what’s really going on?” | | 08:24 | Frank Kaminsky (quoted) | “Investigate the guys that take minimum or lesser deals when their first market value is way higher as well.” | | 11:17 | Smooth | “Sports is always great when you have rivals, you know what I mean?” | | 20:33 | Smooth | “When you talk about legacy...the greats stayed on one team...So when you throw LeBron in that conversation, you gotta think about how many teams he played for.” | | 22:09 | Young T | “It ain't enough basketballs, bro...I don't know how they're gonna use Jalen Brown. I don't know how they're gonna use Tyrese Maxey.” | | 24:11 | Joe Ocho | “If I'm Edgecombe, I ain't necessarily mad...I can learn from all these great players.” | | 36:38 | Smooth | “They all gonna have to sacrifice. JB ain't gonna average no damn 28. Maxey ain't gonna average no 28...take your efficiency up.” | | 50:32 | Giannis (quoted) | “I’d rather you tell me the ugly truth than a beautiful lie...” | | 57:04 | Smooth | “If coach ain’t saying nothing to you, he really don’t mess with you, bro.” | | 70:59 | Smooth | “24 years...over two decades playing at the level that he’s playing at—we ain't never seen it before.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:59 – 10:43] Bucks contract controversy
• [10:45 – 14:30] New NBA rivalries
• [20:13 – 41:57] LeBron to Sixers: controversy, fit, and chemistry
• [41:57 – 45:56] East contenders and the sacrifice for a ring
• [46:30 – 54:52] Giannis in Miami and Heat culture
• [54:52 – 65:44] Old-school coaching stories and the evolution of locker room culture
• [68:34 – 71:14] LeBron’s legacy and documentary plans
• [73:10 – 77:43] Sixers’ challenge to build chemistry, Knicks' momentum

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Final Thoughts

The episode was packed with sharp takes, nostalgia, and brutal honesty—emphasizing the never-ending evolution of the NBA in terms of both on-court play and off-court culture. LeBron’s move is a career-defining gamble, the East is as deep as ever, and the new generation will inherit a league defined by both epic rivalries and the challenge of balancing legacy with teamwork.

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“The sky’s the limit if everybody buys in—but it’s all about health, sacrifice, and trust.” — Smooth [paraphrased, throughout]

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[Joe Ocho]

guys, it's your favorite unc here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports, Stay for the stories. Joe Ocho the NBA investigating a four year 64 million dollar deal between Garrett Trent Jr. And the Bucks for a possible Sally Sale salary cap circumvention. Trent is set to receive a significant pay raise and multi year contract despite having some of the lowest production of his career. He averaged 8.8 points a game, shot 39% during the 2526 season, his lowest average since his rookie year when he played 15 games as a rookie in Portland. The NBA is looking into the contract and the leave collective bargain agreement contained a clause against prior agreements. Joe Robinson First Kawhi, now this. What's going on even more fishy is paying him when they already had a crowded backcourt. Ryan Rollings, Tyler hero, Kevin Porter Jr. And they drafted Braden Buries with the 10th pick. So what's really going on?

[Smooth]

Joe I ain't going to lie. It is a little skeptical, Uncle Ocho. But hell, I just seen Kirk cousin here. Did, did they investigate him? Did they, did they investigate Kirk Cousins for all that money he been getting? Damn. Hey listen, it's very, it's very unfortunate for the young man. I think he's still gonna get his money. But yeah, man, I think coming off his worst season since his rookie year, Uncan Ocho, I don't know what he

[Joe Ocho]

had fell out completely out the rotation.

[Smooth]

Joe so what are you investigating though?

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, that's the it seems to me because remember when he left the, when he left Toronto and came there, they only had 2.3 million. He took that.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

So they're saying you had what they're surmising based on this contract when you fell out of the rotation, you had your worst production since your rookie year, which is 1819 and you signed four years 64 million, $16 million a year and you had your worst production and you fell out of the rotation.

[Joe]

Yeah, but when. Hold on. When they investigate. Exactly who are they investigating? Are they investigating the team or they investigating the player?

[Joe Ocho]

The team.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Joe Ocho]

No, they investigating the team. And if they, if they found some funny business, what going on, they go. They're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna nullify the deal. They're gonna. The contract. The same thing they did with Joe Smith. Joe. Remember what they did to Joe Smith? They had a handshake deal. Yeah, that Joe Smith took the minimum. He had a handshake deal that he was going to sign this big contract. Somebody, if I'm not mistaken, got fired in Minnesota. And he went and told David Stern what they had done.

[Smooth]

Yeah, David Stern said, I got some

[Joe Ocho]

for y' all ass. I got some for your funky ass.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm gonna take three first round picks the next three years. I'm taking your first round pick, I'm avoiding the contract, and I'm gonna put this file on your ass.

[Smooth]

Hey, it ruined him. Yeah, it did. It did. It hurt him for a few years. Hey, but I got a question. They got rid of Doc Rivers or. He resigned. He retired. Who's coaching over there now?

[Joe Ocho]

Jamal Mosley.

[Smooth]

Oh, Jamal Mosley. So is it. Is it a case?

[Joe Ocho]

As a matter of fact, I just. I just saw. I just. I just saw him at the airport today, this morning.

[Smooth]

Oh, did you?

[Joe Ocho]

I want.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, I did.

[Smooth]

So I wonder, is it a case to where he likes. He likes the kid, Trent. Like, I don't know. I can't. I'm trying to make it make sense. I mean, hell if he just coming off his worst season. I don't know, man. I guess.

[Joe Ocho]

And he fell out of rotation. He had some DMPs up in there, Joe.

[Smooth]

Yeah, so. So Doc probably wasn't messing with him. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Joe]

I can't believe they investigated just because the man got paid, boy. Now if it comes.

[Smooth]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see what it is that they're going to look at. Like. Like, I don't get it.

[Joe]

I mean, maybe watch some of that footage, Joe, based on what we've been seeing, but with players throwing stuff, throwing game. Hey, they. They need to go back and check.

[Smooth]

I'm just saying.

[Joe]

Why you aren't you laughing, bro? He might have been doing that on purpose.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Smooth]

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Joe Ocho]

I don't. I don't. I don't think that. I think he did struggle because you remember, Joe, him last.

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[Joe Ocho]

He had some years in Toronto. He was letting that thing fly.

[Smooth]

Yeah, he was.

[Joe Ocho]

He ain't even in Portland because. And I think. Go ahead, go ahead, Joe.

[Smooth]

Now, in Portland and Toronto, they had pretty good teams, bro. He was surrounded by cats who were really, really good. I'm not saying the book.

[Joe Ocho]

Cj, he had dame.

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying the Bucks don't have that, but Giannis ain't played the bulk of the season last year, bro. He missed a lot of damn games. You know what I mean? So they basically was just out there air man for their damn self. And he's not a guy.

[Joe Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. Joe. Oh, Joe.

[Smooth]

Hello.

[Joe Ocho]

Taylor Jenkins. Did somebody say Taylor Jenkins? Is Taylor Jenkins the coach? Ash. And. And let me look, because I know Jamal Mosley got a job somewhere, too. Taylor Jenkins used to be the head coach at Memphis. Is he not a head coach at. At Milwaukee?

[Smooth]

Joe, let

[Joe Ocho]

me. But I know Jamal Mosley got a job. Where'd Jamal Mosley go?

[Smooth]

Taylor Jenkins.

[Joe Ocho]

Where did Jamal Mosley go? Because he was at Orlando, Joe. Pelicans. Pelicans. Pelicans, yeah. Jamal went to the Pelican. Okay, okay. Sorry about that. But, yeah, Frank Kaminsky said so. If you're underpaid, no one bats an eye. But if you get overpaid, investigate it. Investigate the guys that take minimum or lesser deals when their first market value is way higher as well. Then, see, I agree. Hey, he's like, hold on. Y' all ain't gonna investigate. Y' all ain't gonna investigate Wemby, right? Wendy took 50 million less. Y' all didn't investigate Jalen Brunson. He took 113 million less.

[Smooth]

Oh, he gonna know something happening, no day. Hey, you take. Hey, you taking that less amount of money. Hey, it got to be all right. I ain't gonna speculate.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm just saying it's got to be a promissory note somewhere.

[Smooth]

Hold on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. That's all I'm saying. Come on, now,

[Joe Ocho]

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[Joe Ocho]

Look, like I said, I don't begrudge anybody, but I just hate that sometimes, the way it's portrayed. If I don't take less money, Joe Ocho, I don't care about winning.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm being selfish. Well, y' all don't say that about the team by being selfish when they don't pay and they let a guy walk because they didn't want to pay it.

[Smooth]

Hell, no.

[Joe Ocho]

But I Want my bread now I'm selfish, man. You ought to help the team. That ain't my team. It's not my team. Hey, would I leave if something were to happen to this family?

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You.

[Joe Ocho]

You think they gonna cut me and Joe? They gonna cut. Say, you know what? You know what? Ocho. Ocho took a $50 million pay cut. You know what? We sold this team for $12 billion. Let's go ahead and get Ocho his money back, man. Please. Gonna do that, Ocho?

[Smooth]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

Absolutely not.

[Smooth]

They gonna tell you. Thank you, though. Thank you, thank you.

[Joe Ocho]

Ocho was so great.

[Glenn Washington]

He was.

[Joe Ocho]

Oh, he's such a great guy. He's such a character. He was such a character. Oh, my God, he's so funny. He was hilarious. Ah, give me my money. Give me that 50 million that I left on the table for y' all so y' all can get some other players.

[Smooth]

Hello.

[Joe Ocho]

That's what I want.

[Smooth]

Hello.

[Joe Ocho]

I ain't laughing about that now. I need that money. AJ debonzo on potential rival with Darren Peterson off the court, we're very cool, but the media. But the media and the NBA gods kind of built it into a rivalry. I've got somebody to say it's kind of like Tracy McGrady and Kobe. Reimagine. I'm a big Tracy McGrady guy. He's a big Kobe guy. So I guess they're going to gas that up. Ocho. Joe, is this the next big rivalry?

[Smooth]

Hey, I like it, fellas. You know, I think sports is always great when you have rivals, you know what I mean? And with these two dudes.

[Joe Ocho]

Yes.

[Smooth]

Coming in the same draft class one and two, both have elite talent, and they put it on display for us in this summer league, and they showed us potentially that they can be superstars in the NBA. I'm looking forward to it, man. I enjoy the rival because Peterson takes me as a guy. He's probably going to use this his whole career for not going number one. Yeah. Being number two, that's probably going to push him throughout his whole career. Uncle Ocho. In the same way, AJ DeBonsa, I think he wants to show that he's the best player in the game, bro. The best young, one of the best young guns, especially the best young cat in this draft. So I think it's a great rivalry. Both of them have huge amount of talent. I enjoy watching both of them play, bro. I look forward to the competition level being at an all time high. If we got LeBron getting ready to go out the game in the next year or two, man, we need to know that the game is in great hands, bro. And with this draft class, Uncle Ocho, like I've been telling y', all, man, it's some young thundercats, some young superstars coming into the NBA. And these guys have not disappointed in summer league.

[Joe]

I mean, they have. They haven't disappointed in summer league.

[Joe Ocho]

If you look at it, Joe.

[Joe]

I was saying they haven't disappointed in summer league. But as far as those, you know, the passing of the torch, I think it's going to be some of those other. Some of those other young guns, you know, your shades, your.

[Joe Ocho]

Your. Your.

[Joe]

Your lamelo ball. Anthony Andrews, Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown. It's going to be them that's going to take over from there. Those young Bulls are going to be something to watch. And the one thing that makes the NBA great is you need stories. You need stories. So the story of them be becoming that next. That next dynamic duo that. That are battling and become. It would be dope for the game. It is some elite, too, Joe. Do you still think they will be able to perform at a high level once everybody's back in that.

[Joe Ocho]

That.

[Joe]

That organized, structured environment with the best players?

[Smooth]

Yeah, I think. I think a lot. Especially like the top seven, eight guys, Ocho, top 10 guys, you know, they gonna be pretty much featured in any offense or any team that they play for. You know what I mean? Cause you can't. You ain't drafting guys like AJ at one, and just because he playing with Trey and Anthony Davis that you only. You ain't going to have a package in there that's going to feature him. You know what I mean? Like, they gonna get their opportunities, they gonna get their chances. Some I like because they going into, you know, organizations or teams with. With. With veteran guys versus when you look at a guy like Caleb, I like the Powell pickup that they got from Norman Powell from Miami. The Bulls got. But Caleb Wilson, that's in. That's in Chicago, bro. His upside, I think he's gonna have the best opportunity because he's gonna really. I think he's gonna play the right way. Not only is he dynamic and have a lot of talent, but I think he's more than just a power forward. He's more of a tweener, bro. Like a. He can play the five, he could play the three. Hell, he could probably even play the two. I see him bring the ball up playing a one running pick and rolls. I just think he's so versatile that he's gonna get an opportunity. Hell, he might be rookie of the year.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, look, stories is. That's what makes sports go round. I need to. What's the story behind it? Yeah, I mean, we got the World cup coming. What's the story? It's Messi, probably in his last international stage. An opportunity for the World cup to go back to back. Only a handful. Only two. What two guys? I mean, Brazil, I think Italy went back to back 34, 38. And then Brazil went back to back 58, 62. So here it is, Lionel Messi and his final World cup appearance. Ocho, Joe, Back to back.

[Smooth]

Oh, man.

[Joe Ocho]

Man, what better story is there than that? Look at the stories of how down 2o to Egypt, down to England, down to this team.

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[Joe]

Down to Cape Verde, 1 0.

[Joe Ocho]

And somehow Lionel Messi.

[Smooth]

Absolutely right.

[Joe Ocho]

See, and you got, look, in 79 when you got Bird and Magic. But what people don't realize, Bird was not really drafted in. See, back then, Joe, I could draft a player and if he went back to college, I still own his rights.

[Smooth]

And that's what happened.

[Joe Ocho]

Celtics did to Larry. Yes, yes. They drafted it the year before he went back to school, but they still owned his rights. See, back back in the beginning, the draft was about. Was all about territories. You go after guys like close proximity to where you actually played because it wasn't a. It wasn't a big thing like it is now. So you wanted somebody familiar with that area. So that's why you got Oscar Robinson getting drafted to the Royals. Yeah, because what, he went to Cincinnati. It's a no brainer.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

So you get guys, that's how we're going to do it. But yeah, that's what you could do. You could draft a guy and if he went back to school, I still own his rights.

[Smooth]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

They don't let you do that. They don't let you do that. They don't let you do that no more. Cause you know how to do. Cause it used to be injury reserve, right?

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

And they started to let you do that, Ocho, when I got into the league, you could injury reserve and then you could come off. But you know, some of those teams, they were stashing players. So then they say, you know what? We see what y' all doing. You put him on injured reserve, he gonna stay his ass for the whole year. You see recently now you go on injury reserve, you can come back off.

[Smooth]

Yeah, you know something?

[Joe Ocho]

They go get the system, Joe. They just got to. They gotta find a way to cheat, man, I'm telling You.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey. They say if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

[Joe Ocho]

Yes. Yes. That's how they used to do they stag players.

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[Joe Ocho]

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[Glenn Washington]

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[Smooth]

In the meantime, we got the big news that hit. You know, Braun went to Philly. Teague. I didn't really. I didn't get to see y' all if y' all was on this morning. I want to know what you and Smooth think. Smooth. Smooth. I'm gonna start with you first. I want you to let me know what you think about Braun going to Philly and then T you after that.

[Young T]

All right?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

I mean, it's a big move for Philadelphia, especially for the fan base. But I thought he was gonna, you know, legacy wise. I thought he was gonna do something like Miami, you know what I'm saying? Probably Miami just stay, like, not go to a whole new team. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking. I mean, like, when we talk about, like, the greats, like, when we are, we have arguments about, like, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. Those guys stayed on one team, so it's. It's like. You know what I mean? So when you say, like, you throw LeBron in that conversation, and then you get to thinking about how many teams he played for. So, you know, that's all I think about. Like, back in the day, we always talk about when we talk about legacy and guys being, like, great. You know what I'm saying? We just talk about guys. Even like Reggie Miller just talk about those. Like, if you were super, one of those guys you stayed with kind of like either one organization or maybe one to two, if anything.

[Smooth]

Right? Right. Young T, what you got for me?

[Young T]

Yeah, no, I'm different. I like that Bron went to Philly. I thought he was gonna go back to the Cavs so Bronnie can go back to Cleveland, too. He get the Bronnie jersey. Bronnie Sixx and the Cavs jersey would've went crazy. I thought he was gonna do the Legacy play, you know what I mean? Go back to Cleveland. Then I thought he'd probably become part of the ownership, but it didn't go that way. He went to Philly. I think they a really good team. I don't think they.

[Smooth]

You don't know if it's enough balls.

[Young T]

It ain't enough basketballs, bro. That's what I was saying. I was like, jaylen Brown came from shooting 22 shots a game. Tyrese Maxey shot 22 shots a game. Then you got embiid. Who didn't play a lot, but when he played, he was the focal point. And then you bring in Bron, I'm like, I don't know if it's just enough. I don't know how they gonna use Jalen Brown. I don't know how they gonna use Tyrese Maxey. It's just too many, man.

[Smooth]

I told Uncle Ocho, I said, listen, soon as JB got traded, I'm. Braun, I'm on the phone with Embiid. Cause my first thing is, like, big fella, you gonna be healthy? Can you give me at least 50, 55 games?

[Young T]

Yeah.

[Smooth]

You know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, if Embiid ain't healthy, they don't look like no championship team. You know what I mean?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

But the question.

[Smooth]

Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Smooth.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

I'm saying, like, with all that firepower, does it give him ammunition to be able to kind of chill into, like, the back end of the season to be able to have a playoff push? Cause he actually. He knocked what? He knocked Boston out by itself.

[Young T]

For real?

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[Smooth]

Yeah, I know. You know, you can't. You can't stop Embiid, bro.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Real talk.

[Smooth]

So, yeah, when healthy, Braun play his role, he gonna facilitate. He gonna make, you know, Maxi, Edgecombe, Brown, them guys gonna score. I don't think Braun gonna come in there. He ain't trying to come in. The average no. 25, he'll probably settle for about 18 to 20 a night with about eight or nine assists. But I think it's more of the control that he'll be able to have with this young running and gunning team. It's like putting him back there as a quarterback, bro. Like you, Maxi, he gonna be out there like a baby. AI. You can do, like, kind of how New York done with. With. With Cat and Brunson. They took the ball out of Brunson hand, played through Cat. He just. Brunson just kind of came off picks, came off screens, and was a score. I could see Maxi in that. I can see Edge come trying to be a lockdown defender.

[Young T]

How mad would you be if you Edge come though? You just came up an average, damn near 17. Now they telling you, you three and

[Smooth]

d. C. I don't.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, listen, listen, listen.

[Smooth]

But hold up, though. But hold up, hold up, hold up. Smooth and T, I ain't necessarily. If I'm. If I'm Edgecombe, I ain't necessarily mad, you know what I mean? At the worst case, we gonna have him for two Years. Now, this is a learning. This a learning tool list that I can go. He can take me on this wing. I can learn from all these great players that I'm surrounded by. Cause hell, I still got another 13, 14, 15 years to play in the league. It ain't like he ain't gonna get his money. When it's time for him, he gonna get his money. I just think they have a window and Everybody talking about LeBron reen chasing. I think he's found an opportunity to where he can continue his legacy. You think back, I thought he was gonna go back to Miami, fellas. I ain't gonna lie. But then once I started thinking about it, hell, Bron trying to make history, bro. He wanna be the one player to win a championship for four different franchises. Nobody has done that. Hell, probably nobody will ever do it. You know what I mean? Considering the fact that every night, bro, every point he score, it goes down in the books, in history books. Cause he's the leading scorer. So he finna put this thing so far out of reach, it probably won't even be in our lifetime. Fellas, for somebody to catch him, I'm just gonna keep it real.

[Young T]

Nah, it's over with. I don't think nobody ever catch him. They had to make like somebody had to hit 600 threes in a season or something crazy. Like they got to be doing something like we ain't never seen that we ever thought. But I'm just. If I'm vj cause I played on y' all team and when I came and I wouldn't get no shots, no touches. Cause I was hot. So if I'm him, I average 16 as a rookie. I'm looking to be like a 22 point scorer as a second year player. Like, I'm looking to like move up. And now Bron and JB come. That mean my shots go to dang near half. I'm going to eight shots a game. I'm hot, bro. And you got Anthony Simons on the bench and you got. You bring KCP in for another 3 and D guy. So if I'm not playing well, I know them two dudes is they seasoned veterans. They ready to lock in. They trying to want to chip. I'm hot. If I'm him, I ain't gonna lie.

[Smooth]

Oh yeah, you gonna.

[Young T]

So as.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

But what? How hard do you think LeBron gonna play during the regular season with that salary base?

[Smooth]

Oh, smooth. I think he gonna. I think he gonna compete because like I said, man, his legacy is still. It's still gonna be great regardless of the situation. But I think he wants to add to it, you know what I mean? Everybody talking about, oh, he chasing Braun, this, that and the third. I don't think it's that. I think he has another way he's going to put his stamp on the game. I mean, he already a first ballot legend, arguably the best player to ever play. Check this out. It's one is one assistant coach has had some doubts about how LeBron and Joel Embiid will fit together on the sixes. He said it's scary. It can be unstoppable, or it can be hard to watch. The unnamed coach told Mark Medina. I think that's his name. He said they're both slow and old. And when you get tired of. When you get tired and drain the clock and you're methodical and isolating, you know, every time down court and everybody just standing around and watching, he said, you gonna end up falling down behind because everybody. Cause they're so old. I don't agree with that. Because they had some youth on that Sixers team. They can obviously, even if Bruh and Embiid miss a couple games, them boys can carry them, man.

[Young T]

Oh, they got JB. JB, one of them. JB, top 10 in the league. Tyrese Maxey arguably could be top 10 in the league. So they got two. They got two guys over there that is capable to take over to be the guy. So I ain't worried about them scoring. But to win a championship, you gotta have Bron and the be playing at a high level.

[Smooth]

You do, you do, you do. And you look at you, you, you look at jb, he's gonna be looking to put his stamp on the game. He gonna be looking to prove guys wrong because of how the Celtics got rid of him. So I think when you got guys who come into the season determined and. And determined to make a case and show people up like this veteran team that they have. Yeah, I think the sky's the limit, bro. You can't rule out Philly, bro. They gonna be there.

[Young T]

How y' all feel about Miami? I know the show. I know you running the show, Joe. My fault.

[Smooth]

No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.

[Young T]

My fault.

[Smooth]

What do you think about Miami?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Oh, man, I think they need. I think they need more shooting, for sure. I'm trying to figure out how that Bam and Giannis situation works. And, you know, I wanna, you know, when you've been in a situation like how Yannis been, where you. You've been a man and you had 100 in control of everything. Pretty much like how you want to move and stuff. And, you know, Miami is a little different.

[Young T]

Yeah.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

So it's going to be. It's going to be interesting to see how. How all that. How all that works down there.

[Smooth]

Yeah, I think. I think Miami gonna be pretty good. Obviously, they're not done. I think they're gonna add a few more pieces. They definitely need some shooting. Everything. Point guard, they got the little Davion Mitchell kid.

[Young T]

Yeah, they gonna be able to guard.

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah, they're gonna be able to guard.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

People gonna be running two, three, zone on them.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey. They ain't gonna be running zone, but that. That. They gonna be trapping, boxing, elbows on. On Giannis. It's gonna be different, bro.

[Glenn Washington]

That's.

[Smooth]

I ain't gonna lie to y', all, though. But that's why I thought Braun was gonna end up going, so he could kind of really facilitate and play that role. But, hell, with no shooting Giannis and Bam, I know Bam can shoot it, he can score, but it's just hard when you don't really know who's gonna take care of the ball handling duties in Miami. If you bring LeBron in with Giannis, like, that's a lot. Plus, you ain't got the shooting that you need.

[Young T]

You know what they gonna do? They gonna go back to how they was playing when Bron and D. Wade first got there. Remember, they was hedging ball screens. Yeah, they gonna start hedging ball screens. They was doing all that crazy stuff. They gonna be doing that again with Bam and giannis at the 4 and a 5.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

John's gonna be motivated to do that, though.

[Young T]

Yeah, he.

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look, man, y' all know Pat run a tight ship over there. If you don't know, I'm here to tell you, he run a tight ship waiting body fat every Friday. So don't you think you're gonna be out there eating them Zulus and wham whams and come in and compete. He ain't having that. The one thing you ain't got to worry about is Giannis. Cause, hell, he stay in elite shape. You just gotta hope he stay healthy throughout the season. And this is what I always tell Cass, bro. You know, during the regular season, y' all know this. You can coach through the regular season, but, boy, when you get in the post season and the game and they game planning for you and you got to exert all this energy every possession, it's a huge difference, bro. It is not the same it is not the same. I know we talked a bit about Embiid. My thing is, do y' all think he'll hold them back? Like, considering the fact? I mean, think about this. Last year when he didn't play, I thought Maxie and Edgecombe was at their best. I ain't gonna lie to you. The way they got up and down the floor, the way they played together, the way it looked like they were having fun. That's the only problem that I have with Bron going to Philly, because everything revolves around Joel Embiid. Because think about it, if he's not playing, hell, that's gonna hurt you. But if he ain't healthy and he's laboring up and down the court, I mean, what good is it gonna be? Can you really depend on him in an 82 game season? And then, hell, we know how everything revs up in the postseason. Like, can you really count on him to be healthy and be there for this Sixer team? Tell me what you give me y' all thoughts, bro. Do y' all think Embiid really going. Is he going to be that factor that they need him to be, to be able to compete for a title?

[Young T]

You got it. Smooth.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

I mean, if he's healthy. But I don't, like, I think that they building this team to kind of like have pieces missing during this, during the regular season. So I think this is. I think this is a playoff built team. I don't think that they're going to do a lot of wear and tear with Joel Embiid. Whatever they know about his knees, they know it. So I think they gonna take more precaution. I think when he rests and plays, he's a better player. And. And like. And so I'm trying to figure out, like, do you really play him a lot in the regular season?

[Smooth]

You mean make him play. Make him play limited minutes.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Like, limited minutes sometimes miss games, you know what I'm saying? Maybe play half the season.

[Young T]

Dang.

[Joe Ocho]

I mean, what you thinking, T?

[Young T]

Cause I'm just thinking about the rhythm, though. Like.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that too, though. I'm with you on that too. And like, like Joe said, it takes like, like you said, you gotta throw the ball to him. Like, you gotta post. You have to post him. You gotta. You gotta have him at the top of the key with the ball. So I think those other guys can move the ball well. But LeBron wants the ball in his hands too. So how does that work? Like, he wants the ball, he wants to be able to dictate the offense and facilitate too well. So how does that work as far as, like. And I'm not saying like. Like you said, I don't think LeBron is tripping about scoring because it's a lot of young guys on the team. He's working out with Tyrese Maxey right now. They've been in the gym together. Yeah, I don't think he's necessarily concerned with that type of burden on his hands, but I definitely think he does want to play, like, kind of like a Magic Johnson role with this team.

[Smooth]

So you saying. Excuse me. Braun want to play more of a Magic Johnson role, and he don't want to have to toll the. The weight of that trying to score 25, 24 a night. You know, he wanna. He just want to be able to Magic that thing, get him 10, 12 assists, 18 points.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Would you maybe want the world and be to, you know, to get up and down a little more, too, with this team? Yeah.

[Young T]

I keep thinking, like, we keep forgetting about, like, now we're not forgetting about him, but Jalen Brown, he coming from almost averaging, what, 28, 29 points a game?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Like, one of the best players in the league.

[Young T]

Yeah. We gotta factor in. He still gotta be Jalen Brown. Like, he can't be taking a backseat to nobody. Tyrese Maxey, he had his best when he's scoring. So I'm trying to figure out, we know Joel Embiid gonna miss time, who's the backup center. They lost Drummond.

[Smooth]

They got boner. Boner that hard playing high energy, cat.

[Young T]

Yeah, but, like, y'. All.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Y'.

[DC]

All.

[Young T]

Y' all living with y' all rolling.

[Smooth]

I mean, look, when you got jb, him and Maxie probably top five in the NBA in fast break points for sure. Here's my thing. That's. That's my only problem. It's like, I don't want to see Philly get bogged down trying to throw it to NB every other damn play. And you get them guys out of sync to where they're not even, you know, engaged in the game. You know, they ain't really getting no easy looks. I think these young guys, Edgecombe, Maxi, and even. Even jb, they gonna thrive off defense, steals, and transition. If they ain't able to do that, bro, it's gonna be hard for them to win. You know, if we walking the ball up the court every day, we'll have

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

to rely on that for sure.

[Smooth]

What's that?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Deals in transition. I think JB gonna get Some plays in the half court,

[Joe Ocho]

like.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Cause you got. BJ was playing super well until Paul George got back. And then he had to take a backseat to Paul George a little bit. So. So I'm just like, he is a. He is a. He is a piece, a valuable piece. But like, like T said, one of them. One of them guys are gonna. Are gonna get the. They're gonna get the sharp end of the sword, and it's probably gonna be him.

[Smooth]

And you know what? You probably right to a degree, but I feel like they all, to some extent, T, they all gonna have to sacrifice.

[Young T]

Yeah, of course it'd be a good thing.

[Smooth]

JB ain't gonna average no damn 28. Maxi ain't gonna average no 28. I know what you said about Edgecombe. If you averaging 16, 17, you wanna build on that, especially as a young player. Maybe you stay there, but take your efficiency up. Yeah, I just don't think Braun gonna be a problem. My only concern, I'm telling y', all, my only was Embiid, bro. I just want to know where his mindset is, what type of shape he going to come in, come into. And with JB and Brian really taking care of themselves so much, like on. As far as health wise and playing in games, I hope Joel Embiid follow suit, bro. I hope he rubs off on him to where he gets back to being that dominant center. He ain't got an average no damn 25, 30. But he wanted. You want him to be efficient and you want him to be assertive. You want him to be the mismatch. I'm telling you. You see, I don't know if y' all seen the reports with Brun where he said him and Bruh had a real. They met up, had a one on one. Because think about it, if you. Braun, bro, you gotta know how this man, what this man thought process is. Hell, is he even trying to get up outta here? Does he wanna even be here? I know he making a lot of money. I think his money kicking in this year, so it's gonna be hard to trade him. So I think they gonna be able to figure this thing out. I think all those guys gonna really have to take somewhat of a backseat if they wanna be a great team. And I can just tell y' all this, bro, I remember playing in Phoenix and the year before, we got Nash and Quentin Richardson. We weren't no damn playoff team. We was trash. But I was out there getting money. Teague and Smooth. I was out there getting money. You hear me? So when they said that they were bringing in Nash and Quinn Richardson, I didn't really know what to expect, you know what I mean? I probably averaged. I think I averaged 20, 18 points in the regular season and 20 in the post season. Now I'm your fourth or fifth option. Hell, you ain't got that in the NBA no more. Ain't no fourth or fifth option in the NBA, averaging on 18 or 20 points a game. I'm playing with the MVP. I'm playing with three bonafide All Stars in Steve Nash, Amari Stoudemire and Shawn Marion. You have to find a way to be effective, meaning be more efficient. I probably shot 50, 50 something from the field. I was second. Well, I was number one in the NBA in three point percentages that year. And Quinnen Richardson led the NBA in three point makes. So it's like you gotta really lock in. I'm like, damn, we gotta pass first point guard. And Steve Nash, who probably could have averaged. If you just wanna be 100, he could have averaged 22, 24 game. That man settled for 16 a night and 13 assists. You see what I'm saying? Like, if you get you a situation like that to where you get a guy who really comes in and make everybody around him better, and I think that's what LeBron does, man. The sky's the limit for that team, bro. Cause they not lacking nothing.

[Young T]

Yeah, but y' all ain't had Joel Embiid, though.

[Smooth]

We had Amari though. We had him like, hey, Amari was a dog team.

[Young T]

No disrespect to Amari, but he a pick and role player.

[Smooth]

He was. And this the thing. So if you got two guys like Amari and Steve Nash running pick and roll, and then you got the top three point shooter, make Richardson in the top three point percentage in me, who you. You have to give up something. It's like, okay, boom, we gonna stay home. Hell, Amari got 50 points with 10 dunks. You see what I'm saying?

[Young T]

Yeah, but they don't. They don't got that.

[Smooth]

But what I'm saying is. But what I'm saying is, if Embiid is right, bro, he can feel that void. He can be that. That can be his role. I ain't saying he gonna score 30 a night, but when he out there, y' all know that, man. Hard to stop, bro.

[Young T]

Oh, yeah, you. Yeah, for sure. But you gotta throw the ball and beat at the top of the key. And he can get two to play him and he can get a double team. He can kick it out. Guys gonna have open shots, but that's not JB game. JB ain't a catch and shoe player. He can make threes. He not a catch and shoe player. Maxi can make threes, but I like the ball in Maxi hand creating.

[Smooth]

I do too.

[Young T]

DJ Escrow. He can make a three, but he a slasher. He can hit a three. Brian, he shot 31% last year. He can make a three.

[Smooth]

You know what's gonna have to happen. They gonna have to be a dog defensively. Bro, I'm keeping real because think about his offensive scores. I know, I know, but you got. You got two, you got jb. Who a two way guy? I think Escom can eventually be a two way guy. I don't think Max is bad at defending. I just think, hell, he loves scoring the ball. That's just what it is. You know what I mean?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

I think MB you think Braun can

[Smooth]

still guard to a degree? Yeah. I don't think, you know, you switch him out there on one of these little point guards or something, you know, he can slide his puppy for a step or two, but at some point he probably. But I just think Bron played from the shoulders up, you know what I mean? Like, mentally, he's so far ahead of all these young dudes. Y' all gotta think, man, a lot of these cats wasn't even born here. Who he finna be playing against? You know what I'm saying? So I always think Braun gonna have a mental edge. And I just think Philly, if staying healthy, everything comes down to health, man, they got a great chance to do something special. Y' all know how them fans are in Philly? I don't know. It ain't too many more fanatics, huh?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Who the top eight in the East?

[Smooth]

Top eight in the East?

[Young T]

Yeah.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Who the top eight? Like if you had to say preseason,

[Smooth]

I'm gonna probably go.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Not rank from one ages.

[Joe Ocho]

Okay. I'm gonna go.

[Smooth]

I'm gonna go. Who you going to? Detroit.

[Young T]

Some names. I got some names for y'.

[Smooth]

All.

[Young T]

We just did this the other day. We got Miami.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Young T]

You got Sixers.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Young T]

Got Celtics. You got Detroit. You got Hawks.

[Smooth]

You got Cleveland.

[Young T]

Got Cleveland. Now, I was gonna ask y' all about Cleveland.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Say Knicks.

[Young T]

You got Knicks. Knicks, the best team in the East. You got like a solid nine teams.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Seven right there.

[Young T]

Yeah. You still got Charlotte. You still got Washington. Two teams.

[Smooth]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Young T]

What about Orlando?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

What about Orlando?

[Young T]

Still Orlando.

[Joe Ocho]

You think.

[Smooth]

You think Charlotte gonna make some noise?

[Young T]

T. I like Charlotte, bro. They got a good team. I know Lamelo was the star, but for some reason, I like what they build. Canople. I think Brandon Miller gonna have a really, really good year. Kobe White was solid for them this year. He gonna enter the starting row. I just think they got a good group. Don't be surprised, man. Don't be surprised.

[Smooth]

No, I like. I like him. They got some hard working guys over there, too. Diabate, that's his name. I like him. He play hard, play hard. I just think Kobe White was so great in coming over from that trade from Chicago. That's why they were able to get rid of Lamelo. I thought Lamelo created value for himself. And if y' all want me to be honest, I don't really think they were that high on Melo on Lamelo. You know what I mean?

[Young T]

Which is why they was gentrifying the team. Gentrifying the team. That's all it was. There's a little gentrification going on. It's all good.

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah. I'm here to help.

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[Angela Yee]

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[Glenn Washington]

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[Joe Ocho]

Pat Riley also joked about Bam punching Tyler Hero, saying this,

[Smooth]

and I don't

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

want to get knocked out.

[Joe Ocho]

You know, Bam was one of those

[Young T]

guys that came in here too.

[Smooth]

Bam was in 2019, came in here, and he's.

[Joe]

He's been.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

He's been basically the foundation of this organization.

[Smooth]

Hey, what.

[Joe Ocho]

What thing about everybody upset, Joe?

[Smooth]

What's got everybody upset?

[Joe Ocho]

You heard what he said?

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Bam came in here in 2019 and he's been basically the foundation. Yeah, what, what, what report say?

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Everybody's upset how they treat Bam. What did Pat Riley just get out of his mouth, Ocho.

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Rouse, Rouse and spo, bro, they like that old school style, you know? Hey, hey, you say something, I'm hit you in your damn mouth. You know what I'm saying? When I see you. You know what I mean? I ain't saying they condoning it, but at the same time, they don't mind it neither. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. Hey, you see how hard spoke? You see how hard spoken? They were smiling. Well, rousing.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, he glad he did. But you gotta realize what Riles brought to the Knicks, what he brought to the heat, he brought that physicality because there were not a whole lot of teams playing that style of basketball. You had the bad boy Pistons.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

And you had the bad boy Pistons. And people, believe it or not, the Boston Celtics was a physical ass team.

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

They just. They just, they just Wasn't doing stuff like Rodman and Sam and Mahorn and Laimbeer, but they were a physical ass team. Now, if it required that. Oh, chief swung on Bill Lambert all the time. Birds won't have all the time because they say, you know what? You, you. You getting to. You getting out of pocket here.

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Here, take this with you and punch him dead in his face.

[Smooth]

Hey, there. Yeah. Hey.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, you see what Bill Ledbeard did to Larry Bird?

[Smooth]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Ocho]

He bear pump faked him, man. Let Bill land all his weight on that man. Bird just rolled over, just started punching that man in his face.

[Smooth]

Yeah. Hey, the game was different back then, Ocho. I'm talking about, hey, you look at somebody wrong. It was a scrap, homie. You hear me? Them folks, hey, them boys, them boy were throwing blows back then.

[Joe Ocho]

They said Bill Lambert was laying on the. Laying on the ground, talking about, did he get ejected?

[Smooth]

Hey, Peter. Peter Paul said, try it all, boy.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, but, but, but Pat, you know, he told you what he thought of Bam. What he. What they think of Bam. He said basically, since Bam has been here, he's been the foundational piece.

[Smooth]

That's what he said.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, and you, first of all, Ocho, you don't play this game enough. Joe. You played this game enough. You know, when the, when the coaches and the. And the organization, what they think of certain players, they don't never tell you this, but you see the way they treat this man.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

And then you could.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, look, level.

[Joe Ocho]

There's levels.

[Smooth]

They can say what they want.

[Joe Ocho]

But.

[Smooth]

But Bam is an elite talent. Argan ocho in the NBA, considering the fact at 6 9, 610 can handle the Rock, can score the ball, the intangibles defense, rebounding, like, he does a lot for your team, bro. So when you surround him with great talent like. Like SPO and Pat Riley is doing right now, man, I think you're gonna get the best out of that young boy, man. I think you're gonna get the best.

[Joe Ocho]

Plus, you know what they love most?

[Smooth]

What's that?

[Joe Ocho]

He come to work every day.

[Smooth]

Hello.

[Joe Ocho]

He come to work every day.

[Smooth]

Lunch.

[Joe Ocho]

No excuses.

[Smooth]

Cause they don't.

[Joe Ocho]

They don't tolerate excuses. I'm not going to give you excuse because you might use it.

[Smooth]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe Ocho]

Get the job done. It's really that simple. It's really that matter of fact. And you can appreciate that. Yeah, you can appreciate that. Yanis spoke about Eric spokescree. They said, I just want to be coached hard. I'd rather you tell Me the ugly truth than a beautiful lie. I don't want to because you want you to. I don't want to be sugar coated. I have a lot of people like that in my life that try to make me feel good. I don't need that. I need the truth. I can apply that to life and the game of basketball. Joe, do you believe Giannis want to be trolled the truth?

[Smooth]

Yeah, I do. I think he wants to be coached hard. I think he wants to be told the truth. And if there's holes in his game, akin ocho to where you think he needs to improve and get better, please tell me. I think that's the approach that he's taking. He understands, man, this is like, you know, rejuvenation for him. Second, second part of the NBA for him. A whole nother chance. So he's. He's getting an opportunity to create a whole nother legacy from scratch. And I think he wants to get off to a great start. Yeah, I think. I think he is absolutely right. Hey, listen, one thing about Giannis, we ain't got to. That's why it was so puzzling to me to hear those reports coming from, from Milwaukee, you know, saying how he was laid. This. He just don't strike me for that type of guy. He looked like the hardest working dude on your team. You know what I mean? And that's what you can respect the most, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

And that's why it caught everybody off guard, because more people than not thought like you thought. But somebody that was inside, you see when you get inside information, you like. God be damn. Yeah, he had us all food. That's what insider trading do, Mocho. But it's too good to be true. I didn't think this stock was gonna do this. I didn't think somebody was gonna get this contract. I didn't think they were in merger talks. I be damn. Yeah, and that. And see, that's when you knew it was over. He had to go. He could never go back in there. Not with Miles Turner. One of them had put it like this here. I'm not saying Giannis had to go, but one of them had to go.

[Smooth]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Joe Ocho]

When you. Because you already know. You can't ever do that. I can't do. Joe. If I can't be myself at work, where can I be myself at? Because I'm there all the time. You own the road. Think about it. 82 games a year. So I'm either coming to the arena or we on a plane or we have a bus ride heading to an arena. So I'm around you as much, if not more, than I'm around my own family. If I can't be my me, if I can't be. If I can't let my hair down around y', all, where can I let my hair down? At Nocho? Because I'm guarded everywhere else I go. I go to Target, I'm guarded. I go to the grocery store, I'm guarded. I'm out in public, I'm guarded. The one place that guys let themselves go, on the bus, on the plane, at the arena. That's why you see guys joking, laughing, having fun. If I can't do that, Joe, what am I?

[DC]

What.

[Joe Ocho]

What are we doing, Ocho?

[Smooth]

Hey, hey. It's tough because that's our sanctuary, Uncle Ocho, you know, to where we go. Yep. We talk about different things. We talk about things that we feel like would never get out of this locker room. So for the fact that those reports came out. Yeah. If I'm be honest, hell yeah. I feel away. You know what I mean? And you right, you can't bring that. You can't bring that back together. Cause I'm side eyeing Buddy the whole time. Don't say nothing around Ocho. Cause you know, he talked too much.

[Joe]

Matter of fact, it's not only not Giannis being there that the rest of his teammates now we. They looking at him funny. I can't trust him. I gotta watch what I say around him. I mean, listen, it's, it's, it's, it's messy. I'm not sure at what point where everybody became a chatty Patty, especially when it comes to NBA players or NFL players telling some of the things that go on in the locker room, telling, you know, intimate stories that are really for us, only us. You know, outside of that, the quote that Giannis said, I think it makes sense, especially for the Heat culture and what they're known for, what they've always been known for, How SPO is, how Pat Riley is. He's in the right, in the right environment as far as hearing ugly truth as opposed to a sweet lie. He gonna get exactly what he won't. He won't get exactly what he want.

[Smooth]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

But here's the problem that he's gonna run into. It's a lot easier to hear the truth when you've been told the truth before, when you've. All you've been told is pretty lies. It's tough when you grow up under Barney Porter's roof. When you get coached by Bill Davis, you get coached by Dan Reeves. Somebody tell it don't even bother you. Barney Porter would make you. I mean, my brother, you heard him, Told you. You talk about a kid and he made you feel small.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

He tell us all the time. He said, I'm not gonna give you an excuse, because if I give you an excuse, you will use it.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

People think it's easy. When you've done something, the better part of your life. When you've heard something, the better part of your life, it's not as easy as you think. People like you. Oh, I can just. Okay, it sounds good. It really does. But when you messed up and they blamed it on others, because I've been there.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Somebody made a mistake and he blamed me, man, you know damn well you right. You right.

[Smooth]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Ocho]

Oh, Jojo, you right. You right.

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I'm wrong.

[Joe Ocho]

I'm wrong.

[Smooth]

I'm wrong, I'm wrong. My bad.

[Joe Ocho]

First of all, he wants. I wasn't even in the read. I wasn't even the progression. But I take that you saw the man throw the ball, skip the ball to me. Now you talking about, I'm deep, I'm 10 yards. He skipped it at 8, I'm 10. The rock calls 10 to 12, but he skipped it at 8. You're right.

[Smooth]

You're right.

[Joe Ocho]

I'll take that one. Somebody else made a mistake. Well, you remember. Hey, you go all the way back 10 plays, 84. What are you doing here? What I gotta do with him making a mistake over there? I eat it, ojo. I eat it. That's on me. Cause I know what you're trying to do. You're coaching them through me, knowing that I can take it. You got it. You right. You got it.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, you know what they say? They say, well, if coach ain't saying nothing to you, he. He really don't mess with you, bro.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, man. Yeah, well, Dan Reed must have loved me. He must have thought I was his long lost son. Cause that man mofo me and SOB me. That man stand on my head, Joe.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, think about it, though. When you get that type of old school culture, Uncle Ojo, you see how much of a stain they put on your brain, bro? Like. Cause you never forget that. Because coming up, like, even though you got to the pros, guys was talking to you like that. But when I got to college, bro, I ain't really never heard a coach talk to us the way Coach Richardson used to talk to us. You Know what I mean? So when I got to the pros, it didn't bother me when coaches got on me, you know what I'm saying? It didn't bother me if I was a rookie. And he said, oh, we gonna sit you for a few games, let some of these other rookies play, man, I had them been through the wars already broke I hadn't been through it already. Hey, hey, hey. One thing about it, I was never gonna let it waver. My love and passion for the game. Uncle Ocho, when I was a rookie, bro, when I was a rookie, it was a moment right before I got traded. I went like 10, 15 straight games, DNPs, not even touching the floor. Like, not even. I went from starting. Coach was like, look, we gonna get. Cause I had two other rookies with me. Kedrick Brown, Joe Forte, they both were first round. They had three first round picks. So it lets you know how good the Celtics were the year before. They wasn't that damn good, right. So I had created value for myself. But I didn't understand this as a kid, bro, you know what I mean? So they set me. They probably already was working out the trade. They set me for the last 10, 15 games, DMP. And man, I never forget that, bro. Like. Cause it stuck with me. Because when you get traded as a youngster, you don't really get a reason why, you know what I mean? Like, man, pack your shit and get on up out of here. You know what I mean? For real.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah. Yep, you right. But the thing is, yo, like you said, when you young and even though Coach Davis had coached me hard my first year after that, I had like. I was one of the. I was the best player. So for my last three years there, I was the best player at Savannah State. Obviously he didn't yell and scream at me, but I go to. I go to Denver and Coach Reeves and I remember having this conversation when I went to speak at his homegoing service and his wife, Ms. Pam, said, Shannon Dan thought the world of you. I was like, Ms. Pam, I couldn't tell. I'm glad you filled the blanks in,

[Joe]

man.

[Joe Ocho]

That man stayed on me, man. Damn. That man stayed on me. Stayed on me. Now there are some, like, as a head coach, not obviously position coaches, they're probably the hardest on. On the players, you know, because I mean, some of those position coaches, man, I'd had to fight them.

[Smooth]

Oh yeah, man. Because. Because. Because position coaches, hell, if you don't reach your potential, they kind of probably feel like it's Their damn fault.

[Joe Ocho]

Absolutely. Absolutely. If we had a position coach man to do. He told a guy he was supposed to, like, he told him, don't go underneath because this guy's mobile. And he'll. He'll escape.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

What'd he do? Inside quarterback go outside.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Joe Ocho]

He go underneath. Quarterback scramble, go outside. First down. He did that twice. He's supposed to be on field goal. Block. Guess what. No, a pat block. Guess what. He ain't out there. We got 10 men. Boop. Down, up. Good. Next morning, he say, you know what? He said, I don't really know what's gonna happen, but in the coaches meeting this morning, I recommended that we cut you.

[Smooth]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

Told him just like that. He said, I don't know what's gonna happen, but in the coaches meeting, I recommended that we cut you. Oh, man. Hey, back then. Cause they would say things now that you can't say. You can't. You. You can't say what because you don't owe your ass. I mean, you might have got some of that in college, but they would say, hey, like, Lord, hey, you got to be more PC now.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

You can't. See, you can't say some of the stuff that. Because I was like, oh, my God. There's like, man, I wonder what y' all be. Nah, you can't. They can't put. No, man, they bleep everything out because everything was a curse word.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, everything was a curse word. So there was nothing. There was nothing. But you understood it. You understood it. It was a part of the game. They yelled, they screamed, they cursed, they tried to make you better, and that was the only way they knew. Because those old coaches, that's how they coached.

[Smooth]

More or less.

[Joe Ocho]

That's how they coached. It wasn't no sugarcoat.

[Joe]

It wouldn't work today. It wouldn't work today. But one. The first thing the player is doing is.

[Joe Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no. It's the players today.

[Joe]

Obviously, the ones that are really good, they gonna shut down on you. And the ones that's not good gonna go snitch.

[Smooth]

Oh, no, they gone. They leaving. They ain't dealing with that nowadays.

[Joe]

Hold on, Joe. Now, you. You got to be one of them ones to be able to get up and go now.

[Smooth]

Yeah, but what I'm saying is, Ocho,

[Joe]

if you're not in a position and you're not good enough to go, you know, ain't like you gonna start or play anywhere else either. You got to.

[Smooth]

But my thing. My thing is, Ocho, you got a lot of these kids out here, and I'm speaking high school, collegiate, like, they don't do good with criticism, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, probably ain't never been criticized. Yeah. Yeah. So look now when you run into that and you in college and you feel like you supposed to be better than, like, bro. And it's easier now because I can hit this portal with, you know, and go play for another team right away. They ain't dealing with that. You had to.

[Joe Ocho]

You have to build up to that. Because early on, I didn't know how to handle it. Cause my grandfather could look at me and I'd start crying because it hurt me so bad to disappoint him.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

My grandma look at me and she. They would yell. And I. I remember my grandma told my grandfather one day, he had yelled at me, and she said, barney, don't yell at me. He's just a little fella. And he said, man. He looked at a deadpan. He said, mary. When I tell him something, I need him to understand the seriousness of it. Because I might not get a second chance. I say, mary. He. He said, mary, this boy on a farm with these animals. He around his equipment, and he might lose an arm, he might lose a leg. These animals could kill him. So I need him to understand just how important what I'm telling him is. Joe, I'm five. I'm six. I. I don't. I don't know that I'm not supposed to be around a pto. As I got older, I understood after

[Smooth]

I saw a man lose his foot. Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

After he got caught in the PTO, Mr. Joe used to tell us, he said he'd always tell a Pee Wee, sundown, don't come up to the back of the machine like this here. Cause, you know, if you got jeans

[Joe]

or something, get caught up in a minute.

[Joe Ocho]

He has some fragile jeans. He came up. The PTO is the power takeoff operator. And so what it does, it powers the entire equipment. He has some fragile jeans and caught it. He like, joe, help me. Joe, help me. After a while, you hear a. He got his foot in his hand just like this, and hopping around. I take off to the barn to go get him. I said, man, Fred just. He like, Pee Wee. What you say? I say, fred just lost his foot. I said, he came up to talk to Mr. Joe. They got him. They couldn't.

[Smooth]

Damn.

[Joe Ocho]

So that. That was. That's. That's what he was saying. He said, I only get. I might marry. He said, mary, I might only get One chance to tell him something. But you know how. Well, you know how women are. But then when my grandfather died, I think my grandmother might. Especially that first year or so, she might have been harder than papa. Oh, she didn't play, boy. Greatest sh at you. At first she would warn you. Then it came to boy. She warned you as she shutting down on you. Like, damn. You used to tell him, we gonna. Hey, all right, boy, sit down. Nas did not tell you to sit your black.

[Joe]

They talking on every hit. I remember them days, boy.

[DC]

Yeah.

[Smooth]

Know how it goes. Yes, I remember that, boy. You get a lick for every word.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah, and then they beat you for something that happened two weeks ago, Joe. I should have cut your ass two weeks ago, huh? What are you talking about?

[Young T]

Fact.

[Smooth]

Hey, that's trauma, man. That's trauma. We all got, boy. From a kid. You hear me? Yeah, man.

[Joe Ocho]

And then tell everybody.

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Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

You know, I had to tell that boy ass up the other day, Joe.

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Huh?

[Joe Ocho]

Ain't nobody. Granted. Ain't nobody ask you did you beat me? Ain't nobody ask you that. Yeah, I don't even know why you brought that up. Yeah, your uncle said that.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

That boy been managed. I tore his ass. Oh, Lord, we be all at church, Joe. Yeah.

[Smooth]

You know that boy, huh? Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

He started to smell himself. I had to tell that I tore his ass up. Yeah. See, now I wanna fight you granny when I get home.

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah, she gonna tell it now.

[Joe Ocho]

You know, she gonna tell I like finesse, you know. Hey, I want to fight you.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

But if you start to fight me back and you hit me and I go, oh, oh. If I say, oh, oh, hey, the old people that play back there, Joe, they hit you with anything.

[Joe]

Whatever they can grab.

[Smooth]

I've seen it.

[Joe]

Whatever they can grab. I remember my scene. You had to go get a switch.

[Joe Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, trying to be slick. You go get the smallest switch you can find that you think,

[Smooth]

oh.

[Joe]

And you bring it back in there. Oh, so. So you want to play?

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

What do you think?

[Joe Ocho]

It's a game.

[Joe]

Don't worry about it. I go get a switch. Come on in here. You sit right there, man.

[Joe Ocho]

Bell. Anything, man?

[Smooth]

My aunt. My aunt hit my.

[Joe Ocho]

Hit my cousin under the eye with a neck bone.

[Joe]

The neck bone.

[Joe Ocho]

You see that neck bone? Oh, yeah, she beat that neck bone. He said something. Yeah. Eat him dead in the die.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, listen, man.

[Joe Ocho]

That joker had a piece of rice hanging right there.

[Smooth]

Hey, I seen it all. My auntie. My auntie hit her son in the head with a Pistol. Yeah, split him. He come. Cause we should live across the street. We used to live across the street. This. This my Cheryl. I tell y', all, she was a military lady, but she ain't play no game, though.

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She.

[Smooth]

She. Yeah, she put feet. Hands all on you. She don't play, but listen. He done caught himself catching.

[Joe Ocho]

That's what my oldest uncle was.

[Smooth]

What he done called himself catching fly with her, boy. She hit him across the head with that pill. He ran over my house so fast. He was hollering and crying like, damn, what wrong? And my mama hit me with a pistol.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, don't break that heat over here.

[Smooth]

Get your ass back over there. Hey, don't play back then, bro.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, it's like a. Like what you call them, like in the wash when they run it down the street. He said, hey, don't bring that heat to my house.

[Smooth]

There you go. Yeah. Hell no. I got some news I want to run by y' all real quick.

[DC]

What are they doing?

[Smooth]

It says LeBron James and ESPN are reportedly nearing a deal on a behind the scenes documentary. Documentary series similar to Michael Jordan's Last Dance. Y' all think this is last year? Even though he signed that two year deal, bruh.

[DC]

Do you think he can go fomo?

[Smooth]

Yeah, I'm saying, who's finalizing the deal? Espn.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Espn, who else?

[Smooth]

ESPN is nearing the deal to do a behind the scenes documentary on LeBron James, bro, similar to the Last Dance of Michael Jordan. Here's what I'm saying. He signed that two year deal with Philly. I think he probably. He probably only gonna play one. Hopefully they win a chip. He out. He done. He win. He done. I'm thinking all that now.

[Joe]

He win.

[DC]

He done.

[Smooth]

Think about the effect that the Last Dance had. It was during Kobe when it came out. I don't know if y' all really watched it, boy, but I don't watch it through and through. You hear me? I watched it and it changed. It changed how you view Michael Jordan as a competitor, as a Hooper, as one, as our goat. You know, everybody got their different goals, but LeBron Jordan teaches on. Yes, sir, man, that man finna do this one. He finna do this documentary. I'm telling y', all, bro, Philly finna be on fire, man. That's the only. I ain't gonna lie.

[DC]

And you know what, bro? LeBron is so good, bro. Like, I think we. We just hold him up to a standard where it's like, bro, okay, he, what? 19 years, almost 20 years in the game. You expect him to do 40, 50 points, but if he's still giving you 25, 30, and you want your young guys to do this, he still got another four years left in him. Even if he just give you 13, 14 in his last two.

[Smooth]

DC, that man on his 24th season, bro.

[DC]

20 what?

[Joe Ocho]

20.

[Smooth]

He came in at 03.24. What you were doing in 03, bro,

[DC]

I'm graduating from elementary.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

What is it?

[Joe Ocho]

Move smooth.

[Smooth]

You know, I'm telling people. Dc, check this out. I've been telling, okay, Ocho. I'm like, bro, it. You know a lot of people who. Who hate on Brian, bro, you gonna regret it. Because I'm telling you, when he gone, he gonna be missed, bro.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

You're gonna miss it. You gonna miss it.

[Smooth]

You gonna miss it.

[DC]

24 years, bro.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

They gonna miss.

[Smooth]

And I'm talking about a. A two decade over two decades playing at the level that he's playing at, dc, we ain't never seen it before.

[DC]

I ain't never seen that. And plus, I watch his son grow up. Then you play with your son. It's just unfathomable.

[Smooth]

Like, how do you do that? You hear what I'm saying?

[DC]

How do you do that?

[Smooth]

So.

[DC]

Hey, man, they're hard.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Hey, man, whoever's still taking, too, now you see.

[Smooth]

Hey, you see your boy,

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Dakota State?

[Joe Ocho]

Hey, dc.

[Smooth]

Hey, dc, Everybody, they were a little pissed off at Al behind that Magic City night. Oh, I was mad as hell. Him and that.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Look, the boy, the boy, the white boy throwing all kind of wood in his little. His little celebration. He talking about the girl.

[Joe Ocho]

You saw.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

You saw that. You saw the celebration you were doing when you throwing them hips in the. Throwing all kind of wood. You throwing all kind of wood, but you mad at the Magic City girl. Come on, man.

[DC]

Come on.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

They got our business, man.

[DC]

Come on, man.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

They got our business, sir.

[DC]

That's all.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah, stay out.

[DC]

Nothing to do with y'.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

All.

[DC]

Who the hell tell y' all to speak about a private party?

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[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Meanwhile, you throwing all kind of hips and stuff. You try the wings out first, man.

[DC]

Come on, man.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

We couldn't even get out. Try the wings out.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, hey. I ain't gonna lie to you. It was still a good time, bro. T, I performed, you know what I mean? Like, it was.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

It was

[Joe Ocho]

dope.

[DC]

Everybody still got the Magic City.

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Smooth]

Hey, dc, Man. Hey, hey, we appreciate you for stopping by, bro.

[DC]

Hey, man, it's always love, OG Love y', all, man.

[Smooth]

Hey, hey, real talk, man. Smooth gonna pull up on you, boy. Man, see what y' all talking about. Hey, what y' all got? Y' all got Indigenous to Teva. What y' all got? Hybrid. What y'?

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[Joe Ocho]

He got whatever you like.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

What. What Carlos got over there. Tell him I'm pulling up, man.

[DC]

He got the old school. Listen, man, we're gonna have to smoke, man. I'm telling y'. All.

[Young T]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Smooth]

Already, Already. Hey, appreciate it.

[DC]

I appreciate y'. All.

[Smooth]

Yes, sir.

[DC]

I bet.

[Smooth]

Hey, that boy a whole fool ain't,

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

man, he funny as hell, boy, that was a good one.

[Young T]

Yes.

[DC]

Move.

[Smooth]

I don't know, man. I think. I think Brian. I think Braun really. He want to win this first year. I think he want to win.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah. So you can go and get it over with. And I think opportunity to win it this year, too. Like I said, if they know how to figure out their rotation and kind of finagle the regular season where they don't have to play too many impactful minutes, the ones that they're gonna really count on in the postseason. Yeah, I think they're gonna be all right. You know what I'm saying? Kind of let JB and Tyrese Maxey kind of, you know, run the forefront of the regular season and then let Joel and Beaten and. And. And LBJ come in, you know, I mean, towards the end, and kind of go ahead and finish it off.

[Smooth]

Oh, yeah, they. They.

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[Smooth]

He gonna. He gonna get right to it, bro. I think they're gonna have a hell of a training camp. They all gonna be on one accord. They're gonna try to jail quickly, even though it's gonna be. It's gonna oppose some challenges. But I think if anybody could do it, bro, I think, buddy, I think Bron Brown gonna be able to get it done, bro.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

Gonna get it done. I think. I think this probably be the best we ever seen Joel Abid in a long time.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

You know what I'm saying? When you got that pressure of having to play beside a person like LeBron, one of the best players to ever do it in the history of the game.

[Smooth]

Yeah.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

You know what I'm saying? That pressure is gonna be on him to not do all that, baby, you know, playing like a baby and be taking nights off and when you really can play, you know what I'm saying? So.

[Smooth]

Amen.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

But you gonna get challenged on a different type of level.

[Smooth]

I think it was opposed some challenges to a plan with LeBron too smooth. Like everybody can't. You know what I mean? And I think he gonna open his

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

eyes up a little bit. He gonna have, you know, some people like, you know, how many steps ahead he probably can think the game when he's on the court, you know what I'm saying? Probably Joel Embiid doesn't know because he's still bad in traps, you know what I'm saying? When you trap his ass on the block, he'll turn it over, he'll throw it in a standstill.

[Smooth]

Oh yeah, if you.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

But if. You know, now I got a guy like LeBron who's unseen, tilts every other, every. Everything in basketball can throw at you as far as on defensive end. And he's still succeeding. He can help him open his eyes up and he can like to where he can be making those blind passes like, you know, LeBron does when he's, when he's double teamed or something like that. He done told somebody to be in this certain spot because he knew the double team was going to come, you know, five seconds before it came. You know what I mean?

[Smooth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, you know what it is, bro? It's like Joel and B, he be so thirsty to score at times if we just keeping it real, you know what I mean? And then you look at. When you watch Jokic play, he's a willing passer, he's a pass first big that it's hard to trap him, you know what I'm saying? So I think he plays at the

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

top before he plays at the bottom, you know what I'm saying? That's what's good about Nicola. I'm gonna start off, but he plays a game like chess, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna start off top of the key. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna make my right Reeves. And then, you know, when we need a bucket or two, I'm gonna go down there and get us a bucket, you know what I'm saying? Other than that, I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna try to play off my teammates first, get them life, you know what I'm saying? Like I'll be, I'll be telling, I'll be telling my AAU team like the, the basketball, you gotta look at it as like a ball of energy, you know what I'm saying? If I keep the energy to myself, I'm draining the life out of everybody else. I gotta pass the ball even if I don't. Even if your teammate doesn't score. Just him touching the ball, you know what I'm saying? It gives him life and he feels like He's a part of the mission. Hello.

[Smooth]

Hello.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Smooth]

Hello. So I think with Embiid, him being a willing passer, you know what I mean? Not trying to get 30 at night, just keeping it a beam. Him being a willing passer, loosening up the defense, making it easy for those guys around. Him being able to get Edgecom on them back door cuts to where he yimmy yamming that thing. You hear me? You know, kicking it out after double team fast. You know, we get that quick swing, swing with the three in the corner. I just feel like they got so many ways that they'll be able to beat you, bro, if everybody clicking on the same page. But they gonna be scared smooth. They gonna be scared, bro.

[Smooth (alternate or co-host)]

I think so, man. But they gonna have to knock that momentum off from what the, what the Knicks done believed in. Man. Them folks gotta knock that tidal wave off. Cause this is. It's a different type of confidence that they coming in the season with now that they done won. And they don't knock that they don't knock. Feel like they don't knock Goliath off and Wimby, you know, everybody didn't give them a chance. You know what I'm saying? Oh, for sure. They come with a different type of demeanor.

[Smooth]

And you know what they got, they, they, they already got that niche, that chemistry and continuity that we talk about that Philly is going to be trying to build. They already, they didn't had it. They done been through the lows of the NBA, the shortcomings. Now they done won a title. Yeah, you right, bro. They coming back, fighting to keep what's theirs. You know what I mean? It's gonna be, hey, man, we gonna be in for a hell of a

[Joe Ocho]

welcome to on the field.

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