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Joe
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Joe
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Debo
The Chicago Bears baby. The Bears quarterback coach J.T. barrett wants Caleb Williams to do less take what the defense is giving him. Barrett says Caleb could save energy by simply foregoing some of the wilder plays in favor of hitting open pass catchers underneath. He said late in some of the games there were making some. He was making some heroic plays, but it wasn't necessary. If we execute in the first quarter and second quarter, we might be up two touchdowns by time we get to the fourth quarter. We'd be effective and take what, sorry, we'd be efficient and take what the defense is giving us. You don't necessarily have to put on a cape and make those crazy plays because you're already. Because you already were killing them in the first already were killing them in the first three quarters.
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Joe yes.
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Debo
Why you think, why you think the quarterback coach on. On Caleb? You think it's a good thing, bad thing? How do you, how do you look at this?
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Joe
I look at it as a good thing. It's not bad that he's speaking on Caleb like this. I think it's high praise. You know, being able to do the Superman throw, being able to get out of pocket, being able to have that in your bag is amazing. You know what I'm saying? Being able to have a bag of tricks people, all the other quarterbacks, a lot of ones can't throw on the run, can't move the way that he does. He's just saying you can make it so much easier on yourself to where you can. You don't have to get into your duffel. Having that is amazing. But sometimes a simple pass, being able to just read it, get it out of your hands a little bit quicker is you don't have to pull out the cape knowing that you. He's not saying knowing that you have it is. That's great. But sometimes you do.
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Debo
You.
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Joe
You're pulling it out too early, you know what I'm saying? Where there's simple plays, where you could just make this check down, make this throw, there's other windows, and then you're extending the play when it doesn't need to be extended, you're making razzle dazzle. When it doesn't need to be razzle dazzle. When we have certain plays when it's executed, there's timing on some of these stuff. So just boom. Plays open right there, hit it, and then we go to the next one instead of, ah, hold on, boom. Now you just making. You're creating something else, which is great. You got that in your bag. But you can make it so much easier on yourself to where, boom. The first one's not there, hit the second one. You know what I'm saying? So he's just saying you could be already up two touchdowns to where we didn't have to have you doing all of these wild stuff to where simply dinkin, you know what I'm saying? You're making the plays when it needs to be made. And now we're up 21 points to where now you're having to pull something out your hat, rabbit out of hat in the fourth quarter and make crazy plays to bring us back in the game when we're up 21. Now we're handing the ball off, we're running out clock simply just chilling to where we're relaxing and there's nothing that we have to worry about. So it's not. He's not knocking that. He's like, whoa, you're amazing, but you can make the game so much simpler for yourself. So I think it's a. It's a good thing that he's just coaching him up, still saying that he has a lot and that he has a lot to grow from. But he's not saying, do less, you don't have to do as much. But I love that you can do that, but you don't have to put yourself in that position as much.
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Debo
Yeah, he's. He's, you know, I think he's. I think he's being a good coach. He's trying to improve his player, you know, year in and year out so that he's not, you know, regressing and letting him know, yo, this is where you need to improve. Like, so you need to go and, you know, process things faster so that you can see those passing windows so that you can hit them faster. So that you can recognize, you know, the defense that you're looking at and get the ball where it should be. You know, his completion rate was what, like 58%? That's not, that's not really high. He had seven interceptions. But when you look at it, it should have been more than that. I think we dropped two of them in the game we played against him. And when you look at the, the Pro Football focus, they're saying he had 19 worthy turnover plays, where basically they dropped 12. That should have been turned over. So it should have been 19 turnovers. And that's again another part of him taking unnecessary risks and, you know, not taking what he said, like the defense giving him. He's not taking what the defense given he's going and he's not processing the thing fast enough to get it out to where he could have got it into, you know, somebod hands fast enough. And I think the worst thing that happens is, especially in coaching is that you get a player that's good or that's excellent, and then the coach thinks, oh, I don't got to coach him anymore. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't have to do anything to, to improve them. You know, they're, they're where they're at. Is nothing else that I could do. You know, coaching wise, that, and, and that's, that's wrong. Especially when you go for a quarterback. The big thing with a quarterback is they have to know everything on the offensive side. So the only way to increase them in their, you know, ability to do things is increasing their knowledge and processing of what it is that they're looking at so that they can get the ball out quicker. Like quarterback, he has to know what everybody is doing on the field. So in that process, at least a good one, you know, in that process, he has to know that. Now when you're on the defensive side, you know, I can increase my skill level easily just by knowing what I'm doing, first and foremost, thousand percent. Now after that, I need to know what the people are around me are doing. So that's going to increase my knowledge of what he's doing, what he's doing. Now if I go into this defense as a quarterback would in an offense, and now everybody on that defense knows what's going on. And like, when you look at our defense from 2002, four, from 2004 to about 2012, you had a group of guys that played with each other five, six, seven, eight years, and they had the knowledge of what everybody was Doing they down pat or what they were doing. And then they had a knowledge and understanding of what everybody else around them was doing so that they could help their partner. So when it came down to it and you know, we got into a frame of where, you know, you were having different guys switch in and out and then you were having younger guys coming in. Like you got a younger guy coming in that don't have a complete concept of Dick LeBeau's defense. That's hard to get to when you're not 100, 100% sure on just your assignment. And you're being put in there like that's going to drastically drop your defensive production. And that's what we were dealing with, you know, at a point where, you know, they finally didn't re sign Coach Le Bow. It's like he was, he was having to start younger players that didn't have a full concept and grasp of the defense. And then it was things that were having to be changed so they didn't have to know as much of the defense. And when you do that and you force things like that, you take away other things like we had said before. So the big, the big thing is like making sure you're improving your player. Every year with Coach Butts like, okay, I knew what I was doing. Now what I need to do, I need to know what my corner do. I need to know what my line is doing. I need to know what my safety doing. I need to know what my inside linebacker doing until I could get to the point to where I know at least what this half of the defense is doing. And once I got to that, then I would start going over a little further because when it comes down to it, it's parts of the job where I would be seen. Like, I'm seeing on to the slot. I'm on the slot, dude. And I know that if I let him inside, I'm in trouble. I cannot let him inside because he's going to be running free because I know the guys here, they're going to be gone. Yeah, the last thing I could do is let him inside. I don't care if he beats me outside. There's less room there. I got sideline to help me, but I damn sure can't let him in.
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Joe
Thousand percent. We're speaking on learning, learning your jobs, you know what I'm saying? Making sure that you know the nuances. And when I talk about the quarterback position, Deebo is the, is the hardest position to play. I think it's because it's above the neck. It's mental. Like, they have to know. When you say in a coach on the field, when you wear deep, like you say, you learn it, you learn seam. I'm a corner at first. I'm learning man to man. Cover two, cover three. I'm trying to learn to play. I gotta know my job. Then when I start knowing what I gotta do, I know my safety's gotta do, but then I learn what the D line's gotta do. I know where my running angles are, like I got outside. So you just start to learn everything. I start learning where the linebackers are, and you start learning every single coverage where everybody's doing. And that takes a little time, but then that's when you start to really know what's going on around you and where your help's coming from and who you can help. But you're still maintaining your job. Quarterback, you gotta know the running backs, jobs, every single part of his job, everything, all. Every single receiver, the tight ends, the linemen, the checks, when people are moving, then when you're getting good at quarterback, you know every defense that you're going against, you know who you're watching when they motion. So you're playing a chess game with the other team. When you're young, you're just out there playing football. You're just out there, okay, I got this, man. Boom. You don't understand the grand scheme of. The coaches are looking from the outside down, setting up this play to run this play. When you're a good quarterback, you're setting up the defense for plays, for another play that you already know that you're going to run. So quarterbacks are also coaches. So the more that you know, the more that these receivers know what this running back's doing, what my lineman's doing, what everybody's doing. That's how your team gets better. So with Caleb, he has all the natural ability, the younger and the great players, you want to get coached. Your coaches are helping you get better. They're not going to be the ones playing, but they're helping you break down these defenses. So you know when this safety drops, what I'm looking at, where my hots are, where I'm going to go. You're just in control. So the more with him coaching blazes, I'm trying to make it easy for you, Caleb. I'm so glad that you can get out of stuff, escape, make these throws unbelievable. But when you know what's going on, when you start looking people off, you're literally chilling with eyes moving people and then throwing over here because you know where you need to go. You didn't have to make a step. You just literally throw a shoulder over there. How they moving? And now you got a whole shot to the right. So just coaches being able to put their players in great position. He's great. He can, he can make that throw in his sleep, but he might just be doing too much looking around. Oh, no, no, no. You need a little shoulder and now you can hit that in the window. You got the arm, you got the thing. You just need to get on time knowing where these people are going to be at. So good coaching and great players want to get coached. He's, look, he doesn't see this as a bad thing. He's like, my nose. I'm that man.
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Joe
Hello?
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Malcolm Glebel
Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.
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Stefano Pallard
Your pronunciation is. It's strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
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Malcolm Glebel
I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans. In the digital age.
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Stefano Pallard
Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team.
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Malcolm Glebel
You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
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Stefano Pallard
When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.
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Malcolm Glebel
To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.com Ferrari
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Martha (Kohler Ambassador)
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Joe
Prices and participation vary, and he just wants me to be able to do it even more chill, you know what I'm saying? So when I do got to do the other stuff, I can do that, but I'm just relaxed. I'm poised. I'm not gonna hit. I'm in total control. I know where everybody's at. I know what all the defense is doing. So this is just learning. Great coaches, they say this because they just, they see they. You're never perfect. Nobody's never perfect.
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Debo
No.
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Joe
And a coach is always going to be able to coach you up. And great players are always going to want to get coached because you know what you did wrong. It looks good out there. Okay. Yeah, I made these plays, but like this one, I got hit on my, my, my, my hands weren't on the right spot. You know what I'm saying? Like, my eyes were on the wrong spot.
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Debo
Well, same thing, you know, like you get the quarters and you got. You get quads away from you. Like, why am I even dropping anywhere over here? I need to be dropping, looking for something. Coming back right now.
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Commercial Voice
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Debo
I gotta help. Like, yo, hey, I'm late.
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Joe
Don't be out here covering grass.
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Debo
Let one go. Let one. Look, I'm. I'm communicating that. So they ain't even wasting their time with it.
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Joe
Yes.
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Debo
Some guys like. No, I just. I'm here. I'm waiting on. I'm waiting on the two to come.
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Joe
No, dude, no talk over here.
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Debo
You got to talk. You got to get over here, because it's coming now. When they get there, you got to be there waiting on it.
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Joe
Yep.
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Debo
For sure. For sure, bro. Listen, Manziel, he dominated in his MMA debut. He won't fight again, dude. He said he won't fight again.
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Joe
Johnny Lee.
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Debo
Yeah. Johnny Manziel, baby.
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Joe
He said,
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Debo
bruh. That's who it is. He beat up Bob Minnery.
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Joe
Yeah. Your boy.
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Debo
And yeah. In the first. First round stoppage victory Sunday, Saturday night at the UFC Apex center in Las Vegas. They fought in Vegas, bro.
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Joe
Yeah, they'll show it off.
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Debo
Some skills as a fight. Listen, bro, he was. You see it dog out of him, man.
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Joe
Did you see it? Yes, yes. Okay. I saw it. My man. I called him.
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Debo
It was hot.
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Joe
Two minutes with them hot feet. That boy was using their feet first, and I don't think Bob was expecting him to use his feet.
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Debo
Did you see how he came out immediately? And Bob went to, like, jumping like he was running back scared, bruh.
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Joe
Oh, yeah, man. He was gonna lie.
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Debo
I thought. I thought. I thought Johnny was a little more of a naturally leaner person.
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Joe
What you mean?
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Debo
He looked like he put on a little bit of weight, man.
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Joe
You know what I'm saying? I've been retired for a minute, you know what I'm saying? Johnny be on the bruise. He be chilling. He don't be in the Johnny 19, not too. He'll be in the weight room like that.
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Debo
Hey, yeah, he said. He said afterwards. Yeah, he was. Yeah, that was. That was good enough. You said one time was good enough.
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Joe
Yes, because my man was out there talking that trash. And I ain't think he was a professional fighter either. Johnny. No, he's not. Getting in there versus no pros versus nobody else. He's like, who? Who you, Bob? You think you now. I'll whoop you, Bob. Oh, you. Oh. Oh, you. Oh. I whoop you, Bob. Come on.
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Debo
Right now.
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Joe
Listen, he went in there, kicked him up, you know what I'm saying? Gave him a little game, a little Goldberg tackle, then got on top of my man, started hitting him with the drummer boy, the ground.
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Debo
Hey, listen, he got tired on the ground. And pound, though, bro.
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Joe
Both of them was pooped.
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Debo
Hey, he was. He was. Hey,
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Joe
Johnny. Yeah. Finish him.
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Debo
It's like he about to gas out.
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Joe
Yeah.
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Debo
And then, look, he might have gassed
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Joe
out after he hit your man Bob. I'm like, what? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm like, he was on top of you just drumming, boy, your head. You had to stop it, bro.
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Debo
His face was. Did you see him afterwards?
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Joe
His whole forehead was just lit, bro. Yes, it looked like he, like, felt. It looked like he had, like, a little motorcycle accident. Like he hit the concrete, bruh. His face was a little scratched up, bruh.
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Debo
Did you see the.
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Joe
Go ahead. Please tell me you're gonna say which one.
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Debo
I'm talking Stevenson and Beasley fight.
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Joe
Okay? Yes, I did see the. Michael Beasley.
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Debo
I ain't gonna lie. The first couple seconds when Beasley was throwing the hands, I was like.
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Joe
Beasley wanted to stay on feet.
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Debo
I was like, he might get that word.
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Joe
Yes. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's the UFC element of it, of you will get choked. It's not just boxing. You get kicked in the head, you can get kneed. And when somebody gets you in the. In the near record, in the near naked, whatever, the sleeper hold, he ain't.
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Debo
Get him in a real naked choke, man. He charged him. He got him down, bro.
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Debo
Dude, did you see his face when he was trying to hold on to that boy head up under there? Because he knew as soon as he got up from under that man, he knew it was over.
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Joe
He knew it was depot. See, that's what I'm saying. Not me. I'm not getting out there. I'm not getting deadlocked. No, sir. I'm too old for that, man. My dog's out there getting it in. But the la. Did you see Ray J. Bruh? Debo. Debo.
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Debo
Listen, bro, I'm trying to. I'm still trying to figure it out. Listen, I saw. I saw him hit him with the right, right? But he hit him down here, right here. And he got a knot on his forehead. How you.
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Joe
On his forehead, a big joint in
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Debo
the face underneath your chin to get a knot?
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Joe
You tell me this right now. You tell me this right now, Debo. Why? When he got hit, I thought my TV started lagging because he just. I said, oh,
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Debo
it Got the grab in the jaw.
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Joe
I said, oh, my God. He stunned. He stunned. No, my TV froze. That shit.
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Debo
Said, wow.
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Joe
He said. I said, oh, my goodness, is he gonna fall? Then he started falling forward and grabbed him. He said, oh, that one wish, my man. The funniest. So hard, bro. Super hot.
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Debo
Hit him so hard it ain't even registered for a couple.
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Joe
It didn't register. He didn't know what happened. That don't hit him. It didn't compute. Boop.
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Debo
Oh, he hit me.
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Joe
His whole body just said, nope, nope, not right now, bro.
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Debo
Boom.
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Joe
Debo. That was hilarious. Did you. Debo. Did you hear what he was saying?
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Debo
He was like, bro, he wasn't going.
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Joe
Come on, bruh. We in cahoots, bruh. You gonna really don't want to say nothing.
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Debo
Get nobody in trouble to get nobody in trouble.
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Joe
But, hey.
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Debo
Damn.
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Joe
Really, bruh.
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Debo
Hey, listen, bro, I'm trying to tell you. Don't go out there fighting nobody with a plan that y' all think y' all go work together.
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Joe
Don't go out there and rob a bank.
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Debo
Once he getting that. Once one person gets hurt or hit, period. Hit. Soon as somebody get hit, that plan going out the window. They swinging. Haymakers.
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Joe
Everybody got a plan until. Because. Because. High five was skipping around. He wasn't even trying to fight for real. And Ray J was throwing him. Hitting them. You know what I'm saying? And then he threw one Yum. And took off his WI fi.
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Debo
When he hit him, boy, that whole thing that. It rebooted, rebooted.
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Joe
The little circle thing started going on, was dial up, dial up.
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Debo
That was.
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Joe
Heard it.
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Debo
Yo, He just hit me,
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Joe
bro. That was crazy. He was talking about, you know, not to rob a bank with Ray J. I'm trying to tell you.
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Debo
He telling.
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Joe
He saying, bro. Really? To me, Willie. Hey, we had. He said, bro. He said, we lost tonight, bro.
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Debo
We lost. Hell, no. You lost.
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Joe
You lost tonight.
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Debo
He said, hey, he sound like you, Joe. We lost tonight. Nah, you lost, bro.
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Joe
No, man, you lost tonight. That was actually hilarious, Joe.
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Debo
Oh, man, look here.
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Joe
I thought Johnny came through. What's up, John?
- [26:10]
Debo
Yeah, Johnny came through for sure. For sure. Look here, man. This is what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, this is Nicks. This portside tickets listed at 595,000 for the NBA Finals. The Knicks are one win away from making it. Well, they gonna win tonight. We already know that, so. And when it come down to it, it's. They said already for the. It's two tickets courtside and Madison Square Garden. That are listed at $595,000. Who is buying that ticket?
- [26:46]
Joe
Joe, man.
- [26:48]
Debo
This is what I'm talking about. That's why they can't win.
- [26:52]
Joe
That's why. Yes. That is crazy work. They said two of them. Two? No, no, row three. Row three already sold for 139,000 for one ticket. So it's two of them for like 280,000 for row three. And they already sold. Not even on the floor. You're not even on the court. You're not. Your feet aren't on the wood. Those numbers is crazy. But I mean, if. If you can get it, you can get it. I mean, you can go.
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- [27:27]
Joe
I'm not. I don't know who's buying that ticket, Debo. I don't know who bought $138,000 ticket. That's crazy. Numbers. But somebody. I mean, I don't know. People getting to it right now. That's just that, that, that's. That's crazy. But $139,000 is crazy for a ticket.
- [27:45]
Debo
Ain't nobody gonna be at that game, bro.
- [27:46]
Joe
Brother, that game's gonna be sold out.
- [27:49]
Debo
Not at595,000 for two.
- [27:51]
Joe
I'll tell you this. It's gonna.
- [27:52]
Debo
Who is paying that, bro?
- [27:54]
Joe
It's not. It might not sell for this. It might not sell for this. Because the tickets. The tickets are actually probably only. These are all aftermarket tickets. So it's only worth what somebody's willing to pay. That's the crazy part. So the tickets on probably 15. 15,000. 20,000 for the court size on a. On a base value, man.
- [28:18]
Debo
How much a ticket going for in Cleveland right now? $5 floor seats.
- [28:22]
Joe
How dare you? The cash tickets, bro. It's no like right now. I would say they can go 54 size 75. 10.
- [28:32]
Debo
$10?
- [28:33]
Joe
No, 10,000.
- [28:35]
Debo
Ain't nobody paying 10,000 to go out there and watch them.
- [28:37]
Joe
And everybody's there. All the seats are sold out. Yes, it's happening. When it was. When it was last, when it was the finals games, the tickets was 25. Like 25 to 30. Whoa, 30,000 for the court size back in 2016 when Brown was there.
- [28:52]
Debo
Well, yeah, that was.
- [28:53]
Joe
And when you go to Golden State, Golden State was selling theirs. Did it. It was a hundred, 100 something to get in Golden States. So people are paying it. Those they got. That's, you know, we watch or I'll tolerate my man. Then I got to get him a ticket value. I'm trying to get ticket value. I can't be spending that.
- [29:11]
Debo
Hell no.
- [29:13]
Joe
The ticket value.
- [29:14]
Debo
What? For one night, then ticket.
- [29:17]
Joe
But I'm talking about like ticket with the, with the discount. Get my, you know, friendly. I can't. You know what I'm saying? Not. Nothing. Nothing crazy.
- [29:24]
Debo
595,000.
- [29:25]
Joe
No.
- [29:26]
Debo
Hours.
- [29:26]
Joe
Why?
- [29:27]
Debo
What?
- [29:27]
Joe
Who?
- [29:28]
Debo
No. For what? I don't understand. No.
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- [30:15]
Stefano Pallard
Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
- [30:20]
Malcolm Glebel
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- [30:42]
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You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
- [30:55]
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- [34:13]
Joe
I'm with you, Debo. I'm Neither am I. Neither am I, bro.
- [34:18]
Debo
I could have 50 billion. I ain't paying that.
- [34:20]
Joe
But this is the other part too though. So most of these like yeah, the $595,000 Debo, I can't understand it. That is an astronomical amount of money. But it's only what somebody's willing to pay. So somebody had the courtside tickets. They what's up?
- [34:38]
Debo
What's the most you would pay for? Y' all about to sweep New York. You courtside, you about to sweep New York.
- [34:45]
Joe
Most hours, man.
- [34:46]
Debo
Go to the to go to the Cavs, verse?
- [34:49]
Joe
No, I'm gonna. Cavs, verse. Golden State, you know what I'm saying? In Cleveland, Game seven, finals, I'm paying for. Because me and my lady, because she probably gonna want to go, too. So I'm going. I know Dan and them, they gonna look out. They looked out. They look out for me for doing the finals. But if it was no lookout, we going straight game seven.
- [35:16]
Debo
What's going. You a fan? You ain't got. You don't know nobody, man.
- [35:19]
Joe
Right now. I'm going. All right, all right. I'm at the. This is. This is business I'm going to do. I could do 20. I'll do 20 a ticket. Yep.
- [35:33]
Debo
So is that.
- [35:36]
Joe
Is that love that, Joe? Is that love, Debo? Can I say love?
- [35:40]
Debo
Christmas?
- [35:41]
Joe
Can I say bruh?
- [35:42]
Debo
20. 40. 40, Joe.
- [35:45]
Joe
That's just once in a lifetime. That's once in a lifetime.
- [35:48]
Debo
40, Joe.
- [35:48]
Joe
I go 40 for the lifetime. What?
- [35:55]
Debo
Joe, I can do so much with that. Over a year, you talking about two hours, three hours?
- [36:05]
Joe
How many times we gonna ever make it? That's what I'm looking at.
- [36:09]
Debo
Never again.
- [36:10]
Joe
Lifetime experience. So that's a lifetime experience.
- [36:12]
Debo
Never again. It's something like the Cleveland Browns going to the Super Bowl.
- [36:18]
Joe
That. See, that's something that's not too crazy.
- [36:25]
Debo
What's not too crazy? The Browns going where?
- [36:28]
Joe
The Super Bowl. Well, not. Not this. This season. Saying that this season, that would be crazy. But in the near future, I could see it, especially with the new stadium. Come on, Debo.
- [36:44]
Debo
Yo, we got.
- [36:45]
Joe
What's up?
- [36:47]
Debo
Stop it.
- [36:47]
Joe
We're getting talent. Just keep watching. Just keep watching. Ever since we started this show, we haven't been doing nothing but getting better. First season. Now we're gonna see how many wins we get this season. Watch.
- [37:00]
Debo
You already said y' all getting what, 12?
- [37:04]
Joe
Nah, it's 8 to 10.
- [37:05]
Debo
8 to 10?
- [37:06]
Joe
Yeah.
- [37:07]
Debo
Okay, maybe.
- [37:09]
Joe
Maybe even 11.
- [37:11]
Debo
8 to 10, maybe even 11. That's. That's a big range. Give me something that's.
- [37:17]
Joe
No. Minimum.
- [37:18]
Debo
Worst case, minimum eight.
- [37:20]
Joe
Minimum eight.
- [37:20]
Debo
Minimum eight.
- [37:21]
Joe
Okay. Minimum. Minimum. We go eight, nine, and we'd be like, dang,
- [37:27]
Debo
89. Just.
- [37:29]
Joe
Yeah, that's good.
- [37:31]
Debo
That's a good. That's good progress for y', all, because y'. All.
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Joe
All. Y' all definitely good progress, but it's still not. We wouldn't be happy.
- [37:37]
Debo
Oh, I don't know about that. I kind of felt like I felt happy in your voice when you said eight, nine. I'm just saying. Let's jump into the super chat. We got Mike and Mike, he said, what up, Debo? And Joe, he said, y' all know Burrow could be a bangle for life and put up with all the bungling for the rest of his career. I don't know about that. I think Joe Burrow is a smart individual. I think he could. He could sit back and sort of see the writing on the wall if he gets to that point, which I think it's. It's about to get to. When they don't turn this thing around in the manner in which they thought they would with the players that they acquired, I believe he will see the light that is lacking at the end of the tunnel and realize it's not in a Cincinnati tunnel that you get. Light is only in the Pittsburgh town.
- [38:52]
Joe
Look, only way Joe Burrow is going to be able to get out of there, I don't think they're going to let him out. He's going to have to start acting disgruntled. And I don't want him to start acting disgruntled. I want him to do what he got to do, try to go see what's going on. But that's a franchise quarterback. The Bengals would try to hold him hostage. I don't see why they would ever try to let him go. So he would have to be like, look, I don't want to be here no more. You dudes are not looking out. We're not getting the line. I'm not getting protected. So for the Bengals, there's no reason why they would ever let him go. I'm with you, but if Joe Burrow starts to really act like he wants to go and start, hey, listen,
- [39:29]
Debo
say you not happy, Joe, you need to be protected, and that's it. I need. You gotta. You gotta let me go.
- [39:36]
Joe
But right now, what he's saying, but he's not giving. He's not speaking that tone right now. Right now, I'm liking what we got, but it's showing that they didn't ask him what his input was, so he's not feeling as involved as he should. Like, if you want to be my. If I am the quarterback, I'm thinking that he's always going to be involved in the franchise of seeing what's going on. Do you like the moves, Joe? Okay. They didn't ask him. He's letting them know. I see what y' all did. I wasn't involved. So if it's not good, I think he would have to be like, man, listen, y' all are wild. I don't want to be here no more. I keep getting hit upside the head.
- [40:09]
Debo
Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm just saying, the man said, hey, I ain't got nothing to do with. They done did. But what they done did, they then brought some good players and I like the energy that is over here, so let's do it. What else are you supposed to say, though?
- [40:25]
Joe
You know, if you want to get up out of it, he gotta be like, this, man, ain't give me nobody to protect me. I'm still gonna get hit upside the head. I like them, but damn, you know,
- [40:34]
Debo
we got Shay Rodriguez, 51, 53. $20, said Debo and Joe. Everyone looks at me crazy when I tell them we can have the most anticipated elite offense in the league. Dk, MPJ Dowdle, Warren Washington, Pat Aaron. Tell me, tell my folks they tripping, please. What do you think, Joe?
- [41:05]
Joe
I think that she. She's valid. I don't know why that. This, this. This is something that I believe too. I believe DK Metcalf is. It's just DK. It's DK Metcalf. You know what I'm saying? Pittman Jr. Is a big body that really went out there 1300 yards, you know what I'm saying? Jalen Warren playing with us, man, the baller, Rico Doddle, he did not just go out there and not do that.
- [41:28]
Debo
Two back to back, thousands stop.
- [41:30]
Joe
The biggest tight end, like he's. He's a left tackle that plays tight end, that's jumping over people, stiff arming people. Pat, we didn't get Pat $12 million a year for no reason.
- [41:40]
Debo
And they wasn't even trying to use Pat.
- [41:42]
Joe
They wasn't even trying to let him be. You know what I'm saying? But he was still in the holster, chilling, not making no noise. But every time he got in, he made plays on third down. So when I'm looking at the name, when you name the people. Yes, though we have. There's no reason why when these people go out there and play to their ability that I'm like, when you line them up against other lineups, I like them. I like them a lot. They could be up there for sure. They perform at their, at their, at their abilities. They up there.
- [42:12]
Debo
Listen, I'm just saying that's what we got over here. Burrow. That's what we got over here. Understand you got an affinity to, you know, maybe a couple receivers over there.
- [42:22]
Joe
But, you know, look, we're tasting.
- [42:25]
Debo
It's a possibility we can get One. We ain't gonna lie and say we. Where we can get two of them
- [42:31]
Joe
bring. I don't bring any either. One bring Jamal Chase, hopefully. That'd be crazy.
- [42:37]
Debo
No, I'm just saying.
- [42:39]
Joe
Whoever. All right.
- [42:40]
Debo
Covenant Life back. She said seeing other football players test themselves on Special Forces. Would either of you ever consider doing that? And what part do you think would be tougher? The physical grind or the mental challenge? Manziel did okay out there. They got some type of Special Forces thing where you go through, like, the Special Forces training or something.
- [43:08]
Joe
Yeah. Have you seen it?
- [43:10]
Debo
I did not see it.
- [43:11]
Joe
Oh, man. You gotta watch. They got a couple of seasons, and it's. It's cool. It's actually really good show. My boy Randall Cobb was on the joint. That's my. My wife.
- [43:20]
Debo
Okay, so would you do it?
- [43:23]
Joe
But I do it, Debo. No, I think back in the day, I could have did it, but right now, it's. Right now it's more of the mental for me. Like, I think I could do. I could do the physical stuff, but it's like, I don't want to go through that stuff right now. I mean, I think I could do it, but I'm like. I like chilling. I like peace. It's just a lot of. A lot of hard work. I think I could have done it back in the day, I don't think. I just don't want to do that. I just don't see myself wanting to put myself through that right now. Like, I feel like. Like training camps and going through all of those two A days, the mat drills, I'm like this. I know I had it in me, but right now I'm really liking, just chilling, you know what I'm saying? I like watching it, seeing my boys go and see who could do it. Cause that's good work.
- [44:11]
Debo
Hey, hey, hey, hey. We gotta come back to Shay. We gotta come back to Shay. He came back. He. He. Shay is a dude. He said, I'm a dude, y'. All.
- [44:21]
Joe
Oh, my bad.
- [44:22]
Debo
You guys. Appreciate you.
- [44:24]
Joe
That's me.
- [44:26]
Debo
I'm bad. All right. Covenant. I'm tell you right now, look here, I am not doing that. I do not have the desire to do it. I'm too old. It's a lot of things that I probably would have did. You know, when I was younger, this. This definitely, you know, could have been one of those things, you know, to try and, you know, prove something. Actually, this is as recent as last year. They wanted me to pull a damn aircraft, One of those big a plane A dude. But the. But the. I'm talking about the like the refueler. Like one of those big ass fuellers. I'm like, what? Hell no. I see. No, bruh, they trying. They trying. They trying to get me to break a world record. I'm like, no, I'm gonna break everything in my body. I got a world record. Have you ever tried yard interception return? Yes. To the house in the super bowl player of the year to ever have one. It ain't been one since.
- [45:46]
Joe
I'm good.
- [45:47]
Debo
You?
- [45:48]
Joe
Yeah, maybe the maybe younger Debo.
- [45:51]
Debo
Hey, I ain't gonna lie. That that other dude that did. Yeah, him. Yeah, him. Oh, he would have showed him off.
- [45:58]
Joe
The brown and the white. Oh yeah, you would have pulled that. You would have pulled a couple planes.
- [46:03]
Debo
Hey. Hey.
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- [46:37]
Joe
Hello?
- [46:37]
Malcolm Glebel
Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.
- [46:48]
Stefano Pallard
Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.
- [46:54]
Malcolm Glebel
I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfan in the digital age.
- [47:04]
Stefano Pallard
Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team.
- [47:15]
Malcolm Glebel
You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.
- [47:29]
Stefano Pallard
When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.
- [47:37]
Malcolm Glebel
To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.com Ferrari
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- [48:23]
Martha (Kohler Ambassador)
When Kohler, the global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, came to me and said, martha, we need an ambassador for our timeless, elegant, durable cast iron products. I said, I'm in. Now let me see the factory. Weeks later, I was suited up in coveralls and work boots, walking through their Kohler, Wisconsin cast iron foundry. I stood next to the molten iron furnace, saw the hand applying enamel and touched the gorgeous finished products waiting to be sent out into the world. Since 1883, Kohler cast iron products have been forged and finished by the incredible craftspeople right in Kohler, Wisconsin. I'll tell you, I gained a newfound respect and appreciation for Kohler's cast iron craftsmanship. So now I'm lending my discerning stamp of approval to my most beloved Kohler cast iron products for their durability, beauty and timelessness. Shop my Kohler Cast Iron favorites curated on Kohler.com bring the warmth, character and enduring style of these timeless products into your kitchens and bathrooms. As the Kohler Cast Iron Ambassador, I say, long live Cast Iron.
- [49:45]
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- [50:46]
Debo
ain't gonna lie to you though. I called my trainer. I said hey, you think I could pull whatever it was? You know? He's like well is it, is it, is it you know, is it. Whatever, whatever. I'm like, it's gonna be a real record if I pull it, though. He's like, huh? He was like, dude, there's something like 300 and something. Thousand pounds, dude, like 200. It's crazy weight, bro. Yeah. Like, getting it started. He was like, it's gonna be the problem. But if you get it started to be all right, I'm gonna pop everything on me getting this started.
- [51:16]
Joe
Yeah. Okay. Okay. See, I. Look, I. I think I believe in you, Debo.
- [51:21]
Debo
Hey, listen, I think you could do it because the way. Listen, I didn't believe in the work I was gonna have to do to try and to pull it.
- [51:29]
Joe
Would you have to. You had to gain some weight too, huh, bruh?
- [51:33]
Debo
You gotta gain weight. Muscle. I'd have. Man, I wouldn't have a shot right now at 255. I had to go back to 308 and hope. And hope my body hold up, man. Brush. It's snapping. Yeah, I feel it right now. Just on the. Just the thought of pressing, bruh. I never did an Achilles or. Man, I feel that.
- [51:53]
Joe
See, if you're thinking about it, good thing. Don't do it. Don't do it.
- [51:57]
Debo
That's why I do.
- [51:58]
Joe
Listen, that's the last thing I need.
- [51:59]
Debo
I don't do nothing competitive where I have to adjust to somebody else's movements. I know what's going on when I'm lifting this weight. I know where it's gonna be. I know where I'm supposed to put it. I know what's going on when I'm walking on this treadmill. I know what's going on when I incline. I know all that. I am not adjusting to somebody else's adjustments because my body don't. It don't. It don't operate that way no more like that. Me too much like that, Joe.
- [52:24]
Joe
Me too. I'm more of a cardio. Cardio dumbbells bands doing.
- [52:32]
Debo
You stretching that hip.
- [52:34]
Joe
Yep. You already know. Soon I leave out here. I'm stretching that hip.
- [52:37]
Debo
Okay. Okay. Coming to life, back again. She said, $20. She said, how you doing, Joe? Is the season over for your sons, Joe? Have you ever just been out, See a stranger. I don't know what that is. And say, how can I bless you today? Have you ever been. Have you, Joe? Have you ever just been out? See a stranger. Okay. And see.
- [53:08]
Joe
Yeah.
- [53:09]
Debo
How can I bless you today? James asked me.
- [53:15]
Joe
Glad you asked. Glad you asked.
- [53:18]
Debo
Lol Highsmith will be at the Steelers hers place. Hers still. Hers Please come. What's. Oh, the Steelers. The girls.
- [53:32]
Joe
Hers. The girl. The event. Highsmith is going to be there. Please come. Debo and me. Have I ever said, have a blessed. How can I bless your day? I don't think I ever just walked up to a stranger and said, how can I bless your day? But I know for sure I've been trying to bless a lot of people's days by. I go pay for a lot of people's tabs. You know, we're at done dinner. Lunch. We're at the bars. Normally, I just pay for people's stuff and then not try to say nothing. You just walk off on it.
- [54:03]
Debo
I do, yes.
- [54:03]
Joe
Walk all the time. I don't want them to know. I'll just be like this, please. And then, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't even want interaction and be like, hey, you know what I'm saying?
- [54:13]
Debo
Like, they look at you, but they don't come over and talk to you. I'm like, all right. Hey, hit they tab. Yeah, they tab, too.
- [54:20]
Joe
I try to do that.
- [54:21]
Debo
I'm like, you didn't bother me. I'm gonna pay you tab. Just trying to eat. You know what I'm saying?
- [54:27]
Joe
Yep. Any kids at the concession stand? When I'm at the concession stands at my son's games, everybody's eating for free. All these little kids. Get what you want real quick.
- [54:35]
Debo
Well, you got it like that, Joe. I can't do all that.
- [54:37]
Joe
I'm just saying I like to. Really.
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Debo
And I got to make, you know, like, I can't be doing that at, you know, restaurants you go to. I gotta make sure when I do that, I'm sitting down at, like, you know, like, Chili's or Applebee's or something, you know?
- [54:52]
Joe
Yeah.
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Debo
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. I know. The bill ain't gonna be no more than 34, you know, Debo, you are. Otherwise, I'm gonna have a hot face. I'm gonna be in that. Like, what they did. How much would you.
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Joe
Hey, you know what?
- [55:06]
Debo
Tell them I got half of it.
- [55:07]
Joe
You know what I. You know what I know, though? You know what I know about a lot of rich people, too. Just because you have a lot of money don't mean you spend a lot of money. And that's. That's what it is in your case.
- [55:17]
Debo
What are you talking about, Joe? I ain't got no money.
- [55:19]
Joe
Got it.
- [55:20]
Debo
But you don't spend it unless you
- [55:22]
Joe
want to on the things that you want to spend it on, so I don't know when I got it. You keep talking, you keep on talking about speaking. Because I got two chains. I got two chains. I got this chain and I got another chain. And I ain't gonna lose my chains. I love my chains.
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Debo
I ain't got no chain.
- [55:38]
Joe
Yep.
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Debo
This most okay I got is this oil ring.
- [55:43]
Joe
Why do you lie? What else? Not gonna call you out, bro. It's all good. Depot you my good man.
- [55:53]
Debo
Listen, wine, food don't count.
- [55:56]
Joe
Okay? You're right.
- [55:59]
Debo
All right.
- [55:59]
Joe
You're right. That's the main.
- [56:00]
Debo
I gotta eat, I gotta drink.
- [56:02]
Joe
Yeah, you do.
- [56:03]
Debo
You gotta drink, eat and drink.
- [56:05]
Joe
Gotta drink. You don't gotta drink water.
- [56:09]
Debo
I'm a die. Dehydration water all the time. It's some sometimes good to have a little bit of red wine.
- [56:20]
Joe
Yep. Mm.
- [56:22]
Debo
For your blood flow.
- [56:25]
Joe
Yep. Couple thousand dollar bottles.
- [56:31]
Debo
I'm trying to live, Joe. I know, I heard. I don't know if this is true. This is the only reason I did it because I heard, like, the better the wine, the probably the more expensive it is and then the better you feel.
- [56:43]
Joe
Yeah, a glass a day, probably. Maybe with dinner.
- [56:47]
Debo
I mean, I ain't gonna lie sometimes. I mean, off season sometimes I might've did a bottle a day.
- [56:53]
Joe
Yeah, you know? Cause you know you can. Cause you got a lot of weight.
- [56:57]
Debo
I had a lot of weight. I got a lot of fluids. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta hydrate.
- [57:01]
Joe
Gotta hydrate. Are you drinking water also?
- [57:06]
Debo
Yes.
- [57:07]
Joe
That one. That wine is definitely not hydrating you.
- [57:10]
Debo
This is what I do. This is what I do. A glass of wine. A liter of water. Glass of wine, Liter of water.
- [57:17]
Joe
Oh, okay. Yes. You good?
- [57:21]
Debo
That's what I do, Joe.
- [57:22]
Joe
Oh, yeah, you good.
- [57:25]
Debo
I know you gotta. You gotta be somewhere tonight.
- [57:29]
Joe
Yeah.
- [57:30]
Debo
Game four, eight o'.
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Joe
Clock. Yeah.
- [57:31]
Debo
Cleveland, right? Are you. Are you gonna be there? Because I'm, I'm. I'm actually probably going to just come because I got some people there that got seats anyway in this court side too, so they got season tickets. What time you getting there, Joe?
- [57:47]
Joe
I hope I don't see you there, but in the case that I did.
- [57:51]
Debo
Wow, that's crazy because you're not going to see you there.
- [57:55]
Joe
You know why? The only reason why I say that, because you're not gonna. You tell me how you really feel. I'm gonna be sitting there watching you hope that we lose the whole time. And that's not fun. I want to be sitting there with somebody like, my man's like, come On Cass, genuinely, you looking at me like this. I see you. You're gonna be laughing, and I'm gonna be like this. It's really not funny.
- [58:15]
Debo
It's crazy how you got all this love for these strangers, but for your own. Your own homeboy, you know what I'm saying? Supposed to be my brother. See, that's me.
- [58:25]
Joe
I got love for you. You don't even have a dog in the fight, and you still laughing at me. You supposed to be my dog. You ain't got no dog in the fight. I got a dog in the fight, and you gonna. Anybody that's not my dog.
- [58:36]
Debo
Where you gonna be sitting at? Chat wanna know where you gonna be sitting at, man. They wanna watch you on tv.
- [58:39]
Joe
You know where Jody at, man. You know where I'm at? Courtside, Jody, man.
- [58:43]
Debo
Courtside. Where at? Where? Where at?
- [58:46]
Joe
You gonna catch me? The cab side?
- [58:48]
Debo
Cab side right next to him.
- [58:49]
Joe
Cab side right next to him.
- [58:51]
Debo
Okay. Behind him or in front of him or on the side of them.
- [58:53]
Joe
I'm gonna either be on the side of them where the bench is, like, under the hoop, or I'm okay to the side of them where coach is, where he walking across. I might tap him in. Like, who. Who's subbing in? So I'm being one of the two.
- [59:04]
Debo
Okay, okay. So you gonna be letting. Okay, okay. Yeah.
- [59:08]
Joe
Y' all gonna see me. Watch.
- [59:09]
Debo
Okay, listen, this is all I want to know.
- [59:16]
Joe
What's up, buddy?
- [59:18]
Debo
When they get down by 20 in the fourth quarter, are you staying through the whole game?
- [59:24]
Joe
Yep. If they. It's going to be. I got to send them off now. If we down by 20, I just can't roll out early. Nah, man, they fought the good fight. I'm not going to send my dogs off like y' all are just trash. Y' all got swept. It is what it is. But you know what? I'm sweet. Guess what? I still got my jersey on. All these other teams, all 28 other teams, Boston fans, they've been. They've been at Cancun.
- [59:50]
Debo
Joe. Joe.
- [59:51]
Joe
You know what I'm saying? Nah. No.
- [59:53]
Debo
With the moral victory.
- [59:55]
Joe
It's only one. It's only one winner.
- [59:57]
Debo
It's only one winner every year. Everybody else.
- [60:00]
Joe
Everybody else is a loser. Everybody else is a loser. All right. But they fought the good fight.
- [60:08]
Debo
They fought the good.
- [60:09]
Joe
Still fighting. We still fighting. We ain't going out like we still fighting. I'm gonna see them tonight.
- [60:14]
Debo
Yeah, they fought. You had it right. They fought the good fight. It's over with. They about to go in here and get and get and get walked all over.
- [60:22]
Joe
Ain't nobody even talking all over.
- [60:25]
Debo
Look here. Ladies and gentlemen, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Jibo and Joe. So please make sure you, like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Joe.
- [60:39]
Joe
Yes, make sure I like subscribe and see y' all tomorrow. As my calves just try to not get the. As we try to not get. If you don't do it for anybody, Cleveland, do it for the land. Do it for the ones that love you. Do it for Jody. Do it for the city. Do it for West 6.
- [60:59]
Debo
Do it for yourself.
- [61:02]
Joe
Do it for downtown. Do it for Euclid.
- [61:05]
Debo
Make sure y' all clean, everybody.
- [61:06]
Joe
Do it for the city. Come on, Cleveland, just don't get us out. Come on, man.
- [61:10]
Debo
Yeah.
- [61:11]
Joe
Show us that you care. Show us that you care. Hey, let's go.
- [61:14]
Debo
Here we are.
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