Nightcap Hour 1: NBA Stands on NO CALL for Wemby’s PUSH on Brunson + Stephon Marbury Sends WARNING to Wemby + Shannon is FURIOUS at Knicks Fans + Dylan Harper’s UNCONVENTIONAL Motivation + Dylan Harper: Shooting in MSG is EASY

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Nightcap Hour 1 Detailed Summary

Podcast: Nightcap – Shay Shay Media & Playmaker
Episode: Hour 1: NBA Stands on NO CALL for Wemby’s PUSH on Brunson + Stephon Marbury Sends WARNING to Wemby + Shannon is FURIOUS at Knicks Fans + Dylan Harper’s UNCONVENTIONAL Motivation + Dylan Harper: Shooting in MSG is EASY
Air Date: June 10, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson

Episode Overview

This spirited episode unpacks the fallout from Game 3 of the 2026 NBA Finals, with a focus on the NBA’s decision not to upgrade Victor Wembanyama’s shove on Jalen Brunson, a stern warning from Stephon Marbury, and explosive reactions to viral videos of Knicks fans attacking Spurs supporters. The crew also discusses unconventional forms of athlete motivation and debates whether Madison Square Garden is really a tough place to shoot.
True to form, Shannon, Ochocinco, and Joe keep the discussion unfiltered, lively, and full of laughs—while calling out what they see as the best and worst behaviors in the sports world.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Acknowledgments and Chemistry Among Hosts

[04:00–08:00]

• The host trio express gratitude to fans for their ongoing support and recent awards.
  • Shannon: “All the success that we've been able to enjoy thus far… is all because of you. All because of your eyes, because of your ears, and your word of mouth.” (05:49)
• The addition of Joe Johnson is called a "game-changer" for the podcast's dynamic.

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2. NBA Stance on Wembanyama’s Shove on Brunson

[08:57–13:05]

• NBA announced no further sanctions on Victor Wembanyama for his first-quarter shove on Jalen Brunson—no upgrade to a flagrant foul.
• Joe Johnson: “I thought it was the right call, man. Listen, ref ain't gonna call every damn thing…” (09:28)
• Discussion of physicality in the Finals and the unwritten rule that players have to stand up for themselves.
• Shannon on retaliation and standing up to bullying:
  • “The Bible, they say, turn the other cheek. Well, I ain't got but two. After you slap both of them, I got the fire back on your ass.” (11:44)
• Consensus: Title games are refereed with caution, but persistent roughness will eventually get punished.

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3. Stephon Marbury’s “Warning” to Wembanyama

[13:36–15:09, 18:23–21:45]

• Stephon Marbury, former Knicks guard, sends a strong warning about international (i.e., “dirty”) play and promises hard retaliation next game:
  • Marbury audio (paraphrased): “You better believe somebody gonna pop him in the ribs next game.” (14:07)
• The hosts debate whether “dirty” play is an international thing, pointing out that American-born players have plenty of rough stuff in their resumes (Bill Laimbeer, Draymond Green, Dylan Brooks).
  • Joe Johnson: “Everybody got a little dirtiness in them… them foreigners… they kinda got it in a different way... they sneaky.” (20:39)
• They break down “message sending” in physical series, noting that hard fouls are a part of play-off basketball justice.

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4. Physicality, Mentality, and Message Sending in the Finals

[21:45–25:25]

• Wembanyama’s assertiveness is seen as a tone-setter for his young team.
• Shannon: “Women say, y'all look at me, and I'm 7'5", and you know, I'm smiling… but y'all take my kindness for weakness... Everybody got a breaking point.” (24:31)
• The group reminisces about playground and locker room codes—if you allow yourself to get bullied, it won’t stop until you stand up.
• Host banter about family wisdom, with Shannon relating wisdom from his grandma: “Son, don't make me hurt you… Don’t put. Don't push me to that point…” (25:25)

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5. Retaliation and Locker Room Justice

[25:27–30:17]

• The crew discusses the fine line between sticking up for teammates and crossing the line.
• Ochocinco: “My get back may be a little more than what you did to me. You can’t tell me how to get you back.” (27:54)
• Importance of choosing the right player for retaliatory fouls in a playoff series (“You don’t want it to be Josh Hart or OG Anunoby, but you gotta send a message.”) (30:01)
• Expectation set that Wemby will get a “good hard foul” from a Knick, but not one egregious enough to get ejected. (30:05)

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6. Knicks Fans’ Outrage and Viral Violence in Manhattan

[33:52–44:43]

• Viral videos of Knicks fans attacking anyone in Spurs jerseys after the loss cause Shannon to go off:
  • Shannon: “That's pathetic.” (34:31)
  • “They call themselves Knicks fans, but they're hoodlums. You behave like this, it's unacceptable.” (36:08)
• Joe Johnson calls them “Knicks hooligans… trying to get some clicks.” (34:38)
• Ben Stiller and Jamal Crawford’s tweets are cited, both condemning the violence and calling for respect.
  • Shannon: “If somebody hits you over the head with a crowbar, if somebody opens your ass up… you deserve it.” (38:16)
• Extended riff on fan ethics, why mob mentality takes over, and the dangers of turning a loss into violence.
• Shannon and Joe both reflect on not going out after games due to this “mob” behavior.
• The hosts share stories of wild crowds at Raiders games and old school NBA playoff venues like Utah (“The Last Dance!”).

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7. Social Media, Virality, and Mob Mentality

[44:43–47:14]

• The rise of social media is seen as a driver for bad public behavior.
  • Joe Johnson: “We're in a different time to where everybody's looking to go viral, bro. And they would do anything...” (41:05)
  • “Everybody ain't meant to get 15 [minutes]. And 15 don't do nothing for you but get you effed up, you get the wrong one.” (42:11)
• Call for self-restraint and common sense—leave people and their property alone.

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8. Athlete Motivation: Dylan Harper’s “Unconventional” Fuel

[47:51–50:01]

• Story: Dylan Harper says his sister threatened to steal his dogs if the Spurs lost Game 3—a new motivational tactic.
  • Shannon: “Somebody in your family come and say they come to steal your dogs? Yeah, that's very unconventional.” (48:27)
• The crew riffs on the sometimes wild reasons athletes get themselves amped up for big games.
• (Laughter, joking, double entendre about home/family motivation)

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9. Is It Harder to Shoot in an Empty Gym or Madison Square Garden?

[57:28–61:59]

• Prompt: Dylan Harper claims shooting in an empty gym might be harder than shooting at MSG.
• Joe Johnson: “I didn’t find it hard to shoot in Madison Square Garden. They had good rims… It’s almost like a stage. It’s an amazing atmosphere to play in, I ain’t gonna lie to you.” (58:02–58:59)
• The group explains that shooting in MSG is special—good shooters' rims, great lighting, “the Mecca.”
• Discussion on depth perception in big arenas vs. smaller gyms/college courts.
  • Shannon: “That’s the biggest thing for March Madness… your depth perception, you’re like, ‘damn’…” (59:03)
  • Joe: “In an empty gym, you know, ain’t no pressure in that. It’s just you in the ball.” (60:13)
• The magnitude of the moment can make even pros ignore celebrities like Jay-Z in the stands: “I might dap you up in the regular season… But if it’s a playoff, I’m locked in.” (61:41)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The Bible say, turn the other cheek. Well, I ain't got but two. After you slap both of them, I got the fire back on your ass.”
  – Shannon Sharpe on retaliation (11:44)
• “Everybody got a little dirtiness in them… but them foreigners, they sneaky. Then they’ll try to help you up after they do it.”
  – Joe Johnson (20:39)
• “They call themselves Knicks fans, but they're hoodlums. You behave like this, it's unacceptable.”
  – Shannon Sharpe, on viral Knicks fan violence (36:08)
• “If somebody hits you over the head with a crowbar, if somebody opens your ass up… you deserve it.”
  – Shannon Sharpe, furious at postgame attacks (38:16)
• “We're in a different time… Everybody's looking to go viral, bro. And they would do anything to get a viral clip.”
  – Joe Johnson (41:05)
• “I didn’t find it hard to shoot in Madison Square Garden… good rims, amazing atmosphere… it’s almost like a stage.”
  – Joe Johnson (58:02–58:59)

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Important Timestamps

• [08:57] – NBA announces no additional sanctions for Wembanyama's shove
• [13:44] – Stephon Marbury’s warning to Wemby
• [33:52] – Knicks fan violence after Game 3
• [36:08] – Shannon’s condemnation of “hoodlum” fan behavior
• [47:51] – Dylan Harper’s unconventional motivation: threatened dogs
• [57:28] – Dylan Harper on shooting at MSG vs. empty gyms
• [58:02] – Joe Johnson’s take on shooting at the Garden

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Tone & Vibe

• Raw, unfiltered locker-room-style sports talk
• Heavy doses of humor, authenticity, and cultural commentary
• Blend of sports analysis and old-school life wisdom; plenty of side tangents and playful ribbing

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This hour immerses listeners in the culture of NBA Finals intensity—on the court and in the streets—with frank, at times furious, reflections on sportsmanship, fan behavior, and how athletes (and all people) respond to provocation. It’s a masterclass in real-talk sports banter, featuring everything from strategic breakdowns and psychological insights to wild stories and hard-earned wisdom.

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Transcript

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[D]

No, I. I said something earlier. I want to thank all of you. What you don't understand is, is how important you guys are. You know, either meat and potatoes or what makes this thing go. You know, without you guys, none of this would be possible. And I sincerely, sincerely thank each and every one of you. And I also want to apologize for my cursing. I am in therapy for that. For those who it offends that time, just. Just. Just bear with me. Things better in that area.

[C]

Hey, hey.

[A]

I want to.

[C]

I want to thank the fans. You know, ever since I've joined you guys, man, listen, things been looking on up and up.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You know, I. Hey, hey, hey. I just try to keep y' all in line. All right. All right.

[A]

Yeah, I'm just trying. I'm just trying. I'm trying to be number one. I'm trying to get to the freakiest spot. Joe, right now that's occupied by Ocho and Joe. So I'm just gonna keep doing what I do, just keep my head down, plugging away. That's all I'm gonna do.

[C]

Hey, hey, I tell you what, let's keep heading the right trajectory, you know, let's see what this thing can get to.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, man. And, you know, we can't thank you enough, Joe, because like I said, you know, we. We looking for a basketball, somebody that can fill in. And. And we had Gil the first year, and then Junior, and then all of a sudden, we didn't have Anybody. And. And thanks to you liking some of us, some of some of our videos and things like that. And we reached out and to your representative, and they was like, yeah, he would love to be a part of this thing. And. And here we are what we thought was going to just be, you know, a. A basketball, basically during the basketball season, turning something full time. And so we can't thank you enough for joining us. We can't thank you enough for the dedication and the work that you put into it to help us become the best podcast, the best sports podcast, one of the best podcasts on YouTube. And that's all because of you and your hard work. So thank you again for joining us, and thank you for making it possible. And the fans have been very, very receptive.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Thank these fans enough either. Can't.

[C]

We came, man. We can't. I appreciate y', all, man. I appreciate it.

[D]

Just because I'm giving you these goddamn flowers, don't think I ain't gonna jump on your ass when I see you, huh?

[C]

Hey, hey, I'm trying. I'm trying to be cool, bro. Sure ain't really got started yet. You already.

[D]

I just want to make sure, you know, Joe, we don't want two awards. And part of those awards is because, you know, you coming on here, man, and I appreciate you. You know, I'm showing you gratitude, but that don't mean nothing. That's two separate, separate things, huh?

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

Thank you for what you've done for us, but I'm still gonna beat your ass.

[C]

Hey, if I don't do nothing else, I'm gonna make it my business partner. I'm gonna make it my business to see about you.

[A]

Yeah. I promise you. I promise you.

[C]

Hey, chat, Chad. I promise, y'. All. I tell you what mean demonstration. He already know how it's going.

[D]

Okay, I'll tell you what. I'm email you. I'm gonna email you, huh? Because I want. I want to make sure we keep it professional.

[C]

All right. All right.

[A]

Had a great conversation with Justin Gaethje earlier. We'll air that show. We'll air that at the end of the show. But first. But first, the NBA said there will be no additional sanction on Victor Wimbanyama for his first quarter. Shove on Jalen Brunson in game three. The play is not being upgraded to a flagrant file, meaning Rent Wimby remains on two flagrant foul points this postseason. Joe, did you think it was the right call and did you think it would get upgraded?

[C]

No, I think it would get upgraded. Yeah. I thought it was the right call, man. Listen, hey, ref ain't gonna call every damn thing, man. You know, I, I, I, I mean, I, I feel that, you know, this series has been a bit aggressive, especially towards Wimy. Hell, there's only so much he gonna take, bro, before he give you a little response. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I ain't think I, I'm glad they didn't upgrade it to a flagrant, man. I just think it's two competitors competing, bro. Everybody want to win. Hey, you got to do what you got to do. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ocho. Hey, I'm glad the NBA didn't, Didn't, didn't. Didn't take no different measure. Yeah. Upgraded. I'm glad they didn't. So let's, let's continue.

[A]

Cause remember, earlier in the Minnesota game, Joe, he got the flagrant, too, for the elbow.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, yeah. And I don't know what is it, four or five. If you get four or five flavors, you miss a game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't think anybody wants. I don't see. Because that's. You're going to impact the series.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Even though it impacted the series when he was out of the game against Minnesota. Minnesota won that game. So you don't want to do that. And definitely not the Finals, because you normally err on the side of caution unless there's an. An egregiousness to it, unless they're. You're a repeat offender. And the people that were. They suspended. Draymond, man. Draymond had them been warned and warned and warned about.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

At some point in time, you got to draw the line. Now, I don't want to draw the line in the NBA Finals, but you keep doing this in the NBA Finals. So you don't leave me a choice but to do something like this. I'm not surprised either. Joe Bronson did take offense to it. I'm not so sure. All the. Everybody in MSG that saw it took offense to it. And then when Grussom went to him and put his back in his face, Wimby started smiling. You ever said, yeah, you like that, huh?

[C]

You like that?

[A]

Oh, okay. Just making sure. Just making sure. I had your attention. I wasn't sure I had your attention yet, but.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I see him.

[D]

I got it now. Yes, sir.

[C]

Right. Hey. Hey. We're sitting back saying, yeah, I know how this series gonna be. I know how the playoffs is now. I understand how physical it is. Listen, I'm gonna fight back now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What y' all want me to do? Y' all want me just keep taking all this abuse and. No, I'm gonna fight back.

[D]

He must have learned that with the monks, huh? You know, I ain't never seen the monks really fighting amongst each other.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, the problem that you run into, the Bible, they say, turn the other cheek. Well, I ain't got but two. After you slap both of them, I got the fire back on your ass. Oh. So I. I just got. I gotta let you know that because you keep. Cause, see, a lot of times, if. If you allow people to keep doing something, they're gonna keep doing it. Yep.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

More times than not, people won't naturally stop just effing with you. Say, you know what? I think he or she's had enough. You know what? I'm not gonna do that today.

[C]

Yeah, you.

[A]

Sometimes you got to take matters into your own hand. You don't want to have to do that.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But in order to keep people from a. You keep what we used to call it growing up. Picking. Oh, yeah. Picking on him. Yeah, they call it. They call it bullying now. We used to call it picking.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, you keep picking. Okay. You keep jugging. Yeah, I'm gonna get. You will get exactly what you're looking for. I don't know what it is you're looking for, but you're gonna get it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Women say, you know what? I know the. My mannerism, and you know, I'm French. And y' all already think foreigners are soft, right? So y' all keep playing with me. Y' all think. Y'. All. Y' all think I'm something y' all got for Christmas. And here it is June. Y' all still play who played with the same damn toy? Is that. You got it? December, that you play with me? Say y' all still playing with me. Hey, okay. Don't worry about it. Hold it up. Hold his elbow. And told you about trying to set that hard pick on me.

[C]

That's exactly how it was. Hey, yo, so funny, bro. Hey, but I tell you what, he ain't got no more chance to do no more of that, fellas.

[E]

Oh, no.

[C]

They gonna be on him because you know. You know why? You know the only people who complaining? The Knicks fans. Yes, Knicks fans are only one complaining about that play.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. They. Hey, hey. They want something to be done about it. Yeah, yeah. So they gonna be watching them now. He ain't got. He ain't got no more demonstrative gestures to where he mushing people and putting out. Now, the folks gonna be on him now, Ojo.

[A]

They are. You're right. Former Nick guard Stefan Marburg said a warning shot to Wimby for his shove on Brunson. Let's take a listen. What Marbury had to say.

[D]

Let me give you all some food for thought, okay? I'll tell you something about Wemby.

[A]

Wendy is an international player, okay? They play dirty overseas. Just so you know, we're not used to playing dirty in America. The way how Wemby just now threw Jalen Brunson.

[D]

Now, if I'm watching film and I

[A]

see Wimby throw somebody on my team, if he throws somebody like that the next game, I'm gonna pop him in his. I'm gonna pop him in his rib

[D]

cage so hard with my elbow that

[A]

he's gonna fall and drop to the ground and he's gonna wish he never put his hands on me. Okay? So next game, I guarantee you, after y' all watch that film, what he did to Jalen Brunson, you better know that whoever. Who, whenever he get on a basketball court, you better make sure you put. You better put. You better put that knife in his neck, all right? That's what it's at.

[D]

That's where it's at.

[A]

You see what he did when he came in? He said he was gonna come in. He was gonna win game, too. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. All right? So make sure y' all take note. And next game, you make sure you bring that same energy, all right? Watch this play. This is what frustrated Bron. Oh, whoa. That's. Excuse me. That should be a.

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[A]

I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I

[C]

don't trust much of anything.

[A]

It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

[D]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. It was a bit egregious. It was a bit egregious.

[C]

It's because. It's because when they slow it down and they keep replaying and you keep watching in slow motion, but I'm gonna tell y' all something. Steph, right?

[A]

He's.

[C]

He's absolutely right. Now, they may not do nothing early in the game because the refs gonna be watching, but somebody gonna give his ass a hard foul tomorrow. That's just what it is, bro. You know, because I. I keep seeing the play all day and I know they. They steady running it probably in New York, and I, I think, you know, those players are definitely gonna have Jalen Brunson back. Somebody gonna hard foul him, for sure.

[A]

Oh, yeah, for sure. You got to.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the way it should be, because I know in the NFL you did something to one of our guys. We're gonna get you back.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. We're gonna get you back.

[C]

That's how I am.

[A]

And the thing is, we gonna make it look. It's gonna look like a football play.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Because football. Football is. Is physical assault. That's all football is, guys. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But you want to feel. And you. And.

[C]

And.

[A]

And. And. And they can't. They can't give you an issue. Excitation. They can't arrest you for what you can do to somebody on the damn field.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you best believe, boy, if we saw that and if it was a team that we like, we. Because you can't catch everything, you know, sometimes. You know, the guys will come back and tell you. Sometimes they don't. But if that. Let's just say that's somebody within our division. If somebody had done something to that. Oh, yeah, we got to get you. Yeah. Yeah, we got to get you. Just so you know, you gonna get got.

[C]

Yeah, that's how. That's how I go, though.

[A]

It should. Hey, hell, you think you gonna get me, and I ain't gonna get your ass back or. I'm gonna get. Oh, I'm gonna get somebody. I'm gonna get somebody back. Oh, man. What was that for? Hey, your boy got my guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

Oh. Oo. You learned that early on the playground, playing at school, playing with your homies. Yeah, that man fire you like that. Oh, boy. You gotta get that boy back.

[D]

Hey, listen, if you don't get him, I'm gonna get him for you.

[A]

Look, it's hard for me to believe that just international players are dirty when we got guys like Bill Lambert and Dylan Brooks and some of the things that Draymond and some of those guys have done. It's just hard for me to believe that it's just international players.

[C]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

There have been some things that the American born players have done some bull job, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Everybody got a little dirtiness in them. We got it in us. But them foreigners, they kind of got it in a different way. Yeah, yeah. They sneaky. And then they'll try to help you up after they do it. Like, they ain't trying to do it on purpose. Like.

[A]

Hold on, boy.

[C]

I know you just did that on purpose. What you mean, you try to help me up? You know what I Mean, that's. That's what he talking about. They do a little slick stuff and then act like they ain't doing and be nice out there.

[A]

Oh, you okay?

[C]

You, man, get up off me, bro.

[A]

Yeah. Kick his hand. Get out of here, man. I don't want no help. No, you can't help me up. Let my teammates help me.

[D]

Right?

[A]

But. Yep. Look, Wimby. Wendy sent a message earlier. Wimby is the leader of that team. He's only 22 years of age, but he's the leader of the team. He sent the message, guys, this how we're playing tonight. The first two games, they've been out, they've been more physical than us, and we've been complaining and looking at the officials and saying what? Let's just play basketball.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's match their intensity, their physicality. We can be as physical as you want it to be. And we'll let the officials decide who's gone too far.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Because I'm gonna take it where it needs to go because I understand that we can't go down.03 and expect to win this series. We got ourselves a series right now. We've given ourselves a chance. Joe Ocho, get game four. Now we go back to San Antonio. We tied. You're probably not going back to San Antonio. You lose game three. Is it just. Just being real? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right. But I think.

[A]

What you think you right.

[D]

You right. I mean, listen, the song tell. Everybody's watching Wimby. Everybody watching them, you know, and we understand how teams have to play to try to nullify him and make him non effective in games offensively and defensively. You put a body on him, try to frustrate him.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, and you do. You do some of these things. And obviously, I don't think he's a dirty player.

[C]

But.

[D]

But he still. Their style of playing, what they do throughout a game, he still has that in him. I don't. I don't care. I don't care if he went and visited Jesus. You know, if it's in you, if it's in you, it's in you, Joe. It is going to come out in. In. In the right and in the right circumstance. And at times in these games, you get to see a little bit of that, man.

[C]

I think the spurs really, really feel that a better team. I think the spurs really feel like they should be up in this series.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

And maybe they should due to, you know, some lackluster mistakes down the Stretch from games one and two, that. That I think they've learned from understanding if they keep their turnovers down, take care of the ball value each possession, force, feed women all. You gotta look a lot of those buckets. He got easy, bro. Just throwing it over the top. When you got that low man down there trying to help, what the hell that low man gonna do if I throw that ball by the ring?

[D]

Because once he raised his hand, he right there at the rim.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. So understanding that and Wimby, you know, forcing his way down, you know, toward. Toward the paint to where he can get easy baskets. Not only easy basket, bro. I just think, you know, when he plays with force, like, he makes the game a lot easier for those guys around him, which ultimately makes them a much, much better team. You know what I mean? Like, I don't like to see him start off on the perimeter, wind the guys up, getting into his size up. I don't like to see him start the game like that. Ocho, I think. And if you watch the tape, and obviously, from the things that I've heard him say, you know, he knows he has to start low and work his way out. So I. I look, hey, hey, I. I look forward to the Knicks having a carbon copy of game three. I. I look forward to bringing it to Game four. And, man, listen, going back to San Antonio, tied. Tutu, man, please, everybody, narrative, who's. Who've been on here. All y'. All Narrative's gonna change.

[A]

Yeah. Like Tupac say, I ain't a killer, but don't push me.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

Women say, y' all look at me, and I'm 7 5, and you know, I'm smiling, and I'm so happy. Go lucky. So nonchalant. But y' all take. You see, y' all take my kindness for weakness. And most people do. Somebody that smiles a lot. Oh, he's soft.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And before you know it, hey, everybody got a breaking point. Yep. Some people, it's not very far. And some people, you got to push and push and push and push and push. And then when they go. And when they go, they're like, I've never seen him like that. Where you've never pushed him to that point, Right? You never pushed her to that point. And so when you push that person to that point. Okay, that's what you got.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Right.

[A]

You got him to a place that he or she's never been, so you got a result that you, he. That you've never seen from him. Or her. It's not that complicated. It's not that complicated. And, you know, we growing up, Joe the Mole, people used to say. My grandma used to say all the time, son, don't make me hurt you.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Don't put. Don't push me to that point, son. Don't. Don't get me there. And so, hey, leave it alone. Whatever you were doing, hey, she hadn't told you because they didn't. They didn't do a whole lot of talking. Them old people back then ain't do that. All that repeating, like, sit down. What did I tell you? Didn't I tell you to sit down? One, two.

[D]

Oh, you get. You.

[A]

I don't even know my. I don't even know if my grandma. Grandfather knew how.

[D]

Oh, I'm gonna say, you got. They gave you a. A countdown.

[A]

No, I'm saying that's what people do now. They do all that counting.

[D]

I got that look from grandma,

[C]

And

[D]

she in the choir. She can't get to me. Playing around in that pew.

[A]

She can't get to me.

[C]

It was a look.

[D]

Hey. The whole choir swaying left to right in rhythm.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

She the only one ain't moving. Just looking dead at me.

[C]

Right. You already know what time it is.

[D]

Hey, she nod the head.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Don't make me come down there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And so that's. That's what I'm saying, you know, you. You can't keep antagonizing the person. Oh, oh, he's soft because, you know. Excuse me. Excuse me. Chat. We play. We know. Oh, oh, he's off. We can do. We can take advantage of him. And so, you know, they push in the back and they do all kind of things. Because I'm telling you, once somebody find out, expect. And it's like this in life. If somebody find out, they can take advantage of you. They're gonna try.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Now. In football, you let somebody push you in the back, and you don't do anything back. Yep. Let somebody do something to you, and you don't do anything back. Guess what? Because everything is being recorded. Yeah, they watching that, too. See, this is the type of player heels. Okay, y' all take this for some. Okay, I got something. Don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then. Oh, bro, bro. It ain't that serious out here. We all try to make a living. Well, I'm trying to end your living. I'm trying. I ain't trying to. I ain't trying to let you make no more living. You didn't care nothing about me. Now all of a sudden, you want me to care about you? Tell me you got a wife and you got kids. You got. You got. Oh, you didn't think. Oh, I have none of that, right? What the hell? I come from a plant. Hell, I got parents, too. I got kids, too. Both folks.

[D]

I ain't trying to hear none of that. You play. Hey, listen.

[A]

Thank you, Joe.

[D]

You play stupid games, you gonna win stupid prizes.

[C]

Hello? Hello? Hey, and my get back. My get back may be a little more than what your what. What you did to me. You can tell me how to get you back.

[A]

Yeah, you should have just left me alone. There you go. Leave. You leave me alone. Hey, you ain't got to worry about it. We gonna play the game. Hey. Because I feel we can play the game. We can be as physical as we need to, but when you start all that funny business.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now you tell me. That's what we all do.

[D]

All. That's all.

[A]

Okay. Well, I got. Hey, I. Look at my. Yeah, I got a little extra time. I could be on that time, too. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Hey, I got a little extra time on my head. Hey, I ain't got to be somewhere until. Okay.

[D]

I'm trying to tell you.

[A]

Huh? Hey, what you trying to tell, Joe?

[D]

You got on the watch.

[C]

Yeah, I got on. Okay.

[D]

Okay. I just want to make sure, because whatever type of time you on, I'm on the same time.

[A]

Damn, Joe. Yeah, Joe. Joe. I'll be up bad Ocho feeling some type of way about this joke.

[D]

I'm back in Miami right now. I'm feeling like kind of. I flew to Atlanta for one reason. The one reason was to see Joe. I was there for 17 hours, boy. I ain't see Joe once, boy. Like, I'm.

[C]

I'm feeling a lot on.

[D]

Like, I'm. I'm on that right now.

[C]

Well, be.

[A]

Be on it.

[C]

However you want.

[D]

Don't worry about it. You know how to Venus flat? You got a Venus fly trap. You know, I had clothes on the fly real quick when I seen. That's how I'm gonna close on him quick.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

Hey. I'm gonna fold a little ass up like a lawn chair.

[A]

I'm telling you.

[C]

Yeah, I got something.

[D]

Every Sunday. Every Sunday, the defense had a game plan. You hear me? They had a game plan and said they were gonna do this and they were gonna do that. But when I got out there between Them lines, boy, it was nothing. Boy, I was, it was a blur. And gonna be the same thing with you.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

The, the thing. Yeah. Well, look, it's got to be somebody that if I'm the next that you want your get back. It's got to be somebody that if you lose, you ain't gonna be missing. You don't want, you don't want it to be Josh Hart. You don't want it to be the Kale Bridges. You don't want it to be Cat or og.

[C]

No, I actually.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Hey, who, Who? Hey. Hey, you got one job.

[C]

I, I, I, I actually think it's gonna be one of them. It's just gonna be a good hard foul. It's gonna be a good harp. It ain't gonna be egregious to the point they gonna throw him out, but they gonna get him real good, you know?

[A]

So they get him a flaggery one. They won't give him a flavor. Yeah.

[C]

When he sit down there on that floor and think about it for a minute. One of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, think about the error of your ways. You know, you, you made, you had an error two days ago, so we just reminding you to make sure. Don't let that happen again, man.

[C]

Yeah,

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[A]

I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I

[C]

don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.

[A]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

After the game, many videos dropped of a fans beating up anyone wearing spurs jerseys in Manhattan to the point that we can't even show those videos because YouTube would take down our stream. But what we can show is how spurs fans literally had to hide behind the police to be protected from a mob of angry Nick fans. Let's take a look at this, guys. Hey, that's pathetic.

[C]

It is, bro. It is. They may the man. I wouldn't. I don't even know if I would actually really call them fans. Them people.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Them mixed hooligans. Yeah, yeah. They trying to get some clicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Really? Come on.

[A]

Really? Because y' all lost. So let me get this straight. So all the time that y' all went on the road because they had never. They hadn't lost the road game and God knows when. So what if somebody was doing that to y' all fans, right?

[C]

Right.

[A]

Boy, y' all see, y' all just. It's just not well enough. So all y' all want to do is just win, win, win. When you lose, you can't handle losing. So this is the way you guys act.

[C]

That's why I told y', all, you gotta have National Guard out there here. Win or lose, they gonna tear something up. Yeah.

[D]

And you know what? It's hard. It's hard. Yeah, it is. It's not a good look. You know, obviously, you know, the Knicks. The Knicks are playing well, the Knicks are in the finals, and the fans need to be an extension of the team. And. And doing what they've done, you know, out there on the street, is not an extension and a good showing and representation of being just not a Knicks fans, but New York in general, the people in general. So, I mean, they. They got to fix that. They got to fix that. Win, lose or draw, you got to. You got to keep it even. Even mind.

[A]

Ben Stiller tweeted, being a Nick fan doesn't mean being disrespectful to spurs fans in any way. We get caught up during the game, but we got to show respect to our fellow humans. Jamal Carpet. I got so much love for Nick fans, but if I'm seeing Spurs fans being attacked just because of the jersey they're wearing, that's whack. It absolutely is.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Now, when somebody see somebody do something, they open you up. Now, why would you. Why'd you have this weapon on you? You go into a game, why you attacking the guy? Because he get jersey on his team. His team won. Your team lost. Okay? You've been celebrating all this. It's been damn near two months since you felt this, what you felt last night. All the teams that you have played, this is what they felt. And I don't really. And maybe. Maybe it happened and it didn't get the coverage that this guy, this hap. This has. But I don't remember anybody attacking Knicks fans when they win and they all in the street and they take it over everybody's buildings. They causing people to lose their season tickets. They're having people being removed and they bought courtside tickets and they're getting moved five, six, seven rows back. And like I said, they call themselves Nick fans, but they're hoodlums. And you behave like this. It's unacceptable.

[C]

Hey, hey, I'm with you. It's unacceptable. But you, you know, you look at the situation when you used to beat your brother back when you used to beat your brother as a kid, you going there, when you win, you act a fool. You act a fool.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Hey, hey. The Knicks fans, they lost. I don't know what. What the spurs fans out there Doing. Whether they was outside gloating or what, I don't know, but it didn't deserve.

[A]

Yeah, it didn't. So what was, Nick, fans. All them games when they was in Philly, all those games when they was in Cleveland, all those games when they was in Atlanta, what were they doing?

[C]

You know, they were gloating. You already know it. Yeah.

[A]

Next.

[C]

Yeah, Next.

[A]

Baby brother cat, call it. Now, you catch this. L. Now, all of a sudden, you want to swing on folks.

[D]

Are you making them take the jersey off?

[A]

And when you behave in this manner. This is how I feel. When you behave in this manner, whatever somebody does to you, you deserve. They have my blessing. I'm all for it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If somebody hits you over the head with a crowbar, if somebody opens your ass up, literally,

[B]

no pause, I will.

[A]

Hey, if. If. So, if. If somebody. If you need a buck fifty, you deserve it. Leave people alone. I don't know when and it's been like this, but I'm just trying to figure out, why must we put our hands on somebody when we lose or things don't go our way. Leave people alone. It is a game you didn't play. And y' all bother these people. People gotta hide behind the police. See, that's why. That's why I don't even go out. That's why a lot of times I don't go out.

[C]

Guys. Well, listen, listen. This. You understanding the environment you're gonna be in, being in New York and. And understanding what we talk about the Knicks winning and how those people gonna act, man, look, it's really not that surprising to me. I'm gonna be honest with you. I ain't saying it's right, but it's not that surprising to me.

[A]

They catch the right one.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

On the wrong day.

[C]

Yeah, on the right day.

[A]

And then what? Then what happens? Then what happens? Everybody like, well, this is not basketball. This is not. You didn't say nothing when they were attacking them fans. Yeah, yeah, because, you know, because most. Most. And humans are animals. They have a mob mentality. If one dog starts to attack, more times than not, if there are multiple dogs, they'll also join in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's how people are. Oh, well, let me get a piece. Let me get a lick. I've always wanted to do something like this, man. Leave people alone. I get it. Nobody likes to lose. Nobody likes to lose. I get it. It is not a great feeling. But you attacking the fact that you didn't play, they didn't play, but somehow you feel it's okay to put your hands on people. Me personally, I never understood that. You know, I'm like, look, hey, have fun. Hey, I get it. I never understood when you win and you, you. You pull it. Burning cars and you, hey, so what. What happens with. Okay, you won that night. So what happens when the euphoria is over and you wake up the next

[D]

morning and you car burned up?

[A]

Damn, that's my car. I flipped over my ish. This is my business. I. I burst out all the window. I. I'm just. I'm confused, Joe. I really am ojo. I really am.

[C]

Somebody break like that, man.

[A]

Yeah. And they think it's cool. They think it's cute. Yeah, they do.

[C]

That's why they recording. And they go make sure they have the video for us so they can up, so they can get them some views, they can get them some clicks, some like. We're in a different time. Okay, Ocho?

[A]

It is. It is. Joey is sad.

[C]

Yeah, it is. It's real sad. But we're in a different time to where everybody's looking to go viral, bro. And they would do anything to get. To get a viral clip.

[D]

Hey, they would.

[C]

They. They willing to do anything. So. Snatching. Yeah, snatching jerseys off of spurs fans. Beating them up. Yeah, they. They know that type of stuff gonna go viral.

[D]

A technology, social media, camera phones, just. Just in general. It's. It's become a gift and a curse. Become a gift and a curse. People are trying to monetize on everything because there's so many different avenues and ways to make money.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Trying to take advantage of every. Every everything they can.

[A]

But you do realize, guys, everybody is not meant to be famous. Everybody can't be a professional athlete. Everybody can't be a doctor. Everybody can't be a lawyer. Everybody can't be every. Everybody is not to be famous. Where you need security or you walk down the street and everybody knows who you are.

[B]

You.

[A]

You do realize that, right? I think everybody by 15 minutes. Everybody ain't meant to get 15.

[D]

And 15 don't do nothing for you

[A]

get you effed up, you get the wrong one. Hello.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And then what? And then you know your people. Well, he was a good kid. No, he wasn't. He put his hands on somebody. Should have left him alone.

[C]

There you go. There you go.

[A]

He was doing something. He or she was doing something they didn't have no. No business doing, right? Leave people alone. Leave people's stuff alone. Don't be stealing. Somebody catch you stealing their car. They put that thing on you. Don't be mad, you hear me? Don't be talking about, well, he didn't have to do that. You're right. He didn't have to do that. Cause it effect. Hey, man, what was this action? For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What caused this person to do what they did? It ain't nothing. It's just material stuff. It's my material.

[C]

Right.

[A]

He must have thought it was more than that because he wanted it. He or she wanted it.

[C]

Right? Right.

[A]

Love. I love how people tell me, well, it ain't mean nothing. It's just, what's a little car? Mine.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Little piece of car. Yeah, my little piece of car. But I paid my little harder piece of money for that, too. And I don't want nobody effing with it.

[C]

Right. Right in my house.

[A]

Here's my. It's a shack. We didn't have much. Probably won't go getting up with some JCPenney catalogs and a phone book. But that was ours. Yep, that was ours. But come on, come on, people that live in New York, I'm not going to even say you're New York fans. People in New York, cut this foolishness out. This unnecessary. Thank you, Ben Stiller. Thank you, Jamal Crawford, for speaking out against this. This is unnecessary. Totally uncalled for. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. And I know me. That's a lot of times why I didn't. I don't like to go to the game. The team I'm rooting for, they lose, I'm mad and I know. And what. And what do you do, Ojo? You see somebody with. With my team won. Your team lost.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? You know, hey, you know how we get.

[C]

Joe. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, Joe.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It ain't good enough. Yeah, we won. We won. I gotta get all up in your face. Yeah, baby.

[C]

Hey, hey. That's what I'm saying. We don't know if the spurs fans was doing that. If they started doing. If they started doing that, and then that's when them nigga fans got on them. You know what I mean? So it could be a cause and effect. You know what I mean? You never know, bro.

[A]

I ain't gonna get nobody Faith. I'll be like, yeah, baby, win back. The alien has landed. Where's Batman when you need him? Be afraid of Wimpy. Be afraid of the Avia. Gotham City has been taken over by an Alien clever with it. I already got this thing rehearsed. When women do what he does to get him going, man. No, ain't no. Shut up. Wimby. Touchdown. But man, look here, man, like I said. And look, I would, I would never, I wouldn't let my family go to a Raiders game when it was in the Coliseum back then. That's absolutely. Back then.

[D]

Coliseum black hole.

[A]

It's a no way.

[C]

Listen, did you hear on the last dance, Jordan said he didn't let his kids come to Utah for the game. What was it, 5 and 6?

[D]

It was that bit.

[C]

He would let him go because. Yeah, because of how hostile it was. It was an environment. Hey, man, you better know where you playing at.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And see Oakland. Oakland was a right. They're not division. We're rival. Most video shows people minding their own business, trying to walk down, trying to walk home before being swarmed. So you know that, that mentality, man, people, the one thing that we do know, animals, they prey on the old and the weak. That was the first thing to get gobbled up on the Serengeti.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Especially when you're in, especially in a

[A]

group, you're looking at somebody. First of all, you're looking at somebody with a Spurs jersey on. He just come from the game. What you know, two things you know for certain, he got a Spurs jersey on. One thing I know absolutely for certain, he got no weapon on him. Oh, no, he ain't got no weapon on him.

[C]

No.

[A]

That's what I do know. If he came from the game, he got a Spurs game on. He walking out, he got a whip. Cause he couldn't get in the game.

[C]

Not in New York any damn way.

[A]

Nope.

[C]

No sir.

[A]

But I, I, I'm just, I've always been in the mindset. I mind my business, walk down the street, throw up my hand, keep it going. Obviously, as I became more famous and people, I acknowledge them and I keep going. I ain't bother nobody because I don't want nobody bothering me. That's, that's, that's, that's. I am. I mean, my grandma used to always say, boy, hey, mind your, mind your business. I got, hey, I got 24 hours in a day. I spent 12 hours minding my business. I spent 12 hours staying out of other folks business.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I ain't got no time. Yeah, yeah, I got no time, but this is some bull jive. I'm, I, I mean just thinking, just thinking about. I ain't, I ain't know anything about this because obviously I Had to work day today was taping Club Sh. Shay without it, the Broncos practice, talking to VJ the defensive coordinator and talking to Sean. So I. I'm. I'm. I'm not privy to what's going on. So I don't really know what's going. What happened last night or anything that happened today. I did see the young man in Texas that stabbed that kid that ended up. He ended up getting 35 years. He's eligible for roll and. And.

[D]

And half.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Who's. Who I'll be. Yup. We're not gonna go there because I don't think anybody that looks like us surprised of the sentence that he got. Yeah, okay. Okay. Dylan Harper's sister reported threatened to steal. Dylan Harper's sister reportedly threatened to steal his dogs if the spurs lost game three against the Knicks. According to him, she said, if you lose this game, I'm gonna go to San Antonio and take your dogs. She loves dogs. I love my dogs. I'm playing hard as I can. Did you ever. Did you ever get motivated in an unconventional way? Joe?

[C]

O. Joe, definitely get motivated in an unconventional way.

[A]

Somebody your family member come and say they come to steal your dogs? Yeah, that's very unconventional.

[C]

I mean, I ain't got nothing off. Off back that really. They jump out.

[D]

I'm trying to think right.

[C]

But yeah, that is, if. So if he says his sister say she coming to steal his dog.

[A]

Gonna go steal his dog. Yeah, he love his dog. Because I. Hey, man, they told me they come to see my boys. All right. Hey, y', all, somebody gotta wear ass cut today.

[D]

Hey, that.

[A]

That's a.

[D]

That's a good one. I mean, being motivated in an unconventional way.

[C]

I think. Hey, listen, I think Dylan Harper motivated anyway because he from up north, he from Jersey. That's right across the street. You know, typically, you got all these New Yorkers. They all live in Jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean? So, yeah, for him to win, boy.

[A]

I mean, I have been motivated in a couple of unconventional ways, but I can't share with you. Okay. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

There you go.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey,

[A]

y' all set me up. See that? That's a setup.

[C]

That's Ocho. See Ocho, he stay trying to deflect it on somebody else. Y' all fighting for first.

[D]

Joe, we've seen this countless times the past four show. Unk jump out the window with it. I haven't said anything. Anything crazy in the past four shows.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean, I expect some crazy stuff to fly out y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Paul, you Know. I mean, I know how y' all are.

[A]

All I said is I've been motivated in unconventional ways. It's just right now, I can't speak on it. That's all I said, y'. All. I got you. That's all I said. Hey, I mean. I mean, when they make a. You know, when they say a thing like that. Well, I got. Boy, when you get home, y' all win this game. When you get home, you gonna do what.

[D]

What you got on?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Nathaniel, you outside? Yeah, yeah, right there in front of the door.

[C]

Yeah. With that roll?

[A]

Yeah, baby. Baby, we couldn't see the game. What you do? Oh, I had 150. Oh, love it. Let me go fresh it up. I'll be over. Hey, yeah. Hey, yeah, you made me some problems like that right now.

[C]

Hey, hey.

[A]

I ain't even got no stick.

[D]

Hey, but you shipping gears, huh?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I already know it.

[A]

Hey, I passing my teammate. But down sharp, we ain't know. You had a stick and a Range Rover. No, I could.

[D]

Hey, I had. You had that thing in sport mode, huh?

[A]

Man, look here, if anything, I had that thing like Fred Flisto. I just hate running. My feet don't knew how to get that car going.

[C]

Hey, man, listen, I know the feeling was.

[A]

But see, o. O Joe try to be slick. See Joe. What Joe tried to do is keep us out in front of and just lay in the back. And then they say, see, what I tell you? I told you the boy. They fight it out.

[C]

That ain't. That ain't me. Y'. All. Y' all really go at each other. I just. I just played my position. I played my position. See, Eric the chat already know. Y' all fighting. You know, I mean, everybody know that. Man, this ain't no.

[A]

No man chat. No, man, I'm. I'm 58 years old, man.

[C]

Here you go. Here you go.

[A]

They know I work day. The chair already know, man. They say un working on the licking. A promise he do a lick today and promise he gonna do more tomorrow. That's all I got for him.

[C]

They say. They say. Damn, UNC58, he look like he got a damn backpack on right now. Well, you got a backpack on, man. Traps coming out his neck. Listen, I already.

[A]

I know.

[C]

I know both of y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Boy, hey, I know y' all already like a book.

[A]

I haven't.

[D]

I. I.

[A]

Hey, well, you know. You know, sometimes. Sometimes, you know, a hundred pounds on there leg, 100 pound on there right there. You know what I'm saying? You got to build your traps up. You know, I do insurance with at least 150s. Hold that thing. You know, you get them up there whole 1, 2, 3. Slow it down.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, hey, yeah, dead weight. That's my dead weight. It get heavy. Cause it's all over the place. It's not. People like, man, you lift all them. You lift weight. I say. But if you had an interstate, that's. They're on a fixed position. Yeah, that's why bodies are so heavy. You got a head hanging over here. You got arm hanging over here. You got leg right there. You got the middle of your body drop through. Bro, that. That's. That. That's. That's heavy weight. Yeah, yeah, but, you know, I do them Zerchas. So you all know if you put the. Put the bar right here, you do squad with the do Xerch. Build your back. Build your low back up. Also joking.

[C]

Oh, yeah, you do them.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Not no more. No. Better. Oo, man. OO try to be slick, man. Oo be. Put me out there.

[C]

That's what happened.

[A]

You. You.

[C]

Hey, you starting to catch. It don't catch on.

[D]

Hey, Joe, I'm k. Catching. Hey, Joe, every. Every so often now, you. You, too.

[C]

You.

[D]

You come out the window, boy, you. You acting. You acting. Well, God, you be jumping out the door. I'm like, damn, Joe.

[A]

Yeah. Cause I ain't really. I. I ain't really like that.

[C]

You ain't like what?

[A]

Like what y' all portraying me to be.

[C]

Now he quiet, but now he don't talk. Now him.

[A]

Man, you know Joe, babe, you know, I. I don't. I'll be. I'm selling wolf ticket.

[C]

Yeah,

[A]

yeah. I heard people talk like that when I was growing up. Them old men talking on. On the barbershop. They playing checkers. You know, checkers used to be a big thing. Ain't nobody played chess in the South. Where I was from, everybody played checkers. They had those coke tops on the board. They have checker pieces. They had bottle tops. Yeah, that was the pieces. Two bottle tops. You put them in each other. That's a king. Yeah, we play flowers. Some people don't play flying kings. We play flying king. So he can move way across the board. I mean, because if you can't, don't play flying kings. What? He ain't no different than any other piece. If he can't do but one go but one spot. But Joe, you know Joe, try to be slick. I know Joe. What?

[C]

Oh, man, I'll be chilling Bro, I. Hey, hey. 10, two over here. Tend to my damn business. I don't be. Hey, that's all I do. That's all I do.

[A]

We know Ocho. Ocho got them skinny guy. They love them. They love them. They love them.

[D]

I'm not even skinny no more.

[A]

That what they love more times than not. When you see, you see a big woman, skinny man.

[C]

Yeah, big man.

[D]

You know. Yeah, I, I, I didn't feel, Joe, you know, speaking of, you know, big women, you know, it was a time, you know, anything, you know, 200 up, you know, that, that was me, Joe, you hear me?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You know, ever since, you know, it got to a time that's more than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. Yeah, yeah. I, I, Joe, it was the time I only dated BBWs. Yeah. I mean, it was unfortunate for some reason, like, they, they, they didn't want to be seen with me. They, they didn't want to, you know, go nowhere with me in public. So most of the time, based on their decisions, you know, they, they were uncomfortable being, you know, seen with me in public and want everything to be quiet. But that is, you know, what I would, I dated, you know, but, but nobody knows about it because they, they refuse to have to deal with the, the, the public. Oh, I'm private.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And all that good stuff. And then, you know, I had a small break where I was, I was single, Joe. And I'm talking about now, you know, I was single. It was, it was, There was a gap. And, you know. Yeah, ain't no, no one wants your boy, you know.

[A]

Yeah, but, But I think the thing is, Ocho, when we say that or Joe. And Joe wasn't on here, we was talking like that. They said, man, man, okay, do that. Ocho ain't do that. Y' all looking at what Uncle Ocho now, man, Y' all didn't know. Y' all didn't know when he was 18, you didn't know he was 25, you didn't know he was 30. He was 35, he was 40. You didn't know. So it's hard. And besides, most of you've never seen me with anybody. So you speculate, because so what. What we're starting to do, what I'm starting to see, what I started to notice is that people, when people don't know about you, they'll make up stuff about you.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

To fit their narrative. That's all.

[A]

That's it. So, yeah, every couple of, you know, a couple of times, you know what I'm saying, Joe, has my weight a little heavy. A little. About five, ten pounds heavier. Yeah, but ain't no, no, no, no, no shade. Old country boy like myself, farm boy, couldn't handle it. Just, you know, just. I couldn't handle both legs at the same time.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I had that one of them. Doing what I could do. Whatever I can do, Joe.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, pick the other one up. I said, baby, I'm about to sit this one down. What you told me I picked the other one. Come on, now. Work with me. Work with me.

[D]

It was some good days, but. Good days, but, you know, but yeah.

[A]

Dylan says, also says shooting at an empty gym might be actually harder than shooting in Madison Square Garden. Some people think that shooting in an empty gym is harder than shooting in the Garden. Because I feel like you're in an empty gym, it's just you and the ball and it's countless thoughts going through your head. Joe, you played in MSG several times. Is it harder shooting in msg? What's some of the harder arenas to shoot in?

[C]

Hold on, who said it was the. Who said it was a harder ring to shoot in?

[A]

Dylan Harper says shooting at an empty gym might be actually harder than shooting in Madison Square Garden.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't find it hard to shoot in Madison Square Garden. I thought. I mean, they actually have. From the last time I played in there, they had good rims, good shooters. Rims. Like if you a shooter, you know, you going down, Uncle Ocho, and that ball hit that rim and you like, oh, man, that's a nice soft rim. Like, that's a good shooting rim. They had good shooting rims, from what I can remember. I enjoy playing in there. It's almost like a stage. It's not even necessarily like a basketball court. It seems like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's like you literally on a stage almost. You know what I mean? Because, you know, when you go in there, you gotta go up these escalators or you gotta. You gotta go up this big fan freight elevator. You got to walk that big ramp all the way to the. To the court, and it just seems like a stage. I don't know if it's the lights, how they. How they shine the lights on the court to make it bright and kind of dim the stands a little bit to where the stands are a little darker. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's an amazing atmosphere to play in. I ain't gonna lie to you. I enjoyed it.

[A]

I think, Joe. Plus, you gotta get used to that perception, that depth perception in an arena like that, because most of us, we come from high school and it's small, and then even in your college arena, and I think that's the biggest thing for in the March Madness. So you go from shooting in a college arena, and now you go into these arenas. Yeah, it is really, really open.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And your. And the. Your depth perception, you're like, yeah, damn.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's kind of like playing at night, Ocho. Normally when we play up other nights, we get one day of practicing under the lights. So you get your depth perception to hide that ball, because that ball is totally different at night than it is in the day.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And you got to be careful to try to track it, but not look into the light, because the next day, you know, you look into the license. That ball, it's on you. It's on you. But look, I ain't really never shot in an empty gym, so I couldn't. I don't know if I. I can't confirm a deny, but he says shooting at an empty gym might be actually harder than shooting in Madison Square Garden.

[C]

No, I. I don't know about that. Because in an empty gym, you know, ain't no pressure in that. Hell, it's just you.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's just you in the ball. So you can, you know, hit or miss.

[A]

You don't, you know, nobody know you missing but you.

[C]

But once you. Once you in the arena. And I heard him say on one. On one clip, I seen that he walked past Jay Z, but he didn't speak, you know what I mean? Because he was just so locked in. But it's like, bro, that ain't. That ain't normal. You know what I mean? So understanding that you're playing in msg, Madison Square Garden, the. The Mecca of. The Mecca of basketball. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it weighs. It weighs different, I'm telling you, because playing in a dome, like, for instance, Syracuse playing a dome, I. I would expect that to be a lot different playing in that dome with that depth perception versus me. When I was playing at the University of Arkansas, we had 20,000, but we kind of right on top, all on

[A]

top of each other, you know what I mean?

[C]

So I'm sure it's a little different, though.

[A]

Absolutely. And look, I guarantee if it's a regular season game, he'd have spoke to Jay Z. But the magnitude of the moment, you locked in even more now.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

You see, everybody? You see, I mean guys that I, I, I've been in play, been to games and playoff situations where guy that was in a playoff situation, they like, what's up, Sean? You know, they throw the head up. Yeah. And then I've been in situation where guys are locked in, they just, they just not. Yeah, they nod.

[C]

Yeah, I get it.

[A]

I, I definitely understand. Same thing. I've been in a situation where I see famous people on the sideline and if it's a regular season game, hey, I might run over there and dap you up.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But if it's a playoff game, locked in. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm, I'm not surprised by that, Joe. I'm really not.

[C]

Yeah.

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