Nightcap Hour 2: Nightcap Hour 2: Shaq REVEALS His ALL-TIME Starting 5 + Brandon Aiyuk BREAKS SILENCE + Woman’s COOKING Gone VIRAL

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2: Detailed Episode Summary

Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Air Date: June 8, 2026
Episode: Shaq REVEALS His ALL-TIME Starting 5 + Brandon Aiyuk BREAKS SILENCE + Woman’s COOKING Gone VIRAL

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Overview

The Nightcap crew—Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe—dive into late-night sports commentary with unfiltered takes on major NBA and NFL news. This episode kicks off with Shaquille O’Neal revealing his all-time NBA starting five and the ensuing debate about dream lineups. They transition to Brandon Aiyuk’s public airing of grievances with the San Francisco 49ers and its implications for player/team relationships and contract value in the NFL. The second half features a lively, culturally rooted discussion about home-cooked meals, food traditions, and viral dating trends. The episode weaves in themes of legacy, financial wisdom, and personal anecdotes with the hosts’ signature humor and camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Shaq’s All-Time NBA Starting Five (02:25–06:37)

• Shaq’s Picks: Steph Curry (PG), Kobe Bryant (SG), Michael Jordan (SF), Tim Duncan (PF), Shaquille O’Neal (C).
• Instant Debate: Joe responds with his own lineup: Penny Hardaway, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Garnett, Hakeem Olajuwon.
  • "He got Steph, Cole, Jordan, Mike. ... I got Braun, KD, KG, and Hakeem at the 5. Penny as my one man." — Joe (03:35)
• Mismatch and Fit Debates: Hosts critique whether Shaq’s lineup actually fits together or if it just piles up star talent.
  • "Shaq is just putting the best players. He ain't putting players that play together." — Shannon Sharpe (05:00)
• Historical Head-to-Heads: Reference to Olajuwon’s Rockets sweeping Shaq's Magic in the '95 Finals.

Notable Quote:
“Nobody’s beating that team.” — Shannon Sharpe (02:25, quoting Shaq)

2. Building Dream Teams vs. Realistic Rosters (06:37–07:39)

• Analogies are drawn to NFL dream teams, highlighting the importance of chemistry and fit rather than just talent accumulation.
  • "There’s a reason why they started taking a fullback to Pro Bowl..." — Shannon Sharpe (06:46)

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3. Brandon Aiyuk’s “Silence Break”: The 49ers Standoff (07:44–14:47)

• Aiyuk’s Instagram Post: The group deconstructs a cryptic Instagram analogy referencing being undervalued and held back by the team.
  • "They don’t get picked for the basketball game at the court, but they the ones that brought the ball… So they like, all right, you don't want to pick me, I'm taking my ball. I'm going home. Ass boys.” — Joe (08:00)
• Translation of Player Sentiment: Ocho explains that Aiyuk feels the 49ers want to keep him only to prevent another team from benefiting, not because they value him properly.
  • "Instead of letting me go elsewhere...they're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, I want to keep him here." — Ocho (09:51)
• Money vs. Principles: Aiyuk’s willingness to leave millions on the table gives rise to host debates about financial wisdom and legacy.
  • “All you gotta do is go rehab. How you… say, 'I hate this situation so bad, I'm gonna forego this kind of money?'” — Shannon Sharpe (10:15)
  • "His time in San Fran is up." — Shannon Sharpe (11:30)
• NFL Career Fragility: Emphasis on how quickly a position’s value can change due to age, draft picks, and injury.

Notable Quote:
"Me too. Guess what? You can still want to leave somewhere with a bag full of money." — Shannon Sharpe (13:21)

Timestamps

• 07:44 Brandon Aiyuk topic begins
• 09:50 Ocho interprets IG analogy
• 10:15 Value trade and rehab debate
• 11:28 Injury/age and NFL business lesson

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4. The Business Side: Contracts, Money & Career Longevity (15:13–20:18)

• NFL Money Realities: Hosts share personal experiences with paychecks, the fleeting nature of athletic careers, and urge financial prudence.
  • "You make your money in a finite period of time, make as much money as you can in that 5, 10, 15 year window." — Shannon Sharpe (17:39)
  • "I remember getting paid every two weeks and getting a check for fifty five hundred dollars." — Shannon Sharpe (19:16)

Memorable Exchange:

• Tales of locker room check comparisons and the tradition of receiving physical checks.
  • "I cash the whole check. I gotta bring this home, put this on...the bed." — Shannon Sharpe (19:36)
• Reflections on humble beginnings: catching chickens for $1, working in fields, and gratitude for later financial stability.
  • "To go from making $28 to a thousand dollars a day or five thousand or ten..." — Shannon Sharpe (28:59)

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5. Camaraderie & Personal Stories (31:18–38:28)

• Family Reunions: Shannon reflects on the joy of getting his children together and recognizing their work ethic.
  • "I got all my babies in one spot… I could honestly say they hard workers now." — Shannon Sharpe (31:24)
• Scheduling Struggles: The group tries and fails to organize a breakfast outing, revealing their playful dynamic and busy schedules.
  • "Toast don't open up to 9:00am Man." — Joe (35:53)
• Vegas & Gambling Banter: Jokes about casino strategies and playing low-stakes tables.

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6. Viral Cooking Controversy: “Don’t Eat Her Spaghetti” (42:37–47:55)

• Viral Tweet: Debates etiquette surrounding a woman offering to cook spaghetti and panna cotta for a man on a sixth date.
  • "First off, you don't eat. You don't eat nobody know anybody's spaghetti... We ain't. Nah, nah. Hell no." — Joe (42:59)
• Superstition & Food Traditions:
  • Both Shannon and Joe reference family warnings about eating spaghetti prepared by women you aren’t deeply familiar with, citing old-school wisdom handed down through generations.
  • "First of all, you ain't gonna cook no spaghetti at my house, and I'm gonna eat it. ...Like I say, ain't nothing red, you cook it." — Shannon Sharpe (43:25)
• Cultural Rituals: Shannon shares stories about family superstitions around thunderstorms, spirits, and covering mirrors.

Notable Exchange:

• Ocho’s take on not requiring a partner to cook
  • "There's something that's...not a prerequisite for me. A lot of men, they want someone that can cook, and that's just...never been something that I require." — Ocho (45:43)
• Shannon’s ex who could recreate any restaurant meal: "Ain’t nobody beating them. ...Oxtail October, you name it." — Shannon Sharpe (46:53)
• Banter about “the best way to a man’s heart is through his stomach” erupts into innuendo and comedic jabs.

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7. Final Banter and Personal Dynamics (47:55–52:26)

• Friendship Dynamics: Good-natured ribbing about who’s freakiest, who’s most dependable, and playful “who’s really number one” debates.
  • "Birds of a feather. Penguins hang with penguins. Pigeons hang with pigeons. Hawks hang with hawks. Eagles hang with eagles." — Shannon Sharpe (51:46)
• Vulture Metaphor: Ocho playfully claims he’s the vulture: "I'm eating everything on the ground." — Ocho (52:18)
• Deepened Camaraderie: Shannon credits the chemistry and real friendship among the three, stating that's what makes the podcast special.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with timestamps)

• "Nobody’s beating that team." — Shaq via Shannon Sharpe (02:30)
• "You say, give me Curry, Kobe, Jordan, Duncan, and myself." — Shannon Sharpe, on Shaq’s approach (05:00)
• "Me too. Guess what? You can still want to leave somewhere with a bag full of money." — Shannon Sharpe (13:21)
• "To go from making $28 to a thousand dollars a day or five thousand..." — Shannon Sharpe (28:59)
• "First of all, you ain't gonna cook no spaghetti at my house, and I'm gonna eat it." — Shannon Sharpe (43:25)
• "There's something that's...not a prerequisite for me. ...never been something that I require." — Ocho on partner cooking (45:43)
• "Birds of a feather. Penguins hang with penguins. ...Eagles hang with eagles." — Shannon Sharpe (51:46)
• "I'm an eagle. ...I just increase my altitude when they ain't get. ...I just keep going." — Joe (52:06)
• "I'm eating everything on the ground." — Ocho (52:18)

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Vibe: Fast-paced, playful, and full of personal anecdotes. Banter is frequent; analogies, cultural references, and sports wisdom are woven throughout.
• Style: The language is informal, direct, and peppered with sports lingo and cultural slang.
• Takeaways: Beyond sports, the episode delivers perspective on teamwork, loyalty, financial sense, and the value of tradition—whether in contracts, cooking, or camaraderie.

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Key Timestamps

• 02:25 – Shaq’s all-time NBA lineup & debate
• 07:44 – Brandon Aiyuk speaks out (49ers)
• 13:21 – Big money vs. wanting freedom
• 19:16 – NFL check stories
• 42:37 – Viral home cooking debate
• 51:46 – “Birds of a feather” analogy

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Conclusion

This episode offers a rich blend of NBA and NFL hot takes, genuine locker room tales, personal finance wisdom, playful roasting, and culturally-rooted debates about food and relationships. Fans get both sports knowledge and a strong sense of the personalities behind the mics—Unc, Ocho, and Joe—who balance insights, nostalgia, and relentless humor.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Now streaming on Paramount, the acclaimed series from executive producer Lena Waithe reaches its final chapter. The SHY for seven seasons, these stories, these streets, this community have stayed with us. Now it all leads to this. As friendships are tested, families evolve, and secrets refuse to stay buried, one thing is certain. The SHY is more than just a series. It's a legacy. Don't miss the final season of the shy now streaming on the Paramount plus premium plan. Shaquille o' Neal reveals his NBA all time starting five. He got Steph Curry at the one. He's got Kobe at the two. He's got Jordan at the three. He has Duncan at the four, and me at the five. Nobody's beating that team. Joe, can you put a team together that. That would beat that team?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I could put a team together to beat that team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I'm trying to figure how you gonna get. He got two guys that. That are natural born scores.

[Joe]

Yeah, he. He got Steph, Cole, Jordan, Mike.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike at the three, Duncan at the four, him at the five.

[Joe]

Yeah, I got a team that can get at them. Boy, give me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who your team?

[Joe]

Braun, Katie, Kevin Garnett.

[Ocho]

You said kd.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's true. What'd you say?

[Ocho]

You said Kevin Garnett, kd. So that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you won't K. You meant KG and Kevin Garnett. Okay, you got Case, so you got. You got Braun, KD, KG and.

[Joe]

Okay, I'm going. Hakeem. Hakeem at the 5. And I'll probably throw. Not throw. I'm gonna put Penny in there as my one man name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got Penny, Braun, kd, kg.

[Joe]

We ain't gonna be able to do

[Shannon Sharpe]

what Elijah, y' all ain't beat.

[Ocho]

Y' all ain't beating George, you crazy.

[Joe]

We gonna have a mismatch on the floor. Hell, Curry gonna have to go out some damn body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ooh, got a point there, Ocho.

[Ocho]

That's only one mismatch. Man, they still.

[Joe]

That's all it take. That's all it take here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hey, while you bullshit Jordan guard. Who? Jordan garden. He guarding LeBron or he Garden?

[Joe]

You have to figure that out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna have to figure Kobe, Garden, LeBron or KD.

[Joe]

Kobe probably gonna. Yeah, I don't know. But one of them gonna have their damn hands full. KD and Braun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, please. Y' all acting like these.

[Joe]

These ain't generational talents and players just like Kobe and Jordan. Man, please.

[Ocho]

You right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is that what Shaq is doing. Shaq is just putting the best players. He. He ain't putting players that play together. That. That'll be a team like the Li. Like when they put a team for the living O. Joe, they looking at. Okay, who can play with who. Who can play with Steph, KD and Braun, who's gonna be okay defending? Who's gonna be okay X, Y and Z. Who's gonna be of that Shaq just like, hey, give me Kirby, Kobe, Jordan, Duncan, and myself.

[Joe]

Yeah, and K. Hey, KG and Duncan, they probably gonna cancel each other out. I need you to be relentless against Duncan. Kg, he gonna act a fool. He gonna be hell. And we already know how. Keem, y' all know they play the Rockets. Played the Magics in the finals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Swept. Swept them.

[Joe]

Okay. Hey, we gonna be. Hey, we're gonna have to figure it out. That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Joe]

That'd be a great matchup, if you ask me

[Shannon Sharpe]

that. I mean, Curry at the point, Cole bet the 2. Jordan at the 3. Obviously, all these players that, you know, Shaq played against, played against Duncan. That was his rival. Played against Jordan. Cole played with Cole, played against cold. He wasn't around with Steph. Yeah, hold on. He was in the league when. Still got there.

[Joe]

Shaq, when. When did he come in? Where he was at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shaq played 1960.

[Joe]

Yeah. Where was he? Was he in Phoenix?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then he might. Was he in Phoenix or was he in Boston?

[Joe]

Oh, at the end? Yeah, it might have been. It might have been Boston. Yeah, might have been Boston.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's always interesting to see when team people try to put a team together, and then a lot of times people just put bad. I want Tom Brady, I want Kio. I want Jared. I want Brandon, who gonna be okay? Ocho with catching three balls. Give me. Give me Barrett. Give me Barry, Walter Payton, and Jim Brown. Okay, who blocking for who? There's a reason why they started taking a fullback to Pro Bowl. You start, okay, there's Em and Barry, who blocking for who? That's why ain't nobody rushing no yard. So they had to start dropping off a running back and taking a fullback. So it's always interesting to watch how team. People put teams together. It seems like people just put teams together, like, okay, let me get the. The five best players or the. The best players at these positions and see how it works. I just don't know when you put. That would have put a situation like that.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're gonna be okay catching one.

[Joe]

Y' all know they gonna be throwing fizz over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brandon Iuk, Ocho Joe broke his silence on his situation with the 49ers. Here's what he posted on Instagram this morning.

[Joe]

We dealing with, you know, like, them kids, and they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't get picked for the basketball

[Joe]

game at the court, but they the ones that brought the ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they like, all right, you don't want to pick me.

[Joe]

I'm taking my ball. I'm going home. Ass boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Little ass boys.

[Joe]

Or like, when your kid, he got this one toy, but he don't really know how to use it correctly, so somebody else about to pick it up and play with it, and they're like, oh, yeah, this liddy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my toy.

[Ocho]

Ass boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Little ass boy.

[Joe]

Man, stop running from the belt. The belt coming. You scared? They scared. The truth is, they scared. They know how I get. They gonna say, oh, yeah, BA Ba BA did this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

BA did that.

[Joe]

BA did you know that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Allegedly.

[Joe]

Allegedly. But what they not gonna say is, BA Suck at football because they know how I get. And they running from that belt. That's on the way. It's inevitable. It's coming. Stop running. Stop being a female dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop being a female dog.

[Ocho]

Stop being a little cat.

[Joe]

Stop running from the belt. Hey, hey, hey, hey. They gotta give my man some help, for real, bro.

[Ocho]

Hey, you understand what he's saying? Huh?

[Joe]

Yeah, I totally understand what he's saying,

[Ocho]

but I get it. A lot of people probably not gonna get it. You know, I mean, for us, you know, sometimes we say things in riddle format where. Where others really don't understand it. Now, the. The concept and what it sound like he's trying to say is, Obviously, I'm a 49er, right? And there are other people that might want me.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Instead of letting me go elsewhere so someone else could have that same toy that the child is playing with, they're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I want to keep him here.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm gonna keep him here.

[Ocho]

You can tell that part based on the analogy that he did use. I mean, what you think, Joe?

[Joe]

I don't think. Nobody taking a chance on that. Okay, Ocho, who gonna want to deal with that, bro?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, oh, I think somebody will take a chance, Joe. I think the thing is, is that 49ers want to get some value for him. You know what I'm saying? They. They. I mean, what I don't get with him? Okay, Joe. Ocho, all you gotta do is go rehab. How you not go rehab? How you. How you. How you say, you know what? I hate this situation so bad, I'm gonna forego this kind of money, Joe. Ocho, that's what I don't understand. Okay? You said they. Hey, now. And Everybody knows the 49ers want to move on. Everybody knows he wants to move on, so everybody's trying to suppress the price. I'm not trying to give you what you want for him. I. I Just. I. I don't. And look, everything. Everything he said could be true, but guess what? It can be true. And I'm gonna get every dime that I'm supposed to get. And if y' all want to trade me, trade me. But. But y' all gonna trade me with my pocket.

[Joe]

But if you're another team, though, how. How can you trust. How can you trust his. His actions, bro, considering the fact that, you know, he got that money from San Fran? That's what I'm saying. Hell, you gonna be scared, man. You gonna be cautious, like. So you. You saying. Y' all saying the 49ers want to get some value, get some value of him, right? But hell, who. Who gonna want to deal with that, bro?

[Ocho]

I mean, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look, he's too talented. He's young. He's probably, what, 27? 27. Oh, so he has some talent. He had over a thousand yards. But I. I. Look, his time in San Fran is up. And then, you know, he posted. I read that the police is going to issue a citation for him when he posted himself speeding. Ocho, I say that's why you got to be careful. You never post yourself in the commission crime, because anything that you post that use that against you. You, bro, if they taking lyrics using somebody, you. I'm singing a song. Yeah, I smoke that fool over there on 15th abroad, somebody get killed on 15 brawl, guess who they coming to get? Oo, you. You post a video. This your IG account? You driving 100, 110, 15 miles an hour, man. That what. It's on your account. So. So let me get this right. Somebody stole your car, hacked into your account, and did this. Boy, they really. Did they really hate you. So I think that's the thing that he's up against Ocho and Joe. I think the thing is, I think he can still play. I think he has value. But how much value? I know you got to get up, Ocho. I know you got to sell something you moving, man. I know you don't want to take all this stuff with you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it is awesome.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want 500 off of this, I give you 50. Or pack it up and take it with you.

[Ocho]

And you know what you also got to understand is, is he wants out so bad that he was. He was willing to give up that kind of money and say, you know what? I want to get out here so bad, I'm gonna give you all that back. My freedom to go elsewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't like nothing.

[Ocho]

Listen, and, Joe, I'm with you when you're right, I don't. 26 million had his back. I just want to get up out of here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me too. Guess what? You can still want to leave somewhere with a bag full of money.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I've never seen anything like it before. A lot of people, obviously, they won't understand the context unless you. You've been a part of the business and understand how the business works and understanding that. And he just doing everything he can to be able to get out of there, which is why he was willing to give that money up so he can go somewhere else. So. So let me make sure you get some value for him, though. I know that.

[Joe]

So, Uncle. Oo, y' all tell me what team is gonna put belief in him thinking, you know, not thinking that he gonna do the same thing to them who gonna give him a long term deal to where? He ain't getting no long term deal from that after acting like this, bro,

[Ocho]

you know what, Joe? He might not get a long term deal, but I think he gonna get a deal. It's gonna call. You got to come in here and prove it. You got to come here and prove yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What we call you gonna get approved deal.

[Ocho]

Especially coming off that acl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, but he's two years. Remember Ocho? He did that two years ago. Last year he rehabbed. Yeah. So he should be good.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, he can go, Joe.

[Joe]

No, no, I know he can go, but at the same time, man, y' all don't know how injuries. Well, y' all do, but you know how injuries can affect you sometime, bro, when you can't get out there and compete and play. You know, to me, I understand metaphorically what he was saying. I understood all that, but at the same time, bro, I mean, some of the antics he's been doing, bro, he got, I mean, to. To have another team take a liking into you, to want to take a chance on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, bro.

[Joe]

Sometimes I'll be wondering what some of these cats be thinking, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. Like I said, I don't get it. I. I can. I can still. Look, Ocho, I might be looking for another job. How many people on a job looking for another job? Hey, until that job comes available, I ain't leaving those right income. I mean, now some people just quit and, hey, quit their job and pack their stuff up and go way over here. Nah, I put my faith in the Lord. I put my faith in him too, but I ain't gonna be no fool. Look, look, look.

[Joe]

We 1 percenters, bro. Yeah, like you ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean let's, you ain't making this type of money, bro. On a year to year basis at

[Shannon Sharpe]

the foot, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. They're few and far between. Every once in a while you get a Tom Brady situation or you'll get a Tony Romo situation, you'll get a, a Chris Collins work. But think about what we just said. I ain't name before people. Hell, they've been 25000 men to play in the NFL. You know. Hey, hey. I mean yeah, you get a situation like Ocho and I and yourself, Joe, we do good that we don't have to mess with our savings because we have jobs we that bring in income and we don't have to touch our savings and hopefully atlant for a rainy day. But everybody is not like that.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Ocho]

You know what the scary part is, Uncle Joe? Is that position. There's so many that can do exactly what he does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

There's so many, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Do exactly what he does. And they, they, they younger too.

[Joe]

They younger, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they just, and they just had the draft, man.

[Joe]

Yeah, they just had to like this game.

[Ocho]

This game. It will move on without you, man.

[Joe]

It's easy.

[Ocho]

Stop.

[Joe]

It's easy. It's easy for you to get faded out, bro. I'm telling you man. Look, yeah, I, I, I, I took this with pride and dignity. I'm talking about when I got into the NBA, uncle. Oo. I want to maximize as much money as I can make. I want to maximize my potential. And it was on a night to night basis. I ain't gonna lie. I was nervous and scared as I don't know what to get out there and compete against some of the guys I grew up watching, idolizing. But I took that fear bro, and embraced it. You know what I mean? Like I ain't, man, I never, I never thought about, you know, some of the crazy stuff I've seen some of these guys do who are professional athletes, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe]

I just to mess up my money. Oh, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And my thing is is that I knew or when you young, you think you're gonna play forever. Oh yeah. I got me a good 15, 20 year career. And, and, and, and then when you wait, I mean you go to bed one night, you wake up, you're in year five, you close your eyes again, you're in year ten. You like.

[Ocho]

Damn, it go by so fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It go by so fast. Professional athletes are not like unless you're a golfer, you can have an extended career play, you know, minus injuries, but for like a basketball, football player. Obviously, baseball players can play a little longer because it's not as much wear and tear on the body. But you're not going to have no lawyer, no doctor career where you playing 25, 30 years, you can forget that. So where doctors and lawyers might make their money over a long period of time, you make your money in a finite period of time, make as much money as you can in that 5, 10, 15 year window. You, if you're fortunate enough to get to 20, have at it. But make as much money as you can because the likelihood of when your career is done, of you making that kind of money, everybody ain't gonna be no damn Michael Jordan. I'm sorry, I hate to tell you,

[Joe]

I hate to bring it to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You not gonna be LeBron. And you're not gonna be all. Yeah, a lot of these guys, not Joe, they're making so much money now. Oo. When they play, they ain't worried about nothing. These guys making 4, 5, $600 million, even after taxes. And you pay everything, you still should have 200 million. Making 8%, you ain't even touching the principal. And you living up 15, 20 million dollars a year. That's if you spend.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's different now than when, Ocho, when you and I played, man. Hey, man, I remembered. Hey, I remember getting them to, you know, every. We got paid. What do we got paid every two weeks and getting a check for fifty five hundred dollars.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

that's all you. Yeah, boy, I ain't never seen 55. I ain't never seen a thousand dollars at one time. And you took. Well, once I got. My brother would send me if I did something really good. But to have. I mean, I remember I got my first check. Joe, don't yo, that thing say $5,511, man. I went to the bank, cash the whole check. I gotta bring this home, put this on. Hey, that lady said, My Mr. Sharp, would you like to open account? No, I like. You open that door and give me $511. That's what I'd like for you to do. Don't ask me no question, lady. And don't call nobody, say, Shannon Sharp just took out $5,500. Because I got to go home and I got to see this 5,500 laid out on the bed.

[Ocho]

Hey, George, I remember them days, boy.

[Joe]

Man, like.

[Ocho]

Like the meat potatoes of your career, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Seeing that check every Monday, you know, direct to pie. But Just going up there, getting that check and seeing that, you know, 300,000, 350,000 every, every Monday. Joe,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, I used to go get my check. They like, well, you want. You know what, Joe, you know, I only got direct deposit in the last six. In the last three years. Yes. Fox told me they would not send me my check. I would have to get a direct deposit prior to that. Everybody sent me my check. Damn, I gotta see it. I need to see it. They gotta see it. Hey, hey, Alex, our financial guy used to name the.

[Joe]

Alex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Alex, I need to get that. Get in there. Hey, Shannon, how you doing? I do a lot better when you

[Joe]

have, you see the big numbers. What? 700, 700K.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you know, it should be so funny, you know, Monday we go in there, everybody go up, they get their checks. Yeah, they'd be down in the locker room.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

And compare, Compare, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold that thing.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it used to be so. Yeah, so funny, man. And them boy be down there wilding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I like to. And I like. See, I just like to hold my money sometimes. Yeah, I messed up the, the, the Broncos payroll. They sent me a check. I deferred in 99. I deferred a large part of my money and they sent me. But I, I, I had forgot. I deferred it on Joe and Joe. So when they sent it to me, I'm thinking, okay, it's a little sub, you know, look, you know, maybe a little $5,000. I had think I in the drawer. They called me like a month later. They like, shannon, we sent you a check. I said, yeah, yeah, I got it, I got it. They like, is something wrong? I was like, nah, it's in the drawer. They're like, we gonna cut you another and just tear that one up. We're gonna cut you another one.

[Joe]

How much was it?

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I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I

[Joe]

don't trust much of anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the rage bait.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Malcolm Glebel]

We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America.

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[Joe]

Hello.

[Malcolm Glebel]

Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.

[Malcolm Glebel]

I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of

[Ocho]

a community, and ultimately they want to

[Shannon Sharpe]

be part of a winning team.

[Malcolm Glebel]

You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.

[Malcolm Glebel]

To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.com Ferrari

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think almost $2 million. Joe. I didn't, Joe. It didn't d. Joe. It didn't dawn on me. I forgot that, that my agent and I said we were gonna defer the money. So I'm just, you know, I'm just. I think it's a regular check. I'm not. You know what, you know what it was? I just thought it was like, Thought it was like $50,000. I ain't in no rush to cash no $50,000 check. But it was like. And I just like, Mr. They're just like, shannon, we're gonna issue. Reissue you a check because they had messed up. Because they look like. Hold on. Why is almost $2 million still outstanding? From, from the, from the cow. And it's like, damn. They called me. It was right in the drawers on my bedside table. Hadn't even opened anything. But I, I, I.

[Joe]

Cash.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They told me, they told me to go cash it.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, no, no, no. Until 2016, I didn't have direct deposit. No, no, you just send me. CBS sent me. Send me my check. I need to get that Broncos. Give me my check. The Ravens. Let me get that right.

[Ocho]

But I tell you one thing, boy, that man upstairs been good. Joe.

[Joe]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. Not good.

[Ocho]

He's been great. He's been great. Because to go from what it used to be, what I was playing into, to fall off that mountain, to climb my ass and work my ass off to get back to that mountain.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Ocho]

And now I got about 50, 11 jobs and Adam checks looking the exact same way they used to damn near 15 years ago.

[Joe]

Hey. Hey. He may not come when you want him to, but he always on time.

[Ocho]

Always on time.

[Joe]

But listen, it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you. But you. But you know what, Joe? I think the thing is for me is that I appreciate it because I remember working for $5 a day. I remember working for 12 a day. I remember working for 16 a day. I remember catching a thousand chickens for a dollar. A thousand. After working in the fields and making $5 a day and my uncle blowing the horn and me and my brother going out there. Because our crew was mainly our cousins. Me, Spanky, Lanny, Eugene, Arnel, Robbie, Bernard. Sometime it was about. It was about eight of us, but the, the oldest one, we're all, for the most part. Arnel was the oldest. Cause he a year younger than my sister. He was the oldest. We had like two dudes, like, within their 20s, but most of us are teenagers. Yeah, make it a dollar A thousand and the most we catch because we had a small. Because we were young, small crew with 16,000. So that's 16 plus the $8 or the $12 that I made. So now that's $28. 28. Back in the 70s, I don't know if y' all noticed, I don't want to break it to you, Was a lot of Damn money. Yeah, $28 was a lot of damn money. And to go from making $28 to a thousand dollars a day or five thousand or ten if you can't appreciate that. That's why I appreciate everything I get. And you said, man, damn, you holding everything. You damn right, you. Absolutely. I still got the fax machine. I still got all that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't let nothing go. Absolutely not. Because I work too hard and I know how hard it was to get it, and I appreciate it.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey. That's where you and your brother get that damn get up and get out from, huh? Chasing them damn chicken. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. No, but we got to get out for catching pigs. No, because the chickens are the chicken house. Well, I know you, you're in Arkansas. Purdue, I think, but where's Purdue at? Is Purdue in Arkansas? The chicken? But if you're in the state of Georgia, if you eat Claxton, if you eat the Claxton Porsche plant, anybody that's passed through A301 and plants right through there on the right hand side. If you're coming down and headed towards Glenville heading south, or if you're going back the other way, it's on the right hand side, left if you're coming down, right if you're going back. There's a place called Clack Fortune Plant. That's who we work for. That was the chicken thing. So we worked. So the chickens came, and you work from Sunday through Thursday. You didn't work on Fridays and Saturday because the place was closed. Saturday, Saturday. Excuse me, Saturday and Sunday. So the last load we got Thursday, so they processed that on Friday. So use off Saturday and Sunday. And then they brought Sunday, they. They brought the load back in right there for the. The Monday morning. So you got deboners, you got, you know, pluckers and things like that. But it made us appreciate working those long, long hours. And people like now when we, you know, we went 14 straight days, we did 27 days of 31 in May. That's what y' all did. Now, me, I taped seven episodes of Club J shape. So now I did 34 shows in 31 days. Damn, plus the other stuff I had to do for laportier. So for me, hard work, it don't bother me because the way I look at it, you know, I look at it, guys, I worked that hard for the Broncos, for the Ravens, for Fox, for cbs, espn. You mean. Tell me I can't work that hard for my damn self?

[Joe]

Hello? What's wrong with you when you're right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, nah, that don't. That. And, and plus like, you know, I had all the key. I had all my kids last night we went to dinner and, and it's, it's a rarity that I all get them all together, obviously. My youngest daughter, she's the in finishing up residency and key and is married. And so, you know, try to get the kids and, and my daughter in law here and Kayla doing her own thing. But I got the kids together and I, I looked around, I'm like, damn, I got all my babies in one spot. It's been a while since I had them all together. And I could honestly say they hard workers now. They, they, they, they. I mean, they got, you know, my youngest, my oldest, she got the drive and she's starting to see like, if I really, really won't, I'm gonna have to like, get to this other gear. Kind of like my. Because she cut. Because all my kids ask myself like, dad, when are you gonna slow down? I say, slow down. And do say, tell me what your dad gonna.

[Joe]

Hello?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Slow down. What am I gonna do? Am I going to do sit around and do what? OO and Joe, I've been home. I've been home since Tuesday. My TV has been on twice, about to watch the spurs game, and I'm

[Ocho]

like,

[Shannon Sharpe]

it really dawned on me today. I was like, sh. If I don't talk to Bucket, if I don't talk to Burns. This dude called me today. Hey, I'm in Atlanta. I was like, okay, hey, let's do something. What we gotta show.

[Joe]

Hey, hey,

[Shannon Sharpe]

let's go. Let's go to the city. I said, ocho, I got a show, Ton. We got a show tonight. And I gotta get up in the morning. I got to be on a flight. Hey, what about breakfast? I said, bye.

[Joe]

He called me on that same type of time. Hey, hey, man, I'm in Atlanta. Let go. Hit up what I asked him, I said, damn, ain't we working tonight, O Joe? He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We go up there for man. Boy, please.

[Ocho]

Hey, you see, See what I'm talking about? You see how y'. All. I, I, I Come out. I come to the city. I know UNC was here. Joe, I promise you. When I think we did the show, what, two nights ago, I said I'm come so we can go to Cosmo Atlanta.

[Joe]

Yeah, we gonna link tomorrow. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Y' all ain't believe I was coming. Yeah, I come in town. Y' all don't want to hang with

[Joe]

me because you done cry wolf so damn much. We don't know when you was here.

[Ocho]

Well, I, I, I, I. Well, I'm. I'm here. So we'll be going to breakfast. Uncle Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I got a manicure pedicure in the morning.

[Ocho]

Wait, that. That could wait until we eat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro, I gotta get on the flight. My flight leaves at 11:30.

[Ocho]

Catch another flight. What are you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got to get to Denver. I got stuff planned. I got stuff.

[Ocho]

I'm sure whatever's in Denver could wait until you have lunch with your two co hosts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could have. Guess what? Me and my two co hosts, we gonna have a week off where we all off together.

[Ocho]

When is that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

After we. After the World Cup? The 20th.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, man. Listen, we going to breakfast tomorrow morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all see this?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you've been. You've been to Toast?

[Joe]

Yeah, they got. Oh, man, they got some good food in there.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, so, hey, we gonna go to Toast tomorrow at 7:00am Seven? Yeah. So you got enough time? Cause he got a flight at 11:30.

[Joe]

Are you gonna be up at 7?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, I'll be there. Let's go, let's go.

[Ocho]

I want to talk about. Hey, I'm gonna pay. I'm gonna pay, too.

[Joe]

All right, all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I sure hope it ain't.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

No way.

[Joe]

How you know it Toast gonna even be open at 7?

[Ocho]

I'm gonna call.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't start.

[Ocho]

I'm. Call Steve. I know, I know, I know. The owner, you know? Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, we all gonna hang out and stuff. Yeah. Hey, Joe, don't forget tomorrow. You gonna pick me up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I can't pick you up.

[Ocho]

Hey, what you drag? Can I smoke in your car?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

What kind of car? What you gonna drive?

[Joe]

Joe, come on. Come on, man. Come on, man. You add a lot. You asking police questions now?

[Ocho]

Hey, Josh, want to pull up my style? So I got.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right.

[Ocho]

Hey, I want to be outside the window. Yeah. Y' all see me and Joe, man,

[Joe]

Toast don't open up to 9:00am Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, you out of gas. Oh, I have to catch you next time.

[Joe]

They don't open up to 9:00am Nothing open up in no damn 7:00 clock. But Waffle House. Aha.

[Ocho]

Okay. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I catch it. We catch. Hey, I catch y' all next time around.

[Ocho]

I only come to Atlanta one time a year, so we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll be back.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. Let's go to Vegas, bro.

[Ocho]

Who?

[Joe]

Let's go to Vegas.

[Ocho]

Man, that's five hours away.

[Joe]

Damn. What's wrong with that? You like to travel dab.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You make it seem like you walking. The hell you know.

[Ocho]

Hey, Allegiant. Frontier ain't got no WI FI on their plane.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hop on Delta.

[Joe]

You can't get no Delta flight.

[Ocho]

Well, you know how much Delta cost?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Delta. Hey, yeah, I know how Delta.

[Joe]

I know too.

[Ocho]

Y' all tripping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm thinking about catching this up in my mouth. I'm look.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm looking for a reason to go to Vegas. Hell,

[Shannon Sharpe]

would you go. What'd you try to come to Vegas?

[Joe]

I gotta go across town. I gotta go across town, see a man by.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you want to see. Oh, so you gotta see a man about a horse. Hello.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

You try to get on the table, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

I mean, if y' all want to go do something, we could do a little something now. We, you know, play a little blackjack, throw some crap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, first of all, Ocho ain't gonna do nothing. He want to go to the five dollar table where the table's crowded.

[Ocho]

I paid. I. Hey, Joe, I get 200 out the ATM and I played the 25 table. Blackjack.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we gotta play at least.

[Ocho]

That ain't happening. Not over here. No, sir. No, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Ocho]

No, sir. 25 table, boy. Once my 200 run out, I'll watch y' all play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, man, that ain't gonna be long. Hey, you get a bad. Hey, Joe. He get a bad. Shoot.

[Ocho]

Hey, the last time. The last time when we went to watch the Canelo Bud fight at my hotel, Joe, I paid the 25 tables. Yeah, I walked away with 700.

[Joe]

Oh, really?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Walked away with 700. I. I know. I know when to get up out of there.

[Joe]

How many people's at your table?

[Ocho]

Three.

[Joe]

Three got. Do you know him?

[Ocho]

Nah. They were helping me, though.

[Joe]

Oh, okay, Okay.

[Ocho]

I don't know how to play blackjack that good. I know I got to be the dealer, but the people next to me were helping me.

[Joe]

All right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, see, I don't lack all the talking.

[Joe]

You be locked in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They be want to talk. Hey, aren't you. Which one which one of you don't you play? Look at bro. These don't care nothing about that.

[Joe]

You trying to win a little money. They trying to hold their conversation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got all the conversation, man. We hey get back to the table. Hey, keep talking.

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[Narrator/Advertiser]

I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I

[Joe]

don't trust much of anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the rage bait.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Malcolm Glebel]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little bit.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

NBC News brings you clear reporting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's meet at the Facts.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

Let's move forward from there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

NBC News Reporting for America.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

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[Malcolm Glebel]

Hello? Hello, this is Malcolm Glebel from Smart talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari hp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari.

[Malcolm Glebel]

I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ferrari fans and super fans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of

[Ocho]

a community, and ultimately, they want to

[Shannon Sharpe]

be part of a winning team.

[Malcolm Glebel]

You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology. And digital channels, are they enabled to create a deeper connection with our fans?

[Malcolm Glebel]

To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit IBM.com ferrari

[Shannon Sharpe]

hey, check this out. A post is going viral after a woman tweeted, 6th date with this guy. I'm bringing over banana cotta and spaghetti meatballs. We're having. Oh, no, Joe. People are arguing that he should be coming over or she should cook it at his house. What you saying, Joe? Ocho, Joe, you first. What. What's going on?

[Joe]

First off, you don't eat. You don't eat. Nobody know anybody's spaghetti. Now, I think we all. We all know that that's a rap already. We ain't. Nah, nah. Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She got.

[Joe]

We gotta come up with a better dish than this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we can have pork chops, stewed

[Joe]

chicken oxtails, but some damn spaghetti, Mac and cheese.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I ain't. I ain't nobody spaghetti.

[Joe]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You cook that at your elder. First of all, even if I see you cook it, you ain't. First of all, you ain't gonna cook no spaghetti at my house, and I'm gonna eat it. I'm not gonna come into your house and eat your spaghetti. No spaghetti. Like I say, ain't nothing. Red, you cook it.

[Joe]

What she got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pizza? None of that.

[Joe]

She got some mean meatballs in that old boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They look good. Hey, they look good. Now they. I ain't saying now. If we were at a restaurant, I wouldn't eat it. I'm just saying. Yeah, she could.

[Joe]

Yeah. What's up with the. With that myth, bro? Why. Why we. You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I. I'm just going by what the old pope. Old people told me when I was a kid. Them old man. And they passed it down. I'm just passing it down now.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I take their word for it. Cause most of the. Most of the stuff that we hear got passed down. It's passed down. I mean, when it was thunder, lightning, when it. My grandmother. We cut off every electronic. We took the phone off the hook. We put the. We put a sheet over the mirror because they said spirits came out of the mirror. So we covered it up so they couldn't get their ass out of there. You couldn't talk. You get away from the windows. You unplug everything. Cu. Boy, look here, if you want to get my grandma hot.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be talking. It's already hot in the house. So we had the isolated fan. Ain't nothing. I ain't asked no question. Mary Porter said, hey, this. This Y and B. Until this day, I. I don't do none of that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The fan going. Now. I don't do no talking. I do cut the TV off, but as far as. I ain't covering no. I ain't covering no mirrors and unplugging all that stuff. But when we was growing up, we had all that. Get away from the windows, unplug everything, cover. Take the phone off the hook and. And put a sheet over the mirror.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. You let people cook for you?

[Joe]

Joe, my lady.

[Ocho]

Yeah. You let people cook for you. You let me cook for you or whoever. Seeing a day.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Not. Not out the rip now. Not at the rip, not off the rip. It ain't gonna be no. Hey, hey. I want to cook for you. No, you're not. No, you don't.

[Joe]

Ah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to get, like, six months. You got to get about six months. Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I ain't. I ain't with it.

[Joe]

You don't. You. Your lady don't cook for you. You don't want.

[Ocho]

I would. I've been nobody I've ever dated. I don't. I don't care if that's a part of your skill set, knowing how to cook. I. I just. There's something that's. That's not a prerequisite for me. A lot of men, you know, they. They want someone that can cook, and that's just. That's never been something that. That. That I require, Joe. I don't know why. Because, you know, I like to go places.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Go out and eat Even if it's the smallest meal, I'd rather go somewhere and eat, you know, at a restaurant and be able to, you know, take care of the service industry. Yeah, like, I don't just don't like women. I don't want you slaving behind no stove, you know, even if you can, you know, that's cool. If you're able to, that's fine. That's just something I don't require, you know? And a lot of people make fun of me, like, oh, you know, you say you need to. Ain't nothing like having a woman that can cook. I will. Well, if I wanted to date a chef, I would date a chef.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had a couple that, hey, I promise you, I promise you as far as cooking, ain't nobody beating them. I had one. She go to any Restaurant, Mastro, State 48. Any place she could taste it and go home and make it the next day.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oxtail October, you name it. Oxtails, ribs, chicken, you name it.

[Ocho]

I know it's weird, Joe.

[Joe]

They say, they say the best, the best way to get a man is through a stomach.

[Ocho]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I used to be trying to be in their stomach, so I guess it's fair.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you see who it is, Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what I mean?

[Ocho]

See how you went left field?

[Joe]

Hey. Oh. Oo. That's why you and him fighting for number one.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe]

Eating food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And here he go.

[Joe]

He can't help it. Oh, he's just like you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can't help. He a little more, he a little

[Joe]

more, you know, he a little more dim with his, as you kind of bright out there with joy. You know what I'm talking about?

[Ocho]

No, I, I, I've been talking about food and not, not. He just left field in people's stomach.

[Joe]

He can't, he can't help it. Oh, Joe, don't make him no bad brother because he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on, Joe. This man talk about, he talking about food and all he talk about is grocery.

[Ocho]

That's all they talk about, Joe. Did I mention anything about that tonight? I've been, I've been nice and cool and humble, you know, un way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad, my bad, my bad. But I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie, Joe. That look good now. Yeah, that look good. But you know what I did? I went when I was in, when I was in Florence, I would, you know, when I went on my, my vacation, you know, I went way over the Rome it took the train a couple hours up to Florence. That family. That family cook. That family cook. Man, I had a noki.

[Joe]

I had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I'm talking about they making everything from scratch.

[Joe]

You went over there and had a time. Boy, I see eyes. I could tell. I can tell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But every time you.

[Joe]

Hey. Every time you talk about that moment, boy, you skinning and grinning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

[Joe]

No, you had a time of your life. Trampoline

[Ocho]

ate their food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe]

He ate more than some damn food over there, I'll tell you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's it. There you go. You, too. Nicely joked. Do you cross.

[Joe]

I'm just keeping it 100.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, Joe, Joe, the saying is, you cross the Rubicon. That's. That's too far. That's too far, Joe.

[Ocho]

There, y' all see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what I talking about? Oh, you see what I'm talking ch. Let see what he tried to be, Joe. Try to be subtle with it. Hey, hey. Oo. Oo. He ate.

[Ocho]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't all he ate. Ain't nobody. We talk. We talk about the people cooking. I say the people made the. The. The noi and all this stuff. The. The Italian cuisine from scratch and the bread and all this. And here he goes now. Y' all should get an opportunity to see Joe. Hey, listen. Truly.

[Joe]

Listen, Ocho. That don't make y' all no bad brothers. Cause y' all freaked out like. They don't make y' all no bad brother.

[Ocho]

No, I ain't got nothing to do with it. That's. Y', all, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

Y' all still some good dude, man, it's okay. It's okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Embrace it. All I know is I'm out of this three. I'm the. I'm three man. Don't even believe that, Ocho. One. Joe. Two.

[Joe]

Don't let Joe ain't know what they chat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chat. What they say about them quiet ones. Chat. What they say about.

[Ocho]

Joe definitely won.

[Joe]

Look, look how they trying to put all the fingers at me. It point. You point.

[Ocho]

I called Joe today. He said, nah. I say, joe, why you answer? I FaceTime. I FaceTime Joe as soon as my plane landed. Yeah, right, Because I was calling Joe to pick me up because I ain't gonna pay for no Uber. I hit Joe back about three hours later. I say, Joe, I FaceTime as soon as I landed. Where you was at? Oh, man, I was. I was tied up. I was in handcuffs. I say, oh, you don't. Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it got something, I said, I

[Joe]

said, I was tied up. Ropes and handcuffs. You Know what I mean? I was out of pocket. I was doing other things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean?

[Joe]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't me.

[Joe]

Nah, look, see, this was Misery Loves Company, right? Then when y' all trying to. Yeah, I see what's going on. Y' all deflect and throw it on me. But we already know. Chad already know. It's okay, man. Hey, I don't look at y' all no different, you know, I. I still

[Shannon Sharpe]

think that's what I'm saying. Got some good dudes. That's what I said, man. Ocho, they be asking, say, man, did y' all know Joe before he came on the show? Cause he blends so well. I said, nah, he freaky. The N word, freaky. That's why he bleeding. No, I say, proud of Joe being on the show. I. I had never spoken to Joe. I don't know if Ocho had ever spoken to Joe. Hey, I said, well, man, how he blitz?

[Joe]

But I'm just. Hey, that's all I'm saying, man. Y' all some good dudes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say, because him and Ocho. Birds of a feather. When you have a seat. Let me ask you a question. You ever see penguins and pigeons hanging?

[Joe]

Nope. Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Birds of a feather. Penguins hang with penguins. Pigeons hang with pigeons. Hawks hang with hawks. Eagles hang with eagles.

[Joe]

I'm an eagle. I'm soaring up above all the rest. You hear me? I ain't. I ain't down there low fruit hanging. I ain't doing all that. I just increase my altitude when they ain't get. You know, I mean, I just keep going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I tell you, I. I'll be the vulture. I'm eating everything on the ground.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, who's surprised by that? Who's surprised that he's a boy? Ain't nobody surprised by that.

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