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Uncle Joe
Man.
Joe
Really that simple? You cannot let them get to 70 at the half because they can play at a place most teams can't get to the number that they can get to.
Uncle Joe
Right? Right.
Joe
I mean you did a great job. You had them to 29 in the first and then they damn near get 40 in the second. You get over 30 plus in the third, you're not going to be OKC if you allow them to play like that. If you give them that many second chance opportunities. Yeah, if you do not do a better job of keeping them off the three point line and tonight they were going down because a lot of those shots they had in game four they had some of the same shots. They just didn't knock them down. They knocked them down tonight. But you better not give them too many chances at you because guess what? They're going to make you pay for those. Joe how were the Thunder able to regroup? Joe because we saw them get blown out in game four by 20 plus and they come back and they win by 13 tonight. What was the difference between game four and in game five?
Uncle Joe
The difference to me and oo you got to look at ch. Look, look how he came out aggressive, how he started the game he in. In the first half, he had 12 points. Now, I know he only finished with 16, but I thought he was assertive, you know, in that first half to start the game, when everything was looking, you know, it wasn't looking great for Shay. Shay wasn't playing well, you know, and he's addressed that and he's addressed that. But I thought check picked it up with. With his aggressiveness, you know, having that thrust of getting to the rim, trying to make plays, and he got a few to go down. And y' all know, man, in this league, all it takes is for one or two to go down and you get a little confidence. And I thought he got off to a great start. Caruso has been unbelievable. He has been unbelievable. I'm talking about. Cause when he comes in the game, it's never a letdown, bro. It's either we keep it steady or he take you to another level. I think he's been great. You look at McCain, who stepped right in. He don't mind. Look, he don't have the prettiest game because as a guard, you know, when you see guys bringing the ball up, he don't really. He don't move with that fluidity, you know, like a. Like a Kyrie or Shay or, you know, guys like that. But he's so effective, bro. He gets it done, and he's not afraid of the moment. Shay needs another guard next to him who don't mind, you know, putting up some shots, you know, and making big shots. I think okc, man, they came out and put their step on the game. Home court advantage is going to come to play in this series. I don't think OKC can win game six. But they look great.
Joe
I mean, you look at it, Jerry McCain had the same number of shots as Shay.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Both of them got the ball up 19 times. He's not afraid he will. Hey. On a kick out where you might say, hey, pull. No. Hell, no. He's like, nah, nah, nah. This shot to go up. This shot going up. Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
You have the Spurs?
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
They came out, and I thought they played good. They got OKC to call a timeout, and then right out of the timeout, guess what? The spurs get the ball back. Turnover. What they do again? Turnover. At some point in time, Joe Ocho Castle has to do a better job of taking care of the basketball, and he's got to stop. I understand, Joe. I don't want to rob him of his aggressiveness, but, Joe, you picking up files 90ft from the basket. That's crazy. And you're going to put him in the penalty. So now they're in the penalty with six minutes to go.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
The whistle is all the. The ref whistle is already on a hair trigger. You put them and Shay's gonna have the ball 90% of the time, 16 to 17 from the free throw line.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
How your team gonna get back in this thing?
Ocho
Listen, I, I don't, I don't know. They need to have a conversation. We talked about this so in length already a few games ago about Castle and it. In, in, in. I asked you and uncle Joe, you, you and I asked Joe, what can the coach tell Castle where he can still be himself and play with controlled aggression without fouling so much, without getting in so much foul trouble? There were two things that's wrong with him. He's fouling. He's fouling too early, too often, and he's turning the ball over at a high clip and it's putting his team in harm's way.
Uncle Joe
Hey, here's the problem we got here. I'd rather have my dog out there barking, getting down and I had to pull it. I had to pull him back a little bit versus, versus me having to push him out there saying, you know, sick and go get him. You feel what I'm saying?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
You gonna have to live with some of these mistakes that Castle's gonna make, bro. He, he, he. He's a young, he's a young guy. Hey, listen, he's guarding a two time MVP who shot 53% from the field throughout the regular season. He's only had one game in this series to where he shot 50% and I think that was like game two and I think he had 30 points. He was right at 50%. So I'm not, I mean, I understand Castle has made some mistakes, but we can kind of, you know, we're gonna have to make do with some of them mistakes. We're gonna have to pick it up in other areas. You know what I mean? I just think beat for, for the spurs to win in OKC again. Obviously I think it'll have to be a Game 7, but I think it's going to be tough, bro. They, they're role players play too great at home.
Joe
Yes, I agree and I think. Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead.
Ocho
I was going to say outside of that, we didn't get much from a sale tonight. We didn't get much from Fox tonight. Wimby wasn't whimmy obviously most of the time averaging 30. He only had 20 champagne. You know, he had. He was 8, 15 PO faith from 3 Hartenstein. Did one hell of a job. Did one hell of a job on Wimby and not really allowing that many second chance points for the Spurs. I mean, they. They just played well. And that goddamn Crusoe again. And we talk about him every, Every, every series, you know. You know, to this point. And he's playing extremely well. Extremely, extremely well. And he's. He's been a huge different maker for them, man.
Joe
The thing is, Joe, I get what you're saying about not wanting to. To. To. To. To try to harness him too much, but I think the thing is he breaks their momentum. Yeah, Joe, we got a eight, we got a seven, eight point lead. And then he gives up couple of turnovers and commit five. It's a tie ball game.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
And that's. And that's what we saw tonight. And then a couple of times, I'm like, bro, where are you passing the ball to?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, he get. He get a little out of control now. Yes.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And. And I'm looking at Dylan Harper, bro. You got one of the best own ball defenders in front of you, and you try to get cute, and guess what? He going the other way with it, bro. You don't got handles like Kyrie. You don't have those kind of handles. Maybe eventually you will, but understand who you're going up against. There are certain situations, Joe, you just gotta go. Yeah, all that fancy drip. It looks good. I mean, you had. Oh, look at him dancing. Oh, hell, he. He going. He's snatching back. Oh, he go again.
Uncle Joe
He.
Joe
Here he come and he. You put that ball in front of him.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Thank you.
Ocho
Hey, the funny thing about it, Joe, too, when you. When you had finished that like that, that are very good, especially lottery. They can move them puppies left and right.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
It's the same thing with a db if, you know, you have a db that's very good in man to man.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
You always want to put the pressure on them first.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Cause you sitting there dancing and trying to be cute. All that does is plays into their hands.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
It makes it. It's an advantage for them. What you playing around. Pick a side, make one move and just go.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Hey, look, look, as. As a young player, bro, you have to learn that on the fly. Y' all gotta remember now, Dylan Harper, he's a rookie. But I agree, I agree with you, Unc. You got to get the hell up off that ball and you got to know who Guarding you. All that playing. You got to get at you all that.
Ocho
Ha ha.
Uncle Joe
Is getting one high, one high and it's time to go. You can't be playing around, bro.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey. Hey, Joe.
Uncle Joe
How many?
Joe
How many?
Uncle Joe
One high. High. Go get by you playing.
Joe
Cause the next was gonna be he.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, look, you playing around with the wrong one. You got to know who you can
Joe
do that with and who you can't.
Uncle Joe
You know what I mean? Because them turnovers that they would. That they were having him, Harper and Castle. Yeah. They were leading the buckets, bro.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
They were demoralizing. I understand what y' all saying. They. They got to get better in that aspect.
Joe
And I get chat what you said. Well, Castle only had three turnovers. You don't understand. What if somebody only has one drop, but it's on fourth down in the fourth quarter and you turn the ball over.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
So you only. When he only had one drop. That's an important drop.
Ocho
Yes.
Joe
So you understand. So you just look at the number. See, I look at the situation in the ball game where we are.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
And we got momentum now. He gets two of those turnovers and create files. We got a seven, eight point lead. Guess what? Ball game's tied.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Tonight Hardenstein outplayed Wimby. Wimby is setting up too far outside. He ain't get nothing easy, Joe. He got to get down on the block some. I'm not saying he has to spend the lion's share of his time down there, but he's got to get closer to the basket. Everything. He's catching the ball damn near the three point line.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Cause he don't want that resistance. Oh, he get inside the three. We got. We got this elbow in his back. We got these arms.
Joe
We push.
Uncle Joe
That's resistance that he got. He has to go against every time. He know coming into that paint, I think what happens is Chad Pennington got off to a great start and it kind of.
Joe
You mean Chad?
Ocho
No.
Uncle Joe
Oh, Chad. Penny Champion Champenney. I think he scored. I think he had like 12 points in the first quarter.
Joe
He did. He got hot.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. And I think. I think it kind of got, you know, kind of got guys off rhythm a little bit to where. Look, Fox never really got into the game. You know what I mean?
Joe
Nah, nah, he struggled tonight. I.
Uncle Joe
He did. He did. He did. And, and, and, And Versaille never really got into it neither, you know, because. Because Penny was so hot then, you know, Wimby and Harper and Castle, all those guys take over as far as handling the rock and making plays. But to me, man, I just think with the experience that OKC has, it. It. It just seems like to me they're going to prevail throughout this series.
Ocho
Hey, you know what, too, Uncle Joe? Wimby being a three level score and the fact that he's allowing Hardenstein to make him one dimensional because he doesn't want to deal with the pushing and the shoving and. And fight. Excuse me, fighting his way down in the block, being able to play with his back to the basket. He can't allow them to do that. He got to find a way. I'm not sure who. Listen, I'm not a head coach. I'm. I'm just saying when you can score in a multitude of ways, you can't allow a player to dictate what you want to do.
Uncle Joe
And. And you got Hardenstein and Chase homeward. They outplayed him on them two. Them two gotta outplay Wimby
Joe
28 and 16 what they had.
Ocho
Yeah, they did tonight.
Joe
Even if you just take. Even if you just take Hardenstein. Hardenstein. I played him head up.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
And the thing is, is that what we talked about, Joe. Those two guys need to be. They need to be equal to, if not better.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Because now we've neutralized him with our two guys and now we got Shay because we know Shay's gonna win his matchup.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
So now if we get those two guys to neutralize Wimby, we good, Joe, I thought the Fishers had a bad stretch. That was a goaltending on Corning. How did they miss that? The ball went up, the ball went off. Chance foot, how do you miss that? And the ref trying to get a challenge. And y' all like, what? What? No, come on, You. You can't. Joe. You can't miss that. Now, in international rules, you can go 10.
Uncle Joe
Right, right.
Joe
Right off the rim.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
But you can't do that in the NBA. I mean, the man got. I look, I understand both of them got size 30 shoes. One got a boat, the other got a yacht. But the ball went out with chat foot. It did. It did.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, man, I don't know what the refs be looking at.
Joe
I don't know either. And Shea, 17 free throws, man. You know what I think? I'm thinking, you know what they might need to cap it. You can only shoot 10 free throws in a game. What? That's your max. They said, come on, man.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey. And when I was watching Shay, especially in that first Quarter. Uncle Ocho, his body language was, it was funky. It stayed.
Joe
Yeah, yeah. He's struggling from the field, Joe. He knows in order to, to get the numbers he's getting, I mean, he's got to go to the free throw line. And he does. Look, he's done a great job of creating that contact, but sometimes they talk about. Because the other night they called a file on Fox. Talking about Fox didn't impede his landing space.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
He likes to come down all funky.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does, he does.
Joe
But it's. I, I, I, I don't know. I, I just know is that if they're gonna knock down shots like this, it's gonna be hard for them to defend and like what they did the other night. Joe, I thought they overhelped tonight. Where in game four, they didn't overhelp. I thought they overhelped tonight and left some guys wide open. The first thing I'm gonna do is that I'm gonna run Caruso off the corner three. If you let him hit that first corner three, your ass in trouble.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Now, it's not to say that he can't hit the other points of the three, but he really loves that corner three.
Uncle Joe
He does.
Joe
And you got to get him off of it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah. Well, they got, hey, they got to make some adjustments, man, you know, because you're going to have to give up some. If you collapsing every time the ball hits the paint, that's what you give up. You're going to have to give up them sprayouts. You're going to have to give up some contested threes. You know, San Antonio has been great, I think, in man, and just isolation defense playing, playing Shay head up and not too much help. Not overextended yet. Got away from him a couple times tonight, but for the most part, man, they've kept him under wraps, bro. I'm talking about that first quarter. He was pissed off at himself. I could see it. You know what I mean? And I think they've done a great job. So if check homerich, he has to continue to be aggressive and play with that thrust. Cause he need a number two guy who gonna really come along. See, every game, his number two guy has been somebody different, Shays. So he gotta continue to, you know, hopefully somebody come off this bench and continue to come, come along for the ride. And I like, I, I like McCain. It was his first start. 20.7 for 19. And let me know you ain't scared of the moment, bro.
Joe
Cause he getting them shots up.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Joe
And I think. And the thing is, Joe, is that I thought, I thought the spurs bench didn't play bad day. I got a score of 40 to 36. But that's better than damn, 76 to 10 or 76 to 15 or the number they've been getting, I scored by, remember, Joe, plus 33 plus 34. We saw what it did happen in, in game three. Hell, they had 76 bench points. They had more points off the bench than the starters have.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
So they've done a great job tonight. They really did a great job. I thought Kelton Johnson had one of his better games.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Carter Bryant could hit a couple of shots, but they're gonna. Harrison Barnes, he. That's. That's four minutes. That's four minutes of time that I'm watching the TV I can never get back. Now. I realized at some point in time in my life I'm gonna wish I had those four minutes back. You got, but unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to get it.
Uncle Joe
You gotta chill. You got.
Joe
Man, this man here. Oh, man.
Uncle Joe
Hey, look. Hey, they didn't took Cornet out the game, though. He ain't been. I'm talking about. They go right at him.
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Joe
your traffic cone Joe Hey.
Uncle Joe
Hey. When we come off the court it looked like the land like everything part over. Everybody in their party having a good time.
Ocho
Hey Joe. Like like the Red Sea Ocho.
Joe
You took the word right out of my mouth. I said they turned into Moses. Hey, they put this. Did they put the spear in the ground and just park?
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
And the problem is is that he's not a shot blocker. So like you said Joe, the lane opens up, he rebounds. How many opportunities did they get? He got. They got the rebound and kick out for a three and they get a foul call.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
And it's like like it's like when Wimby goes to the. Shay is one of the few guys that you will ever see in your lifetime that when he goes to the bench, their team goes on a run, Right?
Uncle Joe
Absolutely.
Joe
And that's not a knock on him, Chad. I'm not saying anything, but y' all see it, so I don't know. I don't know. I don't need to preface that with a caveat. When he goes to the bench, they
Ocho
go on a run.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
It's facts.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
The next game is in San Antonio, right?
Joe
Yes. Game six Thursday night.
Ocho
Yeah, we got. We got game six. We got. We got games.
Uncle Joe
I think when Shay goes to the bench, they're less predictable.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
You know, because you got guys now the. The ball really, really hops. And, you know, everybody can penetrate the paint and spray out for threes. And then you got Hardenstein with his activity, being on the rim, getting them second chance points. That's what gets you over the hump, bro. It's the little things you're gonna have to do to continue to win or to advance to the final. So I think okc they willing to do that.
Joe
They are, but I thought. I think. I thought it was Hardenstein's activity early.
Ocho
Yes.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Being aggressive and a little bit more efficient than he has been in the past few games.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
I still need more shots from Chick, though. He. I mean, I know he was great. Six for nine, but damn, I need. I need. I. I need a few more shot attempts from him.
Joe
Well, I think the thing is, is that when McCain took 19 and Shay took 19, that's 38. Hardenstein was six of eight. But, you know, Hardenstein is gonna be dunk lobbed or it's gonna be that
Uncle Joe
floater, that thing to the moon.
Joe
He's not gonna get. He's not gonna get very many more shots than that.
Uncle Joe
Nah, nah, he don't need more than that. Hey, hey. He's shooting that floater to the moon over Wimby. Big ass
Joe
Caruso. Caruso 5 or 10. He 4 of 8. Caruso got to be shooting damn near 55, 60 for the damn three.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah. If he probably better than that. Yeah, he probably. Probably about 60% and he cash out. It seemed like every time he shoot is going in. I ain't gonna lie.
Joe
Swishing it ain't no bouncing for haul up in the air. There's some suspicion or doubt he's swishing.
Uncle Joe
And when he come into the game, bro, it wasn't like. It wasn't like they had control of the game. Like he made big shots to, to put him on run. So Caruso is a huge part of what they do, bro. He played well. It's gonna be hard to beat them.
Joe
I mean, San Antonio won points in the paint, but second chance points, OKC was plus 11. Fast break points. OKC only had nine. And I thought OKC for the most part did a better job of taking care of the basketball.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
It's just that all turnovers aren't created equal. I mean, turning them. Because sometimes your turnovers kill your runs and give them life.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
And so you can't just look at and says, well, this guy only had one turnover. Guy had two turnovers. You have to look at when you turn the ball over and what did your turnovers lead to?
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Thank you. Come on, spurs don't do me like that.
Joe
No, yeah, I think that look, you got to look at okc. They not really trying to get up off this throne. When you've been king, you'll do everything that you possibly can to keep the crown.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Ocho
But hey, J Dub not even playing, Joe.
Uncle Joe
I do. Well, here's the problem. If Fox or Harper, if both of them don't play well, I don't think they got a chance in hell of winning the game. No, because they, because both of them handle the ball too much. You know, careless turnovers, you know, not, not really making shots. It's going to be tough for San Antonio to win, bro.
Joe
But I thought Castle might have played one of his better ball games. I mean, think about it, Joe, he was 7 of 11.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
No, he, he had 24 points. Three or five from three, 7 of 8 for the free throw line. He had five rebounds, six assists. The turnovers came early. He had three steals.
Uncle Joe
Oh, that's why I say I'd rather, hey, I'd rather have to pull him back a little bit. I let him go cause he go, he playing well here. He two way, two way player. He guarding the two time MVP and he putting up these type of numbers with this type of efficiency and we, we gonna have to deal with a couple turnovers. You know what I mean?
Joe
Yes, I agree. And I think the foul. So Joe, is that coach say, look here, son, I understand, I love your aggressiveness, but we can't have you. I mean. Cause he's at five fouls every game, Joe, he getting his money worth. But it's winning because. But when it, when you pick up those files now, it takes a lot of that aggressive out of you because you picked them up so early.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
And picking file up 94ft. I mean, sometimes. I mean, the backcourt, Joe, he just run slap over the man ran slapping the run slap in the back of sga.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey. He let, he gonna let you. He gonna let you know he here. Yeah, he. He running up every time, bro. Look, he wearing Shay down, bro. Shay, it's great that he has McCain there to, to handle some of the ball handling duties because it do come a time. She be looking dead tired out there. And Castle doing his job, bro. Making him work for any and everything he get.
Joe
I mean, he played 37 minutes. Look, I mean, the, the, the spurs had three guys with 20 plus points, but they only shot 40% from the floor. They had some really good looks at some shots that didn't go down. It's a make or miss league. The other game four, they made those shots. OKC missed them. Tonight, the roles were reversed.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Now, okay, will the spurs come out and play with that sense of urgent urgency, with that sense of desperation that we saw from okc?
Ocho
Yeah. Ain't got no choice.
Uncle Joe
Well, hey, hey, hey, hey, now, now we got to put it back on WIMBY now because if he has them one of the monster games, this is what changes it. But if he plays average like this,
Joe
no, they can't win.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he can't win.
Joe
No, if you look at the games that they won, he's been phenomenal. Yeah, look at game one. Look at game four. He didn't play bad in game two. He had 21 and 17. But he, his imprint, his fingerprint wasn't on the game like it was in game one and game four. Yeah, he has to be that.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
There are very few times that your team can win a game without your superstar going off. Now, we've seen OKC win some games with shit's been. But they're, they're not there yet. They're still really, really young.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, as.
Joe
As young as this team is. This is a veteran ball club. Now, don't look like, well, man, this guy's only 24. But look, I mean, they're in there in the Western Conference Finals this year. They went to the NBA Finals and won. Last year they were in the Western Western Conference finals, if I'm not mistaken, a few years ago. So this is a veteran ball club when it comes to these type of scenarios. You know, been there, done that. And the more you, more you're in these situations, the more calming and the more at ease you are of being in these situations.
Ocho
Yeah, you Know too, when I think about it, too, if you think about what you think about Wimby not playing well tonight, right. He had what, what, 60? He had 19 tonight, right?
Joe
He had 20. He had 26 and 20 points, six rebounds, one assist, two steals, three blocks. He only had one rebound at the half, though. You can't do that.
Ocho
That's not gonna cut it. And obviously the Thunder know that. If we get. If we can nullify Wimby, not allow him to get down in the low post, not allow him to do anything for the, you know, from mid range, always have him out there at the goddamn arc, you know, trying to play from out there. He wasn't efficient from 3. So what do we do next game? We take that same formula and we try to do the same thing. So if they taking Winby away, that mean everybody else got to step up. Joe Fox can't have a night again like he had tonight. Basil can't happen tonight like he had tonight. They just can't. So what if they say, you know what? We not letting women get nothing. Everybody else is gonna have to beat us. I don't know how outside of champagne and goddamn goddamn castle. Everybody else got to step up because they might go into. They might go into the next game and say, you know what? Wimby ain't getting nothing at all.
Uncle Joe
That's where the problem you have. If he's not having one of those extraordinary type of games. Ocho.
Joe
Yep. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Then, you know, you don't really. He don't draw all that attention. See, if he gets going offensively and he's affecting the game to where, okay, boom. Now we gotta double him. And he's spraying out, he getting assists, you know, and he's scoring and getting second chance points. That's when they're. That's when they're a much better team because he opens up the floor for the guys around him.
Joe
I think the thing that they've doing that they didn't do the first two games is that they're finding him and they're putting a body on him.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Whether it's Hardenstein, whether it's Chet, whether it's Lou Dort, whether it's Shay because she got a couple of fouls.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Because he, you know, he's trying to put a body on him. He's like, I can't. I gotta hold it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
So if you notice no matter where the ball goes up, somebody got find him. Just like when you're in high school.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Find somebody and put a bone a Body on them.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. No free.
Joe
It's kind of easy when you, you know, you got a guy and he bought the shot goes up. But zone is kind of hard because you just like, okay, I'll block out an area and you let guys slip through the crack. But I thought OKC has done a great job since game two because remember Joe, he was averaging 20 rebounds a game through the first two games.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Now that's going all the way down. I don't think he's had maybe, maybe one. I don't even know if he's had another double digit rebounding game.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Because they've made a concerted effort to make sure when that ball goes up, be offensively or defensively, we've got to locate him and put a body on him.
Uncle Joe
Yep. Don't give his ass no free runs in here to the rim. None of that. Chug him every chance you get. Put a body on him. And look, hopefully throughout this series, it wears him down. Since game one and two, like Ocho, since game one and two, he ain't really had really that type of effect on the game like that, you know, from a defensive standpoint, you know, 20 rebounds. If he gets you 20 rebounds and 20 points, bro, it's hard to beat him when he, if he playing like that.
Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
And, and the thing was, he was efficient with it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Now if he gonna get, if he gonna have to take 25 shots to get 30 points and he's only gonna make 11 of them now he going 14 to 25 and getting you, Joe, getting you 18, 19, 23, 24 rebounds. You're gonna have hell on your hand because now you've got to come. They haven't had to double him. Yeah, they didn't double him tonight, so he wasn't able to locate open guys. He had a couple of careless turnovers.
Uncle Joe
But hey, and I think that, I think that physicality is messing with him though. Think about it.
Joe
He was.
Uncle Joe
Oh, he owe for five from night tonight. From three. I don't. Did he make a three? He made the last game. Did he make a three? Yeah, zero for five.
Joe
He opened up the game with a three.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Zero for five tonight, though. Seems as though, you know, he don't really have a lot of legs, which is why his rebounding is down so much. And I, I think the physicality is wearing, is weighing in on it, you know, throughout this series. And if you okc, this is what you want. We want to try to wear him down. That's all we can do, Ocho. We can't do nothing else. A boy too big man, right? Yeah, if.
Joe
Yeah, if, if, If Hardenstein and Chat plays like this again and Wimby plays like he played tonight, there will not be a game seven.
Uncle Joe
Hello?
Joe
Is really that simple. It's really that simple.
Ocho
Don't say it like that.
Uncle Joe
Don't.
Ocho
Don't say it.
Joe
No, he. Because Ocho, he has to cancel those two guys out. Yeah, I'm not counting on Cornette to give us anything. I didn't count on him to give us anything coming into the series. And the problem that you're running into Joe, like, you're right, he is getting tired because you know why he can't get a breather? Because if they're down four by the time Cornette comes in there, they're down 12, 14. And, and Coach Johnson doesn't want the game to get out of hand, so he's not able to get his normal allotment of rest because the game starts to creep away from him.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Yeah, that's the issue. Check. Shay gets his normal allotment of rest. He plays the entire second first quarter and he's not coming in to probably about seven and a half, maybe seven minutes. Every once in a while he'll come in at the eight minute mark, but for the most part, he's not coming in before seven minutes.
Uncle Joe
Nah, nah. Hey, I don't. I don't think there's no way that OKC wins Game 6, though. I'm gonna keep it real. I think this talk about Joe, I don't.
Joe
Because I thought you said Joe didn't know ball, man.
Uncle Joe
Come on, man, chill, chill, chill. Hey, you gotta chill. Hey, you gotta chill.
Ocho
You know, ball, simply because, you know, for the fact that they're going back to San Antonio, the nun's gonna be in the stands, huh? You know, once they put them hands on. On goddamn wimby, you already know what the results gonna be in game six. Go. Go ahead. Go ahead, finish.
Uncle Joe
Well, I think, I think that his
Joe
support put the hands on women. Women might give you 40 and 30. Oh, Joe, Cornette gave you seven and eight last time and they put the hands on him.
Uncle Joe
Listen, I think his supporting cast gonna play a lot better in game six.
Joe
Yeah, way better. I'll have to show. I'm have to show up to San Antonio and put these CDs on him. CDs. So. But they're gonna, they're gonna need. They're gonna need to play him. The one thing about you, you know, say about, you know, the OKC Thunder having been in this situation, they don't lose sight of the. They don't normally let opportunities slip away because, you know, look, I'm not trying to put off tomorrow for what I can do today.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Cause I know I'm a twist ankle. I'm a overreaction or something. Anything can happen. Yeah, anything could absolutely happen. So I give. Okay, you know what? Just give OKC credit. This is about OKC tonight. I don't want to take any. I don't want to say, well, you know, X, Y and Z. But I think OKC took this ball game from the way they came. Came out. Yeah. They got down early and. But they weathered the storm and when they hit back and it seems like I thought what you call was making a run. What, that third quarter.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Cut it. When they cut it. The six joke.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
Okay. I mean, they cut a 20 point lead to what? How many? Five. They cut a 20 point lead to five. Just like that.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. That's a scary. Hey, hey. And that's the scary thing because, you know, the potential that the spurs have and what they could potentially do, like, wouldn't know. It wouldn't be a lot of people surprised if the spurs won this series. But I just think some of the mistakes that they make just come back to haunt them, bro. Cause they so young.
Joe
Yep.
Uncle Joe
But they. They're never out of a game because of how hard they play and they compete, so they never gonna be out the damn game.
Joe
You.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, like you say, uncle, they. They chop back into that lead so quick. And then they say, you know, boom. A couple turnovers said, now you back down 9, 11. You know what I mean?
Joe
And I think the thing is, is that what makes you OKC so unique is that a lot of teams don't have the answer. Like when the spurs go on that run, a lot of teams can't withstand that onslaught.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
Okc, like, okay, y' all go, y'. All. Oh, y' all just went on a 14, 2 run. Watch this. Oh, my. Now they go on a 12. Two, a 12, four run.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
And push the lead right back. You cut it down to 5, 9, right back to 14. Just like that.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. So. But one thing we got to remember now, we watching two of the best defensive teams in the NBA. They probably won and two.
Ocho
Yep.
Uncle Joe
So, you know, I understand the way the game is being played and how they are. You know, it's pretty typical, you know, two great defensive teams making it hard on one another. That's why you see so many peaks and valleys. Like great performances, then you know, not as great.
Joe
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Uncle Joe
think it's going to come down to home court advantage for the next couple games.
Joe
Yeah, they're going to have to do. Kellen Johnson had five files. Castle Champagne. They got to do a better job. They got to do a better. They can't. They can't. They can't let Shay go to the free throw line 17 times. Joe. They can't. You got to keep it. I. I think. I think a good number for him is probably about 10. It's hard, huh?
Ocho
Hey, he doesn't. He didn't mastered being able to manipulate getting to the free throw line.
Uncle Joe
Well, he manipulating the system.
Ocho
He found a loophole. Hey man, it really? Well, whether people like it or not,
Uncle Joe
he is man, he's manipulating them dudes so good out there because look, he's 7 for 19 from the field. So ain't like he's shooting no hell of a percentage. Like he. He missing his fair share of shots.
Ocho
Yes.
Uncle Joe
But any chance he get, he feel a little contact. Yeah, he gonna give you a little. Little flare, a little head back like he gonna. You know what I mean? He gonna sell it now. He gonna sell it. But I don't blame him. I don't blame a lot.
Joe
I've caught fish that flopped less than Shay. Hell, I didn't know there was a lie when I pulled the ass out the water. I. I mean I ain't see. Yeah, Come on down, Joe.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah, but he got. Hey, he gotta be. He gotta be in the 30s, bro, for them to win.
Joe
Yes, yes, he does. And. And it looks like Joe, his 30 is coming from. A lot of it is coming from the free throw line because they're doing an outstanding job of forcing him to take. Like you said, if you're gonna make these difficult shots, if you're gonna make 13, 14 of the 19 shots you take, and they're gonna be difficult, I. I just. Hey, I just throw my hand. Ain't nothing I can do. Hey, I give up.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you shooting them long tools. 17, 18, 19 footers. You think you. You think Shay can make enough of them to beat us? Well, we gonna see.
Joe
And they play.
Uncle Joe
Hey, look, and they playing great defense on him, bro. Like.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
They pluck him a couple times like when last time. Y' all really see that, bro, you don't really see Shay get his pocket picked or guys pick play great of defense. But it's the same way with. With Castle and Dylan Harper. You know, Casey Wallace comes in, he picks one of their pockets. You know, in open court, like, bro, there's some good.
Joe
These, some. These guys are very good on ball defenders. They got active hands. They're young, and so they got great lung capacity.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
So, you know, that's what you got to have. I mean, because the thing is, Joe, I'm trying to wear you down.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I.
Joe
Look, I understand. I might not have an impact on you in the first quarter, the second quarter, but come late third quarter and fourth quarter now, can you still. Can you still function when you're tired? Will you still have the mental capacity late in the ball game to be as. As sharp as you were in the fourth quarter?
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
We gonna find out, you say? Yeah, we'll see.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Cause I'm gonna keep hounding. I'm gonna pick your ass up.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, and guess what.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
You might get by me a time or two. You might. You might cross me up once or twice.
Joe
Cool.
Uncle Joe
But you're gonna have to do that for 48 minutes every time. Every time you out here on the court, I'm gonna make you go into your bag. You're gonna have to show me.
Ocho
Of course.
Joe
It's gonna be very interesting to. To see who calls the game on Thursday. Obviously. We had Tony Brothers tonight. We had Capers and we had. Right.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Who we got? Oh, oh, yeah. Tony Brothers, Capers and Sean Wright worth tonight. Now, you got Ed Malloy, you got Zach Zarbo, you got Tibbins. I don't know who you know who's gonna be, but it's gonna be very interesting to see. I don't know if they get Scott Foster. He just had game four.
Uncle Joe
They need.
Joe
They call Scott the extender and you want to get him to go a little further.
Ocho
I got you.
Uncle Joe
Hey, they need to keep Tony Brothers out there though, for sure. You see him and Ms. Johnson have a little back and forth today? Yeah.
Joe
Hey you. Hey, hey.
Uncle Joe
This.
Joe
I told him. He told me just like this here.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. The coach, they. Hey, Ms. Johnson. Whole energy change once, once. Once Tony leaned in and was like, what?
Joe
What you say?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you it ain't nothing to play with.
Joe
I'm trying to figure out when. When would they know the refs, because like I said, Ed Malloy, Josh, Zach.
Ocho
Probably, probably tomorrow.
Joe
You think maybe? Yeah, maybe. But the Thunder one went away to going back to back to back NBA finals. Thanks to a 127, 114 victory. They have what they have. They had five guys in double figures. Isaiah Hardenstein 12 points, 15 rebounds. Chet Holmgren 16 points, 11 rebounds. Shay 32 points. Jerry McCain 20 points. Alex Caruso continued his hot play, great shooting from the floor. 22 points on 4 of 8 shooting from the 3 point line. He was a perfect quick from the free throw line. And they win this ball game 127 to 114.
Uncle Joe
Well, we bet ojo what we have, what we been on.
Ocho
Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Joe
Don't.
Ocho
Don't do that. You know, hey, listen, you know we ain't bad. Cause you ain't paying my 500 from the last series.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I'm like Debo. When you see me coming, you better start tucking your chain, partner. You hear me?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Cause I'm patting your pockets. Yeah, all that like. Oh, here come Joe. Let me, let me just. Yeah.
Ocho
Matter of fact. Hey, matter of fact, Joe, I'm gonna do you one better. When I see you coming, I'm put my chain on you and dare you to walk away with it.
Joe
Damn right. Here you gonna put the chain around Joe neck.
Ocho
I'm gonna put a chain.
Uncle Joe
I'm gonna run his little pockets and everything. When I see him, I'm touching my get. Look what you got for you. What you got up on you? Yeah. Okay, okay.
Joe
Hey, I'm Joe old show. The man said he about to have your pocket like rabbit ears.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Hey, hey, pick him up by by his ankles. Hey, hey, give me what you got. What you don't got, you can keep. You hear me?
Ocho
I like it, I like it, I like it.
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Ocho
I like it.
Joe
I'm sure you this isn't going to help to skip the chatter. Before the game started, fans noticed NBA store had two teams listed as finals bound.
Uncle Joe
Oh man, come on, man. Why they always trying to say I gang rigged, bro?
Ocho
Hey, hey, look, conspiracy theories.
Uncle Joe
Come on, man, y' all gotta chill.
Ocho
They say the NFL is rigged. They say the NBA is rigged. Hell, they say.
Joe
Well, how you gonna misprint like that? This was before the game.
Uncle Joe
They ain't. Hey, hey, hey. They ain't. They ain't got no crew like we got over here at Nightcap. They made mistake, huh? You know what I'm saying? They made an honest mistake.
Ocho
That was a good one.
Joe
I. I don't know how honest it is, but it's damn sure mistake. But.
Uncle Joe
But hey, hey, that's how. Hey, but why y' all playing? That's. Y' all know OKC gonna be there, man. They gonna win. They gonna win.
Ocho
Oh, simmer down, Joe.
Uncle Joe
I'm just keeping it real. I'm just telling you from my eye, from what I see.
Ocho
Well, yo, your ass been bad. Your. Your ass been like Ray Charles.
Uncle Joe
You need to chill. You gotta chill. You gotta chill, bro.
Ocho
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm not being disrespectful, honest.
Uncle Joe
All right, man.
Joe
Yeah. But I hope. I hope we can get a Game seven. We had. We had a few. We had a few. You know, we had the first round. We got Orlando and Detroit. Game seven.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
We got Toronto and Cleveland go to a Game 7. We got Cleveland and. And. And. And Detroit go to a Game seven. We can definitely use another Game seven cu. But we've had some blowouts along the way as well. Before we get to the next topic, Oo, you were right. There was more footage of you playing in te celebrity basketball game. Guys, let's take a look at this footage.
Uncle Joe
Let me see, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Here you go. This is what we do here. Here they. You smoke that one. This one on you. You had that one? Yeah, yeah, that went in.
Ocho
What y' all talk about?
Uncle Joe
No, it didn't, man. Come on, bro.
Ocho
Yeah, go ahead. What y' all looking at, Joe? Is y' all blind?
Joe
No, play it again.
Uncle Joe
Okay. Man, what's wrong with this man? Huh? That man thing. That man didn't even touch the rim, Ojo.
Ocho
Hey, y'.
Joe
All.
Ocho
Y' all must be blind, huh?
Uncle Joe
Ojo.
Ocho
It's going.
Uncle Joe
Going in, Ocho, come on, man.
Joe
Yeah, when somebody else hit it. When somebody else shoot it, it probably went in. Not the one you. Not what you did.
Ocho
And I'm six at them. Six, eight. Fellas. Be. Be aggressive. Be aggressive. Ryan, that guy, man, nobody even touched you.
Uncle Joe
You took eight steps. Nobody touched you.
Ocho
I took two steps, Joe. Don't play at me, Joe.
Uncle Joe
I'm saying nobody but you dribble from half court to the goal. Nobody even touch you. You smoked a layup, bro.
Ocho
Oh, Joe, I was looking like Kyrie right there, boy. You saw that filet?
Joe
You saw that?
Ocho
You saw the filet, Joe?
Uncle Joe
That pretty garbage.
Joe
And the man, you missed the whole rim, Ocho. Yeah, you did. The guy came in and got the tip, bro.
Uncle Joe
Man, I'm thinking.
Joe
I'm thinking.
Uncle Joe
You saying. You saying it's more footage. I'm thinking we finna see this man getting down, man. Come on. That's what y' all showing.
Ocho
I see. I see how y' all do, y'. All. Where's the footage of the rest of the points I scored? That's what I want to know.
Joe
Oh, Joe, you do realize we're not in charge of the films, right? See, that's what they sent.
Ocho
Y' all sat and y' all trying to sabotage me and make me look bad cause I'm black, see?
Joe
Yeah. That was easy.
Ocho
Hey, y' all might. You know what? Y' all might as well put on some white hoods. That's what y' all need to do.
Uncle Joe
Hey,
Joe
you don't need any help from Joe and I to make you look bad on the basketball court, man, you plenty good by yourself.
Ocho
Hey, matter of fact, you know what? Hey, Joe, you know. Hey, Chat, make sure y' all watching tomorrow, too. Now, you know we play tomorrow now.
Uncle Joe
What time y' all play?
Ocho
12:30. We.
Uncle Joe
12:30 on ESPN.
Ocho
No, you gotta. It's streaming. It's. Yeah, I'm. I'm gonna see the link. Hey, now, you want to see balling? Now watch. Watch me on that goddamn soccer field.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, send me the link, bro. I want to see what you gonna do.
Joe
Hey.
Ocho
Cause I listen basketball, you know I don't like that. You know how I feel about that. Now, that soccer field where I got them feet from, up Ocho.
Joe
We saw you last year.
Ocho
Last year?
Joe
What, have you gotten better in soccer?
Ocho
I'm better at soccer than football. What are you talking about?
Joe
I get that, but I'm saying, are you better than what you put on display? Remember the last time we saw you?
Ocho
No.
Joe
At this very tournament, P. Mac did a bicycle kick.
Ocho
Which one?
Joe
P. Mac did a bicycle kick in the same tournament. You remember that?
Ocho
Yeah, but what does that have to do with me being great?
Joe
Exactly. That's my point. I was expecting to see you do that.
Ocho
You're telling me Pat McAfee doing a bite. He didn't do a bicycle. He passed it to somebody that somebody else did about.
Joe
No, he did the kick.
Ocho
No, he did not. He passed it. I'm trying to tell you.
Joe
He didn't take by. He took it out the air. Somebody passed it to him, and out the air. He put it in.
Ocho
He was the one who assisted the pass from the right to the left.
Joe
That's all right, Ash. Fitting to find it.
Ocho
Yeah, fine.
Joe
We fit to find it.
Uncle Joe
Oh, Joe, what place y' all came in last year?
Ocho
Yeah, that was. That was year before last. That was.
Joe
That was.
Ocho
I, I.
Joe
We.
Ocho
I didn't play.
Joe
What? He didn't ask you. He asked you what place, not what year, the place.
Ocho
Oh, I don't. I don't remember now.
Joe
He don't remember now. He came in. Guess what you notice, Joe? You know what you notice? People don't remember when they. When they get first. Oh, we came in first. Hey, now, he didn't come in. I don't know. Hey, you.
Ocho
Do you do realize the. This ain't this is all. These are all former professionals and professionals out here. This ain't. No.
Joe
You told me you're a professional. Professional, huh? You told me you might as well have been a professional.
Ocho
I am I right? Right now I could. I honestly, right now I could probably be on. I come off the bench from. From Madrid right now.
Uncle Joe
I'm talking about raise hell and raise hell.
Joe
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Ocho
Hey.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, what's up?
Ocho
Watch my feet tomorrow, Joe.
Uncle Joe
All right, I'm gonna check you out.
Joe
Is the ball going in the net? All that feet. Ish. Ain't nothing. How many times we don't see guys run routes and can't catch the ball.
Ocho
Hey,
Uncle Joe
ball going in the net.
Ocho
Hey, Unc. Hey, Joe.
Uncle Joe
What's up?
Ocho
Who had the greatest feat of all time?
Uncle Joe
They say that. I think they say it's you, ain't it?
Ocho
All right. Just watch. Watch tomorrow, Joe.
Uncle Joe
Okay.
Joe
You right, Ocho.
Ocho
I know I'm right. I'm never wrong.
Uncle Joe
Huh?
Ocho
I'm never wrong. I told you that. You be trying to tell me you loud and wrong.
Joe
Okay, well, where yours? Pull up, pull up. Ocho, we fit the fight. We fit to find your highlight.
Ocho
I ain't had no highlights. I just told you the first game is tomorrow at 12:30.
Joe
You. Oh, Joe. I'm trying to figure out a man say that he was better. He's better in soccer, at football. Now you're talking about a man that was a six time Pro Bowler and a two time All Pro, right? Better at soccer.
Ocho
That's trash. Trash, Trash. What time Pro Bowler, huh? You hear me? I was a four time All Pro because of the footwork that I learned from playing soccer. I'm not an.
Joe
Okay, so that should be able. You should be able to go out there, get us a couple of goals, get us a couple of assists. That's all I'm saying.
Ocho
Oh, I. I had three assists. Well, you know how. You know how hard it is to score on this? Ain't that. Ain't easy
Joe
to score in the NFL? Yeah.
Ocho
Oh, for me? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Joe
Okay. But you said you was better at soccer than football, so it should be even easier, right?
Ocho
It's not. Huh? I'm just telling you. And it's hard for you to. It's hard for either one of you to understand. Anybody in the chat that actually, actually knows the game, they know.
Joe
I mean, I'm looking at Messi, they like it look easy. Look easy, Lewandowski. It look easy, Suarez. It look easy. It looks easy. Did you just Messi it looks easy.
Ocho
You do realize you're naming some of the. The best strike of all time.
Joe
You do realize that Ocho is one of the best receivers? You do realize that, right?
Ocho
Did you just compare me to Holland?
Joe
Did you compare me to Holland?
Ocho
You just compared me to Suarez. We talk about legendary strikers. Like, stop playing.
Joe
Hey, I. You wasn't a legendary receiver.
Ocho
I was all right. I was all right.
Joe
Now he all right. You see that, that Joey. Now he all right.
Uncle Joe
I thought it was him. I thought you was him.
Ocho
Well, you know. Hey, my last name was him in high school. Hey, no, no, no, no joke. Yeah, you're gonna like it, though. You're gonna like it. You're gonna like it. The only thing I'm actually good at is playing soccer. Ping pong pool. No, that. That.
Uncle Joe
That I watch. I. I watch you in ping pong, though. I promise you that. I will watch you. I will watch you in ping pong, bro. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man, this bad here.
Joe
Hey, this man said he was better in football. He was better in soccer than I am. We can't get no. We can't get no go, so we should be able at least get one goal.
Ocho
You should. You know, I'm gonna give. I'm give you a brace tomorrow. I'm gonna give you two.
Joe
You will give me two what? Two goals. You will get two goals tomorrow.
Ocho
I'm gonna give you two goals tomorrow. Huh?
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
You know who we playing? Well, y' all don't know soccer team we playing. Caglieri is a Italian team from Italy. They flew all the way from Italy. They down here.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Them boys should be jet lag. Y' all should run them off the field.
Ocho
Are we playing? I'm playing with a team from. From Spain called Villarreal Yellow Submarine. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, I'm gonna keep it real. He ain't gonna get no two goals. Let's bet it. Let's bet it.
Ocho
How much
Uncle Joe
you bet his ass whooping? Cause I know you ain't gonna pay me if you bet his ass whooping.
Joe
That's what we can bet he.
Ocho
Why would I pay you, Joe?
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Because, well, I track record. Our history is bad, so, you know. I understand. So the only thing I can bet you. Only thing I can bet you is ass whooping.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe. Matter of fact, you know what? Hey, we got the legendary World cup goalkeeper, Pepe Reyna. Yeah, I mean, y' all don't know who he is. I mean, maybe somebody in the chat might know. Y' all know Pepe Raina, right? Those that watch.
Joe
I've heard of him. I don't know him, but I've heard of him.
Ocho
Yeah, he's not. That's our goalie. We got some good players. There's some really good play you got. These are. These are former players that played at the highest level, so I'm sure they
Joe
got some guys on their squad that are like you, right? That didn't play the game of soccer.
Ocho
No, no. Every. Everybody's former players and some current academy.
Joe
So how you get on the team?
Ocho
Because that's how good I am. What do you talk about? What you mean how? Huh? That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey. Oh, so you think I'd be a hell of a goalie?
Joe
You think.
Uncle Joe
You know, with my six, eight frame.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you'll be like Courtois. Yeah, yeah. Nice and tall. But then it's all about angle, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Angles and making the goal small, depending on what. Depending on where the threat is coming from.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Gotta shrink the goal the best way you can. You got to be big, Joe. Make yourself big.
Uncle Joe
I could do that. I could do that. I know I could do that. I could be a hell of a goalie. I'd be stingy as hell. You won't get.
Joe
Couldn't even get no goal on Brianna Scurry. Okay. Ocho. Huh? Ocho.
Uncle Joe
He couldn't get no goal on who?
Joe
Brianna Scurry.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe, I swear, if. If when we come on the show tomorrow, we on tomorrow?
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
If y' all don't watch the game and y' all can't tell me what I did. I promise, when I see y', all, it's on site.
Uncle Joe
Oh, it's on site regardless. But, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We. I. I ain't gonna act like it don't exist. It exists.
Joe
This.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah. It's on site. Me and you, partner.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, you sure you want to do that? You got a family and a wife at home. You know that?
Uncle Joe
That's okay. That's okay.
Ocho
That's okay.
Uncle Joe
Wait.
Ocho
Why would you want to go back to your wife and your kids?
Joe
Damn, Daddy.
Ocho
What happened to your face?
Uncle Joe
I know. They ain't gonna happen. They ain't gonna happen. They ain't happen. I got something for you, though.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. And you got. Hey, you got ice in your refrigerator?
Uncle Joe
Do I got ice in my refrigerator? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I just want to make sure, cuz you gonna need it.
Uncle Joe
Okay. Okay.
Joe
You Gonna love him up, Ocho.
Ocho
Hey, hey. Matter of fact, I'm not even gonna ball up my fist. I'm gonna slap him open hand.
Joe
Damn, boy. Joe, that's the most disrespectful thing you could do to a man.
Ocho
Now, hey, hey, hey. I call it salt and pepper. I mean, I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna bring it east and I'm gonna take it west.
Uncle Joe
I'm gonna hit him square dead in his nose. Make his. Make his eyes water up his ass. Ain't gonna be able to see nothing. Yeah, yeah, he talking all that. Hey. Right in his nose. Yeah. Hey, Joe.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe, I hope you in shape, boy.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, listen.
Ocho
Hey, hey, I'm put you through the blender, you hear me? Okay, I'll put you through the blender, boy.
Joe
Man, Ocho, all you got to do is tell the man that you sorry that you stood him up. And I'm sure. Joe, Joe, after Joe being the man that he is.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Joe
Now, like, you know what? Okay, it happened. Just don't let it happen again.
Ocho
Matter of fact, I'm standing on business. I'm beat his ass.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah. I want you to stand on business, partner, because that damn show what I'm standing on. You hear me? Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
That joke, them 30 inch pythons.
Uncle Joe
Okay, I see that wrapping pythons, right?
Joe
You gonna choke it by, huh? You gonna choke him out, man, Choke
Uncle Joe
him out, man, his little ass ain't gonna be able to touch me.
Ocho
What? Joe, Joe, I got hand. My hands registered. And don't try to sue me either, Joe. When I beat your ass either. I know how. I know how y' all be.
Joe
Y' all love.
Ocho
Y' all love to call the police. He touched me. Don't, don't, don't, don't sue me.
Joe
Damn.
Ocho
Hey, do me a favor, half ass. Write up a waiver or something.
Joe
Oh, you want a waiver? You want Joe decide a waiver?
Ocho
Because he. He didn't typ police.
Uncle Joe
I will whoop his ass, boy. I'm telling chat. I promise y', all, boy, I'll put a mean demonstration on this boy. He gonna. He ain't gonna be. Ain't gonna say Joe no more. Hey, Joe, I got y' all chat.
Ocho
Hey, Joe. You see how loose my shoulders is?
Uncle Joe
That's how you damn shoulders, huh?
Joe
Say, he gonna say J.J. huh?
Ocho
Every. Every time I hit you, I'm gonna say Dino. My night.
Uncle Joe
Hey, un. It's gonna be bad.
Ocho
Hey, when I'm done with you.
Uncle Joe
Three minutes needed. Three minutes. I really don't need that long. But I gotta keep them around for the chat so they can have a
Joe
little fun with and make a few
Uncle Joe
memes about him and all that.
Joe
That's all you need, Joe?
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Three minutes. Three minutes.
Ocho
Damn, you gonna be like Beasley the man.
Joe
They gonna put down a mean demonstration. Oh, a mean demonstration.
Ocho
I'm gonna have him like Beasley. Tapping out.
Joe
Hey, we got. Who you got? You got Ocho, you got ISO. Man, we got one round, three minutes.
Ocho
What round?
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Nah. And it don't matter what it is. I'm whooping his ass.
Joe
No joke. Said that's all he needs, so that's all we putting up there.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe gonna be tired the first 30 seconds.
Uncle Joe
You crazy? Hell, my breath. Hey, hey. The best thing I got is my breathing. My breathing. How to be calm and relax. Wait.
Ocho
This ain't yoga. This ain't yoga.
Uncle Joe
I already got you. I already got you. I already got you. I'm already in your head. I see it now.
Ocho
Hey, that's what I want you to think. No, I'm the trash talker, Joe. You're not the trash talker.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, but I could beat you at your own game. That's the thing, though.
Ocho
No, you can't.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Hey, matter of fact.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Unc. With every punch. I'mma talk to him, then I tell you not to play. Hey, every. Just like my grandma used to do when she used to beat me. Every time that bell hit me, she was talking, talking.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, Chad.
Ocho
That's the kind of whooping you gonna get.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Chad, I promise, that boy gonna be in a heap of trouble. You hear me? I got you.
Joe
They gonna put that a mean demonstration, man.
Uncle Joe
Well, hey, hey, you talking about creating some content?
Joe
Oh, yeah, man, you might need to put them cigars down for the next couple of weeks.
Ocho
I'm in shape. I play. I play. I've been playing soccer the past, what, 10 years? Every day, every weekend. I'm good. I'm gonna run
Joe
interest. Ocho, look at the. Look at the. The. The chat.
Uncle Joe
What's the what. What's the poll?
Joe
The results? Who you got, ocho or ISO 74? Got ISO 26? Got ocho.
Uncle Joe
I thought I'd be more like 95, 97.
Ocho
Hold on. See, that's the problem. That's the problem with the people that vote holding. That's how the person who got in office got in there now, because they always picking the wrong
Joe
chat. Chat.
Uncle Joe
Know what's going on?
Ocho
Yeah. Okay. Hey, you see. You see that side frame. You see? You see all, you see all that?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
Understand what come behind that too, boy. Ain't none but pressure, you hear me? I mean, I'm hey, hey, uncle. I'm a pressure Wash that boy and now superhuman.
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Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson
Date: May 27, 2026
This episode of Nightcap, hosted by Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad "Ocho" Johnson, and special guest Joe (ISO Joe) Johnson, dives into a lively recap of Game 5 in the Western Conference Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and San Antonio Spurs. The hosts unpack the Thunder’s statement win to take a 3-2 series lead, examining key performances, strategic adjustments, and player mentality. The crew also transitions into comedic banter about Ocho’s exploits in a celebrity basketball game and upcoming soccer matches, bringing their signature playful trash talk and unfiltered sports analysis.
[05:05 – 21:40]
"SGA 32 points, 9 assists, 2 steals... Hartenstein was really the heart and soul tonight." – Joe (05:05)
"When he comes in the game, it's never a letdown, bro. It's either we keep it steady or he take you to another level.” – Uncle Joe (07:57)
Castle’s Growing Pains: Spurs rookie Ocho Castle shows both promise and immaturity, especially with turnovers and fouls.
“I'd rather have my dog out there barking, getting down and I had to pull it... than me having to push him out there.” – Uncle Joe (10:45)
Turnovers Kill Momentum: Discussion of how poorly timed mistakes deflate rallies.
“You just look at the number. See, I look at the situation... He gets two of those turnovers and create files. We got a seven, eight point lead. Guess what? Ball game's tied.” – Joe (15:08)
"Tonight Hardenstein outplayed Wimby. Wimby is setting up too far outside. He ain't get nothing easy, Joe." – Joe (15:26)
"He can't allow Hardenstein to make him one dimensional... He got to find a way." – Ocho (16:42)
“Caruso got to be shooting damn near 55, 60 for the damn three... every time he shoot is going in.” – Joe (27:41-27:50)
"He’s mastered manipulating getting to the free throw line." – Ocho (46:23)
[21:41 – 36:55]
“All turnovers aren’t created equal. Sometimes your turnovers kill your runs and give them life.” – Joe (28:29)
"If Fox or Harper, if both of them don't play well, I don't think they got a chance in hell of winning the game." – Uncle Joe (29:12)
“He don’t really have a lot of legs, which is why his rebounding is down so much... If Hardenstein and Chat plays like this again and Wimby plays like he played tonight, there will not be a game seven.” – Joe (36:54, 37:32)
[57:28 – 62:58]
"I'm thinking... we finna see this man getting down, man. Come on. That's what y' all showing." – Uncle Joe (59:23)
"Y' all trying to sabotage me and make me look bad cause I'm black, see?" – Ocho (59:40)
“I'm gonna give you two goals tomorrow.” – Ocho (65:44)
"You do realize Ocho is one of the best receivers? You do realize that, right?" – Joe (64:32)
Defining Physical Play:
"Put a body on him. Just like when you're in high school... since game two, he was averaging 20 rebounds a game, now that's going all the way down." – Joe (35:04-35:26)
Unfiltered on SGA’s Free Throw Frequency:
"I've caught fish that flopped less than Shay." – Joe (47:02)
On OKC’s Championship Mindset:
"They not really trying to get up off this throne. When you've been king, you'll do everything that you possibly can to keep the crown." – Joe (28:55)
Closing Section – Playful Promises and Fight Talk: The last chunk is pure entertainment with Ocho and Uncle Joe hyping up a (joking) future boxing match, trash talking, and fanning playful rivalries.
"I'ma pressure wash that boy." – Ocho (73:39)
"I'ma hit him square dead in his nose... make his eyes water up." – Uncle Joe (69:02)
For anyone who missed the episode, expect a blend of insightful breakdowns, authentic energy, lighthearted slander, and all the reasons Nightcap is building its own sports talk throne.