Nightcap Hour 3: BIG3 RECAP + Randy Moss VS Adrian Peterson for Vikings supremacy

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: BIG3 RECAP + Randy Moss VS Adrian Peterson for Vikings Supremacy

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Date: July 6, 2026
Guests: Joe Johnson (ISO Joe), Tab Ramos
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This episode dives deep into the latest happenings in the BIG3 basketball league, features lively debates on NFL legends Randy Moss vs. Adrian Peterson, soccer reactions, and covers fan questions ranging from basketball, football, and track to plenty of uncensored locker-room banter.

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Main Theme

The episode revolves around instant reactions to recent BIG3 games, legendary player debates—including a Randy Moss vs. Adrian Peterson “best Viking” discussion—and Nightcap’s signature blend of sports insight and entertaining, off-the-cuff storytelling from three sports icons. They mix serious sports analysis with a heavy dose of trash-talk, humor, and candid conversation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. BIG3 Recap and Analysis

Starting at 03:01

• Dallas Power vs. Detroit Amps: Dallas prevails 51-48. Notably, Dallas survived a dramatic AMPS comeback, led by Nasir "Nas" scoring 29 in the second half—setting a NEW Big3 record for points in a half, breaking Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson’s previous mark. (03:01)

  • “Dallas... probably the only undefeated, one of the only undefeated teams still left in the league. They're gonna be around that one in the final four.” – Joe Johnson (04:34)

• Boston Ball Hogs vs. LA Riot: Boston wins 50-40, climaxed by Jeremy Pargo’s incredible run of three straight 4-pointers in a row.

  • "He came to play...he leads the Big3 in four-pointers made." – Joe Johnson (05:21)

• Chicago Triplets vs. Miami 305: Montrezl Harrell makes his season debut and dominates for Chicago with 34 points, keeping the Triplets undefeated. (08:11)

  • “Tre’s a dog, man… he said he looking to come get MVP, man.” – Joe Johnson (09:20)

• DMV Trilogy vs. Houston Rig Hands: DMV rolls 50-38, led by Jordan McRae’s 18 points.

• Standings after Week 3: Dallas and Chicago remain undefeated, looking like early favorites. Boston and DMV are 2-1; Miami, LA, Detroit, and Houston trail.

  • “Dallas and Chicago sit alone atop the league. Both are undefeated and looking like the front runners.” – Host (09:57)

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2. Player Trash Talk & Locker-Room Banter

04:53, 06:11, 07:01, 07:57

• Joe Johnson and Ocho engage in playful “who’s the real baller” jabs, challenging each other to one-on-one games and enjoying competitive banter.
  • “You can't even do one-on-one with me, man.” – Ochocinco
  • “You lightweight, homie. You baby food, homie...” – Joe Johnson (07:04)
• Ongoing jokes about four-point plays, with Joe promising, "I'ma get y’all some footage…" (07:31)
• Ocho and Joe rib each other about never showing up, referencing flights to NYC and Shelly making travel plans (08:19).

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3. Soccer and International Sports

11:04-13:32, 28:17-29:02

• Hosts talk over prop bets for upcoming international soccer fixtures: Balogun, Pulisic, Matt Freese, and Cristiano Ronaldo.
  • “Y’all got Balogun messed up. He bringing that thunder tomorrow.” – Joe Johnson (11:09)
  • “He has to show up at some point. He is our starboy...he is our Mbappé.” – Ochocinco on Pulisic (13:35, 13:42)
• Discussion of England eliminating Mexico from the World Cup; emotional moments for young star Mora (17) and veteran Ochoa.
  • “Ah boy, it hurts so much watching 17-year-old Mora sobbing and Memo Ochoa crying as well, knowing this is it for him. But that’s how life and sports work.” – Host (28:17)
• Debate about “flopping” and VAR inconsistencies in World Cup soccer.
  • “Why these dudes stuff their left big toe, roll three times and grab their right foot?” – Host (41:20)
• England’s rumored use of Viagra for altitude stamina, and frustration over FIFA’s long-running document corruption (29:02, 40:13)

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4. Q&A Segment: Sports, Competition, & Personalities

29:55-53:47

NBA & Football Player Debates

• Prime 2-on-2: Kobe & Kyrie vs. MJ & AI

  • “Man, listen, that’d be a great matchup…Jordan was such a great defender…that will probably be the separator.” – Joe Johnson (30:41)
  • “Whoever gets the ball first.” – Ochocinco (30:13)
  • Extensive talk about the legendary finish, defense, and skills of each Hall-of-Famer (31:03-31:47)

• Randy Moss vs. Adrian Peterson: Best Viking

  • “That’s a good question…Randy was different, huh?” – Ochocinco (51:32)
  • “17 touchdowns as a rookie.” – Host (51:49)
  • Reminiscences about the legendary Vikings offense with Moss, Cris Carter, Jake Reed, and Robert Smith.

College Football and NFL Draft Prospects

• Jeremiah Smith vs. Malachi Tony as college football receivers
  • “Jeremiah Smith has an NFL wide receiver body and he’s a junior.” – Host (50:18)
• Chicago Bulls’ rookie Caleb Wilson analysis
  • “He’s a dark horse in this rookie class to win rookie of the year, bro.” – Joe Johnson (50:37)

Track & Field

• Praise for high school phenoms Tate Taylor and Quincy Wilson for breaking sprint records (43:36-45:35)
  • “These kids just flyin’. What they doing, man!” – Host (44:09)
• Reflection on the evolution of training and equipment ("technology, Joe!") and comparison to horse racing/Secretariat records (44:33-44:52)

NBA “Effort” Critique

• On Deandre Ayton
  • “The effort…imagine a coach saying to any player in any sport: I just can't play him. Let that sink in.” – Host (48:51)

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5. Locker Room & Adult Humor

18:17-26:15

• Hosts field a hilarious Discord voicemail about grill food, sparking a segment about hot dog and burger eating contests. Ocho claims he could destroy Joey Chestnut if it were just hot dogs with no buns. (19:03–21:09)
• Extended “freaky” banter: Ball gags, handcuffs, Fifty Shades of Gray references, and playful accusations about who is the sneakiest “freak” among the crew.
  • “Hey Joe, did you get the ball gag for your wife?” – Ochocinco (22:31)
  • “No, I didn’t. I asked her about it. She was like, ‘Nah, she cool.’” – Joe Johnson (22:39)
  • “I got a whole dungeon, boy!” – Ochocinco (24:00)
• Candid talk about relationship dynamics, advice, and a healthy dose of ribbing.

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6. More Q&A and Sports Takes

Boxing’s Future

• Hope for a return to boxers facing each other rather than “wannabe undefeateds.”
  • “That money, that money...the money’s gonna force them to fight each other.” – Ochocinco (42:54)
  • “You put the right figures up there, gonna sign on the dotted line.” – Joe Johnson (43:32)

Coaching and Defensive Formations

• Joe Johnson’s dislike of zone (basketball): "Hey, I hate it when teams play zone, bro." (38:36)
• Ochocinco’s perspective that in football, zone can take receivers out of being the primary read, but in man, "first one get open" gets the ball. (39:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Big3 Comebacks:
  “We were down by 20 points at one time...we fought back...Nas got hot...but this Dallas Power team gonna be tough, bro.”
  – Joe Johnson (04:09)
• Ochocinco on Hot Dog Eating:
  “He don’t want to see me, I’m telling you. Hey Joey [Chestnut]!” (20:00)
• Ochocinco’s Fifty Shades monologue and ‘dungeon’ jokes:
  “All that stuff came from me…I tried to audition for the role of Christian Gray…” (24:06)
• On High School Track Phenoms:
  “I don’t know what these teenagers doing now. These kids just flying.” – Host (44:07)
• On Randy Moss’ Impact as a Rookie:
  “The man Thanksgiving game…3 catches for 163 yards.” – Ochocinco (52:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• BIG3 Recap & Analysis: 03:01–11:04
• Soccer Player Props & Discussion: 11:04–14:34
• Video Voicemail & Grill Talk: 18:17–21:30
• Freaky Locker Room Banter: 21:30–26:15
• Prime 2-on-2 NBA Debates: 29:57–31:31
• Vikings All-Time Debate (Moss vs. Peterson): 51:26–52:24
• High School Track Phenoms: 43:39–47:08

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Flow & Tone

• Language & Tone: Candid, playful, and at times uncensored. Heavy use of sports insider humor, banter, and a strong camaraderie that makes listeners feel like they’re hanging out with athletes in the locker room or at a bar.
• Speaker Attribution: Quotes and insights are called out with names and timestamps where relevant.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of Nightcap highlights why the show is the new home for late-night sports banter. Shannon, Ocho, and Joe Johnson balance sharp recaps—especially around the red-hot Big3 league—with hard-hitting debates on sports history and current stars. The Q&A is electric, mixing technical breakdowns with outrageous stories, raw honesty, and plenty of laughter.

Whether revisiting Randy Moss’ rookie magic, breaking down the next Olympic sprint sensation, or clowning on handcuffs in the bedroom, this Nightcap delivers a little something for every sports and comedy fan.

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End of Episode Summary

Transcript

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Well, I guess you won't get invited to the wedding. Backyard Big three is happy to be partnered with the Big three and we'll be keeping up with the league all season long. We'll be at number one destination for all game recaps and analysis all summer long. The Dallas Power 51 Detroit Amps 48amp claw back from down 25 to 9 at halftime Joe to make it a one possession game at the buzzer. But the game but came up short. Nascor dropped 29 in the second half alone. A big three record for points and a half, breaking the mark previously held by our own ISO. Joe Johnson. Core finished with 31 points and 8 rebounds. Elijah Stewart and added 16.6 rebounds. Dallas stayed undefeated. God dang, Joe. What, What? What going on? Yeah, man, you 25 to nine, Joe. You ain't need with 25 more points.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, we were down by 20 points at one time in this game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, when? Oh, that was the day.

[Joe Johnson]

That was the day, man, them boys fought back.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, y'.

[Tab Ramos]

All.

[Host (Ocho)]

Was that okay?

[Joe Johnson]

I thought.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, I thought, okay, I thought. I thought of.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I was watching the game. We were down by 20 points at one time. We fought back. I thought Nas called hot and he, he got into a rhythm and made shots. But hey, man, this Dallas Power team gonna be tough, bro, because they play with a collective group of guys. It ain't really gonna be one guy with 30 points on a team. They gonna play like this. They may have a guy with 22, 23, another with 15. You know what I mean? They gotta, they gotta put the guys who can step in and really make plays. They're gonna be one of the top teams. They probably the only undefeated one of the only undefeated teams still left in the league. They gonna, they gonna be nice, bro. They gonna, they gonna be around that one in the final four like that. They gonna be around

[Host (Ocho)]

the Ball Hogs. The Boston Ball hogs. That is 50, the LA Riot 40. LA led by 12 points in the second half and looked to be cruising before it all fell apart. Jeremy Pargo buried three four pointers in a row to flip the game to seal it for Boston. Pargo 25 points, 10 rebounds, two threes and four and three fours. Dwight Howard chipped in with 14 points, six rebounds and one block.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey. Kind of surprising to me, you know, I talked to Jeremy, you know, a few days before this game and me and him was talking. I was like, the game gonna come down between Jeremy Pargo and Jordan Crawford on who gonna win the game because your point guard played both guys who can really score the ball and play at a high level. It was whoever had the better game team was going to win. Obviously. Jeremy, I think he leads. I think he lead the big three history in four pointers made. So he made what, four, four points a day?

[Host (Ocho)]

He made three?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bought out. He came to play. He came to play. He said they got a good team. He said he feel like they the most underrated team. And he said he got. He got something for him. And they came out, man, they put it on. They put it on the LA ride though. Dwight and Jordan Crawford.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah. What you call them? I mean, that might be a good landing spot for business.

[Joe Johnson]

Where. Hey, hey, Ben. Holler at me, man. I got something for you, partner.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, you and being team up, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Look, look, Ben, well, you know, he won't play make anyway. Hell, I'm. I'm. I got 30 in my back pocket.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, I don't know, Joe. Joe, that you are. You've been off two years, Joe. I just said you might need to temper a little bit of expectation.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying. I'm saying, taking into consideration that I. That I'm gonna be preparing for the next 10 to 12 months. Yeah, I'm gonna be back. If I can't get out there and dominate uncle, I ain't getting out there. How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, man, I can do this in my sleep. Three on three, half court.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't even do one on one with me, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You lightweight, homie. You baby fool, homie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your time gonna come. It's gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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Don't worry, I'mma show you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Host (Ocho)]

Joe, you made any four point plays.

[Joe Johnson]

Four pointers. Oh, God. I've done it all, baby. I got it. I didn't done it all. Four pointers. I don't end the games on.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't want to see no footage. I want to see it in person, man, in front of me.

[Joe Johnson]

I got something for you, O. Joe. I got Something for you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What I used to do and what I did back then, do it now.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, I know. When you see me, you better put your damn sets up. I know that. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, hey. I mean, you might not show up for that.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. You might not show up for the fight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm gonna be in New York. Come on, man. Come on, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Uncle might miss his flight. You never know.

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[Narrator]

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[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be in nyc, baby. Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Okay, well, I mean. I mean, I might have to have Shelly make sure to pass the information on to the Mrs. So that way, you know, Make sure you catch your flight.

[Joe Johnson]

He laughing so hard. Why he laughing so hard, huh? Your little stomach?

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you and Ocho gonna have to chill, too. Y' all gotta chill. Y' all really gotta chill. Y' all gotta chill, for real.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, but she'll be there, you know, she see. She see your lady. Yeah, work it out. So I was like, shelly, just tell her, make sure you'll get on the flight. Make sure you'll get on the flight. The Chicago Triplets 50. The Miami 305, 38. Montrell's Herald made his season debut and dominated The Beasley left. 305, keeping Chicago undefeated. Tres, 34 points, 4 rebounds. Lance Stevenson added 22. Damn. Trez had 34.

[Joe Johnson]

Tre a dog in this, man. Tre.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know how he play in the league, bro. This is how you play in the Big Three. It's. It's a lot harder in the Big Threes, a lot more physical in the Big Three. And they played in the championship game last year, so he played it. They lost, but they played in the championship game and he played a major role.

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Trace, he said he looking to come get mvp, man. He said he feel like he's the best player this year now that ISO ain't playing. He's ISO out. I ain't, you know, I ain't got nobody to worry about. Yeah, he's doing his 1, 2. For real. He can go. He can go.

[Host (Ocho)]

The DMV trilogy 50. The Houston Rig hands 38. Jordan McCray poured in 18 points at the Trilogy. Roll past the Steel Rig hands the standings after three weeks. Dallas and Chicago sit alone atop the league. Both are undefeated and looking like the front runners. The DMV in Boston right now are two in one. Miami and LA have work to do. They're one and two. And Detroit and Houston are still searching for their first win, Big Three will be in LA next Saturday at the Galen Center. Tune in to Nightcap all season long for our Big Three to recap the victory. All right, now it's time to play a fade. All right. All right, here we go. Balagon 0.5 gold and assist.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, this is one of the most difficult things to. To actually. To actually guess.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, y' all got Balagun messed up. He come. He bringing that thunder tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna get one. Oh, no. Hey, so he got. He got three.

[Host (Ocho)]

You either got a reprieve. He got to change his. Hey, hey. It's like you get a reprieve. Yeah, you gotta. Hey, you got to do the right. You got a reprieve.

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Hey, they got that. Put the. The red card on probation. You got to come through with at least the goal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

They letting you play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with it. What are you getting one? I'm gonna go ahead and give him one. Simply because they letting him.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta show up and show out.

[Host (Ocho)]

Kristen Pulisic also, 0.5 goal and assist. You think he'll have at least a goal and a fifth, so he got to have half. So if he gets an assist, that's. Or a goal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

that means we gonna be balling. You say he gonna get it, Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, shoot. He gonna. He gonna have his. He gonna have the ball at his feet more than Balagon. He gonna have more chances.

[Host (Ocho)]

Matt freeze the goalkeeper, 0.5. Two and a half saves.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, absolutely. Of course. Of course.

[Host (Ocho)]

Cristiano Ronaldo, attacker for Portugal versus Spain. Oh, so Ronaldo, will he have 0.5 goal assists? Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, hey. Hey,

[Host (Ocho)]

Spain putting the locks on that thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, ain't no telling what's gonna happen, Joyce. Hey, Spain's man. Spain might send them boys home.

[Joe Johnson]

They ain't gonna. They ain't gonna score. O. Joe,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man, Joe, man, they. Joe, I don't know what's wrong with them. Like, you know, I want Portugal to win. You know, I know I love Cristiano, but. And them boys ain't playing. They ain't playing, right, Joe, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

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I mean, just because it's him, huh?

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Now you got a chat.

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You got to make sure you look out for chat now.

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Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, check Chad. Yeah, I see. I can't. I can't bet with my heart here. I gotta. You know, I gotta.

[Host (Ocho)]

With Pulisic. Ain't been playing great, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he hasn't, but he got to show up at some point. He is our starboy. He's our. Well, he's our wonder kid. He is our Cristiano. He is our Holland.

[Host (Ocho)]

He is our Mbappe no, that belongs to Balagon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, nah, I got you. You can't. You can't. You can't switch up on Pulisic like that.

[Host (Ocho)]

I did. I did. So you said yes for the Ronaldo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What was it?

[Host (Ocho)]

An assist goal and an assist point five.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna go. I'm go. Yeah, I'm gonna go. A year. Let's hopefully get. Hopefully get a penalty. Maybe get a penalty. Get a PK.

[Host (Ocho)]

Get a PK.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

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[Host (Ocho)]

We have one video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah buddy hot dogs making onions steak

[Host (Ocho)]

randomly fried some burgers. Sw God and two white men. Hey hey oo what I number them hot dogs hamburger he look at those sa look at them dog I see

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

him see I I don't see I I don't like my hot dogs burnt, though. I know some people like a little. A little burnt? Yeah, little char on them. I don't like no char on my hot dog, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. All right.

[Host (Ocho)]

You out there. We ought to put you in that thing with Joy Chestnut next year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he don't want to see me here.

[Joe Johnson]

But he won again today, didn't he?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he won. He won again. He won again because he ain't got no competition up there. Put me up there.

[Joe Johnson]

You think you.

[Host (Ocho)]

Man that joke.

[Joe Johnson]

You think you can gobble down more dogs there?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, all I got to do is just don't eat the day before, Joe. Yeah, Joe, I gotta. I got a stomach for that, Joe. I know the trick to it and all.

[Host (Ocho)]

I bet. I bet he could literally probably eat about probably 90 if he just ate the hot dogs. No bun, right? I bet he could probably eat by 90.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Because think about, think about how that. And, and the thing is that bread, all that bread that he's eating.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

That's why he got probably two loaves of bread.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why you got the water. That's why he got the water there with it.

[Host (Ocho)]

I know, but, yeah, he tried to take the. What you call. But it helps. It helps break it down. Yes, but just imagine if he didn't have to eat no bread, Ocho. Just nothing but hot dogs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. He don't want to see me, I'm telling you. Hey, Joey. Hey, Joey.

[Host (Ocho)]

Just now, I think his record is like 70 something. 70, 71.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man, that ain't nothing, man.

[Host (Ocho)]

So I, I ain't no question my mind. He could eat mid-80s if he just ate the hot dogs. Chad, how many. Thank you. All he think he eat if he just ate the hot dogs. No buns, just hot dogs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no way. Hey, Joe. Ain't no way he beat me, Joe, you hear me?

[Host (Ocho)]

We already know you just eat buns, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh? Hey, hey, see, Joe?

[Host (Ocho)]

See?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See how uncle went left field with it? See, I, I, I. Hey, I've been, I've been innocent. All showing. Hey, Joey Chest. Hey, hey, me and Joey Chestnut, man,

[Host (Ocho)]

we need to work one on one.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't mess with dude Ojo now

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

he don't want to see me, Joe. No, I'm Joe. This me, Joe. Ain't no way he eating. He can't eat no glee.

[Host (Ocho)]

Like 100 like them little crystal hamburgers, Joe. He ate like 100 or something of them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, that ain't, that ain't none. Please, I know how. Hey, I know how to train for this. I know how to train for this.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard for me to watch it. Hell, they make my stomach hurt just watching it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, we did. Joseph, you've been trying to eating buns for, like, the last 30 years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to set that up, Tell.

[Host (Ocho)]

No, we don't. What's on. What's it or what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Me and Joey Chestnut, one on one.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, I thought you talking about eating. I said. You and Joe said that if I want no part of that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, y' all tripping, man. Hey, at some point, y'.

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[Host (Ocho)]

Yo, man, get your boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

At some point. Some point, y' all gotta live, man,

[Joe Johnson]

what made you think we ain't living on? That's what I don't understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Until you spread them, you ain't. You ain't living right,

[Kohler Ambassador]

man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Host (Ocho)]

Ooh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did tell you.

[Joe Johnson]

It just. That just don't even sound right. Like.

[Host (Ocho)]

But, you know, hey, to each his own.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy work. Teach his own, my ass. It's crazy. N. That's crazy work. OO Tripping. O. Tripping. He gotta chill. He gotta stop it. He got.

[Host (Ocho)]

He got down.

[Joe Johnson]

He got down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, what y' all laughing? Hey, hey, Joe, you got to get you one of these. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, did you get the ball gag for you? For your wife?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get. I told y' all, we passed on. I asked her about it. She went, nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, she didn't want to do that.

[Joe Johnson]

I asked her about it. I thought. I asked her what she thought she was like. Nah, she cool.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, what you think about it,

[Host (Ocho)]

Ojo, man? O about to get Joe put out his own house.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, wait. Wait till she's sleeping.

[Joe Johnson]

Just put.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just put it right. Just put it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. You only wait till she sleep and do what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, just.

[Joe Johnson]

Just. Just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just tie around the head like this. Joe. Hey, don't.

[Host (Ocho)]

Don't even tell her.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, why she sleep, and when she wake up, she won't be able to move.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, what's wrong with you, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you got to get you one of these. Joe, I'm telling you. Hey, she'll like it. She'll like it. Damn you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you got all kind of little gadgets over there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe. Hey, Joe, I don't play, boy. I got a whole dungeon, boy.

[Host (Ocho)]

When it's go time, ain't it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what I'm telling You. I meant to sue. You saw. You ever saw 50 Shades of Gray? Like, all the ideas that were in that movie that Christian Gray was doing in the little dungeon with all the whipping paddles and the. And all that. All that stuff came from me. Yeah, because, listen, I tried to. I tried to audition for the role of Christian Gray, but obviously they weren't. They didn't want anyone of. Of my ethnicity, so I. I sent in. I. I sent in visual, you know, references and why I should get a part. So they took my videos and then inserted and. And use them in the movie, but they didn't. They didn't give me the road. So everything you saw in the movie 50 Shades of Gray, that was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm telling you, hey, Joe, you got to get a ball game.

[Host (Ocho)]

They got a headboard. You see the headboard?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got. Yeah. Remember the handcuffs already in it?

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, the handcuffs already.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got one of them, too.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got one.

[Host (Ocho)]

No, no, I'm just saying. I was just seeing it. You. You.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you see? No, I ain't. I. I ain't seen that one. You must have ran across that one on you. On. On your feed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I got. I got a little head. I got a little headboard with the handcuffs. It's in the. It's in the garage right now. What you do?

[Joe Johnson]

You take appointments or something?

[Host (Ocho)]

You who? Appointment?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, appointments. Oh, with. With my girl.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I don't know what you got going. I'm saying. You saying you got the headboard, so you. I ain't know if you were.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, the head. The headboard for her, because, you know, she'd be trying to run, so I had to add the other headboard so she can't move.

[Kohler Ambassador]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, so I ain't got to worry about. I ain't got to worry about pulling it back. You feel me? So once you. Once you locked in, I mean, you at my mercy, you hear me? Yes, sir.

[Host (Ocho)]

And the pillows, you gotta. Got them. They got the body pillows that you can just put up on them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause, hey, that give you a better angle, huh? You hear me? It give you a better angle. You got the pillow up under there? Yeah, Joe. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, yeah. Hey, matter of fact, hey, I can send you some video for reference if you need it.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm good.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, good.

[Joe Johnson]

I appreciate you for looking out, though. I appreciate you for looking out, bro. Yeah, I'm good.

[Host (Ocho)]

Try to go to Joe. He tried. Chat y', all see who wanted to. I didn't be back here. Y' all know.

[Joe Johnson]

They know who won two and three. No, they know,

[Host (Ocho)]

man, that Joe and Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, y' all gotta chill though. Y' all got cheer for real.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, my goodness. Any guest nightcaps have lined up for Fanatics Fest and I nominate nightcap for the Chris Johnson ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. Yeah, we got. We got a couple of guests. We don't. It's only like. We only got like 40, 45 minutes because they have so many. So many people coming through. So. Yeah, we got a coup. I don't know if we could. Are we allowed to tell them who we have, Ash? Oh, we got Jaylen Brunson and we have Roman Reigns.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I need to holl at JB anyway.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He owe me a one on one too, but I forgot about that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Hey, I mean, I bet. I'm sure we could. I mean, you know, I'm sure we can make the Ice Bucket challenge.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Damn, Ocho, didn't you do it? And I see you do the ALS ice bucket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Not yet. Not yet. I'm gonna hit that thing though. I'm hit that thing from the dog.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Host (Ocho)]

Ah, boy, it hurts so much watching 17 year old Mora sobbing and Memo Ochoa crying as well, knowing this is it for him. But that's how life and sports work.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Gilberto Morgan, he gonna be in a few more World cup, maybe three more. He's only 17. He played extremely well all World Cup. You know, Ochoa is his last one. Yeah. So. Ah, man, it's tough. It's tough. I was hoping they were able to pull it out, especially being that they were. They were upper, man. They had an advantage. But England squeeze it out. England squeeze it out.

[Host (Ocho)]

Banned Viagra from all sports.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Host (Ocho)]

Who hating because the England. England was allowed to take it. I mean, that helped them deal with the altitude.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, the way they was running the tide just like everybody else.

[Host (Ocho)]

But they probably been even tireder earlier.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dang.

[Host (Ocho)]

Happy birthday to my son, David. I'm a huge nightcap fan, Ocho. ISO, can you guys send a birthday shout out to my son who's turning three years old today? I really appreciate you guys love the show so much. We absolutely can. David, happy third birthday. Your dad wanted to send you a special shout out. You're probably too young to hear this or see this now, but there will come a time that you know what, It's a man. ISO. And Ocho shouted your boy. I was three years old and here I am, 10 years old, 20 years old, 30 years old. So. Happy birthday, David.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy birthday, twin.

[Host (Ocho)]

Who's winning A two on two. Everyone in their prime. Kobe and Kyrie, MJ and AI. Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Who winning? Kyrie, mj A

[Host (Ocho)]

whoever get the ball first.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen, that, that'd be a great matchup, bro. I just think, I think Jordan was like, kobe won defensive player of the year. He won. He got on some rd.

[Host (Ocho)]

Jordan 1 defense.

[Joe Johnson]

Jordan 1 defense. I think Jordan just, he, he was such a great defender, Uncle Ocho. You know what I mean? I think that that will probably be the separator, if you ask me.

[Host (Ocho)]

You think, you think obviously gonna be a stay in front of Kyrie?

[Joe Johnson]

Probably not. But I don't think Kyrie gonna be able to stay in front of AI here.

[Host (Ocho)]

He not. That's why I say whoever get the ball first. Cause you hey, with that crossover. Yeah, man, I, I, I, AI wasn't nothing to play with.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, all them boys nice. But yeah, Kyrie and AI that always be Kyrie for his size and AI for his size. Both of those guys are probably two of the best finishes from a guard standpoint I've ever seen play the game, bro. I'm talking about the way Kyrie finished over big guys and AI the way he used to finish. I'm like, man, yeah, so they special. They both special in their own right, bro.

[Host (Ocho)]

And, and the thing was, they didn't play really play above the rim. Now you look at a guy like D. Rose, you look at a guy like Westbrook that played above the rim, and you're like, okay, I can see. But the way AI can slither and AI probably was a buck 65 at his best. And the way he stayed in the

[Joe Johnson]

trees, man, he was tough, bro.

[Host (Ocho)]

Man, just listen to AI talk, man. If AI would have got some good sleep on the road, man, it'll tell him what a I could have done, man. Hey, I say, man, I dropped 55 into the coach benched me cause somebody saw me out at 5am he said, Man, he said, you try, you tried to help them win too then, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I enjoyed himself, boy.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, he oh, he did, man. I so us in the chat have been watching Nightcap for years. Know damn well Uno is a also it's a read the chat called Ocho Ocho Frico. We heard him tell them stories. Hey, hold on. How y' all put me in front of Ocho Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Now, this ain't new to us. Cause you know, are we. I've been telling y', all, y' all fighting for first place.

[Tab Ramos]

Not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not me. He's Unc number one.

[Host (Ocho)]

No, no, no, no, no. They just said, oh, first of all, Ocho got all the gags. See, just. See, the thing is, Ocho what, what Joe's done. See, Joe be trying to pit us against one another, and then he just lay in the background and don't nobody suspect anything.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He the worst one.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's, and that's the problem we had. Because, see, y' all won't take accountability of y' all freakingness, man. It don't make y' all no bad brothers, bro. I still like it. Y' all some good dudes. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joey. One thing about it, you know, I don't hide nothing. I ain't ashamed of nothing. You know, I, I, I, I, I. I'm forward with everything that I do. And if I were, the official language

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[Host (Ocho)]

They got some cold horses on those cans.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cold snacks number one. I'd be like, you know what? Yeah, I am number one. But Joe, honestly, you.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got everybody fooled.

[Host (Ocho)]

You thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can run that game on everybody else but me and me.

[Joe Johnson]

And we ain't fool wait to chime in. Thank you, man. Chat ain't going. Listen, y' all can't convince me and y' all can't convince Chad we ain't going. We already know.

[Host (Ocho)]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

No, hey, they called.

[Host (Ocho)]

They called. They called. They got sneak freak and sneaky freak. You sneaky freak. Yeah, sneak freak is.

[Tab Ramos]

But we don't.

[Host (Ocho)]

We know. Hey, Chat, y' all know that one? Everybody know. Everybody know that one. That what? That one. That don't nobody suspect.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey.

[Host (Ocho)]

Oh, she. She get straight A's?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Always a quiet one.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Big three. What? Formation coverage? Or did you or play. Did you guys hate defenses run when you play new rankings? 1ocho 2iso. 3.

[Joe Johnson]

I I. Hey, I hate it when teams play zone, bro. I hate it when teams play zone. Okay, Ocho. Hey, hey, don't get this man to man, man. Let me get a dude at work over here, man. I can't get. I can't get no. I can't get no shots over here, man.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, you, you like me. I want to play the play.

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[Host (Ocho)]

I mean, look, in, in basket. In football, it's a little easier. We have. We have zone beaters. We have man beaters. The only difference is, is that I might be the read. I might not be the first or second read in the zone beater.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Hey, and the man read. Hey, first one get open. I know Jon gonna give him the ball. The first one get open. Now, I got the. Normally I got the shallow cross or I got the basic cross, or I got something close. So I hey, if I win right now, hey, I'm getting on my horses.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll get it.

[Host (Ocho)]

Now. Sometimes he gonna take his shot. He's like, hey, I saw your tea, but I want to take this shot over the top. Okay, cool. But no, it really didn't matter to me. I hate his own. Unless I was the first read in the zone. Hey, it don't matter to me because I turn and get up in my shadow. Hey, you miss a tackle, yeah, I'm out. Why is it. Why is it. Why is it not a problem that they incorrectly use var. But it was for. The call was suspended. People would rather FIFA be corrupt than fix it. I mean, there's like, you know what? We've been corrupt for so long, we might as well just keep it going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey,

[Host (Ocho)]

because you remember they had that big overhaul, Ocho. They came in and found out people was doing all this and all this other stuff going on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Host (Ocho)]

They thought they had come cleaned it up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Host (Ocho)]

His studs weren't up. He was trying. He was trying to get his footing behind himself. Unlike Messi, who didn't get a car. They ain't calling nothing on Messi.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You did that. That ain't happening.

[Host (Ocho)]

What a big three. As a Mexican, I'm saddened and heartbroken. I love my country and my team, especially this squad. Saddened. We out. But Viva Mijiko. Ocho's Ronaldo set the precedent. They suspended his. His two game suspension in qualifiers at 24.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Messi did the same file with spikes at this World Cup. It was not even a yellow nor bar review. Go usa. Well, now that I know that, hey, hell yeah, we should have. I'm glad. This World cup is amazing. But why these dudes stuff their left big toe on the turf, roll three times and grab their right foot? I get strategy. I thought OKC flopped, but man, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I say, man, hey, it's been. It's been extreme too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that. Hey, that was. Hey, that was funny. That was funny. Hey, they say stuff. They left toe roll three times to grab their right foot. Hey, that was funny.

[Host (Ocho)]

ISO is Holland a Lukaku. Just give him the ball and put the ball in the net. Ocho is pragma Balotelli. That's given in his original Ronaldo. When the stage is at his brightest, he shines.

[Joe Johnson]

Island ball.

[Host (Ocho)]

So you Prague by Balotelli, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I'd rather be Balotelli.

[Host (Ocho)]

You rather be Balotelli?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I like. I like Balotelli, man. I like him a lot. He's basically just me just in. In soccer, you know, at times he was a headache, but when he played well, oh, he was hell to deal with.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, you had a Mohawk too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

Ocho, ISO, can we get boxing back to the glory days? Boxers fighting each other and not this wannabe undefeated mess? Well, I don't think that's ever coming back, guys.

[Joe Johnson]

That's gonna be up to the box as hell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that. That money, right? That money, that money gonna force them to fight each other. You know, hopefully everything, hopefully everything goes well with Turkey Ali. No prayers up to him and whatever it is that he's going, you know, going through. But Turkey Ali had people actually fighting each other because of the purse or the money the money was making. The money was making sense. So. Okay, you know, let's get it on.

[Host (Ocho)]

What you thinking, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

They'll fight. You gotta get. Yeah, I'm like, Ocho you gotta get that damn money, right? You get that money, that money, that money talk that bs Walk a thousand miles.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You put the right fingers up there, gonna sign on the dotted line. Trust me.

[Host (Ocho)]

I agree with you guys. I think so, too. Tate Taylor, high school national champ, won yesterday, 1975, at the Pre Classic at 200 meters. He was sensational. The kid can absolutely. I mean, for him to go out there and the Olympic gold medals. Let's see. Le Tebogo, he crushed him. These kids. I don't know what these kids. I don't know what the kids. I mean, he ran 9, 9, 2 in the 100 meters. Now he's running 1975. I. I just don't know what the kids run. I don't know what these teenagers doing now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He was flying, boy, where are you from?

[Host (Ocho)]

And you see what Quincy Wilson last year run 4410. And I mean, and. And these high school. These high school ladies, they running, it's just. It's. It's just phenomenal. What they doing, man? I mean, hot. The hurdlers, you saw Brett, jamal. Brett go 13, go 1286. And Thorpe go 1291. Thorpe got the world record. It's at 1275 at the NCAAS. I mean, these kids just fly.

[Joe Johnson]

What's the difference, though? What you think the difference is nowadays compared to back when y' all was running?

[Host (Ocho)]

Well, they got training. They know more. They train. The tracks are different. Spikes and shoes are different. Yeah, technology, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Them folks getting up. Getting up out of them.

[Host (Ocho)]

Because. Because if you think about it.

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No.

[Host (Ocho)]

But no horse have touched Secretariat's race. He still got the record in the Kentucky Derby, still got the record in the Preakness, and he still got the record in the Belmont because what technology can you do? Can you. What different shoes you can't get him? No. Carbon fiber horseshoes, you can't get. So. But they made the tracks faster. They got a special type of mondo that's faster. Now you got training. It's just. They know more. But this, this kid here is phenomenal. 1975 and 18. Rolling out,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man.

[Host (Ocho)]

And you still. And you still got. No, no, a lot. I mean, he be Eddie. Be Kung Fu Kenny. He be

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kenny. Kenny came in fourth.

[Host (Ocho)]

No, he was in the Hunter. Kenny was in the Hunter. Kenny didn't run the 200 because Ajah. Ajai Red won the. Won the hundred. And Oblique Seville got second. And then Christian Coleman and then Kung Fu Kenny, what you call him? It was good to see Coleman get back to his Winning ways. But I don't, I don't know if he could recapture the form that he had in 17, 18, 17. I think he won the. Was 17 or with a 19. I think he would night. I think 19. He won the world championship because I think Justin Gatlin won it in 17 and he won it in 19 and then what you call 1 in 21, Fred Curley and then Noah Lyles. But yeah, I, I just, I, I don't, I don't know, man. I would like to. I can't wait to see Tate Taylor and, and Noah Lyles because that's. Noah is, is a tour. He's trying to get better at the 100, but without that takeoff, he get left in the block. These kids, they rolling out. You look at a job, the way he get out the blocks now he's so powerful. Tied to Nigeria national record yesterday at 984. He had a illegal win at the, at the NCAA. I think he read like 972, 973. It just. They kids flying now, man. These kids flying. Oh yeah, it was a great race yesterday between sha' Carri and Melissa Jefferson Wooden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, she came in second. That was, yeah, that was a good race. It was close.

[Host (Ocho)]

I didn't have the, they didn't have the St. Lucian and Julian Alfred who's been running phenomenal times. Yeah, De Asia Hodge, the Georgia Bulldog product, the great Brit. Man, I can't wait to see this thing. They get laid a little because I'm looking at this. Melissa only ran. This is like the only second one she carried. This is only her like up second or third and they're already running in the, in the 10 sevens. So when you put all them together, when you put sha' Carri and you put Melissa Jefferson, you put d' Asia Hodge and you put Julian Alfred and you get them in one of these Diamond League meets, in one of these fast tracks. Something special going, something special going to pop off. I've been a fan since your CBS days. Post game show, you and prime did Undisputed first take Club Sh Shay. Within five days, my fam suffered three deaths driving home for, for the funeral. I listen to Nightcap. Thanks, bro. Man, I am so, so sorry to hear that, man. I thought some prayers to go out to you and your family. That is a lot of, that is a lot of homegoing that you have to deal with. And yeah, seeming like you have to try to process one. You have to don't even get an opportunity to process another. Have to process another one. Man. So we're so sorry to hear that, man. But we're sending our thoughts and prayers out to you and hopefully everything. And we appreciate your support. That means a lot to us that in a time and situation that we can bring you some comfort. So thank you. Why are you so tough on Deandre Ayton? Because he has all that ability. He doesn't play hard. That bothers me. You cheat. He's saying he, he can't.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't reaches his potential potentially.

[Host (Ocho)]

You feel like he supposed to be

[Joe Johnson]

a lot better at seven foot.

[Host (Ocho)]

He absolutely do. Because he can do a lot better if he just, if he just played hard. I'm not saying I don't need you to be Shaq. I don't need you to be Elijah 1. I don't need you to be David Rob. I don't need. But I know you can be better than what you're playing. That effort. Your coach says I can't play him. His coach said in a playoff game, I just can't play him. Let that sink in. Imagine a coach saying to any player in any sport, I just can't play it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, liability.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Not a real protector.

[Host (Ocho)]

What's up big three? Ocho and LeBron need to have a who is the cheapest competition future nightcap outside episode. My guys. Malachi Tony is the biggest threat to Jeremiah Smith as a college football top receiver. Who is the better year ISO? Who stands out about Caleb Wilson's? What stands out about Caleb Wilson game? His biggest flaw. And is Chicago the right fit? Nah. Jeremiah smith is. Is NFL ready. You talking about a guy that's 6 foot 2, 6 foot 3, 220, 225 pounds, probably running high. Four three, four, four. Malachi Tony, he's phenomenal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's good.

[Host (Ocho)]

But Jeremiah Smith is, he's, he's the real deal. He's the real deal. And that's not saying Malachi Tony isn't. But Jeremiah Smith is prototypical. He's NFL. You look for a receiver. Jeremiah Smith has an NFL wide receiver body and he's a junior.

[Joe Johnson]

And hey, I think with Caleb Wilson, I think he is in a great position. Meaning in Chicago they got a lot of great young talent there and I think they really gonna feature him, uncle ocho, because at 6, 9, 610 long, athletic, can shoot the 3, can shoot the midi. Got a pretty good post up game. He's only gonna get better. I think he, he's a dark horse in this rookie class to win rookie of the year, bro. I think this dude Got a lot of talent, a lot of potential. It's going to be up to him, but he got all the tools. When you talking about putting it on the floor, scoring at all three, four levels, hell, he can do it. And, and he takes the defensive side, you know, just as serious as he does his offense. That's going to be the difference who's

[Host (Ocho)]

a better Viking, Randy Moss or Adrian Peters?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good question.

[Host (Ocho)]

They so different. I wish both of them could have finished their careers there. Both were so outstanding, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Randy, golly, Randy was different, huh?

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah, man. 17 touchdowns as a rookie.

[Joe Johnson]

Playing with Cece over there.

[Host (Ocho)]

They had CC and Jake. Jake Reed. Jake Reed had Robert Smith in the backfield.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, 17 teddies as a rookie.

[Tab Ramos]

That's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's impressive.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, the man Thanksgiving game Joe. The stat line was three catches for 163 yards.

[Host (Ocho)]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Host (Ocho)]

I was, you know, you know. Yo, you said the backup about Wilson, but hey, that kid from the Lakers car, man, he put on the show.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Host (Ocho)]

I just don't know with Luca and Ar if he's gonna get the same opportunities that he got getting in in the summer league. But he look like he gonna be a player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, potential wise he looked great. He had a great year Baylor, but yeah, he, he got caught. Look, he wrote his drag, his draft stock rolls during the Chicago pre draft workouts to where he went five on five. That man was killing it automatically they put him in the first round. But you're right, he got a lot of talent. He athletic, can shoot the three, he can score that ball. You're right. It just depends. You know, as a rookie man, everything kind of fluctuate. Everything be up and down during the season unless you like him, you like guy. But even, even yet still, those guys still have a tendency to struggle. And that's what you can hope from you get you, you get from your rookies is that they can somehow some way be consistent. But he nice though. He's nice.

[Host (Ocho)]

Please make sure you. Make sure you get this.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh man. Come on man.

[Host (Ocho)]

Come on bro. Make sure you get that side.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's all good. Joe is nothing to be ashamed of.

[Host (Ocho)]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. You know who I am, I'm your favorite unc, my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks out of Little Rock, Arkansas. That is ISO Joe Johnson, Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase your bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market and it drinks like an XO without the price. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, thank you guys for joining us tonight as you watch England ends Mexico run in the World Cup. 3 2. They got two early goals by Jude Bell Bellingham and then a PK by Harry Kane and that was the difference. They went 32 and Norway got two goals from Holland as he sent Brazil packing. Brazil had failed to advance to the quarterfinals for the first time since 1994. Holland makes the quarterfinals for the first time in the World cup history. So Holland carries Norway and as a matter of fact, he tied Messi and Mbappe for most goals scores thus far in the World cup with seven. North Norway advances 21 over Brazil. So again, thank you for joining us. I'm He's Ocho. He's ISO. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.

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