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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's the rage bait.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All?
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Karen & Georgia from My Favorite Murder
Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.
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My Favorite Murder Podcast Host
We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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My Favorite Murder Podcast Host
Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and Sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode, spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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ISO Joe Johnson
Goodbye. I think he really enjoys playmaking.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, he.
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ISO Joe Johnson
We all know he can score. Hell, he's the league leader, you know, in history. But I think he enjoys playmaking and making guys better around him. And obviously do I think he can make the San Antonio team better. Yes. But when you slow down the growth and development of some of those young guys, in particularly like Harper, because I think you're gonna have to move him to that damn starting lineup with that ball in his hand, man.
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Uncle Joe
Hold on. And Joe, as you get older, right, you got to be able to adapt. As you get older, you got to be able to adjust. LeBron showed he can adapt and he can adjust the different circumstances as opposed to how it was when he was in Cleveland.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He wasn't happy about it, though, Ocho.
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Uncle Joe
All right, wait, hold on, hold on. But he showed you do it and he can still be efficient. He showed he can still score, even being the third option. So who's to say he can't go to the spurs understanding, like you said. Okay, you know what? I don't want to. I don't want to shorten the growth spurt for these young players. I still want to allow them to continue to grow and learn the game. So I'm going to come here and take a step back and allow them to do just that. And where they need me, I will insert myself when need be.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's not how he's wired.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Nah.
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Uncle Joe
Trying to get that fifth one.
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My Favorite Murder Podcast Host
He.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Trying to get the fifth one and. And make as much money as he possibly can while contributing. He was not. Listen, he'll probably never admit this publicly. He was not happy with that third option role.
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NBC News Announcer
You.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He does not believe that Austin Reeves was a better player than him. He will concede. Luca. I don't believe he'll ever concede Austin Reed. And I think Austin, he.
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Karen & Georgia from My Favorite Murder
He.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He loves Austin Reeves. He took time out of with Austin Reeves when Austin Reeves with a rookie and. And. And believed in him and gave him opportunities when he was on the court. But it's just hard for me to believe knowing how a guy of that caliber is wired.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I agree with you. I could. I could be wrong.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I could be
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
that.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, at times in life, sometimes you Gotta sacrifice to get what you want.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Uncle Joe
Honestly, I'm willing to bet LeBron is willing to sacrifice whatever he needs to do to help the spurs get back to the Finals and this time, hoist that goddamn trophy. And if that means being the third option, whether I like it or not, I think he can do it because he's done it. He's done it his whole career. He's had to evolve over time. I'm not the same guy I used to be, but I can fit in any system. I can play in any system.
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ISO Joe Johnson
But Ocho, everything has revolved around him. You know, he's reiterated, you know, this postseason that, you know, I'm getting back to the number one option that I've always been.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
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ISO Joe Johnson
He. That being that third option, man, that was foreign to him.
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Uncle Joe
He.
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ISO Joe Johnson
He let you. He let that be known.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's never been.
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ISO Joe Johnson
He's never in life. He said, Hell, even in high school and junior high here, he never been no third option.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it was an adjustment to him to be the second option. Remember, you remember how when he first got to Miami, how awkward it was because he was trying to be the circle, the second option, like D. Wade. This your team? Dwayne said, nah, bro, you the best player. You lead. I. I think I'll figure it out.
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Uncle Joe
What did he show you he could do, though? Even if he didn't like it, for the betterment of the team?
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ISO Joe Johnson
I think he's good enough to do whatever he set his mind to. Now you saying, like, correct? Damn, if Bronze set out to be like, okay, I'm gonna come here and be the third option. Yes, he could do that. I just don't think he has. I. I don't see him moving like that, bro. I don't. I don't. Not when he's considered himself the goat as well. Nah, that man ain't doing that, bro.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Think about oo. When quarterbacks, when they want historically great quarterbacks to be, to mentor or move to the backup, they retire. They retire. You could never see Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Brett being backup.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It takes. And when he's been that. And like I said, he's like, look, when I was the number one option, look what I did. I led a team to the poll. I led a team, and we took down a team that people didn't think we gonna be. We beat the Houston Rockets, me as the lead at scoring 20, 24 points, 7. 8 rebounds, 7. 8 assists, something like that. I could do this.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, but. But Uncle Joe, as you get older in your career, LeBron is going to be 42.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Uncle Joe
Now he's in a position going to a team where he gets to take the, the, the, the weight and the shoulder and the burden of having to lead, it's off him. You get that monkey off his back. He doesn't have to do that no more. He can let everybody else do the dirty work. We talked about this yesterday. Think about this, right, Messi, the way the Argentine team is constructed. Right. Messi don't got to do nothing half the time. If a game is played in 90 minutes, Messi's just walking around, standing there about 70 minutes. It's moments of brilliance where Messi can dictate and facilitate and control the game. LeBron can do the same thing. He doesn't need to be the one with the ball in his hands. He can allow everyone else to. To put their construction hat on and do all the dirty work. We need LeBron. In those moments, what can he give you? In those moments, we know what he can do. I'm telling you, he can. He can do that in San Antonio. He doesn't have to be the lead dog for me.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe, it's just. No, Joe. It's just hard for me to believe a man to spend that kind of money on his body, get to the gym five hours early, do all that working out to be the third option.
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Uncle Joe
It ain't about the third option. All the money he spent on his body, everything he done, going to the gym at five in the morning, look at the resume, look at the accolades.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's for him to be the.
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Uncle Joe
Hold on. He's been rewarded for all that you just named. He's been rewarded for it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know. And he wants to. Because Ocho, he can't. Can't. I. I hate saying can't, but it's hard, extremely hard. When you've been the lead dog and all of a sudden they don't even let you be number two, you're number three.
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Uncle Joe
Well, I mean, at that point, it would just be stat patterning. If he's not able to do it, you got to be able to adjust. You got to be able to adapt, especially when you know you're not the same person you used to be. You still trying to lead. It make no sense.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The only thing on LeBron is real thinks he. He's lost some is athleticism. He thinks he's the same player. Ojo. He knows he can't, like, play 38, 39, 40 minutes. Like, he wants good Joe in his 20s. But if you told LeBron said okay, you're the number one option on a team, say like Sacramento, LeBron James believe he can give you 27.
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ISO Joe Johnson
For me, he's playing from shoulders up as opposed to these young dudes playing waist down.
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Uncle Joe
That's a good one.
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ISO Joe Johnson
He ain't out here trying to outrun nobody. He gonna out think you. Ocho. Like he, he understands he's so many years ahead of a lot of these young cats who in, in the NBA. He understands that he's defining the odds of being a 40 something year old, 42, 41 year old NBA player playing at his highest level. We've never seen him before, bro. I think he enjoys that. I think he enjoys defeating the eyes, bro, being the only player to ever play 41, 42 and still be able to put up the numbers that he's putting up. I think he really enjoys this moment.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, I, I, I think it's selfish.
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ISO Joe Johnson
You think it's selfish? It could be, it could be a little selfishness, but yeah, I think, I
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Uncle Joe
think, I think it's selfish to understand that you're not the same. Understand you can't do it or mustered up like you did before when you were in your younger days when you was in Cleveland. You know, we use the heat. You're a different player now. Even if you are thinking from the shoulders up. It's a mind game now at this point where you're thinking a little bit more intelligently. So as intelligent as he is, why would you not understand what your role is at this point in your career?
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ISO Joe Johnson
Ocho, how many greats aren't selfish?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's how you became great. Didn't you say you had to step on somebody to become a billionaire? To become historically great, how selfish must you be self A lot of times selfishness, what does it cost you if you married your relationship? Look at the, look at the great coaches and what happened.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah,
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
remember, you got to be a little selfish to be. You got to be a little selfish.
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ISO Joe Johnson
You do, bro.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you got to be a lot selfish. Ain't no little.
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Uncle Joe
I got you.
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Discord Caller
I got you.
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Uncle Joe
I got you. Hey, listen, I'm just throwing my two cents in it, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We hear you. Another year, another Browns quarterback competition. According to Jeremy Fowler, Shador Sanders has bridged the gap between him and DeShawn Watson. DeShawn went to the spring as a clear cut favorite and then Shador has bridged the gap. According to the athletic, Watson lacked consistency during OTAs. Watson seemed healthy and occasionally throw downfield with confidence, but he lacked consistency and threw too often into traffic. Ocho.
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Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you thinking?
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Uncle Joe
I ain't really thinking job to lose. No, Yeah, I, I told you that. And that's exactly how it's going to be for those that, in the chat that, that love football. Whether you're Cleveland Browns fan or not. Deshaun Watson is the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, the job that Deshaun Watson is going to get. Uncle Joe, it is his job to lose. He has six weeks, I guarantee you. Listen to me now. I'm telling. I'm calling it right now. Uncle Joe. He has six weeks to make sure that team is playing above or better than whatever the expectations may be for that team. And that quarterback, if he's not Shador Sanders, will follow, will fall in line as the backup and be the starter for the remainder of the season.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I don't, I don't. I don't think. I don't think it's going to take six weeks. I, I think because he's had. He's been off for so long and that, that, that football is a timing rhythm thing, especially at the quarterback position. And if you can't be consistent in this league, fellas, y' all know y' all played it, bro. They only gonna deal with so much now. They gonna give him an opportunity, Unc.
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Karen & Georgia from My Favorite Murder
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
They don't get. But I don't think it's going to take six weeks before Shador get in there. That's just me.
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Uncle Joe
Oh, if they, if they, if they doing bad. If they doing. If they're doing bad. I think most of the time I could be wrong.
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Discord Caller
You.
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Uncle Joe
You'd be better suited to answer that. When it comes to a quarterback and you got somebody over your shoulder if you're not playing well, I thought maybe it would be the six week mark because you don't want to lose too much of the season where you still have a chance to compete, at least play for something.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, the question is, when is their bye week? How soon is their bye week?
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Uncle Joe
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How bad? I mean, is the offense stagnant?
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Uncle Joe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I mean, like three and out. Three and out. Three and out. Pick. Fumble. Now we maybe have three, four weeks of that and then we got to make a switch.
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ISO Joe Johnson
That's.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's just hard to be off the length of time because we got to go back to like, Deshaun hadn't been that guy, what, since his last. Because, remember last year in Houston. Excuse me, his last Year in Houston, Ocho, he led the league in passing.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, he went crazy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Then all that information comes out. He didn't play another snap, even though he was still on the roster. He goes to, he goes to Cleveland. He misses the first 11 games. The next year he gets hurt with a shoulder. The next year he tears his Achilles.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So when you look at it, in the last four to five years, he's played one season. If you, if you add the games up, I believe in his totality. Yeah, it's hard, man. It is hard. Imagine any other Sport In a five year period, you play the equivalent of one season. If it's basketball, it's 82 games. So basically you play 16 games a season. Baseball is 162. So imagine you playing, you know, 32 games, 34 games a season. It's just hard.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, listen, I wish the best. I wish him the best. It's all going to come down to forget Deshaun Watson. It's going to come down to how well are the people surrounding me going to be. How well are my receivers going to always be where I expect them to be? Are they going to be able to get open?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can they block?
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ISO Joe Johnson
Can they run?
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Uncle Joe
Hey, the quarterback job is a lot easier, Joe, when you can rely on everything that's surrounding.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey.
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Uncle Joe
Or your supporting cast makes things easier
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ISO Joe Johnson
when you look at it. Hell, they got at all the skill positions. Okay, Ocho. I mean, they got some hell of a players, man.
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Uncle Joe
Yeah, they got, they got something. They added something. They added.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. So I think he got plenty of weapons that he can use. It's just the, the rhythm and timing that you needed that quarterback position, bro, after being off. For real. For real, three, four, five years. Damn. It's hard to come in thinking this man gonna be him. You feel me? That's gonna, that's hard
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
because we remember what him was, because we keep hoping Ocho to see him. The last time we saw desean Watson start a full season play like that, we remember what he was. So we just keep saying, okay, yeah, that. I don't know if he'll ever be that again.
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ISO Joe Johnson
That's what I'm saying.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, honestly, I ain't gonna put nothing passing again. I think it all comes down to supporting cast. Them boys got to be on point. They have to make his job easy. And how do you make desean walk your job easy? Being accountable, being able for him, being able to rely on you making plays, being consistent, always winning your individual battle so he always has an outlet.
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ISO Joe Johnson
They don't have that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They don't have that. That caliber receiver Ocho consistently get open the. The chases, the jsn, they don't have that.
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Uncle Joe
They don't have it. But that system that they do have. Deshaun got to know it like the back of his hand. I'm not sure who the officer coordinator is. I don't know him. You know, I don't know his name by heart, but he has to learn. Listen, if I had.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Todd Monk is the coordinator.
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Uncle Joe
Oh, Todd Monkin.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's the head coach and the coordinator.
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Uncle Joe
Okay. If I have some discrepancies and inconsistency with my quarterback, then I have to know those that are around them. I got to understand their strengths and their weaknesses and put them in positions to make my quarterback job easy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What if your wives.
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Uncle Joe
I gotta. I gotta know what everyone else does well for this offense to go.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What if your wide receiver strength and weaknesses isn't what your quarterback does well? And what about if your quarterback. What he does well isn't what they do well? Not what we do.
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Uncle Joe
hey, hey.
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Boost Mobile Advertiser
Honestly.
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Uncle Joe
Honestly. Somebody shouldn't be in the league. Boy, if it's that bad, boy, I got to. I got to be able to rely on somebody, man.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Listen, I want to see the Browns be competitive, bro.
- [19:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I really do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
United States manager Mauricio. How you say his last name? Pachetto. Pacino. Pacino. Pachetino says start attacker Christian Pulisic is doing much better in terms of an injury to his left calf, which but will be assessed by the medical staff later in the day to determine his availability to play against Australia. Ocho, what game is on early. Do you see him playing tomorrow?
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Uncle Joe
And I would hope so. I done. Man, I done flew six hours down here to Seattle to watch USA play Australia. I'm hoping he play, but that's. Oh, boy. That's our wonder kid. What are we talking about? Hey, he better take a Toro.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I need Balagoon.
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Uncle Joe
Hey, Balagoon boy. Hey, he nice boy.
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NBC News Announcer
He.
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Uncle Joe
He is nice. He's. He's the real deal. But obviously, you need. You need Pulisic out there because he open. He opens it up for everybody else, basically. He's able to do. Coming off the guy coming off the wing, the midfield. Thought we played so well, Uncle Joe. We played so well when we played Paraguay last week. I didn't even know who the hell I was watching. I'm gonna be honest with you. Our US Men's team, Joe, has never looked like that.
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ISO Joe Johnson
You act like Paraguay. They supposed to be like that.
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Uncle Joe
Nah, Paraguay ain't like that. But even though Paraguay is not like that, I still never seen us play like that. Anytime we did play against inferior opponents, we play down to the comments.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You struggle.
- [20:32]
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My Favorite Murder Podcast Host
I turned off news altogether.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hate to say it, but I
- [21:13]
Sleep Apnea PSA Narrator
don't trust much of anything.
- [21:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's the rage bait.
- [21:19]
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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- [21:29]
NBC News Announcer
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Uncle Joe
Why is it always chaos when we link up?
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Nissan Rogue Crew Member
Because nobody plans anything, bro. Good thing the rug's ready like that for real.
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Rain, dirt, whatever. No available all wheel drive, five modes. We still outside.
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Uncle Joe
And they got some kick too.
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Nissan Rogue Crew Member
That turbo torque is crazy. The most in its class. It moves. Moves.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Load up.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We out.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Weather, traffic.
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Karen & Georgia from My Favorite Murder
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Uncle Joe
I ain't never seen a fight like that. So I say, listen, I'm not missing that game if they gonna look like that, like they looked on the ball in all three phases of the game, offensively, defensively. Oh, I'm coming to see that. Now through six hours, Pulisic better play.
- [24:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And now it's time for our final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
- [24:17]
Uncle Joe
Joe, you laughing Joe? Well, you know how long that flight from Miami was?
- [24:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that's what I told you.
- [24:23]
NBC News Announcer
I thought.
- [24:23]
Uncle Joe
I thought you ain't gonna play. You better come get my cab.
- [24:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Before we get to the super chat, we got one video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen.
- [24:34]
Discord Caller
Unk Ocho and still King ISO.
- [24:38]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hello.
- [24:38]
Discord Caller
Check me out. So y' all left a response on my comment on Yalls post the other day and told me to tell my fine ass mama that y' all said hello. Well, she said hello. Also, I got a little situation going on. I've been with this girl for about seven years and I wound up having a baby on her with another girl. But I'm still in love with this girl and I want to be with her, but I also want to be in my kid's life. So any advice from y' all like, I don't know, man. Also go Duke. Double ACC champs, baby.
- [25:10]
ISO Joe Johnson
First off, who said somebody's mama?
- [25:15]
Uncle Joe
I don't know who that was.
- [25:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know.
- [25:16]
Uncle Joe
He said somebody mama.
- [25:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
He says fine ass mama. I don't know. I know I ain't said I ain't disrespectful like that.
- [25:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't disrespectful publicly like that. I know I know his mom wasn't the one that took that picture with her son in the high school. And she was like that with the white pants. So that wasn't his mom.
- [25:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't know. I ain't see. I didn't see. I didn't see, I didn't see. But, but, but on another note, if you had a baby on that girl, man, you might well let her go, bro. Let it go.
- [25:52]
Uncle Joe
Hey, you gotta ask a woman.
- [25:53]
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no, they ain't never gonna forget that, D. She ain't never gonna forget that. No.
- [25:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, boy. That lip she get back gonna hurt.
- [26:02]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah. Hey, baby, baby, you sleep? Hey, if you was dating somebody, right, and they had a child on you, could you see yourself still dealing with that person? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, homie. Yeah, just go ahead and let that go. Yeah, go ahead, let that go. Yeah, you ain't gonna never live that down. And obviously, yeah, it's gonna get thrown
- [26:29]
ISO Joe Johnson
in your face
- [26:31]
Uncle Joe
every time. Just go ahead and be in your child life. Matter of fact, whoever you had a child from, if you can, you know, you might want to, you know, try that route.
- [26:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's a tough one.
- [26:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It is, it is.
- [26:47]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [26:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, it takes. It takes a special type of. It takes a special type of a woman to forgive
- [26:57]
Discord Caller
a child.
- [26:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think. Obviously it's a lot different between boyfriend and girlfriend and somebody being married, but still. He said they've been together for seven years, you know.
- [27:09]
Uncle Joe
You know what seven years is? You know what black folk call it? A seven year itch. Yeah, yeah, that seven year ish, Joe, that. That's. Listen, if you can get past seven years, but, hey, you might well get married at that point.
- [27:20]
NBC News Announcer
Another.
- [27:21]
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, yeah, you gotta move on, bro.
- [27:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I think I. I think, bro, she might forgive you, but she'll never forget it.
- [27:34]
ISO Joe Johnson
Never forget.
- [27:35]
Uncle Joe
You can leave that one down too. And you know what? She has a. She has a green light to do whatever she want for the rest of her life.
- [27:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's what I told you before you were a she. Her lick back. Because the question is the hair, the thing. Your lady. Y' all been together seven years and she had a baby. Would you stay with her?
- [27:58]
Uncle Joe
Stay. Hey, that's a good one. I like the way you flip that thing like a pancake, boy.
- [28:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No matter. No matter how thick or how flat it is. Pancake got two sides.
- [28:09]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hello.
- [28:10]
Uncle Joe
Imagine somebody else all in your girl, huh?
- [28:14]
Karen & Georgia from My Favorite Murder
Come on.
- [28:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, come on, man. See, you have to do that, Joe.
- [28:17]
Uncle Joe
No, I'm just saying. I want. I wanted to visualize it so he get a better understanding. You feel me? Just think of. Think about. Think about the noises she make, huh? But it ain't. It ain't from you. I mean, I'm just saying.
- [28:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm just trying to.
- [28:39]
ISO Joe Johnson
I tell you what, though. She ain't gonna trust your ass. You going nowhere doing nothing. So she gonna always question. She probably gonna want you to share your location with her. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to deal with none of that.
- [28:54]
Uncle Joe
You're gonna be miserable, man. Go ahead. Go ahead and leave. Cut your losses, Twin. Cut your losses.
- [29:02]
ISO Joe Johnson
Every time you leave the house, she gonna make sure you got that damn location on. Nah, you don't want.
- [29:07]
Boost Mobile Advertiser
No.
- [29:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Every time she leave the house cause you thinking she gonna get that lick back.
- [29:13]
Uncle Joe
Oh, you don't want to deal with that. Just go ahead and let it go, Twin.
- [29:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Just. Hey, it was fun. Hey, I'm sorry and. But, yeah, you got to car wise detail service panel. Who y' all taking to start y' all team with Kareem Dream? Shaq, Wimby, Jokic, Tim Wilt.
- [29:34]
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn. I'm taking Shaq. I don't give a damn what nobody say.
- [29:39]
Uncle Joe
Well, shoot, the way. The way they. The way they talk about what he did back in the day, I'm gonna take Will. You know, I. I still ain't seen nobody doing. Well, did.
- [29:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I Ain't seen nobody do that. Ain't Nobody gonna average 30 or 24. You know what, Joe? I think it really has a lot to do with error.
- [30:01]
Discord Caller
Yeah.
- [30:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Who you taking on?
- [30:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because the.
- [30:15]
ISO Joe Johnson
Cause listen, everybody talking probably dream.
- [30:21]
Uncle Joe
What I can see.
- [30:23]
ISO Joe Johnson
Dream. Dream ain't no bad pig here.
- [30:29]
Uncle Joe
Based on everything we talking about now, y' all told me what was the greatest sin of all time. What we talking about.
- [30:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But like us in that era,
- [30:40]
Uncle Joe
we picking one error. We can't. We can't. We can't. We. We can't use errors as a description.
- [30:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You have to, Ocho, because you think. You think we'll go be able to do what he doing in this era with all. Because there are more seven footer. You gotta realize that one, but probably two seven footers when we'll play.
- [31:01]
Uncle Joe
All right, well, I ain't taking. I'm taking now.
- [31:10]
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't. I already got him. I already got him. You gotta pick somebody up.
- [31:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep. So you gotta take Wimby, Jokic, Tim.
- [31:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
He going through all them. Shaq going through all them.
- [31:22]
Uncle Joe
I got.
- [31:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got Dream held his own. So I already seen what Dream.
- [31:26]
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no, no.
- [31:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Adri. Adream gave him fits on the. On the offensive end, so you got to give Shaq fits on the offensive.
- [31:34]
ISO Joe Johnson
Dream wore him out in that finals. What was that, 94?
- [31:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, 94, 95.
- [31:47]
Uncle Joe
Hey, what position Ronnie Cycling played, huh?
- [31:49]
ISO Joe Johnson
Ronnie Cycling?
- [31:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Center.
- [31:51]
ISO Joe Johnson
He's a seller.
- [31:53]
Discord Caller
Okay. I just.
- [31:54]
ISO Joe Johnson
What you know about running? Cycling?
- [31:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You remember he played for the heat?
- [31:58]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I'm from Miami, Joe.
- [31:59]
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay. That's. Who you taking?
- [32:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he taking.
- [32:01]
ISO Joe Johnson
Running, cycling.
- [32:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him and Derrick Coleman.
- [32:04]
Uncle Joe
No, I just. I just think about sinners. That's all.
- [32:06]
ISO Joe Johnson
You get your ass tore out the frame.
- [32:09]
Uncle Joe
No, I'm just thinking about sinners. When you mentioned sinners, the first thing I said. Wait, Miami? Yeah, Sinners. Okay. Yeah, I mean, he can't compete with them boys, you know, we talking about. So
- [32:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
LeBron as a 16 year old, was driving a Hummer in high school. Now, how many 16 year olds had
- [32:25]
ISO Joe Johnson
a Hummer in high school? Not at that time.
- [32:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not many. Unless. Unless your dad was Bezos or Zuckerberg, you know, a Bill Gates, somebody like that.
- [32:37]
Uncle Joe
Hey, I was.
- [32:38]
Discord Caller
I was.
- [32:38]
Uncle Joe
I was getting. She was 16, but I was on.
- [32:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
I was on the house. Hey, hold on while y' all talking. Well, I seen some. My son went to a private school his junior senior year, Kings Ridge. Them for driving Lamborghinis, Mercedes trucks. Yeah, in high school, Ocho.
- [32:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wow. Look, look, look.
- [33:00]
ISO Joe Johnson
I took it. I'm taking them to school for like, the first couple weeks because it's about 20, 30 minutes from the crib. I see how them young boys pulling up. I'm like, damn. I felt obligated to let him drive my Range Rover. I was like, man, you gonna drive my Range Rover? I let him drive my Range Rover.
- [33:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It wasn't three weeks.
- [33:25]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hell, somebody hadn't ran into him. I'm like, oh, man.
- [33:29]
Uncle Joe
Damn.
- [33:30]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [33:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dr. Frank L. Bell said, hey, Fab. Ocho. Love the new Adidas commercial.
- [33:39]
Uncle Joe
Thank you.
- [33:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
It's dope. I like. I like them gold thing y' all boy had on y' all feet. What?
- [33:45]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [33:45]
Nissan Rogue Crew Member
Yeah.
- [33:46]
Uncle Joe
Appreciate that. Appreciate that.
- [33:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's up, Nightcap? Big three. Y' all in y' all prime and y' all going out to a spot together. Who getting the most numbers? Who getting the coldest lady in the spot?
- [33:56]
ISO Joe Johnson
Who in the hell.
- [33:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who was hell when they was. Well, hey, hey.
- [34:05]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this. In my younger days, me and the homies, we used to. We used to have little best, like, that who get the most numbers by the end of the night, who had the most. I'm talking about worthy, though. You know, that. That's. That's. That's worthy. Talking to, like, we. We used to have little competitions like that, bro.
- [34:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [34:25]
Uncle Joe
Yeah. I'm kind of cautious because every. Everybody here, you know, depending on when you go in the room, you know, you gotta. You got to weigh your option now, you know, Everybody is an expense.
- [34:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [34:37]
Uncle Joe
Some expenses there is high, and some is low. I want. I want my experience.
- [34:41]
Discord Caller
Right.
- [34:42]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, and don't let us. Don't let us have the same taste in women.
- [34:46]
Uncle Joe
Oh, yo, that.
- [34:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That. That's the majority. I mean, we do. If. If you could. That's why everybody keeps saying, man.
- [34:55]
ISO Joe Johnson
Why.
- [34:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why everybody what? All NBA and NFL players, why they keep. Because they got the same taste. And those are the women that be at the place that we frequent.
- [35:06]
Uncle Joe
They know what they're doing.
- [35:06]
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [35:09]
Uncle Joe
In order to get. In order to get what you want, you got to hang out the same places.
- [35:13]
ISO Joe Johnson
If you're trying to get chose, you got to be in the place.
- [35:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh? If I. If. If I want fish for dinner, where am I going? I'm going to the fish market.
- [35:23]
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
- [35:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Duh. If you're trying to get an athlete, where are you gonna go? Where do athletes hang out at? Once you figure that out. Okay, let me go and see if I can get chosen. Nice ladies. Where do the nice ladies hang out at? Okay, let me go see if I can see what's going.
- [35:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
What's really going on. It ain't that complicated.
- [35:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It ain't.
- [35:46]
Uncle Joe
Hey, they pretend like it's all innocent. Oh, I was only there with my girl.
- [35:50]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I'm only in town for a couple days. I just came to visit. Yeah, okay.
- [35:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's just enough. I don't want you here any longer. Nah, it's. You know, I was shy back in the day. You know, I. Hey, I'm cool. You know, I'm still shy now.
- [36:12]
Onplus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
Yeah.
- [36:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I would. You know, I ain't trying to take nobody home. I'm leaving the club just like I came. I came by myself. I'm gonna leave by myself.
- [36:20]
ISO Joe Johnson
That ain't how you used to move back then.
- [36:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's how I move.
- [36:23]
Uncle Joe
Like.
- [36:23]
ISO Joe Johnson
You probably move like that now. You wouldn't.
- [36:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no, not. Oh, man, I would definitely.
- [36:28]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, see, now you wouldn't. But back then.
- [36:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not. Not. Not. Bring a home from. From the club. Oh, no, no.
- [36:38]
Uncle Joe
No, Hey, I take care of business at. Well, I ain't never go to no club, hu. So when you see her, huh?
- [36:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Maybe a day or two. It all depends on when I meet her.
- [36:54]
Uncle Joe
Okay, so let's say you met her on a Monday.
- [36:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't gonna meet her on a Monday. I didn't go out on a Monday. I mean, maybe a Tuesday night or a Friday night. And so I was like, it'll be about two weeks, a week or two.
- [37:07]
Uncle Joe
A week.
- [37:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't press a week or two.
- [37:09]
ISO Joe Johnson
It's the same thing. I'm saying the same. Whatever she'll do on a Tuesday night, trust me, she'll do on a Saturday night too, now.
- [37:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, if she. If she want to do it that night, she'll wait two weeks.
- [37:25]
ISO Joe Johnson
That's how. See, that's how you have them falling in love, though. You haven't fallen in love like that.
- [37:31]
Uncle Joe
Oh, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Oh, he's such a gentleman. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I ain't trying to hear that, man. If we meet on Monday, I'm trying to test drive a car Tuesday. Now, come on, man got angry. What we doing? Let me grow, man. I'm trying to test you. I want to see if I want to lease you.
- [37:58]
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay, okay. I like that, Ojo.
- [38:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like that.
- [38:01]
Uncle Joe
Talk about Joe, I ain't got time to be playing no game waiting.
- [38:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't never touched. Drove a car. I already know what I want.
- [38:09]
My Favorite Murder Podcast Host
Huh?
- [38:09]
Uncle Joe
Okay, I got.
- [38:10]
ISO Joe Johnson
I already know what you're gonna buy the car before you test drive it.
- [38:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I know the kind of car I'm looking for. Look like it. I just need to know. Hey, I just need to know. Oh, Joe. I just need to know. It got low miles on it. I know somebody done driven it.
- [38:26]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [38:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I just want. Hey, hey. Cause you.
- [38:29]
Discord Caller
Hey.
- [38:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The last thing I want to do is buy a rental.
- [38:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hello.
- [38:31]
Uncle Joe
Right.
- [38:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because you know, people don't give a damn about a rental. They join them with speed breakers. They slam it on brakes. They driving 150 miles an hour.
- [38:39]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [38:40]
Uncle Joe
And you know, they go, they gonna tear rental up.
- [38:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why don't never buy real. Don't never buy a car from a rental car.
- [38:47]
Uncle Joe
But the funny thing about it is, Uncle Joe, it's easy to tell who to rental and who's not. It's easy to be able to tell who's for fun and who's to keep around. I mean, based on our experience and based on where we are, it's. It's easy to know Man.
- [39:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Joe, man, this joker here, man.
- [39:10]
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey.
- [39:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't you want to wait? Don't you like wait? I like. Don't you like to wait, like, two weeks? A month? Two months?
- [39:17]
Boost Mobile Advertiser
A month?
- [39:17]
Uncle Joe
You think I'm gonna wait a month to see what that.
- [39:19]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, it depends on the mood I'm in.
- [39:22]
Uncle Joe
Ain't no. Hey, Joe. Ain't no mood.
- [39:24]
ISO Joe Johnson
It depends on the mood I'm in.
- [39:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It depends.
- [39:27]
Uncle Joe
I'm trying to rearrange your furniture. Talk about some weight.
- [39:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
I told you. Hey, hey, hey, Uncle, I'm blowing his phone up. After he. After he. See, after he lay that. After he lay his pipe down in that rent house and he wondered why they steady calling him. Yeah, yeah, he already know he got him.
- [39:45]
Nissan Rogue Advertiser
Hey, Unc.
- [39:46]
Uncle Joe
Take him on about. About. About 37 days before he doing try each other.
- [39:50]
ISO Joe Johnson
That's how they fall in love. That's how he.
- [39:53]
Uncle Joe
Oh, girl, he. They all in the group chat. Girl, he's such a gentleman. He ain't even try nothing. What?
- [39:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, hey.
- [40:00]
ISO Joe Johnson
He took me out to eat, dropped me off at home. Didn't try to come in or nothing.
- [40:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yep.
- [40:05]
Uncle Joe
I ain't trying to be a nigga.
- [40:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's me.
- [40:07]
Uncle Joe
I meet you on Monday, you gonna touch every wall in the house on Tuesday. I ain't trying every wall. Hey, my hair up on top of the ceiling fan, huh? What are we talking about?
- [40:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't turn it on, Auto. You don't want to drown. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Come on, Ocho, man. Betsy. Hey, Chat. See, I keep telling y'.
- [40:34]
Uncle Joe
All.
- [40:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I keep telling y'. All. It's Ocho, Joe.
- [40:38]
ISO Joe Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [40:40]
Uncle Joe
No, no, no. Hey. This, this. No, this. I'm not number one. I'm just not about wasting no time. What we wasting time for?
- [40:47]
ISO Joe Johnson
You won't get to know her.
- [40:49]
Uncle Joe
Like, get the.
- [40:50]
ISO Joe Johnson
You won't get to know about her.
- [40:53]
Uncle Joe
Get to know what, Joe? Because there's nothing I'm gonna find out about her getting to know her that's gonna change me, Wanda.
- [41:00]
ISO Joe Johnson
So, you know, so, so, so why? Why. Why have to go so soon when
- [41:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
you can wait, like a week?
- [41:05]
ISO Joe Johnson
Because she gonna do the same thing.
- [41:08]
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, if she gonna do the same thing, what the hell we waiting for? When I go to Dunkin' Donuts, I want my donut. I don't care nothing about what's feeling in the middle. When you get to know people, that's all. The feeling in the middle. I don't care about that. I want the goddamn donut.
- [41:24]
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay, I got You. I got you. I got you, Joe.
- [41:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
To say in chat. Y' all see how Joe.
- [41:30]
ISO Joe Johnson
How's Joe is?
- [41:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm telling y'. All. Y' all sleep on Joe. Y' all let Joe let that shine. Hey, he the cool brother.
- [41:38]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Nah, nah, nah.
- [41:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, God.
- [41:40]
ISO Joe Johnson
I see, I see. I see y' all game. I see what's going on.
- [41:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I.
- [41:44]
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, I'm like a flux in between both of y'. All. I ain't like Ocho. I ain't really. I ain't trying that. That one night. All that.
- [41:51]
Uncle Joe
I ain't.
- [41:52]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm patient. I'm pay like my game poison patient. I'm patient.
- [41:56]
Nissan Rogue Advertiser
I ain't.
- [41:57]
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't in a rush to do nothing.
- [42:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's L, Joe. But see you. They gotta realize, Joe, I wasn't a starter either. I sat the bench. Hey, hey. I gotta pay. Just a Joe.
- [42:12]
ISO Joe Johnson
There you go.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There you go.
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Uncle Joe
You know what? You know what? You know what? You know. You know what? I understand. See, this, this is the problem with y', all, right, Is you think about waiting around and trying to see and doing things the right way and, and getting to know and. You ever had expectations?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hate to say it, but I
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's the rage bait.
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ISO Joe Johnson
From the show last night to this drive. Why is it never chill?
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Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of chaos.
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Uncle Joe
And you visualize something being good and then all is waiting and you be like this what the hell I waited for yes was trash. I'm trying to eliminate all that because if I meet you on Monday. Hold on. If I meet you on Monday not
- [46:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
trash though maybe it didn't meet the expectations.
- [46:07]
Uncle Joe
No, I done had no trash.
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Nissan Rogue Advertiser
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- [46:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Golly crash.
- [46:10]
Uncle Joe
I meet your Monday let's get this out the way Tuesday so I know you're gonna be here for the long haul cause my Tuesdays get turned into seven years quick. Hear me hey Joe, you laughing A one night stand could turn into six seven years quick. I ain't got time to play I know If I'm gonna be, I'm be here or not. You know, you can make me wait six months. You make me wait one day either. I'm gonna be here whether I want to based on that one night, all that playing around, trying to be cute and. Oh, I don't do that. Well, you know what? Go ahead you for the next.
- [46:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, Ocho, I don't know what she had, man. She. Ocho said she was trash. Joe. I don't know if I. I mean it, but. Not up to par, but it ain't trash.
- [46:51]
Uncle Joe
Hey, if you're not up, the party's trash.
- [46:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn.
- [46:58]
Uncle Joe
Hey, all this waiting around, man, listen, dude gonna be there if. He gonna be there regardless. If you want to be there, it don't matter whether you wait, do it.
- [47:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm a firm believe in that. OO if I like you, I like you. If I don't and you can't do enough, but damn.
- [47:13]
ISO Joe Johnson
But damn. O. I don't want nothing too easy now. Like, if it's too easy, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm sorry. I'm cool.
- [47:21]
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe.
- [47:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, how you, Joe? It. It might be a situation where you the only one that she may wait. I'm just saying.
- [47:35]
Uncle Joe
Hey, that's the game they play, man.
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Nissan Rogue Advertiser
They.
- [47:37]
Uncle Joe
Hey, hold on, Uncle Joe. They know who to play with like that.
- [47:40]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [47:41]
Uncle Joe
Hear me? Because some opportunities you not gonna get as often depending on who the individual is trying to holler at. You play that waiting game. Some dude. Well, you know what? You ain't really who I want, so I know I can play with you like that.
- [47:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, yes.
- [47:57]
Uncle Joe
Some dude, man. It's some dude. Oh, man. Wait, who, man? Girl bout next. Got time for that?
- [48:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know why y' all keep trying to put me at number one. With Father Day around the corner, no matter. Or if with high school, college, or the pros. What game do you wish your dad was at?
- [48:15]
Uncle Joe
Ooh. Ah, I like that one. Miami Beach High School versus Highly Miami Lakes. The quarterback, Rohan Davey was a quarterback at that time for Hialeah Miami Lakes. It was my first playoff game as a high schooler. The one game my grandfather didn't attend. He and I obviously he had gotten killed earlier that day when I was preparing to go to the game. And that's the one game I wish he had been to. He was always on the sideline. One time you were in there. I obviously, kind of. And when I'm young like that, you don't think anything. Anything is wrong. You just Think. Okay. He missed the game finally. And then, Pops, it passed away, man, for me.
- [49:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sorry to hear that, Ojo.
- [49:02]
Uncle Joe
I never forget that. Remember Davy?
- [49:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the lsu.
- [49:08]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [49:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He played with the Patriots.
- [49:11]
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
- [49:11]
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
- [49:13]
Uncle Joe
And they whooped their ass for me.
- [49:15]
ISO Joe Johnson
It will probably be my last high school game. High school was the best to me. Okay, O Joe. I had fun in college, don't get me wrong. Met some cool cats. The pros, obviously, was great, but high school was so organic, bro, because it was guys who I really grew up with and played ball with. But my last high school game was a championship game against North Little Rock, who was our rival. We were one, they were two. It couldn't get no better than that. It couldn't get no better than that. And when I. Talking about. Boy, we stumped a mud hole in them, folks. Oh, man, I wish my pops would have been there, bro. But it is. It's no better feeling than that. I still got the game. I had it on cassette. I got to put it on. I got to put on a disc to where I. You know, I watch it from time to time. I don't know about y', all, but I enjoy watching a lot of them old games I played in high school, college, even the pros.
- [50:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I. I need. You know what, Joe? I need to go get. Get some of that high school. I mean, college. Good boy. I put that a mean demonstration. You know what? I. I would probably say, Yeah, I would like to see him. But the super bowl, because I wanted him to see his son playing the Super Bowl.
- [50:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [50:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And to have my dad. To have my dad. Cause I'd have, like. I'd ask Mike. My dad has never really seen me play. Can I have him on the sideline? Because I really never. I really never ask.
- [50:47]
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, my homeboys come. I would get. They'd get past. I get. I always kept my homeboys on the sideline. You get your homeboys on the sideline, Ocho?
- [50:57]
Uncle Joe
Yeah, absolutely.
- [50:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know, my homeboys always stayed. Always stayed on the sideline.
- [51:01]
Uncle Joe
Matter of fact, even still to this day, remember, I had. Remember I had butt on the sideline?
- [51:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [51:06]
Uncle Joe
I mean, yeah. Say Cincinnati, boy. They can do no. They can do no wrong in my eyes, man. The fact that I don't abuse it, Uncle Joe, anytime I come, it's always love.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
My a. My pops enjoyed it, bro. He like. I tell y', all, I didn't really.
- [51:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Really.
- [51:24]
ISO Joe Johnson
Now I seen him when I was a kid, 8, 9 years old. You know, he lived with my grandparents. I used to go down there all the time, but I didn't really meet
- [51:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
him and know who.
- [51:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
Who he was as a person till I was about 26 years old. I was already five years into the league. And when he came to Atlanta to live with me, he experienced anything you could, you know, especially a guy just getting out of prison, just coming from. Incarcerated, bro, he lived the best life he could possibly live. Go to.
- [51:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go to NBA.
- [51:50]
ISO Joe Johnson
Countless NBA games, countless all star games, man, that man had a ball, bro. But my high school years, I. I wish, you know, to some degree he could have. He could have seen some of that.
- [52:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That. That's what it's about for them to experience that. That's what it's about. I'm 29, and my grandmother used to always say, players change, but the game stays the same. As a kid, I didn't understand what I do now.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Hello.
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Uncle Joe
Hey. The game will always be a game.
- [52:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It is better.
- [52:22]
Uncle Joe
You better learn to play it, or we'll play you.
- [52:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you're right, fellas.
- [52:30]
ISO Joe Johnson
You're right.
- [52:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn, mocho. You and my basketball game, and you only want to play defense. What the f. I see why Cam Patterson is mad at you. Keep the beard going on bad. Cal Patterson out is mine. You playing that. That celebrity basketball game with him, right, Ocho?
- [52:51]
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Wait, which. Which one was this?
- [52:52]
ISO Joe Johnson
That one, I think it was.
- [52:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because he's a comedian. I think that one.
- [52:59]
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, this is dude you. This is dude you just interviewed?
- [53:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [53:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, he a campaigning man,
- [53:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe. Man, this man had me laughing so hard, man, this dude say, whatever. Whatever's on his mind, he say. I say, bro. Cause he tried to explain to me, like, a dating app. I said, bro, I ain't got no dating app. He's like, you ain't never been? I said, no. I said, the people I've met, I've kind of met organically. He like. I said, well, like, you build a profile. He's like, well, you just explained it. And people like, hey, how you. I said, bro, I understand how debit card work. I ain't never had one. People don't believe that. I don't have. I don't have PayPal and cash apps and all that stuff. And. And a debit card. Like, when I. When debit cards first came out, Joe, I don't know if you. They still did do this, but they used to charge you. They would charge you a fee, like A$2 to withdraw your money. I said, hold on. You won't charge me money. Charge me money to draw. Withdraw my money. I like.
- [54:03]
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, I want
- [54:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
no car. But no, he. He funny man, this dude here. Boy, I was laughing. He had me back from. From shooting this shot at Meg to his. His scene in the movie with Kevin Hart. I mean, he was just. He a funny dude.
- [54:24]
ISO Joe Johnson
He a character.
- [54:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boy, it's my 24th. It's my 24th birthday. I would love a shout out from the big three. Happy 24th, bro.
- [54:33]
Uncle Joe
Happy 24th, my boy.
- [54:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your lady got something special. You know you got something hello, but happy 24th birthday. I came across a video with Ocho on TV with, Can Ash play the clip? When Ocho took his phone from Unc and said, how you gonna tell me I ain't hall of fame worthy? Give me my phone, child, please.
- [54:57]
Uncle Joe
Oh, I remember that. Hey, remember Uncle, I was on there with you and W and Skip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, that was. That was fun. Hey, hey. Snatch my phone quick, man. Give me my goddamn phone, man.
- [55:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, it's simple. We know who Jalen Brunson was talking about. The same WNBA coach who said you need a 1A player to win a championship.
- [55:20]
ISO Joe Johnson
Guys.
- [55:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, so how many Jalen Brunson's have been able to do this? Y' all make it seem like it was so far out of the realm of possibility what she was saying. So in the 80 year history, you've had a guy six one or below win three championships as the lead dog. No, you had two because Steph is like six, three. But if you say six three or under, you've had three guys in 80 years. Steph Curry, Isaiah Thomas, Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson is probably the shortest of the three. She didn't say anything wrong, guys, right? Jayla is a phenomenal player. They did a great job of constructing a team around him. Look at what he had in order. Same thing with Isaiah. Joe Dumars could play defense. John Sally could play defense. Dennis Rodman can play defense. You go. Steph was built totally different. They got shooters, but they got had some guys. Draymond played defense. They had some guys that could play D a little. Mainly Draymond, Klay Thompson. But come on. Hey, y' all make it seem like she was just. She just arbitrarily pulled this out, right? She didn't. So three times in 80 years, Isaiah won. What, what was that? 89.90. Steph won 15, 17, 18. And then Brunson won in 26. Think about that. Jalen Brunson Is phenomenal. He is a phenomenal player. Kudos. But y' all make it seem like she just said, oh, she's like. Because we hadn't seen it. You'd only seen it twice prior to him doing it.
- [57:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
And I think Brunson needed that too. Yes, he needed that. He needed to carry that weight of the naysayers saying that he can't do this, he can't do that.
- [57:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [57:29]
ISO Joe Johnson
And he put belief in himself and went out there and done it.
- [57:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But let me ask you a question, Joe.
- [57:34]
ISO Joe Johnson
How many.
- [57:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How many teams you think gonna build their team around a 6 foot 1 or lower point guard?
- [57:43]
ISO Joe Johnson
It ain't gonna. It ain't gonna be many, bro.
- [57:46]
Uncle Joe
Hey. And I just. I just asked the question. Was night before last or what might have been yesterday. The fact that he was able to win one and he's only six one, you think that would change the opportunities? No, the point guards that are short
- [57:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
because you base it on history. That's three times in 80 years. So you. You look at a situation o. What, 26 years. Oh, excuse me. Every 20. Damn. Every 29. 29 years. That'll happen. Kudos to him though. You think the Knicks fans going crazy winning a championship. Imagine if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Well, we ain't got.
- [58:29]
ISO Joe Johnson
You can't act like that now. We ain't even start. But if the Cowboys win, you best believe it's gonna be a parade here on Nightcap. Damn it. You can believe that.
- [58:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause we ain't gonna do that, Joe. We ain't gonna do that.
- [58:43]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it ain't gonna be nothing y' all can do.
- [58:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We winning.
- [58:47]
ISO Joe Johnson
Ain't gonna be nothing you can do. Which I gonna cancel the show.
- [58:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't worry about it. I'm counting on Miles Garrett. I'm. I'm counting on the Seahawks. I'm just counting on a bunch of teams. The Bears, the Packers. I got faith in those.
- [59:00]
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay. It's gonna make it even sweeter. Oh, I can't wait.
- [59:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I forgot on the Eagles. I'm counting on that.
- [59:07]
Uncle Joe
The commander, please.
- [59:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We had people on the buildings like etc for the cast parade. Y' all better go. Look at the 2006 eruption. 1.2 million people. They had to delay the parade to barricade the streets. All love, guys. You ain't lying. I was there. It was crazy. I can just imagine what it was like because the Cavalier, the Cavaliers had never won a championship in basketball. At least in this can say, well, it's been 53 years, but that's not, that's not ever right. Man. It was, it was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy. I don't even know how you put, put a tally on what the Knicks, what the Knicks had, but congratulations to both. To the Knicks. Man, you guys played your ass off. Jalen Brunson, you were incredible. And whatever comes along with you being a champion, whatever long comes along with the Knicks being champions of the players is where it is well earned. You guys earned everything that you have coming your way. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. There's my partner and co host. He's in Seattle getting ready to watch the u. S Take on mex. Excuse me. Australia in the world cup tomorrow. Good luck. United States men's national team, go USA that's the liberty city legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the big three. He's a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Hit the and go. Subscribe to the nightcap podcast fee wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Because of you, nightcap has been the success that has become. Thank you again. Those look at it. Those looking to purchase a bottle of my shade by laportier, head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable, any state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it and compare it against other cognacs and you'll see for yourself. We have the best cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Tomorrow we have an early show. We are live. We're going immediately after the the United States men's national team take on Australia. So tomorrow's show. Okay, we're live at 5pm which would be what, 8pm Eastern time? So we're 5pm Pacific, 8pm Eastern.
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Uncle Joe
Okay. All right. Game a little early.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. So thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for watching. Tuning in tonight. We'll see you tomorrow, hopefully after u. S victory. I'm up. He's ocho. He's ISO.
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Uncle Joe
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