Best of Boxing News Part 1: HEATED DEBATE if Floyd Mayweather Jr. has GONE BROKE after UNRETIRING

Summary

Nightcap — Best of Boxing News Part 1: HEATED DEBATE if Floyd Mayweather Jr. Has GONE BROKE after UNRETIRING

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc/Joe") & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Uncle Ocho")
Podcast: Nightcap (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s shock decision to unretire after an eight-year hiatus from professional boxing, reigniting debate over his motivations: does the return signal financial trouble for Floyd, or is it just the competitive itch? Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson break down the possible matchups that matter—Canelo, Pacquiao, or Bud Crawford—debate Mayweather’s place in boxing history, and riff on athlete lifestyle, legacy, and big-money fights. The hosts also branch into what makes athletes blow or keep their fortunes, and bring their trademark humor to hypotheticals about their own returns to pro sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why is Floyd Mayweather Coming Back?

• Big News: Floyd is officially unretiring and plans a professional fight after his exhibition against Mike Tyson. He boasts, “No one will generate a bigger gate... than my events.” (03:12)
• Speculation Begins: Both hosts immediately question his motives, with Ocho implying financial trouble:

  “Why would you... at this age come out of retirement after not fighting since what, 2017?” (04:06 – Chad)

Three Fights That Matter for Floyd’s Return

• Ocho: Only three opponents make sense for a mega-payday—Canelo Alvarez, Manny Pacquiao (rematch), Terence “Bud” Crawford. (04:29-05:24)
• Sharpe: Skeptical about weight classes and Floyd’s ability to compete after an 8-year layoff. (07:16)

2. Mayweather’s ‘O’ and Legacy

• Sharpe emphasizes Mayweather’s undefeated record as his identity:

  “His claim to fame is that I can say something. All the fighters that you say are great... None of them can say that above me ... If the O is gone, where does he put his hat now?” (06:08 – Sharpe)

• Ocho is worried Floyd’s whole appeal could be tarnished with a single loss at this stage. (07:00)

3. Physical Risks & Age Factor

• Both agree Floyd is still "one of the best ever"—in his peak. There’s skepticism about his reflexes and ability:

  “He’s not going to be able to see those punches of them young kids throwing now.” (07:57 – Sharpe)

• Comparisons to older athletes attempting comebacks, likening Floyd’s situation to if Jordan tried to return at 50. (19:31)

4. Money Woes: FACT or RUMOR?

• The hosts directly address accusations Floyd is broke or in lawsuits over missing millions (Showtime lawsuit):

  “Just a few weeks ago... Floyd filed a lawsuit against Showtime... deprived him of roughly $340 million in earnings.” (12:21 – Sharpe) “Normally people that are well off don’t go back into a sport as barbaric as boxing at 48x... That’s not normal.” (13:00 – Sharpe)

• Both admit they don’t know Floyd’s finances but acknowledge multiple reports. (10:11, 13:22, 13:33)
• Ocho reiterates, “I don’t care why you’re coming back. I’m glad you’re coming back because I get to watch.” (16:27)

Athlete Finances: Spending vs. Saving

• Sharpe and Ocho discuss pitfalls of lavish spending post-retirement:

  “You work so hard... But at what point... I don’t like 50 cars. I like homes. I don’t need 10 homes.” (22:30 – Sharpe)

• Ocho boasts about “minimalist” lifestyle:

  “I was a cheap son of a... you know what, while I was playing... My name was bigger than anything I could purchase at the time.” (21:57 – Ocho)

5. Upcoming Fights and Exhibition Hype

• It’s confirmed: Mayweather vs. Pacquiao II in Vegas on Netflix, September 19, 2026.
  • “The first fight... 2015 generated a record-breaking 4.6 million US pay per view buys... Floyd has been retired for nine years...” (37:11 – Sharpe)
• Mayweather’s also taking on Greek kickboxer Mike Zambidis in Athens as a tune-up.

  “For one, I think that’s a tune up... before he gets to Manny Pacquiao.” (61:22 – Ocho)

Financial Stakes

• Ocho predicts, “He might clear $300 [million].” (42:04)
• Mayweather reportedly missing $340 million out of $1.2 billion earned. (15:24, 43:13)

6. Hypotheticals and Dream Fights

• The hosts argue favorite matchups and likelihoods:
  • Floyd vs. Bud Crawford—“He lose, you still got him as the greatest fighter?” “If he comes back, he’s not gonna lose.” (17:05–17:21)
  • Floyd vs. Ryan Garcia, Roy Jones, Gervonta Davis—weight and name-value issues. (45:49 on)
  • Ocho jokes about being Floyd’s tune-up opponent, “What you think about me and Floyd fighting?” (32:41)

7. Cultural, Social, and Financial Context

• Major commentary on athlete spending, jet-setting, and the lure of fame versus reality:

  “Everybody flying private... I appreciate Delta. I appreciate Spirit... I like to talk to people... Twenty and thirty grand just to fly by myself. ‘Cause I want convenience—man, please.” (29:59 – Ocho)

8. Legacy, Risks & Social Media

• Joke about why Instagram is full of “private jet” photos (24:07 on)
• Ocho gives a warning about boxing’s dangers—even non-pros:

  “These dudes will hurt you if they want to. Especially when you in their environment...” (54:25)

• Sharpe on getting hit live ringside:

  “When the guy head snapped, he already—like a snake—he already recoiled, and you just not seeing the man’s head snap back...” (55:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mayweather’s Return Motivation:

  “Whether you want to see it or not, the only three fights... the world wants to see: Canelo, Pacquiao or Bud, there is no one else.” (05:23 – Ocho)

• On the Value of Mayweather’s ‘O’:

  “If the O is gone, you look at him differently. He’s not the same.” (06:08 – Sharpe)

• On Losing Fortunes and Lifestyle:

  “You work so hard... But to own one, to actually say, okay, that’s mine—you talking about... up to half a billion.” (24:07 – Sharpe)

• On the Pacquiao Rematch:

  “Floyd vs. Pacquiao, September 19, Netflix. What is everybody going to tune in to see? Whether you... 48, 58, 68... is this the time where we finally get to see... an asterisk where he gets the loss?” (37:47; 38:18 – Ocho)

• On Exhibition vs. Danger:

  “He knows how to carry a fight, which I think he’s going to do for the young bull out there in... the Greek guy... He gonna carry him.” (63:53 – Ocho)

• On Mayweather’s Lawsuit:

  “Just a few weeks ago, Floyd filed a lawsuit... accusing [Showtime] of helping facilitate a fraud scheme that deprived him of roughly $340 million.” (12:21 – Sharpe)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic / Quote | |---------|------------------| | 04:06 | Why is Floyd unretiring? “Why would you... at this age come out of retirement...?" (Ocho) | | 05:23 | The three only lucrative fights left for Floyd: Canelo/Pacquiao/Bud (Ocho) | | 06:08 | The importance of the 'O'—Floyd’s undefeated record | | 12:21 | Mayweather’s $340M lawsuit against Showtime | | 19:31 | Comparing Floyd’s return to Jordan coming back at 50 | | 21:57 | Ocho on living “minimalist” as a pro athlete | | 37:11 | Announcing Mayweather vs Pacquiao II on Netflix, 9/19/26 | | 42:04 | “He might clear 300 [million].” (Ocho) | | 54:25 | The real risks of boxing—why non-pros get hurt | | 61:22 | Mayweather taking Greek fight as a tune-up (Ocho) | | 63:04 | Concerns over Floyd’s motivations and health (Sharpe) | | 70:11 | Both commit to attending the Vegas fight, debating outfits |

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Conclusion & Flow

The episode fuses sports analysis and lively banter, as Sharpe brings cautious realism and Ocho fan enthusiasm. Both manage the tension between respecting Mayweather’s legacy and critiquing the systemic financial and social factors that drive athletes back into harm’s way. The mix of boxing knowledge, personal anecdotes, and cultural commentary ensures the listener gets much more than box scores—they get the pulse of sports, spectacle, and the struggle behind legendary careers.

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Listen For:

• Deep insight on which fights actually generate money and why (05:23)
• The raw financial numbers and Mayweather’s lawsuit discussion (12:21, 15:24)
• Playful, real talk about why athletes lose or keep fortunes (21:57, 22:30)
• Lively debate on whether an aging legend should risk his perfect record (06:08, 17:05)
• Cultural takes on fame, Instagram “richness,” and pro sports reality (24:07, 29:59)
• The hosts’ affectionate ribbing and what makes Nightcap an addictive listen

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For those who missed it:
This is the definitive Floyd comeback debate, packed with numbers, boxing lore, and the real-life stakes of still chasing greatness.

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[Joe]

Hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. Well, how about this here. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Said he's unretiring and will resume his undefeated career after his planned exhibition against Mike Tyson. Lloyd from my upcoming Mike Tyson event to my next professional fight afterwards, no one will generate a bigger gate, have a larger global broadcast audience and generate more money with each event than my events. And I plan to keep doing it with my Global Media Partner, CSI Sports// Fight Sports Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I, I'm, I'm glad we own this one. I'm glad we own this.

[Joe]

Go ahead, take it away, Floyd.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Chat, stay with me. Real quick, y'. All. Y' all know how much I love boxing. My boxing enthusiast, I'm one that's been in the ring as well. I've trained with all the best fighters in the world. But in, in order for Floyd to come back, right, to be able to command the kind of money he wants, Obviously I'm not sure if he's in financial problems or not, but why would you, why would you at this age come out of retirement after not fighting since what, 2017 if I'm not mistaken.

[Joe]

Something about eight years.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, eight years outside of ex exhibitions, obviously, is to do what he's always said is, is have a bank Robbie with no mask on. So if that's what you're going to do. There are only three fights. Chat, listen to me. There are only three fights that Floyd can have that can command and get the kind of money he's looking to, to recoup for. For money that may have been lost and money that may have been stolen or money he may have spent, you know, to date. For one, a rematch with Canelo. That's one fight.

[Joe]

Camillo too big.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen to me. We talk about making that money you, he ain't gonna have no choice. Number two, fighting Pacquiao again, right? That's it.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And the only other fight that can get him the kind of money and the kind of payday he might need. If you're coming out of retirement and putting your record in jeopardy, and that's Bud, man.

[Joe]

Lord have mercy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, listen to what I'm saying. Whether you want to see it or not, the only three fights that are going to get him the kind of money he's coming out of retirement to get that the world wants to see. Canelo, Pacquiao or Bud, There is no one else for him to fight that people are going to pay money to see. Think about it. For one, for one, in order for him to come out of retirement, you have to put yourself in harm's way. You have to take a chance. You can't just be fighting anybody. They're not going to pay to see you just fight anybody. It has to be a draw it Canelo. You got to take a chance. You don't have a choice. He has to take a chance.

[Joe]

He does. Really? OO his claim to fame? Yes. And everything that he's ever done was for what? That O. Yeah. If the O is gone, you look at him differently. He's not the same. Ooh, yeah. He's not. His, his claim to fame is that I can say something. All the fighters that you say are great, right? None of them can say that above me. You talk about Sugar Ray, you talk about Hearns, you talk about Hagler, you talk about Roy Jones, you talk about who? Sugar Ray Robinson. You talk about Lewis and Ali, whomever. He always goes back to the O. If the O is gone, where does he put his hat now?

[Uncle Ocho]

I, I, I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, damn, that's, I, I don't know. I don't know. I'm talking about, I'm talking about paydays. I'm talking about paydays. You know, you're 50 and old.

[Joe]

His reflexes aren't the same. Oh, I know that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh? I, I, well, I, I mean, I mean, obviously, once you get older, Father time catches up with you at some point, but he, he still, he's still one of the best ever.

[Joe]

Yeah, he's still one of the best ever. When he was fighting. Not at 50, not in his 40s yes. In his 20s and 30s. Yes, yes, yes. I give you a prime example when Floyd fought Conor McGregor. A prime. Floyd gets Connor out inside of two rounds.

[Uncle Ocho]

But he, he didn't want to. That. It's all about. It's all about carrying him. He can't. He carried him through the fight just to give the people what they wanted. But go ahead.

[Joe]

But. Yeah, look at him, Ocho. He's not going to be able to see those punches of them young kids throwing now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, he's not.

[Joe]

That's why

[Uncle Ocho]

I just gave you the three. I just gave the three fights that

[Joe]

Ocho, he'll go and he'll go right back into retirement. I don't think Bud to take the fight. Bud don't want to hurt him. He got too much respect for him, but hurt him. Ocho, Bud is still at the top of. Bud is the pound for pound, best fighter in the world. And you talking about coming after eight year layoff, you can come and fight him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Do you understand why he's coming out of retirement? Are we missing the point here?

[Joe]

We understand.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Joe]

No, no, no, Ocho, I hope that's not true. I hope he. Oh, oh, I hope he has Ocho. I can hope. I hope he has an itch to scratch and he needs to scratch that itch. I'm hoping that's the case, Ocho. I'm hoping. I can hope. Let me hope. Ocho. I don't want. I don't want to be cynical. I don't, I don't. I don't want to be skeptical. I, I want to believe that the man has an itch that he wants to scratch and it only can be scratched getting back into the ring. I don't want to think that financially his situation is unstable. I don't, I don't. Oh, why are you looking at me like that, man?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I'm just listening. I hear you. I'm listening.

[Joe]

No, but I'm saying, why you looking at me like that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know. I'm just listening. I'm just, I'm just.

[Joe]

I hope. I mean, we can hope. Oh, Cat with. Oh, Lord have mercy. This man here, Lord Jesus. I don't know. I, I don't. I. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I, I just know he's coming out and maybe, maybe. I mean, look, I chat. This is not no breaking news. Y' all have heard all the reports and people have said Florida's broke and this. And I don't Know, I don't know Floyd like that. I don't, I don't know the man finances. And I'm not gonna get up here and say pretend like I do. I just hope. I can hope. Yeah, that. That's not the case.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, I, I'm. I mean, I'm. Listen, I'm excited. I'm excited as a, as a fan of Ford, as a fan of boxing. I look forward to him not fighting exhibition, but having the fight and actually train the way he's always trained. That has him 50 0. That has me excited. Is he gonna look like the foil we used to seeing when he fought earlier in his, in his career? When, you know, when he's been in the 20s, when he's in his 30s, probably not.

[Joe]

But no reflexes are floor.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, even, even, even if his reflexes are a little slower, it gives me a certain excitement. Gives me a certain excitement to know Floyd is coming back to that ring, going back into the ring, and he's going to take a fight very seriously. He's going to change, train very seriously. It. It just makes me excited. And I, I just threw out the three names. To me, despite the side, despite whoever's in their prime, despite whoever's younger. To me, to come back at this point, you know, at 48 or 47, whatever it is, and you're 50, you know, the biggest fights that can generate the most money for someone whose nickname money may were the three names. Whether people say, oh, that's dumb, or you're not making no sense, it makes the most sense from a financial standpoint and drawing in that kind of revenue. And that was Canelo. Whether he's big or not, that was Bud, whether he's the best in the world right now or not. And that was Manny Pacquiao. That's all I'm saying. Whether you think it's dumb or not, I'm thinking from, I'm thinking from this aspect.

[Joe]

Okay, let me ask you a question. First of all, Canelo can't get killed. Ello ain't going under 168. Bud ain't going under 160. So what? So Floyd. You gonna have Floyd come up to 160?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, I'm, I'm, I'm not.

[Joe]

He's only fought one time at 154. He flew De La Hoya at 54.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm not talking about weight classes. I said what makes the most sense. Now what they decide to do is on them. I'm talking about from a financial standpoint. If you're having to come back at this point in your career after eight year layoff, we talk about. Okay, I need a big payday. That's all I'm talking about.

[Joe]

Well, fight Shakur. Shakur right at 4:47. Fight Keyshawn Davis.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, come on, Unc, man, you can't fight the young bull. You can't fight the young bulls.

[Joe]

You wanna fight? You want him to fight Bud? He come out better. He gonna come out better against empty than Bud. At least you like. Well, damn, he got a. He got a hillbilly heartbeat. Chance he not. He not effing with Buddy. Just a few weeks ago, Just a few weeks ago, Floyd filed a lawsuit against Showtime Networks and the former president of Showtime Sports, accusing the company of helping facilitate a fraud scheme that deprived him of roughly 340 million in earnings.

[Uncle Ocho]

God damn. 340.

[Joe]

That's. That's what the lawsuit said. I don't know, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

Time out, time out, time out, time out. Let me. Give me a paper towel. Because just 3,340 million. Hold on, hold on. Because now you got me sweating. Let me, let me. Not now. You see what. You know what I'm. I'm.

[Joe]

Ocho, I'm just saying I don't know why this man coming back. I'm not fit to profess that. I know, but I've heard what the chat has heard and see all the reports where people say that he's in a financial bind. I don't know that to be true. He has. He has reports that he has sold his. Some properties. May I think he had a property in la. He had a property in Miami. He has a big. Has a big residency out here in Vegas. He has the private plane. So. I don't know. I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I don't know. Normally people that are well off don't go back into a sport as barbaric as boxing at 48x, y and z. That's not normal. But everything doesn't have to make sense to me. It just has to make sense to him. And obviously it makes sense.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I know, I know a lot of people, they. They probably gonna laugh. They're gonna, you know, talk about weight, you know. Oh, they can't fight these individuals because how good they are right now. And Floyd, even though he's a little. He might be a little slower, his timing not be the same as it once was. But I'm hypothetically speaking, if he's coming back.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

In need of huge, huge Payouts for fights. I just threw out the three names that would make the most sense, that would generate the most money to maximize his time coming out of retirement at 48. In. In putting a chance and in losing, you know, that zero in that 50, no record. I mean, it, it, it. He'd make. It'd be massive. It'd be massive. And I know Turkey Ali, if he gets involved in that, it is. It, it can be. It can, it can get. It can get ugly. Ugly in a good way. It can get ugly in a good way. From a financial standpoint,

[Joe]

Mayweather says that he suffered from enormous financial harm and is missing at least 340 million from a reported 1.2 billion that he actually earned in his professional fight career.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, my goodness. 343. Who I got, who I got the swing on?

[Joe]

I mean. Oh, he's. That's in addition. So he's report. He's reporting that they, they boosted. However they did it.340, but he earned 1.2, so that's 1.5.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Florida's lived in Vegas. So those career earnings, I mean, Uncle Sam only taken 37% because he ain't playing no state taxes. Oh, man, I just.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I like it. I like it. I Listen, I. Listen, I, I don't, I don't. I don't care what the reason is why you're coming back. I'm glad you're coming back because I get to watch. Listen, I get to watch you fight again.

[Joe]

I don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

I get to. I get to watch the greatest boxer of all time fight again, even at 48 years old. And he had to take it ser. Because his record is at stake. So I know, I know one, one thing we know about Floyd, one thing we know about him, hardest worker in the sport and he ain't taking no shortcuts and he ain't cutting no corners. So you know what you're gonna get once he stepping that ring.

[Joe]

He lose, you still got him as the greatest fighter.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come again? I ain't hear you.

[Joe]

If he loses, when he comes back, or do you still have him as the greatest fighter?

[Uncle Ocho]

Can I tell you something?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

If he comes back, he's not gonna lose.

[Joe]

Well, he gonna have to fight. You said he can't fight anybody outside of the people that you dismantle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, the people I name, I said I'm being able to maximize your purse outside those names that I did name, maximizing your purse would be taking those fights regardless of weight and all that stuff. I'm not sure. How? I'm just, I'm just, I'm speaking from a financial standpoint, that's all.

[Joe]

That's all you think, you think right now, give him six months, a year, he could beat Bud Crawford in a 12 round fight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who you at? Are you asking how? You asking me? We, they ain't fight yet.

[Joe]

Do you believe you're gonna have to pick a side just like the Super bowl, you like? Okay, I'm taking Seattle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Seahawks.

[Joe]

Yeah, you took Seattle even though they hadn't played. So I'm asking you, Floyd and Bud fight. You taking Floyd or you taking Buddha?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, that's, that's ugly. Huh? That's ugly right there.

[Joe]

What you mean it's ugly?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm just saying, just the, the question, the question at hand, because you, you. Oh, that's a good one too. Huh? Who you got?

[Joe]

You,

[Uncle Ocho]

huh? Who you got? Hey, Chad, who y' all got, hypothetically?

[Joe]

Everybody got bud.

[Uncle Ocho]

You got, you got bud.

[Joe]

Yeah, Floyd reflexes. Ocho. The man about to be 50. 50.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

How old is, how old is Floyd?

[Uncle Ocho]

48. We the same. I mean, he 48. I'm 10 years older. So. Yeah, he, yeah, I was born in 68. Floyd. Floyd was born in. Yeah. Hey. Hey. What? Hey. Oh, I'm excited.

[Joe]

What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Uncle. I'm ready to get back in that thing. Hey, who you want me fight?

[Joe]

I, I don't, I don't, I don't want to. I, I, I hate it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wait, wait, wait. You hate which part? Wait a minute.

[Joe]

I hate the Floyd having to come back.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I don't, I don't hate it. I want, I want to see him go. I want to see him go. I want to see him go. Hey, I want to see him go. I want to see him go. Hey, I'm ready.

[Joe]

That would, that would be, that would be the equivalent, that would be the equivalent that 10 years after, 10 years after Michael Jordan retired, he came back and tried to play basketball again at 50.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. I like that.

[Joe]

No, you make all, you make all that money, man. You make all that money, you're supposed to be able to sit generations, like, at least, at least, at bare minimum, four to five generations up and then.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, you're setting yourself up a generation of wealth when you live a, a minimalistic lifestyle.

[Joe]

Now, well, you can look. Oh, come on now, come on. We don't have to get into it. We know Floyd was a little extravagant. A little. He was a little extravagant.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. Hey.

[Joe]

Hello. Yeah. You know what the thing is? Is that what you have to realize.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Is that when you're making 200 million, it ain't nothing to spend 15, 20 million.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shouldn't me.

[Joe]

But when you. But Ocho, when you retire, right. You still live that. Oh, so I can go. I can go get me a car every other year. I can go get me a Ferrari or I can get a Lambo. When I'm making 20, 30 million and the money coming in. Okay. The money stops. Yeah. And I still try to have that same lifestyle. See, that's the problem that you run into.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Is that you try to keep the same lifestyle that you have in retirement that you have when you was at your maximum earning potential.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's impossible. And I understood that while I was playing. We know it's impossible, but sometimes people don't understand actually when. If you can. If you can train yourself, if you can discipline yourself and find a structured format to be able to live a minimalistic lifestyle while you're still earning, you know, at your highest potential.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

It makes the transition once you retire that much easy.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why you think I've been. I mean, I hate using me as an example, but I'm the only person I can use as example because I'm living proof of doing it. And not only did I do it, I talk it, I preach it. And people still make fun of me to this day and still don't get it. Why I'm still well off the. When I was playing. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Joe]

Yeah, My bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because I was a cheap son of a. You know what? While I was playing. Yes. That jury was unreal. Noting watches weren't real. For what. It didn't make any sense. My name was bigger than anything I could purchase at the time. I was playing football. I haven't played football in 15, what, 12. I don't know how long it's been. And I'm still good. Nobody gets the formula. Nobody gets what I was doing there was the method to my madness. So I wouldn't be a statistic. That's all. I didn't want to be a statistic.

[Joe]

I don't have any problem enjoying because a part of it is that you work so hard and not to really enjoy to buy yourself a car or to buy yourself a watch and buy yourself a nice home or do some. Occasionally some stuff for your family. But, Ocho, at what point in time. I like cards. I don't like 50 cars. I like homes. I don't need 10 homes. I don't. I will have a. You know, maybe I would fly private once or twice a year.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

But to have a private jet, right? And to have that staff, because even when they're not flying, they still getting paid. It's just like a yacht. It's just like a yacht, Ocho, that takes a staff, it takes a crew. So even when that yacht's not on the water, they still getting paid.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, that, hey, like owning a jet and, and owning a yacht, that's for, correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't that for CEOs?

[Joe]

Yeah, a lot of CEOs. Because the company owners. Yeah, well, yeah, if, if, yeah, if you work 15, 20 billion. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah, yeah. See, it makes sense for them to have it, but for us regular folk, I never understood, you know, sometimes my timeshares in it. Yeah.

[Joe]

You know what? I'm gonna spend a, I'm gonna spend a million dollars. A million dollars. Probably get it, probably get me, you know, It'll get me 50 hours. But Ocho, I'm not flying overseas on no private jet. Cuz how far are you going? If it takes you 18 hours to get there and 18 hours to get back and you bought 50 hours, that's 36 hours there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, can I, can I ask you a question? I'm. I'm curious. Why does, why do people love on Instagrams? Why do they love showing them themselves going and getting on private jets and, and everybody a. Getting on jet setting? Well, I don't understand what was, what was.

[Joe]

Look, and I, and I get why people fly private because of the convenience of it. The jet leaves when you want to leave. You're not on the schedule of Delta American and a lot of times, Ocho, and I'm just talking about high value people. I'm not. And that's what I'm talking about, Ocho. So you look at it and so that's, that's the convenience. You ain't got to worry about the airport. You pull up to the hangar, you get your car, you get on and you, you, you, you hop right on, you got the staff, you, whatever the case may be, whatever you want, they have it there, you get there, boom, Drop you off, you get in the car, you go wherever you go. So I, I get it, I get it. As someone that has flown private, I get why the, the convenience of it. But to, but to own one, to actually say, okay, that's mine. And you talking about, you know, I mean, probably you can get a cheap one for probably around, probably 5 million. And they go up to half a billion.

[Uncle Ocho]

Get a cheap what A jet. Can I ask you? Yeah. Who make, who making, who's making that kind of money right? Where they can stand and say, you know What? He go 5 million for a jet. Outside of NBA, outside of owner. Owners that own NFL teams, you know, MLB teams.

[Joe]

Well, I guarantee you paid. I guarantee you Tom Brady ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. I guarantee you Peyton Manning ain't been on the commercial flight in 20 years.

[Uncle Ocho]

They don't, they don't own one. There's a difference.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. You lease it or they buy time shares in it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cool.

[Joe]

No problem.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I got a question.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, when you say timeshare. Now this is all new to me and I'm glad I could be on here for this segment where I can learn something.

[Joe]

You buy hours, you buy 50, you buy 100 hours.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, that's, that's, that's too high. You're going too high.

[Joe]

Now, it all depends on how much you're going to use it. Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just want one flight. One flight, me and the kids to the Bahamas. Two hour trip.

[Joe]

How much is that it's gonna take you? It all depends on how big a plane you get.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, it's gonna probably.

[Joe]

It's gonna be somewhere between. It could be anywhere between 25 and 5. All the way up to 20,000 an hour.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you said 25.

[Joe]

Like 25, 2500 dollars. It all depends on the size of the plane.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay?

[Joe]

You want something that's safe. You don't want no crop duster with you and all your kids on it. So you're gonna want something safe. You're probably not going to be able to get it for less than probably, say five to 7,000. Seven. 500 an hour.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's one way or two way?

[Joe]

That's one way.

[Uncle Ocho]

So how are you gonna get back?

[Joe]

Well, you said you just wanted for an hour. How long is gonna take you from Miami to The Bahamas?

[Uncle Ocho]

About 40 minute flight.

[Joe]

Okay, so it could probably cost you. Probably cost you somewhere between 10 and $20,000.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Lord, No, sir.

[Joe]

So, and now think about taking a private jet overseas. Take it to Dubai, take it into Africa, take it to Europe. Oh, no, you're talking about 10 hours. And you're talking about 10 hours of the jet that's costing you $50,000 an hour or two. Excuse me, 25. Look at what, what a G6 costs. A Gulf Stream 6.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on an hour?

[Joe]

Yes. Look up. Look up what? The price of a G. A G650, because that's. I think they got a G650, maybe even a G7 right now. Let me Google, see what that is for. For

[Uncle Ocho]

G.

[Joe]

G. What did it cost an hour just to. Just to rent it? An hour?

[Uncle Ocho]

Private jet. 10 to 20 per hour.

[Joe]

10 to 20,000 per hour.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Shoot. Well, hey.

[Joe]

Hey. So you're going overseas. Can you go overseas? I mean, I'm trying to figure out where can you fly for less than a hundred thousand. Even if you go from New York to London, that's what, eight hours, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

And that's what, 20,000 an hour? Yes. That's almost. Oh, no. But y' all can have that, boy. Listen, I. I appreciate American. I appreciate Delta. I appreciate Spirit, you know, But I. I can't see myself doing it unless. Unless God blessed me in some.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's crazy. I would never own one, Rachel. I would. I would rent it. But here's the thing. Ain't nobody. None of my family is in the same. So I would have to have the jet fly. Fly to go pick up my sister, try to go pick up my mom. Fly to go. It'll come out. Better just fly everybody just. Where you from?

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

Just me. It's just easier to do it that way. And if I'm going overseas, I can fly Emirates. I can play fly Qatar Air.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Bingo.

[Joe]

I can fly one of those ocho and pay 20, 000 and got a shower. I got a big old bed. I got a couch, got a big screen tv. They bring you caviar, champagne, crab claw, even I can't eat any of that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

But I'm saying. So I can fly on Emirates, a Qatar air or some of those big, you know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And get the same luxury.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Nah, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. You know, all them people on Instagrams be stunned. They be, you know, on the private

[Joe]

stuff, I had to reassess myself, Ocho. I was like. But damn, what type of life they living?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, something ain't right on. I'm talking about every. Everybody flying private. Everybody. I don't know what they doing, but, you know, it's cool. I mean, listen, you get where you got to get to. I'm get where I got to get to. I'm gonna get from point A to point B on Spirit. I'm good. You saw. You see, I went to Raleigh, right? You saw what I was on, right? I was. I was on spirit I went 20 minute flight, comfortable. They gave me some peanuts. I had my little coke with no ice. I ain't got, man. Got nobody impressed, man. Child, please. Twenty and thirty grand just to fly by myself. Cuz I want convenience, man, please. I like to talk to people. I like to talk. So whoever sit next to me, we f to talk.

[Joe]

Yeah, but I hate it. I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm excited about Floyd coming back, because I'm not. And I wish I, I, I, I. And hopefully if, if, if they shorted him his money, he gets his money back. But I hate that at 40 years old, you haven't had to do anything. Oh, I mean, just imagine, Ocho, if you had to try to go back and play football right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, I get a boy that work.

[Joe]

Hey, everybody.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, call it, Call it.

[Joe]

No, no. Time out, Time out, time out. Come on, son. Come on. Come here. Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Are you taking me out the game?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we taking you out the game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. I'm telling you. What. Hey, at 48 right now, shoot. If Floyd come out of retirement, I'm coming out of retirement, too. Hey, Mike Brown, Katie, Troy Blackburn, holla at your boy. Duke Tobin, Zach Taylor. Just picture this. Me, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. Chase Brown. Huh? I can't wait. I can't wait to hear him call my name coming out the tunnel. Starting man.

[Joe]

Lord have mercy.

[Uncle Ocho]

At wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals, Chad Johnson did not come out. Unc. And the smoke be going and. And the fan be chanting my name. Oh, Joe, oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. And oh, but don't let me score in 2026. Don't let me score no touchdown in 2026, boy. Oh, my God. But they're gonna suspend me for the week.

[Joe]

I hope Floyd makes enough money against this Tyson thing that he won't have to do it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, how about, hey, what you think about me and Floyd fighting? Like a little exhibition? Like to give him a little tune up before he fight for real?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you think about that?

[Joe]

I'm all for it.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I could wear my nightcap gear and all that. My nightcap trunks, you know?

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

Absolutely, it's hope season.

[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

What's the vibe of that? When it's like your star player is

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

think it's like definitely happening in the wnba.

[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

You must have heard us. After 11 years, Netflix will present Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao Part 2 in Vegas, September 19, 2026. The first flight between the duo in 2015 generated a record breaking 4.6 million US pay per view buys and a live gate money with ticket sales was a staggering $72 million. Floyd has been retired for nine years while Manny just fought several months ago against Mario Barrios. I told you he thought he won the fight. Oh, I told you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you.

[Joe]

My only thing is Ocho. Floyd has been able to hang his hat on that zero if the zero is gone. And a lot of people, because here's the thing, you can only fool the people for so long. Yeah, he loses. Well, we already saw him lost because I think a lot of people, yeah, he was a phenomenal fighter. I didn't tune in to watch him lose. I tuned in to watch him beat somebody ass. Right? But a lot of people did tune in, Ocho, because they wanted to see. I saw him lose, absolutely.

[Uncle Ocho]

And, and that's. That's the great thing. That's the great thing about Mayweather during his career is building yourself up as the villain and being able to command such enormous paydays because the people, the majority of the people tuning in are tuning in to Hope you fail. And they hope 50 times, and all 50 times, you debunked them, right? In their hopes, in their wishes. So, again, now far removed outside of your prime, you're fighting Manny Pacquiao again. What is everybody going to tune in to see whether you. 48, 58, 68. Finally, is this the time where we finally get to see the pound for pound, one of the greatest of all time? Do we finally get to see that asterisk where he gets the loss? Finally, everybody.

[Joe]

Is that the sphere?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, that's gonna be. Oh, that's gonna be nice.

[Joe]

Have you ever been to the Spirit? Have you been there yet, Ocho?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no, I. I walked on the outside, though. That was enough for me.

[Joe]

It's crazy. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you. You went to the. The MMA fight?

[Joe]

Yeah, I went to the UFC fight there. Hey, well, what's up, man? We're gonna go to the fight. We can make it happen. Okay. What's up?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's in September. I'm ready. You ain't gotta ask me twice. I lay my out. I get my outfit together now,

[Joe]

man. I like that, man. I would like to put 5,900. 5,900 down towards something you don't get. Put it on layaway, Joe. Hey, listen, I. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

I don't really know how I feel about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Talk to me, Talk to me, Joe.

[Joe]

I'm. I'm a huge fan of Floyd and Pacquiao. I don't think Floyd gonna get in that ring unless he. He can be somewhat Uncle Ocho of what he's been, but, you know, when you ain't boxing a while, man, that ain't. This ain't. You know, everything is repetition, reps, like, it's. It's different, man. It's different.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, what's up? Hey, Joe and Uncle, I think we have to realize, we have to understand, and for those in the chat that are watching now, we know we talk about a Floyd Mayweather retiring, but we have to understand this is the same Floyd Mayweather that stays active even when he's not fighting. He's always in the gym. He's still. Always training. So even if Floyd Mayweather of old is still a shell of himself, even at 40 years old, a shell of himself, Floyd Medweather is still better than most based on who he once was. Based on who he once was. Even if he's not the Floyd Meadow in his prime. And that's okay. Even if his spidey senses aren't the same as they used to be. He can still do one thing. He can still box, he can still fight. He can still protect himself. He still has defense. He, he might be a, a, a, a, a millisecond slower, but still.

[Joe]

But you talk to me. A millisecond slower.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, but also you're fighting someone that just, is that, just as experienced, that just, that had just as much wear and tear as you do, too.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So this ain't, I think it kind of evens out.

[Joe]

This ain't like no exhibition. It's a real fight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, no, that's a real deal, baby. It's the real deal.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

Real deal.

[Joe]

But the thing is, the Ocho, okay, he fights Pacquiao.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Then who he fight with next? I mean, I mean, Floyd go Eagle way. I don't know. I mean, man, I mean, I'm sure Manny can make 147. Hell, man, walk around probably 137.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I wonder how much. No, Floyd, Florida. Floyd walk around. Weight is 150, so it ain't nothing for him to drop three five. Three pounds? Yep. What y' all think the payday gonna be? Well, you see what they paid Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. They played Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua.

[Uncle Ocho]

He might, he might clear 300.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he might clear 300. And you know, you know, you know who else is a good one, too?

[Joe]

Who is that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I, I, I don't, I don't know where he goes from, from, from after that fight. I, I would make one more. I just don't know what it would be. Obviously you said you didn't like the names that I thr. For, for, for obvious reasons, because of, you know, the weight and, and, and one being at the, the, the, the pinnacle in the top, you know, in his career and just defeating the Canelo. But I'm talking about being able to grab the most and maximizing these last two shots in the ring. I, I, I'm just saying.

[Joe]

Oh, you talking about you want Floyd to fight Bud, man, come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Hey, Joe, I said it the other night and everybody laughed at me. I said three names. Now all of a sudden, two days later, one of the names is the ones he's fighting. Because I'm understanding the only way to maximize as much if you're having financial problems, you know, and being able to recoup what you're suing for. Hell, he's suing al Heyman for 30, 40, and whatever company it might be. I don't know.

[Joe]

Showtime. 340.

[Uncle Ocho]

340. Hell, he gonna clear that 300 right now against Pacquiao. So if you. If you want to go again and be able to get another cash, grab Canelo rematch. I'm. I'm just saying, even if there's a weight discrepancy, I mean, what do we do in that situation?

[Joe]

I'm.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm just. I'm just throwing it out there.

[Joe]

Me personally, Ocho, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think Canelo is interested in dropping away. Floyd can't come, man. Ain't no way in hell. Floyd ain't never weighed no 160. He only fought one fight. He fought De la Foyer at 154, and he was under that weight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I. I. Listen, I'm. I'm just. I know. I understand. I understand what you mean. I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying, you know, based on the circumstance and situations that I'm assuming he may be in. That's all. That's all.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I. I hope it's not true.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got a question, too.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, now, we talk about a fight in September at the Spear, right? Now, this. This is good. This is nice. Now, I understand this is a professional fight. What y' all think about your boy being on undercard?

[Joe]

A sphere is a round shape.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I said. The spear.

[Joe]

No, spear is what you throw.

[Uncle Ocho]

I said the spear. Yeah, it's spelled S P H E R E A R E. Yeah, that's what I said. I said spear. No, see. Oh, you know, I talk country now, so it's hard for you to understand. Hey, but listen, who you think about fighting, huh?

[Joe]

Who you think about fighting on the undercard?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know. Hey, Joey, got to be somebody with a. With a. With a boxing back. I'm not talking about no, no celebs or nothing like that. Like, I need to get in there and go, Joe, what you think, Joe?

[Joe]

Just depending on who you fighting, Ojo, I don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't like that answer, Joe. I need. I need a little more confidence from you, Joe.

[Joe]

Okay, what about. I tell you what. What about. What about Florida? Roy Jones?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, that's not gonna. That's not. That's not. Not gonna generate what he's trying to do. It's not going to generate the, the revenue he's trying to. He got you. Listen, you remember when I talked about. When I say those Three names. I said it's gonna have to be someone where he gonna have to take a chance. You got to take a chance because you need people to be tuned in to see, all right, he has a chance. He can lose.

[Joe]

You think? Oh, you think he ain't got no chance to lose against Roy, huh? Nah, I don't. You know what?

[Uncle Ocho]

They kind of.

[Joe]

They kind of been having a little back and forth, ain't they? That's what. That's why. That's why I threw it out there. Okay, Yeah, I see where you're going with this. I see where you're going with this. You could box. I tell you what, Ocho, what about you? Box Emanuel Acho.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, I said a real fighter. Hey, hey. Nah, nah, nah. I can't. Nah, nah.

[Joe]

Oo you been training like that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't stopped yet. I ain't stopped yet, Joe.

[Joe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Unc be laughing. He know I. I train every day. I do my soccer. I do my soccer in the mornings, and I do boxing in the evening.

[Joe]

And then when you do your Zumba. Cause you a Zumba instructor when you do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's on Wednesdays and Friday, Joe.

[Joe]

Oh, okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, on South Beach. Anytime you down here, Miami, you can come check my class out.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, right. I do it right on Nikki Beach.

[Joe]

But you brainstorming over there, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

What you think about, huh?

[Joe]

What about Floyd and Ryan Garcia?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh,

[Joe]

you like that one? I think he'll probably. I think Florida take that. He'll take that in a heartbeat, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, if. If you.

[Joe]

If you make and make. And make 147, easy. I. I'm not worried about it making. I'm not worried about him making weight at Florida. He never had no weight.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, that's not the problem. That's not the problem at all.

[Joe]

Damn. Who you. I mean, he. Obviously, he can't fight. He can't fight Shakur. He can't fight. You know, he can't fight somebody like that. No, I don't think you can fight, but I don't think you fight Bud. Me neither. Because Bud, you know, I heard Bud on the pod, you know, it's like, well, who you want me to fight? Who's out there for me to fight now? I'm sure Turkey say, look at Bud. We're gonna put this thing together, you and Floyd, but like, oh, how much a Honda? Okay, what about. What about. What about if he fought Boots? I'm talking about. I ain't talking about Floyd. I'm talking about Bud. Yeah. It ain't gonna money that fight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you're not gonna take. He's not gonna take the chance.

[Joe]

Boots ain't a big enough name. See, in order, in order for you to generate a fight, you got to get casuals to watch it. The hardcore people like Ocho gonna watch it. Ocho go watch. Go watch two kangaroos fight. Cause he like fighting. So you discount, you discount Ocho. Ocho. You know, look, I think I, I think I. I think Ryan Garcia and Floyd makes sense. I. I don't think there's no chance in hell that Connor could ever get back down to 150, 155.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're too big right now.

[Joe]

Yeah. God. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He be huge. I mean, knowing him, I mean, with his training background and, you know, background, I'm assuming he could. If, if the, if the potential of a Conor McGregor, Floyd too would have happened. He could probably get down. He just has to lose all that damn muscle.

[Joe]

Nah, it's hard. And, and man, when you lose muscle, man. You remember what happened with Roy? Roy was never the same. Oh yeah. When he went up to. When he went up fight Ruiz. He beat Ruiz at 193. He had to drop all that weight. He cut all muscle. He was never the same. He'll tell you he was never the same after he beat Ro. Beat Ruiz.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

But I definitely think that's a fight we should. We should, we should probably be in attendance for.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Yeah.

[Joe]

I went to. I went to.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. We going to the fight.

[Joe]

What? I went to the one way fault Ricky had. Floyd fought Ricky Haddon.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah, boy. And he hit him into that turnbuckle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that one number the check hook Joe. And he timed it per. The beautiful check hook. Timed it perfectly too. Excuse me. Take that with you.

[Joe]

Walked it right into it. I've been to a few, man. They talk about Tank and Floyd. Floyd, Tank got to get some issues resolved first. I mean, I mean, Tank, Tank might be on the shelf for a minute. He got to get some issues resolved, get everything behind him and then, you know, he can think about fighting right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

He.

[Joe]

He might be fighting for his freedom. Right? Yeah, right. I agree. So he need. He need to get those issues resolved. He gets those issues resolved. He's plenty young enough because he's exciting fighter. You know, he got dynamite in his hands. He can end the fight. He can turn it. He can turn. You know, he can make you short circuit. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Quick.

[Joe]

Cut your lights out quick.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, but, but I, I think that make the most sense to me. Floyd. Next two fights. Do handle, Handle. Do handle your business against Pacquiao and find a way to get the ball rolling. McGregor too.

[Joe]

Well, then how many fights? How many fights y' all think he gonna. What if he just want to do this?

[Uncle Ocho]

I would. I would say. I would say. I would say do three. I do three max. I'm not. I'm not talking about. I'm. Find a way to get to 53. Zero. Find a way to get to 53 and zero. Maximize the next three years. Maybe two. Yeah, maybe three. Maybe two. Maybe two. Them three fights.

[Joe]

I'm not who.

[Uncle Ocho]

Sure the third person would be. But the third person I fight would be the biggest chance I'd have to take where there's a huge chance I could lose.

[Joe]

Well, it's gonna happen if you fight Bud. It's gonna happen. Leave Bud alone.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I'm just. Hey, get. Get a world. Hey, get it. Get the people they want to see.

[Joe]

It'll be a big payday. One in Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

It'd be bigger than the Pacquiao one and it'd be bigger than the next McGregor one, that third one.

[Joe]

And then. And then what you call them, I mean, because, look, it's hard to overlap errors, but when you got a guy that's a three division unit undisputed champ in the full BET era, and that's what. And that's what. And that's what he. That's what Bud is. Yeah. He had three division undisputed in the four belt era.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen to me, I'm telling you, Joe, based on the circumstance and the situation that we are assuming, based on reports that Floyd might be in, he can get the most, almost topping what he's already made when he was fighting in his prime in a short amount of time, Pacquiao, Mayweather and going a goddamn limb with Bud, I'm. I'm just saying.

[Joe]

Well, he can only fight one time. He can only fight once this year because he's not fighting till September.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right, right.

[Joe]

It's out of the question. He only won't fight in 26.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right. I'm not, I'm not saying to double it up back to back. I'm just saying those three in a. In a, In a. In a matter of time that you see, you know, you see suitable.

[Joe]

I think you gotta.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta understand. Floyd don't take much punishment either. You don't take much punishment.

[Joe]

So I think it's gonna take much punishment. Yeah. I don't know if he gonna take those reflexes. Slow down. So it's Gonna be interesting to see, but I'm gonna be there to see it. We'll be there to see it, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I'm fighting. Don't forget that, huh? Hey, hey, Joe.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's gonna be good, man. I'm telling. I'm representing Nightcap to the fullest, right? Hey, Joe, I don't play. I know. I do a lot of talkers, though. But, you know, in that ring, boy, I'm nice boy. I've been training the past six years now.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Uncle Ocho]

I talk a good one, but so did these hand talk one, too.

[Joe]

I'm gonna follow you, Lee. On this one. I'll follow you.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's. That's all I ask for you, Joe.

[Joe]

That's got you. I'mma back you up, bro. I wonder who gonna be on the undercard, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just told you, huh? I'mma call. I'mma call Leonard. I'm call.

[Joe]

We g. We're gonna have to hit Broner or something. Maybe you fight Adrian Broner.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, that. Oh, that's a good one.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's a good. Hey, baby.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, now that's. That's an exciting. That's exciting.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe, you laughing, man, I ain't gonna lie. I was getting cooked out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, that'd be a good one, though.

[Joe]

Yeah. Ocho, you get out there with Broner, boy. You telling.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, not me, man. Hell no.

[Joe]

What you mean? I thought you said you wanted to fight a boxer, man. Come on, man, not that boxer. No, Broner too small, man. Oh, he too small for you?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Broner kill me, man, if he wanted to.

[Joe]

For real.

[Uncle Ocho]

That Joe, that's a real boxer. What? Nah, man. Joe, don't. Don't give me nobody that experienced, Joe. Hey, hey, all jokes aside, you know, a lot of people make jokes and, you know, they laugh and when boxers get knocked out and. And you know, they. And they fighting and do you do. I don't want to do People understand that these dudes will hurt you if they want to? Especially when you in their environment, when you're not used to punches coming and

[Joe]

you never see it at all.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's different.

[Joe]

Yeah. I don't know how many people in the chat has actually been to a fight and been close enough. I mean, when the guy head snapped. When the guy head snapped, he already. Like a snake. He already recalled. And you just not seen the man head snap back. He didn't like Ralph's thinking, like, oh, he rapped back. He done bit you, man. They put them punches together so quick. You know, man, that's how you get knocked out. Cause you don't see it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you don't.

[Joe]

And them three minutes be long as. I don't know what.

[Uncle Ocho]

Long as hell.

[Joe]

But we now know Floyd has a. A fight on the calendar, and it's going to be September 19th of this year. He's taking on Manny Pacquiao on Netflix. Netflix, y' all know what we do. There we go. There we go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Netflix. Make sure you have your boy on there.

[Joe]

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[Joe]

Ocho Floyd Mayweather Jr. Is now SC scheduled to take on Greek kickboxer Mike Zambidas in another exhibition in June in Athens, Greece. Zambidas is an 18 time world champion and retired with a record of 154 and 24. He has taken. He hasn't taken part in an official fight since June of 2015. Yeah, talk to me Are you, are you concerned that Floyd is potentially risking long term help just to make a quick payday schedule? Three fights in one year. The last time before you go Ocho, the last time, if I'm not mistaken, that he fought three times in one year was 2005 and he was 28 years of age.

[Uncle Ocho]

I say no, no, I'm not worried about it, Joe. I understand. Obviously your spidey senses some things are gone. You're not the same as you was, especially back in 2005, the last time you fought, you know, three times. But obviously you have to look at the opponents that he's picking. He's picking opponents that he know he's going to be able to win. He's picking opponents that he knows he's better than, even with his lack of, his lack of not being in the ring. But someone that stays active. He just hasn't fought and doing these exhibitions, he's going to be okay. He's going to be able to protect himself and be able to hit them at will. And being able to protect himself when trying to be hit, obviously eight. I forgot the record. You just said the guy, what was his name?

[Joe]

157.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I mean obviously he's probably great in his, in his craft and what he did, but he's, he's. No, he has stands no chance in a boxing ring with Floyd Meadow. Whether he's young, whether he's old, whether he's in his prime. Hell, he probably beat dude with his jab hand all night long if he wanted to. So again, for one, I think that's a tune up. The one, the, the guy, the Greek guy, that's a tune up before he gets to Manny Pacquiao. Because I, I think, I think that guy is going to, to probably, you know, try to, try to give him a little show, give him a little challenge, but that's all that is, that's all it comes down to. Because he knows once you get to Manny Pacquiao, all bets are off. All bets off. That's a real live fight. Ain't no exhibition. He not taking it easy on you. He gonna go so that, that the Mike Tys. Listen, give me something. Let me refill, let me refill my pockets real quick. Boom. The tune up fight against the Greek guy. I don't know how to say his name. The proper way is a tune up for Manny Pacquiao. And then come September in the spear, we going, we going all out.

[Joe]

Absolutely. Trying to keep fine tuned until you

[Uncle Ocho]

get the Pacquiao, you get that. Get that rust. Get that. Get that ring rust out of you.

[Joe]

I hate it. What you think? Yeah. Cause I wish Floyd didn't have to do this. He made enough money he shouldn't have to do this, and I don't. Maybe. Maybe he just wants to come back. Maybe there's an itch that needs to scratch. Maybe the. The competitive juices are flooring again. But when you talk about Ocho, he's. Let's just say for the sake of argument, these are exhibitions. Floyd hadn't fought three fights in one year since 2005. That's over two decades ago. It doesn't even. It doesn't look good because sometimes the. The mention of like, like Florida's book. I don't know if Florida's broke. Floyd broke compared to other people.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's not the same.

[Joe]

It's different now. You know, you hear things that, you know. Taxi owed this person. I saw Logan Paul was talking about that he owes him. And some Greek company, some Dubai company is suing him for. For $10 million. I don't know if there's any truth to that chat. I really, really don't. I don't know Floyd's finances, and I don't know anybody that knows Floyd finances. But it's just it, man. I. I just hate this. I. I hate it. You know, when you heard story of Joe Lewis, how Joe Lewis had to come out and had to fight much longer than he should have. Ocho, I hate that for guys, when they have to do that because they take such a beating when they're in the prime, when they're young, boxing, even when the hair gear and you sparring, Ocho, you still get hitting upside your head. Yep. It's just like when you play football. Yeah, you got a helmet on, but them damn licks still hurt.

[Uncle Ocho]

And when. You know, also Uncle Joe, when you think about it, too, you have to think about. We talk about Floyd. We talk about Floyd, one that's over his career in 50 fights, hadn't taken much punishment. He hasn't getting it. I mean, obviously you do get hit. But he's minimized those hits in that wear and tear over the years because he's so great at defense. He's so great at defense. So he's one of the few that can come out. And that's why the first thing I said, he's one of the few that can come out of retirement, even at his age, and still protect himself. It's like, hell, I ain't rode a bike in 15 years. Joe but if I had to get back on there, I can get on there and know what to do. Especially when you talk about one of the best, if not the best of all time. And now, depending on who you ask, when it comes to boxing, obviously you throw other names in the pot, but I think gonna be all right. He gonna be able to do what he needs to do in the ring. He knows how to protect himself. He knows how to carry a fight, which I think he's gonna do for the young bull out there in. In the Greek guy that he's gonna face. He gonna. He gonna carry him. Not when he. When he does.

[Joe]

Hey, my bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, you good, you good, you good.

[Joe]

But. But why. Why. Why is he fighting Mike Tyson, though? Like, the last time I seen Tyson fight, he wasn't throwing no punches. Like, we gonna throw no punches. This guy, this fight, either. That's what I'm saying. So I know it was somebody. And I'm not saying, you know, obviously I'm a Tyson fan, but, I mean, damn, Tyson. 6. Well, is Tyson at least 60? A couple of years. He got to be. At least. Tyson got to be at least two to three years older than me, and I'm about to be 58. So he's 60, 61. I don't want to see the biting, the gloves and all that. Oh, he didn't want to hit him. I'm messing that money, huh? He didn't want to hit him and mess up. He tell my. He didn't want to hit.

[Uncle Ocho]

No. Jake ain't want to hit him. I mean, Tyson ain't want to hit him.

[Joe]

He'll be 60. He'll be 60 years old. June 30th. Tyson will be 60, June 30th. He's born in 66. I was born in 60.

[Uncle Ocho]

You look at it, you look at that. Jake Paul, Tyson fight like, those first two rounds, and if you know Tyson, if you watch Tyson fight over the years, when he comes out, he's straight to action. He's straight to action. I mean, even if you're not young, if that's the way you fight, that's the way you fight. You don't change the way you fight over the years. So how do you think he sits in the pocket and we going to work?

[Joe]

So how you think he gonna fight Floyd? Floyd ain't gonna sit there and let him.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's not. That's not Floyd. I don't. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know. I don't. I Don't know what's gonna happen with that because, I mean, we saw.

[Joe]

We saw.

[Uncle Ocho]

We saw Mike. We saw Mike Tyson and Roy, you know, and they. They also didn't want to hit each other. So I'm. I'm not sure.

[Joe]

But Roy already said, look, he is not gonna hit other each. He not finna hit my mama child with that left hand. That ain't happening. That ain't happening. Nope. Not gonna hit my mama's son with that left hand. So Roy, Roy was. Was. Was. Was honest about, you know, like, look, he still got power in the hand employ, and he still has power, Ocho. We watched him, Joe, and you watched him when they were showing the lead up to the fight. Man, you see Tyson hitting that bag, man. But you see how Tyson.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, ain't none change. And that's how you know if you see him hit the bag, you see him hit the mitts. And all of a sudden you get in the ring and you look completely different or you're trying to figure out why you not letting go. Why you gun shy?

[Joe]

And he was letting him go when he was sparring, when he's hitting him, he was letting his hands go, Ocho, you know. Yeah, I just. Look, look, we got to talk about it, so we're gonna have to watch so we can, you know, provide some. Some analysis. But it's just. I. I just. I just wish. I just wish at 50 years of age. I don't. I, you know, I don't. I. I don't. I mean, could you imagine if you could, if you had to? I mean, I. Look, I love. I love football. Yeah. But ain't no way. I was. After retiring at 35, I was coming back at 40.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

No, but hey, like, hey, hey, I came back. Did you know what, Joe? Ocho, if people didn't want to see it, it wouldn't. Yeah, somebody gonna watch it.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, it's only everybody say, you know, right.

[Joe]

Netflix got. How many. How many countries are they in? 200 countries. Countries probably got 3,400 million subs subscribers. Netflix ain't playing, is it? What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they're definitely gonna watch. And half the people watching to see him lose.

[Joe]

Yeah, Yeah, I just. I don't know. But hey, he. He want. He. This. He wants to do it. I don't know. I don't know if it's. It's just these three fights and that's it, Ocho. Or he's gonna have more fights in 27.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we got.

[Joe]

But it just goes to show you what Current state of boxing is, is that people will watch this and they got real fighters. That just goes to show you what the current state of boxing is. I mean, we got good fighters. They got. Hey, there are fights to be made. Like I said. Hopefully, Gervonta Davis get his situation resolved. But you got the Davis kid, Keyshawn Davis, and you got Shakur, and you got Ryan Garcia. You got. You got Devin Haney, you got guys. You got Lomo. I think. I think Lomo retired.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Lomo, Teofimo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

I know one. Retire. But there are fights to be made. There are fights to be made.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Lomachenko retired. I mean, it's. It's. It's so many. I mean, just the. The problem is, it's too. It's too much dead time. Huh? It's too much daytime. So while, you know, fights haven't been resolved yet or, you know, too many layers between fighters wanting to fight. I mean, so something like this, I mean, it's gonna have people watching.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. People gonna tune in for sure. I guess we have to go watch a couple of rounds, Ocho. Yeah, we'll watch a couple of rounds, but bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's like, hey, we going to the fight. We going to the fight in Vegas in September.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Well, we gonna walk. We gonna walk in there, but we gonna be clean, too, boy. And we got a good. We got. Yeah, yeah, we gonna be clean, boy. I can't wait.

[Joe]

Why are you gonna suit it and booty?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, y' all gonna be clean, Joe. I might be the cleanest one in the house, Joe. When I put. I'm putting these pants on right here, Joe.

[Joe]

All right now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. What?

[Joe]

Yeah, you doing too much.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Ain't nobody gonna be. Ain't nobody gonna be at that fight in September and he got down leopard pants but me, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah. Cause you probably won't be able to take them off. They're gonna be so funky.

[Uncle Ocho]

I take these to the cleaners every three days. No, no, you got the cleaners right across the street.

[Joe]

That's okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. I ain't gonna wear them. I'm wearing some boots. I'm wearing some boots.

[Joe]

I don't know what I'm gonna wear, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you wearing, Joe?

[Joe]

I'm sure I. I'll piece something together. I'm probably put on. Put on one of these little fly suits I got over here, man. I.

[Uncle Ocho]

A suit. A suit suit.

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm coming with a suit, man. I'm coming. I'm coming. Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's a Fight.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. You ain't fighting. He like he walking the intro joke. I mean, o joke. Hey, Joe, I'm coming, I'm coming in. I ain't playing no games about like

[Uncle Ocho]

a suit like you wear to church.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm coming. I'm gonna be clean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Joe, Joe, you can, you ain't gonna be comfortable. It's a boxing fight.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. You'll see. You'll see. Check me out.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah, I hate to wear no suits because after we have this rematch and I put foots in him, he gonna be too sore. His ass gonna be sore. So I will be putting when we get him back on that pole. Oh, you gotta chill. You gotta chill. Nah, nah, Joe. Cause you be bribing. All you do, all you do is be talking to my, the people, the people gave me this title. I didn't ask for no title. I had for that joke, man. Man. And this what the people wanted. So I have to get the people what they. Okay, yeah, yeah. You want to give the people what they want all the time.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm ready.

[Joe]

Yeah. But it's like I said, hopefully everything gets resolved and Floyd goes on about his life and everybody gets to live happily ever after.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, obviously some things need to change. Some things need to change because you won't be able to keep coming back out, you know, to be able to do these exhibitions as you get, you know.

[Joe]

Well, he better look good. That's what I'm gonna say. That boyfriend to put on the show after y' all got Floyd.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely. I mean, listen, Floyd ain't gonna look like Floyd despite, despite, even, despite his age because he's always active, Joe. And uncle, he's always, he's always active. So I mean, I mean I, I, I want to see it. I mean, I'm excited because I know what he's going to look like despite how long he's been off, despite having the ring rust. And that's, that's why he's doing the tune ups before you get to Pacquiao down.

[Joe]

Well, I guess I, man, I don't know. I guess I have to wear my Lou pants again the third time.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, okay. I like them thing. I like them.

[Joe]

I ain't wear pants. I, I'll get something. I have something. I have something. I pull something. I be a little clean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I'mma be clean though.

[Joe]

Boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm be clean, boy.

[Joe]

Joe, what, what you planning on wearing?

[Uncle Ocho]

O. I'm wear some cowboy boots, Joe. Yeah, cowboy boots. Nice little jeans. I forgot what they call them in Houston. They call them the jeans. They. They sit right over. They sit right over. Like, the jeans kind of fit, like slim a little bit, but it. It flare out perfectly right at the bottom to go right over the boot cut. Yeah, okay, boot cut. But it's a certain name to it, Joe. I mean, I forgot what it's called.

[Joe]

Flare legs.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, no, no. Not. Not bell bottoms. Not flare pants. It's a specific name. A pacific gene. I forgot what it's called exactly. And it just. It just. It just look.

[Joe]

What'd you say? It's a.

[Uncle Ocho]

What kind of specific. Specific.

[Joe]

Specific. I thought you said nice. It's the way I said that's an ocean.

[Uncle Ocho]

I talk fast.

[Joe]

I know you do. That's why I get you to slow down. Yeah, but that's. I mean, that's the thing. Now everybody's wearing. They're kind of a little slimmer fit, and then it gets. Look good, you know, kind of flare at the bottom.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Somebody in the chat. They must be from Houston. It's called stack. They call stack jeans. And I, out of just everybody I saw in Houston, you know, was rodeo. It's rodeo weekend or rodeo week, whatever. Yeah. I'm like, well, God, how come everybody. It. It looked right. It looked perfection. Like somebody tailored everybody jeans to fit perfectly over their boots.

[Joe]

I mean, everybody would clean that, stole that name. Because we used to call stacks platform shoes. Real. That's what stacks were called? Yes. Back in the 70s when guys used to wear those flare pants they had on. What we call stacks, which is platform. Okay. That's what stacks were called when I was a kid. I ain't know nobody. Like I said. We call those bell bottoms then. They call them boot cut. But yeah, that's what. That's what stacks were called when I was a kid. Anybody from Anybody. Anybody that's old enough to remember the 70s and 8. Except 70s. All the way through the 70s and the early 80s. Do anybody know what stacks. Platform shoes. Is that what y' all called them? They said jeans in the Houston are called strangers. Yeah, there's like. Yeah, stacks. That's. That's what we call. Yeah, I had some. I went to. I had a Halloween party and I had some. You know, I went.

[Uncle Ocho]

You had some platforms on.

[Joe]

Yeah, I will. I bought some height.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, how high the heel was? How high was the heel?

[Joe]

Probably about like this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, Okay, I see.

[Joe]

You know, your boy was happy. I had me an afro wig on with a jean outfit with a Polyester. Yeah, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey you. You got. Did you know how to do the walk? Remember the episode of Martin? Remember the fifth episode?

[Joe]

Hey, I was. Hey, I was strutting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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