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Joe
Hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ocho cry. The South Carolina Lady Gamecocks beat The Yukon Huskies 6248 in the final seconds. Gino Oriema approached Don Staley for a postgame handshake and then angrily got in her face before Don started firing back. The two were separated but Don kept shouting towards the bench before walking away. Geno walked off to the tunnel alone. In his post game news conference, Geno said he was frustrated because he waited three minutes for a pregame handshake with Don. He also said he did not regret the comments he made to Holly Row during the broadcast about the lack of files against South Carolina. It said Don Ransom raves at the officials and call referees some names you don't want to hear. Clearly someone got through the Gino because this morning he issued a statement saying there are no excuses for how handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for how I reacted. The story should have been how well South Carolina played and I don't want my actions to distract from that. I have a great relationship with their staff and I sincerely want to apologize to them. Geno Oreyama well, I'm glad you apologized because we about to tear your ass up. Gino but anyway, Ocho Joe, we still
Haz
gonna tear his ass up?
Ocho
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Haz
He was dead wrong.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Hey.
Ocho
Dead wrong. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen. As a coach, especially a winning coach like Gino, you have to be able. You should understand and you know, how to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace. When you beat Ms. Staley last time, you was all smiles, happy hugs, ready to, you know, whatever it may be. And the fact that you say some things to Holly Row and saying that in the game, that Don Stanley probably influenced the rest because you. Y' all guys didn't get the calls necessary. Listen, South Carolina, they didn't just beat y'.
Joe
All.
Ocho
They dominated in every aspect of the game.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
They played great defense.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
It just did. That wasn't a. That wasn't getting beat. That was getting your ass whipped.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
That's all it was. I mean, listen, your team got embarrassed. You got to be able to lose with grace as well. Okay? You didn't get the three minute handshake or you waited three minutes before, you know, pregame, and you didn't. What is that?
Joe
That had. So you still. She. She did take the whole joke. Yeah, she shook his hand in.
Ocho
In pregame.
Joe
Well, why did he say before the game?
Haz
She shook his hand, man.
Ocho
Oh, so he's upset and he had to wait three minutes. Is that. Why bring that up?
Joe
He's upset. He was the favorite. They blew South Carolina out last year. They were favored. They got two All American. First team All American.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
They might have the player of the year in Sarah Strong.
Ocho
Sarah A. She nice.
Joe
But. But South Carolina beat him. Yeah. And so this is. I'm. I was. I thought I was going to win. I was supposed to win, and I got beat.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
That's what this was about. This was a sore loser.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah.
Haz
Damn.
Joe
Handshake.
Haz
Yeah. Undefeated season. You know, he was so. He was salty. And how about not just apologizing to the coaching staff, you know, give. Give a personal apology to Don Staley, you know what I mean? Like, bro, for you to get in her face like that and talk stuff to her after the game, man, just congratulate and move on. I understand. You know, in the heat of the battle, you know, we.
Ocho
We.
Haz
We get a little pissed off. You know, like I said, he was on the brink of having an undefeated season. UN&OO yeah. And like, like UN said he was a heavy favorite, but, man, them girls from South Carolina, they just outplayed them.
Joe
They.
Haz
They outplayed. They dogged him. They dogged him. And he couldn't take it. He couldn't take it.
Joe
No, no, don't say South Carolina. You didn't do that to South Carolina. You was in Don Staley's.
Haz
That's what I'm talking about.
Joe
Apologize. Say, you know what? I want to apologize to the staff, and I want to personally apologize to Don St. Hello? Now, you told a lie because you said you had a great relationship with the staff. You don't. You said before they asked you after the game, do you have a relationship? You said, no.
Haz
Right.
Joe
So were you lying then or you lying now?
Haz
Right, right.
Joe
Hey, and you know what?
Ocho
Whoever. Whoever wrote that apology to Uncle Joe for GPT.
Joe
Allegedly.
Ocho
That, too. And he know if you're gonna apologize to something.
Joe
Allegedly.
Ocho
Yeah. If you're gonna apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with.
Joe
That's what I have.
Ocho
An altercation with the staff.
Haz
That's what I'm saying.
Ocho
You didn't have an altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
That apology been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
And.
Haz
And. And the fact that he was dead wrong. Talking about, oh, my player got a ripped jersey. Hell, she ripped her own Damn jersey. Yeah.
Joe
40 years, and I've never had a player ripped jersey. Well, I guess you never had a player get that upset then. Cause she ripped that on her own damn jersey.
Haz
Like, just dead wrong. Just, you know, you dead wrong like that, bro. Just apologize. Make a personal apology to Don. That's what I felt like it should have been, but I just felt like he was. He was dead wrong, bro.
Joe
Dead wrong, Don. Say, I'm a be. I'll beat Gino ass. I would beat Gino ass.
Ocho
Oh, you ready, Lips?
Joe
You ready?
Haz
Okay, okay, okay. Hey, Don from Philly. Uncle Ocho, she ain't playing. Yeah. She about to get to it.
Joe
Yeah. And that's. Anytime you have to. It has to have. It has to be personal.
Ocho
Yes.
Joe
Because what you did was personal.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Okay. You want to apologize to your institution because the way you behave and put them in a negative light, you can say that. I want to apologize to my university also. But you did this to. Don't. You didn't do this Entire staff. You did this to one individual. Now, whatever the case may be, I don't know where it goes back from, but he had a very contentious, contentious relationship with Pat Summit, the University of Tennessee. Yeah, it was very contentious. I know. Had had the lovely opportunity of meeting Pat in New York at the. At the sky Club at LaGuardia had a great time. I said, Ms. Summit, how you said, call me Pat, you know, so forth and so on. But, Gino, you was wrong.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
And your apology, I appreciate it, but it needs to have a personal touch to it. It needs to say, I apologize to the person that I spoke out of turn to, that I approached, that I. That I. I probably said something that I should have said. I don't know what he said.
Haz
Right.
Joe
The way you behave is that you took a lot of the. A lot of the. The. The.
Haz
The.
Joe
The steam out of the sale of South Carolina, because what we should be talking about, that South Carolina did what many didn't think they could do.
Haz
Right. Right.
Joe
Beat an undefeated team, a reigning champion with two All Americans. And they did it on the defensive end.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Yeah. There had some ladies that rose to the occasion offensively, but this was a defense. You look at what Sarah strong shot. You look at what Az Fudd shot, and that'll tell you everything that you need to know for you to not have a personal touch and said. I like to apologize first and foremost to Don Staley.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
She's a hell of a coach. She's rebound. Hey, look here. The Gamecocks, when you think about the game. Cause you think about the women's basketball team, you don't think about a football team. And they've had a baseball team, had good baseball team, good track program with Sarge Frye. But when you think of South Carolina Gamecocks, you think of Don Staley and the Lady Gamecocks.
Haz
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Joe
And so for you not to talk about the staff, you said you do not have a personal relationship with Don Staley. And. And I'm not saying that you have to.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Joe
But your behavior would suggest that you need to have personally apologized to her. I appreciate you apologizing to the University of South Carolina and their staff, but they got to be. Have a little more personal touch to it. That's what. Apology, apology. In order for you to. For you, an individual. Because what you did was to an individual, you need to personally apologize to said individual.
Haz
Absolutely.
Joe
Hey, what you want to say, honestly,
Ocho
if you know, excuse my language, man, that apology, most of the time it takes for somebody to get angry, for them to show their true colors and how they really feel.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I mean, that. That's all it is.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
And then on. On top of that, the fact that he didn't apologize directly to her, it lets you know how you really feel.
Haz
Right. Right.
Ocho
When you win it. When you're winning all this when you
Joe
win it last year, when he's on the sideline, the clock's running down. He got his hands all up there.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, smiling.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah. Back where we supposed to be.
Haz
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
Hey, that.
Ocho
Man, that fake ass apology, man. Ain't never no apology, man. He didn't.
Joe
He didn't.
Haz
He didn't even write it. But. But check this out. Can y' all imagine what Don Staley was like in the locker room after the game? Like, way to kick that. Of course, you know, she was going off like that.
Joe
Oh, yeah.
Ocho
Wait a minute.
Haz
Hey, that's what I would have been like. I'm like, man, wait, wait.
Ocho
Wait a minute, Joe. And hold on. You want to.
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You.
Ocho
You. You think it's bad because Gino did this? Imagine if the rules was flipped, boy. Yeah, man, it would have been World War iii.
Haz
Yeah. They'd have been talking big stuff about Don.
Joe
Man, listen, you gotta be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat.
Ocho
Defeat.
Joe
Now, think about it. Think about Geno. Geno's been coaching 20, 40 years. He's been the 25 Final Fours. He's won 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and one in final. In national championship games.
Haz
Damn.
Joe
South Carolina beat him a couple of years ago. He's 12 and one. So 12 times somebody had to walk across the floor, across the court aisle and. And shake his hand after gotten their ass tore up.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
You look at the women that he's coached from Tarasi and. And Lobo and Maya Moore and Charles and. And Brianna Stewart. And the list goes on and on. He's winning three out of four. Brianna Stewart didn't lose a national championship game. So for four straight years, this man, he up there. Cheech, Kiki, in people's face.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Now, the one time you're supposed to win and you didn't, you behave like this. Remember, you're as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Nobody likes to lose. Everybody talking about, man, I'm a sword. I hate when people say, well, I hate to lose every. If. If you. At that. Once you get to a certain level, everybody hates to lose.
Haz
Yes, sir.
Joe
You put all that damn time in all these girls and put all this time in and. And. And. And been away from their families and doing all this stuff. Nobody wants to lose. No, but it's a part of it. Yeah, but when they lose, they don't act like a jackass. Man, that. That kills me. I hate what Guy. Oh, I'm a. So, yeah, it bothers me. Anybody? Because I know there. There are some guys that. Hey, when they. When they winning, they running around and act like they're on the damn hoverboard. Yeah, but when they lose, Ocho, they can't be found. Well, you know, I. I didn't want. No, no, no, no. But they couldn't get you to shut up.
Haz
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
Nah, don't. Don't do that.
Haz
Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, I just didn't. I just didn't expect that from Geno, bro. I. I just felt like he was a classy individual, and I thought that, you know, he. He would. He would be much better than that. Like blaming Don on how she talked to the red man. Come on, man. We're in between the line.
Joe
Never said something out of. Out of line to the ref.
Haz
Come on, man.
Joe
But that ain't your job. That's the ref. You ain't no ref. You a. Coat it. Stop dry snitching. Yeah, and.
Ocho
And the way. The way he said it, the way he explained it, is as if Don screaming or saying whatever she's saying to the referees is influencing the ref's call in the game.
Haz
Right Then.
Ocho
Then he follows it up with the fouls.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Are we talking. What are we.
Haz
Gina.
Ocho
What are we talking about, Baby? You got whooped. You lost.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
You don't lose often, but tonight you lost.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
What about. What about that Ocho, the man, the one. He won like 112 something games. He won like he went like three straight years straight and never lost a game. Ain't no. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody did. Did what he did to him. What? Don Staley? Yeah, what he did to Don. They didn't do that to him. No, Don took that ass whipping. I think they beat the Carolina last year. They beat him. I think they beat him in South Carolina. Beat him by about 30 or 40, and they beat him by another 20, 30 last year. The championship game.
Haz
Yeah. D. Got some dogs over there, Uncle Ocho.
Joe
Oh, yeah, and Chloe Kip, one of the best rebounding girls. She hurt.
Haz
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
But McIr and Lassen, those at Raven Johnson, all those. Hey, them girls came to play. Yeah, they came to play.
Haz
They knew what was going to play
Joe
last night, and I just hope they could. I hope they can finish it off. Yeah, it's gonna be anticlimactic if they take down Goliath and they. They don't take care of ucla.
Haz
So ucla, they. Hey, they got. They Got. They got a big girl down there who ain't playing.
Ocho
Yeah, she nice.
Joe
Hey, but Carolina gonna play some defense now. They don't do nothing else. They gonna play deep. They're gonna hang the hats on defense because that's what Don was. Don was a. Hey, yeah, she was. Hey, she could. Hey. She could put the ball in the basket. But Don was a hound.
Haz
Yeah. And she got some girls who can go off the bounce, though. Who I'm talking about.
Joe
Yep.
Haz
Get to that chicken, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. Like, you know, you.
Joe
You. It's.
Haz
It's different when you got girls who out there moving like dudes. You see what I'm saying? Who handling that rock like a dude. Like.
Ocho
Yeah.
Haz
That's when you, like, hold on, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Joe
For real.
Haz
That's why I be looking up like, hold on. That girl got that thing on the string, don't she?
Joe
So. But Carolina did it. Game. The Lady Gamecocks has an opportunity to win their third national championship in four years. What? For what she's done to that program. Wow, man. Basically, that's what you got. That's what you got to do. Because for the most part, these. When you get a program, you build it up. Look at Gino. Gino was there for 40 plus. It's been at UConn for 40 years. Pat was there for 35. 40 years. Tar Vandiver at Stanford, 35, 40 years. You look at these ladies. And Kim Mulkey, when she was at Baylor, she built that program up.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
So basically, you gotta build a program. You just got. You just gotta build it.
Haz
You gotta be a great players coach to where these kids that's coming to your school, they gotta really, truly believe that you got they back. And I feel like with Don, you know, she in TikTok, she in Instagram reels, You know what I mean? That's relatable to these kids. Cause that's all they wanna do. You know what I mean? They wanna have fun, do stuff like that. At the same time, if you giving me everything that I'm asking for on the court, 100% on offense and defense, man, I do all the tik tok
Joe
y' all want to do, didn't she? What did she do? She let her team pick out a bag, A Louis Vuitton bag. I think she let Jackson State and them get sneakers. Yeah, I think she. I mean, she. She's just all like, I've never met Don, but she just strikes me as an allaround good player.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
A Good person.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
She wants to. Hey, look, she a hard worker. You can tell. She a hard worker.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
But.
Joe
And she. And she demands. She. She can't. The way she. She demands a certain level of respect.
Haz
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
And. And. And. And the women. And the women gravitate towards that. They know. Hey, once. Once a coach established what he expects or she expects, and they don't waver.
Haz
There you go. Yeah, she shout out to Don, man. She came and hollered at us when I was playing in the big three. This one, I was playing with the triplets. And Lisa Leslie was, you know.
Joe
Okay.
Haz
Lisa Leslie played together. Usa.
Joe
You know, they.
Haz
They dog.
Joe
Yeah.
Haz
Not. I mean, so she came in there and talked to us, bro. Like, you know, just gave us a little pep talk before the game, and I thought that was cool. So I got much love and respect for. I like how she handled herself, you know, after that game the other day. Because I'm gonna tell you, I would have been the same way. Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised. She jumped on Geno ass. I was like, well, look, I can't whip it.
Joe
I can't whip it in front of all these folks. But hold on. Wasn't Don under Geno at the US team? Yeah, they coached in the Olympics in 20.
Haz
She went on. I think she played for him, too. She played for him and coached with him.
Joe
He was a coach. Because. I know. I think Pat coached for a number of years,
Haz
But if I'm.
Joe
She might be. She. Is she still the. The usa basketball? Us women's basketball coach. Head coach and 21. Damien. I mean, our women had lost the gold medal since, I think, what, 92, 96, 2004. 8, 12, 16, 21, 24. So we don't want seven straight times.
Haz
They don't even have no competition, though. No, no, they too good.
Joe
Cause we go. I mean, we bring. We bring. I mean, we got Stu. Our bigs is Stewie And. And Asia. And then we got guards out the yin yang.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
We got Caitlin Clark. We got a net school. We got Chelsea. We got Jackie Young.
Haz
Yeah, they came up with us too many.
Joe
We got Fee.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
They can't. They can't fool with us.
Haz
Them girls can go boy.
Joe
Okay. Okay. Cheryl Reeves. Okay, so who's the coach? Who's gonna be the coach in 28? Reeves again. Okay, but you know, you bet you better than that, Gino. All the. I mean, it's. Huh. Carol Lawson. Okay. Duke. Okay.
Haz
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Tennessee on the path.
Haz
She coaching the USA thing.
Joe
She gonna be the coach in 28.
Haz
I like Carol Lawson.
Joe
She good. I like Carol too. But you notice it's always, it's mainly the coaches that win a lot and then when they lose, show date. Cause you know who else was like that? You know you played for Mocho. Oh, Bill Belichick.
Ocho
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
You want to run off the field, be getting short with the answers. It's always the people that that win you bro, you don't win. And coaches have to answer the question and talk about how great that play call was and how you went for it and all of this and that they gotta just allowed you with a praise and adulation.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Now you lose a game.
Haz
He gave you one announces.
Ocho
Oh yeah, big time.
Joe
Gotta play better, coach better.
Ocho
That's it.
Haz
Belichick said damn all that.
Joe
Hey, basically that's exactly what he said. CUCLA beat Texas 51 44. Four UCLA starters scored in double figures led by senior Lauren Betts who is 16.
Ocho
Can't get in town.
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Joe
Points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. But a crucial, a crucial one late in the ball game. Kiki Rice. We've had Kiki on 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win. And fell guards Gabrielle Hawkez, whose brother Jamie plays at the Miami Miami Heat, and Gianna N. Pickens each had 10. I thought Texas, cuz Texas got a girl. I think it's Booker. I think booker. She wears KD number 35.
Haz
You see what she shot from the field?
Joe
Boy, they did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots, Joe and Ocho before she hit that last one late. I think within four or three. But she was.
Haz
Oh, she got. She got plenty of game, uncle. Oh, yeah, I didn't see him play a few times this year. Yeah, but she won three or 23 for six points, bro. Yeah, ain't no. And look, they only. They ain't even lose by that many. I thought, you know, if she could have just played decent.
Joe
Oh, they beat them.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
If she played. If they. If she put. And, and, and here's another thing. They shot five free throws, Joe, so that tells me they're not aggressive. No, it tells me they're settling for jumpers.
Haz
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
She's over four. She's 04 from the three point line. And then she didn't shoot a free throw. Their starter, only one starter, shot a free throw. Let that sink in. Only one starter from the University of Texas shot a free throw. Damn.
Haz
Yeah. Hey, Best did a number on them, though. 11 boards, 16.7 for 10. She can play. I like her game.
Joe
Oh, she tall. She's 6, 6, 4.
Haz
I think she left.
Joe
It's going to be. Can, can, can. How does UCLA handle the pressure of the Lady Gamecocks?
Haz
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
When they, when they play? Huh?
Haz
Tomorrow at like 2:30 or something.
Joe
2:30. Well, I'm glad. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm glad they, they moved it in front of the men because before Joe and Ocho, you know, they were. I think they were what they playing after the men. At one point in time they were playing like on a Tuesday or have they always played on a Sunday?
Haz
I think they always play a day before the men.
Joe
Joe, do you remember. Do you remember Joe Ocho and the men's final four? They used to play a consolation game, like the two teams that lost. So, like, Arizona and Illinois would play.
Haz
Oh, no, I ain't never. I ain't knowing that.
Joe
Yeah, they used to do that, Joe.
Haz
I'd be pissed off. I wouldn't even want.
Joe
Oh, they say best six, seven. Damn.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's six. Seven. She down there handling business, too, boy.
Ocho
She's.
Joe
She's six.
Ocho
What?
Joe
That's seven. Hey, hey, the thing is. Hey, she can't. Hey, she better. She better buy her a Cooper flag. Cause she can't wear nothing but flip flops with a guy. Ain't no way she could put on new. She put on four inches.
Haz
Hey, could y' all date a girl taller than y'?
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Ocho
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't been there. I didn't been there before.
Haz
You dated a girl?
Joe
Hey, Joe, in 2017, they moved it from Tuesday to Sunday. I knew they used to come on. I was like, bro, y' all anticlimactic. You got guys hitting buzzer beaters. Carolina hitting the Villanova hitting the buzzer beater. How you top that? Yeah, go before the men. Damn. Hey, Joe. What'd you ask me, Joe?
Haz
I said, have y'. All. Have y' all dated a girl taller than y'?
Joe
All? I have not.
Haz
Ocho say, yeah.
Ocho
Yeah. You know, Joy had one by six five.
Haz
Did you really?
Ocho
Yeah. Six. Six? Yeah.
Joe
The country. You know you can climb a tree.
Ocho
Yeah, I was just getting ready to say that. Joe, you ain't never climbed. You ain't never clown no tree. Nobody taller than you.
Joe
Bad Joe. Find somebody, she gonna be seven foot tall.
Haz
Hey, hey, hey, Ojo, you said hell,
Joe
you went to the Amazon, right?
Haz
Ocho, you say y' all the same size when you lay down, huh?
Ocho
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy.
Joe
Got one of the most suited knees when wasn't from the club. What's the guy, Lou? All ding those. Those are the tallest women on average. What? What is he? Suited knees. I think he's Sudanese. They the tall. They have the tallest women on average. Joe. Yeah.
Haz
I ain't never dating no girl taller than me. I'm six, seven, six, eight. I mean, damn, you want me, I'm dating somebody. 69.
Joe
Hold on.
Ocho
Hey, Joe, hold on. Most of the time. Joe, when you was playing ball, like in high school and college, you dated other. Other Hoopers, right? No.
Haz
Yeah, I did. Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
You dated Hoopers, Joe?
Haz
Yeah. The girl I dated when I was in high school and college, she played ball.
Ocho
How tall she was?
Haz
She on about five, six, five, seven.
Ocho
I'm talking about Somebody like, six feet and better, Joe.
Haz
Oh, man. No, no, no.
Ocho
What?
Haz
You know, you don't never. You don't. You don't really. That's rare. You don't never really see two tall people together.
Ocho
Bam. Bam in Asia.
Haz
I said it's real, Ocho.
Ocho
Oh, my bad.
Joe
Yeah. Lisa Leslie and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Haz
They're my people. Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Lisa, like, six, four, six, five. And I think he, like, six, six, seven.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Joe
Yeah. Merton Hanks and his wife. You remember Burton Hanks, Ocho? Yep. Yeah, he. His wife. His wife. Hell, his wife might be taller than him. Yeah, like six, three. She got him.
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Joe
I think she about six, four.
Haz
Hey, I tell you what.
Joe
I've never. I've never dated. I've never dated a woman. But Ms. Betts, unless she get. Unless she get Nicola Jokic or the dude From Florida that's 7 foot 9, she can't wear no heels, right?
Haz
Hey, but that's how you get you a monster, though, boy. You get your name. Because if the woman tall, the child probably pretty much gonna be tall. It has a lot to do with the woman.
Ocho
Yeah, I tried. I tried, Joe. I tried, bro.
Haz
You tried. You ain't got no tall kids, Ocho.
Ocho
I mean, yeah, yeah, they are. They all. They all tall. They all tall. But I'm just saying, at that time, during that time, I was like, hey, listen. And they were like, no, it ain't the right time. I catch you later on in life. I'm like, listen, I ain't got time to waste.
Joe
Yeah, I mean, I dated women my height. Six foot. I mean, my height, but not somebody like six, three, six, four, six, five.
Haz
Yeah, if she put on heel.
Ocho
If she put on heels, then she taller than you.
Haz
Well,
Joe
hey, she got away. She got to wear clogs or sandals. Because the thing is, you know, my grandma and grandfather used to say, say, boy, if you date a woman taller, you the first thing she get mad at you gonna hit you in your head. So I. So I always thought, like, you know what? Nah, let me keep somebody. Look, keep me a little five. Little five, eight, five, five. Damn.
Ocho
Hey.
Joe
I said, no, I never dated a woman my height. Oh, okay, my bad. I've never dated a woman my height.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay.
Joe
I mean, taller than me. I'm. My height. Six to two. Yeah, I dated 1 6, 2. I've never dated 1 6, 3, 6, 4, 6, 5. Definitely not, man.
Narrator/Announcer
Six, five.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Don't be scared. I like them. Hey, I like for them to get on Their tiptoes to kiss me. What I look like on my tiptoes? Kissing a woman?
Ocho
Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh?
Joe
Man, you out your damn mind. Yeah, I know it is, Joe. What you think about? See, I'm on my tiptoes kissing her.
Ocho
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Joe
Now, you know, Joe, most of the time, women have been on their tiptoes kissing you. Yeah. You ain't been on your tiptoes kissing no damn woman.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
Hey, hey, hey. You never know. You never know till you try it.
Joe
I'm good.
Haz
I'm good.
Joe
I don't got old nine. I'm shrinking. So. Yeah,
Haz
defying girls that tall, they. They far few in between, boy. Hey, you got to be in the right place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's I'm talking about. That's tall and proportioned, right? I'm talking, right. Y' all know what I'm talking about.
Joe
I got kids.
Ocho
I mean, I know what you're talking about, Joe. I'm with you. I'm picking up what you're putting down, baby.
Joe
What you say, Joe?
Haz
I said, you know, hard to find a girl that's tall and she proportioned. Right?
Ocho
Yeah. The right.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Haz
You know what I'm talking about. Black eye, blood out. Yeah.
Joe
Oh, you volley. You got to get a volleyball player, then. You're right.
Haz
You're right. The volleyball girls different. Ain't they all?
Joe
Are they? Hey, you know. You know, O', Shea, she has a legs on her. She about five. She by five, eight.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
I'm talking about good 155.
Haz
Yeah. You used to go to the games, huh?
Joe
Nah, hell no.
Haz
You. When you was in. When you was in college, you didn't go to no volleyball game?
Joe
I don't. I'm trying to think. Did we have a volleyball team? When I was in college, I was in the league. She had. She had a. I think I was like, 25. She was 20. No, I was 26. She was 22. Because she had just got out of school, right?
Haz
That boy having tons of fun, boy, it's up.
Joe
Hey, on average, yes, sir. I don't know if I've ever seen one that wasn't fine.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Now, if we'd had a track. Now, track, women throw the disc in the shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
I remember them days. Them days over now, though, bro.
Joe
There you go. Hey, you know where everybody know what you like. You have a 12, but she ain't gonna be before I,
Ocho
you know. Hey, listen, listen. I've had you Know all different heights and sizes and, you know, weights, ethnicities, and. Listen, I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything in eight.
Haz
Hey, hey, you gonna taste the rain.
Joe
You already said, Joe. Hey, everything getting eight.
Haz
Yeah.
Ocho
Taste the rainbow.
Haz
He gonna taste the rainbow for sure.
Ocho
I mean, you got to, you know, you got to.
Joe
Old fella, he just. He just working on. He just. He only. He a 8th degree, 9th degree tongue fu master. He just keep getting different belts.
Ocho
Hey, man, it's only one way to get that black belt sometimes. Hey, listen, sometimes you got to set the standard, man. You know?
Joe
But no, I couldn't imagine that, Joe. Honestly, I could. I mean, I wouldn't feel like a man. I mean, if you're a guy and you on your tiptoes to kiss the woman.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
I mean, come on, Joe, you six, seven, six, eight. You on your tiptoes.
Haz
No, because that means she. That means she's six, nine. I just can't even see that. I can't see.
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Joe
You go, hey, you go out, you got. She got on heels. You are you black tie. You got a torso. She got on heels.
Haz
I got these hard bottoms on, and
Joe
they snap a picture, you on your tiptoe.
Ocho
Hey, ain't never. Ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change. Hey, hey, you. You and your soft era. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Joe
No, no, no, man. Come on, Ocho.
Narrator/Announcer
I'm just saying.
Ocho
I'm just saying, you need. Don't knock it till you try it.
Joe
I'm just. Look, I mean, look, if you. If you're a short guy problems, you 5, 2, 5, there's a great chance if you 5, 5, 5 or under as a guy, you probably gonna end up marrying somebody taller than you.
Haz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Because most of the time, you know, unless. Unless you, like, you know, you date a little person. A little person. But I mean, sometimes they get. As a matter of fact, Brad Williams, you know, he married. He married a. A not a little person. She's taller than he is. But for the most part, if you're a small guy, you're gonna probably end up with a. Yeah, I think.
Haz
I think. I think smaller dudes.
Joe
They. And they.
Haz
They kind of like that. They do, yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.
Joe
They.
Haz
I think, like, even when it comes to, like, you know, having a offspring and everything, they think about that. They think about, damn, I'm short. But if I give me a Tall Woman About 5, 9, 5, 10, and I ain't, but, hell, 5 6, I might be all right.
Joe
Yeah. You know, if they're in between. Yeah, I get somebody five five. I'm five five. Boy, we might have a little person and. Nothing wrong with a little person. I'm just saying. Because you look at Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Kanye. What? Kanye 5:5, but Kim, 5:2.
Haz
Damn.
Joe
We got our game on Monday night. We got the Yukon Huskies taking on the Michigan Wolverines on a Monday night. Who you got? You will start with you, Ocho. Who you got?
Ocho
I got Michigan. I got.
Joe
I got.
Ocho
I got. Yeah, I got Michigan.
Haz
I got Connecticut. Since Ocho got Michigan, I ain't got. I ain't riding with you. I got Michigan. You want. Bet you want. I mean, you got Michigan, I got Yukon.
Ocho
Let's bet some on it.
Haz
All right. Would you. You know what? Nah, let's not bet. Let's not bet. Let's not bet. Uncle, you got. Uncle, you got.
Joe
Ooh. Man, if Lindenberg wasn't hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might got to go UConn, man. I don't know if they. I don't know if they could beat Yukon without him, right?
Haz
Without him. Healthy. 100.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Yeah, I. I tell you what. I tell you what. Since both of y'. All. Both of y' all got UConn, right?
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Let's. Let's make a little small wager. A small wager that's feasible for me where I won't. I won't miss it. Five hundred a piece.
Haz
Listen, listen, listen, Ocho, I already owe you an ass whooping. I just don't want it to get out of hand. You know what I mean? Where you owe me the way you owe me now.
Joe
Hey, hey, Joe, look what he got on the back of it, man.
Haz
That's what I. We've been talking about this already, you
Joe
know, that's your boy.
Haz
That's me.
Joe
I'm going to send it. I'm going to see. I'm gonna get the ass. Let Ash go ahead and send that to you. There you go.
Haz
What size is it? What size is. Make sure I can.
Ocho
What you gonna. You gonna wear it?
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Haz
I'm away
Joe
large.
Haz
Yeah, I can squeeze and I get in there. I can get it.
Joe
Hey, tell them, Joe. If you don't do nothing, take a picture in it.
Ocho
Hey, hey, come on. Hey. Let's stick the business now.
Joe
Let's take the business.
Ocho
So we want to bet 500 or what? 500 a piece.
Joe
What do you think?
Haz
Should we trust him? On there, it's only 500.
Joe
You won't be 5,900 for. For three years.
Ocho
But that. That's any. That's an emergency fund. Huh?
Joe
So what. So I guess the 500 gonna go to the emergency fund. Also.
Ocho
I'm pay. A matter of fact, I'm gonna pay y' all right on the spot on the show Monday night. I. I'm telling you.
Joe
And.
Ocho
And Joe. Hey, Joe, for your sake, you better hope. You better hope we. We. You know. Cause you talk about me on you. If Michigan win. I. I mean, if Michigan lose, I might not want to pay you. Just so you get mad.
Haz
See, you gonna piss me off, and I'm your ass like you are you gonna add to the ass whooping. Ocho, don't do that. That's all I'm saying. I think you're a good dude. I really think you're a good dude. I really do.
Joe
I'm a good dude. He just don't pay his debt.
Haz
I hate for it to go down like this. You know what I mean? It's like a dude with a gun. Like, I got one. I don't really want to use it, but. Right.
Joe
You know what I mean?
Haz
Don't push me. You feel me?
Ocho
Hey, hey. Honestly, I think Joe barking up the wrong tree.
Haz
Okay?
Ocho
Joe barking up the wrong tree, man,
Joe
all that. I think I'm. Damn. I want to pick Michigan so bad. Damn. I hate that Lindenberg got hurt.
Ocho
Hey, come on.
Joe
You not.
Ocho
He hurt.
Joe
He.
Ocho
He got a little thigh contusion. He gonna be all right by Monday. He gonna be all right by Monday.
Joe
That man, that blood finger settle in that muscle.
Ocho
Hey, all they gonna do is get that graston. That's what we call it grassland, right?
Joe
Oh, you talking about when they take that thing and just.
Ocho
Yeah, right. That thing up.
Haz
He gonna have to be doped up.
Joe
Yeah, that thing hurts so bad. That thing hurts so bad.
Ocho
Yeah, it do. You ever had a contusion, Joe, man?
Joe
Yeah.
Haz
Ain't nothing worse than that. Was it like you try to chase a dude and you get kneed in that quad?
Joe
Yeah.
Haz
Ocho, you out about a week or two here.
Ocho
Hey, you got. You gotta get on that fast, too, boy.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Who you taking, Joe? You taking Michigan?
Haz
Oh, I'm taking Connecticut.
Joe
You take a Yukon?
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
Ocho taking Michigan.
Ocho
Yeah, so. So both of y' all want to go against the grain. Y' all did the same thing when it came to making that bracket. And you see, y' all lost. We.
Haz
We all lost, Oto.
Ocho
No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen. I lasted longer than you two. That's all that matters.
Haz
It don't matter.
Ocho
I lasted longer than you two. That's the key.
Haz
I was happy as hell.
Joe
Arizona.
Ocho
Oh, yeah. So 500. Bet.
Joe
I might change my mind tomorrow. I'll let you know.
Ocho
See, see, see? Hey, somebody. Where he got common sense. Come on. Come on over here. To the winning side, huh?
Narrator/Announcer
Why do we try so hard?
Joe
So I can breathe. Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.
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If I can breathe. If I can breathe, I can think. I can think. If I can think. If I can think, then I can win.
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Joe
Oh ucla the Lady Bruins blow out the Lady Gamecocks to win their very first women's NCAA championship. In her 15th season at the helm, Corey Close pulled off what many didn't believe possible. The 28 point margin of victory is the third largest in Division 1 basket women's championship history. UCLA never trail opened up a double digit lead at the end of the first quarter en route to his 31st straight win to make history. Lauren Betts was named most outstanding player in the championship.
Haz
They put they put BTA to them girls today.
Joe
Man, they did a number on them
Ocho
girls from the start.
Joe
It wasn't close. I mean look held him to 29% shooting from the field, 13% shooting from the three point line. It was just too much size. And Nick Kippens and Hawkins and Kiki Rice, they were the better team and ain't no way around it. And it seemed like to me you could tell early on the Gamecocks were missing layups, missing bunnies. And I, I called my sister probably about five minutes into the game. I said, it's over. She said the game just getting started says it's over. Their championship game was to beat Yukon. They're not beating this team. They got too, too small, too big, making too many shots.
Haz
They got off to such a slow start. Go ahead.
Ocho
Oo, no, I was just gonna say. I was gonna say they got off to a slow start. But that goddamn defense, huh, the defense was so suffocating. You see how they were putting and they, they were scoring that goddamn wheel. You can tell there was a difference in understanding why ucla, if I'm not ucla, if I'm not mistaken, only lost one game this year.
Joe
They did.
Ocho
I, I think. And you could tell the difference in, in teams. Obviously South Carolina is good, but UCLA is a much, much better team all the way around.
Haz
Yeah, they, they, I think I thought they had, I thought they physicality. Them big girls at the ucla obviously best. But I thought. What's her name? Yak. What's her name?
Joe
Oh, Jes. Gabriella.
Haz
Oh, I don't know how she ain't win mvp.
Joe
Did you see the look on Lauren Bett's face when they say she's the most outstanding player? She was shocked. Me too. I'm sorry. Me too.
Ocho
I was more shocked than you Haz. That's Young Bull. That's Young Bull's sister from all the heat, huh?
Haz
Yeah. Oh, she balled out. She balled out. I think they whole team balled out. Just, just, just from watching them, they kind of, it seemed like they understood what was at stake. They had never. I don't even think they ever been to the championship game.
Joe
Nope.
Ocho
That was their first national championship, huh?
Haz
Yeah. Hey man, them girls came out with they mind made up. Cause I thought South Carolina, you know, they got some dogs obviously, but they just didn't have a size to even compete. I mean, they, that girl Betts, she was, she, she, I mean, she had everybody at her mercy. They couldn't do nothing with her.
Joe
Nope.
Haz
Nah.
Joe
11 rebounds. I mean she was, she was sensational today. I mean the whole team played and they deserve to win. Like you said, the size, they couldn't do anything with the size. They get picked and then they get them in a pin down, and they just throw the ball over the top. Layup hot care. They were the defense. Will you hold a team to 29% from the field, 13% from the three?
Haz
It seemed like South Carolina got a lot of girls that's kind of similar in height. Like, they all can kind of go off the bounce. They all can shoot a little bit, but they just don't have enough size in the paint to be able to withstand a bit. So anybody as of such. You know what I mean?
Joe
Yeah.
Haz
And this show. This show today, man, those girls locked in, bro.
Joe
Two of the big Chloe kids is out. She tore Knee Watkins is dealing with some other issues. I think she might have tore on me, but she had some issues going on. So maybe she's back. But the guys, that. Joyce Edwards did not play well. Watson, who was the All American, she did not play well. Raven Johnson didn't play well. Tessa Johnson was really the only one that played well. McIr, she shot the ball okay. Yeah, they didn't play. They didn't play well. And that had to do with UCLA and the defense that they give them credit. Yeah, yeah. South Carolina didn't shoot the ball well, but it went out there by themselves. Somebody forced them to miss those shots. Yeah. Like you said, they got behind early and it just. It just grew.
Haz
It did, man. It was just like.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Joe. How tall was the five from UCLA? How tall is she?
Haz
67.
Joe
Yeah, that's the one we was talking about.
Ocho
Yeah, I know, I know. I wasn't tripping.
Haz
Yeah, she a big girl now. She was a low ocho.
Joe
Yeah, I'm talking about.
Haz
They couldn't do nothing with her down there.
Joe
Hey, the thing is, remember, Joe, she had that belt. She was coughing on the sideline like she had an asthma attack or something.
Haz
Yeah.
Joe
They needed to carve into that league while she was out. And when they couldn't get. They couldn't gain any traction while she was out.
Haz
Yeah. Cause UCLA still build on the lead when she was sitting on the bench.
Joe
Absolutely.
Haz
Yeah, you're right. You're right. They just didn't play.
Joe
They didn't play well. Congratulations. Game. Cards, you went. I wasn't at their fourth or fifth straight title game. Well, yeah, I think. Well, probably a fourth because they went back to back. They won back to back. They lost last year and they lost again this year. But ain't nothing you could do, Joe. The better team won.
Haz
Yeah. I ain't saying.
Joe
And then the girls dancing at the end, I was like, go ahead on, miss.
Haz
Yeah, I ain't see this, though, you know?
Ocho
You didn't think it was gonna be like this.
Haz
What?
Joe
No, I didn't think they'd lose by 20, not by 28. I thought the game would be much closer. Yes, I did.
Haz
Now, don't get me wrong. I ain't seen a lot of UCLA play. I may have seen like a game or two, if that, but I've seen South Carolina play on numerous of times. Right. And I just did not see that. After they beat. After they beat Connecticut, I thought they was almost destined to win it.
Ocho
Yeah.
Haz
But I held. Clearly, I hadn't seen who beat ucla.
Joe
Was it Texas? Was Texas?
Haz
I think it was Texas. Yeah, I think they did.
Joe
I think Texas is the only one that beat them.
Haz
And they beat Texas in the tournament, didn't they? Yeah, yeah,
Joe
Yeah. But congratulations to the Lady Bruins. Winning their first NCAA championship. Finished of the season, 37 and 1. But they got a lot. They got some seniors on that class, I think. I'm trying to think. I think Raven Johnson is a. Is a senior. I think they bring a lot of these girls. I mean, I don't know. They could. I mean, I think Ladson. I think she comes back.
Haz
She'll senior. You think she come back?
Joe
I don't think she'll see you. Is she a senior? Is that the one that transferred from Florida State?
Haz
Yeah, I think she. Yeah, she'll senior. Okay, she'll senior.
Joe
I know Raven Johnson's a senior.
Haz
Yeah, I think UCLA got a lot of seniors, too.
Joe
Yeah, I saw that. And she hugged. She hugged the lady, the UCLA coach, before the game. Who did? Don.
Haz
Did she.
Joe
Don Staley? Yeah. Yeah. But no, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a situation where, you know, Carolina be back. Don Staley is a very good coach.
Haz
And she got some good recruits coming in, too.
Joe
Yep. I think she got that girl that won the dunk contest. Isn't the girl that won the dunk contest coming in from McDonald's all American?
Haz
I think so.
Joe
Carolina?
Haz
I think so. I think so. But I know she got another girl coming who go to Sierra Canyon out there in. Yeah, la. I forgot her name, but she could play.
Joe
Yeah, that's where juju went. Sierra Canyon.
Haz
Yeah.
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Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (with Haz)
Release Date: April 8, 2026
This jam-packed Nightcap episode dives into the explosive end of March Madness, focusing mainly on the women’s tournament’s dramatic storylines: South Carolina's upset over UConn, the heated postgame exchange between coaches Dawn Staley and Geno Auriemma, and UCLA’s historic first women’s title. The hosts deliver unfiltered, funny, and passionate takes on sportsmanship, legendary coaching dynamics, and the evolution of women’s basketball, blending sharp insights with classic banter.
[03:27–10:49]
Broader Sportsmanship Lesson:
This episode captures the high stakes, the raw emotions, and the evolution of women’s college hoops, as dissected by legends who mix comedy, cutting insight, and love for the game. If you missed March Madness, this is the next best thing—fun, fiery, and full of memorable soundbites.
For sports fans new and old, this Nightcap episode is a must-listen for understanding why March Madness still brings out the best (and worst) in coaches and players—while giving us all plenty to root for, cheer at, and laugh about.