Best of NBA News Part 2: Drake DISSES LeBron + Steve Kerr RETURNS to Warriors + What's Next for Joel Embiid?!

Summary

Nightcap – Best of NBA News Part 2: Drake Disses LeBron + Steve Kerr Returns to Warriors + What's Next for Joel Embiid?!

Date: May 15, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson ("Ocho"), various co-hosts (Michael, Joe)
Podcast: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

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Episode Overview

This fun, fast-paced late-night episode centers on three major NBA storylines:

1. The Drake vs. LeBron "diss" in Drake's new album
2. The Golden State Warriors extending Steve Kerr and speculation on their aging core
3. LeBron’s legacy with the Lakers and what's next for other NBA stars, including Joel Embiid

The cast, especially Shannon and Ocho, blend stats, banter, historical perspective, and hot takes—keeping the conversation loose, entertaining, and packed with basketball insight and memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LeBron James & the Changing Lakers Narrative

Timestamps: 03:08 – 21:40

• LeBron’s Legacy and Criticism

  • Extensive breakdown of LeBron’s impact on every franchise he’s joined; Lakers, Miami, Cleveland.
  • Quantitative evidence of team improvement after LeBron’s arrival (win percentages, championships, etc.)

    “Once he's there, you win about 62% of your games. So basically that's a 22% increase.” (Michael, 05:21)

  • Laments how LeBron is often held to a double standard versus other greats like Giannis and Jokic, both having similar Finals records but less criticism.

    “Only one is deemed unsuccessful. You see how they did that? If I don't like you, you can't do enough good to make me like you.” (Michael, 05:53)

  • Discussion on loyalty, legacy, and perpetual comparison to Kobe Bryant among Lakers fans—how Kobe’s legacy remains untouchable for many despite LeBron’s excellence.

    “Nothing will unseat how they feel about that man. So when the conversation comes, nobody tried to.” (Ocho, 15:34) “It's okay to say, man, Kobe is great, but LeBron is a bad [man]. It's almost like if I say LeBron is bad, I'm saying Kobe ain't no good.” (Michael, 17:09)

  • Contextualizes aging and performance, comparing LeBron and Kobe’s late career stats and circumstances.

• Role Acceptance & Team Dynamics

  • Ocho draws a parallel to his own football career, saying he had no problem taking a backseat to help win, appreciating the value of a supporting role.

    “I ain't got no problem being Robin the Batman. Oh, I'm taking a backseat, Joe. Absolutely.” (Ocho, 21:41)

  • Team loyalty, personal pride, and the sacrifices greats make for championship hopes are discussed candidly.

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2. Steve Kerr Returns & the Warriors’ Crossroads

Timestamps: 28:59 – 39:10

• Contract Extension and the “Old Band”

  • Kerr’s two-year contract makes him the NBA’s highest paid coach; question raised: does this signal another run with Curry, Draymond, and the core?
  • Skepticism about Draymond Green’s future, as his value outside of the Warriors’ specific system is questioned.

    “I mean, I ain't really heard people call him like, hey, man, y'all trying to get up off Draymond, because we love to have it. ... He's great there for them in that system, but to take him somewhere else and ask him ... what are you going to ask him to do?” (Michael, 29:42; 30:20)

  • Recognition that Steph is the only “untouchable” piece, but even Curry is aging.

• Roster Challenges and Championship Prospects

  • The cast doubts the Warriors can make a serious Finals run with the current, aging core—Steph (38), Draymond (36), and Al Horford (39), referencing the “old man Rockets” as a cautionary tale.

    “What do I hope that LeBron will be 42. Al Horford's 40. Steph would be 38, 39. Draymond ... 36, 37 ... what we expect to do. Do what with that.” (Michael, 33:17)

  • The possibility of LeBron joining the Warriors is dismissed as unlikely (“I just don't see it. ... The West too deep now.” – Michael, 32:55, 39:07).
  • Speculation that Golden State’s focus may quietly be on acquiring high draft picks (potentially “tanking”).

    “You know you got all these old, old players ... we gonna make sure you get this lottery pick.” (Ocho, 35:51)

  • Emphasis on the need for a young big man, lamenting how rare impact centers have become.

    “They do need a big. ... Bees don't come now ... it's hard to find a big now, boy.” (Joe, 37:09)

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3. Drake’s “Diss” of LeBron & Rap/NBA Crossover

Timestamps: 46:53 – 47:57; 60:21 – 64:33

• Drake’s Album and Alleged LeBron Diss
  • Drake’s upcoming album “Iceman" includes a clear shot at LeBron:

    “I shouldn't even been shocked to see you in that arena because you always made a career off switching up teams. Damn.” (47:01) “Please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real one and he's not. It’s in my DNA.” (47:17)

  • Ocho and crew wonder if this was AI-generated or real; advise fans to wait until the album’s official release (May 15).
  • Acknowledge the personal dimensions of the LeBron/Drake relationship—how beefs can reshape public friendships:

    “LeBron and Drake were close. … Drake would drop something, LeBron would get to listen first. … If I’m beefing with somebody and you … play a partner with him, I’m going to look at you sideways.” (Michael and Joe, 60:21–60:54)

  • Discussion shifts to how fans and social media will judge the album, amid escalating artist feuds (TI’s album release also mentioned).

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4. Playful Banter, Role Debate, and Life Travel

Timestamps: 41:03 – 45:46; 65:20 – 75:45

• Basketball Roles/Comparisons

  • Fun debate on who would play what role if Ocho and Joe were basketball teammates; Ocho insists on being the “alpha,” while Joe needles him as needing to “play your role” and “be a star in that role—defense and hustle.”

    “Your role is to hustle and play damn defense. That’s your damn role. I need you to be a star in that role, okay?” (Joe, 42:03)

  • Ocho says he puts “butts in seats” and could be an electrifying personality like Ant-Man (Anthony Edwards).

    “Personality wise, when the camera in front of him, Ant Man is me.” (Ocho, 46:20)

  • The chat jokes Ocho would be Kendrick Perkins—more rebounding and picks than highlights.

• Travel & Life

  • Spirited talk about flying, airline prices, and the fantasy of the “Nightcap Jet."

    “I know the way the man upstairs work. It's gonna happen. But y’all, you know how much it take to operate a plane, don't…” (Ocho, 74:12)

  • “I don’t need first class, just give me an exit row and a window.” (Ocho, 75:07)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If I don't like you, you can't do enough good to make me like you.” – Michael (05:54)
• “Nothing will unseat how they feel about [Kobe].” – Ocho (15:34)
• “It's okay to say ... Kobe is great, but LeBron is a bad [man]. It's almost like if I say LeBron is bad, I'm saying Kobe ain't no good.” – Michael (17:09)
• “Hey, I ain't got no problem being Robin to Batman. ... I'm taking a backseat, Joe. Absolutely.” – Ocho (21:41)
• “I don't see Golden State being a serious threat anymore. The West too deep now. Hey, that window closed.” – Michael & Ocho (39:07)
• “I shouldn’t even been shocked to see you in that arena because you always made a career off switching up teams. Damn.” – Reading Drake lyric (47:01)
• On basketball roles:

  "Your role is to hustle and play damn defense. ... I need you to be a star in that role, okay?" – Joe (42:03) "See, I don’t think Joe understand who I am ... I put butts in the seat, I could fill a stadium out by myself, Joe." – Ocho (42:16)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:08: Lakers, LeBron’s legacy, and team improvement stats
• 05:25 – 05:49: Giannis/Jokic vs. LeBron: Unfair player narratives
• 07:36: Context behind Lakers rebuild before LeBron arrived
• 10:16 – 14:34: Kobe vs. LeBron late-career stats breakdown
• 21:41 – 22:14: Ocho on accepting a supporting role for a championship
• 28:59: Steve Kerr returns, Warriors future debated
• 31:02 – 39:10: Warriors' challenges: Aging roster and title hopes
• 46:53 – 47:57: Drake’s diss track—lyrics and reaction
• 60:21 – 64:33: Personal angle on Drake-LeBron beef and album expectations
• 41:03 – 46:20: Ocho and Joe spar on roles, basketball/football player comps
• 74:01 – 75:21: Nightcap private jet & flying preferences

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Conclusion

This "Best of NBA News" edition of Nightcap delivers signature deep dives and highly entertaining sports talk. The crew deftly analyze shifting NBA narratives—especially around legends like LeBron and the looming end of an era in Golden State—interweaving stats, personal anecdotes, and banter. They also bridge sports and pop culture with their take on the Drake-LeBron saga.

Listening to Ocho, Shannon, and Joe debate roles, reminisce about TV detectives, and dream up the “Nightcap Jet” gives even non-fans a reason to tune in. As always, the episode is a masterclass in unfiltered, insightful, and hilarious late-night sports talk.

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For NBA fans and pop-culture followers alike—this episode is an instant-reaction must-listen.

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[Joe]

One.

[Michael]

How many NBA Finals have he gone to? One. Right.

[Joe]

One.

[Michael]

He's Finals MVP in eight years in Denver, how many championships have Jokic won, Joe?

[Joe]

One.

[Michael]

Interesting. Now one guy. Now, Giannis is deemed successful. Jokic is being successful. Only one Ocho with the same amount of championships.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

A finals mvp. Only one is deemed unsuccessful. You see how they did that?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

You see, if I don't like you, you can't do enough good to make me like you.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Michael]

Hello.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Michael]

But if I do, you can't do enough wrong to make me dislike you. We see that going around. We don't. We don't get political here, but we see what's going on. Yeah. You see what I do?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm with you when you're right.

[Joe]

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[Michael]

Ironside. I don't know if y' all remember Raymond Burr. Ironside, he was in a wheelchair.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Matlock. Heat of the Night.

[Ocho]

What you know about Heat of the Night?

[Michael]

What? Come on.

[Ocho]

Grandma used to watch Heated the Night. Why, man?

[Michael]

Come on. Hey, Joe, let me give you. I want to give these Lakers fans and all these Lakers. Now, this is what the Lakers record was in 2013. 14. They were 2755. They didn't go to the playoffs the next year. There was 21 and 61. They didn't go to the playoffs the next year. They were 17 and 65. They didn't go to the playoffs the year before. And. And in 2016, when LeBron James took off the NBA championship, there was 26 and 56. But, boy, the Lakers were bad. Boy, people couldn't wait to see the Lakers

[Joe]

in LA winning them amount of games.

[Michael]

You do realize in that time frame, they got Brandon Ingram, they got Alonzo Ball, they got Drew Randall. Now, how in the world would you be able to get the number two pick in the draft if you win, If. If you in the playoffs? How is that possible? How you get Lonzo ball if you in the playoffs?

[Joe]

Right?

[Michael]

Something. My granny used to say it all the time, Ocho, something in the milk ain't clean, but I'll let y' all keep on talking. But I. I hold on. Ain't no way. Kobe. Kobe. Go with that. Give me Kobe at last. Pull up Kobe's last eight years. I want to see how many NBA. How many times. Let's see what he did his last eight. That's all we want, last eight. We just go do a little comparing and contrasting. Because I tweeted something in 2012 that I said, LeBron, that Kobe and Jordan were the greatest players I ever seen. And then somebody. Somebody retweeted it. I said, but, you know, four NBA titles, four Finals mvp, seven all NBA selection. And I said, my mind changed. I thought this was the girl for me, Joe. But after she left behind dry, I changed my mind.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah, but people make it seem like you can't have it. You can't change your mind. So once you say something, I'm sure at some point in time, you probably might have thought this football player. I'm sure a lot of people say, well, Joe Montana was the greatest quarterback, or John Elway, or Dan Marino was the greatest quarterback, Peyton Manning. And then here come this kid that went in the sixth round from Michigan. I'm sure at some point in time, somebody said this guy was the best defensive player, whether it was Merlin Olsen, whether it was Deacon Jones, it was Bob Lilly, Randy White, Mean Joe. But then this kid out of North Carolina came along and had 56 on his back. And I'm sure that the corners, they probably said, well, Dick Knight, Train Lane. Nah, it was the Lester Hayes, Mel Blunt, Ken Riley.

[Ocho]

Ken Riley? What you know about Ken Riley, huh?

[Michael]

It was Kenny. So this, then this little kid, skinny kid from Fam. From Fort Miles, Kim Riley.

[Ocho]

Fam. You rattler. You don't know nothing about them rattlers, huh, man? Hey, you know Ken Riley? Hey, Joe. Ken Riley, the only banger in the hall of Fame with Anthony Munoz.

[Joe]

Oh, really?

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. He don't. He don't get enough. He don't get enough credit, man. No credit. Boy, you were good, boy.

[Joe]

I learned something new every day.

[Michael]

Last year, his last year, Kobe retired at 37 years of age, he averaged 17 points. 3. We'll give him 4 rebounds, 3 assists. 2014 at 36, he was 22, 6 rebounds, 6 assists in 2013, 14, he was 35. He averaged 14 points, 4 rebounds, 6 assists at 2012, 13 at 34, he was 27. 6 and 6 at 2011-12, he was 33. He averaged 28, 5 and 5 at 2010, 2011, he was 25, 5 and 5. He shot 45 in 2010. He shot 43 in 2011. He shot 46 in 2012. He shot 42 in 2013. 37% in 2014, 36% in 2015. Run me, run me Bronze Ryan. Because we, like, do context, Joe. It wouldn't be fair, Ocho. We got to provide context.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Michael]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Michael, listen, because you can't argue points and facts without context. And most of the time Today, especially for you, hunk. You know, you want to be factual. You want to have. You want to have the facts in the stats to support whatever it is you're trying to get across.

[Michael]

Because, see, I think this ain't Michael Beasley. He told us. He said, man, you judging by decisions, but you didn't know the choices that I had. Oh, I'm just gonna provide a little context for you, because I know y' all like context. I got to give you why I said something or why this. Because, you know, y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all told me Kobe was still that apex predator. That's what y' all told me. That's what Laker Nation told me. Yeah, that's what you told me.

[Joe]

Oh, we know, Braun.

[Michael]

Numbers don't surprise it. Don't surprise it. Don't spoil the surprise.

[Ocho]

Okay, I got a question before you read off bronze numbers during those times where Kobe's numbers were what they were. Was he injured during that time?

[Michael]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. All I'm saying, the man. 35, 36, 37. My guy, 40. Oh, so you go.

[Ocho]

You're gonna compare. You're gonna compare the numbers based on age at the same time.

[Michael]

Remember, LeBron didn't start the season. LeBron got hurt. Remember he missed the first 15 games?

[Ocho]

Okay. Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Michael]

So this is what he did when he got to the Lakers. 27, 8 1/2. 8. Do you realize there have only been four players to average that? The old counting up. I think it was. I think Oscar did it. I think Jordan did it, Russ did it, and Harden did it. But all of those guys did it before they turned 30. He did it at 32, 33. These guys were doing it at 25, 26. So what guys was doing at 25, 26. Go. James was doing it 32, 33. The second year, he was 25, 8 and 10 championship. And then he went 25, 8 and 8, 38 and 6, 29, 8 and 7, 26, 7, and 8. Last year, moving to the second option with Luca there, he gave you a robust 24. What was it? 24, 8 and 7. And then this year, yeah, he gave you number a little 20. Get a little 24 spot at the second option, DeLuca, he gave you 24, 8 and 8. And then this year, at the third option, 21, 6 and 7 shooting 55, 51. Basically 52 from the floor. Has he ever shot less than 50 when he's with the Lakers? Okay. The year they won the championship. So his second year there when he averaged 25, 8 and 10, he shot 49.3%. Other than that, Joe, he's never shot less than 50 from the Lakers.

[Joe]

Hey, I don't think people understand

[Michael]

how

[Joe]

tough that is to do. Like to. To be that efficient, especially as you get up in age. Bro. The man, 41 years old, what he shot this year, 51.

[Michael]

I think 51.5, bro.

[Joe]

That's. That's. I. I guarantee is. Nobody's ever done that.

[Michael]

Even he can't do enough good if he walk on water. People say the only reason he walking. Cause he can't swim. If he could swim, he would swim in the water. He wouldn't walk. Cure cancer, they say. What about diabetes, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah, right. You know, the funny thing is about this conversation.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Ocho]

And you think about what Kobe means to la.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Ocho]

You think about what Kobe means from the Lakers, what he's done for that franchise, you know, from the time he got there, you know.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Ocho]

To the time. To his un. Untimely demise.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Despite what he looked like towards the end of his career, I don't think there's anybody that can come to the Lakers and unsee what Kobe did. Just. Just no matter what. Even what you reading off the stats, even if you read. Even what you reading off the facts and how great LeBron has been for. For them, those that are Kobe fans or those that appreciate what Kobe has done for them, nothing, Nothing will unseat how they feel about that man. So when the conversation comes, nobody tried to.

[Michael]

I understand that'll be the equivalent of all of a sudden, Chase. Chase gonna have better numbers than you. But that don't take away from what you did. Nor is Chase trying to erase what you did. See what people see. Here's the problem that you're running into. Ocho and. And Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, you step in at any point, all right, Because. Because it was Kobe and LeBron for the longest period of time.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Michael]

I can't get past that. You trying to come make us forget about Kobe. You trying to erase Kobe's legacy. Although Kobe legacy is. Is. Is enriched in Mount Rush. Rushmore cemented.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

But people can't see. I can't. I can't. Kobe is Kobe. Hey, no matter how you slice it, Kobe is a top three Laker all time. No matter how you slice. Right. Some people say Kobe, some people say Magic, some people might slot Kareem, but however you slice it, he ain't getting out of the top three.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Michael]

There have been some other greats. You got Elgin Baylor, you got Wilt Chamberlain, you got Jerry west, you got James Worthy, you got Mike, and you got LeBron. Kobe ain't getting out of the top three. And that's okay. It's okay to say, man, Kobe is great, but LeBron is a bad. It's almost like if I say LeBron is bad, I'm saying Kobe ain't no good.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

Right.

[Michael]

See, that's what the problem is. Ocho. It's like if I say. If I say man to was a bad boy. What about Ocho? Ocho was great, too. I'm talking about Tio, right? If I say. If I say Jerry's good. Oh, you don't like Moss. Man, you know what I love? You know what I love in the morning on my cereal show? Bananas. Why you don't put blueberries on them? Damn. I don't dislike blueberries. I'm saying. I'm highlighting. I like bananas. You can like what you want. Yeah, but to say I hate LeBron and he ain't been good for the Lakers. You. You're not being just. You're being disingenuous.

[Ocho]

Okay, I got you.

[Joe]

Thanks. Facts. I. I think. And when you think about it, the fact that Kobe. That was the only team that Kobe ever played for was the Lakers. You know what I mean? He won, what, five titles? And, you know, yeah, they.

[Michael]

They.

[Joe]

They have had a disdain for LeBron

[Michael]

over the years here.

[Joe]

When he won the Laker. When you won the Laker and you come playing against Kobe and y' all a mono A. Yeah, they had a. And the fact that he's probably moved around to a few different. Different franchises and left his stain, you know, I mean, they embraced him, don't get me wrong. But. But, yeah, they.

[Michael]

They would never put him over Kobe, nor should they. And he didn't go there to try to be. He wanted to go. Because think about it. We just read off what they were before he got there, right? They was winning 17 games, Ocho, 27 games. You was damn near getting a lot. You was damn near getting the number one overall pick. It's okay. I like Kobe. I love Kobe, too.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Kobe and Bron were my two favorite players. Kobe was my favorite player before. LeBron. Burns is from D.C. prince, George County. He knew about Kevin Durant. I ain't know nothing about Kevin Durant. He said, let me. Hey, Sean, let me tell you what I do. I. I'll give you LeBron if you let me get Kevin Durant. Cause it Was my turn to take the next great player coming out of college. So it was my turn to get kd. He wanted KD because KD was from his neck of the woods. I already had Kobe. I said, hold on. You gonna give me LeBron? And I still got Kobe for Kevin Durant. Oh, yeah. I jumped on that with both feet. I jumped on. Oh, Joe. Joe, I jumped on that with both feet.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I got one in the east, one in the west, and all you want is Kevin Durant. Man, please. Yeah, got it. You remember they was thought they was going to the finals, and. And LeBron averaged 38. 8 and 8. And Orlando put them out. You remember they had the Muppet Series with Kobe and LeBron? I got it now. Y' all know how long ago that's been? That's been, what, 2018. I still got a T shirt 16 years later with LeBron and Kobe, the Puppets on it. Y' all remember the commercial used to have on and Kobe be going crazy. LeBron said, Come on, Kobe, man, stop.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to like them.

[Michael]

You can. You could. Look, I can love a player, but I ain't gonna hate. Man, look what I look like. Hate what Ocho look like hating somebody. Ocho, prime example. You could have. I mean, I think it helped because you and to was best friends before he ever arrived in Cincinnati. Yeah, but if somebody came and they trying to help you win a championship, man, I don't know why. Oh, the fans, they're gonna say, man, I don't know why he came here. We got Ocho. Ocho our guy. Ocho can still be y' all guy, But I'm trying to help Ocho. Ocho want me to come help him get a championship. Hey, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey. Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

What's that?

[Ocho]

While I stood on that table, while I was in Mike Brown office, I told Marvin, man, go get 81. I don't care what you got to do. I don't care what. Man, go get 81. Boy. Boy, I'm so bad. That was such a joy. I was like a little kid in the candy store, Joe. Just knowing my dog was coming to play with me. I'm getting ready to be able to play with one of the best in the world. Boy, Joe, I'm talking about top three all time, Joe. We on the same team.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, hell, Joe. I told him, you get that, boy. I ain't got no problem being Robin the Batman. Oh, I'm taking a backseat, Joe. Absolutely.

[Michael]

Think about that. Think about that, what Ocho had done for that organization. At that point in time, Ocho was the best receiver. I. I joke with him and you know, talk about downtown Freddie Brown or I talk about. I, curtis.

[Joe]

Yeah. Green.

[Michael]

A.J. green. You had slim pickings. I was in the era with slim pickings. I was like. But Ocho, Ocho was the best. And for him to say, you know what? I slide to number two.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Quick.

[Michael]

After six pro bowls in a ten year span, all pro, the leading receiver.

[Joe]

It ain't many guys.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, I. I understood what was coming. Joe, I understood what was coming into that building, boy. You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. Was it more of. Obviously he was your partner, but did you look at it like, damn, I know he gonna take a lot of pressure.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no. Because I didn't see it as pressure. I was gonna get mine regardless. I understood with that dynamic how he could come help us and elevate us offensively. I understood what he could do in the slot on the outside. And then, not only that, they were always playing designed for me. And Joe, when I played, I didn't need a whole bunch of volume catches. All I needed was four or five catches a game. Joe, I'm getting off.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I wasn't doing all these little bubble screens and, you know, slant routes. Joe, I'm running.

[Michael]

I'm running routes.

[Ocho]

I need about.

[Michael]

I need about two or three balls.

[Ocho]

I'm over a hundred.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. But nowadays you'll be running that little bubble screen.

[Michael]

Now when you say plays, you don't want that bubble screen.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe. That makes that. Hey, Joe.

[Michael]

Oh, Joe, want to get down the field?

[Ocho]

Hey, you heard? You heard. Hey, Joe. And Unc ain't lying. Joe, that. That makes me uncomfortable.

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[Ocho]

I don't. Yeah, that means I need to know.

[Michael]

I need to be running around when they run.

[Ocho]

You heard me?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Hey, hey.

[Joe]

When they run that bubble, you gotta have some wiggle.

[Ocho]

I got wiggle jokes. But I don't want the wiggle where everybody's in front of me. I want to know where everybody gonna be at while I'm running. You get what I'm saying?

[Michael]

That side impact is that collision. Because you gotta realize, I catch this, I'm coming inside. Here come dt. Here, come in here. Come live middlebacker.

[Ocho]

I don't want none of that, Joe. And you know what? And I. And I could be. I could be honest, Joe, that. That's not my strength with. With the ball in my hands. That ain't my goddamn strength. I can't do what Chase do. He bouncing off tackles bounce off linebackers.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

That ain't me.

[Michael]

Look here. I want to catch the ball, beat the corner outrun to safety. Man. I got the deep tackle, the dn. The middle backer, the safety corner. Oh, no.

[Ocho]

I don't want no part. Ho. I don't want no part of that. No.

[Michael]

Steve Kerr has agreed to a two year contract to return his head coach of The Warriors. The deal keeps Kerr as the highest paid in the NBA annually. He made at least 17 and a half million the last season. Joe, does Kerr coming back to the warriors at least two more seasons? Does that keep the band together? Does that keep Kerr, Steph and Draymond together for at least two more years?

[Joe]

Man, I don't know, fellas. I don't really know how they really feel about Draymond. If y' all just want me to be 100%. I know he's a huge part of what they done, the emotional leader that we always talk about. But I wonder how the coaches really feel about Draymond, how the front office really feel about him. You know what I mean?

[Michael]

Yeah. The question is. The better question is that how do other teams feel? Do they feel he will be as valuable to their team as he was to the Warriors? Because I don't see. I mean, I ain't really heard people call him like, hey, man, y' all trying to get up off Draymond, because we love to have it. Do you see calls like that happening? I don't. Now, I'm not saying that he's. I'm saying he's great there for them in that system, but to take him somewhere else and ask him, what are you going to ask him to do? He's not a scorer. He's a. He still can do. He still can defend.

[Joe]

He's.

[Michael]

He's an okay rebounder. He can run your offense, but he don't have the shoe. He ain't got Steph, and he doesn't have Clay. So how valuable is he to another team as he was, or is to the. The Warriors?

[Joe]

I don't know. Cause ain't nobody got no damn Steph Curry. And I just think that the chemistry that Draymond and Steph has, you know, nobody in the league has that, bro. And so, no, I mean, it's hard for me to see him playing somewhere else, Uncle Ocho, considering everything that he's done in Golden State. But, hell, they got rid of Klay. I just think the one person who they ain't gonna ever get rid of is Stephon Kirk. I don't think they ever gonna get rid of him.

[Ocho]

Steph gonna get frustrated. He gonna get frustrated. Cause if you look at it the way the team is built, the way the team is constructed, they're not constructed to win. So Steph out there just doing, you know, stat padding, you know, you don't have a chance of winning another ring. I know you already got, what, four we got four rings already, huh? I think.

[Michael]

Correct.

[Joe]

I think they do got to make some changes though. Okay, Ocho. I mean, I don't know what changes they can really make or if they can even go out and get any big time free agents, but, I mean, hell, you was fighting to get in the play in. Ain't no way. You mean to tell me you bringing Steve Kirk back and y' all coming back with this same team?

[Michael]

No, no, I don't see that I have a chance. You in the play in and you've been in the play in the last three years.

[Ocho]

Hey, what, Little Drake, what if Draymond does come back? Obviously, I think LeBron is gone. Do you see any scenario where LeBron ends up in Golden State next year? Or that far fetched?

[Joe]

I don't see that.

[Michael]

Look, look, the, the, the warriors wanted Draymond. I just don't know if I'm. Excuse me. The warriors wanted LeBron, but I don't know if that's something that he was actively searching for. The question is. Look, I, I don't. At the end of the day, what does LeBron want? I don't know how many 50 million, 60 million dollar contracts gonna be out there, Joe, I just. Be honest, not for. I understand he's a draw, but I don't know if I can. If I can bust my roster up, bring him on at that number. And it. Because I'm trying to win a chat. At the end of the day, I'm trying to win a championship. That's what he wants.

[Ocho]

Hold on. You're trying to win a championship, but you know, closer to the championship with the roster you got now, and there's really nobody you can bring in that can get you closer to that championship.

[Michael]

Are you talking about in the Lakers?

[Ocho]

I'm talking about over there in, in.

[Michael]

In the Bay, in Golden State.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

No, I just don't see it. I mean, you got Al Horford over there, who's, who's serviceable, but Al gotta be. Al gotta be pushing for the jokes. He's about 40.

[Joe]

About 40. Probably about five years younger than me.

[Michael]

So Al's 40. I mean, Steph's gonna be what, 38, 38, 39.

[Joe]

They're gonna be an old ass team boy.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Joe, you at Joe.

[Michael]

At some point in time. Joe and Ocho, man, look, that's what the Rockets. Oh, you had Scotty Pippen, you had Elijah One, you had. I don't know if Clyde was still that thing. Clyde might have played one. I'm not sure And Barkley, they were way, way past their prime. Yeah, I mean, what do I hope that LeBron will be 42. Al Horford's 40 staff would be 38. Draymond will be what, 36, 37. I just don't know what, what we expect to do. Do what with that.

[Joe]

Yeah. Ojo be 45 in June. Late June.

[Ocho]

Hey, okay, Joe. Okay. 45.

[Michael]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe]

You know what I mean?

[Michael]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I mean, now you. You ain't getting up there because listen, I'm 58, Joe. I still look like I'm 23.

[Joe]

You hear me?

[Ocho]

So you doing. Are you doing something right?

[Joe]

Ain't no spring chicken no more, Joe. I used. I used to be good.

[Michael]

I used to be real good.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm glad you know, you ain't no spring chicken. What? Huh? I'm gonna show you. You ain't either.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Draymond just turned 36. Did he turn. He turned 36 in March.

[Joe]

Yeah. It's gonna be interesting. What, what the Golden State, what the warriors are going to do. I mean, they just, they brought Kurt back and I'm sure, you know, he got some changes he want to make.

[Michael]

Step is 38. He gonna be 39. He gonna be 39 next year.

[Ocho]

Hey, he's special. He's special, though. He don't really count.

[Joe]

Well, he missed a lot of time this year too though.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he would hurt. What was wrong with him? Joey hurt his knee.

[Joe]

Yeah, he hurt his knee.

[Michael]

Yeah. Ah, shit. And guess what? Injury start coming with greater regularity.

[Ocho]

Hey, Steph, if you need a nutritionist, holla at your boy. I get you, right?

[Michael]

Al Horford is 39. Aiden Boyd, as a matter of fact, he'll be 40 his birthday in June.

[Ocho]

And the boys old boy, I don't

[Michael]

really know how far. A 42 year old, a 40 year old, a 38. A 38 year old, I. 39, 30. I don't know how far they gonna take you, Joe.

[Joe]

I don't either.

[Michael]

I just don't.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, they might be being slick, man, you know, when them lottery balls come up, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, what you saying?

[Ocho]

I can see. I can see it play out. Let me see out the blue. You know you got all these old, old players, right? But you know what?

[Michael]

Hell, Steph just turned 30.

[Ocho]

Hey, we know something under the table, we gonna slide your new two year, right? And we gonna make sure you get this lottery pick.

[Michael]

Hey, all I know is you fool around like David Stern. Hey, I asked the Timberwolves by trying to do contracts under the table. What does it do to you?

[Joe]

Set your ass way back.

[Michael]

Voided the contract. Took the next three. Took the next three that you couldn't have a first round pick and blew it up.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm. Listen, I'm. I'm just throwing. I'm just throwing scenarios out there that could be possible.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, it's.

[Ocho]

You know, I mean, listen, it's possible.

[Michael]

You got a team and then you got Jimmy. I mean, Jimmy Butler still there, but Jimmy Butler's coming off an ACL injury.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's gonna be tough, bro. They had a nice squad this year.

[Ocho]

Now see, if it happened, they don't. Don't remember who said it first.

[Joe]

What's that?

[Ocho]

Didn't boy get an early pick? Early that. That lottery pick for some reason that. That little ping pong ball say warriors out the blue.

[Joe]

I don't know about that, Ocho.

[Ocho]

I feel you.

[Michael]

I still don't know how much that's gonna help a mocho.

[Ocho]

They just need some young big.

[Joe]

They do need a big. And they. The bees don't come now. They don't come from around the corner like they used to back in the day. It's hard to find a big now boy.

[Ocho]

Hey. Hey. Well, young bull from Purdue went.

[Michael]

Who? Zach.

[Ocho]

Eating. Yeah. Where he went?

[Michael]

Memphis.

[Ocho]

Okay. He played

[Joe]

with John. They would get money over there.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Trying to think about Biggs.

[Michael]

Yeah. Then they're big. So we'll. We'll see if they can. You know, they want to keep this thing together. I guess it's like. Because how many. I wonder how many years Steph got on his contract. Because that'd be. That's gonna be. That's gonna be very, very interesting.

[Joe]

I agree.

[Michael]

He unrestricted free engine in 27. So he got this year one year 62 million. No, hold on. He's on the contract with Golden State through 2627. Signed a one year extension in August of 24. So he said to earns. Yeah. So we got two years left. You got two years. So it could. There you go. It coincides with what The Steve Kerr contracts coincide with what? Steph Curry contract expiring. Draymond has this year on his contract a player option for 26, 27. Yeah, they probably so if that. That's. They constructed it like that for a reason.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I think they're like, okay, Stephan, let them know what he wants to do

[Joe]

and

[Michael]

they'll do what they do. But I just don't see it. I. I just don't see Golden State being a serious threat anymore. The west too deep now.

[Ocho]

Hey, that window closed.

[Michael]

Minnesota, the spurs, the Nuggets. I just don't see it.

[Ocho]

I just know that window closed.

[Joe]

That's why I think Curry. Curry gonna have to team up with somebody on.

[Ocho]

I just told. Told you.

[Michael]

Oh, somebody gonna have to come here. I don't think he wants to go anywhere, Joe. I don't.

[Joe]

Yeah, I probably. I wouldn't want to leave neither, but I just can't. I don't see LeBron going to Golden State if I.

[Michael]

If.

[Joe]

If.

[Ocho]

You know, Braun always wanted to play with Curry now.

[Joe]

But here's the thing. If Brian leave, if Braun just so happened to lead the Lakers, I think he coming somewhere out East. I don't know where, but I think he'd come somewhere out east so he can get the hell out of that Western Conference. That damn juggernaut out there.

[Ocho]

Well, what you think about LeBron coming down here with.

[Michael]

Put him on Detroit.

[Ocho]

Nah.

[Joe]

What you mean now? Yeah, what you mean?

[Ocho]

What did my a. What you think about LeBron coming back? Think about LeBron coming back to the Heat with Yanis.

[Joe]

You can't rule out now. He might go back home. Let's say Cleveland don't get up out of here.

[Michael]

So what you gonna put? You go. You gonna replace Harden with him?

[Joe]

You gonna put. They're gonna.

[Ocho]

You know, he ain't got to have the ball in his hand.

[Joe]

Now, now, now, you know some numbers,

[Michael]

but I think you want the ball in his hand, huh? In that situation, because you want Donovan. You don't want. You know, Donovan like, hey, Donovan, do your thing. Off the ball.

[Joe]

I'm just saying, man.

[Ocho]

Make that thing work, man. Set the pic for me, Joe.

[Joe]

Nah, hell no. You setting the pick for me.

[Michael]

Shit.

[Ocho]

The devil is a lie, boy. You crazy as hell.

[Joe]

No shooting ass. You gotta set the pic, bro.

[Ocho]

Joe, man, set the pick for me, man. Matter of fact, you know what, Joe? Get your ass out the way. ISO, ISO, ISO, ISO, ISO. Clear that. Hey, hey. Clear that. Clear it out.

[Joe]

Clear it out. This is why you can't have nobody like this on your team. Cause, see, he don't wanna play his role. You know what I'm saying?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. I know. Sit your ass. Get your ass out my way.

[Joe]

That ain't your role on our team.

[Michael]

If we all on teams.

[Joe]

That is not your role.

[Ocho]

Hold on, Joe. Joe, chill. Chill, Chill, Joe, chill. Hey, hey, Joe. If I was a basketball player. You hear me? You got. You got to know. You got to understand your role, boy. I'm the alpha, Joe. I'm the alpha. I'm running the ship. I'm steering this. Now when I pass it to you, you can do your thing. When I go on the bench, your

[Joe]

role is to hustle and play damn defense. That's your damn role. I need you to be a star in that role, okay?

[Ocho]

Right, right. Hey, hey, Joe, let me tell you something.

[Michael]

I need you to be a superstar role player.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. See I don't, I, I don't think Joe understand who I am. Huh, Joe? I put butts in the seat, I could fill a stadium out by myself, Joe. So I definitely ain't playing. No, I'm gonna play defense, right? I'm gonna sit in the chair, Joe. I'm a sliding puppy, Joe.

[Michael]

I'm a slide.

[Ocho]

You hear me? I'm a slide. Em, right? But also people coming to see me for what I do on the offensive end, Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, I'll make sure I throw you a live. I'll make sure you get a highlighter too. But you gonna be a defender, a pick and roll guy. You're gonna be the screener, you know. Nah, you don't be doing all this, Joe.

[Ocho]

If you playing with me, you're gonna be deandre Aiden. Huh? You gonna be.

[Joe]

Oh, I already know. I can't even play on the team with dude. I already know that. I already.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, I'm playing DeAndre.

[Joe]

I'm gonna be a in the hell.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Joe, you got, you got to think and you got to take the comparison to me in, in football and transition that in, in the basketball

[Joe]

transition like that, bro.

[Ocho]

Oh, it's, it's going to for me. It's going, it's going to for me. But, but hey Joe, the people coming to see me, man, what you talking about?

[Joe]

Your shooting ability ain't like that, Ojo. We just got to be 100.

[Ocho]

But you gotta understand, let's just say this was my sport if it was my sport. Therefore everything you just mentioned will be up to par based on who I am.

[Joe]

Okay, so if we were playing football, who would I be in football then?

[Ocho]

If it was football, you'd be like, damn, what's a good comparison for Joe as a basketball player but in football, huh?

[Michael]

He gonna be Mike Evans.

[Joe]

Yeah, I like that.

[Ocho]

Oh, Mr.

[Joe]

Consistency.

[Ocho]

Mr. Consistency. I like that.

[Joe]

Nice.

[Ocho]

I like that Mike probably gonna have

[Joe]

a hell of a year over there in San Fran too, man.

[Ocho]

Mike finna go slap ass crazy over there, boy, in that offense.

[Michael]

Hey, Oo the chat calling you OO Perkins. Kendrick Perkins.

[Ocho]

Who?

[Michael]

They said you Kendrick Perkins. So you. We said rebound and setting picks. See?

[Ocho]

See the chat Tripping the traction. Hey, I think the chat. Boy, y' all better. Y' all better YouTube and Google me. Stop playing.

[Michael]

Ocho, you. Was that football? That'll be.

[Ocho]

No, but I'm just saying. I'm just. I'm just saying, if we talking basketball, think about me playing basketball from 4 years old all the way up.

[Michael]

Yes, but you didn't. So we talking about now, and you talk about this man that played the sport. You talking about. He gonna be Deandre Ayton and you gonna be the guy that. Shoot. You gonna be Kobe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Or you gonna be.

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no. Because I play too much. I play too much.

[Michael]

Okay, you gonna be Shay.

[Ocho]

No, no, Shay too serious. I need somebody. I need somebody to have fun playing the game.

[Michael]

There is no. Ain't nobody making a whole lot of money. That's really good. Ain't nobody. Everybody serious about this.

[Ocho]

It gotta be one NBA player. That's really, really good, but made it fun. No,

[Joe]

I can see you. Yeah, I can see you being like Jed Vanderbilt. Like, I can see you being like a. Like a Vanderbilt dude play for the Lakers. I can see you.

[Michael]

Because he.

[Joe]

He everywhere, Ocho. I mean everywhere. Hell of an energy, you know what I mean? Got a nice little.

[Michael]

But they don't throw him no balls. Yeah, they don't give him the rock.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that ain't me trying to keep it 100.

[Joe]

Oh, hey, we need him doing.

[Michael]

Ocho said he want the ball.

[Ocho]

Nah. Hey, I can play off the ball, though. I don't need the ball. I can play off the ball. And I'm efficient as hell. I'm efficient. I'm efficient like.

[Joe]

You gonna be getting a lot of layup.

[Michael]

Okay, hold up. What about Ant Man? Ant man, have fun.

[Joe]

Hey, see?

[Michael]

Bingo. That's the perfect example.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's the perfect example. No, no, no, no. Joe, Joe, think about it. Personality wise, when the camera in front of him. Ant man is me.

[Joe]

Personality wise. But y' all games ain't gonna eat.

[Ocho]

Now, it's the same on and off the court. We the same. Hey. Having kids and shit.

[Joe]

Same shit.

[Ocho]

Ant Man. That's me. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey,

[Michael]

Uh. Oh. Oh. Drake appeared to take a shot at LeBron at 1am in Albany.

[Joe]

Who.

[Michael]

I shouldn't even been shocked to see you in that arena because you always made a career off switching up teams. Damn. He.

[Joe]

Who said this?

[Michael]

Drake.

[Ocho]

Hey, I got a question now, before. Are we sure Are we sure this wasn't AI? And this is. This is the part of the album Iceman that's coming out?

[Michael]

Yeah, he referenced. He. He referenced. Also referenced LeBron number and another line saying, please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real one and he's not. It's in my DNA.

[Ocho]

Damn. Yeah. Yeah, I got to. I got. See, you got to be careful with some of this stuff, especially on the Internet, you know, I, I, I ain't no telling. I would, for me personally, yeah, I would wait until that album comes out, because what we got, the album come out, what, May 14th.

[Michael]

Man, don't start me. The line May 14th. Tomorrow it is. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, Chat. Y' all would know better. Do Iceman come out this. This month, or is it next month?

[Joe]

No, they come out this month.

[Michael]

Tomorrow night. It don't. Oh, well, you going on east coast time. Because it's already. It's already. It's already the 14th on the East coast, but it comes out the 15th. Ocho Joe.

[Joe]

All right,

[Michael]

Midnight, which will be okay Friday morning.

[Ocho]

I was like, we'll be on, then. We'll be on it, right?

[Michael]

No, we off tomorrow.

[Ocho]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. I ain't got nothing to do.

[Michael]

We can have. We need a break.

[Ocho]

I don't need.

[Michael]

I mean, you and Joe did such a good job. I mean, y' all could, you know, you. You can have it.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, no.

[Michael]

That mean we gotta work. No, no, no, no, no. That would mean I got to work. Joe say Joe got it. Joe say he got his thing covered.

[Ocho]

Hey, so, man, y' all see.

[Joe]

Y' all see that intro?

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not fair. That's not fair.

[Michael]

What's not fair, Joe?

[Ocho]

Reading from something. I was. I went off the top of the head.

[Michael]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ocho]

I went off the top of the head. So now if you a Joe, I seen you put the script in front of you.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, listen, listen. Don't get mad at me because I was prepared for my opportunity.

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[Michael]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Joe]

Don't be.

[Michael]

Don't be mad at me.

[Ocho]

I'm not gonna be mad.

[Joe]

But listen, you can't be. Hey, you can't beat me in. You can't beat me in that. You can't beat me in the intro. You can't be me in the outro.

[Michael]

You can't be me.

[Ocho]

If I got it written in front

[Michael]

of me, I would definitely be too. Ocho. So you want. Oh, you want, you want. You want the intro on Friday?

[Ocho]

Listen, give me the intro on Friday and have it for me written out like he did. And watch what happened.

[Michael]

They ain't had nothing for me.

[Ocho]

Joe, I seen you put the intro up funny before you started.

[Joe]

Ask.

[Michael]

Ask.

[Joe]

Did they? They ain't Send me nothing, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Hey, you think I'm a fool, boy? I was born at night. I was born at night.

[Joe]

I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you the truth.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you ate a lot. Don't care who.

[Michael]

Tell him what? Ocho, he really didn't know he was. Was supposed to be doing it because he was like. And I just told him, hey, Joe, you got the intro now? I don't know if he had one. I know. Hey, we didn't send him anything.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Ocho]

You saw him put the clipboard right in front of him, right? He got the portier, he got the laporte. Strip it all down, like.

[Michael]

Come on, man.

[Ocho]

What.

[Joe]

What are we talking about?

[Michael]

Listen, listen, listen, listen.

[Joe]

After yesterday, after that happened, when they sprained it on you, I said, boy, look, I'd rather be prepared for an opportunity than to be unprepared for an opportunity.

[Ocho]

I like mine better because mine was authentic and organic without no script.

[Joe]

I said, hey, I gave your props.

[Michael]

I said, yours. Mine was just. You know what yours is.

[Joe]

Okay? Mine.

[Michael]

I'm gonna put it to the boat chat. Who had the best intro. Ocho, come on, man.

[Ocho]

Hey, you put it to the chat. Of course they're gonna say here's better because he's scripted.

[Michael]

I'm off the top. Hell, he know it.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. When you could. Hey. When you go off the dome with no help, then let me know.

[Joe]

Damn. Hey, don't get mad at me, bro.

[Ocho]

Hey, what a man for. Hey, you. Hey, you need. You need to help. You need to help. You. You put. I didn't need help.

[Joe]

Y' all put that back on quarterback, y'.

[Michael]

All.

[Joe]

Let me get some reps. Your ass in trouble.

[Michael]

You hear me, Ocho? So you go ahead and prepare. You got the intro on Friday night.

[Ocho]

But listen, this is the thing. One thing about it. If you give me a script and it's in front of me and I'm reading it, and I. And I could be animated, he gonna lose it. They didn't get me. Let me finish.

[Michael]

They didn't get.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. Let me tell you something. Hey, when you want to talk, raise your hand. I'll call on you, okay? Hey, hey, Unc, you know how I am. Especially when you. When it come to me being on camera and you give me a script, he gonna lose regardless, because that's what I do.

[Joe]

Would you tell this man, oh, we

[Michael]

did not send Joe a script. We did not send him a script we wrote. Honestly, I tell you.

[Ocho]

I tell you this. He looked at the intro and wrote everything down. I tell you that. He said the same things you say verbatim in his words. So what we talking about on the.

[Michael]

Oh, my goodness.

[Ocho]

And still,

[Michael]

I mean, he got the po. It's a premium dre. Like an exo. Hey, hey, hey.

[Ocho]

I'm about he word for word. I'm like, what the hell?

[Michael]

Hey, I want to thank you guys for your eyes, ears, and your word of mouth. Hey.

[Ocho]

Matter of fact.

[Michael]

Hey. Oh, he been listening. Because all this is. We did. We. We never had a script. So even when I do the club Shay Sha. It ain't no script. That's just me. And over the years, you just remember. Yeah. So I tell you what. Hey, listen, she said no.

[Ocho]

You just go, hey, listen, tomorrow. I mean, Friday, when we come Friday, right?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna do the intro. I'm gonna change the intro completely.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I' ma still talk about laportier.

[Michael]

It's your. It's your intro. You do it how you.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, now I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be. I'm gonna show you how it's supposed to be.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't give a damn what you do. Give me my damn credit that.

[Michael]

You gotta give credit, though. Ocho. It was a good one. Now, come on, now.

[Ocho]

It was good. Okay, I get to him. Hey. One to ten. It was a five.

[Joe]

Oh, man. Get the hell out of here.

[Michael]

One to ten.

[Ocho]

It was A5.

[Joe]

Get the hell out of here.

[Ocho]

Listen, it wasn't authentic, and it wasn't organic. You just re. You was. You was regurgitated with uncle already say so, man.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Michael]

All the little.

[Joe]

The stuff I gave you my partner

[Michael]

near my player partner.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Michael]

One.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. One to ten, I give you a six. Then I give you a six.

[Michael]

Oh, the chat. The chat said the chat giving eyesore 10. The staff gave him a 10, too. Oo. So you got your work cut out for you tomorrow.

[Joe]

Oo. Oo.

[Michael]

I said they pay you for your

[Joe]

feet, not your hands.

[Ocho]

I know because I. I said. I said. I said that. Yeah, on yesterday's show, Joe. So you just added that to it? I said that yesterday, Joe. Hey, See now. Hey, one thing about it. Don't never let me get in my creative bag, because I'm be in my bag Monday on Friday. Friday, Friday night. It's gon.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. I know you know one damn thing. I'm paying attention, so I hope so,

[Ocho]

yeah, hey, hey, I'm coming out. I' ma have smoking.

[Michael]

All

[Ocho]

y' all laughing and I'm half smoking all in my intro. Hey, remember. Hey, remember how Drusky had the. Remember how Jersey had the fireworks for the Erica Kirk thing?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That's how my intro gonna be.

[Michael]

Oh, my goodness. I mean, he had it down. Say, please. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please hit the.

[Joe]

Like,

[Michael]

We can take some time off. Oh, Joe got it. Joe got it.

[Joe]

I got y' all telling you. Hey, look, that's how I was trying to show y'.

[Commercial Announcer]

All.

[Joe]

I want to try to show you up, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you can't show me up, boy. This me.

[Joe]

Look, look, here you go. I thought we were having real conversation.

[Ocho]

I'm just letting you know this me. Are we gonna have a conversation when we hit that court?

[Joe]

Hey, hey, y'. All, I'm in tears just thinking about that, boy. Hey.

[Michael]

Oh, man. But I feel bad because I. You know, look, LeBron was. LeBron and Drake were close. They hung out together, you know, and, you know, LeBron used to get. I mean, when Drake drops, Drake would drop something. Obviously, LeBron would get an opportunity to listen to it first. I don't. I don't know. I just.

[Joe]

Hey, man, you know, hey, them beefs go far, too, man. You know? Hey, hey, if I'm beefing with somebody and you. And you play a partner with him.

[Commercial Voice]

Hold on.

[Joe]

I'm gonna look at you sideways.

[Michael]

Sure. I'm. I gotta cut out everybody back. So the best thing is.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

If somebody beefing, just go ahead and stay up out of it.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Michael]

You got to. Yeah, for sure.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

You think I'll let somebody got a problem with Ocho and. Hey, man. And do you? No. Whoa.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. Matter of fact, you know what's funny, too, Joe? When you think about it, if there's anybody in the world that really don't like me, no matter what, that says more about them, as opposed to me. I'm a very. Hey, Joe. I'm a very likable person.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You hear me?

[Joe]

Yeah, you are.

[Michael]

You know, you don't say that. You won't criticize. You ain't gonna say that bad about nobody.

[Ocho]

No, no, I've been getting better. I've been getting better.

[Michael]

No, no, you getting better. But I'm saying even. Even then. Yeah, they like, man, because even when you say something, people gonna think. They're gonna think, well, he just doing that for the show. He just doing that for clicks. And they don't realize that's look, that's my honest assessment.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And you know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Me to say to, Even for me to say something critical, I gotta really sincerely, genuinely believe that, bro. I need, I need you to give me better than that. Yeah. So if Ocho criticize you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michael]

I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you what it is. It is. Hold on. TI Rapper, when does TI Album come out?

[Joe]

Oh, it's probably gonna come out soon.

[Ocho]

It say it come out on the 15th too.

[Michael]

Damn.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm gonna see what the King talking about.

[Michael]

I mean, but even if Drake album is good, you think people gonna give him the credit that he deserves?

[Joe]

It depends on like he, hey, it's

[Michael]

gonna have to be a monster.

[Joe]

No, I think it's gonna be good. I, I, I enjoy all the work that he's pretty much done, but I think he knows he, he probably wants to over deliver in this TI Album

[Michael]

come out in September.

[Ocho]

Nah, it come. No, it's a on the 14th.

[Michael]

Nah, I say September.

[Ocho]

Oh, September 4th. Okay.

[Michael]

Yeah. September 25th.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael]

Maybe he got him maybe dropping another single. Boy, they, they. That, that one he dropped. Boy, they play that. They keep that thing on. Tick tock.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael]

Geez. Yeah.

[Joe]

Welcome to the checker flag running through the ring.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, well, look, Drake, I mean, look, Drake been at the top for about 10, 15 while we playing. At least.

[Joe]

I'm talking about strong.

[Ocho]

You're on a good run.

[Joe]

Oh, he don't really miss too, too much. No, I ain't really seen the miss. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm looking forward to this album.

[Michael]

Yeah, I mean, he got, I mean, look, I, I don't know. I met him one time. He was great to me. Hey, man, love you on Undisputed, man. Keep up the great work. Boom. That was it. I, I don't know. I don't know the man like that. I don't. You know, I listen to rap here and there, you know, I'm more of an old school type of guy. You know, I still listen to the old school rap, dedicated Tupac big and stuff like that. But.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Chad, Chad, y' all bear with me. I'm gonna try to see if I can get him as one of my guests when I take over. When the ISO take.

[Michael]

Oh, you gonna get Drake.

[Joe]

I got, I got pretty. I got a decent relationship with him. I'm gonna see if I can get him on.

[Michael]

I'm gonna get him on. I come up. Can I come on oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Ojo, can we. Come on, we can be g. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, when I go on vacation. But I'm on vacation. But word.

[Michael]

Oh, you know, hey, we gonna have

[Joe]

a. Oh, we gonna have a. We gonna have a good time.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna be in the chat. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna be some. With my feet kicked up with. With a. With a. With a. With a pinoc colado.

[Joe]

With a. My tie. Who A ma.

[Michael]

My feet won't be top shelf. My feet won't be kicked. I'll be somewhere. I'll be somewhere. I'm gonna take a vacation, guys. You know what? I'm gonna really take some time. I'm gonna really get away. I'm gonna dec. I'm gonna decompress. I'm gonna turn. I'm gonna put my phone on dnd.

[Joe]

We're gonna lose his mind with his phone on D and D.

[Michael]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But ain't nothing worse than the plane not having WI fi.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, listen, depending on how far you going, if you're going over water, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a little short period

[Michael]

coming back from New York or Jersey. That's six hours coming back to Vegas.

[Ocho]

No wife.

[Michael]

Hey, man, I remember. I got. I said, man, I tell this lady, this flight attendant, she said, here, you can use my pass. You sleep like you. You real irritable. I said, can I use your phone? Can I use your WI fi? She gave me her WI fi code and everything.

[Ocho]

Hey, yeah, not having WI fi hurt, boy.

[Michael]

Especially if.

[Ocho]

If you're not sleepy and it's a long flight. Anything over three hours and you ain't

[Michael]

got no w. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael]

Hey, I'll be flying from. From Vegas to la and it'd be killing me.

[Joe]

That's why I try. I try to sleep. Pretty much the flight.

[Michael]

Hey, D. Jordan be sleep. He don't even be on the face. Jordan be sleep. I ain't never seen nobody sleep like that. Jordan sleep like a six year old. He sleeps from the location to the airport. He get on the plane, knock down back there. George got his hoodie on.

[Ocho]

Hey, that mean Jordan like, he be snoring. Hey, hey, Jordan, like when you have kids, you know when you got kids that are young.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, you put them in a car when you. You can't get them to go to sleep, put in the car and drive around. Driving around the corner real quick.

[Michael]

I think he got narcolepsy.

[Joe]

Hey, hold on. I'm gonna Tell y' all something. That's me. I'll be asleep for the plane take off.

[Michael]

I'm talking about gone up, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'll be out of there. Hey, look, I use them flights to give me some rest because that's it. Seemed like the flight go by a lot quicker when you sleep if you ain't slee seem like the flight long.

[Michael]

Hey, you know it does.

[Joe]

You coming from.

[Michael]

I mean, cuz we went. You. We went to can be Ash, Shelly, whoever's on the flight with us. Just me, you and Shelly, right? And Jamie. I stayed the whole while ass tried to sleep. Now you ain't going to sleep. I can't sleep. I did every time she try to sleep, I let her get that thing good sleep. She. Hey, Ash, let me ask you something. I forgot what it was that day. My bad. I remember.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, I flew from Atlanta to Vegas. You know, it's probably what, about four? Four? Yeah, man, I'm talking about out of there before the plane took off. Look, the stool she steady tapping on me.

[Ocho]

She.

[Joe]

She been tapping on me five minutes trying to wake me up. And I need you to put your seatbelt on.

[Michael]

Damn. Oh, that's what I do. I put that on. Hey, I go ahead and put that on. Cause that's the one thing I be sitting straight up because I don't want. Because I. Oh, now you talking about like my grandma. You say, boy, hell flew all through me. That'd be dead sleeping there with me about a seatbelt to bring the seat up.

[Joe]

Oh, man, but I need you to let your seat. I need you to let your seat up. We ain't took a wing. We ain't. Come on, man. I just got it back a tad bit. I just need a little lean in there.

[Ocho]

I don't sleep and I. I feel bad for people, especially when I'm in public. If you sit next to me on the plane, especially in the exit row. Well, you better be ready to talk. You better be ready to talk. No, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I'm a Yappa boy. I'm talking about. I don't know you. I'm gonna ask, you know, where you from, how you doing? It has your family. Do you like sports? Yeah, but yo, why talk your head off? Random strangers. Random strangers. Why I. By the time we land, I'm gonna know everything about you from A to Z.

[Michael]

I'll be out of there most of the time. I mean, the only time like Shelly will fly. But Shelly don't sleep. So she constantly, you know, tapping Me. But most of the time, if I fly with somebody, it's gonna be either Shelly, my sister, or Kayla. Yeah. Ash, you know, but see, Ash, obviously, she don't say nothing when I be bringing back the food. When I bring back the shrimp or I bring back the short ribs, she ain't got no problem. Be waking up then.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And everybody looking at her like, well, how you get that now? She ain't got no problem. She ain't got no problem. Wake me up. Because, you know, now they don't cut out the food service. I mean, what, 350 miles? Anything less than 350, you don't get nothing. In the back. In the back.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Nice. Damn. For what? Man, did you see the price of them tickets? Nacho and oo.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm glad I ain't got the guy. I ain't got to go.

[Michael]

My sister coming out in three weeks.

[Ocho]

How much was it?

[Michael]

Four weeks, a month.

[Ocho]

How much was it?

[Michael]

Two.

[Ocho]

Two what? 200. 2,000.

[Michael]

Hey, and, and, and she flying. She don't. She, I don't, I don't think she flying.

[Ocho]

She.

[Michael]

Well, she got to go to what you call them. She got like two or three stops, right?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. It's hard, boy. It's hard to fly.

[Ocho]

Well, that's, that's crazy. Well, I'm sure at some point the prices will go back down. 2500.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Michael]

Yeah. How much you think your flight was to fly for? For wwe. OO.

[Ocho]

Oh, shoot. I don't know how much it was. Huh?

[Michael]

Yeah. 25 Hyundai.

[Ocho]

It was what?

[Michael]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah, y' all gota hey, you let me, Let me, Let me book my own stuff.

[Michael]

No, we a let you book nothing. Hey, we go to. We gotta make sure you get your ass here. We're not letting you book anything.

[Ocho]

I, I, I get, I get that for the least, least price possible. I don't care if I gotta have two, three stops.

[Michael]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now, my sister.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Michael]

My sister can have a couple of stops because she ain't on no schedule. Oh, no. You getting direct?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying. I'm trying to save y' all money, man. You know that. That's all I'm about.

[Michael]

Well, I'm gonna take your. I'm gonna put your freaking flybys. I'm gonna get your freaking fly miles. Hey, you know what? I tell you what you do. If you stop smoking them people hotel room. I greatly appreciate that, cuz. They kill him. They kill him.

[Ocho]

By what you call for Real?

[Michael]

What you mean for Joe? This man talk about for real.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's a charge, bro. When they.

[Michael]

When they.

[Joe]

Hey, you think you smoking on the low?

[Ocho]

When people don't know when I smoked in the. In the hotel. Oh, you talking about out there, Ro.

[Michael]

Every hotel room you go to at the wind.

[Ocho]

Okay, just that time. Okay. I mean, most of the time, that.

[Michael]

Definitely. Some other times. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Okay. I got you. I got you.

[Michael]

If you. If you want. If you on ESPN or a Netflix.

[Ocho]

Dime.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, okay. I got you. I got you.

[Michael]

A Shay shit me today. Please go outside. Please, please go outside.

[Ocho]

I got you. I got you.

[Michael]

Yeah. And you know, now you know how the airlines are. The prices ain't never going back down.

[Joe]

Oh, no, sir.

[Michael]

They have to hold on. They thinking about Frontier. Frontier thinking about they might have to close that door. So now with less competition, how are you going to get from point A to point B?

[Ocho]

Hey, but see, this is the funny thing about it. If they want to play that game now, certain people are going to have. Certain people are going to have to stop flying. But you're going to see, everybody can't afford those tickets, especially not in this economy. So what's going to happen? They're going to be forced, Joe, to make the prices affordable. At some point, you have to. Everybody can't afford. Everybody can't afford to fly like that.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, you right. But I just had to book a couple flights to Minnesota for next month for my daughter's volleyball tournament. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Caused me a few grand.530 because I

[Michael]

book a month in advance. I don't book my mama ticket. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. I was gonna bring the fam out there. I looked at them damn ticket price. I said, hold on, it's just gonna be me and baby girl.

[Michael]

Oh, no, no. But hey, they going up. I mean, hey, a family. Yeah, family of four. You gotta fly first class. It's gonna cost you about 11, 12,000. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So. But guess what? We gotta fly. I mean, that's. And I'm. I'm back and forth. I mean, I'm back and forth from Vegas to la. I mean, we. Hey, at least once.

[Joe]

Hey, so when we get in the nightcap plane.

[Ocho]

Hey, that would be crazy, man. You know, God, God, God probably gonna bless us. We'll be able to have our own private jet. Yeah. And we, you know, we. We have it. Have it wrapped with the nightcap sign.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm telling you. Listen, I'm telling you, I'M telling you. I'm telling you, I. I know the way the man upstairs work. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. But y', all, you know how much

[Michael]

it take to operate a player, don't. Yo, I don't think you have any idea how much.

[Ocho]

I talked to Ross. I know how much it costs. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, gonna get us one.

[Michael]

And you see the fuel prices are going up.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Somebody I know somebody. Hey, I got my homeboy, right? He work at the Opalaka Airport. You know, most of the private planes fly at Opalaka Airport. I can get his gas. I can get his fuel for the low.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. He oversee the shipments that come in. I got some stuff need to come through there.

[Ocho]

Depending on what it is. Long as I get a percentage now

[Michael]

bad look here, I'm gonna do the best I can to make sure you guys fly first class and not have to buy comfort.

[Ocho]

Hey, let me tell you something. When we have something to do, you do not have to put me in first class. Just sit. Put me in the exit row. But I need the window seat. If I don't have the window seat, I'd be pissed off. I don't need. I don't need no first class. I don't need all that.

[Michael]

I mean, but when you bring. When you bring what you call them Cambodia. Hey, Cal, Bony ain't gonna want to sit back there.

[Ocho]

She ain't got no choice, boy. First class. I mean, we don't. Hey, we.

[Michael]

I don't.

[Ocho]

I don't. We ain't like that. We ain't like that. You know, we. We content. Exit road just fine.

[Michael]

I'll keep that in mind.

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