Nightcap Hour 1: USA ADVANCES to Round of 16 + Harry Kane CARRIES England Past Congo + Golden Boot RACE Heating Up + Boston Celtics TRADE Jaylen Brown to Sixers

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: USA Advances, Harry Kane’s Heroics, World Cup Golden Boot Race & Blockbuster NBA Trade

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This episode, hosted by Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe Johnson, is packed with instant, unfiltered reactions to a fiery night of summer sports—covering the USA’s high-stakes World Cup progression, Harry Kane’s clutch performance for England, the heated Golden Boot race, and the seismic Boston Celtics trade sending Jaylen Brown to the Sixers. The trio digs deep into game strategy, sporting culture, and the emotion behind blockbuster deals, always keeping the conversation lively and personal.

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1. USA Advances to World Cup Round of 16: Drama, Red Cards, and What’s Next

• Timestamps: 06:47—19:19

US Victory Over Bosnia

• The crew kicks things off with high praise for the US Men’s National Team, who won 2-0 against Bosnia to advance to the Round of 16.
  • “I believe that we did win. I believe that we did win. But FIFA, y’all on some bull man. Red card on Balad.” (Joe Johnson, 07:11)
• Major focus is on Florian Balogun, who scored and was then controversially sent off.
  • Ochocinco explains: “Most of the time, anytime your spikes are up… nine times out of ten, they gonna call that a red card. Now, I didn’t agree with it… but the way the rule book is… they gonna get that card, man, nine times out of ten, Joe.” (Chad Ochocinco, 08:22)

Game Analysis

• The team riffs on the psychology and tactics of closing out a big game, criticizing Bosnia’s collapse and discussing how to “stall it out” and run out the clock.
  • “I’d have been playing nothing at my end. I kick it to the goalie. Hey, you throw it back at me. I kick it back at you…” (Joe Johnson, 11:19)
  • “Put it in four corners…stall game!” (Joe Johnson & Uncle Joe, 12:18)

Balogun’s Record and Suspension

• Balogun becomes just the third player ever to both score and receive a red card in a World Cup knockout match (joining Zinedine Zidane and Ronaldinho).
  • “Balagun will now miss the round of 16 due to [red card].” (Joe Johnson, 13:52)
• Ochocinco is unbothered: “If Senegal could do what they did to Belgium today, I guarantee the US will be able to do the same thing.” (Chad Ochocinco, 14:09)

Looking Ahead

• The USA next face Belgium in Seattle, missing Balogun but relying on other stars: “Now we got Ricardo Pepe… Pulisic… he can score from anywhere on the pitch.” (Chad Ochocinco, 14:26)

Celebrating Soccer Talent

• Ochocinco shouts out Mexico’s 17-year-old star, Gilberto Mora: “He like Kyrie with the feet, but he like that with the ball at his feet. Controlling the whole midfield, Joe.” (Chad Ochocinco, 17:35)

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2. Harry Kane Carries England Past Congo & Sets Up Titantic Clash with Mexico

• Timestamps: 18:18—21:13

England vs. DR Congo Highlight

• England trailed 1-0 at half, but Kane scored twice late to deliver victory.
  • “Just all-around great defense from the Congo… but then Harry Kane happened with two goals.” (Joe Johnson, 18:18)
  • “Harry Kane now has 72 goals for club and country this season.” (Joe Johnson, 18:18)
• Upcoming England vs. Mexico game is compared to a classic underachievers matchup in basketball:
  • “England… every time it really counts they always come up short.” (Chad Ochocinco, 19:37)
  • “So, Duke versus Mexico… Nicks and Spurs, that's it.” (Chad Ochocinco, 20:16)

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3. World Cup Golden Boot Race: The Fastest Feet in Soccer

• Timestamps: 21:54—29:31

Race Breakdown

• Joe runs down the leading scorers: “Mbappe has six goals, two assists. Harry Kane, five goals, zero assists. Erling Haaland, five goals, zero assists. Dembélé, four goals, two assists, Vini Jr., four goals, one assist.” (Joe Johnson, 26:08)
• Ocho picks his favorite: “Honestly, I got Mbappe, Uncle. At any moment, he can get… loose, Joe. He’s basically Tyreek Hill, but with the ball at his feet.” (Chad Ochocinco, 26:35 & 27:52)
• Discussion of player tracking tech and athletic demands: “How much running you think the guy is doing in a soccer game, bro?...That’s a lot of damn running they doing out there, boy.” (Uncle Joe, 28:11)

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4. NBA Shockwaves: Boston Celtics Trade Jaylen Brown to Philadelphia

• Timestamps: 29:46—66:47

Initial Reaction to Trade

• Joe drops the breaking news: “Boston Celtics have agreed to trade Jalen Brown to the Philadelphia 76ers for Paul George, two first round picks, two second round picks.” (Joe Johnson, 29:46)
• Lively debate about the motivation and logic for the gamble, with salary cap implications and locker room dynamics at the forefront.

Was the Trade Inevitable?

• “For him to get traded, it doesn’t surprise me, Uncle Ocho, but to send him to Philly for Paul George… Boston’s trying to save some money to some degree.” (Uncle Joe, 30:53)
• “They really didn’t want to deal with Jaylen Brown stuff, bro. Considering all the things he said, they took an opportunity to get up off of him.” (Uncle Joe, 31:45)
• The guys outline how the Jaylen- Tatum dynamic became the team’s “1A/1B” dilemma, which the front office quietly decided long ago.
  • “The player always knows before everybody else. His house been up for sale? The writing was already on the wall.” (Chad Ochocinco, 35:09)

Impact for Sixers and Celtics

• Debate: Can Embiid adapt to share the ball with another high-usage star?
  • “He a ball-stopper. I think he gonna have to change his game more than anybody—Embiid—because… if he can’t be no ball stopper where it’s messing up the rhythm.” (Uncle Joe, 40:26)
• Ocho remains optimistic: “Maxi and JB can do what they need to do… Even if Embiid don’t give you 60, you still got Maxi and JB.” (Chad Ochocinco, 41:58)
• Parallels are drawn to classic NFL receiver duos to explain how star pairings can work: “Think about Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce. Think about Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. Now, we’ve seen duos that operate and have 1,300 apiece.” (Chad Ochocinco, 43:11)

Boston’s Front Office Philosophy

• “They ain’t really trying to go in that second apron. The objective isn’t a business: I’m gonna spend as little as I possibly can to make as much as I possibly can. So having two $300 million dollar guys on my payroll—that ain’t really conducive for business.” (Joe Johnson, 38:47)
• Notable Quote: “If you leave your girl, you expecting somebody to replace her—she gotta be just as good, just as fine, could cook just as well and put it down in the sheets!” (Joe Johnson, 33:34)

Aftermath & Reflections

• The crew questions Boston's judgment, particularly trading a Finals MVP to a direct rival.
  • “Celtics don’t hold him in very high regard. Ain’t no way in hell I’m trading a guy that was in the MVP discussion the whole year… to one of our better rivals.” (Joe Johnson, 47:36)
• They joke about organizational spin—how suddenly Derrick White (not Jaylen Brown) is Boston’s “real” best player.
  • “They trying to be funny, Joe… They trying to turn into a comedy show.” (Chad Ochocinco & Uncle Joe, 68:03)
• On Jalen Brown’s legacy in Boston: “Nobody has ever questioned my dedication, my love, my purpose for the game. Yet everything that comes out about in Boston, my name is attached to it.” (Joe Johnson, 61:13)

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5. Athletes with a Microphone: Modern Sports Media and Authenticity

• Timestamps: 75:42—79:03

• The group praises the rise of athlete-led podcasts, crediting them for giving players direct control of their stories.

  • “The mainstream media… always controlled the perception to the masses. They control everything because we didn’t have a voice… Now, we done cut the middleman out. You come right to the horse’s mouth.” (Chad Ochocinco, 77:23)

• Cautionary tales about ‘speaking with emotion’ and the risks of going live: “That could be a gift and a curse, though… when you get on here pissed off, you go to saying something that you can’t recant.” (Uncle Joe, 77:11)

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6. Notable Quotes & Signature Moments

• On Balogun’s Red Card:
  “Once you get that red card, you have to miss the next game.” (Chad Ochocinco, 13:57)

• On England’s Mentality:
  “Who’s a really good basketball team but they underachieve every time it really counts? That would be England.” (Chad Ochocinco, 19:37)

• On the Celtics’ Loyalty:
  “The Celtics don’t hold him in very high regard. Ain’t no way in hell I’m trading a guy that was in the MVP discussion…the whole year…to one of our better rivals.” (Joe Johnson, 47:36)

• On Authentic Player Voices:
  “You got to be a truth teller. Anything that comes out of your mouth, it has to be said truth based on your knowledge… Jalen Brown is one of the few players that can get away with it because he gonna tell it like it is.” (Chad Ochocinco, 73:56)

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Engagement & Atmosphere

• The podcast maintains a fast, conversational vibe—riffing between sincere, technical sports talk and playful, barbershop banter.
• The trio’s bonds and lived experience as athletes bring an authenticity that’s both informative and highly entertaining.

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Episode Takeaways

• USA marches on despite a red card, with Balogun making painful World Cup history—now all eyes turn to Belgium.
• England’s clutch gene (or lack thereof) is called out as Kane pulls them through.
• The Golden Boot race is white-hot, with Mbappe, Kane, and others vying for the throne; Mbappe gets Tyreek Hill comps.
• The Celtics-Sixers trade could redefine the East—with Boston opting for change, Philly loading up on talent, and Jaylen Brown’s reputation put under the microscope.
• Player empowerment on podcasts is here to stay—athletes now cut out the media middleman to tell their own truths, risks and all.

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For those who missed it:
This episode delivers sharp takes, inside knowledge, and lively storytelling on the biggest sports stories of the summer—all with classic Nightcap flavor.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Unc. Most of the time, anytime your spikes are up and I know it's. I know it's all one movement, both of them joshing for the ball, but nine times out of ten, they gonna call that a red card. Now, I didn't agree with it. I'm sure y' all didn't agree with it when you actually saw it happen. But the way the rule book is, and you know, you know them boy and got them studs on, on, so you. You know how the ref looks at them once they slow it down. You know, it's. They. They. They gonna get that card, man, nine times out of ten, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, we moving on. They give us whatever they want to live in America.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Guess what I told him? I said, you know what? Y' all did that old slick stuff, but we got something for you, boy. Hey, Tillman, that thing was so sweet. I was like, bro, that's as hard as you gonna kick it. Cause I'll be trying to bust somebody in the face with it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you got. You gotta understand in that moment. That's. And when you have a. When you have a free kick like that and it's a set piece, you notice the Bosnian players standing 10 yards away from the ball. So the whole point be that close, right outside the 18, Joe, you want to touch it. You want to hit it. Like shooting the free throw, Joe, you want to put the right. The right amount of touch on it and curl the ball over the wall and away from the goalie.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

He made it look easy.

[Uncle Joe]

But I tell y' all what I know, I'm going to give me a baligon jersey. Hey, that boy nice.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I already got. I got one order. Mine should be here any day now. Florian Baligun.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, you talking about a guy who knows how to play in a crowd. Use his body shield. People, I'm talking about. And get his off. Oh, man. Hey, listen, look, I was so intrigued, bro. Every time he touched the ball, it seemed like something good was gonna happen. But damn, he was wanting a red flag. The way he can't come back once

[Chad Ochocinco]

you get that red. That's like getting your second tech in the NBA, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

But listen, flagrant, too. You got to go. They were both going for the ain't.

[Uncle Joe]

Like he tried to hurt the man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's the. That's the rule.

[Joe Johnson]

Remind me of myself when I was younger. One thing I know, I'll go get mine off. We already know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There you go, Joe. Every five. Hey, we five minutes into the show. Hey, she's shooting him already.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, you are who you are.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you are he definitely number one. Hey, you know what? Now I'm curious. I'm curious who we play next.

[Joe Johnson]

We got Belgium.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Belgium. Hey, Listen, today they rob. They robbed Senegal. Yeah, they robbed Senegal. That match, that Senegal's fault. You up 2. 2. 2 nil, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

In the 85th.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In the 85th minute, Joe. Only 10 minutes to go in the game, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Facts.

[NBC News Announcer]

Facts.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they lost.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I took the wheels off. I'd have took the engine out where this car ain't moving. Hey, O. Joe. I'd have been playing. I'd been playing nothing at my end. I kick it to the goalie. Hey, you throw it back at me. I kick it back at you, you throw it back at me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'll be wasting time as much as possible, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen, that's what don't make sense. It's like, how can you lose a game within minutes, bro? Hey, you know what I'm saying? Being up. What are you not being cautious? Ocho, what are you doing? You take a chance.

[Joe Johnson]

Too many.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, listen, 88. I mean, it's a lot of game to play. Even on the. In the 85th minute, you still want to play. You want to play, you know, you want to keep the ball as much as you can, you know, pass it around. Having short, small sequences, which is, you know, just. Just like running. Not running a play, but sequences is you just having possession of the ball. And you want to do that as much as possible. Once that team pressures you, you. You have no choice but to get the ball out of there and put it in their half and force him to play from their half to yours. And they. They just. They just happen to get two goals, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

OO. I'mma put it in terms that OO could understand. Put it in four corners. You remember back in the day. Oh, Joe, you put it in four corners.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, stall them out. Stall, stall. Hey, hey, hey. We call it stall game D. Unless

[Joe Johnson]

we get a back door layup. Don't you shoot that damn ball, boy. Oh, man, I remember them days back. Hey, unless there's a layup, unless you. Somebody got a back door. Don't you shoot that ball.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm with you. Hey, I'm glad they got the. The damn shot clock in nowadays, boy. Cause we lost a couple games behind teams holding the damn ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe. Oh, we hold the ball four, five minutes we'll get later. Hey, they. Hey, y' all boo all you want to, but we about to get this too, right? Oh, you're gonna have to file us.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Florida Balagun. That's notched the goal at the 45th minutes to make the score one nothing comes to Battlegood had a goal recall earlier in the halfside. Damn. We had one. Take them back. Yeah, we got another goal. Taken back to my. Ran over the goalie bell. The third player to score three plus goal in the US in the World Cup. Balagon has shown straight red car file on Tarek. I don't want to butcher that man name Balagun. Foot caught the ankle of the Bosnian defender as he landed after challenging for a header. Var recommended the check. Referee went to the monitor and gave Balaguna red card. Florian Balagun is the third player to score a goal and get a red car in the same World cup in a knockout stage. Florian Balagun did it, Zenadine Zadon did it and Ronaldinho did it. Balagun will now miss the round of 16 due to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

So he out the next game.

[Uncle Joe]

Man, get out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

O Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, you can't get a red card. Once you get a red card, you have to miss. You have to miss the next game.

[Uncle Joe]

It's egregious enough that hell, he had to miss the rest of this game. You mean? Tell me he can't play the next game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's all right though. I. I don't mean no disrespect to the belt to Belgium. I don't mean to be the disrespectful to the Belgium fans. But if, if, if. If Senegal could do what they did to Belgium today, I guarantee the US will be able to do the same thing.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't like these.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't fret now. We still have scores. Now we got Ricardo Pepe. Huh? You saw what Tillman did today. Hey, and goddamn Pulisic. Pulisic. Hey, he could. He can score from anywhere on the pitch. So we. We gonna be good. We're gonna be good. Even though Baligon's not playing.

[Joe Johnson]

But guess what the. The but we'll have. We'll be even up. We won't be a man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So we won't be playing at a decided disadvantage. Down. It didn't matter. Malik Tillman with a perfect free kick put the US up 2. 0. US will play Belgium on Monday. Monday in Seattle in the round 15. When this we going to eight.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's all the way in Seattle and that's a long flight. I'm going to a. Hey, Joe. I'm going to the Argentina Cape Verde game. I think It's. It's on July 3rd.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, we.

[Uncle Joe]

Where is?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah. Friday right here at the Hard Rock.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, that thing gonna be jumping. Ain't a man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's gonna be nice.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, with the Argentine and the Cape Verde.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

what's up? Oh, yo, man, I don't want to have to fly. Take five hours to fly down there, man. Come on, Ocho, stall about. Hey, come on, man. Man, my knee.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, Joe, they gonna be like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't. Listen, I don't. I don't know if stadium said. I don't know how many. I don't know what the Hard Rock stadium said, but this is the thing. They playing Argentina. Argentina gonna take over anyway, so it's going to be hard. I don't know who the cameraman is. It's gonna be at the Argentina Cape Verde game, but the Argentine fans are going to take over the stadium. I'm. I'm telling you that all you're gonna see, all you see is white. That's it.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, they try. They travel well, boy. Argentina travel well, boy, the other country

[Joe Johnson]

might make me travel well. We know you'll go great. I know Argentina known for wool and I know cattle. Yeah, I know that. And I ain't looking for none of the. None of that chat. Oh, man, usa. That was a good game Balagoon did against Bosnia. Zined in Zidane in the final against Italy. And Ronaldinho in the quarters against England, man, damn, I would. I was like, man, I wonder. I wonder if he. If he got to miss the next game. I was like, damn.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I just thought he was missing it the rest of this game. Yeah, man, how much punishment you want

[Joe Johnson]

to give a guy?

[Uncle Joe]

The hell?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, matter of fact, and speaking of World Cup, Joe. I know, Uncle Joe, I know y'. All. Y' all might not have watched, but I. I have to show love to. Obviously, I have dual citizenship, obviously in the US but also Mexico as well. Who also won. They beat Ecuador. Haven't been Ecuador in a very, very long time. They're going to the round of 16 as well. Hey, Uncle Joe. They got a 17 year old that played for Mexico. 17 years old. And Joe playing on the world, playing

[Uncle Joe]

like that world stage.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And boy, he wanted the best in the world. Joe Gilbert. Yeah, Gilberto Mora.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he like a young family, huh, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm talking about like Kyrie with the feet, like with the hammer, but he liked that with the ball at his feet. Man, look, man, short man, E. Boy, he. He nice. He like 17 years old, controlling the whole midfield, Joe. So basically, he like the point guard for Mexico. He dictating the Pace. Calmer, calmer. Calm down. Oh, you want to speed it up. He speed it up man. Joe, to be that young playing on the big stage like this man in in front of all your fans at Azteca, man. Hey, Goodo Morrow. If you see this boy you the real deal. I need a jersey and autograph. He nice boy. He real nice.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I might check him out. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

But the USA is moving on thanks to a 2 nothing victory over Bosnia. Bosnia is done. We move on to the round of 16. We take on the Belgian who beat who came back and defeated Senegal. England defended defeated the democrat Democratic Republic of Congo. The Congo was one of at the half. England had plenty of chances but Congo goal was on fire and finished with the game with five saves. Just around just all around great defense from the Congo. Should I England for the first 75 minutes of the match but then Harry Kane happened with two goals. Kane passes Penley on World cup all time gold list. Harry Kane now has 72 goals for club and country. This season England won 515 and 17 World cup record when conceding first only when was in 1966 and they might have won it in 66 but anyway England was set to face Mexico in Mexico City on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's gonna be crazy boy. That's gonna be.

[Uncle Joe]

It's gonna be a good one Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey Joe. England and Mexico is basically in basketball terms let's

[Uncle Joe]

ah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who's a really good basketball team but they earned achieve every time it really counts. That would be England. Every time it really counts they always come up short.

[Uncle Joe]

Duke.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So Duke versus Mexico.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at all the. Oh Joe, look at all them number one overall picks. You go all the way back from Kyrie and Cooper Flag and Zion and they goon and boom. They got a hundred top five picks. Jason Tatum, Ingram, RJ Barrett, Jalen Johnson. Too many to name. They underachieve. Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let's go Nixon spurge Joe. That would be the equivalent of England and Mexico playing especially the Mexico team that's playing right now the way they playing the is the Nixon Spurs. So that's it. Hey, one game. It's only one game.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, that's gonna be. That's gonna be a good one then.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Especially when you get to the round of 16 like this. Every game is good. Every game is good. Is. It's unpredictable.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, question. You going to the game in Miami? You going by yourself?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, just me and the Mrs. To the Argentina game.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah just. I was. I seen Jimmy Butler was the last one too.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh yeah man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, I keep forgetting about how tall y' all is in person, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. So you need to watch your damn mouth.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I whoop Jimmy too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Now you need to just chill out. Just chill out. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You trying to go.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay. Okay. No, I was just asking. I was just asking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. I'm on my eighth game so far, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I done been to 8 games already. I just, I'm not trying to go back. I'm not trying to go back to the west coast, though. That's too far.

[Joe Johnson]

That's too far.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then in Seattle. Hey, I'm in Seattle. You know how far that, you know how long that Seattle flight is?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I do know how far it is.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Why you think, why you think I didn't signed with the Seahawks when I was a free agent, man? My kids, my kids. One in Florida, one in Atlanta. How man, please. A 10 year, a 10 or 11 year old flying that far by themselves.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, now I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I enjoy.

[Joe Johnson]

I enjoyed my mama pick you up. I sent my girlfriend to get you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I enjoyed them games. They. Hey, matter of fact tomorrow we got some, we got, we got some MOA games tomorrow.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. The Golden Boot race ties go to assist then fewer minutes played to share the half. Keelan Mbappe has six goals to assist.

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[Uncle Joe]

It's the rage bait.

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It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

6 Gold 0 assistants Harry Kane, 5 Go 0 assists. Erling Holland 5 Go 0 assists. Dembele 4 goals, 2 assists. Vinnie Jr. 4 goals, 1 assist.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, who you got? This could be the greatest gold boot race in World Cup. Honestly, you got Mbappe, you got Messi, you got Kane, you got Holland and Belay and you got Benicius Jr.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Honestly, I got Mbappe, Uncle. I got Mbappe. Obviously, Messi scores at a high rate as well. But Mbappe, man, at any moment, he can get Luke Joe, he can get loose. And yeah, he's able to score in a multitude of ways, as is Messi. But just because of Mbappe and his pace and what he's able to do in finding space and, and being able to manipulate defenders and, and winning 1v1, I got MBappe probably winning that.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, he, he got a, A two, a two assist lead right now. The tide it goes. Kane also has five goals, but no assist. Holland has five goals, no assists. So he's at least three. He's three points up. He's two points up on Messi, he's three points up on Kane and Holland, and he's two points up on Dembele and he's three points up on Vinnie

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jr. And them boys good, they know how to find the back of that net, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you, you, you. Hey, you know, you've seen Mbappe open up on the field. On the field yet I saw him get.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he can run.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, he. He basically Tyreek Hill like. No, like, like dead ass.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he can run dead ass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's. He's basically Tyreek Hill, but he just able with the ball at his feet. He moved just like that. Same way. Quickness, agility, being able to go, you know, lateral movement, the same thing. He just, he's able to control the

[Joe Johnson]

man that Joe kick the ball and take our running. They can't keep up with him.

[Martha Stewart]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He put that ball in front.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it's a rap.

[Uncle Joe]

How much running you think the guy is doing in the soccer game, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it's a. Oh, Joe, that's a lot. You know, they got the. What you call them things. Hey, what you call them things they put on NFL players now you got to wear during the game that let you know how many miles you ran.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle Joe]

yeah, man, you all right. You got him a hostage tonight or something?

[Joe Johnson]

You know, a little something called them trackers.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They, they, you know, everybody. Everybody wear them trackers on.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, they track you how much you sweat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they got a vest underneath their jerseys.

[Uncle Joe]

You let them know how much they run, how many miles. I'll have to look that up, bro. I bet you it's a lot. Man, that's a lot of damn running they doing out there, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah. That big ass field. Hey, I would. Hey, I just want to stand back there in the back. I want to be right there, back next to the golden. Y' all go down there and handle that. I'll be right here when y' all get back. Hey, that's how I used to run out of gas.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, right there.

[Joe Johnson]

Poor that. Pull that can out the back. Hey, you and the boy go. You and the brother go down there, get that gas. Yeah, it's your car. You drive. You go get it. Hit the road. No, but if it's Congo. I thought you guys had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I thought they did too. Boy, that would have been dope, man.

[Joe Johnson]

But Harry, you know, Harry Kane, you know Rooney and Wayne Rooney or uh, that's who I mainly ran. Wayne Rooney and, uh. What's the other. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. It was some good games today.

[Joe Johnson]

The Boston. Hey, I don't think this surprised anybody. We talked about this the other night. But the shocking news of the day. The Boston Celtics have agreed to trade Jalen Brown to the Philadelphia 76ers for Paul George. Two first round picks, two second round picks. The Celtics are really originally was asking the Sixers to include VJ Edgecombe in the trade. Boston asking price on Brown continue to fall over the past few weeks until they accepted a deal centered around Paul George and picks Jalen Brown. Now check this out. The NBA has now traded Paul George for Shay Gilgis. Jay Jaylen Brown. The Montes Sabonas, Victor Oladipo, Denali, Gallinari. Seven first round picks, four pick swaps. Paul George has now become the most valuable player in NBA history. Joe, we had talked about this. We saw the writing on the wall that the Celtics was getting rid of Jalen Brown. And we. We're gonna get. We can go a little further depth. But when you heard this news, what our first thing that went through your

[Uncle Joe]

mind, man, you know what? As we've been talking about this lately, I'm like. With all these scenarios that's been coming out about Jalen Brown getting traded, I didn't really understand why. And for him to get traded, it doesn't surprise me, Uncle Ocho, but to send him to Philly for Paul George, obviously Boston's trying to save some money to some degree. You know what I mean? Knowing and understanding that Ocho. Yeah, we're gonna have to deal with the riff of trading him today, and we understand that, but hell, come next season, he gonna be looking to re up and get him another contract. And if we dealing with this now, we can't, you know, we, We. We can't continue to do business like that. So while he's hot, while he's still probably at his highest value, let's see what we can get for him. And I think they got. You know, I think it was a pretty even swap. For real. If you, if you just want me to keep it.

[Joe Johnson]

100 has even Joe with Paul Georgia, that injury history.

[Uncle Joe]

You get, you get, you what? You get two first round picks. Yeah, listen, listen, listen. And what. What Boston is looking for, okay. I don't want to have to. I don't want people to have to riff raffle between who's 1A and 1B and all that. This, this clearly. Listen, yeah. This clearly puts the pressure on Jason Tatum. Hell, without Jason Tatum, if Jalen Brown could lead us to a 3C, you know, we put some competent pieces around JT. Hey, a 2C. And we put some competent pieces around Jt him knowing. Knowing that he can lead us. I just think, man, they. They really didn't want to deal with Jalen Brown stuff, bro. Considering all the things that he said, they took an opportunity to be able to get up off of him. What you hope is that Paul George can be a consistent, valuable vet. You got. When I say consistent.

[Joe Johnson]

Last time that happened.

[Uncle Joe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. We ain't asking him to score no 22 and 25 points a night. A very efficient 16 to 18 points a night is pretty good, man. They got a lot of pieces. Look, did y' all forget that they went and got Mitchell Robinson from the Knicks?

[Joe Johnson]

I knew that was gonna happen.

[Uncle Joe]

So listen, once you start winning, what do teams do, Uncle Ocho? They start Picking off your damn players.

[Joe Johnson]

But I need you to answer me this. When was the last time Paul George was healthy enough to give you what you're asking from him?

[Uncle Joe]

I didn't think he played bad in

[Joe Johnson]

the post season, Joe. The man missed damn near 40 games.

[Uncle Joe]

But when he played. Hey, when his mind play bad, I'm saying when his. Listen, what I'm saying is we looking at what Paul George is making from a salary standpoint. He ain't get. He can't give you that. What are you making?

[Chad Ochocinco]

54.

[Uncle Joe]

What he gonna get?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. You traded Jalen Brown because you said you wanted to get off contract. Jalen Brown gave you without Jason Tatum. 29 points with Jason Tatum. He's giving you somewhere around 22. So I need somebody. Cause guess what, Joe? If you leave your girl, you expecting somebody to replace her. She gotta be just. Look, just as good, just as fine. Could cook just as well and put it down in the sheets.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

If she can't do all that, what am I trading for?

[Uncle Joe]

You wasn't gonna get nothing that was comfortable. You lost.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, look, look, look. I'mma keep with it.

[Uncle Joe]

Look, you threw him out there. He lost that on Giannis. So this was your backup plan? Hell, what else was you gonna do? You couldn't bring him back?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, what you know what problem was, is that you should have kept your mouth shut and let somebody come to you because you open your mouth. Everybody knew you wanted to get off on him. And they knew you gonna catch hell bringing him back after all this. Because no matter what the chat says and people say about the media, Jaylen Brown is a very smart individual.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

That man with the Caltech. Excuse me, Cal Berkeley.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He knows all this information coming out, it ain't from no media. Now, he get upset at the media that they're reporting it, but he knows it came from the Celtics. He knows that, and I think that's

[Chad Ochocinco]

one of the reasons.

[Joe Johnson]

So they know that he know that we can't bring him back. Because like you said, Brad, Steven said, we love Jason, we loved Jalen Brown, but that don't mean his ass safe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But listen this, you gotta understand. Jalen Brown with two steps ahead, two steps ahead of everybody else. How long has house been up for sale? How long have been up for sale?

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The right was on the wall.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That happened a long time ago. Obviously, the writing was already on the wall. And the player always knows before everybody else. Now, another thing where you know he was. He wouldn't go. You know, he Was leaving. And Jalen Brown continues to talk. He continues to fire back and go back and forth with certain people, especially, you know, the, the higher ups and positions of power who have a voice. He loved going back and forth with them. That's another tall tale. And sign that, you know what? I ain't going to be here anyway. So you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do what most NBA is playing don't do. I'm gonna go back and forth with him.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And again, Jason Tatum. Yes. They like him. Why do they like him? Because he's safe. He's safe. He's not gonna say much. Jalen Brown.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he ain't rocking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Brown, he's not safe. He's fun. He's entertaining.

[Joe Johnson]

He's a little.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But when it's time to play basketball, you know what you get? Joe, what you. Yeah, look at that boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Billy got one now Philly got one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, you said the writing was on the wall. Guess who was writing? The Celtics.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That'll drew a big old picture of Jayla Brown exiting, walking out the building.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Why everybody kept saying y', all, man. I remember when I was on Undisputed, they would get mad. We having a conversation. You guys are trying to break. Y' all trying to put them pit em against each other. No, the Boston Celtics are putting pitting them against each other. We're just talking about it. We're doing our job. Don't get mad at the messenger.

[Uncle Joe]

They had to pick a side.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But this is, this is the thing. Unc and Joe, they picked this out

[Joe Johnson]

a long time ago.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When you support a team, you always defend said team and the players that are on that team. And you're kind of blind to the fact of what the teams are trying to do internally. Me and you, we can see what they're doing. We know the noise coming from inside the house. We understand, oh, I see what they trying to do. You peep game. But as a fan, you blind. And if you blind, you really can't see it. You can't see what they trying to do. You just defend your place.

[Joe Johnson]

Not blind. The blindest person is the man that can't see. It's the blind that's choosing not to see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

The Celtics fan chose not to see because it was easy to blame. You know what the easiest thing to do is to blame someone else for your troubles. That is the easiest thing to do. So instead of saying, well, damn, why does this keep. Why does this keep coming out? What is this stuff about JB and jt, yada, yada, yada. What is this? It's easy to blame people that get on TV and talk for a living about it. Y' all making up story. I remember we was talking about it last year. Ocho, they talk about, must be a slow news day. It sped up in a hurry, didn't. It was slow. Now I, I ain't one of them guys to sit back, but I told you, Joe and I remember and I have this conversation. I said two 300 million dollar contracts, two. Jalen Brown is in line to get two years, 143 million extension as we sit here.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Jason Tatum is just what, in the second year over 300 million or 317. JB signed a 306. Yeah, he's due. He can sign a two year extension for 143. Nah, nah, nah, nah. And then reading a little bit about it, somebody was covered today. The guy that's the front of the face of the Celtic, really, he's the face of it, but he didn't put up the most money. He got a venture capitalist group and they got more control.

[Uncle Joe]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

We talked. I told you this, Ocho. Yeah, I understand talking about winning, winning, but they ain't really trying to go in that second apron. The objective isn't a business. I'm gonna spend as little as I possibly can to make as much as I possibly can. So having two 300 million dollar guys on my payroll, that ain't really conducive for business.

[Uncle Joe]

No, sir. It's hard to build a team out like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

This Jason Tate, how old? Jason Tatum, 27, 28.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so guess what? In a year, next year. Next year. Yeah. What are you gonna be looking for?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he finna re up again.

[Joe Johnson]

Two year extension. One. Yeah, I'm sure live.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

A year. Either next year 27 or 28, Jason Tat is gonna be right back. That's gonna be just in time to go to the event.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's gonna be dope. That's gonna be dope for him. I'm gonna hope. Hopefully, you know, God, God's grace, he stays healthy and comes back, you know, next season. Obviously being able to take, take the reins and lead that team the way we know and we've seen, we've seen him do, you know, before his injury. So I'm happy, I'm happy with JT, man, I'm happy with JT. I'm happy.

[Joe Johnson]

Tatum is 28 years of age.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm Happy for Jalen Brown, too. So now this even worse. This make it even worse. Now you think about all the noise, right? All the noise of the people counting the Celtics out because JT Was hurt. What Jayden Brown came out and did.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Led the ass to a goddamn second seed, right? What you think he's gonna go to do in Philly with another chip on the shoulder?

[Joe Johnson]

What? Hold. The difference is he got a ball stopper. He got another guy trying to cut his teeth and show that he's. He's incredible. Maxi went to the all. Was an all star. You got the one guy that you throw it in there, he clogging.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He clogging up the.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you got kids in the back seat and you can't turn around. You just hand the cookie back there and they grab it and it don't come back. That's embiid when they throw the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but hold on. Think of this. Think of this, though. Doesn't that take some of the pressure off? And B, doesn't that take some of the pressure off, Maxi, where you don't have to do much because now you can just defer to someone else who can get to it just like you can. It's.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, listen, it.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[Uncle Joe]

It should. It should. Ocho. But you know, JB just coming off averaging 29 a game, bro. Maxi average. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Maxi average, 26, 27 a game.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So we led the league in scoring. Take off, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

So you got MB like uncle said, he a ball stopper. I think he gonna have to change his game more than anybody, Embiid, because you got a bunch. You got Maxi, Edgecombe and. And. And. And Brown around Embiid, I think it can be great, but he can't. He can't be no ball stopper to where it's messing up the rhythm, bro. You know what I mean? Like, you got some young thoroughbred, some boys who can get out. JB Gonna be able to get heels on both ends of the floor. I think that's the most valuable piece, honestly, because if he comes in, he could be a lockdown defender, and he's giving you roughly 22 to 25 a night. I'm talking about efficiency. He's gonna look. He gonna be looking to prove a lot of people wrong, and he's gonna be looking to show how valuable he is, meaning he's gonna be a winning piece to the right situation. And I think. Hey, hey, I'm not mad at it, bro. I like him. In Philly, if they can figure it out, if B Can stay healthy. Hell, maybe 60 games. Uncle Ocho can MB give us 60 games.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know, it's funny. Even if he don't give you 60, you still got maxing. Got. You still got JB even if you don't. And whoever they have in place, I'm sure they can not be in the middle, not be in the way and clogging up the goddamn paint. So Maxi and JB can do what they need to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question, though. What was your best receiver? How many, what's the most yard you ever had in the season? 1400.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, 14 something.

[Joe Johnson]

So let's just say for the sake of argument, at 25, 26 years of age, you just had 1500 receiving yards. Oh, 95 catches, 13 touchdowns. And they bring a guy in your same age that just put up those same numbers somewhere else and say, ocho, we want to take a little pressure off you. How you feeling?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's all I want to say. Once you get to that Pro bowl and you see all the other guys in that Pro bowl and how they talk, Ocho, good job, man. Hey, hey, that's a bad. Hey, there's a bad boy right here, man. Ocho put that work in. But you know, Ocho, we just bringing another guy in to take some pressure off you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, but hold on, Think about this, right? We've seen it many a times before, right? Think about, think about Tori holding Isaac Bruce. Think about, think about Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. Now, we've seen duos.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That operate and have 1300 a piece on both sides of the ball. So I'm looking, I'm looking at, at looking at it from that view standpoint where you got two people as a coach offensively. But hell, I got two dudes that can get it off the goddamn muscle. I ain't got to do nothing. So in, in, in hindsight, I'm seeing it as a good thing as opposed to, God Damn, I got 1A and 1B. I'm looking at it a little different.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think in basketball when you got a guy like, yeah, bead, if it's free flowing. Yeah, you can get that. Embiid is not a free flowing player. He needs the ball and he needs to boot, boot, boot. I'm standing around, what am I supposed to do in the meantime, Joe? What am I supposed to do while he do it? When he back it, when he back it up and he look and see if the double team coming and he's steady back it up, what am I supposed to be doing?

[Uncle Joe]

Look, your opportunity is going to come, but they're going to be far few in between. They ain't going to be like they used to. So the ones that you do get, Uncle Ocho, you know, you gotta make them count, bro. You gotta make them count. Cause, see, once you playing with a lot of talent like this, because I feel like the NBA is running into this because you have a lot of guys teaming up, a lot of star players teaming up with other star players, bro. It takes some, you know, sacrificing a little bit, you know what I mean? So you gonna have to. You can't. You can't come out thinking you finna average 30 and you with Maxi Escommen Embiid. What I'm saying is, man, that efficient 22 a night, 24 a night, that you probably can give them gonna be far better than you trying to get 30. You feel me? Like, I think they got. I'm with you, Ocho. I think they got enough players to where they can take pressure off one another and make the game a lot easier and simpler for them.

[Joe Johnson]

And it can.

[Uncle Joe]

And winning cures at all. Hell, if they.

[Joe Johnson]

If they winning, you.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now,

[Uncle Joe]

hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Boston just won and they broke it up. They just won the championship two years ago. Joe, man, let me ask you a question, Joe. You say I sacrifice points, but in sacrificing points, guess what else I'm sacrificing? An opportunity to be all NBA. An opportunity to be all Star. And what. Guess what else that mean at the end of that? All Star and all Pro. Excuse me. All NBA is what? Max.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. When we talk about two players that's been paid already and beat them and paid already. Max has been paid already.

[Joe Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth about been paid already.

[Uncle Joe]

What's better? Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

this man want another?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want the boy to double dip?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they want a double dip. You got to realize JB is 29.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

And not only that, maxi might be 24, 20.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, maxi don't get his. Regardless, though, he already.

[Joe Johnson]

He just signed. He want another.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, he gonna get it anyway. Hey, Joe. Hey, listen, I'm not a basketball savant. I don't have the knowledge of the game the way y' all do. I just think those two can operate together. I just think they do.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I believe they could.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I think they can, too. I think.

[Joe Johnson]

I believe it'll be a little smoother

[Chad Ochocinco]

if indeed wasn't There. Hey, think about this. What if they had. What if they had a center like Cat? I'm not saying. I'm not saying that Cat would be there. I'm just saying a center like Cat that's not clogging up the paint, that can. Boom. Be out there. Be out there like a stretch.

[Uncle Joe]

I think Embiid can play that role to some degree because he's a good pick and pop big, who can shoot the ball. But the thing is, man, every time we come down court, if you sitting on the block waiting for the ball, calling for the ball, then that's gonna be a problem. Ocho, you gotta set some of these up picks. Set me a screen right when I cross half. That way I got a lot more real estate to work with. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, but every time we come down, I'm getting into my. I'm getting into my dance. And you run down there, post it up. Damn. I need to get out of the way. Trying to get through here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. That's why you got to call play, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

No, no, listen what I'm saying, Unc. Look, JB is.

[Joe Johnson]

Is.

[Uncle Joe]

Is good enough to where in transition. He's going to be a nightmare defensively. You know, he should get 6 to 10 points, 6 to 12 points off of defense alone just by being in the passing lane, being disruptive. Healing skills he's got. He has that type of body, him and Eshcombe. That's why I like. I like this move for the Sixes. And I think they gonna cause a lot of hell boy, in the Eastern Conference.

[Joe Johnson]

But you know what? The Celtics don't hold him in very high regard. Ain't no way in hell I'm trading a guy that was in the MV to P discussion the whole year. That's the all NBA selection who's a Finals MVP or Eastern Conference. And I'm gonna trade him to one of our better rivals.

[Uncle Joe]

That's what I'm saying. That what kind of.

[Joe Johnson]

But that tell you. I know I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know hey. And you know what that means.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, baby, you can go date anybody you want to, don't you date.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know. You know what that means. You know how. You know how bad you want to get rid of something to let them go. I'm gonna use the NFL terms. You know how bad you got to let something go. If you play for Cincinnati, you say, you know what? Forget it, I'm a ship to Cleveland. You know what? Forget it. I'm a ship into Pittsburgh. You know, forget it. I'm gonna ship him to the Ravens because I just want to get him. I just want to get up off of him.

[Joe Johnson]

You won't offer.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you right. Damn, man, that's. I ain't see. I ain't see this coming. I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Johnson]

I did.

[Uncle Joe]

Now.

[Joe Johnson]

Now all this talking, you saw it coming. No, no, you didn't. Probably didn't see him going to Philly. Yeah, but you know, they had the movie.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that. But not, not to Philly, though, you know?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

He probably could have kept his hand.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause we've been talking about it.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Glad not only did he let him go, they sent him somewhere we can contend they put the right pieces around. You already got Max. You already got Embiid. I'm not sure, obviously. I think NBA. When is NBA started already. Where you can continue to improve your team and get assets? Oh, yeah, okay. It started today.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, if you do a 30, you can start. But yeah, you see people already, so things of that nature. And you. But you look at Miguel Bridges, he goes for five first round, three pick swaps, Desmond Bain, four first rounders, two pick swaps, Jaren Jackson, three first rounders. You look at all the first rounders that they gave up and what's it called? Go for Paul George. Paul George got a bad contract, too. Paul George making over $50 million a year if. If he was that Paul George and Andy, he was that Paul George when he was with Russell Westbrook and okc, you got him at a bargain because that Paul George was a hellion on both ends of the court. Yeah, this Paul Jordan right here.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I think. Hey, hey, hold up, hold up. Oh, you got it. Hold on, hold on. See, we can't. You can't. You looking at him, hell, when he averaging 26 a game. I ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I ain't looking like he averaging 26.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I know. I understand that. I understand that part. That's how he getting paid. But we got to be realistic. You know what I'm saying? He's going to Boston, bro. I think he can be a valuable piece. Is he gonna do. Do what Brown done now? He ain't gonna do that but why

[Joe Johnson]

the hell you moving?

[Uncle Joe]

He gonna be a great complimentary piece to Jason Tatum. Hell, we ain't gonna have to deal with no riff raff neither, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Jason. Jay lebron. Jay lebron didn't get y' all no real frown. If you didn't. If you didn't like me, just say you didn't like me. So. But y' all smiling and cheesing in my face, and all the while y' all talking ish behind my back. That's the problem. I got. I don't have no problem playing with jt As a matter of fact, he and I get along great. Do we do anything off the court?

[Uncle Joe]

Nah.

[Joe Johnson]

That man got his life, I got mine. I'm okay with that. I didn't come to Boston to meet any new friends. I came to try to win a championship and improve and get better and contribute. That's what I came to Boston for. But this notion, y' all pat me on my back and y' all saying all this stuff to me all the while y' all leaking stuff about this and about that. But yeah. Yeah, it's gonna piss me off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He knew that. He played. Listen, he played it right, though. He played his cards right.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I know what. I know what. MB better be getting his ass in some shape. Cause JB gonna call him out.

[Joe Johnson]

Apple and pears. The shapes.

[Uncle Joe]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Apple and pears are shaped.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, JB gonna call him out. Hey, hey. JB coming over there to win. He ain't come over there to play no games, man. Yeah, he coming over to win, Uncle Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I mean, listen, y' all go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna get me. I'm not. Yeah, you.

[Martha Stewart]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Excuse you. Right. I still think. I think it's gonna be a good thing. I know Philly fans should be happy. Philly fans should be happy. Obviously. It also should be encouraging to Embiid to know, okay, I got Maxi. I got JB coming in. I need to come in in the best shape of my life. So I can. Not only. That's all I'm saying, but I can also have a season where I could play as many games as possible and be as effective as possible. You know, that. That's.

[Uncle Joe]

You gotta.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My mindset. I'm not sure how Embiid thinks, but I think they. They gonna be nice. And it now. Now they are contender, too. They're a contender, you know, as they continue to get assets, you know, now that free agency is going on right now, they gonna be a contender. 1. One little move changes the, the trajectory of an organization.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I agree. I, I like them in the east, they'll definitely be contending. I say top, top five team in the east, top four or five team. But yeah, if MB come in, in shape, bro, and ready to, ready to go, ready to work. Ocho, like I say, I'm trying to be realistic here. When I say him playing 60 games, because if he's healthy and ready, bro, the chemistry and continuity should be there, you know what I mean? It's when he's not playing and those guys out there just free flowing, you know what I mean? Having fun, enjoying the game. And it looks a lot different, you feel me? When everybody get a chance to touch the ball now, Max and Edgecombe, they in their bag, you know, playing great. And then when Embiid comes back, now we back to this slow down pace. And it's hard, bro, it's hard to, it's hard to gain momentum like that. So they gonna have to figure that part out. It's really gonna be up there and be.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't believe, I can't believe.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, what's up?

[Joe Johnson]

I've been elite 13 years and now all of a sudden, the year 13, we're gonna ask him to come in healthy and hungry. Any condition. Wow. So when we gave you. So when we gave you, when we gave you that Max contract, we. That was asking too much. And then we, when you had two years left on the contract and we gave you an extra three years, that kicks in this year, that was asking too much you to do that. But now we got Jalen Brown. That's what we need from you.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, that's what we need. That what we need, baby. Big fella, we know you've been bogged down with some injuries. Knickknacks here and there. Okay, cool. But look, now we need you to, we need you to get it in gear.

[Joe Johnson]

We need you to get it in

[Uncle Joe]

gear because we got, we got guys around you who we know can get to it and our proven winners. So yeah, man, we need.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? Which. That's what you wish?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. I tell you what, I tell you what. Wishing one hand and poop in the other and see which one fill up. That's my granny said, I tell you. You wish it, huh? He said, wish in one hand, poop in the other, see which one fill up. Okay, I'll be right here. That's the goal. I love about it because now that you, you know, you know, it's, it's Ocho and I, so I Get you all. We get you all. Yeah. So we go see.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, we gonna see, baby. That's the beauty about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like it. I like it. I like it.

[Joe Johnson]

This man. I can't. Look. My thing is, is that I think we've all. All in agreements. We kind of. We saw this coming. It was too much momentum. It was too much talking in years past. It was whispers, you know, JB and this. There might be some butting of the head. There might be some envious. I don't believe it was envy on either one of those guys.

[Martha Stewart]

Part.

[Joe Johnson]

This was. Boston did this. Boston started leaking information to certain people. And they started talking, and JB was like, well, I ain't say that. I ain't do that. Why is it. Why all of a sudden I'm playing? I don't bother nobody. I ain't never been in trouble. I don't run a file with the law. Y' all don't see me out here in the clubs. And, yeah, he had a. A lady. Nice little lady. She was nice. You used to be a WNBA player. That, baby. It was a season. That's all they needed. It was a season. But for the most part, that man don't bother nobody.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And he's like, I'm just trying to figure out why, of all the people, the way you. I play hard on both ends of the court. I give you everything. There's never one, no one has ever questioned, does JB play hard? Does JB care about winning? Is JB in shape? Nobody has ever questioned my dedication, my love, my purpose for the game. Yet I hear everything that comes out about in Boston. My name is attached to it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, maybe it's something we don't know, Uncle Joe. Maybe it's something we don't know that was going on internally most of the time.

[Uncle Joe]

No, we know what's going on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Watch. Watch. And it always happens once the player leaves. Look what they did to Miles Garrett once my Garrett left Cleveland. All of a sudden, now you got something bad to say about him. So whatever was going on internally that we don't know about, that caused the ruckus and some of the leaks to come in from. Some of the leak to come from inside the house. Something gonna come out soon. Watch. Guarantee.

[Joe Johnson]

You can. Can I. Can I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me explain. This is what I think. This is me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know anything. I don't know anybody in Boston. I'm trying to get up to Brockton, Massachusetts. I heard they got some. They've got some nice scenery, got some nice tall buildings up there in Brockton, Mass. Yeah, that's what I hear. I don't know, but I'm trying to get ready to take a look around. But anyway, this is what I think. I think the Boston Celtics, JB got there first, but I've always believed, and I said this on Undisputed. They've always valued Jason Tatum more than they value Jalen Brown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Joe Johnson]

And it's hard not to let that rub you the wrong way, because I'm putting in just as much effort, just as much energy. I'm taking the tougher of the assignments. You didn't guard Luka Doncic. I did. And when we had it, yeah, we took turns guarding LeBron James X, Y, and Z. But for the most part, I had that assignment to begin with, and I don't know what else I can do to ingratiate myself. So. He's always felt slighted. No matter what he did, no matter how well he played, it was always, this is JT's team. He's 1A. Well, why can't I be 1A and he be 1B? Why I got to be 1B? Because we all know A is the first letter of the Alphabet. But whether they say 1A or 1B, what are they still telling you, Ocho?

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[Joe Johnson]

You second. Because I, I ain't see, no, look, I can't, I can't identify all the languages Alphabet, but hey, yeah, in English.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, as long as you got that one in front of you. You are right. You, you are right.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, no, When they put a question, they put one. They say, okay, the first question, one. Do they put B, A, C, D. Or they put A, B, C, D. Right.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen, we know he got a good argument, though. Hell, hey, look, I'm the finals.

[Joe Johnson]

You got a great argument.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. I'm the finals mvp. I'm the Eastern Conference mvp. When we get there, I show up and show out. You feel me? I think that's more of what JB is trying to, you know, get his point across. Like, damn. Like, every time I, I look up, my name is always in, in conversations, always. You know what I mean? So you right. They've always valued Jason Tatum more than they did jb, and he understands that. That's why he gonna go out here, man. He gonna show up and show out, man. I, I, I think he got that, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

And for, and, and he would be disingenuous if he said, doesn't bother you life, because you can, you've seen situations where parents have. Have put emphasis on one kid more than the other, and the kid resented the child, the other, the other sibling, even though they had nothing to do with it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

There's a little truth even in a lie. So even if things were coming out of Boston wasn't. Wasn't the full truth, JB knew there was some truth in it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It bothered him even after this season when they took what he said. I know what he meant. He said, this was the most fun I had. Martin say, well, I. You mean to tell me we had a 31 lead, we lose, and you talking about you had fun? Oh, you had fun because you got you some numbers on.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Hey, hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

You remember Denzel would have had Denzel in the jungle.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Okay.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna put.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm gonna put.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What do you say? I'm gonna put.

[Joe Johnson]

What, you think you could do this to me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shoe program.

[Joe Johnson]

23.

[Uncle Joe]

Ah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

People thought you talking about shoe program. This. That's special housing unit. That's what, the 23 hour lockdown.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

With a special housing unit.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You get 23 hour lockdown.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They might let your ass out to take a shower. Hey, yeah, you get an hour for shower. Maybe get walk around in the yard.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Buy your lonesome, but you damn sure ain't doing up with somebody else. Man, look, I hope he gets out there and ball too, because I. I like him. But. But we knew when you become this outspoken, it's just a matter of time. And it's just a matter of time.

[Uncle Joe]

And when you out, when you this outspoken, there's no better way to shut their ass up than to come out here and perform at a high level night in and night out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what's funny?

[Joe Johnson]

He want to lock dance out the playoffs. He said, man, if I get large. Oh, just let me consider the situation, man. Hey, that man might be Michael Jordan.

[Uncle Joe]

He want to see them in the playoffs. He want to play. Listen, I'm telling you. I'm telling you what that's like, bro. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm turning him loose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hold up.

[Joe Johnson]

Nurse.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, jb, I'm turning it loose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Doesn't this put pressure back on JT as well?

[Joe Johnson]

Jaden Brown, he's never felt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We saw what Jalen Brown did. You know why you was hurt, you know, now we give you the keys of the team, huh? We don't have to worry about no1a or 1b no more. This is Your team. Now, can you replicate what Jalen Brown did while you was hurt? Can you get us?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Brian Windhorse just reported. Even though Jalen Brown was. Was talking about himself for mvp, the Celtics did not feel like Jalen had the best season of their team. They felt like Derrick White had a better season.

[Uncle Joe]

Boston. Boston got a chill, got out of hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They trying to be funny, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Man, I don't know what they trying to turn into a comedy show. That what they trying to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They went horse, you know, hey, don't. Don't mess up the credibility now. Don't. Don't mess up your credibility. Matter of fact, I wouldn't. I wouldn't even. I wouldn't even have wrote that, Joe. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even wrote that.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Here's. Here's Derek White's numbers. In 25, 26, he averaged 16 and a half points a game, four and a 4.4 rebounds a game, five and a half, 5.44 assist per game. His net rating on off was plus 6. Jalen Brown averaged almost 29, almost 7 rebounds, 5 assists. When he's off, they're minus 6.2.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, are they serious, man?

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, bro. They gotta chill.

[Joe Johnson]

You know how it is. You've been on jobs. Nobody ever say anything bad about you while you there. You show up to work every single day on time the moment you leave. He was difficult to work with. No, I just didn't take. Apologize. I wasn't gonna let y'.

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[Joe Johnson]

I wasn't gonna let y' all pay me peanuts. Hey, so if that make me difficult. Yeah, I'm difficult. I'm very difficult. I won't gonna let you lie to me. You told me one thing, and then when I said. I said, you told me this. And then you try to. And then I hold your feet to the fire. Yeah, I'm difficult to work with.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, y' all know what it is. Just like that, girl. Just like. Just like that girl. You was there when you was with her. It was. Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. They put it down. Yeah. When you ain't with her, boy, she talk bad about you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, she was.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

He ain't got no motion like that. His stroke ain't like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Try to hurt my feet. I want to know one thing. Did you tell your friends, did he crack? So he wasn't like that. You let it crack for four years, five years? Yeah. Six years.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, Joe. I ain't experienced that one yet. What? Yeah, I like that example, though. Hey, but I want to know. Hey, are you sure that was written or that's not AI? I mean, because, I mean, like, come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, come on, come on. I mean, especially if you don't like him. You know, those that are inside the organization, but don't. Don't report on. Don't report no bush. Excuse me, no bull crap like that.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all know damn well. See? But. But here. But think about it. Which one of those two guys went to the Olympics?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, don't start that.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't start that.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't do that. Joe, tell him how. Joe Ocho do you realize people. That's how they do. They look at like, well, he went to the Olympics, so he got to be better.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

We smart enough to know, but everybody, sometimes if it comes from the organization, it got to be true.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, the devil is a lie. Shoot. Somebody in the organization must got one eye like me, because I can see better than what they talking about, man.

[Uncle Joe]

We all know it was a money issue, bro. They ain't want to have to deal with that. Obviously, JB made it a little easy for him, but, yes, they weren't trying to do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Immediately after the trade, a video of Jalen criticizing him B for flopping made its rounds. Let's take a listen to this video. I mean, this is my personal opinion on basketball. Some of y' all might disagree, you

[Uncle Joe]

know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

But argue with your grandma. Flopping has ruined our game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jordan Bead is a great player.

[Joe Johnson]

One of the best bigs in basketball history.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Flops.

[Joe Johnson]

He know it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

This ain't breaking news. The same.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

It is what it is. I can clip it up. Like I said, y' all can post it on these paid accounts that y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

These bot.

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[Joe Johnson]

That's just my opinion.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I like that joke.

[Uncle Joe]

He didn't. He ain't tell no lie. Oh, Joe. He ain't tell no lie. You know what I mean? Does he. It's. Do I want to call it flopping at times? I guess you can, but he sells it. He sells it whenever you touch him or whenever you initiate that contact. Yeah, he gonna sell it. And I'm sure he'll tell him that to his face, because he did say he was a great player. He said he's a great player, but

[Chad Ochocinco]

he does one of the best big men to play this game. So obviously, he gave his credit, he gave his kudos, but he did say There's a part of your game where you. You're a little excessive, you know, on a flopping. And you're a big dude. You're a big man. You're a big man. Play like a big man.

[Joe Johnson]

Sometimes 7:2 or well over £300, but. And he dropped like a sack of potatoes.

[Uncle Joe]

Listen, listen. See, but here's the thing. Guys who love to score the basketball, Uncle Ocho, they're willing to do whatever they can manipulate the. The defense, the referees. I don't give a damn what it is they enjoy scoring. They want to get.

[Joe Johnson]

So you talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You talking about Shay?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. He knows how to manipulate the game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, look, waiting. I'm accentuating. Yeah, I'm accentuated.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you gotta hit that cat. Hey, cat.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta hit that cat. Oh, my God.

[Joe Johnson]

So I gotta do. Hey, I gotta do whatever I can to get this call.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, but he was. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, I'm saying he. But I mean, he told the truth, bro. He wasn't lying. Hey, but you know what it is? It's when emotions are so high, especially with JB being on stream, you know, it's just how it comes out. You know, the context of it. You know what I mean? You know, it sounds like it was flagrant, but what he said, I didn't think he lied.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The funny thing about it is for active NBA player to still be on stream right now and do it while he's active and still actually playing, you got to be a truth teller. You can't. You can't. You can't sell no wolf tickets. So anything that comes out of your mouth, it has to be said truth based on your knowledge and what you see in today's game. And that's what. Jalen Brown is one of the few players that can get away with it because he gonna tell it like it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. If you do that and you take a stance against anything, you got to be willing to accept the blowback and the consequences that comes along with your actions, no matter how well intended they may be. When Ali took his stance, he understood that by not going to Vietnam, he was risking his prime years, and he was okay with that. So you have to understand somebody use you. You for a cause. You're for something. Somebody is absolutely, absolutely against that cause. I don't care how well intended it may be. Man, you know what? I want to save the deer, man. I love hunting deer. Yeah, okay. I want to save the bear, man. Bear population getting too big. Well, what about the Fish, man, come on, man. So somebody, no matter what, how well intended your purpose or your cause may seem, somebody's going to be against it. So you have to understand that when you take a stance or you speak out in favor of or against, I don't want you to think that just because you speak out, you speak for something, even if you speak against it. That's why for the longest time, so many wouldn't touch it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what the funny thing about it is? And JB's in a position where he already has you money and he can't mess it up, you know, with his opinions. He can't. And in order, in order to have that, that, that, I don't, I don't care mentality, that, that, that voice and having that platform, Joe, you have to not care. I know exactly. He know exactly what he's doing, and I don't care. And if anybody, anybody depending on who it is, you got to be in a position to power. Your voice has to matter. You have to have some type of importance to it. If somebody say something about anything, I say, I'm a fire back. That's why you go back and forth with Stephen A. Smith, going back and forth with nobody else.

[Uncle Joe]

Right, right, right. Hey, hey, listen. Do y' all think with all these professional athletes having podcasts now, especially during season, do y' all think some way, somehow the commissioners of these leagues will try and slow it down now?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can't do that, Joe. You can't do that. Hey, uncle, if you decide to do your podcast on Tuesdays, that's what most active players do it. They do it on the off day.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you think?

[Joe Johnson]

Me?

[Uncle Joe]

I'm just saying because, because it stirs up so much and it's like a layup to the media. They love it. They love it.

[Joe Johnson]

But I cut out the middleman, Joe, because sometimes things get lost in translation. Right? I come direct, see A D, T, C, direct to yes, sir.

[Uncle Joe]

But this, hey, that could be a gift and a curse, though, because y' all know. Because y' all know when you get on here pissed off, you hey, hey. You go to saying something that you can't recant, you can't take back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to be careful before you hit that send button. You got to be careful. But Joe, I like the fact that players have a voice now. I like the fact that players have an opinion in a platform because you have to understand the mainstream media and leaner television was always controlled of the perception on us to the masses. They control everything because we didn't have a voice. We got a helmet on. Y' all on the court, you know, you can see your face. But they control everything that people are supposed to think and believe when it comes to us. Now, we didn't cut the middleman out like. Like Unc said. Hell, you come right to the horse's mouth. You can't tell me nothing on espn, fox, cbs, NBC that I can't hit. I can't get my phone grabbed and hit Sin. And I could debunk anything that said about me that ain't true.

[Uncle Joe]

Right? Yep, I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

But just. Just understand me. I'm. I'm not gonna lie to you. Had I been playing, I wouldn't have done a. I would have done a pot. I wouldn't have done a podcast because I already know how I am be too locked in. Well, I'm gonna be talking crazy to everybody that's on the schedule,

[Uncle Joe]

so I

[Joe Johnson]

already know me, so just let me a. I had a radio show, but I had, you know, obviously understood that I had needed to be professional. So, hey, you know, hey, blah, blah, blah. So for. So they got some really good players. That ain't what I really think, but I understood. But sometimes when I get comfortable, see, I understood, you know, I'm comfortable here. Yeah, man, I ain't no telling what I'm liable to say. That's how these stories came out.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I was in my own home.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, everybody's like, damn, man, I can't believe you told that story tonight. Hell, I can't believe it either. But I was comfortable.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, that laporte got him going.

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