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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Goodbye.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, guys, it's your favorite unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories. The Knicks had their parade today. Let's check out the scenes from the nyc.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Wow.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Come on, man. Make the people on the building, they come.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, they risking their life.
Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder)
Yes.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You know, if they was a. You know, they catch right below.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No, you hurt somebody right below. What you going to do.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Down there?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, for sure.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
The, the police ain't even tripping. They like, whatever.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah. For the police to take you in, you got to do something really agree.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
People going haywire on Instagrams and that's
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
what it's supposed to be. And, and, and, and for the Knicks, they had the celebrities and Fat Joe and Mariska Hargitay and I think Ben Stiller was. And Timothy Chalamet. I mean it's, it is just unbelievable. I don't know if anybody treat their celebs and their fans quite. And I understand, look, the Celtics got a great fan base. The Lakers, you know, Jack. Spike Lee of the equivalent of Jack Nichols. Jack Nicholson for la. What Jack Nicholson is for la. Spike Lee is that for the Knicks. I don't know who that is. For the Celtics and all these other. But I'm saying just those two. I don't know, Joe, if we've seen anybody treat their celebs to be in the parade, to walk and get the love and adoration that the players receive. Yeah, that is crazy. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. But that is amazing to see the Fat Joes and all those people get that kind of love and that kind of praise. And the old guard, man, the way they had Patrick Ewing, Alex Houston and Starks and Spree and Grandmama. All those guys there damn near every game.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Ocho, here's what you gotta take into consideration. I'm happy for New York. I love to see it. I think it's great for the game. But when you got about 8 to 9 million people living in New York, bro, this is what you get. They are going to support their Knicks. Die hard. And look, we always talk about, man, if you win a championship in New York, boy, you gonna Be goaded forever.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Forever.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Forever. Forever.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
We're witnessing. We're witnessing history right now.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
It's amazing to see, bro. I look. Us seeing all these fans sitting up on the. On the buildings and the light poles and, man, that don't surprise me, bro. I expected all this. You know what I mean? I expected all this.
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Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
If you look at the way they treat their old guard, the Clyde Fraziers, the Earl, the Pearls, Willis Reed, I think. I don't know if he's still alive. Bill Bradley and the Bucher and all those guys. Bird Dog, Bernard King, Mellow.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Can you. I can only imagine what had. Had Mellow won a championship. A. Bernard King won a championship, right? But hey, hey. Lord mercy. But hey. But this group of guys right here, now, the team is gonna look different next year. Dolan has already told you, I ain't going to the second April. Yeah, you ain't going to second April. So don't be coming to talk about, can we keep this team together? I'm not going until the second apron. Y' all take whatever y' all want to take from that, but this group of guys right here, as you mentioned, World Wide Web and all those guys that put this team together, congratulations, man. That is unbelievable. There's nothing like having that parade. I was fortunate enough to. To go to one. Well, we had three, but I went to one. And to see 600, 700,000 fans out there all in orange, it's an unbelievable. It's an unbelievable feeling. And I can just imagine what the next. That was almost 30 years ago for
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
us, but the Knicks, I think the coolest thing for me, Ocho, when I'm watching everything kind of unfold, you look at the older Knicks guys, the Larry Johnsons, you look at Melo. These are two different generations. All these guys in the parade, as if they. Which they have to a degree, you feel me? And I enjoy seeing that part because, bro, they love that Knicks players, bro, past or present, you know what I mean? They would do whatever so to get it. So for those guys to get a chance to ride on and ride through this parade, to enjoy New York City at probably its highest moment, you know, I think it's a blessing, bro. It's a real blessing.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And, you know, also, Uncle Joe, it's a good thing. And it says a lot about not just Nick's organization, but also says a lot about the person who able to greenlight everything. And he gets a lot of flack. A lot of flack. Dolan gets a lot of flack.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yes.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And, you know, he's one who's been able to green like this because most of the time I understand the issue which have been brought to my attention between Charles Oakley and Mr. Dolan, and obviously it's unfortunate, but some of these other players, you know, that played in the past that have always been front and center, that have supported the Knicks, whether doing good or whether doing bad, they've always been there. They've been there. So it's A kudos to Mr. Dolan and that organization for allowing them to be a part of that parade and know the blood, sweat and tears and all the hours that they put in, you know, during their time in their tenure and trying to achieve, you know, what. What today's next Knicks players have been able to do, just being able to celebrate them in enough, it fills the void that they couldn't.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, I mean, Wes has done an unbelievable job. He comes in, he rebuilds the team, he fires Thibodeau, you know, the trade for Cat and swap Cat for G Randle DiVincenzo. But, you know, that, that had to go because he didn't want to break up that, that Villanova four pack. Yeah, he's done an unbelievable. He's done an unbelievable job. And like you said, Ocho. Yeah, Dolan does take a lot of criticism, but I don't think he changed a thing, especially how it worked out, because at the end of the day, and think Frank Sinatra say he did it his way.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Are we done?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, did it his way. And so, yeah, I, I wish, of all things, like I said, I wish Oak could have been a part of this because he gave so much to the organization. Unfortunately, he and. And Dolan are butting heads. I think for the most part, the large part of the contingent of New York, they know Oak laid it on the line for them.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
For decade. But, you know, things help. Hopefully one day cooler heads will prevail. Hey, nobody would have thought that Jordan and Barkley would come back around and see things eye to eye. And it seemingly that's happening. And so hopefully when it's all said and done, when you realize the petty differences that we may or may not have, it really isn't worth it. And so hopefully Oak and Dolan will be able to work these things out, sit down and have a conversation and move on.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Hey, I want to give. I want to give Mike Brown a lot of credit to Uncle Ocho. You know, I think, I think some of the adjustments that he made coming to New York, meaning putting the ball in Cat Hands and letting them be a decision maker and not being so Brunson heavy, you know, throughout the games. I think it helped make them. It made them a better team, bro. It made them a lot better team, you know, because they were less predictable. You had so many guys involved, whether it was og, Bridges, Hart, Brunson, Cat. You know, you got guys coming off the bench who played big minutes. Alvarado, I think, probably, you know, especially those last two games when he threw. Alvarado, when they were down 29 and then in the Garden, and they end up coming back winning their game. He played some significant minutes in that game. Five too. In, in.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He pushed all the way.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yes, sir. So I want to give him his credit, bro. He's a hell of a coach who's been there. I think he won one as assistant coach, but now as a head coach, I'm sure it feels a lot sweeter, especially being in New York. I've seen the clips of him having a great time, which he should. And it's amazing to see, bro. It's amazing to see.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I, I think I, I agree with you, Joe. And I think the thing is, is that like, when you in Cleveland, it didn't work out. Wasn't he at the Lakers too? Didn't he coach? I know he coached Sacramento. He coached somewhere, didn't he?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He was in Golden State for a while.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I know he. I know he coached Golden State. Cause I think he coached a couple of games when Steve Kerr was having that issue with his back.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah. Let me see.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But I think the thing is, like, when you don't have the success that you think now, he was successful in Cleveland, you know, he was coach of the year. They won 66 games. They went to the NBA Finals. LeBron was 22 years of age, ran into that juggernaut sport, spurs team with Duncan Manu and Tony Parker. But, you know, you, you live and you learn and you like, okay, these are some of the mistakes that I made at other stops. Let me not make those mistakes here. Yeah, and it's, it's, you know, and I think the thing of a great coach is to understand that when I made mistakes, okay, this is what I did well, this is what I did wrong. Let me try to highlight and accentuate what I did. Good. Let me try to highlight. Let me try to stay away from what I did bad. I thought so. He did coach the Lakers 11 and 12. I thought so.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. He took over for Phil Jackson, I think, in 11 and 12. Okay. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But this is like I said, I don't. I don't really know Mike Brown, but I'm pull. I pull for him because I understand that, you know, he's been one of the fortunate ones that didn't win a championship in one place and go get a job. Normally, we get the Adrian Griffin or we get to see. We get. We get a situation where, you know, guys unceremoniously get released and never to resurface again. We got a guy like Mark Jackson, and I don't know, I still. I want somebody to tell me what happened with him. You hear all these stories, and I don't want to repeat them because I don't know if they're true or not. But you look at the success that he had. He took teams to the playoffs. He's really the. What started the foundation. And I appreciate Steph and Draymond and Clay giving him credit because he established the foundation of what the Golden State warriors were to become. Unfortunately, kind of like a Tony dungeon in Tampa Ocho, he didn't get to reap the benefits of it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey. But, but when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, I'm not even sure Mike Brown was the Knicks first option as far as.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No, he wasn't. They said he was like 67, but a lot of people turned it down because they saw how he did Thibodeau and they saw that, like, Jim Dolan is never going to change. That's. That's, that's a never ending battle.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
So, hey, and, and knowing that you coaching in New York, they just came off the Eastern Conference finals. Hell, if you don't get back there, you feel like you probably gonna get fired.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes, absolutely.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
So for Mike Brown to take that job, bro, you got to have some cojones, man, because you hired to get fired if you just want to be 100 unless you win it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I think the thing is, Joe, had he not gotten back, had they not won the title, it was a failure. Because you, you, you hired Thibodeau. You fired Thibodeau because you felt that. Cause see, I looked at it like this. I felt that the Knicks felt that once they beat Boston, Boston was the team that was in their way. Once they beat Boston, it was smooth sailing.
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Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Before you knew it, they were in a battle with the Pacers and nobody seen. And they're like, hold on, wait a minute. We beat the team that won the championship. We ain't supposed to lose to the damn Pacers.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So he built those expectations. It's just like with Ocho, we Criticize a player. No, don't criticize us. He built those expectations. Look at all the years that he was great and now he's not playing well. We're not going to base it on, say, oh, but what about. No, no, no, no, no. We cre. We. We. We complimented him. We said he was an all pro. We said he was an mvp. We said he was a DPOY or opoy. Rookie of the year. We gave him kudos. Nah. The thing I love most about sports is that unlike most job where you have to update your resume every three to six months, you got to update your resume if you play basketball damn near every other day. If you play football every single day.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hello.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That's what I love most about sports. Update that resume. Some people still sliding that same old ass resume across the table, man. Damn, bro. I see. I see you hadn't changed jobs in a couple of years. Any new references? But this was unbelievable. We either saw Ocho or Paul George sighting. Check this out.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Joe, you seen the. What.
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That.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You with the feet.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Keep going in.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That's you with the feet. Put your hand over that, right? And just let that take over.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
There we go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Uncle Joe. Sometimes. Don't matter where you at. Sometimes you gotta get it in. You hear me? Huh? Sometimes you gotta get it in.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Nah, man, Nah, nah. You can't do. You can't do that. No public now.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, hey, listen. There was a time, you know, There was a time where things used to be just like that. It didn't matter.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Every time was never like that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. You go to spring break and you drunk. Y' all remember MTV spring break, yo? Yeah, man, of course people was wilding like that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hold on.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, I've been to spring break, but you drunk, man. Come on now.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, time out, time out. Talking about time out, time out. Let's rewind, let's settle down a little bit. We talk about somebody sucking toes at the Knicks parade, right?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You do know we were a part of Freaknik, right? Let's not act like we've never seen nothing like that in public. And we'd have seen way worse with freaknik down in Atlanta.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Now, I'm not gonna talk about.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I'm not gonna tell you about the times I was there. Joe boy, listen now.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Now you see, now you talking my language. Cause I was smack dab in the freak dick.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I was right there with you. I was just a little younger.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
They, they, they, they reached out to me. I got no Comment.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I'm saying, hey, when they did. Hey, when they did the documentary.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Why you get on that, man? Tell your story.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No, no, Someday, Joe, where you was at.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Where you was at during that time,
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Joe got. By the time Joe got that letter, it was done. I mean, back there. And. And the heart, basically, from about 92 to about 97, was at the. I'm talking about. Was the absolute apex.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Apex? Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Was that the absolute apex? I'm talking about.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I was still in high school here.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, Joe, I. I was. I was a freshman. I was a freshman in college, and I had opportunity to go out there. That's. That's when it was. So I was.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You could have.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I was. I was a baby. I ain't really. Because I was. I wasn't shy, but I'm outside of my element, based on what I've been able to see, because grandma kept me kind of somewhat sheltered a little bit. It was new to me, and I just remember what I saw.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Okay, well, I know you and Uncle y' all don't take me for a guy. For guys who do public fornication. Y' all don't take me for those kind of guys. Yeah, you be out, Joe.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I do. I do take you. That. That's why you number one. But, but. But I would say somebody said, man, so, as a matter of fact, I was having a conversation today. They're like, man, Joe. They said, man, Joe, be real quiet. I said, man, Joe, got y' all food. I said, joe, present that shy. That shy brother image. That shy little brother. I said, man, Joe cut up. Hey, why
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
want to put that jacket on me? It don't fit me, man.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Extra large, extra long. That's the size you wear. He got it. We got an extra large, extra long jacket for him. That's the size he wears.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, hey, Joe, you think you fooling us? You ain't fooling us. I can see
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
what you mean. I ain't the one was going to freak Nick and doing all this. I wasn't doing all that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Cause you wasn't old enough. Had you been older, your ass to be right. Let freak down.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Listen, your ass before my time, man. That was before my time. But I already know. I already know y' all went down there and cut up. I knew. Well, I already knew.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Matter of fact, it's funny. He ain't go to freaknik, but I guarantee he made up for it. He made up for it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
What do you mean?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You. You old Joe. You made. You made up for it, boy, I
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Was leaving one, going to another black college beach week. Freak Nick Orange crush. I mean, Daytona. Daytona got a black college spring break.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I got another one for you, too. Now, hold on. The classic. The classic Family Bethune.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, I heard about that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And don't forget about Memorial Day in Miami.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was, you know, I would. When I got to get out there and cut a buck. Yeah, they weren't. They weren't out there like that.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, listen, let me tell y' all something. Well, when I first. When I first heard about Miami, I was in the league. Meaning, like, I had never really been out there and hung out. Uncle Ocho, I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, but me and the homies went out there and I said, you know what? I got a guy out there who say he gonna train me. We can go out there, train, you know, work out and party. We was only supposed to be out there for three days, man. We was out there for two months. We out there for two months. I'm talking about
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
how three days turn into two months.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yo, hey, you know how I go, man? You get out there, you go to mingling, and next thing you know, you like. Well, I think I can stay a couple extra days of one week.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, babe.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Boy, black college beach week, man. Hey, boy, I put that beer on the road. Tallahassee. Atlanta, South Carolina. Hey, if you had a 400 mile radius, I'm coming. Hey, freak. Nick. Hey, hey, I told. I told Shell. I said, look here. The camcorder, they got everything recorded for from 90 from Freaknik and, and, and. And Black college beak week. So basically 90, 91, 92, and they got 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97. Put that in the ground with me.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm with you. As a matter of fact, you know what I'm do.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You got to go back and look at it now and look.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Wait, hold on, hold on. This is what he need to do. Uncle Joe, you saw Paid in full, huh? Remember Cameron. Remember Cameron character when they was in the club and he showed the whole footage? Yeah, you need to get that freaknik footage and show it on Nightcap.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, no. Hell no. Look here. Some of them women I'm. I'm almost certain are married. I'm so sure some of them are grandmas. No, leave that alone.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Just. Just blur the face out, man.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No. My grandma used to say, boy, staring up old Ish, it still smell.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
No, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ocho, I know what you're looking for because I got. I got a couple camcorders with some SIM cards in there that got some stuff on there, boy, from back when I was in Miami. Boat parties and all. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And house parties. Oh, boy. The high part, it was off the chain.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hold on, Joe, what you were doing on the.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, man, we.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You know, we just having a little fun, you know.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hold on. I can't hear you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Take your time. I said we were having a little fun. Okay. Yeah, it probably. Yeah, it probably about. It's probably about. About. About 8 to 1 on there. Yeah. I mean, 8 to 1. Yeah. Yeah, about 8 to 1 on there. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, you have a good time?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, Joe, you know, it get a little hot. You already know. Young Shay come up out of.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You got that thing.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
What bad was I? Yeah, bad.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Look here, I already know.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Dang. Nah, Ocho, you know, some things. Some things. You know what? Just. I survived it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Like I said. Yes.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm glad I'm old enough. Because some of the things that were going on, I didn't need to see, and I damn sure didn't need to be in the vicinity while it was happening.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because I don't see, boy. Look here. Yeah, that right there, what you saw. What you. That ain't nothing right there.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, are you. That was. That was elementary job. What? Please, Joe, you was in Miami already, so I ain't really. I ain't really got to tell you,
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
but y' all went to freak Nick, though. Freak me? Hey, man, I heard some stories, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Joe, you gotta realize. Hold on. I'm. I'm 24, 25, 26, 27. The first time I went to Black College beach week in Daytona. I had just. I was 21 walking out, walking down the street. Joe, I'm talking about, hey, me and my homeboy, we done gotta. Went to the gym and pumped up.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Good man. You bad. You ought to see other pulling over. Good God about it. Hey, he said, where you go to? I said, I'm in Savannah staff HBC. Say I go to FAM. I said, well, I was like, what FAM? Tallahassee. I said, you know what? It's funny that you mentioned that. I got a coach, that coach at Tallahassee. I've been wanting to visit him. I'll be down there in two weeks. Oh, boy. I was out like a scout of the new route.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, boy, it was some fun days.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Boy, they were.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
They, they. Ooh, yeah.
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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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Hedi she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
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I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?
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She says he's a quote. But they do get along really well.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Give us examples.
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I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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I turned off news altogether.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I hate to say it, but I
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
don't trust much of anything.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. The Lakers and LeBron James are reportedly negotiating a new contract, per Brian Windhorse. I think the focus right now is making a deal with the Lakers. Right now he's allowed to negotiate with the Lakers. And I believe they are negotiating. I believe they're going. Going back and forth.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I can see that. The thing is, how many of those guys you really gonna be able to bring back, you know, when it comes to Rui. When it comes to Marcus, Mark, Marcus Smart.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Well, we know two guys. They don't. We know one guy they don't walk back.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Who he. He coming back.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Who they don't.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He a free agent.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Domination abomination, y'.
Podcast Host or Narrator (Hyundai Ioniq 5 segment)
All.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, the big abomination. He's just. He's out of there.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
How you know?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
The big hallucination.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
How you know, huh? Hey, hold on. You can't let somebody walk unless you got somebody to replace it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, you can, because they don't take much to replace it. Hold on.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He a free agent?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I think he signed a one year deal. Didn't he sign a one year deal? If I'm not mistaken, he had a one year deal. Joe and Ocho.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Well, then what you gonna do about your business?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He's gonna be a proving year for him, huh?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And what did he prove? Terrible.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, somebody gonna pay him, though.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah. Look here. You break up with your girl, somebody gonna date her. That ain't got nothing to do with you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, she break up with me. Hey, I. Hey, somebody gonna eventually date me. I might not get a date tomorrow or two weeks from tomorrow, but somebody gonna scoop o' Shea up.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, hey, hey. Would you say they might not get you right away, but they gonna get you.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
How about they get scooped up tomorrow?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
But hey, hey, hey, Ojo. But he gonna put meat on something that night,
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
right Now, I ain't got no emergency. I ain't got no breaking, you know, breaking glass. I ain't got that no more.
Podcast Host or Narrator (Hyundai Ioniq 5 segment)
Huh?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yes, sir.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I got it. No more.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, tight. Time to change.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, he got a player option for 8.1. Oh, he opted up out of that. He ain't gonna play for no 8 point.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, he go.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He opt in there. I bet you he don't opt in that. Joe.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
8.1 Ain't that kind of. Ain't that disrespectful, ain't it?
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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
it's disrespectful. It ain't disrespectful if ain't nobody gonna pay you here.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, somebody gonna get. Somebody give him at least 15, 20. Joe.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
A seven footer.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, he too tall.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And guess what, Joe, Guess what? He'll be better over here.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Where?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
With the Lakers, that's what. Ocho, how many times we don't say this in the NFL? We see this in every league. You might be bad over there, but you will be better over here.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Right?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Everybody will convince themselves I can change them. How many times you don't see somebody pick up something, I can change them.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Never that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I know. She might have been like that with him, or he might have been like that with her. But me.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hold on, hold on.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Wait, wait.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Wait a minute.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hold on.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hold on. You got this. Slow down. Take me out. Check it out. Chad. Y' all hear me out. Hear me out.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You forgetting that Luca got hurt. Luca wasn't there, man. Ar missed a lot. And it was. It was him and Braun a lot of the times. So he put a lot on Aiden.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That. That.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That probably shouldn't have been on him. You see what I'm saying? If Luca can stay healthy, ar stay. If those guys can stay healthy, I don't think his job should be that damn hard.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It is, though, because you know why?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Why?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because he doesn't have a motor. You look at the guys this Lucas played with. You look at Daniel Gafford. What does Daniel Gaffer have a motor? Lively. What? Does he have a motor?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Guys that play with him have motives. That's what you need. I can't beg you to play. Hey. Hey, big fella. We need it tonight. Now. Come on, now. We need it tonight. I can't. Hey, I got like two or three of them in me. Over 82 game stretch, Joe. That's all I got. I gotta do this every night.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, man, look, y' all know it. It's some guys, bro. You got to give them that pat on their back every game just. Just to get them amped up.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm let somebody.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
So you got. You got to keep Jackson Hayes though. You got to keep him.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I would rather, I would rather have Jackson Hayes than, than deandre Ayton. But they probably, you know, you're looking at what, what how the marriage are looking. That probably, possibly they might be looking to get off of PJ Washington. Look up getting looking to get off Daniel Gaffer. I think Gafford, having played with Luca, understands Luca. He's a. Definitely a live threat.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He's a bet, he runs, he plays hard. He's a better rim protector than DeAndre Ayton for sure.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, and. And I think a team like Utah Jazz wouldn't mind probably getting off one of them big.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You see Kessler, it's being reported that he turned down a five year 140.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh,
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
it's. It's unimaginable to me because I'm looking at a guy that doesn't really shoot threes. Now if he shot. If he shot three, let's just say he was. He shot three like a Wimby or a Jokic or one of those, you know, one of those guys like that. I was like, okay, that might be a little undervalued, but looking at him, yeah, he can protect the paint. Would he be better than Aiden? Possibly. I think he's a much better defender than Aiden, but that's not saying much. Hey, Anthony Joe, his motor. Aiden could be good if he just had a motor.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And you think sometimes these dudes overestimate their value? Yeah, they don't get exactly what they want by turning down some of these deals.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I think they know the market, Ocho, and they know like, your agent ain't sitting here telling you to opt out your damn contract knowing that he can't get you another deal. You feel me?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He's already done talking. He probably talked to a bunch of teams.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Right, right, right, right. So they already got something in place. Now you gotta do is pull the trigger. You feel me? Like, ain't no guys opting out they contracts thinking like, well, I hope. I hope a team come along. Hell no.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Not, not especially not the kind of money that Trey Young got on the table. Rich Paul knows something. Rich Paul done spoke to teams. He's probably already spoken to the Wizards that Trey's Gonna opt out of this contract. This is what we're looking for. And plus, you traded him. Why would you not? I mean, you gonna let that man go after what you gave up to get him?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I think that was in the deal. If you ask me, that. That. That trade, that Trey gets a new deal before. Before he plays a game for the Wizards. Which is probably why we never seen him play when he got traded.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Exactly.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So. Because it. It would. It wouldn't make sense to me. I mean, it's the same thing. Anybody that signs Giannis, they've already got a. They got an extension already done.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm not signing him and have him come and play on the last year of that deal. Absolutely not after I've given up all those assets. So whoever signs Giannis, you best believe a deal is already done.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, because the one thing you don't want is a disgruntled super.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Absolutely.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You don't want disgruntled bro. Take care of.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And for me, I just. I've seen enough. I've seen. Joe, I've seen enough. I saw it at Phoenix, I saw it at Portland. I saw it at. Look, I've started the Lakers. How many more times you need to see? Aiden just doesn't have a consistent motor.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Right?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He's been at 3, and the man's not 30. How old is Aiden? 28. Because he was in that draft with Luca. He went one. Yeah, that Luke draft with Luca and Trey.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Young
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
DeAndre Aiden is 27 years old.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, that's it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, he gonna get 27.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He gonna get his money.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And I gotta beg this man to give me effort. Get. See. Oh, I can't do anything about. Look here. Whether how good you shoot, how good you some things is just effort.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Effort.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
How hard you gonna play? How many times they say, son, I don't care if you make a mistake, make it full speed.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Because that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That's. That's.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That's not necessarily a talent. That's something you can bring every day, every night, energy and effort. You gotta be able to bring that every night.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
In his hands. That Joe got a little guy. Little guy. Look. Tiny, teeny, tiny hands. Tell me. Tell me the time. Joe, you played in the league a long time. Tell me a guy that got worse hands than DeAndre Aiden in the history of basketball, sometimes them passes be a
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
little too hard for a monk, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Damn that Ocho. Listen, let me tell you something. As a big. That's probably one of your. One of your best attributes. You can have Is some. Is some a nice set of hands to where you can catch, period, point blank. That's the one thing that was great about playing with Amari Stoudeman. Uncle Ocho. When I was in Phoenix, it didn't matter how you threw him the damn ball, he was going to catch it. Boy got some big mitts, you feel me? And you got guys who could catch. Hey, man, it makes a world of a difference.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's not like I said, I mean, to ask a guy. I mean, just think about it. A seven footer.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Kessler's turning down one four. It's being reported. He's turning down 140. DeAndre. DeAndre Ayton. The deal that the Lakers could sign him for, that should be. Deandre Ains deal. What?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
140.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
239.1 for five years.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
If. If he played the right way, huh? If he showed up on the court the right way. That's just not him. It hasn't been him.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
They just get. If you big, they just trying to give you some money. Joe and Ocho, they just trying to give it. If you a big. If you a big. A seven footer, they trying to give you money.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
And you right. But it's hard. It's like you. It's like. It's like I just hired y' all for this new job, but I gotta call y' all old job to get some. To get some positive. Some positive news. But, man, how was Ocho? How was Uncle? And they don't tell me nothing positive here.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
All I know is I look, if I look at you and I see you rating and. Yeah, and you done been on three jobs and all of them give you an F rating, you think I'm about to call you to do what? Oh, so who you calling? If you know they got a bad rating, right? You go, they got that. They got the. The grade food. You go to a restaurant and they got a D. I've got walk on pace.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hello.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I don't know why they got a D, but I'm gonna take their word that the food, the people that came by and graded them, they knew what they was talking about. So I don't know if they left the meat out. If they got rats, they got roaches. I don't know if the food was. I don't know anything. I just know somebody got a D in the window. I'm walking on past. That's just me. Look, and I. I understand references, but in this situation, I don't need the references. I Got my eyes. I saw him at Portland when Monty Williams and all those guys and Devin Booker and Chris Paul begging him. I saw him in Portland. They begging him. I saw him in la. They're begging him. I'm good. I'm good.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I'm good.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm good.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He got. Hey, he's still young. I. I know it's probably. Hey, I don't know what's gonna happen,
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
but I'll let him get. I'm gonna let him ferment on somebody else's time. Because in a relationship, Ocho, there are only so many times she gonna tell you she want to go out, right? There's only so many times you gonna tell her. Babe, you need to get up off that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, it's tough.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
There's only so many times I ain't gonna keep begging you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
She not finna keep begging you to take her out.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
She's not gonna keep begging you to do something for her or with her. She's not.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hello.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because if. If you. If she with you, Ocho, she knows she a pretty good thing. If she with you, Joe, she knows she pretty good. Well, if y' all won't, he will.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hello.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You ain't gonna find nobody like me. Okay. Okay.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
She won't. Hey.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
She found your punk ass, did she?
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Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah. You can walk out that. Do you want to shoot?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Huh? What happened there?
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Only one old show.
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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, don't get yourself a.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No, ch.
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I'm not. That my baby, bro. That's my baby. Huh?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So I'm. I'm just looking at this dude. I'm like, bro, do you realize how this man. This man should be making, like 600 in today's game? All you got to do is be decent and play, like, 15 years. Joe, you walking away with 500 million after taxes, because you know what the taxes. You NBA player today, that's worth anything after taxes. Should have about 200 million stored up.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh, easy, easy. The way they giving out.
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Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Look, man, you can get. You can get 150 million now with no credentials. You ain't got to come with no All Star appearances, no all NBA. You ain't got to come with none of that. Oh, you got to come with some pretty decent numbers, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That's it.
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That's it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Game different, man.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But we're gonna find out. We'll see if LeBron. Look, it's been reported that he's gonna. You know, they're talking. They're probably trying to get the numbers right. Look, Mark Walters, who owned the Dodgers, who bought, who purchased the Lakers, full ownership will be transferred to him at a later date and time. I don't know when that is, but obviously he's a businessman and he's got a lot of money tied up in the Dodgers. When you got Mookie, you got Shohei and you got all those Turner and you got. You just signed Tucker, you got Yoshi. That's a big payroll, big time. But they paid it off because they winning. He wants to win.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, they want to win.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He paid 10 billion for the Lakers. 10 billion with a B.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
They gonna. Hey, they gonna have to pay some money, boy. And free agency boy.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But Shooter, who that?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Lakers.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hell, they need defense, Joe. They need deep, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
They g. They probably somebody.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Somebody play some damn deep.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Outside of Marcus Mark, I think. Look, and that's the thing. If you're gonna. If you're gonna have a guy that's a little suspect on defense, right, you better have at least two to three defenders, wing defenders on the court at all times, Right?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
All the time.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Go look at the Knicks. What do they have? Josh Hart, Mikhail Bridges, OG Anunoby, Mitchell. Robinson comes in to replace Cat. You get Landry Shamet playing defense. You go look at okc. What do they have with Shay? He's not the greatest defenders, but you got Dort, you got J Dub, you got Wallace, you got Caruso. You see what you see a reoccurring theme. You look at the spurs if they Aaron Fox. But you got guys like Castle, you got Vasale, you got that alien behind you. You see a reoccurring. What's going on here? So if you're suspect at your point guard, you better have two to three defenders on the court at all times.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because if you don't, especially when it comes to clutch time, what are they going to do? Put him as great as an offensive player is when they get the clutch time, they put Luca or they put Austin Reeves in the pick and roll every single time.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yep. You're going to be chopped liver if you can't. If you can't guard out there on that perimeter and we got to get too much help, you getting beat off the dribble quick. Because guess what? This is a point guards league now. Okay, Ocho? It used to be a big man's league.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yep.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
This is a guard driven league now. Kind of like the quarterback. Everything revolves around the quarterback. Same thing with the point guard. Because he facilitates, he makes everybody better. Not only that, he has to be able to score that damn ball nowadays.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
And with that being said, if you don't have guys who can guard you in trouble, Bro, the guy's too good. They just too good. Nowadays from the perimeter standpoint, it's too many possessions. The game is played at such a high pace now that bruh, if you ain't got guys who willing to do the dirty work, it's hard to win.
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Hey, I got a question, Uncle Joe.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Go ahead.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Especially when it comes to basketball, right? We seeing an influx of point guards now being 6, 5, 6, 7, you know, 6, 9 like that with Jalen Brunson showing that they can get it done short of poor shorter point guards can get it done like, like they did back in the days, you know, 61-6263. Do you think that opens up the door for the NBA to still look, look at some of the shorter point guards as well? Being that Jalen Brunson just went took his team to a championship or. They don't care about that.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I, I honestly I don't think they really care too much about it because you got to look at the guys that's around Jalen Brunson, you know what I mean? The OGs, the bridges, the hearts, all these guys are blue collar, hard working dudes, bro. They gonna do all the dirty work for Brunson to be able to chill. Okay, you go guard champion. Hell, he ain't doing number standing in the corner shooting threes, you feel me? We gonna do all this dirty work, but on offense we need you to be the engine. We need you to get us going. We need you to have legs down the stretch to be able to close games. They just got a great makeup of a team, the Knicks do. And yeah, it's kind of like anything like you seen with the Warriors. Everybody tried to copy the warriors style. The running gun having big can shoot the three who can playmate, man, they, this is a copycat league, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But in 80 year history, how many six foot guards have led a team to a championship? So you going to take an isolated incident or you going to take a 80 year, 80 year body of work, right? See everybody. Oh Drew. Okay, for every short quarterback that's led a team to a championship in 100 plus years, you got Drew Breez and got Russell Wilson. So in 110 years you got two quarterbacks. Let's, let's just go back since the merger. We don't need to go all the way back to 1919 when the ACME packers and all Then the Bears and all the Steelers came around in 30 and the Giants and we just go back to the merger. I think the merger started in 67, right. How many six foot quarterbacks or below led a team to a Super Bowl?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Two.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Russ and Drew. Hey, six three above.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
How tall is Eli?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Eli by six three.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Okay, okay, okay, John, El.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I mean you, you getting six two and a half, six three. Obviously you get Manning and you get big Ben Roethlisberger, you got Peyton. I think Joe was six two. Steve Young's about six one. But you start going six and below.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And you're right, it's a copycat league. It used to be everybody wanted small receivers and then everybody. Then all of a sudden Jerry rice brought his 62 ass in and then everybody wanted to get 62 and above receivers, Right?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So, yeah, yeah, you can. I mean, are you going to build your team? Especially for Jalen Brunson? It's like when you go back and look at Memphis, they built their team for job. They had Desmond Banks that could guard. They had Dylan Brooks that could guard. They had Triple J that could guard.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Right?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You see now if you're gonna, if you're gonna build your team like that, okay, you got a chance. And even though. No, I didn't say, you know, Shay is not a cone. Shay is not a combination, but he's not an elite defender. They built their team with defenders, right? You know, Shade normally gonna have the weakest offensive guy. I need you to rest, bro. I need you to say so that energy for the other end, that's what they did. Like they did with Bronson. Man, Champagne ain't doing standing in the corner, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He ain't gonna put it on the floor, take it to the right. Hey, all they gonna do, hey, you go look the spot of shoot threes and if you fly by him, he gonna sidestep behind the three and shoot a three, right?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So it's gonna be very, very interesting to see how this thing, how this thing plays out. Meanwhile, the warriors are prepared to offer LeBron a $15 million non talk, not non taxpayer, mid level exception per Anthony Slater. Man, that ain't nothing. No money. That's $7 million in la, in, in California.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hold on, 15 million. What you might be talking about for appearance in the Bay Area. Autograph. Autograph signing.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey. Oh, Joe. That's what I'm saying. Hell, Brian ain't signing that for the
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
go in California, Miami or, or Tennessee and you know, somewhere they ain't got no taxes. That might be. Hey, you know, six, six, ten, six. No, three, that. But I get. Hey, that's 11, 12 million dollars. But in California, right? What is 13 and a half percent plus? Oh no, man. And then by the time you put FICA and Medicare, man. No, no, no, they don't took 54, 52, 53 of my money. Hell no.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey, I don't even see it no damn. Where I don't see LeBron taking that money no damn. Where 50? Nah, that man. Hey, listen, I think you're gonna get big money. He might, he probably just do what Jordan did them last years. Uncle ocho. He just one year me out. One year 50 million.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Damn. 50 Joe.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, man, wouldn't surprise me, Ocho.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Damn.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I don't know. I don't see that, man.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
45 Joe 50. That's
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Ocho. Do you see the money these dudes making?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
But they all, they all young. We talk ron finna be 42, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hell, he. And he the king.
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He.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He the leading scorer in the NBA history. Every point goes down in here.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, that's why I said 45. 45 ain't bad. Just knock, knock five men off. That ain't ain't bad.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's gonna be very, it's gonna be very interesting what he does as far as is it a one year deal? And guess what? We find ourselves right back here in this situation. Is it a two year deal? You know, 45, 50 million, $60 million? What? I mean, what's the deal? Because I don't think the Lakers want to be right back in the situation. I don't think they going past three. Maybe it's one year and an option.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, I don't know. We gonna see.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I can see a scenario where he played, you know, 24. He feeling like he said. He said as long as my mind is sharp, I can. And that's it. The desire. Do I still have the desire to get to the. Get to the arena five hours early, do all the things that I need to do, get those shots up. Do I still like getting that round the clock tree, you know, get to the hotel and I get, you know, Mike Macias meets me there and I get all this stuff taken care of. How I mean, he's been doing it. This would be a 24 season. We know he's playing this year. Let's set aside potentially 25. We know he's gonna play this year. Man's been doing this for 24 NBA years. How long have we been doing this? Yeah, high school. Been doing this since he's 17, right?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Under the microscope.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And remember, I've heard a lot of people, a lot of great say it's boring and it's lonely.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yep.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Long.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I think he.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Most of the time. Greatness. You on that road by yourself?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. I think he understands that though, huh? I think Brian understands that, bro. You know, he's a guy, obviously he's up in age and he's doing something that's never been done, but he's a guy who keeps himself in elite shape, for sure. You know, And I, I think, I think at this stage and point in his career, that's his biggest attribute right now, you know, keeping himself sharp, keeping himself strong to where he can withstand an 82 game season. And he's shown he can do that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
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I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about. But incredible innovator, right?
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She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Give us examples.
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I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes A look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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I turned off news altogether.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I hate to say it, but I
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
don't trust much of anything.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's the rage bait.
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Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America, Max Kellerman said on the Game over podcast, if you take SGA off the Thunder and replace it with Jalen Brunson, the Thunder beat the Spurs. Joe, do you agree?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
No, I don't. I don't agree. I think the Thunder ran into the mishaps of the spurs because they weren't totally healthy. We know that Jalen Jay and William. Jalen Williams wasn't healthy. A.J. mitchell got hurt in what, second game?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You know what I mean? So, you know, you lose 2 of your bucket getters against a Spurs team like that. Yeah, you, you, you gonna be hurting, bro. I just think they, I just think they wasn't healthy, which is probably why, you know, they weren't able to advance to the finals. I don't believe that, though.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
What you think? What you thinking, Ocho?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I Mean, Jalen Brunson is, is awesome as he is, but obviously. And the injuries played a huge toll. Injury played a huge toe. I mean, we know that they weren't at full strength. So it's hard to say. I think in certain Jalen Brunson in that place, I think they still do just as well. But you talk about two different players, two different playing styles, both they can get to their. Get their shots off, they can score. So I think that really doesn't change much from a scoring perspective.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
What you think?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's just hard. It's just hard to say because every clutch moment that they needed, right, they got it from Brunson.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
And.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And if you look at it with the exception of. And Bronson didn't shoot the best, but when his best was required, they got it. Boy, they didn't always get that from Shay.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Every game that when Jalen Brunson, he might be shooting terrible. He might be. He might be 5 for 22. He gonna end up 8 for 25 because he gonna make. He gonna go 3 for 3 when he absolutely gotta have it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, I think what you have is considering the fact that OKC can't spread the floor like the Knicks can because Hardenstein can't shoot. He's a hard working utility guy, hustle player, as opposed to Cat who Wemby has to pay attention to, has to stick to. It's a huge difference. He can't just roam, play that free safety to where he can help everybody like he did in the OKC series. You know what I mean? Cat makes him have to stay honest because he can shoot it. Hell, Cat won the first two damn games.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And if you think about it, Joe, everybody for the Knicks that they were counting on played great. Now they might didn't all play great at the same time.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Same time.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But like you said, Cat. And then you get Mikhail Bridges and you get a Josh Hart and then you get OG playing consistent with the exception of the last game. And then you get Jalen Bronson. He's like, okay, y', all, I'll take it from here.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yep, yep, complete team.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You get Landry Shammon playing extremely well. Mitchell Robinson giving you big rebound, big second chance opportunities, none bigger than the game five when he had back pushed Wimby up under, got the rebound and kicked it out and they had the foul.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yep, yep.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Look, Caruso played unbelievable. Case and Wallace played unbelievable. But I didn't get that consistency from Chet Lou Dort.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He ain't give you nothing, huh?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
They gotta figure it out, man. OKC got they. Hey, they gotta make some room anyway over there.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes. That team is gonna look a lot different.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I think so, too.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Gonna look a lot different.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, yeah. You know who else gonna look different?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, Lord,
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I hope y' all get job, bro.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Huh?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I hope y' all get job.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I have John and Giannis.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
No, that ain't gonna happen.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And, Joe, it's a whole lot of, like, riff raff going on with. With certain outlets, you know, to. About Giannis to Boston and Giannis here and Giannis there, man. Every time. Not. I. I. You know, I don't want to get myself in trouble, but you know, where he going? I want to. I want to say no more, you know, he going, you got something to say?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Okay. All right.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You know, we probably coming out. We coming out east next year, though.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Pat Bev joined the recess advice and said he's taking Jalen Brunson over Allen Iverson. We got a video, you know. Okay.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Damn.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Who said that?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Pat Bev, remember, he said he's taking James Harden over Dwyane Wade.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
P. Bear, my man's bro, but I'm not sure if I'm taking Brunson over.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He's saying that simply because he won the championship.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Well, you know. And he know it weighs heavy, too, by him saying that. Yeah, it's got. He's got some weight to it. Brunson in the conversation now, he done. Hey, he showed me a lot this postseason. Yeah, he showed me a lot.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But, I mean, I tell you what, you think Brunson team, the Knicks beating Shaq and Kobe because that's what Ellen Laverton was up against. Hell, no.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
No. They only lost two games that whole playoff run, and one of them was to AI.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Lord have mercy.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I think when it's all said and done, we'll see where it goes. But we got. Like I said, Najo, rings are everything. Ring is everything.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I mean, I think Scotty Pippen's a phenomenal player. Scotty Pippen is not better than Larry Bird. He's not better than Kevin Durant. He's not better than LeBron James. He's not. He has more rings. He's not a better basketball player than those guys. He's not.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I agree with you.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because he has rings. And Jalen Brunson. Look, Jalen Brunson could go on. He might get two or three more rings. He might get an mvp, and then we'll have to revisit this conversation.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But Allen Iverson was one of the top players in the league. Alan Iverson was a top five player for about three. Three to five years, maybe more.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, he changed the game, bro. He did. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He changed the Ocho.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
All that stuff that you see, the cornrows, the. The big. The big. Like I said, you couldn't find no 5 XTS. He had them.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
The tattoo.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
The tattoos.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He came with all that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He the one that David Stern said, no. Hell, no. I'm tired of y' all showing up like this here.
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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
That man. That man. He got on some 40 jeans.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah. And he had to step in. The animals was running, doing what they want to out there. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Like I say, y' all remember Tim Duggie showed up and got his trophy with some Bermuda shorts and flip flops. The flip flops bad. David started looking like, I can't believe you did this.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, man, it used to be. It used to be so lovely back in the day, when I'm speaking like 020304, where you could just pull up to the plane, jump right on. They ain't. They ain't check you with security. They ain't. Man, it was, boom. The bus stopped right in front of the plane. You hop right on, you could be having. You can wear whatever you want to wear, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I like it now. I mean, I like to see. You know, I like to see the guys dressed up. I like to see the guys coming out now. It's a fashion show now. You. They're in Paris. Everybody coming to the plane, everybody going to the arena. And you talk about football, basketball, the wnba. Everybody is a part of this now. Oh, yeah, I like it. You know what? Look, you're a professional. You're a professional. It's okay to be professional. Look, I ain't saying, yeah, you spend a zillion dollars, but I'm saying you could have. You could have a nice life outfit going to the jean.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I mean, go. Excuse me.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Coming to the game and look, some guys gonna steal. Where the Ant Man. Ant man don't care. Ant man coming with sweatsuits in his. In his. In his Ant man twos. So y' all about to get that?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, I like.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I like Shay and Russ and LeBron and all them guys coming wearing that stuff. I like to see Chase and Jetta and all those guys. Joe Burr and all these guys coming to the game. I love seeing the wnba. I love Angel Reese coming to the game, and Cameron Brink And. And Ben, all those young ladies coming in your style show. Hey, show your personality.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Express yourself. I like.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes.
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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey. They got they clothes laid out like day before school. On it, man.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
They be stepping too model height. You ain't stamp. They'd be wearing heels. Come on with it, then.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hello. You right. You're right. You're right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Ocho, we. We got out. Ocho. We ain't really. I mean, you know, I came okay, you know, had me little Gucci boots here and there, you know, had the tim. You know. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you best believe. Oh, shavey. I'll be stepping right now, though.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Hey, Ocho, I know you'll be cutting up right now.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, probably so. Probably so. Back. Back then, I was playing a joke. Sometime with the receivers, we. We would. As a group, we were. We would wear suits. If we say we coming in suits, we'll wear suits. Outside of that, Joe. I had my dickies on, Joe.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
The green pair, gray pair, a black pair.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I kept it simple, Joe.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But I, you know, look, I. I'm a big guy. I like seeing professional, you know, professionals be professionals, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You should. Yeah, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Stop it. Them people tell you they want you to wear a college shirt to work, you gonna show up with a college shirt Shirt?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, absolutely.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I don't know why people want to buck the system. If you don't want to wear that on, you get your own business, and you get to come like Zuckerberg with flip flops and shorts. That's what you want to do. That's the. That's the quickest way to have your own dress code is to own your own business.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
And then you can become as you want to.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yep.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But when somebody else tell you this is how they want you to dress on the job, they say, cat respect, whatever the case may be, you got to wear jacket, whatever else. The video made the rounds of a backup point guard named Tyler Kolik. Briefly stopped by police officers who apparently didn't recognize him as a player. Take a look at this video, guys.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Damn, he lightweight. Look like he looked like one of the fans that jumped the barricade. Yeah, he right in.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I've. I've seen him on the bench, but I can see they. If they don't watch, they absolutely think he a fan to jump the barricade he got in there.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
That's an honest mistake on their part.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, he out there jumping around, running. Hell, I thought he was, too, at first. I ain't gonna Lie to you, bro.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
How many white guys they got on the team, too? He don't look like Jalen Brunson. He'll look like Cat. He'll look like. He'll look like none of the ones that normally play, bro.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Get right, right. Hey, hey. They about to put his ass right
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
back over that gate. Exactly. Exactly. They looking at him like, bro, man, I play with the Knicks. I swear I do. Okay, Knicks ain't got no mascot, so.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hell, no.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But, hey, he was having. He's having him a good old time. Let the bad let the bad live.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
It was, man. Hey, they look like they thoroughly enjoyed themselves out there today, boy.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, hold on. It ain't over now. You know they. Oh, they finna party. What?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He probably get that. Guess what? He probably get that. Going to the games, Joe. They looking at who? You, bro. You don't play on the team. I ain't never seen you in the game.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You probably right. You probably right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah. Jalen Brunson spoke at the parade. Let's take a listen what JB had to say. There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions, but when you prove them wrong, you really have to. You don't have to say to them, Nah, they don't deserve it.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
They don't deserve it.
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Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
All.
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Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I like that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, you can't. He kept it short and sweet, man. He's supposed to talk issues.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
No, he said, I ain't gotta. Hey, I ain't gotta prove y' all wrong. I just gotta prove me right. And then you'll be wrong.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I ain't gotta call no names. None of that. You know who you are.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But y' all know who you are.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
No, you are absolutely right.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, that's dope, man. I can't believe I'm him.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Winning a title launches him in a whole new stratosphere. I don't even know if he realized what winning that title does at his size in that city, what that's done for his legacy. I only realize. I don't know if he realized.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Probably not right now. You know, it's kind of hard when you write in the moment, you know, to really, really. To really understand what you've done. But after some time goes by, maybe even a couple weeks, maybe even a month, fellas, you know, he'll probably think back and be like, damn, man, we really won an NBA championship. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yes. Cause it's so surreal when it's happening and you just caught up in it. You with your boys, y' all Laughing, y' all joking like, man, we having a good time. X, Y and Z. And then when you get by yourself, you like, man. Now everybody call you Champ.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
What's up, Champ?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
What's up, Champ? What's up, Champ? You walk into a room, I don't gotta take a backseat to anybody. I got a championship. I'm the finals mvp.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, not only do I have a championship, but I'm the finals mvp. But I did it in New York, fellas. I did it in the Mecca. In the Mecca, bro. What is it, 53 years, Uncle Ocho?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
53. Yeah, 1973.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, bro, Brunson stamped. He stamped, bro. He stamped.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
That's dope.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I had an opportunity to meet his dad. It's unbelievable. Like I said, as a matter of fact. Oh, I was at. In Atlanta when I met his dad. Met. I was at dinner and I met the other guys, west and another guy, I forget his name. Was it Rose?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Leon Rose? Yeah, yeah. You know him and World Wide West. They don't want to put this team together.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, I met both of them,
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Yesterday, Jordan woods was asked about the rumored no sex rule the New York Knicks players were allegedly encouraged to follow during the 10 week playoff run. The request reportedly came from the very top, with team owner James Dolan wanting players to fully lock in during such a critical stretch. Jordan made it clear she and Kat didn't exactly stick to playing, which what
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
we talked about, you know, ain't nobody sticking to that plan.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
It's easier to stick to the plan if you like a boxer or you're like a fighter. When you go away and they're not there. But if I'm there, I'm walking around. You walking around, you get out the shower, I see that water glistening off your body.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
It's gonna go down, it's gonna go down. It's gonna go down.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You need that reset. That reset away from practice. That reset away from all the.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Needed all the stuff going on, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, man, I remember. I remember being in college and coach Nolan Richardson was telling us about. I think it was a time when he was playing. So, you know, this was back in the day. They would put stuff in their food. They would put stuff in their food to where they stuff. Wouldn't even get it. Wouldn't even.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, put that salt. They put that. They used to call it salt.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I can't remember the name, he said, but he said, your jump wouldn't even get hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you wouldn't have sex when you was competing?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Well, you could. Hey, boy, you'd have to point a gun at the beginning to get it up. Real talk, Joe. I'm telling you now, Man. Hey, like I said, if you go away Ocho, like. Like them boxers or people go away to train, you go six, eight weeks, you had a camp. Ain't no women there.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
No, no, no.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
So it's e. I'm not saying it's easy. It's easier.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because the. The temptation is not there. But if you around. Oh, I'm laying there and she's snuggling. She back up next to me, huh?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You already know it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
She got a T shirt. Oh, you know that the best lingerie is a T shirt, no panties. That's the best lingerie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Dolan, I understand what you're saying, but.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, it sound good.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Look, I'm superstitious as well. Now, had we look, we wore the same once we in. In the super bowl that year, we wore the same. Everybody wore the same suit. So the last we won that game in Kansas City, we wore that suit to Pittsburgh. We wore that suit to play Green Bay in San Diego. But I don't know how. I don't know. And I'm a very disappointed disciplined and I'm very structured. But boy, I don't. I don't know about that. I don't know about that rule.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Hey, you gotta be different, boy. Locked in.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I mean, how many times the guy is gonna go to the bar and knows that, you know, hey, he likes alcohol. He gonna go to the bar for 10 weeks, sit at the bar. Him, really? Guy gotta get a problem. Ocho Joe, he gonna go to the casino and sit at the blackjack table. He gonna sit at the craft table, man, come on, let's be real. Like I said, if, if. If we go away. No problem. As a matter of fact, just to make sure. Hey, don't send me no pictures. Hey, don't be talking. Hey, just. Hey, hey. Hey, how you doing?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I'm good.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Blah, blah, blah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Good.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, kid, you know, if you married, got. Hey kids good.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
All right. Yeah, I'll let you.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But to be walking around, man, please. Because they're going to be a time that you're gonna look back and wish you could. There gonna be a time, and they gonna be longer than 10 weeks. It might be 10 months, it might be 10 years when all you could do is think about what you used to be able to do.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Oh, I'm good days.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
We do that right now. Hey, Joe, you. Hey, man, you Joe, you'll be thinking about, man. Man, I remember I used to get up and down this cold. Hey, I can run up and down this cold. 7, 8, 9, 10 times. Let 3, 4 threes go. Get down, lay the ball up, get it back, do all that. All that is just a figment of your imagination now.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Damn.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, I'm gonna get back to it, though, huh?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Well, you better get back to it for Ocho. For Ocho. Because you need to go and get that leg back strong.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Joe, if I don't do nothing else with tears in my eyes, you and Ocho look at me with tears in my eyes. Yeah, well, I get this leg right, Ocho, I promise you. Chat y' all hear me out, boy, you gonna be. I'm coming to Miami. You gonna be the first person I come see.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I tell you what, them tears probably gonna keep flowing if you play me.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey, hey, we talk about a mean demonstration on here. With tears in my eyes, homie.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You gonna put it down on the joke?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, hey, uncle, he gonna be crying.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh, if his ass. If he want to go viral, damn it. He going viral that day. Yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, Joe, it's so funny. It's so funny. I gotta. I got a Mexican. Mexican homeboy, just like you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
What you mean? What you mean, huh?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He got. He got one leg, you know? One leg,
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Ocho. Ojo, you know what? I know we have a good time on here, but I really ain't the one to play with. I'm just gonna keep it 100.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Would you?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I really am.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
When I look at you. It's a game, okay? Huh? Hey, Joe. When I see you, Joe, you like an Xbox, okay?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That's all I need. See, for a guy like me, Ocho, I just need one thing to piss me off. And once I get pissed off, it's a rap. It's a rap.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He pissing you off right now. And that man, Joe, Ocho, that man said you got him pissed to the highest level of positivity.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, the funny thing about it, too. You know what I did before every game, 11, 12 years straight? I tried to piss my opponents off. I tried to piss him off.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Because I want you try. So this. This is your tactic.
Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder)
This is.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
This is what Ocho is known for.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I want you as mad as possible. So when I do your ass and you understand, there's nothing you could do. There's no training, there's no film. There's nothing you could do to stop me from keeping me off your ass.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
It's gonna be. See, when I'm pissed off, I ain't out of control. I. I have a control. Rage. You know what I'm saying? Very controlled rage. How to keep things in the pocket and really do damage, right? Like, I'm. I'm really. I'm really not. What you looking for, Ultra? I'm just gonna keep it 100, right?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, what you. What you describing to me? It sound like you playing a video game. This. That ain't real life, okay? I got a set of skills, a peculiar set of skills that over time,
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
that I've mastered, that you've acquired over. Over a finite period of time.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He don't even know what he's getting himself into because I laugh and I joke and I entertain.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, yeah. He take you for a joke.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He didn't even see nothing.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, yeah.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You seen outside, Joe?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
All right, well, I'm looking for it. I'm looking for the other side.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, John, take my mama flip your ass.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Okay, well, I want to see it. I want to see it. I want to see it. With your little tough ass. I want to see it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah, I want to see it.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You go see it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
But. But, Joe, you got to get the leg. I mean. I mean, you almost two. You almost a hundred pounds of pressure. Less on the left.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I'm working every day. I'm get there. Don't even worry about that. I'm gonna get.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He been working on that leg for about a damn year. And I ain't trying to hear that no more, man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Okay, Joe, it ain't been for 10 months. It's been, bro, that two more months is a year. Yeah, that's in two more months. I'm gonna be. Two more months. I'm gonna be right. What the hell you talking about?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
All right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
All right.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You rehab. How many days a week you rehab? 2 every day. 5 every day. He rehabbing every day. It's so funny.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
He rehabbing just to be back and rehab when I'm done with it.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
All right. Okay. Boy, you gonna see. Oh, chat, Chad. I promise you. I promise you. Hey, look, if I don't put down a mean demonstration, boy, something wrong. You hear me? I promise you.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Something wrong already.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Something wrong.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You. You think you could do something with me in any sport, let alone. Damn, Joe, I'm better than you at your own job.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You think so?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And I'm a Hooper, Joe.
Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder)
Huh?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, wow, boy.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
A lot. I don't care.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I'm Ready, Man.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I know.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I was thinking. I was thinking he'd get you in. In a. In football, Joe. But he told me. You think he gave me.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hold on.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
We'. You think he get me in football? You think? Cause he get.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Damn. O. Give me no damn football. Hey, hey, Joe. O. Joe say, hey. All he gotta do is put the hands on you. Cause you know Joe got the ball.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
What he gonna do with that? Tell the truth. What he gonna do with that?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, the same. The same thing everybody else. For long arm. I'm push you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Hey. I'm gonna push his little ass down in the dirt.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He ain't gonna be what he been.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Damn.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
No. Ain't nobody finna touch me off that line. Joe, stop.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Joe. So. So, Joe, you go, hey, you. What you gonna do? You gonna do the creek? Hey, you go pretend like you walking off and freezing. J, he you going to stab. What you going to do?
Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder)
Open.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I'mma mix it up. I ain't going to never mix it
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
up on you again.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I'm going give him a little bit of everything.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oo. Hey. He say, hey. You know, hey. We so remember, saw what Sneed did. Sneed did Tyreek.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oo Quick jab, step back, and came.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, but that. That ain't gonna work.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Oh.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Or he got the stab. Hey, Bam.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
As soon as he stabbed, I'm grabbing that wrist and pull it through.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
When I put my hands on him, when I grab him, I'm gonna lift his little ass up off the ground.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Damn. Damn, Joe.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Lift his little ass up. Yeah.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I mean. Cause you got five. You got. You got five yards.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Yeah. Hello. Hello.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
You got five yards. And you know.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You know he don't like to be touched. He ain't physical. He don't want that. He don't want that contact.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Damn. Oh. Oh.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That man said he don't want that contact.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
You ain't physical.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
He said you don't.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
You don't want that contact, Ocho.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Come on. Come on up there with your bad self. Then I tell you that. Matter of fact, the first rep, I' ma just run right through you.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
That ain't possible.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Yeah, Just to set the tone, to let you know. Hold on.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hold on, Ocho. You gonna run on the top of it.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Run right through him. He think I'm a shake. I'm running right through him. Running right now.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Come on.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Come on, man. Come on. Keep it 100, bro. Keep it 100. Come on.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I don't know. I don't know about that, Ocho. I mean, Joe. Joe say 250 right now.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
What that mean? What'd that tell you? If he too feet. His feet.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
His feet gonna be moving.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
I should be by 250, Ojo.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And that 6, 8 don't mean nothing. Jolly Green Giant. I don't see that. I don't see that, Joe. Listen, I'm not under them other. Them other little giant turkeys you be playing, Jody. I'm not one of them. Yeah, it's different over here, Joe. You know I'm from.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I don't know. Ocho. You better get your SWAT game. You better get your hands ready. Cause I don't know, you ain't did a whole lot of swatting lately.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Listen, Joe, that's cooking. He think.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
He think. Cause he been out there with them high schoolers. Oh, I've been out killing the high
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
schoolers in our high school. High school?
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Yeah. Them kids you out there working with, those are caught.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Those are premier college. They high schoolers and NFL receivers, huh?
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Not only. Not only am I db, but you already know he damn sure can't guard me. You know he can't guard me.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, hey, Joe said he. Joe said. Hey, Joe said he want the ball in the red zone. He said just put it up. What that man gonna do?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Let me tell you. Hey, hey, if Joe is a db, his Stanford definitely burn. That's what it's gonna be. He definitely burned. You get out there in front of me with that.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Joe. Joe said. Hey, Joe said the red zone say he. He mossing, man. Come on, man. Chad know that.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, he not even gonna get off the line. All I'm doing. I'm a jump.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I'm a jump.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I'm a jump. Jamie, he ain't gonna get.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Oh, you. You're free. You go free. You go quick.
Podcast Hosts (Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder)
If.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Huh?
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And quick him quick.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Hey, hey.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Grab you right up in between here. Right in between here. He gonna be. Hey, he holding. He holding. Nah, I got five yards to do this, Chad.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Y' all gonna get to see it. I promise you. Y' all gonna get to see it.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
Trust me.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Hey, you can say you've been saying that for 10 months, bro. I'm about. I don't.
Host 1 (Possibly Joe)
I didn't.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
I done stopped.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Nah, nah, you ain't now. You ain't.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
And then now all of a sudden, now you hurt.
Host 2 (Possibly Ocho)
Okay, here we go.
Guest or Co-host (Possibly a sports analyst or friend)
Okay, he ducking. Smoke. Oh, my knee hurt. Child, please.
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Date: June 21, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
This episode of Nightcap dives into the electric aftermath of the New York Knicks’ NBA championship, the wild fan celebrations that followed, and the reverberations across the league. Shannon Sharpe, Ochocinco, and their guest (possibly a sports analyst nicknamed “Joe”) offer unfiltered takes on everything from the Knicks parade and Jalen Brunson’s Finals MVP performance to LeBron’s contract situation and hot “Brunson over Iverson” takes. Beyond NBA analysis, the crew shares hilarious personal stories about legendary college parties and debates on player effort, contracts, and the business side of modern basketball.
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| Timestamp | Quote/Exchange | Speaker | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------| | 04:12 | “It’s unbelievable. But that is amazing to see Fat Joes and all those people get that kind of love.” | Shannon Sharpe (?Joe) | | 05:25 | “When you win a championship in New York, you gonna be goaded forever.” | Ochocinco | | 12:19 | “When you don’t have the success you think... you live and you learn.” | Shannon Sharpe (?Joe) | | 21:50 | “If you had a 400 mile radius, I’m coming … put that in the ground with me.” | Shannon Sharpe (?Joe) | | 42:54 | “You can get $150 million now with no credentials … Game different, man.” | Ochocinco | | 45:53 | “This is a guard driven league now. Kind of like the quarterback.” | Ochocinco | | 63:37 | “You think Brunson’s Knicks beating Shaq and Kobe?... Hell, no.” | Shannon Sharpe (?Joe) | | 64:52 | “Iverson changed the game, bro.” | Ochocinco | | 71:33 | “I ain’t gotta prove y’all wrong. I just gotta prove me right. And then you’ll be wrong.” | Shannon Sharpe (?Joe), referencing Brunson | | 72:52 | “Not only do I have a championship, but I’m the Finals MVP. But I did it in New York, fellas. I did it in the Mecca...53 years.” | Ochocinco |
The episode captured the euphoria and cultural impact of the Knicks’ championship—how it has instantly shifted the legacy of players like Jalen Brunson, revived New York’s sports scene, and offered a point of comparison for NBA stars past and present. Through stories, heated debates, and trademark banter, Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco made it clear: in sports, winning—especially in NYC—changes everything.
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