Nightcap Hour 1: Argentina COMPLETES COMEBACK vs Egypt + iShowSpeed ENDURES RACIST Taunts at World Cup + Switzerland KNOCK OFF Colombia + Belgium EMBARRASSES USA

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1 (July 8, 2026): Argentina's Comeback, Racism at the World Cup & USA's Humbling Defeat

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers instant reactions to a dramatic day in the 2026 FIFA World Cup. The main themes are Argentina’s last-gasp comeback win over Egypt, the ugly racism faced by iShowSpeed and others at the World Cup, Switzerland’s tense victory over Colombia, and a blunt analysis of Belgium’s dominant performance over the USA. The conversation is as entertaining as it is candid, blending humor, tangible frustration, and incisive historical context.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Argentina’s Epic Comeback vs Egypt

[07:31 – 18:27]

• Game Recap: Argentina trailed Egypt 0-2 until the 79th minute, sparking disbelief among the hosts. Two late goals (including one by Messi) flipped the match and ignited a wide-ranging GOAT debate.
• Ochocinco’s Twitter Moment: Ocho admits tweeting “refs can’t help Argentina any longer,” only to see Egypt go up 2-0, then watches “Messi magic” reverse the game.

  “Messi is the real deal. Again, I understand his greatness… I don’t know what else to say about Messi that already hasn’t been said.” – Ocho [09:55]

• The GOAT Debate:
  • Messi or Ronaldo? Ocho leans toward Ronaldo due to personal relatability (“I can relate to the flash, the speed… If I played, I’d be like that”), while Shannon concedes Messi’s greatness but highlights that GOAT status is about both personal style and accolades:

    “I fought as long as I could. I can’t fight it any longer.” – Shannon, finally yielding to Messi’s GOAT claims [10:44]

  • They discuss why certain sports bias toward smaller, skillful players and how “big men” (like Kareem, Bill Russell) are often overlooked in basketball debates.

2. Incidents of Racism at the World Cup: iShowSpeed and the Argentina-Egypt Fallout

[12:46 – 39:52]

• On-field Accusations: Egypt’s players made an “X” sign to the ref after experiencing racist abuse, but officials ignored the signal. The hosts wrestle with whether the abuse came from players or fans.
• iShowSpeed’s Ordeal:
  • Shannon pulls no punches, giving a history lesson on Argentina’s Nazi connections post-WWII to explain why racism there shouldn’t surprise:

    “When Nazism fell in Germany, where do you think they went? …They fled to Argentina, put on—gave them sanctuary.” [13:39]

  • Ocho and Joe are amazed by Shannon’s breadth of historical knowledge.
• Broader Soccer Culture:
  • The hosts note the prevalence and persistence of racism in global soccer and the inadequacy of FIFA and league responses (e.g., temporary fan bans, difficulty eradicating the problem).

    “Racism has always been prevalent… it’ll always be there.” – Ocho [33:14]

• Analogies with American Sports:
  • Shannon draws parallels to the USA’s own history (“It’s as American as apple pie.” [33:14]) and walks through segregation in sports and society, praising civil rights pioneers but lamenting how far there still is to go.
  • Emphatic quote:

    “Whoever runs with a lie at some point will eventually trip over the truth. Nothing remains hidden forever.” (Einstein) – Shannon, reflecting on truth and history [31:54]

• Psychology of Racism & Social Dynamics:
  • They discuss how people’s real feelings emerge in moments of anger or under the influence (“out of the mouth speaks the heart” [37:57]), with Ocho asking if what people say in their sleep is also true—sparking laughter and banter.

3. Switzerland vs Colombia: A Defensive Masterclass and Penalty Shootout

[44:09 – 46:45]

• Game Breakdown: Match ends in a stalemate; Switzerland advances on penalties.
• Key Insights:
  • Both teams had chances, but excellent goalkeeping and nerves defined the shootout.
  • Ocho dislikes games being decided by PKs:

    “I don’t like PKs… a lot of players, it makes them uncomfortable… you can tell by the body language.” – Ocho [45:09]

  • The crew praises Switzerland’s resolve and looks forward to their clash with Argentina.

4. USA’s Humiliating Loss to Belgium

[52:28 – 59:08]

• Match Recap:
  • The US was completely outclassed, making basic errors and appearing several levels below Belgium.
  • Shannon:

    “We have started to think we were really close … Belgium did us a favor to let us know, guys, we had our hopes way, way too high.” [53:23]

  • Ocho:

    “We got outclassed in every sense of the word … the gap between the top soccer nations and the US is so far apart.” [53:42]

  • Joe Johnson adds:

    “We can’t win no one-on-ones. Hell, we barely can even get lateral passes. It’s like we playing more backwards than forwards.” [54:32]

  • The team agrees that the U.S. lacks not just skill but basics (“Little League mistakes” [54:19]).
• Why the US Is Lagging: The Infrastructure Argument
  • Ocho debunks the “if our best athletes played soccer” myth:

    “Even if all our best athletes did play… we’d still be levels behind. We don’t have the infrastructure, the academies like they do.” [56:49]

  • Shannon concurs, adding that speed alone isn’t enough—elite soccer is about technical skill and sharp football IQ.

5. Appreciating the Gap – Personal Anecdotes on Sports Excellence

[59:12 – 64:41]

• Ocho recounts being embarrassed while training with Real Madrid’s reserves, emphasizing the vast difference in skill and understanding, even for an elite NFL athlete:

  “They made me look stupid. I was out there like a chicken with my head cut off… it was embarrassing for me. It was humbling.” [64:03]

• Shannon expands: seeing pros up close (in soccer, tennis, golf, basketball) gives you “a whole new appreciation… these guys are really good.” [65:52]
• The segment turns into mutual respect for the excellence and ranks within each sport, including a playful back-and-forth about who makes the NBA’s “Top 100.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Messi's Greatness:

  “I fought as long as I could… I can’t fight it any longer.” – Shannon, conceding the Messi GOAT debate [10:44]

• On Racism in Soccer and History:

  “Racism has always been prevalent… it’ll always be there.” – Ocho [33:14]
  “It’s as American as apple pie.” – Shannon [33:14]

• On the US Soccer Team’s Level:

  “We got outclassed in every sense of the word.” – Ocho [53:42]
  “Belgium did us a favor to let us know… we’re not close.” – Shannon [53:23]

• On Professional Skill Gaps:

  “They made me look stupid. I was out there like a chicken with my head cut off…” – Ocho on playing with Real Madrid’s reserves [64:03]

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Quick Reference Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Intro & Hosts Join | 05:35 | | Argentina’s Comeback Recap | 07:31 | | GOAT Debate: Messi vs Ronaldo | 09:55–11:54 | | Racism: Egypt's Allegations, History Lesson | 12:46–16:31 | | iShowSpeed & Fan Abuse, FIFA’s Response | 25:14–30:19 | | US Sports/Soccer & Racism in History | 31:54–41:59 | | Switzerland-Colombia: Penalty Shootout | 44:09–46:45 | | Belgium Dominates USA – USMNT Critique | 52:28–59:08 | | Debunking “Best Athletes” Soccer Myth | 56:49–64:03 | | Ocho’s Real Madrid Practice Story | 63:12–64:41 | | Pro Skill Appreciation – NBA & Beyond | 64:41–66:55 |

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Tone & Style

Throughout, the hosts keep it “unfiltered”—mixing sharp analysis, historical context, and their trademark humor. No topic is off-limits—from the specific (soccer tactics, PK drama) to the systemic (racism, American and international history, athlete development).

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Summary

This Nightcap delivers a rich post-game breakdown and cultural commentary. Major highlights include deep appreciation for Messi, frank talk about the ugly realities of racism in global and American sports, and a hard reset on US Men’s National Team expectations. The show’s personal stories—whether Ocho’s soccer humility at Real Madrid or Shannon’s historical deep-dives—offer unmatched context and relatability for fans.

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[Co-host or Guest]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

No, no, no, no, no. We ain't talking about that type of damn service. Oh, okay, okay. We don't know, we don't know. We just see what we don't know.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Co-host or Guest]

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[Co-host or Guest]

I don't.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, I was like, man, you mean to tell me Egypt is going to knock off the reigning defending champs with many considered the greatest player to ever play? Is that what Egypt's about to do? Let's just say, man, y' all know I ain't going out like that, man.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I'm him.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I've been him. And boom, boom, boom. And they win the game. Oh, you know what happened?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I. I don't know what happened. Obviously. It was two. It was two zero. I said, I tweeted out that it's not looking good. The refs can't help. The refs can't help Argentina too much longer. And then as soon as I tweeted that Egypt went on to score, it's 20 now. So at this point, I'm like, okay, Egypt be cruising.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, but there's.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

There's a. There's a saying 20 is a worst lead to have in soccer. Why they say it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Why is it?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I have no idea, Uncle Joe. I have no idea. Lo and behold, here we go. Messy magic. Messy magic. Romero gets one, Enzo gets one, Messi gets one. And before you, before you know it, it's three two. And obviously, the Egypt head coach is complaining. He's saying the refs, he's not happy about, you know, some of. Some of, some of the calls in the game. I think Egypt should have had a third goal. If anything, the game should have been 33 if there must have been a foul somewhere. I mean, what. Listen, Argentina looked dead in the water until it mattered most. And Messi is one of the best. Uncle Joe, in those moments when you need it most, he always come through. Now, some people will say, oh, the ref cheated. This happened. But those goals, they still had to go in. In the back of the net. That shot by Messi, that was very, very, very difficult. That header by Enzo, very, very difficult. Obviously, not for them because they do it all the time, but, man, it. It was a good game. And. And no, Messi. Messi is the real deal. Messi is the real deal. Again, I understand his greatness. A lot of people, they were on my head on Twitter today after the. You know, after. After the game, and. And he's a lot of people's goat. I love him to death. I love what he's done for the game. But I. I don't know what to say. I don't know what else to say about Messi that already hasn't been said.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Here to go. You haven't said that. Everybody else been saying. You haven't said. You say you don't know what is to be said. You out of your. Out of your partials, parse your lips and say messy to go chat. I fought as long as I could. I fought as long as I could. I can't. I can't fight it any longer.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, okay, My bad.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, hey. He might he one of them, for damn sure. Absolutely.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Absolutely. Absolutely. He's one of them. And listen, it all comes down to preference. Now, when you argue about the goat debate, obviously one of the things that you and Joe are really good at doing is you understand the resume and the accolades and what every player has done to support your notion on why, yes, who player said player is goat. Now, when I. When I say it, I'm saying I like it based on this. This individual's style of preference that I can actually. That I can actually relate to. I can relate to that. I can't relate the message in any type of way because I'm not small, I'm not short. I mean, I can't do any of that. But Cristiano, I can relate to the flare, the flash, the speed, playing on the wing. If I did happen to play football, I mean, play soccer, I would be something like that with a. With a little tad bit of craziness to it. I mean, that's what I can relate to. That's why I prefer him as my goat as opposed to other people. And they bring up all the accolades. I understand. I know. I know. You can't go wrong just for me. I prefer Cristiano for those that like Messi. I love you. He's one of the greatest of all time, but I just.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Well, it's not like a lot of other sports Big. Don't ever get big. I mean, nobody really ever considered big in basketball to go because Kareem and Will, Bill Russell, they don't even get no consideration. And you talk about one one, 11 championships. One got 30,000 points, rebounds, and the other got six MVPs. Six, six. Six championships and 10 appearances, and they don't even. So we look at won 11 championships.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Bill Russell. Bill Russell.

[Co-host or Guest]

Well, who the hell was he playing against?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

They won eight. Whoever that. Well, that, that time, they. That was in the beginning. That was in the 60s. They won eight of the 10 championships contested in the 60s.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Oo. That's that. That's that Celtic pride, that Celtic history. Yeah. He leading the charge in that.

[Co-host or Guest]

What the hell? Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

During the match, Hassan made the X with his arms to report a case of racism. However, it was ignored by the ref. Egypt after. After the defeat of Argentina at the World cup, said we were wrong by the referee today. Everyone saw it. After 2 0, everything went and worked against us. I guess that's the signal for someone on the field. I guess someone on the field says something racist or use, you know, racist language or something. I don't know. That's something you can clarify.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I don't know. I don't know. Obviously, in this World cup, most of the time when players want to say something insulting to another player, I'm not sure if it's coming from the stands. It was referring to a player saying something, right?

[Co-host or Guest]

I. I don't know.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

We held hands up. Now, Argentina, I don't know.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I don't know.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And. And there was a situation where somebody in the stand said something to our speed.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I saw that. I saw that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I don't know why people are surprised. The Argentine. Do y' all not know history? What do y' all thought the Nazis and the fascists went when the fall. When the. When. When Nazism fell in Germany? What do you think they go? What did Eichmann and Joseph Mingley, the Angel of Death, where do you think they went to? Where do you think all those soldiers and all the upper ranks, where they went to, they fled to Argentina, put on. Gave them sanctuary. Man, you know what, Joe? I hate to do it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

How you be knowing all this stuff, huh?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

That's what I'm saying. Hey, you teaching me something here? Keep going.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I mean, hey, I'm in history class.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yes, yes. Even though, Even though I know y' all know the story about Evita Ava Perrone, who was the highest record. She was married.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I know who that is.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah. But the song, don't cry for me, Argentina, that don't have anything to do. But even though. Even though he. He got overthrown, got exiled, came back, won election again, ended up having a heart attack. But y' all gotta understand the history of this. Nobody's surprised if you know history. Nobody's surprised to Argentina. Now, I'm not saying somebody on the. But when he said when that. Said that speed, I wasn't surprised. I might have been one of the least surprised people, given the history of Argentina and how everybody that was under Nazi Germany, a lot of the high ranking officials, they got sanctuary in Argentina. So I was. I wasn't surprised by that. Now, I don't know. When you throw up the exile chat, y' all can educate me on that. What does that mean? When somebody says something on the field, and it's hard for me to believe that somebody can say something in the stands. And then the officials on the field,

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

but I guess they couldn't.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

They tried to clean that up, Ocho, because you used to hear chants and stuff like that. And we just saw a situation where the Paraguay. The senator of Paraguay, and then refuse.

[Co-host or Guest]

And then.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Now she threatened and refused to apologize at that. Now what they did do this World cup, so players can't throw insults most of the time. What they like to do, Uncle Joe, they like to cover their mouth and talk about to get the insults off. But at this World cup, if you cover your mouth, you get an automatic red card. You get an automatic, automatic red car. So no one's been able to cover their mouth. If you gonna say anything, if you're gonna insult somebody, you got to say it. And obviously they don't want you covering your mouth because now they can read your lips.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, hey, hey. One thing about this World cup, man, playing soccer, boy, you gotta. You gotta be tough out there, don't you, Uncle Ocho? Hey, them boys jump down your. Hey, them boys jump down your throat in a minute. Talk. You know what I mean? Talking. Hey, I said, hey, man, look, every time somebody jump up and get in somebody's face, I'm like.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And, you know, a lot of times guys, these guys speak multiple languages.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I think you might be saying something slick that they don't understand exactly what you're saying. So you think you tried to get one off on them. They like, hold on. What.

[Co-host or Guest]

What you say?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this was. This was the unbelievable game. I. I just knew Argentina. I said, man, Argentina. Y' all done, bro. It ain't no way And I'm looking, I'm like, damn, Egypt, about to pull off. And look, if you made it this far, obviously you are a very good team. It's not an accident that you to the round of 16, that's not an accident. But to be in there are the reigning champs who's played unbelievable thus far. And they've got the best player, many consider the best player in the world or one of the two or three. Now we know what he represents all time. Yeah, but he still might be one of the handful, two or three best players that's currently in this tournament. And we've got them on the ropes and, and you know, the coaches said, I can just picture him saying it with the old Denny Green. Argentina is who we thought they were and we let them off the hook. Hey, if you want to crowd them, you crown their ass. But they are, they were and we let them off.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You know what's funny too, Uncle Joe, is if you look at Argentina people in the chat, I'm sure you could agree with me, even if you like Messi, even if you do like Argentina is their path to the round of 16 was fairly easy. Obviously the group stage play wasn't hard at all. It really wasn't difficult. They didn't have to play anybody. No disrespect to those teams that they did have to play. And obviously Cape Verde had a great showing, obviously against Argentina. But I'm saying. And this was their first real test, this was their first real test of playing a top club, a club that, that can perform well and play well with them in all three phases of the game. And it looked to me I was kind of, I'm not gonna say I was nervous, but I also, I also thought they had in the bag.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I thought, oh, you was nervous. You had to be nervous.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Nervous, because I'm not going for Argentina. But I just. The messy magic showed up at some point, I mean, and, and obviously collectively as a team, they did well to come back and get, and get in that game. But it was a joy. That was the most exciting game, one of the most exciting games of the tournament. Easily.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Well, here's the thing, though, Joe, let's just say for this, let's just say he wasn't rooting for Argentina because it would, it would help his case more if Bernaldo's out, right? Messi goes out. Right. Because the last thing that he want to see happen, if this man get another golden boot and another, that's okay because it's going to get harder and harder to make that argument. Even if you. You like not.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Not really. Because even though Messi won the World cup last year and Cristiano hadn't won one, I never use stats and accolades when I talk about the conversation of who to go this everyone else does and not. Not understanding. My choice and preference of player is based on skill in technique and, and stuff of that magnitude.

[Co-host or Guest]

Well, then how.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

If he doesn't got all them.

[Co-host or Guest]

Because he gonna go.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You gotta be.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

If I'm.

[Co-host or Guest]

If, If.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Let's just say I can't go out there and, and mimic and try to emulate Messi in real life. I can try and emulate and, and, and, and replicate what Crano does. I can like, can I? Can I?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You should be able to be with Messi because you could take off running and not everybody. Run everybody to the ball and put

[Co-host or Guest]

it in the back.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Not as easy as you think, man. I mean, I'm.

[Co-host or Guest]

I know it's not easy, but with

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

your speed, all I do give you a great lead you take up.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, for one listen, when Messi dribble, the ball is stuck at his foot. Joe. It's like. It's like. You know how you got a yo yo and a yo yo being on?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, I know. I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Pushing on him, tugging him.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, yeah. Messy, Messy. Messi gotta handle like me, see. You gotta handle like. Let's see who you gotta handle like. You gotta handle like. Like DeAndre Aiden or somebody.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

You know what I'm saying? Your hand. Yo yo handle yo. I'm saying. Cause you're handling the ball ain't what you do.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

How you feel?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Little hand.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Okay.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That's what they call it. They call him small hands.

[Tab Ramos]

Okay.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Okay, okay.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But they say. They say messy is small. They say the messy hands are only seven and a half inches. Do you know how small that is? That's a lot. That's a large lady hand. Do you understand how small 7 inches is for a man to have hands that small? Do you. Do people realize that?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, that's why he don't have to use them. Yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I don't know what. I don't know what he could play other than soccer with hands that small.

[Co-host or Guest]

He.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, he out there with a glove. He out there with. I don't know what type of glove he gonna have. He'll have a kid's glove for real playing in the major.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, it's all good, man, but that joke is phenomenal.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Man. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And just when you think he's done, just when you think you can never count that out.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

He caught that ball, nice little Bali right out there, man. And, and then, then he put it the only place you can put it to get in the goal to go in.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I mean, he kicked that thing so fast and so hard. Ocho, I'm like, ain't no way this man got to be praying. This, this a praying man.

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[Co-host or Guest]

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You can see how much that game into him after that game. He was crying.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, hey, hey, he, he was crying because he know, he know the opportunity that they have now and what they had to overcome to get that here. Yeah, man, come on, man. They really supposed to been down three nothing.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, I ain't gonna say nothing. I, I, I ain't gonna say nothing.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, they really pulled.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, hey, that second, that second goal

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

by Egypt after they took that one. Yeah, he came back.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That was a f, you go like

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Butterhead done took his shirt off on that second. When they took it back, he came right back. I saw. Yeah, they finished. Argentina finna go down even.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Brady said, hey man, this might top 28.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Three, man, being down two goals in

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

the 79, that's about, that's Nah, nah, it topped that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

It don't talk about Brady.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's equivalent in a sense because, because, because it's the World Cup. So it's equivalent because Brady then was down.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Bradyman was down. I think Brady Then was down 28.3 with 306.3 minutes. A little, almost a little over 3 minutes left in the third quarter. So they had about 18 minutes. So look at it. They basically had to overcome, they had to overcome what they did and stuff. So they had 11 minutes left to make it 90 and stoppage time. So they had about four or five minutes. So they basically had 14, 15 minutes to overcome a two goal deficit outside

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

of the spurs in this finals. I ain't seen a bigger debacle then. I'm serious. Than what the Falcons had against the Patriots.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, I mean, you got to go back. Well, just a couple of what you call them? The Colts. No, Minnesota, who had to leave with 31 nothing over the Colts.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Wait, 31 nothing?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

30.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, 30 something and nothing.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hold on. That was this, that was this year.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That was two years ago. Didn't Minnesota come back and beat somebody?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Not 31, huh?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes. Chad, who was that? Who had that lead like that with that? Did Indy beat Minnesota or Minnesota beat Indy?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

That must have been just A regular game.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Coach blew.33 0.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Damn.33 0. Buffalo came back in the playoffs against, against the.

[Co-host or Guest]

Houston.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Houston, the. The Oilers.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

33 0.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yes. Yes. We talked about it. That's how I remember. We talked about it. Yes, but it's. And I tell people it's easier to play from behind and come from behind as opposed to get a lead and try to hold on to it because you get conservative. Because what happens is, is that you like, man, why you stop throwing it? Yeah, why you stop doing it?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Because I'm trying.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I'm trying to bleed the clock. I don't want to stop the clock and I don't want to give them any. I don't want to give them any scooping scores because every time I drop back, I subject my quarterback to get strip sacked. I subject him to get a ball tip. Caring and it gets picked. So I'm trying to do everything I possibly can to keep us out of that situation. So you start to play extra cautious, I get to get extra aggressive because I'm already down.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Don't give a damn to lose. Yep. Absolutely.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You got everything to lose. You're supposed to win. Like I said, Ocho, that's why you said 33 nothing. 33 nothing. You're supposed to win the game. I don't give a damn what happens.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Damn. Not in today's game. Not in today's game, fellas. Not the way it's played. It's just like basketball. It's easy to come back.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Now what a three point shot and everybody shoot it so well, you got them. You only had like a handful of guys right now you, you got a team. Two, two or three guys can get hot and make five, six in a row. And what was a, what was a 20 point lead is down to six

[Co-host or Guest]

or eight inside of two minutes.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But this was, this was crazy. While the broadcasting in the state of each Argentina passed two games the FIFA World cup icf. Speed has faced racial taunts from South America country fans. Now FIFA has reportedly opened investigation into fans behavior. The most recent incident came days after an Argentina fan seated above Speed staged a performing monkey like pantomime towards him while others shouted insult.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

See Terms last week while streaming at Argentina's win over Cape Verde. A different fan speed in Spanish Go cry at the zoo.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Damn

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

the Paraguay lady. What The Paraguay senator. What she said to Mbappe.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I'm saying, does this surprise you on Ocho though

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Even in Belgium people don't understand the the story of Belgium and people talk about these these horrible dictators and I hate assignment where he was work. If you're a dictator, you were bad. So I hate assigning where he was worse than him. And we mentioned dictators, we mentioned Stalin and we mentioned. And we mentioned. Who's that, Ed? I mean, and we mentioned Pinochet and we mentioned Pole pot. I don't know if people know about King Leopold of Belgium and what he did. Go study to go look that up when they talk about all these others. Go look up what King Leopold did in Belgium to those. Oh my God. And then you're going to start to say, well, hello, why don't we talk

[Co-host or Guest]

about him like we talk about some of these others.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Oh my goodness. That's why I wanted him to beat Belgium more than anything. Now look, I'm not fitting to sit here and try to put us right pedestal. Cause we've had our own share of atrocities right here in America. Okay? So Chad, I don't want you to think that I would ever. I'm just saying there are things that have happened in society that we try to brush over. And sometimes even if you try to brush over, it doesn't go away.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Nope.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Man, this.

[Co-host or Guest]

I wrote a. Hold on.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I wrote a quote down today. Bad, the Einstein said. And man, this thing spoke to me like. I don't know if anything has ever kind of spoke to me. Kind of like this, like, hold on, let me find this quote. Oh. He says whoever runs with a lie at some point will eventually trip over the truth. Nothing remains hidden forever. Eventually, no matter what you scrub away, no matter what they do with the textbooks, no matter what they do, no matter what try the story they try to tell. Nothing remains hidden forever. People who do their homework, they'll do their research and they'll find out. But I'm not surprised. When they said Argentina, I was like, okay, no surprise.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I mean, I'm not especially, especially in soccer, you know, racism has always been prevalent. Depending on the league that you're playing, players have had to deal with it. There was an incident, obviously with Vinnie, when. Vinnie, when they were. When Real Madrid playing Benfica, you know, there was an incident. And just, just over the years, it's always been issues with racism in general, and it's always been a part of sports, you know. Can you get rid of it? Sometimes they ban. They ban fans when, when they're able to catch who the fans are. But it'll always be there. It'll always be there.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

It's as American as apple pie.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yep.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I gotta write that down.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

This is American as apple pie. I Mean, some things, some things are just inherently in the game.

[Co-host or Guest]

I mean, I.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Well, I read that before, you know, whites wouldn't fight blacks because they said they didn't deserve a chance at the championship.

[Co-host or Guest]

They wouldn't fight them.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And then think about it. They had to pass legislation to get

[Co-host or Guest]

blacks to be even in the league.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You remember, there were no blacks in baseball. There wasn't no backs in football. There wasn't no blacks. The first black. The first. This What? Jackie Robinson, 1947. Man, they've been playing baseball since the damn 1800s. Late 1800s. It took damn near a hundred years. Oh, yeah, there were no blacks in football.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, hey, give him the history on how long.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, man, you know what I hate?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Are you good?

[Sports Announcer]

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[Co-host or Guest]

You good?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Now they're gonna say you. You bring your politics. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Politics is the part of sports. Tell them how long until they get a black quarterback out there.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Oh, man. Well, if I'm not mistaken, I think Marlon Briscoe was the first black to start a game. And he was in the Broncos, I think in 1968. Now, you had Shaq Harris for the Rams. You had Marlon Briscoe, you had Joe Gilliam. Yeah, Jefferson Street Joe. So we had some. But it wasn't until Doug did what he did that they really, really felt. Because unless you win the big prize, Ocho, they say, oh, yeah, you won a game or two, but can you win the ultimate prize in which how you're judged, and that's the Super Bowl. And once Doug did that, it like, okay, maybe they can. Let me think about. Go back and. And I think what I saw a thing with Hank Aaron was doing a story about the hate mail that he was getting about. He was about to break Babe Ruth's record.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, it was bad, man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Well, it was so bad, Joe. It was. Well, people don't even know. But they want us. But they see. But see, what they do is they say, well, you had a two term black president, so racism had to be gone. See, they'll take an isolated incident. They'll take a situation like Joe or myself or Ocho, someone that's made it.

[Co-host or Guest]

See, y' all made it. Everybody can make it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Come on now. Come on now.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Crazy.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You got to realize, I mean, hey, you get. You didn't have both. I mean, supposedly we had rights, but it took the Voting rights acts in 1965.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

The Fair Housing Act. It had so many.

[Co-host or Guest]

I mean, you had.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

It's in the Constitution. What you're supposed to be able to do. And we still had to go fight for it.

[Co-host or Guest]

People died.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

March, the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma where they. The boycott, the bus boycott. The same thing in Greensburg city is in the Constitution. We supposed to be able to vote. We spread the right to vote and we still got to die for it. So I'm not surprised. But I don't want people to think it's just Europe. Hell, over your phone, you see it on social media.

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Somebody constantly used the M. I saw a guy think, a guy, he got. I think he got 3, 10, 35 years in jail. He ended up punching the man because he kept calling his kids the N word. And he said he had a history of that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

So I. I don't want people to think it's just Argentina or it's just Belgium or Europe. Good old. Good old America.

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

We got our fair share right here.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Absolutely.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

We got our fair share right here, too. So I'm. I'm not surprised. So hopefully you, like you said, ocho, it's not leaving. It's not going nowhere. Because, hey, as that also said something also he said so very interesting, and I know this to be true. He said, watch out what people say to you when they're angry. He said they've been dying to tell you that.

[Co-host or Guest]

What?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Watch how people talk to you when they get angry. Ocho, They've been dying to tell you this.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Okay, so, okay. Cambodia really meant that. Okay, okay.

[Tab Ramos]

Okay.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah, yeah, baby. Okay, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Remember. Remember how I said, ocho, people get. When people use that as. See, alcohol breaks down your inhibitions. See, you won't do anything drunk. You hadn't at least thought about sober.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Damn.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Because your mind won't let you go there. See, alcohol breaks down the inhibition, the fear that you had of maybe doing that. And then what they say, man, I was drunk.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, you thought about that while you were sober.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, now I got a question.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Now, I like out of the mouth speaks the heart. That's what the Bible teaches us.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I like that. I like. Now give me this one. Now. Now, even you know, you got people that sleep well, you got some people that. That, that. That talk and they sleep. So, yes, last night I was sleeping and I kept hearing something and Cambodia was. She was talking in the sleep. So obviously wouldn't the truth be that. That would also be the truth. Whatever you say in your sleep.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Well, what was she saying?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That's a sub. That's a subconscious.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's like you ugly.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That's an involuntary response.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Huh?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Go ahead, don't you, Joe?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

What'd she say? What'd she say? Oh, Joe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Oh, she probably said that she was probably wide away. That's different. But I mean, people use and people use. I was angry. I was upset.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's how they really feel. That's how they really feel.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Always kids, angry people would generally tell you the truth. Yep. Because they'll suppress a lot of things and then speak on it and look, and. But I was like, huh. But I'm not surprised by this. I mean, I. I wish. I mean, this is. If Dr. King was still alive, he'd be over 100 years of age. He'd still be disappointed.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, it was. It was a good fight. The message and what he was trying to get across was awesome. A lot of people died for that. A lot of people still fight for that this day, but with great understanding that we got a long way to go. And even though you. Even though we wanted to end, it's something that is highly unlikely because there's so many different people that will never.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Because you have to look at society with. How was it founded? How was America founded?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Take your time.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Y' all know what they did. Y' all know what the people that was already here, what they did, not only did they kill him and steal their land, they gave him blankets that was infected with smallpox. So when they went on the Trail of Tears, they was dying along the way so they can steal more of their land.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Come on. Come on, man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Come on. I don't want to get out. Spot sponsorship.

[Co-host or Guest]

Take it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I don't want. I don't want to do it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Come on, man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Come on. Y' all know how America was founded.

[Co-host or Guest]

Chat.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

No.

[Co-host or Guest]

So let.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Think about it. Think about all those countries that got invaded and they stole their value of their artwork. The Nazis, when they took the artwork, when they in Austria and all these countries, what did they do?

[Co-host or Guest]

They made them give it back.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But you come take these people land and you rob these black men that were sharecroppers and purchased this land and you took it from them. And when they say give it back, you said no. But you know what, Chad? I. I don't said enough. I don't say it enough. Y' all gonna see our chat.

[Co-host or Guest]

We.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I try to get us. I'm trying to get us a sponsorship. And I don't know if this helping our call, but Chat, y' all know I'm telling the truth. Anything that y' all disagree with me with, go read. They know it. They know this didn't belong to them. Cause normally you take something, if you take something. Normally if you take something, you steal something. Ocho. They find out, what do they do? They come give it back to the rightful owner, no questions asked. How can you purchase something that you didn't. They already live here. They already had it. You can't purchase something that's not for sale. Man, I bought the Statue of Liberty. It ain't for sale. I brought the Brooklyn Bridge. It ain't for sale. So how the hell you buy something that wasn't for sale? You took it. And then you put them on the tr.

[Co-host or Guest]

And look where they put them at.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Little small pockets of land. Arizona. And a whole lot growing in Arizona, Oklahoma.

[Co-host or Guest]

Y' all see what they did up

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

and down the South Shawnee Chicktaw, the Lumbo Lumbee.

[Co-host or Guest]

Up and down.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

What they had now, they still got the Seminoles. They still, you know, hey, Florida State Seminole. They're proud. They a proud group. Some of them, the Apache. Some of them still won't want their name. Some of them are upset that the NFL removed that from the. The commander. The commander's now what it used to be. Some of them are upset about that, but they know. That's why it's really hard for me to talk about other countries when I know we've been one of the biggest per bills. Violence of systemic racism, the biggest purveyor. What do you think we learned it from? Violence is learned, taught. Oh, so that's how you get it. That's why you have to be careful. If you're a child and had violence perpetuated against you, you'll have kids if you're not careful. What will you do? You do to your kids what were done to you. Oh, so that's how you can get that. So I can get me something. Okay, okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

See that cycle, I believe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Let's go. Let's go, man.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, man. Make me think about something, man. It made me think, damn, I ain't learned nothing in history class. I don't know none of this you talking about. I was like, All right, all right, all right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I. I will say this. And yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna pat HBCU on the black on the back. There's no way I'm as informed and as knowledgeable as I am. Had I gone to a pwi.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

The curriculum is completely different. Completely different.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

They wanted. They. They want to make sure that their best. Shannon, you gonna be something. We want you to be our best representation. Argentina will not Face Switzerland in the quarterfinals. They defeated Colombia in the defensive master class. Match ended. Couldn't get it solved in stoppage. Couldn't get it sign get it settled in extra time. Switzerland won on PK's 4 3.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, Ocho, it was a good.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

This was a very good game. Hey, I thought Columbia had it right before half. I mean, he got off a hollister, that goalkeeper, that goalkeeper from Switzerland.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, it's been some good goalkeeping throughout this whole World Cup.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, man, absolutely. Columbia had a few chances too, in open play, huh? You know, I can't remember. I can't remember number 21's name for Columbia. He had, he had a shot there, the right towards the end of the game and he skied it.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Scott, he curved it too much. That could, that could have won the game for them before it even went the extra time. Outside of that really good game, both teams, obviously, they had. They had their opportunities on goal go. The goalies played extremely, extremely, extremely well on both sides. Obviously it came down to pks. I, I don't like PKS because you don't know it can go either way. A lot of people, I think a lot of players, it makes them uncomfortable to have to kick PKS as well as you can tell by some of them that are missing and, and not confident. You just telling their body language when, when they get up there. So, I mean, listen, Switzerland is really, really good. So when they play Argentina, it's going to be a really good game. Really, really good game. So I'm, I'm excited, man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That dude from Switzerland, he kicked the ball so far today. I say, because I could have did that,

[Co-host or Guest]

don't you?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That wasn't even close. And he was like, lord, please let us win this game. Please let us win this game. Oh, my goodness. And I think the thing is, the Colombian goal kicker, he's like, you know what? They've been going this way the whole game. Let me. And he gets wrong. He gets wrong. Cause he almost got his hand. Got his hand on it on the first one. He almost got his. He got his hand on it, but the guy put so much on it, it still got past it. Yeah, but he, he like, oh, I was right there. And the Switzerland guy, he. He had two of them. It went right up, right up under it. So he been. He was on it the whole, the whole game. He was. Oh, man, he was phenomenal.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Nice. Now we. We ain't got no soccer tomorrow.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

No soccer tomorrow.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

That's the one thing I don't like when it get to when they get to the round, you know, round of eight. Man, now you gotta wait. It was so exciting.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

What Thursday and Friday And Friday.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

But I mean, what the hell.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

What to do tomorrow,

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Belgium, the game that Oof, let me get mad all over again. Completely demoralized and Lost, Belgium has six shots and one goal in the first 10 minutes of the game. Malik Tillman scored in the 31st minute. The tie the game 1:1. But one minute later, Charles Kayla K. Tilara scored the second goal of the game. So we score and a minute later they done touch the lead again. Oo, Joe. Yeah. Down here, the mat. Freeze. I don't know what he was thinking. Oo, I need you. I, I, I need you to help me understand what he was thinking on this situation. Belgian got the final goal in the third minute of stoppage time. Oo four to one. And this is what I said and I say this and I believe this. In sports, when you get beat really bad, they do you a favor because we have started to think that we were really close. Joe. We're not. Ocho. We're not close. We're not close. So Belgium did us a favor to let us know, guys, we had our hopes way, way too high, way too high. And I got involved and I still, hey, I still, I'm, I'm waiting on my damn battle gun jersey to come in. But we're not. We're not there. We're not there.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, and Joe, we got out. Class, when I say outclass, we got outclass in every sense of the word. The gap. And I think one people, obviously I have my soccer people that in the chat that are probably watching the gap between the top soccer nation, us and the US Is so far apart. They're, they're, they're technically better. I think they're a little bit more skilled and, and it showed like the mistakes that some of the US Players were making where they couldn't even make simple pass in Joe. Simple passes right there in front of You.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

What about clear. What about clear the ball?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

They make a Little League mistakes, Uncle Joe.

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Little League.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

The basic fundamentals that you learn when you 4, 5 years old, that you're supposed to master by the time you get to, you know, on the world stage, that level, it was bad, man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I agree with you.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

It's definitely levels to this. And we just not on that damn level, Uncle Ocho. And listen, when I'm looking at it, man, we can't win no one on ones. Hell, we barely can even get lateral passes. I'm like, damn. It's like we playing more backwards than forward. You feel what I'm saying? So when. So when I'm watching, I'm like, damn, man, we can't. We can't get no rhythm, bro.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And look, you right.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Y' all right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Belgium saved us an asshole from Spain.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hell, we were gonna play Spain,

[Sports Announcer]

man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Please.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, no, you want.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You want it while they were going backwards? And I'm gonna use basketball analogy. Let's say the Knicks are playing, right? You pass the ball to Jalen Brunson, and they pick up 94ft. You know what I'm trying to say?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Pressing the whole time. And we not comfortable playing out the goddamn back. Not only are we not comfortable playing out the goddamn back, they messing up the passes. So everybody looks sloppy. The USA team for the first time. And you know, it's my fault, too, because I was praising them every week we came on here because they look so good in every game they played that. What's the first thing I said? I've never seen the USA team look so comfortable on the ball. I've never seen our players play like this with that kind of confidence. They moving the ball really well. All of a sudden, we play a real team. God damn. We go right back to. We go right back to

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

listen.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Them last two goals, they just.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

They just discuss me. I. I mean, I. I'm like, come on, man, you can't let nobody. Uncle. You can't let nobody come knock on your.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

On your door, on your front porch.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, man, come on here and catch this fade, homie.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You don't do nothing.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Come on, bro.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Nah, he opened the door and slap you.

[Co-host or Guest]

You for real?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Oh, you want to fight? What you mean, do I wanna say hey, Hey?

[Co-host or Guest]

I mean, bro.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, bro, look, you owe the US Team, bro. You owe the US Me.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You think he was hurt?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That what you put on tape?

[Co-host or Guest]

This. This World Cup?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You think he was hurt, huh?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Sit down. Because all I saw was pulisic on the back.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yep.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I don't know what he was. Yeah, but he didn't play well. They couldn't clear the ball. They couldn't control no damn ball, bro.

[Co-host or Guest]

And then they look at, they looking

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

at like, hey, oh my goodness.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I think until a lot of people and what I don't like a lot of people. I, I, he, I, he, I hear a lot of people keep saying this in this discourse, in this dialogue on Twitter and on Instagram. If our best athletes played soccer and they started mentioning all the NBA players, all the NFL players, that really the infrastructure in which we have here. If all our best athletes did play and trained here in the United States, we'd still be levels behind. We'll still be left behind even if we started from four or five years old because we don't have the infrastructure in the academies that they do.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, yeah. You'd have to divert money that you put towards football to where you put basketball, what you put towards baseball. You'd have to divert that to soccer like they do. They don't have, they don't have all of that.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

No.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

How many, how many Argentina baseball players they got? How many Belgian baseball players they got? How many Swiss baseball players they got?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah. Everybody keeps saying, oh, we're so fast, we're so tall, we're the fastest. And the people don't understand it. Had nothing. Speed is, is, is, is, is an asset. Being fast, that's a good thing in soccer, but everybody ain't fast.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

The technical ability to be able to play with the ball at your feet is more important in your IQ and understanding of the game. Being able to see, being able to see the field is, is much more important than just being fast. That's just, that's just half the damn battle.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, but we see a lot ojo if that's the case, all the, the fastest men, the fastest 100 meter men, why you know, on the football field if that's all it would require. We've seen a lot of guys come out there and try that, that ran track and they take their ass right back to the track.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Yeah, I don't, people don't cut it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Dig the a. Go back and look with Renaldo, Neil Meyer, he ran that shallow cross and he didn't know it was man his own and he, and, and he was looking at Joe and Joe said, oh, you looking at me? Were you telling me, you telling me?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

It's man,

[Co-host or Guest]

look at it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

John Capell tried it. Jeff Dimps tried it. It's been, it's not A whole lot of guys, you need. You need to be able. If you speed is great to have, but if you can't control, ain't gonna do you.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's different. It's different.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But like you said, Ocho, that's not. I mean, guys like, they grew up. Soccer has always been their big thing in those country. Just like basketball and football and baseball has been our big thing here.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Now, you know, you see all of a sudden, some of these guys, you look at Serbia, you see they get basketball. Cause they putting more emphasis on it since. Hello, since the dream team in 92,

[Co-host or Guest]

they're like, oh, I could. I could probably do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I can do that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You look at. You look at Giannis, it's like, hold

[Co-host or Guest]

on, I can do that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You know, there's a whole lot of. They want to want that physicality to come with that football field.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

That's a whole different animal. They'll die. Hey, the a. They don't care how fast you are, boy.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Look here.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Eventually they'll hit me up.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

They'll run you into something, man. Belgium beat the brakes off us, man. I'm so disappointed. Me and my sister, man, my sister come. My sister couldn't even hardly talk.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

You know how. You know how I knew? And I didn't get a chance to share this because I can't write it. I didn't want to write it on. On Twitter and have that long ass speech. But I hear a lot of people saying, oh, our best players, if they played. If they played soccer, we dominate the World Cup. And I just made one statement and told them, probably not. Probably not. Even if it did, there's no guarantee, even if we did start from 4 or 5 years old, that it would still translate. Think about how many Brazilians there are, right? How many Brazilians play soccer in general. But there, there's. Every. Every few years, there's only one. There's only one Neymar, there's only one Ronaldinho. There's only one Ronaldo. So of all the Brazilians that's been playing, you know, with that infrastructure and ecosystem that they have out there, playing with flair and. And sort of like street ball. Still, not that many have been. Not that many have come along. Not that many come along. I remember.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But that's all they got though, Ocho. They ain't playing basketball, they're not playing baseball, they're not playing football, they're not playing. They're not a lot of. So, I mean, that's. I mean, think about It. When you, if, if you said, okay, you can only play baseball and there are smattering of guys that play football or smattering of guys that play basketball, well, you will get a lot of, like the Dominicans, like the Venezuelans, like the Caraco. Yeah. Curacao. Yeah. Kirasa, I think Andrew Jones from Curacao.

[Co-host or Guest]

So, yes, so, yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

But when you got millions of guys playing football, millions of guys playing basketball, millions of guys playing baseball, man, what

[Co-host or Guest]

you think you're gonna get, you gonna

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

get a dabbling of this, dabbling of that, a dabbling of this. As opposed to. All your focus is on this. The Brazilians, their infrastructure is what, hey,

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

every, you have some, you have some that are good, then you have great ones. So just because we all play doesn't mean we all gonna be great because we're great at football or we're great at basketball. It might not translate. It's completely different, you know. You know, it was eye opening to me and Joe, I'm sure this real quick and for people in the chat.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

What's that?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

I mean, I'm sure those that follow me on Twitter have always seen the pictures that I, I send or I post with, with Messi and Cristiano over the years. Back when Messi was at Barcelona when he first debuted, when, When Ronald, When Ronaldinho and Samuel ETO were there. And obviously there's pictures of me and Jose Mourinho, who's now the head coach back at. He's back at Real Madrid for a second stint. Right. I think I forgot what year. I think it was. 2000. 2007. 2007. I can't remember what year it was. I went down to Real Madrid in the off season.

[Co-host or Guest]

Damn.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You just said 2007.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, I'm trying to remember the year when Maria was there.

[Co-host or Guest]

2007 is a year. Okay.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, come on. I'm trying to make sure it's the right year. But anyway, to make them. To make a long story short, Maria was there. I went to. I went to see Cristiano and the team and I asked if I could practice with them because it was a. They didn't play till. They didn't play till Saturday, and I got there on a Thursday, so they let me put on the orange reserve jersey. Yeah, I was part of the reserves. Now they don't play big field, they play the smaller fields. Mind you, football season just ending up, so I'm like, I'm in shape.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You still fresh?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

So you feel good?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

In my mind, my ego, yeah. Being Kind of arrogant and cocky. Man, I'm gonna fly about all these dudes. And my skill and technique wasn't as good, but I just knew because I'm fast as hell, I'd be able to get by. Joe though, they embarrassed me for about 30 minutes straight.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I mean.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, did. No, no. I'm not trying to be funny. That's why when I look at, I'm hearing the discourse about our best athletes, Mind you, I'm still in my prime. I'm in my prime and I'm playing with the reserves and it's a small field, so it's a, it's a shorter distance for me to be running. I should be able to do it. They made me look stupid. I was out there like a chicken with my head cut off trying to catch the ball. I couldn't even see the ball at that, at that level, dog. Everything is precise, on point, on pricing and nobody, nobody made mistakes. And dude, it was, it was embarrassing for me. It was humbling. But I also understood there's levels. Now this is, this is real Madrid, obviously.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I mean, we talk about one

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

of the best club, if not the best club in the world, especially during that time. Dude, it was, it was, it was eye opening.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

There's levels to pros.

[Co-host or Guest]

You.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I don't know how many people have ever seen a tennis match, but go up close. Match up close. Yes. I did an exhibition in Baltimore. Pete Sanfords and Audrey Agassi and to watch Sanford's hit that ball. Now Sanford was, was a huge server. Not, you know, now we had those big guys and back then everybody served in Bali. Yeah, you hit the ball, run to the net, it was these quick points. Now everybody play baseline to baseline. You know, that was before John Isner and Karlovic and you know, we had Ivan Nisovich and we had some crack check. We had some big service. But now the guy they can serve, but they don't. They don't. They play baseline. Everybody stand back and, and wait for you to make a mistake. These guys, you know, when you had Stefan Edberg and you had those Boris Beckers, you had guys like, they hit the ball and they go to the net crowd and make you make, you make a great pass. But when you see people that they do this for at the highest level, it gives you an appreciation. You're like, I be damn.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

When you watch a pro hit a golf ball, that ball is different than when somebody, you know, oh yeah, I go down there, me and my buddies play on the weekend. Different. You go to an NBA game. And you watch the guy talk about, man, that guy bum. He don't never get in the game and watch him shoot it.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Never, never miss.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Man, I told you, I watched Chad. Chad hit like 17 threes in a row from one spot. You watch these guys. I'm talking about pros.

[Co-host or Guest]

That.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And you look at him like, bro,

[Co-host or Guest]

how you not in the game?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

And then that just goes to show you the guy that is in the game, just how good he is.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Because these guys are really good. But when you see Djokovic and you see Nadal and you see Federal, you see all these guys. Now you got Senator and Alcaraz. You see all these guys when you like.

[Co-host or Guest]

Well, damn, you.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You really, really get an appreciation to watch a pro, watch them at their craft, man. I watched Serena.

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[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I saw Serena Williams, and she's the semifinals. That's when the semifinals used to be played at night. And she was playing the guy she married, David Lee. What's her name? She's Danish,

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

man.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Serena. Serena Williams was hitting the ball. It sounded like somebody hitting the base. Wozniaki, that's who. Yes, the Great Dane.

[Co-host or Guest]

I said, oh, my goodness. I mean, she was.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, that served.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

And then she was cranking that forehand. That girl got some power, don't you, man?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I feel.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I bet. I feel bad.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

I ain't gonna lie, Joe. I felt bad.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

She got some power, don't you, man?

[Co-host or Guest]

What?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Yeah, look, I saw Serena when she was in a prime. I'm talking about when she was act physically at a peak.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Lord, have the caps on her shoulders, her arms, her legs.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, man.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

It's different. And, hey, Joe.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Hey, you. You really get an appreciation, Ocho. So I can understand what you said. To be there and to see them. And even though those guys weren't Messi or Ronaldo or what we and Bobby or those guys, but just the reserves.

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[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

No, I was with the reserves. I was going to get.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Oh, you was on the reserves. You was going against. You was going against them.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

They had me looking stupid. It had me. It had me looking stupid. And I'm thinking, I'm just coming off the season. I didn't have no injuries, no Knicks, no knacks, man. I'm gonna go out here and act a fool, man. I come out the field, Mourinho laughing at me.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Now you know how people feel when they standing on the sidelines and they see us going, man, my homeboy, like, God, homeboy, y' all moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the licks hurt. Cause you running fast and they running

[Co-host or Guest]

faster to your ass.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Oh, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. So you.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You get a pre. That's why I appreciate the greatness to play a sport and to be. To be at that level, Joe.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

You know, that level that you had, Joe. Ain't a whole lot of players. I mean, they're 5,000.

[Co-host or Guest]

They ain't 5,000 players been better than Joe Johnson.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hello.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Say it again. They might not been 500 players out of the 5,000.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hello?

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Like we say hello.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. They do that damn top 100 because they got what they got. Top 75 right now. Yeah. They gonna have to take it up. Oo.

[Tab Ramos]

Huh?

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Come on now.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. All right, all right now. All right now.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

A lot of people get. Hey, they like, who's the underrated score, you know, TMac and Melo and Garnett. They say Joe Johnson.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, that's the biggest compliment you can get from your peers, bro. Can't wait to replay, you know, guys who.

[Host (possibly Joe or main commentator)]

Guys who you don't battle with. Guys who you didn't battle against.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

I mean, come on, man. What'd you say, Ocho? What you just said? I thought I heard you say something about one, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Ocho')]

Hey, hey, baby. I'm finna whoop your ass, boy.

[Co-host or Guest (possibly 'Joe Johnson')]

Hey, you gotta chill, home boy.

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