Nightcap Hour 2: KD Says Sixers Are MORE STACKED Than His Warriors + Warriors RELYING on Steph + Jaylen Brown Talks BEING DISRESPECTED + Shedeur SHINING in TRAINING CAMP + Browns ROOKIE KC Concepcion INJURY + AJ Brown DISLOCATED Thumb + Dak Prescott F...

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2: "KD Says Sixers Are MORE STACKED Than His Warriors" & More

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Date: August 4, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode features Shannon (“Unc”) Sharpe and Ochocinco reacting to major sports headlines across the NBA and NFL with their signature humor, energy, and frankness. Key topics include Kevin Durant’s claim about the current Sixers’ roster, debates on NBA “super teams”, the Warriors’ reliance on Steph Curry, Jalen Brown’s feelings of disrespect, AJ Brown’s injury, and a hot QB battle in Browns training camp. The hosts blend sports breakdowns with relatable life lessons and entertaining off-ramps rooted in athlete experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. KD Says Sixers are More Stacked Than His Warriors

[02:55 – 15:45]

• KD’s claim: Kevin Durant said today’s Sixers are “better on paper” than the 2016-17 Warriors.

  • Ochocinco: “Katie said the Sixers are better on paper than the 16-17 Warriors.” (02:55)
  • KD backs it with MVPs and All-Stars: Embiid (MVP), Jaylen Brown (Finals MVP), Tyrese Maxey (multi-time All-Star), and LeBron.

• Sharpe's and panel’s breakdown:

  • Joe: “Let me tell you how, KD. The Warriors had just went to back-to-back NBA Finals. Steph had just won the MVP unanimously…” (03:03)
  • Ochocinco: “73 and nine. That’s the difference.” (03:43)
  • Panel highlights that the Warriors’ chemistry, record (73-9), and Steph’s historic MVP unanimously put them in a different class.
  • Historic context: Klay and Draymond were not MVPs but fit perfectly; KD blended in seamlessly because of his game’s efficiency (11:36).
  • KD vs. LeBron on current value: “You’re asking a 42-year-old ... never in history of the game.” (07:18)

• Consensus: Superteam talent on paper doesn’t always match historic dominance and chemistry:

  • Ochocinco: “It’s not, it’s not… Tell me the team that’s won 73 games in a season, it ain’t but one.” (04:29)
  • Panel deeply respects KD's game and sees LeBron’s greatness—“it’s a testament to his greatness that wherever he goes, it pretty much makes them a damn super team.” (05:57)
  • Chemistry is key: “Those guys could do plays in their eyes, closed in their sleep.” (11:36)

• Memorable Moment:

  • Ochocinco, on left-handed KD: “He’s shooting middies, he’s shooting threes. Don’t let him go left. You let him go left, that’s your ass, Mr. Postman!” (12:52)

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2. Warriors’ Reliance on Steph & Front Office Decisions

[15:45 – 18:59]

• Steph at 38: Warriors still leaning on an aging Curry, awaiting Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody’s return.
• Refused trades: Turned down Jalen Brown package; only wanted Giannis-level players.
  • Panel: “You gonna probably have to get Steph out of there, Uncle. I’mma just keep it real…” (16:49)
• Analysis: Both think Warriors made a mistake passing on JB and not adequately reinforcing the roster.
  • Uncle Joe: “I just think for the Warriors to compete ... come on, man, that man gonna need some help, bro.” (16:49)
• On front office disrespecting Jalen Brown:
  • “Make the decisions on bringing Jalen Brown in. To say something like that is egregious…” (17:39)

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3. Jaylen Brown Speaks on Being Disrespected

[19:32 – 29:55]

• JB’s words (clip):
  • “I feel like I’ve been a little bit disrespected in this process for whatever reason...for people that I thought value me and everything that I brought to the team and the city, I found out quickly that may or may not be the case...” (19:37)
• Hosts’ reactions:
  • Sports world/relationships analogy: “...it’s tough when you think somebody loves you, but they don’t love you like you thought...” (20:14)
  • Sharpe launches into a preacher-like riff with metaphors about relationships, loyalty, faith—“Boy, if she'll cheat with you, she'll cheat on you.” (24:36)
  • The business side: “JB chose not to see what was right in front of him.” (26:48)
  • Life lesson: “No man can outrun his past because all it does is makes you tired when it catches up with you.” (18:57)
• Entertainment: Shannon’s “Pastor Shay” routine brings church-style flavor to the sports therapy session, leading to a “blessing” moment and mock sermon (29:03).
  • “Now, y’all know at Faith Christian Baptist Church, we preach prosperity. Don’t put no change in here. God don’t like noise!” (27:16)
  • Panel and chat play along (“Come on, Pastor!” 24:48).

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4. Browns Training Camp QB Battle (Shedeur Sanders vs Deshaun Watson)

[35:33 – 42:24]

• Stats: Shedeur Sanders outperforms Deshaun Watson in practice (35:33).
  • Ocho: “Through five training camp practices, Shedeur Sanders is 72 of 107, six touchdowns, one interception. Deshaun Watson...three touchdowns, six interceptions.”
  • “Shedeur has been putting on a show every practice day.” (35:53)
• Debate: Who should start—Shedeur or Deshaun?
  • Ocho: says front office will default to Watson because of contract (“...simply because of the money…” 37:09).
  • Joe: “If you the head coach, if you tied monkey man, you trying to win some damn games.” (39:55)
  • Both agree preseason games will determine a lot.
  • Sharpe: “Everything is based on money with the way they think.” (41:17)
• On young talent: Praise for rookie receiver KC Concepcion (shoulder injury, but "expected to be fine" 42:24), and love for the Browns' nucleus with Isaiah Bond, Harold Fanning Jr., Junkin Judkins.

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5. AJ Brown’s Dislocated Thumb

[43:43 – 52:08]

• Update: AJ Brown dislocated his thumb at practice but intends to play through it.
  • “He’ll be fine, you just tape from the wrist, from the palm, right around the thumb and you’ll be fine...” (50:12)
  • Ocho and panel recount playing through finger/thumb injuries, make light of taping up and toughing it out.
  • Uncle Joe: “Ain’t nobody sitting out for no dislocated...No, that ain’t ... No.” (52:00)
• Receiver mindset: “If you cut that thumb off, you out there try to catch a ball…that thumb makes a big difference!” (51:11)

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6. Cowboys’ Offseason, Dak’s Comments, and Offense’s Ceiling

[63:23 – 71:01]

• Dak Prescott:

  • “I’m not going to shy away from it. When you don’t have it sucks...when you don’t get to play for it...there’s nothing worse than that.” (63:27)
  • Panel applauds Dak for not dodging expectations.

• Team breakdown:

  • Concern about paying multiple stars: “How you pay Pick [Pickens] 43 million and CeeDee Lamb’s your number one and making 34?” (65:41)
  • Sharpe: “He’s not going to give you a discount now because you put him in harm’s way. You made him swim in shark-infested water.” (66:21)
  • Debates on roster sustainability with two potential $40-million receivers.
  • Defense is still a big issue: “Can the defense stand up and do what they need to do when it matters most?” (68:47)

• Dallas offense self-names as G.O.T.I. (“Greatest Offense There Is”):

  • Ocho: “I thought you...you did something. The greatest show on turf—what did they do? Oh, did they win some right?” (69:06)
  • Sharpe: “You think it’d be better than the 07 Patriots?” (69:38)
  • Skepticism and humor around the self-anointing, “I said it isn’t. Don’t worry. They give themselves names, I give them one too.” (70:33)

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7. NFL Franchise Values & Ownership

[71:05 – 74:28]

• Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban: Jerry is open to selling a share to Mark Cuban if sharing ownership in the Cowboys.
  • “If I’m not mistaken, I think they value the Cowboys—Forbes—at 13 billion. So even 10%, that’s 1.3 billion, Ocho.” (71:50)
• Franchise inflation:
  • Seattle sold for $9.6 billion, owners get a piece.
  • Historic return on investment for the Broncos and Paul Allen’s Seahawks/Trailblazers sale cited as examples.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On KD and Superteams

• “They were 73 and 9. That’s the difference.” — Ochocinco (03:43)
• “You let KD go left...that’s your ass, Mr. Postman!” — Ochocinco (12:52)
• “Those guys could do plays in their eyes, closed in their sleep.” — Joe (11:36)

On Jalen Brown’s Disrespect

• “I feel like I’ve been a little bit disrespected in this process for whatever reason...for people that I thought value me...” — Jaylen Brown (19:37)
• “If she’ll cheat with you, she’ll cheat on you!” — Ochocinco, during preacher segment (24:36)
• “No man can outrun his past because all it does is makes you tired when it catches up with you.” — Ochocinco (18:57)

On the Browns QB Battle

• “You got to stay locked in because there’s no clear favorite.” — Uncle Joe (38:17)
• “Everything is based on money with the way they think.” — Uncle Joe (41:17)

On AJ Brown’s Injury

• “He’ll be fine. You just tape...you tape from the wrist, from the palm, right around the thumb, and you’ll be fine.” — Uncle Joe (50:12)

On Cowboys Pay Structure

• “He’s not going to give you a discount now because you put him in harm’s way. You made him swim in shark-infested water.” — Ochocinco (66:21)

On Franchise Values

• “If I’m not mistaken...they value the Cowboys...at 13 billion. So even 10%, that’s 1.3 billion, Ocho.” — Joe (71:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:55 — KD’s quote on Sixers vs Warriors debate
• 03:43 — Panel breaks down superteam context
• 07:18 — Discussion on LeBron’s age and historic comparison
• 11:36 — The value of team chemistry, vs pure talent
• 15:45 — Warriors’ front office and reliance on Steph Curry
• 19:37 — Jaylen Brown speaks about disrespect
• 24:36 — Pastor Shay segment: relationship & sports loyalty metaphors
• 35:33 — Browns QB camp—Shedeur Sanders vs Deshaun Watson
• 42:24 — Update on Browns rookie KC Concepcion
• 43:43 — AJ Brown's thumb injury discussion
• 50:12 — Panel on playing through hand injuries
• 63:23 — Dak speaks on Cowboys’ postseason frustration
• 65:41 — Cowboys’ cap and roster sustainability
• 69:06 — Cowboys name their offense G.O.T.I.
• 71:50 — Jerry Jones/Mark Cuban & NFL franchise values
• 74:28 — Closing discussion on franchise investments

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Summary

Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco serve up an action-packed, thoughtful, and hilarious sports talk show, blending real analysis, athlete experience, and comedic chemistry. From NBA superteams and the significance of chemistry vs. “on paper” talent, to behind-the-scenes front-office realities and player perspective on disrespect and injury, the episode delivers for NFL and NBA fans alike. The legendary “Pastor Shay” segment, rich panel insight, and constant banter make this episode a must-listen for fans seeking more than just box scores and highlights.

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[Ocho]

Katie said the Sixers are better on paper than the 1617 warriors.

[Joe]

Easy money.

[Ocho]

It ain't close.

[Joe]

Laugh my ass off. Joel Embiid, MVP recently. Jaylen Brown, recent Finals mvp. Tyrese Maxey, all star last three years. We all know what Braun does. Klay Thompson, never been an MVP candidate. And nothing, 22 points. Draymond 14, 7 and 6. Stephen, MVP just like Joel. I don't get how the warriors are better on paper. Let me tell you how, kd. The warriors had just went to back to back NBA Finals.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

This team didn't go to back to back NBA Finals. Steph had just won the MVP unanimously.

[Ocho]

There had never been a unanimous MVP since or before Steph Curry.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Excuse me. Yes, since before. Also. They were 73 and nine. That's the difference.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

73 and nine. One team got knocked out in the second round. The one team had with the back to back NBA Finals lost in the NBA Finals in a game. Seven.

[Joe]

That's the difference.

[Ocho]

You were 31. LeBron is about to be 42.

[Joe]

That's another difference. Other than that you're spot on.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Anybody that can't see that,

[Murder]

I like it. Well, you made some valid points. Now you made some valid points.

[Ocho]

I'm just. Oh, Joe. I'm just. It's not. It's not.

[Murder]

But it's a.

[Ocho]

It's. Let me ask you a question, Joe. Tell me the team that's won 73

[Murder]

games in a season ain't been but one.

[Ocho]

Tell me the guy that's been a unanimous MVP.

[Murder]

It ain't been but one.

[Uncle Joe]

It been two. Huh?

[Ocho]

It's been one.

[Murder]

Ain't been but one. LeBron.

[Ocho]

LeBron finished one vote short. Shaq finished one vote short. So those are the only time Jordan Neville was a unanimous mvp. We can't. We can't go back to the players because you do realize because before night before 1980, the players voted for the MVP.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So they took, they took. Players used to vote, but they said,

[Joe]

oh, man, we took, they took it away and gave it to them. Gave it to, you know, the, the writers.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So I, I, I get what KD's saying in theory. He said, hold on. Look at this loaded ass roster.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

If, if, if the Thunder goes, they

[Joe]

won last year, they lose to the Knicks this year.

[Ocho]

The Thunder knocked the Lakers out of the Western Conference finals. LeBron goes and links up with them at 32.

[Joe]

You got me?

[Ocho]

Yeah, you got me.

[Murder]

You know, you know, you know what? Durant basing it off. He not basing off LeBron's age. He's just basing off because his is LeBron James and how great he is. And it's a testament to his greatness that, you know, wherever he goes, it pretty much makes them a damn super team to some degree.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I mean, the funny thing about it is.

[Ocho]

No, no, no. People was thinking about what you call was a super team before KD got there. Ain't nobody thought. So who's, look at, hold on. Look at what their numbers were. They were. Even though Cleveland beat the warriors in the NBA Finals the following year before they got Kevin Durant. Who was the favorite to win the NBA final? Joe?

[Murder]

The Warriors.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Murder]

Yeah, so that's why I was so lopsided when KD joined. Cause we like, man, this shit unfair.

[Ocho]

They already, they already was the favorite. And now you get the second or third best player, whether you where you had him and Steph and LeBron rank. But he is a top five player.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Look, nobody thinks LeBron James.

[Joe]

Y' all know I'm the biggest LeBron fan. LeBron's not a top five player currently.

[Ocho]

Not. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold y'.

[Uncle Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all know. Y' all know what I think about LeBron.

[Joe]

He's not a top five player currently.

[Murder]

Oh, yeah. He finna come out and show y' all something this year. You got him bent.

[Ocho]

Oh, he go, Joe. I'm not saying that he can't play, but, Joe, think about what you're asking. You're asking a 42 year old let that sink in for a second. Joe, never in the history of the game.

[Murder]

I know. And we ain't never seen it, Unc. But I'm looking at how this man taking care of himself, bro.

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[Murder]

I just feel like he's so determined to win another title, whether he come out and say it or not. Oh, it ain't about Ring yet.

[Ocho]

Oh, he believes he can.

[Murder]

He wants yeah, he wants to win, man. And I think, for sure, I think he enjoys this stage of his career knowing that, you know, he, he's, he's closer to the end. I mean, being at 42, he's doing something that's never been done, man. This man, I, I think he's enjoying this moment. I think he's really, really trying to do whatever he can to capitalize on this moment as well. So people saying if he win this year, they don't think he gonna play again. I think he coming back.

[Ocho]

He ain't going out like that. Yes, yes, yes.

[Murder]

I think that man thoroughly enjoys playing the game. He thoroughly enjoys the preparation, because you can't have longevity in this game without those, bro.

[Joe]

I, I, I agree. I just think, I, I just think the thing is, Joe, is that

[Chat Participant]

he

[Joe]

not gonna win the. Even if he wins a title, they're not gonna give him his credit, Joe, you know that. Ojo know that.

[Ocho]

I know that.

[Murder]

But that's okay, because you've done something, somebody, and ain't nobody else in history has done, bro.

[Ocho]

Nobody's been Finals mvp. There have only been, there's only, They've only been two.

[Uncle Joe]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

Robert Ori and John. Sally and LeBron, I think, are the

[Joe]

only ones that's won championships with three different teams. LeBron obviously is, is, Is the one that won Finals MVP with three different teams.

[Ocho]

Now, let me tell you what happened. And I remember this. I don't know if you remember this, Joe. In 2019, the ground shook because Kawhi Leonard goes to the Clippers.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now, Kawhi Leonard was coming off a Finals MVP in Toronto.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

They said, kawhi Leonard go to the Clippers, win Finals mvp. He gonna pole vault. You know who. You heard that, didn't you, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, LeBron go do that. It ain't nothing. He got to go to three teams to win a championship. You see how they, you see how to flip the show just that quick?

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Just that quick.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now, I remember my good friend Kennedy, Jett Smith, you remember opening night, he said, Kawhi Leonard Make LeBron James look old. Made LeBron James look like he didn't need to be on the court with him. Do y' all remember what happened to him? That, that before, before they locked it down, LeBron put Bell to ass. He went to Milwaukee, did a demolition job on Giannis.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Did a demolition job and then brought it back. He said, why? I heard what they've been saying.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You haven't been and you never will be put built ass. Y' all saw it chat. You remember?

[Murder]

Yeah, I remember.

[Ocho]

You remember?

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And then what he do to him? He got him in the bubble lock last shot, guarded him. Kawhi said hot potato. You take it.

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[Ocho]

LeBron clamped him. Y' all better stop playing. Yeah, hey look, I get, I get what Katie's saying.

[Joe]

Katie said, look, they got all these 25 point scores.

[Ocho]

They got.

[Joe]

LeBron is that has average 25. Jordan beat his average 25. Max is average 25.

[Ocho]

And, and, and, and, and, and, and,

[Joe]

and, and, and JB is. I don't think anybody thought thinks this team is comparable to that team. Because the difference is JB has never played with those other guys before. Yeah, those guys had been playing together. Steph, Clay and Draymond. They could do plays in their eyes, closed in their sleep.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because they came up together. It's going to take some.

[Ocho]

It's going to take some time and reason why it was so easy for KD to blend in. Because KD didn't need the ball. The ball gonna find him. The ball is hot potatoes in, in, in.

[Joe]

In Golden State.

[Uncle Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

He's the most efficient, least, least usage guy that you're going to find in NBA history. Katie can get 16 shots and average 30.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

You're not gonna look. I get it. I saw James Harden at his peak. I saw Jordan at his peak. I saw Kobe at his peak. I saw LeBron, this seven foot walking assassin.

[Murder]

He different, bro.

[Joe]

I don't think we'll ever see anything like it, Joe.

[Murder]

No, who?

[Ocho]

Like Kevin Durant?

[Murder]

I don't know that damn Wimby, man. He. He showed me flashes, bro.

[Ocho]

I don't see no flashes. This man, Joe, this man has not shot less than 50% since 2012. He ain't no. He a big, but he ain't shooting with his back. He ain't getting no dunks and layups. He's shooting middies, he's shooting threes. And don't let him go left. You let him go left.

[Joe]

That's your ass.

[Murder]

Yeah. Once he put it in there, that's

[Ocho]

your ass, Mr. Postman. You let him go left.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You let him go run downstairs.

[Murder]

Yeah, he gonna rock.

[Ocho]

Run back up cold.

[Murder]

Yeah, he gonna rock you to sleep. You let him come up and put in their left hand. He put that left hand is going up.

[Ocho]

But see, he go and he gonna have a way out here.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Get you to go. Whoop, he back over here.

[Murder]

Oh, yeah. Like, oh, yeah.

[Joe]

It's A thing of beauty.

[Ocho]

You gotta see. You got to see him shoot the ball.

[Joe]

You got to see him shoot the ball. I mean.

[Murder]

Yeah, and he just. He fitted. He fitted seamlessly with that warriors team

[Ocho]

he fits in with anywhere. Yeah, because he don't need the ball.

[Murder]

But, Unc.

[On The Field Sports Host]

But when you.

[Murder]

When you playing with two of the best damn shooters ever played a game, man, think about this. You and you got Draymond, you got Draymond, who's so unselfish they can't w. You got. They got to play you straight. Come on, bro. You can't play. Dude, straight up, man. That man a whole bucket out there, bro.

[Ocho]

And now you go, okay, who you going? I just want to know who you going to double?

[Murder]

You can't. You can't.

[Ocho]

Well, we going to let step. Okay? So that means you going to let you go. Let your step just Clay, just spot and shoot, huh? Now you going to let KD work one on one. Oh, now you're gonna double kd and you gonna let Steph. I don't know if you'll ever see

[Joe]

anything like that again.

[Ocho]

Nope.

[Murder]

You got. You gotta have a person.

[Ocho]

Not those kind of shooters. Not those kind of shooters together. You need to have Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, and Larry Bird on the same team at the same time in their prime to have something comparable. Guys that can shoot the ball like

[Joe]

those three guys could. Joe.

[Murder]

Yeah. And not only that, Uncle Ocho, you gotta have cats who know how to play the game the right way, like Draymond. Okay, cool. They not gonna guard me. So even when I'm spotted up at three and my man don't help and that ball swinging me, I'm shoveling right to Steph Curry to come off me for a wide open three. Like, guys ain't thinking like that nowadays. That's a. That's like a. It's just like a trigger for. For Draymond when he catch it. He looking right to get one of them dudes an easy shot. So you gotta have a high IQ to play in a system like that. With shooters like that, like, it's roles that have to be fulfilled. You know what I mean? I think the warriors were so great at it. And then you get kd, man scoring asleep, bro. Come on. If they don't get KD here, Cleveland probably got another damn championship. Or two.

[Joe]

They got another two.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm not so sure. They lose the first one if Kyrie and Kevin Love don't hurt. You know, Kevin Love had dislocated his shoulder before he got there. And then Kyrie fractured his kneecap. Yeah, they're not beating them. Ah, yeah, they're not beating them. They're not beating them.

[Murder]

Nah.

[Ocho]

That's why they had to go get. They had to go get kd. They had to go. Go to the Hamptons, interrupt that man vacation hell. I'm mad at you, Wanda. Cause you should have told. You should have told him. Nah, he ain't in Katie.

[Joe]

That Katie ball.

[Ocho]

Why did. You should have told him. Nah, he ain't here right now. We enjoyed our summer vacation. The warriors hope for next season. Next season, depending on Steph Curry carrying

[Joe]

the load until Moses Moody and Jimmy Butler return from injury, per Marcus Thompson reminder. Steph is 38 years old, Joe. Now, it was reported that they turned down a trade for Jalen Brown and draft picks because they didn't believe Jalen Brown could carry the franchise.

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Bro.

[Ocho]

They.

[Joe]

They were willing to report.

[Ocho]

Sorry.

[Joe]

They wanted Giannis because they believe Giannis

[Ocho]

can, you know, like the Lakers. The Lakers. A perfect situation. Luca landed in their laps.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

A guy that could transition.

[Uncle Joe]

Boom.

[Joe]

Guess what? We can go ahead.

[Ocho]

We can let LeBron move on.

[Joe]

We got Luca. Warriors. Y' all might have to wait a long, long time.

[Murder]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Before somebody fall in y' all laps like Luca fell in the Lakers lap. What you thinking, Joe?

[Murder]

Man, go. You gonna probably have to get stuff out of there, Uncle. I'm gonna just keep it real, you know, Cuz, I just think for the warriors to compete in the Western Conference with Jimmy Butler and Moses Moody being sidelined pretty much the whole season. Come on, man. That man gonna need some help, bro. I'm talking about some help scoring that damn ball, too. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. We got. Hey, hey. You got to be able to get a bucket in this league, bro. The warriors ain't really make no adjustments.

[Joe]

I mean, they drafted nobody.

[Murder]

Nah. So I don't know what they banking on. Maybe they'll just, you know, do stuff a favor, bro. Maybe. Maybe send them somewhere to where, you know, he's still able to compete and play high level basketball.

[Ocho]

But what did. What did. What did JB do without Jason Tatum this year? That don't mean anything.

[Murder]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Ocho]

Come on, Ocho. That don't mean nothing.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, listen. I said it countless times, depending on the exec that you do. Ask the exec that make the. Make the decisions on bringing Jalen Brown in. To say something like that is egregious. It's egregious and it's insulting, you know, to somebody like Jalen Brown based off what he was able to do last year when Jason Tatum was out. But that's how they feel about you, though. That's how they feel about you. Now, that's more personal as opposed to. It is, what can he do for my franchise?

[Joe]

Whatever your pre draft is, he never living that down. What did they say? He think he's the smartest guy in the room. He might have other outside interests here. This man, all he's done is come in, keep his head down, ball his ass off, become an all Star, become all NBA a player, become a Eastern Conference mvp, a Finals mvp. And still we're talking about something that was a decade ago and is still following him to this day. Yeah, if I'm jb, y' all gonna say what you say. There's an old saying, Joe and Ocho, no man can outrun his past because all it does is makes you tired when it catches up with you. And if this what you think of me, that I'm too smart or I think I'm the smartest guy in the

[Ocho]

room, if you think I have my

[Joe]

other outside interest, I'm gonna let you run with that. I'm gonna let you have that. I'm gonna go on and make my money now. You know, some people, you say Milwaukee allegedly said they just felt that he was gonna want an extension. He's due a two year, $142 million extension. Maybe they're not going to want to do that. I don't know. I don't know. Here it is.

[Ocho]

JB spoke tonight on the street on

[Joe]

his stream about being disrespected. Let's take a listen what he had to say.

[Jaylen Brown]

Guys, I ever have. I'm more inspired to win than anything because I feel like I've been a little bit disrespected in this process for whatever reason. For people that I thought value me and everything that I brought to the team in the city, I found out quickly that may or may not be the case. So I want to win more than anything. So I'm looking forward to that journey, that approach, the leadership, the sacrifice and whatever it's going to take. But.

[Murder]

Yeah,

[Joe]

as somebody that's been where JB is, it's tough. It's tough when you think somebody loves you, but they don't love you like you thought they did. Ah, Ocho, you ain't hear me now?

[Murder]

I.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, I hear you now. I'm picking up what you're putting down,

[Joe]

you find out that the person that you loved didn't love you nearly as much as you love them. There are times that you.

[Ocho]

And, and, and, And.

[Joe]

And. You know, you're injured, and you go play. You're hurt, you go play. Your knees, your back. I hear the basketball, Joe. I hear you say it. My knees aching, my back aching.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I want to get out there. There's a lot of that going on. And I don't make this. I don't want to make this mutually exclusive to, To. To jb. But the way he went through and this. And it's just the blatant disrespect. But you should have had some clue, jb.

[Ocho]

Cause even though I might not love, she might not. I might not find. I might find out. But there are things she was doing that led me to believe that she didn't love me like I loved her.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Take your time. Come on, now.

[Ocho]

There are only so many girl trips I'm allowed you to go on.

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[Uncle Joe]

Come on, now.

[Ocho]

Cause I know.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, now.

[Ocho]

I done been to the place where the girl showed up.

[Murder]

Hello.

[Ocho]

But she on a girls trip. Hello. But, yeah, y' all ain't ready.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on.

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[Uncle Joe]

Come on, Pastor. Come on, Pastor.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Take your time.

[Ocho]

Take your time. First of all, you know when you call and you've been laying there and she talking to her guy. I'm sleep.

[Murder]

Oh, man.

[Ocho]

Huh.

[Murder]

Oh.

[Ocho]

And then you wonder why when she you call, she ain't picking up your call. You already know what it was.

[Murder]

Say it ain't so. Say it ain't so. Say it ain't so.

[Uncle Joe]

That ain't nothing but hey, hey. That we caught.

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[Murder]

You see it ain't so.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on now.

[Murder]

Huh.

[Ocho]

I don't went inside in the hallway. Hey, I want to hear your conversation. I'm sitting in the car. I'm sitting in the hall.

[Uncle Joe]

Take, take your time. Go ahead now.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. Cause, cause he make a turn. Hey, let me see you. He on FaceTime.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Let me see your room.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. So you lay low at place low. You lay low and play slow.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey. I've been there before.

[Ocho]

I hear him talking go. I'm in the closet.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, let me get out this closet. Okay. Give me a second. Let me cut the lights on. Every place she go, I'm leaving.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

So I just say, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna go on out here in this hallway. So Therefore, I don't got to worry about nothing.

[Murder]

Hello? Hello?

[Ocho]

But I've been there, boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, It's a game within the game. But. But do you think. You think. You know, Joe, you think Jaylen Brown may understand that the nature of this business has always been like this? He's been playing the game of basketball long enough, especially at the highest level in the NBA, to understand how dirty this business is. Once that stigma was out there that they feel he's smarter than everyone else in the room, you know, whatever it may be.

[Murder]

Oh, man.

[Ocho]

Y' all want the word tonight, right? Y' all say give y' all the word. I'm gonna give you the word tonight. Y' all want the word tonight. That's what I'm here for.

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Okay?

[Ocho]

Reverend Shakespeare, I done been there.

[Murder]

Yeah,

[Ocho]

hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Uncle Joe]

Before we start preaching, let me get the good book.

[Murder]

Uh oh.

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[Murder]

Oh, yeah. Uh oh. They weren't ready for this.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, wait, you. I got my good book now.

[Ocho]

Oh, revelation.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir. I'm with you when you write.

[Ocho]

You know how you met her?

[Uncle Joe]

Ooh.

[Ocho]

My grandfather used to always say, boy, if she'll cheat with you, she'll cheat on you. Hello. Hello, Hello.

[Murder]

Y' all ask.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, Pastor.

[Murder]

Hello.

[Ocho]

If a man will rob God, you. Will you not believe that a woman would cheat on you?

[Murder]

Hello.

[Ocho]

He's speaking rhetorically. He's speaking speaking metaphorically, because you can't rob the man. Yeah, but he's saying, you rob me in your tithe and your offering. Well, she cheat on you in your time when you the least expected.

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[Uncle Joe]

Come on, now.

[Joe]

Who was that?

[Ocho]

I was reading this.

[Joe]

I was reading the passage today.

[Ocho]

I don't know who it was. It. Who is that? But he said, be careful with the tongue, huh?

[Joe]

Because the tongue. There's sin in the tongue. So your tongue will cause you to sin,

[Ocho]

huh? JB had to find out what? All this talking, jb all this talking, all this. If you with someone and somebody constantly telling you, man, I saw your girl. I saw your girl, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man, check this out. You still widow girl. Yeah, yeah. Why you say that, man? I saw her off in the cut with some. Yeah, yeah, man, it probably was nothing.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

What you mean it wasn't nothing? Is she off in the cut and she my girl? The hell you say wasn't nothing? So this thing had been brewing, Joe. Every time somebody with a trade with the Celtics, JB name was the only one being brought up.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hell, they didn't even Mention Al Harford. They wasn't mentioning Holiday, they was mentioning JB.

[Joe]

The thing is, the blindest man is not the man that can't see. It's the man that chooses not to see. JB Chose not to see what was right in front of him.

[Uncle Joe]

JB know how dirty the business is. He got to understand that in all sports, the business is the business I'm gonna open up. Can't allow emotion to get.

[Murder]

Oh, man.

[Ocho]

Now, y' all know at Faith Christian Baptist Church.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

We preach prosperity.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Don't put no change in here. God don't like noise. God don't like noise, Joe. Now, he said in Malachi, he asked a very simple question. He said, would a man rob God? He's speaking metaphorically, as I said earlier because he knows you cannot rob God. He said, but you do it to

[Joe]

me in tithe and an offering.

[Ocho]

He says, if you tithe, he said, I'll open up the windows of heaven and pour a blessing out. You will not be able to receive it.

[Joe]

All the doors of the church are open right now.

[Uncle Joe]

And that's 10%. And that. That's 10

[Ocho]

on Christmas morning. Amen. Amen.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Lying in a manger. The little baby boy was born lying in a manger.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

He was gifted to a woman.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Bear, no kids. Yes, sir.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You will not stay in a place that you say is beneath you. But the greatest man to ever live was born in a manger.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

A little.

[Chat Participant]

Huh?

[Ocho]

The little shepherd boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on. Take your time.

[Ocho]

Oh,

[Murder]

yeah, man.

[Ocho]

Most gracious and holy Heavenly Father.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on.

[Ocho]

Come to thee in the most humble way I know how. A bowed head, humble heart on bent knee.

[Murder]

Wow.

[Ocho]

Thank you for all the many blessings

[Joe]

that you stored upon us.

[Ocho]

You've been better to me than I've been to myself.

[Joe]

And I want to say thank you, Father. You allow me to wake up early this morning. The blood was running warm in my veins.

[Ocho]

I had use of my limbs, and

[Joe]

I was in my right mind.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir, the Father. One day, my time on this earth is going to be up.

[Joe]

My face will become a looking glass. All I ask is that you give me a home somewhere in your kingdom. Ask all these blessings in your name.

[Ocho]

Amen and amen.

[Murder]

Amen. Hello.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

Y' all ain't ready. Y' all ain't ready for me.

[Murder]

Yes, sir. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Y' all ain't ready for. Y' all ain't ready for Pastor.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey. Hey.

[Ocho]

That.

[Uncle Joe]

That would. That would be. That the word that was the word right there. You hear me? Hey, that was the word.

[Murder]

I like when Pastor Shay. Shay, come on out, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, that was a good one. I like that there, boy. I like. I can get with that. We gotta have a pass, a Pastor Shay segment, you know, every so often.

[Murder]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe]

He's all right.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he's all right. You know what they cause I'm pressing on, Joe. I'm pressing up I'm trying to reach my heavenly home I've got a few more tears that I've got to shed A few more burdens I've got to bear I'm pressing on I'm pressing on I'm trying to reach my heavenly home. I got a granny van. When you're moving like I do, trips

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[Ocho]

A papa there and I'M just trying to make it in. Just trying to make it in.

[Uncle Joe]

I want you know, I. What you know about that, man?

[Ocho]

All right, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on. Church to close now. If you didn't come get that blessing,

[Joe]

we don't cut it off.

[Ocho]

The Browns could you be the Browns QB? Through five training camp practices, Shador Sanders is 72 of 107, six touchdowns, one interception. DeSean Watson, he's 71 of 115, three touchdowns, six interceptions. Dylan Gabriel is 40 of 58, three touchdowns, three INTs.

[Joe]

Shador has been putting on the show every practice day.

[Ocho]

5. The Brown training camp ended on a high note for the offense. Shador hit Gage Lavardin for a touchdown

[Joe]

on the final play as the offense went crazy.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, they got a nice little competition battle going over there, Uncle Joe. You hear me? They got a nice competition battle going over there on my Instagrams and on my Twitter feed. Obviously most of the team didn't. All of the teams in training camp, but I've been seeing most of the Brown stuff with Shador and brother Watson going at it. You know, this is really a good. This is a good thing to have. It's a good thing to have. It's a healthy competition between both of them. I love Shador. Right. And understanding the nature of the business being played for a very long time, would it come down to a lot of people in the chat, I want you to have a better understanding is I love to do. I would love for Shador to actually start. But you, you think about the business side of things and how much money they've poured into desean Watson. And now with him finally being healthy despite, I think what Shador may do, even if he's out playing him right now in training camp, you know, which he very well may be doing. I still think the Browns, you still

[Ocho]

think they're going to start desean simply

[Uncle Joe]

because of the money? That's it. Simply because of the money that they owe him. Hey, Joe, you. You, you understand how much he makes?

[Murder]

I get that, Ocho. But, but, but Todd Monkin ain't come over that man to be. He come over there to win. He come from a winning pedigree, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen. Hey, Joe, I'm with you and you're right. But Todd Monkey don't make the decision at the end of the day.

[Joe]

But that come from the man and what's the guy.

[Ocho]

What's the deal, Jimmy? But I think the thing is, Joe. No, Joe, me personally I think Shador is playing. I mean, he's playing, and we. Ocho, I agree. I agree with you, but I think Shador is outplaying him. He's so far playing so much better than desean is right now. Right now. Look, this is practice. We'll see.

[Joe]

We're going to find out in the preseason. How much does Shador play?

[Chat Participant]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Because there might be a situation if he only gets a series.

[Joe]

Excuse me, Chat.

[Ocho]

And desean goes in there, and they have to play more.

[Uncle Joe]

And, you know, and the funny thing about it, too, Uncle Joe, is I'm glad that the race is as tight as it is, because now it forces

[Joe]

both of them to stay locked in.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, you got to stay locked in because there's no. There's no clear favorite. There's no clear favorite.

[Murder]

You don't think so?

[Uncle Joe]

And I'm. I'm. And I'm. I'm just going from a business. A business aspect of it, thinking like. I'm thinking like an owner, man.

[Murder]

You go ahead and.

[Uncle Joe]

When you're paying somebody. When you're paying somebody that kind of money, Joe. And listen, you're gonna have to show

[On The Field Sports Host]

me what you do.

[Murder]

You got to understand, Ocho, we can't keep thinking about. We can't keep thinking back, Uncle Ocho, to when desean was in Houston, thinking, we gonna see that guy.

[Ocho]

We not seeing that, bro.

[Murder]

Everybody. Yeah, we're not seeing that.

[Ocho]

You gotta realize that was. I mean, he hadn't played. Think about it yet. His last season that he started, Joe,

[Joe]

he led the league in passing yards.

[Ocho]

But the next year, remember now, he. He didn't play that year. He sat out because that's when the news broke. So he sought out that year. Then he missed the first 11 games, played five games, comes back, gets hurt, missed about 10, 11 games, comes back, gets hurt, miss. So it's just hard to miss that kind of time at an athlete at this level.

[Joe]

Just hard. It's just hard.

[Murder]

Yeah, that. That rhythm and timing, bro, you can't. You can't compensate that. You know what I mean? For him being out for so long and then coming back, you know, with all them injuries bogged down, I really don't think the race that damn close. Me, myself, if y' all just want me to keep it 100. I don't think it's that close, bro. I just think you giving Deshaun. I think y' all giving desean the benefit of the doubt because of the money that he's making. But the iq, the eye test, when you out there, if you the head coach, if you tied monkey man, you trying to win some damn games.

[Joe]

Uncle, I agree.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, Uncle. Hey, Uncle Joe, Joe, I'm with you when you're right, you hear me? I want you to do shooter to start. I would love for. I would love for him to pick up. We left off last year. You got to stop thinking like how we thinking it.

[Ocho]

Think like outside.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you got to think like how them owners thinking, the one cutting them checks. I want the person who I'm paying 40 million a year to be behind center. Now, when he's not playing well and we behind the eight ball and not giving, giving us as a team a chance to win, then I'm making a move.

[Ocho]

Well, listen, I think. You know what, Ocho?

[Joe]

I think because they want to get off to a start, because they know

[Ocho]

if they start off slow, based on

[Joe]

that division, based on the afc, they can't.

[Ocho]

They're not going to be able to make it up. I think, I think they're leaning towards, I would say there's better than a

[Joe]

70% chance that your door starts.

[Murder]

That's what I'm saying, man.

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[Uncle Joe]

Yes, sir. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good one.

[Ocho]

I think the thing is, not ojo. I think they thinking they can win some games. Hey, we can win some games here.

[Uncle Joe]

Absolutely.

[Ocho]

Defensively, they locked down Denzel Ward. They got Jared Verse who's looking for a contract. He see where these numbers are going, so I expect him.

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He.

[Ocho]

Look, he's not Miles Garrett, but, But he ain't no damn slouch.

[Murder]

Hello.

[Ocho]

And I think he's going to have

[Joe]

a hell of a season.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, absolutely. And, and the people in the chat, Chat. I, I, I need y'. All, I need y' all to, to, to. To think like a owner, like a gm. Think, think, think ownership. Like, we love Shador. I'm sure all of us love Shador, but you have to also think like an owner when it come to making these decisions. Everything is based on money. With the way they think. I want, I want y' all to understand that as much as you, you just want to ignore it. You know what? Boom. I want you doing there. Yes, we all do. But that's not the way they operate. It's just not, you know, So I like the fact that what they have going on in training camp is a close race. It's a race where I'm hoping both quarterbacks don't play. Don't play timid. They play freely. Don't Be afraid to take chances, you know, because this is something that that team needs, is a quarterback that has the will and the free will to be able to play, you know, at, at his greatest peak. Because if you don't and you try to try to go out there and not, not, not play to, to your capability capabilities. Yeah, it's going to be on that bench.

[Joe]

Yeah. Brown's rookie wide receiver, Casey Concept, who left practice today with a shoulder injury after a hard fall, but he did not suffer anything serious. He's a team that expected him to be fine. First round pick. He's had a strong start. The training camp, we like him.

[Ocho]

We had Joe, you weren't on then, but we had him on.

[Joe]

A great young man. Overcame some things. You know, he had a speech impediment that he's working his way through. And you know, me and Ocho, we

[Ocho]

got him lightened up and you know,

[Joe]

talk about his girlfriend, what he's going to prepare for Valentine's Day. It was a great conversation. He was a great young man and so we want to wish him a speedy recovery.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But I, I, I like what the Browns have done in the off season. I Love Harold Fanning Jr. The receiver.

[Ocho]

What's the guy they got? Bond. Is it Isaiah Bond? Bond. Isaiah Bond.

[Joe]

Outstanding wide receiver Junkin Judkins can run the football.

[Murder]

Yep.

[Ocho]

They got a nice, nice little nucleus.

[Joe]

If Concepcion can, can, can get healthy. I like them.

[Ocho]

Jerry. Jerry. Judy got to step up. It's really that simple. Joe Ocho, he, he's got to step up.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

He's the vet. He's the veteran on the team now it's time for him. He's a top draft. He was a former Belitnikov award winner, a big time player at Alabama. Had a great his first year there. He was sensational.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's time for him to get back to that.

[Ocho]

Judy, you, that type of receiver. If you, if you believe, if you are what you believe you are and what you showed your first year there,

[Joe]

you got to duplicate that. You got to be able to make those plays for your door.

[Chat Participant]

Absolutely.

[Murder]

I seen J. Judy vouching hard for Deshaun Watson too.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I guess that was tick tock.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. That was tick tock and Instagram.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But you, hey, that stuff gets you in trouble now.

[Murder]

You can't do nothing nowadays.

[Ocho]

I mean, I'm not, Don't even ask me nothing about my teammates because I ain't got nothing for you. Cause you're gonna tell you, you go because you're Gonna take can be perceived as a slight, I think.

[Joe]

Who's that?

[Ocho]

Jalen hurts.

[Joe]

He was saying something about everybody buying

[Ocho]

in and such and for. And you know what. How they gonna take. Why you. What you think he's saying? You know how that's gonna be construed?

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Everybody buying it. You already know.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ocho]

So anytime you say something, look, hey, my job is to go out there

[Joe]

and make plays for whomever the quarterback is.

[Ocho]

That ain't my job. They don't give me no extra salary.

[Joe]

Say, with Shadow, we're gonna pay you extra 15, $20,000, $100,000 to help us decide who gonna be the quarterback.

[Ocho]

Until they put that right. That in my claw, I ain't got nothing to say. Whoever throw me the ball. I'm catching, I'm coming down with it. Y' all make that decision.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Because I already know y'. All. Y' all ain't f. To put me against my teammate Detroit. Oh, well, Shannon said. Shannon ain't say nothing.

[Murder]

You're absolutely right. That's how they gonna. They twist it up like that every time, man.

[Ocho]

They. They clip.

[Murder]

Bait your clip for me. Next thing you know, they got you saying something outland. It seemed like.

[Joe]

I just think the biggest thing is, is that they're gonna have to protect your door. Obviously, he's not the most. He's a. He's a prototypical old school 50sixties.

[Ocho]

Well, 60s, 70s, 90s quarterback.

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[Joe]

He's a pocket passer.

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Yeah.

[Murder]

He is a good one, too.

[Ocho]

He's a very good one. You're gonna have to. Yeah. He's not a guy that's gonna. He's not Josh Allen.

[Joe]

He's not Lamar Jackson in the pocket.

[Murder]

He.

[Joe]

He's a Tom Brady pton Manning that

[Ocho]

can slide, you know, phone booth quickness.

[Murder]

Yeah. Quick step there.

[Ocho]

Quick step there and get the ball.

[Joe]

But he also is gonna have to know. You know what? Sometimes, son, they got.

[Uncle Joe]

I can't hold the ball.

[Joe]

Hey, it's second and 12.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Or second and 10.

[Joe]

It's 30. Throw the ball away.

[Ocho]

Just don't. Don't.

[Joe]

Don't make a situation worse by taking a sack, getting knocked out of field goal range. Oo. Putting the ball in harm's way. Fumbling the ball harm's way. And I think having this. Those last. Well, I don't know how many games, what he started last six, seven games. Ocho. Something like that. I think that. I think that's going to go a long way with it, because there's nothing like playing yeah. You can learn, like, okay. Yeah, okay. I see some things. You go ask the guy at the quarterback what they see and why do they do this and why they do that, but at some point in time, you have to get your ass out there.

[Murder]

Hello.

[Ocho]

I can tell you how to fish. I can tell you what lure to use, but at some point in time, Ocho Joe, you got to go fish for your damn self.

[Uncle Joe]

You got to.

[Tony Ayo]

Me.

[Ocho]

So hopefully.

[Joe]

Hopefully, it's your door. Has learned some things from last year's. He's able to follow that. I was great to see his old. His old man time out there with him talking through some things. I know that was been a topic of discussion, him being on the. Him being on the field.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's that man's son. The gate, the practice. Y' all make it seem. They made it seem like the man on the damn field doing practice. Practice over.

[Murder]

And hey, and I like what Todd Monkey came out and said. He was like, man, I'll be. I'm glad he's here. Like, you know what I mean? Like, welcoming him with open arms, bro. Like, I don't think, you know, we can't sit back here and turn a blind eye to what happened last year and who the head coach was. And obviously, things that they've been through, you know, with the Sanders family, they played a major role. Man, I don't care what nobody say for sure did.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm looking at people in the chat. You know how you read off the stats? Practice people in the chat talking about. It's not even close. Oh, the interceptions, man. Chat, man. Y', all. They are not basing anything on who's starting based off the intercept. You throwing a goddamn practice. You're playing against a team where everything is scripted. Relax. My goodness, man.

[Ocho]

And they be cheating. Defense be cheating. They'd be looking at the place.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, because they. They know what's coming.

[Ocho]

They do.

[Uncle Joe]

They call the right defense purposely for the play that they're running, hoping the quarterback makes the right decision with the ball on where to go with the ball.

[Ocho]

The time they don't get description is two minutes. Yo, that's the only time you go for what you know. We going for what we know.

[Murder]

Damn.

[Uncle Joe]

Now, y'. All. Y' all are tripped, man. Now on Sundays. Hey, it's fair game now. You throwing them interceptions on Sundays.

[Joe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Uncle Joe]

That's another. Now, that's another thing.

[Ocho]

But look, the one thing I do know is time.

[Joe]

That Tom has always been scrutinized. He's Always been the best. And so it comes with a lot of scrutiny. He understands that. He's done a great job of handling that scrutiny, but he's been a devout father above anything else. Whether, no matter what you think of him, he love his kids.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And he. If y' all think.

[Joe]

Y' all criticizing him, what's being written about him, what's being said about him, what's being talked about him and that he's gonna change his love for his kids. Nah, no chance.

[Murder]

No, sir.

[Joe]

No chance whatsoever.

[Murder]

Ain't supposed to.

[Joe]

He's been there and stand. Stay in the fight time. Get it right.

[Ocho]

AJ Brown says he dislocated his thumb in Monday's practice.

[Joe]

It's tough. I tried to get back into the flow state zone really quickly because obviously you're going through some pain. The game is what it is. You're going to get bumps and bruises, and you have to keep going. I know it's practice, but I'm not coming out of practice. Thumb out of place. You keep going. AJ dislocated the same thumb back at Ole Miss in 2018. Ocho, what is the biggest concern about a receiver dislocating his thumb?

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, none at all. Especially with dislocated thumb. He'll be fine, Uncle Joe. You just tape. You tape from the wrist, from the palm, right around the thumb, and you'll be fine. Take somebody, take some of that pressure off. They put a little pad and right here, in between. In between. In between the thumb area right on the palm.

[Murder]

He'll be fine.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Murder]

Catching the ball and people slapping, sticking

[Ocho]

their hand in there.

[Murder]

That's a nagging injury.

[Ocho]

If they didn't report it, I would have told that. Because I'm gonna slap if I'm gonna do.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, you good, Joe. I didn't play with this location. My dislocated pinkies on both hands, Joe. All I did was they tape underneath, tape it together. Once they take my. Once they take my palm and the finger. I put my glove on and I taped. I taped the two fingers. He'll be fine.

[Ocho]

Oh, you dislocated your thumb or your.

[Uncle Joe]

But both my pinkies at the same time. You see them things.

[Murder]

That thumb make a big difference, bro.

[Ocho]

You. Hey, just think about it. If you cut that thumb off, you out there try to catch a ball.

[Murder]

Come on, man. Come on. Oh, that thumb. That thumb makes a big difference.

[Ocho]

It hurt because if you don't catch that.

[Murder]

All right.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe.

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Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know, sometimes you catch them all wrong and it hurt anyway.

[Murder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

In your hand. Your fingers are good. What I did is I have. I used to wear. I wore a thumb guard because mine was slipped.

[Uncle Joe]

I had a.

[Ocho]

My mind would slip out easy. So I put a thumb. A thumb guard to keep it from being bent back or still keep it

[Joe]

from going like that.

[Ocho]

But like you said, Ocho, some people do tape it. A lot of d. Linemen take their

[Joe]

hands like that, get boxers fists and stuff like that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, because they're constantly shooting, and you get.

[Joe]

Get your thumbs bent.

[Ocho]

But that is painful.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it is.

[Ocho]

It is, man.

[Uncle Joe]

It is.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

They want 1. Wait 1. One thing about it is, ain't nobody sitting out for no dislocated. No, that ain't. No.

[Murder]

I ain't saying they gonna sit out, but it. It's gonna linger a little bit. Hey, man, you don't understand how much you need all your fingers and your toes until one of them get hurt.

[Joe]

Hey, until when I'm hurt, you ain't

[Ocho]

gonna tell me nothing.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I haven't been there.

[Ocho]

This was my right.

[Joe]

I had the thumb guard. I. I ain't got incident still in my locker. And. Well, it's tape. It's back in Denver. But the thing is, you know what's

[Ocho]

so hard, Joe OO.

[Joe]

And this is what I always, always was afraid of, Joe oo. Is that going to a new team and get hurt.

[Ocho]

Dang it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Murder]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Getting a word, you know. You know, I keep.

[Ocho]

You know, I keep you on standby, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, what. What that. Hey, I thought you had on some purple and gold. Hey, uncle, you pledge omega?

[Ocho]

Oh, no. Hell no. The wonder twins. Remember the wonder twins activate form of a glacier.

[Murder]

I do.

[Ocho]

Form of a polar bear.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, I don't know.

[Murder]

You don't remember the one of twins OO watching cartoon. I a see.

[Uncle Joe]

I a see that one, Chad.

[Ocho]

I know y' all remember.

[Uncle Joe]

I. I thought. I thought uncle was omega Joe.

[Murder]

Nah, nah, nah. Unc don't take me. He don't take me for that type.

[Uncle Joe]

He shoot, man. Unc number one on this show. What you mean he don't take you for that type?

[Murder]

Oh, oh, you. You saying, oh, no, no, no. He number one for damn sure.

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[Ocho]

Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. Yeah.

[Murder]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[On The Field Sports Host]

He.

[Murder]

You for show number one. No, I just don't see him doing all that wild stuff, you know.

[Ocho]

Great turnout. We had a great turnout. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I. I'll hook you up. You all hook you up to a place, great food, great atmosphere. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Murder]

I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't want to pig out, but them group of bites was jumping.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, well, y. Y' all want.

[Murder]

My bad. I ain't mean to talk to you.

[Ocho]

My.

[Murder]

My bad. My bad. My bad.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, man, y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Uncle Joe]

Y' all went somewhere without.

[Ocho]

Hey, Joe, they calling me creflo. No dollars in the chat. Hey, yeah, y' all know I pass the TD fakes.

[Joe]

Look at it.

[Murder]

Look at it. Yeah.

[Ocho]

No, but I think that. I think that's the frustrating part about.

[Joe]

About AJ Is that he got what he wanted. He wanted to be. He wanted.

[Ocho]

He wanted out of Philly. Good, bad, indifferent.

[Joe]

You can say whatever you want. Hey, it worked out well. He went to. Went to a. Went to Pro bowl, went to two Super Bowls. They won one.

[Ocho]

But I. But I told Ocho this. I said, ocho, if you win the super bowl and you go to Pro Bowls and you still not happy, Ocho,

[Murder]

it's gonna be hard to leave.

[Joe]

It's just time to leave.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, it was time.

[Ocho]

I mean, Joe, that's like. Okay, Joe, you become an All Star. You go. You win the champions. You get to go to two NBA Finals. You win one.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And you like, man, it ain't. Ain't what I thought it was. I thought it was gonna be.

[Murder]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a slap in somebody face. Y' all know it.

[Uncle Joe]

You know what he want. Unk. He want that ball. That's one of the things he complained about a lot, not being able to get the ball as much as he like.

[Ocho]

Cause you know why? Ocho, tell her why. You see what Puka doing? You see what JSN doing? You see what Chase doing?

[Uncle Joe]

Wait, hey, hold on. You do remember when we talk about the top five. The top five receivers in the league, A.J. brown name was always in that conversation. Right? That name is. His name is no longer in that conversation, despite the Eagles winning. You know, I mean, listen, I know it's supposed to be a team sport. Yes, it is that. But also, along with it being a team sport, you still want to remain one of the best at you. Absolutely. Position. When the conversations come up about the position that you do play, and his name was completely out of it. I can tell you one thing. This year in that offense where they throw the hell out the goddamn ball, his name is gonna be back in that top five conversation. Hey, I can tell you that, because if Stefan Digg could Do what he did last year coming off a goddamn acl. What you think a healthy AJ Brown finna do?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But the thing is, even though. Then. Though. I don't know, Ocho. Cause, you know, Puka still got.

[Ocho]

He still got Matthew Stafford, and Chase still got Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

I understand. I understand. And I saw Drake May play last year. Drake May had a hell of a season.

[Joe]

JSN. JSN is like, hey, I kind of

[Ocho]

like being a 99. I don't know how Pookie in the 99. How Pooka's not a 99.

[Uncle Joe]

He will be on.

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[Uncle Joe]

You know, I'm in charge of the ratings. I know a lot of people complaining. A lot of people complaining about the ratings and why. Who was this? And who is that? Everybody's exactly what they supposed. Some people need. Hey, hold on. Some people need a little bit motivation.

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[Uncle Joe]

Why they not a 99? Okay, now, I wish y' all in the chat that play Madden, let me do my job. I got people. I got people charting exactly what they need to be.

[Chat Participant]

Huh?

[Uncle Joe]

Just to add a little bit before the season start. I know what I'm doing.

[Ocho]

They need to give me some. They need to give me some platinum shoes. Because, Joe, I was 100 at one point, and, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. That's. That's back when they didn't know what.

[Ocho]

They don't do that. Ooh. I guess who else was a hundred? Barry Sanders.

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[Ocho]

Deion Sanders.

[Murder]

Hold on, hold on. To be a hunting. Now you got to be that boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah. Hey, uncle. That boy. Now, we don't see him playing. Act like he.

[Murder]

Oh, that's what you're telling me.

[Ocho]

That was him.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I like that now.

[Ocho]

I really was, Joe. I really was.

[Murder]

What he grabbing over there now?

[Uncle Joe]

Probably one of them helmets I gotta

[Joe]

take to my guy at BMW.

[Ocho]

He hooked me. He hooked my car up.

[Uncle Joe]

Every time I go, would he gave you some rims?

[Ocho]

No, no. I had a boat in my tire. What the hell is that a boat? I had a.

[Joe]

Like.

[Ocho]

It was not a nail.

[Joe]

It's a boat. Yeah. And it.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't never heard. I never heard that before.

[Joe]

I did.

[Uncle Joe]

How the hell you get a boat in your tire?

[Joe]

Don't start.

[Ocho]

Middle line. But it was in there. But no, but we go get that. But I just. I just hate that for AJ Because I remember when I went to Baltimore, guys and.

[Joe]

And OTAs I tweaked Miami,

[Ocho]

man.

[Murder]

That's the same thing. I remember. I told y'.

[Tony Ayo]

All.

[Murder]

That's the same thing happened to me when I signed with the Hawks that same summer, bro. I'm playing flag football in Tweak Miami. Yeah man, that thing linger all the way halfway through the season when you're

[Ocho]

moving like I do.

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[Joe]

Bro.

[Ocho]

Oh Dak Prescott's patience is wearing thin with year 11 with the Cowboys. Going into year 11, I'm not going to shy away from it when you don't when you don't have it sucks when you don't get to play for it when you're not. When you're watching other teams in the playoffs like there's nothing worse than that. Why shy away from it now? Why shy away from people asking, holding me to the same standard that I believe I can accomplish and.

[Joe]

And the team can accomplish.

[Ocho]

Ojo, what's really going on?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I like that.

[Murder]

I like that, too.

[Uncle Joe]

Talk your junk, Jack.

[Murder]

I like it, too. Don't shy away from it. But at the same time, we get in that damn same position we was in when Green Bay came in our house and put up 48, 47. Come on, man.

[Uncle Joe]

47.

[Ocho]

Green Bay did it to you, and it wasn't the office, and then the Rams did it to you. Everybody just be beat. Y' all down, though, Joe.

[Murder]

All right, that, that. That's enough. Not too much, not too much. Hey, not too much.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Joe. Can I tell you something? Joe? I like the Cowboys. You hear me? I ain't got no problem with the Cowboys. Now, I know I made fun and I. I was kind of upset that I knew they was going to play games with. With Young, with NBA young, with NBA NFL Young boy. And not really give him his money, make him prove himself again, which is obviously, to me, all that is, is the ownership saying, we don't believe you can do it again, and we don't trust you to give you what we think you. You're worthy of long term. I, eh, boom, whatever. He signed it, he gonna play, he gonna repeat it again. The Achilles heel for the Cowboys. And the only issue the Cowboys are going to have is what are they going to do on defense? Offensively, they're juggernaut. They're going to be straight. As long as CD Stay healthy and pick and stay healthy, you have a very, very good running back and that can get it done for them. It's going to be defense. What are we going to do defensively? Can't, for one, can we stop the run?

[Joe]

I think the thing is, Jerry said that he has a. They got an opportunity now. He was talking about the Max Crosby.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And they said, well, why didn't you revisit it?

[Joe]

Jerry said, who said?

[Ocho]

We didn't. Oh, now the reports are that he has a tree there. There. He's talking to a team about.

[Joe]

He didn't say offensively.

[Ocho]

He didn't say defensively. I think they're loaded at.

[Joe]

On offense. I think they have enough offensively. I think defensively, yeah, they can definitely use another pass rusher.

[Ocho]

I heard the problem that I believe they're going to have, even if it's not during the season, how you pay pick 43 million and CD lambs your

[Joe]

number one and making 34.

[Ocho]

Man, listen, you know that's going to be the problem, Ocho. You already know it.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. And listen, it's a good problem to have. It's a good problem to have. I just don't see how it's going to happen somebody, that's what I'm saying.

[Ocho]

That's my point. With him signing in Dallas, I'm not saying he's not gonna get his money, but it's just gonna be hard to give him. And, and now you, Joe, the problem that the Cowboys are going to run into is that you made him play

[Joe]

that one year on that franchise tag.

[Ocho]

So he's not going to give you

[Joe]

a discount now because you put him in harm's way. You made him swim in shark infested water. You made him walk across the, the Savannah with the Lions.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So now I got to tax you.

[Ocho]

So now there's a 20 tax on what I would have, what I would

[Joe]

have made on top of that.

[Murder]

Hey, I, I agree, I agree. What year is this CD Lamb in his contract? When this contract go, Ocho, he signed

[Ocho]

a four year extension. So he probably, what, two years into a Joe Ocho? If you sign a four year extension, I think he signed four years, which means he had two years still left on the, the.

[Joe]

So basically, so basically it was a six year deal. So normally after the three years, they tear it up because you start getting to the back where there ain't no more guarantees.

[Ocho]

But you got big, big cap hits.

[Joe]

And so now we just like, okay, we're gonna give you another 55, 60 million dollars, put more vulnerable years on the end and we'll just kick the can down the road. But I, I, I, it's just gonna, it's just gonna be hard to see your number one. And then you pay your number one making 34, and the other guy comes in, he's making 43, 44.

[Murder]

But he gonna come back up though, and he gonna, he gonna get, he gonna get his money again, though.

[Ocho]

So you gonna have two receivers making 40 million.

[Murder]

Man, if we win it, we ain't got no choice.

[Uncle Joe]

Ooh, that ain't, that ain't happening.

[Ocho]

You do realize if you win the super bowl, how much you gonna have to pay Dakota?

[Murder]

Yeah, I'm sure, Jerry. I'm sure.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I can tell you this. 88 ain't going nowhere.

[Murder]

Nah, you hear me?

[Uncle Joe]

88 ain't going nowhere.

[Ocho]

Jerry. Draft.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, I just don't see, I just don't see a scenario where they can with Pickens, who is going to have another good year. CD Going to have another good year, you know, and I think Pickens won't be there after this season. I'm hoping. I'm hoping they can come out the NFC and compete for a championship, you know, and. And. And make everybody happy after a very long wait, including. Including you, Joe, and other Cowboys fans. But just. I mean, listen, it's a good situation to have, and while you have them there, you want to make the most of the opportunity right now. You want to make the most of the opportunity you have right now. With such a crazy offense, just can the defense stand up and do what they need to do when it matters most?

[Joe]

The Cowboys have a new name for their offense. G O T I Greatest offense there is.

[Murder]

Damn. We putting that pressure. We. Hey, hey, hey. We want all the smoke, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Murder]

Honestly, Joe take his glasses off when he said that.

[Ocho]

I thought you normally. Oh, normally. You got. You did something. The greatest show on turf. What did they do? O. Did they win some right?

[Uncle Joe]

You right. Yeah, they did. They did. But can I. Can I. Can I say something?

[Murder]

The.

[Ocho]

The. The monsters of the midway, the purple people's eaters. They did. Curtain. Come on, Joe. Y' all used to be had a doomsday defense, right?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, uncle, can I say something, though? Hey, that offense is hell though, Uncle Joe. That offense.

[Ocho]

You think it'd be better than the 07 Patriots?

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, ain't nobody gonna be better than those.

[Ocho]

Will it be Better than the 13 Broncos? 606 points, 5,477 passing yards, five guys with double digit touchdowns.

[Uncle Joe]

Nah, completely different. Completely different type of offense. But I tell you one thing, it's gonna be.

[Ocho]

What about the 98 Vikings?

[Murder]

Hey, hey, why?

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, that's bombs over bad.

[Murder]

Hey, man. Hey, y' all just respect. Hey, respect our confidence. Respect our grind, man.

[Ocho]

The greatest. The greatest offense.

[Joe]

That is it.

[Murder]

Oh, man.

[Ocho]

Cause you ain't did nothing.

[Murder]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn that. Damn. You just caught that one.

[Ocho]

Well, they said it is, I said it isn't. Don't worry.

[Murder]

We go. Hey, we're gonna show y'.

[Angela Yee]

All.

[Ocho]

Don't worry about it. Hey, they give themselves names, I give them one too. Hell it. Yeah, I'mma blame it on you. With everybody.

[Murder]

Ass.

[Joe]

I'm gonna say, man.

[Ocho]

Okay, but with that.

[Murder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, I tell you one thing. Them boys. Them boys gonna be fireworks on offense. I tell you that.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Healthy. Well, they.

[Murder]

They.I. okay.

[Joe]

Greatest offense that is.

[Ocho]

Go ahead, Joe. There is Jerry Jones ever decided to

[Joe]

sell ownership shares outside of investors in the future. It sounds as though he's considered Mark Cuban. That's exactly why, if you're me, you would be open to that because of the man. I have all the respect in the world for him, and I know what the map. What he did for the Mavericks, and he's done for basketball. So you want to associate with the highest quality. Quality of a person who loves the game, and then also it's time wants to do something about it. Mark leads the way in that aspect. If I'm not mistaken, I think they value the Cowboys. Forbes at 13 billion. So even 10%, that's 1.3 billion, Ojo. And now you saw the.

[Ocho]

What you call. Just went for what, 9.6 billion, Seattle.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Every owner get a cut of that. Y' all do realize that when they sell their franchises, every owner get a cut of that.

[Murder]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So I don't know. Look, it's hard to break because it's so perfect now. You got 32 teams, Ojo. You got eight, Joe. Eight, four divisions. You can't get any more perfect than that.

[Joe]

But 10, 12 billion. It's hard to say.

[Ocho]

Nah, we.

[Joe]

We don't want to expand.

[Ocho]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Murder]

Hey, man, we need to put. We need to piece up a little bit, man, see if we can get us a little. What's up? We.

[Ocho]

Guess all I can. All I can afford is the Gatorade. I got the Gatorade. I got the Gatorade for about two, three years. I ain't even to hold nobody. But, hey, once upon a time, man. Think about it, Joe, what you.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, what you trying to do?

[Murder]

I'm trying to get you an uncle to jump in.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, I'm. I'd rather. I'd rather, you know, put my little money towards a soccer club.

[Murder]

Okay?

[Uncle Joe]

Put a little, you know, 5, 10%, you know. You know, somebody I can see. See me a little return, you know, five, ten years from now.

[Murder]

Okay.

[Joe]

I mean, I think if Smith, Robert Smith, he's one of the richest black men in America. I think he's worth about eight, eight and a half, $9 billion, I think. You know, at one point, people thought that he was gonna purchase the Broncos, which would have been a good investment. Cause in three years, they've increased 2 billion. Two and a half. $2.2 billion. They've gone from 4.5 to 6.8 billion in two years. Hell of a return on your investment. Hell, I remember when Allen bought

[Ocho]

the

[Joe]

Seahawks from Ken Barry.

[Ocho]

It might have been less than 200 million.

[Joe]

Just sold for 9.6 billion. And he sold and he sold. They chose the trailblazers for 4.3 billion. So that's about. That's about what? 4, 13? That's about 14 billion right there. One swoop.

[Uncle Joe]

That's crazy.

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