BEST of RELATIONSHIPS Part 2: HALL PASSES, What to EAT on 1st Date, the ONE that GOT AWAY for all THREE

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – BEST of RELATIONSHIPS Part 2: HALL PASSES, What to EAT on 1st Date, the ONE that GOT AWAY for all THREE

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), Gil
Date: July 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This “Nightcap” episode dives deep into the realities of modern relationships, as NFL legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, joined by Gil, tackle topics ranging from relationship struggles and trust to viral “hall pass” requests and legendary stories about love lost. With their signature candor and humor, the trio explores expectations, heartbreak, and the pressures of dating in the spotlight, all while unpacking how their personal experiences shape their outlooks on love.

Themes: Vulnerability, honesty, relationship expectations, dating economics, trust, and life after heartbreak.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Makes a Relationship Last?

• Having Fun vs. Enduring Together
  • Ocho reflects on finding not just someone to have fun with, but “someone to suffer and endure with.”

    "I found somebody that I can suffer with, I can endure with. Because you can have fun with anybody, right?”
    (Ocho, 05:54)

  • Joe builds on this:

    “When it's cloudy and it's storming and it's raining, they got the umbrella for you.”
    (Joe, 06:44)

• The Importance of Communication
  • Ocho discusses the danger of “uncommunicated expectations” in relationships:

    "Uncommunicated expectations will ruin a relationship. Because you have an expectation and you don't communicate... you assume I'm supposed to know.”
    (Ocho, 13:19)

2. How Do You Know 'They’re the One'?

• No Set Timetable
  • Unc and Ocho agree that you “just know” when someone’s the one, but only after things get tough, not just when everything is going right.

    “When it goes bad, it's bad... We're gonna have a conversation.” (Ocho, 10:09)

3. Avoiding Tough Conversations

• Both Ocho and Joe admit to avoiding tough talks to keep the peace—something they both say needs work.

  “When I see chaos, I kind of go into a shell... I shut down instead of having those tough conversations.”
  (Joe, 10:56)

4. Compromising & Changing for Love

• Men often change for the women they love, sometimes at the cost of losing themselves.

  “In trying to keep a woman happy long term, you have to lose a sense of self.”
  (Joe, 16:54)

• They emphasize finding the balance between self-improvement and sacrificing core identity.

  “How do I become the best version for you without losing me?”
  (Ocho, 16:35)

5. Viral ‘Hall Pass’ Story [22:11]

• The hosts weigh in on a viral Reddit post where a bride-to-be asked for a “hall pass” before marriage.

  “A hall pass? You gonna be in the hall? ...Don’t you remember in school, you get in trouble, you go sit in the hall?”
  (Ocho, 22:11)

• Joe: “They never marry who they want to. They marry who they can.”

  (Joe, 24:49)

• The trio agrees: uncomfortable, honest conversations about desire and boundaries are crucial long before the wedding.

6. What to Eat on a First Date & Dating Economics [31:19]

• Discussion of a viral story: Woman on a first date orders an extravagant meal, leaving the guy to cover most of the bill.
• The hosts debate dating “investment”: starting too big can set unsustainable expectations.

  “If I take somebody on the first or second date and I get a private plane, what I got to do next? Get the space shuttle?”
  (Ocho, 33:10)

• Advocating for “simple” starts, they suggest picnics, burger joints, and being clear about intentions.

  “Are you trying to be a partner or you trying to get sponsored? I just need to know.”
  (Ocho, 36:03)

7. Double Standards & Contributions

• Ocho calls out the tendency for some to show up with only “appetite”:

  “Bring something to the picnic besides your appetite, please.”
  (Ocho, 38:44)

• The group riffs on transactional dynamics in dating (“even swap ain’t no swindle”) and the advertising of assets (appearance, money).

8. Trust: What’s Forgivable? [53:00+]

• Gil shares a story about being betrayed by a friend and a partner (walked in on them together in Vegas).

  “After when I seen that... I was like, okay, this is how they really move. And I was like, oh, yeah. This is the game plan.”
  (Gil, 57:12)

• Trust violations are mostly seen as deal-breakers, with little room for “grace.”
• Ocho: “If you got to manage your expectations with a wife, why did y’all even get married?”

  (Ocho, 65:23)

9. The One That Got Away [73:27]

• All three reflect on heartbreak, “the one that got away,” and life after deep relationships.
• Ocho:

  “Had I known then what I know now. That's the thing about hindsight. It's a magnificent science.”
  (Ocho, 74:33)

• Joe’s grandmother’s wisdom:

  “The same way you got them is the same way you're going to lose them.”
  (Joe, 68:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Surviving Heartbreak:

  “The quickest way to get over one woman is to get under another one… but nah, in all seriousness, it took a while, it was tough…”
  (Ocho, 70:31)

• On Competition & Loyalty in the Sports World:

  “Depending on who's asking, even if she's with you, your girl is single.”
  (Joe, 61:23)

• On Expectations and Reality:

  “A person's perception of you, that's their reality. But that's not always the truth.”
  (Ocho, 15:17)

• On Bringing Something to the Table:

  “How about this, Ocho, bring something to the picnic besides your appetite, please.”
  (Ocho, 38:44)

• On Men Changing for Love:

  “He will change. Joe will cut off his family, he'll cut off his friends... to make her happy.”
  (Ocho, 17:16)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 05:32 – Ocho on finding someone to endure hardship with
• 10:09 – How to know someone’s “the one”
• 13:19 – Uncommunicated expectations as relationship killers
• 22:11 – Viral “hall pass” story discussion
• 31:19 – Dating economics & viral first date meal debate
• 38:44 – “Bring something to the picnic besides your appetite”
• 53:00 – Trust, betrayal, and what’s forgivable
• 61:23 – On loyalty: “Depending on who’s asking, your girl is single”
• 73:27 – “The one that got away” and lessons of hindsight

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Flow & Tone

• The conversation is candid, at times raw, filled with sports analogies and playful jabs, but rooted in respect and experience.
• The hosts balance humor (“Even swap ain’t no swindle,” “You got grain, I got a cow...”) with hard-earned wisdom about vulnerability, boundaries, and growth.
• Stories are drawn from both their private lives and public careers, adding richness and relatability.

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For Listeners: The Big Takeaways

• Communicate Early & Honestly: Don’t wait until conflict erupts; set and share your expectations.
• Respect Yourself While Giving: Changing for a partner is natural but shouldn’t cost you your identity.
• Beware of “Fast Starts”: Extravagant beginnings in dating may set unsustainable expectations.
• Never Ignore Red Flags: Who someone is at the start often proves out over time.
• Trust Is Everything: Once broken, it’s rarely fully repaired—know where you stand.
• Everyone Experiences Heartbreak: Even superstars have “the one that got away”—but growth comes every time.
• Bring Something to the Table: Both materially and emotionally, every relationship thrives on effort from both partners.

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For anyone seeking unfiltered, honest, and insightful real talk about relationships—in the locker room, at the dinner table, or anywhere else—this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ocho, check this out. Super Bowl, Seahawks, super bowl champion Byron Murphy was walking around with the Lombardi trophy at his wedding this weekend. Let's take a look at the video, y'.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

All.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, that's dope, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I think they. They started to treat the Lombardi Trophy like they do the Stanley cup where everybody get an opportunity to keep it for a day, right? I like that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Is that.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Was that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Was that the actual trophy or you

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

think that was the actual trophy?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay. Hey, that's live.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. So you know, ain't nothing left for me to do.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I have a question.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ain't nothing left for me to do, but don't do that thing. Ocho, hold on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

See, that's. That's what I. That's what I understand. So those are replicas like you have, right?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, you look. John got the og. Most people get the little minis, right?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But me, I'm with those run, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't know. This was gifted to me.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You know what I'm have? I'm get me one of them made too. In gold. I'm gonna get them. I'm getting one. I'm getting one to. Made in gold, man.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What made it golden? The little party is silver.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

The same way I got my bus and gold and the buses is bronze.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Bronze.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

So I want everything to be gold.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

The one that they keep give you is made out of wood. The one that they put in the hall. It is. The one that's. The one that's in the hall is the bronze one. The one they give you is the wood. But I'm gonna donate mine to Savannah State.

[On the Field Sports Announcer]

For real?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. And my jacket.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Okay.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Because I ain't got but one jacket. What I'm gonna do? Get one. Get a jacket to the kid. Get. Get one jacket to the kid. Give the hall of Fame ring to a kid. Nah, that's gonna go to Savannah State. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get a ring, the jacket and the bus to Savannah State. The kids get enough stuff. Trust me. They get enough. They'll be okay. Yeah, they'll be okay. Yeah. So that's what I'm doing. I'm have. I have my SUO trope at my wedding. Who all coming?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, we. We get.

[On the Field Sports Announcer]

We.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You get married next year, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yep.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

We gonna do the dude wedding or. No, we could do that. You know, we get a discount.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But, you know, right now, Ocho, I've come to the realization I'm done being with somebody that I have fun with. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. This is the very pivotal moment.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Like, I like where you're going. Wait, wait. Let me, Let me get comfortable now. Talk to me.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I found somebody that I can. I can suffer with, I can endure with. Because you can have fun with anybody, right?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on, now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You have fun with anybody.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Take your.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Say you go into the Amalfi. Coach. Coach. Say you go into Tahiti. Say you going to Santorini, Amikonos, Bali. You'll have fun, right? When you come to suffering, when it comes to enduring.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Who you want to do that with? Who would do that with you?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I got, I got, I got a question, though. I got a question now. When you say you found someone you can suffer with.

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You got somebody you can have fun with.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You know what that's like?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You know what it's like when the sun is shining, but when it's cloudy and it's storming and it's raining?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

They got the umbrella for you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

How you even got to that point to realize that? Because most of the time when it's storming and thunder.

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[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Thundering and lightning.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Most of the time, everything goes this way.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Because when you laying there and she said, baby, I'm counting your breath. Breathe. Nobody else has ever done that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on, now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

This uncle don't show last ride.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I, I like that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Listen, Jesse James, we going out one last.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I, I, I like that. I never heard. I never heard that one before. I never heard that one before. I like that. Like, most of the time. You know, my grandma always say, find someone. Find someone that's willing to unpack your baggage, because we all got it. We all come with it. Yeah, we all do. The hard part is finding someone's baggage to unpack. And most of the time, once you unpack it, when things go rough. Ah, you know, you pack. They sitting you. And you try, you try on, you keep moving on and thinking something else is better.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yep. That's always been my thing. Ocho, your thoughts on that? That's what made us who we are.

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Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Even though when I made the pro boat, I thought I could be better. Even when I made all pro, I thought I could be better.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I had a thousand. A thousand yard Season, I thought I could be better. A double digit touchdown season, I could be better. It was always when you're satisfied as a person, you threw as an individual. So I was always striving to see. To get better. To get better. To get better. Nah,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

you done.

[On the Field Sports Announcer]

You.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You waving the white flag, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I could be. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I can still. I can still search for greatness and be content.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I like that. So you got to search for that greatness in other areas, other aspects of your life.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, that's a good thing, man. I'm glad you got that piece of the puzzle filled in, man. I like that, man. I like that.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I like that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And you know, you don't, you know, she don't know what old Shay was like.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay, okay.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

O' Shea used to go double overtime. Now, she didn't get the first quarter. She didn't get the first quarter. O. Hey, I get the first hi up I put up here. Quick 10.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

How about you?

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

She ain't know. I used to have a. Get a 40 point triple dub. Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I got, I got one more question. Huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What's that?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

One more question. Now, this is for me. This is my therapy session. Because I like when we get on topics like this, right?

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Is there ever a timetable to decide when you know that's the one?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I think it is, Ocho.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Six months, a year, two years.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't know. There's a time. I mean, I think you have a feeling and you like, okay, when things go, you cut. It's got to go bad because when it's going good, when everything is good and you flying everywhere, you buying everything. And by the time you buy this purse and that purse.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

This. And you give that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay. When it goes bad.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

It's bad. And I ain't for. Hey, I ain't finna beat you down now. But we're gonna have a conversation, just so you know. We're gonna have a conversation. We're gonna talk.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, I didn't. Hey, I, I get, I get, I get frustrated. Right? I'm at that point now when, when, when things are great. Oh, when it's great, it's great. Yeah. And I avoid those conversations. I avoid those tough conversations because I, I. What's the word I'm looking for? I love my peace. I'm not one that.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

I'm.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I'm not one that really likes chaos. Now at my big age, so therefore, when.

[Regulatory and Warning Announcer]

When.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

When I. When I see chaos, I kind of. I kind of go into a shell, right? And it's so funny when I'm happy. I'm. I'm a talker, actually. I talk too goddamn much. And when I should be talking, I shut down instead of having those tough conversations that I should have.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't like having tough conversations either, Ocho. I don't.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I gotta. I gotta work on that, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Y. Do everybody got. Because I don't. I don't. I don't want to hurt anybody's feeling, and it's just eas. I don't. I don't want to talk about it. You right. It ain't easy, though. Oo, yeah, it damn sure not easy.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, but who. Who you telling What. What you tell. It's a lot of work. Hey, it's a lot of work, huh? And sometimes I think to myself. Sometimes I think to myself, if things are supposed to be this way, why does so much work? Why does so much work? Is it natural it is supposed to be this way? I mean. I mean, there's so. There's so many unanswered questions, you know, And I don't know. I just.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Sometimes, Ocho, you could work like. And the reason why I equate a lot to. To sports is because, yes, I was good at it and I worked at it, and I. It's like, you know what? If I work at this, I could change this, and I can be good at it. You can work for years and your relationship might not even get any better, because the question is, is she working as hard as you are?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's a good one.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Are you working for the same goal? Because sometimes we get into an argument, Ocho, Me and you argue. Yeah. So. No, no, no, no, no. It ain't me and you. It's me and you versus the problem. There's a difference. We argue amongst each other, we go back and forth, but the problem's still there. How about you and I double team this problem, right? What caused this?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And most of the time, the problem is me.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes, a lot of times the problem is. Usually a lot of times is the situation where I'm a guy. Just tell me if you want something. If you want to do something. I don't like to have to figure it out. Figure it out. You just.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right, right, right, right.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What you want to do, right? Just tell me. Because uncommunicated expectations will ruin a relationship. Because you have an expectation and you don't communicate what those expectations are. You assume I'm supposed to know. I have expectations. I assume you're supposed to know because you're at an age you've dated before.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You've been in relationships before. You've been in long term relationships before. Why do I need to walk you step by step? You was in a long term relationship, you just wasn't in it with me. So I need to tell you what I expect from you. You need to tell me what you expect from me. So if we communicate these expectations, we're on a path to going somewhere. But when you don't have, when you have uncommunicated, when you don't tell me what you expect, I don't tell you what to expect. And then I'm swole because you didn't do what I expected you to do. What you didn't tell me.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And, and that's one of the worst things with marriages, with relationships, with friendships. Is that one word, that one word? Because we expect certain things. Yes, you have a title. Once a title comes with anything, with the title comes expectations. Most of the time, when it comes to humans, we always fall short.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Human error is inevitable. No matter what aspect of life you're in with those expectations, then it becomes you trying to become somewhat of a character to meet the role that they want. Yeah, and that's hard because you're not even being yourself. No, you have to change who you are to meet someone else's expectations.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

How do you change? Because here's the. You got to be careful. Because changing who you are, you lose who you are.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But that's what expectations are.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, because you can't be your true,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

it's impossible, your true self. If you're supposed to meet someone else's expectations, that's not even originally you. You have to be the version of the way they view you. You have to be.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There's perception and there's reality. A person's perception of you is their reality. A person's perception of you, that's their reality. But that's not always the truth. So now how she perceives you, that is her reality. That could be the farthest thing from who you actually are and which, which is.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Which is Normally the case 98% of the time. Women fall in love with the idea that they have in their head of you, not who you truly are, of

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

who they think a man should be, what he should do. You should open the door, you should buy candles, you should buy cars, you should be thoughtful, you should write poetry. That is the perception of what they think. That Ain't who I. When did I ever give you that? Give you that impression? That was who I was. This ain't no Harlequin novel. This ain't no Hallmark movie.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, this ain't.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nope.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

The Notebook.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hell, no. Damn, the Notebook. This ain't even a tablet.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But you know what I do? Like, I love becoming a better version of myself for the individual that you.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Me.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

In whatever way they do.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

How do I become that version of me or the. The version of. In which you view me as?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

How do I. How do I become the best version for you without losing me.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Me?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Because most of the time, one of the hardest things to do. The two hardest things to do. Chat. You've heard me say it before. Two of the hardest things to do is to hit a baseball.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And to keep a woman happy long term. Because in turn. And trying to keep a woman happy long term, you have to lose a sense of self.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You do. But men are willing to do that. How many times a man says, well, you know, hey, what. You know, this is what she wanted. She don't want me to go out with my ocho Ocho. I gotta cut back. She don't want me to drink. I gotta cut back. She don't want me over the time of my in laws.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What do women say? I would like this when you met me. You ain't have a problem with it. You see, men are willing to change for the woman that a man loves. He will change that. Joe will cut off his family, he'll cut off his friends. He'll do whatever to make her happy. It goes back to biblical.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Samson told Delilah where his strength lied for a reason. Adam, you know, Adam did what he did for a reason. David did what he did to Bathsheba's huck for a reason. Just saying.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey. Hey. That was a good therapy session. I like that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, you know, we. You know, we do.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That was a good. That was a good therapy session.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ocho, this one gonna get you going. Ocho, I don't know how you gonna feel about this one. A guy's going viral on Reddit for his fiance wanting a hall pass before their wedding a few weeks away to start the marriage off better. We've been together four years now and it seemed like everything was great and mutual. Yesterday at dinner, my wife, my soon to be wife, brought up the ideal of both of us having a free sleep with whomever passed before the wedding. This stupid idea of her is completely blindsided me. I could tell she'd been thinking about it for some time, just wanted the perfect moment to bring it up. She said it would be pretty healthy for our relationship. Yeah, she said it'd be pretty healthy for our relationship and our marriage would get off to a better start because of it. She also claimed that it would help get everything out of our system. We in four years we've been together, I've never thought about being with someone else. Maybe you should stop thinking about it right now. But it sucks to know she doesn't feel the same way. Once you realized I wasn't excited about the idea, she began to retract her statement. I really didn't talk to her, talked about it and just went to bed. Since this morning, she's been apologizing over text a hall pass. You gonna be in the hall? You know what I'm saying? Don't you remember in school you get in trouble, you go sit in the hall?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Listen, honestly, this is. This is how a lot of women think, but they refuse to come forth with. With how they feel and some of the things that they like to do, some of the fantasies that they may have. Listen, you have to understand when you're with somebody, it is very difficult. There's always going to be somebody that looks better, somebody that's a little more prettier, somebody with more money. I mean, whatever. Whatever the case may be, you know? So I think it's very difficult for her to even mention the fact of having a hall pass before you get married. That just lets you know where her mind is. That. I mean, it just does. It just does. And the fact that she's retracting the statement, knowing that. Don't retract it. That's just how you feel. That's. Those are uncomfortable conversations that need to be had, and it needs to be had before you actually get married. Because at some point while you are married, you already know what happened when you are married and you're thinking like that anyway. No temptation.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Temptation deadly. She might have that one guy that she been promising because, you know, hey, you know, if you get mad, I want one more time before you get mad. Okay?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay. Hey. It's over.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say that it's happened, but I'm gonna say I know somebody that knows somebody that happened.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right. There's always one. They never marry who they want to. They marry who they can.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

They never marry who they want to. They marry who they can. I'm just. I'm gonna just Let me leave that on the table.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nobody know.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, the trouble I've been,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Bro, I don't even know, man. I might have hit that thing like a rebel. Dead president. Somebody just had to slump down in my chair.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah. Listen. At times, this is something that more people need to do, you know? You need to have those uncomfortable conversations like that with you, with your people, with your partner. Man, why you bad.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That woman would say she wanted the hall pass.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. It's like that. Like that sometime. Yeah. And matter of fact, and for those that haven't had those uncomfortable conversations, you want to know how your woman really feel? Go ahead and go through that phone one time. That'll wake your ass up.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Go through her phone.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You think that y' all think that shit's sweet, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I ain't going through nobody phone. Don't joke.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I hear. I hear you ain't got to go through it. Listen, I don't want you losing no weight.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Hey.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Cause I already. Oh, oh, listen, when you go ocho and Easter, they hide the eggs. When you go look at what you expect to find.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I listen, when I walk through the mud, I want to come out dirty.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Well, you gonna come out dirty when I.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, listen. When I walk through mud, I want to come out dirty. That's it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

All right. Damn.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, but be right. Listen, you. You're right here, boy. I'm telling you. You, you, you, you. Sometimes you're wasting your time. You think you got something. You thinking you got something sweet. It ain't what you think it is. Ain't nothing but a lemon. Ain't nothing but a lemon, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nope, nope. I'm not listening to Ocho, y'.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

All.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm gonna find me. I'm gonna find it.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Who you gonna find?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't know.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, you somebody.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There you go.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What you mean? What you gonna find?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There you go. There you. There you go.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I'm asking. You said you're gonna find it. I mean, you told you somebody like the phone.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, okay, okay. My bad.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hold on. I might even. I might surprise you. Make a guest appearance with. Sometimes you gotta pop out and show them.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay, okay, okay. I'm with you when you write. Yeah, I'm with you when you write,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Baby. I believe. You know, I want my homeboy being Ocho. I beat my homeboy. You know, we on the red carpet, we both got something.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Who am.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I have Ocho, you know, hey, you've been together five years. Fix it. Work it out.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Work it out.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Thanksgiving, you go, right? I bet you. I bet you go get a plate.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You do. You do. See? You do. See, I'm at the house and ain't nobody here, right?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

She ain't never. She upstairs. You in the basement.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Nah, I'm upstairs. Oh, ain't nobody here. You would hear kids and everything. Everybody. Everybody in Tampa. You notice. You notice how very strategically, when I'm here at the house, it ain't nobody

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

here

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

see how to see. I see how that work.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Yeah,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

man, we ain't talking about that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I know. I should. Hey, I should. I should get on the road and pop up out there.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, Ocho. Cause you would like nobody to pop up on you. Don't do that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hold on. You the one told me to do that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I know. Hell, no. I ain't never told you to pop up. Hell, no.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You just did. You said, go get a plate. It's Thanksgiving.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But you said y' all had already worked that out.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, no, I'm just playing. She sent me an invite, though.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

We're going again.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You hear me? Well, shit, I gotta get on the road.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's all right. Catch a flight early in the morning.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's a three hour drive.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Catch a flight. It's a 30 minute flight.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

If I'm gonna catch a flight from Miami to Tampa. Come on now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Easy.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

By the time I get to the airport and land, that would have been a three hour drive.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, it won't. Nope. Man, go, go. Look at the man. Look at Ocho. You don't put that kind of time in the man don't just walk away like that, bro.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm. I'm going to get me a plate now.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's it. A plate of food. Turkey, dressing, Mac and cheese, ham.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Mac and cheese. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Cheese, Mac and cheese.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ham, sweet potato pie.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't know what else, but that's it.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, that's all I want. I don't need nothing else.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay. Yeah, you know, you got to be a gentleman. You gotta. You gotta read. You gotta read like, hey, this is the new and improved Ocho.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm just going to eat.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Huh?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's what I want you to do. That's. No, I want you to eat the food that's on your plate. I know you're either too.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey. Oh, man, I'm. Yeah, I'm good. I'm. I. Listen, I ain't doing none till 20, 25, man. Just, you know, I'm taking. Taking a back seat. I'm resetting.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, listen, that's my.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's my dog.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I'm gonna come in a good space right now, you know.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. I'm in a good, good old college.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. I got a singular focus.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I got. I got 370, 11 jobs right now. I ain't got no time for no distraction, you know? Okay. I'm in a good space. I'm here.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I like that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You know the horse. You know the horses at the Kentucky Derby, how they put the bladders on.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You can't see nothing. You can't see nothing at your perfumes.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

See straight ahead. That's where I'm at with it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

God damn it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I like that. That. That's the focus that you need to have.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, that, that. And that's what I got is going

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

viral explaining her date with a 45 year old. Okay, okay. 2545, you know, 20 year death, you know, 8K, I can rock with that. Check this out and switch. A 25 year old woman is going viral explaining her date with a 45 year old who left $100 on the table and walked out. She told him she wanted to go to a steakhouse. He took her to Eddie B's. A to B's in Nashville there are several A to B's, but I know one in Nashville that's neither here nor there. She ordered lamb chops, oysters and crab fried rice after he only ordered a drink. Total cost of her meal, $159. You could hear her tell him, this is usually how I order. She paid the rest of the bill after he left a hundred dollars and

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

walked outro thinking, I already know. I ain't mad. I ain't mad at him anyway. It's the first time they going out, I guess. Yeah. I ain't mad at Buddy.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, it was the first day. It was the first day.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I ain't mad at him.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And the last date for sure to last, man. Listen, off the rip.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, that. I was just gonna say. I was just gonna say that. And. And most of the time it's. It's fellas, that is dudes out here probably that she's been with before and it's taken out. You know, it's all about showing out. It's all about showing on the first date because, you know, first impressions, everything you, you gotta really. And how do you reel women in? By doing all the craziness in the beginning. The more the crazy you are in the beginning with spoiling and spending a lot of money, the easy it is get to get to your end goal. And that's all it come down to. It's all the goddamn game, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But, oh, Joe, if you start and

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

that game is ruining women to pulling off shit like this, that's crazy.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

If I. But swish. Here's the thing. Let me ask y' all this. If. If I take somebody on the first or second date and I get a private plane, what I got to do next? Get the space shuttle. Where the hell I go from there? If I'm getting you lobster, If I'm getting you. Hold on. If I'm getting you lamb chops and oysters. Now, granted, we in different tax brackets, okay? But I'm saying the average guy, right, Ain't got bread like that. Okay, we, you know, we get you a seafood tower that cost 4, 500. Okay? We get X, Y and Z. That's one thing, but I'm saying the. At the seafood tower, they got. They got like, four or five lobster tail. They got crab claws, they got scallops, they got oysters, they got shrimp, whatever the case may be.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

That sounds like a group event.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What was the price? What was the price you said it cost?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Probably about 350, 400.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Man, y' all gonna bump y' all goddamn head, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But that's what I'm saying. But, Ocho. But that's what I'm saying. On a first date. If you do that on the first date, where do you go from there?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, I can't. Nah, you can't go. You ain't nowhere to go. You got to go to the moon,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

baby. How about we start with something? How about we start with something? You know, I ain't No. I ain't no sushi, so ain't no sense of me going there because I. I ain't. I ain't gonna eat it. But can we go to, like, some, like, American cuisine? Okay. You know, they got burgers or they got some fish. They got some salmon. You know, they got. You know, they got a. A grouper. They got some type of fish. You know what I'm saying? Dover Soul. How can. Can we start. Ribs. Can we start there? Let's start going to the state and, you know, the steak is market price. Will you start seeing something with market price?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, you know what it is now, you gotta. You gotta. You. You gotta take it real old school nowadays. You gotta see what they. What they really in for, and you gotta take them on a couple picnics, pack up some Smuckers, peanut butter jelly sandwiches or something.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Crustables. Yeah, the crustables. They already got the crust off.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, the crust is gone. Yeah. Give me a couple. You know what I'm saying? A couple iced teas, little Arnold Palmers in the joint. Like I said, if you really like me, a couple bags of Skittles or something. See where we at first.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm a simple guy. Even swap ain't no swindle.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What we doing? You use me for the ride, I use you for the hide. You want? I use you for a day. I mean, hey, even swap, it can't be no swindle.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Come on, now.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Can't be.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Come on, now. If you trying to be a sponsor. If you trying to be. Are you trying to be a partner or you trying to get sponsored? I just need.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hold on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I got to. You hold on.

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hold on.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Switch. I just need. Hey, I can be either one. I just need to know.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I feel you. I gotta know. I don't. Don't leave it up to me, because I'm gonna think the other way immediately. That's just the way it is.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's it. I got no. I ain't got no problem with you. That's. That's what you're trying to do. Yeah, but I'm gonna try to do what I'm trying to do, too.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

They don't get. Don't get mad.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, I'm gonna put that one in my notes on my phone. Trying to be a sponsor.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hold on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Trying to what? It was trying to be a spot. Would you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Are you trying to be a partner or you trying to be sponsored?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's from real, though. That's for real. It's a lot of. It's a lot of ones looking for sponsors.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Look, I understand. Look, like I said, I'm a little older now, Ocho, so you know what I'm saying? But see, here's the thing. Chick told me. She said the reason why older men like younger women, they. She said a guy told her, as we get older, ain't nothing wrong with our eyes. What we like when we was in that age group, we still like now.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I ain't got no problem. I don't got no problem. I ain't got no problem. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever we decide to do, do that. If you say, Shannon, this is what it is. Let me decide. I'm gonna tell you what it is.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. It's an equal exchange. That's where I think we're getting misconstrued. Like one outweighs the other. This is. This is a very equal exchange.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Even swap can't ever be a swindle. Look, if you got. If you got. If you got grain, and I got cow that can produce. Okay, Ocho, I need some grain. Okay. I need milk. Okay, even swap. But now all of a sudden, you come down there with some bullshit. Oh, no. Hell, no. You trying to get over.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

You ain't got no grain, but you want all this milk? Oh, no, baby.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And you read all I'm saying. Hey, honestly, I ain't about no headaches. I ain't about no headaches. I'm with. Hey, I'm gonna do right by you.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, you. You understand? 98 of the time, you got all the milk. Ain't nobody got no grain. You just the only one providing the milk, so I don't.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

So I'm the only one breaking something to the party.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Like most 90 of the time. Yes, yes.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

How about this, Ocho, Bring something to the picnic besides your appetite, please. Can you bring. Can you bring plastic forks? Can you bring napkins? Can you bring. Bring something other than your appetite. I'm not saying you got to have, you know, you got to have the most elaborate spread, but just bring something. Hey, you go to somebody house, Ocho, you can't just show up. Hey, how y' all doing? And you ain't got nothing.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Gotta show up for something.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Cups, plates. Hey, bring them cheap ass checks o be liking. Break something.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, bring my quarter orders.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, bring something. We don't. We don't got to the point now. We show up to people high like it's just because it's our presence. Hey, how y' all doing? What y' all got? Nah, we ain't doing nothing.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nothing. We ain't doing nothing. You know what we're doing. Store run. Hey, we need some ice. I holler at you in a minute.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And so a lot of times these women be showing up with hoo ha and think, that's enough.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Well, hold on. You. You know, sometimes that is all this. Enough. What are they advertising everywhere? What are they advertising everywhere?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's all they got.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hold on. Everybody. Everybody turned backwards. Everybody turned to the side, using the sink to make it, you know, let us sit.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's all. That's all.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's all there is. I see. I see your eyes. How do you catch our attention, huh? How do you catch our attention? The most valuable thing you have to offer is what you advertise. Just like. Just like a man. If a man got money, what's the first thing he advertised? He got?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

What, that moolah?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You know.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Hey, even.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What you say?

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Even.

[Orderly Meds Advertiser]

Even.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Exchange. Ain't no way. How you say it?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Even. Swap Ain't no swindle.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Well, you already know what it is. The game.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Catching a man. Catching the man. Catching the marlin. Ain't the problem. It's getting that sucker to the boat. Yeah, to the man. Ain't no issue. Can you land it?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah, you can land him, but he gonna be gonna throw you out. He gonna throw you back out to the sea.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, I'm just gonna keep jumping till I get back to the water. Angle. Angle. Stop jumping. Stop.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Look.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, look, like I said, I'm in a situation now. I mean, when I ain't have a whole lot of money, knock on wood. I only had one situation where somebody. I thought somebody was trying to take advantage of me when it came to eating, but Now, I got some bread. Okay? You know, hey, we go to a nice restaurant. I mean, but you ain't about to. You ain't about to get no Kobe. You ain't about to find nothing that cost a hundred dollars an hour, $100 an ounce. Oh, hell, no.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I walked out on John one time like that. I was in New York at a steakhouse. She was just ordering it up. Ordering it up. I went straight to the bar. I told the dude, I said, look, man, there's 200 for these two drinks, and I'm gonna just go ahead and slide. He's like, okay. Hit me about an hour later.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Where you at?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

What's going on? I ain't never went back. I'm not doing all that. You ordering all this wine, and you don't even drink wine. All of a sudden, you. You assign me.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

They do that to you, man. They know you got bread, man, look, I'm out.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I holler at you. You don't even. You ain't even acting the same. You. You from when I met you as a chick from the. Runaway from the Bronx. Now all of a sudden, you Jenny from the block. I ain't. Nah, bro, I ain't got time for that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

See? See what you done started, Ocho?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, I started who?

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I don't even put myself in them situations like that. I don't play that. No, sir.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

200 should be a nice little meal.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

200 who? American dollars.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes. A nice little meal ain't a junior.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That was gratuity and everything, Ocho?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

No, I'm good.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay. Steak called 50. I gotta stay called 50. She get two drinks. I'm drinking ginger ale. More times than not, she'd probably be. You know, she ain't gonna want no dessert. I'm cool. 200 for the thing. Get a. Get a. Leave a tip. Okay. 250 leave. Get a guy 30 to bring my car around.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I'm not.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay. I'm at 280. 300.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Hey, listen, you have that. You have to stand, and then it's

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

your Nasty K. Okay, I might go. If I think she'll Nasty K. I go to. I go to 400.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

So what you saying, Ocho? What's the. What's the. What's the. What's your. What's your cap bracket? What's the budget?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But, you know, I don't. I don't eat at those places that you guys are talking about. My places. I mean, I could be honest. We family. And those of you that you know in the chat, especially if you follow me, you know, my stuff is always the same. You know, my Bahama Breeze, I got. I love my longhorn. I like brimstone. I have a Cuban spot that I frequent all the time. So the places I like to frequent and go to dinner aren't like that. Aren't like that now.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

So if you spend 150, you. It's. It's the worst. They bringing out sparklers now you have

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

to think about date night. Date night when. When I. Well, I'm single now, when I wasn't single. And date night, not then. That's when I was introduced to, you know, different types of foods that I didn't eat before. And then now we talk about a dinner. Might be 150, maybe 200. Outside of that, it was nothing. It's something that I don't do in the norm, so I'm not used to it.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I think. I think if you get out of there, honestly, I think if you get out of there with, you know, she gonna. She gonna get two drinks at least. I'm hoping two drinks stay.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's 400 for sure. She get. That's four right there. Your numbers a little too good.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, drink me that $30. Yeah, for real, straight up cocktails, like $30.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I leave right there, go to the liquor.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

She done popped that off before we even got the meal. Now, if you get an appetizer, you get one, she get one, boom. That's another appetizer gonna be at least somewhere between 20 and $30. So you get two, that's 60 plus a drink. 90 plus my ginger ale, which is 10. That's a hundred dollars right there. And we ain't even got to the entree.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, and I ain't gonna lie, man. Is it. I don't know if it's the times or the numbers is going up, but it just seemed like they drink faster than they used to. Those two drinks go a little faster than they used to, but they come back before, you know, it's like, oh, can I have one more? I'll just have one more. You said that three drinks ago. Like, damn, bro.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey. Hello, you. Hello, you to drive. Hey, you Ubering. Hey, we good?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, nah, nah. I see. I can't do a sloppy situation. That. That's the quickest way to get me off. Off your. Off your line. You come over. Keep the classic. Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, no.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, no, I keep it classy. Now I'm gonna put you on a minimum. Put you on two. Three drink minimum now. For real?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I think, I think most women can handle two. I think that's. Now they got something that. Hey, two. Man, I could drink seven of these things. I'm like, yeah, okay, now I'm planning my escape. I'm playing wrestling tonight. Yeah, seven.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

You in an MMA match?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Whoa, whoa, girl. You more woman than I ever be, man, drinking seven of these things. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Like I said, y', all, I'm like you, J.R. 2. 2. You get two drinks.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

We gotta get you at a minimum. I got. And I gotta make sure I gotta see what you drink it too. Because they go order that 200 tequila and thinking they doing that Casa zoo and all that. Hold up, baby, hold up. Use reposado from Casamigos. Don't act like that now. Now all of a sudden you cast like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This ain't that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

So. Hey, hey, get a. Get a Lemon drop Cosmopolitan. Hey, hey, hey. One or two. Lemon Drop or Cosmo. What else they be drinking? Sometimes women don't got the way they drinking.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

What, vodka, water, Almaretta sours and shit?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I feel it. I feel it.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I don't know what the hell y' all talking about, man.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

It's like a good stick. That's all. It's just like a good stick. They just drink it faster.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But I. Hey, that's it. Two drinks. Ocho, they get pain. Hey, I want. Can I get one more?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Nah. But.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, See, that's why, for real, I go to wine, like, because I'd rather just spend. I'd rather spend 100, 120 on the wine. Get you a nice good bottle of red. You gonna get four glasses. I get two glasses. You get two glasses. Where everybody's satisfied. And it's gonna last us throughout the whole dinner, Right? But you sitting here doing drinks and this and that. Then you, before, you know, they get that vodka some of any day. Like, not only. I'm trying to get you to chill, mellow out. Yeah, go ahead and go to the crib. Have a nice little night. All that. I ain't doing that no more. Ain't good.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Like, I used to.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

See.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

See how old y' all gotta chill. Yeah, you get. You know, when you get your situation rectified. Boom. Turning your head for.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't like the way you look at. Like, you see your body language, man. Hey, that's my coach.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Uncle. I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, listen, we family, right?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

The. The longer. The longer. How do you. How do you say it?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

The longer you apart, the harder it is to get back.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

No, no, no. I mean, no. I mean, not. Not even that. It's just like it's becoming like. Like, man, fuck it. Like, the. The longer. You know, when. When there's something that's always, always constant. Constant, constant. You have it all the time. And the longer it. And just become like.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I'm just saying.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Nah, I feel you. I'm listening to you. I hear you, man. That's tough. That's a tough situation, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Working night. Don't joke.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I was about to say. Let me ask you this. Is it rectifiable, though?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Everything is rectifiable.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I can't say that. Me, personally, I don't have that in me.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You don't think everything should be. That's a good question. Let me ask you something. So you. What. What isn't rectifiable in your eyes for me? What can happen, like, if she does this? This. A B and C. A B or C. You know what? That's a wrap. We can't do nothing no more. It's over.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Well, for Me, if. If I felt like I can't trust you, you. You define my trust within. And there's layers to that. Like, it's a white. It's like telling a lie if it's a white lie. And then there's the lies, you know, that's just. That's just over crossing the. You know what I'm saying? And for me, I felt like people have a good. Like the person I pick, they got a good conscience to know what I. What I'm standing for and what I'm not standing for. So if you cross that line, then I felt like you knew what you was in you. You. You know how I roll. So you know, you. It was. It would never be a situation to where you gonna come tell me what happened.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, if you.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

If it ain't that, if you ain't. If you put yourself in a position to where you feel like you can't come tell me, you can't tell me, then we. We never was with what I thought we was. And we should stop right now, right? For me, me personally, because I trust too hard and I love too hard for. For you to be playing with me on a way that you. That I feel about you, that you don't.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man, I can't take this anymore, Doc. You gotta help me, man. This stupid meme is ruining my life.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Okay, Now that's a rush.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Smile for the camera, Ocho. Here you go. Internet, Right? So have you ever since you've been dating when. When you've dated before and you've been in love with these, you know, individuals and a woman has made a mistake where you've lost her trust. Do you ever give her any grace or. Once. Once she. Once you cross that line, it's it. That's it. It's a rap I have.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

And I got burnt. Yeah, I got burnt crazy with my homie too. Like, my. My man, we was in Vegas at the same time. All Star popped up in the room. He in the room. I'm walking in there, go see my little joint. He in there with her. I'm like, oh, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Damn. And that happened after.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I already went through some little shots like, okay, so you know what?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's what we own. That's what we do with Savage.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I'm a savage now. That's what I got. That's what you turned me into. And I hate to. I hate to use that as like, somebody fuel put that energy in my back. But yeah, that's what. After when I seen that and I was young, I was like, 20. I got drafted. I was 18.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I was 20.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Like, young boy into the league still. It's like my second, third year, I was like, okay, this is how they really move. And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

This is the game plan.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You don't. You don't.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, you gotta ask her. Like, when you go to a situation, you gotta go ask some of the best. Hey, what's up? What's up with her? Oh, man, blah, blah, blah. What's up with her? Blah, blah, blah. Because the feds know, and for the most part, they ain't gonna, you know, sometimes, you know, you stumble up on one and they want it, and they're gonna try to salt you up. But

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

a lot of hating ass bits.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

man, I would say she was bad too. I stumbled upon her, you know what I'm saying? Oh. Oh. I stumbled upon what? You know, every once in a while. Every once in a while, Alley can't find a whole chicken in the trash, he ain't gonna always find scraps. I struck. I stumbled up, Stumbled upon one. Ocho.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I made the mistake we. I was cool with dude cause he played with my brother, so I thought I could, you know. Yeah, man, you know, I've been seeing her. I've been, you know.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

So

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

he gonna try to back door me.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, not the front, though. He went through the back, though.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Back, though. Check this out. He told the girl. He did what? He told her. Oh, you gonna f him and you ain't gonna give me no hoo. Ha.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, hell no.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah. See, that's the oldest trick in the book, dog.

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[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's for years. That still happens, dog. What years?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Each outfit. Oh, oh, here's the thing to top it off, Ocho. He probably wouldn't even be on the team next year.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I swear, that one right there, I swear he gonna be out the league. He gonna be broke. He gonna be this, that, and third damn champ.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Because here's the thing, though, Ocho, the thing about, like, not all. There's no situation of all or every. But a lot of times, even if you cool with a chick and y' all leave on somewhat good terms, if somebody come try to on your team, come try to holler and say something foul about you they're gonna let you know.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

They're gonna let you know every time, too. Tell you, even if you in a whole nother situation and cool with it and everything, Everything good, they gonna let you know for sure.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, she. She told me I had a dude in college. He gonna try to. Hey, ain't you cool? Ain't you cool with shop? It ain't like that. Really, dude.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, matter of fact, you. Hey, AJ and, you know, I mean, this is a great topic. This is barbershop. This is basically how the locker room is. Anyway, you ever been with somebody. If you ever been with somebody in. In general, based on your experience and y' all were together and what happened, do you. Do you. Do you give them grace if they step out on y' all based on what you're talking about? Because, Jay, you said if trust is. If trust is broken and you can't trust no more, do you give grace? Or you, like, you out the door, what you think? You out the door. How do you. How do y' all operate?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You know, man, it don't.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Ocho, for me, you got to think about it. When. When y' all was playing, Jay, when you was playing, the individuals that are trying to talk to the woman you with are those that have money just like you.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Just as much money as you got. Yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

So the chances of them actually being loyal. I don't want to say it. It's even. Because depending on who's asking, depending who's on who's asking, your girl is single.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You're not. You know, let me. Let me say this again. Depending on who's asking, even if she's with you, your girl is single.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

For sure.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

For sure. Okay, 1,000.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

1,000%.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. But, bro, I think. I think. I think. I think the casual people in the chat probably wouldn't understand, but if you in that world. Yeah, if you're in that world.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, she gone, yo.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You get what I mean?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You get what I mean, bro?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

For the most part, 95 of the time. You're absolutely right, Ocho. Big bank take little bank.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, for sure.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

That's why you see big corporations gobble up little corporations, man.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I went to the All Star Game in Houston, right? And that was my second year. It's my third. No, my third year was in Vegas. The second year was in Houston. So I go to Houston, I bring this. I have my first little quote, unquote video vixen, Little chick, little smooth magazine cover, little joint. I got a little. Yeah, I mean, I Got one. I was calling the homies back. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Take it to the game and everything, but I'll take it to the game. But my seats wasn't like that. I'm still first year kind of guy.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

So I'm like 15, 20 or 20 rows up. So he chopping it up, kicking it. Halftime comes homebobby right back, never come back. Halftime come back. She sitting on the court side with big homie. I'm like, oh, at the game, like,

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

left you mid game.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Sat on the court right there with the big.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Huh?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Dead ass like booty in the cemetery. Straight up, straight up. Lefty right there standing. But they give you another story. So for me, one of my teammates, I had a teammate who's bet like his man is right. His right hand man. Right on the same. We honestly all on the same team. Basketball team. Real live protein. He go. When we go out of town, my man's homeboy taps my h. His man wife when we on the road. Yeah, it gets funky.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

See, I got to have him. Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, you know what?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You know. No, no, no, no. You know what?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

It gets funky, dog.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But here. Did you know what it is, Gil? The thing is, is that I'm not married to him. I'm married to her. Now, that's my homeboy now, see the meat? Cause I ain't got a whole lot of homeboys for my homeboy to do that. And I thought I allowed you in my home. I'm gonna lump you up, bro. I ain't gonna even lie.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

Hold on.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

It's the disrespect. Hold on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But the disrespect is with the women in that scenario.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

My homeboy, Ocho, what's your homeboy name? The one that you grew up with in Liberty City?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Shoddy.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Thank you. Your situation. You. Hey, you out of town. You trust them around your people. They go out there and they try to. They smash. Come on, man. I'm done with her. But I got something for him.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a teammate, though. Like, say we. We on the same team. We're all three of us on the same team.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

We go on the road. Ocho, man, holla at my lady. He in my house with my lady when we on the road.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, oh, let's see that. That's. I see now, now. Yeah, see that? Now, see, that's. That's ultra different now, now you talking about somebody. Somebody sending. Hey, yeah, hey now. Somebody letting doves go On Sunday,

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

know you gonna kill him out for sure.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What you mean? People will kill, boy. That's trauma, passion. What do you understand? People get off of stuff like that. Well, you gotta be careful,

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

man.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What I told you about. What I told you. What I told you about managing expectations, boy.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ocho, you don't manage expectations with a wife.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, sir.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

You committed, you know, managing expect. If you got to manage your expectations with a wife, why did y' all even get married? Why do y'. All. Why did y' all say those vows? It ain't no managing. No. If you want to manage expectations with a girlfriend, I get that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay, okay. You're right.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

A wife, right?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I forgot the white part.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I forgot the right part.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I forgot. I forgot the white part.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man, stay. Look, man, look here. Women that are married, look here, man. Y' all gotta know who y' all dealing with, because everybody don't handle rejection the same way.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

But it goes around other side. So I understand it for the women to snap and when they man out here. So it goes both ways. So I want women to think like, are we on one side? Side? No, it goes regardless. You get caught in that situation, and

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I ain't coming up. I'm not coming up in no man's house. You go up in a man's house, you know, a man lived there, you know that's his wife. Anything that happens to you after that, I'm okay with.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Dang, straight up. Nah. Hell, yeah, straight up. Anything.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

The same thing I feel about when you spit on somebody. Whatever. See, you get to control your actions. You don't get to control the consequences of your actions.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

So you walk your ass up in that man's house, you know, black women talking about, I ain't know he was married. That man got a photo biz with a car seat in the back. What the hell you think going on?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Posters around this.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Come on with posters. Not pictures, posters. What? Not what? Non married dude riding around with a coffee.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, it's a dirty game, man.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man, stop playing, Ocho. I don't. I don't play. That's one thing. I joke. You know, me and you joke back and forth, and I joke. I don't. I don't joke with. I don't joke about nobody's woman. Yeah, no, because I don't have. I don't have too many situations in my hometown, right, where people have hurt somebody for real. About a woman.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, it's all about knowing no disrespect to those situations and. And this is, fellas, for you. In the chat, all you have to do is pay attention to who you're dealing with and understand who you're dealing with early. Then you'll never get mad. You'll never get mad. You'll be disappointed. Sometime you'll be disappointed. You'll be. You'll be disappointed. Because sometimes you grow to love an individual.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Sometimes those red flags, they. They look green sometimes, depending on who it is, you know, Sometimes. But when you understand exactly who you're dealing with, you just. At some point, that the tables are going to turn.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I don't be playing like that.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Like my granddad used to say way back in the day, boy, well, I want you to always remember, the same way you got them is the same way you're going to lose them. It always plays out that way. Every time. Always.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I wanted. I don't want that kind of. I don't want that little. I don't want that kind of lose. I don't want to lose them like that. I ain't trying to lose myself like that, because I'm gonna be.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you gotta be. Yeah, you got to be careful.

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

You do.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

But, boy. Hey, boy, I love. Boy.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah. It don't play, huh?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

What?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, see, I ain't. I ain't experienced that kind of hurt like y'. All. I can see your face. I can see. I can see the passion when you. When you rose up off that goddamn chair.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yo, boy, I'm telling you, I

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

don't never want to feel that, man. Look, I never want to feel that.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I know. I didn't realize how bad it was till my brother and sister called. Say you need me to come out there. My sister never called, right? My brother never. My brother calls. Hey, bro, you need me? No, I'm gonna be all right. He asked me again. He. I hung the phone up with him. He called me back. FaceTime. That's the only time my brother's ever called me FaceTime. Only time I've never talked to my sister. FaceTime. Only one time my brother called me FaceTime. He said, look at me and tell me you're gonna be okay. I said, what we always say. Mayor Porter, race three the hard way. I'm good. He hung the phone up. I gave him my word I was good. I gave my sister my word I was good. I might lie in my life. I lied to a lot of people. I ain't gonna even sit here and tell you I have it. Yeah, I ain't never lied to them two mo foes. I told him I was good. I had to be good.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

How you got over.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

It wasn't easy, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. It wasn't easy.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Time.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, see, and it took you a while to get over. I got better at dealing with it. See, the quickest way to get over one woman is to get under another one. I'm right, Ocho. I got up under me another one. But nah, in all that, in all seriousness, it took a while, Ocho. It was tough because when you be with someone for a length of time,

[Tab Ramos (Guest or Segment Host)]

right,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

and let you know what's funny, you talk about even when you be with somebody for a long time and even if you do get up on another woman, that post nut clarity, when it sets in and that temporary satisfaction, it goes away that pain, see, right back in.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

In reality. Then reality hits again.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Because you know what happened though, Joe. You find yourself questioning yourself. Yeah, do I like this person or am I trying to get over that person?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Trying to get over, and it ain't working.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I don't even think it's. I think. I don't even think it's a real question. I think, you know, you trying to get over. Yeah, you like. You know what I'm saying? It's almost like he's tricking yourself into.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. And that's it.

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And.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And it's not. It's not fair to the other individual.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah. At all. At all. It's not fair. Into that situation a few times, for real. That. That's just not fair. And it's. It's selfish as hell because we all get trapped up in our own. And by the end of the day, you got to be man enough to own it and tell them and be like, yo, listen, this is. I got. I got caught up. This. This is not where as what you thought it was or how fast. Like, listen, I'm coming from a situation X, Y, and Z. And it's tough, bro. Like, I ain't gonna lie, man. My. Like I. I left my mom, my. My wife's kids, my ex wife and her. I got. We got three kids together, man. When I left home, like that was like she was eating me. Not only for the kids, but like I felt like that was my homie, like that was my rolly.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Right?

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

And when you go through, you know, I mean, we've been together for a substantial amount of years, like I'm talking about, but like when you growing apart and you going through different layers and different phases of your life. Phases? Yeah. Like. And you get up onto somebody else and, like, you gotta wash that whole stink up off you from a whole nother person like that.

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[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

And it didn't stink like that, but it's like you got, like, people. People. I've always heard. My grandparents used to say it all the time, like, we. You better be careful who you lay down with, like, them souls and spirits upon you. And that is real for me anyway, because, like, when you laying down with somebody, you intimate with somebody, you giving everybody that. That type of energy, it's time to move on. You gotta wash all that above you, because you can't carry no new upon you to a new situation. You'd be in a worse situation than what you just left.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah,

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Ocho.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

And still King ISO. Hello. Is there a woman from your past that you later realized you let get away? Perfect for you and everything that you

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

dropped the ball on.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, listen, I may have let one or two get by. I. I will. I may have not been ready. Okay. I felt like I've had. You know, I've had a couple decent ones in my day. Uncle Ocho, but, hey, it must not been meant to be. Okay. Yeah. He'd be mad at God. We. We say trust God and everything, but when women get away, we don't trust God.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Fact, you know, sometimes you. There's an old proverb that says you measure 10 times and cut once as opposed to cutting 10 times because you measured once.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hello?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Of course, of course. Had I known what I. If had I known then what I know now. That's the thing about hindsight. It's a magnificent science. It's perfect. Because you know today what you didn't know yesterday. Mm. So.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

it happens. And at the time, you don't think about, like, you letting something good go, because all you know is that, hey, you're arguing or you, you, you. You know, you said in your way. She's setting hers. Everybody trying to prove a point. I ain't moving off my.

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[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I ain't moving off my square. Hey, hey. That boy, real cancer. I ain't moving.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

I know exactly what you mean.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

I mean, Ocho, you can only. At the end of the day, you can only keep one of them twelves. You don't have about 50 of them, but you can only keep one.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey, listen, I. I always say, listen, every. Everybody. I think you.

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You're supposed to experience everybody. That. That's about it.

[Gil (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Keep keeping them a long time it just is.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Hey, unless. Unless you kneel and you can talk to them and make them all get along. I wouldn't want no situation like that. I ain't. Even though that should sound like a headache, don't it seem like a headache?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Don't it got to be, you know, hey, hey. When you think about it, though, Uncle Joe, does anybody ever really get away? Because whoever's for you is gonna always be for you, no matter what you write about that. Because if they no longer here, they're not here for a reason. And when I look at it, anything that what people would consider. Oh, you lost. Well, hell, how come ain't nobody else picked it up?

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Man, listen, for me, I'm gonna keep it real with y'.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

All.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

There has not ever been a woman that has ever came before basketball or me training. I don't give a damn how you cut it. You can boohoo and cry in my face, but I'm finna go to the gym, and I'm finna go hit these weights. I'm doing that all day long. That's gonna come before anything. That's how I eat, bro. Yeah. I'm telling you like Granny's to tell us, the more you cry, the less you pee. So. Hey, hey. So all that boohoo. So, hey, guess what? You're gonna have to give yourself a headache. But I'm going to get this training session in. Yes, I'm doing that. Yeah. Yeah. And I hate. Oh, he fumbled. He. Ah. I punted. You know, I got the third down. I got the fourth down. I realized I didn't have a good play. Good enough play called Ocho, so I punted. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I don't understand. You know, it's so funny. I hate when people say, oh, you fumble something. Like when you play a game of football, there's multiple balls that they use in the game. Multiple.

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[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You fumble one, God damn. You catch the next one.

[Ocho (Co-host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I didn't fumble. As a matter of fact, I put it on first down. I already realized I wasn't gonna get no yards. Oh, Joe. I already knew, Joe. I knew I could go get. I said, you know what? Yeah. Ain't no sense of me. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure people look back and they're like, man, I had an opportunity. I dated Joe. I dated Ocho. I dated Unc Black Ben. Hey, you weren't ready. We weren't ready. I've had a conversation many years ago with a couple of my ex, like, hey, we were just both too young. Shannon. We were just both too young. You're right.

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