Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Conor McGregor Knee Injury at UFC 329 + Top 10 Steelers of All Time

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – “Deebo & Joe – Part 1: Conor McGregor Knee Injury at UFC 329 + Top 10 Steelers of All Time”

Episode Date: July 13, 2026
Hosts: James “Deebo” Harrison & Joe Haden

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of Nightcap, former NFL stars James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Haden dive into the biggest sports stories of the moment. They kick things off sharing their own rec league adventures before breaking down Conor McGregor’s abrupt injury and loss at UFC 329. In the second half, the hosts tackle a classic sports debate: the top 10 Pittsburgh Steelers of all time. Throughout, the duo brings their signature mix of irreverence, insight, and authentic locker-room banter.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

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1. Catching Up & Fishing Plans Foiled

[03:05 - 07:16]

• Personal Updates: Joe drops the kids at summer football camp and is feeling good (“Feeling good, feeling good.” – Joe Haden, [04:18]).
• Fishing Trip Cancelled:
  • Deebo and Joe lament the cancellation of a planned walleye fishing trip due to 30 mph winds and dangerous conditions on Lake Erie.
  • Quote: “If y’ all don’t know nothing about Lake Erie, you don’t want to be out there... You would have went fishing, then you would have never went fishing again in your life.” – Deebo, [05:11].
• Joe’s gratitude: Glad his first fishing trip won’t be a traumatic one thanks to Deebo’s good sense.

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2. Rec League Drama & Playing Through Pain

[07:16 - 10:14]

• Joe’s Rec League Team Wins: Joe’s team finally gets their first win of the season, beating another winless crew.
  • “We won by seven... We was on two, we won by seven, we balled out.” – Joe, [07:37].
• Quality of Competition: Deebo teases Joe, questioning the merit of the victory.
• Injuries in Recreational Sports:
  • Joe shares that a teammate “blew his Achilles” after playing hurt with a calf strain (shout-out to Pitt, [08:58]).
  • “Shout out to my brother Ziggy. He went out there and gave us 30 yesterday. He looked like Tracy McGrady.” – Joe, [09:19].
  • Joe himself contributed “15 and like 12 assists” and is “back to dry needling” to recover ([09:39]–[10:17]).
• Aging Athlete Realities: Both hosts reflect on stretching, recovery, and how hard it is to still perform.

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3. Conor McGregor’s UFC 329 Injury & Analysis

[10:44 - 16:06], [20:39 - 28:52]

The Fight Breakdown

• Joe’s Experience: Tried to watch live, but fell asleep and caught the highlights. The main event lasted only 1:30 due to McGregor’s knee injury ([11:30]).
• Speculation on Injury Origins:
  • Deebo and Joe discuss whether McGregor was already hurt pre-fight. Deebo suspects he tweaked something while warming up (“I know I did see him in the back... He didn’t look like he was hurt then, but... anything’s possible.” – Deebo, [12:08]; see also [26:10]).
  • Joe doubts McGregor could return successfully after five years out:

    “Bro, I took off five months... I come back like, your body ain’t ready for that, dude.” – Deebo, [12:29];
    “The energy and the stamina that you have... You can’t really deliquor and all that, you have to literally be like... completely like a little ninja.” – Joe, [13:11].

• McGregor’s Post-Floyd Lifestyle:
  • Discussion of how wealth and lifestyle changed McGregor’s mindset and physical readiness.
  • “You got a hundred mil, and now you walking into this joint in the ring versus another trained killer...” – Joe, [14:11].
• No Surprise in the Result: Both agree McGregor was no longer the same fighter.
  • “You ain’t think he was gonna win?” – Deebo, [20:39]. “I did not think he was gonna win. No, no, no.” – Joe, [20:41].

The psychology of coming back

• Comparison to Football Comebacks:
  • Deebo reflects, “I need a whole football preparation to get ready for one game... I feel it in my heart and soul. Imma tear up something immediately.” – Deebo, [21:25].
  • Both admit at a certain point “I ain’t built like that no more, Joe.” – Deebo, [21:54].
• Reality of Aging in Sports:
  • Hosts discuss older athletes (Mike Tyson, McGregor) and the allure/problem of comebacks.
  • “We only gonna want to see Conor fight the best and that he knows he’s going to be able to draw that. So he gonna get paid... a minute thirty.” – Joe, [28:28].

Notable Quotes

• On Fighting While Hurt:

  “I think it’s a possibility that he might have did something to it in the back before he came out practicing... especially if I don’t know if it’s all the way gone.” – Deebo, [26:10]

• On Tap Outs vs. Choke Outs:

  “You gonna let him choke you out or you go tap out? Which one you gonna do, Joe?” – Deebo, [30:31]
  “If he about to break my elbow... I gotta go to sleep, Joe. I can’t tap. I can’t tap right.” – Deebo, [30:44]
  “You gonna let him choke you out but you ain’t gonna let him break nothing.” – Deebo, [31:17]

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4. Top 10 Steelers of All Time: List, Debate & Philosophy

[31:25 - 55:01]

The “Official” List [31:58]

1. Mean Joe Greene
2. Ben Roethlisberger
3. Jack Ham
4. Rod Woodson
5. Mel Blunt
6. Mike Webster
7. Troy Polamalu
8. Terry Bradshaw
9. Jack Lambert
10. Franco Harris

Debating the Rankings

• What Makes a ‘Greatest’ Steeler?

  • Is it individual stats, accolades, or Super Bowls?
  • “Are we talking about like, team accolades? Are we talking championships? If we just go championships... that’s a different list.” – Deebo, [33:14].

• Mean Joe Greene at 1: Both agree it’s a no-brainer.

  • “I think that goes unanimous with a lot of people.” – Joe, [33:25].

• Quarterback Ranking Dilemma: Ben vs. Terry Bradshaw

  • Ben’s individual numbers are better, but Terry has 4 Super Bowl wins.
  • “If I’m ranking this list, I can give you a list right now on straight Super Bowl, on team accolades...” – Deebo, [40:12].

• Personal Connections: Both admit a bias towards guys they saw play or played with.

  • “I didn’t know Mike Webster... so when I’m looking at my young list... Marquise Pouncey is up there as one of my all time great centers...” – Joe, [46:49].

Modern Steelers That Deserve Love

• Antonio Brown, T.J. Watt, Marquise Pouncey highlighted as new-era players whose performance merits inclusion, despite lack of rings:

  “A.B. is... no receivers on their [official] all-time greats...the talent on that field and his numbers are undeniable.” – Joe, [47:03] “T.J. Watt... being a consistent professional... He’s lunch pail.” – Joe, [47:19]

Toughness of the List

• Athletes of Today vs. Yesteryear:

  “Athletes now are faster and stronger. That’s just what it is, dude... but there’s guys on the list...could still touch this era. Mr. Green in his prime... could touch this era.” – Deebo, [49:46-50:20].

• Super Bowl Titles as the Ultimate Test:

  “When you say Steelers, all-time greats, there’s Super Bowl champions, and they have... titles with it.” – Joe, [50:32].

The Endless Debate & Nostalgia

• “How can you—It don’t matter who you put on this list. It’s gonna be right and you gonna be wrong.” – Deebo, [51:44]
• The list is deeply personal; everyone’s “right and you’re wrong” to someone else ([51:49]).
• Discussion of Steelers legends from different generations, including Alan Faneca, James Farrior, Greg Lloyd, Lawrence Timmons, and more ([54:00-54:34]).
• Heartfelt Steelers Fandom:
  • Deebo reflects on giving up rooting for Cleveland as a kid and “becoming a man” by becoming a Steelers fan ([55:03]).

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5. Notable Quotes & Moments

• “All these players, when you get to arguing greatness—you feel like you gotta put down somebody to lift up somebody else... But it’s who you like, who you saw, you have a connection with them. And them Super Bowls don’t hurt.” – Joe, [53:32]
• “Who did the Steel Curtain, bro? We was Blitzburg.” – Deebo, [54:00]
• On the rec league: “These regular Joes, they can’t really step with us. We got this. We can do it.” – Joe, [23:53]
• “Boy, Greg Lloyd was my go-to. Like when I finally gave up them losers over there in Cleveland and went to Pittsburgh. That was my dude.” – Deebo, [54:52]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Joe & Deebo’s fishing trip canceled | 03:05 – 07:16 | | Rec league win, injuries, getting older | 07:16 – 10:14 | | Conor McGregor UFC 329 fight/injury | 10:44 – 16:06,<br>20:39 – 28:52 | | Tap out vs. choke out, latest fight recaps | 30:08 – 31:21 | | Steelers Top 10 list discussion | 31:25 – 55:01 |

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Takeaways & Tonal Notes

• Tone: The episode is informal, candid, and playful—peppered with jokes, gentle ribbing, and locker-room wisdom.
• Perspective: Both hosts blend first-hand athlete experience, “real talk” about health and comebacks, and deep Steelers fandom.
• Debate Style: Friendly but passionate, especially as they work through what really makes a player “great.”
• Memorable Moments:
  • The long-winded Steelers ranking debate proves how subjective sports greatness is—and how emotionally tied to memory and personal connection.
  • Honest takes on aging and staying in the game, both physically and in perception.
  • Unique analysis of McGregor’s loss from a retired athlete’s point of view—knowing the realities of “trying to turn back the clock.”

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Summary in One Line

A late-night sports jam session blending hilarious real-life stories, hard truths about aging in athletics, a sharp breakdown of Conor McGregor’s latest UFC fall, and a heartfelt, heated debate over whose face truly belongs on the top of the Steelers’ Mount Rushmore.

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[Joe Hayden]

Doing great, brother. Debo. Doing great. Great weekend, you know what I'm saying? Had a blast. Dropped the kids off today. They just started a little summer camp, football camp of commanders, football camp, flag football jump. So yeah, feeling good, feeling good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Feeling real good. That's good, that's good. Look here brother.

[Joe Hayden]

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Well, anyway, people didn't know, but hey, we were going to go fishing.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We was gonna go fishing tomorrow. We was gonna be live on Lake Erie out there, Geneva Lake in the land. Walleye fishing. Get Joe up out there. Get him some walleye fishing.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why I got my bucket hat on right now because this is what I was bringing out there.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, the problem, it's a problem. It's gonna be a problem. Tomorrow's gonna be a problem.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Around the time we supposed to go. They talking about 30 mile an hour wind. Now listen, if y' all don't Know nothing about Lake Erie. You don't want to be out there.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And. And. And. And nothing, you know, that small. And I mean, it's not considered small. You know, it's probably a lot. You know, I'm like maybe 20 something, 26, 28, something like that. Feet.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Lake here. You don't want to be out there in 30 mile an hour wind. Joe, you would have went fishing if we went. Then you would have never went fishing again in your life.

[Joe Hayden]

I appreciate you, Debo. I appreciate you. Cause I need my first experience out there on that boat to be nice and smooth so we can be chilling.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You know, you could be.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what I'm saying? Show me the way and I don't have to be worried about getting thrown off that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That.

[Joe Hayden]

That would. I'm. No. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate you, brother. When you sent that text this morning, I was like, come on, I got my hat. I'm ready to go. I know Deebo got me. But I'm appreciate you because, you know, my travel, the boats and everything be going crazy. Thank you, my brother.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, thank you. Captain hit me up this morning, said, hey, tomorrow ain't gonna be it. They gotta. They got. They got a small. They got a small boat advisory. That mean if you ain't out there on something that ain't like 40, 50, 60, 70. Yeah, yeah, they got rogue waves out there, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Nope, we. We see.

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[Joe Hayden]

Nope. 30 foot boat, chill, 30 mile an hour winds. I ain't got time.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You ain't got time for that?

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't got time for that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm telling you. I've been out there when it was like 15, man. Hey, some of them things kick over the little splash over the top, you know what I'm saying? You got to make sure you stand up under that thing. You know what I'm. You know, that's for me. If it was 15, I ain't gonna lie to you. You might have. I might have had to stretch you out there, though.

[Joe Hayden]

15 mile an hour wind.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I might have had to stretch you out there. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. You might have had to take a chance.

[Joe Hayden]

Zo, I'm damn. I know you a avid fisher. You do this, so I'm trusting in you to bring me when we can go do it. When the elements are right, we go get it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We go get it together. We go. We'll set up. We'll set up another time. We set up another time to see thousand percent. If it don't. If it don't work out, you know,

[Joe Hayden]

I got some good news, though, Debo.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What you got?

[Joe Hayden]

We won. You know, I told you, my team, we won. At least we won last game.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Who. Who's y' all play, though?

[Joe Hayden]

Man, don't worry. We played another team in the league. We played another team in the league.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Did they have a win before they played y'?

[Lele Pons]

All?

[Joe Hayden]

Nope.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Exactly. I knew it. I knew it had to be.

[Joe Hayden]

They. Look, listen, my intuition is good, but look, I'm gonna keep it honest with you. They was on two. We was on two, but we were still. We won by seven. We balled out. We lost. This is the only.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So they. They. They. Did they. The most trash. All the second most trash in the league is what it come down to.

[Joe Hayden]

Until we play the next team that has another win, we go.

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We.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo, why you always worried about the wins, D? We played a team yesterday. You asked me did we win, and I wanted to let you know we won.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, But I want to. I want to know the quality of the win, too.

[Joe Hayden]

It's still early in the season, so only some teams. Some teams only played. They only played two games, so they was on two, and we was on two.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But I know you done looked at who they played. Who did they play?

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, they played.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

See?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, they played two teams. One of the teams they played, we haven't played. And the team that they played, that's

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

another loss for y'.

[Mangesha Shetiguler]

All.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Then who else?

[Joe Hayden]

And another team they played. We did play.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, so y' all got one more loss coming from a team that they played that you didn't play. How bad they beat him? I thought they beat him by like 30.

[Joe Hayden]

No, only like 13. Oh, only 13.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Y' all beat him by seven.

[Joe Hayden]

We beat him by seven.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That. That equate to a loss of me?

[Joe Hayden]

Because it's sad. No, because it's sad y' all lose to them. That's what I'm realizing, too. This is what I'm realizing, too, though. It is legit. I want to give prayers out to one of my players, Debo, because it is legit. It's real. What happened?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What happened?

[Joe Hayden]

One of my men, he done blew his Achilles, brother bruh, I told you. My man Pitt. But shout out to Pitt. Yes, man. He know. He played for Illinois back in the day. He knew he was going with a calf strain. So, yeah, shout out to Pitt.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Out there playing, already playing hurt.

[Joe Hayden]

He was already out there. He was already Nursing. He was already nursing. So that's what made it even worse. So shout out to Pitt, but shout out to my brother Ziggy. He went out there and gave us 30 yesterday. He looked like Tracy McGrady.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He dropped 30.

[Joe Hayden]

He dropped 30.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

My brother Ziggy dropped down by six. That's crazy,

[Joe Hayden]

because we.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's crazy.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't worry about it. Me, I had about 15. I had 15. I had 15.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I knew it.

[Joe Hayden]

I had 15. I had fifteen. I had fifteen. I had 15. Yeah, my man. Yeah, for sure.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was a double double. Or was it just you just shooting? No, that's the.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why I only had 15. I had 15 and, like 12 assists. I was running. I was getting everybody involved. I. For the 30, I gave him at least five of those assists.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Hayden]

So, yeah, I was creating out there, Debo. I'm getting my legs back up under me. My legs are feeling better. I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Stretching, dry needling. So I'm feeling good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, you back to dry needling.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm back to dry needling.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, okay. So that hip done got right. You ain't got the hip better. At least it ain't janky.

[Joe Hayden]

Almost. I almost dunked. Buddy thought I was going dunk on it. When I came through last time, Buddy thought I went.

[Lele Pons]

I went here.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You knew you wasn't dunk.

[Joe Hayden]

Then I turned it. I knew I wasn't gonna dunk. But he didn't know that. Yeah, he didn't know that. He's like, oh, you couldn't. Took off. He said, oh, you could have dunked that. I was like this.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, yeah. I just wanted to lay it up.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't want to go crazy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I want to go crazy on y', all then y'. All, you know what I'm saying? I ain't want to show too much now.

[Joe Hayden]

I gotta show you a little the

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

up with that, people. You ain't. You got your hands over there playing hurt, trying to get a win. Now you got him blowing his. Speaking of playing hurt, hey, Joe. Yes. Did you happen to see how that Conor McGregor fight went out? Did you see DC? Did you watch it, brother?

[Joe Hayden]

Did I. So the crazy part was I. I tried. I was watching the. The. The soccer game. Argentina and then with the fight was kind of happening around the same time I was watching. I ended up. I ended up trying to watch both and ended up both of them watching me. And I Woke up at 3 o' clock in the morning sitting on the damn Couch. But then I ended up watching it on. I, like, went to the highlights.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

And I watched the whole fight because it was a minute and 30 seconds, Debo. So I didn't miss too much of nothing. I woke up like, oh, what happened? And your boy came in the joint with the flying knee kick, already buckling. What was that, Joe? You think he was already hurt?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm trying to tell you that's what I want to. I was gonna get into being already hurt, Joe. Now, listen, I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't know, like, exactly like. Like you know what was going down, how it went, but I know I did see him in the back. They had him on camera.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

With his warm ups. He didn't look like he was hurt then. Okay. I'm just saying. Now again, five years, bro. Now you taking five years and then you go, bro, I took off five months. It was five months. I was still working out, but I wasn't working out. Like, I was getting ready for a season, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay. And when I came back, I was dope. After the first practice, I'm sitting up there and I'm like, oh, maybe this was not a good idea. That was. That was practice one, bro. I done took like two 3T shots for the week, bro, Just to get through. Yeah, bro, I'm down bad. Down bad, bro. And now he took off five years, came back like, your body ain't ready for that, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Not even warmed up a thousand percent. And this is what I'm gonna say, too. Conor McGregor, once he ended up doing that fight with Floyd, he ended up getting the bag and, like, taking that hunted. When you start traveling on. He's on the yachts and he's doing the stuff.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, 5 million dollar y.

[Joe Hayden]

He got his little scotch company in business. He's making money. And that's what he. Kudos to him. Because when he was the best of the best, he's working out and training every single day. Because you're fighting, you get bopped upside your head. Like, bro, it's not a game like those dudes, Max, the dude he fought, they fought. The last fight I was trying to see, like, oh, was it a couple. It was 13 years ago, was the first time they fought and Conor McGregor beat him. And then he fought a couple more times. Conor McGregor still got hot. That was 2013. He hasn't fought since. He hasn't won since 2020. You know what I'm saying? And then in 2020, one, he got KO'd Conor McGregor. And in 2021, another fight, he got KO'd. Then he took the break. So now I'm like. And I'm looking at him like, the energy and the stamina that you have to have with the training, it's like you can't really deliquor and like, all that, you have to literally be like. When I was looking at him when he was younger in his career, just the way he's moving, the way that he was just locked in. Because when you're doing that, you gotta be like completely like a little ninja. I was like, oh, my gosh, he's not getting tired. But the older you get, the more. Like when you're energy and you start drinking and you start doing your whiskey stuff, you got $100 million, you just politicking. And now you like, oh, yeah, I'm about to go to train and I'm about to go fight. I'm like, Max has not stopped since 2013. He's fighting real dudes. He might not win all of them, but he's not playing. He's going to joint KOing dudes, and he might get KO because he's fighting for the belt versus other dudes that are so official that they'll walk around and murder anyone. So I'm like, Conor McGregor, you had that murder when you was younger. You was chilling, not all respect. You got a hundred mil, and now you walking into this joint in the ring versus another trained killer and. And you got us to thinking that it's going to be what it was.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I was thinking. I wasn't thinking.

[Joe Hayden]

I wasn't thinking. But the way that he was talking and the way that, like, just. I mean, I looked at him like, okay, but in my mind, I'm like this Conor McGregor. When his last couple of fights I saw five years ago, he still was starting to lose a little bit of like that because you got the brain. You don't have that energy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You don't have that stamina, that paper,

[Joe Hayden]

that drive, that stamina, bro. Once you start getting tired out there, there's nothing you can do. You start. Can your hands start falling down? Like, I was like, that's what Conor had. He had the energy. He was spry, moving. You're 37 with the bag, you coming back into the joint. And then when he did land that knee joint, it looked crazy. Last time I seen him, his knee buckled. So it's like, you're not coming. The knee's not that. I don't know it's not that strong. You can't do the flying ninja kick.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And Lando, I think that's the other knee. Any knee, the same leg or whatever.

[Joe Hayden]

That joint just looked crazy. Don't come in there. No, it was going to look as expected. I would hope that it was going to look better because I love condom.

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It's your girl, Sam J.

[Ari Chambers]

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[Jonas Brothers Member]

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[Podcast Host or Interviewer]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You guys, I'm.

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I'm genuinely a huge fan. Like, it's funny, you know, I made a whole thing about doing this tick tock where I got you guys to sign the guitar and I.

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But, right.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was real.

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Like, we listened to in the car all the time. Like, it literally is hanging up with all your signatures.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Wow.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

McGregor. I like the way he's fighting, but I'm like, the math's not math.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You ain't think he was gonna win?

[Joe Hayden]

I did not think he was gonna win. No, no, no.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But I ain't gonna lie to You.

[Joe Hayden]

I know.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I thought it was fake.

[Joe Hayden]

I know he was gonna come in there with the flying kick and buckle the joint off the rip.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I didn't think they was going, like, five years off. And I'm like, he about to actually fight Max. I'm like, this ain't. This ain't real. Ain't no way. Like, they think he really go give him something or like. I'm like, nah, that ain't. And then, hell, what was it a few weeks later? I'm like, oh, it is real.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, it's real. Literally. Listen, I found out about it Monday. I was like, oh, he's fighting this. This Saturday?

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[Joe Hayden]

Damn.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was like two weeks. I was like, two weeks. It's a fight.

[Joe Hayden]

It's a fight. It's real. I'm like, not next July. This July, right out of nowhere. Yes, bro. So I was hoping for the best.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I told you, Joe. You was like, could you ever. Could you come back and do. I said, man, I need a whole football preparation to get ready for one game. One game, Joe. And I already know in my heart and soul, man. I feel it in my heart and soul. Imma tear up something immediately. Immediately off the first time I gotta move 100 miles an hour.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Stop and go, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

It's coming loose because I'm. I'm even.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I built like that. No more, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

No, sir. No, sir. And it's all good. And it's all good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They'd be like, james, you look good.

[Joe Hayden]

You look great.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I say, yes. That's all I'm going for is the look.

[Joe Hayden]

That's. And the thing is now, too, they go put.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They. Man, they gonna put that feeling centimeters on me, man. They gonna have them hands on me. I'll be out there doing this. I can't even get them up off me.

[Joe Hayden]

That reality strike. And we like this. Debo, hold the gap. I can't.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hold the gap. I can't. I can't. My knee just buckled my ankle. I think it. I think it might have just sprained.

[Joe Hayden]

Trust me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hold the gap.

[Joe Hayden]

Trust me. And that's when I'm telling you, like when the. The. The age starts happening, when we see, like, Mike Tyson. I was telling you, Debo, no matter what.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm trying to understand what you're saying now.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what I'm saying now. But I saw him. No matter how much you feel you saw him, I'm seeing this, you seeing that in the quick. You saw that in. What's that thing called? In the Little reel in the little reel. It's actually. It's actually. Keep going. He did it one time, and it showed it seven times.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, he ain't even giving me that one time. Don't give me that one time.

[Joe Hayden]

That's. No, man, that's. No, no, no. Ain't no way. These the old heads. Me, myself, I'm talking to myself here, too, because I'm playing an over 35 league, and I'm trying to get McGroy right just because I want to be healthy, not because I know I can't come back and play versus nobody that can really, really play. I'm just trying to get.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You playing in a real league.

[Joe Hayden]

You trying to get me and my boys, everybody out here, trying to get cardio.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You want to get cardio? Take your ass to the gym and get on the machine. It's safe. You don't tear your ACL or your Achilles.

[Joe Hayden]

That's going to happen. If you just try to burst somewhere, you know, we could do.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You ain't got a burst on the treadmill. It's called cardio. It ain't called burst. Steady, slow.

[Joe Hayden]

I. I hear you, man. See, we need to go see.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, our team, y' all out there still trying to prove like we got a little something. These regular Joes, they can't really step with us.

[Joe Hayden]

We got this. We can do it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Look here, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Stop it. It's not about them. I'm not going in there for them. I'm doing it for. I'm doing it for me, for you. I'm doing it for me. Not to prove nothing. I just like ball.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You like ball?

[Joe Hayden]

I like ball. I just want to run with the homies. It's like, I'm just. Like, we had. Like we just had.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You can't just do a pickup lead.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what it is, basically.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, I'm just saying, like a regular pickup game. Not even a league, just a regular pickup game. Why I gotta be the league?

[Joe Hayden]

Because I like to have referees there. I'm not trying to be fouling. I don't want nobody fouling me. Just so it's more. You know what I'm saying? Boom, we get there, we got refs, we got people keeping. How many points you get? It's just more like, okay, it's a legit lead.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let me ask this.

[Joe Hayden]

You can respect that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I. I can't. I can, but I can't. How do your boy feel about the league that he joined in now that he's sitting over there? See, touring Achilles,

[Joe Hayden]

he is.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Is it worth it? Now?

[Joe Hayden]

I would have still been. You know what? Probably, probably, you know, now we know we gotta.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What do he do for work?

[Joe Hayden]

He's gonna be okay for work. He's gonna be okay for work.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So if you do it, it's good with you. It's a trade off, right?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, that's. That's what I said, no injury. But yes, that's what I signed up for.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And he went out there already hurt, knowing like, yo, I'm already. I'm already. I'm strained up already. Matter of fact, they think Connor was strained up already.

[Joe Hayden]

That's my.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

See how he took. That's because that's my shoes off.

[Joe Hayden]

He did it for the love of the camaraderie. That's what I'm saying, man.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They saying Conor was already hurt. Did you see how he took them shoes off?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, he. He looked. He. He did.

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He.

[Joe Hayden]

His knee looked a little gimpy. It.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I seen the thing where it was another one.

[Joe Hayden]

But you said at the beginning, too, when he was in the. When he was in the. In his training room at the beginning, he was kicking the bag, giving it. It looked. It looked solid.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They cut out. Now, look at. I. I ain't saying. I'm just saying anything's possible. But they cut. Dang. They ain't gonna show the whole thing. Now say he's doing that and now he go and do it, and on one of them, it's like, oh, boop. Oh. Ah, I feel something. Okay. They didn't see that one because it wasn't on camera. Now, if you're him, I'm not gonna tell somebody that I just did something to my knee right before I go out on the fight, especially if I don't know if it's all the way gone. Like he could have did something to it. And it wasn't all the way gone yet. And you see, once he did what he did and it was all the way gone, he was limping out there. So I think it's a possibility that he might have did something to it in the back before he came out practicing, while he was practicing in the back. And then when he did that first kick, he totally just ruptured the whole thing. Because you got to think about it, dude. Like, this is first time back, like you said. He just got put to sleep the last two times. It's been a five year. He can't go out here and say, oh, I just. I was in the back warming up and I I might have strained my knee. He got to go out there.

[Joe Hayden]

You got. Yeah, for sure. And at the end of the day, he was going. He's, he's. He is a performer and he didn't want to go out there. He's not going to go out there and say that his leg was hurt.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No question, bro. You can't. Especially right as it's going out like

[Joe Hayden]

it's gonna get paid. Hey, at the end of the day,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I wasn't gonna say that, but yeah,

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, hey, hey, man, I ain't

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

gonna let that money go, Joe, man,

[Joe Hayden]

he ain't letting that money go. If that thing tweaked up, you gonna get in that ring.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yes, I'm. Tear it off the bone. Off the bone.

[Joe Hayden]

That's that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Now I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it for the fans.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm calling. You gonna like, fooled me once because people want to see Conor McGregor. I was ready to see him instantly. Would have bought it. Same thing with like Mike Tyson. The older. When they start getting up there, but you're wanting to hopefully see the flash. But I'm like the knee and just the age, the stamina. I'm. No, I'm putting. I'm putting Tyson in there because you keep on saying I'm like this. Yep, that's the same thing that's happening.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Stop talking about Mike Tyson, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm a loser and I like Iron Mike. But I'm just saying we don't need to see him in the ring no more.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I understand that.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't need to see Conor the ring no more because you to go see him go over another person that's ready to take a belt. But Conor's not ready for a belt. But his name is going to get him to not come in there fight a young somebody that's just chill. No, we only going to want to see Conor fight the best and that he knows he's going to be able to draw that. So he gonna get paid to walk in there in minute 30.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Minute 30.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. So, like for us, it's more. I don't know, like, are we going to go pay to see Mike Tyson go out there again? I'mma say it because we want to see our mic or who we gonna feed, who we gonna.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But I, I know Mike, man, that just, that just. That just hurt me. That hurt me because I was expecting to see at least, you know, getting one of them things, you know, like one of them, you Know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Like, just store, man, you know how it is, man. That it look, you looks. The training segments can look sweet for flashes, but soon as that camera cuts off, are they. When it's gasping for air, we're not sitting there watching, like, you know. Now your arms getting down. Now you're tired. Now you get hit in the face.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, man, you see. What's the dude's name? Patty. Patty P. You see what he did to Benoit? Was it Benoit St. Denis or something? Nah, bruh, bro, he choked that man out in, like, less than a minute, see? Like less than a minute. And I don't even know how he had him wrapped up. He had, like, an arm in between a leg, like, bruh. Squeezed up. Yeah, I don't even know what they call that thing. Cobra python, something. I don't even know what they call that. Yeah, wrapped up fast, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Nothing he could do. Tapped out one minute.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, no, he ain't tap out.

[Joe Hayden]

What happened?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He let him. Hey, he said, I'm going out on my shield. He let him choke him all the

[Joe Hayden]

way out until he. Until he, like, passed out.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Passed out. Yep. Had to do the arm, like, wrestling. Boom. Hey. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, he definitely.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You gonna let him choke you out or you go tap out? Which one you gonna do, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, I've been in that gator joint, so, you know, I'm going to sleep. I might. I'm just wake up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, I'm like, I gotta go to sleep. I gotta go to sleep. I gotta fight for your last fight

[Joe Hayden]

for the last one.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, unless he got me, unless he got one of my limbs or something, and it's about to break.

[Joe Hayden]

He about to break my elbow.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Ah. I gotta go to sleep, Joe. I can't. I cannot tap. I can't. I can't tap. I can't tap right. I just. I just can't. I just can't. Like, yeah, brother, break my arm. Break your arm?

[Joe Hayden]

No.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You were letting. Break your arm.

[Joe Hayden]

No, not break my arm. I am tapping. Tapping.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You're gonna let him choke you out, but you ain't. You ain't gonna let him break nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I ain't letting you break.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna let him break. Now.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I ain't wake up because I can't get back out there, then, oh, yeah,

[Joe Hayden]

get him off me. I'm fine.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And that's the thing. They'd be scared. They'd be like, man, what happens if he keeps choking? I'm like, man, you know how Long. You gotta choke somebody to make sure they pass away. Like, you gotta choke them after they pass out for, like, at least another minute or two. I know. I didn't. Anyway, Distillers, what we got? I didn't say nothing, but still, there's wire. They dropped the top 10 greatest Steelers of all time. And the list goes. I'm gonna start at 10 and go down to one, but, okay, after I get through with that, we go. We go rap about this.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, ten.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They got Franco Harris, nine. Lambert, Jack Lambert. Eight, Terry Bradshaw. Seven, Troy. Six Mike Webster, five Mel Blunt, four Rod Woodson, three Jack Ham, two Ben Roethlisberger, and one Mean Joe Green. Now. All right, so that's what I want to know. How do you feel about this list? So my thing is this. Everybody on this list could be on this list.

[Joe Hayden]

So, yes, that's.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I ain't mad at the thing. I ain't mad at everybody's list.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't got to be the same, right?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But I feel like it. It may be some areas where it could. It could. It could adjust. I would say so. For me, I'm not gonna take. I'm not gonna take anybody off the list. I think I would just. I think I would just rearrange maybe, you know, some of it. Because when you. I don't know, when you look at it and you think about it, if it's, like, how are you, like, ranking these. You know, how are you ranking these guys? Like, how are you ranking, you know, the greatest? Like, is it ranked on their. Like, their numbers? Stats, whatever it may be? Is it ranked on individual accolades? Right. Is it right on team accolades?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So, like, with that, you know, my thing is, at one, me and Joe Grand, I got no problem with that.

[Joe Hayden]

I think that goes unanimous with a lot of people.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, you. You good with that one?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I'm good with that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, so we got. We got Bandit, too. Again, I'm not tripping on anybody on this list. Like, if we talking, you know, numbers. And when I look at this list, if we're talking numbers, you got Bradshaw at 8. Then Ben's numbers are far better than Bradshaw's as far as individual numbers. But again, are we talking about, like, team accolades? Are we talking championships? You know, it's a different list or order for me. If you go. Matter of fact, if we just go

[Joe Hayden]

championships, that's the thing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Let's go championship.

[Joe Hayden]

It's because they're going to either go championships or individual players. Like, when you see this person who's better Than the other person. No matter if you bring, if you brought some Super Bowls, I think that adds on, obviously. Yes, that obviously adds on because so

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

my thing is this. Go straight super bowl. Where you list that with straight Super Bowl. I got them cool with. I'm cool with Mean Joe at one. I. Because you have two quarterbacks on here.

[Joe Hayden]

If you're doing Super Bowls, then you do Super Bowls.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I gotta put.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Switch. I'm gonna switch. I'm gonna switch. Being the two. I mean, so it's being the eight, Terry, the two.

[Joe Hayden]

See, that's, that's when you rank players, though, Debo and you, when you rank players. Just, just for you, this is where it comes where people always, like, the, the, the, the media can say, like if they, they won Super Bowls, but you were the individual player, you, you were a player on the team. Where it's like, do you say somebody like Terry Bradshaw and Big Ben are the perfect examples for us to state? When we say Ben stats his numbers and everything, he only had one Super Bowl. Do you say to yourself, I. Ben, he got two. Ben has two Super Bowls.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, I got two. He got two.

[Joe Hayden]

Ben got two right here. Terry. Terry has four. Is it. Do you think, do you think if, if you were to rank your list, do you have, do you put super. Do you.

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What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers.

[Sam J.]

Hey, what's up, y'?

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All?

[Sam J.]

It's your girl, Sam J.

[Ari Chambers]

And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together. And I heart women's sports because, let's

[Sam J.]

be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.

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The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire

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timeline and the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.

[Ari Chambers]

Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.

[Sam J.]

We'll give you our takes, our debates, and probably a few disagreements.

[Ari Chambers]

We'll talk to athletes, celebrate big moments, and get into what's happening on and off the field, court, track, and beyond.

[Sam J.]

Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. So if you're already a fan or

[Ari Chambers]

you're just getting into the game, there's

[Joe Hayden]

a seat for you right here.

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Listen to everyone watches women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Lele Pons]

My first guest is Paris Hilton, Shakira, Luke and Yerin, Samira E. Gracie. I'm so excited.

[Joe Hayden]

On a bouncy bed.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You have surprises, many surprises.

[Lele Pons]

Welcome to Suite 305 where the group

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What up? Hola, amiga.

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Hola, mejor amiga.

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This is Sweet305. Listen to Sweet305 with Lele Pons as part of my cultura podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast podcasts.

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Hey, everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers. This week on the podcast. Hey, Jonas. We're hanging out with the one, the only, the only and the one Michael Buble.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You guys, I'm.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

I'm genuinely a huge fan. Like, it's funny, you know, I made a whole thing about doing this tick tock where I got you guys to sign the guitar and I.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was real.

[Jonas Brothers Member]

Like, we listened to in the car all the time. Like, it literally is hanging up with all your signatures.

[Podcast Host or Interviewer]

Wow, I am so honored. After Kevin's recent, let's call it interesting confession about Michael, I had a feeling this wasn't going to be going away. We figured there's only one thing to do. We must invite Michael Buble on the podcast and we want to know what's on his sexy time playlist.

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You know, I did an interview and they're like, have you heard about this Jonas Brothers thing? And they're like, what did you think of it? I was like, well, I mean, it's reciprocal.

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Like, what a man got to do. What a man.

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[Joe Hayden]

You make those polls mean more than his individual stats and what he did. Big Ben as a player to Terry Bradshaw as a player.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And that's what I'm saying. I have. If I'm ranking this list, I'm give you a list right now. I can give you a list right now on straight super bowl, okay. On team accolades, who did what. If that's the case.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I got Mr. Green at one. Okay, I' ma switch being in. I'm gonna switch being in. Bradshaw. Jack could stay at 3. I guess it could be Jack or. Or, well, either Jack. It could be Jack Lambert.

[Mangesha Shetiguler]

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[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I'll pull.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'll pull both jacks right down there. So I got to move Woody out of there. I got to move. What's him out? What's another there? So I got. I got Mr. Green, I got Terry Bradshaw, then I got Jack Lambert, Jack Ham or Ham and Lambert, however you want to look at that. Either way, go. I'm cool with that. From there. From there. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go blunt. That's easy. Blunt's right there at five already.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So we got blended five right there. Franco webster. I got Ben at eight, Troy Woodson.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Based on the winning of championships, I don't think. I don't think Woody won a championship. So I think he would be at 10. You see what I'm saying? No, I'm not taking nobody off this list, keeping everybody on this list because they could be on this list depending on how you see them. But. But I'm ranking them based on championships.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. And say, okay, I got you. Let's go individual. I want you to now just best players in Steeler history. Just individual, like individual talent.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay. Again, we're going on. We're going on individual talent.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

If that's the Case me, I mean, sorry, Mr. Gray. 1. I'm not tripping on that. That's. That's just. That's just what's gonna be. You know me, Joe Green is what I'm talking about. But I call him Mr. Green. You understand? Post and respect. You understand? When you talk about him, you call him. My bad, my bad.

[Joe Hayden]

Mr. Green. Mr. Green.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

All right, all right. Now from there,

[Joe Hayden]

this is where it goes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm gonna keep. I'm. See, I'm. Here's the issue. So based on. I would say we're talking talent, bro. Like. Like, like. It's just that I see, I'm have a hard time with not putting Hammer Lambert there and then Ben. I think that's because I am a. I'm a defensive player. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

And Debo, this thing is. There's so many great players that this list, it's pick your poison. You know what I'm saying? You, nobody. You don't have to make somebody else bad or somebody else like putting nobody else down to put somebody else up. That's a difficult list. All of these dudes are hall of fame.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But here, I tell you what. Cause I can't take nobody off. That's where I'm at. That's okay. So listen, man, gotta stay where he at. Then I would say. I would say, Oh, man, this is a hard one, bruh. One is easy. It's just hard because of Terry and Ben. Like, am I going to keep. Am I going to keep like, you know, being where he's at or switch it? Like, Yeah, talent. I gotta. Again, I gotta. I gotta keep being where he's at. I'm do that. I'm cool with him being there. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to flip this.

[Joe Hayden]

What you gotta look at too, Debo, when you got this, you got defensive lineman, so you got Mr. Green. You know what I'm saying? You got. Then they got some. You got Ben. So you got quarterbacks on here. You got two quarterbacks. We got Jack Lambert, we got. And Jack Ham. So we got Lyman Ham.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Dude, that's. That's like, you know, they roll together.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, okay. That's what I'm saying. Then we got dbs, we got Rod Woodson and. And Mel Blunt. So we got basically safety and corner. And then, so. And then for the lineman right now we looks like we have one. So we have Mike Webster as the best lineman. So when you add. I ain't gonna lie.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm at. I'm G have to throw Mike all the way to 10 just because of the position. You know what? Let me start backwards. I think I could do it better that way. Mike at 10, Franco, I mean Franco at nine. Terry and Ben are going to be 8 and 2. However you want to do that, that's how it's gonna do. But my eight and two is taken by two quarterbacks. Being I'm gonna put Ben at the two. Even though Terry got four championship, them championships is hard to do.

[Joe Hayden]

But

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

dude. But like, you know, being. He gonna go out there, he go, he go. He'll get. He gonna give you what he gonna give you. He goes. He gonna run around, he gonna get that like, like, oh, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Who do you think? So if I. I got some. I got some. So this, this. If this goes modern. More, more like if I just think of people that I've seen eye test that I think can make this list. There is AB Comes to mind. TJ Watt comes to mind. You come to mind. And Mike Pouncey comes to mind when I think about Marquis.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Pouncey Marquis, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Marquise Pouncey comes to mind when I think about sinners. Just about all the year, straight Pro Bowls, straight All Pros, consistency, you know what I'm saying? He played probably 12, 11 years. He went probably 10 years to the Pro Bowl.

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[Joe Hayden]

So like he's. Pouncey is one of my. Pouncey's one of my guys. So with my list, when I'm looking at. I didn't, I didn't know Mike Webster. I don't know. So when I'm looking at my young list and I'm thinking of Distillers, I'm like, Marquise Pouncey is up there as one of my all time great centers for Pittsburgh Steelers. He was there with Ben, you know what I'm saying? Do his. During Marquise Pouncey's career, his quarterback was Ben the entire time. And they had success together. It wasn't ever Pouncey's fault. He was out there. Ironman really would do what he had to do. Constant professional. We went to school. He did that in Florida and did the same thing from Florida to go straight to the league. So with him, I always have a little spot in my heart. I'm like, man, I can't. Don't forget about Pounce. That was unbelievable how he got drafted first round, went to the Steelers and did what he had to do for his whole career, you know what I'm saying? Like GROWNED MAN STUFF AB is there's no receivers on their all time greats. So I'm like this got to be more careful. And I know when they say the rings knock down the greatness of these dudes, but I'm like when I look at individual and I'm like it was like it wasn't Pouncey's fault. And like I said with ab, the talent on that field and his numbers are undeniable. That streak of when he was going 100 yards, 100 catches and over 1500 yards and just tudding it and then special teams, you know what I'm saying? He's a spark plug. Where I was working when I was playing for the Browns, I'm like God damn, I got AB and I knew what time it was. Him and Ben, they was working together. Boom boom. Had like. It was just amazing. So Antonio Brown never want to put down on what he did. TJ Watt sack numbers, you know what I'm saying? Just like everybody's stuff is in but number he got the most sacks. Like he's still out there doing it and it's right now he had a down year. But TJ's been doing nothing but being the best version of himself saying leading by example, being a consistent professional stays. You don't hear about tj, you know what I'm saying? Unless he's got hurt, stay out the way he stays out the way he does his job, he's lunch pail. Brings it to the job. So with them then Deebo, you. You know what I'm saying? Amazing stats and just what you brought. The undrafted that grind, that still grown man. Not being cocky. You know what I'm saying? Balling out super bowl in the champ, making big plays when they matter. You know what I'm saying? Like real live. You did that. So then you. And so that's with those are when I'm like sometimes the championships. Those are a couple of players I will put in there and then some just like. And it's not who can like knocking. I'm not trying to knock like right. I can say oh believe me, I didn't see them play. I didn't. You know what I'm saying? Like more just. I didn't see it more my era of my guys and their numbers and what I've seen them do. I'm like is that's that it was unbelievable. So I would just put those. Those guys in there too.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, I. I understand what you're saying. And my thing is man, it's hard. It's really hard. Now when you talk about athletes now are faster and stronger. That's just what it is, dude. Time has made these athletes faster and stronger than a lot of these guys back then. And then I'll say it's guys on the list, though, like, hey, they could still touch this era. Mr. Green in his prime, he could touch this era. That's no question about it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And survive, thrive, thrive, thrive. Okay. You know, and bruh. Yeah, it's just hard to even.

[Joe Hayden]

And this is the thing too, Debo. It makes it a lot for the Steelers. And just for organizational wise, when you've had. When you have players on teams that had that success and have one super bowl, it's like, I can't put a guy that didn't over a guy that did. So that. That makes complete sense. You know what I'm saying? So when you say Steelers, all time greats, there's super bowl champions, and they have. There's. There's titles with this, you know, Holy stats. There's titles with it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, that's what we are known for, winning championships. Okay, when you walk into our upstairs, what's the first thing you see when you cross through them doors? Joe, you see them Lombardi, we see the party sitting right there. What's. What's the first thing that go through your mind after you see them? I want to get one. I want to be on there. Yeah, I want. I want to put one in that case.

[Joe Hayden]

Dude, it's hard.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It's hard to take that. Like, you got guys that's on here with three and four of them things, bro. It's hard to even.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, no, no, because they deserve it. They deserve it. They came and did the ultimate goal. So that's why they should. A thousand percent. That's why the list.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That'd be longer.

[Joe Hayden]

How can you.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It don't matter who you put on this list. It's gonna be right and you gonna be wrong.

[Joe Hayden]

You're gonna be right and you're gonna be wrong because somebody gonna tell you, nah. What about bruh? And you're gonna be like this. You damn right.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You know what you need to do? To hell with the top 10 greatest. Just go with the greatest. Steelers not top this or that. Don't put no numbers on that because it's. It's too much. That could be like, too much adjustments in there. Like you said, a B, I'm. I'm 100. Like 100. You know, like, dude, like, how we ain't even got Lance one on here again, because Back in that era. That's Lance one. He didn't do, Like, Little Wodie. He was that dude and put him to sleep.

[Joe Hayden]

That's when you go to running backs,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

like, just so much, you look at it. Yes, man.

[Joe Hayden]

You're gonna have to have running backs on there, and you're gonna have two running backs. You're gonna take off Franco and put on Jerome, or you gonna have Rome and Franco, and then who else you gonna take off?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know, bro. Like, you got, like. Even when you go to Lyman, bro, Like, Alan Fanica bruh, people forget Alan Fanica Bruh. Dog hall of Fame. Yeah. Like,

[Joe Hayden]

oh, man, it's just a lot.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, man, hemp ain't even on here, man.

[Joe Hayden]

I know him. I looked at that. I looked at another. They had the.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Stop playing, man. How big? Hamp ain't up there, man. Throw the horns up.

[Joe Hayden]

The list from this. From. That's what I'm saying. 11 to 20 is doing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm done with this. This list. This list ain't this.

[Joe Hayden]

No, it is, Debo. It is. It is. That's why I'm saying, who is the

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

10, man, everybody's list could be 100% different.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why it's okay. Because it's your opinion, it's who you like and who you think is the greatest and did the impact for you. So, like all these players, when you get the cont. When you get the arguing greatness, you. You feel like you got to put down some. How. How am I going to lift up somebody else to put somebody down? But it's just who you like. It's on your opinion, who you saw. You have a connection with them. And them Super Bowls don't hurt them Super Bowls, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, who did the Steel Curtain, bro. What are you talking about? The Steel Curtain? With the Steel Curtain. We was Blitzburg. We was Blitzburg.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, bruh.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna look like Mel Blunt changed the game to that press coverage at the db. And then you got Rod Rice, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

James ferry.

[Joe Hayden]

He has 72 picks. James Ferry.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Lawrence Timmons, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, no, no, for sure.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like jg, man. Jason Gilder, bruh. Look, Lloyd. Greg Lloyd, man. What we talking about Kevin Green.

[Joe Hayden]

Now, you just see, man. Bro, you don't have to. You're gonna have to sit down and really sit down and think and put it down because it's. Who do you like? It's personal opinions. That's why I'm always with the. The suit. You can't let. No. Nobody's wavering who you like. So when you write down your list,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

boy, Greg Lloyd was my go to. Like when I finally gave up them losers over there in Cleveland and went to Pittsburgh. That was my dude. Great.

[Joe Hayden]

Lloyd gave up what?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What you said of Cleveland. When I gave up, when I was, you know, when I said, hey, I had to give up childish things and become a man. And they left and went to Baltimore and then they fought to keep those doodoo brown colors. That's when I was like, I'm out of here. I can't keep doing childish things and living in, you know, in childish ways.

[Joe Hayden]

I gotta.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I gotta grow up. I gotta be a man. And I became a Pittsburgh. Still defend. Gotcha. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Joe Stilling grew up.

[Joe Hayden]

All right. Debo.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm just saying. I was just asking. I'm not.

[Joe Hayden]

This golf course right here, Oakmont, Pittsburgh. Best. One of the best golf course in the world.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

And Good old bird.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Good old bird, baby. Good old bird.

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