Nightcap Hour 2: Jaylen Brown & Stephen A. Smith BEEF Gets HEATED + Complex’s 30 BEST Lakers + MVP BANS Claressa Shields After SLAPPING Alicia Bumgardner + Travis Hunter’s $200K JAGUAR Bass Boat + Diamondback’s 120oz Nacho Bucket

Summary

Nightcap – Hour 2 Recap (May 19, 2026)

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”) with Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)
Episode Theme: The sports night after a wild NBA playoff game, with instant reactions to major NBA beef, boxing controversy, NFL/college football anecdotes, new lists/awards, and plenty of the crew’s trademark unfiltered banter.

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Episode Overview

The core of this energetic Nightcap hour is the heated public spat between Celtics star Jaylen Brown and ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith, dissected from multiple angles by the panel. The group also breaks down Complex’s new “30 Best Lakers” list, the shocking ban of Claressa Shields from MVP boxing events, Travis Hunter’s extravagant fishing boat, and, with their usual irreverence, everything from giant ballpark nacho buckets to the etiquette of public bathrooms. The episode is soaked in authenticity, bro energy, and sharp, witty sports insight.

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Major Segments & Key Discussions

1. Jaylen Brown vs. Stephen A. Smith: “Beef Gets Heated”

Timestamps: [02:30] – [14:50], [20:43] – [25:21]

• Background: Jaylen Brown accused NBA refs of bias and Stephen A. Smith of “clickbait,” saying Stephen A. is not real journalism. Smith snapped back, warning JB: “Be careful what you wish for… you really want me to start reporting on that level?”
• Panel’s Take:
  • Unc: Loves that social media gives athletes their own platforms. “Mainstream media has always been able to control the perception on how we as fans or critics are able to perceive athletes… now players have a way to fire back, they have a way to fight back.” [03:23]
  • Ocho: Finds it troubling that it’s “always us” publicly beefing: “You don’t see no other culture or no other ethnicity who goes at each other like we go at each other… Sometimes things are better left unsaid.” [06:11]
  • The Stephen A Warning: “Be careful what you wish for… you understand locker room, how organization may think about you, how the city may feel about you, how Jason Tatum may or may not feel about you. Sneaker deals, endorsement deals. The list goes on.” (Paraphrasing Smith) [04:34]
  • On Players Responding: Unc advocates for a face-to-face between Stephen A. and JB. “That’s something that mainstream media isn’t used to just yet.” [09:19]
• Notable Insight: The hosts distinguish between critiquing performance and making it personal, referencing how the likes of LeBron and Kobe rarely responded to pundit pressure.
• Panel Resolutions: Professional criticism is part of being in sports media, but drawing the personal line is crucial. “[As a media member], I don’t want to become a part of the story.” (Unc) [07:05]

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2. The Complex Top 30 Lakers of All Time

Timestamps: [29:35] – [34:52]

• List Highlights: Magic Johnson #1, Kobe #2, Kareem #3, Shaq #4, Jerry West #5, with more modern and obscure names filling out the 30 spots.
• Panel Reactions:
  • Unc: Jokes about not knowing “half them people.” [30:23]
  • Ocho: Points to the “availability” factor, and jokes about the lows and highs of Laker lore.
  • Joe: Analyzes the championship weight in the rankings (“It seems like they got the guys that at least won championship very, very high” [30:47]), questions if Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum belong ahead of Luka Doncic.
  • Consensus: Top three is Magic, Kobe, Kareem. “Ain’t nobody in NBA history got a better starting five than that.” (Joe) [34:29]

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3. Claressa Shields MMA/Boxing Ban After Slapping Alicia Baumgardner

Timestamps: [35:04] – [43:59]

• Event: Shields slapped Baumgardner at a Ronda Rousey fight and was immediately banned from all MVP promotions/events.
• Statements:
  • Alicia (Victim): Called Shields’ behavior a pattern of “hostility, chaos, and attention-seeking.”
  • Shields (Offender): unapologetically aggressive on Twitter.
• Panel’s Reaction:
  • Unc: “There’s a time and a place for this… that wasn't it.” [37:22]
  • Ocho: “You don’t put your damn hands on nobody… No, unless we in the ring.” [38:04]
  • On Fighting: Analyze boxing history’s most famous weigh-in scuffles, but emphasize the ban is deserved; legal action is likely.
  • Physical Mismatch: Clarissa is much bigger physically; fight is impossible to be sanctioned.

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4. Travis Hunter’s $200K Bass Boat Flex

Timestamps: [50:18] – [54:01]

• Joe introduces Travis Hunter’s extravagant new Jaguar fishing boat.
• Panel Banter:
  • Ocho and Unc joke about who can outfish whom.
  • Discussion about the features, maintenance, and unnecessary luxury for casual fishing.

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5. Diamondbacks’ 120oz Nacho Bucket Challenge

Timestamps: [56:59] – [61:18]

• Prompt: MLB asks who you’d bring to tackle the 120oz nacho bucket at a ballgame.
• Panel:
  • Humor about bathroom emergencies after eating that much, and stadium bathroom aversion. “You ain’t gonna make it through the game. Your stomach gonna be…” (Ocho) [57:20]
  • Comedy on bathroom etiquette and the perils of public restrooms.

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6. Q&A and Rapid-Fire Sports Takes

Timestamps: [68:51] – [79:23]

• “Start, Bench, Cut” (Travis Kelce, Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, etc.)
• Why WNBA legend Swin Cash is rarely discussed.
• NBA “Heat vs Warriors” 7-game scenarios.
• Football playbook verbiage breakdown by Unc.
• More playoff basketball: Spurs/Thunder, Wemby dominance, and team dynamics.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Athlete-Controlled Media:
  • “Mainstream media controls the narrative… Now they have platforms, they have social media, and it cuts out the middleman. So I can control how the narrative goes.” – Unc [12:08]
• On Lines in Sports Criticism:
  • “I don’t want to become a part of the story. I’m interviewing somebody, I don’t want to become the part of the story.” – Unc [07:05]
  • “All we can base it on is our years of experience of playing the game, covering the game. That’s it.” – Joe [18:46]
• On Taking Criticism:
  • “If the opposing team fans didn’t like you, you understood that you were a damn good player. They boo you, they don’t boo the guy that… All I got when I’m talking about a player is my word, Ocho. That’s all we got.” – Unc [07:10], [18:46]
• On public beefs among Black athletes & media:
  • “It’s always us, bro… Why we can’t… Why we can’t… Sometimes things are better left unsaid, man.” – Ocho [6:11]
• On Clarissa Shields’ slap:
  • “Come on, bro… you don’t put your damn hands on nobody. No. Unless we in the ring.” – Ocho [38:04]
• Banter Highlight:
  • “You know what they called me in high school…Flipper. Yeah, cause I’m gonna flip your ass, you keep playing with me.” – Unc [52:09]
  • “If you think you gonna catch me like… when I knock five from you… when I slap you…” – Ocho [44:20]
  • “You show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee, and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe…” - Ocho, describing golf attire and comfort [49:01]

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Basketball & Playoff Talk: Spurs, Thunder, and Wemby

Timestamps: [74:00] – [83:51]

• Celebration of Victor Wembanyama’s historic playoff performance: 41 points, 24 rebounds, and dominance in double OT.
• Praise for the young Spurs team, dissecting why OKC fell short, and projecting future greatness for Wemby: “If he keeps this trajectory, Wemby will be in the GOAT discussion.” – Joe [76:49]
• Deep basketball analysis sprinkled with jokes about the old Spurs glory days.

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Banter, Miscellaneous & Animal Tangents

Timestamps: Scattered from [54:10] – [94:34]

• Comedic stretches about wild animal ownership (from pet hyenas to capuchin monkeys and goats) [90:57].
• Jokes about not knowing how to hunt/fish/camp and who would survive longest, punctuated by Unc’s Cub Scout stories.
• Bathroom etiquette, snacks, and the perils of eating too much stadium food – with a surprising amount of detail and laughter.

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The Nightcap Spirit

Throughout, Shannon Sharpe, Ocho, and Joe mix earnest sports insight with unfiltered, hilarious storytelling and friendship. While beefs and controversies got the headlines, the fun came from their ability to turn every topic—whether a Lakers list or a stadium snack—into a warm, witty debate. All wrapped up by the attitude that, “None of this is possible without y’all”—an authentic nod to their fans.

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Final NBA Recap & Sign Off

Timestamps: [95:30] – [99:00]

• Recap of Spurs’ playoff victory, Wembanyama’s record-setting performance, and thanks to supporters and chat participants.
• “We cannot thank you enough. Y’all make it so much fun… I get excited.” – Unc [end]
• Reminder to subscribe, vote for their podcast awards, and an enthusiastic goodnight.

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Structure, Flow & Tone

• The show flows like a group chat at a bar: Structured discussion opening each topic, with tangents often breaking out into wild and witty territory, before snapping back to solid sports analysis.
• Quotes retain the speakers’ voices—honest, fun, sometimes rowdy, but always passionate about the topics and each other.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

You’ll get:

• Inside perspective on athlete-media disputes from people who’ve lived on both sides
• A passionate debate about sports “GOATs” and overlooked legacies
• Entertaining, sometimes hilarious conversations about sports, animals, and life off the field
• Unfiltered opinions and authentic brotherhood, making for a lively and memorable postgame hour
• A fitting close: “None of this is possible without y’all.”

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

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[Unc]

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[Unc]

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[Joe]

All right. God damn JB coming from a guy. Stephen A. This all started when Stephen A. Recently responded to Jalen Brown alleging that the NBA referee had agendas against him during the Celtics closing game the NBA season against the Sixers. JB doubled down on his criticism of Stephen A, saying this. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Stephen A.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Stephen A. Stephen B. Steven. See, like my offer still stands. You want me to be quiet and stop streaming. Well, I want you to be quiet and get off your, and get off these networks because you're not using your platform to do real journalism. Using your platform to use clickbait. Using your platform to. Let's go back and let's, let's use example A.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Unc]

Hey, you know, you know what I like. Let me, let me, let me say this real quick. So many, so many years, for so many times, mainstream media has been able to control the voice. Yeah, ancient media has always been able to control the perception on how we as fans or, or, or critics are, are able to perceive athletes. And this is what I love about social media and Twitch and whatever platforms. It cuts out the middleman. It cuts out the middleman and it gives players a voice now. It allows them to be able to express themselves despite what those that work in the working, you know, the espn, the Foxes and that, that have their thoughts and, and saying what they need to say about said player. Now players have a way to fire back, they have a way to fight back. Some want to do it, some don't. Jalen Brown has to be one. It just happened to be one of those that, you know what I like. I like to engage. You say how you feel. Well, you know what, I have a platform to say how I feel as well. That's something that mainstream media isn't used to just yet. Yeah, but I think more, more players are going to be open to expressing themselves on how they feel, regardless of who it is that has something to say.

[Joe]

Stephen A. Responded this morning on first take, said Jaylen Brown. Be careful what you wish for. You really want me to start reporting on to that level? You understand locker room, how organization may think about you, how the city may feel about you, how Jason Tatum may or may not feel about you. Sneaker deals, endorsement deals. The list goes on and on. The season is over, bro. And you're on Twitch trying to do what I do. Then Big Perk shared a text message from a former Celtics player about JB saying they don't rock with him saying they don't run. JB's recent comments I Got another text that, that says, hey JB tripping. Another text from a former Celtics player said, man, JB lacks accountability. Jb, guess what? A lot of people in that organization, a lot of former players, legend don't agree with you, bro. This instance I can't rock with you. Jb, guess what? There's a lot of former Celtics player that's not rocking with you. I either. Joe, this is, this is your area of expertise. What do you make of this, what's going on and why is is, is Normally a lot of times guys don't fire back because look, we understand getting into a back and forth with one of these guys. All is going to do is continue the cycle. So you know what? Let you have your say. LeBron James has done a great job for the most part of 20 plus years not responding. Kobe really didn't respond to guys. He might say something, but you really didn't know who he was talking to unless you heard somebody say something him in the press conference. But what's going on between Jaylen Brown

[Ocho]

and Honestly, I don't know. But I, I, I, I like that. You know, the players have a voice nowadays, Uncle Ocho. You know, when you use it the right way, you know, the, the, the most disheartening thing is when I see these back and forth or I see the, the petty drama. It's always us, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn, why we can't, you know what I mean? Like it's out. You don't see no other culture or no other ethnicity who goes at each other like we go at each other, you know what I mean? It's all the time. Whether you're doing it for clicks likes or you just don't like a person sometimes, man. Hey, look, sometimes things are better left unsaid, man. Regardless of how you feel about a person, just keep it to your damn self, you know what I mean? But I, I just don't like the back and forth because every time, bro, it's always us. It's us, bro.

[Joe]

You know, there's a saying. Ocho and Joe to success. Success has enemies.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

when I played Ocho, when you played Joe, when you played, if the opposing team fans didn't like you, you understood that you were a damn good player. They boo you. They don't boo the guy that they're gonna get on the field. They don't boo him. They boo you, Ocho, you catching touchdowns, you celebrate. They boo you, Joe, because you scoring basket you make. Hey, you Making this look bad. I was scoring touchdowns, but this. What I just look at it. I have a different perspective because I've been on both sides and I. I don't have a journalism degree, but I always understood. I don't want to become a part of the story. I'm interviewing somebody. I don't want to become the part of the story. I don't want it to be. Did you hear what Shannon Sharp said? I might be discussing something about a player or. I don't think the player is good, but sometimes I think it goes a little far. Yeah, they do. And I don't think it needs to.

[Ocho]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like, you go ahead with Joe.

[Unc]

I mean, I understand what you're saying, uncle and Joe. But so many times, for so many years, mainstream media controls the narrative and perception on athletes. Some of the great ones, they choose not to respond. They respond with their plate. In today's era, now they have platforms, they have social media, and it cuts out the middleman. So I can control how the narrative goes, and I can control how people are supposed to perceive me. I like players being able to fire back. I like players being able to answer back when things are said about them that they don't like. I think it's okay. I think it's okay. If anything, I would love to see is Stephen A. Smith and Jalen Brown face to face. Whatever needs to be talked about, let do it face to face, Whether it's for clicks, whether it's for views, whatever it may be. Hell, goddamn. Use each other to grow each other's. Well, maybe. I mean, not that Stephen A. Needs help, but. Yeah, have them on your show. Sit down for an hour or two. Anything y' all got to discuss, do it face to face.

[Ocho]

I just.

[Unc]

But.

[Ocho]

But when you. When you hit JB File. F. F. Stephen. Al. Stephen, like, as you know, you gonna take offense to that, bro. I don't. Come on, man. I understand you responded, but. Ocho, come on, bro.

[Unc]

Hey, I understand you, Joe. I understand you, but hey, sometimes. Hey, sometimes a. Players fed up, Joe. Players fed up, man. Players are tired of those. Those talking heads that. That are. That are.

[Joe]

That.

[Unc]

That sit high and look low and talk about these players. Now, we. You know, man, it's cool.

[Ocho]

It's cool to fire back, but you still have to control your emotions, bro. Hey, look, you can't take this back once you say it, homeboy.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know what I'm saying? So when you look back at it six months from now, you'd be like, damn, you know, that would kind of, you know, maybe a little harsh how it came out.

[Joe]

But. But. But let me ask you a question. So when the Celtics had a 31 lead, did the refs have an agenda against J?

[Unc]

Hey, that's a good one, because we watched that series. Right.

[Joe]

Okay, well, that's. So it seemed like they only had an agenda once he lost.

[Unc]

Yeah. You noticed that too, huh? Huh?

[Ocho]

And.

[Unc]

And I think that's. And when Perk talks about the accountability part, you know, in that text message, that. That. That comes into play. That comes into play.

[Joe]

No, I'm never doing that.

[Unc]

Oh, I'm. I'm just saying. I'm just saying to be able to say that the refs have an agenda. Well, hell, you was up 3:1, so

[Joe]

you can't say, did they have an agenda, then?

[Unc]

No, absolutely.

[Joe]

And I'm definitely not doing what Perk did, man. Do y' all know how many, like, people that was in my dm? People that you guys know saying some crazy stuff?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

All because, you know, you weren't on Club Shade and you wish this you glad. That's good.

[Unc]

What?

[Joe]

Oh, Ocho like that, huh? Why you ain't tell me?

[Unc]

You know, I don't play about you, but I whoop something.

[Joe]

What Ocho is okay.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Joe]

Because the way I look at it is that Club Shay Shay is a platform. It's bigger than any one individual that's ever come on it. I'm thankful for everybody that's ever given me their time to sit down and have a conversation with me on my platform. Hopefully it was as mutually beneficial for you as it was me. A lot of people have reached out that's been on, man. I appreciate that. Especially a lot of comedians, because you don't see them like, man, I ain't realized. El boy was so funny. Old girl was so funny. I can't wait to go see them. They. Cause, man, I got. Hey, I had forgot how funny they are. So I appreciate that. But me, I'm not fitting to get into no back. And look, I say what I say, look, bro, hopefully, I think the thing is with me. And I tilt my hat off to kd because I saw KD when he had just got traded to Phoenix. He was in the hotel. I walked in, he walked up to me and said, bro, you got a problem with me? I said, why you think I got a problem with problem with you? He said, bro, it's just like the way you talk. I said, katie, I'm passionate. I said, I don't know you to have no problem with you, bro. I respect your game. I said, but when we discuss a player, I'm passionate about the topics that we talk about. That's it. I say, ain't got nothing personal against you. I said, man, every time I see your mom, I have a great conversation with your mom, X, Y and Z. I say, it's never personal to. Because I don't know you personally to make it personal. I say, I'm just passionate about what I talk about, bro. When I have a conversation, when I talk about something, I'm done with it. I'm done with it. Maybe it comes back up again, maybe it doesn't. But if it does, I'll have to address it again. But I'm talking about the play. I'm not talking about you as an individual. I don't know. I've never, I've never seen. I've never been a place other than that one time and seen Kevin Durant. That's it. That one time in the hotel. I haven't been in an event, I haven't been at a club. I haven't been at a function. I saw Kevin Durant in the hotel, we talked for about five, 10 minutes, and that was it. That was the end of it. We exchanged information, we kept it moving. But I said, bro, it's difficult.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

No, you know what, Uncle?

[Ocho]

And.

[Unc]

And it's never personal, too. It's all business. Stephen A. Has a business. Yeah. Jalen Brown also has a business outside of basketball. Now, some people don't like the back and forth stuff.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

If you understand how Stephen A. Has done, what he's done and why he's probably the best at what he does in his career, then you understand why he's the best at what he does. Jalen Brown now has a platform, he has a voice.

[Joe]

And listen.

[Unc]

Some people don't like it. I'm one of the few. I've always been the billion. So I enjoy the back and forth with regards to who it is I. I enjoy. Because it's not going any further than that outside of their, their, Their opinions on how they feel. Whatever it may be.

[Joe]

Right.

[Unc]

I like, I would love for it to be. Once again, the chat might be too. A little too young to remember Howard Cosell and goddamn Muhammad Ali. You talk about art, you talk about art. When it came to banter back and forth, whether it was good or whether it was bad, it was awesome during those times. It was awesome during those times. And hell if it gonna be Stephen A. And One of the few players that decided to respond to him and goddamn Jalen Brown, so be it.

[Joe]

But I think the thing is. I think the thing is. But if you go back and study it, it never got personal with how. No, no, no, no.

[Unc]

Hey, you talk about a pure entertainment, Joe. Yeah, Pure entertainment.

[Joe]

And I think that's. That's the way. That's the way you gotta keep it. It's kind of hard to. Because I think the thing is. Joey, correct me if I'm wrong. Ocho, correct me if I'm wrong is that when you feel like every time you turn the TV on and this man is somehow talking about you in some context that doesn't always have to do with basketball or the court, all the basketball, and he's like, bro, is there not any other NBA players you can talk about? Hey, now, I could be wrong. And maybe it's a topic, you know, you. You try to. I think the thing is what people don't understand and people like, well, man, why you. You still talking about that? I say, because the one thing you learn about television, if it's a one or two hour show, everybody don't start watching at the same time. If you notice, most talk shows, they'll go back and repeat what the first story of the day was, go back and watch the news. And our top story of the day was because everybody don't start watching at the same time. You see, people don't watch programs throughout their entirety. They jump in and out. So maybe when they jumped out, it was a topic they didn't hear. So that's. I know I'm. I'm sharing things with. With fans and trying to let them. Let them know how TV works. So that's why you get a lot of. That's why you get some. Man, you just talked about that an hour ago. Yeah, but somebody's hearing it for the very first time. You heard what, remember Michael Jordan say. They say, mike, why you always get dressed? He said, somebody, hey, somebody might be seeing me for the first time. And I don't want them to see. Yes. I don't want them to see me. Less than impeccable. So everybody doesn't start watching or listening to a program at the same time. So somebody. Because we see sometimes. Hey, they're gonna talk. Hey, are they gonna talk about Detroit, where we Talked about for 45 minutes? Are y' all gonna talk about. Yeah, we talked about that for 20 minutes. So that's. That's kind of how TV works. And so maybe with JB, JB might have tuned in. In the beginning, they were talking about him. They come. He come back an hour later. They talking about the beginning. Like, well, damn, I just left y' all talking about me an hour ago. And, and you.

[Ocho]

You don't know.

[Joe]

You.

[Ocho]

You don't know how guys will perceive, like, constructive criticism or criticism alone.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean? Like, it's like, if I hear you on TV talking about me in a disdain way or, you know, in a way that I don't like, you know, when I see you, I'm gonna, you know, I probably have a little frown on my face. Like, man, it's so. You know what I mean? I probably say that to myself, Ocho, but I ain't gonna come out here and be like, you know, oh, man, you a itchy ass. You know what I mean? Like, to myself, man, it's old.

[Unc]

But see, Joe, you. Joe, you quiet, though, Joe, that's. That's not your character. JB is one of those. And you have to understand, too, when it comes to players or players need to understand, everybody's not going to like you, especially the talking heads that have to talk about you, you know, and that. That's just. That's the nature of the business. And, Joe, you know how I felt about the media. I don't. I don't care if you like me or not. I'm going to keep being. I'm going to keep being myself regardless of what you say. I never fire back. I just try to do more stuff to piss you off, to give you something to talk about. But in JB's situation, I know they gonna do it. They don't need to like each other. Sit down, hash out what they need to talk about. And that would be one of the. Listen for. For jb, what he trying to do with Twitch and whatever platform he is. Stephen a gonna come on there. He gonna come on there.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

And I guarantee you the same thing about Step. He listen. The same thing Cat Williams did for Club Sh. Shay. And taking that. I'm almost cursed taking that out the stratosphere. It's gonna be the same effect when Stephen A sit down with jb. You ain't gotta like each other. This is business, man.

[Joe]

Yeah, I think sometimes. Don't, Joe. A lot of times guys like, man, I say, you know, and I talked to God, said, so tell me what I said was wrong, man, you weren't wrong, but I just didn't expect you to say that. I didn't say anything about you personally because I don't know anything about you. I, I'm talking about your play. I say, how can I in good conscience go on TV and say you're playing good and the fans are watching the game and they saw you play terrible? The only thing I got when I'm talking about a player is my word, Ocho. That's all we got. All we can base it on is our years of experience of playing the game, covering the game. That's it. Yeah, so I go out there and every time I. And you playing bad, and I said, boy, he ate, he's a. And if I'm saying you're playing bad, I'm talking about right now. I don't take away anything you've done. You might be a two, three, four or five time first team all pro. You might be a perennial promo player, but I got, I gotta, I gotta. In sports, the one thing about sports, it allows you to update your resume. And you don't get to update your resume like a normal person in the workplace where they advise you to update your resume every three months, you gotta update your resume every week. So this is a week to week thing. So I said, I said, tell me, I said, if I said something that was out of line, tell me what I said, bro. Cause I'm never gonna talk about what you got going on. Your family life, your home life. I don't care, I don't care about that. That's, that's in the tabloids or something else. I'm going to talk about what I saw based on my experience, based on my knowledge of the game. And I watched that game today. This is what I saw. That's it.

[Unc]

Hey, you also got to understand, hey, bro, that's.

[Joe]

You know what they're like, man. Oh, you be, man, you be hard, but you be, you be right, though. But you be hard. I say, man, I'm just, it's just my tone. I said, bro, I'm passionate about stuff.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, you know, this era, this era is a little different when it comes to, you know, being critical now. It's a little different, Joe.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, you know, I got them old school ways, you know. You know, you got them old school ways.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I already know. Hey, you never heard talk about me when I was playing.

[Joe]

Yo, listen, but, but I had information, Ocho. I had that shoe situation.

[Unc]

You sat on it. See. Hey, let me tell you something, boy. That's why I love you. That's why, that's why I beat a. About you, boy. You hear me?

[Joe]

Hey, yeah, I saw that.

[Unc]

I had that. That's why I love you. Hey, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Let me tell you. Hey, Unc. Boy, he used to kill me, boy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

He was listening.

[Ocho]

Was he being honest? Was he being honest?

[Unc]

I deserved it. But I liked it, though. I liked it. Listen, hey, Joe, I tried to bribe the referee with a dollar bill, right?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

In the middle of the game when he came. When. You know how they challenge, they throw this.

[Joe]

They came out for a replacement. So I tried to.

[Unc]

I tried to bribe the ref as a joke, like, hey, take this dollar. Let me get that catch.

[Ocho]

Yeah, man.

[Unc]

I went on TV the next day,

[Ocho]

and it got at you, man.

[Unc]

They should. They should suspend him and find him 250,000.

[Joe]

I'm like, well, God damn. Because now it's even more. Because what did they say, man? That rip on the tape? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So any. Because sometimes. Sometimes any mention of impropriety, it gets people thinking. You say, oh, yeah. Oh, that referee on the tape. Oh, he must have. He must have bet the Cowboys. Well, he got this player in his parlor.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Come on, man. Hey, hey, Joe, man, you. You know, and that's how it is. No, no, no. The. The thing is, I'm not an insider. I'm gonna let Adam Schefter. I'm gonna let those guys do that. But I have a lot of information. I just sit on it because I. I can't in good. I cannot in good conscience say all the things that I know, especially when you're dealing with my people.

[Unc]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Joe]

So I don't care what y' all say, but if it was this. Yeah, I probably would. Yeah, it's one of us. No, I ain't doing it, so. I ain't doing it, and they can't. And the thing is that, hey, maybe. Or maybe I go back on network television, maybe I don't. But on this platform, when I know things. That's why a whole lot of times when I get information, I got a lot more information that Adam Shefton don't have.

[Ocho]

Damn. Hey, hey, hey. If you go back on television, though, you gotta bring me an OO with your. Here.

[Unc]

Hold on, hold on. I already. Oh, no, wait.

[Ocho]

I'm just letting you know.

[Unc]

Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, you know I got information, too. You know I'm going back to tv, right? I don't know if I'm supposed to

[Joe]

be saying this right now.

[Ocho]

He got information.

[Unc]

Hey, let me. I'm just saying. Hey, I ain't Adam Scheffer, and I ain't shams.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, I told UNC last year, now, now we a package deal. Now, you can play if you want to. Hey, I show up to work on my own, whether I'm scheduled or not. Hey, Joe. Hey. I walk on set in the full suit, where I sit at.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. All I asked was just one day out the week. But I don't ask for much. You know, they miss one day. Come talk some, you know, I mean, if y' all need me further notice.

[Joe]

Okay. I think the only one time. One time I said something about Russ, and then everybody jumped, say, oh, you lying, you lying, you lying. So I had to pull receipts. And then when I pulled the receipts later, it came out, others started to report it. I said, but y' all said I was lying. Y' all said, it's. I ain't telling what somebody. I'm telling what I know.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I said, from that point on, I said, I'm never doing it again. And I've had. I've had more important stuff than that. Ah. And they've tried to get me to say it on. On Undisputed. I'm like, nah. Why not? Nope. Cause it ain't worth it to me, right? I. I said I couldn't get good conscious, live with myself if I put that man business out there like that. Something. Some things.

[Ocho]

Hey, man, you're a good dude, bro.

[Joe]

If they don't know, it ain't. It ain't. It ain't for you. It ain't for you to unearth.

[Ocho]

You're a good dude.

[Joe]

Something should stay covered up. That's my approach now. So from that point on.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey. I'm a good dude, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he all right.

[Unc]

He could have threw me under the butt.

[Joe]

He could have threw me under the

[Unc]

bus when I plan, man. So, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

No, no, no.

[Unc]

I couldn't do that. Hey, if anybody ever say anything to you, well, I'm gonna hit him. I'm gonna hit him with one of these, boy. You hear me? I'm gonna give him that frizz.

[Joe]

I'm gonna give that fresh warning.

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

Ocho, I got another record.

[Ocho]

What you got?

[Joe]

Complex released the 30 best Lakers of all time.

[Unc]

Well, that. That. That's.

[Joe]

Magic Johnson is 1, Kobe is 2. Kareem is 3. Shaq is 4. Jerry west is 5. Miken Worthy, Baylor, James Powell, Goodrich, Wilt Mickelson, Jamal Wilkes, Anthony Davis. Excuse me. Jim Pollard, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, Norm Nixon, Derek Fisher, A.C. green, Lamar Odom, Robert Ori, Andrew Bynum, Slater Martin, Rick Fox, Bob McAdoo, Happy Harrison, Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones twice. And Luca Doncic.

[Unc]

Damn, man, I don't even know half them people. Joe, go ahead.

[Ocho]

Oh, you. You talking about Luca being last? That was you thinking.

[Joe]

Yep. That. Whatever they got to say the 30th best Laker of all time.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, what. Hey, best. Best ability is availability. You know, hey, this Lakers, man, they ain't. Hey, hey, they ain't gonna sit back too much longer and deal with none of this.

[Joe]

It seems like they got the guys that at least won championship wreck. Very, very high. It's hard for me to believe that Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum are better than Luka Donchi.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, let's.

[Joe]

Let's just. Let's just be all the way actually real. I know they were. And remember, you guys, we had that conversation about a week ago, people. Now all of a sudden, if somebody won a championship, were you better than him?

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

Well, they got AD Better than Fisher, and Fisher got fired with. I Don't know if they remember, but Bob McAdoo. Bob McAdoo won a championship with the Lakers.

[Ocho]

You gonna have some controversy with that one.

[Joe]

I remember Bob McAdoo was. Got drafted by the Buffalo Bird. Joe, you remember the Throwbacks. I got the Throwback jersey. And then he ended up going to the Clippers because the Braves became the Clippers. They was down in San Diego. Then they moved up to la. That's how they got Clippers.

[Unc]

The Buffalo who?

[Joe]

The Buffalo Braves.

[Unc]

That was the basketball team. Well, what year that was?

[Joe]

70, I think the Clip. I think they moved us. I think they moved to San Diego back in what, 77.

[Unc]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Ocho, Ocho, he don't miss nothing, do he?

[Unc]

Man, wait, hey, 1978. I ain't never heard of no Buffalo Braves.

[Joe]

When they move. When they moved to San Diego because they moved to LA and. Hey, hey, McAdoo came out of Carolina, he had to come out like 70. When he come out, I'm gonna say 70, 74, 75.

[Ocho]

Early

[Joe]

72. Damn. So he went to Buffalo, Buffalo Braves from 72 to what, 76, 77, 78.

[Unc]

They became the San Diego Clippers.

[Joe]

And then they moved to. They moved to LA in what, 84. And then he came. He went to the lakers in what, 85. So he's only. He's on the 82. Damn. I ain't know he's on there that long. So he won. So he won two championships with him. He won 82. Okay.

[Guest Narrator]

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[Joe]

I mean, that's a maybe, Magic. I mean, the Lakers, I mean, the only list pro. I mean, that's comparable to this is probably the Celtics, because they're two of the teams that's been around the longest, Joe and Ocho. So you got one team that's won what, 18, 19 championships, which is the Celtics. The other team that's won 17, which is the Lakers. And obviously the Lakers have been to like 30 something.

[Ocho]

Finals, historic, historically, man, they. Hey, it's hard to put them guys in places like that because they've had so many greats to come through there and play

[Joe]

in football. It's like the packers, the Bears, the Giants, the Steelers. Oh, you talk about teams that been around. You know, packers been around since the beginning, so. But I mean, it goes back and forth. I, for me, I, I think Magic. But I can see the top three. What? The order that you put them in. But that's the top three. Magic, Kobe and, and, and, And Kareem.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

I mean, I don't know. I bet you won't find a team that got three better players than those three. Name a team that you think got three better players than those three dot Hell, they top five. Magic, Kobe, Kareem Shaq, Jerry West. Ain't nobody touching that five. Ain't nobody in NBA history got a better starting five than that.

[Ocho]

Let me think.

[Joe]

I mean, because people don't look

[Unc]

all

[Joe]

time Laker not an all time great player. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. LeBron is an all time great player. He's not the greatest Heat player. That's D. Wade. Yeah, okay. Not even mad. I ain't. Clarissa Shields has been banned from all Envy appeal. Ocho, I didn't know this. You knew this. I heard about it, but I thought it was. I thought it was. Shields has been banned from all MVP events after slapping Alicia Bumgardner at the Ronda Rousey fight. Oo watch the video.

[Ocho]

Heavy handed ass.

[Joe]

Hey, one more time. Check this out. O get a close look now. Here we go. She say this is what she tweeted. I'mma continue giving you B I T C H E S's hell. Respectfully, that, that little, little ass girl said, I'll beat your ass right now. After already disrespecting me. Now you classy and playing victim. Can't go around threatening people and take that and try to get that lick

[Ocho]

back

[Joe]

and Ms. Shield. She got the double. Double bag. She got the double. She got the double. MVP is. Hold on. MVP issued a statement tonight, said effectively immediately Clarissa Shields is banned from all MVP events until further notice. There is a time and a place for a fight for fighter tension and banter, but to physically attack a fellow athlete while they're a guest inside a private VIP area is unacceptable. Alicia issued her own statement tonight saying she's taking legal action and added this behavior reflects a repeated pattern of hostility, chaos, and a teak attention seeking conduct that continues to embarrass women's sports. Hold on. All right, Ocho. This is this.

[Unc]

Yeah, right here.

[Joe]

Boxing, the fight game. Where you at on this?

[Unc]

That's tough too. Hey, Joe. It's tough. It's one thing when the men do it, but, but, but to see the women do it go, you know, go at it like this. I mean, I'm kind of stuck. Listen, I, I love, I love Lisa, I love Clarissa. There, there's. There's a time and a place for this at this event. You know, that, that, that wasn't it. Wasn't it, Joe?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Ojo. Ocho, you know Damn. Well, she was dead wrong.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Hey, listen, they've been going at it for a minute, Joe. They've been going at it for a minute.

[Ocho]

But look, though, in sports, what's the competitive edge? If I got a person who is emotionally unstable, meaning if I say something, it's gonna piss you off, then I'm gonna continue to antagonize you, bro.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You know what I mean? But you don't put your damn hands on nobody. No. Unless we in the ring. But for you to haul off and slap that girl like that. Come on, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

That's wrong. That's wrong. I. I think at some point, and Joe, I think she's probably gonna issue apology. She gonna issue apology one time. I understand, Jo. I think it's something I gotta get right now, what I'm saying. But listen, they can't fight each other. We talk about two completely different weight classes, you know? Two completely different weight classes.

[Joe]

I mean, Clarissa said she'll go down, but bomb gardening gonna have to come up at least.

[Unc]

Yeah, that's too much. It's impossible to make that fight happen. I think Clarissa is gonna. Gonna. She's gonna issue an apology at some point, say she's sorry, and I think they just won't do the back and forth anymore through. Through the media, through outlets, because they've been taking jabs at each other for a very long time now. And, I mean, it's sad.

[Ocho]

It's sad to see this man talking about. This man talking about a damn apology. Man.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Ocho]

That damn apology you talking about. Here, girl off and knock five from that girl. Let's slap the taste out of mouth. Come on, man.

[Joe]

Yeah. And you heard it, Ocho. Hey, we're gonna play that again.

[Unc]

You ain't got to keep playing.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. She said watch your mouth.

[Joe]

You gonna talk about some apology.

[Unc]

Can I ask you a question? A fight with these two can't be made because of the. The disparity and weight in weight.

[Joe]

Classy.

[Shaq]

It's.

[Unc]

It's almost. It's impossible. Well, the only thing Clarissa can do at this point is apologize, you know, for. For what she did. No, now, you guys, I mean, she might not accept it. It might be. It might. It might be too late to apologize after the actions and what you've already done. But. But now with Alicia, you know, seeking legal action, I mean, I hate that it's come to this.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey. Hey.

[Joe]

Either. Hell, I hate that it come to this, too. Hey, I.

[Unc]

Hey, hey. I like. I Like both of them, man, they some dog. They some dogs in that goddamn ring, man. But I hate that it came to this. I. I wish they could have kept the entertainment value of it, you know, behind the mic and continue to take your shots about who's better at. At whatever it is. I mean, you guys would never have opportunity to fight each other, but it should have never gotten to this point.

[Joe]

Yeah, I hate it. I hate it. But hey, you know, and I think sometimes, you know, when you try to sell a fight, you trying to hype something up. I can see if these two guys were trying to fight each other and you know, you like, hey, look, I'm g. Try to get at you, you try to get at me. I mean, we've seen it happen before, actually. At weigh in, we saw Mike Tyson, remember when he bit Lennox Lewis? We saw somebody get. I'm trying to think, Rick, Bo, when he fired off on Larry. Do you remember that? I remember both doing that pulling. Go YouTube it, man.

[Ocho]

He hit that man in like the way in or what?

[Unc]

We in?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Oh, man, come on, October. I'm talking about a solid two piece, old average man. He's ko. I'm talking about.

[Unc]

Damn, man.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, you gotta. No, I. Look, I, I can't get down with that, man. Look, I, I'm just.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm using the ring with Carissa. She a big girl. Ain't your man.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she, she's stripping down. I mean, she probably walking around 185. Maybe 190. Cause she's stripping down. I mean, she's fought at what, 75? I think this last fight she was at what, 65. But no, she, she's solid woman. She. And she off season, so she might be.

[Unc]

Hey, Unc, now tell him how small Alicia is.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she probably walk around. What you thinking, Ocho? 140?

[Unc]

Maybe if that.

[Joe]

30? Maybe if that, man.

[Unc]

Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Damn, man.

[Joe]

So she. So she probably walking around. She fights at super featherweight 130. So the problem. She walking around 140. Ocho. Maybe Clarissa fight it, could fight it fight at 175. Yeah. So you drop. I mean, you fighting 175, Ocho. You. You a. You probably a couple of meals. You up for the 200?

[Unc]

Damn.

[Joe]

Yo, but she's solid. Yeah, she. She a solid lay a woman. She'll grow. She a grown ass woman. And like you said, she started boxing because she had anger issues.

[Ocho]

She's showing it.

[Joe]

You know what I'm saying? She's like.

[Ocho]

She's showing it, and she like.

[Joe]

Because think about it, Ocho, what she always talk about, she want to fight, Man. Look here. Is she fighting at one? You got to realize, guys, she's fighting at 175. So she's coming down 15, 20, 30 pounds. You talk about get all the way. You talk about go all the way down to 150. Hell, no. No, I don't. I don't see that happen. But hope, look, hopefully, like I. Like I said, man, I just. I don't know how y' all operate. If I know. Look, somebody that I might not really rock with, I might be. We might have to be at the same event. But I'm gonna be over here. They're gonna be over there.

[Unc]

Hey. Hey, Joe.

[Ocho]

What's up?

[Unc]

Hey, you might catch. You might. You might.

[Ocho]

You might not. I might. I might not catch a damn thing. I knew you.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, Joe, he said he gonna apologize. Hey, hey, Joe, he already got the apology.

[Unc]

I might catch you like that. You don't give my goddamn 500. I know that, man.

[Ocho]

You got me. Hey, hey. You got me being home boy.

[Joe]

If you think.

[Ocho]

If you think you gonna catch me like you got now. It might sound like that when I. When I knock five from you, when I slap you in, get your ass. You know what I mean?

[Unc]

Hey, you ain't even gonna know. I'm gonna walk up like I'm shaking your hand and five.

[Joe]

Nah.

[Ocho]

Now. Damn eyes, homeboy. So I know when I see you, it's on site.

[Joe]

Cause I got. So you ain't gonna let it walk.

[Ocho]

My fade anyway, from the. From the tickets from Magic City. I gotta get my fade. Before we do anything else, I gotta get my fade. Homeboy.

[Unc]

Listen.

[Joe]

Hello. You know, I thought we going to the UFC fight.

[Ocho]

I'm whipping his ass before we go.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey, Joe, they gonna have. They gonna have to have security pull me off his ass.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. All right.

[Unc]

All right.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Unc]

Hey, you. Hey, hey, hey, uncle, you got. You got the okay for us to go to the fight already?

[Joe]

I called them.

[Unc]

Okay. Oh, yeah. Hey, so before my. Hey.

[Joe]

And then we got Fanatics fans, we got Fanatics Fest the next week in.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay, but we'll set it up so I can. So I can go on. Hey, hey, listen.

[Unc]

Hey, we. We can go at Fanatics Fest.

[Joe]

Look, we got. What you call it, we got the apex right here, the UFC right up here.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, we can Go get an octagonist.

[Ocho]

I don't know what you waiting on. I've been telling you to call them folk, man. Tell them so we can get on the Pacquiao Mayweather undercard or something.

[Unc]

Hey, one. Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

You.

[Unc]

You don't want to see me on camera, Joe. I lump your ass up in front of the world.

[Ocho]

Got me? You got me. So Ben home.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Unc]

Let me tell you something. You gonna be bent. Pause.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know how you. Hey, hey. See, here you go.

[Joe]

Here you go. Here you go.

[Ocho]

Here you go. Hey, I don't know what you got going on, brother, but you need to get it together, okay? This ain't that. I'm just letting you know, all right? You can't help but to talk freaky weird, man. We man, you what?

[Joe]

What?

[Unc]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey, hey. I. I advise you, keep it cute. Well, for your face look different, huh? You hear me? Well, hey, hey, hey. I'm. Hey, hey, Joe. I'm surgical with these hands, Joe. Stop playing with me. I'm not gonna tell you no more now.

[Ocho]

Hey, Chad. Chad. I'm gonna give y' all something to see. I'm gonna give y' all some real content. When I whoop his ass, I promise you.

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[Joe]

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[Guest Narrator]

Hey, what up y'?

[Joe]

All?

[Guest Narrator]

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[Unc]

Joe, let's go. Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, when I say I want to go fishing style, this is what I'm talking about. Check out Travis Hunter New $200,000 bass boat, Jaguar fishing boat. The boat features fish finders, a spacious deck, high end seated.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah,

[Joe]

they got. They probably got that way. Got that whale.

[Ocho]

Hey, he ain't got no top on that joint.

[Joe]

No, that's. Oh, Joe, that's a baby.

[Unc]

Hey, he don't fish. He don't know about.

[Ocho]

I'm saying. I'm saying we go out there and go fishing, man, it's gonna be. It's gonna be kind of high. Unless y' all want to.

[Joe]

That's a bass boat, Joe. You ain't going deep sea in that. That's a bass boat. You go on a lake, you go

[Ocho]

on a. Oh, he got his own lake. Are you saying because he. He enjoyed fishing. He just bought. He just bought him a bass boat just to go cruise around? Okay. Yeah, okay. Okay.

[Joe]

Now, if you're going deep sea fishing, because the water.

[Ocho]

But what's all. What's up? What's all this hot.

[Joe]

Anything might happen in D.C. so a big storm come up, you want to be covered. But a bass boat, for the most part, they don't have. They don't have covers like that.

[Ocho]

What's all that? What's all the gadgets and stuff he got on here?

[Joe]

Because those are fat. Those are fish finders. So they'll tell you where the fish are. Yeah, and so you. Yeah, you just go right. You just pull right up there on them.

[Unc]

Hey, man, Joe don't know nothing about no fishing, man. When you want to hit the water, man, when you. Hey, when you want to hit the water, huh?

[Ocho]

I bet I outfish. Hey, I bet. I bet I outfish you.

[Unc]

I bet I throw you in the water.

[Ocho]

I bet you don't.

[Unc]

Okay. Bet some.

[Ocho]

Yeah, and if I do. If I do go, I bet you come with me.

[Unc]

Hey, I hope you know how to swim.

[Ocho]

It's like a fish, homeboy.

[Unc]

Okay?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No.

[Unc]

Hey, you know what they called me in high school? Huh?

[Ocho]

I don't give a damn what they called you in high school, okay? I'll tell you that right now.

[Unc]

Hey, they call. Hey, they called me Flipper.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Yeah. Cause I'm gonna flip your ass, you keep playing with me.

[Joe]

Yeah, but that's A little bit. Hey, I want no boat. I, I, hey, look, I, I go out there fishing with somebody, but I mean, it's, that's, that's a nice. What kind? I'm trying to, I'm trying to look

[Ocho]

at the engine Too much. Too much.

[Joe]

You got mercury. Every rule.

[Ocho]

Too much maintenance, ain't it?

[Joe]

Man, oh, man, bust out another thousand boat b. Oh, and I, I, I'm not gonna go enough to get that kind of.

[Unc]

Yeah, especially for that.

[Joe]

Hey, I know somebody got one. Hey. And I just go. Hey, I just go out.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm not putting. No, I'm not. The store. That thing and. Oh, hell no. Hell to the nah. Like I said, I don't think it's like that. Hell, I go shore fishing. I can fish from the.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, that's what I used to do.

[Joe]

What? Fish from the.

[Unc]

Yeah. On the banks of Jordan.

[Joe]

Look, this man talking about fishing in the banks of Georgia. You can't fish it no damn.

[Unc]

Now, you know they got good catfish out there.

[Joe]

Boy, you talking about the River Jordan. Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Unc]

You know, like Reverend James Cleveland. I stood on the banks of Jordan. Yeah, yeah, they got good catfish.

[Joe]

I think the River Jordan might be. Hold on. Is the River Jordan can fish, even live in that? That might be salt water, Joe, but

[Unc]

you ain't never had no salt water catfish.

[Joe]

But I'm thinking, I think the concentration might be too high for fish.

[Unc]

They live there.

[Joe]

What's is fish in the River Jordan?

[Unc]

Catfish. This dude.

[Ocho]

People eat.

[Joe]

People eat.

[Unc]

Yeah. I, I, Hey, I catch it right there and cook it right there on the spot.

[Ocho]

You ain't, you ain't, you ain't like that.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe, I know how to clean fish and all. Job was a cub Scout. Joe, Joe, I was a cub Scout. Fish scouts honor. I know how to start a fire and all, Joe.

[Joe]

But. Oh, Lord, now he know how to start. Yeah,

[Unc]

you take the two rocks like this. You create the friction, man.

[Joe]

You're not down. Don't know how to.

[Ocho]

Hey, wait till we.

[Unc]

Hey, wait till we go out in the woods. We gotta go hunt.

[Joe]

I told you, I'm not going out there. We going.

[Unc]

I thought we were going hunting. No, come on, man.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, you want to go hunt for wild boar, man?

[Ocho]

Listen, I'm kind of with Unc, man. I kind of gotta see your skill before we get out there.

[Unc]

I got skill. Hey, Joe, I use a bow. I won't take no gun. I won't take no rifle. Take my bow.

[Ocho]

You gonna take your Bow.

[Unc]

Yeah, they used to call me Tarzan back in the day.

[Ocho]

You can't come out there with all that Isy Miyake on, though.

[Unc]

No, I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have on deer piss.

[Ocho]

Okay. All right.

[Unc]

Yeah. I'm telling you, y', all, you know, I used to. I used to hunt with my quarterback, Carson.

[Ocho]

Hey, well, so we are gonna get it. You gonna get your tent. I got my tent. We make sure Unc got his tent. We gonna go. We go. We go out in the woods and camp for a couple days and. Yeah, and we only eat the stuff that we can.

[Unc]

We can catch.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, listen, I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be perched up in a tree.

[Ocho]

I ain't. I ain't.

[Unc]

I ain't sleeping on the floor, man.

[Ocho]

Here you go. Here you go.

[Joe]

Oh, yo, you don't even know how to get on the tree stand. The hell you talking about?

[Unc]

How you mean I don't know how to get in a tree stand? Hey, I got spurs. Hey.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Unc]

Let me tell you. I got spurs from the Timberlands to climb the tree.

[Ocho]

Hey,

[Unc]

Lord, what happened?

[Joe]

I'm. I'm good. I'mma let you have it. Yeah, and people get baptized in it.

[Unc]

Oh, in the River Jordan. They got catfish in there. That's why I got baptized on.

[Ocho]

I know.

[Joe]

It didn't work.

[Unc]

I know. It's starting to wear off now. It's starting to wear off.

[Joe]

No, I'm good. Joe, you and I go fishing. That man. I'm not going nowhere near with that man.

[Ocho]

Right, right.

[Joe]

Hey, he ain't never shot a gun. Not no long rifle.

[Unc]

Hey, I been had a stick on me. I'm telling you.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. That ain't no long rifle. A handgun and a long rifle and 2000.

[Unc]

I know how to shoot a long rifle, too.

[Joe]

No, I'm good.

[Unc]

Hey, you know, they used to call me.

[Joe]

Hey, I'm good. I take your word for it.

[Unc]

Hey, when I used to go hunt with Carson and Jordan Palmer.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

They didn't know they called me Rambo.

[Joe]

See?

[Unc]

No, no. Just because of my skill set. And when it comes to hunting, that's all.

[Ocho]

Come on, bro.

[Joe]

You see, MLB tweeted the image with this caption. You and a friend have nine innings to complete 128 ounce nacho bucket at a damn game. Who you taking?

[Unc]

What is that? Huh?

[Joe]

It's nachos. And it looked like it got some Fruity Pebbles or something. Oh, no, them beans.

[Ocho]

Well, your stomach.

[Joe]

Hey, no, I Can't.

[Ocho]

You ain't gonna make it through.

[Joe]

You.

[Ocho]

You ain't gonna make it through the game. Your stomach gonna be.

[Joe]

Hey, don't nobody call me. I am not messing with the beans. Oh, no, hey, I'm not.

[Unc]

I'm not. I only.

[Joe]

Then I got to be out there. I got to be out there in the wilderness for a week. I ain't fooling with them beans.

[Unc]

I don't even like. I don't even like nachos like that unless I'm at the movie theater.

[Ocho]

Ain't gonna lie. They look good, though.

[Joe]

That right there, Joe, all that sour cream. Oh, no, I couldn't do that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I got to be. Hey, hey. I need to be close by the house, though.

[Joe]

I need to be.

[Ocho]

I need to be in distance, boy.

[Joe]

Hey, you got nine innings.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you know they got a bathroom at the stadium, huh?

[Ocho]

No, sir. I can't use that one, which. I'm sorry. Hey. Too many people coming in and out for my liking that. If you go to the toilet, it's got.

[Joe]

Hey, I told you that some. Hey, they don't smash the pumpkin.

[Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Joe]

Nah, I'm good.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe, all you got to do is dress the toilet, lay the toilet twice, and go ahead and sit your head down now.

[Joe]

Oh, man, I don't know. Look here. I know everybody done been to an airport or done been to a ball game. Ain't no way.

[Unc]

Hey, y', all. Y', all, listen, y'. All. Bougie.

[Joe]

I'm.

[Unc]

Hey, I'm going at the stadium. Well, first of all, at the stadium, if I got.

[Joe]

So you ain't got to worry about me. Good luck to whoever gonna eat it. But Shannon's not.

[Unc]

Yeah, I got you. I'm sitting down.

[Ocho]

Oh, no.

[Joe]

Oh, my goodness. I mean, I. I like nachos. Like I said, I like. I'm not the biggest nacho eater. I can't even remember the last time I had damn nachos now that I

[Unc]

had to move out theater. That's the last time I had some.

[Joe]

Yeah, I ain't been to the movie theater. I ain't been to the movie theater

[Ocho]

since the pandemic, man, you know what?

[Joe]

And I didn't have. I didn't have nachos. I went to. What's the place? I pick. I went to. I pick. Hey, and, you know, they bring you food. You got. You know what?

[Unc]

I had.

[Joe]

I had the. The fried. The. The. The chicken and waffles. The fried chicken.

[Unc]

What kind of epic y' all got?

[Joe]

Oh, that thing recline.

[Unc]

They get.

[Joe]

They used to give you warm blankets, used to give you free popcorn, pillows, but they. You know, they don't. They don't stop that because once covet happened, they cut it out. But, nah, I. I only. My. That's my sister. My sister Nacho. I ain't no Nacho person.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Joe]

And like I said, I need. I need. I need to be home.

[Ocho]

I got to be careful, I'm telling you.

[Joe]

What's in there? Oh, it's a little cheese. Some. Some awesome. Let me. Hey, let me go over here to the cookie.

[Ocho]

To the cookie, right. Hey, the house got to be in close range, though.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But this. This big old thing, man, do you know. I mean, think about how. How deep that bus is big.

[Unc]

That ain't. That ain't nothing but a bucket, like, for Halloween for the kids. So, you know, it's big.

[Joe]

I'm good. I mean, I like. I mean, I'm saying some stadiums have really, really good food, but I'm gonna get to the staples. Let me get a burger. Let me get chicken tenders. Let me get some stuff like that.

[Unc]

Nah, get. Let me get my hot dogs.

[Joe]

The Dodger, The. The Dodgers got a.

[Ocho]

A.

[Unc]

A.

[Joe]

A actual helmet that's full of ice. Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

You ain't gonna make it. You ain't make it two end with that, sir. But, you know, it's. It's Some people, like, oo, Uncle. They don't mind going to the little restroom. The. The public. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

And sitting man, I be saying that. Joe, watch on the plane. I see somebody going there for, like, 15, 20 minutes. Now, what you think?

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. Now. It's when you get out. It's like when you get off that plane, you use that bathroom in the airport, and you see, and there's so many toilet. You already know somebody. And I'm talking about cutting up. Oh, okay. I can't be in here long.

[Joe]

Hey, I don't do no talking in the bathroom. I hold my breath. I ain't inhaling none of them.

[Unc]

Hey,

[Joe]

I thought, hey, I throw that head.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Fact.

[Joe]

Hey, Mr. Sharp, can I. And people be trying to take a picture. I said, bro, I'm not gonna take no picture with you in the bathroom. So you want the urinals in the back. So that's the backdrop of the picture. All right, bro. Hey, Joe, I'll be doing this right here. Yeah, I'mma get you out there. Nah, bro, Y'. All. Y' all need to stop. They gotta stop. Oh, man, that joke before. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey, hey, But you know Joe, that joker there he go drop.

[Ocho]

I already know it.

[Unc]

That's what we we on earth for. Y' all complicate life too much. When you got to use the bathroom, you use the bathroom. That's the point. That's why they have bathrooms there.

[Joe]

I tell you what, if I'm in a public setting, I'm gonna be like a sloth. Cause you know, a sloth only go to the bathroom once a week.

[Unc]

Hey, hey. Joe and Unc listen. And in the chat, the chat. I'm not sure how y' all feel about it. Wherever I am, if I got to do number one, I got number do number two. As long as they got toilet tissue, boy, I'm going. I don't. I don't care. Hold on, hold on.

[Joe]

I bet I won't invite him.

[Unc]

Hey, ain't talk about going number two. I ain't talking about being in there no 15, 20 minutes. Well, I'm going in there. Whatever. Coming up out is coming up right away. I'm wiping.

[Ocho]

Boom.

[Unc]

You get. I get four wipes.

[Ocho]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Unc]

You hear me?

[Ocho]

Oh, no.

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[Joe]

Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's just a regular guy.

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People never believe me when I say I'm just like them. I take out the trash, do dishes, and I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa. And a lot of adults with obesity also struggle with moderate to severe osa. You know, those scary breathing interruptions during sleep, the loud snoring, choking and daytime fatigue. I knew I had to talk to my doctor. Don't sleep on the symptoms. Learn more@don'tsleeponosa.com this information is provided by

[Shaq]

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[Joe]

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[Guest Narrator]

Hey, what up y'?

[Joe]

All?

[Guest Narrator]

Summer moves like a great jam session. You start with one idea, one direction, and then it shifts. Somebody calls. Energy changes. You take a detour. That's the beauty of it for me. Summer's always been about discovery. New sounds, new places, new people, new ideas. You start one place, end up somewhere completely different. And somehow that's exactly where you're supposed to be. I've always had my spots along the way. Starbucks has been one of those constants. Before a session, on the way to a gig, and between conversations that turn into something bigger than you expected. It's part of that movement, part of that rhythm. The summer's got its own soundtrack, too. You can almost hear it without trying. Life's happening all around you. That feeling of staying open to whatever's next. Sometimes it's the smallest things that lock you into that moment. What you're holding, what you're sipping. The new Tropical Butterfly Refresher from Starbucks. Guava and passion fruit flavors with mango pineapple flavored pearls. Cold, colorful, alive. Feels like something made for the day that's still unfolding. And that's the thing. Sometimes One small stop changes the whole mood of your day. Start your summer break rhythm with Starbucks. Try the new Tropical Butterfly Refresher from Starbucks.

[Unc]

I'm out of there.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Look. That's why when we.

[Joe]

I can't. I can't poop because I gotta be naked. Huh?

[Unc]

You got. Damn.

[Joe]

What you five years old, I take off every. Every piece of clothes I got. I don't want nothing wrong. I gotta be legs wide. But you gotta realize that's how I grew up in the South. When I had to go outside, I had to take my clothes off because you didn't want to do clothes. So I take my clothes, I fold them up, set them right there in front of me, and I was good. So I grew up like that. So now I go to the bathroom, all my stuff. Nice.

[Ocho]

And hey, listen. Hey, hey. When we was in New York and they had all that damn food, right before we watched that movie, I was like. I said, damn, I want to try some of this food. But, boy, I ain't gonna make it through the damn movie if I try to.

[Joe]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And that's what, you know, I have Shelly. She'll let. Yo. Okay. You know, but most of the time, I keep. I keep lactate. I keep emotional moment just in case I never. You never know.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Just. Just. Just, you know, hold me over until I cut.

[Ocho]

That's. Hey, hey, Ocho. That's how. That's how the motor fold. Do they keep a little. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Keep something on them for just in case purpose.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I keep toilet paper in my car.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Unc]

Hey, Unc, you'll pull over. You'll pull up on the side of the street and squat. You pull up on the side of the street and squat. Huh?

[Joe]

I got a. I got a Ziploc bag.

[Unc]

No. Okay, okay. Are you a real one?

[Joe]

I like that. I like that. I like that.

[Ocho]

That man ain't pulling over squatting on the side of the road, though.

[Unc]

Who.

[Joe]

Who on. I go up in the woods. I go up in the wig, right? Hey, I do that before I use the bathroom in public. And I damn sure ain't using no gas station bathroom.

[Ocho]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Joe]

Y', all, y'. All, Y' all better than. You're too nasty. Before we get to our super chats, we got two video voicemail from my Discord.

[Ocho]

Let you take a listen, Ocho. ISO. I got a star bench cut for each of you. Travis Kelsey, Antonio Gates, Jason Wittenberg. Ocho Keenan Allen, Marcus Colston or Antoine Randall. L ISO. Jeff Teague, Devin Harris or Darren Williams.

[Unc]

I'm gonna go first. Keenan Allen.

[Joe]

Go ahead.

[Unc]

Marcus Colston, Antoine Randall. Aleo. That's my start. Bench cut.

[Joe]

Oh, the tough. I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start.

[Guest Narrator]

Damn.

[Joe]

I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start. Nephew, I bench Gates. Sorry, Whitney.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start. T. Bench d. Will, I gotta cut hairs.

[Joe]

Damn, joe.

[Ocho]

Damn. What? What?

[Joe]

Here's our second one. Let's take a listen.

[Ocho]

What's good, Unc? Ocho ISO. Hello. Hey, just a couple questions. Why in the wnba when people talk about the wnba, no one ever talks about swing cash. What you think about swing cash? Ocho, have you ever seen Khabib wrestled a bear when he was a kid? I know y' all was talking about UFC a while ago, but he wrestled a bear when he was a kid. And also, I hate to bring up old stuff, but I remember when you didn't pay Ocho to five. I was waiting on you hitting with that. Man, I ain't paying the 5. I'm waiting on you to hit it with that. Hey, love y' all show, man. Y' all keep up the good work.

[Joe]

Yeah, I think, look, I think Swan had a. She's another Yukon dude.

[Ocho]

Nice.

[Joe]

And I think she had unbelievable.

[Ocho]

Nice.

[Joe]

But we're talking about Candace DT in Asia and, and, and, and we talking Lauren Jackson, Lisa Leslie. We talk about Cheryl Swoop, Cynthia Cooper, Stewie. I don't think she's on that level. Maya Moore. That's just me. Now, some people might think and she, she had an unbelievable college career. She has unbelievable WNBA career. But I think on that level, I don't think she was quite there. Brandon Martinez, stop playing BTA whole AK OKC lineup. Talk your ish. Ocho, stop playing B T A B

[Unc]

T. Hey, don't, don't question my ball knowledge, man. That's all, that's all you know?

[Joe]

Yeah. You feeling good right now? Hey, guys, who wins a seven game series, the 2011 Heat or the 2017 Warriors? Can you and Ocho break down the NFL play and how verbiage is used?

[Ocho]

Hey, that Heat, that he team was serious. I know that warriors team.

[Joe]

Nah, we might need the 2012. Not that 2011. That 2011 lost to the, the mav. You might need to get that 2012 or 2013.

[Ocho]

But I think, I think the reason they lost was because, you know, Brian having to understand, you know, I, I, I, I Just like D. Wade say he went to him and told him, man, look, you lead this thing. I'm. I'm a robin to your Batman. And I. I feel like that was the mistake that was made in the first finals. Once they got that together, they was able to string a couple.

[Joe]

Can you break down a play? And how verbiage is understood. Red right. Red is right. Is telling you the formation. Then they'll give you two jet. Let's just say red right, two jet, flanker, drive. Red is the formation. Red right, two jet is telling the offensive line. We're telling the line to protection. Flanker drive is telling the receivers what to do. Flanker, you got a drive route. Tight end, you got a basic cross. Normally we'll send. We could. We can tag it and put X on a comeback, or we can put it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Post so the formation line, protection. Then it tells everybody else what's to do, what to do.

[Unc]

Damn. You still remember plays?

[Joe]

I do. I do.

[Unc]

Why could. I could remember a play right now if I. If I needed to. Right.

[Joe]

Yeah, I. I still. If I probably could go look at our playbook.

[Unc]

Oh. And now if I give me a. Give me now if I see my playbook, it recall.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

I'll be able to recall stuff.

[Ocho]

But yeah.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Unc]

Damn. It's been a minute.

[Joe]

Far double wing. Yeah. MC Robinson the alien has landed and made a statement. He's here.

[Ocho]

He damn sure is.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, bareface. The NBA need height limits. This is not fair.

[Ocho]

Hey, it don't seem fair at times, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah. I'm like, damn.

[Joe]

Women got that old school dog in him. Where was all that smoke from? Chat? Kobe would have loved him. He. He does. I mean, you see the way. What he talked about in the All Star game. He said he gonna compete. He there to compete.

[Ocho]

Man. They do want to win. Right now I'm talking about. Right. I ain't talking about now. I'm talking about right now.

[Unc]

Right now. I got to have it.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I love it. And it bothers him when he doesn't win. The only reason the game was closed because Caruso had 31. Good luck getting that again. SGA. More free throws than field goals made. Wimby is the best and it ain't close. He made SGA look bad. I. So what were you talking about? Spurs believe they're better. They are better. I would. Ocho. I don't understand how anyone with a ball knowledge think the Thunders. The Thunder are winning this series.

[Ocho]

Amen. You Said, what do you say? Why do I say that? What?

[Joe]

Yeah, you say you the Spur. You said the spurs believe they're better. He said they are?

[Ocho]

Yeah. No, when I hear Wimby speak and he say that we they the best team in the world. I heard Stephon Castle at halftime, he said, man, look, if we take care of the ball, Obviously he had 11 turnovers, but he said it at halftime. If we take care of the ball and come down and get great shots, we're the best team in the world. So by hearing those guys say that, it kind of conveys to me like man, listen, they really. It's one thing to have talent and be good, but when you really believe you the best team, bro, and you go out there and show it, that's a whole different story.

[Joe]

It absolutely is. If the spurs can limit the turnovers, they can easily be okay seeing six Wimy is going to be crazy in the next three to five years, but good call on the Spurs. Oo yeah. And that's the thing, cuz. What happened when the rubber needed to meet the role in Game 4 against the Lakers, Lakers could take care of the ball. And that. And see that is the thing this, why the game was close, is that if, if, if, if the spurs would have taken care of the ball, this is a double digit win for them. Because if you look at it, every time they got a double digit lead, they come down and have two, three consecutive turnovers. And guess what? OKC right back in the ball game. And when you play them, because they're good, they're good with their hands, they play past the lane. They're, they're very, they're a very good basketball team. But limited turnovers and you limit those opportunities. I haven't felt this good about my spurs since Timmy. If he keeps this trajectory, Wimby will be the goat. Will be in the goat.

[Ocho]

I agree too.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, if he doesn't have four or five Defensive player of the year. If he doesn't have at least. I'm Saying what, Joe 3?

[Ocho]

Yeah, for sure he gonna be up there.

[Joe]

Yeah, because I don't see nobody, nobody for the next five years. Should nobody win? Defensive player?

[Ocho]

Absolutely. I say for. Yeah, for the next five to seven years. Hell, if he stay healthy. Man, please. The man gonna average. What do you have? How many blocks he averaged this year?

[Joe]

He gonna average three to four.

[Ocho]

He's gonna probably average more than that. But you know, he's still figuring things out. I think he.

[Joe]

But the problem that he's gonna run Into Joe is that they're gonna be so good, they're gonna be blowing teams out. He gonna have his ass on the bench. So he ain't gonna be. He ain't gonna be playing, you know, 38, 39. I don't think that he'll ever play it like a regular season game. I don't think he's gonna play those. That kind of minutes, Joe, because I got protected.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Joe]

God, you think about it, Joe. He played. He played 49 minutes tonight, and that's with 10 minutes of overtime. So he was gonna be. He's. He's at 39 minutes now. Think about it. If the game's not that close, he gonna be somewhere around 29, 30.

[Ocho]

But you know, he. He's such a competitor. Uncle Ocho, he takes me for a guy who wants to be out there with his squad, competing. Yeah, that's the problem you're gonna have. You know, it's hard to keep guys.

[Joe]

I gotta protect him against him. I got to protect him against himself. Because like you say, Joe, he's going for. But, but I. But I know that body, Joe. I don't know if that body made the play like the young guys. Like, you go look at Kobe and look at his minutes totals in his early 20s. Kobe playing 40, 41, 42 minutes. Look at Lebron. Look at them guys. I don't know if he built like that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, well, we gonna see.

[Joe]

I got. I. I gotta be. I gotta be very mindful.

[Ocho]

We're gonna see.

[Joe]

How do they even stop, Wendy? This guy is so annoying. So annoying. Damn. Can somebody explain why Wemby is guarding Caruso? No way. Brothers should have eight three pointers made. That's the only reason OKC stayed in the game. Wemby really wasn't guarding him. I think the thing was, is that they did a great job of. Of swinging the basketball because what happens, you see one of those guys get on the edge. Mainly Shay. The hell comes you talk. Hey, we he kicking. Hold on. Shay had 12 assist

[Ocho]

when they still. He averages when they sub Hardenstein out, brought in Caruso.

[Joe]

He gotta shoot. Gotta shoot. You gotta. You gotta be space the floor now. Hey. Now he gotta spread out because think about it. He's guarding check, check. Can go to the three point line. He's gotta honor check a check and knock down the three.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

If this y' all mvp. It ain't too late to take back. Give it to the right.

[Ocho]

Wow.

[Joe]

Look, we. We. You always gonna have this discussion when. When I Mean and and guys take it personal. Yeah. Elijah1 took it personal. He felt he should have been an MVP over David Robinson. And when he got a chance to go against David Robinson.

[Ocho]

Go look at destroyed him. Go look at destroyed him. Wim be the same way here would

[Joe]

Jordan got an opportunity to go against

[Ocho]

Carl Malone and Charles Barkley when he wanted destroyed them.

[Joe]

They take that issue personal.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we'll be taking it personal.

[Joe]

Okay. See finally have competition after the last week playoff run. Sons Laker with Dookie. Last year they played Memphis. The year before the Pelicans.

[Ocho]

Damn. They can't help. They can't help who they play.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

It's the playoffs and we compete throughout the season. We get the number one seed. We can't help this. The we, you know, we, we got

[Joe]

the play in or have however the chip fall. What it means. In the beef between them Johnson boys. Can I get a shout out to my boys, Tigers, Snoop and Ace? Daddy love y'. All. Absolutely. Nah, Joe gotta, Joe, Joe, Joe gotta get his gift. Get, get his money back.

[Unc]

Yeah, I hope so.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

I, I, I hope so.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I'm gonna knock the Mario coins out there.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Unc]

He he. Hell, laugh all you want.

[Ocho]

I don't like the Mario coins out there, boy.

[Unc]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe]

Doug Tiger sn your dad want to let y' all know that he loves y'.

[Unc]

All.

[Joe]

He proud of y'. All. Keep it a good one.

[Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Doug, appreciate the shout out, man. Appreciate you tuning in, man. It means a lot. Where would you rank WIMBY performance tonight? All time. It's hard. It's one of the best ones.

[Ocho]

I can see that.

[Joe]

I mean, I've seen Jordan score 55. Like I said, I saw Jordan. We saw LeBron. We saw LeBron. What he did to the the Celtics in game six. 45, 14, 7. We. We, we. We saw what he did against Detroit when Detroit was going to the Eastern Conference finals every year and going to the. He goes 24 to last. He drops 48, scores 24. The last 25. We. We've seen great playoff run, but this is up there.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

This is absolutely up there. Kareem had had a. What was that? 85. Like I said, Kareem just don't get the credit. I'm like I say, Karina, y' all need to look up some of Kareem performances. Even when. How was Kareem when he won finals MVP, like 37, 38, 36. He had to be like 36, 37 and 85. 38. Wow. Let that Sink in, Joe. That man won Finals MVP at 38.

[Ocho]

Damn. That's why it was hard.

[Joe]

So he won. He won his first one at 24. He won the next one at 38.

[Ocho]

And, and look, that's why they didn't think nobody would ever catch his scoring record. And oh, here. Here alone comes LeBron James. Damn, boy, putting that thing out of reach.

[Joe]

Like I said, I know he gonna play at least another year, maybe two. Alize, don't play. Please give my boyfriend Marquez a shout out on his 28th birthday. We watch you guys faithfully. Happy birthday. I love you, Marquez, bro.

[Unc]

Happy birthday, twin.

[Joe]

Hey, yeah. Happy 28th birthday. So you guys watch us all the time. We appreciate that it's people like you that make people like us extremely, extremely happy. Because like I said before, without you guys, none of this is possible. None of this is possible. Mr. 85, this is Mr. Irrelevant. But Shannon and I appreciate the waddle tree. Let's go, Bronco.

[Ocho]

Dang.

[Joe]

This team, they want to do something. Trade us a, a, A chase.

[Unc]

What?

[Ocho]

Oh, man, come on. You got to be realistic now, man.

[Unc]

Please. Oh, good.

[Joe]

We broke those guys spirit with his physicality. They don't feel the thunder. Not once did Wendy let them break him. And OKC got hell to deal with.

[Ocho]

He learned. He learned from that last series, bro. The Minnesota series. Now he already know they. Hey, look, Pop didn't Talk to him, Ms. Johnson. And talk to him, the coach. Hey, man, this is going to be the mechanism to try and slow you down.

[Joe]

Yep. You know what I like about it, I think, is that when he calls for the ball and he doesn't get it, he don't get frustrated, right.

[Ocho]

He just play along, just keep playing.

[Joe]

He just play. Give me next time. And you think about it. You think about it, Joe. I mean, you know, a lot of times guys like, come on, man, and they look at the bench and they lag down the field. He hugged and busted it down there and he be dog. Oh, he was fumes.

[Ocho]

Hey, y' all know and guys who, who play basketball, we hate that too, bro. Like if we try to get you the ball and can't get it to you, you throw a little mini fit. It's almost like football. Hell, the quarterback don't throw you the ball. Now, Unc ain't running the damn router. He pitching and throwing a fool. He. Yeah, same thing. Quarterbacks hate that, man. Players hate that in basketball too. Damn, bro. We trying to get you the ball. But then we ain't just gonna force it. We Gonna miss you sometimes.

[Joe]

Hey, did you see the guy front you?

[Ocho]

And.

[Joe]

I saw. I see what you can't see. They got a guy behind you. Damn. Now get your ass down here and get this rebound DD Cool. Beat up. Would you use the public airport bathroom? For the Ravens to win the Super Bowl? Yeah. It got to be closed for a week. They got to clean it, but you talking about, like, do it. Hey, I land.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And then people like. Like Hartsfield, Like Atlanta. No.

[Unc]

Hell, no.

[Joe]

For them to win a Super. You would do that?

[Ocho]

You wouldn't do that for your team, bro?

[Joe]

Hell, no. Damn, no.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe. He ain't living, man.

[Joe]

What you mean, ain't living, man? Nobody don't want to go put that booty down.

[Unc]

Hey, you gotta dress the toilet up with toilet tissue.

[Joe]

I'mma dress it up. I. I don't gotta dress mine up at home.

[Unc]

Yeah, you only live one.

[Joe]

Nah, if they let me. If they let me bring some Lysol, some pine sauce.

[Ocho]

Yeah,

[Joe]

I'm gonna scrub it. I'm gonna scrub it down. I'm gonna scrub the floor.

[Ocho]

I'm talking about even if that thing. That thing splattered up on the back of it.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Need a Hazmat suit to go up in there.

[Unc]

Y' all tripping, man.

[Joe]

But I can't, man. You going. You going there, and. Man, somebody ain't even flush the toilet. I can't even. I said no. Let me go. I just.

[Unc]

You gotta flush it behind him, huh?

[Ocho]

Oh, hell, no.

[Unc]

You gotta use your foot. Use your foot.

[Joe]

No, I ain't touching. I don't want to. Look. I can't.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I'll leave about it.

[Joe]

Hey, hey.

[Unc]

Ain't nothing but a little. Little, you know, a little.

[Ocho]

Hey, you gotta chill, bro.

[Unc]

I'm just telling you, man. Listen, we all. We all do it, man. Ain't nothing to be ashamed of.

[Joe]

I know we do it, Ocho, but I'm saying, I. I mean, somebody. I mean, come on, bro. How lazy are you? How you forget to flush that money?

[Unc]

I mean, listen, I mean, that. That shouldn't really buy. You got dogs. They all.

[Ocho]

Nah, hell no. Come on, man. That ain'.

[Joe]

They don't go in the house. They house, bro.

[Unc]

They train.

[Joe]

Yeah, the little. The little ones that go, go, go, go lay down. Go sit right by the door.

[Unc]

Okay. Hey, Joe, your dog trained, too?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Okay. Okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho]

Hey, he trying to get off in your. If you get out of line. Yeah.

[Unc]

Yeah. I would think about stealing your dog, too.

[Ocho]

Right? Yeah. Okay. Come on.

[Unc]

Yeah. Okay. What kind of dog you got?

[Ocho]

I have a presser, Canaria and a Frenchie.

[Unc]

A presser? Who?

[Ocho]

Oppressor Canaria.

[Unc]

Yeah. Wait, I'm still there. I'm still. That press box.

[Ocho]

It's in the master family. Same Unc got a boreble. They same family. They just in different breed.

[Joe]

Them bobbles a little.

[Ocho]

Probably a little bigger. Bigger head, a little more muscular.

[Joe]

Yeah, you come steal mine if you want it.

[Unc]

Hey, wait. One thing.

[Joe]

Hey, you come still by it if you want.

[Unc]

One thing about it, if I want your dog, I'm gonna come get him, boy.

[Ocho]

Hey, Ocho, let me tell you something. One thing about masters, bro. You ain't really got to train them for them to be protective. That's just naturally who they are.

[Unc]

So you think you're gonna protect you?

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, he ain't. But he gonna die. He gonna die by me.

[Joe]

I tell you what, I tell you what I do. I go upstairs and go in my room. I dare you to come upstairs.

[Ocho]

He ain't gonna make it.

[Unc]

Hey, I bet I get up there before he do.

[Ocho]

He already up there. He in the bed.

[Joe]

He already up here.

[Unc]

Oh, well, I ain't worried about Unc Dog. I want your dog, Joe.

[Ocho]

You want my dog?

[Joe]

We'll come.

[Unc]

Hey, what you got? You said you got a.

[Joe]

A.

[Unc]

What's how you call it again?

[Ocho]

Oppressor Canaria.

[Unc]

You got a canary. And what's the other dog?

[Ocho]

I got a little Frenchie.

[Unc]

Yeah, I'm still a Frenchie.

[Ocho]

My. My French and my presser, they like best friends, though. They ain't.

[Unc]

Yeah, okay. I'm gonna take. I'm take both of them so they keep it like a package.

[Ocho]

Come on.

[Joe]

You keep them together. Hey, I'm gonna take both of them.

[Ocho]

Yeah, well, come on. Bring your tough ass over here. Come on.

[Unc]

Don't worry about it. I'll be there.

[Joe]

All right?

[Unc]

Hey, what kind of. Hey, hey, don't you gotta. Don't you got a dog Challenger? A scat pack, something like that?

[Ocho]

Who you talking about?

[Home Depot Announcer]

On.

[Unc]

Oh, oh, oh, that's you, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah. I gotta.

[Unc]

I gotta let you slide. I'm gonna let you slap me. Let you keep that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

But, hey, them two dogs, Joe. I'm coming to get them, Joe.

[Ocho]

All right. Bet, right? Yeah, I guess we'll be preparing. Getting. Getting your barrier and all that together. Hey, yo, and get your obituary together.

[Unc]

One thing about it, man, it's his appointment. It is an appointment that we can't reschedule. But I'll tell you one thing. You Ain't in control of it.

[Ocho]

Yeah, okay. When you come over here, my damn dog gonna be in control of it.

[Joe]

Hey, that complete? Go ahead.

[Unc]

Hey, you know what I'm get for Christmas? Now that we sit here, talk about dogs and stuff, I'm gonna get a hyena.

[Ocho]

A hyena?

[Unc]

Yeah, you know. You know, they said I got my homeboy down in the hood. He got two hyena puppies right now.

[Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, my homeboy, they call him Clyde, he got two hyenas. I don't know how he got them.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, you know what I want, for real? I want a little capuchin monkey. You know the capuchins?

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, from the movie.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know exactly.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I want one of them, man.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah. They don't cost that much, Joe.

[Ocho]

I know y', all, but you can't

[Joe]

have one in Georgia, though, John. You gotta. You gotta look up. You can't.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I think I already Look. You can have them in Georgia. I know. I gotta come to Florida and give you. I got them out there in Florida, ojo.

[Unc]

Yeah, we got them down here. I think they don't cost that much either, Joe. I think maybe like 1500.

[Joe]

That's.

[Ocho]

That's 1500.

[Joe]

Now, everybody getting that stuff. When they can't handle, they let it go. That's why those. Those pythons, they get so big, the Everglades. Because they get so big, you got to let them out. Yeah, and they ain't got no natural predator, and they killing.

[Ocho]

Hey, Oo. You talking about some damn 1500. The ones I seen ain't. Ain't no less than $8,000.

[Unc]

They trying to rip you off, Joe, for a. You know, we. Hey, Joe, we know we got monkeys right here in the backyard, Joe.

[Ocho]

Kapusha monkey, black cap.

[Unc]

I want to. Hold on, hold on.

[Ocho]

I'm.

[Unc]

I'm. I'm holl at my homeboy, man. The got the hyenas, he got some kabusha. Yeah, we get you 1 for 303.

[Joe]

No, you cannot have a pet monkey in Georgia. All primates, including monkeys, apes are classified as wild animals and strictly banned from private ownership.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe. Hey, don't worry about the rules, Joe.

[Joe]

Exceptions are made properly for licensed organization like zoos, accredited research facilities, wildlife or rehabilitators.

[Unc]

Hey, Joe, don't worry about it. I get you. You want a monkey in Atlanta, we'll get you a monkey in Atlanta, Joe. Hey, how many capuchins you want? You want one or two?

[Ocho]

I just want One, I think.

[Unc]

I think you got a pair of them. He got. He got two of them. You might want to keep them together.

[Guest Narrator]

What's.

[Ocho]

What's. No, no, I want to keep it.

[Joe]

What's.

[Ocho]

What's the. What colors he got?

[Unc]

He got a black one and a gray one.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I want a black cap. One. I want one with a black.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah, you got. You got the black. Another one got a gray cap.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

You sure you don't want to keep them together?

[Ocho]

No, no. Make sure you send me some pictures or some videos or something so I can see what I'm working with.

[Unc]

I'm gonna send something tomorrow, you know. Eight, I think. I think he said, what, like, you get two for 500.

[Ocho]

I tell you what, if I do get. If I do get both of them, can you keep one for me? And I had the other one, and we. We.

[Unc]

Oh, no, Joe. I got white furniture, Joe. Ain't no. Hey, I got all white furniture, Joe. Ain't nothing to be over here, boy,

[Ocho]

but you got you.

[Joe]

I want one of them little dog. I want a little donkey. I want a little donkey. One of them little monkeys or one of them little. To be about this.

[Ocho]

You take one, then you. You get. You get one of them.

[Joe]

Oh, no.

[Ocho]

Tripping.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, you know what I like. Oh, Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, I will, man. You told me. Hey, Unc, I want a raccoon, and let's go. Let raccoon. But I don't. You can't have one in the bottle. You couldn't have one in California. You got to go to, like.

[Ocho]

What we doing with a raccoon? What you going to do with the raccoon?

[Unc]

Domesticated.

[Ocho]

A raccoon?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ocho]

Come on. Damn you and Oo tripping now.

[Unc]

Hey, you know. Hey, you like. I like them. Them little goats that they be running, hopping around, hopping around.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dwarfs. Yeah. They got little mini goats. They got cows.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I want something. I take some of them goes. I want some of them little mini goats, man.

[Joe]

A cow. Look, cow. Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, Chat. Hey, Chat.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, you gotta get a big old. You got to get a big old farm. You got to get some acreage.

[Unc]

Hey, we. We on tomorrow, right? I'm gonna bring one of the hyenas

[Joe]

on the show tomorrow after your. After your. Your Knicks Big Body Bronson.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Joe, you know the name of the characters. Can you name who's on the show?

[Unc]

I see Scooby Doo.

[Ocho]

Daggy.

[Joe]

Yeah, Scooby. What's the.

[Ocho]

What's the rest of it.

[Joe]

Who is this one?

[Unc]

That's Thelma. Oh, Velma. Velma. Velma.

[Joe]

Yes. Who is this?

[Unc]

I forgot her name.

[Ocho]

I did too, bro.

[Unc]

Hey, she thick too.

[Ocho]

Listen to this, man.

[Unc]

Hey, dad.

[Joe]

And then you got Freddy and you got. You got.

[Ocho]

Hey, that was one of my. Hey, hey. Scooby Doo is my. One of my favorite cartoon.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Real talk.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

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