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Joe Hayden
Deebo, I'm doing amazing. Two reasons. One reason my Cleveland Cavaliers won game seven yesterday. I know you saw your boy out there.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just understanding why they had to get all the way to game seven. They had to go all the way to seven. That's crazy.
Joe Hayden
How do you depot. Not with the negativity activity today? I'm not here.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just asking.
Joe Hayden
The first thing is we went and won game seven. And the second thing is I'm very excited about is this my good man's birthday today.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Joe Hayden
Not my good man. My great man, Debo.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Thank you. Thank you very much, man. You know I'm getting up there, baby. 30. Just. Just turn 38, baby.
Joe Hayden
Come on, Debo. You have 50. You are out here lying 10 years. You are 48 years old. A healthy.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What are you talking about?
Joe Hayden
You need to take that 48 to the chin because you.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm trying to tell you right now, you look good.
Joe Hayden
48 don't.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
So I just. I just turned. I just turned 38. You upset because we all. We ain't nothing but a year apart. You just realized that, huh?
Joe Hayden
No, see, Debo You. You're funny.
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Joe Hayden
It's okay.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You upset.
Joe Hayden
Don't be mad.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm not mad, Joe.
Joe Hayden
You aging like fine wine, brother. You know what I'm saying?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I ain't upset, Joe. I ain't upset. I'm just trying to figure out why you trying. You know. Why are you trying to, you know, put an extra 10 on your boy?
Joe Hayden
Because you're 50 for real. That's why. Okay. And I love you, Debo.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Boy, I love you, too, man, but I've got more. 38 the chat. 38?
Joe Hayden
Yeah. That boy.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
38.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the chat. My good man Debo is 48 years old. May 4, a good man was born. And now he is 48 years old and thriving.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Hey, Joe, let me keep it 100 with you, though.
Joe Hayden
Keep it a bean. Keep it a bean with me.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I couldn't remember what I was turning. I'm like, bruh.
Joe Hayden
I'm like.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm like, oh, I might be 49. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Joe Hayden
Them numbers get.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What's going on?
Joe Hayden
The numbers get to running together, Joe.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I had to go back. I had to be like, all right, 78. No, no, no, I'm turning. I'm like, no, no, I'm turning 48. No, I ain't already 40. I was like, Joe, I thought I was going 49 for a minute.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I was going 49 for me.
Joe Hayden
You got to take your time. You got to take your time. So happy birthday to you, Debo.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it.
Joe Hayden
Very, very happy. And I'm gonna say when we had to go to game seven and bump all that we did. You see, we won the game. Jerry Allen. Shout out.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I understand, I understand.
Joe Hayden
Shout out to the Cavs. We trying to go and get busy. We trying to win the ship here.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You do a lot of. We in Cleveland, bro.
Joe Hayden
I do. We in Pittsburgh, too, but you get.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
No, no. They're getting tired of that bull. Fraggle Rock.
Joe Hayden
They're getting tired of it.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
They getting tired of it. I see them. They like, Joe, pick a side and stick to it. They, like, stand on something.
Joe Hayden
I've been standing on it. I've been standing on it. I'm standing on. Hey, know what it is? Hey, I'm rocking with this. You know what it is?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'll just say this, but I love and y' all get this, right?
Joe Hayden
What's up?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What up, though? You know where y' all gotta see where you gotta go? Detroit. You guys Detroit. We do, we do, we do, we do the pisses. What up, though? That's Detroit for y'. All.
Joe Hayden
Can I tell you something? They went to game seven with number eight ranked Orlando, so trying to warm up. Well, why they go to game seven? You say all that? They were trying to warm up. So the cast was trying to warm up.
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Joe Hayden
You know what I'm saying?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Because listen, it was already three one, Joe.
Joe Hayden
It was three ones.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
The people, they're like, hey, can you guys stretch this out? We need to get a 7. We need the ratings. All that other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Hayden
All that Cavs look
James 'Deebo' Harrison
like, come on.
Joe Hayden
My dad's a reverend. I'm going to heaven. Cavs in seven. That's all I know.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Oh, my God. Get out of here, man. Get out.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, you come get that. Yes, sir.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You come get that.
Joe Hayden
That's all I'm telling you. I'm going to have it. My dad's a rapping cabs and sad Cunningham, though. Hey. Oh, he's nice. What I'm not going to do is sit here and disrespect. We going to need my man, huh? We gonna. We got Donovan Mitchell, we got James Harden, and we have a young. We have a man named Jerry Allen that brings his lunch pail to work every day. This man wore the same pair of shoes the entire season. He's not worried about nothing but getting a bucket and getting some rebounds and doing what he gotta do for the team to win.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Dude, that's probably superstition. He don't wanna change his shoes, bro.
Joe Hayden
It gotta be superstition. I don't care. It's making me look like he's a gangster. You gonna wear one pair of shoes for the whole season, bro. Diggs, bro, you can't do that.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
That's no, brother, that's what he's doing. That's so games right.
Joe Hayden
He's wearing one pair of shoes and he has a hole in them joints right now. And he still got 22 and 19 with a hole in his boot. That man, Jerry Allen is a full blown gangster, bro.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm not. I don't. I. That's not. That's not. That can't be good for your ankles. He ain't got no stability, brother.
Joe Hayden
He's wearing ankle braces. He. He's an old school player. He played in the 70s. Jared Allen is reincarnated. He was born before he played back in the day and now he's back again.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He was here once before. I'm trying to tell you Debo, I'm
Joe Hayden
trying to tell you he's wearing old
James 'Deebo' Harrison
and he's wearing his shoes from back then too, huh?
Joe Hayden
Yes. That man Jerry Allen is a gangster. That's why the. That's why Cleveland loves him. Work pale. Work boots. Work ankle braces.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Ankle braces.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Okay, man.
Joe Hayden
Shout out Jerry Allen.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
For sure. For sure. Look here, man.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Our quarterback. Say his name. Okay, I got it.
Joe Hayden
Drew Aller.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Steelers.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Quarterback Drew Aller.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Ranks top five in rookie jersey sales. He's higher than Mendoza. He is only. What? It's only three people ahead of him. It's Caleb Dials, Jacob Rodriguez. Yep.
Joe Hayden
Malachi Lawrence.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Malachi Lawrence is him. And then your boy Fernando Mendozas, he tops out the five.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
So Joe.
Joe Hayden
Yes, sir.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
There's something that people don't understand or may not understand. Like. Like while being drafted high is a.
Joe Hayden
Is a good thing.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What they looking for is. I think it's two things. Expectations player, you know.
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Like so what's the hype behind them, you know, and then it's the fan base that they go into. How dedicated are the fans, Joe? Do you have fans that.
Joe Hayden
That feel. You are correct.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Connected to their team. They feel like family, Joe.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Do they bleed black and yellow, Joe? Hey, Drew alert. He played Penn State homegrown.
Joe Hayden
That's what they feel like. That's what they feel like. That's what they feel like. They feel like they know that man.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
And the fan. Hey, like you. Yes. The fans knowing. Yes. They feel like they know him. That's. That's. That's their guy. You know what I'm saying? When you go to hell, Pitt, Penn State and Pitt play. That's the only time you get some ruckus now. Cause most people go. Go with pit because it's closer to home. You know what I'm saying? Unless you are actual fan of Pitt already.
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Or Penn State. Sorry. Unless you're a fan of Penn State already, then you know, you may, you may switch it up and I mean that's simple mathematics. When you look at it, man.
Joe Hayden
You look at it. Debo. When you're looking at these top jersey sales, obviously like you said, our man's in there. Drew Aller is. Because Penn State homegrown in the, in the, in the state. So everybody's going to buy this jersey. Caleb Downs, the Dallas Cowboys fans are all in. And then the dude, he's probably the best player that was in the draft. So you know the Cowboys going to go crazy. Fernando Mendoza being five and Drew Aller Being over him kind of surprised me because obviously, quarterback, he was expected to be the number one pick. He's coming in. He's clean cut, does it the right way. So I'm just expecting his jersey sales to be higher. So I think Drew Allen, I think the Steelers nation just stood up because they obviously, we want a quarterback. We want somebody to be successful. Somebody wants somebody to hold on to. And then him being from Penn State, him being in the state, I feel like that just made it extra, extra good for everybody in Pittsburgh.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Dude, Mendoza is number five because it is not a lot of hype behind him. He's in a draft class that is considered the weakest since 2022. Draft class. He's in Las Vegas. He's from Indiana. So there's no real change of a crossover from college to pro. Matter of fact, the 22 draft, bruh, that was when we ended up getting Kenny Picketts quarterback.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah, We.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We went and got Kenny Pickens. Okay. The dude's number, he was like, I don't know, 13. I don't know what his number was. It didn't matter. His jersey sales was number one for all rookies. And it was actually number four across the whole league. Okay.
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
And that was because of the hype that was behind him. He was supposed to be the quarterback that was go take over for the air apparent. He was gonna be the replacement for Ben. He was gonna franchise quarterback, and that was supposed to be the dude that was go take over since being that retired. Yeah, none of that happened. But there go the fans again. The guys. You said at what, one and three?
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Got, you, got. You got two Cowboys at one and three Now.
Joe Hayden
Fans gonna pay that.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Hey, it's the Cowboys. The Cowboys, like, they are already delusional. Mind control. I'm dead serious, bro. Like, their fans are talking about Reading boys every year, bro. And they ain't seen a championship since 95, 96, 30 years.
Joe Hayden
I know.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm.
Joe Hayden
I'm not.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
They ain't won nothing but five playoff games in the last 30 years. Since then, they ain't made it out of the divisional round, period.
Joe Hayden
I know, I know. I'm with you.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We ain't hollering about. We about to go to. Hey, hey, here we. Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. We was only out of it for 10. Y' all been out of for 30. Yeah, y' all talking crazy. Delusional.
Joe Hayden
But the crazy part is, though, Debo, their teams aren't that bad. Their teams, they never don't have talent. They never don't have players that are out there. So if I'm there, if I'm their fan base, you thinking when you look at the roster on paper, it looked like you should win something. So that's why I'm like, I'm not blaming them, bro.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I don't care. Listen, I don't care nothing about none of that. They have delusional fans. Everybody is in the hunt when the season start because ain't nobody played the game or lost yet. Hell and hell. Oh, you got the Cleveland Shador last year he was drafted in the fifth round who jersey sales number one as a rookie.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
In the top five as a whole Lead.
Joe Hayden
Yes. Yes.
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James 'Deebo' Harrison
What's behind you? Where you go? The fan base. Y' all delusional too?
Joe Hayden
No.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You know every year y' all think y' all go get to the playoffs and win and the team go do right and they go, they go, they go things to get people and all that other stuff. Yeah. And y' all keep sitting there and y' all sitting there in the dog pounding.
Joe Hayden
We debo this debo it hates. It hurts. It hurts me to say that. You keep on saying that and we my Browns beat the Steelers the last time they played in the playoffs. So all the time all that you talk if it was the fifth we all be drunk and you only as good as your last game. So all that, all that back in the day I don't want to hear it. Okay, y', all.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We.
Joe Hayden
The Steelers ain't won the Super Bowl. The Steelers ain't won a playoff game before. The Browns did.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Okay, we won a Super Bowl.
Joe Hayden
Y' all definitely won a Super Bowl. We definitely want a Super Bowl. And that's when. Yeah, yeah, you did.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You did. I think we lost six of them.
Joe Hayden
We won the championship. Jim Brown got one back in the day. That was back in the day.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Championship in the 50s when it wasn't even a whole league. The didn't even have number, what, six. Okay. All right.
Joe Hayden
I'm not trying to even go there with you right now, brother.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just asking questions. Sometimes stating questions, sometimes stating facts, sometimes stating.
Joe Hayden
Gonna keep watching. I think in my head every single
James 'Deebo' Harrison
day, like, it's crazy how you don't want to talk about someone. The conversation don't start. It start, you know, getting a little iffy over there in Cleveland. I don't understand it, Joe. But we're gonna stay over here in Pittsburgh because we got good things going on here.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, no, for sure.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Okay. So, my guy. What's up, Jennings? Dunker, Big Red. Hey. This dude eating something crazy, brother. Is this.
Joe Hayden
Is this real?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
This is what they're saying, dude. So the night before at 5:30pm it's two to three pasta servings.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Marinara bread, rose A12.
Joe Hayden
Whoa, God. Yes. That's what I'm saying.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Two fruit servings. Okay, so later that day at 8 or that evening at 8:30pm Three hours, three hamburgers. Three hamburgers. Three. Three baked legs. Hydration mix, hot chocolate.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
First thing in the morning.
Joe Hayden
Wake up in the morning.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He got four pieces of toast. Yeah. Two wheaties, bowls, pancakes. Two chicken breasts. 9:00am Four more tortos, plus one chicken breast in the post game. Culver's. You ever ate at Culver's?
Joe Hayden
I have not.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I wasn't. I wasn't overly impressed. It's a double. They ain't got no Culver's here, so you're gonna be out of luck, baby.
Joe Hayden
What's a burger spot?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Yeah, it's a burger spot. It's supposed to be. I wasn't impressed. I ate it in Arizona. That's the same thing. With like, that in and out, that in n out burger.
Joe Hayden
In and out, in and out. Burger is good.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Bro, that ain't nothing but a greasy McDonald's burger.
Joe Hayden
No, it's not.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Stop playing with me. Post game, do the C's Double bacon cheese family family cheese curds, onions ring, onion rings and three ranch sides. Yeah, this right here. I mean, it's before the game. I can see he carving up, bro. How much do he weigh?
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm saying. The pregame. The pregame isn't as crazy for me. I mean, all together, 7:15. The man got eight toast before the game, two, three tricking breasts, two Wheaties bowls, some pancakes and eight pieces of toast the morning before the game. That's a lot of food.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He's talking about a 12 o' clock game, man.
Joe Hayden
He must be talking about one o' clock game.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He might be one of them cats that got to eat a lot to keep their weight.
Joe Hayden
I would he. He has to because otherwise he would be humongous.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Like, did you have any foods that you would eat, like, you know, every time before?
Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I'm doing the pasta, I'm doing the, I'm doing like the. What was it? The noodles with the. Yes. I'm doing like spaghetti, basically before the game with the chicken breast. That's my thing.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
That's it.
Joe Hayden
That's it. That's it. Spaghetti and chicken breast, bruh. Cause my stomach be messed up before the game. I feel, I feel like I really can't eat, but I gotta get something in. So the spaghetti and chicken breast is just normal, smooth, cool. I know it's going to taste the same every time. So I just was going with that. Get something in my belly and go. Cause before the game, I ain't gonna lie deep. I always had not butterflies. But my night before, the night before. And nothing. Nothing specific. Yeah, nothing specific, bro. I just. Yeah, probably the same. I was probably eating the same thing. I was eating that spaghetti the night before because, you know, the team meal, they always got the spaghetti with the chicken breast. Hit that and then in the morning come back down and do the same thing.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Well, see, we ain't had that when I, when I, when I came up. Well, as far as college, I started in college. So in college they would give us. You get like two pizzas. You get two large pizzas before the game. And that was our dinner. Like we was at Kent State, bro. Yeah, that's, you know, that's all they could afford. Yeah, you know, well, at least that's what we thought. But looking back at it, that was a damn lie because we made damn near 70, 80% of the money that was, you know, generated for the athletic program. And it wasn't because we was good, bro. We sucked. It Was because the schools. The school was getting paid by the.
Joe Hayden
Getting paid to go out. To go out there and the damn
James 'Deebo' Harrison
sheep to the wolves for the big boys, for Big Ten, and they give us four or get a school for five, $600,000. Come in there for, you know, two, three games. Every year, you get. You know, you get a few million dollars to get your face kick to be they homecoming game. They warm up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Hayden
Anyway, you was the. You was the Gators. You was the Gators. First game of the season.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Dude got you a nice chat. I ain't gonna deny that.
Joe Hayden
Facts came and got you a nice chat.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We was the first three games, minimum, minimum two, if not four, you go into. Oh, yeah. You get a chance to get in front of the big boys. Y' all get to see, you know, get to play up against the big. I wasn't tripping.
Joe Hayden
I was cool. You gonna hold your own. You grown man. You gonna handle yours. That's for sure.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We get. We getting worked on out there, man. You know, they instruct the band up. It's. It's 30 something to whatever by the time, you know, hit the second quarter. I'm like, man, they got you.
Joe Hayden
They. They ain't let you go in that game with enough bullets, man. You had one. You. You needed some more. You need about eight more, at least.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Yeah. So my thing was the night before the game was to eat pizza. So I think it was, like, 2007. I ended up jumping back into it. I think we were somewhere. I can't remember where we were, but I was like, yo, I want, like, some Papa John's pizza. And that was the thing they used to give us, Papa John's pizza. Oh. With the dip and all that, right?
Joe Hayden
So I'm like, oh, my God,
James 'Deebo' Harrison
yes. They came with it. I ordered it. Dipping sauce, all that, man. I'm a. Smashed the whole pizza, right? And I'm like, sitting up there like, oh, we. The next day, got up eight. I eat a huge breakfast, too, because I get up super early. I try and get to the game, like, at least, like, four hours before the game so I can have all my stuff ready. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to get there as soon as possible. I do all my stuff. I take my own jerseys. I do my. I do everything.
Joe Hayden
Shut up. Seriously.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I don't let him do none of that, bro.
Joe Hayden
Okay. Yes. Okay. I wasn't hip. I was today.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I don't let. I don't let them do none of that.
Joe Hayden
So you get up to the stadium four hours before, right.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
So in 2007, like I said, I ordered that Papa John's, dude. Yeah, man. I felt great. And then it reminded me. I'm like, yo, I used to eat pizza. Like, that's all we had before. Yeah. And I felt great when I played. So I'm like, I'm going back to that. And I don't even know if you was there, the couple games that I did play, but I would order a large pizza. Well, I would actually order two when it came time because other guys started being like, slice and all this other stuff. So we had a Gatorade, and we treated the Gatorade like it was wine. So if you had some red, you say you needed a cab. You had a lighter one, you know, you say it was. It was. It was something to. Yeah. So everybody would get a slice. I still get a whole piece of. To myself, for sure. Everybody else would just grab a slice and it just became a thing where we was, you know, we was breaking bread, like, acting fool. But it was. It was great, bro.
Joe Hayden
See, I wasn't. It must have not been, because I didn't. I ain't never see the slice I need. I. I wish I would have seen it. I would have definitely came over there and grabbed me a slice. Debo.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Yeah. It was only by the time you got there, that was, what, 17? It wasn't. It might have been only like, maybe three people. That was. That was still there from when I originally started doing it. But, dude, it used to be like the whole defense, bro. I was at one time, I was ordering three pieces. I'm like, yo, dog, y' all can't take none of this one. I at least need half of it, bro. Yeah, like Jack. Jack will order. I'd be like, Jack. He'd be like, yeah, Jack.
Joe Hayden
One of the most clutchest people in the world.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, Jack, man. He'd be like, yeah, I got you. Don't worry about it. Giving the money and all that, you know, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So as it come in, we break the meeting. As soon as we break the meetings after the team meeting, we do all our stuff. Yeah. That's when I get the pizza. So I wouldn't even. I wouldn't even eat the regular meal that we had there. I'm like, yo, I'm saving all that. I'd come in there starving, bro. Be ready just to eat that.
Joe Hayden
Hell, no. But that Papa John's pizza with that sauce ain't nothing, bruh.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Come on, bro. Like, hey, I'm gonna tell you another one that's hidden. I don't even know what's the name of it right now.
Joe Hayden
It's.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What is it? I want to say yes, dude, it's pizza. It's around here. I just man, I order it, bro. I like every now and then. It got, it got like a turbo Turbo. They call it Turbo Crush. It's like a garlic turbo crust. Oh my goodness, bro, I'm not here. What's the name of it? Is it jets or. Or is it Fox? I started doing. I started doing that one when I was in Atlanta during Kobe when I was filming heels. Me and my dude Allen. Dude, we was driving 30, 30, 40 minutes, bro, to go get pizza. Like 11 o' clock at night, bro. Man, it was good though, bro. So they got one here, but it's like It's a good 30, 40 minutes away and they don't deliver. So you got to go get it every now and then. You know, your boy gotta run down there and get that. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Hayden
You got to go 45 for the pizza.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Oh, yes, no question. That's one way.
Joe Hayden
Okay, you eating the pizza.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Traffic.
Joe Hayden
You're eating the piece of a shore on the way back in the whip.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Oh, you can't. You can't. What you mean you can't. Yeah, Jets. It's Jets. Jets got the Turbo Crush. Yes, it's Jets. They're right.
Joe Hayden
Jets got the Turbo cross, bruh.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm telling you, when you come here, you got find you a Jets, bro. Make sure me a Turbo cross. I will matter of fact get you the one that only got the corners. You can get it where it got all. Just all corners in there.
Joe Hayden
So you get all corners. So you ah, see, okay, I'm all sides. I'm gonna order that. Get off this.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Lisa, order me some turbo crust, please, Please.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, you know, we need to get to though Debo, because we didn't mean, you know, we ain't talked about. Let's talk about my boys.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Yeah, let's talk about your boys. Let's talk about your boys. About that boy, Todd Monkin.
Joe Hayden
Yes, yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Now they asked him if he had a goal for naming the starting quarterback, if his goal was to name a starting quarterback before training camp.
Joe Hayden
Right?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
And he said, I would love to have that. I'm not there yet. Muckin replied. So I can't say that. You can't say what, dude? You can't say that you have or like, want to have in mind a time frame of when you think you could have enough plays to evaluate the quarterback's performance that you have. Joe, I don't know what this is, but I'm gonna tell you right now, it sounds like a little brownie. Because as you sit there and you look at it a little more, it goes, oh, but he did say, he says this one.
Joe Hayden
What did he say?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He said, good morning. Listen, once we get on the field for four weeks at the end of spring, we'll have a better idea. He continued to then say, but there's only so many reps you get. You've got to start to target towards who. Who's going to start opening day. Okay.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
But then he went browning and he comes back with this.
Joe Hayden
I'm saying, he said browning.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He. He went browning and he comes back with this one. He says, now this can still change.
Joe Hayden
He added,
James 'Deebo' Harrison
that can change even if someone's getting two thirds of the reps or someone's getting a third of the reps. Because you're still going to play preseason games. Yes. You're still going to want to see those guys at quarterback and see how they play.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Why not just say, well, we're going to know who our starting quarterback is before the first regular season game. Leave it at that and keep it going? Because all this stuff he's saying right here, it sound like anybody could be the quarterback. It could be Watson, it could be Shador, it could be Gilbert, it could be Green, the dude they just picked up. Joe, what is going on with your coach here that he can't give a straight answer? And then he seems to be talking about what somebody put out there about the reps being flipped over. Like, why not just say we're gonna, we're gonna figure out who our starting quarterback is before the first regular season game instead of going and giving all this mumble jumbo, double talking. Browning, I guess, because he's coach for the Browns. I don't know. But I'm asking you.
Joe Hayden
This is what I. I understand what you're saying. If I was you, I would do the same thing. Say, it doesn't matter. He needs to have his own. He got his own timetable. So if he says before the first game of the season, Debo, I, I'm with you 1000%. He's kind of like, he don't need to rush. I feel like if he would have said, I'm going to have my starter by the first game of the season. It's just, he's Making more conversation that doesn't need to be made. You're exactly right. I think that when you say things like just only had. They've only had three practices. You know what I'm saying? There's time.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Why? But you only had three practices already switching from who's starting the practice, not even who's starting with the most reps. Because with the ones.
Joe Hayden
Because when you're having a quarterback competition, because when you're having a quarterback competition, that's what you do sometimes. One guy's going to get more reps one day and the next guy is going to get more reps the next day.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Nobody talking about Dylan or.
Joe Hayden
No, this is what I'm saying. No, I mean, obviously Shador was already the starting quarterback. I mean, Shador already started. DeShawn's coming back making $46 million this year. That's the two quarterbacks. Dylan, Gabriel, you had your chance. And Shador, in my opinion, looked like he was better. Has a better trajectory to be actual starting quarterback. So now it's him and DeSean in a quarterback battle. Some days DeSean's going to have more reps, some days Shador is going to have more reps. And people are living and dying by every throw. The quarterbacks and the coach, they going to have to go back, see, watch, evaluate, and then they're going to pick who they want to be the starting quarterback and then we're going to go from there. So it's just everybody like you, everybody like people is just trying to make a big deal out of. Oh no, he's getting more reps this day. He's getting more reps. That support for
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Joe Hayden
okay, that's everybody in the quarterback competition.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You talked to Mary Kay?
Joe Hayden
Look. No, I'm saying you're talking about the article that Mary Kay said. Because Mary Kay's putting out there. Oh, we got more reps this day. Oh, we got. Because that's what happens when you're battling the next day. Shador probably get more reps. Like, it's only.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
She said that. Yeah, I'm sure Mary Kay would Actually said that if that ended up happening and turning back around, because she did. She'd been doing this since the early 80s. She Basically.
Joe Hayden
It doesn't matter.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Experienced, you know, analyst, reporter, sports, however you want to call it.
Joe Hayden
You gonna tell me just because they get voted and win an award, them same people was the one that took. That kept out Bill Belichick. Like there's. They don't know what they don't know some people. She's good.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I like it when I like it and I don't like it and I don't.
Joe Hayden
When I don't like. You know, the reporters out there in Pittsburgh too. If somebody gets a reward, you think that just means that they're good? No, you could still be doing foggy things and win.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Oh, so you saying she ain't good? She just.
Joe Hayden
No, I'm saying that some people could. To each his own. To each his own.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Okay.
Joe Hayden
Okay.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just. I'm just asking because the, you know, with this monking thing, the report says the Browns hired Trent. What is that ballot? And they consoling role.
Joe Hayden
The consultant role.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
So the Browns hired longtime NFL executive exec Trent Balky.
Joe Hayden
Yep.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
In a consultant like capacity. Yo.
Joe Hayden
Too many books in the kitchen.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
No, Joe. Jaguars fired him. The kitchen gym in 2025, off season. And he has been out of the NFL since last season. Okay. Now, during his tenure in Jacksonville, The Jags went 25 and 43 with head coach Urban Meyer and Doug Patterson, along with interim coach Darrell Belvin. Yeah, Autumn. Autumn Got fired, Joe. Everybody got fired.
Joe Hayden
Now look, everybody fired.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Problem, Joe. Here go the problem. Now this, this actually. What is it? It's 25. So that was 25. So in 25, before they got the coach that they actually got now, Liam Cohen. Yeah, he was the old coordinator for the Buccaneers. Right. And he actually had decided to pass on the second interview, a head coach position for. For Jacksonville and stay with the Bucks. Along with it was Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn saying the same thing, that they was gonna pass because they didn't want the job if he was still going to be the gm. And of course, later, Cohen took the job with the incentive that he could pick his own GM. And this all started all the way back in 2014 when old Trent and Jim Hardball was bumping heads, mutually agreed to part ways. More people say it was more like a firing over there than it was a mutual agreement with the owners. Obviously siding with Trent over Jim. And everything went downhill from there until he was fired in 2016. Okay. So he took and didn't want to listen to Jim Harbaugh over there with the 49ers after they had, I think they went to a championship game or won the championship. I can't remember which one it was. But he decided he was big dog. He wanted to do everything his way. Obviously, on the side winning. And it was like, we're going to go your way and we're going to get rid of Jim. Jim went over there to Michigan and started cheating up some storms and winning some money. I mean, winning some games and all that. Anyway. All right, so he would later get fired in 2016 from the 49ers. He would go to the Jaguars in 21 until 24. And it has been a steady decline since then. Bro.
Joe Hayden
Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
What is it about old Trent that y' all brown? See, that makes you or makes your organization want to bring him in to consult about what? How not to do it?
Joe Hayden
I'm with you 1000% on this one. And I'm pissed. I'm just sitting here taking it. What the fuck he gonna come help us consult about? Leave us alone. Don't come over here with your losing vibes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I brought him in, Joe.
Joe Hayden
I don't need none of that energy. Why were you consulting? What are you consulting us about? We're doing just fine. Andrew Barry is over here cooking right now.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I think Andrew Barry brought him in. They say he known for bringing something in. Maybe he's bringing them in to make himself look better than.
Joe Hayden
No, this is all I'm saying. No, look. Look how bad he did.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm gonna bring him in here and try and rehabilitate him.
Joe Hayden
Rehabilitate him. This is all I'm saying. I don't think bringing more cooks in the kitchen is what we need. We just got out.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I thought you said he was cooking. Why would you need somebody else?
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm saying. He's a lone ranger right now. He's my Gordon Ramsay. I don't need nobody else throwing in no damn ingredients or nothing. I like you doing what you're doing. We got the podesta out of there. So now I'm like, okay, you don't have no handcuffs. I feel like you're bringing in handcuffs, Andrew. I. I don't want it. I don't want it to be just on you. You did the draft last year. Amazing. You did the draft this year. I'm loving it. What the hell are you bringing in somebody to consult? You want nobody consulting you? I want you to be doing what you're doing. You and Todd Monkin, y' all consult each other. Y' all figure out what we want to do here. We don't need to bring in.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We know for sure who brought him in.
Joe Hayden
I don't know. And the thing is, I don't care, because I think that when you keep bringing in other consultants, other people, that other. No, we don't need that. You're the general manager.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just trying to see who's trying to sabotage it, that's all. Is it the owner? Is it the GM himself?
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm saying.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
This man been out of it for a whole year, and you want to know nothing positive? I want to know 2014. I want to know what is it that you got? You got pictures of somebody, you got what you got text, what you got that done got you back in here in a consultant capacity, and you ain't did nothing with it since you showed your hand and made Jim Harbaugh get up out of there and saw and. And showed that you couldn't do it and then went over there to Jacksonville. I mean. Yeah, Jacksonville. And did the same thing.
Joe Hayden
This one dumbfounds me because I genuinely don't understand why you would bring him in. I don't. We don't need more cooks. We don't need more people in there. I'd like Sasha. I mean, Andrew Berry. We got you in here. You're cooking. Do what you need to do. So that's. It's a good point. I don't need to ask. Was it Andrew Berry's idea to bring him in? I would hope not.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I would definitely hope it is not, because if it is, that is scary. Yeah, that is scary. And then it's still scary for his job security. If it isn't. It's a scary situation. Either way it go. He's cooking. Yes. I ain't gonna lie. He did good last year. What? He did what they produced. He did good last year, dude. He got all them high drafts. He went and made it work. He. He made it. He made.
Joe Hayden
He.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
He made the. He made it count. Yes. This year, he got. He got some good picks.
Joe Hayden
We'll see if it pans out. Yes.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
But if that's him saying, I'm not too sure what I did, I need a consultant. I'm ready to fire you as the owner if you did that, and if you're the owner, and I'm saying I'm getting a consultant because you ain't cooking right then. Now you sitting there like, is my job even secure? That you got to bring somebody else in.
Joe Hayden
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I just don't understand the fact that when you do have a gm, these. All these consulting people, I'm like, no, you got your scouting. You have your general manager. You have people that run it. Omar. Did Omar have a consultant?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Omar ain't got no consultant, baby.
Joe Hayden
I mean. Cause you don't need no goddamn consultant. Because he's the gm. He consulting with himself, and he consulting with me.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Joe, Joe, feeling some kind of way, man?
Joe Hayden
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Feeling some kind of way when you got that organization? When I go over there to Pittsburgh, bruh, they will always ask me, what's the difference between Cleveland and Pittsburgh? Up top. When you got your GMs and you got what's my man was before Omar.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Kevin Colbert.
Joe Hayden
Kevin Colbert. You got Kevin, you got Omar, you got dudes that don't feel like. When you talk about needing consulting, you're consulting with your head coach. Because we're putting this together. It's me and you, and we're building this team, and we're going to figure it out. The owner may be. You know what I'm saying? But for real. For real, you got your guys, you got your gm, and you got your coach. Y' all are building this squad together. Y' all could be on the same accord when you start bringing in more consultants, what is he consulting you about? You and the coach figure out what y' all need all this extra. Like, you have scouting departments, all those people for show. But when you just bring in somebody. Consultant. What are you talking about? What are you doing?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Hey, man, this could be one of them situations where, you know, hey, they done hired a new coach. He might not have been too sure about the gym. I'm saying, as the owner. As the owner. And the owner is like, you know what? I need somebody on the inside to be all the way inside on everything and tell me what's going on and feed me the tidbits. What's going on. This could be a situation where he might be even trying to sabotage gm.
Joe Hayden
Ask your general manager. That's like a spy.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
That's what it is. Spy. You said spy.
Joe Hayden
You. You hitting.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You trying to hit somebody? What you needed to know, what you want to know because you feel like they might not be telling you the whole story. Hey, you got to think about this, man.
Joe Hayden
What's up?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm. I'm the Haslins. Except I'm Harrison. I'm Harrison. I own the Browns. Okay? And I don't know about football. And I can't do nothing about it. But I got money. I'm a billionaire. You think you go tell me how to run a business and who I want to put in there? Hell, no, you not. You ain't nothing but a millionaire. I'm a billionaire. You'll do as I say when I say it.
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You know that control that comes in,
Joe Hayden
you know that's not what. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Debo. This is not good. They stress me out a little bit. I ain't gonna lie.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Hey, I'm. Hey, it's okay, man. It's okay. You should have knew that this wasn't gonna be a straight pattern of this.
Joe Hayden
We still got. It's just the off season. We got time.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
We gotta get onto the football. Y' all doing. Y' all doing this. The draft already done. Why is y' all even hiring me? For what you telling me he messed up so bad? You hiring somebody right now to help consult for next?
Joe Hayden
But that's the crazy part. He didn't mess up.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just saying.
Joe Hayden
Andrew Barry did not mess up.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just. I know he didn't, bro. I know he didn't. I'm saying. I'm just looking. I'm looking at. I'm just.
Joe Hayden
I'm just.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You know me, man.
Joe Hayden
I gotta.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I gotta hit all avenues. I gotta be able to say, you know, I gotta think. I gotta be able to think unlogical when we're talking about Cleveland.
Joe Hayden
You love when these things happen.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I don't love this.
Joe Hayden
Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Maybe. Yeah. You little.
Joe Hayden
And I don't like it a little.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I might like.
Joe Hayden
I don't like when we do it to ourselves.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I like when y' all do it to yourselves. Because that meant it's. It's. It's cell phone self warfare. Like y' all can't even get out of your own way. That's the greatest we're gonna have.
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It's got this quarterback competition going on. We just need our beautiful ball.
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Come on. We gonna be nice and Shadow gonna be in. That's with old.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
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Joe Hayden
I hope that it works out. But I just think that we don't need another cook. Too many.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Hey, boss, you know what they said?
Joe Hayden
What's up?
James 'Deebo' Harrison
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They damn sure didn't listen to me
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Leave my dog, Mr. Haslam. Leave my dog Mr. Haslam alone, man.
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And I think. I think Monkin went home at 8:35pm he should have been there to 9:15. If I was. If I was head coach, I would be there.
Joe Hayden
Come on, man. I. Todd is in that thing.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
Just saying.
Joe Hayden
Oh, man. My coach in that thing.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I'm just. Hey, listen. I'm just saying if I was there, I'd be sleeping in the office. That's what he telling me.
Joe Hayden
That's what I gotta get.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
You gotta find out who hired him, Joe.
Joe Hayden
That's no for sure. That's what I mean. I'm. I'm. I'm hit. Andrew. I'm hitting Andrew Barrett.
James 'Deebo' Harrison
I gotta hit him up.
Joe Hayden
I have to.
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Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Date: May 4, 2026
Special Guests: James 'Deebo' Harrison & Joe Haden
This milestone 100th episode of Nightcap—hosted by NFL legends Shannon Sharpe (Unc) and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson with guests James 'Deebo' Harrison and Joe Haden—delivers trademark unfiltered, late-night sports talk with a focus on the latest NFL and NBA headlines. Centering around hard-hitting discussions about rookie jersey sales, the intricate drama of NFL management, quarterback competitions, and signature athlete pregame rituals, the episode is full of playful banter, sharp insights, and authentic locker room storytelling.
(Content begins at approximately [04:32])
[04:32–09:42]
Celebrating the Cavs: Joe Haden beams about the Cavaliers’ Game 7 victory, teasing Deebo and bantering about Cleveland loyalty.
Jared Allen's Old-School Swagger:
Discussion on Cavs’ Jared Allen, known for wearing the same shoes all season—a quirky type of basketball superstition.
[10:22–16:28]
Steelers’ Drew Aller Jersey Hype:
Debate why certain rookie QBs like Drew Aller (Steelers) and Mendoza (Las Vegas) rank atop jersey sales.
Factors Influencing Jersey Sales:
Conversation on the dual importance of player hype and passionate fanbases. Cowboys fans take particular heat:
Comparison with Past Rookies:
Reference to Kenny Pickett’s sales in 2022 and the unpredictability of fan-driven hype.
[21:44–31:48]
Viral Athlete Meals:
Wacky story of offensive lineman Jennings Dunker’s infamous pregame feasting, showing the lengths players go to maintain size and superstition:
Deebo & Joe’s Own Rituals:
Both recount their more humble, pasta-based pregame preferences:
Jets Pizza Shout-Out:
Deebo name-drops Detroit favorite Jets Pizza and its “Turbo Crust”—proof old athlete habits die hard:
[32:00–36:54]
Todd Monken's Vague QB Timetable:
QB Practice Rep Swaps:
Joe defends the process, explaining frequent rep switches as part of healthy competition:
Reporter Critique:
Joe shrugs off sportswriter Mary Kay and the “noise” around rep counts, questioning media awards and accuracy. [40:11–40:51]
[41:00–52:17]
The Browns’ Puzzling Consultant Hire:
Heated debate erupts over Cleveland hiring Trent Baalke—crediting his history of poor GM results, firings, and organizational turmoil:
Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen:
Both agree on the dangers of over-managing and unnecessary consultants:
Owner Insecurity & “Spy” Theory:
Deebo theorizes ownership paranoia or lack of trust:
On Delusional NFL Fans:
Banter About Age & Birthdays:
On Athlete Food Rituals:
Quarterback Competition Reality Check:
Unfiltered, humorous, and conversational with lively back-and-forth, this episode is punctuated by locker-room storytelling, athlete-perspective analysis, and a shared sense of history and rivalry. The hosts hold nothing back in challenging one another and popular sports narratives.
Summary prepared for listeners seeking all the relevant sports talk & personality from Nightcap Episode 100 (Part 1)—without the ads, intro, or outro.