Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers Schedule Release + TJ Watt Trade Rumors

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Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers Schedule Release + TJ Watt Trade Rumors

Hosts: James 'Debo' Harrison & Joe Hayden
Date: May 15, 2026
Theme: Deep-dive into the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 2026 schedule, hot takes on team potential under new coaching, early AFC predictions, and a spirited debate on the TJ Watt trade rumors and Steelers’ defensive roster decisions.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the release of the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 2026 schedule, with Debo and Joe dissecting week-by-week expectations, projecting records, and bringing their signature blend of insider perspective and lively banter. The conversation then transitions to discussing the high-profile TJ Watt trade rumors and what they mean for team culture, cap management, and locker room chemistry. Throughout, the hosts keep the energy high, riffing on fandom, team loyalty, and personal anecdotes that offer rare insight into the mindset of elite NFL veterans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Playoff Banter and Script Theories

• [04:57–11:56]
• Joe is hyped about his Cavs’ performance, pushing for playoff optimism. Debo deflects, half-joking that the NBA feels “scripted” when it doesn’t suit his predictions.
• Lighthearted takes on playoff momentum, Cleveland squad grind, and their difference in rooting interest—most notably Debo ribbing Joe for his steadfast Cleveland support.
• Notable Quote:

  “I'm starting to go with the script stuff, you know, even though I know the script stuff ain't real, when it benefits me to say it's a script, then I'm gonna say it.” — Debo [07:06]

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2. Steelers 2026 Schedule Breakdown — Optimism & Trash Talk

• [12:03–43:43]
• Debo methodically walks through each game of the Steelers’ schedule, brimming with confidence about the new coaching staff and improved defense. Joe challenges some of the optimism, pushing for realism.
• Discussion of key matchups for the first half of the season:
  • Week 1: Atlanta (“getting dubbed”)
  • Week 2: New England (“early litmus test”)
  • Week 3: Division games (“time to start winning division games”)
  • Tough stretch including multiple prime time games.
• Emphasis on the Steelers’ tradition, the culture shift under a new coaching regime, and expectations for defensive improvement (targeting top-10 D).
• Notable Moments:
  • Debo playfully antagonizing Joe about game picks (“The hell with the good ball, Joe, I want to punch you in your face.” [15:49])
  • Stats reminiscing (“I think I only lost to Cleveland like maybe three times in my whole career. Four at the most, like ever in a whole 15, 16 year career.” — Debo [20:36])
  • Paris overseas game and the inevitable “altitude” stories.

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3. Season Predictions – Record, Resting Starters, and Realism

• [24:31–44:43]
• Bold projections from Debo: Steelers may go “7-1 at worst” before the bye, sees 13-4 or 14-3 as realistic finish.
• Joe pushes back (“You’re setting yourself up...for the craziest crash out that I’ve ever seen.” [31:05])
• Both underscore the Steelers’ legacy—“real America’s Team”—with prime time visibility and the test of a new coaching staff following the departure of a decades-long regime.
• Debo on physicality and Steelers’ identity:

  “We about to watch them boys put in work...It’s a way of punishing...And if we don’t win the game, oh, we gonna make sure that your ass is so sore.” [32:17 & 33:08]

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4. Defensive Culture: Intensity, Locker Room, and Defensive Staff

• [39:42–43:43]
• Debate on whether the new staff can reincarnate traditional Steelers ‘physicality’ and dominance.
• Inside anecdotes—Debo’s appreciation for new DC Domata Peko (“I’ve seen him play. I played with him...He ain’t having that.” [40:32])
• Assessment of the challenge of playing in Denver’s altitude and how it affected Debo during his playing days.

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5. Locker Room Dynamics & Roster Management: The TJ Watt/Herbig Situation

• [51:54–73:49]
• Key segment: Debo and Joe go deep on the TJ Watt trade rumors, weighing the practical realities of cap management, player loyalty, team identity, and locker room leadership.
• Joe makes the case for keeping TJ Watt, arguing for intangible value and his role as a “locker room dude.”

  “He’s a staple of the team like a Cam Heyward...Not only off the field, they’re just great dudes that you want to have around.” [53:18]

• Debo shifts to GM mindset—realities of paying three top-dollar linebackers, age, declining production, and the economics of big contracts.

  “Even if it's not $40 million a year, still gonna be at least 20...You can't give top money to three linebackers, brother.” [65:15]

• Discussion of Nick Herbig’s agent positioning for “top money,” the precedent of Highsmith’s contract, and the complexity of keeping so many star defenders under the cap.

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6. Cap Challenges & Ownership Perspective

• [70:36–73:14]
• Debo diagnoses the real problem:

  “We was the highest paid defense last year. Like, where’s all this money coming from, brother?” [70:36]

• Joe’s optimism—"the money gonna be moved around," while Debo is more skeptical about long-term sustainability.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable One-Liners

• “Numbers don’t lie. I can lie...numbers don’t lie.” — Debo [10:00]
• “We ain’t coming out here to play basketball on grass. We kicking your ass.” — Debo [34:32]
• “As long as we out there now, communicating...Jalen Ramsey’s a baller. TJ’s a baller...Our ballers gotta ball.” — Joe [71:58]

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Important Timestamps

• 04:57–11:56 — NBA Playoffs banter & “script” talk
• 12:03–24:31 — Steelers’ schedule walkthrough (games, predictions, storyline games)
• 24:31–44:43 — Season projection debate; Steelers identity & new coaching staff
• 51:54–73:49 — Extended discussion on TJ Watt trade rumors, contract structures, team building philosophy
• 70:36–73:14 — Cap space concerns, potential roster crunch, and long-term strategy

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Tone & Vibe

• Bold, unfiltered, and heavy on playful trash talk
• Deep insider analysis woven with personal stories and legacy reflections
• Humor, genuine love for the game, and high-level football IQ throughout

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Perfect For:

Listeners wanting dynamic, insider breakdowns of the Steelers’ season outlook, candid locker room perspectives, and honest assessment of high-profile NFL roster moves.

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Transcript

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[Joe Hayden]

You already know. Already know. Yeah, got a little bit of that Donovan Mitchell. Got a little bit of that James Harden. You know what it is Debo. You know how I'm feeling. How you doing today Joe? I'm doing jolly, yes I'm doing. Golly did you see my boys though Debo?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I ain't gonna even lie to you I ain't even watching, man. I went to sleep. I was. I was in the bed.

[Joe Hayden]

I know you didn't watch.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You could care less, you know? You know what I'm saying? But if you. You know, I'll go ahead and I'll watch.

[Joe Hayden]

They were up 12 points. I watched.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I watch. I watch today. Tonight. I watch tonight because. Because when I. Because when I do watch, When I

[Joe Hayden]

do watch, I don't want to hear

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

when I do watch.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They put them hands on them boys. You understand me?

[Joe Hayden]

If they would have lost, if they would have lost somehow, you would have seen it. I know, I know.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm just saying I didn't. I'm just. I can't help it. That's just what it was, bro. It ain't. You know, it wasn't meant for me.

[Joe Hayden]

My boys was out there fighting, Debo. My boys out there fighting. They was down by 12 points. 3 minutes left. Down by 11 with like, a nut. Down by 8 with like a minute and 40 left.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, it was like that. So. Oh, so they just came back with time. All right, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Because they ain't want to close. They want to close it out at home. I. I get it. I get it. Makes sense.

[Joe Hayden]

They wanted to.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They want to close it out at home. That's what. That's what's.

[Joe Hayden]

We gonna close them out. We gonna close them out at hours.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, no, no, no, no. They going there. They're gonna win. Then they go. Close it out. Seven at the crib. It makes sense.

[Joe Hayden]

Now, I know you. It's funny, but I know you said.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I mean, you up by that much with that little time left. You want to lose. You want to stretch it out. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

No, you don't tell me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm not saying they wanted to, but you know how these. You the script. You know how the scripts go.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, they better. They better do what they got wrote.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Red. Seven

[Joe Hayden]

red calves and six, seven at the crib. I'm just telling my way.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, man. I'm just telling you. I'm starting to. I'm starting to go with. With the script stuff, you know, Even though I know the script stuff ain't real, when it benefits me to say it's a script, then I'm gonna say it.

[Joe Hayden]

It's a script.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Even though I know it ain't.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay? You know it ain't. You know them boys out there giving their blood, sweat and tears. You know, K wanted to win. You know, he wanted to care.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That is the script that they ran by. And the script said Detroit and seven at home, they want. Because listen, Oklahoma over there, just running through people. They just. They running. They run the trains. So y' all gotta stretch this out over here. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, they need some more games. They need some more TV time.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's what it came down to. You know, ain't no way like you got. You gotta realize.

[Joe Hayden]

You really just thought I needed this. All I need you to do, Debo, just start getting on the cash train. Just get on the cash train. You see what they got going on. You know, I got a good squad. Donovan Mitchell, James Harden, Mobley Strouder. We got ballers over there, and, you know, they're grinders. Go get us. Do you not like Donovan Mitchell's game?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm not saying. I'm not saying that. I. You know, I don't like it.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe, here's the thing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yes, yes, yes. It's. It's not any player on the team that I have a dislike for or I feel any. Any way towards or a certain way about. It's the fact that it's Cleveland and you like them.

[Joe Hayden]

Dang. Okay, okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Look at.

[Joe Hayden]

You know that. Okay, see me, I'm c. I'm calved up because they out there doing what they got to do. They're in the NBA playoffs right now, about to go Eastern Conference finals. I'm hype. You were saying? Oh, yeah, they about to get swept. Good old Cade.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, good old. I wasn't realizing with the script, I didn't know what they was doing over there in the West. I just didn't realize, okay? I ended up. That's why I wasn't watching the game, because I had already read the script.

[Joe Hayden]

You already knew what was gonna happen.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I know what's now. This is when I watch. I read the script. The script say, hey, they go pop them tonight, and then they go get them a seven. They say, yo, we want a repeat of what we had over there. We want that Detroit, New York repeat, that matchup right there. Because that. That bring numbers. That was numbers. You know what I'm saying? Like, Cleveland ain't bringing them numbers. Stop it. We got what they bringing them numbers like that.

[Joe Hayden]

James Harden is there. We definitely bringing numbers.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Mo there, Joe, come on, baby. You know that just don't fit in the script. Come on, man. Come on.

[Joe Hayden]

You telling me they have more star power?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm just telling you what the numbers say. I don't Listen, you lie. I can lie. Numbers don't lie.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, numbers don't lie. All right. Okay. Okay. Got you. We're gonna see tonight, though. Cav's going to the Eastern Conference final

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

with the Cavs on the Eastern Conference final. Cav's about to go. They. They done did all they could do, man. Done hadn't. Amanda. Did all he could do. Hey, listen, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. They did a damn good job, too. They. Hey, they did a good job.

[Joe Hayden]

But thank you. Great job. They ain't done yet.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's it. Hey, listen, man. They did their job as it was wrote down on that script. And I appreciate. I appreciate. I appreciate them for that because it's go. It's gonna look like a. It's gonna be a beautiful thing, man.

[Joe Hayden]

But I just under. I just got in Detroit and they come back and I get it. You're a full blown Cleveland hater. And no matter what happens, you going hope for the worst. I got it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I mean, the worst is not them losing, you know, it's a game, you know? You know, you just.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't want us to win.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You don't want. I just. I mean, I. It could be. Here you go. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

What was up? I go from Easter.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Us.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't. You my dog.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know you understand?

[Joe Hayden]

You are my dog.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know.

[Joe Hayden]

I feel like you're not. You are my dog, bro. You really are.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, you don't. You don't know. I don't know you. You don't know me. I don't know you, man. We just happen to do a show together, bro. Like, you make like. Like it's a thing. Like it, Bruh. Bruh. It's you, then it's me. It's me and it's us in the chat. It's we in the chat, and then it's y' all and you and them, you know,

[Joe Hayden]

I got it. I got. I got you. I got you. I got you.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Hayden]

Understand?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It's gonna release that full. Full schedule.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, that schedule.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Full schedule, brother. Look here, I'm gonna tell you right now. We go. I want to go to each game, bro. Week one. Week one, Atlanta.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Atlanta. Duh.

[Joe Hayden]

Coming out body.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We. We get. We're getting dubbed there. Atlanta. Like, it don't. It don't. It don't really matter, like, who they go put in there. I believe. I Don't know if things gonna be ready, but I think it's gonna be to it. Like, hey, and I really ain't, you know, I really ain't tripping on what they got over there. Yeah. Especially like, I'm looking at just our defense. I'm just looking at our defense, and I understand people. Oh, y' all defense sucked last year. Yeah, defense did suck. Yeah, it was like, what was it, 25, 26, something like that. Office 25. Defense was 26, you know, but we got a whole new staff.

[Joe Hayden]

Whole staff, complete staff.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And I feel like with the talent we have and proper management of the offense, defensive systems, we are going to be able to be at least, I say 15, 15 or better on offense, defense. We get back into the top 10. Defense is going back to the top 10. So that's where I'm going with this off rip for this year, for this season. Next game, off the rip, next game.

[Joe Hayden]

Patriots litness test.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Quick. Quick.

[Joe Hayden]

I think it's gonna be. I think. I think it's a quick test to see where we stand.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Exactly. But that's a win. That's a win.

[Joe Hayden]

First game of the season. Boom. Falcons, second game. Patriots is going to be a real live game. And I'm going to get an early litmus test to see what the defense looks.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Exactly. We're gonna get to see what the defense look like.

[Joe Hayden]

We gonna get to see. Hey, we gonna get to see.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We go B in New England. Okay. And that ain't a bad. Are we going to bad thing. They was what, eight? No. On the road. Five and three at the crib. So that means. Hey, they don't defend the house too much. Hey. And I ain't gonna put it out there. I ain't gonna say nothing. But, hey, they got a little distraction going on over there. You know what I'm saying? They got a little distraction. They got a little distraction going on there. And if need be. If need be. I ain't the type of person that need to do this, but I would do this. Yes, I am. But let me stop lying back then.

[Joe Hayden]

I would listen.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm gonna get messy on the week of the game and I'm gonna start talking and asking questions. I'm gonna get messy. I ain't gonna lie. I need distraction. Whatever. It come to the wind for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

Bulletin board material.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We're looking up everything I need to know. What was your relationship with that woman that. Hey, I ain't. Listen. I'm just saying, man, listen, I'm messing.

[Joe Hayden]

When it Comes, you're gonna need to.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm gonna do.

[Joe Hayden]

When that week. When that week come. We need the locker room to be flustered.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know, man. Listen, man, listen. I'm just saying, brother. I'm just saying.

[Joe Hayden]

That's gonna be. That's gonna be a litmus test, though. That's a good. That's a good thing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Three at the crib.

[Joe Hayden]

It's time to start winning division games.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, and if. If this is. This is when we go. Go ahead and show Joe. You should have came. You should have went up there and talked. You should have went and seen Mr. Brown. That's when it's time. We're gonna have to go ahead and show him. Nephew gonna show you. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Joy Jr. That defense.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And then immediately after that.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Thursday night. Thursday night game. Hey, Cleveland. 8:15. We'll see y'. All. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. It's gonna be some good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, the hell with that. Joe. Who you got, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, it is. There's gonna be some good ball out there.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

God, Joe. The hell with the good ball. Joe, this. I want to punch you in your face.

[Joe Hayden]

It's a lot that we don't know. Look, who gonna be the quarterback for the Steelers? Who gonna be the quarterback for the Browns? Hold up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Let me put my hat for this game for Joe. Let me put my hat on for this game for Joe. This. Joe's hat. I done forgot to get. I done forgot to get Joe's hat here. Yeah, I don't forgot. I forgot to give it. Yeah, I got. I got. I gotta get. I gotta get you your hat. I gotta get you your hat. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I want. I want it to be a football game, Debo. And when. I mean a football game. Offense, defense, special teams, both teams doing at going at it because they're gonna be plays made on both sides. I want to see how it goes when the Browns play this Thursday night game. It's in Cleveland Thursday night. Early.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Early in the year. At the crib.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, I understand what y' all saying. I understand.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

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Definitely going to be in the building for this one. We're going to be on the building.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

When I say we means I can't stop saying we. We is me and you. There's two people that I'm just talking to. It's me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You really. That game is in Cleveland, bro. Yeah, I went. What you mean that game is in Cleveland, bro. You know what?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm going.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm going to go. I'm gonna bring you to the game everybody want to talk about. You guys are. What is it, 16 and 1 in the last eight games in Cleveland. Yeah, that was under different leadership. That was under different schemes and everything else that is about to change. Okay, you know what's so crazy, Joe? I think I only lost to Cleveland like maybe three times in my whole career. Four at the most, like ever in a whole 15, 16 year career. Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I hear you. I hear you. I didn't beat the Steelers too often when I was with the Browns. I did not either. So I understand what you're saying, but it's a different doubt. Look, if with the fifth, we all.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So who we playing in that game?

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. Both of us still don't know. It's still early. We still trying to figure out. I'm hoping that we're going to have Shador as the quarterback for the Browns and then if all is good, Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback for the Steelers. That's what it's looking like. So it looks like it's going to be a Rodgers.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. It don't matter who the quarterback for the Steelers go be. What matters is what my defense is going to be. A Pittsburgh Steelers defense.

[Joe Hayden]

What you think the Brown.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, I don't worry about what the Browns do,

[Joe Hayden]

okay? You tell me what the Browns do

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

against us as a defense. You tell me. How many sacks did Mr. Garrett over there get?

[Joe Hayden]

You keep on talking about Mr. Garrett sacks. He didn't have a sack. Last version.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't want to talk about that game no more. Let's go to the Coats at home. And that's another win.

[Joe Hayden]

I like that. The schedule listen favorable. Go ahead.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Then we pop on down to Tampa Bay. Yep. We chat. We when I say we.

[Joe Hayden]

Not me. Not me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Not you. Ain't hey, I don't know who you is no more. I'm trying to figure you out. I'm about to put you on a lie detector test. And then we're gonna have to put like clamps on you. We have to maybe put some sock therapy on your ass, get you back. Because you don't lost, you know, you don't went so far. I don't know where you at no more. I just don't. I just. Man, I know. I believe, but I don't believe.

[Joe Hayden]

I want to believe, but I know you believe me. No, you know I love what I say is facts.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Here's the problem. I know we your second favorite team. I know.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, but you want to try and

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

lie to me and tell me you're

[Joe Hayden]

still it just by a little teeny bit.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Can't be by a little teeny bit. That's enough. Is that enough to piss you off? Enough to make you won't cut your

[Joe Hayden]

throat a little bit? Not even a lot. Debo, I'm telling you. But I got a pick.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I gotta.

[Joe Hayden]

Just because I was, you know, I was drafted there and it's just. Okay. I'm not gonna explain myself.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, I'm gonna piss you off no more. I'm gonna let.

[Joe Hayden]

I understand this. Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Tampa. Only thing I'm worried about over there. Then I took Danny. They got. They got this special team coordinator. That's the only thing I'm worried about over there. But.

[Joe Hayden]

And they got our boy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But. But I still feel like we gonna go ahead and do that right there. Okay, now here's where it start a little tricky for me. We gotta go all the way to Perry. Perry. We. We. Perry now, Joe, we in Paris.

[Joe Hayden]

We in Paris.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We, we Bon bon in Paris. That's what you know today. Hey, hey.

[Joe Hayden]

That's gonna be you. You never. You never know with them. With them overseas games.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I feel like we're gonna get that work done.

[Joe Hayden]

Look at that work.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Come on back. Come on back immediately. And go ahead and go ahead, get that work done. Against Cleveland. Again. Again. And right into the box. Perfect cut on the buy at week nine. Listen, listen.

[Joe Hayden]

You got. You. You like.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, you. Hey, no, bro. Worst case scenario. Worst case scenario. Worst case. Maybe seven to one. Worst case.

[Joe Hayden]

Worst case scenario.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Seven one, Joe. That's worst case scenario. Then we come back. We come back.

[Joe Hayden]

Wow.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

After the buy, you got Cincinnati, Philly, Denver, Texans, Jaguars.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Baltimore. Yep. Yeah. Carolina, Tennessee, Baltimore. That's why now that. Yeah. This.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. What's up? What you thinking?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What you thinking? Sure. You angleize it?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Right now.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What happens is they said, you know what? Everybody want to see the Steelers. Everybody want to see this?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You know why everybody want to see the Steelers? Because we the real us. Chat we. If you want to be in this one, huh? You want to be in this one now, don't you?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You do.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I'm in it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We there.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We the real. Yeah, real America's team. Okay? We didn't even have to be named the baby. We was giving it to it. We ain't have to take no names.

[Joe Hayden]

We legit.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We. I'm with you understand that now? Yes. You see what happened after week. Yeah. 10. What happened at the weekend, Joe? Monday night. Oh, no, sorry. Sunday night?

[Joe Hayden]

Sunday night, 20 game.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Week 11.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Sunday afternoon, 4:25 game Joe. They said Friday, 3pm Black Friday, they say, put the Steelers in now. They pop right back on Sunday night for 8:20 game Joe to a Monday, 8:15. And then they said, hey, calm down, calm down. We go get y' all one o' clock on Sunday for the 15th for week 15, but it's gonna be with the Raven. Hey, yeah. You know what the NFL looking at? You know what they looking like?

[Joe Hayden]

What they looking like, brother?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They saying, damn, bro. Looking at the schedule, week 10, them boys coming out of the buy, they could be eight, zero, maybe seven to one. And guess what? Nobody really got a chance to watch them. Why? Because most of those Games was at 1:00'.

[Joe Hayden]

Clock. Except for early, except for the Thursday

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

night game with, with some. Yeah, with the Bum Browns.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, not the Bum Browns. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. I'm gonna let you get you, I'm gonna let you get off.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's why, that's why they set this schedule like this. Hey, look here. Them boys, them Steelers,

[Joe Hayden]

you know, you look what you thinking. They go ahead

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

and everybody want to see the Steelers, okay? Now. And on top of that, damn, they got a new coach for the first time in the last 19 season. Only the fourth coach since what, 1969. Along with a whole new staff of assistant coaches to go with. Hey, what, what, what did Tupac say? What did Tupac say? All eyes on me, all eyes on us.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, that's a fact, that's a fact. That's a fact. Everybody want to watch. Everybody gonna see all these prime time games because of eyeballs. Thousand percent. I, I agree with you. I agree with you. What do you think is going to happen? How do you think they're going to act? Because I'm looking at the, the popping off. You say seven and one, Debo. I, I, I gotta, I gotta get in with that what I'm. I don't know if we gonna be 7 and 1.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hold on, hold on. What you. What you trying to. Hold on. What you trying to say? We gonna be six and two.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean six. And you said worst case scenario, seven and one. Yeah, I'm saying worst case scenario going into. Going into the. After the buy first eight games.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Worst case, I'm going to have to go with New England. I don't know. That could be that. That's one that they might. You know what I'm saying? You just can't. You just can't say. We're going to.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Worst case, six and two. What you want? Who you got? Who you got for the third, then where you want to say 5 and 3 or 4 and 4 or something?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm saying I'm going with. I'm going with New England. It's going to be a match, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. I got us getting Cincinnati out the way. Tampa is an option and we play the Browns twice. I mean, I like for the Browns. The Browns might could get one. So I'm saying it could be worst case, five and three.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Stop it, Joe. Off the R. Stop it, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't say that. I love the talk of being right now just going through the whole thing undefeated or 7 and 1. Sounds good, Debo.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Maybe Patriots and Tampa. That's it.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, so you're not. So you saying.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, no, that's not happening no more, bro. That's.

[Joe Hayden]

I say. Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

When that was going on, that whole whole process, that whole thing, team, defense, offense, gone. Every scheme of offense and defense that allowed that to happen over the last eight home games is gone. Get rid of.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay. Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You about to see the players that we said they had a potential to do it. Play to that potential.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, Debo, I'm hearing everything you're saying exactly right. Because we do have the names, we do have the players to do what you're saying to do. But I'm letting you know that you're setting yourself up right now on this pod for the craziest crash out that I've ever seen.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, because, hey, listen, this is what I need we gonna do, man. Hey, hey. I want y' all to go ahead and clip this up, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Please clip this up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay? Keep, keep, keep.

[Joe Hayden]

I believe I. I want us. I want it to happen too, because what you're saying, we do have the names on the defense. New quilt, Everybody. All that. 25th range defense, all that. That's not.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That is not it. That Is not it. That is not happening. It's not going nowhere.

[Joe Hayden]

It's not rocking.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We not rocking on me. All right? That's what he said. Be watching these games. It's gonna be haters, you know, Haters. They want to see us fail. They hoping. Please, please let them lose. Please. They like. They like Samuel L. Jackson and Django. When Jamie Fox shot his ass and that boy said, oh, sweet Jesus, please help me kill this. That's them. Sweet Jesus.

[Joe Hayden]

They want.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They practice, them.

[Joe Hayden]

They're praying on our downfall.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Please let them lose. No, they praying on that phone. The other ones is us. Still this nation. Because we sitting here and we about to watch them boys put in work. We about to watch them show you with them three stars on their chest. Meaning you about to see what still us is not just the name. It's a whole process in a way of winning. It's a way of punishing.

[Joe Hayden]

Look here.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And we don't win the game. Oh, we gonna make sure that your ass is so sore.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, they gonna feel it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You gonna feel all that the next day.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You don't come in and out of a Stiller game and fresh and vibey the next week. Hell, no. Your ass is icing up until Wednesday. I suck up. It ain't the damn thing you could do when the Steelers coming for you. You understand me? I hear you.

[Joe Hayden]

I hear you.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I hear you.

[Joe Hayden]

And you look, this is the thing, Debo. You're not talking crazy because this is facts.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You ask anybody. You ask anybody that played a real life Stillers football team, not just a team that said Steelers, a team that played like Steelers on offense and defense. You're not coming out of that game unscathed, okay? Leaving there with knots and bruises. You leaving there with lumps on your ass and your head and everywhere else on your body. You go realize that you was in a football game. You ain't coming out here to play basketball on grass. We kicking your ass.

[Joe Hayden]

Talk to him, Debo. That one of them. Okay, I. I know, I know, I know. I. I know what type of violence that you're promoting on our defense. I know what you want it to look like.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What you going to do when the Pittsburgh Steelers come for you? I'm with you talking about Day, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me tell you when the last time they done came for you. When the last time the Stiller did that came for you. You know what I'm saying? You out. We out here talking all that. We don't watch the tape.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We just hired Mike McCarthy. You didn't the way he felt. The love, the admiration.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes, yes. The passion. The passion.

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[Joe Hayden]

Passion

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen here, Joe. You can't understand family, what it means to be a Steeler. He's seen the Steel Curtain. He watched him grow up as a kid and say, oh, my God, if I ever got the chance to be part of that. He want to be part of that. He want to have his name. He want to put a Lombardi two or three in there. He want them saying that when Mike McCarthy came back to the Steelers, it was the Pittsburgh Steelers that played still a football. And it wasn't about a fucking logo. Was saying it was the actual proof in the pudding of us punishing people. Yep, yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

What we talking about? We. We.

[Joe Hayden]

We talking about punishing people. That's. That's what we talking about. We talking about passion, man. We're talking about defense. We talking about Steelers.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't even know why I got so like, damn, Joe, we ain't even

[Joe Hayden]

started playing the game yet, man. That's what I'm trying to prepare you because they got you. Listen, you not hitting nobody else. I hear you, and I love you, and I know if you could, you would. But when they go out there, we want that Steelers defense out there. I. We got to see it. Because if you come in here and we see people running through it and. And the lineman getting pushed backwards to

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

the line back, that shit ain't happening. That's not happening. I'm to the cake right now. That's not happening. Domino Pekka. Domino. Domino Domin. You know a peco.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He ain't having that. Yeah. Grab grass. I know him. I've seen him play. I played with him.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, he ain't doing that. Ain't allowing that.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, I'm with. Okay. I.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You.

[Joe Hayden]

I. I hope he's gonna be teaching them that. And, you know, they. I could tell him to go jump the slant on the three step and out there start acting silly and get the panic.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, listen, bruh. It's being. It's work being put in around there.

[Joe Hayden]

That's just.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay. Put in right there. You understand me?

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, yes. Yes, I understand you. So let. What are you thinking about the rest of the. Once they come out of the box? Because you had it. Worst case, 6 and 2.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Worst case, 6 and 2.4k.

[Joe Hayden]

6 and 2 during the first.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Boom.

[Joe Hayden]

Bye week. Week. Nine. Bam. Now we coming out to buy week.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, I'll lie to you, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. I just. I just. I just can't see us. I just. I just can't see us losing a Monday night game. I can't. I can't see us losing a eight. I can't see us losing an eight game. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right. A real talk. Them boys got me a little. They got me a little gunshot over there, though.

[Joe Hayden]

Who?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Houston.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They coming back here. They coming back here again.

[Joe Hayden]

What about Denver?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But we got a whole new staff. Listen, man, if y' all let Houston do anything close to what the hell they did to us in them last five minutes, man, drop down your nuts, stick your foot into the ground. Better be like Friday the 13th for they ass and Jason chasing them. When we. Jason, we.

[Joe Hayden]

Jason, we not running. We not tripping over stuff. Oh, we the one doing the chasing. Okay, but you know, Houston got. They bringing them boys out there, too. Goddamn. So I feel you people listen when they come.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They still got Justin Field. They still got your boy. What's his name? Yeah, man, cj. They still got CJ Stroud over there. Now, look, he. I know that.

[Joe Hayden]

There you go disrespecting my dog. He's playing. Well, he's playing because he got something. He got things to prove. He got things.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

All right, man, look here, man. We get to the end of the season, I'm looking at. We probably won't. Yeah, that's the last game.

[Joe Hayden]

Crazy 18. But the water. We really.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know, we might be resting. So. I mean, we could. We could be looking at.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Shut your.

[Joe Hayden]

You talking about rest?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You could be resting for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

We're not resting. No.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, what is you talking about, bro? Like, after the. After. After. After we pop. After we pop.

[Joe Hayden]

I.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We popped them on. On December 20th. Baltimore and then the Panthers and then Tennessee. Like, what is we talking about? We resting. We, we done won the north. We probably, we probably sitting there fighting for one and getting, trying to fight for the buy. Like maybe, Maybe, Maybe. What is it? Maybe, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Maybe, maybe 14 minutes. Listen, Joe. Maybe 14 and three. 13, 13 and four at worst.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's what I'm saying, Joe. I'm just telling you, you are a conf.

[Joe Hayden]

I love it because you, this is best, this is, this is all best case scenarios. Obviously, that's what we're hoping for. That's what we're rooting for. You know what I'm saying? I wanna, we got.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Don't understand what you're saying. But like, that's, that's like my worst case scenario. Like, we may have to play, so.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Because we second in the afc.

[Joe Hayden]

He see this one? I'm okay.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Who you got above us in the afc? Who, Papa, Please tell me who.

[Joe Hayden]

I have Denver. I have New England. Those are just Moses. Those are the two that I have. No, just, just because of what, Just because of what my eye test tells me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm going. I'm going. Listen, they can do whatever it is they do. We get to play New England, we win that tiebreaker, us, boom, we play Denver.

[Joe Hayden]

Those are games that you.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Us. Like I said, worst case too, in the afc. Worst case, we ain't got to go to Denver. I don't even like that air over there in Denver, man. Man, every time I came home from Denver, man, I played the game, bro. I was over there. I was over there pissing blood. Every time I got, bro, this was terrible.

[Joe Hayden]

Them boys, them boys over there was nice.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, it wasn't nothing to do with nice, bro. That error just, I was, man, I thought I had sickle cell trait or something, bro. I was out. That motherfucker feeling bad.

[Joe Hayden]

And you got good win too, so that's crazy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I, I, but listen, I, I don't get along with air like that. I took my son, he had to do thoracic surgery on his sc.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't get along with air like that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It don't. Bro, I was, I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air. I was in Aspen. Or was it Vale Vail, Colorado, bro. It's higher than Denver. I was in, I was over there gasping for air, bro. Waking up in the middle of the night like five, six times, bro. Like, I'm like, yo, I gotta get up, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Gotta get a damn. So you need to was like a sleep.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, bro, I couldn't breathe. The air was. It's just breathing, bro. We. When we went to Mexico City, bro, The same thing, bruh. Mexico City is stupid high. And then we was, like, staying on, like, the 15th floor, bruh. The out, bruh. I woke up. I got up in the morning. I'm like, yo, man. I'm like, yo, did anybody else not be able to sleep and just waking up gasping for every. Like, hell yeah. That's when we found out it was, like, super high there, bro. Like, it's. Me and altitude. We don't mix.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't work together. Okay. No, I got you.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, you got. I just don't get along with air like that. Like, my lungs do.

[Joe Hayden]

You keep. And that. That. You keep saying I don't get along.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't get along with that air, bro. That air.

[Joe Hayden]

That.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Whatever that air is, it's missing something. It's missing something that my air here don't. It's missing something that my air here has. And I don't.

[Joe Hayden]

That you needed.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't know what the hell it is, bro, but I'm gonna tell y' all right now, that altitude, that high stuff. That stuff matter, bro. Yeah, for sure. That's real.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know if, in effect, it affects certain people, because I was out there. I didn't. I didn't feel. I didn't feel it. I've been to Veil. I played in Denver. I didn't feel it, but some of my teammates felt it. So. I know you, Ryan Clark, having a sickle cell.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I had a sickle cell. I thought I did.

[Joe Hayden]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm like, something gotta happen. I never played in Denver and not come home pissing blood.

[Joe Hayden]

That's crazy. Yeah. I don't. I don't. I don't know what that symptom is, bruh.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

My body is fighting like hell. Like, it's leaking protein everywhere. That's like, what the. You know, the blood thing is and all that, dude, it's, like, crazy.

[Joe Hayden]

All these. All these good doctors. You got all this and don't nobody know what's wrong.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I got. I got. I got doctors and that.

[Joe Hayden]

You.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They know what's going on, but it's like, basically, it's over. Exertion. They said, okay, okay. I'm not getting, I guess, either enough oxygen or whatever it is through the air to pick up from, you know, whatever I got going on in my body is like, you know, you gotta realize something. There's a lot of muscle here that, you know, need Oxygen. Then you gonna go. And you go, going, short the oxygen on this, Joe. You can't short oxygen on that.

[Joe Hayden]

How you. How your biceps gonna blow up?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay, bro? That need oxygen, bro. Like, I'm in here right now, and I. You know, I ain't supposed to tell nobody this, but I run oxygen in my house, you know what I'm saying? Just because I got so much muscle, you know what I'm saying? Giant tanks, about 10ft tall, maybe eight,

[Joe Hayden]

you know, they'd be running, you know, oxygen.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm running oxygen.

[Joe Hayden]

But you'll be lying. I thought you were telling.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I know you would have believed it. So I know I had to tell you. I was. I was like this. I was like, damn. Because I do got. I do got a couple little tanks. But they. You know, that's.

[Joe Hayden]

That ain't for that, though, because I know. I know a fact. They be running oxygen through the casinos to keep people awake. That's.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

See, I can't. I can't. I can't go to the casino because I know, Joe, me in the casino, don't be a friend. You know why we ain't friends, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I do a casino like that, I. I try to stay away.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Me and this casino ain't friends because I'm one of them dummies that go in there and say, I'm gonna break the casino. Oh, man, listen, I'm.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm so stubborn. I could. I could probably get up by 4,5 million and not stop because I feel like I could break them to where they ain't gonna have enough money to pay me.

[Joe Hayden]

That's. Yeah, Debo, you going there.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You doing it with the wrong like that, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Smart man. Smart man. Smart man. Yeah. If you can't get out. If you can't get out, get. Don't do it, bruh.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

When I'm in Vegas, bruh, I'm. I'm eating all the steaks I can get to. I got. I got a little bit of family out there. I see. I see my little nephew and all that, you know, his fam. But other than that, bruh, I' ma hit the steakhouses. Wherever y' all say the good steak at, I'm gonna go ahead. That's gonna be my thing. That's how I'm a gamble.

[Joe Hayden]

No, for sure, I'm a waste. Good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm gonna waste good money on good food, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Ain't that. Yes, a thousand percent. You got to go out there, eat good, eat good, go to a good show.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

Good to go.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie. I never been to a show, though.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, man, I've been to a couple of shows. Me and my lady, we go out that thing, go get some food. Go to. Go to a. Go to a show. And especially not a severe. The sphere, whatever that little joint is, the ball. They got fire shows in there. So. Yeah, go in that. If you go to Vegas, go to show us fear fire.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

See, I don't do the shows. I never did the show. That's the thing, too. I only been to Vegas, like maybe two or three times. That. And I'm. And I'm like, you know me. I'm. If, you know, I can't. I can't really get the kind of gym that I want or I don't know where it's at. You know what I'm saying? Because I just, like, I'm in and out. I'm like. I'm like, two days in and out.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, no, that's. That's all you need. That's all you need. You don't gotta stay long.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah. Like, I'm like, dude, I can't. I can't. I can't get to the gym. Like, I can't. You know, I'm gonna get you some.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm get you a nice gym and the five steakhouses.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's it. That's all I need. That's all I need.

[Joe Hayden]

That's all.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's all I need, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

That's all I need.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

The Steelers brother predicted to trade TJ Watt to ensure Nick Herbic's extension. Joe, I don't know about that one. What do you think? What do you think of that Possibilities of them Stillers trading TJ to ensure Herbie.

[Joe Hayden]

What do you think, Joe, with the Pittsburgh Steelers specifically? I wouldn't think that this is going to happen. For one thing, the loyalty that they have to their great players. I mean, I think from the beginning, and T.J. watt is one of those guys, he's been balling for a while. I think coming up on this year, there's certain times where you gotta end up, you gotta hoop, you know what I'm saying? He's been balling his whole career. Some years he finally got injured, had a down year. And then when the money is what the money is, people are always instantly like, what can we go get for this dude? Is, he's getting older in his career. But for me, when I look at dudes like TJ Watt, it just speaks to locker room. It speaks to. This is the kind of guy that you want on your team. His contract is because he's been to so many Pro Bowls. He's. His contract is what it is because of what he's done. It's not like we're overpaying the guy. Dudes now are making $40 million a year where now he's making that $32 million for the next two seasons. It's not like he's out kicked the market market. New DNS are coming in making more money.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He's still hitting the cap for 42 though. So you might as well say it's 42.

[Joe Hayden]

I hear you. Okay. The capital 42. But I'm saying if you have great players, that's what great players do. Like they going to make the highest of the market. So I understand when you got dudes on your team for a longer time, you start getting used to that. If I'm the Steelers and I know I want him on my team, it's a locker room dude. He was drafted here. He hasn't done anything wrong. He's just. He's a staple of the team like a Cam Hayward. The same way when you had those ballers, you had those dudes that continue to perform are great. Locker room dudes are not getting in the way. Their contracts are what it is because of their consistent play. Not only off the field, they're just great dudes that you want to have around. I don't think TJ is one of those dudes. You just get rid of them.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Reason there's no crazy stuff going on. So I think there's always, you know, it's good problems to have when you have the Joey Porter juniors coming up that you know you got to pay. When you have the Nick Herbics when you did draft. Well, we have like we have Highsmith is there also I looking at there's a way that we can figure something.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, I don't think it's a way that we can figure that out. I would I hate you want to get so you put your GM hat on. Joe, you're speaking as a fan. Put your GM hat on.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You got you a new head coach. DJ Y.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what? Matter of fact, let me finish my piece. You said the one thing that makes the most sense too. When the new coach comes in and then he didn't sign that deal. And TJY is all good for everybody else. Cam the older guys that were there for the other regimes. That is also a really, really, really good point because when the new code they don't owe Nobody nothing they like. I can go do some new that

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[Joe Hayden]

cap we can go make some moves. Love TJ, love what he's done but he is getting older. You make a great point on that side when you do put it into new coaches and stuff coming in. So yeah, go ahead.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I put my GM hat on and I don't see it happening because of the cap hit of 42 million and his his sack numbers from last season. Now 2024 he had I believe 11 and a half. That's a good year. 25 it was 7. He missed the games because of injuries, all that. Okay, 24 was a good year numbers wise. But when you're being paid top money, fans expect top numbers. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And last year he was down. Now I feel he is worth the money because I can see and understand his impact as he, you know, a player that's, you know, not just by the numbers but his impact of what he does just from being on the field. The opportunities that it opens up for other guys when TJ has two guys assigned to him, you know every snack. So that gives other guys more opportunities. Yes. To have the one on ones and go and be able to make plays. Now again he's getting chipped too. What does that do? So he's getting heat, sometimes he's getting doubled and he's getting chipped. So now not only are they taking two now. Exactly. Now they're slowing a guy down from being able to get out into his route. And if the quarterback ends up needing to use that guy, he's going to have to wait a snap longer or a hair longer for that guy to get open because he has to bump and chip TJ on his way out, which means, again, it's going to give other players more time to get to that side. So I understand all that, but the biggest issue is, again, why I don't see it happening is that it's not going to be another team out there that's going to make this trade and then try to reason and explain to fans that the 42 million dollar hit is worth what they're looking at, which would only be seven sacks from last year. Okay, yeah, no, he's not gonna be able to sit there and, and be able to understand or explain, you know, the intangible values of the things that, you know, he could bring because, you know, of who he is and, and what that would mean to offenses. You know, the same way Cincinnati, Cincinnati just picked up Dexter Lawrence had a half sec. I can't understand it, but yeah, yeah, yeah, they can. I, I've never really watched, you know him like that, but I'm looking at half sack and I'm like, whoa. You'll be thinking, you see what I'm saying? Like, and yeah, you'll be thinking that

[Joe Hayden]

he's plugging up stuff, he's giving other people opportunities, something like that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But again, am I giving up a first to, to, to plug up stuff for a guy who I seen had 11 something sacks, whatever before that or whatever it was. And then like, I'm not, I don't, I'm. If I know what's going on. But from the outside, as they would have to explain to all these fans and people who are going to be, you know, raising their voice. That's not, that's not something they're going to be able to be like, oh, yeah, but it's because it's. No, they want to look and say, oh my goodness, we're getting a guy that had 20 sacks. We're getting a guy that had 18 sacks. We're getting a guy, that had 17 sacks. You know what I'm saying? That's. That's what they want to look for. And you know, another thing is, dude, it's heavenly dependent on how it is they see Nick Herbic, and if they see him, like, as the future of being, you know, one of their outside guys, because his agent has already said he sees him as one of the top.

[Joe Hayden]

Top.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That means you're going to have to pay him top money. He's not going to take anything less. And we cannot give top money to three. Three linebackers, brother. So if they know that or don't know, whatever that process is, if they know and it's like, yo, he's going to be that and they give him top money, then something has to be done. And if a trade is possible, like, say a trade became possible, and, you know, it's on the table and it's a team that's ready to trade for tj, then I'm. I'm gonna be honest. As a gm, you would have to sit there and be like, yo, let me listen to at least what they're saying to investigate the possibilities of it, because, hell, you got a whole new staff. You got new offense, you got new defense, new coordinators. You got. You. You got. You got new everything. And now, you know, T.J. is, what, 32, 33, something like that? I don't know. And. And you're talking, you know, being attached to another. What is it? I think it's two years. It would be two. Two years. Yeah. So it'll be two years each at 32 or 42. 32 a year, 42 to the cap. And then I. I believe Highsmith is a little younger. I think he has a couple years left. And if that's the case, like, what are they looking at for future? Like, we got to start getting younger at some point. So if Sawyer is.

[Joe Hayden]

Is.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Is the guy that's after that, like, is it now, you know, Herbic, that's coming with Sawyer being the thing with Highsmith standing there and then transitioning through, like, and, you know, picking up somebody in the draft later, you know, next year or however that process would be, like, you know, if it's me, like, right now, I just. I have to make a option or I have to make a decision, because Nick Herbic is not going to sign a contract that is not top dollar. His agent has made that. His agent has made that very clear.

[Joe Hayden]

So we got to figure out what the top dollar is, because this is it. $40 million.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You got to understand something. Even if it's not $40 million a year, still gonna be at least 20.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, but are you talking about you

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

can pay 20, 40 and 20, they go 80 for three players.

[Joe Hayden]

It's more of a. No, I'm not saying all three. I'm saying I'm not moving tj. I'm thinking more of this is a Highsmith, right?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's what I'm saying. So it comes down to. I'm saying if somebody were to come into the situation and say, hey, we want tj, we want to trade for him now, it would be more of a situation of, okay, what do we get for him? Yeah. Versus.

[Joe Hayden]

I would have to see what the,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

you know, the other way, I think is easier because it's a smaller number and it's, it's still a very good player. So the numbers of the money and the numbers of the play are very, you know, they, they coordinate a whole lot better than what people would be looking at versus TJ's and his number. You see what I'm saying? I hear what his.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. I hear what his agent is talking about Herbic's, because I'm looking at it like. Do you think he's saying he's trying to go get one of the highest deals high Smith.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm not saying he's trying to, like, get the highest deal, but he's saying

[Joe Hayden]

that his top, top three up there, just up there in, in a. In a good, good deal. All I'm saying is what is he comparing a good deal to being in a situation of not leaving Pittsburgh. I'm thinking if it's Herbie, listen, not.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

This is where your agent plays the bad guy.

[Joe Hayden]

Not, I'm saying, not like Highsmith's deal. But at the same time, when Highsmith signed his contract, that was a pretty good deal. It wasn't the top of the, of the outside linebackers, but it was a solid number. He's like, he's going to stay in Pittsburgh, be able to get a nice deal. He's making 17. It was $17 a year.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And when was that?

[Joe Hayden]

And probably three years ago.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So now. So even if he was to pay now, that take something close to that, we're looking at what at least 23 is.

[Joe Hayden]

Around 23. You know what I'm saying? But that's what I'm saying. I'm not, I'm not mad at Herbert. Herbie making the 20, trying to get the 23. Where the, the highest paid guys is, is 40 is what Watts making. And I like Watt. He's going to. I think Watt's going to stay. I don't think we should move Watt. I think Watts going to. He's healed up. He's going to come out there and perform and everything that he does is more than what just trying to trade him and I don't think we'll get the value from other teams that will be good enough for TJ Watt. He's good enough. I love him. I think he can help us out. When I'm looking at Herbic, I understand what his agents trying to get in that bag. Highest numbers around 40 I'm looking at. Is it going to be more like the highsmith year where say at 23 now at the market?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Honestly, honestly, if I'm his agent, I've seen two things that are, are very, very, very, very good and if you have the opportunity, as his agent said, to be a full time starter. Oh, it's, it's no real, real limit to, to how much better of a player and how much more he can improve. So for me, bruh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not letting him sign nothing that ain't at least giving him 50 guaranteed in the first two years. Yeah, that's minimum. That's minimum. Now if you the GM and I'm saying I ain't letting him sign Nothing less than 50 guaranteed in the first two years with I'm, I'm gonna do something else on the back end that's gonna be like, okay, it's 50 guaranteed in the first two years and, and after that second year come, you know, the first week of what's the name, his you know, third year is guaranteed if he's still on the roster. So basically I'm guaranteeing this first three, so basically 75.

[Joe Hayden]

So basically though the on this for the steelers that'd be a 2 for 50 because then you can keep it if you don't want to do anything after you can let him slide or he could be able to be a free agent or.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Well also I would make the number higher after because I'm expecting my player to get better and better to where like okay guys are now making 50 and I'm gonna make his number to like 32, 35. Yeah, okay, like you gotta sign this

[Joe Hayden]

whole deal four year for 120 with 50 guaranteed in the first. So that's why the first two years would be the 50 and then the next two could average out to around, you know, I'm saying 30 a year.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It's just all dependent on, you know, like, because you got to realize like he goes into this year and they make him play any part of this year, bruh, before he signs a deal. Or they get him a deal and he continues to play and play well, that number's just going to keep going up

[Joe Hayden]

and he'll be unrestricted.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Unrestricted?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. They have to do something. They got before, you know, like a

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

bird in the hand, dude. Like, I know what I have here. Like I know what I have here. I know what I. What kind of player he is.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, we gonna see what them did. What the what While training camp is happening. I know it's going to be my main two players is looking at little nephew and Herb to see what to get those extensions for sure.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But my, my thing right now too is though you still got to get nephew gotta get Herbic. We was the highest paid defense last year. Like, where's. Where all this money coming from, brother?

[Joe Hayden]

Don't. Oh my. I'm telling you, the money, they gonna move.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You can move it around all you want to, bro. Like, you can't, you can't create more of it though. Telling you like that's gonna be, that's, that's, that's gonna be. That's gonna be hard work. And you know, look at it like it's. I think like 42. TJ. I think Smith is like 1718. I think what's his name, the other linebacker inside. I think he likes 1718. I think Cam is another 1718. Like, you know, cab ain't number like three and some change, bro. They go 100 something.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And five. Then the offense, you go to the offensive side. What is it?

[Joe Hayden]

Dk. Dk.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Pittman and Friarmouth. I think his number's up there. Yeah, like Boss just got, got a little. Boss has got him a little grip too.

[Joe Hayden]

They don't. Debo, I'm trying to tell you, don't worry about. Just get as many good players as you can. I'm telling you, they gonna be able to pay for it. They gonna make it happen. Money gonna be moved around. Some people gonna get stuff, guaranteed. Some people gonna get smooth. Assigning bonus. Jalen Ramsey could call. He got the bag out there too. Deservingly. So keep Jalen. Don't move. Love him back there for the secondary. Communicating. And he's a baller like you said. Debo, our ballers got a ball. So I'm not wanting to move around trading none of these dudes. Oh, no. Oh, long on the tooth. I don't give a damn. Long on the tooth. These dudes can hoop. They can as long as we out there now. Communicating. Jalen Ramsey's a baller. TJ's a baller, we're going to get them out there and now we going to evaluate. So we're just trying to talk the numbers wise about crunching it. But our thing is if we can, we don't want to have to get rid of talent. But when dudes are balling like this and Herb talking about trying to get 30 a year deservingly so from your age and everything, but we got to fit that all in the puzzle piece of the Steelers defense and keeping everything.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It ain't about him making that fit into the puzzle piece. It's about him getting as much as he can.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no. I'm talking about as an owner.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I mean, but that's what I'm saying,

[Joe Hayden]

like trying to get the piece of

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

all you want, man. You know the reality of what it is, bro, when you start talking, you know what I'm saying? That's why sometimes you can't keep some people because of where you at and where they could actually be at if they were given a full opportunity. Like it's no way. I just don't, I just don't. I don't. I don't see it happening where he would even advise him to take something that's not starter pay.

[Joe Hayden]

No.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

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