Deebo & Joe - Part 1: What's Going on With Aaron Rodgers? + Josh Cribbs joins!

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 1: What's Going on With Aaron Rodgers? + Josh Cribbs joins!
Date: May 11, 2026
Hosts: James “Deebo” Harrison & Joe Hayden
Special Guest: Joshua Cribbs

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Deebo and Joe offer their trademark unfiltered takes on a wild mix of NFL and NBA news, dive deep into the Aaron Rodgers/Steelers rumors, and break down the Cleveland Browns’ rookie quarterback situation. NFL legend and kick return icon Joshua Cribbs joins the show for an impromptu, hilarious, and heartfelt conversation about his career, lessons from the game, and, of course, wild college football stories with Deebo.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Jersey-Fandom Superstition

Timestamps: 04:25-12:05

• Deebo and Joe debate the supposed "jersey curse," with Joe poking fun at Deebo for wearing Cleveland or LA gear on game days—and those teams then losing.
• Deebo: “I just be wearing jerseys, Joe. You know what I'm saying?” (05:43)
• Joe insists that whatever jersey Deebo wears, that team loses, almost superstitiously.
• Playful banter as they joke about influencing the outcome of games and antagonize each other about switching teams and clothing choices.
• Joe teases Deebo for not believing the "curse," and Deebo finally goes, “If that’s the case, then I’ll really start paying attention to what I wear” (11:04).

Notable Quotes:

• Joe: “Every time you were Cleveland, they lost. Every time you were L.A., they lost. I’m just saying.” (06:43)
• Deebo: “You want to call your boy a liar just so you don’t feel guilty about you giving your team all this voodoo.” (09:34)

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2. What's Going On With Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers?

Timestamps: 12:09-24:57

• Aaron Rodgers speculation: The hosts tackle rumors about Aaron Rodgers possibly joining or meeting with the Steelers, questioning the sources and the substance of the reporting.
• Deebo: “That right there, Joe, that don’t sound like concern to me. ... Do that sound like concern? I don’t hear concern.” (13:15)
• Both express skepticism regarding media reports, emphasizing that only direct statements from the team or Rodgers’ mouth count as credible.
• Deebo draws on last year's example, reminding listeners Rodgers didn’t sign until June 5th.
• Joe’s “trust test” theory: Joe suggests misinformation may have been intentionally leaked by the team to smoke out leaks in the organization or media circles.
• Deebo echoes: “You want to find out who's the rat in the house. You give out some information and see if that [comes] back to you.” (23:32)

Notable Quotes:

• Deebo: “A Rod don’t give a damn about none of that. ... But if you’re trying to depend on Aaron Rodgers’ schedule ... last year’s evidence he didn’t sign.” (13:35)
• Joe: “Somebody got smoked out, Joe. And they don’t even know they got smoked.” (25:00)
• Joshua Cribbs (chiming in): “Be more careful.” (25:08)

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3. Cleveland Browns’ Rookie Quarterback Speculation

Timestamps: 25:13-34:24

• Browns’ rookie minicamp questions: Is the team tipping their hand about Taylor Green’s future?
• Deebo and Joe dismiss local media drama, emphasizing that playing rookies in camp is normal and not a sign of special plans.
• Deebo: “Having talent at the quarterback is not a problem.... If we do have a situation where we do have Deshaun Watson, I believe in Shador Sanders, and Taylor Green is a young prospect...”
• Joe calls it “smart coaching” to let opponents worry about all potential weapons, not a mistake.
• Brown’s issues have bred local media “drama,” but the real solution is winning. Consistent victory, the hosts agree, will quiet unnecessary speculation.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe: “What he’s doing right now is... already, especially game one, creating more work for D coordinators.” (30:46)
• Deebo: “We got two quarterbacks... fighting. And now we drafted another guy that could potentially, if these other guys don’t work, he could be successful. So it’s not a bad place to be in.” (31:01)

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4. Browns’ Roster Strengths and Challenges

Timestamps: 34:24-39:41

• Debate about the state of Browns’ O-line, special teams, defense
• Joe jokes about the Browns only recently getting a true starting five on the offensive line.
• Deebo is optimistic after recent drafts, noting that not all high picks work out, but the Browns are moving in the right direction.
• Light ribbing about both teams missing on draft picks and struggling to “hit” on receivers.

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5. Special Guest: Joshua Cribbs Joins

Timestamps: 40:25-53:11

• Josh Cribbs introduction: Joe provides an epic stats rundown and career highlights; Cribbs joins to warm applause.
• Cribbs is now coaching special teams at his alma mater, Kent State, and reflects on what coaching and staying close to football means to him.
• Cribbs on “why coach?”— “This was the most logical step for me to hold onto that edge to that… all-purpose football mentality that I still possessed.” (43:06)
• Childhood and rediscovering love for football: Cribbs describes how, after tough seasons with the Browns, watching young kids play helped him “rededicate” himself to the game.
• Quote: “How would you like to make millions of dollars to go to recess?... That’s how I had to rededicate myself... whether we winning or losing.” (45:40)
• Legendary Kent State stories: Cribbs and Deebo reminisce about Deebo’s reputation for being intimidating in college, even among his own teammates.
  • Cribbs describes his red-jersey “protection” in practice, only to have Deebo ignore it and thump him anyway—drawing laughs all around.
  • “He’s not making this up, bro,” Joe cracks, as Cribbs details getting hit in 7-on-7 drills with supposedly “no contact” rules.
  • “The way he was hitting me in practice… they would suspend him in the NFL for hitting a QB like that.” (51:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe, on Deebo’s superstitious team-wear:
  “I’m just testing the theory out, all right? And it’s been 100% so far.” (07:50)
• Deebo, on Aaron Rodgers rumors:
  “You don't know. Nobody knows. ... Last year A Rod didn't sign until June 5th. ... So June 5th is when he signed last year. All these other predates, I'm looking at people like why you keep thinking or expecting him to sign before understanding we got a new coach, all that. A Rod don't give a damn about none of that.” (13:35)
• Joe, on trust:
  “You want to find out who's the rat in the house. You give out some information and see if that back to you.” (23:32)
• Joshua Cribbs, on rediscovering purpose:
  “I had to think back to when I was playing every day at recess... If y’all don’t know… I’m like, how would you like to make millions of dollars to go to recess?... That’s how I had to rededicate myself and look at the sport, whether we winning or losing.” (45:40)
• Joshua Cribbs, on Deebo at Kent State:
  “I couldn’t just come to him by myself. It had to be a qualifier ... Stay on his good side, you be good.” (46:56)
  “The way he was hitting me in practice… they would suspend him in the NFL!” (51:13)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------|------------| | Banter about NBA superstitions & jerseys | 04:25-12:05| | Aaron Rodgers/Steelers rumor breakdown | 12:09-24:57| | Browns’ rookie QB controversy & media takes | 25:13-34:24| | Browns roster/depth chart talk | 34:24-39:41| | Joshua Cribbs joins – Career, brotherhood, laughs | 40:25-53:11|

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends classic Nightcap vibes: razor-sharp NFL insight, candid takes on player-team dynamics, and hilarious storytelling from football’s inner sanctum. Joe and Deebo’s chemistry is as playful as ever, and Joshua Cribbs’ appearance brings depth, nostalgia, and plenty of big laughs. Whether discussing Aaron Rodgers’ moves, the state of the Browns, or wild days at Kent State, the conversation is unfiltered, knowledgeable, and supremely entertaining.

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For fans of real football talk and stories that go beyond the headlines, this is a can’t-miss Nightcap.

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm doing great today, brother Debo. Doing great.

[Joe Hayden]

You know why?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Do you know why? Why? Because what I told you what was gonna happen happened. I told you my Cavs was gonna go handle business. Detroit did what they had to do. They protect the home court. Cavs protect the home court. You saw what happened. And now Monday again today, game tonight, we're gonna handle our home court again and it's gonna be two to two now. It's right back, back to even surfaces. Now we need to get and steal one in Detroit. That's how it gets. You need to steal home court. We need to go get one from their crib.

[Joe Hayden]

So yes, I kind of, you know, forgive me for, you know, doing, doing this or going back and like kind of looking at, you know, looking at this, I'm kind of, I don't know, I'll just say this What? Last time you wore something that was la and LA just got popped. Before that, you wore something that was Cleveland. Cleveland got popped back to back before that. Now you're wearing something that's Cleveland. And they play tonight.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

And you're gonna be the reason they get popped. See?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, no, Deebo. No, I'm. No, I get popped again, I be switching unit. I'd be switching jerseys. I be switching. I rep sports teams, Joe. You know what I'm saying? I just be wearing jers.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you not forget last show? You switched right before we got on. You switched right before we got on, Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I switched hoodies.

[Joe Hayden]

You had on some Cleveland, but you put on the Laker.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Joe. I don't know.

[Joshua Cribbs]

And they got popped.

[Joe Hayden]

I wish you had kept that Cleveland on because they would have got popped again.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

But didn't. But didn't I tell you my. Honest. Didn't I tell you what I expected to really happen? I said that the Lakers. You know what I'm saying? It was way.

[Joe Hayden]

I think you subconsciously knew in your head that if you kept that Cleveland on, it was gonna be a. It was gonna be trouble. I think. I think you knew it was gonna be trouble, Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, it's on. James Harden, he did what he had to do. He cooked in the fourth. Donovan Mitchell. I was on watching it live.

[Joe Hayden]

Well, I'm just saying, Joe, you got Cleveland on today and they played tonight.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes. And we're gonna win tonight.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, I'm just saying, every time you were Cleveland, they lost. Every time you were la, they lost. I'm just saying.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Whatever.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh. Oh, it's whatever.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't believe just.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm looking back. I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm looking right now. I'm looking back and. And I'm looking like. Yes, that's. Oh, this.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

That's what you really telling me On Friday I wore Lakers

[Joe Hayden]

that hat?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, it was a Lakers, but it was. It was a. It was. It was a jersey, though.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, hey, listen. Don't.

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Don't let me get in your.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, Joe, don't let me get.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Don't get in my head. Don't get my head.

[Joe Hayden]

No.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Just know. I was telling you what. I told you what was supposed to happen. We won like I told you, and we gonna win again and we're gonna be two. Two.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, where my tile at, man? You know, I get. I get fresh from the gym. I gotta.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Come on.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. Hey.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Okay. What's up?

[Joe Hayden]

About to get popped Tonight?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, you tripping. No, we not. No.

[Joe Hayden]

And when they do, I was. I was really hoping. I'm like, I hope Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You wanted us to lose bad.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm like, I hope Joe come in here with something clean, you know? Hey, listen, all I'm saying is I'm just testing theory out, all right? And it's been 100% so far.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You keep saying that I'd be forgetting what jersey I wore. So I can't even understand exactly if

[Joe Hayden]

that's good, that's good. I don't want you paying attention. I don't want you paying attention.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I see you.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, I want you to represent Cleveland every year.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I can't trust you. I think you're lying. That's the thing.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. What? What I need to lie to you for, Joe?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Because you don't want. You don't want my teams to succeed. You do not want my team to succeed. I don't want the Lakes to succeed.

[Joe Hayden]

If I'm lying to you. If I'm lying to you, then you can go back and see it and be like, oh, he's lying to me.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Okay, but you're right, you're right, you're right.

[Joe Hayden]

The problem is. Ask the chat.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They know what you wore. Did I wear. What did I wear on Friday? I wore a Lakers hat. I know I for sure wore a Lakers hat. I definitely remember that. You said Lakers champions hat.

[Joe Hayden]

Number five yellow jersey. Right?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Number five yellow jersey.

[Joe Hayden]

Chat, chat, please.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Oh, Lakers. I wore the champions.

[Joe Hayden]

I wore the 17 championship Lakers, 17 time NBA jersey.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I did wear the hat, but I don't remember what jersey you were.

[Joe Hayden]

It was. Listen, it was nothing. Cavs. It was all associated to Laker colors. Before that it was Cleveland.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Dang. I wore soccer.

[Joe Hayden]

And they got.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, I did. Okay. I wore still his jersey and a Lakers hat.

[Joe Hayden]

Everybody know Joe. Hey, it's okay.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

All right? Okay, all right.

[Joe Hayden]

It's okay.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Are you testing your theory?

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, why do I need to lie, Joe?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Why?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm not a liar, Joe. Have I ever been known to be

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

a liar, Joe, the Steelers practice.

[Joe Hayden]

That's so bad. That's so bad. You want to call your boy a liar Just so you don't feel guilty about you giving your team all this voodoo. All this voodoo, Joe. I didn't. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just reporting the news, Joe. I'm just. I'm just reporting the news.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm honestly. I'm honestly blown about this.

[Joe Hayden]

Because you want to go Change right now. No, it's too late. We're already on the show, Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, we doing it.

[Joe Hayden]

We here.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We here. I'm not.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I mean, we here. I'm not believing.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't believe you. You.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, that's. I can make you a believer. All right. I ain't gotta do it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I already. I expected for me to come on here and tell you that. You told me my cast was gonna get spanked and they didn't. Detroit Pistons came.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie to you. When you went off camera. When you went off camera and now

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

you putting me into. Now you trying to bend losing me into that. You trying to do the double triple reverse on me.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm telling you. I'm just telling you when you.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Joe, what's up, man?

[Joe Hayden]

We can play it back. When you went and first started, you had on some calves. You switched, came off camera, came back and you had on Lakers. I didn't. I didn't make that up, Joe. You did that. I mean, we could see that from. All right, you know, the people know. They know what you had on. They just don't know what you had on before.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, no. Cause you saw pre.

[Joe Hayden]

We do what we do. We do. Hey, hey. I bet you the Lakers happy that you ain't got on the Laker gear right now. They go actually get one and not get swept.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You know what? Look, if. If that's the case, then I'll really stop paying. I'm gonna start paying attention to what I wear. If your theory is starting to work

[Joe Hayden]

out for sure, man.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Look, hey, Joe, I'm gonna come in this joint. Oklahoma City thundered up. I'm gonna got the shade. Gilrick Alexander's. I just bought them. I should come with the shave butters on.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, you, you, you. Oh, you go.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Go ahead.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, listen.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I'm just gonna throw it on the butters right now. The all white shade butters. They look fresh.

[Joe Hayden]

Purposely do it, Joe. I don't. I don't think it's. I don't think it's going to work though. I don't think it's going to work.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't want it.

[Joe Hayden]

You're conscious of it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I don't want to put anything.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't work.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, I don't. This the thing. I don't want to go out of my way and put anything on anybody. Listen, I want to go out there and ball.

[Joe Hayden]

I expect going bet on the person that he, he. He don't really want to win. Even though when he do bet on them, they lose. I mean, he.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He ain't gonna do that.

[Joe Hayden]

Just reverse.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He ain't gonna do that.

[Joe Hayden]

He just can't.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

All right, man.

[Joe Hayden]

I think he bet on the Lakers.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Just watch the game tonight. Watch Donovan Mitchell. Watch Jared Allen. Watch Max. Watch my boys do exactly what they do.

[Joe Hayden]

Y. I'm g. Watch.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Make it two. Two. Make it two. All right.

[Joe Hayden]

All right. Look here, man. Going over here to the stillness, man. Raises concerns over Aaron Rodgers meeting. Now, listen. Stillers and Aaron Rodgers were reportedly set to meet this weekend to discuss the 2026 season, but those intentions may have fallen apart. And GMO Marcon said this over the weekend. I don't know where specifically Aaron is. I can tell you that Aaron and I and Mike McCarthy and Aaron. And Aaron's representative, we've all had some good conversations since the end of the season, since Mike got here, and it's been positive. But, yeah, I don't know where Aaron is at the moment. We continue to have conversations, and they're positive, and we have good experience with him last year, and I think he would probably echo the same thing. And, you know, conversations continue. That right there, Joe, that don't sound like concern to me. I don't know. Would you tell me what that sound like to you, Joe? Do that sound like concern? I don't hear concern.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's other people coming out and saying that Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be here this weekend. Until I hear it from the horse's mouth when he said, oh, did the Steelers say it? Did Omar say it? No, they have not. They've been constant. They've been saying exactly what they've been saying this whole time. We've been in constant contact with Aaron Rodgers. We expect him to come. I think that's what Omar and them are saying.

[Joe Hayden]

Who?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Everybody that's reporting and saying that Aaron Rodgers is coming. I laugh at. I'm gonna laugh at you, because Aaron Rodgers is gonna do whatever Aaron Rodgers wants to do. I've been saying this, and every time people are gonna report on it, they're gonna keep saying, oh, a rod is gonna be in the air. We're tracking his pj. He's supposed to be coming in there maybe this weekend. We know something. No, you don't. Unless Aaron Rodgers. This is what I'm trying. I'm trying to figure out. Like, we're gonna keep talking about it because everybody keeps saying everybody's going to ask about it and trying to figure out what's going on. You don't know. Nobody knows. I don't know. I know Omar Khan is in. He's saying he's in communication with a Rod and I believe it. Last year a Rod didn't sign until June 5th. It's still OTAs is coming. He doesn't got OTAs. Some of your best don't come to OTAs. It's the mandatory camp after the OTAs and then you have training camp that's coming. So June 5th is when he signed last year. All these other predates, I'm looking at people like why you keep thinking or expecting him to sign before understanding we got a new coach, all that A Rod don't give a damn about none of that. He's grown, he's chilling, he's in contact with them, whatever. But if you're trying to depend on Aaron Rodgers schedule and contemplating when he's going to sign, I'm looking at last year's evidence he didn't sign.

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No OTAs. None of that stuff before training camp comes. If a rod's on the squad, then that's when. June 5th. That's the date I'm kind of looking at. Until before then, all these people saying, oh, I'm thinking a rod is going to come in. I don't believe it. So Omar, he's saying he's in. He doesn't know specifically where a rod is at. I At least he's been saying this the whole time. He never said a rod was coming in this weekend to sign that was somebody else that reported it. Oh yeah. Now we're looking for flights now where everybody's at the airport waiting on a Rod. Not me, not Joe, not Debo, not.

[Joe Hayden]

Not. Not. No, not. Not us.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Not us. Because we know a Rod. We. You gonna come with? You gonna sign what you want to sign? You're. You're in communication with the coaches. That's all I need. You're not. You're like someone. Somebody. Once they said that, I laughed. I'm like, how do you know? Did you talk to a Rod? And now all of a sudden, it's past the weekend. We're at Monday. Did a Rod show up? No, he didn't. And for me, I expected it. You expected it? And when he comes, I expect him to sign before the season starts, before training camp. If training camp starts and a Rod's not on the team. Now everybody's looking crazy. Joe, what's up?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm. I'm not a person that has any. Any ego left. I gave it up. I gave it up. I got a little bit. Maybe a little bit, but. Okay. I'm just going back to if this was the old me way back in the G, and it's a whole bunch of attention on what I'm doing. Okay? So personally, what I think happened is somebody got set up. They got told some misinformation on purpose, for the purpose of just figuring out if, you know, they was. Go say something. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know what it was, Joe. So here it goes. Joe, are you the kind of person that you trust somebody until they give you a reason not to trust them? I would believe you're that kind of person.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm not, Joe. I'm not naive. That's very, very, very, very. See, I'm the youngest of 14, okay. So I got to see and hear all the. That go along in the conversations that my siblings told people, other people tried to tell the mom and daddy. Okay? So I'm of the thought process. I don't trust you till you give me a reason to trust you.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Okay?

[Joe Hayden]

Sometimes that trust or that reason naturally, you know, happens through the process of knowing somebody long enough and you finding out things that basically they said when you weren't in rooms that you wouldn't know anything about because you heard it from someone else that you already had trusted. So now to be like, hey, I want to figure out if I could trust this person, and you like the attention. You will go and manufacture something, and what's the easiest way to find out if you can trust or believe somebody,

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

tell them a lie, see if you get out. Tell them a lie, see if you get out.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, you tell them a lot.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[Joe Hayden]

And then you find out if the lie is come back to you. That's the easiest way to find out if you can trust somebody with information that you tell them. Hey, don't tell nobody, but hey, I know. Coming here.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, no, that's. Especially if they.

[Joe Hayden]

In the breaking news business, Joe. Now, what I want to know is who was the source of this information and how did you get that information? Was your source directly from a person that talked directly to Aaron, or was it second, third, fourth person? So I want to know who the direct source is, because your information right now, whatever you said and what you. Oh, it's true. I know. It's that I die. I'm telling you. It's that I die.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

But you never did.

[Joe Hayden]

No. Now you just got some. Some misinformation and you just got burnt and you burnt the person that told you, too.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Oh, for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

So that's where I think it's at and what I think has happened.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Because, hey, man, if you like a

[Joe Hayden]

little bit of attention, why not manufacture something? Hey, we coming in. They've been looking, They've been foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog to see where Aaron is at, what's going on. Hey, tell them. Tell them about coming in on. On a private PJ with no. With no tail number.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, what you just said, that makes complete sense. That, that, that definitely you want to find out. You want to find out who's the rat in the house. You give out some information and see if that back to you. That's facts.

[Joe Hayden]

You want to find out who the rat is, smoke them out, give them some misinformation to see how fast to get back to you. And if you get. And matter of fact, if you want to give some good misinformation, give two. Tell them, oh, it's gonna be this or this. That way you know which source it came from.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that because this is all I'm saying. Yeah, that part and the same thing. You don't know what a rod is doing unless you literally talking to him. So it got to be something. Whereas false information getting leaked. But yeah, I'm still in the fact of a rod is still chilling. He's cooling. He's in contact with them. Omar don't sound like. He don't sound off.

[Joe Hayden]

Nothing sounds off. Why would he be concerned about where he is at. He is not signed to the team.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He's not.

[Joe Hayden]

Why would I be concerned about where he's at? We're talking, we're having great conversations from what he's saying. They're communicating with him, his agent and everybody else. So why would he be concerned about where Aaron Rodgers is when he is not signed to the team? To have to be concerned about where he is during any type of activities that's going on?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah,

[Joe Hayden]

that's. That's all I'm saying. Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Hey, I'm with you.

[Joe Hayden]

Somebody got smoked out, Joe. And they don't even know they got smoked.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Somebody got smoked out and had no idea that they was getting played.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Yeah.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Be more careful.

[Joe Hayden]

Got to be more careful.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Got to be more careful.

[Joe Hayden]

They're going over here to Cleveland, man. We got a lot of things going on, man. Listen. They said Todd Muggin had tipped the Brown's hand on Taylor Green's future now. Browns kick off. The Browns kicked off day one of their rookie mini camp on Friday.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Joe Hayden]

They did that, man. Six round rookie telling Green yeah, Watson or Dylan Gray got to handle the bulk of the practice snaps. Yeah, it's rookie camp with idiots anyway.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

When asked about Green, Monkey sounded like a man who expected Green to be familiar in the team. Short to be firmly. Sorry, sorry. Warmly in the team's short and long term plans. While he said it's too early to say that the team would create a special package or plays for Green on game days, he refused to rule out short yardage, low red zone and third down scenarios if Green can progress in certain areas of his game. Joe yo, do you listen? What's going on with y' all Cleveland writers, man? They just ain't got nothing else to do. Like what's going on? How is he tipping his hat? Tell me.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Debo. That's what I'm telling you. He's not. He's talking on the other guys. This is rookie minicamp. Who else is going to be there? We drafted him. Obviously. We talked about his, what he did back in the day, how tall he is, how fast he is, the attributes that he. He's a young quarterback and this is the time when he gets the reps and it's time for him to see what he can do. I'm in the fan of not. We got so many quarterbacks now too. When I'm saying desean Watson, Shador Sanders, cool. Dylan Gabriel and Jalen and Taylor Green. I'm not. We need to have three quarterbacks on the team it's going to be. DeSean's going to be there because of the bag. I believe in Shador Sanders and when that third quarterback like we gonna have to had practice. So it's going to be Jalen Taylor Green or Dylan Gabriel. I. If Dalen Green is looking really good, I'm not mad at him being able to come up one and be over Dylan Gabriel because we've seen what he can do and I don't believe he can be a quarterback in this NFL to be a starting quarterback for our team. For the Browns, he showed, he, he showed what he could do. So now when we say three quarterbacks, okay, Taylor Green, we got desean Watson and we still have Shador. These are two young quarterbacks that we still have. Shador in his second year, Taylor in this first. Desean is the vet that can about to be out of there, you know what I'm saying? So still watch, learn, see what's going on. Shador, how that thing works out. But we still got those two talented young quarterbacks that I think that we could still be able to see what they can do. And having talent at the quarterback is not a problem. Like if we do have a situation where we do have desean Watson, I believe in Shador Sanders and Taylor Green is a young prospect where he's big. We talked about it Debo. We was like if the Steelers could get him, that would be a nice project to have. Tall, fast, make the throws all he needs to get, get a coach around him, get some weapons. We could see what he could do. So with my what my what my thing is, the, the, the article makes it look like obviously the Browns aren't doing nothing crazy. It's a young quarterback. It's the rookie minicamp. This is when he gets reps, obviously. And you don't want, you don't want your coach if he's bashing him like, oh no, he's obviously has no shot. If you see a little bit of something into him, speak highly on your guys. Like, okay, that's cool, you drafted them, you see good things, that's fine. Your vets aren't even there. So obviously. I mean, sometimes I think they just try to stir up stuff that I don't think really is anything

[Joe Hayden]

for me personally. Joe, I don't think he's tipping his hat. I actually think it's smart of me. I think it's smart of him to say, you know what, there's a possibility that Taylor Green could be part of our offense. I would have said, you know what? Maybe we will create a special package

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

that other people think about it. What? Come on.

[Joe Hayden]

Situationally?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

And, you know, anything's possible. We go. And he said that we go see how it goes.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Why?

[Joe Hayden]

I want you to think and have to worry about everything that we're going to do.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes. Thank you.

[Joe Hayden]

That may get to the table. He's not tipping his hat. He's giving everybody else more things to have to worry about. Like, even, like all you got. Look at this dude, man. What is he, six? Six? The boy ran like a four, four, four, three, Something like that. Crazy.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

He's big, athletic, and can throw. So if you create a special package for him, you get him into the low red zone, you get him into areas where you cut down on him. Having to worry about the things of the mechanical issues, the inconsistency in, you know, being able to process to defense. Why I make. You have to do only two reads after that? Well, yeah, after that, you use your athletic ability and you get up out of there. You're taking a quarterback that's a true wildcat quarterback that can still throw a bomb accurately down the field. Come on. If dude want to take off and go. If that's the read, allow him to use his athletic ability if it's not there, and if it is there, launch that down the field. Y' all are out of your rabbit mind. What he's doing right now is. He is possibly already, especially game one, creating more work for D coordinators.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Thousand percent.

[Joe Hayden]

Especially if you get anything that looks close to that in preseason. Even if you don't do it, you got to put it out there so they can see it. So they gotta worry about it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Listen, Deebo, I love the way that you kept your mind open and just not when you have quarterback. It seems like they always want to have a mess at quarterback for us. Like, we have Shador. Finally. We did draft him. A lot of people, some people just don't like him, just don't want him to succeed. Deshaun Watson, you know, we got drafted at first. They didn't want to see. It's just we want to have negativity going around the quarterback position. We got two quarterbacks there that are fighting. And now we drafted another guy that could potentially, if these other guys don't work, he could be successful. So it's not a bad place to be in. But you always try to. You want to make drama when it's not.

[Joe Hayden]

You got to realize, Joe, y' all been so sorry for so Long. That the only thing that's good that can come out of that is creating drama. And they done got stuck in. In a protocol of creating drama as writers and they don't know what else to do but to stir up. They can't stick with, oh, this guy. They just, hey, let me stir up some. Because we might be. Because we've been. So let me get something started.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Say right now, y' all go out there and win. I mean, you ain't gonna beat us, but y' all go out there and win. I can fix a lot of y'

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

all problems a thousand percent.

[Joe Hayden]

But will it. Will, will it fix their writing? I don't know. They still may sit there and be like, oh, they won a game, but you know, hey, they don't.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Nah, I'm telling. Consistent win. If they did this before, it's gotta be. It's got. Our offense starts moving and we start scoring. We gotta start scoring points, we gotta start scoring points. Defense, special teams wasn't too good last year either. We just gotta be full round team, score points, special teams, our defense be what you always been. We just can't have a lack off at that. You know what I'm saying? But every season is different. People are going to be moving around. But defense continue to ball, special teams ball out. And let's get some points on the board like a real live NFL offense when we come out there and we know we can go get 21, 24, that's not too much to ask for. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

But you know what? Now to think about it, didn't you. The linebacker that y' all had, he's out for another, another season, right?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yeah, but we went and got. We went and signed. We went and signed the linebacker, my man from dang. We went and just signed a linebacker just like him. What's my man name? No, we went in free agency, we got. Is it Quincy? Quincy. Quincy. There we go, Quincy.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Quincy Williams, linebacker, just like the linebacker that we got. And then, you know, we got the defensive rookie of the year, you know what I'm saying, at the other line.

[Joe Hayden]

This is true.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

He's coming.

[Joe Hayden]

You got both, right?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We got both.

[Joe Hayden]

You got both.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes, brother.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, hey, you got all that and y' all still one.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. The defense is not the problem. That's why we talk about we got to get some points. Offensive line, special team.

[Joe Hayden]

Well, you got, you got offensive line. Y'. All. Y' all do. Offensive line, we gonna see how well they play and play.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's gonna it look good on paper. They're gonna have to go and ball out. They're gonna have to.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie. You went from having nothing to having five. That's better than. That's far better than what you had, a real five. Because you ain't had shit. You ain't even had five bodies to even, you know, put nothing in place with.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You know, you just be throwing out disrespect. We had five bodies.

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[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

They was. They were moving around. It was, it was. They were interchangeable, but not yet. We got. We got a real five now. Let's not talk about the past going forward, okay? Going forward.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm just. I'm just speaking what it was, how it is, what it transitioned into, where you're at now. I mean, if we can't, you know, look at the past, you know, we got, we got to make sure we don't make those mistakes again, you know, so that we don't continue that, you know? You know. Yeah, I mean, I would love for y' all to do it, you know, but just, you know, I'm just saying you ain't gonna win the North. That's all I'm really saying. I'm trying to tell you after the

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

draft, I'm trying to tell you this will happen. The draft was what we needed for the first time when my boy, Andrew Berry. Honestly, in a smart way, last year's draft was great. We did.

[Joshua Cribbs]

We.

[Joe Hayden]

We.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We got some.

[Joe Hayden]

When you lose, your draft should be great. Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I understand that. No, no, no, not, not. No. Just because that means you get one pick, one pick higher. But then at the end of the day, the other draft picks ended up hitting. You got to pick the right people, and they have to hit the third round picks. Your first round pick could be trash. Not make the team like, that's that's real talk.

[Joe Hayden]

That's if you were trash. If you're a trash picker, you know you gotta be a trash picker to get a guy in the first or second round that you don't re sign.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

When I asked you this, you said this. You said we don't want to speak on it. But we did the. How about. All right, I'm gonna go to. I'm not even gonna talk bad about our guys right now. We just. That's not. It's not a bad session.

[Joe Hayden]

Who are we gonna talk bad about? What you talking about? Who is our guys. You get. I'm getting confused as hell. Cause you do a lot of flip flopping us them. They who the talk to you about

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Sometimes all of your picks don't hit

[Joe Hayden]

who is who is.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

So like we said when I with our good old. Our guys say something.

[Joe Hayden]

We haven't hit our guys, Joe.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Our receivers. We haven't been able to sign our receivers.

[Joe Hayden]

Who is us? We talking about the Cleveland. Who does. Who is us? We talking about Steelers.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Are we talking about Pittsburgh Steelers?

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, now what you saying, huh? You know what? We go.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

It's not even. Let's not even get into it right now, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna. I might want to hand you, bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, no, don't do that.

[Joe Hayden]

Being disrespectful, bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Oh no.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey man, I'm friends.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We got friends.

[Joe Hayden]

Look here, brother.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Look, look.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, ladies and gentlemen, I gotta introduce somebody to y'. All. Today we have another undrafted free agent out of D. Kent State University. Picked up by the Cleveland Browns in 2005. He would then go on to be a three time Pro Bowler along with a first team All Pro 2009, 10 years in the league, became one of the greatest kick returners in the NFL. The greatest kick returner in Cleveland Brown history.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

A thousand percent.

[Joe Hayden]

The man finished with over 10,000 kickoff return yards. That's top 10 in the NFL. Number one with the Browns, 13,488 combined return yards. That's number one in the Browns history. The man got eight kickoff returns for a touchdown. That's tied for the NFL all time record. Yes, it is A and the only player to return 2100 kick. 100 yard kickoff return for a touchdown.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Same game in NFL history. Name to the all decade team 2000 as a kick returner. Inducted into the Cleveland Sports hall of fame in 2023. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my old college quarterback, Joshua Cribs. Let's go. Yes, sir.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes, sir.

[Joshua Cribbs]

What's up, guys? What's up, baby?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

What's up?

[Joshua Cribbs]

Can y' all hear me?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Good, man.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Look now, Debo James, look. I made it. I'm in our old stomping ground.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Right behind me. That's where we used to have study tables in the load.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[Joshua Cribbs]

In the top of the Mac Center. So it's a lot of. I got a lot of goosebumps going on.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

That's good.

[Joe Hayden]

For sure, for sure. I know you just got hired over there as the assistant for. Sorry, special teams. Yep, yep. Yes, special teams. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. How you like it?

[Joshua Cribbs]

I love it, man. This is for me, you know? And y' all know this. As ex players, man, we. It's hard for us to let the game go, right? To just walk away from something we've been doing so long. And for me, coaching now is just like playing. I never thought ever I would wanna ever coach. Seeing the long hours they put in. And y' all know this. Yeah, no, for sure, like, we don't wanna do that. We wanna get out of the building as soon as possible. But once the game and the lights cut off for me, you know, after putting so much of my life into it, you know, this was the most logical step for me to hold onto that edge to that, you know, that all purpose football mentality that I still possessed.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Mm. Well, Cribs, man, I say one thing too, bro. It's so crazy because you from dc. Yes, sir. You from the crib. You ended up playing, you ended up going to the Browns, and that's how we got to play together. You know, my boy Deebo. Cause y' all was both at Kent State, so it's just crazy how it's love all over the place. Like, I never really had a player to kind of play with both of us in two different. You just saying two different times. So I want. Thanks for having you on the show, bro. You are a legend, obviously from the crib, me being from back at home. What was your first moment, bro, back from childhood, that you would think that could actually change your life with playing football.

[Joshua Cribbs]

It's just Pop Warner, man. Like being able to do something at a high level. I'll tell you this. And you know this. James know it too, man.

[Joe Hayden]

We. We.

[Joshua Cribbs]

We didn't win often with the Browns. We had one winning season that. That 10 and six year.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joshua Cribbs]

And it was. For me, it was sort of like redundant, like, you know, losing and then coming home feeling like I'm putting it all out there on the field. 1. I remember one game, we get back in town and I'm driving, driving back home on 71. And, you know, it was just a somber moment. And I felt like it was becoming a drag. The sport that I had played, Pop Warner, Pee Wee football league in D.C. all the way up to through college to NFL. I'm finally here. And now in my soul, it felt like I was sad. So what I did was I rededicated myself to the game, to the sport that, you know, we love. I went out, I saw a rec ball game going on, and I kind of stood back in the stands and kind of, you know, looked at the young kids playing and grabbed a little bit of that momentum that they had. And knowing that every kid out there on the field, they want to go pro, they trying to play their heart out. And for me, it was a rededication moment. And I had to think back to when I was playing every day at recess and, you know, just the love that I had for the game way back when, when it was fun. Cause if y' all don't know when, I do motivational speaking engagements, you know, for high schools or, you know, most importantly for the young kids, the elementary kids, I'm like, how would you like to make millions of dollars to go to recess? Right? And they don't understand because every day at recess we played football. It was throwback tackle or some type of football. And now you mean to tell me they gonna pay me millions of dollars to go to recess? Yeah. That's how I had to rededicate myself and look at the sport, whether we winning or losing. Hey, I'm here. I'm here. Make the best of it.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

The love of it. The love. So I want. Hey, bro, take me inside of your relationship with Deebo at Kent State. Oh my God. What's that like, bro?

[Joshua Cribbs]

Oh, my. So look, I'm gonna have to say a lot of alleged right. Cause I know Deebo, remember? But I wanna keep his integrity, right? Cause like this, his name was Jaybo. Play on words.

[Joe Hayden]

I know where people know me from.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Depending on.

[Joe Hayden]

Depending on what they call me. Depending on what I got. I got Jaybo, I got Debo, I got Pitbull, I got Silverback, I got two day vet, depending on the name they call me.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

I know that's what you know.

[Joshua Cribbs]

And look, I was introduced to him by upperclassmen. It was like he was like, you know, had his own. Even though he had his own apartment, it was like his office Like, I couldn't just come to him by myself. It had to be a qualifier, you know, one of his teammates, upperclassmen, to bring me in his presence. And he don't know that. It was like a big stipulation. I'm the young quarterback and I'm like, dang. And they like, yeah, man, that's Debo, That's Ja Bo. You know, like, stay away from him, man. Just stay on his good side. Like, if you stay on this good side, you be good, bro. Let me tell you, we had the red jerseys on in practice.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Dang.

[Paramount Network Announcer]

You gotta do better.

[Joshua Cribbs]

It ain't my fault. Look, it ain't my fault.

[Joe Hayden]

Stop.

[Joshua Cribbs]

That's universal.

[Joe Hayden]

Stop. I told them to tell him to stop running in 707.

[Joshua Cribbs]

It was running in 707.

[Joe Hayden]

I said, do you hit him next time? He was running 707.

[Joshua Cribbs]

I'm a tap 7:07. I'm just trying to do the quarterback, you know, rollout. Ain't nothing there. Let me go ahead and run it out.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Joshua Cribbs]

He's not having it. 707, bro. I got on a red jersey. You don't hit the court. I might as well had on a yellow jersey for being hurt.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You had on the red jersey.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Mean.

[Joe Hayden]

Stop, bro.

[Joshua Cribbs]

He was.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Stop.

[Joe Hayden]

Josh is making. Listen, he making like he's full time, bro.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Cribs is not a liar.

[Joe Hayden]

He's not making this up, bro.

[Joshua Cribbs]

He hit me. Look, I'm going through a fake option.

[Joe Hayden]

He is exaggerating like it was one time at one time.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Look, I ran a fake option. I pitched the ball seven on seven. I let go. He knocked me out, bro. So I was like, confused. Cause I'm like. I didn't understand. Like, I'm like, we hitting practice like they hit the quarterback in practice. Like, they not worried about making me making it to the game.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

And my jersey's ready.

[Paramount Network Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I promise you he's lying, bruh. I told them.

[Joshua Cribbs]

I got up and looked at the jersey.

[Joe Hayden]

He would take off. He exaggerating, bro. He would take off in 707 when he couldn't find something instead of throwing the ball away. I said, coach. Our coach. Dp. I said, coach, if he run again, I said, y' all doing all the ooh in the nine. We ain't got no D line out here. I said, if you run again, I said, I'm gonna fire off on him. I said, I swear on seven on seven. And that.

[Joshua Cribbs]

That tells you right then and there that the coach should have said, hold on. Somebody come in we need to.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

We need a sub.

[Joshua Cribbs]

We can't have. Cause, look, as soon as he hit me the next play, before I even get the next play, I'm talking to Coach Dean Pease, and I'm like, coach, you know, I kind of flagged him over. He was like, you all right, son? I'm like, we getting hit. He's like, no, no, no, no, Red. Then he won't hit you. He won't hit you again. That's just James, you know?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

That's just James.

[Joshua Cribbs]

He won't hit you again. And I'm like, can he see?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Can he see?

[Joshua Cribbs]

Do he know? Does he know that? Cause I'm like, okay, once is an accident, right? So, you know, I'm not running an option. It's in practice, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

11.

[Joshua Cribbs]

11 in practice. We still got the red jerseys on, bro. Same style. I come down the line, I pitch it. He knocked me out, bro, Again, like the wind. And you know what it feel like to get your wind knocked out and you stay down?

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Yes, yes.

[Joshua Cribbs]

I flash forwarded to that moment when I was playing with the Browns. And I know. We'll talk about that later.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

See?

[Joshua Cribbs]

No, but it just hurt.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Like, it was, like, right into it. Crips, we going right, right into that one.

[Joshua Cribbs]

And so, look, he has been known, right, to just not follow rules, as

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

we all know, 1,000%.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Like, it's just his MO.

[Joe Hayden]

What the.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Yeah, it just don't apply to him.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Hayden]

He never did.

[Joshua Cribbs]

No, it never did.

[Joe Hayden]

Honestly, what was the rules when I hit you? Cribs, the helmet was.

[Joshua Cribbs]

It was thump. That's what the speed of the game. It was thump.

[Joe Hayden]

I thumped you. You just went down, bro. You.

[Joshua Cribbs]

I was half your size. Like, it ain't my thought. A thump on the quarterback. You put your life. You put your helmet and shoulder pad in me like you was. Like you was trying to take me like I was a playing footballer.

[Joe Hayden]

That's a thump.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Nope.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Not on the quarterback.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

Not on the quarterback.

[Joshua Cribbs]

The way he was hitting me in practice. They would suspend him in the NFL for hitting a QB like that.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my God.

[Joshua Cribbs]

Suspension.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my God. They would review it. Why we brought this dude, I promise you.

[James 'Deebo' Harrison]

You know why we brought truth tellers on the show. Josh Cribs is a truth teller.

[Joshua Cribbs]

I'm trying to tell you.

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