Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Baker Mayfield to Steelers? + Joel Bitonio Retires

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Deebo & Joe, Part 2: Baker Mayfield to Steelers? + Joel Bitonio Retires

Date: June 12, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Main Guests: Debo & Joe

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Episode Overview

This energetic Nightcap episode dives into breaking NFL headlines and rumors with the show's signature blend of banter, athlete perspective, and quick reactions. Key discussions include speculation over Baker Mayfield’s possible move to Pittsburgh, the recent retirement announcement of star guard Joel Bitonio, big-money contract debates, and inside stories from the players’ personal experiences. The tone is candid, humorous, and heavy on real locker room takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Baker Mayfield to the Steelers?

[02:54–09:50]

• Debate Spark: Mike Florio (NFL Insider) stirs up conversation suggesting Baker Mayfield would be perfect as the Steelers' next quarterback after Aaron Rodgers’ expected retirement. Rumors swirl around upcoming free agency and whether the Steelers should make a move.
• Debo’s Take:
  • “I don't know if he'd hit free agency after 2026...I think he gave them to training camp to get a deal done.”
  • He’s cautious, noting the uncertainty around current QBs (Drew Aller, Will Howard) and the risks in paying big for Baker if internal options look promising.
  • “If the deal can't be done...I might have to switch him off for a couple first-round picks.” [06:34]
• Joe’s POV:
  • Agrees that patience is needed with younger QBs, and Baker should only be considered if development stalls.
  • “If we had Baker on our team without Aaron Rodgers, I would be happy with that. But we're trying to figure out, moving forward, what are all the options?” [08:27]
• Cost and Fit:
  • Discussing contract numbers ($35–40M/year), they question value for dollar versus draft and development alternatives.
  • Both acknowledge Baker is “solid, solid option” but not a slam dunk unless young QBs flop or expectations ramp up.

2. Joel Bitonio’s Retirement

[09:50–13:58]

• Big News: Seven-time Pro Bowler and five-time All-Pro guard Joel Bitonio retires after 12 years.
• Joe on Bitonio:
  • “The model of consistency...He had was the first he passed Joe Thomas in snaps...captain of the team for a bunch of years.” [10:32]
  • “He didn’t say too much...just smooth, about business...always professional, always just carried himself at a very high character.” [11:00]
  • Joe sees Bitonio as a future Hall of Famer, comparing him to Steelers legend David DeCastro: “Grown man coming that joint, doing his job to the best of his ability, like all pros.” [13:23]
• Bitonio’s Own Words (Retirement Presser):

  "I was drafted the same year as Johnny Manziel and we actually roomed together. I learned some things not to do from him...I learned how to be egoless from Nick Chubb. I learned to always smile like Christian Kirksey...Ate a chief slam from David Njoku. I learned how to be fiery and competitive from Baker.” [12:28]

3. The "Weather Tax": Miles Garrett’s Move to LA

[13:58–23:14]

• Financial Sacrifice for Winning:
  • Segment analyzes Miles Garrett leaving money on the table with the Browns to join the LA Rams, absorbing a whopping state income tax hike (Ohio 3.125% vs. California 13.3%).
  • Debo highlights: “Garrett will lose 10% of his gross pay...He now loses that because he went over there to LA. Hey, look here, man. The man meant what he said...he wanted to win.” [14:08–14:56]
• Joe’s Spin:
  • Justifies the sacrifice: “It’s the weather tax...I'm going to be in LA...win Super Bowls with Matthew Stafford...run up the bag again.” [15:27, 19:15]
  • “That's another 4 million a year. So instead of making $40 million a year, it's $36 million.” [22:32]
• Debo’s Pushback:
  • Jokes about rising costs in California: “They got a mansion tab. You sell a car...they got traffic tax...road tax for driving on the road.” [22:55]
• Takeaway:
  • Debate between quality of life, weather, opportunity to win, and maximizing money defines the elite athlete’s difficult choices.

4. Vikings QB Battle: Kyler Murray vs. J.J. McCarthy

[24:56–29:44]

• Justin Jefferson’s Praise for McCarthy:

  “He understands the game, understands the defense, and just how to put touch on the ball just enough to where it gets to where it’s got to go...throws the ball before you even get outta that break.” [25:16]

• Reading Between the Lines:
  • Both Debo and Joe interpret Jefferson’s comments as support for McCarthy over Kyler Murray, implying Kyler’s skills as a "throw-him-open" QB set him apart.
  • “Basically, Debo, I'm just trying to not...yeah, he's saying he likes you.” [29:54]
• Implication:
  • High-level WRs crave vet-level ball placement and anticipation—a subtle message about preferred starter.

5. Steelers Depth Chart and Defense Outlook

[31:04–34:16]

• Viewer Q&A (Super Chat): Should Steelers trade Mason Rudolph, make Will Howard #2, and Drew Aller #3?
• Debo:
  • Doesn’t think Rudolph would fetch much in trade, expects job battles in camp.
  • Confirms Highsmith will not be traded, expects long-term stability: “They already said they got some...way to work that out...It’s a transition over the next couple years where we keep that group.” [32:06]
• Joe on Defense:
  • Excited about secondary, communication, and the full unit under a new scheme: “Communication...once we have communication, the body on bodies...when we’re in the right position, then it’s going to be a lot more to see.” [34:16]

6. Locker Room Stories & Banter

[43:03–47:11]

• Wild NFL Rookie Days:
  • Debo retells his early-career days juggling five phones, hustling on a practice squad salary, and running side hustles to make ends meet.
  • “I was making two grand a month, Joe. I was on practice squad...changing my number more than I was changing my underwear, bro.” [43:47]
• Teasing & Camaraderie:
  • Debo needles Joe about shoes, jerseys, and their old teams (Steelers vs. Browns).
  • Bit of lighthearted tension: “I'm a good person, man.” [47:00]
  • Joe: “No, Debo, you are A really good person, bro. A thousand percent wild man for show, though.” [47:05]

7. Predictions & Closing

[50:18–51:43]

• Steelers Win Predictions:
  • Joe: “12 at least. But mine, 13 for real. 13 to 4. Yep. Them boys gonna get it.” [51:19]
  • Debo: “I reckon you were in the right range, but I'm gonna give them two more. 15-2. Ain’t gonna be no worse than 13.” [51:00–51:16]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the QB Market:

  • Debo: “If the deal can't be done...I might have to switch him off for a couple first-round picks.” [06:34]
  • Joe: “Lay all the chips on the table, because if you're saying if it’s Joe Burrow, I'm running over everything.” [08:43]

• On Weather Tax:

  • Debo: “The man meant what he said. He wanted to win. He was willing to lose 10 of my money. I'm gonna pay 10 to come over here and win.” [14:44]
  • Joe: “It’s the weather tax...that's what's going to happen...But all I know is my portion, that's still going to be fine.” [15:27, 19:36]

• On Joel Bitonio:

  • Joe: “Just a model level of consistency...a future hall of Fame, honestly.” [11:00]

• On Career Beginnings:

  • Debo: “I was making two grand a month, Joe. I was on practice squad. Wow...I was changing my number more than I was changing my underwear, bro.” [43:47]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:54] Baker Mayfield-Steelers speculation boils up
• [06:34] “Might have to switch him off for a couple first-round picks” – Debo’s GM hat
• [09:50] Joel Bitonio’s retirement, career reflections
• [12:28] Bitonio's press conference quote on lessons and teammates
• [14:08] Debo on Miles Garrett’s LA “weather tax”
• [19:15] Joe’s take: “I'm going to be in LA...win Super Bowls with Matthew Stafford”
• [25:16] Justin Jefferson on McCarthy’s QB skills
• [32:06] Highsmith and the Steelers’ defensive continuity
• [43:47] Debo reminisces about rookie-year hustle and multiple phones
• [50:56] Steelers 2026 win total predictions

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Episode Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode is a lively mix of hard NFL analysis, playful rival banter, and straight-up storytelling. Former players Debo and Joe are transparent about the tough decisions and grind behind the headlines—contract choices, career pivots, the struggle of early pro football years, and pride in team and legacy. Quotes are funny and raw, but insights on player value, locker room vibes, and strategic front-office thinking make it more than just entertainment.

Summary: Nightcap’s mix of “real talk” and off-field laughs makes for a must-listen for fans wanting smart NFL talk layered with authentic athlete perspective and unfiltered fun.

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[Debo]

So they say Baker Could Baker Mayfield be the Steelers next quarterback after Aaron Rogers? NFL Insider Baker Mayfield would be perfect for the Steelers as he's poised to hit free agency after the 2026. I don't know if he go hit free agency after 2026 because I think he gave them Bo to win. Was it. I think you got. I think he gave him to the training clan to, to get a chance to, I guess, you know, get a, get a deal done or however it may be. I don't know why we already talking about a quarterback for the Steelers next year, dude, like, like we talking about. I mean, I would talk about it. Oh, I mean, I guess if it was Joe Burrow, you know what I'm saying? If it was Joe Burrow, I would do that. But Mike Flores, if it's Baker Mayfield United, I, I, I, I ain't tripping. If Mike, if it's Mike Florio, dude, if, like he seems to think that. What do you say? He said Baker Mayfield would be perfect in Pittsburgh. He would be perfect. He said. I know, I know. They would like to get off of the train of old veteran quarterbacks. Baker ain't that old either, though. But I mean, he's a spring chicken compared to Aaron Rodgers. I would make a beeline, he said, for Baker Mayfield. If I'm Mike McCarthy and instillers I get through the season and my options are Will Howard and Drew Aller or Mason Rudolph. I'm doing whatever it takes to get to Baker Mayfield and to get Baker Mayfield in Pittsburgh. So that's what he thinks. I don't know about that.

[Joe]

What are you thinking?

[Debo]

Me? I don't know. I would say yes. I would say it would really have to depend on what true development you saw in your players first. So we don't know. We still have no clue of what Drew or Will can do. Drew just got there. Will was hurt. Like, we have no idea. Like, so if that became to where, like, it was like, okay, it was a toss up, throw up in the air of if he was going to be able to or if either one of them was going to be a automatic. I see him as a starter for us next year, then, yeah. Now that's going to determine what it is that Baker is looking to get from it. And assuming what Was his last deal three year, 100 million? You know, he's either looking for that right now. He's 29. He's looking for that right now, and if not more. And they're obviously, I guess they're balking on it a little bit. And he's. He done gave him a deadline that they got to get the deal done by training camp. So if they don't get that deal done by training camp, then he's like, ain't no deal to get done and I'm out of here. If we are in that, I don't know if, if he comes wanting, you know, 35, 40 million, do we even. Yeah, do we even think about that versus what may be out there? And like I said, it's a whole bunch of other stuff that got to happen before we even get to that point. Like where we go be at in the draft, you know, like what we go be. Like, we already go be last, you know what I'm saying? Because we about to win the Super Bowl. So, you know, is it something that we can get done? Package, whatever, Toss. I don't know, to get it. Oh, I hate to say this. Go ahead. I don't know why that just went through my head.

[Joe]

Say it. What you thinking, Debo?

[Debo]

If the deal can't be done a little peasy, I might have to switch him off for a couple first round picks.

[Joe]

Whoa, hell.

[Debo]

Oh, damn. I don't even know why I thought of that.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Debo]

Listen, man, I don't even know why

[Joe]

he's no, you know, he's young.

[Debo]

I'm just telling you what went through my head. That was all.

[Joe]

Yeah, okay. I'm glad you told me.

[Debo]

My GM hat on. I was trying to get a quarterback in the first day on the first pick, and I know that one.

[Joe]

One, that one went in one ear, out the other.

[Debo]

Damn. That was GM thoughts, man. They just float through your head. Crazy something, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

Like, nah, this is what I'm saying. We gotta. We're gonna run this year.

[Debo]

Oh, yeah, we gotta. We listen, we gotta sign. We gotta sign point blank, period.

[Joe]

That, that, that's point, blade, period.

[Debo]

With this, this, this, this Baker Mayfield thing, I just don't see that happening, especially with us having two guys like Mason Rudolph. I don't think he's going to be there. So I don't even think that's a name that really should have been thrown into it. But, like, until we actually know and have a greater understanding of what will and Drew can do. I think we, you know, we. We jump to conclusions way too fast about jumping over and giving, you know, Baker Mayfield, he need to be the quarterback now. Joe Burrow. Yeah. I' ma stumble and trip and fall on my face. Yeah. But, I mean, Becker's good. I'm not. I ain't got nothing to guess him. But it's just depending on, you know, what it is he's looking for what he wants. You know, he. He wanna. He want to come over here with. With like, you know, Aaron Rodgers number. You want to go 25. Maybe up to. Maybe up to 27 or something like even 30, depending on how I go for a year. 2.

[Joe]

He. He. He had 33. He had 33.

[Debo]

Right now that might work, but, you know, definitely after the end of the year, we gotta. We gotta. If he don't get signed, we gotta kick the tires and just see what he talking about. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

Yeah. Are we keeping our eyes wide open? We keeping our options open. But we gonna have to know, like you said, we do have two quarterbacks that haven't touched the field for real. That we. Drew Aller and. And, I mean, Drew Howard and. And Aller. And Drew Aller. So, like, if we have these players and we finish a Rod does this whole season, and then he obviously retires, what is McCarthy? Like, who. That's why I'm looking at our team. What is the offensive line? What is our running game? How is our team developed? And then are these two dudes that we have, do we see them looking like, are they better than potentially Baker Mayfield? And I'm not knocking Baker. Like you said, solid, solid option. I'm not mad at him at all. We had Baker on our team without Aaron Rodgers. I would be happy with that. But we're trying to figure out, moving forward, what are all the options? Let's lay all the chips on the table, because if you're saying if it's Joe Burrow, I'm running over everything. I don't care who else was on our roster. You make complete sense. We're going to go get him for when we need him. But with what we got going on now, if Joe Burrow's not there, we can sit there, chill. Is Drew. Is the other guy? What does it look like? We could take our time.

[Debo]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Hey, Joe, man, we got some. We got some news. How we got some news over here in. In Cleveland.

[Joe]

Brown.

[Debo]

Seven time Pro Bowler, five time All Pro guard. You know who he is? Joe

[Joe]

Antonio.

[Debo]

Antonio shout out. Antonio is retired from NFL 12 seasons. Joe. Hey.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Remember that great office in line.

[Joe]

Joe. Yep.

[Debo]

Y' all shored up. What happened?

[Joe]

Oh, we had to go get. We were kind first.

[Debo]

It makes me feel so good.

[Joe]

No, because I wanted to get Joe. We didn't want to just skip till we got. We had. We had to get Lyman to replace my man Joe because Joe, great player. 12 years in the league, seven Pro Bowls, five all pros. The model of consistent consistency he had was the first he passed Joe Thomas and snaps. You know what I'm saying? So just when I was there, when you got players like Joe Pantonio, seven Pro Bowls, when you were just coming in there doing what you got to do every single day, Work pale was the captain of the team for a bunch of years. And like Debo, you always laugh, but when you don't have success and then you have players like Joe that come in and do exactly what you. What a. What a team, what a coach, what a gm, what a. A championship team need, what a championship. What championship teams are looking for. I always just admire that. So when I play. I played with Joe, I played with Joe Thomas and those dudes when he came in his rookie year, he was right next to Joe T. And was able to play for such a long time and just a model level of consistency. He didn't say too much, but the dudes came in there. You know those offensive linemen, they just grown men. They don't do nothing flashy. He had a truck, he chilled. He didn't say nothing. He had his wife, he had his family. And it just was Joe, he just smooth. You knew he was. He was about business. It wasn't. No, it was you. A joke around with you and stuff. But end of the day, Joe's coming in here to do his job. He got a job to do. If you ask him what's going on, he knows exactly what to do. He's never not on time. He's always professional, always just carried himself at a very high character. So when you see dudes in the league just moving around and you just see grown men on your team that you respect and you know that they did it the right way, love him and he. He deserves everything that he gets. So I think he's a future hall of Fame, honestly. So it was him and Joe T. Those two dudes and Alex Smith, Alex Mack. I had like legitimate offensive lineman that we played for the Browns that just were work pale dudes. Lunch lunch work pals just came in there did their jobs every day, actually.

[Debo]

We have. We have. What he said at his retirement press conference. Listen, Joe, play guard in the NFL. I was drafted the same year as Johnny Manziel, and we actually roomed together. I learned some things not to do from him. I got the opportunity to play with and learn from so many guys. I learned how to be egoless from Nick Chubb. I learned to always smile like Christian Kirksey. I learned a chief slam from David and Joku. I learned how to be fiery and competitive from Baker. Oh, oh, oh, Fire. Competitive. Sound like a good dude, man.

[Joe]

Really good dude, Debo. Really good.

[Debo]

I ain't sad he gone. I'm happy. Great. Good job. Go retire. Have your life. Live your life, man. You did a great job, you know?

[Joe]

You know, he remind me of bro that played for the Steelers. Was it David?

[Debo]

I knew you was about to say the Castro.

[Joe]

The Castro. He reminded me of the Castro. I should have said, like, literally, they the same dude. Grown man coming that joint, doing his job to the best of his ability, like all pros. You know what I'm saying? Just coming. I'm like, he makes it look easier than everybody else. He's just chilling, like, getting the job done, writing the spots, the steps and everything. So when I. When I came there, I'm like, this thing remind me of Joe. Like the Castro. The same. So super similar, dude.

[Debo]

Yeah. Hey, bro. So your boys. Miles Garrett, I guess he. He really meant what he said. So by not getting a raise, Miles Garrett would be taking a pay cut in California. So the Browns owed Garrett 179 million from 2026 through 2030. The Rams, oh, Garrett the same 179 million from 26 through 30. Now, given the significant difference in state income tax rate between Ohio and California, 3.125% versus 13.3. Garrett will lose 10% of his gross pay that he would have had in Cleveland. He now loses that because he went over there to la. Hey, look here, man. I'm trying to tell you, man. Look here, man. Hey, man, I thought he was bull fraggle rocking. The man meant what he said last year when he said he want to win. He went on. He could have told them people, hey, man, bump this up to get that disparity out of there. You know, when I come over there, I need that 10 back. But he didn't. He said, hey, I'm over here. I want to win. I'm willing to lose 10 of my money. I'm gonna pay 10 to come over here and win. Joe. Hey, he meant what he said. Joe, Joe, would you, would you go?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

I know you would.

[Joe]

I lived in la, is the end of the day. Debo. I hear you. It's what the weather. I call it the weather tax.

[Debo]

Joe, I understand what you're saying, but

[Joe]

that weather, it's beautiful out there. So 100 was saying.

[Debo]

Are you telling me you're telling me that. Listen, Joe, you telling me that weather's tax you was worth 17.9 to you?

[Joe]

17?

[Debo]

Hello.

[Joe]

Honestly, 17.9. What do you want me to do? If I'm going to LA and I'm making the 40 million more that's getting taxed, that's what's going to happen. But all I know is my portion, that's still going to be fine. That's still going to be fine. I'm going to be in la. I'm going to be out here in the beautiful weather every single day. I'm going to wake up to.

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

Do whatever I want to go do. Beautiful sunshine. I'm going to go out here, win Super Bowls with Matthew Stafford. I'm going to be coached by Sean McVay and guess what? I'm going to run up the bag again. So like Miles isn't really like the most flashy dude like you said. I understand that's 17.9 crazy

[Debo]

over the

[Joe]

45 years of the contract. I understand but which you just not so all, all of the players that go to LA though like you just. I understand that's just what it is. You're going to get taxed because you're in the state of California. So you can't they not paying no more. I mean it's, it's, it's weather tax. He's going over there, he's about to go win some and that's just, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not. If I'm going to California and I'm gonna go out there and play with them and I'm making that 40. And I'm hearing what you're saying with the taxes a thousand percent I'm gonna be sick. But give me mines. Let's go win this.

[Debo]

So, so you go out there happy then

[Joe]

I'm still outside. I'm you not gonna like what I gotta say. I Love. I'm gonna be working for it. I'm gonna be grinding. I hope we gonna go going to go get it. I'm still on the team next season. I'm still getting another 40 after then I did. I'm get taxed again. I'm getting taxed everywhere. You can't help the taxes. So I could try to do get some. Get some write offs, do all of that stuff but get a good tax crew tax.

[Debo]

The hell with that. You ain't get away from recruit.

[Joe]

We gotta figure out a way on the. On another. Go buy them $500,000 tickets and then go write that off and get some tax write offs.

[Debo]

Don't need no tax write off. They taking it now. Joe, when you get paid as a W2, you don't you trying to get back not write it off.

[Joe]

Well, all I know is this Miles is fine. And if I was out there, I would be thinking the same. I'm going to be fine.

[Debo]

Joe. Joe. At 10%.

[Joe]

So with Matthew Stafford. With Matthew Stafford, should he. Should he just get a. Like what. What should he be asking the Rams for more because they're getting taxed more than when he was in Detroit.

[Debo]

Let. Yes, he should. He should make sure he get that percentage on top of. Yes, of course. Who wouldn't? Yes, they traded him over there, right? Okay.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Yes. This trade. When you trade me, son. Hey, you think I'm coming here just to cut. No, you go give me that 10 on top right now.

[Joe]

LA.

[Debo]

I don't give a damn about LA. You Joe, you don't get. Okay. Some people do for $18 million. Joe,

[Joe]

you okay, okay. Debo.

[Debo]

You're.

[Joe]

I'm. I'm gonna go play in LA with my same deal. Go out there and ball out and be chilling. Hope like it's. What was it you said? It's $17 million.

[Debo]

17.9. It's.

[Joe]

It's.

[Debo]

It's 179 million 10 of that 1 million 17.9, Joe.

[Joe]

That's another 4. 4 million a year. So instead of making $40 million a year, it's $36 million.

[Debo]

Stop trying to break down the year and look at the total.

[Joe]

I hear you with the total db.

[Debo]

Now don't forget they go tax. You want some money?

[Joe]

I'm living.

[Debo]

So you go be paying more than that. They got a neighborhood tax. They gotta, they gotta, they gotta.

[Joe]

They got a mansion tab. You sell a car.

[Debo]

They got traffic tax over there. They got road tax for driving on the road.

[Joe]

But guess what the man got okay.

[Debo]

He Got the bag and he about to.

[Joe]

So he could swear.

[Debo]

Once you.

[Joe]

Once you get.

[Debo]

I live.

[Joe]

I. I love la. I love.

[Debo]

I don't. I can't. I can't.

[Joe]

I lived out there for six. I lived six years.

[Debo]

Cuz after that one day I'm in debt. I gotta get home and work for the next two months to get out.

[Joe]

There you go. Why you gotta. Why you gotta do so much every. You could just ride around. Window shopper.

[Debo]

The gas is gonna kill me. I ain't playing nothing, Joe. I gotta sleep somewhere. You want me to sleep on the streets?

[Joe]

No, Debo. I got a crib, see. I had a crib. You could have stayed at the crib.

[Debo]

I didn't know you then there.

[Joe]

You didn't see. I would have had you lit in la.

[Debo]

I don't believe I still ain't got them shoes you was talking about back in 2007.

[Joe]

I did end up getting you some shoes. I did get you some shoes. I got you some. I got you some shoes. I know I did. I got everybody's shoes. I did. I got the whole. See, don't be lying. Don't be lying. I don't know. You got him. I gave him to everybody. I gave everybody.

[Debo]

I wasn't there. You gave him off for Christmas. I wasn't there. I was in. I was in New England.

[Joe]

See? See? Okay. I see, okay, you're right.

[Debo]

Kicked out the playoffs and I was going to the Super Bowl.

[Joe]

Hey, at least we had. They had Js, though. At least I got. Everybody had Js though.

[Debo]

Everybody had their Jays, though. In Cancun

[Joe]

on the way today, on the way to the airport. Everybody had their J's on.

[Debo]

Listen, bro.

[Joe]

Hey, what's up?

[Debo]

Kyler Murray, man. Jj, Ricardo R. Competing for the quarterback for the Vikings quarterback job. So Kyler Murray, he on a one year deal and McCarthy is entering his third year and Justin Jefferson, dude, he had. He had some high words to say about McCarthy.

[Joe]

He.

[Debo]

He said he understands the game, he understands the defense, he understands just how to put touch on the ball just enough to where it gets to where it's got to go without making it difficult for us. So he understands the game a lot more just because he's been in the game for a couple years. For a couple years now. And my mic still working. Did I mess it up?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, you're good.

[Debo]

So he kind of throws the ball before you even get out of that break. Throws you open for sure. He's a smart guy, he's a competitor. Just like me, Joe.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

Yeah, well, hey, what you hear, you know me. Because, you know, you know me. I always read in between lines. Joe, would you. What you hear, Joe? Tell me what that sound like to you, Joe?

[Joe]

It sound like he. It sound like he want that to be his qb. That's what it sounds like to me. It sound like man throwing them open. It sound like he don't know how he hasn't been thrown open too many times before. When you're talking about his throwing them before he comes out of his breaks, it just sounds like a vet. Veteran quarterback. When I went. When I came over from the Browns to the Steelers and I started and not trying to put Kyler Murray in Ben Spur at all, but Ben, when you had a quarterback like that, he's throwing the ball to spots where people need to be to the spot. When he's saying throwing people open. If somebody's on you on the top shoulder and you put it to the back shoulder like just a regular quarter, you have to play a ball placement, and you got to be able to read. You're looking off the linebacker. You want him to go short. So then the dig open up behind you. So you look down and then you throw it to the dig. So there's like, you're. You're manipulating the defenses. You're throwing people open, you're throwing comebacks. When they come out of the break, the ball is already out towards the sideline. So now he just got to throw his hands out, put his feet in. The ball is already here. So I think he's just saying that the vet presence of him putting the ball in places where I don't have the younger quarterbacks waiting. I see him. I have to see him open before I throw the ball. You cannot do that in the National Football League. You have to be able to expect him to be in a spot and throw it time and be able to put it in the spot before the dude gets there. So for me, it sounded like Jefferson is saying that my other man's the other quarter backup. The backup wasn't doing it. And Kyler Murray likes the backup.

[Debo]

You. You made the man the backup already.

[Joe]

I mean, I mean, look, the. The quarterback that we're in competition with.

[Debo]

J.J. oh, you mean it started from last year? Yeah, you said. You said. Becca. Yo, listen. No, I'm reading in between lines. I'm a man like to read in between lines because it's. It's not always about the words you say. It's about the words you don't say. It's not about the things you say. It's about the things you don't say.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Okay. By the things he said, by the things he didn't say, it sound like. It sound like JJ might be out there at OTAs doing that same stuff he was doing last year during the season, because he didn't give any. Ah, he's doing this and doing that, and you know what JJ is. He's actually doing the same thing. So it's. Nope, it ain't. They ain't sound like it. You know, Murray's still. Still youngest for a quarterback was 29. He don't turn 29 to August.

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[Debo]

So. And.

[Joe]

And.

[Debo]

And Jefferson said, you know, it'd be nice to have the same quarterback for a couple years. This might be the opportunity to say, I had the same quarterback for a couple years. He obviously saying that my quarterback ain't gonna be the same quarterback from last year. Already he's saying that without saying it. It'd be nice to have a court. Same quarterback for a couple years. Well, if. If he thought it was gonna be the same quarterback from last year, it already. It'd be a couple years right now. Right. I'm saying, just saying,

[Joe]

he, you know, he's liking. He's putting the ball. He's. He's throwing him open.

[Debo]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

I mean, when you talk. When he starts saying that and he's not saying that about. I mean, maybe the question was how much. How. What is Kyler Murray showing us? Maybe he didn't even have to bring up jj, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to put up one man to put the other one down. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that. I mean, still, he. He understands the game. He understands.

[Debo]

I understand that, but that, that.

[Joe]

But touch on the ball.

[Debo]

All good quarterbacks do that. Obviously, this is something that he hasn't been used to seeing, and he's excited about it.

[Joe]

Yeah, basically. Debo, I'm just trying to not not. Yeah, he's saying he likes you.

[Debo]

Trying not, not what? Trying not to tell the truth.

[Joe]

No, I'm not trying.

[Debo]

You trying not to read into something?

[Joe]

No, I already told. I. I put my man on the bench almost exactly, you know what I'm saying? So what you mean? I'm trying to let him know. I'm trying to let him know. I'm trying to let him know easily how I think he's going down. Justin Jefferson, best receiver, just kind of made Kyler Murray the starter. So I think you makes jj. You might go to the bench.

[Debo]

Don't question, brother. Yeah, let's check out these snap. Let's check out these super chats. Covenant Life. Covenant Life. Back. Hold up. I got a number on there where it's at. Y' all ain't put the number on there. I'm gonna have to go over here to the chat, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Debo]

I'm have to scroll down right here, baby. We got Covenant Life 19. She said y' all probably don't realize, but the joy and laughter you can bring, the joy and laughter you bring can reach people on days they're barely holding it together. Thank you for being more than just athletes and for giving people moments that generally matter. Thank you, Covenant Life.

[Joe]

Thank you, Covenant Life.

[Debo]

She talking about me? Come on, Joe. They used to see you.

[Joe]

No, no, no.

[Debo]

My laughter coming to life. Tell them who you're talking about. Who? Who.

[Joe]

Go ahead and it's gonna. It's gonna piss you off.

[Debo]

Say me. I know she ain't gonna say.

[Joe]

It's all good.

[Debo]

I know she ain't gonna say you yak. We got Stillers Dash. Loyal Mac stillers. Loyal Mac. $10 said the Steelers. Should the Steelers trade make. Ain't nobody gonna trade for Mesa Rudolph. So the Steelers trademates. I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I said that. Listen, let me start on. Should the Steelers trade Mason Rudolph and Will. Will Howard be the number and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three? Or are they. Are the Steelers trying to trade Heist? I don't know about trading Heisman. They already said they got some. They got a way to work that out. See, I'll be stopping in the middle stuff, talking. What part of the defense has you the most hyped? So should the Steelers trade Mason Rudolph and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three? And are the Steelers trying to trade High Smith? What part of the defense has you most hyped? So for me, they're not going to trade Mason Rudolph because I don't think we can get anything for him, to be honest. Who they're going to make one and two, I think, will depend on who does the best in OTA's training camp and all that. And trading Highsmith is not going to happen because they just paid Herbic, and I feel like he's gonna. It's going to be a transition over the next couple years where we keep that group. And, you know, like I said, after that second year, when TJ's guarantee is done, I think he jumps to 40. Something else million that last year and he's going to be 34, 35. I think they releasing you?

[Joe]

I'm going with. I don't know about the trade with Mason. I think will Howard probably be too because we got him before Drew. But then like you said, equal competition. See who's going to be ahead on that spot. Highsmith. No, keep Highsmith. I don't think we're going to trade him. I think where we got. Like you said, we got tj, we got Nick Herbic and we have Highsmith under contract for the next two years. Steelers don't need to get rid of talent that we have. We can still accumulate as much. And then with this D line pressure, three starting real guys, you know what I'm saying? That could really get it done. And then what part. I'm excited about the secondary because I think with the. I just don't. I think the communication. Once we have communication, the body on bodies is people don't always. People aren't making plays on us. When we're in the right position, then it's going to be a lot more to see. So I think with the secondary just being a body on the body, the communication, everybody just being lined up in the right position when the ball is snapped, I think that's what I'm most excited to see.

[Debo]

Yes. Yeah. I'm excited to see the defense, period. To see them under a new scheme, see them communicate, work together. Yes. Coordinated effort where everybody is on the same page. Covenant life back again. 19. I always speak the nicest things I can. When it comes to your true love. Yeah, them janky ass browns. Okay. Benito said the great hope. The great hope gone. Said the great hope is the. The great. Dude, you got to give me full sentences coming to life. You know I have.

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[Debo]

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[Host]

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[Debo]

I insisted first.

[Host]

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[Debo]

Shoot. No.

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[Debo]

Trouble anyway said the great hope gone so I'm out with a big smiles on my face. Can I what the freak?

[Joe]

Can I get one of your brown jerseys or sign football? I got you covered it facts a Browns jersey. Chill out Debo. There you knew see that? Yep. You see that?

[Debo]

I know ain't nobody talking to you.

[Joe]

I told you.

[Debo]

Close your mouth. I'm talking to her. What you talking about? A Browns jersey? Yeah, that's what I would send somebody to go burn up that.

[Joe]

Can I get one of your brown jerseys or sign football?

[Debo]

You. He send you a brown shirt. You send me my Steeler jersey back.

[Joe]

Nope. See? Covered it.

[Debo]

You.

[Joe]

You could. You did that. You did that. You let him know. I. I told you. I told you. Debo

[Debo]

cover the life back again. Oh, Lord, she said, let me see, let me see. Drake London signed a four year extension for 141 million with the Rams. We need Porter to silence him on our first game. Or Dean somebody. Will Anderson said the Texans have Super bowl caliber players. We can let them run us down like before.

[Joe]

You Drake. Drake London from the Atlanta Falcons. Signed when with Rams. Hold up, man.

[Debo]

We letting come to life run us astray?

[Joe]

No, no, no. I'm saying four year,

[Debo]

okay.

[Joe]

No, she said he signed the deal with the Falcons.

[Debo]

Who did?

[Joe]

Drake London. Drake London.

[Debo]

Okay, so your deal with the Falcons. Yes, a contract extension. Got you. Okay.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

So we need. Okay, I got you. Dean somebody. Who's Dean somebody.

[Joe]

35 million a year. Who you talking about?

[Debo]

Do we. She won, Will.

[Joe]

Oh, you know our corner. Our corner that we signed Dean, He's. So we played the receiver. Wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. He just signed a big deal for $35 million per year. We must play the Falcons. She's saying, I don't think we play the Falcons.

[Debo]

Don't we play Atlanta? I thought we. I mean, I'm sorry. I thought we played the Texans. Why am I drawing a blank on this? Oh, opening game. See, it's at home. Come on. You got us on that one. So you threw me off coming to life. You gave me some wrong information. You gave me some right information. Now you got me thinking about the Texans. Like, don't we play the Texas too? I thought we played the Texans too. Yes, we do. Yeah, because I was looking at that one. I know we got to play them boys again. Because I was like, yo, we got to go ahead and get that. Get back. Now that we got, we're gonna have a strong defense with us. That's gonna be coordinated effort. Offense, two run game we go. Be there. For sure. We over here, we got J Dub, Akron, $10. He said, Debo, back a while. You were. Been a while, Debo. Damn it, dude, been a while. I'm up bad, ain't I, Devo? Been a while. You were cool with my boys. Years Back we came to camp back in 05 and got your number. Was supposed to hang out, but life got in the way and you blew up. Keep grinding, bro. Hashtag 330Strong. You don't know nothing about that 330,

[Joe]

Joe, man, I honestly don't.

[Debo]

The 330? What are you talking about? That's Akron. AK Rowdy Roddy, west side. Some county is right down the street.

[Joe]

Shout out, go ahead. Okay. Don't bang on me, Debo.

[Debo]

Man, don't make me throw up that 330.

[Joe]

Crazy.

[Debo]

Make me throw up that 330. Let me throw up that three. Three zero. He said, he said, he said I blew up and then I, I. That was it.

[Joe]

He blew up and then you just blew up and done. Now I'm a dog.

[Debo]

He said, he said I blew up. I ain't gonna lie to you. If you met me in 05,

[Joe]

I didn't want.

[Debo]

You met me.

[Joe]

I did not want to tell you. Nope.

[Debo]

He met me in 05. In 05. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I had five phones

[Joe]

got, see, Trapped up, bro, you got.

[Debo]

I did not know where I was. Don't need more than you don't need more than one. I was trapping for show. I didn't know if I was gonna be in the league long. I had to do what I had to do.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Debo]

See, I was making two grand a month.

[Joe]

Gosh, you did what?

[Debo]

Two grand a month, Joe. I was on practice squad. Whoa. I'm out. Yo, I'm saying, yo, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I was changing my number as like. Like I was changing my number more than I was changing my underwear, bro. And I changed them every day.

[Joe]

Shot to be more.

[Debo]

I'm trying to tell you, Joe, man. So. So by then, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I don't had. Probably had at least a 15, 20 phones since then. I had five at one time, you know, I didn't change my number so much. I can't even remember numbers no more, man. Be like, man, what this? I don't know.

[Joe]

I never. I never had more than one phone, though, you know what I'm saying?

[Debo]

You was drafted, Joe. Money, other ways.

[Joe]

Wow. I'm you. You were in the league.

[Debo]

I had what?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

I gotta re up. I'm getting this right here. Now. I could go re up.

[Joe]

Wow. I see you had a plan B. Wild man B.

[Debo]

Before the A even started.

[Joe]

I didn't get. See, there you go. You know what I'm Saying the good. I hear you, Debo. And that don't mean you got to. Don't mean you got to be crazy. I wasn't. I ain't get caught. You were. You're. The story you said about my man's.

[Debo]

What, man? You going.

[Joe]

Your man's that was in there trying to drink it.

[Debo]

Listen, Joe, that's a different story.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

You know what happened.

[Joe]

See, that's what. That's what I'm saying. Stories you have. This is your real life. You are wild.

[Debo]

That was my real life joke was. Listen, that situation.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Was what it was. He knew what he did. Actually Myra hit me up, dude. He actually hit me up on my grand. Yeah, yeah. Did I send you that? Yeah, yeah, he hit me up, man. You know, he said he. He thought. Hey, he was like, yo, that's. That was funny, dude. Like, I wasn't gonna do nothing to him. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he hadn't drank it, I mean, I wouldn't have killed him. I'd have had to at least shoot him.

[Joe]

No, no, I know you wouldn't. I know you would. I know you. I know you wouldn't like. No, I had.

[Debo]

But.

[Joe]

But you would have pistol whipped him.

[Debo]

I know. I had to at least shoot him. I'd had to leave. Shoot.

[Joe]

No, Debo, you wouldn't have shot him on campus.

[Debo]

If I didn't. If I didn't my rep, my. What do I'm gonna do? Idle threat.

[Joe]

Then if you didn't, then you just spake.

[Debo]

If he had to drink, I'd have had at least grazing, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, man, he gonna run up out of there. You know, I thought I had probably bust a couple air.

[Joe]

Bye.

[Host]

Bye.

[Debo]

Like I was still trying to get him.

[Joe]

I promise you. Yeah, see, I'm not. I couldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to really hang out with you.

[Debo]

Hey, what are you talking about?

[Joe]

No, I'm saying back in the day.

[Debo]

Back in the day, that person was different. Joy. That was not a saved man, Joe.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Debo]

That was not a save man.

[Joe]

Come on, Debo, you are a wild.

[Debo]

I'm not. Listen, you are. Listen, I'm just trying to tell you that's why you didn't have my number. That's all I was trying to say. You went somewhere else with it, man. You done made the people think that I ain't a good person, man. I'm a good person, man.

[Joe]

No, Debo, you are A really good person, bro. A thousand percent wild man for show, though.

[Debo]

Hey, look here.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

We got 50 Mexican. Oh, why did I say that?

[Joe]

Let's go.

[Debo]

That's right. It's a Mexican.

[Joe]

Mexican.

[Debo]

I don't know. Okay. All right. $50. Yeah. Okay. Carlos Alvarez. 704 4. Debo. Rocking. Great.

[Joe]

Laura shirt.

[Debo]

Yes, sir. Joe Jo.

[Joe]

Say, Joe, I wasn't high for my disposition.

[Debo]

How, how, Joe, how about you? Oh, get a blunt hat. Next.

[Joe]

Whoa.

[Debo]

That's called a cowboy hat. A blunt hat.

[Joe]

Oh, I got not, not the blunt.

[Debo]

What are you thinking, Joe? Oh, my God.

[Joe]

Yeah, I didn't know what he was. I'm like, dang, man. You wanted me with the leaf hat. On, on. Just.

[Debo]

Yo, hold on, Joe. I'll be right back. Hold on, hold on.

[Joe]

Just the whole, just the whole cannabis, you know what I'm saying? I, I can't do that. That was diabolical. All right. What's up? Coveted. Okay, we got another one from coveted 19. Coveted life. I like causing friction with both of you. I also know as being messy when it comes to who is we. See, that's why I, I, I'm, I messed up with the week because sometimes Debo.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, you messed that up, man.

[Joe]

Sometimes. See, hey, man, hold on, hold on. Who is we? That's a blunt. That's a blunt. That's a cowboy.

[Debo]

Hey, male blunt. Now you understand Green Lord, right here.

[Joe]

Talking about Mel Blunt.

[Debo]

Okay, you're talking about a blunt. See, look at you.

[Joe]

I don't do.

[Debo]

I don't know nothing about no drugs. I don't even know what the blood is. Somebody told me what it was. She said she like causing friction with the both of us. Joe, as you know,

[Joe]

I'm a finished cup. I'm a finished color. I'm gonna finish.

[Debo]

Go ahead.

[Joe]

Being messed up when it comes to who is we. Joe, I love you both. And I love our. Not Joe's, but our Steelers. Yes, Debo, because he is going in the hall of Fame jersey, please.

[Debo]

I reckon, I reckon we can forgive you on this one, considering he is a, a good, loyal friend of mine. Now consider him to be my brother a thousand percent. You know, I, I, I love my I, I whooping ass and maybe kill somebody over, too. So I reckon, I reckon you right. Hey, hey, Joe, I' ma need, I need one of them Browns jerseys, too. I guess I reckon I'll put it

[Joe]

up there die, too.

[Debo]

You put it on my bottom shelf. Maybe on my floor as a, you know, I'm uploading.

[Joe]

I'm gonna put it somewhere where you can see it.

[Debo]

Oh, I reckon. I reckon we got something going good right here. Boy, look here. Yeah, we got another one right here in this chat. Right there. Five dollar. It said. You guys are great. How many wins do Distillers get this season? How many wins the Steelers get this season? Love your content. What you say, Joe? I reckon I let you say. What you. What you think go happen first?

[Joe]

I reckon.

[Debo]

You reckon? What you reckon? Now

[Joe]

it's gonna be third? 30.

[Debo]

13.

[Joe]

Ah, 12 and 13. 12. 13.

[Debo]

Hey, I reckon. I reckon you were in the right range, but I'm gonna give them two more.

[Joe]

Oh, you going 15 to 2.

[Debo]

15, 2.

[Joe]

All right.

[Debo]

Ain't gonna be no worse than 13.

[Joe]

13 at least. I went 12. I'm gonna go 12 at least. But mine, 13 for real. 13 to 4. Yep. Them boys gonna get it. I already know because now I'm geek. I already know what it is. I'm my brand. I'm shooting for 10 over there. And now I know for us over here for the Steelers, 13 minimum, 12 minutes.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Well, I. I reckon, ladies and gentlemen, that's all about all the time we got right now. We want to show enough appreciate you guys and tell you how much we care and appreciate you guys coming on and watching us every day. You know that we on here on that Monday, Tuesday and Friday interacting with us and having a good old, good old time, good old showdown, you know?

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Yes, yes.

[Debo]

You know. And Joe, Joe.

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Yo, Like Debo said, I appreciate everybody giving on, tapping in with us. And we will be here same time, same place on.

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All right, now. We gonna see y' all around there. Howdy.

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