Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Browns Schedule Release + Is Coach Prime Too Involved With Shedeur?

Summary

Nightcap Podcast Summary

Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Browns Schedule Release + Is Coach Prime Too Involved With Shedeur?

Date: May 15, 2026
Hosts: Shay Shay Media, Playmaker (Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)
Main Guests: Debo & Joe

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Episode Overview

In this lively Nightcap episode, Debo and Joe break down the NFL headlines with a focus on the Cleveland Browns’ 2026 schedule and the persistent question of Aaron Rodgers’ potential impact on the Steelers. The second half is dominated by a spirited discussion about Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders’ involvement with his son Shedeur’s transition to the NFL, sparking debate over boundaries and support as a parent and coach. The episode is rich with banter, passionate sports takes, and cultural commentary about football, family, and legacy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aaron Rodgers and Steelers Patience

Timestamps: 02:37–08:55

• Media Buzz: The hosts discuss NFL Media’s Tom Pelissero suggesting the Steelers' patience with Aaron Rodgers’ indecision might be running out.
• Joe’s Take: Joe pushes back, calling out “uneducated fans” and media hype, arguing that internal patience among team brass isn’t as strained as the narrative suggests.
  • Quote:

    “The only people that's losing patience is all of your reporters and analysts that are trying to anticipate and predict Aaron Rodgers... What is Aaron’s next—this is what Aaron’s going to do.” – Joe (05:00)

• Development Time for Young QBs: Joe speculates that the Steelers may not be rushing Rodgers because it’s preparation time for their young quarterbacks—“it's a great time of the year for young guys” (06:13).
• OTAs Not a Must for Veterans: Debo and Joe agree that established players like Rodgers don’t need to participate in OTAs, as he’s “another coach on the field.” (08:00)
• Speculation on Steelers’ Strategy: Joe wonders if the team’s extending an offer just as a backup plan, not a certain desire to bring Rodgers in—and will sweeten the deal only if necessary. (09:05)
  • Quote:

    “What if [the] Steelers are making an offer or made an offer to keep the communications together... and maybe they're in the process of trying to see what they have at the quarterback position...” – Joe (09:06)

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2. Browns Schedule Break Down & Predictions

Timestamps: 10:48–25:00

• Week-by-Week Predictions: Debo and Joe go through the Browns’ 2026 schedule, predicting game outcomes and debating the team’s ceiling.
• Highlight Matches:
  • Browns vs. Jaguars (Week 1) – Debo picks a win but later admits it could be a toss-up.
  • Split series with Steelers predicted.
  • Notable confidence against Panthers, Jets, Titans, Saints, Raiders, Falcons, Giants, Colts.
• Win Totals:
  • Debo initially argues for a 10–7 record, later famously claims nine wins are “for sure” (23:48).
  • Joe (Steelers fan bias) scoffs at Debo’s high optimism.
• Browns’ Unlucky Past: Debo stresses the Browns should have won more games last year, blaming fluky red zone misses and special teams issues.
  • Quote:

    “We should have won eight last—I got 10. We could have won eight last year. Flukishly missing stuff in the end zone...” – Debo (18:00)

• Best/Worst Case Scenarios:
  • Debo: "8–11 wins" range
  • Joe: Steelers will go "13–16 wins" (39:00)
  • Quote:

    “Listen. I’m saying 13 and four worst. 16 and one best.” – Co-host (39:01)

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3. Deion Sanders and Shedeur: Parental Involvement

Timestamps: 25:54–34:50

• Coach Prime's Comments: Discussion of Deion Sanders’ claim his son “has scars on his back” from his rookie season – misunderstood by some as literal; clarified it’s metaphorical for the tough journey.
  • Quote:

    “When he takes off his shirt, I see the scars on his back... He’s been through hell, but he’s made it through hell.” – Deion Sanders via Joe (25:54)

• Should Coaches Reach Out to Deion? The hosts debate whether Browns coaches should seek Deion’s input on Shedeur’s tendencies.
  • Debo points out Deion isn't just Shedeur's dad but also his college coach, so it’s natural to seek guidance from him just as with any other coach.
  • Joe and co-host advocate for consulting Deion for inside knowledge, “coaching is motivation.”
• Public Perception Double Standard: They lament that if this were “Archie Manning and Peyton,” it would be seen as patriotic football wisdom instead of a dynasty overstep.
  • Quote:

    “I just want people to start looking at the Deion and Shador situation not so negatively... if it’s Archie Manning and somebody hits up Peyton Manning... That’s a good thing.” – Debo (55:46)

• Parental Boundaries/Athlete Maturity: A super chat question prompts debate over when to “release” children to adulthood and let them operate independently in their careers.
  • Hosts stand by mentorship/coaching, especially when the parent is an expert in the field.
  • Co-host/Commentator:

    “I got dad that is the coach – Hall of Famer at that! I’m a bend your ear, bro... I’m gonna call and say, ‘What do I need to do to get in his ass?’” (42:50)

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4. Life Lessons: Parenting, Discipline, and Manhood

Timestamps: 47:11–51:51

• Discipline at Home vs. World: An impromptu dialogue on why discipline at home prepares kids for a world that “does not love you.”
• Teaching Respect and Accountability: Co-hosts share methods about staying involved, telling teachers to call “the first time” something goes wrong.
  • Quotes:

    “It's called discipline, and kids need discipline. I'm raising two boys that need to become men. I am not about to allow them to do anything that is out of character.” – Co-host (48:32)

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5. Audience Interaction & Culture

Timestamps: 37:00–56:53

• Super Chats: Fans weigh in on the Browns’ likely improvement, whether parents should be involved in grown children’s careers, and the double standard around Deion Sanders.
• Hosts’ Rebuttals:
  • They argue wanting insight from Deion is rational given his expertise, and again note similar actions have been celebrated in non-Black football families.
• Motivation, Coaching, and Growth:
  • Joe:

    “If you can’t motivate your players, you can’t get them to their potential... I was coached beyond my potential by great coaches.” (54:38)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Rodgers’ Absence:

  “It’s not like we gonna pull a A-Rod along. No, no, no. A-Rod’s gonna be fine.” – Debo (08:55)

• On Browns’ Realistic Hopes:

  “Somehow one of those 10 wins.” – Debo (18:08)

• On Parental Involvement & Culture:

  “If it’s Archie Manning and somebody hits up Peyton Manning... That’s a good thing.” – Debo (55:56)

• On Disciplining Kids:

  “It’s easier for me to teach you now so that somebody else out there don’t teach you the hard way.” – Joe (50:20)

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Episode Flow & Tone

The episode is direct, energetic, playful, and unapologetically opinionated—hallmarks of a Shay Shay/Playmaker production. Debo and Joe run through NFL news with a fan’s passion, layer in their experiences and cultural observations, and always bring the discussion back to the real-world impacts on young athletes, families, and communities.

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Useful Timestamps (MM:SS)

• Aaron Rodgers’ impact & Steelers take: 02:37–10:47
• Browns Schedule Predictions: 10:48–25:00
• Coach Prime & Shedeur Debate: 25:54–34:50, 41:14–56:53
• Parenting & Discipline Reflection: 47:11–51:51
• Audience Q&A / Super Chats: Throughout, but especially 37:00, 41:14, 53:14

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Conclusion

This Nightcap episode is a rich mix of NFL breakdowns, locker room wisdom, and deeper talk about mentorship and legacy. Whether you’re a Browns diehard, a Steelers skeptic, or just here for the dynamic between legendary hosts who blend sports with real-life, the episode delivers essential commentary and plenty to debate until the next kickoff.

Transcript

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So it is said by. What's this guy's name, Tom? NFL Media. Pelissero. Yep. He said at some point the patience is going to run out. It's currently seems like, well, Aaron Rodgers decisions. It says Aaron Rodgers decision delay could cause Steelers to run out of patience. I don't believe it. NFL media Tom, whatever that dude name is, Pellicero. He said at some point patience is going to run out. It certainly seems like the patience for the Steelers fans, just based on feedback I get every time I talk about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, because you keep talking about it may. I've already be running out for some people, for Art Rooney II, for Mike McCarthy, who's trying to get the team ready on the field, that patience, that patience may be tested. He said. I don't believe that has happened yet. If they don't have something in place by the start of next week, I think we get there, bruh.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Debo]

You know what you're talking. Who.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Who is we?

[Joe]

You ain't. You ain't Art Rooney II or Mike McCarthy.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And last time I heard, you didn't

[Joe]

work for the Steelers, bro. Nope. First, the Steelers, they got three other quarterbacks over there in a room right now. Stuff. They ain't. They ain't just sitting there doing nothing. You make like if Aaron don't show, the Steelers are going to, you know, forfeit the season. It's over with. They're going to forfeit the season. It's over.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All y' all make like that. Y', all, y', all, y'.

[Joe]

All, y' all reporters and analysts and all that stuff. Y' all ain't got nothing else to do because, like, it's nothing, like, for y' all to talk about, I guess, other than Aaron. I guess that's the big thing. I mean, I wouldn't.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I would agree that maybe, like, some fans have run out of patience, but I would have to say that would

[Joe]

be like more of, like, our. Sorry to say this people, uneducated fans that are, like, out there and just can't, like, read the room and understand and just, you know, listening to what y' all write because y' all supposed to have some true knowledge of what's, you know, going on in the rally. And the reality is, like, the only people that's losing patience is all of your reporters and analysts that are trying to anticipate and predict Aaron Rodgers. What Aaron Rodgers is going to do. Like, what is Aaron's next. This is what Aaron's going to do.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And if he don't do it.

[Joe]

They're going to get pissed off. No,

[Co-host/Commentator]

they already stayed and that Tinder

[Joe]

was a training camp.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They said that man got all the way into a training camp. He got all the way into training camp. And I think that was on purpose. Why, why would that be on purpose, Joe?

[Joe]

Because you got these young quarterbacks. You got the young quarterback, you got Will Howard, you got Drew Allen. Now you can go ahead and you

[Co-host/Commentator]

can see what they look like.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Yep.

[Joe]

Like what?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, I don't, I don't know. Like tell I could be wrong. What do we know? It wasn't like we had like a

[Joe]

GM or something on the show that said, you know, maybe on Tuesday that it's. Oh, he said, quote, it's a great time of the year for young guys.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What? What?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

What?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Joe, you say that? What does that mean, Joe? It's a great time. Oh, that's because that gives his young guys an opportunity to grow, develop, see

[Joe]

what they could do.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, Tom Pelissel, why didn't you report that?

[Joe]

I don't know, because it didn't fit your demographic.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's, I mean, like you had the words, you know, the actual. I believe it's.

[Joe]

It's Omar Khan, right? GM Omar Khan.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's. That's who we talked to on Tuesday.

[Joe]

I'm just trying to make sure that's

[Co-host/Commentator]

who we talk to.

[Debo]

So we going through this for moving on. We're not going to listen to anybody else talking about Aaron Rodgers because it's all opinion based and we know right now nothing's going to happen. And until at least training camp. So until A Rod signs the contract, we know what it is. Right now we're doing everything they gotta do to work the young boys, they're getting all those reps and OTAS vets, same time they don't come. Sometimes they just don't come to OTAs. Like that's not mandatory when you know what's going on, you know, divide, you get there, you're gonna come in, you're gonna perform. Training camp legitimately is when it is OTAs for sure. I would want people to be there,000%. You want your guys, you wanna get growing. I A Rod's a different dude. He didn't do it last year. He didn't go. Probably doesn't go to OTAs all the time. He's. You talk about the knowledge of the playbook, he'll learn that playbook. He's seen all the playbooks, he knows all the routes, all the combinations. He's another coach on the field. So him being able to get into the feel of it is going to be a lot quicker than a rookie or a second year guy that doesn't know, doesn't know schemes, hasn't played in the NFL, doesn't know what's going on. So for him right now with the Steelers, keep doing what you're doing, developing our young dudes, trying to get them ready to play a rod. Hopefully he signs before training camp, he's on his own time. We know what it is. But when he gets out there, he's a pros pro. He's going to do nothing but trying to get right, get everybody together. So understand that. But the Steelers, they already, they know what it is. They know who they're dealing with. They're not the media just trying to, oh, what's going on? A rock. They're chilling, they got a plan. They're growing, developing their young dudes. They and the thought of a rod coming. But when he gets here, they know he's able to jump on and get moving quick. There's not no lot of L, but a we got, we know exactly what's going on. We know where it stands. We got to get the defense, we got to get these young quarterbacks, we got to make sure everybody knows what's going on on the team now. Because when a rod gets here, he's. It's not like we gonna pull a, a rod along. No, no, no, a rod's gonna be fine. He's gonna be.

[Joe]

Look here, you know, I like to think what up? And I've just been thinking that

[Co-host/Commentator]

what

[Joe]

if, you know, I'm just like I told you, my mind goes everywhere. What if Distillers are making a offer or made an offer to keep the communications together, keep it up and going. And that's in the process. Just to, you know, keep everything cordial. It's not a definite that they want him back or it's not a definite that they don't want him back. And maybe they're in the process of trying to see what they have at the quarterback position and to see if maybe they have what they, they need already and this is a safety net, so to speak, that they will use if it becomes necessary through the process, which is why they tendered him like they did because he couldn't go nowhere after the season started so he would have no one left but them to negotiate with. And now again, as I said before, I don't think Aaron plays for what the offer is. But if they get to a Situation where they're kind of unsure they can maybe sweeten the offer and then get him to come in and sign it sooner. That's just me thinking a lot, you know?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I don't know.

[Joe]

You know, I'm just. I'm just looking. I'm looking every direction. You know what I'm saying? Always looking every direction, y'.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All. What we gonna do, though? We're gonna go.

[Joe]

Going over here to this. This Browns, this brown schedule.

[Debo]

Yes, that's what we gonna do, so. Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Tell me about this round. Schedule. Week one, Joe.

[Debo]

Jacksonville, number one week of schedule in the league. Yes, I'm excited. What you got at Jackson? We spend our first two weeks.

[Joe]

Come on, Come on.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What you got? What you got? What you got? What you got?

[Joe]

What you got right there, Joe?

[Debo]

See, we got to see. Okay, I got us. I got us winning, beating Jacksonville.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You got y' all beating Jacksonville.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Okay, Joe, first game of the season.

[Joe]

First one.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I want to write this down.

[Joe]

Damn. Okay, now what you got?

[Debo]

Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay. Okay, we may lose to Tampa Bay.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Yeah, you know we may lose.

[Joe]

Okay, go ahead.

[Debo]

Okay, right there, we 101 Carolina Panthers. Okay, we're going to. We're. We're going to beat the Panthers.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Debo]

So right now. We are right now. Okay. Thursday Night Football versus the Steelers. This might. This going to be the one of Steelers. This might be. This is going to be a Steelers game right here. So we're two and two.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay.

[Debo]

Jets got him out the way.

[Joe]

You'll get just. I got you. Okay, I go with that. I go with that. I go with that. First one, we got Baltimore.

[Debo]

Baltimore at the crib. Baltimore at the crib. Week six, we got Baltimore.

[Joe]

Okay,

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[Joe]

Got Tennessee.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Next

[Debo]

Titans. Matter of fact. Matter of fact, I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take the. The Ravens now. We. We're gonna win that. We winning that. And we're gonna be. We're gonna beat the Titans, too. Five and two, Stillers, you beating.

[Joe]

You beating the Titans and. And you beating Baltimore and Tennessee.

[Debo]

Well, all right. Honestly, I. I. Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Okay. I just. I'm just asking questions. I'm just. I'm just making sure. I'm gonna make sure I got this range, Joe. So we.

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[Co-host/Commentator]

We. We over here right now on week eight. You back. You back with. You back in.

[Joe]

You back in Pittsburgh.

[Debo]

We split it because y' all won the first one.

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[Debo]

So we won this.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You go, you go. You go. You go. Split it at our house.

[Joe]

That's crazy. Okay, go ahead. No, I'm gonna mark it down. I'm working on. This is. This is your stuff with your team. Anyway, go ahead. Tonight go to week nine New Orleans Joe.

[Debo]

Saints at. Matter of fact, Saints. No, the Saints. We gonna beat the Saints.

[Joe]

Okay. You gonna beat the Saints?

[Debo]

Lose to Houston.

[Joe]

Lose Houston. Okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You gotta buy a week then.

[Debo]

Yep. So what are we right now?

[Joe]

It don't matter what you are. Just keep going. You got Vegas next.

[Debo]

Be in Vegas.

[Joe]

You got Atlanta. No, sorry. You got Cincinnati.

[Debo]

Cincinnati. We probably. We might lose this one.

[Joe]

Okay, then you got Atlanta beating Atlanta,

[Debo]

beating New York, losing to the Ravens.

[Joe]

We're about to beat.

[Debo]

Beating the Colts. What look like right now?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I don't care. You got one game left.

[Joe]

Cincinnati at Cincinnati.

[Debo]

It's depending on what we need for the playoff position.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, if y' all need to win, y' all gonna win.

[Debo]

That sound like you. We might be resting. We might be resting, huh?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I got 11 wins already, Joe, you ain't gonna be able to rest because we gonna have 13.

[Debo]

That's 11. Okay, honestly. Honestly, when I'm just picking it out, going like that. I really like us at. That's a lot. 10, 10 wins. For real? 10 wins.

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[Debo]

Somehow one of those 10 wins.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, you got 10 wins.

[Debo]

10 wins is not 10 wins. And 7 losses. That's not.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So 10 to 7.

[Joe]

That's your record. That's what you're going with?

[Debo]

10 and 7. Because I might have mixed up a little one. Like a little.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Okay. You know, I mixed those up for sure. You know, I think the first one, y' all might. Y' all probably win tonight. The. You don't. I don't know we're gonna split. I just know we're gonna split. I just know we're gonna split it. I don't know how we gonna split it. We just.

[Joe]

I'm just trying to figure out.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They got y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They got. They.

[Joe]

They said from this, the weakest schedule in the league, they got y' all at six or seven games.

[Debo]

Winning six or seven games. That's. That's. They. Listen, that's fine. We could. We should have won eight last. I got 10. We could have won eight last year. Flukishly missing stuff in the end zone. Just. That's part of.

[Joe]

That's part of what they. That's part of Browning.

[Debo]

But our way this time, you know, we got better offense, we got better offensive line. We got a whole nother year in. Our defense is still nice. Special teams. Now we're gonna put Casey Concepcion back there. Please do pump return and kick returns. Get the ball in his hands. Our special teams wasn't doing that well last year with our defense balling like this. And now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, your special teams were selling and

[Joe]

your defense was selling sometimes, too.

[Debo]

Sometimes. That's what I'm saying. The same thing you talking about. I'm glad if the best case scenarios with those players that we have on the Steelers, I mean on the Browns defense and the players that we have now on the Browns offense that has been subpar. Subpar. Like give us a real live team where we can actually go out there. Let's score 30 a game. Let's go. Let's go 30 in the game. Let's go 23. Let's just walk around walking there. Three touchdowns. Not too much to ask. Let's do that. And our defense holds it down. Special teams does what they got to do. Like our team. They look at the Browns crazy because last year special teams wasn't that good. But our defense is always on.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not always.

[Debo]

Defense has been solid.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They've been solid. No question.

[Joe]

But you said always know they sold a couple times.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They sold a couple times where I thought I could. I could. I could buy.

[Joe]

And they sold on me.

[Dr. Jake Goodman]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Yes. But this year is when I'm talking best case scenarios. That's what I heard through you. We went Steelers went 8 and 0 off the rip. You got 13 and 3. Me having 10 and 7. I don't think it's crazy.

[Joe]

I'm just saying, Joe sounds crazy to me.

[Debo]

It's going to be dependent on these division games and how we pop off if we gonna get into the playoffs or not. Cause I'm like the Steelers, obviously, I'm not getting. Still is going to beat the Ravens, beat them up both times, beat up the Bengals both times, split it with the Browns. So y' all are automatically in. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, my.

[Joe]

I don't think you.

[Debo]

What's up?

[Joe]

You.

[Debo]

You who y' all not talking crazy?

[Co-host/Commentator]

So how many times y' all beating the Ravens and how many times y'

[Debo]

all beating the Bangles Listen, I'm not talking about that. We beat him before. That's all that matters. I don't have Joe.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Ain't we going through telling me what games you go win and lose? I think that's what we was doing. Ain't that what we doing? I'm lost if I'm. If I'm wrong.

[Debo]

Oh, I thought. I thought you was talking about.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I thought what I was asking.

[Debo]

I thought you was talking about. I thought you was talking about in the history.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm just asking where you see the wins at right now. I don't care about history. You got a new coach. I got a new coach. You got a new staff. We got a new staff. Yes, tell me.

[Debo]

And that's why I like.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Who you stomping on 10 to 7, 11 to 6. What we talking about, Joe? You stomping on somebody?

[Debo]

We. It's at Jacksonville. Does concern me to start off the season, they're not a bad team at all. They gonna be out there ready. So. So I want to see how we start.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You going back through the whole schedule now, huh?

[Debo]

No, no, no. I'm just trying to. Cause I was trying to figure out where I thought we was going to get them, make sure. I wanted to know where we was going to get them. Exact wins and losses. Jacksonville. That one kind of scares me a little bit.

[Co-host/Commentator]

But you said the exacts, so that win ain't exact no more.

[Debo]

The exact win we gonna get for show.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What's the show?

[Debo]

I'm counting up the shows. Week three, Carolina for show. Week five, jets for show. Week seven, Tennessee for show. Week nine, New Orleans for sure. Bye. Week, win for sure.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is that. That don't go on the list.

[Debo]

I know. I'm just saying we ain't playing. So we won. I count that as a duck versus the Raiders.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Dub.

[Debo]

Okay, that's week 12, Falcons. Dub. New York Giants. Week 15.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Dub.

[Joe]

I don't know that one, but. Okay.

[Debo]

How many is that?

[Joe]

That's seven right there.

[Debo]

That's seven. And then we got the Colts. And to finish the season, last game of the season is the Bengals. So what's that right there?

[Joe]

Damn. That's nine now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's nine for sure.

[Debo]

That's gt. That's nine for sure. That's nice.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Record this and make sure y' all bring this back, because that's nine for sures.

[Debo]

I'm gonna got you nine for sures.

[Joe]

Man, that's crazy. Wow.

[Debo]

And that's. That's. And that's just only with one division.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You count Books that ain't even there, huh?

[Debo]

I didn't say.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know, sometimes you don't pay attention. Maybe you ain't paying attention to the table.

[Joe]

Look at the schedule again, Joe.

[Debo]

I look, I'm looking right at it. This the, the best part about it is, Debo. The best part about this is we actually get to come and talk about it after it happens, week by week.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

You're gonna be able to sit there. Just that you talk. That I'm gonna be able to talk about too, and all that. Boy, that you like this. Hey, Joe. Yeah? How about you talking about them Jacksonville Jaguars, right? Yeah, I'm gonna be sitting right here taking it in the same way. The game's got to be played, Debo. Me and you ain't got no cleats.

[Co-host/Commentator]

This is true.

[Joe]

It's true. It's true, man. The game, the game.

[Debo]

All this right now. I'm speaking for somebody else. I'm speaking for somebody else to come out there and put. And put they. And put their foot. Well put. And do. Do what I'm trying to do for me. I'm talking for them and they got to go out there and I understand

[Joe]

what you're saying, but I hope, I hope they listen. I know they listening. I know they listening. The Raiders go stump the Browns,

[Co-host/Commentator]

you

[Joe]

know, they got a Crosby over there. You know he ain't go to Baltimore, right?

[Debo]

And I'm not disrespecting Cross. He's a. He's a dog, okay? He's a dog. He.

[Joe]

Oh, you saying the quarterback ain't and

[Co-host/Commentator]

go get it done.

[Joe]

I understand.

[Debo]

Oh, my God. We're gonna, we're gonna see, we're gonna see what the young man does.

[Joe]

You know what I'm saying?

[Debo]

We're gonna see what little, little Fernando go out there and do.

[Joe]

Wow. Little Fernando.

[Debo]

Young bull. He's a rookie. He's a young. He's a young bull. Drew Aller, Young Bull, you know.

[Joe]

Goodness, goodness, goodness. So we're gonna stay over here in Cleveland.

[Debo]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Man. Deion Sanders said his son Shador went through hell during a tribulate pre draft process and rookie season with the Browns. This man said when he takes off his shirt, I see the scars on his back, that he's been through hell, but he's made it through hell. A lot of things that was said, it bothered me, but it didn't bother him. I just wanted the opportunity to get on. He just wanted the opportunity to get on the grass and do his thing. Yes. Yo, I'm Misreading this.

[Debo]

What's up?

[Joe]

He takes off his shirt. I see the scars on his back.

[Debo]

I see the scars on his back. He's been through hell.

[Joe]

But he made it.

[Debo]

But he's made it through.

[Joe]

I don't. I don't know.

[Debo]

He's saying that people was talking trash about. He's not.

[Co-host/Commentator]

This is not a real thing.

[Debo]

It's not. It's not literal scars.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, bruh. I'm like, what the hell are they doing?

[Debo]

Know my son Take off his.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Should I see the scars on your back, bro? That's like slave with a whip type words, bro.

[Debo]

He's.

[Joe]

Yeah, he's.

[Debo]

He's. Yeah, he's like, speaking. Yeah, yeah, but. But not. Not literally. Not literally, bro. I was about to.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I lose.

[Debo]

I know. For sure. For sure. Traffic. No.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You thought they was laughing. No, sir.

[Debo]

Oh, he. The D.A. been pulled up.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Come on, Deo.

[Debo]

Okay. What? That whole spot would have been. Come on, Debo, right? They ain't really smacking. Oh, my gosh.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Come on. That's a little much. That's a little. I don't know, Prime. That's a little much, bro. That's a little much. We gotta. We gotta reword that. Oh, you know,

[Debo]

they talking. They talking about it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I understand that, bro, but I ain't. I ain't never seen somebody put some scars on my son. I had scars on my back, bro. Real life scars in a fight, like, with four, five people, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's a real thing.

[Debo]

Yeah. They tried to jump up on you. No, no, no.

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[Pharmacist Amy Lynn Safety Valentine]

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[Dr. Jake Goodman]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

Ha. 100%.

[Debo]

Oh yes.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes, bruh. Like that's real.

[Debo]

Okay, okay, Trust me, I feel you. But I'm letting you know he was speaking in between the lines. Okay, I got you.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I got you, bro.

[Joe]

I was trying to figure that one

[Co-host/Commentator]

out for a minute. I ain't gonna lie.

[Debo]

Yeah, no, you good.

[Joe]

I'm like brother, hey man, we might have to go do something. We might going over there bro.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Like we might.

[Joe]

Yeah, I might have to go ahead and see what Stefanski was talking about, man.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Like like nine days bro. I know. Listen, no, you can't say that, bro. Not. You know what I'm saying? That. That create a whole different thought in your head, bro.

[Debo]

Yeah. See? Yeah.

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[Joe]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Debo]

He wasn't. He wasn't there. Oh, shucks, man.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Said he plans to travel to Cleveland

[Joe]

to meet Monkin, meet Monkey.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He said I want to meet him

[Joe]

because I think it's vital as a coach not.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not the dad. I can tell you a few things

[Joe]

about Shador, how to get him going that I wasn't. That wasn't asked of me a year ago. I understand it. Even a guy like Travis Hunter being drafted to Jacksonville and I've had him for the last three years. Do you think you would want to talk to me to ask me what gets him going and what backs him off? You would want to know that. So I anticipate and I can't wait to have the conversation with Coach Monkin. Joe, do you think that is a good idea?

[Debo]

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it would hurt. I think if the same way when you would go through the draft process, Deion is actually just not his father. He was his coach. So when you want to talk, not like how would you treat your son? That's a whole different hat that he puts on. When you talk about coaching styles when you get drafted, they do their homework on their coaches. They ask them questions, ask them how they learn what. What kind of rubs in the wrong way the way that they know about their draft picks. They go deep, deep. They ask teachers. You ask people that they knew back in high school. So it would not be crazy to access head coach, but it happens to be his dad. So some people might be a little scared of Dion. They don't want to talk to him. No. That's your door's dad same time as his coach. So if he wants to put that hat on, go ask him. Boom. Like what things did. How did Shador do? Like just certain coaching questions that he would ask another coach if Shadow was coached by somebody else. I think that's not a bad idea. So just I think coach Tom Monk and being comfortable in his own skin, not being afraid of coach prime and be able to ask him something that I think is not a bad question. It's something that other coaches that they would have probably asked those same questions about the learning techniques. What come. Like, what rubs in the wrong way? What rubs in the right way? What?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I think that would be something

[Joe]

that would have been already asked to be honest with you. Because that's just natural process when you're, you know, when you're looking at selecting a player or trying to get a no player. You ask the people who have been around them the most, who. It's. Who have coached them the most, who have an understanding and idea of, you know, what it is that, you know, motivates them. You know, what. What. What doesn't motivate them, like you said, what will shut them down, what will build them up?

[Co-host/Commentator]

You got.

[Joe]

You got to understand that and know that process, because everybody's not motivated the same way. Yep. You know, and with him, me and his dad and his coach is. Is very. It's very advantageous for them to, you know, to talk to him, I would think. Honestly. So. I mean. Yeah, that's like. I think if a guy was coaching,

[Co-host/Commentator]

you know, dude, coaching my son. Hell. Hey, James. Hey, man, tell me what. Listen, hell, I'm open book, man. All you gotta do is ask me a thousand percent.

[Debo]

Hey, and this. It's not. And it's not. I would think that they were asked about Dylan Gabriel's coaches back in the day, too, but you just won't hear about it because Dion's is Deion Sanders, so.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, see, they trying to be so much on. Oh, it's prime.

[Joe]

Is this. Yeah. You know, he feels like he needs to be taught. No, bruh. That's just the process of what it goes through.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm his coach and his dad. You can't get through the process that I'm his dad to realize that I'm his coach and I have everything that you need. Plus, yeah. Everything that he done grew up through and been and how I done raised him, like.

[Debo]

Like.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What is he talking about?

[Debo]

I'm with it. I'm with it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

First call.

[Joe]

Hey, Brian.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey. Tell me about your son.

[Debo]

Easy.

[Joe]

No question.

[Debo]

Some people don't have. I feel they don't feel as comfortable in their own skin, though. They feel like. Nah.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I understand. Here, get the.

[Debo]

Asking us some. He gonna feel like he gotta. No, no, no, no. But no. Ask for knowledge, ask for information. You don't have to use everything, but you know what I'm saying? It's always good to ask around. Don't feel like you're the smartest person. It's always smooth.

[Co-host/Commentator]

No question, bro.

[Joe]

I ain't never trying to be the smartest person in the room, baby.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, I'm. Hey, I'm the smartest person in the room.

[Joe]

I can't do no growth in there, Joe. I can't grow.

[Debo]

No.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm stag. I gotta get it. I gotta get these people out of here, man. I gotta get some more people.

[Debo]

You got to find a different room.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I gotta get some more people in here, man.

[Joe]

Or I got.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Like you said, I gotta go to a different room.

[Joe]

Something gotta happen.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They gotta go. I gotta go.

[Joe]

Yep, that's it, bruh. We have what up super chats.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's all.

[Joe]

Dude, it's almost 12:30. We got super chats right here.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Got two super chats. What up?

[Debo]

What up?

[Joe]

Let's do this. 12:30, bro. We have pit fan 898-595-SAID.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Tell them Debo.

[Joe]

Smash mop.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Still a football.

[Joe]

It's time to get back to telling our opponents that even if you beat us, you will remember our names.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not only will you remember our names, but you will remember this pain. You will feel it. It ain't nothing that you gonna have to remember because you go wake up with it. You go wake up so that you can't.

[Debo]

You.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is this game really for.

[Joe]

Do I really want to be here playing the Sters three times a week?

[Co-host/Commentator]

No, don't send me to Cincinnati. Don't send me to Baltimore or Cleveland. The Steelers are over there.

[Debo]

Yeah. No, you gotta have full blown crash outs ready. You got to. You have to.

[Joe]

For the show. For sure.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Company live now. Even though you can't come live back.

[Debo]

Go ahead, cover it.

[Joe]

She said Debo and Joe. With three A's. With three AFC teams like the Steelers. With three AFC teams like the Steelers getting new coaches, can we predict exact wins? I do believe the Browns will be better thanks to their draft picks, but I'm still cautious. Listen, you can predict

[Co-host/Commentator]

whatever you want. The question is, can you be right?

[Joe]

Yep.

[Debo]

Now everything Joe.

[Joe]

Because he said 10 or nine, so we know Joe's wrong.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I didn't know I'm right.

[Debo]

I'm saying you said 13 and three.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Listen. I'm saying 13 and four worst.

[Joe]

16 and two best.

[Debo]

13 and four.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Six. Sorry. 16 and one best.

[Debo]

16 and one best. Okay. And I'm going to. Let's see. Eight and worst case scenario, we are eight and nine. And best case scenario, we are Tennessee.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey. Damn, Joe. You told me. Hold up. Joe. You just dropped to 8 because you told me.

[Debo]

I said worst case. 8 and 7. Best case. Best case. Cause you look, you. You gave yourself three. Three. Three game. Three game wiggle room. So let me give myself three game wiggle room. Eight. Eight. Eight for the least amount of wins and 11 for the most amount of wins.

[Joe]

Bruh. Bruh.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What, bro? We talking about 13 and 16.

[Joe]

Bruh, you talking about.

[Debo]

You let. Okay, you go ahead, Go ahead, laugh. Go ahead.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's all good.

[Debo]

But look, I'm being honest about mines. When you come in. If we come in here and y' all and. And the Steelers, because you look at. Because you keep looking. Because you keep talking about my brown.

[Co-host/Commentator]

My brown. There you go, There you go. Chat when I'm going against you.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

This man. Debo, I'm telling you, we knew what

[Joe]

you was when you first drove in.

[Debo]

It's going this year. This year, this year. Year two of the show is going to be so much fun because I know. I know what I know. I know how to get to you now. I know how to get to.

[Joe]

This is a shame, bro. I swear, man.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Listen, bro, I know how to get to you too. I know what you mean. I know. How about that cash me outside. How about. Hey, chill out, bruh. Chill out. My good man coming to life. She's back again, man. She said 20. She said, I don't think Dion needs

[Joe]

to go on his son's job to talk to his boss. At what point do we realize our children or at what points do we release our children to be grown? You can still coach and father your son at the dinner table, stay off his job. It's a little different right there, but

[Debo]

that's what I'm saying. They got to still look at Dion.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I understand what she's saying. Like, he has to grow and he has to figure out all this other stuff. Like. But you're talking about somebody that played the position the best that it has ever been played. And he coached his son from knee high to grasshopper all the way up until college. Hall of Famer. He has understanding. He sees and knows what's going on

[Joe]

because he still does it and coaches

[Co-host/Commentator]

it and all that. I'm going to go and get in his ear and say, hey, let me know.

[Joe]

Let give me some insight on this

[Co-host/Commentator]

because I want him to be able to be as successful as you like, like you're talking about. Listen, man, he got. He got a. He got a daddy and a coach and they co. Mingle. And the same way you are able to coach someone dude and father someone, man. And you're like, it's guys that look at coaches as father figures because of that.

[Debo]

Because they just coaching you and they know, you know, they care like, you know, they want.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I got dad. That is the coach. Like, what are we like hall of Famer at that? I'm going to listen. I'm a Benjamin ear, bro. He might be mad at me because I'm a calling like, hey, Shador gave me a little attitude today because I said, hey, what I need to do to get in his ass?

[Debo]

Hey.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He would hate me. Hey.

[Debo]

Your dad said no, listen, listen.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I tell my kids, I tell my kids teachers, I give them this, I give them the cell phone, I say

[Joe]

hey, before anything become a problem, he come in here, he ain't paying no

[Co-host/Commentator]

attention, he want to lay his head on the table, whatever that may be, I don't care before it even become an issue. If he come in and he really ain't ain't participating like you think he should be before it even get to the point of now he laying down in class. Now you don't call me he. He, you know, he come in class, he don't participate.

[Joe]

You know, he sleeps half the time.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Did not tell your ass to call me the first time.

[Debo]

First time.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Didn't I tell you call me the first time. I could have nipped this in the

[Debo]

it had been done.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It only been one now I'm finding out later. So now I'm mad at you.

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[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm still mad at him too. But now I'm upset with you because all you had to do is follow the rule. I didn't want to say nothing because you know, you know you were probably yes I was gonna whoop his ass. Yes I was gonna do what I needed to do. It wasn't me about me doing it because I was mad or upset. It's called correction. I to understand and you need to be in that same process and the same understanding that hey, if A happens then B is going to happen. It's not that you upset or mad with him. You are just following through because the idle threat is nothing.

[Debo]

It's nothing.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You gotta follow through. Listen and I say it right there in front of him too. Hey, here go my number right here. He do anything anything happened to go down transpire. Hey used to tell I used to tell you to tell the nanny I said hey listen, anything happened transpired go down.

[Joe]

Hey, let me me know immediately so

[Co-host/Commentator]

they let me know the first time. Go ahead give them that thought and Then. And then they'd be like, oh, my

[Joe]

God, I don't want it.

[Debo]

Oh, my God, I'm not telling him.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Then by the time they tell me again, it doesn't transpire to where they. They. Damn. They're telling what they is and ain't gonna do. See, I told you.

[Debo]

Yeah. Now they running over. You scared of one.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You scared of one little. Doing this because I want to do it. I'm doing this because I have to do it.

[Joe]

It's called discipline, and kids need discipline.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm raising two boys that need to become men. I am not about to allow them to do anything that is out of character. Especially when you growing up with everything that I wished I had when I growed up as a kid. And now you don't want or need for anything. Come on.

[Debo]

Come on.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And you're privileged at that.

[Debo]

I'm sitting here.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I choke you out.

[Debo]

I'm sitting here like this right now, listening to you, because I'm raising two boys, and you're trying to raise them to be men. And they are consequences for your actions. The world out here does not love you. They do not love you. They will not take care of you. They don't care. They want you to fail. So when you do stuff wrong, you're never just gonna walk around my house. And you would never get popped upside the head if you didn't deserve to get popped upside the head. There's.

[Co-host/Commentator]

There's.

[Debo]

There's actions. There's repercussions for actions. Everything you just spoke on was how my dad raised me. You never just doing nothing. You're never just gonna get walking my head. Oh, what's up? No, you did something stupid. You did something that you needed to be disciplined for. And guess what? You won't do that one again. Cause, you know, like, Pops ain't just. He's not doing stuff for no reason. Dad's out here trying to raise me. World don't love me. I see.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Debo]

Running around crazy stuff. He said, you see that kid right there? I said, yes. He needs to be smacked inside his tail. Like, just because I'm like, that's just. Shut up, Mom.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Whoa.

[Debo]

Like, just. Just any of that. There's no. There's no type of time for that. So, you know, just. Everybody is raising their kids, and everybody got somebody that's going on and stuff. But when you say what you just said, Deebo, I am on the same accord. I'm raising two young gentlemen, and I gotta make sure there's the law, there's A law.

[Joe]

Listen, it's easier for me to teach you now so that somebody else out there don't teach you the hard way. And now you end up being in jail or somebody takes your life because you don't realize there's repercussions and consequences to your actions. Yes, I'm a discipline mind now. Discipline now. And. And.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And even now, dude, I'm like, yo,

[Joe]

my kid, my son is 18. I'm like, yo, listen, I don't care what happens on the road, what's going down, dude, if you get stopped by the policeman and you. He. Sometimes you get a little heavy foot. I'll be watching it. I got 360 on him. He get a heavy foot. Hey, slow your ass down.

[Debo]

Okay?

[Joe]

Slow your ass down.

[Co-host/Commentator]

If you get stopped, your job is to get home.

[Joe]

I don't care what goes on. I don't care if he called you every name in the book. Do not interact. Yes, sir. No, sir. Your job is to get home.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Even if that process is you got

[Joe]

to go to jail first to get home. Your job is to get home, get to jail.

[Co-host/Commentator]

We get the bail. You worry about. I know my rights and all know the.

[Debo]

No, no, no.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Worry about your rights later. Because if he go and lay your ass down, they go give him the right to do that and say he was right,

[Debo]

period.

[Joe]

Y trust.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Listen, these cops ain't out here. World's best MMA fighter and everything else. Listen, just do what they say, because

[Joe]

I'm gonna tell you right now, if

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm a cop in this mind, man,

[Joe]

listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, Joe, the reason I ain't a cop

[Co-host/Commentator]

is because I'm pulling out the switch as soon as. Listen, it's a van full, okay? It's a. It's a minivan. I already look like it looked like it's a soccer mom, but she done made a left on red when she couldn't. Okay? Now I gotta tell her loudspeaker. Put your hands out the window. Hey, you heard what I said. Put your hands out the window.

[Debo]

Okay, off the illegal right,

[Co-host/Commentator]

left on red. I can't take no chances, Joe. No, no, listen. No, no, no, listen, man, whoever coaching my son, y' all want to know something, man, come to me, man. I'm gonna let y' all know, man, listen, I'm gonna let you know. I ain't tripping.

[Joe]

I ain't tripping.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I ain't tripping at all. I'm gonna tell you what. Motivated with getting going, you know what I'm saying? This coach can tell you the same thing but I don't, I don't think he's going to have the intricate details and that I do.

[Joe]

I'm gonna let you know.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm gonna let you know, baby.

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

We got $5 from Mother Love 2 Willis. $5 says please go watch the whole show. It was very good. G. Bush did a good job. Who is G. Bush? We don't know.

[Debo]

Oh no.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Come to life. She back again.

[Joe]

She said my daughter is an engineer just like her father is an engineer. He doesn't go to her job and talk to her boss. Psy, whatever.

[Debo]

Each is each his own.

[Joe]

Who is the Falcons quarterback against the Steelers? Protocol on deck. Get the blue temp ready.

[Debo]

What you think?

[Joe]

Listen, my thing is this. Your daughter is an engineer covering life and his son as a football player. Two totally different careers. I don't know how much motivation I

[Co-host/Commentator]

need to do for an engineer. That's why people don't tune in to watch somebody engineer. That's why it's not multi billion dollar organizations, corporations, TV industries to watch somebody engineer.

[Joe]

It is to watch somebody play football.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm not saying her job is, is,

[Joe]

is less than I'm just telling you as far as it is to the

[Co-host/Commentator]

people that want to pay to watch is.

[Joe]

I wish my sons was an engineer.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I wish they would do great things like that. I would love for all that to be be the case. But when it comes down to it, a coach that coaches motivates, you have to motivate players. I don't care what you, what you do. If you can't motivate your players, you can't get them to get to their potential, then you have a problem. And then when you're a great coach, you get them to play above their potential. I had great coaches. Dick LeBeau, great coach. Keith Butler, great coach. James Harrison was supposed to be a perennial special teams player all his life. Never start. Never start. I ended up being a starter. I ended up being a pro Bowler AR Pro defensive player of the year because I was coached beyond my potential by great coaches. You don't get somebody that's gonna coach you so great that you just go be a, a better, you know, was engineer. How do you motivate? It's not two different fields.

[Debo]

I just want people to start looking at the Deion and Shador situation not so negatively and more positive. Like, if it's Archie Manning and somebody hits up Peyton Manning.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Come on, man, you know it. Now stop playing. Good thing.

[Debo]

That's a good thing.

[Joe]

You know what it is?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Manning, stop playing.

[Joe]

You know what it is?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Stop.

[Debo]

Oh, you got.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You got Peyton Manning, Eli.

[Debo]

I'm like, you got Deion with his son. You know what I'm saying? He's asking a real coach. You know what I'm saying? It's just a Deion thing. Got people like. I'm like, man, that's a coach, though. It's still Deion the coach. If anybody else was the coach, then it's not as. It's not as bad as people try to make it seem sometimes. So, I mean, he doesn't need to be there. I could feel what some people like Shador just wanting to bring more 10. Like, does he need his dad there to, like, always, like, hold his hand? I'm like, he doesn't need his dad there. His dad's trying to stay out the way. Like, Shador wants to do it on his own accord. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's not. I just try to not make it as a, like, chador needs. Does his dad need his dad coming off there and rubbing his, like, making sure everything is on it? I'm like, no, he doesn't need it, but that's his dad. He loves his son. He wants him to be successful.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All he was saying is like, yo,

[Joe]

you want to have some insight, holler at me. That's it, bruh. That's it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's not. It's not. It's not like he's saying, hey, man, you need to talk to me because you don't know how to do this or do that. Da, da, da. No, listen, man, you want a little insight? You didn't draft him. The dude before drafted him, okay? You go through that draft process, you're supposed to be talking to the people and doing all that other stuff, and then, you know, Barry is still there. Of course, I would assume that he had those conversations with Dion. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, but with Todd Monkey being the head coach, Barry is not going to

[Joe]

be the person there coaching him every day.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's going to be Monkey, okay? He's going to be there motivating, doing whatever it is. How that process is that you build your players.

[Joe]

So why not, like, why not get a little insight?

[Co-host/Commentator]

What are we talking about?

[Joe]

Yep.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Mother loves his back. Oh, G Bush. I guess that's where prime did the show.

[Joe]

That interview that we're talking about.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Shout out to G. Bush. Look here baby. Yeah, we want to thank you guys.

[Joe]

We Joe is 47.

[Co-host/Commentator]

We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like download where

[Joe]

you get your show.

[Debo]

Joe, yo tap in with us on Monday, same time, same place when I show y' all them cast. You know what I'm saying? Headed to that good old Eastern conference.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They about to get pop. They about to get popping.

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