B (2:33)

Speaking of making sure you stack your cheese. The dn. What is it? Daniel Hunter.

C (2:39)

Oh my goodness.

B (2:40)

One year, forty million dollar deal. What do you think it is, Joe?

C (2:47)

I think it is beautiful. Deservingly so he came there and did what he had to do. He signed his two year extension for right around like the 50.50mil, 48 million, 49, something like that. Came in, had 12 sacks, came and had 15 sacks the next year. And then they do. Then they gave. Come on, you came here, you did what you had to do. Get you this one year extension for the 40 ball. Because you went and did all pro. You came and did what you had to do and you come and get your payday again. So now it's another one year. It's no long term deal. But they're giving him the bag for when you sign someone from another team and he comes and he outplays his deal. He gets paid and they keeping him for another year. Cause they know it's gonna be two for 80. They know like they just. We can keep you for a little bit. We gonna give you what you like. Dang and balled out. We can't let you go. We can't cut you because we be looking crazy. You came and outperformed what you did. So numbers match. He did what he had to do, came and stung him and now he's still trying to go ball out again. This is what happens when you bring in a free agent to your team and he comes and balls out on that.

B (3:52)

Look.

C (3:52)

Oh, we give you two for 50. They like, oh yeah, that's a good deal. You got my 25 a year. And then he spanks it. Now we come. Okay, demarcus is looking like, okay, now we got to pay him 40. Okay, it's one for 40, you know what I'm saying? So it's like the, this, the Geor. It's the George Pickens. It's the little. It's the free. It's the, it's. It's the tag without the tag, basically. You know what I'm saying?

B (4:11)

Well, they gave him a little, they gave him a little bump last year though. So this year and oh, they started last year. They giving him what he needs into this year. He looking at almost 80, I think his first eight years and Minnesota was only 72. So I love it. He betting on himself and right now he already got this sitting here. He like, yeah, let me go year to year. Y' all go keep 35, 40 and all that. Yes, sir.

C (4:39)

Yeah, I'm gonna go get me. I'm gonna go get me. 16, 15.

B (4:42)

He knows, listen, that's it right here. And then he go here and do the same thing. Come through again. He got another 40 bag coming up.

C (4:50)

This is that Darrell Revis. When you know that, you just walking around. Look, I'm walking around. I'm a $20 million corner who needs, who needs me? He's walking around. I'm a 40 million dollar defensive end who needs me. When you get to that point, that's that, that's that betting on yourself.

B (5:05)

Go. He already. Well, he has the opportunity to be able to do it because he's not. He's not a young guy that ain't made no money. He made his money and now he's like, you know what? Whatever. I'm getting this year to year max out. Boom, boom, boom. That's what I'm gonna do. Like he got smile. What he got 72 sitting there from the last eight years in Minnesota, plus another these two years combined. Go be a 80. Like close to 80 more than what he did in eight. He go doing too.

C (5:31)

That's what he, he deserves it. Went out there. Did, did, did what he had to do.

B (5:36)

Yeah, he gotta, he gotta take that. I wouldn't do it actually. When I was first looking at it, I was like, one year, why would you do it one year? You might get hurt, all that other stuff. And then I had to read into it. I'm like, oh, okay, man. What?

C (5:50)

This is icing on Debo. Yeah, this is just icing.

B (5:53)

Sitting on top of the hill. Icing. He looking at the view.

C (5:56)

This is icing.

B (5:57)

Yeah, well, helicopter go come down and drop that back

C (6:02)

chopper.

B (6:03)

Here we go. Parachute it out. Yes, parachute it out. Parachute it to your boy.

C (6:08)

It's gonna be.

B (6:09)

Yeah, big, big duffel bag. Speaking of big duffel bag, Dak Prescott brother, he. They say he under heavy criticism. They say it's hypocritical and a hypocrite and a fraud. Listen to this.

C (6:21)

No way.

B (6:23)

Yeah, George, George loves football. That's the one thing about it. I just want him to know.

C (6:28)

Don't change your love for football.

B (6:29)

Don't, don't, don't get in the business mind of this. You played last year on a one year for not even that much, right? So if you can go 30, whatever it is, now thinks the same thing I got. So you know, when I'm franchise.

C (6:41)

So, hey, go do it at the

B (6:43)

end of the day, bet on yourself.

C (6:44)

He's a hell of a player, hopefully

B (6:46)

we can get him long term and sign that.

C (6:47)

But if not, I think the way

B (6:50)

that he plays the game, the person that he is, he'll be just fine. Joe, do you think he is.

C (6:57)

Yes.

B (6:57)

Being hypocritical here.

C (7:01)

Not. Not even a little bit. Not even a little bit. And the reason why I say that is because Dak Prescott went on a franchise tag also. So he went on the franchise tag when he played for the, for the, for Cowboys. He came in 4 for 2.7 as a rookie, then played on the tag for one year, 31mil. And then after that they gave him the bag, the four for 160. And now he's sitting on his second bag from them. A four for two, four for 240. So that, that got the dough. But I see what he's saying with George because end of the day, I don't want George to do the. I don't want to happen with the Le'Veon if I don't want him to hold out. I, I like him to still. End of the day, it's $28 million that he can get this year, guaranteed. Go there, ball out. You're going to have to go ball regardless next year. The thing he wants for his deal is what is going to be $60 million probably guaranteed like a, like a 4, 4 for 120. Right now he's getting a 1 for 28 next year. If he does it again and they try to franchise tag him, it would be another 30, like a 31 million. So it's basically right now it's 28 million. Next year, 31 million. I know you talking about you can go get hurt and all that. I just don't want him to lose the momentum. You have a great quarterback that wants to get you the ball. You're in a great situation. Just don't mess it up where like the money's still coming in. I know you want that, that, that bag, that four for 120, you know what I'm saying? With 60 guaranteed. But it's hooping. This year is 28 million. Hooping next year is another 31. You still can be able to get it everything. Like, like, I don't want you to knock out this 28. This 28 is still coming to you regardless. So don't like, bow, like, don't look at it like it's crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's still $28 million, George, that we've been fighting for. You haven't made that much since You've been in the league yet, so 28 is cool. I understand what Dak is saying because Dak had to do the same thing. They franchise tagged him, they gave him the 31 and then he went and got the bag. I don't want him. I don't feel like Dak is being hypocritical because he doesn't want him to mess up his money. Like, I know he wants a long term deal, but he's saying, look, we can still go get this. I'm going to throw you, I'm the quarterback. I'm throwing you the rock too. So you gonna be still, we're gonna be able to get off. You can get your touchdowns again and still prove it. Year ucd. I'm throwing it to you. Let's just not mess up the vibes. You can still get your 28 next year. You can get your money again. But I hear what he's saying because I know, I know what he. I know what George wants, but I can see what Dak is saying.

B (9:29)

I, I'm with you, but the only thing I don't, or one of the things I didn't like I should say is that he said, don't get into the business mind of this. That's a problem because this is a business and the owners are running a business while you're playing against it.

C (9:47)

Those words that, yeah, the wording. Right there was a. The wording.

B (9:51)

I don't, I don't like, you know, also that he said, you know, I played under this or that. Yeah, that's you. He, he, he, he ain't in the same position as you. You know how many receivers they got coming out every year that are supposed to be elite and all this other stuff that could do this and do that. It's between having a quarterback such as yourself. You got your money, bro. All you need to do is be supportive of your teammate and say, you know what? I want him to get as much as humanly possible, brother. Just like cd, CD Lamb did. He said, I want him to see him make more than me. Like, it's a business, okay? And when players realize that you know it's a business, that's when they're like, you know what? I gotta make as much money as I can to make sure that I can secure my future and generations forward. Because that's the ultimate goal of it, is to make sure you can make as much as you can so that you can make it easier on, on your kids and, and everybody else under you. And again, I understand what he's saying. Like I said, I'm on the other side too. Like, hey, listen, he's trying to tell you, you know, you know who you're working with right here. Hey, George, you, this Jerry, this Jerry. You know, don't, don't, don't go too crazy. Because Jerry, he hard headed. You see, you see how he do it? Like, if you don't feel like he go, he go, he ain't gonna get you penny more than what he think he go get or feel like he, you deserve. So he just, he just putting it out there and like, you know, giving Pickens the heads up. Like, you gotta realize who you're dealing with. Like, I had to do it. You may have to do it too now. You know, I think, like I said, like I said, Joe, I know people gonna say James. Well, you know, you're talking about both sides of your mouth. No, I'm just giving you a point of view from a different angle. And until you could be on this side and then flip over there to Joe's side or whoever side that is, you can't see the view. You can only see your personal view. So you got to be able to understand, like, you got to be able to understand your enemy if you want to be able to defeat them. And if they undefeatable, you got to understand that too. So they willing to do whatever it is that they say they go do. And you got to realize that too. So.

C (12:15)

But I think I'm with you with Dak. When you're saying you're the quarterback. Support your, support your receiver. Just support him. Just always, just be there to support him. You don't want to say nothing with the, you don't want to get in the business side of it. It is a business. He got released from the, he wasn't with the Steelers. He got like, he, he's, he's in the business. This is his second team. You only been on one team. You know, I'm saying, like, everybody. To each his own. It is a business. Like, I understand that part, but that like you're getting paid. He still hasn't got paid yet, so. As well. As far as that part, I can definitely see what you're saying, but like, yes, support your teammate. But at the same time, I'm with, with, with what he's saying too, because he's the quarterback. Stay on this squad. I got your back. I'm going to pass you the rock. You know what I'm saying? It's 28. It's the franchise. We gonna go hoop on the franchise. I hooped on the franchise. You know what I'm saying? So he's kind of a little bit of both.

B (13:07)

Yeah, that's why I said I didn't. I didn't think it was like, really hypocritical, you know, I think it was more of a. Just, just be more supportive. Hey, listen, if it comes down to it, I did it, man. Look, it worked out for me. I wanted money as he can, and if he got to, man, look, man, it worked out for me. I did it. So, hey, you know, I. I can understand that route. I just don't get into the business of the business. No, that's the business, brother.

C (13:30)

Don't you don't. Yeah, just eliminate the don't. Don't. You just don't get into the business part. Ah, yes, he has to. He's actually in the business part of it.

B (13:40)

He's.

C (13:41)

You know what I'm saying?

B (13:41)

So. Tom Brady's trainer, Alex Guerrero reportedly annoyed players and coaches in Las Vegas, including Max Crosby do. According to Mike Silver. He said like many players and coaches, Crosby was frustrated by the presence of Alex Guerrero, a staunch Brady ally who official title is wellness coordinator. Guerrero was regularly. Guerrero, who regularly attended practices and meetings for propo, purports to pose significant organizational power, including. I'm sorry, informing players of impending transactions and indicating the staff members who don't follow his instructions that their jobs may be at risk. How do you feel about this joke

C (14:41)

Is reported to by Mike Silver. So we going. We're taking this as taking us legit. We taking this as legit. If I'm taking insider. He has a legitimate insider, Tom Brady. When we talking about him being the broad, the broadcaster, he has a man on the inside. And let me tell you this, D. Bo, if you have somebody walking around talking about impending transactions, staff members, if you're not listening to my instructions, you will be fired. This is like janky promoters. Like, this is janky promoters. Like. There should be no. Like, you're like. Those are the only. The GM decisions, the head coaches. These are not conversations that are being had with players at all. Do you know what I'm saying? Like in for him to have the direct contact. Obviously, that's Tom Brady's trainer. We know he was his guy. He was in New England. It was a big thing with him being all in their facilities and everybody not rocking with it. For Tom to have that, it just brings up too many. It's just. Why Tom, you. You think that you want to give people reason to, like, ask these questions. You want to put your man's right in the middle of the thing, and then he's sitting there talking about transactions. What do we expect? What do you want us to expect? You know what I'm saying? I think it's crazy. And for Max Crosby, legit. I don't think if this is legit. He has no reason to lie, Matt. Max is trying to win games. He's walking around the locker room, and you got your wellness coach talking about people getting cut.

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C (20:49)

Because he's cool with the owner of the team. Like that just sounds foggy. And I can only imagine the players on the team walking around and looking at their wellness Man. Like who knows the GM who's going to make the real decision? The gm, the head coach or the Wellness Man? Like that is just crazy and janky promoters. If that's what's really going down, man,

B (21:10)

it's going to be the wellness man who is super friends and credited with his whole career. That's who it's going to be, brother, I don't like this. And I never had any ill. Anything with Alex or nothing like that. But your work that you did. I don't know, Brady don't apply to every football player on the field. Tom Brady threw a football. Pliability, yes, that's great. But you're talking about a guy like Max Crosby who has to get into a fight with a dude every play. He needs weights. Tom throwing the 22 pound ball. Pliability, all that stretching, all that stuff, that's great. But when you in there in the trenches and I got to put my hands on somebody, I need to be put in that weight room. I need to be under those forces. I need to be under that tension. So for him to be a person, that's saying, you're not doing what I said to do. Well, maybe what you said to do ain't what works for them for me, like, it's just that's. That it's not. It's not a 1:1, a 1 size or 1:1 approach fits all mentality. He did a great job with Tom, obviously, but Tom wasn't up there fighting with a man every play, having to physically dominate a man every play. So, you know, the. The whole stretch through the bands and all that, man, if I would do a band workout for my workouts every day or, or whatever the process is that, that, that Tom was doing, I'd have been out of a job before I even got one. So I don't like it because you have someone who has a very close and personal relationship, I mean, for decades now, saying that, yeah, don't do what I tell you to do. You up out of here. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, they let town do anything though, man. Hell, he an owner and still do commentating. He, you know, he getting all the inside scoop, all that other stuff, and they still can't win. Like, they allowing him to go ahead and basically damn near cheating. They still can't get it. They still can't get nothing going on over there.

C (23:16)

It's just a lot, man, you ask for. You wonder why, Like, I don't. I didn't have nothing against. I don't even know who Alex Gorrell is. Well, I know who he is. I know of him, but I never met him personally. But the more that you hear, like when you say, I don't care who you are in the building, if you're talking to the players about pending transactions and, and indicating that the staff members don't listen to you. That they will be. Their jobs are at risk. That's just. That's just toxic energy walking around the building. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, who are you that can do that, has that power to be walking around, is talking like that. You know what I'm saying?

B (23:53)

Like, but I will also say this. I'll also. I got to go and defend something because I do know some other stuff. So his.

C (24:01)

Go ahead.

B (24:02)

Recovery and therapy techniques as far as getting players back are good. It's well documented. So when he's talking about staff members, I'm obviously going to think that he's talking about training staff, because as you know, and I know the techniques of a lot of the training staffs in the NFL.

C (24:19)

Oh, you gotta do the exact Far,

B (24:21)

far behind into the caveman days, and some are a lot closer, but none of them are up to Q of the next closest advancements. And by time they get them, it's like, oh, yeah, we got this new thing done. You know, I hear. I'm like, yeah, I was doing that 10 years ago. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, that's. Oh, now it's this, you know, okay,

C (24:42)

I can rock with that. But the. The impending player transaction.

B (24:47)

Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can't rock with that.

C (24:50)

Get. Get your. Get out of here.

B (24:52)

Don't even worry about it. You ain't gonna be here.

C (24:57)

That's what I'm saying.

B (24:58)

Who you think you talking to? Like, come on, your life go be cleaned out by Monday, my good man.

C (25:09)

We had, man. Yeah, we had. You want to hear a story?

B (25:13)

Give me a story. Quick story.

C (25:16)

Before the. Before the Haslams bought the team, they had. The Learners were the owners of the Browns, and they had their son, my young Bull, little learner. He was walking around that joint and he was like, oh, yeah, don't worry, he's going to get cut. This was when I first got to the team. The owner's son, young Bull, was walking through that joint letting people know. He was probably like 11. He's probably like 11, 12 years old, young bull. And he was walking around. He knew what was good was they getting cut. That was a little crazy.

B (25:49)

How many of them got cut that he said, oh, he getting cut.

C (25:52)

No, he only. He only. Like, he only did it one time for real. When I.

B (25:55)

We.

C (25:55)

But look, it was a player. We knew. He was. Yeah, it was. I was like, yeah, you right. Basically. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like a surprise Joint, though.

B (26:04)

To be. To. To. To be in that position and be like, yeah, hey, and my daddy about to get you up out of here.

C (26:11)

And my daddy might get you up out of there. That was my young bull. He was like, yeah, don't they love you? It was 2010. This is when I first got there. I was gonna show you good. That was my little man. You're good.

D (26:22)

You're good.

B (26:23)

They love you.

C (26:24)

I'm like, you love me? All right, I love you too, kid.

B (26:26)

Listen, man. Paul Logan, he challenged NFL players. He said a million. Paul, I'm sorry, Logan. Paul, he challenged NFL players. He said a million dollars. Boxing fight. He said he would throttle Miles Garrett. Any NFL player that wanted to do it. Listen to this.

D (26:45)

I wouldn't be surprised if I throw hands with Tom Brady on the field in la. Dude, Tom Brady does not want to throw hands. There's a clip of him out there of him calling me a.

B (26:54)

He's a.

D (26:56)

To Gronk, of all people, who. I beat up all of his brothers back to back. The Gronks lined up and I beat them up back to back to back. And guess who didn't step in there. Mr. Gronk himself.

B (27:13)

I do. I do. I think it's cute.

D (27:14)

If any of the football players want to fight, we can see what happens.

B (27:20)

What?

C (27:20)

Football players would straight up beat his ass?

D (27:22)

Not a. Like.

C (27:24)

Not a. Don't do all that.

D (27:25)

I would put. I would put any amount of money that you could put.

B (27:30)

Metcalf.

D (27:31)

Not a single football player beat me in a boxing match.

C (27:34)

Miles Garrett.

D (27:35)

That is on God.

C (27:36)

Miles Garrett.

D (27:37)

I would throttle Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. I will bet you a mil. Why do we choose him? It could be any name, but any football player. Miles Garrett. Puka, Nakua. Like, I don't even.

B (27:51)

I don't even know.

D (27:52)

Don't even try calling out Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold.

B (27:54)

No, don't do it.

D (27:55)

Doesn't matter. A million dollars. A million dollars. You come to the gym, we put on boxing gloves, we see how it goes. Not a single one. Like, it's this. There's levels to this.

B (28:08)

Stop.

D (28:08)

I will throw hands with any of you.

B (28:11)

Bro, what about Antonio Brown?

A (28:15)

Stop.

D (28:16)

What happens when you take a football player, then you wrestle them, and then you ground upon them? They're not gonna know what to do.

B (28:25)

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.

C (28:26)

What's up, Debo?

B (28:27)

He had. He had a lot to say about that, but my boy Le'Veon Bell responded to him. Man, you know, we got the. We got the tweet right here. And we got. We got a video, brother. We got a video. He ducking my guy, man. He is.

C (28:54)

Almost took my man. Acl and acl.

B (28:57)

Mcl, pcl, ccl, mcl. You name it, bro.

C (29:02)

Ltl.

B (29:02)

You name it, bro. God. You name it.

C (29:05)

His whole.

B (29:05)

He told him, man, stop ducking.

C (29:07)

He.

B (29:07)

He added him. He said, stop, bro. Duck. Stop ducking. He said, bro, I'm trying to fight, bro. Trying to fight an NFL player that's never had and that never fought before. Let's set it up, bro. We all heard you say you can beat any NFL player. We can fight in April, the NFL draft in Pittsburgh. Fighting Pittsburgh. Yes, sir. We can fight NFL draft weekend. Let's make it happen. Listen, he ducking. He ducking. He don't want. He want. He wants somebody untrained. That's why he said like a football player. Then he tried to make it occur and he wanted to fight time, but. And Gronk, and they're not current. But I don't know why he. Why he ducking. Why he ducking, my boy Bell, man,

C (29:48)

Because this one, I'm gonna tell you, he don't wanna box nobody. Like, I don't give a damn how strong people are. They think it's sweet. Like, boxing is a real life. You just don't walk into the ring and not box and can't throw hands. You like, strong and just. Just big and get your ass beat. Like, just walk in there big and buff and you think you're gonna. No, you're not wrestling. Like, you're not just playing ufc. You can grapple, get your hands on them. No, when you're boxing, the referee's there, he's gonna break it up. And you better have these things. You better have a right hand, a left hand, a hook, a straight. And be able to throw all that weights, all that D.N. drills and all that Miles Garrett might get boxed up. But if you got somebody like La'Veon Bell, that. If you get an NFL player that really is in the ring, throwing his hands. You know what I'm saying? Professional. He wants to. You want. You want somebody because he's been practicing, he's been doing it. He don't want that smoke. And that's why I like when dudes just walking into the ring. Yeah, I'll fight him. I'm like, this dude. If you ain't been into the ring, you just thinking you're going to be sweet. He's really training. The Pauls are really training. The Pauls are really in the ring, they really know how to box. So I'm going to look at someone, I'm not dumb, they're going to walk in that Joan and you think it's sweet, get boxed up. La'Veon Bell, he's been training, getting that. Get in there with him, I like that. And he don't want no smoke. I want a dude that's going to walk in there, his first time putting on the gloves and he thinks he's going to just walk in here because he's big and strong and doesn't know how to throw a punch, doesn't know how to box. He's going to get beat up, you

B (31:10)

know what I'm saying?

C (31:10)

Because you can't just come grapple. No, you better be able to throw your hands. Big dudes walk in the joint, bring stowing them crazy. No, you're going to look nuts, you're going to get tired and you're going to get beat up, okay? So when you get somebody that's been in that joint, conditioned, ready to box, been throwing hands, been in that joint for doing rounds, you know what I'm saying? Now, now I like to see, I like La'Veon Bel versus you. And he's like, no, you're not in the league and you can actually fight. He even said it to La Veon Bell, you can actually fight. I'm like, yeah, you know he's going to come in that joint 225, 230 heavyweight, ready to put them hands on you, blocking your little, blocking them little body joints, blocking that bull. He's gonn and tattoo you and you gonna feel it. You have sweat falling off your head. You gonna know you in it for a fight. He's been into them rounds, like where it gets dark, where dudes is tired and they're like, you just see dudes. I'm like, I watch boxing and I'm like, dudes are gonna fold. You can see a dude melt. I'm like, oh, no, he doesn't. He's tired, he's exhausted. He doesn't even know how to put your hands up. They don't know how hard it is. You gotta put yourself. I'm like, why is he not putting his hands. He's exhausted.

B (32:13)

I'm trying to tell you, bro. Just holding my hands up was hell, bro.

C (32:18)

That's what I'm trying to tell you. So when you're really in the joint and you really do some boxing and you know what's going on, you, if you're a boxer you want to bring in a dude, it's like, oh, yeah, no, I go in there and knock him out. Get in the ring, let's do a couple. Just watch. You spa. Just in the breathing on hot. No, we in the joint. Three minutes, fool. Straight up, throw hands. Three minutes. Like when you get in there, I've done some boxing training. I'm like, oh, my gosh. You just put your hands up like it's just hard to hold.

B (32:46)

Slapping you in the face, your hands ain't covering this shit.

C (32:49)

I'm like, man, stop, come on, this ain't ufc. You're not just going to be able to grapple, ground and pound, try to choke somebody out. Nah, referee's breaking it up. And you like this. I'm like, yeah. So I'm with getting your ass in the ring with somebody to actually get them rounds in. You got to prepare, do that. Because if you just throw an NFL dude in there that has no training, that thinks, like, I'm just going to go in there. Yeah, because I'm stroll, you're going to get put on your face and you're going to be, you're going to be a meme. And I don't want my dudes to go out there and be a meme because it, you just don't walk and play boxing. You got to know, you got to know what you're doing.

B (33:23)

No, Logan Paul, he want to, he want to go in there with an untrained fighter that doesn't know what he doing. He don't, he don't want none of that Le'Veon bail smoke. I mean, it's levels to it.

C (33:32)

He ready to come in that joint.

B (33:34)

You look at when he fought Floyd coming there, 35 pounds heavier, had a four each, four inch reach advantage. And I think they said, what was it? He only, he only touched Floyd, what was it? 28 times. Floyd hitting 43, and he threw twice as many punches as Floyd did. He threw like 217. Floyd threw like 107. Like his skill levels to this like point blank period. And you couldn't even, you couldn't even beat him. And some people, boxing analysts said that they thought that he was actually carrying Paul for a few rounds instead of trying to knock him out.

C (34:12)

No, for sure, yeah.

B (34:14)

Go ahead, man. Jumping Paul, jumping in there with my boy Bell.

C (34:19)

I want that. I love that. Yes.

B (34:23)

Jump in there with him. He, he, he standing, he, he talking for all of us, past, present.

C (34:30)

I need to look and see and need to know if any of my dudes in the league is really nobody boxing.

B (34:35)

You can't do that and play football and put in the time necessary, bro.

C (34:38)

You can't, you can't, you can't.

B (34:41)

Only thing you could do is street fight. Go in there trying ground and pound a. That's it.

C (34:45)

Go in there and us.

B (34:46)

Yeah, that's it. That's. Yeah, that boxing thing.

C (34:50)

I like my. I like miles.

B (34:52)

No training. UFC on for sure.

C (34:53)

Yeah, yeah, ufc.

B (34:57)

Yeah. Hey, go ahead and put that same thing, but make it in, make it in. Make it ufc.

C (35:05)

Oh, I'm taking that. That's what I'm talking about.

B (35:08)

They want to stay in their playground, though. You know what I'm saying? They want to stay in their playground with they ball.

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C (39:53)

What you said? Oh, I can't hear you, Debo.

B (40:03)

I said. I said, you ain't go. I said you ain't gonna. I said, I ain't tripping because they getting people paid.

C (40:09)

Oh, you know that that's a fact.

B (40:11)

They getting people. But you ain't about to get Miles Garrett out there for no million. He made 40 a year to stop playing. Come on. You had come up with about 200, 250 something. Oh, man, 250. I go out, I go out there with Anthony Joshua.

C (40:30)

Come on, man.

B (40:31)

I let my get wired up like, like his brother did for that price,

C (40:37)

man, for the 250.

B (40:40)

Staying over here with the Browns man Shadora Sanders, he reflect on the support of the NFL fans in the post. He had right here, right? He said, it's always cool when I randomly meet someone and they pull out my trading card to show me they have it. That support truly means a lot to me, Joe. Have you ever had any bring your rupee, your rookie card to you and be like, hey, sign this for me or hey, I got this. Yes.

C (41:12)

Math.

B (41:14)

I got a rookie card. Why the you asking me that?

C (41:17)

See you got a card though.

B (41:19)

I ain't got. I asked you a rookie card. Okay.

C (41:23)

Yes, yes.

B (41:24)

You got a car collection?

C (41:26)

Okay. Yeah, I got a couple who's.

B (41:29)

What cards you got? You got all your cards, huh?

C (41:34)

No, I got a couple of my cars. I don't got a lot of them.

B (41:37)

He's a garbage mouth. Lie. Because I got almost all of mine when they started making. Hold up, hold up, John. Let me come right back. I told you. Let me go over here to my, my, my. Let me go over here to my dining room in my office where my trophy is. My trophy is.

C (41:53)

I'll go over here, huh? Go ahead, go ahead. No, you got a lot of square footage, Debo. You just be lying. No, but I do be collecting my car a little bit. Just my kids.

B (42:10)

What I got here is though, let's

C (42:12)

see what you got is.

B (42:13)

I got cards.

C (42:16)

Damn.

B (42:16)

But it's not, it's different cards though. So all these are different cards. But the, the big thing is. So I would sign cards, right? And I would make them make me cards for myself. And what they would do is they were send me cards and they'd be like, well, you can't take the card that's in there because it'd be like a one or two. But they would make me like these Personal Edition cards. So it would actually look like this is one of them. So I don't know if you can see that, but see it says personal Edition on the card. These are my own personal cards. It's the same card. So I guess they were trying to keep the value of theirs up, but in reality, to me, I think they Made me some more valuable cards. But here, look at this window, the one I just showed you. Look at your face. Who is that?

C (43:12)

Hold on. Back up a little bit. It's okay. I can't. It's a little voggy. Who is it? It's a little blurry. I can't see it.

B (43:21)

I want you to look at the face. Damn. Can y' all zoom in on the face?

C (43:24)

I can't get it in focus. I gotta get it to a focus. Okay, that ain't. Is that peasy?

B (43:32)

That's Jason gilding. They messed up. They put Jason gilded on these.

C (43:39)

Are those. So look, did they put Jason Gildon on just your.

B (43:42)

No, no, that was just a couple. So these personal edition. These right here, these are actually me, but okay, so same thing. Like all these, they're all different cards but they made them, you know, to be the. The personal edition ones. But on those cards and he.

C (44:04)

Jason good. And one night he wore the same number as me.

B (44:07)

So here, I'll show you another, Jake.

C (44:14)

That's janky promoters right there.

B (44:16)

Debo. I actually got a bunch of these, dude. Like I got so many of these things, dude. So here's the ones that, you know what, like these personal edition ones like this. Let me see. Can you see that?

C (44:28)

Man? You know what? I need the personal edition Jason Gildon joint.

B (44:34)

So. And then it's the same thing. Like it's all the stuff on the back, but like you name it, right? Like all of these are, you know, personal edition cards. Flawless finishes. Like it's everything, bro.

C (44:47)

Like you did way smarter than me. I didn't get. I. I just tried when I tried to keep them like the same way you like. Nah, this is the one. I'm like this.

B (44:55)

Whoa. Put it in your contract that you want your own. Like so I got. Bro, I probably got, I don't know, maybe three or 4, 000 personal edition cards. At least two or three of each. But they're actually. I'm gonna say personal edition. So you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna go ahead and let them know, hey, see if I can't get some. Yeah, I can't get some Michael Jordan prices.

C (45:22)

See, look man, before, before you get to selling them, I need me, I need. I just. Okay, we going to talk offline, but I need a Jason Gildon joint because that's limited edition. Let me get the Jason D and Debo Jones.

B (45:38)

Hey, it got him on the front, bro. And my name on the back of that thing. And I'll Send him, dude. I'm like, it's another one, too, so. Another one that they sent, brother. It's like a. It's like a. It says Debo. And then they got, like, something on the back of, like, why they named me Debo. And they go, because he looked like Debo. I said, yep, these cars ain't coming back to you. I said, change it.

C (46:09)

You be roughing your car.

B (46:11)

No, I don't, man. Like this, man. This is the business, dude.

C (46:14)

Yes. Yes, you do.

B (46:15)

Yeah, this is the business, man. I'm trying to tell you, man. Listen, man, I'm trying to tell you I'm sitting on. I'm sitting on at least, like I said, about three grand of cars, brother. And, like, the thick ones, you know, the thick border ones, like.

C (46:29)

Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm gonna come over there and get one.

B (46:37)

Yeah. You know what? That might be? That might be a giveaway. That might be a giveaway. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Talking about, though. You know? You talking about. Oh, okay. Listen, Joe, I have no sentimental attachment to anything that I did personally, because you can't take it from me.

C (47:02)

No, it's in the books.

B (47:03)

It's in the books.

C (47:05)

It's in the bus, in the history books.

B (47:07)

Everything that I have can be bought for the right price, Joe. Everything, Joe. When I say everything, Joe, I mean everything. It's gonna be a hell of a price, see?

C (47:20)

But everything should be bought.

B (47:22)

You can't take away the win.

C (47:25)

You can't take away the money.

B (47:26)

Take away the win, Joe.

C (47:27)

You can't take away the memories.

B (47:29)

You can have what came with it if you wanted to pay the right price, Joe.

C (47:33)

Hey, never fall in love with property, Debo. You. You don't. You don't. Saying you're not a real material. You don't love the material things.

B (47:42)

Hey, but look how I'm living, Joe. They can tell you I don't love the material thing. Look at my life.

C (47:48)

You a lot.

B (47:49)

Look at my life, Joe.

C (47:51)

You acting like you in the studio, like they just. Everything, Everything. I'm in the studio. Just one little open room. You liar.

B (47:58)

One bedroom studio, everything.

C (48:00)

Yep, Yep.

B (48:01)

You ever been in New York? Studio, house, apartment. That has a. That's what I'm living in.

C (48:06)

I have. Yep, Yep.

B (48:09)

You're lying. It's all good, though, Joe. I ain't got no gym in my house. You know, I ain't got no gym in my house. You got a gym?

C (48:23)

Oh, not a Gym.

B (48:25)

Oh, my. Joe got a gym in his house, but I can't tell.

C (48:29)

Yep. I can't tell. Gotta get that word, Joe.

B (48:34)

Yep. You know what time it is? It's time for Play of Fame presented by Prize Pigs. All right. Joe deserve another one for UFC 326. Okay, we go play or fade it. Okay, we got.

C (49:06)

I got my man. Definitely more than 24 and a half significant strikes.

B (49:11)

You got more than that?

C (49:13)

Yes.

B (49:14)

Keep going. Oh, never mind. I'm with you because. Hey, man, what is it? Callow, but what the. How you say that, man? Last name.

C (49:24)

See? Yep. That was actually.

B (49:27)

That was good, bro. I'm good, bro. I'm doing this, bro. I'm trying to tell you, man, you're doing better. He going against. He's going against Rider, man. You're going against riders. What you, what you think on that? We got more.

C (49:38)

I think he's gonna get. I think, I think he's. I think he's gonna do more. And do you know why, though? Because his last three times he did this, in his last three fights, he's had more than that many. He had. He's had more than 30, 39 and a half strikes in his last three fights.

B (49:54)

So he, he, he going, he going for long loan. He going for the long haul.

C (49:57)

Yes.

B (49:58)

He ain't got. He ain't got that. He ain't got that one hit a quarter.

C (50:00)

Yes, he, he's more, he's more, he's more going. He's going to get you some more significant strikes. It's going to take a little bit longer.

B (50:08)

Okay, so Charles Oliveira and Max Holloway,

C (50:14)

now this one is going to be more of a one hitter quitter. It's going to be less than 48 because he had less than 48 in six of his last seven fights. So he gonna put. So, so somebody gonna go to sleep. I don't know if it's him or the other person, but there's gonna be less than 48 strikes.

B (50:29)

I don't know. I think Max, Max Holloway, go tell him to stand in that ring. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go less on that one. I feel like. See, if I say this, my son will get mad at me, so I'm just gonna say nothing. My son, you know, he. The usu. You say something against Charles James, you say something against him, you know, he's liable to fight you, you know, And I don't feel like going to jail for beating up my son, you know? You know what I mean? Okay, so I'm gonna go. So you. Who you think gonna win, though? I. That sounds like they believe in Max. Go win. It don't matter.

C (51:10)

No, Charles gonna win. Charles gonna win. Charles gonna win by decision, okay? Because Max. Cause Max goes hard. Max go hard. He ain't gonna go. He ain't gonna going outside. So. Yep, over three. Over three rounds. Under 48 strikes. Yep, that's what I got.

B (51:30)

You got. Let's get it. We go play this right here, people. So download the app today and use the code Debo and Joe to get fifty dollars after you play your first five dollar lineup. That code is Debo, Joe to get fifty dollars after you use your first five dollar lineup. Prize picks. Feels good to be right, baby. And we right. You play this. You go be right, Joe.

C (52:01)

Yes, sir.

B (52:02)

We like to thank everyone, Joe and myself, for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe, episode 77.

C (52:11)

Yes, sir.

B (52:12)

Please, like subscribe and download podcast where you get it. My alarm was going off in my ear. And Joe.

C (52:23)

Yes, sir. We gonna be back same time, same place on Monday talking about that good free agency, talking about who got signed.

B (52:31)

As a matter of fact, go ahead. I'm getting my boy. I'm gonna give my boy Le'Veon a call, man. We go get him on here, man. We're gonna talk, man, because if he don't. If he don't do nothing to say nothing to. If your boy Paul don't. Don't do nothing to say nothing to my boy later on. We got to bring him on here, man, and. And talk to him and see, man,

D (52:47)

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B (52:48)

Man, why is he ducking, y'?

D (52:50)

All.

B (52:50)

We be back here on Monday.

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