Nightcap Hour 1: NBA’s Kawhi INVESTIGATION to DRAG Into 2027?! + Cade Cunningham NEEDS HELP + Tony Allen Calls LeBron OVERRATED Defender + DC Young Fly JOINS Nightcap

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1 – July 31, 2026

Episode Theme

This episode of Nightcap is a lively, unfiltered dive into the latest NBA and NFL storylines, hosted by ISO Joe (Joe Johnson) and Josh “Smooth” Smith, filling in for the usual Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson. The main thread is the NBA’s ongoing investigation into the LA Clippers and Kawhi Leonard, plus a look at the challenges facing Cade Cunningham in Detroit, Tony Allen's viral take on LeBron’s defense, and a special appearance by DC Young Fly. The episode blends NBA insider news, personal stories, Atlanta sports culture, and comedic moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Analysis

Kawhi Leonard & Clippers Investigation (09:17 – 17:59)

• Central Topic: The NBA is investigating whether the LA Clippers circumvented the salary cap to pay Kawhi Leonard under the table. This could extend into 2027 if unresolved, potentially impacting trades (notably with the Toronto Raptors).
• Details & Speculation:
  • Reference to a similar historical situation with Joe Smith and the Timberwolves.
  • Raptors refuse to complete a Kawhi trade due to risk of penalties if Kawhi is suspended post-trade. (10:26)
  • Potential Penalties: Both player and organization could be punished if wrongdoing is found.
• Personal Insights:
  • Joe and Josh debate which party should be penalized and recall high-stakes owner involvement.
  • Owner Steve Ballmer is expected to “aggressively fight” the NBA if sanctions are levied.

Notable Quotes:

• “They basically trying to see, bruh, did the Clippers play this man under the table, bruh?”
  — ISO Joe (09:53)
• “If they trade for him…and he gets suspended for 50 games…who gets penalized, the player or the organization?”
  — Josh Smith (11:22)

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The State of NBA Ownership & Team Culture (13:08 – 14:30)

• Steve Ballmer’s Reputation: Lauded as a top NBA owner, but debate if being richest makes him the best. Contrasts between engaged owners and absentee ones.
• Personal Anecdotes: Reminiscing on their time with various organizations—how ownership style affects player experience.

Notable Quotes:

• “When owners are involved like that, bro, it does give a sense…you give a damn to some degree.”
  — ISO Joe (14:03)

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Kawhi’s Trade Limbo & Impact on Players (14:40 – 17:59)

• Kawhi’s Future: If the trade falls through, Clippers would welcome him back; Joe and Josh discuss the business nature of trades.
• Player Repercussions: Brandon Ingram and others caught in potential fallouts; effects on team trajectory and morale.
• Prediction: The situation could impact the Raptors' status as contenders if resolved.

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Player Development & Changing Game Culture (18:01 – 21:27)

• Josh Smith’s Son: Training in LA with Rondo and Chris Johnson—importance of young players seeing pro work ethic.
• Modern Agents: Critique of high school players hiring agents early and being seduced by early promises.

Notable Quotes:

• “They trying to hit a lick early, bro.”
  — ISO Joe (20:08)
• “They got the advantage right now. You don’t have no advantage, no leverage as a high schooler.”
  — Josh Smith (20:39)

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Cade Cunningham & The Detroit Dilemma (27:45 – 31:49)

• Recruiting Woes: Cunningham has tried to recruit elite talent (Reaves, Durant, Kawhi, Kyrie), but Detroit’s allure as a free agent destination is questioned.
• Team Needs: Cunningham feels overburdened as primary scorer (“K take about…30 a game, three shots”).
• Ideal Fit: Joe argues Kyrie Irving would have pushed Detroit further in the playoffs compared to current supporting cast.

Notable Quotes:

• “What Detroit got to offer, bro?”
  — ISO Joe (28:19)
• “If you could have got a guy like Austin Reeves, hell, even Kevin Durant…my favorite who I wish Detroit could get…is Kyrie, bro.”
  — ISO Joe (30:01)

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The NBA’s “Revenge Tour” Season (31:18 – 34:57)

• Players with Something to Prove: Kyrie, LeBron, JB (“on demon time”); Philly’s strong offseason.
• JB (Jaylen Brown) Underappreciation: Smith makes the case JB was the best “two guard” in the league and didn’t get the credit or All-NBA team selection he deserved (33:10).
• Philly’s Outlook: Potential for the 76ers rests on perfecting player rotations and chemistry, not just star power.

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Tony Allen Calls LeBron an Overrated Defender (35:28 – 41:04)

• Viral Audio Playback: Tony Allen says LeBron “never guarded KD in his prime,” mostly got glory on “chase down blocks” and late-game moments (35:53 – 37:15).
• Roundtable Reaction: Joe and Josh dissect the culture of defense in the NBA. Both acknowledge LeBron’s overall impact but debate if he’s truly a lockdown defender.
  • Joe recounts rookie assignments: “I got all these dudes for first three quarters, bro…Paul Pierce, T-Mac, Vince Carter, Ray Allen.” (38:15)

Notable Quotes:

• “He never guarded me to start the game off…that’s kinda understood, bro.” — ISO Joe (38:08)
• “That doesn’t mean he’s not a great defender, though. He has more value than a person just playing defense, respectfully.”
  — Josh Smith (39:21)

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DC Young Fly Joins Nightcap (46:12 – End)

• Cultural Exchange: DC reps Atlanta, discusses his perpetual hustle, Wild’n Out/85 South fame, and his personal admiration for Joe and Josh as hometown legends.
• Atlanta Sports Memories: The crowd energy during their time with the Hawks, the lasting legacy of Atlanta athletes, and the evolving culture of the city and its sports teams (48:33 – 50:24).

Notable Quotes:

• “Just knowing y’all…your dunk contest still the best, way…yes sir!”
  — DC Young Fly (47:39)
• “Growing up, man…back then the Hawks was Nathaniel but…”
  — Josh Smith (49:19)

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ATL Hawks and Falcons Real Talk (50:33 – 64:12)

• Hawks Critique: The need for a real “Dennis Rodman” type—rebounds, second-chance shots, and grit (50:48).
• Fan Pain: Falcons’ infamous Super Bowl collapse, the “pain-free” mindset of Atlanta fans, and persistent hope despite heartbreak (61:07 – 64:12).
• ATL vs Dallas Rivalry: Joe reveals he’s a Cowboy fan, but claims ATL as home (64:32).

Memorable Moment:

• “That Super Bowl…all we had to do was go one-to-nine…and we stopped doing everything we were doing…y’all ripped my heart out my chest.”
  — DC Young Fly (63:00)

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NBA Evolution: Three-Point Era, Big Men & Analytics (68:41 – 73:30)

• Style Changes: Debate on the explosion of three-point shooting (“It’s wild, I shot one three and didn’t get in no more the rest of the season.” — DC, 69:15).
• Power Forwards & Centers: Fewer traditional post players, more hybrid skills. “They don’t even make them like that no more…if you 6’8 now, you ain’t got no post game.” (70:11)
• Teams that buck trends: Shout-outs to OKC and the Knicks for midrange game and old-school toughness (71:39 – 72:53).

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Life & Sports—Personal Stories (54:33 – 60:58)

• Upbringing: All three discuss being raised in the church, family, and sports as an anchor.
• First Sports: Baseball for DC, basketball from the jump for Josh, with parental influence playing a key part.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NBA Investigations:
  “If we look at it from a standpoint, like, okay…we in a bidding war to try to get Kawhi…hell, I’m not saying, bruh, they paid the man under the table. What I’m saying is, it’s a good damn chance…”
  — ISO Joe (11:46)

• On Cade Cunningham’s Load:
  “He can get some action, people…maybe cut that in half, he can get some action.”
  — Josh Smith (28:40)

• Tony Allen's Take on LeBron:
  “Do you think LeBron starting out the game on KD to risk picking up two fouls? No, he’s gonna stick Sefolosha…game gets tight late down the stretch, in the last two, three minutes, you get a chase down block here and there, now you just all first-team all-defense? I disagree.”
  — Tony Allen (35:53 – 36:23, as replayed by ISO Joe)

• On Atlanta Teams & Fans:
  “I think the Hawks in good hands, bro…I think it's gonna be super good now.”
  — ISO Joe (51:10) “We pain freeze, bro…I’m in Atlanta everything.”
  — Josh Smith (61:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Kawhi investigation and implications: 09:17 – 17:59
• Ownership/Team culture & player impact: 13:08 – 17:59
• Modern player/agent relationships: 18:01 – 21:27
• Detroit’s free agency & Cade’s obstacles: 27:45 – 31:49
• NBA “revenge” season preview (Kyrie, JB, Philly): 31:18 – 34:57
• Tony Allen on LeBron’s defense: 35:28 – 41:04
• DC Young Fly joins the show: 46:12 – End
• ATL sports nostalgia and culture: 48:33 – 50:24; 61:06 – 64:12
• NBA three-pointer era & old-school shoutouts: 68:41 – 73:30

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Tone & Atmosphere

The show is raw, animated, and candid—constantly oscillating between deep analysis, trash talk, hometown pride, and plenty of inside jokes (“Pain freeze, bro…they owe me from that situation” — Josh, 61:33). The banter is playful but grounded in real-life experience and love for the game.

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Summary

This episode of Nightcap is a multi-layered, highly entertaining blend of breaking NBA news, insider perspective, honest retrospectives, and Atlanta cultural flavor. The hosts break down the consequences of the NBA’s biggest ongoing saga, the complexities facing both megastars and struggling franchises, and what really matters to players and fans alike. The appearance of DC Young Fly adds a fresh comedic energy and cements the show’s role as a meeting ground for sports legends and the next generation of Atlanta giants.

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[Josh Smith]

Ed, my guy. What it do? ISO Smooth.

[ISO Joe]

What's up, baby?

[Josh Smith]

What's good, baby? How you doing?

[ISO Joe]

Our man? Slow motion. You know how it is. You know how it is. Hey, look, check this out. I. I talked to a little birdie today, man, and T. Lou.

[Josh Smith]

Okay. All right, all right.

[ISO Joe]

I said. I said, T. Lou. I say, T. Lou what? I say what? Smooth like, bro. After he won that dunk contest in. In 05. Yeah, man, we.

[Joe]

We could.

[ISO Joe]

He said, hell, man, we couldn't tell Smooth nothing here. He walked. He said we could tell Smooth day. He said smooth doing what he want to around here, huh?

[Josh Smith]

Oh, man. Hey, man, home is home, man. Home is where the heart is, ain't it?

[ISO Joe]

Home is what a heart. Hey, I got a question, though. Real talk.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe]

In that dunk contest, did you already have your dunks pre made, bro? You were just going off the. Going off the. Wham with it.

[Josh Smith]

No, I had them pre made for sure. And I had. I had worked on them and had little routines and stuff like that before all that Before. Before the dunk contest happened.

[ISO Joe]

So look, so like what. What you was doing, like after practice, working on dunks and stuff like that?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, after practice, working on it. Then I went to the, you know, the equipment manager and them. I used to go to Wiley and Pete back there in the back and mess with them trying to find little Ideas and stuff like that.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, look, check this out. With these thousand, the youngest reach a thousand blocks. Hey, real talk, I know it's been a lot going on about LeBron, but real talk, you got. You, You. You. You out dueling when it come to them. Chase down blocks, bro.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I was Mr. Chase down before.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yes, sir. They tried to get it.

[Josh Smith]

Somebody.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, look, I remember. I remember. I used to tell her, hey, man, just cut him off. Just run and cut him off. I got it.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

I'm like, yeah, I'm a block it to you. You gonna get. I'm gonna get a block. You gonna get a rebound.

[Joe]

You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

Just.

[ISO Joe]

Just.

[Josh Smith]

Just make them.

[Joe]

Make them.

[Josh Smith]

Make them gather a little bit.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make him gather. Hey, you slap that thing out the glass, we gone. We off to the race.

[Josh Smith]

Hey, look, on the way down the court for an easy bucket for you.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. Tell me something. What you on. What you. What you own over there? Indica Sativa hybrid. What you.

[Josh Smith]

Man, look, Indica.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, okay, okay.

[Josh Smith]

You know I like to chill, okay,

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I. I understand, man. I understand. You know, we played in the NBA for quite some time, bro. It's a lot of wear and tear on your body. Smooth. You know, I got a lot of aches and pains over here, bro. Yeah, you still playing, you know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

At a high level, too.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hell, you happy for Steve Craig Be happy for us, too. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe]

That's all I'm saying, you know? Yeah, man. You know what it is. Hey, look, check this out.

[Commercial Narrator]

Smooth.

[ISO Joe]

You got.

[Joe]

We.

[ISO Joe]

We got this Kawhi investigation that can go on with the NBA into 2027 per Baxter Homes. They saying the NBA is investigating into whether the LA Clippers circumvented the salary cap to pay Kawhi Leonard. Say it could drag into 2027 if the parties don't agree on the findings or any proposed settlements that involves punishing the team. You know, so what they saying is they try. They basically trying to see. Bruh, did the Clippers play this man under the table? Bruh,

[Josh Smith]

Is that the same thing they did with that Milwaukee situation with the.

[ISO Joe]

Well, you know, but hold up, hold up now. You know, we had a. We had a teammate in Joe Smith, you know, who played for a minute, who played with us in Atlanta, but he played for the Minnesota Timberwolves at the time. You know, he was getting that under the table. Yeah. I mean, so My thing is, because it was such a war in between, okay, It's Kawhi. Is he gonna go to the Lakers or is he gonna go to the Clippers?

[Josh Smith]

Right?

[ISO Joe]

That's all I'm saying. I. I ain't saying. I ain't saying they did. But this investigation, obviously alleged.

[Josh Smith]

This is allegedly. Right. All this stuff.

[Commercial Narrator]

This, this.

[ISO Joe]

This is alleged. But I'm. I'm giving you the. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just giving you the information because, see, what you gotta understand is the Raptors are refusing to complete the trade for Kawhi because they're unwilling to take on the risk, the potential NBA. The. The. The penalties that's going to come from the NBA. This is per Ramona Shellburn. You know what I mean? She's an NBA insider. So, you know, this got some. This got some weight to it, bro.

[Josh Smith]

Got some legit. Okay, okay. It's legit. A little bit. Okay.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Cause I guess, think about it. If they. If they find something and let's say, you know, they do find some under the table stuff, the Raptors don't want to be on the hook for that. If they trade for him and they bring him to him now, he gets suspended for 50 games. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

So who get. Who gets penalized? The player gets penalized for that or.

[ISO Joe]

Well, they. They. They trying to find out, bro. Huh?

[DC]

The.

[Josh Smith]

The player of the organization gets fine. I mean, who gets penalized?

[ISO Joe]

I don't know. I just think if they find something to wear. Kawhi was getting paid under the table.

[Commercial Narrator]

Who.

[Josh Smith]

Who you think should get penalized?

[ISO Joe]

Well, they're gonna penalize both. They're gonna penalize the player and they gonna penalize the organization. That's just what it is. But I'm just saying. I'm saying if you look. If we look at it from a standpoint, like, okay, we're in a bidding war to try to get Kawhi to join our squad with the Lakers, who was our rival. I mean, hell, I'm not saying, bro, they paid the man under the table. What I'm saying is it's a. It's a good damn chance. That's all. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe]

You gotta think about it, bro. You know? Huh?

[Josh Smith]

It's some legitimate sources, for sure.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Well, you know, so, you know, when the Raptors say they ain't willing to take their risk, bro, they ain't willing to complete this trade. You know, he got traders.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, I've seen that. So that's why they. So that's why the. The trade wasn't completed. I was trying to figure out why they. Why they resent the trade back. Is that why it's.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, that's why it's. This investigation as far as trying to figure out, obviously, if he was. If he was getting money when nobody was getting paid. So we don't know, man. We don't know. Steve Ball is expected to aggressively fight the NBA legally if penalties are levine against him and Kawhi Leonard in the investigation. Meaning, you know, obviously, that's why I like Baldman, man.

[Josh Smith]

He's probably one of the top owners of the NBA, man.

[ISO Joe]

He probably got the most money. Smooth.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah, but that doesn't like. Okay, so does that make you the, you know, the best owner? You're one of the best owners. When I went to Houston. When I went to Houston, that was probably like one of my best stints, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like ownership and how they handle the players and how they let you be yourself. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know if he was one of the highest paid, but he was. He was really good owner, though.

[ISO Joe]

Was he?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, he was good, man.

[ISO Joe]

It's different, bro. You know, we. I've been around some. I've had some good owners. I thought we had some good owners here in, in.

[Josh Smith]

Well, in Atlanta.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, in Atlanta. What's my man name?

[Josh Smith]

It was a lot of them, boy. Yeah, we had about seven of them.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, but, but, but, but, you know, when owners are involved like that, bro, it does give a sense of. At least, you know, you give a damn to some degree. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, absolutely.

[ISO Joe]

You know, so I don't never see that a bad thing. I know you look, we see Mark Cuban, who was a. You know what I mean, who's always been on the sidelines, who's always been involved. So, yeah, I think it's a bad thing at the end of the day. Smooth. This ain't. This ain't how they make their money, bro. This is just a side gig for them.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, they had that money before they. They had that money before. Before the investment of the basketball team, for sure.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ramona Shellburn on Kawhi Leonard trade saga. She said, I can see a world in which Kawhi Leonard is back on the Clippers if this trade doesn't go through. And the Clippers, quite frankly, they ain't mad at that. Smooth. They saying they'll welcome his ass back. Open arms.

[Josh Smith]

I know they would. I know they would.

[ISO Joe]

They got a decent team over there, bro.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, they do. They do. How would that look for Kawhi, though? I mean, obviously, he'll. He'll be back the focal point of the offense, but how would that look for him? You know what I'm saying? Like, him coming back to a team that probably was possibly trying to trade

[ISO Joe]

him, man, listen, it's part of the business, bro. Yeah, he just came off statistically smooth, you know, one of his best years as a place, you know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

They play well.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I. I think. I think Kawhi is a guy who you probably could put in any system. You could probably put him in any system, bro, and he'll be able to fit in or stand out. Like, I just feel like, you know, he doesn't. It's not all about athleticism with him, obviously. He stays in great condition, as you can see, but he'll. If Toronto would have got him or if this trade is still able to go through. It changed the trajectory for the Raptors as far as them contending, bro. I mean, if they get him, it just changed.

[Joe]

I think if you.

[ISO Joe]

If you. Brandon Ingram, hell, you probably on the cuz, like, damn, you know? You know what I mean? Cause they sending you to the Clippers, and now you probably got to go back. You feel what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, right. And he probably was excited about that trade.

[ISO Joe]

You saying for him to get an

[Josh Smith]

opportunity, you know, going out there to la, you know, a little bit, you know, you know, you're a little bit more Hollywood now. You got that. You know, really,

[ISO Joe]

They. They. They. They building a little something out there with the Clippers, man. I like the youth that they got on their team. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens with this. With this whole ordeal. They say they trying to get it. They trying to get it done before the season start. What you think. You think they're gonna get this resolved?

[Josh Smith]

Like, as far as. As far as they're making a decision on the. The possible, like, suspensions and stuff like that.

[ISO Joe]

Or. Or if you don't find that. I'm just saying, man, we got a trade that's pending.

[Josh Smith]

Because you got to also consider. And put in the fact that he, you know, Steve Ballman told me he gonna fight. He gonna fight the NBA with that. Would that prolong the process?

[ISO Joe]

I don't know, bro. Maybe. But I think if both parties can come together and Come to some agreement. I mean, what. They probably looking for a smoothie. We keeping it a beam, bro. They ain't gonna find it. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe]

So. I don't know, bro. I don't know. I hope they get this thing squared away, though, right?

[Josh Smith]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe]

What else? What you been on today, bro?

[Josh Smith]

Man, just chilling, man. Took. Took my. What? Josh got back in town today. He was. He was out there in LA with. With Rondo.

[ISO Joe]

Putting that work in.

[Josh Smith]

Putting that work in. Yeah. Network in with. With his uncle and. And his. You know, it's because, you know, they family. You know, he family for sure. So.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Couldn't that work him and then being able to see. I think he was working out with Chris Johnson. I was able to see LeBron and Tyrese Maxey up there, so he got a little excited about that. Yeah, take a picture with the Atlanta. And if he kind of, you know, he was like, no, I ain't. Take one, you know? And I said, bro, you'll take you a picture. Stop playing like, you know what I mean? He was excited way.

[ISO Joe]

He was like, yeah, amen. Hey, take it to another level, bro. You know, when you build around greatness like that, you see what it looked like. You see how hard cats work, and at a young age, you take on that challenge, you embrace it, and you go out there and put that grind in, put that work in. Come on, man.

[Josh Smith]

The. The good thing about it, they was working out. They worked out right before them, so he was able to kind of like get to watch, you know, watch some of the workout and how. How they. How they work, how professionals work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so that was also good. That was good for him to be able to. To check out.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, that's what's up, man. You gotta. Hey, keep young and. Keep young and head straight, bro. Keep him going because he got, you know, he gonna have the talent, bro. You know, the. The grind that sold separately, homie. You know what? Tomorrow.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. Cause he. He got the height now. He like six, seven, six, six, seven and a half. Yeah, he growing. You know, he got the height. So it's all about, you know, putting out. Keep unlocking. Keep unlocking Pandora's box, man. Keep online, bro. Keep unlocking some skills. You know what I'm saying?

[ISO Joe]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, hey, hey. You gotta master the basics. Yeah, I mean, you master the basics, bro. The rest will come, like, do it

[Josh Smith]

till you don't skip. Yeah, we're gonna skip steps over here. Man.

[ISO Joe]

Yes, sir. Okay.

[Josh Smith]

So many. Yeah. So many players out here today that got agents. I'm trying to figure out why you got them. What you doing?

[ISO Joe]

They. Hey, hey, hey. They trying to hit a lick early, bro.

[Josh Smith]

Trying to hit a lick.

[ISO Joe]

What?

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[Josh Smith]

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[ISO Joe]

Bro, it's different because, hey, you being dead for you even before you even get a little piece of chain.

[Josh Smith]

I'm trying to tell you, because they got them. They got the advantage right now. You don't have no advantage, no leverage as a high school. They're trying to get an agent.

[ISO Joe]

You don't, bro. But that. But that's the game now. Smooth. They getting them early, bro, you know, before they can really peek, you know.

[Josh Smith]

And then that's when they. That's when they try to hit you with the man, I was loyal. I was down with you. You know what I'm saying? They hit you out of how the females just hit you in high school. You thought you were nothing in high school. Meanwhile, you top five. You're supposed to see the future now, Joe, you know what I'm saying? Looking right in front of us.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, you ain't lying, bro. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

You look at a step ahead. Them folks looking 10 years ahead. Oh, okay. I can see the potential. What you possibly could be. You know what I'm saying?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. So let me tap in real early before this thing.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yes.

[Josh Smith]

You feel bad if you try to leave me.

[ISO Joe]

Hell. Oh, man, come on, bro.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. I'll just put you down on it. You know, I'm just putting the. The world. These kids to be trying to. You know, I want y' all to get. I want y' all to get put, putting, putting that mix. The blender. Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, hold on. Check this out, man. Freaky. Hey, hey, Chat. Y' all. Hear me out, man. Freaking Ocho just wrote in the chat. He says, joe, they got some new rear end plugs. They glow in the dark to spice things up at home.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, that boy check.

[ISO Joe]

I mean, that's Osho Cinco, bro. He just.

[Josh Smith]

Ocho smooth.

[ISO Joe]

I ain't never seen nobody. Him and them. Them Some wild boys, man.

[Josh Smith]

They must have got them new hip replacements, man. They cutting up. Slow it down. And we're gonna take some years off of it, man. You understand? Yes, I know what to chill out and slow it down.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, listen, man, listen, listen, listen. You know them boys over the top. I feel like God dropped me here, bro. To keep them dudes same, man. I had to keep them boys under control, man. I'm more wild.

[Josh Smith]

You the glue, man. You the glue.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, man, I said, man, listen, boys ain't nothing but God. Somebody gotta slow these boy down. They can't be stopped though. Ocho just too much. Yeah, he. He way too much. He way too much.

[Josh Smith]

That's that Florida in the man. The Miami boy is different, man. Oh, we're a little different, man. Some of them down there twin.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, check this out.

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[ISO Joe]

Cunningham was very much involved in attempting to recruit players like Austin Reaves, Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, Kyrie Irving. This is, this is from the insider from Detroit, Vince Goodwill. Smooth Josh. Will. Will. Will Detroit become a premier free agent destiny in the K era,

[Josh Smith]

man? We gotta wait and see. You know what I'm saying?

[ISO Joe]

I'm saying, I'm saying for the free agents out there, man, what I'm saying, what Detroit got to offer, bro?

[Josh Smith]

I mean, you know, like, K take about what? How many shots K take a game?

[ISO Joe]

I don't know. He probably, I mean, 30 game, three shots. Probably close. Yes, probably close.

[Josh Smith]

Maybe cut that in half. He can get, he can get some action, people.

[ISO Joe]

Get some action from who?

[Josh Smith]

What you mean Anybody, Anybody gonna want to come in?

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, well, the thing is, you gotta understand. Smooth.

[Josh Smith]

But he cold, though.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, no, he cold. But, but that's what hurt him in the postseason, bro. Yeah, just, you know, not having enough scoring shots.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah. To him having to take all them shots.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, he had him having to take all them shots. And then you got Jalen Doran, who. But, you know, he wasn't a 20 and 10 beast, you know, in the postseason that he was in the regular season, you know what I mean? So they had to rely on guys.

[Josh Smith]

Tobias has some good games. No, Lavert has some good games too. They could. It was, it was some games where Lavert was going off and they just, you know, they subbed them out for somebody else that, that played, you know, valuable minutes in the regular season and it kind of, you know, it kind of hurt them, hurt him in one, one, a couple of those games.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I, I agree, I agree. I thought Tobias was huge in the postseason.

[Josh Smith]

Cleveland, right?

[ISO Joe]

Huh?

[Josh Smith]

Didn't they, did they they lose to Cleveland?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, they lost to Cleveland in seven. Yeah, yeah, but they, they needed some more scoring, bro. It was too much on, on Cade. And I think if you get guy, if you could get, if you could have got, you know, a guy like Austin Reeves, hell, even Kevin Durant. But I'll be honest, my favorite. Who I wish Detroit could get and possibly it possibly could still happen is Kyrie, bro. I think it, huh.

[Josh Smith]

Think it could happen?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I think it's possible. I just think he's, that he's, he was that missing piece, bro, who could have took over games. It wouldn't even win seven with Cleveland if Kyrie was in Detroit. You feel me? Yeah, like, you know, all he needed give up, though. I mean, I don't know. You have to, you, you, hey, if you Detroit, you have to figure that out. But if you can make that happen, let's say, okay, for instance, let's just say Dallas don't get off to a great start, and they, they willing to get off Kyrie. I ain't saying it's gonna happen. Maybe stay in Dallas. Maybe it works out right? But I, I just, I just love the way he plays. I love his patience. I love his poise to the game, his understanding of the game, on how to, you know, get to his spots, get a bucket. But not only that, but be effective and make plays and, and make guys around him better.

[Josh Smith]

And I think he had a revenge story too. Man, I seen him work out well. I went to top 100 camp, and he was just giving the campers a lesson on, you know, how he works out and how he prepares and stuff like that. And, man, just, just looking at him as, you know, knowing the game and the basketball player, he, you know, he's coming back with Avengers this, this year,

[ISO Joe]

I think, hey, you know what?

[Josh Smith]

Got something to prove, man.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, it's funny you say that, bro. Cause when I sit back and think about it, it's a few cats move. Who, who, who coming into this season with revenge, bro. You know, I, I, I mean, I mean, you look at Kyrie, who you just mentioned, you look at Braun, you look at J.B. you know, these guys who've been traded and sue, man, I think, yeah, y'. All. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Y' all is gonna come back on some on Demon time.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, man, he gonna be downhill Demon. You right. You're right. Hey, he ain't gon they. Hey, hey, I think the thing with the Heat, though. They got to put. They got to put a couple more, you know, good veteran pieces around him as far as keeping the floor space. Make sure you got some good shooting. And I think he gonna attract so much attention, bro, because you already know you can't give him no crease or no crack. He get in there, it's a rap. You feel me?

[Josh Smith]

Facts, facts.

[ISO Joe]

So, yeah, it's gonna be a few guys, bro. Who gonna be on this. This revenge tour? I mean, you look at, I. I know they've been the headlines, but we've been talking about Philly. But it ain't just Braun, bro. It's JB to me. You know what I mean? Smooth. Think about it.

[Josh Smith]

I like him a lot, man. People like. Like, people really don't give him the credit that he deserves. Like, just. I look at. I look at what people do when star players are down and they say, oh, what you gonna do without these. This player and that player? And they still. They still like one or two in the.

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In.

[Josh Smith]

In the Eastern Conference, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, top three with pretty much the whole year with.

[ISO Joe]

With.

[Josh Smith]

With jb, you know what I'm saying? A supporting cast. And he was. He looked like one of the best players in the league.

[ISO Joe]

Looked like hell he was. What you mean?

[Josh Smith]

I'm talking like the two, man.

[ISO Joe]

Like, what.

[Josh Smith]

What position they consider him at? Like, he probably, like, the best two guard in the league. That's what I'm saying, bro. Like, the best two guard for sure.

[ISO Joe]

When you talk about locking up smooth, causing havoc, you. Hey, you know, a dude got great endurance, bro. He picked. Huh?

[Josh Smith]

They give him second team.

[ISO Joe]

They give him second team.

[Josh Smith]

He goes, second team. All NBA. Did they do that? Did they do that to him?

[ISO Joe]

You know what? I'm sure he made the all NBA.

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[ISO Joe]

I'm not sure what team he made, though. I'm not sure, but with his productivity, bro, I just think, like you said,

[Josh Smith]

with the endurance, though, defense. And you got to get a bucket on the other end. You like. They depending on you to get a

[ISO Joe]

bucket both sides, bro. Hey, hey, not only are they depending on you to get a bucket here, they depending on you to get a

[Josh Smith]

stop on Luka Dantich.

[ISO Joe]

Hear me?

[Josh Smith]

Something like that.

[ISO Joe]

I think. Hey, bro, I think Philly. I know we've been talking about this for quite some time, bro, but I think Philly gonna be nice. I think Philly gonna be nice.

[Josh Smith]

This is gonna be. It's gonna. It's gonna be how they. How they Rotate the. They gotta find the right rotation, you know. I mean.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, you have to figure that out early.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, they gotta wrote. They gotta figure out the rotations. They gotta get that down.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, it. It probably. You know, it probably takes some adjusting preseason to be cool, but you really won't get the full effect. You know, when the season first start, they may get off to. I ain't gonna say rocket start, you know, probably play 500 basketball for a. To pull away and streak some wins together. But I think they got the total team everybody talking about, man. Can't none of them shoot. They ain't sh. Man, please watch out and boy, lock in.

[Josh Smith]

I'm telling you.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Hey, it's not shot takers, though.

[ISO Joe]

What'd you say?

[Josh Smith]

It's shot makers, not shot takers. It ain't about. It ain't about being a shooter.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Shooters still gotta make shots too.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, you. Hey.

[Joe]

Cause.

[ISO Joe]

Cause see, they gonna carry that confident in that swag, bro. To. To. To be effective. I'm saying on both end, I think all of them. But it's gonna. Hey, the NBA gonna be fun coming up, bro. It's gonna be a sight to see. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah. Facts.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, check this out. You know your boy went viral, man. He going viral. Tony Allen.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, okay.

[ISO Joe]

He says LeBron is an overrated defender. Never guarded KD in his prime. And OKC. I mean, hey, hey, Chat, chat. Let's take a listen. Let's take a listen to ta.

[Joe]

No, but just think about it.

[Josh Smith]

Any team you put LeBron on, we

[Joe]

can make any scenario when they play.

[ISO Joe]

Let's just say OKC. Do you think LeBron starting out the

[Joe]

game on KD to risk picking up two fouls? No, he's gonna stick self aloe.

[ISO Joe]

So you got 41 minutes of sticking

[Joe]

self alosia game get tight late down the stretch.

[ISO Joe]

In the last two, three minutes, you get a chase down block here and there.

[Joe]

Then now you get to win. Now you just our first team ball defense. I disagree.

[ISO Joe]

Chase down blocks.

[Joe]

I disagreed.

[ISO Joe]

I disagree.

[Josh Smith]

Me on the other hand. Hey, it's all right, ta.

[Joe]

We gonna need you to come through on this one. You got. You can't let him get his average

[Josh Smith]

and he end up with 40.

[Joe]

I get a few more episodes of

[ISO Joe]

that, I'm gonna be in the G League. You see what I'm saying?

[Joe]

That was my job. That was my title.

[ISO Joe]

That's what I had to do.

[Josh Smith]

That's how I played 14 years.

[ISO Joe]

It wasn't because I had a Cold

[Joe]

crossover if you know, you saw me smoke all the layups.

[ISO Joe]

Yep.

[Josh Smith]

But guess what?

[Joe]

I bring you not getting your average to the table every night.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Oh, I've been getting them, too. Come on.

[Joe]

Disagreeing. I wasn't hating, man.

[ISO Joe]

I was just saying he's not a better defender. Smooth. What you. What you think about. What you think about what Ta said, bro? You. I'm saying, like, what was the question? So listen, so here it is.

[Josh Smith]

So look, I ain't saying a better defender than LeBron or. What was it? What was the question?

[ISO Joe]

Nah, he's saying. He's saying Braun ain't no lockdown defender. He's saying that, you know, when games start off Braun, it ain't like Braun Garden KD for the whole game. It may put somebody else. He may put. They may put Braun on self. Alosia so he don't pick up two fouls early. But then in the last seconds of the game in the fourth quarter, Brian get a chase down block or something. He get a stop. He's saying that ain't like, you know, that ain't first team. That ain't like. You know what I'm saying?

[Josh Smith]

What you think, bro? I got snubbed a lot of times on the defensive team, so I don't know, man.

[ISO Joe]

Yo. Hey, hey, hey. But I think I. I think got

[Josh Smith]

snubbed a whole lot.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, you did, bro.

[Josh Smith]

But did he ever guard? Did who? When we played. When we played it, who guarded you?

[ISO Joe]

Well, you know, he never. To start the games off. He never guarded me, but Smooth. That's kind of understood, bro.

[Josh Smith]

That's understood. That's understandable because we can't rest. I can't. Yeah, I mean, he's making. He's making sense out of. He making sense out of it. You know what I'm saying, bro?

[ISO Joe]

When I was a rookie, Smooth. And I'm playing with Antoine Walker and Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce, third in the league and scoring at 27, 28 a game. He the starting three, I'm the starting two. Listen, we playing against T. Mac, Vince Carter, Ray Allen. I got all these dudes for the first three quarters, bro. That's what it was. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, that was me, too, though. I, you know. You know, that was me. I had to, you know, I had to guard pretty much every position. That was. That was cold. So, yeah, I mean, I get what he's saying. I get what he's saying, but that doesn't mean that he's not a great defender, though. You know what I mean, bro? He just. That means that he has more value than a person just playing defense, respectfully.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

You know what I'm saying? Like, we can, we can, we can, we can bank on you. Like, it's okay for you to file out, but we can't.

[Joe]

We.

[Josh Smith]

This, this dude can't foul out.

[ISO Joe]

Right, right.

[Josh Smith]

Not LeBron James. You get what I'm saying?

[ISO Joe]

That. What I'm saying. But, but, but, but in, in NTA's defense, I understand what he's saying, because there are times when you start off the game, hell, you don't got no choice. When we played against the Miami Heat and D. Wade, I ain't got no choice. Me and D. Wade gotta guard each other the whole damn game.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe]

You know what I'm saying? That's just what it was. So I see what TA saying, but I think LeBron is above average defender, bro. He. I mean, smooth. He. 2008, 2009, he finished second defensive player of the year behind Dwight Howard. 2012, 2013, he finished second behind Mark Gasol. I think this really would have come down to smooth. You want me to keep it real with TA and Braun, you know, obviously TA playing with the Celtics, you know what I'm saying? That little rivalry they had against Cleveland when he was in Braun, even in Miami, but not on top of that, maybe even some of the things that Braun may have said about Memphis, you know, how ta, TA and Z Bo out the mud.

[Josh Smith]

They.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, them boys, Memphis to their die. You hear me?

[Commercial Narrator]

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[ISO Joe]

Facts, big facts, you know what I'm saying? It can be stemming from a lot of different things, bro. You never know. But when I think about it, I'm like, hold on. Th is out here wilding. He must be.

[Josh Smith]

We gotta do a wellness check on them black trucks ain't pull up on them.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I don't know.

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[Josh Smith]

See nutrition facts on Hero Co that crush man, please. Yeah. You know that gas ain't gonna have you talking like that, man.

[ISO Joe]

Huh?

[DC]

What it do?

[Josh Smith]

Oh, there you go.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, what's happening?

[Josh Smith]

What's happening?

[ISO Joe]

What's up baby? Hey, what you got going man?

[DC]

Slow motion. Tell me something Jo.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, man, listen. Hey, me Old Boy Smooth Josh Smith. You feel me? We is on kickback, first of all,

[DC]

man, with some real great ATL legends.

[ISO Joe]

Hello?

[Josh Smith]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe]

Hello?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, hello.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, we appreciate you.

[DC]

As soon as they called me. As soon as they called me, said what? I said, what? Is nothing.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, we appreciate you. We appreciate your time, bro. We appreciate. Hey, what you got going, man?

[Josh Smith]

What's.

[ISO Joe]

What's new with you guys? Any movies, comedy shows? What you got going, man?

[DC]

We working right now. I'm going back. You dig what I'm saying? Finna go crazy. We got some short verticals finna pop off. You dig what I'm saying? So we got some more music finna pop off. You dig what I'm saying?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

Hey, man, I'm on that. Hey, og.

[ISO Joe]

Hey. Hey. You don't never stop working, do you, man?

[DC]

No, I don't even know how to do that. I'm really trying to fit. I'm trying to put sleep into my schedule.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, man, I love seeing you on Wilding now. I love seeing what you're doing with 85 South. You, Carlos, you Chico, bro.

[DC]

Yes.

[ISO Joe]

Hey. Hey, you boys some real fools over there, man. We appreciate everything y' all do, bro.

[DC]

We really do, man. We've been watching y', all, man, since we were jits. And just, you know, I mean, it's just an honor. Just every time I see you at the. At the arena, you feel what I'm saying? I always show love. Cause I remember the times when I used to come down there and watch y'. All. I remember the time I used to come down there and watch you, John. You feel what I'm saying? So just knowing y' all and you feel I'm gonna still be real, your dunk contest still the best way. You hear me, sir?

[Josh Smith]

Appreciate it.

[ISO Joe]

I remember I took my daughter, bro, to the house game. Smooth. It was about a year, year and a half ago. And I walk in there, I see DC on fly ti2 chain. I said, damn. Did y' all get out the same car okay?

[Joe]

Hey, listen.

[Josh Smith]

To Atlanta, man. Welcome to Atlanta.

[DC]

Actually, I got a question for y'.

[Josh Smith]

All.

[ISO Joe]

Like, what's up?

[DC]

Now that you see how the city is embracing the Hawks, bro, Do you remember a time when people was coming to come see the house? Like, has there ever been a time where folk were really were just pulling up? Like, I remember probably when Dominique were playing, but, like, it was an ever

[Josh Smith]

one, they were kind of pulling up for the other. What names?

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, after about. I ain't Gonna lie to you, dc, after it took us about three years, I got here the first two years, they were brutal. I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe]

They were.

[ISO Joe]

They were brutal.

[DC]

After they picked up. When you came, first of all, when you came, it gave super excitement. Like.

[Josh Smith]

Hey, that's facts though.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, that's one thing.

[Josh Smith]

So growing up, growing up, man, you know, man, the town went down, then the Hawks. But Nathaniel but.

[DC]

And the crazy part about it, we want to chill form like. We want to chill. You feel what I'm saying? So, yeah, just seeing the energy now, like in the arena, bro, they like, hell yeah.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, look, that's all. That's. That's how I always. That's how I always envisioned it, bro. You know, when I came here, like, the city jumping too hard, bro. It's a capital entertainment. It's like you have so many guys coming out, you know what I mean?

[DC]

Right?

[Josh Smith]

Excellence, man.

[DC]

It's wide open.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah. Hey, so speaking of that, dc, what you think about the Hogs, bro? What you what our chances look like considering the fact now we know the close out game. Hey, the closeout game was ugly. We know that.

[Joe]

We.

[ISO Joe]

We leave that alone. We ain't even got. Look how the Knicks did every damn body else.

[DC]

Okay, but look, I do say that we gave the Knicks they energy. They oomph.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

In the kick ass.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

They ever since them. Them two wins. We got them boys turned up and did not stop. They did. You dig what I'm saying? I'm gonna be real, bro. I like to be. I. I feel like we need a real solid. I want to say, big man, because we got some big man. I only want to say we need a Dennis Rodman show.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. You saying yeah. We need somebody to wipe that glass.

[DC]

We need somebody to go get third chance shots because the Hawks we good off our first chance shot.

[ISO Joe]

After that, if we miss, it's a rap.

[DC]

It's a rap. It's a rap.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, listen, I think the Hawks in good hands, bro. I think it's gonna be a. I

[DC]

think it's gonna be super good now.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah, it's gonna be even better. Hey, look, look, look. Hey, look, when we. When me and you was there, you know, we was all me, you, two chains and TI. Two chains already he been had, you know, his season tickets. We talking about. Hey, hey, hey. We talking about season tickets, right? Smooth. So look, yeah, after we got through talking about season tickets, I look up DC got him a damn job in there. He like, hey, I'm good. Hey, I feel you, though, bro. Hey, you know what?

[Commercial Narrator]

The city.

[ISO Joe]

You know, the city love you, bro. They embrace you. You know what I mean? Especially when you do the little halftime things when you interview people.

[DC]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe]

If I'm keeping it real, dc, when we did that interview about that was last season, when we did that interview at the Hawks, everything kind of changed, bro. People started hitting me out today as far as trying to get. Trying to do different things, because I don't. I hadn't done a lot of interviews and things like that. You know what I mean?

[DC]

Right, right.

[ISO Joe]

I want to appreciate you, bro. I want to appreciate you for that opportunity, my dude.

[DC]

Oh, man, they love, man. And, you know, that's what our platforms is for, bro. You fear me to just cross brand and. And show another side of people. You feel what I'm saying? Like, we. We ain't got to go talk to the other side. You feel me? We can go talk to our people. And when we had these type of conversations, bro, like, you got. You also got to understand, people don't be understanding that we really tight. We really cool. So when they see us kicking in, when they see us having these conversations and they get to hear our intellect, they like, oh, that's who these folk really is. Okay.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

Oh, it made me respect their game way more, you feel?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

So anytime, OG. Anytime.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, man. We. You know what? Me and. Me and Smooth might have to pull up over there on you and Carlos and Chico, man. Y', all.

[Joe]

What'd you say?

[Josh Smith]

Smooth got to go 85.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, and my boy Nav over there, too. My boy.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, that's my guy right there. That's my dog. For real. That my Potter Potter right there.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, man. Hey. Hey, last time I talked to you, too, I know. You were telling me about that knee, man. You get that knee fixed, you get.

[DC]

Hey, man, the meniscus whiskeys is all the way good. We back. We back in the gym. We back playing golf, y'. All. Boy.

[ISO Joe]

Boy, what you say? What's my high? Yeah, you know, you catch me on a good day, DC. I bowl like a. I bowl like a 220 or something.

[Josh Smith]

Two.

[ISO Joe]

Two.

[DC]

That cool.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I like that.

[DC]

That cool.

[Josh Smith]

That's my.

[ISO Joe]

What about you? You like that? Like that?

[DC]

Oh, I got 279.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, man. Come on, bro.

[DC]

Yeah, I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying to get that 300, man. That my goal.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, man, you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Smooth, he want them. Dude. You don't want to go bowling with him, bro.

[Commercial Narrator]

Man.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, he got six. Bowling? Oh, he.

[DC]

Okay,

[ISO Joe]

hold on. So you in bowling leagues and all that?

[DC]

It depends on how the lane is. I gotta adjust, man. You feel me?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah. I like the old school thing.

[DC]

It get real critical, man.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, listen. I know. I know all us pretty much grew up in church, I think D.C. usually. What? Youngest of seven.

[DC]

Youngest, yeah. Eight. Youngest eight, yeah.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. You grew up in church, bro?

[DC]

Yes, sir. All day, every day. My dad was 61 when he had me, so, you know. Yeah, man. Chico called me a great player.

[Josh Smith]

Don't play with me.

[DC]

Chico called me a grandbrother.

[Josh Smith]

Oh.

[DC]

You feel me? So just having that spiritual, you know what I'm saying? Foundation, bro. It kind of kept me intact. It kept me in line. You feed me anytime that, you know, I felt like I was being deteriorated or I ain't feeling like doing something, but I stopped. Spirit always had me, you know what I'm saying? Kept me in check. The flesh is weak, my boy.

[ISO Joe]

Hello.

[Josh Smith]

Hello.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, Smooth.

[Joe]

Smooth.

[ISO Joe]

You grew up in church, bro?

[Josh Smith]

Hopefully, man. Hopefully. Like he did. Like he did. Thank God for basketball. My mom was trying to put my tall ass in the choir. Telling my mom, you're gonna go ahead and go whoop me, man. Six, five. Catching the Holy Ghost fake trying to get. Man, I can't do that, man.

[ISO Joe]

You gotta chill. You gotta. I ain't like, sitting in the back, man.

[Josh Smith]

You know, I used to make back there laughing, you know, kissing the Holy Ghost, man.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, the same way over here, bro. I grew up Baptist.

[DC]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe]

I never forget, boy. Hey, come down, Smooth.

[Joe]

Smooth.

[ISO Joe]

Dc, I ain't gonna lie to you. You know, my grandma made me get in the choir. That's just what it was. You know what I mean?

[DC]

You had to join the festivities. He did nothing until you was a deacon. I'm like, I'm 11. What am I planning, man? I'm in here training to be a deacon.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, Facts. Hey, Facts, boy. Hey. Until you've been a deacon and you had to get up in that choir and you had to get up there on Sunday, on Easter Sunday and say that, boy, you ain't done nothing. No, don't talk to me about it. That's the hardest thing I had to do in life.

[Josh Smith]

I couldn't do it.

[ISO Joe]

But you were.

[Josh Smith]

You a strong. You're strong. You was a strong one for that one, Joe.

[DC]

Hey, but I had to get.

[Josh Smith]

I had to get my ass whooped. I was cool with the whooping, man.

[DC]

Did y' all ever play for the church league?

[ISO Joe]

Huh?

[DC]

Did y' all ever play for the church?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, I did. I did.

[Josh Smith]

I did, too. I did, yeah. No cussing.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, listen, you know, when I. When we were young, we were coming up, bro, any league that we could play and say we ain't. It ain't like today, right? You know, all these kids got trainers and all that. You know what I mean? You see, everybody got a trainer now. All we did was.

[T-Mobile Rep]

Was who?

[ISO Joe]

So if the church league was jumping, we were playing in the church league on Sunday. They hooping up at the court. We going to play at the court with the fell. You know what I mean? Anywhere they was hooping, that's how we got better.

[DC]

Dc, I'm gonna be real. I thought I. I thought I was y' all in my head, bro. I really. I ain't gonna lie if I put. I do whatever I put my mind to. But I realized when I go see y' all play, I'm like, no, that was not what you were supposed to be doing. Like, y' all is great. Like, y' all gotta. It's a certain physique of an NBA player where, like, Brian hit. No, Grossbert. I was like, 19. Yeah. To me, I'm five fold. Until I was like, 19. I'm six one. I'm six one. Smooth.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, when did you know you really had a chance, bro, to make it to the league? I'm saying, like, that was the plan the entire time.

[Josh Smith]

I was just trying to play basketball, you know what I mean?

[ISO Joe]

I'm saying, even, like, in junior high and all that, I didn't know.

[Josh Smith]

I had no idea, you know what I'm saying? Then now you. Now you get older, you be like, okay, I see why my dad did this. Like, right? He quit his job when I was in high school. He was at home a little more, you know what I'm saying?

[DC]

Yeah, he knew.

[Josh Smith]

Like, now I know. Like, man, I gotta stay close to this little. You know, this little nigga. So I'm like, shit, okay, cool. I got. I ain't understanding until, like, my senior in high school, my dad gave me a little talk, you know what I'm saying? Because I still was thinking about going to college. I was talking about going to Indiana and all that. He was like, bro, we ain't doing that.

[DC]

We ain't doing that,

[ISO Joe]

Boy. Hey, I love Pete, boy. Hey, we might have to get old school on. We had to get Pete. Hey, that's real Atlanta right there. I don't know if you.

[Josh Smith]

He from Albany, but, you know, we was over there. Ben Hill. You know what I'm saying? He played. Yeah, that why. That why I started playing, you know what I'm saying? Basketball at. Over there at Ben Hill.

[DC]

And why you got good? Good?

[Josh Smith]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Started with where? Really? Yeah, with the real. With the real pros happening.

[ISO Joe]

That's how you learn how to play, bro.

[Josh Smith]

You know how you put the little. The court together. Yes, they had that back in the day, you know.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey. But that's how you learn, bro. When we was kids, bro, we just played.

[DC]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

You know, we.

[ISO Joe]

We just played the game.

[Josh Smith]

What you played?

[ISO Joe]

Coming up, bro.

[DC]

What's going on? You know what I play? I played baseball all the way to the end. That's how I know. I'm real good at that. I played everything. Bay ball, football, basketball. But baseball. For show. For show. I know I talk a lot of. About everything else but baseball. For sure. I can back that up. All day, every day.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. You played any other sports?

[Josh Smith]

No, straight. Straight basketball. I tried to throw the helmet on my dad with not playing.

[DC]

Ooh. He wasn't going for it.

[Josh Smith]

Middle school. I like. I want to play back. I want to play football. He like, but hell no. So I was like. I had. He went on the road because he drove trucks. I had slide slid over there to my mama. Mom got to sign me up. So when he came home. When he came home, he seen the pants on the ground where he gave it to me, boy. And ain't buying your dumb ass no cleats. I was out there slipping and sliding, goddamn my life. But I was like, man, you know what, man? I ain't. I ain't playing no more, man.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah. I already know. Hey, hey, hey. Speaking of football. Speaking of football. What's up, y'? All Falcons fans? What's up?

[Josh Smith]

Absolutely.

[DC]

Okay.

[ISO Joe]

Keep it a bean.

[Joe]

Keep it a bean.

[Josh Smith]

I got.

[DC]

I gotta take a drink.

[Josh Smith]

I'm a pain free.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, he finna tell a lie if he gotta take a drink.

[Josh Smith]

I need to take me a drink too, bro.

[ISO Joe]

What's going on?

[DC]

Smooth.

[Josh Smith]

We pain freeze, bro. I mean, I. I'm. I'm in Atlanta everything. Braves.

[DC]

That's what I'm saying. I'm in Atlanta everything.

[Josh Smith]

But you know what I'm saying?

[DC]

They owe me, man.

[Josh Smith]

They owe me, too. They owe me a couple times. They owe me from that situation. They owe me.

[DC]

I didn't even recover from that.

[Josh Smith]

No, no. Even if. No, that was the one, bro. He had to sit here so Much on fire, bro. Oh, my God.

[DC]

I don't think people listen to me. I ain't seen a lot of people.

[Ryan Reynolds]

People.

[Josh Smith]

I've never seen it.

[DC]

Like, I ain't really get a chance to see Jordan play. I saw AI at the end, bro. We didn't have TV like that. But my phone wasn't even watching. You feel me? We weren't going to no games, bro. I actually got a chance to see that. I used to hear stories. I used to. We used to sit down and watch this as a family.

[Josh Smith]

I'm in high school.

[DC]

Greatest. Greatest thing we ever had, bro.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, man.

[DC]

I ain't seen nothing like it.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah,

[DC]

we needed that, man. Listen,

[Josh Smith]

man, I was excited where I was, but that was. That was crazy, bro.

[DC]

I remember. Let me tell you something. Let me break it down for you. I was talking so much. Let me tell you something. This is why I'm so mad, bro. Cause them could have walked my ass in there, bro. Them were like faulty D. I'm in there saying, boy, you know me.

[Josh Smith]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah.

[DC]

It's all that.

[Josh Smith]

And we playing the Patriots.

[DC]

It's three of 28. Three. I'm talking so much cash money. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go take a smoke break. I'm chilling. We won this by third quarter. My energy change by the fourth quarter. I remember this like it was yesterday. We done transferred spots to go watch the game. Now I'm at a whole nother house, but I'm glued to the tv, though. Jail life. We down in four minute. Now, listen. When he caught the ball on his helmet.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah.

[DC]

My heart started being fastest. Listen. Because I knew something was up. I said, I know they not about to do this. I know they not about to do this, man. Don't. Folks scored again. Game and the score was still 28. Them folk came all the way back from three point. All we had to do was go one to nine, and we stopped doing everything we were doing in the first quarter. That why. That why I love the Falcon, but. But y' all ripped my heart out. My chair then, boy.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, man. Hey, hey, hey. Y' all know I know, man. Hey, hey. I apologize, bro. They built that Mercedes, that beautiful stadium right after that, thinking they were gonna make it right back. Yeah. I mean, I ain't trying to rub it in on y'.

[Josh Smith]

All.

[ISO Joe]

I'm just saying, bro, why I like going to the game.

[Josh Smith]

Hold on. What are you, though? Can I. Are you still.

[ISO Joe]

I'm a Cowboy fan. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I'm a Cowboy fan. Listen, D.C. hey,

[DC]

cowboy. Cowboy.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I'm from Little Rock, bro. So, you know. Hey, man.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, my God.

[ISO Joe]

The closest thing to us is Dallas, bro. I've been a Cowboy fan. I was born in it. You know what I'm saying?

[DC]

I understand that.

[ISO Joe]

So, listen, I don't know if we play the Falcon this year, but if we do, man, me, you and Smooth can, you know, put a little something on it, you know?

[Josh Smith]

Oh, absolutely.

[ISO Joe]

I don't, you know, I don't mind.

[DC]

Oh, you talking about on the Falcons.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, you gonna. I know you gonna bet.

[Josh Smith]

We gotta get our quarterback situation.

[ISO Joe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You don't think they gonna.

[Josh Smith]

Oh, man.

[ISO Joe]

Excuse me.

[DC]

Jay, why you keep doing it? Why y' all keep doing it?

[ISO Joe]

Hold on.

[DC]

They gonna keep the same conversation every year. Do you think we know?

[ISO Joe]

No, hold up.

[DC]

I'm gonna tell you when. When I'm telling you. What we gonna have to do is, first of all, we gotta stop. I don't know. What's our quarterback status now?

[Josh Smith]

That's what I'm trying to figure out previous. Oh, yes, sir.

[DC]

Giving guaranteed money to injured players who was already injured coming off the injury list. Let me tell you something. We ain't had a quarterback to finish a season, so let that sink in. And he got guaranteed money.

[ISO Joe]

Amen.

[DC]

So who money is that? We. I'm not gonna keep doing that. I'm gonna go watch these hulks, and y' all gonna have to tell me about it later.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Speak. Speaking of that. Hey, what? Hey, hey. We got a video I want to show man you jumped off the trampoline at.

[DC]

Come on, baby.

[Josh Smith]

Right there. But this is.

[ISO Joe]

Hold on. Here we go. Hey, y', all check DC out right here.

[Joe]

Yeet.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, D.C. tell the truth. That it's a lot harder than what people think, though, ain't it?

[DC]

Hey, people don't understand. First of all, you, you, you. People watching. People act like they ain't watching, but they watching. You almost 15, 20ft away from the goal, bro.

[ISO Joe]

You hear me?

[DC]

You ain't. No. So when them Bobby doing them flips, you got to respect that, you feel me? I missed the first one. I had to time it, but once I got it, oh, I was up.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hold on. You know back there with a little tumbler, be practicing that back there. Yeah, bro. You know, that was our practice facility when I played for the Hall.

[Joe]

That's what.

[ISO Joe]

We practice that every day back in

[DC]

the back where the tumblers be at.

[ISO Joe]

That's what we used to practice at every day. Dc.

[DC]

Dang. So y' all ain't had no practice facility?

[ISO Joe]

That's what we had, bro. That what we had. So listen, the entryway, bruh.

[DC]

Y' all were not practicing in the back entrance, bro.

[ISO Joe]

Dc, we were hosting. Dc. Dc. We were hosting training camp there, bro. That's what we were. That's what we were doing. Everything every day. We had to go there to go to practice, bro.

[DC]

Through the entrance. Y' all would stay right there and practice.

[Josh Smith]

Locker room to the left, the. The practice to the right. That little entryway thing to the right.

[ISO Joe]

You know that little practice flow. It's a little practice flow down there. Practice court. It's got two. Yeah, that what I'm talking about.

[DC]

Oh, dang. But now they don't build the whole vicinity.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. They got. They got a real country club now.

[DC]

Yeah, they juiced up now.

[ISO Joe]

They got it. They got it. They got a real country club. It's a little different now.

[DC]

Yeah, juiced up now.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, expectations are a lot different. You know what I mean?

[DC]

That's why we be on them. Because, listen, we want y' all boy to be successful. Because look at all the things we provided.

[ISO Joe]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[DC]

I think we're gonna be great this year.

[ISO Joe]

We're gonna be busting, bro. Hey, hey. We should come. We should come into the season, bro.

[DC]

Oh, oh. Can I ask y' all a question? Because y' all played the game.

[Joe]

What's that?

[DC]

Cause y' all played the damn game. Do be real now. How y' all feel about these three pointers?

[ISO Joe]

Oh, how the game is played today?

[DC]

It's wild, bro. Because when I was coming up, bro, you shoot that three, you get you getting out the game.

[Josh Smith]

They used to be on my head. That's why I'm like, I only take three.

[DC]

I shot one three and didn't get in no more decision. That's what I'm trying to tell these. It's hard out here. Y' all do that.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, hold on.

[Josh Smith]

Smooth.

[ISO Joe]

What you say you did?

[Josh Smith]

I said I'll take about three a game. They used to boo the shit out of me for about one and a half foot. I'm like, these.

[ISO Joe]

These.

[Josh Smith]

These KD shoot. They take eight, nine threes a game, you know? You know, but it's like.

[ISO Joe]

I mean, it's.

[Josh Smith]

It's crazy. Cause a lot of these teams are falling into analytics, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, so you. It's like it's like what if an analytic is a what if, you know what I'm saying? Like if you shoot these threes, like, okay, if I shoot eight threes, they're banking on a person that make three or four. But it's like, what if I can't shoot right?

[DC]

And what if you don't get second to third chance rebound or if I'm

[Josh Smith]

not even really working on shooting threes but you're encouraging me to shoot right?

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, right, Right.

[DC]

We're really not making a play for real. Everybody's standing at the three point line like it's a rotation pass, like we're looking at rotation ball.

[Josh Smith]

I want to see, I want to see more kids getting dunked on, man. That's what I want to see.

[ISO Joe]

Y' all gotta understand, man, the game has changed, bro. It's trained, it's changed drastically. Meaning smooth. When we, when we first came in, you, you played with two traditional bigs, a power forward and a center. And it wasn't one whole lot of your power four shooting threes at that time. And hell, none of your centers were shooting smooth. You probably one of the only hybrids in the game at that time.

[DC]

Yeah, you gotta receive wildlace, who will come in and bust a move.

[Josh Smith]

Yeah,

[DC]

them exceptions.

[ISO Joe]

Yeah, it ain't it. It, it, it. They don't, they don't even make them like that no more, fellas. Cause look, guess what, you know, back then, bro, when you were 6, 5, 6, 6 in high school, they probably gonna put you under the basket. Six, eight. You're gonna be under the basket.

[T-Mobile Rep]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe]

Now if you six, eight, six, now you working on your guard skill, you ain't got no back to the basket game. You ain't got no post game. You know what I mean?

[Josh Smith]

But you see the ones that still work on it, how effective and how, how good they look, how dominant they look. Like Nicole and Joel.

[DC]

Yes.

[ISO Joe]

Oh, no, listen, the great ones see, to win the game, it's always going to be within between the lines. Meaning like the three pointer and the midi. What we call the midi, bro.

[Josh Smith]

That's what I'm saying. I think, I think OKC kind of saved the game a little bit because they didn't win a championship based off of three pointers, right?

[ISO Joe]

Nah.

[Josh Smith]

Right. They shot a lot of mid range.

[ISO Joe]

They shot a lot of.

[DC]

What's it called? What's called like that too. Now the Knicks was, they was. They were going to that.

[Josh Smith]

They were getting to the.

[DC]

They was going off that fat boy, he was coming off that glass. Was attacking.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, Jalen Brunson was too much, bro. He had a hell of a run. I ain't gonna lie.

[Josh Smith]

That what OG did, too, though, Twin.

[DC]

Yeah, but OG OG his body, bro. Oh, sim type. I'm like, he keep that for another three, four years again.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, look, but hold up, though, D.C. think about it. Smooth. Think about this. OG played great against us. Hell, he didn't even play in the Philly series.

[Josh Smith]

That's crazy.

[DC]

Saving him.

[ISO Joe]

He didn't play. I think he got hurt. I think he got hurt.

[Joe]

But he.

[ISO Joe]

I'm saying, for the Knicks, I think everything went right for him, you know, in this postseason. But they had a hell of a run.

[Josh Smith]

They was on fire, man.

[DC]

You know. You know what?

[Josh Smith]

I ain't never seen a team that they hit the playoffs that was that much on fire in my life, though. But, you know.

[DC]

But you know what? But you know what? It showed, too, though? Like, I hope these young players is watching, and they really like looking at game and like, looking at film. It shows, like, what being a dog would achieve. Like, if you think about it, San Antonio really was supposed to win, okay? They lost themselves. Because now you got pressure. Free throws online, you missing important shots. You up by 30, you still lose. Hey, man, you can't do nothing but blame yourself. Default just kept playing. They help hustling. And that's what you're gonna do. You're gonna outbeat everybody if you do that.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, kudos to the Knicks, bro. But I know, boy, they pissed the spurs off. And I'm telling y', all them boys coming back, they gonna come back swinging.

[DC]

You think they come back?

[ISO Joe]

They gonna come back swinging. Dc they gonna. I'm saying because you gotta win about 70.

[Josh Smith]

70 games. 70 plus games this year. I think.

[ISO Joe]

You say what?

[Josh Smith]

I think the spurs Gonna win about 70 plus games this year. I think

[DC]

basketball season probably got all the sports beat right now, man. I'm just saying.

[ISO Joe]

Hey, we, we cooking. We cooking. We cooking now. Yeah, we cooking. I don't know, bro. I don't know. I just.

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