Nightcap Hour 2: NBA INVESTIGATING Gary Trent Jr & Bucks + AJ Dybansta on RIVALRY with Darryn Peterson + Tony Allen on Hasheem Thabeet’s PREGAME Meal + Top 15 NFL WRs in 2026 + George Pickens PLAYING on FRANCHISE TAG + 2026 NFL QB Rankings + Jerry Ric...

Summary

Nightcap Podcast: Hour 2 – July 17, 2026

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)

Featuring Joe Johnson & Uncle Ocho

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap offers an electric, free-wheeling nighttime sports roundtable. Shannon and Ochocinco (“Unc and Ocho”), joined by Joe Johnson and Uncle Ocho, break down a packed slate of NBA and NFL headlines with their classic blend of insight, humor, and storytelling. Major topics include the NBA’s investigation into Gary Trent Jr.’s contract, rising rivalries in the NBA Summer League, Tony Allen’s wild pregame meal stories, deep dives into NFL wide receiver and quarterback rankings, the economics of franchise tags, and colorful reflections on athletic routines, classic cartoons, and pop culture crushes.

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Key Topics & Insights

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1. NBA Investigating Gary Trent Jr.’s Bucks Contract (03:46–10:02)

• Chad breaks down controversy: Bucks signed Gary Trent Jr. to a 4-year, $64M deal after his lowest production year (“8.8 PPG on 39% shooting”), raising “salary cap circumvention” concerns.
• Why the investigation?: The suspicion is a possible “handshake deal” or prearrangement, similar to the infamous Joe Smith-Minnesota incident (referenced with stern warnings about league consequences).
• Roster logjam: Bucks already have a crowded backcourt; motivation for the big contract is puzzling.
• Unc and Ocho keep it candid:
  • “If you’re underpaid, nobody bats an eye. But overpaid? Investigate.” — Chad Ocho (08:50)
  • Parallel drawn to situations like Kawhi Leonard and under-market deals (Wemby, Jalen Brunson).
  • Critique the double standard toward player vs. team “selfishness” (10:00).

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2. AJ Dybansta’s Rivalry with Darryn Peterson – NBA’s Next Generation (11:15–15:02)

• AJ Dybansta on court/locker room rivalry with Darryn Peterson:
  • “Off the court, we’re very cool, but the media and NBA gods kind of build it into a rivalry. It’s kinda like Tracy McGrady and Kobe. I’m a big T-Mac guy, he’s a Kobe guy.” — Chad quoting Dybansta (11:15)
• Ocho’s take: Rivalries make sports great; believes Peterson (the #2 pick) will use “snub” for motivation while Dybansta aims to prove he's the best in his class.
  • “Both have elite talent...with LeBron about to retire, these young Thundercats have not disappointed in Summer League.” — Uncle Ocho (12:14)
• Joe Johnson: Passing of the torch expected between draft classes; mentions need for “new stories” and predicts top rookies will be well-featured.

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3. Summer League, Draft History & Storylines (15:02–17:48)

• Value of stories: Discussion on Messi’s last World Cup, legendary rivalries, and how the NBA historically used territorial drafts.
• Chad’s storytelling: Explains how teams used to hold rights to drafted college players, and how stashing and injury reserve rules evolved due to “cheating the system.”

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4. Legendary NBA Locker Room Meals (Tony Allen on Hasheem Thabeet) (17:51–18:39)

• Tony Allen recalls Hasheem Thabeet’s brutal eating habits:
  • “Hot dogs and hamburgers 35 minutes before the NBA game...I say, bro, you can’t be eating that...He looked at me and said, says who?” — Tony Allen (17:51)
• Roundtable laughs — comparing eating styles, pregame routines (“Had to play on an empty stomach,” Ochocinco, 23:45).

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5. NFL Top 15 Wide Receivers (2026) Rankings (33:21–43:52)

• Breaking down the media-compiled WR ranking list:
  • Top 5: Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, JSN (Jaxon Smith-Njigba), Puka Nacua, Amon-Ra St. Brown.
  • Ocho disputes Malik Nabers in the 11 spot given injury; Tyreek Hill’s inclusion also questioned.
  • “A thousand yard for a receiver...in 16, 17 games, that ain’t nothing.”— Chad
  • Debate: Justin Jefferson’s place remains high due to talent despite drop in stats; Puka’s volume catches and system role discussed.
• Historical context: Receivers in West Coast systems always “put up numbers” (e.g., Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Sterling Sharpe).

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6. Discussion: Franchise Tag Drama & George Pickens’ Future (47:43–51:20)

• Pickens playing on $27.3M franchise tag: No long-term deal; panel wonders if Cowboys will regret it.
  • “If he plays like last year, it’s $45 million next time.”— Chad (48:28)
• Cowboys salary cap: Can’t pay everyone with looming contracts (Dak, CeeDee Lamb, Pickens, etc.).
  • “You win, everybody get paid.” — Ocho
  • “No, everybody can’t get paid.” — Chad

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7. 2026 NFL Quarterback Rankings Revealed (58:02–62:44)

• Top 10 QB rankings: Josh Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, Drake Maye, Jared Goff, Caleb Williams.
• Ocho and Joe Johnson largely agree: Small gripes about ranking order; mention of the challenges for Hurts and the QB “peaks and valleys” for Jordan Love.
• Discussion of snubs: Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love.

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8. Big Three Basketball Check-In (80:00–81:15)

• Chicago Triplets remain undefeated — Dr. J coaching, star performances from Amir Johnson, Montrezl Harrell.
• Panel praises the rotation depth: “Probably the deepest team in the Big Three right now.” — Uncle Ocho (80:30)

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9. Q&A: LeBron’s Next Move, Personal Stories, and More (81:30–end)

• LeBron speculation: Final year, choices between Philly, Golden State, Cleveland (82:15+).
  • “This is either this or next year... but Brian gon’ march to his own beat.” — Chad
• Personal moments & culture:
  • Stories about being a Jordan athlete (86:11–87:01)
  • Childhood cartoon nostalgia (Herculoids) (87:01–88:12)
  • Pop culture crushes (Jane Kennedy, Shaka Khan, Vanessa Williams, Jada Pinkett, Lena Horne) (89:43–92:17)
  • Candid reflections on injury recovery timelines and pregame superstitions.
  • Playful arguments about the infamous Dez Bryant “catch,” locker room jokes, and an impromptu mock golf lesson (75:00+).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Chad on NBA investigations:

  “If you’re underpaid, nobody bats an eye. But overpaid? Investigate.” (08:50)

• On sports rivalries:

  “Sports is always great when you have rivals...with LeBron getting ready to go out, we need to know the game is in great hands.” — Uncle Ocho (12:14)

• On NFL franchise tags:

  “If he plays like last year, it’s $45 million next time.” — Chad on George Pickens (48:28)

• On feeding star wide receivers:

  “That West Coast system, you a receiver...if you got a great quarterback, you gonna put up numbers.” — Chad (38:06)

• On cartoon nostalgia:

  “Now it ain’t no fun watching. Watching cartoons every day. You’d have to Saturday, get up early, get that cereal, watch the cartoons.” — Chad (88:26)

• On pregame diets:

  “Couldn’t play dead in a horror movie. Easy to play dead in a horror movie.” — Ochocinco on Thabeet (23:40) “I can’t compete with something on my stomach, Ocho. I need to feel light on my damn feet.” — Uncle Ocho (25:06)

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Timestamps: Highlighted Segments

| Time | Segment | |----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:46 | NBA investigating Gary Trent Jr./Bucks deal | | 11:15 | AJ Dybansta & Darryn Peterson rivalry | | 17:51 | Tony Allen’s Hasheem Thabeet anecdote | | 33:21 | 2026 NFL Top 15 WRs list breakdown | | 47:43 | George Pickens’ franchise tag debate | | 58:02 | 2026 NFL QB rankings discussion | | 80:00 | Big Three basketball update | | 81:30 | Q&A: LeBron’s future, athlete endorsements, injury questions, pop culture | | 87:01 | Herculoids/cartoon nostalgia | | 89:43 | Celebrity crushes chat | | 94:58+ | Playful finale — ice bucket challenge, arguments about Dez Bryant “catch” |

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Style & Tone

This episode is characteristically unfiltered, lively, and deeply informed by the hosts’ first-person experience as pro athletes. They interweave sharp sports analysis, pop culture references, and vivid storytelling, frequently laughing and riffing with (and at) each other. The camaraderie is evident, and listeners are treated to an insider’s look at both the business and the culture of professional sports.

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Summary Takeaway

Nightcap remains a must-listen for sports fans who want more than stats — delivering insightful, unvarnished takes on major news, player rivalries, the business side of pro sports deals, and the locker room culture behind the headlines. This episode especially shines in its mix of sharp NFL/NBA commentary, real athlete experiences, and plenty of laughs.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

NBA is investigating a four year $64 million deal between Gary Trent Jr. And the Bucks for a possible salary cap circumvention. Trent is set to receive a significant pay raise and multi year contract despite having some of the lowest production of his career. He averaged 8.8 points a game shot 39% during the 2526 season, his lowest average since his rookie year when he played 15 games as a rookie in Portland. The NBA is looking into the contract at the leave collective bargain agreement contained the clause against prior agreements. Joe First Kawhi, now this. What's going on? Even more fishy is paying him when they already had a crowded backcourt. Ryan Rawlings, Tyler Herron, Kevin Porter Jr. And they drafted Braden Buries with the 10th pick. So what's really going on?

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe I ain't gonna lie, it is a little skeptical Uncle Oo, but hell I just seen Kurt Cousin, Hell did. Did they investigate him? Did they, did they investigate Kirk Cousin for all that money he been getting? Damn. Hey, listen, it's, it's very, it's very unfortunate for the young man. I think he's still gonna get his money, but. Yeah, man, I think coming off his worst season since his rookie year, Akin Ocho, I don't know what he had,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

fell out completely out the rotation. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

So what are you investigating though?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's the biggest, it seems to

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

me, because remember when he left the, when he left Toronto and came there, they only had 2.3 million. He took that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So they're saying you had what they're surmising based on this contract. When you fell out of the rotation, you had your worst production since your rookie year, which is 18, 19, and you signed four years. 64 million. 64. $16 million a year, and you had your worst production and you fell out of the rotation.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but when, hold on, when they investigate, exactly who are they investigating? Are they investigating the team or they investigating the player?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The team. Okay, now they investigate the team and if they, if they found some funny business was going on, they go, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna nullify the deal. They're gonna contract the same thing they did with Joe Smith. Joe, remember what they did to Joe Smith? Yeah, they had a handshake deal. Yeah, that Joe Smith took the minimum. He had a handshake deal that he was gonna sign this big contract. Somebody, if I'm not mistaken, got fired in Minnesota, and he went and told David Stern what they had done. Yeah, David Stern said, I got something for y' all ass. I got something for your funky ass. Yeah, I'm gonna take three first round picks the next three years. I'm taking your first round pick, I'm avoid the contract, and I'm gonna put this file on your ass. Hey, it ruined them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it did. It did. It hurt him for, for a few years. Hey, but I got a question. Who, who's the, Who's. They got rid of Doc Rivers or He, he resigned. He retired. Who's coaching over there now?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jamal Mosley.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Jamal Mosley does. So is it, is it a case?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just, I just saw, I just, I just saw him at the airport today, this morning.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, did you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, so I wonder, is it a case to where he, he, he. He likes, he likes the kid, Trent, Like. I don't know. I, I can't. I'm trying to make it make sense. I Mean, hell, if he just coming off his worst season. I don't know, man. I guess.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he fell out of rotation. He had some DMPs.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, so? So Doc probably wasn't messing with him. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't believe they investigated. Just because the man got paid, boy. Now, if it comes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see what it is that they're going to look at. Like. Like. I don't get it.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, maybe watch some of that footage, Joe, Based on what we've been seeing with. With players, throwing stuff, throwing games. Hey, they didn't need to go back and check. Hey, I'm just saying. Aren't you laughing, bro? He might have been doing that on purpose, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't think that. I think he did struggle because you remember, Joe, him last. He had some years in Toronto. He was letting that thing fly. Yeah. He was even in Portland because. And I think. Go ahead, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, in Portland and Toronto, they had pretty good teams, bro. He was surrounded by cats who were really, really good. Not saying the book, cj.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He had dame.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying the Bucks don't have that, but Giannis ain't played the bulk of the season last year, bro. He missed a lot of damn games. You know what I mean? So they basically was just out there, air man for they damn self. And he's not a guy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, Joe. Oh, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Taylor Jenkins. Did somebody say Taylor Jenkins? Is Taylor Jenkins the coach, Ash.

[Uncle Ocho]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And let me look, because I know Jamal Mosley got a job somewhere, too. Taylor Jenkins used to be the head coach at Memphis. Is he not a head coach at. At Milwaukee, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I know Jamal Mosley got a job. Where did you. Where did Jamal Mosley go? Taylor Jenkins, where did Jamal Mosley go? Cause he was at Orlando, Joe. Pelicans. Pelicans. Pelicans, yeah. Jamal went to the Pelican. Okay, okay. Sorry about that. But, yeah, Frank Skaminsky said so. If you're underpaid, no one bass an eye. But if you get overpaid, investigate. Investigate the guys that take minimum or lesser deals when their first market value is way higher as well then see, I agree. Hey. He's like, hold on. Y' all ain't gonna investigate. Y' all ain't gonna investigate Wimby, right? Wendy took 50 million less. Y' all didn't investigate Jalen Brunson. He took 113 million less.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, he gonna know something happened. No, they. Hey, you take. Hey, you taking that less amount of money. Hey, it's got to be all right. I ain't gonna speculate.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just saying it's got to be a promissory note somewhere.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. Come on, man. That's all I'm saying. Come on, now,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

look, get your money. Get your money.

[Uncle Ocho]

I. I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, like I said, I. I don't begrudge anybody, but I just hate that sometimes the way it's portrayed, if I don't take less money, Joe Ocho, I don't care about winning.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm being selfish. Well, y' all don't say that about the team by being selfish when they don't pay and they let a guy walk because they didn't want to pay him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I want my bread now. I'm selfish, man. You ought to help the team. That ain't my team. That's not my team. Hey, would I leave if something were to happen to this family? You think they gonna cut me and Joe? They gonna cut. Say, you know what he. You know, Oo. Oo took a $50 million pay cut. You know what? We sold this team for $12 billion. Let's go and get Oo his money back, man. Gonna do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oo absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They going.

[Uncle Ocho]

They gonna tell you. Thank you, though. Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you. OO was so great. He was. Oh, he's such a great guy. Oh, he's such a character. He was such a character. Oh, my God, he's so funny. He was hilarious. Ah, give me my money. Give me that 50 million that I left on the table for y' all so y' all can get some other players.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I want. I ain't laughing about that now. I need that money. AJ debonzo on potential rival with Darren Peterson off the court. We're very cool, but the me but the media and the NBA gods kind of build it into a rivalry. I've got somebody to say it's kind of like Tracy McGrady and Kobe. Reimagine. I'm a big Tracy McGrady guy. He's a big Kobe guy, so I guess they're going to gas that up. Ocho Joe, is this the next big robbery?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I like it, fellas. You know, I think sports is always great when you have rivals, you know what I mean? And with these two dudes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Coming in the same draft, class one and two both have elite talent, and they put it on display for us in this summer league and they showed us the potentially that they can be superstars in the NBA. I'm looking forward to it, man. I enjoy the rival because Peterson takes me as a guy he's probably gonna use this his whole career for not going number one. Being the set.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Being number two, that's probably gonna push him throughout his whole career. Uncle Ocho, in the same way, AJ DeBonsa, I think he wants to show that he's the best player in the game, bro. The best young, one of the best young guns, especially the best young cat in his draft. So I think it's a great rivalry. Both of them have huge amount of talent. I enjoy watching both of them play, bro. I look forward to the competition level being at an all time high. If we got LeBron getting ready to go out the game in the next year or two, man, we need to know that the game is in great hands, bro. And with this draft class, Uncle Ocho, like I've been telling y', all, man, it's some young Thundercats, some young superstars coming into the NBA. And these guys have not disappointed in some league.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, they have, they haven't disappointed in summer league.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you look at it, Joe, I

[Joe Johnson]

was saying they haven't disappointed in summer league. As far as those, you know, the passing of the torch, I think it's gonna be some of those other, some of those other young guns, you know, your shades, your, your lamelo ball, Anthony Andrews, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown. It's going to be them that's going to take over from there. Those young bulls are going to be something to watch. And the one thing that makes the NBA great is you need stories. You need stories. So the story of them becoming that, that, that next, that next dynamic duo that, that are battling and become, it would be dope for the game. It is, it is summer league. It is summer league too, Joe. Do you still think they will be able to perform at a high level once everybody's back in that, that, that organized, structured environment with the best players?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I, I think, I think a lot. Especially like the top seven, eight guys. Oo top 10 guys, you know, they gonna be pretty much featured in any offense or any team that they play for, you know what I mean? Because you can't. You ain't drafting guys like AJ at 1 and just because he playing with Trey and Anthony Davis that you only. You ain't gonna have a package in there that's gonna feature him, you know what I mean? Like, they gonna get their opportunities. They gonna get their chances. Some I like because they going into, you know, organizations or teams with, with, with veteran guys versus when you look at a guy like Caleb, I like the pow pickup that they got from Norman Powell from Miami, the Bulls got. But Caleb Wilson, that's in, that's in Chicago, bro. His upside, I think he's gonna have the best opportunity because he's gonna really. I think he's gonna play the right way. Not only is he dynamic and, and have a lot of talent, but I think he's more than just a power forward. He's more of a tweener, bro. Like a. He can play the five, he could play the three. Hell, he could probably even play the two. I see him bring the ball up playing a one running, picking rolls. I just think he's so versatile that he's gonna get an opportunity. Hell, he might be rookie of the year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, look, stories is. That's what makes sports go round. I need to. What's the story behind it? Yeah, I mean, we got the World cup coming. What, what's the story? It's messy. Probably in his last international stage, an opportunity for the World cup to go back to back. Only a handful. Only two. What two guys. I mean, Brazil, I think Italy went back to back 34, 38. And then Brazil went back to back 5862. So here it is, Lionel Messi and his final World cup appearance. Ocho Joe, back to back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, what better story is there than that? Look at the stories of how down two. Oh, to Egypt, down to England, down. Down to this team.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Down to Cape Verde, 1 0.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And somehow Lionel Messi.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, and you got, look in 79, when you got. When you got. When you got Bird and Magic. But what people don't realize, Bird was not really drafted in. See, back then, Joe, I could draft a player and if he went back to college, I still owned his rights.

[Uncle Ocho]

And that's what happened.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what the Celtics did to Larry. Yes, yes. They drafted it the year before he went back to school, but they still owned his rights. See, back then, back in the beginning, the draft was about, was all about territories. You go after guys like close proximity to where you actually played because it wasn't a, it wasn't a big thing like it is now. So you wanted somebody familiar with that area. So that's why you got Oscar Robinson getting drafted to the Royals.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because what, he went to Cincinnati. It's a no brainer.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you get guys that's how we're going to do it. But, yeah, that's what you could do. You could draft a guy and if he went back to school, I still owned his rights.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They don't let you do that. They don't let you do that. They'll let you do that no more because you know how to do. Because it used to be a injury reserve, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they started to let you do that. Ocho, when I got into the league, you could injury reserve and then you could come off. But, you know, some of those teams, they were stashing players. So then they say, you know what? We see what y' all doing. You put him on injury reserve, he gonna stay his ass for the whole year. You see recently, now, you go on injury reserve, you can come back off. Yeah, but you know something? They go. They go get the system, Joe. They just got to. They gotta find a way to cheat, man. I'm telling you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey. And they say if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. Yes. That's how they used to do. They stack players. Tony Allen says, hashim, the Beat used to eat hot dogs and hamburgers 35 minutes before the NBA game. Man, take a listen to what he had to say. He was just a bad. He was a bad young fella for me. Listen to me. Well, when I got to Memphis, this hard ass man, he ain't listening to shit. I say, bro, big fella, you can't be eating hot dogs and hamburgers at 35 on the clock. He looked at me and said, says who? I say, all right, I'm got something for your. I was on his head after that. Oh, the Beat, was it listening?

[Uncle Ocho]

He wasn't hand none of that shit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He started with skinny jeans and shades.

[Uncle Ocho]

I say it's over with.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said it. Hey, that expl. Yeah, that explains.

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, the Locho, the number two pick in the draft probably lasted long as what, a snowball? Snowball in the microwave at 7 foot 3, 7 foot 4.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He was terrible. He was. I mean, he, he was just all. He was awful. Ain't no way to sugarcoat it was that bad.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. 7172oo and you get kicked out the lead, homeboy. Boy, something wrong with you. Yeah, hell, all you got to do is be to run up and down the court. You get paid.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Couldn't play dead in a horror movie. Hey, it was easy to play dead in the horror movie.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that was one thing about me, man. I could not play with food on my stomach, bro. I had to play on an empty stomach, bro. So I used to see cats. Look. Oh, Uncle Ocho, I see cats coming to the locker room. I'm like, ta, hell, it's 30, 40 on the clock. How you eating? Chicken nuggets, Chicken fingers And fries, hamburgers. I mean, how you feeling? You finna go out here and play? I was never one of them guys.

[Joe Johnson]

I need some on my stomach, Joe,

[Uncle Ocho]

you know you do before you go play.

[Joe Johnson]

Before I go play, Joe and I got the same thing all the time. Either I went to First Watch on Walnut street in Cincinnati, which was. It was in walking distance of the hotel we had to stay in because sometimes early in my career, they made it stay in the hotel. Either I go there, I go to the McDonald's in Covington. Hey, Joe. I get the hotcakes with sausage and they give me a large OJ and I'm good. That's my pregame meal. Or when I go to First Watch, I get. Not mama's breakfast. That's. I get the trifecta, you know, give a French toast, give me two eggs scrambled and a fruit cup and cranberry juice, and I'm good to go. It's not heavy, though, Joe. It's not heavy, but it's just enough to give me some so I have some energy, you know, some. Some in my system so I'm able to go out there and perform.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't eat three hours before the game. Three hours before the game. I'm cutting it off. I ain't eating nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm drinking very little water.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want nothing on my stomach.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's me, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man. I can't compete with something on my stomach, Ocho. Like I, you know, I mean, I need to feel light. I need to feel light on my damn feet. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, the fuel from. You need the fuel. You need something in your stomach to be able to fuel you to go, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you remember. Hey, hey, hey, you remember Booby Johnson and Friday Night Lights?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Booby Miles.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. This your God given baby. Hey, hey. It's God given.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You want to win? Put booby. Yeah, yeah. I couldn't. I couldn't, I couldn't. I couldn't eat like that either. You know, I'm simple. I got French toast, had bananas cut up on it. I had egg whites and oatmeal, water, orange juice.

[Uncle Ocho]

But after the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But even after the game, Joe, I'm not a big eater. After the game, I'm so. I'm so amped up. I mean, I'm up here. It takes. It takes me a while to come. It takes me a while to come down. It's the same way. I can't go to sleep after, like after the show tonight. It's gonna take me probably about an hour, hour and a half. Hey, wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm glad you said that. Now, now, listen, we can go ahead. Since y', all, you know, we all in town, we can go ahead and. You know what I'm talking. His Starless after this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I gotta, I gotta. I got a busy day. I got a busy day, too.

[Joe Johnson]

We can hit Take the train. We take the train and, you know, we'll be back in the house about.

[Uncle Ocho]

Take the train where?

[Joe Johnson]

The Starless in Brooklyn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why we gotta take the train?

[Joe Johnson]

So we can get the full effect of being in New York, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Wild. See, that's your problem.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I hear all the Audi cars honking. It took me an hour and 15 minutes to get to the hotel.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, so y' all don't want to go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I got, I, I got, I got a few ones I could throw, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. What area you in, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

I can't tell y' all that. Oh, just. See, you be asking so many police questions, I don't be knowing who you. I can't, I can't tell y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it shows out like he got a wire on.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just trying to communicate, that's all.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm, I'm in the vicinity. Just know that. So if you come out your, if you come out your hotel trying to take your little smoke break and I hit you inside the damn head. Yeah. Just know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Hey, Joe, I didn't know you were coming with that kind of energy all

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

the way in New York, but that's how. Hey, yeah. What you thought you said it was on site.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hell, I ain't gonna act like it. You know what I'm saying? It's all friendly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You forgot about it. Her joke.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, yeah, I'm just letting you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, I got something, I got something for you. Don't worry about it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, we, no, we could. I, I, I mean, for me, I ain't never had no teammates to eat like that. Not that late to the game because we had to be to the game two hours before the game. So I gave, we played it, we played at noon, so we always played the late game. So we playing at 205. So we gotta be, we got, we gotta be there by 12. I'm in my, I'm in my locker at 9, 45, 10.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, that's. Hey, you know what? That same with basketball. If it's a 7 o' clock game. Hey, you gotta be there at least by 5 o'. Clock. You can't be there. No late in 5 o'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Clock. Yeah, I don't, I, I don't like, I don't like to be rushed. And I get, I get up early in the morning because I already working out with Mike. I said, mike, you look. He's like, hey, 84, just go ahead. Hey, just, just be quiet when you, you know, leave. So I'm leaving. I'm getting up at five. I normally get up at five, go home, go right back to bed.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I've got to take that nap now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm going, I'm going right back. I'm going right back to bed. And it's like, well, you got to eat breakfast. I like, no, I don't, no, I don't want you. But I'm going. I'm gonna go to La Peep. There's a restaurant and I don't know if it's still open, but I think it is. There's a restaurant in Denver. It was called the Peep. I get two, I get two wheat germ pancakes. They about this big.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Two wheat German pancakes, scrambled eggs.

[Joe Johnson]

You said wheat pancakes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wheat germ. Wheat germ, yes. Bananas on top, no syrup. I never put syrup on it. Never put butter.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just, just, just eat them dry like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah. Boy, we know you grew up in the woods, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, there's a machine. Joe, there's a machine. Joe, there's a machine, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

You don't put no honey, no syrup. You don't put nothing on them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't then. I didn't know.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you said you didn't then. So you do now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, if I get pancakes, that's, that's really why. I mean, I, I don't, I leak waffles, but mainly, mainly I like pancakes. I like pancakes more than I like French toast.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. And then like a good pancake.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I remember when I first got me some money and I was on my own. The syrup. I always wanted to get that. My grandma see, we got locked. My grandma always bought that log cabin.

[Uncle Ocho]

You want that Ms.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Butter work? Then I wanted that Ms. Butterworth. What you know about that?

[Joe Johnson]

What you know about that Ms.

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Butter work?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy, what? Man, I wanted that Ms. Butterworth so bad, boy. Man, 40 was not getting no Ms. Butterworth. Boy, get that log cabbage. Hey, hey, what that Ms. Butterworth was that Ms. Butterworth on some pancakes?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oo, them things be jumping in they. Man B. I already know it, boy. Hey, what you get? Hey, hey, hey. You get your mama, your Grandma who really know how to make them good pancakes with them crispy edges. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

You slap that Ms. Butter. Work on that.

[Joe Johnson]

See, y' all tripping. My mom, my grandma, they gotta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got. Man, we gotta come back New York because they got a pancake. They got a place that make pancakes right here. The wait is like two hours.

[Joe Johnson]

The wait ain't two hours for us. Now, if you want to go there, let me know. I can make a call now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I want to go, bro. I know what I'm talking about. I seen it on. I think I seen on IG or something. Yeah, boy, look good, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They look good. They look real good. I'm about to sneak my own Ms. Butterworth up in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. What? Y' all want to go tomorrow?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I didn't. I tell you, I got a busy day tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all don't want to go get no breakfast before your day start, man,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

look it, I'm not getting up that early.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, we get off the show. What time we get off tonight? By 12. 12:30. Yeah, I'm gonna wake up at 5. Joe, you want to go get breakfast? Joe, after we fight?

[Uncle Ocho]

I got. Hey, hey, I ain't gonna lie. I'm going. I'm going to yoga at seven o'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Clock.

[Joe Johnson]

We at Joe will.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's a. It's probably about 15 minutes from here, but, you know, we in New York, so I'm. I'm going to give me a little high yoga in. In the morning, man, before we get rolling. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's so nice. We sure appreciate you. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, I appreciate y' all for helping by yourself. Yeah, I'm Dolo, man, he got away solo, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, boy, congratulations. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

He signed up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Shelly. Shelly gave Rochelle that permission slip. She signed it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, why you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Why y' all acting like that? Like we good? Look, look, that's over with. That's over and done with. We in New York.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Let's. Let's. Let's worry about our plans going forward. Y' all talking about old stuff, man. I want to hear all that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, we got. We got. We got a little subplay at Houston with Poor Mind Girls.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, when? August.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, I'm gonna reach out there. They in London right now. They're getting ready to do a show in London. We might have to take our. We'll have to take our show.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, we big over there, boy. You hear me?

[Uncle Ocho]

I've been waiting for y' all to

[Joe Johnson]

say something they love over there now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, come on, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Somebody go talking about they ain't got no pass.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen, listen, listen. First off, that's all I got is my passport. I keep it with me. They keep it on me. Yeah, damn. I keep it on me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I gotta stay away from you a man and keep his passport on him, he'd be liable to do something crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to watch him.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Execs, coaches, scouts ranked the NFL wide top wide receivers for 20, 26. They got Jamar Chase at 1, Justin Jefferson at 2, JSN at 3, Puka at 4, Almond Ross St. Brown at 5, CD Lamb is 6, Pickens at 7, Nico Collins, 8, AJ Brown, 9. Devonte Adams rounds out the top 10. I don't know how they got Malik neighbors in there. 11. Considering that he coming up ACL and he had surgery because the scar tissue built up.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know how he got there. In front of Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill. There's a chance he might not even play this year. Ojo. I don't know how he got the high heels, but I would have Jameson Williams absolutely up higher than what he is. I put him in front of Malik Neighbors and. And Tyreek based on just injury history alone.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn. Y' all think DK that far down at 19?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not putting him, man. Hey, that kid Alex Pierce, now, he don't get no shine on you, but we know. Hey, he for real, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he for real.

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[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he gonna get his chance this year, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, absolutely, Chase, I'm not going to argue with you, but I can't put Jelly. Not after what Pook. I'm not putting him in front of Puka.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me tell you something. Jedi stand right there, too. I understand what Pooka's doing. I understand how great Pooka is. But I also understand what Justin Jefferson has done since he's in the league. Now. The fact that he didn't have. The fact that he didn't have a quarterback is the only reason.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I gotta fact that I gotta factor that in.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not factoring it in. I'm not doing that because I know exactly what Justin Jefferson could do. I know exactly what he could do. I'm not playing that game and chastising and penalizing Jeddahs because he doesn't have a quarterback based on what he's done since he entered the league. I'm not doing that. And Puka got impressed. Nah, man. Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I'm saying. But you make it seem like Puka ain't put up numbers since he been in the league.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, we talk about Justin Jefferson, who is great. Yes, I like Pooka. He's great. We talk about jettison, man. Come on, man. Yes, come on, ass. Come on. Don't, don't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You saw Pooka, you saw Puka numbers. You said you. But don't. Don't pretend like Pooka.

[Joe Johnson]

But come on, now we talk about jealous now. Come on. Don't do that, man. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but I got, I got. I gotta take. I gotta take in the totality of work.

[Joe Johnson]

If you take a totality body at work, then Jennings would be number two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho. But I'm saying last year happened. Puka has never had a year like that. And I know his quarterback situation. But guess what? Like you tell me all the time, when them numbers dip, they don't want to hear nothing about that quarterback studio check.

[Joe Johnson]

I know they don't want to hear, but the reason why the numbers dipped and he still was over a thousand. With the quarterback situation they had with the miracle man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, look here. A thousand yard for a receiver. Playing 16, 17 games on your day, you know, that ain't nothing. That's like a running back. That's like a running back getting a thousand yards in 17 games. But I ain't but 58 yards a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I understand, I understand that. But I understand the greatness that is Justin Jefferson. And even though he didn't have a quarterback, it was, it was, it was, it was. Oh, it was messy. It was messy for me. Still, it was awful.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I feel bad.

[Joe Johnson]

I did too, when he was still able to get. Get that thousand. I understand how great Puka is. I think Pooh was one of those receivers. Honestly, if he had that same type of system that he has in la, he can go play on any other team and still produce the same way. As long as they have an adequate quarterback. It makes it even better that he got stabbered. So even to go crazy regardless.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the thing is, is that what if you look at the guys that's been in that system, they catch a lot of balls, but they could, but they. The longevity is. Because you get so many targets and you get hit so much. Yeah, you remember Cooper Cup? Yeah, Cooper cup had that history season and then the injuries because you take so much punishment, man, think about how many balls they throw to Puka. He get A lot.

[Joe Johnson]

I wonder how many targets he had last year. Can Ash look that up? I'm curious.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Ash looked it up and I think he missed two games. Ocho and he led the league. And receiving it. Missed two games.

[Uncle Ocho]

He got a gunslinger back that old home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Staffing flat.

[Joe Johnson]

I throw, man, could you imagine? Put Stafford. Put Stafford in Minnesota. Why would you think Justin numbers look like? Matter of fact, how about this? You know, do me a favor.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Take.

[Joe Johnson]

Put jettas and that LA offense with Sean McVeigh. What you think Jetta numbers would look like?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, any. Any receiver you look at. What. What the one thing out of Mike Shanahan's system. The receivers. If you're that boy, absolutely. You gonna put up numbers. If. If you just go back and look at the west coast. You go start with Jerry. You start. Go with Sterling Sharp and Terrell Lawrence. And you look at all those guys that played in that system. Oh, they gonna put up numbers.

[Uncle Ocho]

They eat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they go. They gonna get you about. Oh, they gonna feed you, Joe. They're gonna move you. They gonna feed you. They gonna move you around. Catch them if you can't. Because he gonna be on the right, he gonna be on the left. They're gonna put him in the backfield, they're gonna put him in the slot. It's the same. Look at JSN click who we are. You. You see, they like. Remember, they lied. JSN up in the backfield, threw him a touchdown at the backfield. If you in that west coast system and you a receiver for all you need. You don't need if you got a great quarterback. Devonte Adams with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ugly. Ugly. That back shoulder.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. So that man got 113 touchdowns in 10 years.

[Joe Johnson]

Different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

113.

[Joe Johnson]

Different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It makes you realize just how many. Jerry got 197 receiving touchdowns.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In a league that they didn't throw the ball like they throw it down. Hey, so okay, so you leaving. So you leaving everything as is. You got Chase 1 Jetta, 2 JSN of 3, Puka 4 Armored Ross. So you leaving everything as is?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't even see. Wait, where's Devonte Smith?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They ain't got Smitty up there. Oh, 20 June caught 129 balls. Ocho on 166 targets and he missed two games.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy. That's crazy. Listen, depending who you ask, so he's

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

getting almost basically 17 games. He's getting. He's getting a little less nine targets a game.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what? I don't like Nico Collins being so low. I don't think people understand how good Nico Collins is. But if I want to take him up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But if you put. If you put him up, you got to take him.

[Joe Johnson]

That's exactly what I get ready to say.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. What's the average. What's the average target to game or receiver? Get your top receiver.

[Joe Johnson]

They depending on who you playing.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, for Chase. For chase. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, flag.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the average, when you equate everything out, somewhere between seven and eight.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, well, my Cowboys having two guys in that top 10, I'm expecting big things from. From this year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, the big disappointment.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why are you expecting a disappointment? What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause. Cause you expected a lot.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm expecting what. What I think they should do. We should be a pretty damn good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You've been. You've been thinking. You've been expecting that for 30 years. Do you remember them championships, Joe? You probably like a teen.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. He's talking about collectively, as a team. Now, I'm with you. When you write, when you talk about George Pickens and CD Lamb individually. Oh, they f. To go crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie. Ain't no way. Ain't no way in hell. Smitty is the 22nd best receiver. I don't care what y' all say. Malik Neighbors has Joe Ocho. He had surgery on a knee. He tore his acl, but it said he had scar tissue build up. Tyreek might not even play this year. I. I can't base it on. I cannot base it on what they were two years ago. Malik Neighbors was fantastic, but he got off to a horrible start last year, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And we saw Tyreek. We know what Reek was when he was in Kansas City, and we saw what he was those first two years in Miami. But this is a. This is a serious injury for a guy that's in his 30s.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you gonna put him. Y' all gonna put him over Smitty?

[Joe Johnson]

I wonder who they. Hey, who made that list? Oh, I guess somebody. Somebody is random.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What y' all think Mike Evans gonna do in that system?

[Joe Johnson]

What Shanahan system, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

What's the difference in Shanahan and McVeigh, huh? What's the difference?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because you do realize Mac Bay was up under Shanahan in Africa.

[Joe Johnson]

Mike's gonna have one of his better seasons. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Autumn, guys. Autumn, guys. McDaniels that's the offensive coordinator at the Chargers. He was on the mic. He was on the cow. When Kyle was in. It was in Washington. All it was on the staff.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he said, hey, Mike Evans, stay healthy. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, he gonna. Yes, cut up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he gonna cut up even to get that ball. They put him. They put him all over the place to get that ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

J Mo man, jbo, big play potential, man. He just. He a threat every time to get

[Joe Johnson]

anywhere on the field. Yeah, him and him. Rod nice, too. But he brought to be. Be as small as he is. He's so shifty. He's so crappy. And he can line up on the outside too, now, if need be.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, but you do it. Oh, Joe, you. Ocho, you remember. You remember Jameson Williams with all. With all those guys at Ohio State? He left Ohio State and went to Bamboo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All those guys. And Garrett and the guy that's in New Orleans. All those guys, they were in the same receiver room.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, Ohio State put them out, boy. Wide receiver, Ohio State and lsu.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they've been on the run for a minute too, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but if you go receivers as far as just like receivers, ain't nobody touching Ohio State. Cause you got to go all the way back to Chris. And you remember Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, David Boston.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Don't forget Alabama. Alabama is in the conversation.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, Alabama. Alabama had a nice little run. Alabama started with Julio. And then you had Ridley. And then you had a coupe. You had Devonte Ruggs, Judy Waddle. Who else they had. They had another receiver, too. Who else they had? They had. They had a nice little run. But I mean, you go. I mean, you look at. And the one thing, there only been a handful of receivers that couldn't run. Joey Galloway. People don't realize how fast Joey Galloway was. Joey Galloway was 4:2, man. That pigeon told Joker Joe, man, the first time I saw him, I ain't nowhere to say hello or throw bird seed at it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joey was fast. He was so fast. And he hold the ball like a loaf of bread. Like this. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Ocho, I don't know if you remember, but if you look at his sleeves, he had a big bag of sleeves on.

[Joe Johnson]

The jersey quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, everybody. Everybody else got their sleeve cut because they don't want to be grabbed. He already know you weren't gonna press him. Cause you press him and you miss him.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gone

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

over. And David Boston, big physical. He just. I don't know what happened. I don't know what Happened to Boston, man, he just.

[Joe Johnson]

I remember how big David Boston was when he was in San Diego. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He left Arizona, went to San Diego.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. I'm talking about Joe. He looked like a bodybuilder boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. Huge,

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's. It's not the Cowboys year, Ash. Get that out your head.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ash. Hold on, hold on. Ash. A Cowboy fan too, is she? Ash, What's. I knew, girl.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I knew you, girl.

[Uncle Ocho]

I knew you was all right with me, girl. Ah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, she loved the Cowboy. Hey, Cowboys in TCU in San Antonio.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cowboys first. Now TCU first did the Cowboys, then San Antonio.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, she from Texas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, oh, yeah. We gonna do some damage.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Had me get tickets to. Remember when the TCU played Georgia in the national championship game?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Had me get tickets.

[Joe Johnson]

What do you remember what the score was?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got tickets. You on the 50 yard like her and her brother. So we having a good time? Let's go. 48, nothing at the house. What time you have? Hey, I say, I know you're not having a good time. You know how I know? But how you know I said? Cause you calling me. I'm home. What the hell you calling me for? You having a good time? You calling me 65, seven. And they stay for the whole game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Leaving, man, you let my team fall down. 48, nothing. What I'm staying for?

[Joe Johnson]

She ain't leave early.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they stayed the whole game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And she bought paraphernalia.

[Uncle Ocho]

Remember all that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

She got phone, fingers, towers. I don't want nobody to know I went to this game. I promise you. George Pickens will officially play the 2026 season on his $27.3 million franchise tag after Wednesday, 4pm deadline pass. Picking says like the tag and all that, it's just football first. So definitely play football first. Kind of like I did last year. Then worry about the contract. Well, let my agent worry about it. Really. Pickens is the only player to be franchise tagged this year and not receive a long term deal before the deadline. Daniel Jones, two years, 88 million. Breeze hall, three years, 43 and a half million. Kyle Pitts, three years, 54 million. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are the Cowboys going to regret not starting signing Pick to a long term deal when they could have got him? Because if he plays like he played last year, it's a $45 million. It's 45 million.

[Joe Johnson]

They're probably not going to be able to, you know, to give it to him. Joe, obviously if you saw Pickens last year, you Understand what you do. You're in a better situation with a better quarterback and a better offense in general. So he's going to pick up where he left off last year. He's going to have a great season, and the Cowboys are going to regret it now. They're going to do everything they can this year in hoping that having George Pickens, you know, on that team, they get as far as they can. They're hoping they get as far as they can, Uncle Joe. And I'm. Hey, Joe. Honestly, I'm hoping they do. I know Pickens is going to ball out because of the situation that he's in. You have a very, very, very good quarterback. When opportunities come your way, all you got to do is do what you did last year, make play.

[Uncle Ocho]

I sure hope you're right.

[Joe Johnson]

There's two things you can count on that when it comes to them people with the star in the helmet. You can count on CD Going to hell to slap off, and you count on George Pickens being NFL. NFL. Young boy. He gonna show up now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, I hope he do his thing, man. I. I think. I think he will get paid, Uncle Ocho. Maybe not this season, I'm saying, but after, it won't be in Dallas. Joe, how you figure that? Oh, you don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't know what?

[Uncle Ocho]

How you know what's gonna happen?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just. Joe, I just don't see how they pay him, you know, Dak, they gonna have to do something with dad. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dak about to get over 300 million. He gonna be close. He gonna get 400 million. He gonna want 65, 70 million dollars a year. What you gonna do with Quinny Williams? What you gonna do with CD Listen,

[Uncle Ocho]

we gonna have to cross them bridges when we get to him, but we take care of business this season. You win, everybody get paid.

[Joe Johnson]

No, everybody can't get paid.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, Dak. Prescott gonna want $150 million at signing. He's gonna want. He's gonna want 275, $300 million guaranteed.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe, Jerry got it. He got it here.

[Joe Johnson]

It's a salary, Joe. You can't pay all them. Can't pay all.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, listen, Unc. Ocho, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's a good thing to have Joe Dag making. What's that making? Dak making like 55 now. 60 now. What you think he gonna want next year?

[Joe Johnson]

Highest paid quarterback, too, huh? Oh, well, no, homeboy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Homeboy.

[Joe Johnson]

That's right. That's right.

[Uncle Ocho]

We got some work to do, fellas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I wish but the best

[Uncle Ocho]

I know, don't worry, because y' all gonna hear from us. Y' all gonna hear about us. Y' all gonna hear from us all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, we won't. I mean, yeah, y' all start out fast, but you know, a horse that. A horse that poop fast, don't pull

[Joe Johnson]

on,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

he'll pull on. So I already know how y' all gonna get out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna be hyped. First days, you gonna come out here, hype. Hey, what I tell you? How about them Cowboys? And just slowly as the season progressed. Come on, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That ain't gonna be us, baby. We locked in. We locked.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we're gonna have the NFC sold up over there.

[Joe Johnson]

So what about Philly?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man, they just lost A.J. brown. I know. They got the young boy just come in. What's his name? Melika. What's his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, we a. We ain't worried about the Giants. We ain't worried about their ass.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

Ne.

[Uncle Ocho]

They banged up here. Scatter. Boo. Neighbors all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, what y' all think I'm saying. That man had ankle surgery. Neighbors probably ain't even coming back this year. That what y' all know.

[Joe Johnson]

What about Odell?

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't got no belief in Odell coming back.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know. I hope Odell do his thing. I like Odell, but I'm saying, damn, you expect Odell to carry the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The.

[Uncle Ocho]

The. The damn giant wide receiver to carry

[Joe Johnson]

him boy to my neighbors come back. That's what they brought him in there for.

[Zepbound Medication Announcer]

Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oo. Come on, Ocho. We know that ain't. We know that ain't happening. I think Odell gonna have some great. Some great moments. He gonna have some great games. But to think he gonna carry them for 17 games. Y', all.

[Joe Johnson]

Basically, what you telling me is the Dallas Cowboys will run the NFC East.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ta da. Damn. I've been. I've been trying to tell you that. I don't know why you act like it's so hard for you to understand. Damn. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it. I can tell you. I know who gonna run the NFC East. I can. I can. I can. I bet my money on it. Oh, CD Lamb and George Pickens, I bet. And I bet that now, the team itself, I don't know, but that go. How you gonna bet, CD Hypothetically, you know, if. If there's a way to bet, I'm betting on them to do their thing that gonna get them boys the ball. They gonna do their Thing, not as a team. I don't know what y' all gonna do.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna take your word for it, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know, Joe. I don't know. Cowboys. The Cowboys. They. The Cowboys normally like, cowboy. That's one thing we can count on. Moo. We count on the Cowboys. Cowboys.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, one thing about it, they can move the needle. They. They can move the needle. It just don't. It don't. It don't move when it's supposed to, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. You know, we're gonna make it happen now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you gonna make happen?

[Uncle Ocho]

We finna get this championship. That what we gonna get if the Knicks. Hell on. If the Knicks just won a Damn championship in 35 years. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

53.

[Uncle Ocho]

53. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's our time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see what happened? Oh, you see what happened? Because the Knicks won a championship in 53 years. He said, well, it's 30 for us, so it's time for us to win. What?

[Joe Johnson]

I like it. I like it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. It's time, bro. It's time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. Oh. The super bowl is so far because next year it's in Atlanta, Joe. So you might want to wait till they come to Atlanta.

[Uncle Ocho]

The super bowl in Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The next year, the year after this year is going to be in SoFi, okay? In 20. In 2027, it's in SoFi. In 2028, it's in Mercedes Benz.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

When it's coming back to Florida, man. Dog,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think it. No, Joe Ocho, I think it goes. I think it might go back to Vegas. Cause, you know, they love. They love it in Vegas, especially now. And they love effing New Orleans. I don't know what it is about New Orleans, but nobody's had more super bowl than New Orleans.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nobody has had probably more All Star games than New Orleans here. NBA also gained. Hell, I know. I played in about three or four of them in New Orleans.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

How many times we gonna play in New Orleans?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

New Orleans. New Orleans get the Super Bowls, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why is that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look. Hey, it's a dome. Hey, they like to party. People like to go dress, have a good time. But see, that's why, you know, you put it in a warm. You put it in the warm weather. People like to get outside. All these cold weather, man. Don't know they had the super bowl in Minnesota, man. It's damn, 10 degrees. What the hell you gonna do in Minnesota? Ain't nobody trying to walk around no damn Mall of America. And that's no disrespect. Minnesota, Minnesota. One of the best kept secrets now. Quietest kept. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But anyway, I was saying. Look at Joe, look at this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, no, I know. I'm saying hello, I'm picking up what you put down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Prince back in the 90s they had glam slam.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, off the meter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he be up in there too. And I think they had another club that Prince on their first. I think it was first half chat. Am I correct? I know glam slam

[Uncle Ocho]

like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'll tell y' all some story off there. Oh shit with hell. What's up on the time? Long long time ago, you know, dollar bill said long time ago every game started in Africa. Long, long time ago. Bucket.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

February 14th. Guess what? It's on Valentine's Day this year it's in Sofi. In February of 28, it's in Mercedes Benz. February 29, it's an allegiance. In 2030, it's in Nashville, Tennessee.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know they just built a new stadium. Buffalo. Don't y' all put no damn bid in Buffalo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Buffalo just built a new stadium. Yeah, man, look, that should come. Hey, hey, that should come with it here you, you build a new stadium, that means you should be getting the, the, the. The super bowl or the, or the All Star game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely. They try to. Because what happened, you gotta, you have to be to get all the kinks and bugs out of it. So you have to be in the stadium at least a year before they'll give you a Super Bowl. Okay, but come on, man. I mean look at SoFi, L.A. atlanta. Y' all know how we get down allegiant Vegas. There's so much for you to do. You can sit your ass out by the pool. You could go gambling. They got eateries. Vegas got it all. Vegas. Vegas going to be in a five year rotation. Vegas going to get one every five years for sure. Every five years for sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For the first time in three years, NFL executive and scouts have crowded new QB1 in the ESPN annual rankings. Josh Allen 1. My homeboy 2. Stafford 3. Burrow 4. L. Jack 5. Dak Prescott 6. Justin Herbert 7. Drake May 8, Jared Goff 9. Caleb Williams Cracks the top 10. People asking man where Jaylen hurts. Jaylen hurts. If I'm not mistaken, he was ranked the 17th best quarterback coming into the 26 season. Hey, Oo got any problems?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Young, this This is tough. Can I ask you a question?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Why isn't Josh Allen in front of my homes?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I guess they said, you know, the last couple of years he's been more consistent. And Mahomes coming off an injury, so they fact they're factoring.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I like staff. Staffing it from the borough. I like it. Lamar Jackson back. I. I like it. I mean, there's really nowhere I can argue. I can't. I can't really argue with anything outside of. Outside of 1 and 2. Stafford obviously belongs at 3, even though he's older. Burrow has a lot to prove, so where he at is respectable. Would like a little bit more playoff success from him and being healthy and staying healthy this year, he can move up Lamar Jackson again. He has to prove himself in the postseason. I mean, they're able to get there. Injuries kind of took a toll on them last year, so collective as a team, they didn't do well. And outside of that, the numbers, everyone after Lamar Jackson is about right where they should be.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you thinking, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I don't really. I don't see nowhere where you can gripe and groan as far as who should be moved. I see they got my boy Dak at six. All right. We can live with that. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. I. I don't see nothing wrong with the list.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta. You gotta. God, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Do y' all have a guy that y' all think should be in the top 10, that's not in the top 10?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not. Not me. Not.

[Uncle Ocho]

Not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. Look, I. I know Jordan Love has been considered, and Jordan Love have these peaks. He have these peaks where he'll go five, six weeks and he'll throw two, three touchdowns and no picks, and then he'll have weeks where he like, damn, bro. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Inconsistency.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But this guy that they got at

[Zepbound Medication Announcer]

10,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can imagine what he gonna be like in this second year in that offense.

[Uncle Ocho]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gonna be a lot better. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Caleb. Caleb.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. I wonder how many people would take Justin Herbert out and put Jordan Love.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't. I don't think the execs will. They. They. Because they love that size. They love that arm. And he's more mobile than you think.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm curious. I'm curious what the chat. Chat think, Chad. Would y' all take Justin Herbert out and put Jordan Love or.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

Or.

[Joe Johnson]

Or. Or no. Or you like. You like. The

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Drake may acquitted himself very well in the second year. I think he'll be even better in his third year under Josh McDaniels system.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lamar. The thing is, is Lamar is in a new system. And the thing is, if you go back and look at Lamar, Lamar won the MVP in Todd Monkey system, and he finished second in Todd Monkin system. Ocho and I, we talked. Ocho, we talked about it. We had it. We thought he had won it a second time. Josh Allen nipped him at the wire. Mahomes is Mahomes. Matthew Stafford seems to be getting better with age. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. He stays healthy. Dak put up some phenomenal numbers. Now he just has to do it in meaningful big games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I got just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, Drake May took a team. Jared Goff has always been to the super. Caleb. I. I expect Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

I have a question. We. We have a quarterback that started out in New York. Didn't go. Didn't play well, went to Carolina, you know, didn't do much. But he goes to Seattle and he. Not only does he go to Seattle, he goes. He went to Minnesota. Played extremely well in Minnesota.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He went to San Francisco.

[Joe Johnson]

San Francisco. Oh, my goodness. I forgot. He damn near journeyman, huh? He goes to Seattle and wins the super bowl his first year. So how is he not even in the top 10? What are you plugging Sam Donald in that equation? I'm tripping. Baker Mayfield is not on there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, but the question is okay to put Sam Darwin. Baker Mayfield. Justin Herbert.

[Joe Johnson]

Justin Herbert.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You taking Justin Herbert off? Okay, so you'll put. Just. So you go put Sam Darling and Justin.

[Joe Johnson]

I would. Or Jordan love. Or then you said one more quarterback interchangeable, because, I mean, what's the difference?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You take. You. So you. You take. You take Baker Mayfield over Justin Herbert.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like Baker, but I don't know if I take him over.

[Joe Johnson]

You're looking at Justin Herbert as the quarterback. And then tangibles, you know, tall, strong, can run, but. But Baker Mayfield is. Is. Is. Is the engine that makes that Tampa Bay offense go uncle. You can't deny him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If they can stay healthy. I like the running back situation in Tampa. They got to stay healthy because remember, Chris Godwin was Nick last year. Mike Evans was Nick, and Mecca Buka was doing very well. Then he got Nick at the end, you know, late in the season. If they can stay healthy, they got a solid defense. Now Levante David retired. So Vita Veer is gonna be a. You know, he's upset. He want a contract. He got no more guaranteed money. He wants to do a contract extension. Winfield Jr. I'm anxious to see how they do because I think. Hey, hey, Atlanta, y' all need to show me something. Y' all got too much damn talent.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's time too, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all got too much damn talent to be over there.

[Joe Johnson]

I like the controversy that's gonna happen over there in Atlanta too, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

As far as quarterback, he talking about

[Joe Johnson]

tua and hella quarterback controversy over there, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You think so? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, I don't even know who your starter gonna be.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, I mean, is Pinnock's healthy? I don't think he healthy from the procedure that he had. Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, he was throwing. He was throwing a mini camp.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, hell, Mahomes throwing at minicamp. Oh, Joe here. But you ain't. Is he gonna be ready to start the season?

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good. You know what? That's a good question. I'm not sure. He moving around like he was with that brace on.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him carrier contracts, tries to block him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he leaves him in the dust.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts why

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole.

[Uncle Ocho]

Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We gonna find out. Ocho. Jerry Rice chased down a heckler after messing up his golf swing during the 2026American Century Championship. Watch this, guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, yo.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey.

[Zepbound Medication Announcer]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go get him, jerry.

[Uncle Ocho]

Go get him, jerry. I'm sure he doesn't like that. We love you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, J. You know, J63. I. I don't understand, cuz he messed up his way. You can't like with somebody swing. You can't be talking during the swing.

[Uncle Ocho]

You holler four.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Supposed to be quiet on the golf court.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Angela Yee]

Four.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. You, you, you, you. You say four after they hit the ball, okay? Yes. Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

The m. That means that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, Jerry, take that golf serious now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, most people do who play. They take the game serious, bro. They don't play that. All that heckling and you talking and laughing and kikiing while I'm about to swing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, y' all can have that golf. Too expensive, boy. You see, I. Hey, I looked at the prices of clubs and. And the outfit and the shoes and. Nah, I'm good. Y' all can have.

[Uncle Ocho]

They ain't number one. Them LV jackets that you got over there.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna wear them. Joe, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't compare a jacket I'm gonna wear every time it's cold outside and I got to go somewhere cold to some damn golf clubs and golf attire.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You will use the same golf club every time you take your ass on the golf course. You don't change golf clubs.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you go get. Once you get them fitted.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, as you get. As you get better. You got to get better equipment.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It.

[Zepbound Medication Announcer]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, the same equipment. You're not looking that good, so you ain't got to get no better.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, if I get. If I get myself in the golf.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You only got one eye.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I play Cyclops. I played my whole career with one eye. That tell you how good I know. Now if I get into golf, boy. Hey, hey, Steph Curry. You might go sit down, boy, huh? Once I lock it on something. Joe, I'm here to be the best.

[Uncle Ocho]

You catch on like that, you catch on that fast.

[Joe Johnson]

Play soccer, didn't you? Huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I seen you playing soccer. But you playing against Home Depot Gold.

[Joe Johnson]

Regular people that play soccer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that man just worked a 14 hour shift out there trying to play some. Try to play soccer. Now. You ain't messing. You ain't messing with Steph. Them guys play too much. Oh, yeah, guys like Steph Curry, Romo. Guys that play every single day. You've got to play that every single day. Every single day to be good at

[Uncle Ocho]

it for like six to eight hours. See, it's about six.

[Joe Johnson]

Them six, eight hours I spent streaming, playing FIFA, playing Call of Duty, playing Battlefield, playing Madden. Now playing NCAA 27. You know, that's why I'm mad I'm not home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to be obsessed. Like you were in football.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In order to be good at golf, you got to be obsessed with it. Like that. That's. That's all my brother do is play golf. That's all he does.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's. It's every day. Hey, it's addicting when you. When you really find out how to hit that little white ball and you can get it to go where you want to go, that's when it starts getting really addictive.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And that's all he does is go to everybody. Tournament. Everybody got a golf tournament. My brother showed up. Alonzo. Morning. Otis Anderson. Grant Viewer. It doesn't matter.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gotta come. He gotta go check out Dominique. You know Dominique got a. Dominique Wilkins got a golf tournament where you have the East Lake?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I think he might have went to Dominic. I don't know. He might. I gotta ask him. I ask him.

[Uncle Ocho]

I know it's in. I know it's in Atlanta. I'm not sure the golf course.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But yeah, it's probably. He's probably at East Lake.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I don't play no golf. I got one hell of a swing, Joe boy. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm really.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm pup. I'm the putt. Putt. I. I beat I beat the brace off you. Enjoy. Putt, putt, y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to see my swing, Joe, because I know I'm really good at

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

relaxing, Boy, I'm on a palm tree.

[Joe Johnson]

Relaxing my body. Relaxing my body, Joe, you know? Yeah, I got my arm. I could just. That's real good technique, Joe. I just can't hit that damn ball, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, damn it all, that don't do me nothing. If you can't hit the ball, what

[Uncle Ocho]

the hell you got? Hey, Ocho, you gotta keep. You gotta keep your head down, bro. You gotta keep it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta be still, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got to be still and see this here.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. That's the hard part.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you better. You bet. You hit a baseball.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He think he in the baseball. Yeah. He don't know no better.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't like that. I ain't. Listen. That. That ain't for me, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me see you swing. Let me see you swing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hold. Let me show you my swing. Watch my swing, Joe. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Chad.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, watch me swing. Watch out. Hey, tell me where you can see me. Can you still see me?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Turn this way. Or turn this. Wait, which way?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Whichever way you want.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are you hitting crosshair?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You see? I got it right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right hand on top.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Right hand on top.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like this. Locked.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's locked. Like I'm holding something.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Peeking through index finger. What are you doing?

[Joe Johnson]

No, What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Your hips don't move, Ocho. Your body don't move. You be.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they didn't move,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Chad. Are y' all seeing what I'm seeing? Yeah, it look like everything at the damn bottom move.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't nothing moving.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm paying attention.

[Joe Johnson]

You messing up my swing. You worth it. I'm gonna have to Jerry Rice. You watch me now. Watch me. Just pick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay? Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Why you load up? You can't load up that left leg, man. You loading up that leg like you finna hit a ball. Baseball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gotta keep them feet planted, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they were playing it, Joe. They were planning. Hey, listen.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, see, Listen.

[Joe Johnson]

Every time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every time we chad about missing something

[Joe Johnson]

with me, listen to me now. Anytime you work with somebody, right? Anytime you work with somebody. Yeah, it's not gonna be perfect. But what I have and what you just saw is there's a foundation for improvement, huh? Yes, the foundation for improvement. Now, it's not gonna look like Scotty Scheffler, but I can get to look like Scotty Scheffler with two or Three months of training.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got me.

[Joe Johnson]

I think for somebody that don't golf and would never go out there. See, I look good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, No, I think you might be looking more like Adam Schefter. I don't know about those Scottish.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I didn't hit nine holes with Scotty. Had Augusta.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But they not gonna let you chop up Augusta.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, hell no. Tear they grass up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that way. That kind of hurt my. Hurt my peck a little bit. Yeah, I would say that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, man. Oh, don't get. Don't, don't, don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, don't look at the camera, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you see that?

[Uncle Ocho]

I see it.

[Joe Johnson]

I see rocked up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I see like a praying man. Let's do the joke, man. They gonna call somebody. Somebody got bugs in the room.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's what's gonna surprise him, right? When I see him in person, that's gonna surprise you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But God damn it, when you see in the bar, he go like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, joker strong. Yeah. Joe. Yeah. Last week before I came to New York, huh? I've been here about four days. Isn't that right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I got 3:15 two times.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, you could know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, you do two, you do 315.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm lying because I couldn't get it back up the second time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, you hit 315?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I hit 315.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Damn, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm. I ain't gonna punch you. I' ma slap you with my backhand because I don't want to mess up my nails.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. Oh, I'm. I'm gonna lift his little ass up and throw him over my shoulder. Wife. Yeah. I got something for. I got something for. I got something.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's all you. You can put them over your shoulder.

[Joe Johnson]

That's how I do my kids, man. Joe, don't do me like that in public, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen up. Nightcap is home to the Big Three. Reporting live on the Big Three. Just when you thought basketball season was over, you're wrong. We are just getting started this week. Coach Dr. J. Julius Irving and the undefeated Chicago Triplets are going up against Nick Young's LA Riot. Montrez Harold, Brandon Moss, Amir Johnson. Big man. Dwight Howard and Jordan Crawford. Big names, real Hoopers. No easy buckets.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's gonna be a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you thinking? You think. You think Chicago stay undefeated, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I think they gonna stay undefeated, man. They gotta. They got A great, solid team. I got your meaning. You don't know who gonna beat you. Like, they. Amir. Amir Johnson had like 27 and 15 the first game. Then they had another guy who come back. He may have 25, you know what I mean? They got so many guys who could beat you, bro. Montreal. Harris came, had 30 something one game. So every, every week they've had a different guy. And they got so many guys to where they're probably the deepest team in the big three right now. They playing the best basketball. They got the momentum, they got chemistry. They looking to go out there and try to get them one, bro. They trying to take advantage of the opportunity that they got. They got a great chance.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you ready? Joe, you still dress?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, we're gonna over there in Brooklyn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Braun knows where he's going. His goof, you know, what, just dragging it out for attention. So if he, Let me ask you a question. If he, if he'd have told you two weeks ago, was it not going to get covered. Y' all make it seem like he gonna get more attention by waiting this. He's gonna get the same amount of attention. And many believe this is probably, this is either this or next year. But a lot of people, probably 80% of the people believe this is his final year. 24th year, 24, Man, if y' all don't know anything about now, Brian gonna, gonna march to his own beat.

[Uncle Ocho]

And, and oo. I think he, it still may be a domino or two that need to fall before he really commit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I agree. Yeah, I think so, Joe. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I, I, I think, I think the thing is, is that

[Uncle Ocho]

something like this,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, it takes more time than you think. Yeah. Because I'm sure we've all been in a situation. Yeah, I'm gonna get that one. And then you, like, go home and you think about, like, nah, I think I'm gonna get this one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, damn, man, look at me. Maxi Embiid, J.

[Uncle Ocho]

Brown.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Edgecombe. Damn. Yanis. Me, Giannis. Bam Bam Hardaway, Junior Wiggins. But then I got a chance to play with staff at Draymond Brzimski.

[Joe Johnson]

And then I gotta deal with Cleveland.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got, oh, I got the two Twin Towers. I got Mobley, got Alan. I got Potentially Harden, got Mitchell. I don't think it's as easy as people think it is. I don't, Me personally, I don't I don't think it's as easy as people think it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

Me neither.

[Joe Johnson]

I know how easy it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The easiest decision he ever made was when he left Cleveland. The second time was nobody else even

[Uncle Ocho]

in the running, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He was going to the Lakers. Wasn't nobody in the running. It wasn't like the first time that he left Cleveland. He went to Miami. He ended up going to Miami, but everybody was pitching him. Chicago pitched him. The. The Knicks pitched him. Obviously, Miami pitched him. Ain't nobody pitching. When friendship started, Magic pulled up on. Magic pulled up RICH. Paul LeBron had the contract to have. So what y' all want to do? What y' all want to do?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. That's what Magic.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They have to sell it. Ron wanted to come to la.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I made his mind. I'm going to la. Ocho thought so. Elise wanted to go to Royale.

[Joe Johnson]

I think. I think it's gonna happen. I heard that. I heard the. The fee was, what, maybe 200, 250 million, something like that? The number. The numbers are crazy. I mean, he's really good, man. He. I. I might as well call Michael Alicia the Maestro, you know, based on the way he plays. He can create. He can dictate really, really, really good passer 1v1 situations. He's nice. He can create for others. He can create for himself. So I. I can see why there's a chance that Mourinho and Florentino Perez, if I'm not mistaken, might. Might pull the trigger on that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wow. If I so can get permission slip signed and notarized, y'.

[Boost Mobile Announcer]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all should hold the fishing competition at Coach Prime's late. That'll be Must See tv.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he got a notarized. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

This is getting out of hand now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This forgery, because we don't trust. I don't trust it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. This getting out of hand, guys. That's all that is getting out of hand. Hey, hey, hey. Let me tell y' all something funny, though, for real. I was going through the airport today, and this dude walked past me. He said, hey, Joe, man, don't. Don't believe that bull. That bull crap Ocho be talking about, man. Don't do it. Don't do it. He kept walking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He didn't say that.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said that he kept walking.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, damn. My light went out, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Love the late run, Ocho. I'm high as a mug. My bad. I. So how did you get a team? How did you get a deal with Team Jordan. And what's the perks you had of being a Team Jordan athlete, bro?

[Uncle Ocho]

I. I played on an olympic team in 2000. Was that 2006?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Well, we.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think we had. I think we lost to Argentina.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Argentina.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. They had this big dude. We couldn't stop over there. But anyway, Lynn Merritt and Nico Harrison, they both was with us throughout that whole trip when we was in China for like, what, three weeks to a month or so. And I remember close to being end of the trip. Lynn Mary, who's the head of Nike for the ones that don't know, he came up to me, he was like, man, what you think about being a Brand Jordan athlete? I'm like, let's do it. Cause you know, brand Jordan is Nike any damn way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So for me, that's kind of how it happened. And ever since then, bro, I just, you know, it's like a dream come true. Being part of the dream, being part of the brand, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all remember the Herculoids?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I do. I do. Ocho don't remember.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They had. Zach is the laser ray dragon. Tundra the Tremendous.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Eagle is the rocket. And they had a Gloop and Gleek with the blobs and I think Zandro, Tara and Darno. Yeah, with the kid, but I ain't seen that. I mean, you ever that it came out. They did an episode, but it. It was only out for like, one year, like in 1981. So it's been 45 years. And how I still remember them people. Sock, the laser ray dragon, he spit, like, out of an eyes and out of his tails. He could spit lasers and Tundra the Tremendous was like a. He was like. Like a rhinoceros, but he had a bunch of legs and igloo. Igu was a rock ape. Run through it.

[Joe Johnson]

What year was that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

1981.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I was that night.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's the year I was born.

[Joe Johnson]

What? You were 10? I was. I was 10. I was 9.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I was 13. I was 13.

[Joe Johnson]

13. I was 12.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man, they used to have good. They used to have good cartoons back in the day, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

They did, bro. They did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now it ain't no fun watching. Watching cartoons every day. You'd have to Saturday, get up early, get that cereal, watch the cartoons. Get up there. Cut the grass first. You got to cut that grass first. Good boy. Can you wish my son, Lamarck Jr. A happy birthday, which is on the 17th? He's a fourth. Fourth year PhD student studying cancer Biology at Washington U. He's also a big fan.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He abhors Turnovers. Absolutely. Lamar Junior. Happy 17th birthday, my boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Happy birthday, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he's a fourth year PhD student at 17.

[Joe Johnson]

He's smart, bro. Shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Salute to that. Hey. Hey, senior boy. You got something special on your hands, man. Boy, a fourth year PhD student. Wow. Go 2022. What up big three. Who was y' all celebrity crush growing up? Sad day. Pam Greer, Paula Abdul or someone else, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Paula forget. Forget everybody. My celebrity crush still to this day, it's two of them. Joe, man. Shaka Khan and Lynn Whitfield, man. What we talking about? Shaka Khan and Lynn Whitfield.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, can't nobody love you.

[Joe Johnson]

You ever seen Shaka Khan? I mean even right now. What's up?

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you can have. You can have my 401k and pension. What's up?

[Angela Yee]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Lynn Whitfield. That's the one playing

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

between love and hate.

[Uncle Ocho]

Thin line between love and hate.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, talk to me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. When I was growing up, the baddest woman on tv. Who? Jane Kennedy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What you know about Jane Kennedy, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I took a picture with her about something when I went to the All American bank last December. I got. I gotta find it. It might be at my grandma.

[Joe Johnson]

You should have got a number.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I was getting the gritty. I was dressed like Johnny Carson. I had on some tan slacks and a blue blazer. Jake.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was that woman. Drop dead gorgeous. I'm talking about. She was badass.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on now. Don't. Don't forget somebody. Now we talk about the most. The most gorgeous woman to ever grace the TV screen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but she's way before I attacked. That way the Horn was dead before I was born.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying. Hey, Joe, you never seen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh my God. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey. Vanessa Williams Gorgeous.

[Joe Johnson]

I forgot the dance movie. Vanessa Williams. She did. It was the day. I can't remember the name of the dance movie. Vanessa Williams Gorgeous. But Joe. Lena Horn. Joe, if you ever see we ever got time, ask your wife. Ask your wife about to remind you

[Uncle Ocho]

she ain't gonna know who that is.

[Joe Johnson]

You know who Lena Horn is? Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean she 10 years younger than me. Yeah. She ain't gonna know who no damn Liam Horn is.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, it's a movie called. It's a movie called Stormy Weather. A movie called Stormy Weather to introduce you to who Lena Horn is. And the actor and actress that she was,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kimberly Elise.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's my baby boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Elise Neal.

[Joe Johnson]

I like. I like Kimberly especially and set it off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's so Regina Hall? Hey, let me go. I'm stopping.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. And Jason Lyric and low down dirty Shane. Jada Pickett was serious, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you know about load out of. Oh, Shane. Good girl. Hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Lord, Shane.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was my movie. Boy, I be laughing so hard. Old boy is in the kitchen cooking up soft. Yeah, yeah. Did he want some? Shane said Dom.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're classics, boy. They're classics. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What, Ocho? When you gonna do the ice bucket challenge? I seen where you've been called out.

[Joe Johnson]

Who called you out on your shoot, bro? I don't know.

[Uncle Ocho]

And why you taking so long, man? Come on, man. Do the challenge, bro. Somebody call you out, man? You need to step up, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I gotta see it in order for me to know. Joe, you better watch your mouth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Huh? You want your teeth?

[Uncle Ocho]

You see? Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see?

[Uncle Ocho]

You see cats out here doing that? You supposed to just get. Get down for the crown, homie.

[Joe Johnson]

But how do you get some ice and come poured on me then? Joke.

[Uncle Ocho]

The bed. Say bed. Bet. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what we could do with that, we could do it right here. We in New York. Let's do it at Fanatics Fest.

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean, let's do it? What you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

The Ice Bugger challenge?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't got but one outfit.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't wore the same thing twice a day. You ain't noticed I had this green on on the show. The other.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just glad you got to fight them. Leopard print.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I left. I left him in Miami. I'm glad you reminded me. Bring them next time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Good.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm away when we go hunting, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who remembers the time when we go hunting? No, you gotta wear camouflage to go hunt. Who remember the time Ocho stood up ISO? I watched the Hogs game live. They did a sideline interview with Buddy Hill, and ISO was in the shot the entire time, looking lonely. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey. I hate you brought that up because, boy, that's a sensitive subject. Made me want to tie off and. You know what?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, it might be sensitive, but you're not showing up to Houston. It's sensitive to me, too, so I feel the same way.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, we're gonna get off, but you know what? We're just gonna get it on tomorrow. It ain't gonna really be a whole lot of talking chat. Y' all know I ain't really no talking ninja like that, but I got something for this boy. Nah, I'm sick Of it? Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it. Hey, I hope you ate one thing about it. Well, my hands registered, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I hope you can withstand that pressure.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

At 46, give me a realistic timeline for shoulder reconstruction. Rotators, labrum, bone on bone cleanup. A fully healed age just caught up. Would be supposed six to nine months. Feel realistic from the 31st of March. Yeah, that seems about realistic. Probably you go nine to 12 months, actually.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hold up while he talking. Real talk, you know, I just come off this little knee surgery, and I had a guy who I was doing physical therapy with. He had just had shoulder surgery. That man struggled way longer than me, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they showed. Ain't nothing to play with.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he got. Hello. He had a total reconstruction. He got re. Rotators, labrum, bone on bone cleanup. Yeah, bro. You give yourself nine to 12.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look, dude say he wish he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, nine to 12 months.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you gotta go. You gotta attack that thing too, because you can't go too hard because you mess around and tear. Because that labrum, they. They attach that back. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. And then the rotator cuff.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, look, the dude. The dude, the dude who had surgery, he said he wish he had my injury versus the injury that he had. He said that's how bad it was, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And that bone on bone, when they put that bone on bone. Cause you gotta realize bone on bone, that thing, that's a constant pain. And to fight through that and to try to get that range of motion so you can open that thing up.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's the hardest thing

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've had shoulder issues, man. And they say, just relax. Let me control it. Ah, no, don't control. Because they want you to just relax. Okay, Shannon, Just relax. Just relax. I got it. I got it. Nah, you don't got it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just to let that thing go, and then they control it and move it around, try to lift it all up like this.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Give yourself nine to 12 months, bro. You ain't. Don't be in no hurry.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't be in no hurry. Dallas Cowboy fan.

[Uncle Ocho]

Here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

ISO Daz. Did dad catch it? That game killed me. No dance. They catch it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on. Oh, you gotta chill. Oh, you gotta chill.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did Calvin Johnson catch the playoff in

[Joe Johnson]

Chicago when he used the ball to get. To bring it. Lift himself up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

That was a catch too, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What did they. What is the definition of a catch? Ocho? To the letter of the law, if a person in the field of play goes to the ground. And he's not forced to the ground. He must maintain possession of the ball throughout the entirety of the act of catching the football. So basically, you go to the ground, get your ass up, and hand the ball to the official.

[Joe Johnson]

Dang.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I knew once he reviewed it, I already said, no, they don't. They go. They gonna say that's the. That's the. The Calvin Johnson rule. I knew they was gonna do that because he went to the ground on his own.

[Joe Johnson]

It was funny. I remember exactly who they was playing in both them games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all know they made a hell

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

of a play, man. Up over the top of was fourth down. They came with a blitz.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know, and they penalize them. They penalize them for trying to. Trying to get in the end zone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, I caught that. But I don't care what y' all say. Ocho, you seen ISO's brother Andre Johnson did the. Finnegan better watch out, you know, see

[Uncle Ocho]

how he had Finnegan out there like a damn rag doll.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not Finnegan. You hear me? I'm okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, are you gonna be.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You're gonna be finishing every time you talk about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, you gonna be Finnegan.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't worry about the eye. I'm gonna knock the eye out of assope. You gonna be so Johnson. Yes. You got the right one, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, all right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

ISO, please remind Milk Dud he was wrong about Ja going to Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

I a talk about one person, man, who j wasn't going to Miami.

[Uncle Ocho]

That man. That man just throwing stuff at the wall, hoping it stick. Hell, he don't know what he doing

[Joe Johnson]

to come no damn Miami, man can't. Can't handle his business. And goddamn in.

[Angela Yee]

In.

[Joe Johnson]

In Memphis. You think he can come to Miami as well now?

[Uncle Ocho]

Look at him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, wow. Wow. Take him up under your wing, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. I was throwing. I was throwing it out there, just, you know, in Jess. No, but he's in the right place where he needs to be. In Portland. He gonna be all right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, King ISO. Ocho, can you wish my beautiful, amazing woman I've been with for five years and counting. Sierra, happy 38th birthday. And the bingo's going to win the super bowl. Who they? 513. Absolutely. Go ahead, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Happy birthday. He ain't being realistic here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy 38th birthday. Your king said y' all been together for five years and say it's been amazing. Five years and he doesn't know what he did the five years before he even met you. But now that he has you in his life. He can. He can't even fathom what it would be like not having you in his life.

[Uncle Ocho]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy 38th birthday and many more years.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. So I got me a little anniversary coming up, too, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you got coming on Anniversary.

[Joe Johnson]

But I'm trying to think.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, y'. All.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

that thing went by fast, too, boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Damn, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I actually stayed left. Wayne, look back. Period, right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, ojo, ocho. They say time flies, boy, when you're having a good time.

[Joe Johnson]

About that one, Joe, I'm picking up what you put down, you hear me? If you throw it on the ground twice, I'm gonna pick it up twice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I'm over here doing my one, two.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hello, Hello. What about your three, four.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the three fold. I'm trying. I'm thinking that it might hit the door.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That completes this episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. Up my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree, Liberty City legend. Dade County's own former Pro Bowl. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson, and y' all know it. That's him. The 501 area code. Hey. Little Rock, Arkansas native. University of Arkansas alumni. Seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks. The shooting guard, Mr. Clutch himself, ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier. Head over to laportierconac.com to purchase your bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Premium bsop drinks like an exo without the price. And we have it in two sizes. The 750 is the OG. The 375 is the Junior. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Thank you guys again for joining us. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you bright and early Saturday for Nightcap in the Day. Very special guest joining us, Jalen Brunson and Roman Reigns. You don't want to miss that. He's Ocho. He's ISO. Thank you, guys. See you on Saturday.

[Joe Johnson]

Peace.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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