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Joe
I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
Narrator/Advertiser
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
News Anchor
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Joe
All?
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Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder)
Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.
Podcast Host
We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
Narrator/Advertiser
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Podcast Host
Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and Sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode. Spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamarr and Billie Jean King.
Joe
Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye, she said, I heard that call. She had a stick. Man, please. I had to. Hey, me and my homeboy, we had to get it. We got it in. Hey, everybody knew who I was. I. I just needed one to ride shotgun with me. Cuz I was go. I was gonna get me, me. Now I needed somebody. That's why you gotta have that one. Guy better take one for the team. Even if it ain't the team.
Ocho
Hello.
Joe
He'll take it.
Ocho
Hello.
Joe
I had it, but, you know, but I got my girl on. Hey, my mama gonna take care of her.
Ocho
You gotta have one of them. You gotta have one.
Joe
Got that. He was the one. It didn't matter. It didn't matter.
Uncle Joe
It didn't matter who she was.
Joe
She could be 500 pounds, right? She could be. She could be 311 and 92 pounds.
Narrator/Advertiser
Yeah.
Joe
Right up his alley.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Ocho
Take it down through there. I already know it. I already know it.
Joe
So. But that was. Them were the days, Joe. I was like, lord have mercy. I was like. Because I was thinking, like, I wonder if anybody else doing this.
Ocho
Everybody doing it, bro.
Joe
Yeah, but see, I couldn't. I couldn't, like, you know, my. My man, I snuck such and such in the house. My mom was working and so forth. They were gone. And I. Man, I couldn't, man, I couldn't do it. I went, man, please. Ain't nobody bringing on them cast down them iron ass bed. All that squeaking going on.
Ocho
Hey, you know, like I tell y', all my oldest and being called a couple times, I know he gonna be probably embarrassed cause he be watching the show. But you know, like real talk, like, you know, we live in a little cul de sac where it ain't but like three houses in this gated community. So it's probably 10 to 12 cameras soon as you turn on the block. So it ain't nothing you can do that. It ain't gonna. It ain't somebody gonna see. Even if my neighbor see it, they gonna come right there. Oh, we see a. We see a car parked back there. And who was that? Oh, okay. All right, let me check on it.
Joe
You know what I'm saying? Hey.
Ocho
Oh, Joe, he had to. He had to sit out there in the car with his girlfriend one Time, I guess they had been out there about two, three hours. And the car didn't cut off. It didn't stop. It wouldn't start. So damn. So her dad. Her dad calling. But I don't. You know, I'm like, man, I don't know what the hell you talking about. Like, what are you talking about? Like, I ain't thinking my son out there, man. That man out there, you know. I said, man, don't you know, bro, I was once. I. I once used the car at times. I know what you out there doing, bro. You know what I'm saying? They think we crazy, man. Like, bro, why you think I'm so crazy, man? I know everything that going on for sure,
Joe
Abs. And that's what I'm saying. I'm like, guys, y' all trying to pull something that I. I did. Whatever you think about. I done thought about it twice. Whatever you did, I did it three times. You can't fold me. I said, y' all gotta realize. I said, the differences between. I was a. I was a star athlete. Everybody in the surrounding counties knew who I was, right? So it wasn't nothing. Like I said, I had a homeboy. Hey, I had a homeboy that. Hey, we be walking the street. Well, you know, I want to, but. Hey, I called my homeboy. I should have. I should have had liberty to have me call in and ask it. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, I already know Sean's gonna have them. He said I take leftovers. Hey, hey, I still eat leftovers to this day. I could call it right now. To this day. Hey, man, look here. I got something I need you to do, man.
Ocho
She probably.
Joe
I'm telling me, she ain't no looking out. Like my grandma used to say, boy, she ain't easy on the eyes. She hard on the eyes, man. Sharp. You know that ain't. Hey, you know that, right?
Uncle Joe
Yeah. He got it.
Narrator/Advertiser
Yes.
Joe
Right? To this day, take it for the team.
Ocho
You gotta have one.
Joe
You need one. Cause, you know, most of the time, every. See, the thing is, if you think about it, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Ain't a whole lot of tens travel with tens. Cause they want to be the baddest one in the group.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Joe
They gonna Travel with a 10. They gonna be whoever the 10. They might. Might be one more. But then you gonna go out of, like, eight, seven, six, and you always have a two or three in there. Cause, you know, guess what? They got one. They gonna need one to take one for the team.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Cat.
Joe
What?
Ocho
Cause she gonna be Hating. Boy, that look, that two of that four in the. In the group.
Joe
He gonna be hating.
Ocho
Oh, she gonna be hating.
Joe
Hold on. Yeah. Shut up.
Boost Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey. Hey, you. You trying to talk.
Joe
You talking for.
Uncle Joe
They say. Hey, you know how you used to
Joe
be down there to call? Hey, you be down there like this here. You on one leg in. In the passenger window. You like this here? What's up? What's up? She in the back. He ain't no sh. Will you be quiet?
Starbucks Advertiser
Damn.
Uncle Joe
Hey, it's always one.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Ain't nobody talking to you. First of all, you not driving. You. You in the back seat for a reason, cuz they don't want nobody to see you. I'm talking to her or the driver.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. Every time. Hey, your boy ain't lying, boy.
Joe
I want the day to come back.
Ocho
Like I said.
Joe
Thank you. Ain't got nothing like they pop, huh?
Uncle Joe
Good day. That was a good day, though.
Joe
That was a fun time. They were. But all you had was like, man. Man, what you gonna be like, man, when you get 25 upset, man? I'm being the NFL. You'd be like, man, sharp. I know, boy. I know you gonna have them. Oh, boy, you gonna have them. My grandma used to tell me all the time, boy, good times ain't gonna owe you nothing. It won't and it don't. That's why. That's what Joe with Ultra we talking about, man. Oh, you need to get out. You need to go.
Ocho
You done it.
Starbucks Advertiser
Done it.
Ocho
Ojo.
Uncle Joe
He didn't.
Ocho
He already threw that thing apart. Every boy, he didn't threw it apart at plenty of time.
Joe
Vegas, I used to come to. I used to come to Vegas.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Oh, Lord, I, I.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe. See, Unc done had a time, right? But I never had to. I never had the opportunity to have the kind of time he had. You know, I. I wasn't a clubber. There's certain things I still want to do, even at my big age, that I able to experience even during my playing days.
Joe
What you want to experience?
Uncle Joe
I want to know what it's like to go to the club. Huh? I want to know what it's like, Joe, to pop bottles. I want to know what it's like to stand on the couch, Joe. No, I want to know what that feel like. I still have yet to do that, Joe. I didn't been in Miami all my life, Joe. I ain't been to club live yet, Joe. I done been to booby trap one time that. Cause my older daughter took.
Ocho
Hey, Ocho. Ocho, it's overrated. It's overrated. But when you go there and you hunt like we used to do back when we were young, we should be hunting. We should be out hunting.
Joe
Hear me? Yeah, for sure.
Ocho
We going in there thinking like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna find me something new tonight. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking something new. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Now, it can't be overrated, Joe. From the stories I'd be hearing, Joe, it can't be overrated.
Joe
But once you. But once you've done it. Joe said, once you've been there and done that.
Ocho
See, you ain't see. Oh, you go party now, you ain't gonna be hunting. You just gonna go out there.
Joe
Yeah. You got kept on the gas.
Uncle Joe
I. I would. The stories that I hear, the stories that I've heard over the years, I want to experience that. And Joe, you know. You know why I ain't go. I ain't spending no money. They telling me how much the. The table and the section. What y' all doing? And I'm. You telling me how good of a time you had. I'm listening to the number that you paid. I'm saying, what you doing? And here I go. About the money you're wasting.
Ocho
I understand that. I understand that.
Joe
Yeah. I mean, you got me with. I mean, it's over. You got. I mean, for you to. To fully get the concept of what it's like, you got to be single.
Ocho
Absolutely.
Joe
That's the only. That's the only way you can experience. Because something. There's nothing like a lived experience. Experience. Somebody telling you something is one thing. You living it.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
Is something entirely different. Like, I can tell people what freak Nick was like, and unless you were there.
Uncle Joe
Right. You'll never know.
Ocho
Hey, hey. And if you ain't single, that means you.
Joe
You ain't.
Ocho
You don't give a damn. It's one or the other, either you single, you don't give a damn.
Uncle Joe
Right?
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah. That's the only way you're gonna enjoy now.
Joe
Hey, hold on.
Uncle Joe
I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take mother half with me now.
Ocho
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay.
Joe
Well, you ain't gonna. I'm. I mean, look, and from what I hear, they be like that, but I. Nah, I'm good.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Hey, ain't nobody else great. Ain't nobody else getting on the team.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, Joe, why you think I keep telling Unc, man, we gotta. Man, we gotta get down to Area 29.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
The small experience that I had, that adrenaline Rush that high. Being that it's something that I don't do often. That was exciting to me. And I'm good.
Joe
It's exciting now, you know. You know, I was. Went to the city and. And the girls fine. I mean, I didn't go a whole bunch, but when I. Hey, they Hey, I can see why guys be marrying them.
Uncle Joe
Hey.
Joe
Cause they be fine as a mofo. And I'm talking about. And I'm talking about tens.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey. Hey, hold on. Joe. Chad. Joe. I did. I was in. I think I had a sign. And I had a sign. I was in. I was in Houston for one hour. Had to go do a sign right now. One hour. But for one day, I did the show from Area 29. I asked us the owner. I say, dude, I've never been here before. Would you mind? How's the WI fi? Is the WI fi here good? Can I do the show here so I can show unk like, boom. Yeah, I made it happy. I'm a grown man. Why I'm excited to be in Area 29? Because I'm not used to being in that type of environment. Joe. Why had we had. We had three dances on the show? Joe. Joe. They were so. Wait, I can't get myself in trouble. Joe.
Ocho
Like that.
Joe
Yeah. They was all. They was on the show. They tell their name and.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, Joe.
Ocho
Hey, I've never been to Area 20. Was 29.
News Anchor
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe. Oh, my God.
Ocho
Oh, Joe.
Uncle Joe
Joe. I can sit here and cry right now. And cute. Joe. I ain't never seen that. I ain't.
Joe
Look, when I went to the freak nick and I saw those women, I said, I gotta move here. Hey. I say, if I tell the. Hey. I said, I went home because I got there that. That Friday, and back then, we have no hotel. Me and my brother stayed right at the house. You know, the Hyatt right now. Yeah. So went to a. I said, hey, bro, meet me in Atlanta. I said, okay. He said, where we gonna meet at? I said, meet me at the Hyatt. Because back then, they had no gps. I ain't have no Map Quest. I say, hey. Cause we had stayed at the High before. Got there. I said, y' all got any room? They're like, yeah, but you gotta. I have a. Got no credit card. I said, I got cash. How much. How much we got to put down for the deposit? So how many rooms? I said, we need two rooms. I said, I give you $2,000 cash deposit for both rooms. Because, you know, back then, hey, I ain't leave home. I ain't leave home without 10 bands on me, okay? Never left home without 10 bands. At least. At the bare minimum. I don't care like that. I got credit cards now, so I ain't got to carry no kind of cash. Got the room with me and my brother. I said, man, I said, what you think, Spank? He said, man, shh. He said, I'm gonna stay in South Carolina. I said, I'm moving here. I said, I'm moving, man. I called, I got home, got home Sunday night, Monday. I called my agent. Lady met me, like on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
Starbucks Advertiser
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Joe
And I'll close them. I. I had me a house that Thursday. Closed on that thing a month later. Yes, yes, Lord.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey. What you think? What you think about it?
Starbucks Advertiser
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Uncle Joe
Let's get a place in Houston.
Joe
Oh, hey, boy, you watch your pull up here.
Ocho
Oh, oh, hey, you talking about all three of us?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, y' all all. Let's get some, you know, probably in the same gated community, you know, some, you know, 10,000 square feet.
Joe
No, no, absolutely not. No, absolutely not. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you know what you get? You get a lot of bang for your buck when it comes to, you know, your housing.
Joe
Now, all I'm saying is this, is that I came this close to moving to Houston before I moved to Vegas. Looked at Austin, looked at Dallas, looked at Nashville, looked at Houston, looked at Vegas. Vegas won out. Because I spent so much time in LA, right? Only a 40 minute flight from Vegas to LA and back and forth to be in Houston. That was the only reason. And then, Lord have mercy, what happened?
Uncle Joe
Take your time now what happens?
Joe
I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. I mean, I love it. I can't, man. Look here, look here, bro. I live every day, every day. I gotta walk the straight and narrow every day.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Joe
The Houston guy, I used to think Atlanta in Atlanta and Atlanta got some nice looking women, don't get me wrong.
Uncle Joe
Absolutely.
Joe
But Houston's on another level right now.
Uncle Joe
Different
Joe
right now.
Uncle Joe
I call it the Devil's playground.
Ocho
Yeah,
Joe
so I'm good. Me and babe, you know, Vegas, you know, Vegas be. Be popping it. Don't. But I'm cool. I don't need it to be popping. I don't go down to the Strip unless I got a function. I got something got to do, you know, we doing something with, you know, X, Y and Z. Other than that, I don't go to the Strip. Houston, y'. All. Somebody get a place in Houston.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, hey, hold on. We gonna be out the way now. We ain't got to be in the mix.
Joe
Can you.
Ocho
Hey, can you. Can you imagine the opportunities what we get in Houston?
Uncle Joe
Yeah,
Joe
opportunities. You talking about the cat opportunities y' all talking about. I don't want no party.
Uncle Joe
We talk about business, you know.
Joe
No, I'm good.
Ocho
And, man, you ain't even think about it. Your answer so quick.
Joe
Oh, oh, hold on. Joe, he talking about, man, I call Houston the devil playground. You looking at the devil. What the hell? No, man, I'm good. No, already know me. Every man. Clint Eastwood said it. Every man got to know his limitations.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Joe
Every man got to know his limitations.
Uncle Joe
Remember what Joe said. Joe, what you said about the men.
Ocho
You can look at the menu. You ain't got to order nothing.
Uncle Joe
There it is.
Joe
You can look at the menu.
Uncle Joe
We good.
Joe
How many times you don't like. You know what? As a matter of fact, let me change that. Let me. Instead of baby potato. Let me get the. Let me get the grotting potatoes. How many times you don't change your mind looking at that? Damn me, man, looking for Joe. Hey, listening to that joke.
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Joe
Show out of his damn mind.
Ocho
Well, hey, look, Houston ain't no joke. For real. I already know.
Joe
All right,
Uncle Joe
Just a thought.
Joe
Ain't no thought. And plus, of all you in Miami. So we all go. Go. We all go. Go to. Joe will get a place. You go get a place. I will get a place. That means I got three places. I got a place in Atlanta, I got a place in Vegas, and I have.
Uncle Joe
You don't need. You don't need your place in Vegas. Cause you. You finna. You're gonna get you a big boy out there, Houston.
Joe
Oh, no.
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Joe
I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait.
Narrator/Advertiser
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
News Anchor
We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
NBC News Announcer
NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America, bro.
Ocho
From the show last night to this drive. Why is it never chill?
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Joe
Good thing Nissan builds for that kind of chaos.
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Ocho
Yeah, you can tell.
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Ocho
Weather, traffic.
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Karen and Georgia (My Favorite Murder)
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Uncle Joe
Let me tell you something.
Joe
Oh, no, that's not going to be my main residence.
Uncle Joe
Listen, all jokes aside, if y' all was to do it for real, I leave Miami. Cause that ain't nothing but an hour and 40 minute flight.
Joe
I leave.
Uncle Joe
Kids come. Kids come with me and all.
Joe
Yeah, no, I'm good.
Uncle Joe
Or you know the kind of house I can get in in Houston.
Joe
Oh, I know, man.
Uncle Joe
War. Please.
Joe
I know. I'm good.
Ocho
I'm good.
Joe
I mean, you know, Joe le. You know, hey, Joe, you stay in Atlanta, I'M gonna stay. I think. I think it works perfectly. So. Oo you in Miami, Joe in Atlanta. I'm in Vegas. I mean, we get. Hey, we got a nice little.
Uncle Joe
Hey, nah, hold on.
Boost Mobile Advertiser
But.
Uncle Joe
But think about this. Think about if we all lived in Houston and we all had a studio we can all go to and do live every night. Entertainment.
Ocho
No, I don't agree with Ocho too much now. I don't agree with him too damn much, but, yeah, man got a point now.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey.
Joe
Yeah, he do got a point. Unfortunately, it's on the top of his head. And I ain't listening to nothing that man said. Hell no.
Uncle Joe
Hey, think about it now. No state taxes now.
Joe
Ain't got no state tax in Vegas. They didn't have no state tax in Tennessee.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, but that's why.
Joe
Those are the state. That's why I looked at Texas. Dallas, Austin, Houston, Nashville, Vegas, like, okay, Nashville was just too far. Nashville is a place that once I'm done. Done with this, I'm. I can see myself in Nashville. Have me a farm. Have me a couple of little mini highland cows and. And. And horses and some raccoons and stuff on the farm. Stuff like that. Dogs running the property, Stuff like that. But no, no, man, I can't do Houston. Guy, come on, man.
Uncle Joe
Hey, think about it, boy. My grandma said you only live once now.
Ocho
Yolo.
Joe
And you know what? If you do it right, that's all you need.
NBC News Announcer
I'm good.
Joe
If you live right, you don't need to live twice.
Uncle Joe
I got you, man.
Joe
You outvoted Bad Joe.
Ocho
Bad.
Joe
See, I keep telling y'.
Ocho
All.
Joe
Y' all keep. Y' all keep sleeping on Joe now. Y' all see Joe New colors.
Ocho
Yeah, listen, listen.
Joe
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ocho
Listen, I'm following. You guys lead, man. I'm following Ocho League.
Joe
I ain't mentioned nothing. I ain't mentioned nothing.
Ocho
Ocho did.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I'm just. I'm just thinking about that.
Joe
When we gonna listen to Ocho, huh? Since we started.
Ocho
That's what I'm saying. I normally don't listen to him, but he got a pretty good damn point right now.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I'm talking about taking Nightcap to the next level. Can you imagine? Hey, hey, Joe, what's the name of the Texas stadium?
Ocho
Texas nrg.
Uncle Joe
I think it's nrg, but think about it.
Joe
You talk about what? What The Texas place. But yeah, I think it's nrg.
Uncle Joe
Let me tell you, right? We move to Houston, Joe. It's summertime yeah.
Nissan Advertiser
Huh?
Uncle Joe
We. We could do a live nightcap show and sell out NRG Stadium.
Ocho
I see that. I can see that.
Uncle Joe
What we talking about? What are we talking about?
NBC News Announcer
Huh? Huh?
Uncle Joe
Think about the. The business opportunities that we can have. And you.
Ocho
Hey, Ocho, I'm with you when you write. We just got to get one person on board. We got to get them on board.
Uncle Joe
That's what I'm talking about. We could go do night. We could do nightcap at Denver. I don't even know. I don't know the name of stadium. I don't even know the name of stadium. We can sell out Denver Stadium right now like it's a football game in Cincinnati. We can go sell out paycor Stadium right now. Nightcap in CIT in Cincinnati, live with the big three. Man, talk about, man, we can come out to our own.
Ocho
You talking about a time. You talking about a time.
Uncle Joe
You gotta. You gotta. You gotta think. You gotta think. Business, man. Business.
Joe
Let me think about it.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, okay. Hey, that my dog.
Joe
Let's go. The video made the rounds of a backup point guard named Tyler Kick, briefly stopped by police officers who apparently didn't recognize him as a player. Take a look at this video, guys.
Ocho
Damn.
Uncle Joe
He likeweight. Look like he looked like one of the fans that jumped the barricade. Yeah, he blew right in.
Joe
I've seen him on the bench, but I can see they. If they don't watch, they absolutely think he'll fan to jump the barricade he got in there.
Uncle Joe
That's an honest mistake on their part.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, he out there jumping around, running. Hell, I thought he was, too, at first. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.
Joe
How many white guys they got on the team, too? He don't look like Jalen Brunson. He'll look like Cat. He'll look like. He'll look like none of the ones that normally play, Bro, get your ass out of here.
Ocho
Right.
Uncle Joe
Hey.
Joe
Hey.
Ocho
They better put his ass right back over that gate.
Joe
Exactly. Exactly. They looking at him like, bro, man, I play with the Knicks. I swear I do. Okay, Knicks ain't got no mascot, so. Hell no. But, hey, he was having. He's having him a good old time. Let the bed let the bad live.
Ocho
It was, man. Hey, they look like they thoroughly enjoyed themselves out there today, boy.
Uncle Joe
Oh, hold on. It ain't over now. You know they. Oh, they finna party. What?
Joe
He probably get that. Guess what? He probably get that going to the games, Joe. They looking at who you, bro, you don't play on the team. I ain't never seen you in the game.
Ocho
You probably right. You probably right.
Joe
Yeah. Jalen Brunson spoke at the parade. Let's take a listen. What JB had to say. There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions,
Ocho
but when you
Joe
prove them wrong, you really have to.
Ocho
You don't have to say to them,
Joe
Nah, they don't deserve it. They don't deserve it.
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Ocho
I liked it.
Uncle Joe
Oh, you can't. He kept it short and sweet, man. He's supposed to talk issues.
Joe
No, he said, I ain't gotta. Hey, I ain't gotta prove y' all wrong. I just gotta prove me right. And then you.
Ocho
I ain't gotta call no names. None of that. You know who you are.
Joe
But y' all know who you know.
Ocho
You are absolutely right.
Uncle Joe
Hey, that's dope, man. I can't believe him.
Joe
Winning a title launches him in a whole new stratosphere. He. I don't even know if he realized what winning that title does at his size in that city, what that's done for his legacy. I only realize. I don't know if he realized.
Ocho
Probably not right now. You know, it's kind of hard when you write in the moment, you know, to really, really. To really understand what you've done. But after some time goes by, maybe even a couple weeks, maybe even a month, fellas, you know, he'll probably think back like, damn, man, we really won an NBA championship. Yeah.
Joe
Yes. Cause it's. It's so surreal when it's happening and you just caught up in it. You with your boys, y' all laughing, y' all joking, like, man, we having a good time. X, Y, and Z. And then when you get by yourself, you're like, man, now everybody call you Champ. What's up, Champ? Yeah, what's up, Champ? What's up, Champ? You walk into a room, I don't got to take a backseat. Nobody. I got a championship. I'm the finals mvp.
Ocho
Hey, not only. Not only do I have a championship and I'm the finals mvp, but I did it in. In New York, fellas. I did it in the Mecca. In the Mecca, bro. What is it, 53 years? An. Ooh.
Joe
53.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
1973.
Ocho
Abrah Brunson stamped. He stamped, bro. He stamped.
Uncle Joe
That's dope.
Joe
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I had an opportunity to meet his dad. Unbelievable. Like I said, as a matter of fact. Oh, I was at. In Atlanta when I met his dad met. I was at dinner and I met the other guys. West and another guy. I forget his name. Was it Rose?
Ocho
Leon Rose? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, him and World Wide West. They don't want to put this team together.
Joe
Yeah, I met both of them, man. Yesterday, Jordan woods was asked about the rumored no sex rule the New York Knicks players were allegedly encouraged to follow during the 10 week pledge playoff run. The request reportedly came from the very top, with team owner James Dolan wanting players to fully lock in during such a critical stretch. Jordan made it clear she and Cat didn't exactly stick to plan, which what
Uncle Joe
we talked about, you know, Ain't nobody sticking to that plan.
Joe
It's easier to stick to the plan if you like a boxer or you're like a fighter when you go away and they're not there. But if I'm there, I'm walking around. You walking around. You get out the shower, I see that water glistening off your body.
Ocho
It's gonna go down. It's gonna go down. It's gonna go down.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
You need that reset. That reset away from practice. That reset away from all the.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Needed all the stuff going on, man.
Ocho
Hey, man, I remember. I remember being in college and coach Nolan Richardson was telling us about. I think it was a time when he was playing. So, you know, this was back in the day. They would put stuff in their food. They would put stuff in their food to where they. They stuff. Wouldn't even get it. Wouldn't even.
Joe
Yeah, put that. Salt. They put that. They used to call it salt pea.
Ocho
I can't remember the name he said, but he said your jump wouldn't even get hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you wouldn't have sex when you was competing?
Joe
Well, you could. Hey, boy, you'd have to pour the gun at the beginning. Real talk, Joe. I'm telling you now,
Uncle Joe
Man.
Joe
Hey, like I said, if you go away Ocho, like. Like them boxers or people go away to train, you go six, eight weeks, you had a camp. Ain't no women there.
Uncle Joe
No, no, no.
Joe
So it's e. I'm not saying it's easy. It's easier.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Because the. The temptation is not there. But if you around, oh, I'm laying there and she's snuggling. She back up next to me, huh?
Ocho
You already know it.
Joe
She got a T shirt on. You know that the best lingerie is a T shirt. No baddies. That's the best lingerie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Dolan, I understand what you're saying, but
Uncle Joe
yeah, it sounds good.
Joe
Look, I'm superstitious as well. Now, had we. Look, we wore the same once we in. In the super bowl that year, we wore the same. Everybody wore the same suit. So the last. We won that game in Kansas City, we wore that suit to Pittsburgh. We wore that suit to play Green Bay in. In San Diego. But I don't know how. I. I don't know. And I. I'm a very disciplined and I'm very structured. But, boy, I don't. I don't know about that. I don't know about that rule.
Ocho
Yeah. Hey, you got to be different, boy. Locked in.
Joe
I mean, how many times the guy is gonna go to the bar and knows that, you know, hey, he likes alcohol. He gonna go to the bar for 10 weeks, sit at the bar. Him really? Guy gotta get a problem. O Jojo. He gonna go to the casino and sit at the blackjack table. He gonna sit at the craft table and. Come on, let's be real. Like I said, if, if. If we go away, no problem. As a matter of fact, just to make sure. Hey, don't send me no pictures. Hey, don't be talking. Hey, just. Hey. Hey. Hey, how you doing?
Ocho
I'm good.
Joe
Blah, blah, blah. Had a dog. Good. Hey, kid, you know, if you married, got. Hey, kids, good. All right, y' all at you. But to be walking around, man, please, because they're gonna be a time that you're gonna look back and wish you could. They gonna be a tag. It ain't gonna be longer than 10 weeks. It might be 10 months. It might be 10 years. When all you could do is think about what you used to be able to do.
Uncle Joe
All right, I'm good days.
Joe
We do that right now. Hey, Joe, you. Hey, man, you. Joe, you be thinking about, man. Man, I remember I used to get up and down this cold. Hey, I can run up and down this coat seven, eight, nine, ten times. Let three, four threes go. Get down, lay the ball up, get it back, do all that. All that. Just a figment of your imagination now.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Damn.
Ocho
Hey, I'm gonna get back to it, though, huh?
Joe
Well, you better get back to it. For Ocho. For Ocho. Because you need to go and get that leg back strong, Joe.
Ocho
Oh. Oh. If I don't do nothing else with tears in my eyes, you and Ocho look at me with tears in my eyes. Yeah, well, I get this leg right, Ocho, I promise you. Chat. Y' all hear me out. Boy, you gonna be. I'm coming to Miami. You're gonna be the first person I come see.
Uncle Joe
I tell you what, them tears probably gonna keep flowing now you play me.
Ocho
Hey, we talk about a mean demonstration on here with tears in my eyes, homie.
Joe
You gonna put it down on the joke?
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, uncle crying.
Ocho
Oh, if his ass, if he want to go viral, damn it, he going viral that day. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, it's so funny. It's so funny. I gotta, I got a Mexican, Mexican homeboy just like you.
Ocho
What do you mean? What you mean, huh?
Uncle Joe
You got, he got one leg,
Ocho
Ocho. I, I, you know what? I know we, we have a good time on here, but I really ain't the one to play with. I'm just gonna keep it 100 with you. I really am.
Uncle Joe
When I look at you. It's a game.
Ocho
Okay?
Uncle Joe
Huh? Hey, Joe. When I see you, Joe, you like an Xbox, Okay?
Ocho
That's all I need. See, for a guy like me, Ocho, I just need one thing to piss me off. And once I get pissed off, it's a rap. It's a rap.
Joe
He pissing you off right?
Ocho
Now,
Joe
that man, Joe, Ocho, that man said you got him pissed to the highest level of positivity.
Uncle Joe
Hey, the funny thing about it, too, you know what I did before every game, 11, 12 years straight, I tried to piss my opponents off. I tried to piss him off because
Joe
I want you try. So this, this is your tactic. This is, this is what Ocho is known for.
Uncle Joe
I want you as mad as possible. So when I do your ass and you understand, there's nothing you could do. There's no training, there's no film. There's nothing you do to stop me from keeping me off the way.
Ocho
Hey, it's gonna be. See, when I'm pissed off, I ain't out of control. I, I have a control rage. You know what I'm saying? Control rage. How to keep things in the pocket and really do damage. Like, I'm, I'm really, I'm really not. What you looking for, Ultra? I'm just gonna keep it 100.
Uncle Joe
Hey, what you, what you described to me, it sound like you're playing a video game. This. That ain't real life. That ain't real life. Because I got, I got a set of skills, a peculiar set of skills that over time, that I've mastered, that
Joe
you've acquired over, over a finite period of time.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He don't even know what he's getting himself into because I laugh and I joke and I entertain.
Joe
Yeah. Yeah, he take you for a joke.
Uncle Joe
He didn't even see that.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
You ain't seen that, Joe.
Ocho
All right, well, I'm looking for it. I'm looking for the other side.
Uncle Joe
Hey, John, take my. I'm flip your ass.
Ocho
Okay, well, I want to see it. I want to see it.
Joe
I want to see it.
Ocho
With your little tough ass, I want to see it.
Uncle Joe
You go see it.
Joe
But. But, Joe, you got to get the leg. I mean. I mean, you almost two. You almost 100 pounds of pressure. Less on the left.
Ocho
I'm working every day. I'm get there. Don't even worry about that. I'm gonna get you.
Uncle Joe
And he was saying, hey, he been working on that leg for about a dam. I ain't trying to hear that no more, man.
Ocho
Ain't been for 10 months. It been 10 months, bro.
Uncle Joe
That two more months is a year.
Ocho
Yeah, that's in two more months. I'm gonna be. Two more months. I'm gonna be right. What the hell you talking about?
Uncle Joe
All right.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
All right.
Joe
You rehab. How many days a week you rehab? Two.
Ocho
Every day. Five Every.
Joe
Every day. He rehabbing every day.
Uncle Joe
It's so funny. He rehabbing just to be back in rehab when I'm done with it.
Ocho
Okay, well, you gonna see. Oh, Chad, Chad, I promise you. I promise you, boy. Hey, look, if I don't put down a mean demonstration, boy, something wrong. You hear me? I promise you.
Uncle Joe
But something wrong. Something wrong already. Something wrong.
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Uncle Joe
You thinking you could do something with me in any sport, let alone. Damn, Joe, I'm better than you at your own job.
Ocho
You think so?
Uncle Joe
And I'm a Hooper, Joe. Huh?
Ocho
Oh, wow, boy. A lot on camp.
Uncle Joe
I'm ready, man.
Joe
I know. I was thinking. I was thinking he'd get you in. In a. In football, Joe, but he talking about he. You think he give me. Hold on, hold on.
Ocho
What make you think he get me in football? You think because he get Damn.
Joe
Okay. Give me no damn football. Hey, hey, Joe. Oo. Joe say hey. All he gotta do is put the hands on you because you know Joe got them all.
Ocho
What he gonna do with that? Tell the truth. What he gonna do with that?
Uncle Joe
Hey, the same. The same thing. Everybody else for long.
Ocho
I'm pushing. Hey, I'm gonna push this little ass down in the dirt. He ain't gonna be damn.
Uncle Joe
Yo, ain't nobody finna touch me off that line. Joe, stop.
Joe
Joe. So. So, Joe, you go, hey, you. What you gonna do? You gonna do the creek and you gonna pretend like you Walking off and freezing. James, you gonna stab. What you gonna do?
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Ocho
I'm gonna mix it up. I ain't gonna never mix it up on you again. I'm gonna give him a little bit of everything.
Joe
Ocho. Hey. He say, you know, hey, we so be able saw what Sneed did. Sneed did Tyreek.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that ain't gonna work.
Ocho
Oh.
Joe
Or he got the stab. Hey.
Uncle Joe
Bam.
Joe
A bam.
Uncle Joe
Hey. As soon as he stabbed, I'm grabbing that wrist and pull it through.
Ocho
Because when I put my hands on him, when I grab him, I'm gonna lift his little ass up off the ground.
Joe
Damn. Damn, Joe.
Ocho
Lift this little ass up.
Joe
Yeah. I mean. Cause you got five. You got. You got five yards. Yeah.
Ocho
Hello. Hello.
Joe
You got five.
Ocho
And you know. You know he don't like to be touched. He ain't physical. He don't want that. He don't want that contact. Damn.
Joe
Oh, Ocho, that man said you don't want that contact.
Uncle Joe
You ain't physical.
Joe
He said you don't.
Ocho
You don't want that contact.
Joe
Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Come on. Come on up there with your bad self. Then I tell you that. Matter of fact, the first rep, I'm gonna just run right through you.
Ocho
That ain't possible.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. Just to set the tone, to let you know. Hold on.
Joe
Hold on, Ocho. You gonna run on the top.
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Uncle Joe
Run right through him. He think. He think I'm a shake. I'm running right through him. Running.
Ocho
Come on. Keep it 100, bro. Keep it 100. Come on.
Joe
I don't know. I don't. I don't know about that, Ocho. I mean, Joe. Joe say 250 right now.
Uncle Joe
What that means? What'd that tell you? If he too feeding slow, he gonna be his feet. His feet gonna be moving.
Ocho
68. I should be about 250ojo.
Uncle Joe
And that 6, 8 don't mean nothing. Jolly Green Giant. I don't see that. I don't see that. Joe. Listen, I'm not under them other. Them other little giant turkeys you be playing, Jody. I'm not one of them. Yeah, it's different over here, Joe. You know where I'm from.
Joe
I don't know. Ocho, you better get your SWAT gay. You better get your hands ready. Cause I don't know you Ain't did a whole lot of swatting lately.
Uncle Joe
Listen, Joe, that's cooking.
Ocho
He.
Uncle Joe
He think.
Joe
He think.
Ocho
Cause he been out there with them high schoolers. I've been out killing the high school.
Uncle Joe
High school? High school.
Joe
Yeah. Them kids out there working with, those are.
Uncle Joe
Those are premier college. They high schoolers and NFL receivers, huh? Everybody, bro.
Ocho
Not only, not only my db, but you already know he damn sure can't guard me. You know he can't guard me.
Joe
Hey, hey, Joe said he. Joe said. Hey, Joe said he want the ball in the red zone. He said just put it.
Ocho
What that man gonna do?
Uncle Joe
Let me tell you. Hey, hey, if Joe is a db, his Stanford definitely burn. That's what it's gonna be. He definitely burnt. You get out there in front of me with that,
Joe
Joe. Joe said. Hey, Joe said the red zone say he. He moss, man. Come on, man.
Uncle Joe
Hey, he not even gonna get off the line. All I'm gonna do is I'm jump. I'm jump. I'm gonna jump. Jammy. He ain't gonna get.
Joe
Oh, you're free. You gonna free. You go quick and quick.
Uncle Joe
Him quick. Hey, grab him right up in between here. Right in between here. He gonna be. Hey, he holding. He holding. Nah, I got five yards to do this.
Joe
You got five yards.
Ocho
Chat. Y' all gonna get to see it. I promise you. Y' all gonna get to see it.
Joe
Trust me.
Uncle Joe
Hey, you've been saying. You've been saying that for 10 months, bro. I'm about. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I didn't stop.
Ocho
No, no, you ain't now you ain't.
Uncle Joe
And then now all of a sudden, now you hurt.
Ocho
Okay, here we go.
Uncle Joe
Okay, he ducking. Smoke. Huh? Oh, my knee. Hurry.
Joe
According to Dave McMenamin, Luka wants the Lakers to acquire an A list center to build a championship caliber team around him as soon as possible. According to those close source took from Luka, he wants it to be a championship team yesterday. Ever since the trade, they've always told us summer of 26. We'll show you in the summer of 26. So here we are. Summer of 26 is here. Joe, An A list. Hold on, hold on. Is not DeAndre.
Uncle Joe
Hey, excuse me before you go, Joe, All A list centers are on other teams because they are A listers. Yeah, they're not even available now.
Joe
I guess he's looking at Walker Kessler. Who? We don't know that situation. Jalen Duran. We don't know that situation. Are they gonna make a trade where they try to get Joel Embiid? I don't know. But like Ocho said, most of the aliens, the only ones that's not on the on the contract would be Kessler enduring.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I like, I like what you just said.
Joe
Like Embiid, but in beat. But Embiid is really not. He's not a mobile guy. Embiid is not a guy that's gonna pick and roll and get. He's not a law threat anymore. He's a ground descendant, guys. Everybody knows that. And that's not a knock on him. He's still a phenomenal player, but he's done lost all of his athletic, A lot of his athleticism, his quickness that gave him a decided advantage at his size is not there.
Ocho
Listen, granted, Lucas say he wants a he, he wants a real big man or you know, a list center. He already said he don't want to get rid of ar. He want AR to stay there. I mean, damn, what, what they supposed to do what they want to make.
Joe
But you know, Ocho Joe, that's a lot of time that's guys talking. Because when they do what I wanted, they did what they want to do. But I want to know what they're saying behind closed doors. Because the likelihood of you signing AR and signing a championship Kessler or bringing in Durant or getting on the Joel Embiid, that's not and top of your
Ocho
salary, that means that mean you, that mean you don't plan on having Brian back?
Joe
No. Braun? No. Marcus?
Ocho
Mark? No. Damn. Like, bro, you gonna need, you need, you gonna need those pieces. If you talking about contending for a title, let alone hell just playing in the Western Conference, bro, you know, I, I, I feel like the Lakers got to do what's best for the Lakers. Do they need a center? Yeah, they do. But who, who is that? I don't know. It's just hard for me to see Detroit letting big fella go. Yeah, it's hard for me seeing them Detroitly.
Uncle Joe
He finna get the super max. How the legging can't do that.
Ocho
You think they're gonna give him the supermax ojo the Pistons? Yeah, I don't know. I think they gonna they I, I think.
Joe
But Harris. But the thing, but the thing I, I go back to, Luca can say he need a championship level center all he wants to, right? Unless they can defend they not winning. Luca can't score enough points. And then he and Austin Reeves are liabilities in clutch situation. So unless you got a big lead, if it's a, a one to two point ball game, they gonna get whatever they want. Go back and look at the Lakers and watch them in close ball games. Who they picking? The. Who did they put in the pick and roll? Go back and look at okc. Austin Reeves was in the pick and roll. Go back and look at the regular season before he got hurt. Look who was in the pick and roll. You got to have defenders. And unless you build a team because Luca Lucas enough offensively, but unless you build him a team like Jalen Brunson where you got three Wink, three defenders,
Ocho
that mean you. That mean, hell, somebody gotta take a pay cut. If you want that. I mean, you're gonna need Luca. I know Luca came in, in, in, in the camp in the season last year, he had shedded some pounds. But you gonna need him to be able to be durable throughout the season.
Joe
That's the problem.
Ocho
You know. Hey, hey, listen. For me, I know he a hell of a first half player, especially at first quarter. He probably led the NBA in first quarter points. But when it comes down to stretch and closing games, man, you're gonna need that boy to be healthy. You're gonna need him to be healthy.
Joe
And the thing is, he doesn't. He's never gonna have a body that you look like. You look at him and say, oh yeah, he right. That ain't. That's not how the European bodies are.
Ocho
Right, right.
Joe
And man, I mean, maybe AK47, the only one off the top of my head, but you look at Jokic and Manu and him, those guys, they're not present.
Ocho
They ain't cut up like that.
Joe
No,
Ocho
no, the Lakers got some, they got some real decisions.
Joe
They got some decisions. And this, see, this is where you earn your money. Because when you got to make tough decisions because it's not guys that you drafted, you've got to put a team together and basically, okay, I got one big, I got really. I got one big central piece. Because I think all things being equal, the most important thing the Lakers is Luca. He's that big central piece. If it's a jigsaw, if it's 100 piece jigsaw puzzle, Luca is 50 of them.
Ocho
Facts.
Joe
With that being said, now, what are the other pieces that we build first that we add to Luca, that makes us Spurs, Thunder, Nuggets, Minnesota. That's what you got to deal with just in the west.
Ocho
And that's tough, boy, because the spurs, okc, they ain't going no damn well no time soon.
Joe
And they younger than you.
Ocho
Yeah, they gotta figure it out.
Joe
But we're gonna, we're gonna see. But I tell you what, they're gonna have to win a championship with Luc.
Ocho
Yeah, we got you.
Joe
Cause for as much as people have criticized LeBron, in eight years, guess who's won exactly one NBA title?
Ocho
LeBron.
Joe
Giannis.
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Guess who else is won in eight years won the title. Jokic. And everybody talking about how great. The same number as LeBron.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Now they won more MVPs, obviously. I think LeBron the year, the year after they won it. LeBron was on a great, a great stretch before Solomon Thomas. Remember Solomon Solomon Hill clip. He got the hot ankle sprain. He was never the same when he came back. But I just, I just don't know how you build the requisite pieces around when your central figure is Luca and he didn't take a pay cut. And I think the thing is everybody, general managers and owners are going to think everybody be like Jalen Brunson. And that ain't happening, right?
Ocho
No, because I don't, I don't got, I don't got AR taking no pay cut. I don't see Rui taking no damn pay cut.
Joe
Hell no.
Ocho
Mark is smart. Whatever the market is for him, I don't see him taking no damn pay cut.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Ocho
Guys ain't taking open.
Joe
He's like, I took a pay cut last couple the last year, which I don't blame him. So it's gonna be very very, it's very, gonna be very interesting to see how they put this thing together.
Ocho
It is, man.
Joe
McManaman also writes the Lakers are not expected to offer Brian anything close to the max contract. The Lakers could have around 50 million available before negotiating with Reeves, but that's without factoring in John James and fellow free agent Roy Hachimura. Joe, do you see LeBron taking a team friendly deal?
Ocho
I don't, fellas, I'm sorry, I don't see it. I know he, you know, building a nice house he got out there in la, but yeah, I don't see that man taking no pay cut. Because, you know, for him, you know, the, the longevity that he's had in this game and the way he takes care of it, takes care of his body and the way he enjoys playing the game, playing at a high level still at 41 years old. Hey, man, he understands. Look, if you ask Braun, he the goat. He the best. He the best. Ever do it. That man ain't taking no damn pay cut to where he the fifth, sixth highest paid player on the damn team. He ain't doing that.
Joe
Can I ask you a question, Joe? Where can he go and get a max contract at 42? Because I think a max contract is somewhere like three years, somewhere between 150 and 180. Where can he go and get that? Tell me the team that's going to offer him that.
Ocho
I don't know if a team gonna offer him that, but I think. Yeah, but I think if you talking about doing a one year deal, maybe even a two year deal with a player option, I think that's possible, Uncle Ocho. Three years is going to be tough.
Joe
Yeah, that's what I believe. I believe it's one of an option, right? But here's the thing. How much is the one and how much of the option?
Uncle Joe
Right? You know what I think and what you thinking? Correct me if I'm wrong, Uncle Joe, if LeBron understood the team he was going to as far as taking a pay cut, if he understood that it was actually a championship caliber team and he actually had a chance to win.
Joe
No, I still don't believe it.
Ocho
I don't think, I don't think if
Uncle Joe
I actually have a chance to win another, another. Another chip and, and add to my legacy that's already cemented and get another ring. I say, I would say there is
Joe
nothing LeBron can do. People of mine are made up. You've heard, how many people, Joe, have you heard say he can win five rings and he's still not going to be better than Jordan? He could score 50,000 points and he's still not going to be better than Jordan? So there's in some people's mind, there's nothing he can do to supplant what Jordan has done, right? Because they're going to say, well, yeah, you won five rings, but it took you 24 years. Jordan did it in 15, Kobe did it in 20. You see, the comparisons always be there. So me personally looking at the landscape and hearing people talk, I don't believe there's anything LeBron James can do that will change people's mind. If they got Jordan as their goat, ain't no moving them off that square. Joe. Me personally, Joe, you might have another opinion. Ocho, you might have another.
Ocho
I think you're right on that. Considering the fact that Jordan got there six times and won all six. He has an unblemished record in the finals, in the final. But if I'm braun, Brian wants that fifth title. He wants, he wants that fifth title. I I, I'm, I'm almost sure that. And he understands the legacy that he's gonna leave behind when he's done. Like we are, like we talk about now. Every point that he scores goes down in history, fellas. He's trying to, he's trying to put that record out your damn misery. Like, you ain't gonna come into the league thinking you finna even pass that. You know what I mean? I feel like he is one of those guys. So I think he thoroughly enjoys playing the game and I think he, he wants to continue to put this scoring title out of reach. And yes, I think he does wants to compete and win a fifth championship.
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Joe
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Uncle Joe
Having to do that, though, think about it now. Having to do that and compete for another championship. You can't go to another team and then take max dollars thinking you're going to be able to help that. That's not going to work. It's not going to work that way. Now, if you just want to go off into the sunset getting as much as you can based on what your true value value is, then, yes, okay, I'll stay with the Lakers.
Joe
I think for LeBron. LeBron looks at it. It's like my job to fix your salary cap and put a team together. You know what I bring. You know what I bring to the table? And I, I. Said this before. I. I like LeBron to. I like LeBron to the Spurs. Do you? Yeah.
Uncle Joe
He would have to take a pay cut.
Ocho
Well, I think that.
Joe
Well, I mean, only. The only person that's, that's really, really. That's, that's there for what you call them is. Is Wimby. You got to do something with wimby. Everybody else could wait another year.
Uncle Joe
And there's your. There's your fifth time.
Ocho
The only thing, the only thing about this. I don't like the Spurs, Uncle. I'm gonna tell you why. I think it slows the process of the growth and development of some of those young guys, like, Like Harper. Because I think as great as LeBron is, it's a learning curve to be able to play with him. You know what I mean? Like a lot of young guys. Hell, no.
Joe
Because he needs the ball. Yeah.
Ocho
Because he wants to distribute Playmate, which is, I think, is probably, probably his biggest attribute as far as playmaking.
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Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Date: June 19, 2026
This episode captures Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson’s signature raw, no-holds-barred banter as they react in real time to the day’s biggest NBA headlines and riff on life, clubbing, and the changing culture of sports. Their unique chemistry delivers a blend of locker room storytelling, deep sports knowledge, and social “real talk,” making for engaging and relatable nighttime sports commentary.
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Light-hearted, brash, bantering. The hosts combine locker room tall tales, earnest advice, and real sports insight—a mix that’s both playful and sharply opinionated, never shying from controversy or poking fun at themselves and each other.
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This episode is a perfect snapshot of Nightcap’s take on sports and modern culture—a mix of headline analysis, personal stories, and old-school-flavored trash talk that feels as entertaining as it does unfiltered. The Nightcap hosts offer both nostalgia and fresh perspective, making even hardcore NBA contract discussions engaging.