Nightcap Hour 2: Jaylen Brown COMMENTS on TRADE Rumors + George Kittle Says BEWARE of Brandon Aiyuk + Micah Parsons’ Brother LEAKS Injury UPDATE + Kyler Murray’s GROWING PAINS in Minnesota + Myles Garrett NOT LOVED by Browns + Sauce Gardner CLEARS UP ...

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 2: Giannis Trade Shakes NBA, NFL Updates, and More

Podcast Date: June 23, 2026 | Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Nightcap, Shannon and Ocho deliver instant reactions and unfiltered takes on a bombshell NBA trade—Giannis Antetokounmpo heading to the Miami Heat—while also breaking down rumors around Jaylen Brown, George Kittle calling attention to Brandon Aiyuk's market, injury talk from Micah Parsons’ camp, the latest on Kyler Murray’s Vikings transition, Myles Garrett’s locker-room reputation, and more. The show is packed with real talk, stats, personal anecdotes, and memorable debates, staying true to the hosts’ bold, irreverent style.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Jaylen Brown and the Giannis Trade Rumors

03:01–10:00

• Jaylen Brown’s Response:
  Brown addresses trade rumors on his Twitch, voicing frustration at being constantly mentioned as trade bait:

  “You’re turning me into a monster… All you do is play. I helped you win a championship. I’m Finals MVP…every time a trade scenario comes up, I’m the guy you’re gonna get rid of”
  —Chad Ochocinco (06:36)

• Should Boston Trade Brown for Giannis?

  • Ocho and Shannon question the logic:
    • Brown and Tatum fit the Celtics’ system, which is built to launch threes.
    • Giannis’s fit is debated: "Giannis is not a three-point shooter. Giannis is a downhill guy." — Chad Ochocinco (04:40)
    • Giannis’s durability is questioned with a breakdown of his missed games over four seasons.

      “The number keeps going higher and higher, huh?” —Co-host (08:47)

    • The Celtics’ risk of breaking up a championship duo, especially with Giannis’s injury trend and play style, seems too big.

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2. George Kittle’s Brandon Aiyuk Warning

10:00–14:00

• Kittle’s IG Live Shoutout:
  Kittle tells teams to "beware" of Aiyuk’s talent, noting his speed and work ethic.

  “He still got it…he was running over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime.” —Chad Ochocinco (10:55)

• Player Leverage and Team Relationships:

  • The hosts discuss Aiyuk’s contract disputes, the emotional side of getting paid and then being injured, and buyer’s remorse.
  • Ocho draws an analogy to relationships to explain team hesitancy post-contract and injury (13:26–14:44).

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3. Micah Parsons Injury News Leaked by Family

17:00–21:00

• Parsons’ brother reportedly spills that Micah could miss “half the season” with a torn ACL.

  “You got one job—be Micah Parson’s little brother…If the Packers want to release that information, that’s on them.” —Chad Ochocinco (17:55)

• Conversation about why family leaks create headaches for athletes and teams, with Shannon lamenting the pitfalls of insider family talk (19:05).

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4. Kyler Murray’s Adjustment in Minnesota

25:29–28:32

• The Athletic reports Murray’s “growing pains” in Kevin O’Connell’s complex offense.

  “He looked uncomfortable at times working his way through the lengthy verbiage…” —Chad Ochocinco (25:29)

• Hosts stress how hard it is for QBs to learn new systems quickly, dismiss the true existence of a QB competition, and argue that Murray was brought in to be the starter, not McCarthy (26:34).

  “Listen, they brought Kyler Murray in there to start because we know what J.J. McCarthy gave us…ain’t happening.” —Co-host (26:34)

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5. Falcons QB Decisions & Lamar Jackson “What Ifs”

28:21–33:53

• The Falcons’ choice to sign Kirk Cousins and draft Michael Penix Jr. is questioned.

  “You could have had Lamar Jackson! Sometimes you gotta put somebody under the gun.” —Chad Ochocinco (28:49)

• Discussion on how teams play it safe or “collude” to keep players’ values down, referencing the Lamar Jackson saga and missed opportunities.

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6. Miles Garrett & Team Chemistry in Cleveland

39:42–45:15

• Mary Kay Cabot reports Garrett “wasn’t a true unifier” in the Browns locker room.

  “Now all of a sudden…he’s not universally beloved? That’s not his job.” —Co-host (40:23)

• Shannon and Ocho defend Garrett: some stars lead by example, not friendship (41:48–42:45).

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7. Sauce Gardner’s Age & Quick News Hits

45:43–48:01

• Gardner corrects media on his age, confirming he’s 24 not 25.

  “How you miss a man’s birthday by a whole year?” —Chad Ochocinco (46:33)

• Short updates on player contracts, awards, and quick-fire football topics.

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8. NBA Breaking News: Giannis to Miami

63:24–64:14, 77:19–78:44

• Live Reaction:
  Bombshell:

  “The Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Portis to the Miami Heat. Tyler Herro, Kel’el Ware, Jaime Jaquez, three first round picks…one pick swap and a second round pick goes to Milwaukee.”
  —Chad Ochocinco (64:00, 77:27)

• Analysis:

  • Ocho revels in being right about the trade prediction.
  • Discussion on Miami’s new core, remaining needs (point guard), and Pat Riley’s management genius.
  • Instant speculation: Where does Jaylen Brown’s future now stand?
  • LeBron-to-Miami rumors resurface in jest (68:09).
  • The vibe: Big dominoes are falling—more moves on the horizon with the NBA Draft approaching.

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9. Q&A and Candid Reflections

52:02–56:00

• Listeners ask about legendary athletes and entertainers the hosts wish they’d met.
• Thoughtful, humorous remembrances and celebratory shout-outs to family and community.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Trade Drama:

  “If you don’t win a championship, people gonna say you effed it up.” —Chad Ochocinco (03:51)
  "He bringing the Greek Freak to South Beach. Taxes, weather—Giannis gonna love that!" —Chad Ochocinco (65:46)

• NFL Truths:

  “You ain’t got to be open to any and everybody. I got a job to do. With the way they was losing, I wouldn’t want to be friends with nobody either!” —Co-host (41:02)

• Ocho on Salary Negotiations:

  “I need hazard pay! Y’all made me play behind that man for several years.” (57:08)

• Life Lessons:

  “If you feel it—come on now! You ain’t got to be Cleo.” —Co-host (14:53) “Sometimes you just leave well enough alone. We appreciate the seven, eight, nine years you gave us…You definitely left your mark.” —Chad Ochocinco (44:27)

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Other Quick Hits and Timestamps

• Mitch Robinson to Bulls, NBA Draft hype (65:40)
• Messi praise and soccer love (58:13)
• Fan questions and shout-outs (52:02–56:00)
• CR7 vs. Messi goat debate (71:52)
• Coaching transitions: college to pro (72:40–74:36)

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Nightcap is a wild, insightful ride from NBA blockbusters to raw NFL takes, all through the candid and comic chemistry of Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco. The Giannis-to-Miami trade is dissected in real time, with Ocho vindicated and the hosts pondering the ripple effects around the league. Off the court and field, the duo entertain with life lessons, personal stories, and listener love, delivering exactly what fans expect: real talk, unfiltered sports debate, and pure entertainment.

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Transcript

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Jalen Brown said on on his Twitch stream today as a Celtics are active in trade negotiation for Giannis. To all the people that doubted me, that wanted me to do this or wanted me traded, you're turning me into a monster. A Yahoo writer reported or tweeted Damian Peters. It might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Celtics will regret trading Jaylen Brown. He's not better than Giannis, but he's more durable at this stage of their careers. He's coming off his best individual season of his career and he's already won a ring alongside Tatum. Breaking up a championship duo in this fashion is a huge, huge gamble.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And it absolutely is, because if you don't win a championship, I don't care. The numbers he put up, if you don't win a championship, people gonna say you, you effed it up.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. I, I, I, I don't think he's moving. I don't think he's moving. I, I'm not sure what issues, if there are any issues between JB and jt, but, but moving those two, you know, it just doesn't make any sense. And Giannis, completely different type of player. I'm not sure if it affects, you know, Jayson Tatum in any kind of way with the style of play, with, you know, but Giannis always happened to have the ball in his hands. I'm not sure if it affects things there and the way they play, but it just wouldn't make any sense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My concern though, Ojo, is that how you built your team, you built your team to launch threes. You look at the Celtics, that's what they do, they launch threes.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Would they change that for one person?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all is gonna have to get his touches. Giannis is not a three point shooter. Giannis is a downhill guy.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're gonna need a point guard. I like Peyton Pritchard, but I mean, you're saying you're telling me Peyton Pritchard can be your every, your, your starting point guard and give you play you 35 minutes a night, or is he better in a role?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We're about to find out. Are you going to be able to keep a white. Two guys that I know can play together because guess what? I've seen them play together for the last seven, eight years versus bringing the guy in. Yes, he's phenomenal. 30 and 14.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's his average the last four or five years. That's what Giannis has averaged, shooting 55, 56 from the floor. The problem is every year he's getting dinged.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

30 and 14, man. 30 and 14. You can have an injury or two, man, go ahead, because I know what I get when you're healthy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But guess what?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, hold on. You say you're only downhill, too? He got a nice little midi, too. Now, I didn't see him. You know he didn't work on that little video.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't consistent, Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You don't like it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope, it's not consistent.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I can't wait till Yanis get here, man. I can say, I told you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they. And they. And you see, Boston knows how to defend, and they build a wall. They just keep them out of the paint.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Paint.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I can. I live with him making three. You gonna make three? I don't believe you can make enough threes to beat me. I don't believe you can make enough midis to beat me. Yeah, I'm just not gonna let your ass get to the rim. But. And I'm sure JB will probably never admit it, but he get tired of hearing it, Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You think so?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm getting tired of hearing all you talking. All you talk about is, all I do is play. Oh, all I do is play. I helped you win a championship. I'm finals mvp, Eastern Conference. I'm Eastern Conference mvp. And all you do, in every scenario, when you feel you can improve the team, I'm the guy that you're going to get rid of to improve the team.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, JT's the golden goose on. He is nothing. You do.

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Even.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Even. The funny thing about it is your name is in rumors, and JT's coming off an Achilles tail. Yeah, even what you did last season. So that just. I mean, now, what are y' all talking about?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all just hadn't been hurt in four years. Did y' all just miss time this year? What did I miss? Give me. Give me the last four years of Yani's history.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

He was hurt this year, remember?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I know. But. But maybe. Maybe. Maybe my. Maybe my. Maybe my ig. Maybe my TV was messing up. Cause sometimes my cable go out, so. Giannis hadn't been hurt in the last four years. He played 36 games this year. We. What about the year before? He played 67, so he missed 15. What about 73 plays? Ms. 9. 63. So he missed 19. 9, 15, and 42. 46. Excuse me, 46. Okay. Now, how old is Giannis now? He's got to be like, he's 13 years, so he's got to be at least 31. 32. Okay, 31. Will it be 32? Okay, so he's 31. So he missed 19 games at 27. He missed nine games at 28. He missed 15 games at 29, and he missed 46 games at 30.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, number. Keep going higher and higher, huh? You know, you get a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's gonna get. Because he plays so damn hard. Yeah, he plays extremely, extremely hard. You're not going to complain about his effort?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He gonna be like, well, damn, son, I wish you play hard. You're never gonna complain about Giannis's effort.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But for me, just looking. Looking at JT's game, looking at Giannis's game, JT and JB fit better together. To me now, they could prove me wrong.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, I. I don't think they're gonna prove you wrong. I think. I think you said it right. That. I mean, you said it right. That's why he's going to be here. He's going to be better suited down here in Miami. It just doesn't make any sense for a team that you just said is constructed to do what, jack up threes yet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But when you've done that, how do you. How do you. Ocho, how do you, like recalibrating says, you know what? We're not going to jack up 40, 45 threes a night. We're going to take that down to mid-20s, maybe 30. The whole thing is the swing. Swing three.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Transition three. That's not Giannis's game. Hell, I'm not sure he's ever shot. Has giannis ever shot 35 from the three? Because the three is not definitely his game. Yeah. Oh, we got some football now. George Kittle issues a warning for any team interested in signing Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, last time I saw Ayuk was call it week six, seven or eight. I don't really know. I used to make it a habit of mine to go out early in the mornings before meetings to watch him train, because he always be out there early. And I watched him run over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime. So he still got it. Or at least that was a year, eight months ago. So I don't really know. But you guys have fun with That I guess you have fun with all that comes with it. Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He had another IG live something where he's posting gold. Yeah. Commander, Right. What, what are we supposed to do with this, Ocho?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I, I, I don't know. I, I don't know. I think, if anything, I doubt the commanders are talking to him right now. The 49ers still have his rights, so if anything, he's just throwing out hints on where he would like to go by saying, you know, come on, commanders. I mean, it's a tough situation is one that I understand how precious the game is. I understand how fast the game goes by. I understand also how fast the game will leave you behind.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And showing. And showing you that you were never bigger than the program. It's happened to some of the best. It happened to me. It happened Antonio Brown. It happened to Rainey Moss. It happened to Jerry Rice. It happens to all of us. So I, I think as these years go on and as these years pass by, I, I, I would hate for Brandon, I, you could look back and think about the time that he wasted playing the game when he had the leverage. Right now, you had the leverage. It feels good. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, it does right now, but it's going to come a time you

[Chad Ochocinco]

ain't gonna have the leverage, and you're gonna be gone.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, you, you're gonna be gone. So, so right now, I want him to maximize the opportunity that he has right now and take advantage of that. You know, he, a young bull can play. He know we can play. And I, I would love to see him on the team and healthy and contributing on someone's offense and doing what he does best, and that's run routes and, and give people hell defensively.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think the thing is, this goes back to, they didn't want to pay him. He ended up getting paid. He still harbors some of that. Y' all didn't think I was worth. Y' all didn't think I was worth the money that I was asking for. Reported the Steelers wanted to trade for him. They shot that down. 49ers dead. They end up eventually paying him. Maybe he's not happy with the money that he got. Oh, we always think we're worth more than what we get.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Anyway, he got it. He got, he got the, he got the money. He signed the contract. He was cool with that. Yeah. And then he gets injured.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. Tough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If I was already hesitant to give you a chunk of change, and then you get hurt within six, five months of Me giving you that chunk of change, Ocho, I'm going to feel some type of way. Yeah, you know what, Ocho? She's like, you know what, Ocho? If you don't marry me, I'm telling you what you need to marry me. You apprehensive. You're like, ah, yeah. I mean, I like you and I really appreciate, you know, but

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

it's always a big but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? You've been here, you know, when I ain't really have a whole lot. We done accomplished some stuff together. I' ma put a ring on it. You put the ring on it?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Then you get a call. Hey, Ojo, man. Oh, you still with old girl?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, now this way. This where your heart drop when you get that cold like that? Hey, the heart drop.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I saw her ducked off in the cut.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You already didn't want to give her the ring. Now you said. You know what? I knew damn well I shouldn't have gave her that damn ring.

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One.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

One thing eight fellas. This is a small example. I know it's even though a hypothetical coming from Unc, huh? Always trust your gut instincts.

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Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

If you feel it. If you feel it. Come on now. Yeah, yeah. You ain't got to be Cleo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And so I think. I think that's the thing is. And you know, some. But here's the thing, Ocho. If, you know, somebody wants to fire you.

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Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Guess what I'm not gonna do. Give you a reason to fire me.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know you want to take my money. I know you want to recoup some of this money. I'm gonna go there rehab every day. Every day I'm gonna go in there.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. Hey. Hey. Something happened internally. We just don't know what it is. There's no way that a player. You don't come for money. You wasn't rich. You got rich because of, obviously, the services that you provided. And they. They compensated you for your services, and you give the money back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Something we don't know happened. Players don't do that. You don't do that. It just. It never happens like he. He has to be. He was really fed up. I just don't know what it was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't gonna be that fed up. And, And, And. And. And like I said, that was. You know, he. He was still feeling some type of way, Ocho, that I had to wait this long to get my money. Maybe I didn't get what I thought. They end up giving him the money. He Gets hurt. Yeah. We should have trusted our gut. And now they got buyer's remorse. He don't. He didn't want to be there. I. I got to take this money. They're not going to trade me. They didn't trade me.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And as my grandpa said, boy, that's a match made in hell. And it is. And here we are. They're not. They got the upper hand. They boarded all the money. All the money that you supposed to get. Ocho. They bought it.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And you know, and listen and you got to. You. You also got to be careful because they're all band together. You know, they all band together, but they sure will and won't give you no job at all. Hey, come on now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They sure will, young man. Get it together, Brandon. Get it together. Michael Parsons is now expected to miss at least half the season. According to reports, Michael could miss significantly more time than many initially expected as he continued recovering from a torn ACL he suffered late in the season. For a Green Bay team that invested two first round picks and a record setting contract in the superstar pass Russia, the latest projection is far from ideal. Isn't that what his brother put out? Ojo.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What did I tell you about family members?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Always. Every time. Why they can't. Why they can't do this? Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know, man.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I don't. I don't know why they.

[Starbucks Tropical Butterfly Refresher Narrator]

Jeez.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got one job. Be Michael Parson's little brother or big brother. That's the only job you got, right?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's his only job. If the packers want to release that information.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Which they're not. You know, teams don't release any damn thing.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Never. Especially nothing like that. No,

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't. I. I'm sure you love your brother. Your brother loves you. But something should remain between you and your brother. The general public should not know this information.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If it comes to a. We know he. We had a good idea that he's probably going to start on the pub.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Coming off injury like that. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And we'll play it from everybody there. That's it. Char's the only job it to be your little brother.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't got no more. He got another job. My sister be my big sister. My mom be my mom. That's it. We don't need to tell you, man. I think the Broncos or I think the Ravens go do. Really?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Put on the jersey. Put the sharp jersey on and go to the game. I just. I just don't get this. And that's why? And that's why, Ojo. You know, I say, whether you want to believe it or not, anytime a family member speaks, the people. Where do you. Where do you think he got that information from? Ocho, Chad, Where y' all think he got. Where do you think Michael Parsons got that information from? That they're potentially. His brother would miss half the season. Where do y' all think he got the information from? That's why you don't talk. Anything you say. If Chauncey would have said something, right. Ocho told me, family, friends and loved ones, when they're close to and they speak, people are going to listen for the simple fact. That information that they're talking about, oh, they got that from Mocho. I. I just. I. I don't. I don't know the good that he thought that was gonna. That. How did. How does that help Michael's rehab? How does that help the Packers? Because at the end of the day, that's what it's. That's what it's about. Everything. My whole focus.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How do I help Sterling Sharp? How do I help the Packers? Keep my damn mouth shut.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Mm. Damn. My goddamn Michael, man, I wish he hadn't got hurt, but he was. Well, you know, he had 12 and a half sacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he. He was. He had just started to get. He was starting to. This is why they paid him.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What was that game? He had had like three or four sacks and he closed the game. This is why you paid Michael Parsons? Yo.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

When he chased the quarterback down. Yes, I forgot. I forgot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What game? Why you paid it. He was just starting to. To like, look like Micah. Starting to look like. Okay, okay, okay, okay. And I be damn praying for you, bro. Keep a. Keep your head up. Keep working hard. All you can do is rehab and come back stronger. According to the athletic Kyler Murray has had some growing pains learning the playbook and scheme in Minnesota. Everything here revolves around the quarterback and.

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[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

Hetty she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

She says he's a quote. But they do get along really well.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Give us examples.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

I know they do get along intellectually and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Goodbye.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

In Kevin O' Connell's system, the Vikings didn't dumb it down. The complexity for Murray. If anything, the team installed the full breadth of concepts and and play calls to challenge Murray. He looked uncomfortable at times working his way through the lengthy verbiage downfield roof distribution. But the Vikings believe that this will be the best long best in the long run. The competition with JJ McCarthy will continue in the training camp. Barring a major setback in terms of health or scheme understanding, the platform should exist for Murray to prove he deserves to be the starting job in this offense. With the loads of weapons, it's tough on a quarterback to learn a new system.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh yeah, absolutely. Seriously, all that damn verbiage. Completely different.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now you gotta learn the verbiage or maybe you may have to shift the line. Now you got the concept down the field. 1, 2, 3, check down.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You know, it take about a year or two for a quarterback to be extremely comfortable and know everything like the back of his hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And when he does that, what is he doing, Ocho? He taking all the reps. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. And I don't, I don't like the fact that they're still calling the quarterback competition. It's not a quarterback competition. They, they listen, they, they bought Kyler Murray in there to start because we know what J.J. mcCarthy gave us. We got a small sample size of it and the small sample size that we did get, it ain't happening. It's not gonna get us nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's why Kyler Murray is here.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Guess what? They ain't got no quarter. They ain't got brought no quarterback in in Denver. The challenge. Bo Nicks. They ain't bringing no quarterback in to challenge Jordan Love. They ain't bring no quarterback in the challenge. Caleb Wilson. They ain't bring no quarterback in to challenge the guy up in, in New England, Drake May. Yeah, Drake May. When they bring a quarterback in to challenge you. We saw that last year in Indy. And guess what? They brought the quarterback in the challenge and guess who, who got the job?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Ocho got. Yeah, when it came in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on and look, you on deck, you play baseball, right? You on deck. Hey, why do you think they brought two in?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You think two are gonna start over? Michael Pennant Jr.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They didn't bring him in to back up easy money. Because Ocho, I got to figure out this man Gonna, this is third year, this man gonna want 200 billion. This man want 250.

[Knix Leak Proof Underwear Advertiser]

330 already.

[Starbucks Tropical Butterfly Refresher Narrator]

Yes.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Golly, Chad, who gonna start tour or pinnocks chat what y' all think, Let

[Chad Ochocinco]

me pay the little $2 million to tour. I'd rather play $2 million to tour and say okay, tour you start as opposed to let Michael and I have to like oh man, we gotta pay this man 300 million and then get in the middle of it like oh man, this is a terrible mistake.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

So, so they did the Falcons basically right back at square one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I said that for a.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hold on a long term answer at that, at that position.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It didn't make sense to me. Sign First Cousins. It didn't make sense to me. You signed First Cousins, you gave him this money. He's coming off an Achilles injury. The now mind you, he was never mobile

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

and he was just less mobile with the injury.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, that being said, and you go guess what, you draft a quarterback that has an injury history and hell, he's already 24. How was Penny? He was laminated 2324 when he got drafted. It didn't make any sense. It didn't make sense to me then, it doesn't make sense to me now. But guess what, you're stuck. And just think Atlanta Falcon you could have put two first round picks on. So let me ask you a question. Tell me the two first round picks since Lamar Jackson was. Had those tags on him that you take over him, you could add Lamar Jackson. See the thing is sometimes you got to put somebody under the gun. Everybody talking about where they know they're not gonna, they're not gonna put no two first rounders, put them on and see if they match because they got a match or he's yours. So would you rather have Lamar Jackson right now finishing up that deal at $50 million a year or you rather be going flip flopping back with Michael Pennix Jr. Tour and had Kirk Cousins, Chad, which would you rather have? Lamar Jackson or you rather have Kirk Cousins, Michael Pennix Jr. Or Tour which would you have rather had?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, and that's a small example too, that I just mentioned about. About the good boys colluding against you. That situation with Lamar. Yeah. When. When he had opportunity with teams and anybody that really needed quarterback that came and got him. But everybody sat back and had the nerve to say, oh, no, we good. Especially Arthur Blank. Like, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But they had the mo. The memo. D. Smith, there was a memo floating around, right? Stand down.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But we gotta. We got. We gotta stay on the good side. We can't.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I, I can assure you, everybody in Atlanta, and I said it at the time, you get Michael Vick 3.0 with Lamar Jackson in that building on that turf, that fan base. Oh, my goodness. Can you chat. Can y' all imagine Lamar Jackson in that building on that turf with that fan base with y'?

[Knix Leak Proof Underwear Advertiser]

All?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, it'd be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you wouldn't even put two first round picks.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Two.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If Lamar Jackson is what. Lamar Jackson is, guess what those picks are gonna be in the twenties.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Damn. Just the thought of that. You get. You had Michael Vick and you get lamar Another experience. 2.0. That's what I would call it. Because that might. That Michael Vick, that Michael Vick era. What. It was an experience when you had to be there. It's like going. It's like going to the. It's like going to the fair. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen. Yeah, but it's gonna be exciting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that. Hey, who ha. And the fair get better every year. I can't. But I. I couldn't believe Atlanta didn't put that tag on him. I'm gonna put him under the gun. All they can do is match it. They can. All they could do is say, no, we gonna. We gonna put. We gonna pay him, right? Put two first. Hey, we gonna put it. Hey, we gotta offer 250, 265. I put a poison pill in it. I would. I put a poison pill in it, right? I'd have guaranteed the whole contract with a no trade. That's how you do. You put that poison pill when you don't want somebody to match it, right? I put that poison pill in there.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Damn. 265 with no trade clause

[Chad Ochocinco]

fully guaranteed with. Then Lamar would have got this opportunity to see how. Because see, he's like, hold on. All these other quarterbacks, ain't nobody, Ain't nobody had to go like I had to go right? Joe got his money. Herbert got his money. Lawrence got his money. Josh Allen got his money. Man, they don't gave my homeboy two contracts. And I understand that. I understand. So I'm gonna say, let you know what? As a matter of fact, don't even bring my homeboy up because he set to his side. Yeah. But guess what? Last I checked, Josh Allen ain't been in a Super Bowl. Neither has Trevor Lawrence, neither has Justin Herbert. So I'm just trying to figure out why I got to go through all this to get my money. That's how Lamar's. Look, I'm telling you how he's looking at it.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That he's gonna be the consummate pro. Hey, it's gonna get done when it gets done. I'm out here to do my job. I have an agent who happens to be his mom. Hey, they're gonna. The Ravens, and everything gonna take care of itself. Why are we. Wow. First of all, why are we having a conversation? We should be talking about this new offense, not whether or not if and when I'm gonna get a

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

no. He gonna get it before the season start. I could tell you that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hope so, Because you see the market now. My homeboy, 64 million. Lamar looking at that, say, I want 65.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You want one, you want to reset the market.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's how he's thinking. That's how his agent is thinking right now. 64 ain't gonna last forever.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you got Joe Burrow could do what Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow going back to the table next year. Yeah. Joe. Bro. Ho. Dak Prescott do what they think they're gonna do. Dak Prescott's going back to the table, right? Oh, ain't nobody sitting pat. Gonna be very interesting to see how this thing plays out. But me, personally, I kind of thought Kyler would kind of be more in the catbird seat right now. Ocho, I understand that. Look, it's OTAs. But. The question is, Given his history, huh? Does he understand how to study? Not to say he's not smart from a quarterback perspective.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right? Especially going to a new.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Imagine when the offense ain't built for you. You got to learn a totally. You got. Ocho just think, you got to go to a foreign land and you ain't got no interpreter.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You gotta start from scratch. Boy, that's difficult.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no, no. This. What is this called? That's the thing. That's the thing. It's people like. Cuz I didn't. Oh, yeah, we didn't Have. We didn't really have film study. We just had plays call out the players, we run. I didn't know how to study. I didn't know what. I'm like, okay, man, what am I. What am I looking at?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, I just see people running around and they throwing the ball. What. What. What's going on? So who am I supposed to watch? I'm supposed to watch the offense or the defense. I know. No, you watching the defense. Okay, he threw in the ball, he tackled him. What I'm supposed to look at? No, you're supposed to look at the coverage they're in. How do I know that? There ain't nobody say that. I don't got no sound on you. How the hell I'm supposed to know what coverage they in? They ain't tell me nothing. You have to learn all of that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It wasn't until Coach Reeves says, shannon, the front. A lot of times the front will tell you the coverage because they're going to play a certain coverage behind a certain front. So if you can understand the front, it'll give you a head start on the coverage. So they in an underfront or they're in an over front, or they're in a 3 4. Because when they're in the 3 4, they like to play these couple of coverages. Now you got to look at. Where are they on the field? Where are we on the field? They like to play this coverage from, say, the 20 to the 50. They like to play this coverage from the 50 to the 20. They like to play this coverage inside the 20. Going in. Okay, now you gotta look at. For what formation are you in? Are you in 21 personnel, two wide receivers, a tight end, two running backs. Are you in 12 personnel?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Art.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So once he. Once they broke it down like that, I'm like, okay, okay. Oh, you couldn't tell me that, don't you. Oh, yeah. I know what y' all in now. I know what y' all did.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, that's one. That's one of the greatest feelings in the world. Is it? Come out that huddle and see whether it's a 1 high safety or 2 high safety. And all that bluffing and all that coming down and acting like you coming, man, get on out of here, man. I already know what it is. Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I don't care. All that bouncing around, bro. Stop that. You ain't coming. All you doing is making yourself tired in Mile High. Back on up cause you finish. All you finna do is drop to the hook man. How you. Cause why would you come in that safety still way back there? You think that safety gonna just let me take off the ball and just turn around and he pop it to me? Absolutely not.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Not.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause if you was coming, he'd have been bringing his funky ass down. And since he didn't, as a matter of fact, y' all going to the other side because he about to go to the middle of the field. We having a whole conversation. Ocho, you not coming. How you know? Sharp, how you know? Well, first of all, you talking to me. That's one of the reason I know.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

that's one of the reasons I know you're not coming. Oh, Lord have mercy. I hate when they do this stuff.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Like there's some good days. What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Miles Garrett reportedly wasn't universally beloved figure that seemed to be within the organist Cleveland Browns organization. According to Mary Kay Cabot, Garrett wasn't a true unifier for the team relative to his own field impact. Garrett was reportedly respected and revered by, but wasn't necessarily universally beloved by everyone on the roster. Garrett was said to have stuck to a. To a tight inner circle when outside of the team facility. Cabot added third year linebacker Jared Verse, who was the centerpiece in the Los Angeles trade package for Garrett is expected to be more of a force multiplier than his predecessor.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, Lord, he not. Well, he. What is why they do that every time somebody goes somewhere?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know, Ocho. I don't.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Now all of a sudden he, you know, that's not his job. That's not. Let's start there. Let's start there. He's employed by the Cleveland Browns and he has a job to do. He did in job to the utmost of his ability.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Exemplary.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Now, if you make friends during that time, like you say, uncle. If you make friends during that time, you there. You know what? So be it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So be it.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

But you don't have to be open to any and everybody, man. I got a job to do, man. I mean, with the way they was losing, I wouldn't want to be friends with nobody either.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, y' all might. Y' all see me. I'm sorry. This might rub off on me. Stay far away from y' all as I can.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, but I mean, people gotta understand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't. I don't know. He striked me as a quiet guy.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. Stay tuned.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He. He just wants to go out, do his job, be great. And I mean, what. What I'm just trying to figure out like university beloved. So What. What did they want him to do? Have team meetings, bro. Miles. Y' all need 11 miles Garrett in order to win. So I'm just. Have a team meeting. Have the guys over at his house, right? Well, everybody is not like that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, everybody ain't like that.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Y'.

[Sleep Apnea PSA Narrator]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all keep expecting it. Because, you know, I think the thing is that I. That I. And I. I don't. And I say this tongue in cheek, is that everybody wants every defensive player to be Ray Lewis, and they're not going to be that. Ray chose that role. Ray wanted to be that. Everybody doesn't want to be that, and that's okay. I mean, I don't know if. LT had people over his house. I don't know if Reggie had people in his house. I don't know if. Straight time. I don't every. Everybody's not like that, and that's okay. Everybody doesn't want to have. Brain the team up before the game and. And break them down and get everybody good.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Rah, rah. Yeah.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Different.

[Sleep Apnea PSA Narrator]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Maybe. It seems to me, he seems to be one of those guys that led by example. I'm gonna go out here and play my ass. Y' all follow me?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

That's a good one. That's. And that's all you're supposed to do. You're not there to make no friends. You there to do a job. And he did. He is the best in the history of the game. One of the best in the history of the game at doing said job. All that friendly stuff is cool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And Ray was that guy that. He wanted to have guys over. Buffy would cook, they would watch. They would watch tape. He would call the guys over, they would watch film, and they watch a little tape after practice. But that's what he wanted to do. That's. That's him. Who he. That's in a nutshell. That's who Ray was.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If that's not who Miles Garrett is, you're forcing him. You're trying to get him to be something that he's not. I ain't got no. They could.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I could. They could have done without this.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just don't salt the man up. Everybody. I mean, look it. It's the same. Even when you're with a woman or the woman with a guy, what they say. They say all these horrible things. Oh, you ain't got. You ain't packing nothing. That would all. Why you got to say all these nasty things you weave together for four or five years.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You ain't say that Then you have

[Chad Ochocinco]

no problem when we was going on vacation. Not me. I'm just talking about in general. We ain't even going on vacation. But I'm just saying we going on vacation. I'm buying you nice bags. I'm doing X, Y, and Z. You never had a problem the moment. All of a sudden, we're not together now, and I'm with someone else now all of a sudden I'm terrible.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

They do it every time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I. I just. I. I don't.

[Starbucks Tropical Butterfly Refresher Narrator]

I don't get.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't get that. Some things. You know what, Ocho? Sometimes you just. You just leave well enough alone. You say, you know what, Miles? We appreciate the seven, eight, nine years that you gave us. You a phenomenal talent. Hey, you definitely left your mark in Cleveland. Hey, I don't know how. I mean, obviously, I think Jim Brown's number retired. 32. I think the double zero. Otto Graham's numbers retired. I don't know who else is retired. Yeah, I don't know if Bobby Mitchell's numbers retired. I don't even know what Bobby number was. But it's. I don't get this, man. That man's been great. Yeah. I mean, he liked to drive fast, but other than that, he had no problem. He had no damn problems on the field.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, no. I mean, this is. This is. This is pointless, too. Now. Now that he's going over, now all of a sudden, this come.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you want to salt the man up. Hold on. You know what? You didn't hear Ocho the whole while he was there, you never heard this. You heard about how great he was.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Now. Now all of a.

[Starbucks Tropical Butterfly Refresher Narrator]

Sudden,

[Chad Ochocinco]

Gardner says he's 24. Ocho, not 25, is rightly listed. During a recent back and forth with reporters about his leadership role as a veteran defender, he pointed out, I'm only 24. Somewhere along the way, it became accepted as fact that Sauce was born 8-31-20. 8-31-2000. It says as much of the number online references, including profiles on ESPN.com, pro Football Focus, and Yahoo Sports. But it turns out Sauce was actually born August 31, 2001. Like he said, he's 24. The coach website in NFL.com reflected the 2001 birthday. I'm trying to figure, Ocho, how you miss a man birthday by a whole year?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco]

A whole year? Hell, I mean, he's 24, 25. He's still young as hell.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What is this? This is fifth year. This gotta be like his fifth year already.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, golly, well, he had three with the Jet. Wait, no, he had four with the Jets.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Three? His four. This would be his fifth year right here, right? Yeah, he going into his fifth year.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Golly. Hey, time is going fast, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Cause remember, they traded him. They gave him that big contract at the beginning of the year and then they traded him.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So hey, he's. He. I think he's gonna have a bounce back season.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think he got to get those injuries behind him. Those, those lower injuries. Look, cornerback from waist down is everything For a corner, it's hard to do anything. You got pulled hamstring, quad, groin, calf. Man, you ain't for this.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

It ain't. Yeah, it ain't. It ain't gonna work. No, it ain't gonna work. Your low extremity got to be on point. Your eyes, your eyes are your mental. As in your mental outside of that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's time for our final saving the evening.

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[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from my favorite murder.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

Want the full story?

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

Take a listen, Hedy. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen from My Favorite Murder]

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator Right.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

TS Car Wash detail service panel with some athletes you wish you met. Who's no longer with us?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, that's a good one. Oh yeah, that's a good one

[Chad Ochocinco]

Walter Payton.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

That I'm no longer with us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh man. Because I'll be. I've been very, very fortunate because I used to Go to, I used to go to all the Super Bowls, Ocho, when I did a lot of work for the NFL, right. And I would always see the old guys. I would see Deacon Jones, Dick Buckers.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ray Nitsky, Marlon Olsen. You know, I would see all those guys, right. You know, I'm trying to think. I met obviously, Jim Brown. Hey, I, I, I, I would like Johnny Union. I mean, I mean, hey, Bart Star. I met them all. Go ahead.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

OO I, I, I was just gonna say I, I, I want to meet some of those legends from back in the days, you know, that, that, that are passed on, you know, like, shoot Walter Payton for one man, that's a legend. And that, that, that'd be so, that'd be so dope to me. Walter Payton, you know, just, just watching him on film and then being able to meet in person would be one of, one of the greatest feelings. I'm trying to think of quarterbacks. Johnny Unitis is a good one. I'm trying to think of somebody else. What's young bull? What's your what's young bull, man from the Kansas City Chiefs that was smoking on the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Lynn Dawson.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Mr. Dawson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He, he, yeah, he passed.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I would like, I would like me Mr. Dawson, man.

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And probably when it comes to older players that, that are going, it would probably be defensive players. They was hell back in the day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah, they knocked you and it was hell.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I can't think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they was, they were rough. Bad. They were rough back then,

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

man. That's a good question. Now, now you got my, they got

[Chad Ochocinco]

my brain going because I'm trying to think basketball. Probably like Moses Malone, Daryl Dawkins, because those are the guys. I kind of grew up watching them.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Right?

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, hey, I saw the highlights.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He would like that, Lenny.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Well, he would like that, Lindy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now if, like that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Now, if we talking not sports now. I'm, I'm good. I'm ready to go. You know, my number one will always be Sinatra. My number one will always be Frank Sinatra. Red Fox, Richard Pryor, Dean Martin, Don Rickles before he passed away. He funny, fun. Hey, funny man. Funny dude. Robin Harris. Oh, remember Rodney Dangerfield, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lucille Ball?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yep. Ms. Ball was legend. Lean, Lena Horn, Ethel Water. Hey, man, I, Man, I go. Man, I go for days with people that aren't here. Oh, man, you know, when it comes to music, but that's my thing there, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Me and my lady and daughter, we're going on vacation on your birthday. Guess what? We're going to Houston. Can I get a check? Can you shout them out for me? Ashley and Kennedy, they did the best. Father's Day. Love, Ashley, Kennedy. Shout you guys out here. You going to. Y' all going on vacation to Houston. I don't know what. What kind of vacation that is, but have fun.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you look. You got. You know, you got your wife, you got your baby girl there, so everything will be. Everything will be hunky dory. Oh, I'm gonna hit you up tomorrow. We can see what, you know. We can put a plan in motion.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, let me know. I'm. I'm going. I'm going regardless. I'm going regardless.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, what. Joe at.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe. Joe. Joe stuck at the airport.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, I mean. I mean, as far, you know, we get out there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But he definitely. He definitely. He probably. You know, he definitely got down. He been trying to.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

About me and. You scared?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, I'm good.

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I'm good. I'm ready to go.

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Long.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Long as I'm back on the morning of the 27th.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know who. Aiden. Who un Hates more. Aiden F. Or Harrison Barnes. Man, they left one. Y' all saw that, man, Y' all saw that right guard, y'.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

He ought to be shame on himself.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

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Last year he had some bad moments.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

He ought to be shaving himself.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

He had some bad moments last year. He might be better this year, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I doubt it. If I'm. If I. You know what? If I'm. If I'm Lamar Jackson, I' ma say I need hazard pay. Y' all made me play behind that man for several years. I need hazard paint. Hey, guys. My husband Vaughn, just lost his grandfather. Me mis today. I just wanted to shout him out. He was like a father figure to him. And it's a bit tough. V. I love you. Happy Father's Day, Von. I'm sorry to hear that, man. Grandfathers are tough, man, because a lot of times they. They. They take the place of fathers. And even though you might have a father, that's almost like they're. They're the father. And it's tough. And so I know your heart breaks. I know you're grieving right now, but you know what? I pray that you find strength and understanding in this. In this most troubled time. So the team at nightcap here, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and all your family. What's up, Nightcap? I studied abroad in Buenos Aires in 2012. I didn't watch soccer at all. I Watched Messi play and I was hooked. It's like watching Michelangelo paint the 16th Chapel.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, that boy. Special boy. And you know the funny thing?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't you want the same number? A Maradona don't eat. They ain't. Don't mess it. Wear 10 just like Maradona.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, any player that wears the 10 on any team is that boy. It's like when we play football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You're young and you wear a single digit. Oh, you that boy. Whoever don't. Whoever dons the 10, that's who the man is on that team. Wow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, I'm gonna take you. Hey, I guess I'm gonna have to get out there. I'm have to come down to what you call him and see him play

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

in Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And it man is special man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Did you see Scotland fan clip from Boston and now Miami. We know how to party also. Go. Conversation is over. Messi number one, Ronaldo one a free agent guard a yo Desomo intends to sign a five year 112 million dollar contract to return to Minnesota with a player option for the fifth year. Sources tell timber was made a major priority. Lock up desomo after his tremendous postseason. Yeah, Ocho. Yeah, it was been Boston, I think. Is it Scotland playing in Boston that didn't. Ran out of beer, I thought. Who played in Boston and then ran out of beer?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Well, I thought Scotland. I thought Scotland played in Houston. I thought it was even Houston.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was a Scotland. Or was it Scotland? They done ran out of beer. Ocho, you serious? They called him beer shortage.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yep.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, they drink all the people's stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. Golly Adams. Entire tap room.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, that's. Hey, you know what? That's good for business though.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Huh?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

They drain them people out of. They didn't drink all the people inventory.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, because you. Hey, I mean, hey, you know one thing. Scott's in the Irish. They're gonna drink some beer now.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And hey, it don't need to be St. Patty's Day for them or Oktoberfest. They gonna put it down, right? Well, I think the German is oktoberfest. But. But St. Patty's Day.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yo, Uncle Nocho. I got invited to fanatics fans games to compete for 1 million OJo give me advice. How to kick a field go. How to kick field goals and he sock and a soccer ball. And if I finish top three, can I come on the show? So you know, each year they have certain amount of people and they put them up there and they can win Tom Brady Didn't Tom Brady win something last year? So they have, like, common people. You try to kick a field goal, you try to throw a ball. I guess you try, right? I mean, I vaguely saw that. So.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, fanatics fest, man. We'll be there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, we'll be there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely. I'm looking forward to it. Ocho. I watched the France game, and that weather delay was so long. I don't know how a team can play and get loose after two hours. It's tough.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's tough to warm up.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

What, and then. And then try to get back up, sit for two hours, and then do it again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause it's hard after the super bowl because, you know, it's longer than a regular halftime mocho. You don't lay down. You don't. Took your pads off.

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You don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ate like two bananas and had some oranges, man. You like. Damn. All right, time to fire back up. Has anyone thought about LeBron with Ant Man?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And LeBron ain't going to Minnesota. Now, as a hypothetical, it looks good ant man and LeBron, but he's just not going to Minnesota. It's not happening.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't think. I don't think Brian want to do the cold anymore, to be honest with you. Nah, bro, he just been eight years. I mean, think about it. Eight years in la, four years in.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

In Miami.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, la. Hey, listen. La. La. Cold in the evening to creep up on you now, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

They creep up on you quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it does. But he said, you know what? I could. I can tolerate that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't cold all day long like it is in Cleveland. Like it is in. In Minnesota. Oh, he definitely do it in Minnesota. Cold. Oh, hell no.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Well, December, Minnesota is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who you. Are you picking Katie or Steph in the past eight years?

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Steph

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

over the. Over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Over kd. Yeah, Last eight years. Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh. Miami. Yanis traded to Miami for that. For that package.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I told. What? I told you. I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I gotta get BP back on here.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I can't wait till y' all say. I can't wait till y' all tell.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Ojo. We gotta get BP back on here. Giannis. So. Chad, did you hear that?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, I want y' all to say,

[Chad Ochocinco]

traded to the Miami Heat. Giannis and Bobby Porters goes to the Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hawkez. Three first round picks, a pick. Swap. And a second round pick goes to Milwaukee.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Hold on.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, so Bobby. Bobby came to Miami, too?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's why I said we gotta get BP back on here, man.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

I told. I told. Remember what Bobby said about when I told him Giannis was coming here?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

And little did he know, he was a part of it, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, block shove. The Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Porters to the Miami Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hawkez. I can't even pronounce this other guy's name, so I'm not Gonna Butcher it. Three first round picks, including number 13. One pick swap and a second rounder. Sources tell ESPN. Well, there you go. Somebody says Mitchell Robinson going to the Bulls. Also, they are going to draft Acuff, Trey Giddy. We should make the playoffs. This is why. This is this. We can buy what we want and compete fast. But you just. I. I guess. I mean, you just traded for Claxton.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, yeah, I'm still looking to see where that's at.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Giannis.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Sean's shots reported it 58 seconds ago. Y' all is gonna like that. That new deal. Hey, note the taxes, nice weather, he

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

gay, he get to meet me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. So now, okay, we got one big domino fall. Okay. Where does Ja go?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, didn't I tell you? I say Pat got one more thing up his sleeve.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't got nothing to offer. You would say trading.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Bam.

[Georgia from My Favorite Murder]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, but I just. It's still something up his sleeve. Now give. Give him time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow. Giannis is gone. Get the shiesty un. Somebody say jock to Orlando. Ocho can't believe Jalen Brown's Finals MVP got drafted before Tatum. Top three pick in 2016 get traded over blowing a 31 lead or over that podcast Cold World.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, I think the thing. Is it considering there's so much smoke, is it a situation, Ocho, where you almost damn near like, have to trade jb now, are you cool bringing him back? Because he already know how y' all feel about him. Because every time a trade scenario comes up with is his name.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Well, he's the only person of value to a value to talk about. Who else we gonna talk about trading? We ain't gonna talk about nobody else. But if. If I would. I mean, they're not gonna let him go. They understand how important he is. And obviously, even with JT being a year removed from that Achilles tear, him still having, you know, he was efficient, he was good during his time. You don't want him to have to leave that team again by himself. No, no, they not let. They not. They not letting him go nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you think he stays at least one more year?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, absolutely. At least one more. At least one more.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who said that that's what they want? I don't know. I don't see that. LeBron and Pat after that man done took his cookies.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, back. Oh, back. Back to. Back. Back to. Oh, I like that. Hey, I like that. I bet you LeBron back to Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I bet you do, huh?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

With Bobby. With Bobby P. And Giannis. Hold on, Let me text LeBron.

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

That man busy. He said he ain't fooling with you. I need to invite Rich Paul on here one night.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell them, boy. Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, who the point guard? I mean, who's the. I mean, yeah, Giannis and Bam. Okay, you got two guys that can protect the paint, right? But who's the point guard?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

LeBron.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So the question is, what y' all do? Y' all bringing back Norman Powell?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yes. Hey, Pat got some up his sleeve. I. I don't. I don't want to disclose any more information. You know, I've already done more than I should, and once again, I am right as I am 98 of the time. I'm just. I'm gonna just leave it at that. Mickey Harrison and Pat Riley have some up their sleeve, and we're gonna see if it works.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I stayed up late for this. What were those shoes you wore on DC's podcast? They look like chugs with a Nike stripe. They look crucial. They actually were choked with a Nike strike. They did a limited release of those. I gotta. I don't know what they call. Because they had a smiley face if you. I don't know if you could see, but they had a smiley face on the tongue. But, yeah, Nike. Because, you know, Nike own Converse.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they did. They did do a limited. A limited release with that, so. Man, you noticed, Man, y' all be noticing everything. I gotta make sure. I gotta make sure my kick collection's up to par. My kick collection, you know, I. I ain't got the kind of kick. I still got a nice little something. Our anniversary is Friday, 6 26. Do y' all think my Seahawks will repeat? Happy early anniversary. Happy anniversary. Man, it's tough. There's a reason why so few teams repeat.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is so hard to keep everybody together. It's so hard because you get everybody thinking they're responsible for why you won the first one and then try to do more and then injury. You got to keep your core you got to keep your core guys healthy. It's hard though, because, you know, look after you guys think you got better, but the Rams think they got better. Philly think they got better. The Cowboys think they got better. So the 49ers, they think they got better. So it's going to be very, very, it's, it's, it's tough. It is so tough to repeat because now you have a tougher, you have a tougher schedule. So we'll see. It's going to be very interesting to see how this thing shapes up. CR7 has that hard work and leadership. Always preach about him and Braun. Careers almost mirror each other. Taking the blame for everything while their teammates don't get any. CR7 is the goat, not Messi.

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, listen, it all, it all depends on, on who you like. Obviously I'm a CR7 fan first before anything. And this in Portugal won. I mean Portugal lost. I mean Portugal tied. Excuse me. And who got, who got to blame one person? Nobody on the team. Not the coaches.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, the great was. That's what happens.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. One, one, one person. You know, so I mean just I, I, hey, I, I really, I really, you know, for the, for the sake of my, my, I, I don't know. I need him. I need him something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You have, you might have to delete your ig. You have to delete your Twitter.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, just, just, just for, just, just, just until the, the tournament is over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Until the World cup over.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. They killing me, man. Oh my goodness, man, they killing me. I can't, I can't even fight back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

With Dusty May going to the NBA. Do you think more coaches, either in basketball or football will follow the way college sports is now? I mean, you don't get a whole lot of. And not a whole lot of coaches. I know Rick Patino did it. I know Calipari has done it. Coach Case shied away from it. Coach Smith want to know parts of it? Coach Knight? I mean, it's a totally different game because you're not dealing with kids that want to get to the NBA. You're dealing with grown ass men that's already in the NBA.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They already got families, a lot of them already married, got kids. And the way you can yell and scream at the guy in college, you can't do that to a grown man.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I think, excuse me, chat. I think that's the hardest, that's the hardest transition I think personally Ocho, that coaches have to make dealing with 18, 19 year old versus 25, 3035 year olds. That's a grown ass man. He will fight you. He will, he will fight you. So you know, get your ass over there. You hear me? You can't talk. You can't talk to no. No NFL player like that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

No, absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I, I think that's the thing. I hope he has success. Hey, he won a championship at Michigan. Brought him, if I'm not mistaken, the second one since 1989 when they had a Mills and Lloyd vault. Glenn Rice, Romel Robinson, they had a nice boy. They had a squad a. Glenn Rice was like that. Really, really like that.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

You can shoot, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. Lord Yanis press conference is going to be about how he never wanted to leave. Man, y'. All.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, that's. Hey, that's a good one. Whoever said that, that was a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. Miami is about to be lit. Go Heat. Go Panthers. The Celtics aggressively pursued Giannis, offering Milwaukee a package featuring 2024 Finals MVP Jalen Brown, two first round pick, sources tell. But the Bucks seriously negotiated, negotiated with the two finalists in recent weeks, Miami and Boston, which were both on Anthony Kumpo's list of preferred destinations.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Let's go Heat. We got one. Hey, listen, we got. We got to add one more piece of the puzzle, baby. One more piece of the puzzle. I'm truly hoping this comes into fruition so we can compete in the east, huh? I ain't talking about no play in. So we can compete in these. We need to be a seed, huh? Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I, I thought Milwaukee would want to get him out of the East, Ocho. You know, a lot of times, Ocho, when you in the NFL, they try to trade the players out the division.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Get up out of here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we definitely put you in the division, but we really tried to get you out of the hole whole conference. You AFC player. We try to put your ass in the nfc. You're an NFC player. We try to put your ass in the afc. Sometimes it's unavoidable. Yeah, as the mill as the Cowboys traded Michael the Green Bay, But if I'm not mistaken, didn't clean. Didn't Cleveland put a poison pill in there with Miles Garrett that they cannot trade him back to an nfc, AFC north team. I think they put a poison pill in there, Ocho.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

That's smart if they did because I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I know they did it. They did. Green Bay did it with Brett Favre, with the Giant, with the jets that he couldn't. They couldn't trade him.

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[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

They trade

[Chad Ochocinco]

so you put that poison pill in there. That 20, 29, third round pick. Oo automatically becomes a first round pick if they trade him to Baltimore, Cincinnati, or the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco]

put that poison pill in there. OO gets his wishes.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Wish honest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Antetokounmpo is headed to Miami.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

It was. It wasn't a wish of mine. It was just something that I knew was going to happen. I mean, everybody laughed at me. Oh, you don't know what you talking about. You don't know Pat Riley. You don't know Mickey Arison. I'm telling you, I'm in the rooms.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, Are the brothers coming?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Which. Which brothers?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Giannis's brothers.

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Oh. Oh, I. I don't know about that part yet. I don't know about that part. But, hey, I told you, you know, we got one more piece. One more piece of the puzzle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. I sure hope you're right, but I don't think they're done yet. I think more. I think more dominoes are going to fall here in the next couple of days. Oh, yeah, obviously, we got the draft tomorrow. Joe will be back with us for that tonight. Does Pat Riley take on the brothers or one of them?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

Eh, no. Pat Riley, old school. He ain't with that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't with that. Old school. He old school. Old school. Joe. Oh. Oh, Joe. Yeah, he really is Brett Riley all about. Can you help?

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Can you. Can you help me with a game?

[Co-host/Guest (Sports Analyst)]

That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They like, look, we gave you BP because it seemed like BP and Giannis got a great relationship.

[Tab Ramos (Soccer Analyst)]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. BP happy about that. But thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That is my partner and co host. That is Liberty City Zone. That's Bingo's ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you, Chat. Thank you for your support on nights like this and thank you, like, you supported us so many nights before. All of this is possible because of you. Yep, y', all, I'm gonna get upset and I'm gonna yell and scream, but guess what? I expect y' all to be back tomorrow so I can yell and scream again. That's. That's our relationship that we have. But I can't thank you guys enough because you guys, guys, you make it. You make it worthwhile. You make it fun and to get an opportunity to come in here and sit down with you guys four or five nights a week and talk two and a half hours about things that we love and I try to put together a format that you want to hear about. We cannot thank you enough. So thank you guys again for that. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportier cognac.com to purchase your bottle. If you if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you, it is a premium VSOP Cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it, try it and compare it against other cognacs and you too will see is the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. The big guns were out in full force today. Lionel Messi two goals. Mbappe two goals Holland two goals the big news tonight we had two trades in the NBA. The Minnesota Timberwolves traded Julius Randall to the Nets with the three team trade because Claxton ended up going to Chicago. But the big news of the night Giannis Giannis Antetokounmpo was traded. The Greek for freak or more commonly known as the sneak Freak was traded. He and Bobby Porters heads to Miami. In return, the Milwaukee Bucks get Tyler Hero, Kale ware, Jaime Hawkez Jr. They get another guy can't pronounce his name so I won't butcher it. Three first round picks including number 13, one pick swap and one second round pick according to Shams. His sources tell ESPN. So again thank you guys for joining us tonight. I'm up He's Ocho ISO will join us tomorrow night. Hopefully he's able to make it back to Atlanta safely. So we'll see you guys tomorrow night. Peace.

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