Nightcap Hour 3: SADDENED by sudden passing of NASCAR ICON Kyle Busch

Summary

Nightcap Hour 3: SADDENED by Sudden Passing of NASCAR Icon Kyle Busch

Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Guest: ISO Joe Johnson
Date: May 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this poignant episode, the Nightcap team reacts in real time to the shocking news of NASCAR legend Kyle Busch’s sudden passing at age 41. The hosts—Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and ISO Joe Johnson—weigh in on Busch’s legacy, his impact on sports, and the brevity of life as it’s underscored by this loss. The episode also dives into locker room dynamics, the latest NBA/NFL headlines, memorable rookie-year stories, and audience Q&As with their signature humor and chemistry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Remembering Kyle Busch (18:54–21:30)

• Breaking News: Unc shares the tragic announcement of Kyle Busch's death at 41 after a battle with illness. Just days earlier, Busch had posted a birthday message to his son. The news stuns the crew, who react with disbelief and sadness.
  • "Kyle Busch has tragically passed away at the age of 41 following a battle with a severe illness." —Unc (18:54)
  • “Damn.” —Chad Ochocinco (19:15)
• Legacy & Reflection: The group reflects on Busch’s reputation as NASCAR’s “villain,” highlighting past interviews and his unapologetic style.
  • “No matter what you do in life, you have to be the villain... the villain at times is glorified and hated by many, but it’s a great role to have.” —Kyle Busch (archival interview, 20:28)
  • “He knows the role.” —Chad Ochocinco (20:38)
• Message on Life: The hosts are moved by Busch’s recent comment to a reporter about racing as if every race could be his last, underscoring life’s uncertainty.
  • “You live each one like it’s your last. Boy, yesterday is over, and tomorrow isn’t promised.” —ISO Joe Johnson/Unc (21:01)
  • “Yesterday is history, tomorrow’s a mystery.” —Unc (21:10)

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2. Locker Room Dynamics & Viral NBA Moments (5:09–14:56)

• The “Late Giannis” Controversy: The guys analyze Bobby Portis’s viral comments about Miles Turner allegedly exposing teammates’ tardiness (notably Giannis) and discuss the sanctity of locker room secrets.
  • “The inner workings of a locker room... that is sacred." (08:07)
  • “Whatever goes on in that locker room... never make it out.” —Unc (08:17)
• Media’s Role and Sensationalism:
  • “For us to ask about it, now we bein’ messy—when every other platform would’ve asked the same question.” —Unc (06:26)
  • “They would have led with it. We didn’t lead with it.” —Unc (06:38)
• Trust Issues:
  • “You can’t even trust somebody like that, Ocho. Now we need to button the hatches down.” —Unc (07:42)
  • On leaks: “Everybody got those guys in the room that we know. Pillow-talkers.” —Unc (12:57)
• Locker Room Fun: Candid stories about teammates, the dangers of locker room gossip, and the separation between player’s partners.

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3. NBA Playoff Graphics: Lighter Moments (21:44–24:53)

• The hosts share laughs dissecting a highly detailed mock graphic of current NBA playoff stars and their inside jokes.
  • "Hey, they got your pants. They got the jacket, man. Look at your computer... you looking at them gadgets?” —Unc (21:50)
  • “This is wild, though. This is wild.” —Chad Ochocinco (22:58)
  • “That was grabbing y’all, did y’all thing on that one!” —Unc (24:19)
• Adds levity to the emotionally heavy episode, showing their camaraderie.

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4. Q&A Segment: Rookie Year Stories and Lessons (28:49–34:37)

• What Do You Remember About Your Rookie Year?
  • ISO Joe (NFL): Intimidated by the speed of the game, finding his way on an underdog team.
  • Chad Ochocinco (NBA): Soaking up knowledge from veterans, amazed to be living his dream, “could barely sleep, always looking forward to the next day.” (31:18)
  • Shannon Sharpe: Shifts from wide receiver to tight end; the challenge forced him to double down and master the playbook.
    • "I just got to do enough to stay on this team so I can come back." —Unc (34:06)

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5. On Sports Success and Public Perception (35:05–37:24)

• “Why Do People Hate Winning Teams?”
  • “Success brings enemies. Used to be people coming to the bandwagon, now they hating on the team.” —Unc (35:27)
  • The group cites the New England Patriots, Golden State Warriors, and recent playoff runs as examples of fandom turning to resentment after repeated wins.
  • “After about three championships, people got tired of the Warriors.” —Chad Ochocinco (36:54)

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6. Advice, Social Issues & Life Lessons (38:34–61:48)

• On Building Wealth:
  • “Live below your means, way below... A hundred thousand is not a hundred thousand anymore.” —Unc (38:45)
• Kids Growing Up in Hard Places:
  • ISO Joe: Importance of giving back to Little Rock, showing youth success is possible (42:11–43:39)
  • Unc: “Sometimes, unless you see it, you don’t believe it’s possible.” (44:22)
• Avoiding Burnout:
  • “If you get rest and go and get that work in, you’ll be tired by 9 PM.” —Chad (48:31)
  • All agree—constant work, little rest, but passion made it worth it.
• NAACP’s Advice on Athletic Commitments in the South:
  • The hosts discuss NAACP’s warning for Black athletes to avoid state schools in the South due to political/gerrymandering issues, weighing both sides (56:42–59:28).

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7. NFL & NBA News: Hot Takes (41:02–53:33)

• Tyreke Evans vs. OJ Mayo: Discussion of promising careers cut short.
• Knicks/Spurs/OKC Playoff Matchups: “Don’t nobody really match up with them because don’t nobody match up with Wimby.” —Unc (42:06)
• Player Conduct—Rashee Rice’s Troubles:
  • “Don’t mess this up, bro. There’s so much money to be made...for weed." —Unc (52:05)
  • The team is candid about consequences of poor decisions by young athletes.

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8. Listeners’ Questions: Humor and Honesty (54:57–65:18)

• Catfishing:
  • Caller shares an awkward date story; hosts joke about “taking one for the team.”
• On Historic Defenses:
  • “I would’ve gave them boys that business. And they was playing man-to-man, in your face, too.” —ISO Joe (63:31)
• NBA Playoff Stats: Knicks’ stars highlighted by Unc with impressive numbers as they close out the episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mortality: “Yesterday is history, tomorrow’s a mystery.” —Unc (21:10)
• On Locker Room Trust:
  • “That is sacred. Whatever goes on in that locker room... never makes it out.” —Unc (08:17)
• On Success:
  • “Success brings enemies...especially when you keep on. You win two or three, then people think you did something sinister.” —Unc (35:36)
• On Early Careers:
  • “Living out a real childhood dream. I could barely sleep, always looking forward to the next day.” —ISO Joe (31:18)
• On Social Change:
  • “Sometimes, unless you see it, you don’t believe it’s possible.” —Unc (44:22)
• On Professional Lessons:
  • “I just gotta do enough to stay on this team so they can let me come back.” —Unc (34:06)

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Important Timestamps

• Kyle Busch Passing Reaction: 18:54–21:30
• Locker Room Controversy (Giannis/Miles Turner): 5:09–14:56
• NBA Graphic Laughter: 21:44–24:53
• Q&A—Rookie Year Memories: 28:49–34:37
• On Being “Hated” for Success: 35:05–37:24
• Advice for Young Athletes/Families: 38:34–44:22
• Burnout and Offseason Training: 47:08–49:42
• Listeners’ Humorous Questions: 54:57–56:42

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode moves seamlessly from serious, heartfelt reactions to the loss of a sports icon to the light-hearted banter and life advice Nightcap fans have come to love. Through tributes and personal stories, Sharpe, Ochocinco, and ISO Joe reflect on mortality, the world of pro sports, accountability, and what it means to reach for greatness—reminding listeners to cherish every moment and opportunity.

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For fans or newcomers, this episode delivers a balance of sports insight, authentic storytelling, and a moving tribute to Kyle Busch’s legacy.

Transcript

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Where you at?

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I'm saying I'm. I'm in Miami 24 7. I'm saying, where you at?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Anywhere I need to be.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I can be in Miami tomorrow.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You want me to come home? But tomorrow I can look up flights. I can look up flights.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I'm saying?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Whatever. It.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I, I, I fly you in.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You. Well, spirit gone now, but. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Yeah, I appreciate that. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? You know, I like doing? I like doing things in threes, right? So, Joe, you finna get his work? Bp, you finna get his work? And. And tell Giannis, get his swole ass down here, he can get it too.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Miami.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What'd you say? I mean, Yan is down here already, so. I mean, me and him, we can go at it, too. Y' all just let me know. I pull up, man. Yeah, you scared?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, you never know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'll pull up, man. I pull up.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Let me know, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I come tomorrow. For real.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

But now. But for real, though, tomorrow I'm going to San Antonio, go watch the alien, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. I'm gonna be there. Like I said, bro. Okay. I got my shoes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, right here with me.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Everywhere I go. My shoes in my bag, my basketball in my bag.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, I got your number.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm get your number now so you

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

can hear me anytime.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, I just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just make sure I'm around Wi Fi.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Appreciate that, BP Man. Appreciate that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Bobby, that was unbelievable. That was great. Appreciate him taking time out of his busy schedule and coming on and joining us. I appreciate that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Good. Hey, hey, hey. Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Good dude, too, bro. Hey, y' all know he from Little Rock, too.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that. We know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Bobby, good people, man. Good people. Hard working, brother, man. Hey, hey.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I saw the way you were skinning and grinning once you found out he was gonna be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. I said, damn. BP on here. Yeah, yeah. BP Good dude, bro. Good dude.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Chad, I. I don't. I don't really know. I. I think so. I. I just want to know. Joe, let me Ask you a question, Ocho. If Bobby Porters went on any other, any other platform do is it. Do you think they ask him about what Miles Turner said? Yes.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yes.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So how would we be in messy. If he go. Let's just say for the sake of argument, he goes on espn. Do you think Ernie, Shaq, Chuck or Kenny would ask him about what Miles Turner.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. Yes.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Okay. He said it didn't like that he said so. So what would the follow up be is Miles Turner's lying. So he lied. So when he said when Miles Turner said. When Brianna Stewart asked him who's some of the most repeat offenders. I I paraphrase it and he said Giannis. He could have been cool if he said we got a bunch of guys late. I don't want to name no names. They know who they are. They know the ones that are late for the team play, the team travel. They know the ones that show up late for film study or don't show up at all. They know the ones that show up late for treatment or wait, he would have been fine. No one ever would have suspected it would have been Giannis because as Joe say, this man is a two time league mvp. He's a defensive player of the year. He's a finals mvp. That was the. They would have thought a lot of other people, I guarantee you not one person would have put attach Giannis name to that statement.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So for us to ask what about it now we being messy when every other, every other platform he would have been on would have asked the very same question.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, we. Hey. Exactly. They would have led with it. We didn't leave with it. We went through a whole hour before we even broached that subject.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, because it went viral too. Like everybody want to know.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

But oh, oh, you y'. All, oh, you be a mess. How I all I'm saying, I say so did he lie? So now I'm saying, are you guys gonna have a meeting? You go back into that locker room, I think of something of this magnitude, you have to have a meeting. It was the same thing when we had that situation in 97 with the Romo. We had to have a meeting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You can't just turn no blind out of that

[Chad Ochocinco]

because. Hey, hey. I'm gonna tell you, these teams don't want you giving up no. That type of information. Whether it's true or not. Whether it's true or not.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You know what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Y' all not understanding what this man did.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Man, I don't Understand?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Something that goes. Hold on. Something that goes on. Like you talking about having a meeting. There's nothing to meet about. He probably won't even be part of the goddamn team.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

True. But even now I gotta have a meeting. You can't even trust somebody like that, Ocho. But. But that now. Because that's got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now we need.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Now we need to button the hatches down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And we need to let everybody else know. But you know what, Chat? I respect you guys and I appreciate the support, but you're not looking at. See you just looking at it from a fan outside. We're talking about the inner workings of a locker room.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

That is sacred. Whatever goes on in that locker room. There are a lot of things that go on in a locker room that are fights and disagreements and so forth and so on that never make it out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And they shouldn't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not supposed to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

But I. We didn't lead with. Hey, before we talk about the game, let's talk about what Miles Turner said. We went a whole hour and I think we worded it as respectful as we possibly could.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. Any honest teammates. They. That's. They gonna get that. They gonna get that question.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Even if they. Even if he not there next year, they're gonna get that question.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And guess what? I guarantee you the next time Doc Rivers doesn't interview, no matter the platform, he gonna get it, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. Yep. That's just the way it works.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

That's why you have to be careful, because now you put. You put guys that didn't tell the situation. It's the same. Hold up. Somebody said something very similar. That the plane be waiting for Kawhi.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

When Doc was in the Clippers, they said the same thing. Guess what? It's. Guess what the guy's gonna get that was in the locker room with Giannis that are still there next year. Ocho. What? They gonna get asked

[ISO Joe Johnson]

same thing. You know, they're gonna break, gonna brush it off. They gonna brush it off. They're gonna do the same thing BP did. Same thing. Ain't nobody else gonna fall in the trap, especially those that are. That a little bit more savage.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

He didn't fall into the trap.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yo.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

He just blurted it out. It. I can see if she said, I heard it was Giannis, then he could.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm saying people that are at. People in the locker room that are ass. They're not going to fall into the trap.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They're going to be a little bit more savvy with their answers.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, yeah. Well, he done bought Miles. Done boxed him in. They got no choice. Yeah, he boxed him in. They got it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

No, Giannis was on time. And like I said. I said, damn, the man just lied.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He just.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Of all the things. Of all the things he could have said, Right? And Joe said, his history. Doc, history is to be very player friendly. Coming from the background. He was a player.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And Doc likes coaching veteran players. You go look at his team in Boston, that was a veteran team. You look at his team, and where did he go next? You look at his team in the Clippers, that was a veteran team. You look at his team in Philly, that was a veteran team. You look at his team in Milwaukee, that was a veteran team. So this is the normal. This is standard operating procedure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

S, O, P. So. So this is what he does. I was shocked because I. I sent it to Ash. I was like. Did this dude really, just really say that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I couldn't believe it. BP said he thought it was AI. I just like. I couldn't believe. I was like. And he said.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, he.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I said, bro. And the thing was, they posted it. They knew what. What this was going to do. Then after it goes ky. It got picked up by everybody, they

[Chad Ochocinco]

take it down too late, damage done. And as Miles Turner, this was his first year in year.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You got to be a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's why.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You know what? That's something you come out with in a book. Yeah. You write that in the book. Years later. Ooh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Why you still in the locker room? Oh, hell, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I'm like you, hey, the boy gonna be looking at him sideways. He come back up in there.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Absolutely. You talk about somebody. Oh, Joe, you spent 11 years in the locker room. I spent 14. Joe, you spent what, 16, 17. Yeah, 17. We know who talk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And soon as guy come. Hey, man, what y' all talking about? Everybody get them dispersed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah. Y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hell, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, hey. When you. When you come around and everybody get quiet, you already know.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, that. Hey. That's what I pick up my playbook.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You're talking. All you do is go back. Go back and talk. Pillow talk. Pillow talk. Everybody. Everybody got those guys in the room that we know. Pillow talk. And guess what they get. They talk to their wives, their girlfriend, and they get on the phone and talk, and they keep a whole bunch of bull jobs going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. Yep. Hey, hey. I'm gonna tell y', all, that's what

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

everybody got them in. Everybody locker room. So I. I ain't breaking news.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. That's the one thing I. I don't want to say. I didn't allow. But, you know, whoever I was with at the time, meaning my partner, my lady, I would always tell her, man, no, do not get involved in nobody wives. Y' all don't need to be hanging out, because I'm gonna tell y' all why I'm gonna tell. I've seen this happen. You know, the wives get together and let's say all us on the same team, we all married. But hell, Unc wife calling Ocho wife to see what uncut. But hell, Unc probably off doing something. He probably. You know, he probably trying to be low. Ocho at the crib now all this pressure on his ass, like I thought y' all was supposed to be. Hold on, hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't get me mixed up in this mess. Nah, I ain't never played that.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And sometimes the wives band together and get against the girlfriends.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You ain't no wife.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. You have a girlfriend.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

He just had a different one last. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You ain't going nowhere with them. Hey, you can do the food drive. Hey, put the jersey on, pass out some. Take some cans.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Go down to Goodwill or someplace. Salvation Army. And bring some clothes in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You think you about to be hanging out?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Not on my watch.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Absolutely not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. We didn't landed at 2 in the morning. Well, has Shannon. Has Shannon made it home yet? Cause I ain't seen. They normally be home by now. Ojo in the bed damn near sleep.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, I don't know. I don't know nothing. I don't know what's going on.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Don't call me my homeboy. Why say I'll never call Shannon? Cause I already know he gonna lie. You damn right. Don't call me. Don't call me. Cause you know why? I knew him first. I know him through you. Yeah, I know you through him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You don't get involved. Because guess what? This is what I found out, and it happened to me. You get involved, they. They all add each other. They get back together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Now what, Ocho? Now what, Joe? Where am I

[ISO Joe Johnson]

looking?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Crazy. Yeah, she mad at me. You ain't got to protect him. I ain't protecting nothing. I'm protecting myself. Y' all leave me out of this. I'mma call the police next time. You call me, I'mma say I'mma call the police on you. Thanks. And now Superhuman Shaq I keep telling

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Kyle Busch has tragically passed away at the age of 41 following a battle with a severe illness. Bush, a two time NASCAR Cup Series champion who was rushed to the hospital earlier in the day. According to his family, it was just three days ago on May 18 that Bush was tweeting a birthday message to his son Braxton, who was starting a racing journey of his own.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Kyle Busch dead at the age of 41.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Crazy life. Life is crazy, man. He just got asked a question. I think he won a race maybe two or three days ago and he just. And the lady asked a question and his answer was I, I somewhere the context. Like I, I raced the way I did because you never know when it's your last one.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Exactly.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

It.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

That's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Like that's. That's crazy, bro.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You don't know, man. You don't know. And you saw, he's on the radio. He had the doctor, I think a couple of weeks later he had the doctor come. He wanted to see the doctor immediately after the race. You know, he had a severe illness. All they're saying is that he's gonna miss this upcoming race. And then boom. Moments a few hours later, this news.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So our thoughts and prayers go out to Kyle Busch and his family. All those impacted the NASCAR family, the number 18 Eminem car.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, one of my favorite drivers simply because he was the village.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

We have a video of you interviewing Kyle Busch a few years ago. Let's play this for the chat.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No matter what you do in life, you have to be the villain. It's okay to be the villain. The villain at times is glorified and hated by many, but it's a great role to have.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

He's speaking from experience right there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He knows the role.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that I do. That's why I love you. And the way you carry yourself, your aura, your energy, your you, excuse me, type mentality when it comes to racing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Mm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Guy. Old Kyle.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Never know how long you got, boy.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

No, hey, you don't

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you live each One like it should last, Boy, yesterday

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

is over and tomorrow isn't Promised.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Two days. You shouldn't worry about yesterday and tomorrow, because guess what? You can't do anything about either one of them. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow's a mystery.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. Wow.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So sad. So, so sad. Switching gears, Joe, did you see the graphic today? This was the best one ever. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. This. This one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you see? Hey, you see? Hey, you know why it's the best one ever. Look at my pants.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, they got your pants. They got the jacket, man. Look at your computer. OO Pull up your computer.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that? What's that on my computer, man?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, you, Adam and Eve. You looking at them gadgets?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Here you go, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, Andy, got. Look at your reminder. You got the 420. You got the reminder. O8. You got to see OO in the parking lot at 5. You got the BTA 1, 4, 8, 9.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, yo, pass it out. DeAndre ate the CDL license. He got approved.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, this was hard. This was hard. This is hard. Hey.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, hey, Joe. He ain't even see that anaconda sneaking up with his head over the desk. Oh, Jo ain't see the anaconda.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Let me. Let me look. Let me look at this real quick.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. I ain't see that.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, you about to see it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. I'm looking there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This is wild, though. This is wild.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay. Hey, I see it now. I see it now. I see it sitting right there by my crown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I look.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

How you miss the anaconda, Ocho?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I. I ain't. I ain't. Zoom in. You know, I gotta open it up.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, you see me? I got how to write an email. Hey, they got Lakers in five more years. They got gp. We got. We got bread in that thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Look at. We got. Look at Jayla Durham.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I see Jayla Durham with the missing.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Missing. You're found. Please keep it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, y', all. You got embiid. Embiid wrapped up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all went off on this one, boy. Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, hey, look at. Look at Tobias Harris reading Kobe book.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This is really good.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, you see Dylan Brooks peeping out the roof, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I see people. Hey, hey, what GP over there showing Jaylen? Yeah, I see Dylan. What GP over there showing all L's? This was too funny. This is too funny.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, that was the best one. Hey, hey, hey, hey, graphic, y'. All did y' all thing on that one?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, this was a good one. This was a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, is that. Is that Gary? That's Gary.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Got the police uniform.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right. Yeah, that's Jalen Bray. Jalen Brown sitting there.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, they got Thompson got off got Reading Office for Dummies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, they. Hey, this one here went out.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, this is the best one. This is the best one. That was grabbing y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Did y' all think on this one?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Chad, what y' all think? Is this the best one?

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[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

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[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

terms apply all right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the Super Chat, we got two video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Still what up Nightcap fam Unc Ocho and still King ISO. I got a question for all three of y'. All. The question is without most remember your rookie season? And the second question of unk do you still think Rabie can is ugly and would you still not help him in a snowstorm?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Ojo, what do you remember from your rookie season?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean what I most remember my rookie season was, I mean the speed of the game. The NFL was completely different. Obviously I bounced around from school to school so I never played at the highest level when it come to D1 football. So the transition and playing at Oregon State for, you know, for damn near four months, not even a whole year. I was there for four months, went into the draft, got to the NFL and I get there really not understanding or knowing what it was going to be like. And again, the speed of the game was, was my goodness, it was fast. So I did my best to learn from, you know, Peter Work at that time. Danny Farmer was there, Ron Dugan was there. For those who remember, Danny Farmer from ucla, Ron Dugan, Peter Ward from from Florida State and Darnay Scott was the main man. Achilles Smith was a quarterback at the time. Corey Dillon Was there Big Willie just. Just. Just watching him and trying to understand what it was like to be a professional, you know, early. Early in my career. And it was kind of hard because at that time, the Bengals were. I mean, they were the laughing stock of the NFL. It was a laughing stock of the NFL. So, I mean, I had to find my way. And that. That was. That was, you know, the gist of my. You know, my. My rookie season, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My rookie year, bro. Just. Just trying to show that I belong, you know what I mean? Like, I remember playing with. I'm talking about just before the season start. You know, we get there probably a month early, before training camp. And we used to play pickup and work out. And I'm with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, Walter McCarty, Eric Williams, Tony Bati. Like, we had Kenny Anderson, the point guard. Like, we had a real veteran team. And I remember, bro, just trying to soak up all the knowledge that I could, Uncle Ocho, because the one thing I understood, I said, damn, I ain't. They ain't gonna really need me to score, but damn, I want coach to be able to have to play me. I want to play. You know what I mean? And I remember. I remember it so vividly, bro. Just trying to figure out a way how I could get on the court. And I always tell cats, before any of this ISO stuff that y' all hear about, bro, these are just moments that have happened throughout the game. But, bro, defensively, I was trying to be a damn menace. It didn't matter who they needed me to guard. I was going, look, it would be times I get three shots, it'd be time I get 12 shots. Hell, I never kn. You know what I mean? But the fact that I was playing in the NBA, living out a real childhood dream, I was in awe. My whole rookie year, I'm telling y', all, I could barely sleep, bro. I could barely sleep because I was always looking forward to the next day, the next practice. Hell, I felt in the late, early 2000s, you know, the game was so different. You had so many superstars, you know, playing against T. Mac, Vince Carter, MJ coming back, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, all these dudes in the Eastern Conference, bro, Like every day, huh? AI. AI. All these dudes in the Eastern Conference. So every night we had a premier matchup. You know, Paul Pierce matched up against whoever. And I remember I had to guard all these dudes the first three quarters, and he would take them in the fourth quarter. Man, I used to enjoy that, bro. I had so much fun. My Rookie year. I know it's short lived in Boston for six months and then I got traded to Phoenix. But, man, my rookie year was such a blur, man. I'm telling y', all, I could barely

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

sleep, bro, it was the same, man. I was just, you know, coming from Savannah State, didn't have, you know, we didn't have the complex offense. Our offense was very simplistic. It worked for us. You know, we didn't have, you know, a tight end coach, a wide receiver coach, a running back coach, all that, you know, old line coach, an offensive coordinator, all that other stuff. But, you know, hey, I just. Just plugged away and learned what I could. What really threw me for a loop is that when they moved me to tight end because I had just really felt comfortable learning the plays as a wide receiver.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Now I go back and I gotta learn. I was like, man, Lord, have mercy. I said, man, Lord, starting to question myself and say, man, am I, Am I, Do I have a learning disability? Because why can't I get this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And I just remember my brother's like, bro, just remember. Like, you remember everything else. He like, bro, you remember everything from my childhood. From the time you was five. And it just, like I said, man, I'll just go home, get my playbook and just like, just remember, okay, this, got this, this, this, this, this, this. Because it didn't make sense. Yeah. 1, 3, 5 was to the right. 1, 3, 5, 7 is to the right. 2, 4, 6, 8 to the left. In what playbook in who learned that? Odd numbers to the right, even numbers to the left. The tight end is the X. That is what a tight end is, Ocho. Tight end has always been Y. So now you got the wing with which is the Z? Receiver. The Y is, Is the X. Receiver. Wing, three, Y. Dig? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You see how you looking? X was the tight end, whatever. But I got through it. I was like, man, I just want. I say bye. I just got to do enough to stay on this team so they can come, so I can come back. Got in the playbook in the off season, knew everything. Knew everything I was supposed to learn. Still knew my slot because I was still, you know, they would put me out to the slot. And to answer your question, no, I ain't picking Ray ass up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Here's the second. Here's the second one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up, Ocho? ISO Nightcap family. Don't mind the ski mask, man. I'm on my way to get deandre A and chain.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I got you. I Got you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But my question is. Nah. Like, teams that win the championship, not. Man, why everybody keep hating on them, man?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

They. It used to be people coming to bandwagon.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now they hating on the team. But, like, okay, see, when.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Oh, it's the refs. We lose. Oh, Wimby. Oh, Wimby. Come on, man. Respect.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Respect our dub, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Y' all don't know what we've been

[ISO Joe Johnson]

through as an organization, man. Come on, now. Come on, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

We got out the mud. But it's true to Ocho, if you think about it. Success brings enemies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

It used to be, especially when you keep on, you win two or three, they like, and you know that. Let somebody else win. Now you have a little success, they got to have a reason. You did something sinister.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Why you having success? It ain't that you work hard. You. I mean, you. All your life, you've been doing this, and they don't see all. You had to have done something. You sold your soul to the devil. The Illuminati.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, you. You look. You look at it. People. How many people hate the goddamn Patriots over the years when they were winning because they consistently win over and over and over, and people got tired of seeing them always playing in the playoffs. Always playing.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

But that was after Ocho. That was after they had done one three. The first three. Everybody loved them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Just after that, all of a sudden, they won four, then they won five. Like, come on, man. Let somebody else win.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then we just got the same thing with the chase early on. Consistently winning over and over in the regular season, consistently winning over and always in contention. We got damn home. So, I mean, this. This is what you get. This is what. This is what you get.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. It comes with the territory, man. I just feel like, you know, when you think about the.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

The.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The run that the warriors had, I think people kind of started. They got tired of the warriors after about three. After about three championships, I know they was able to get four. Yeah. So I kind of understand what he's saying, too. Like, you know, give OKC some credit, which I always give him credit, but, you know, he feel like they on top of the throne until somebody actually knocked them off.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, stop talking about this. This damn spurs gonna win or spurs in the final. So I can kind of get. I get where he coming from.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Tony Andretti, everybody. Go vote for the one and only. If you meet another, it's a phony. The original Nightcap also mixing five and still King Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What Come on, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

As a CAB fan, I like Evan, but Giannis is light years better. Let's be real. Have to quit thinking Evan will be a consistent 25 and 10 guy. Trade for the freak. Now, you do realize if you trade for it, he's gonna want a max extension. Donovan McNich. Donovan Mitchell is going to want a max extension.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I don't see him going there, though. I'm sorry.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I don't either. J Dub, Akron. The drive. The fumble. The decision. Collapse. Bta, hashtag curse. Yes, the drive. Elway had to drive in 80s. In 80s, that was 86. He had to drive, and then 87 was the fumble. You're right. LeBron. The decision. And then the collapse. You're right. Yeah. What's up, y'?

[Chad Ochocinco]

All?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I'm 21, newly married, gonna make 100k this year, but I want to reach the next level and be the first in my family to reach generational wealth. What advice for the future do you guys have?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. Married at 21.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Well, hey, hopefully, if you stay married, that's the quickest way. Because if you don't stay married, it's gonna be a while before you get there. Cause you do realize she's gonna take. She's gonna take half, and she's gonna take half your pension, so just understand that. Second of all, you're gonna have to live below your means. Way, way, way below. Because a hundred thousand is not a hundred thousand. When Ocho and I and Joe was growing up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Things are a lot more costly now. Homes, gas, cars, living. I don't know if you have any kids. I don't know how soon you plan on having kids. They're a lot more expensive. Daycare is a lot more expensive back then. You ain't gonna no daycare. You got dropped off at your cousin, though. Your aunt's house, your grandma house. That was a daycare.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Auntie house. Yes, I remember days.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So I'm just. I'm just being real with you, bro. Hey, but congratulations, Michael. That's for you. Oo, Nixon. Four, baby.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

The Cavs shot their load in game one. With that being said, Nixon, for the real question is, what's the easiest path? Spurs or okc? Neither,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

whoever you get.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Rick loves his hot prediction. LeBron returns home next season and finish his career in Cleveland. What a better way to end a docu series by ending the story where it all began. Easy path to another ring. Ain't nothing easy about no rings now, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now. But you, you, you, you in that Western Conference, you See the gauntlet. Hey, hey, I. I kind of. I kind of understand where you're coming from. You go to that if Brown go to the east, you know, every night won't be such a. You know, a stiff night. You don't get no go to the Nuggets. Huh?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Go to the Nuggets.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't get no off night in that West. You don't get no off night here. You playing a juggernaut every damn night.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

TS Car Wash Detail Service. Tyreek Evans or O.J. mayo?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tyree. Tyreek Evans or O. J. Mayo?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I think O.J. got hurt. Really? Tyreek was. Was a rookie of the year. I don't know what happened to him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, tell him. A Tyree Evans.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who played for Sacramento.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I think something happened, man. Well, I think he got banned from the NBA. Uncle Ocho. I think he went overseas.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. He got. He got banned.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause he was not. He won Rookie. He averaged 20 points, five assists, five rebounds.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, he was nice. He was nice. I. I came. I don't. I don't really. I don't know what happened, man. His. His career was short lived, though. But you're talking about somebody who has some game. That boy was nice.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Knicks match up better with the Spurs. They don't want. No, they don't want that OKC smoke. I don't think they match up good with the Spurs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't either.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Don't nobody really match up with them because don't nobody match up with wimby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Bingo.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Shannon posted ISO how disheartened is it to always see your hometown of. On these top 10 dangerous cities in the States? How important is it for people like you or Darren McFadden to help encourage the youth coming from Little Rock, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's huge. That's the place that raised us. That's where we grew up. That's what we learned, whether it was Darren McFadden playing football or myself playing basketball. And you know, you don't want to stray too far away, man. You know, you always want to be able to reach back. You know, give them kids some hope, some aspirations, and let them know that it can. That it's possible. You know what I mean? Because when you come from these small places like this, bro, you know, sometimes, man, you know, you. You don't think it's possible. Because I'm gonna be honest with y'. All. When I was growing up, until I got to the 10th grade, meaning I was about 15 years old, is when I. When I really felt I really had a chance to play professional ball, but as a kid, kid in junior high and all that, ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I. I didn't. I didn't know if it was possible, you know what I mean? And when I got to high school, I was playing and competing with guys like Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, you know, all the former Razorbacks. So to me, that was the NBA, you know what I mean? Damn, if I could be a Razorback, hell, I'd be all right. I'd be a hell of a player. So once I got to that point, I was like, oh, yeah? Yeah, I got a real chance. So giving back to our community and where we come from, that's definitely a huge value.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I agree, Joe. I think the thing is for us is that now they have so many options. You have, you know, you have these, 70 have these camps. You have, you know, football camps, and you have people that are from there. I mean, we didn't see anybody. We didn't know anybody from Glimmer that ever really gone to college, let alone play college football, play college, anything. And, and, and, and. And to. To finally make that happen and to see that. Hold on. These guys are from Glenville? Yeah, we're from Glenville, Georgia.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And Coach all was our coach also.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And Elaine Kills was my teacher. Austin kills. Mr. Kills was my principal. Yep. So a lot of the teachers that you guys had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We had, yeah, Absolutely.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

So, yeah. It doesn't guarantee everybody's gonna make it out of there, because everybody that was in my class didn't make it. Nope. But to. To. To know that it's possible. Sometimes, unless you see it, you don't believe it's possible.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you don't, bro.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I, I, you know, I, you know, my brother tell the story all the time. He said, man, me and that joker looked at the same window, and we saw two different things. Oh, yeah, and he coming on, too. He gonna come on. He said he want to come on. He said he wanted to jump in the comments. He said, because he saw people said that that didn't happen, but my grandmother did and all that. He said, I saw it. He said, but I got distracted. He said, but I'm gonna come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I'm gonna set the record straight. He said, but because people see me say, I'll be at a golf tournament. He said, your man said. He said. Your brother said this? He said, man, well, first of all, my brother ain't telling y' all what really happened. He just telling Y', all the version that he can tell on air. He said, that joker want to write a book, then he could put it all in there. He said, me and him don't really have a problem talking about it. I don't talk about as much. Obviously, I don't have the platform that he does. He said, but my sister just cringe. Yeah, he said, but he gonna come on and tell the story. Cause I didn't tell this part. Cause when I told my grandmother that me and Lanny got a dollar raise, she said, that was too much money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah,

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

a dollar is too much. And then you gonna tell a man, I should have swung on Granny, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, man, listen. Hey, I know them days, boy.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Man, hey, that woman give us her last. Yeah, that woman gave us her last. I don't care what nobody said. Grandparents love the grandkids more than they love their own kids.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, for sure. For sure.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Her kids would come ask for money. I ain't got no money. Yeah, granted, we need X, Y and Z.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They make it happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And come up with somebody from somewhere.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Neither the Knicks nor the Cows beating any team that come out of the West. I don't care if it goes seven games.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And that's why we say, you know, to some, they feel like the Western Conference finals is the finals. But you. Hey, hey, hey. Due to all these injuries. And like I always said, man, the west gonna beat each other up. Hell, by the time they get to the finals, you gotta hope they have some guys left to play here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

What's up, Nightcap? What's the best way to avoid burnout? You guys talk about all the work that you put in, about your craft. How often will you take breaks if you ever did? None, I didn't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bro, I'm talking about. And hey, hey, no lie. I'm talking about as soon as the season was over with, whether we was in the playoffs or not, I was going straight home. We had a summer league at the Dunbar rig, bro, listen, this thing used to be off the meter. It used to be jumping Uncle Ocho. Back home in Little Rock. I couldn't wait to get back home and play in that. I'm talking about that was three months right there. Straight basketball. Two, three games a week. So I never. I never. I never really took breaks like that, bro.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Nope, I didn't. I took about a month off, then I right back in.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, same. Yeah, I took about a month off, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was a gradual increase.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I a we start hitting it back right away.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And listen, look, hey, hey. I remember one season I was playing in Phoenix. Soon as the season was over with, the very next day, my high school, Little Rock Central High School, we had a, like a student faculty game and I came home and played in that like, season just was over the day before.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Wow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I, I enjoy the game, bro.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

That's how I was, Joe. I mean, if you don't eat enough, you don't get enough rest, you'll get burned out. But if you getting rest. And I don't know about y', all, but as hard as I was working out, I couldn't wait to get my ass into bed. Yeah, I'm sleep, I'm sleep at 9, 9:30, 10 o' clock at the absolute latest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. If you get, if you go and get up, go and get up and get that work in. I promise. I'm talking about when I say get up and go and get it in. If you can get up by like 6, I'm talking about really get some work in by 9 o'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Clock.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When 9 o', clock, roll around 9 o' clock in the evening. Your ass gonna be tired if you ain't took no long nap.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I, My schedule was on what I would be if I was in Denver. So I worked at it. I worked out at like, like at 9. So I got up at 7 o' clock to eat. Ate a good solid breakfast, you know, oatmeal, egg whites, drank about a, you know, half a bottle, half a, you know, 1 to 1.5 liters. Drank about a half a bottle of that. And I go lay back down till about 8:15. I would shower, get up, make my way to the track because we gonna run at 9:30. I'm at the track by nine, I'm stretching, you know, getting everything running, hit it. 9:30 till about 11:15, we run, I go home, I eat, I shower, I take a nap, I get back up, I shower again. Now I'm going to the gym, get another hour and a half, two hours of lifting back home. Eat, watch tv, eat a snack, I'm in the bed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Sometimes I watch tv. I would go weeks without watching tv.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that training has to be the distraction it has. Distraction.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Lifting all them heavy ass, that heavy ass weight running.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, them some good days though, bro. If I had to do it again,

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I wouldn't change a thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Lord, wouldn't change a thing.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Do you think LeBron is going to want to play with Harden And Cleveland,

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think he'll take a lot of pressure off Harden. I think they, they actually take pressure off each other. If I'm just being 100, it's just when you rely on him for so much. Now, if you got James Harden, Donovan, Mitchell, and LeBron, I feel like offensively they can take some pressure off each other, but damn, you're gonna need somebody who can play some damn defense.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Thank you. Hello. Point guard. Shooting National Guard. Nixon. 4. What's up? Ocho and ISO. You seen that update Rashid Rice? Man, some guys just don't learn. Like, come on, bro. He young, man. He just got to get it, bro. You own, bro, they told you a part of your probation. No drugs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What they. What do you get? He got caught with something.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

They test you. He, they put him on probation for the incident that he had, the excessive speeding. That's why I don't get with these guys. Excessive speeding. You just saw Henry Ruggs, three years first round draft pick. Ocho. 100 plus miles an hour slamming the back. Kill the lady. Boom. Go to jail.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I mean, think about how many people that that has happened to. Come on, guys. And Rasheed, you got drag with. A Part of the condition of your release of not doing any time was you couldn't have any drugs in your system. They're gonna test you. I just hope that's crazy. I just hope he gets the help, you know? Bro, don't mess this up. Don't mess this up, bro. There's so much money to be made

[Chad Ochocinco]

for weed.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

For weed. Everybody talking about we. I don't care if it's legal. It's not legal if you get caught and they put your ass on probation.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Facts.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

They said no drugs. Yeah, I know y', all, man. We, they, I don't care. They don't want to hear any about that because he agreed to it. He could have said no. I can't do without that weed. Let me go to do my time in jail so I can get out and smoke as much as I want to. He could have done that. He didn't have to take this plea. But if you take the plea, Ocho, you got to adhere to the. Yeah, to what the agreement says.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So what? Hey, they gonna suspend him, you think?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I don't think they'll suspend him. He in jail. He just had surgery a week ago. Guess what they don't do in jail. Oo and Joe. Rehab, rehab,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

rehab. You see, you hit it right on the nose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now,

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

it could be a possibility. I, I, I, I've seen Guys, we've had guys on the team, they did some stuff. They had to do some time. The jail was right next to the facility. Guess what they do. Game an hour, game an hour, go get rehab. They walk right back to the jail after they done.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, get out of here.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I swear for God.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Walk right back. Hey, get the rehab and go. Walk right back to jail. Come back walking distance. You had no car. How you gonna get there?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Walk right across the field. Like I said, man, I don't see some things. I don't see how to solve some things about in my time. Guys, what's good and still big ISO. As a Hawks fan, bad memories come to mind when I see bp. This year, the Bucks won the title. He and Giannis killed us in the Eastern Conference finals that year. BP was gassed up. He said it. He said when Giannis went down with a hyperextended knee. I thought that was a great chance for the. For the Hawks. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Bp Step right in. He always. He's always been. Been a. Been a real professional, bro. Any. Anytime he gets his opportunity to play, I promise. Y' all can go look at the numbers, bro. He gonna. That boy can manage. Some way, somehow, he gonna get him 20 and 10, you know what I mean? He a great asset to a team. For real.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, I Ocho ISO. I got catfished on land a few days ago. She sent me a pre Covid photo. I took her down, but I thought I was wrestling Mark Henry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you. You. You went in there anyway, huh?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Hey, it'll come too far. Oh, JoJo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sometimes you got to take. Sometimes you got to take more.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Take one for the team, man. But hey, sometimes guys, there ain't even no team. They just taking it for the damn self. That's the problem. It wasn't no team. He was just him on his own.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well. Well, the one thing he knew. The one thing he knew what nobody gonna know about unless he. Unless he told.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that boy said pre Covid, man.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Kobe, six years ago. Don't know if you mentioned this, but what are your thoughts on the NAACP telling high school athletes not to enroll in any state funded school in the South, Especially the ones in the SEC and the acc.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who said this?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

The naacp. Because of the gerrymandering. I think that's what it has to do with the. The gerrymandering. I think it's just hard for these kids because these kids feel like these are the best places that's going to help them.

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[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Get to the next level, which is go to the NFL. Some, some of these kids have dreamed their whole life are playing for these institutions, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

And I get it. I get it. It's different now. It's different now. It, it really is. It's just different than kids. I don't know. I, I understand both sides. I, I, we're here. We're here. We're in the situation now. We're in it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Why is Castle allowed to grow his hair out and sell sell calls with it? Looking like he get whiplash every time he's touched his body gets his hair gets pulled. No, you can't deliberately grab some. This is not the NFL. The NFL says hair is a part of the equipment. Absolutely right, Ocho. So you see guys get tackled by you see guys get their stuff pulled out. In basketball, it's not a part of your uniform.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, sir.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

You can't intentionally. You can't grab a guy's hair. It's funny how everybody's saying you got to be physical with women, but if you breeze, touch Shay, it's a whistle. Double standard. Going crazy right now, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I told the shade, what, six, seven?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

60. It's a bunch of people in the goddamn NBA same height as Shay. Obviously his skill set is a little different depending on who he's playing night, you know, each night Wimby is completely different. You have to be physical. It's the only way you're gonna have a chance to do anything with someone that goddamn tall. Everybody's at a disadvantage. Everybody. That's the only reason why I think the referee gonna hold that whistle tomorrow. You'll see.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they playing. And they playing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. In San Antonio.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

I don't think it's, I don't think it's his height that's the problem. I think it's his skill that's the problem. Because we've seen a lot of tall guys. Yeah. Hell, DeAndre.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

It ain't getting physical with him. There are a lot of a Lot of tall guys, but it's his skill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep. That's a separator.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yep. Wish CP3 would have stayed with the spurs this season. One more year mentoring them guards. And right now he would be valuable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cp, CP will be valuable. But it's kind of like you look at Kyle Lowry over there for the Philadelphia 76ers. His ass. When last time y' all seen him get in the game. He ain't got in no damn game.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, when they losing by 30, when they lose about 35 and there's four minutes left in the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but the thing is, CP want to play. And hell, if you got Fox and Harper and Castle play now, I mean, they, they. They would want to use him more as a player's coach.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, right. He got too many guards.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

ISO, which buzzer beater felt sweeter? Toronto in 2014, a Clippers in 2017? Ocho, how would you feel we would have done against the 70s Raiders defense? Which buzzer beater, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna say the Clippers, the one in the playoffs. You know, I remember being in Utah and probably about the last five or six games, we were teetering with the Clippers as far as the four and the five seed, right? And I remember Quinn Snider. We had a team, me, we was watching film, actually, and we was talking about what seed we trying to get. Obviously we trying to get the highest seed. And I just said, I don't mind us playing on the road first because we had so many guys who had never been in the post season. I was like, because we can sit here and tell these guys what the postseason is like, what the playoffs is like, but until they get their ass out there in it, that's when they're really truly understanding. And when you're on the road, maybe you can squander a game away, but by the time we get home to games three and four, we'll know what type of intensity we need to play with. And obviously, you know, we went on to win that series. So that was probably the one of the most memorable ones because that was game one.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Ojo, how would you have done against the 70 Raiders?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I would have gave them boys that business. And they were playing man to man in your face, too. Hey, hey, hey. Who, hey, who was that that come up there with that wide ass?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Melt the Hayes man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let's bring his ass up there with that wide ass dance. He gonna get let. He gonna get left.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Right there in that spot, they had Willie Brown, Lester, they had a defense. Good look they were just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Really good defense back then.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Boy, you better catch a passing duck. Cause Jack, you know, Jack Tatum, the assassin was back there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

knocking heads off.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Boy, they've been dirty. Boy, they gave the right name. The Raiders. We need a nightcap stream at the World Cup. Ocho, take the guys to a game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Heart.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm ready.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Yeah, what you say?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I say we out. Man, what's up?

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

We're gonna do something. Hardenstein need to watch out or else the spurs fan gonna be after him like Yolanda. After what he. She saw, what she. Oh, what she did to Selena. He better watch out now. Ghost birds go. Yeah, she came up for parole. She gonna stay her ass in jail. ISO, please tell me Ocho doing this talking for tv. Ocho could see ISO or BP if he had binoculars in his hand. Love you guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, he just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How you gonna tell. Yeah, you gonna tell me what I can. Who I can see and who I can't? Just because you feel like you can't. Don't tell me what I can't do. You sound like my teachers in high school, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. They know you all. They know you all.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Bark.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No bite.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, I've been. I've been biting since 87, boy. Since 87, I've been biting, boy.

[Unk (Host/Co-host)]

Everything. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you guys for joining us. The Knicks take a 20 lead, 109 to 93. Jalen Brunson, 19 points, 14 assists, which was the most by Nick Player since 1998. Josh Hart stole the show. He had 26 points on 10 or 21 shooting, four rebounds, seven assists. Cat had another double double. OG was in double figures and Mikhail Bridges was a double figure. They shot 52% from the floor and they ride a pretty good shooting night. And they went by 16, 109 to 93. Now the Cavaliers will see if they can browse back at home on Saturday. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That is my partner and co host. That is Liberty City's own, the former pro Bowler and all pro from the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the Big three. That is the smooth shooting two guard, the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alumni. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys so much for your support and your continued support because all this is all because of you. None of this can be accomplished without you. So thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Again, thank you for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by La Portier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Two sizes, the OG the 750 and the Junior the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for four Hashtag Sports Awards in 2026 Best Brand Partnership for Nightcap Outside with Row Best Podcast Best Athlete Podcast Best Use of Live Video. That link is pinned in the chat. Go vote. You can vote as many times as you like and help Nightcap bring home some more hardware. We want to thank our very, very special guest joining us tonight, NBA champ from the Milwaukee buck, Bobby Porters. Bobby, appreciate you. Look forward to seeing you again down the road. The next beat the Cavs, 109 to 93. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We'll see you tomorrow night. We'll see if the spurs can bounce back in Game three at home. I'm unk he's oo He's ISO. See you tomorrow night. Peace. Sa. And now Superhuman Shack I keep telling

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