Nightcap Hour 3: DON’T WALK on My GRASS + Q & Ayyy

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 3: “DON’T WALK on My GRASS + Q & Ayyy”

Date: May 23, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), with Playmaker team

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Episode Overview

This high-energy, late-night sports talk episode finds legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (joined by ISO Joe Johnson) handling real-time reactions to NBA and NFL news, Q&A from fans, playful banter, and memorable stories from their athletic careers. The show keeps things loose and interactive, moving from hot takes on the latest games to audience questions and shout-outs that cross sports and life advice, all with the hosts’ trademark humor and unfiltered honesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Post-Game Nightcap Vibes & Energy

• The hosts kick off with a discussion on the late-night grind, comparing post-show energy to post-game adrenaline (02:27–03:38).
  • Ocho: “I get so worked up so high. And then I got to come back down. It take me like a whole hour.” (03:11)
  • They swap tales of staying up all night after recording and the challenges of adjusting to the late schedule after big games.

NBA & Fan Q&A – Wild, Rapid Fire (05:00–09:10)

• Shaq vs. Steph Curry: Shot-Making Contest

  • Isaiah from Cali asks who wins: Shaq (free throws) or Steph (from half-court, 10 shots each).
  • The crew debates whether Shaq can hit 5/10 free throws, ultimately doubting Steph could make more from half-court.
  • Ocho: “If you give Shaq a week to practice… Shaq can hit about six of them.” (06:42)

• Lakers Trade Talk

  • Caller suggests Lakers trade for Mitchell Robinson, sign & trade Austin Reeves for more 3-and-D guys.
  • Joe: “Where you get your scoring from?” Ocho: “Luke and LeBron.” Joe: “LeBron gonna be gone.” (08:36–08:47)
  • Discussion on the drawbacks of trading away scoring, and Robinson’s free throw/foul issues affecting late-game lineup viability.

Kobe Bryant’s Legacy & The Great GOAT Debate (09:12–12:37)

• Caller points out Kobe’s exceptional yet under-discussed defensive stats and playmaking.
  • Hosts reflect on how player legacies are entrenched, comparing passionate camps of Kobe, LeBron, and Jordan followers.
  • Ocho: “Wherever you are… politically, you ain’t winning nobody over… It’s a moot point.” (11:20)

2024 NFL MVP Controversy & Wideout Hierarchy (13:07–18:40)

• Caller asks why Lamar Jackson didn’t win MVP in 2024 despite stellar numbers.

  • Sharpe and Ocho agree the voting was inconsistent and illogical.
  • Notable Quote (Ocho):
    “The same people that voted him first team all Pro voted Josh Allen the league MVP. Well, if Josh Allen is the league MVP at the quarterback position, wouldn’t you vote him first team all Pro at the quarterback position?” (16:08)
  • Ocho details the difference between low-level and elite wide receivers as “scheme-dependent” versus those who need no help getting open (Devonte Adams, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson).
    • “High level route runners… don’t really need much help. You can line them up on the left, on the right, and say, I need you to get open. Make my job easy for once.” (17:27)

• John Wall Stories

  • ISO Joe regales with a tale of dominating a 3-on-3 with John Wall and D. Wade’s son.
    • “His ad living throughout that whole three on three game… you got to hear him. You got to hear him talk. He funny as hell, a hell of a competitor, great dude.” (18:40)

LeBron’s Next Destination & Team Fit (20:18–21:00)

• Speculation about potential fits for LeBron, with Ocho suggesting the Spurs or Timberwolves.
  • Playmaker: “Everybody can’t play with Braun, man, if we just keeping it 100, right?” (20:42)
  • Focus on the need for shooters around LeBron and concerns about chemistry with young teams.

Bench Mob History: OKC Thunder Praise & Comparisons (25:20, 32:09–35:07)

• Reflect on OKC’s bench putting up 76 points, crediting their depth.
  • Ocho: “That bench… outscored your starters, that never happens.” (25:37)
  • Comparison with legendary NBA benches (1986 Celtics, Warriors with Iguodala, Heat with Ray Allen), emphasizing that all great teams need bench depth.

Iconic College Running Backs: Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson (39:10–39:47)

• Hosts split between AD’s dominance as power back and Reggie Bush’s electric versatility.
  • “Reggie… That dude was electric.” (39:27)
  • “AP was probably… what you do? I’m gon’ hand it to you or I'm gon’ toss it to you. He gonna do the rest.” (39:39)

Playful Banter and Life Wisdom

• Kitchen rules and superstition about eating spaghetti prepared by a romantic partner (“You’re not supposed to eat spaghetti that women cook” – 50:39).
• Relationship advice: confidence is key for talking to girls, not eye issues or excuses (46:32).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the GOAT Debate:
  “It don’t do no good because wherever you are, you are... If you a Jordan fan, you not leaving to go to LeBron, Kobe... We’re not going to win anybody.” – Ocho (11:20)
• On Lamar MVP Snub:
  “The same people that voted him first team all Pro voted Josh Allen the league MVP... wouldn’t you vote him first team all Pro at the quarterback position?!” – Ocho (16:08)
• On Being an All-Star:
  “That’s a hell of a feeling, bro, to be amongst the greats, the best to play the sport at that time. And you’re a part of that… It’s a hell of a confidence booster.” – Playmaker/ISO (44:26)
• Fun Banter:
  “You’re not supposed to eat spaghetti that women cook.” – Ocho (50:39);
  “Don’t come to me talking about what you can cook and what you could do… that is not for me.” – Joe (51:03)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• Show Starts / Q&A Opener (02:27)
• NBA Half Court vs. Free Throw Challenge (05:00 – 07:47)
• Lakers Trade Proposals (07:51 – 09:07)
• Kobe Bryant and Player Legacy Debates (09:12 – 12:37)
• Lamar Jackson MVP Discussion & Receiver Rankings (13:07 – 18:40)
• John Wall Basketball Stories (18:40 – 19:31)
• LeBron’s Next Stop? (Spurs, Wolves, Fit) (20:18 – 21:00)
• Thunder’s Bench & NBA Bench Comparisons (25:20, 32:09 – 35:07)
• Reggie Bush vs. Adrian Peterson (39:10 – 39:47)
• Fun Q&A: Spaghetti, Dating, Paper Plates (50:07 – 51:41)
• Listener Shoutouts (Graduations, Birthdays) (13:13, 35:13, 45:11, 47:35+)
• Thunder vs. Spurs Game Recap (52:27 – 53:43)
• Closing: Awards and Podcast Plugs (53:52 – End)

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Listener Interaction & Shout-Outs

• Multiple heartfelt shoutouts for graduations and birthdays (Joshua, Roderick, Zoe, Willie III, Dion, Tracy, Cameron, Eddie).
  • “Zoe, congratulations. The cheerleading squad. That is a very, very big accomplishment. And we at Nightcap are very, very proud of you.” (47:56)
  • “Roderick, happy 30th birthday, man…” (45:33)

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Conclusion & Tone

The entire episode is a blend of high-energy debate, playful ribbing, nostalgic sports storytelling, and down-to-earth life talk. The hosts’ camaraderie is on full display—no topic too big or small, no question too wild, and always a willingness to break down sports talk into relatable, real-life wisdom. The show ends with sports recaps and a thank you to fans, inviting continued support and participation.

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Useful for:

• Anyone wanting a roundup of the latest NBA and NFL debates, delivered with legendary athlete insight and fun.
• Fans curious about the dynamic debates that fuel the GOAT discussions, modern league narratives, and what elite pros really think about “the little things”.
• Listeners seeking lighthearted, relatable off-the-court life lessons and shout-outs.

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Transcript

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[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, hey boy. Hey. I don't know if y' all know this boy. Hey Joe. Last night Joe while we're fighting for my life, I don't know if you noticed it. Hey, the chat was on my head, boy, I forgot to take my nap yesterday, Joe.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Oh, boy.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I stayed. You know, I wake up at seven in the morning, take the baby to school, pick up when they get out at 2. I stayed up the whole time, watched the game and tried to get on the show, man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Boy, what you think, Ocho? I had to fly yesterday. I flew yesterday.

[Joe (Co-host)]

For real?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

You ain't getting no sleep none. How you had all that energy?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I just got to do what I got to do, and then it take me a while because I gotta. I have to come back down.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Because I get so I work myself up so high. Yeah. And then I got to come back down. It take me like a whole hour.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You talking about when we get off here to go to sleep? Yeah, it take me a minute, too. I can't go right to sleep when I get off.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

That's how I've always been like that. Like when I was in college, you know, after I played a game in the NFL, man, it take me some hours. I just can't go right to sleep, bro.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You know how many nights we didn't got off here, man? I still be up 4, 5 in the morning, man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I think so, Duke. Cause I be. I be DMing him, and he was responding. Hey, hey. I don't know how I like, hold on. I look, I look. I'm like, hold on.

[Joe (Co-host)]

It's.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

It's 12, 23, 20 there. He hit me right back.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, I don't see how you do it. When we get. When we get off, it's when we get off here, we get off sometime. We get off at 3. Sometime we get at 2:30 tonight, we'll probably get off, what, maybe 2:15.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

When I hit that bed is good night. Irene and I got a. I got a flight. My flight is 7 o' clock in the morning. Anyway, I'm going to T. Higgins got a celeb game in Knoxville, Tennessee, tomorrow at 3 o'.

[Superhuman Shack Narrator]

Clock.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What? A softball game?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Not basketball.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Basketball.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah. I'm gonna go out there, you know. Hey, Joe. Probably 22, 15 and 10 real quick, man.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Here he go.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You hear me?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, it's gonna be. It's gonna be footage. See, ain't no. Ain't no best this time. So I ain't gotta pass. I ain't gotta pass the ball. I could just. I could just play. Okay, where y' all playing at at Knoxville High School? I think T. He must have went to Oak Ridge High.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, I Was about right.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Tennessee.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Okay.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Before we get to our super chats, we've got four video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one.

[Isaiah (Caller from Northern Cali)]

Cheetah pants and still king ISO. What's up with y', all, man? Isaiah coming in from Northern Cali. So look, Shaq versus Stephen, 10 shots apiece. Shaq from the free throw line. Steph from the half court line, who makes more shots out of 10. And UNC and Joe, y' all need to start listening to that man, Ocho. He trying to tell y' all the truth, man. He's right about these basketball picks left and right. And he keep trying to tell y' all to eat y' all McDonald's, but y' all won't listen. And now y' all having knee surgeries and stuff. And look at Ocho. His knees are just fine. You know, he got a little glaucoma.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

But we got.

[Isaiah (Caller from Northern Cali)]

We got good stuff out here in Cali that could fix that right up. Ocho. Appreciate y', all, man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, well, hey, I didn't have any problems either when I was O's age. Once I hit 50, the odometer needed to be reset back, but.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah,

[Joe (Co-host)]

but hey, what do you just ask? We. We seen. We seen Steph half court.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

So he said, shaq from the free throw line. Free throw line. Steph's still gonna have court.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Steph's still gonna win.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You think so? I know he can. I know he makes some half court shots.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, he gonna need to make at least three. I think Shaq can make three out of ten.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I do, too.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You hold on. You talking about right now?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. Right.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

So you get Shaq right now? Yeah, Right at the studio, say okay. Okay, Shaq, come on, let's go.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I'll put my money on shit. I'll put my money on shit.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Steph. Steph, he hitting from anywhere, boy.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hey, I know what he capable of, Ocho, but I'm putting my money on Shaq. I think Shaq can pull a little one off.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I think it's gonna be close, though, Joe. Now if you let Shaq. If you give Shaq a week to practice. Yeah, I would say, Shaq, go get it. Because Shaq can hit about six of them. I give Shaq five, six of them. I don't think Steph can hit. I don't think Steph can hit five or six from half court.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I don't either. That's what I'm saying. I Think Shaq can at least give you five? I think he'd go 50, man.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Y' all seen Steph warm up, man, shoot some half court in the stands.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He gotta make. He gotta make at. Gonna have to make at least four. Yeah, yeah, look, look.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Three for 10 is great from half court.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Hell yeah. Two from 10. Yeah, the hell you shoot for 50ft?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I don't see. I don't see Shaq. I got Shaq making 5 out of 10 free throw.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Now, if you say give Shaq, if you say okay, Steph, shoot from the corner. Three.

[Joe (Co-host)]

That's too easy.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Come on.

[Joe (Co-host)]

That's too easy.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Come on.

[Joe (Co-host)]

That's too easy.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

That man probably won't go do that blindfold.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He probably might not miss one.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

There you go. And be at least nine for 10.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Here's the second one. Let's take a listen, family.

[Forest City Caller]

What's up, Ojo? And still King ISO. What it do? Forest City, Arkansas native here. Hey, listen, what y' all think about this? I think the Lakers to trade for Mitchell Robinson. I think he'll be a perfect center for Luca and LeBron. And I think we should sign and trade Austin Reeves for some more better wing three and D guys. What y' all think?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Man, I like Mitchell Robinson, but that damn free throw, that free throw game that the teams play, it's gonna. It's gonna be hard for him to gain a rhythm. They gonna always keep him out the game. Bro, if you. If he don't work on the free throws and get that down, he gonna always. And he foul prone, too.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yep. That's why he can't play late in the games.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hold on. He just said 2, 3, and D, guys. And you, you, you, you, you. You let Reeves go. Where you get your scoring from?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Luke and LeBron.

[Joe (Co-host)]

LeBron gonna be gone.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Well, he's saying sign. He was saying trade Luca. Keep. Basically keep LeBron. Sign Mitchell Robinson. So now you got three and D guys in mean.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Trey, Austin.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Austin Reeves.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yes.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Damn.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Lakers gonna have some decisions to make. Here's the third one. Yes, sir.

[Caller discussing Kobe Bryant]

Big three first. I want to show y' all something.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Nice little collection there, boy.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You can let me know if I'm

[Caller discussing Kobe Bryant]

completely wrong about this, but we hear conversations with Kobe about top five, top ten, top three, whatever it is. The analysts never bring up how he's second in all time defense, third most assists for shooting guards. One of only three players to win back to back without a top 75. And he was the first player with 30, 000 points and 6, 000 assists. I mean, those never get brought up. When we talk about Kobe, I appreciate.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Well, look, they talk about Kobe, didn't have a top 75, but that damn pal Gasol and Lamar Odom, hey, them boys was hell, you know, when they went, they went. They went to back to back finals. So I. I mean, I ain't. Kobe was never out there by himself, man. He. He had some help.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

It's just. You know what it is, it's like with Tom Brady and they don't want to give his receivers credit. They don't want to give Edelman, they don't want to give Amendola, they don't want to give Dion Branch. And they just talk about where Randy Moss and Gronk. Yeah, you have to understand, every top receiver was not going to be able to play in that system. Everybody can't go have what top Ocho. You let Ocho explain it. A top receiver one week catch one pass, and then he might catch one pass one week, three pass the next week, and then he go 10, go crazy.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah,

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

y' all don't understand. Y' all don't understand the mindset of a number one receiver.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Especially when a team. Joe, when the team say, today you ain't catching nothing. And they mean that, and they do just that. No matter where you go, you ain't getting nothing. You got some weeks teams, we're gonna just play you. We're gonna play you up, Rock. We're gonna play you. We're gonna play you. Honest.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Look, I mean, it's getting to the point I'm looking at. I'm looking at rating these players. I'm, you know, the previous players. I'm gonna look at it like I do right now. Where we are. Talk to me in 28. Ain't nothing we can do about it right now, right? Kobe's where he is, LeBron's where he is. Jordan is where he is. I'm gonna deal with Jokic, Wemby, guys that are playing now. It don't do no good because wherever you are, you are. It's just like wherever you are, politically, you ain't winning nobody over. You not bringing nobody to your side. Guys, no matter what. You see what is happening and ain't nobody left that side. You see what is happening, and nobody's left this side. So what? We do it. You're not gonna win anybody. If you a Jordan fan, you not leaving to go to LeBron, Kobe, Kareem, Shaq, Steph or anybody. If you're a LeBron fan. You're not leaving LeBron to go to Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, no Kareem, nobody. What we doing? It's a moot point. It really is.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Now

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

all we doing is regurgitating the same stats. Yep, LeBron did this, Kobe did that, Jordan did this, Jordan didn't win to Kobe. LeBron had to go to D. Wade, Kobe had Shaq, Denny had pow. But pow wasn't that good. And yep, that's what we are. That's really where we are. Guys, here's the fourth one. Let's take a listen.

[Caller asking about Lamar MVP and John Wall]

Ocho ISO, what's going on? Hey man, I'm putting on for the South. Outkast said south got something saying y' all saying it. Oh, quick question, no PC stuff, but can you explain why Lamar didn't win the 2024 MVP? I think that would go down as the craziest upset in sports. I honestly. But can you please give your take on that? Ocho, can you please explain the difference between a low level receiver and a high level receiver when it comes to route running?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What's the art of it?

[Caller asking about Lamar MVP and John Wall]

ISO man, hey, still dog. Much love, but I know you didn't play with John Wall, but I know you played against him. Do you have any takes or opinions about him? He's my favorite player. I just want to know from your insight because he was on the court with him. Appreciate it and thank y'.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

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[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

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[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't know. Ocho and I we've talked about this at nauseam. A man throws for 41 touchdowns with four interceptions. The, the, the. The QBR leading QBR. I think he might have had one fewer win, maybe one or two fewer wins than than Josh Allen. He was the, he was voted first team all Pro. The same people that voted him first team all Pro voted Josh Allen the league mvp. Well, if Josh Allen is the league MVP at the quarterback position, wouldn't you vote him first team all Pro at the quarterback position? Ocho?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Joe yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I didn't, I didn't understand it. I didn't.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I didn't understand it either. And that's what I thought was because when, when it came out that Lamar was the, the, the first team all pro quarterback. Oh, I said well,

[Joe (Co-host)]

didn't make any sense.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

And it still doesn't. Yeah, but Josh got the award. Now Lamar does have two of those awards. Most people believe he should have three. He got what he got. I think the next award that he really wants is that super bowl trophy, that super bowl mvp. And then he can tell him like kiss my butt Ocho.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Route runners.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, what's the difference between a high level wide receiver and a low level. Yes, I think for me, honestly, low level wide receiver is one that needs a scheme to be able to get it has to be schemed open. One where an officer created officer coordinator job. I think it's a little bit more difficult in trying to find ways to get him open, you know, having to condense his splits, put him in motion, put him in bunch, you know, to, to kind of Hide him away from some of the things that he's not. Not strong at. I think high level route runners or high level receivers, they don't really need much help. You know, when. When you got to have it, you can line them up on the left, you can run the line up on the right and say, I need you to get open. Make my job easy for once. Make my job easy for once. Devonte Adams, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, jsn. Those are players, obviously play within a scheme, but also Officer Cornet can sit back and relax and say, you know what? On this play, I'm a line you up right here. I need you to go get me that money. Yeah, I need you to get. And they can get it. Every receiver cannot do that. I guarantee you they. They can't.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hey, for me, I played. Obviously I played against John Wall, but if you get a chance, you got to go to YouTube. Look up the three on three. There it was me, John Wall, and we had D. Wade's son on our team. We played against Jalen Brown, Ben Simmons, and they had some other guy. We played three on three. Chris Johnson hosted a. It wasn't that he hosted. He had a three. We played three on three one day because he trained all us when he was out, I was out in la, and this one particular day we all came in, he was like, we're gonna play three on three. And me and John Wall was on team. We ran through them boys. But John Wall, bro, his ad living throughout that whole three on three game. You got. You got to hear him. You got to hear him talk. He funny as. I don't know what a hell of a competitor. Great dude. I enjoyed. I enjoyed that time that we had. But yeah, he. I mean, he a great player.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe, you know John. John playing tomorrow. You know, I'm gonna be a guardian, man.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

He playing. John, he playing in that game with you?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, John Wall. Hold on. A few more. As a few. As I three think three other NBA players. Hold on.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Okay.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, Jon finna get this work though, right?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Okay, yeah, he's gonna get his work. I'm gonna be looking for some footage now.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, oh, you gonna see it. You're gonna see it because I'm gonna be. Hey, I'm gonna be in his shirt, okay? You know I don't play. You know how most of the time when you play basketball, everybody continues to retreat. They retreat, Retreat.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I ain't retreating. You picking up, man, I'm picking up 94ft. What, like OKC, man, sitting in the chair.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Sliding them puppies. Okay, now you get around me if you want to.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I'll say it again. Wimby the alien. But OKC is the mib.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Braun should go to the Spurs. It would be a perfect fit. He would bring championship experience that they need. He could also go to the Wolves.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Nah, I. I mean, I'd rather him go to the Wolves than the damn Spurs. Come on, man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What? Oh, what up, Joe?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

No, they got. They are. They got a nice young nucleus, you know, Everybody can't play with Braun, man, if we just keeping it 100, right?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Everybody shooters.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

If you're gonna let him handle the ball, he be shooters.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah. Cause look, you. You bring Braun over there with Castle and not. That ain't gonna work, bro.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Nope.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, hey, Joe, who was number nine for the Pelicans?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't know.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Number nine.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I think it's Trey Murphy or.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Or.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Who's the other one?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, I can't. The point guard from the Clippers, DeAndre Jordan. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You say nine for the Pelicans.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah. Light skinned dude.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, no, no.

[Joe (Co-host)]

And then. Damn, my homeboy, man, I can't. His name's in my mind. I'm looking Baron Davis. Baron Davis playing too.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

What number is Jordan Poole? He number three.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Huh.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Now that we got. Now. Now we get to hear Perk takes like Wimby career over after one game. Oh, Dejante Murray is Dejounte Murray number nine?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

No, I think he's number five.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

DeAndre Jordan. Yeah, he like seven foot tall, Ocho. So.

[Joe (Co-host)]

No, I'm looking at. That's not. That's not DeAndre Jordan.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Well, he don't play with the Pelicans then.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Now I'm looking at his shirt. It say New Orleans and it say number nine.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

It might have been a long time ago.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, damn. I bet then they couldn't update the picture.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Oh, man, there you go.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I love the show. Oo, where's that energy at? You've been quiet the last two games now. Timmy Hemby, Wimby, OKC in five.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, we. Hey, hey. But we ain't gonna be petty Betty over here. We a. We ain't gonna chastise you. By that we, I mean you.

[Joe (Co-host)]

You don't need a chi. Because I did say. I said, listen, we lost the game. We lost two games, but I said the series was going seven. I said it was gonna be a 12 round boxing fight, but we were gonna come out. We're gonna come out on top.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Okay, y'.

[Joe (Co-host)]

All. Hey, listen. Y' all won round two and three. It's okay.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Well, you better win round four. Cause it won't get past five. All right. I saw a bad luck after game one. They brought that bad juju praising the spurs and Wimby. Y' all go back to celebrating the zestiest team in the league. How we bad? Look, he said we put that.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

We put that, that, that juju on him.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. DS ts, Car Wash Detail Service. Aaliyah made a song Made a cheating song TLC made a cheating song Escape made a cheating song Name a cheating song sung by a man I'll wait

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Tank that I deserve before you go out and find some other guy I do.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

For you to stay down with him all night yeah. For you to do all things Y'

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

all can't get no song by Joe. Now, y' all know Joe?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

They call me the Human Jukebox Man. I know. Okay.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, Joe. Hey, boy. Joe, you sound good. What?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Come on now. The Human Jukebox. Ocho.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, I like that. Okay, Joe. Okay.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, that's why we be getting all them graphics. Ain't number. Hey, Double R B. R B. Okay.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hey, hey, hey, listen. Y' all know the ladies love R B now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We RB that thing out now.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I mean. I mean, one could say Usher Confessions had a little something to do with cheating, didn't it?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hello.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, that's right.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

The whole damn album. Damn now.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Right? Sure did.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

If I wanted to be honest, it looked crazy. Three games. One. But from being owed 03. Yeah. I mean, look, it took a Herculean effort by Wimby that first game.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Or you're right. They're down.03. But give them credit. We'll see what they bounce back. Joe. Believe they can bounce back on Sunday. They ain't got no choice, Ocho. Believe that. They gotta have game four.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Or it won't get. It won't get to game six for sure.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

No, sir.

[Joe (Co-host)]

We got. We got this. Okay. We got this.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Okay. As a Long Thunder fan, what excuse y' all casual is gonna get say now? Just give credit where it's due. Ain't no. Ain't no. Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing to do.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

It ain't, bro.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

The Thunder. Thunder was better team. Especially the last two games. They were the better team.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

That bench. You get 76 points from your bench. Your bench outscore your starters that red.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

That never happens.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Never.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

No, we gotta give him credit.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, you know what?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Go ahead. Go ahead, Ocho. What'd you say?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, the song about men. Men making songs about cheating. Mario Winans. I don't want to know.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't want to know if you

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

playing me Keep it on the low, yeah. Cause my heart, my heart. Hey.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Okay, y' all know what?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Just finished the pod with you and dc. Great episode. Just wanted to say you're on Rogan and Theo's heel. My top three. Nightcap. Jre. Theo. No Cap. Love. Appreciate that, man.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I had a great time with D.C. he's a great guy. Man. D.C. is unbelievable. Just to sit down and have a conversation with man. He's. He loves sports.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Obviously, you know, he's one of the foremost authorities in being able to. Because he can talk. He can talk. A lot of guys can. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know, a lot of guys might have played a particular sport, but they can't. They can't talk it. Yeah, he can talk it. Like, a lot of people can train, but they can't train you.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Right.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

A lot of people can, but they can't coach you. I played the game. I ain't got. I ain't got the patience. But a lot of people can't translate what they did and. And impart that wisdom on you. Yeah, he can talk it. He did it. He's a coach. Oh, I need your top five. Your top six medium, full cigars. ISO. Need a permanent employee. Need. Need permanent employment for nightcap and unk is Kobe over Braun. One, two, three, five. One team. No jumping ship.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Let me see my top five cigars right now. For one, I'm going go with my own 85 cigars. Obviously. My second is my favorite. My favorite go to Jaime Garcia.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Okay.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Right. 60 gauge. My third would probably be the Andalusian bull. LFD. I think it was cigar of the year, maybe 2015, if I'm not mistaken. My fourth would probably be the lunatic, obviously. Another. Another. I love big. I love big ring gauges. So it's probably maybe a 70. Maybe a 70 gauge. And my fifth would probably be a Liga Pravita 9. Number nine. No, small. Small little nub. Yeah, that's. That's probably my five right there.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I got a question. Them cigars, they give you a little buzz, don't they?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

No.

[Joe (Co-host)]

For me. No, no, no.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Joe.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I think. And I think because I've been smoking so long. Joe, you got to understand, I've been smoking cigars since 1990. One I started as a freshman in high school and I've been doing it so long.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Damn.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. I've been doing it so long.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

A freshman in high school.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, Joe. Yeah, yeah. At that point I knew nothing about cigars. I was more so doing it because I wanted to fit in with the crowd that was drinking alcohol and smoking weed. But I understood I couldn't walk in grandma house smelling like no goddamn weed. I couldn't do that. But my grandfather smoked pipes and he smoked cigars. So the smell of me smelling like cigar, I could say, well, well, I was in the Domino house with my grandfather and that's why I smell the way I do. Yeah, I had, I had an alibi. I had it out. And at that point I had done it so long and trying to fit in with the crowd. Then I, I became accustomed to and became a connoisseur and enjoying cigars now. Dude, Joe, I could talk cigars for hours. Joe, man.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hey, I remember my grandpa used to smoke a pipe and it used to smell sweet.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. It depended, you know, they got so

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

many depending on what type of back. What type of tobacco you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My grandfather smoked pipes too. He smoked cigars and pipes.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You know, but the Mole people back in the day, they used to roll their own cigarettes. They weren't spending no money. They had Prince Albert, those Bugle Boy, you know what I'm saying? You know, hey, they weren't spending no money now. And them Camel. Yeah, you know, them Camel, they had no filter.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Lungs fire.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, now I think about it too. Hey, yeah, like. And Joe, you know how you say when you smoke cigars, you know, they say, you know, your lungs messed up, you're supposed to get tired. Joe, I smoked so crazy. I did it through my whole, my whole career before the games, after, after practice. But I was in phenomenal shape. I never got tired, so I'm still smoking. I'm 58 years old. I play Sunday League every Sunday. 90 minutes, Joe. 45 minute halves, running up and down the field, the big field, like a football field. Yeah, I only get, I don't get tired.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Well, damn. Whole career, huh? I mean, I know guys smoke guys, you smoke cigarette cigarettes. Like I say, guys smoke cigarettes and be at the front of the pack, running wind spreads, be first. And I went, and I went to the truck and had two shots of Hennessy.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You know, I think the old, them old school guys were different, man. They different.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

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[Joe (Co-host)]

too long since I've been retired. My black ass ain't stopped moving around. I can't sit still, Joe. I cannot sit still. I got to be doing something active. I got to.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, and but plus Ocho, it's not like cigars. You don't inhale the cigar.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Right,

[Joe (Co-host)]

right, right.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Cut them cigars. They woo. They strong.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Well put you down.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Game three showed OKC's composure and killers spurs got punched in the mouth at home and never recovered despite a promising start. You're right. That was it. I mean, you know, one team held their composure. They weathered the storm. You know they're going to come out with a flurry. Hey, and that's what you tell them. Anytime we go on the road, you know they're going to come out with a flurry. Let's withstand the flurry, play our way to the game, play our way into the game. And you look up after all they did in the first quarter, start of the second quarter, you only up three points.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yep. Hey, hey. What? What it comes down to what we're talking about in the Knicks and Cav series. Hey, we just got to get a couple stops, guys. We got a string couple stops, get back in this damn game. Cut it to about 8 to 10 points. We're going to be all right.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

OKC depth is crazy. Every game it's a different player steps up, takes over. Spurs got to stop letting women get stuck on Caruso.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

What they gonna do? Hell, they, they, they, they sub Hardenstein and bring in Caruso.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What he. Who he gonna Cuz you don't. Because the thing is you. You don't really want him to have to guard chat because all Chad's going to do is stay at the three point line. Yeah, but it seems like when he tries to help off, they swing the ball to Caruso and he's out of position. And Caruso shooting shoot around threes. Yeah, and.

[Joe (Co-host)]

And making him every damn time.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He making them every time.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Cash. Cash.

[Forest City Caller]

Oh.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

The point OO was trying to make was there's never been a bench like okcs. SGA is at least needed mvp. But we've never seen an obvious. Celtics bench at 86. They had a former MVP coming off the bench. He was also sixth man of the year, Bill Walton.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Damn. Bill came out the bench.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He sure did.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

They had some bigs back then, though, Ocho.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Rick Carlisle was on that bench. I'm trying to think. The Sixers used to have a good bench with Bobby Jones and Earl Curtin. I mean, it's. It's really hard to say if you keep it in today's time.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I mean, the Warriors. We talked about the warriors bench.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

When they had Iguodala. You do realize Iguodala was finals mvp and he came off the bench.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He got inserted into the starting lineup, if I'm not mistaken. And what was that game for, Joe?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, I think it was by game four because he was the one doing the best. Listen, they saying he was doing the best job on LeBron, but LeBron numbers was still crazy.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

36, 13, and 9.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, it was still crazy.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I hate to see if he didn't guard him. So you think about it. When they had. When they had Leandro Barbosa and they had Livingston.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

And they had Iggy coming off the bench. I think. I think Festus is even.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. They had a nice squad coming off that bench.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. But most teams that win the title, the bench. You gotta have some resemblance of a bench. You just do.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You do.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I mean it. When the heat. When the heat was winning, you know, they was bringing Mike Miller, they was bringing baddier. They have depth on the bench.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. I think Ray Allen came off. Did Ray Allen come?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, he did.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

But you o. Joe, Joe. If it didn't happen yesterday, it didn't happen in. In the social media eyes. Yeah, right. Spurs can win every game. Can win every game. Unless the refs have something to. To say about. I mean, say about it.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, that was a good one.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't think the ref. I don't think the rest were the issues tonight. I think it was the depth of the thunder was the issue tonight.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yep.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

But I get what you said. Zay. Oh, ocho. ISO. Can y' all shout out my baby boy Joshua on his graduation today? Proud. Doesn't even the beginning express how I feel? Appreciate warning.

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[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Y Joshua, you graduated. Congratulations bro.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Congrats man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Unbelievable honor. That's unbelievable feat. First step salute. Keep making Pops proud. I hate saying this but wimby look gas tonight. Oh yeah. Because you got to realize he they're making him cover space. Joe. Yeah, think about it.

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He's.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He's, he's trying to protect the paint, then they kick it and then he's trying to get to the corners. You're asking an awful lot and I understand he's 12ft tall, but you're still asking him to do an awful lot to cover them corners from the paint.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

And they keeping the body on his ass too.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, they wear them down.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Find him and put a body on him.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yep.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I still think Uncle Top three amongst tight ends. Thank you for all the hard work you boys put in. No, thank you for watching us. You make our job easy.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yes sir.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

All we do is get to come on here and talk about, you know, things that have happened, talk about a particular sport, try to give you scenarios that maybe something that happened in Joe when Joe was playing. He can. He can. Like certainly. Yeah. Well, I remember this happened in XYZ this is how we handle it. Ocho and I, we try to do that also when it comes to football and try to equate it to other sports. But you guys make it fun. You guys make it worthwhile. Reggie Bush at USC or Adrian Peterson at Oklahoma?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, wow. God damn, that's a good one.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

AD at his. His. His freshman year. But, man, Reggie. Them last two years at USC for Reggie.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Unbelievable.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

That dude was electric.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hey, it was. You think. You think it was? Cuz, you know, he catch up.

[Joe (Co-host)]

He.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He. He.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

He caught out the backfield as well as ran. AP Was more just like just the ball to him.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

A.P.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

was a bail cow back. A.P. was probably. He. What you do? I'm g. I'm g hand it to you or I'm g toss it to you.

[Joe (Co-host)]

One or the other.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

I'm. He gonna do the rest.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, Joe to it.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Oh, I already know it. I ain't never seen nobody come back from an ACL and kick ass like that.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Boy, he was crazy. He would punish you too, Joe.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, you ain't run your ass over. I was dying when the crowd was yelling, flopper. Flopper. SGA Sounded like a crowd at the European games.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

They don't let you bring those vuvuzelas back in the game. No more duty, Ocho.

[Joe (Co-host)]

No, that's. That. That's.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

They.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I forgot. Was it 2014 World Cup? They banned those. Wait, what? When was the World cup in Africa? I forgot what year that was.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You know, I got one.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

What is that?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I got one of them horns that you blow into.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

It's. Hey, when you watch it. When you watch from home. Hey, Chad. What. What year was that World cup with the vuelas? Yeah, they. They. They ban. Those sound like a bunch of bees. When you watch from home.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I got a vuvuzela and I got a didgeridoo. Australian. One of those long wooden things that you blow into.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah. They not letting you bring none of that to no game now.

[Joe (Co-host)]

No, sir.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

No, sir.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hell no.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Prab Ocho versus Prime. Prime, who would be epic? What made The Giants in 1988 feel weird? ISO. Who's your top five? Allstar teammates? Same question for UN. Oo love the show. Well, Oo and Prime, they. They hadn't settled that yet. PR Oo say he gonna get him. Prime say he got his foot too far back. So prime said n. That ain't gonna happen.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, man.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What made the game versus giant 98? That was the first time that we had lost. We had started the season 130 after we had came off the season the year before winning the super bowl. We played the game, the game started at like one o' clock on a Saturday or a mid afternoon game on a Saturday. I know, it just, it just didn't. And the J and the Giants were bad that year. I think they only won five games that year. We wanted the five. It was just, it was just bad. It was just bad all around. And we had. And a matter of fact we were down the whole game against Kansas City. We ended up having to come back from two touchdowns down against Kansas City. I ended up catching like a game winning touchdown with like, with like a minute and 30 seconds left in the game and we ended up beating Kansas City. It was just, it just, it's just weird. Yeah, just a weird ass game.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

My all star teammates, I'll probably say KG Braun D. Wade, I play with mellow and I'm, I'm speaking, you know, Brian D. Wade Mellow because I played with these guys in USA in 2000-2006-2005-2006. So I spent a lot of time with those guys and know we played in several. If I made seven here, y' all know they was in all seven of them. Yeah, hell, so we, we had a, we had a good time. So what's that? Three, four guys? Who else? Probably, I'm probably missing somebody, but I'll probably throw, I throw Paul Pierce in there. Considering the fact that, you know, I, I was somewhat his rookie and to be able to be an all star with him, you know, at that time I thought that was pretty special for me. So yeah, those guys were, they pushed me, man, they made me better.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

What you want? What you want? Quarterbacks? Because I played with my team one year, I had Tom Brady as my teammate. Peyton Manning was my teammate. Elway was my teammate. Marino was my teammate. Bruce Smith was my teammate. Thurman Thomas, Derek Thomas, Rod Woodson, Ed Reed. Not Ed Reed. Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden, Bruce Matthews, Will Shields, Damani Dawson Jr. Say our Cortez Kennedy. Man, I had some hell of an all star teammates. Damn. See oo you went every year but Peyton and what you call him was there Tommy. Peyton and Tom.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Tom. Yeah. Shoot Ray, shoot Ed. Troy Palomalo.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah, TJ went with me. Hey, hey. And that's, that's like a, that's a hell of a feeling, bro, to be amongst the greats, the best to play the sport at that time. And you're a part of that. Like that's a Hell of a feeling, bro. It's a hell of a confidence booster, too.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Let you know you belong, man. What's up, uncle? No, Cho ISO went crazy, but damn, I got pillow softer than check.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, he gotta step it up, bro.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

He gotta.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

He gotta be a little more demonstrative as far as, you know, asserting himself in these games because two, it's like he just kind of floating. For real.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yes.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Ocho ISO, I'm a new fan due to my best friend Roderick. He's a super loyal Nightcap fan. Can y' all give him a 30th birthday shout out and please, I want to surprise him on the rat on that road. Thank you for all the laughs, lessons, and drinks. Absolutely, absolutely. So, Roderick, happy 30th birthday, man. Your best friend, man. He wanted you to.

[Joe (Co-host)]

To you.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Wanted to thank you for introducing him tonight, introducing him to nightcap. And we want to thank you for introducing him to Nightcap. So on your 30th birthday from us, happy 30th birthday. The big three zero. No more 20s for you, bro.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Man, it's a rap.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

It goes frame.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Now, you know what they say in them 30s. Time to get dirty.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I heard Ocho want to lose some money in CeeLo. ISO. I' ma grab that for you.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Come on, come on, come on, playboy. You know I'm at, huh? Make it light on yourself, baby.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Forest City Caller]

Huh?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I'm going into my freshman year at famu. I've had stigmatism since I was a kid. Sometimes it's hard for me to talk to girls. What can I do to fix this?

[Joe (Co-host)]

And you supposed to talk to me? You supposed to ask me that? What you mean? You going to fam you? You know what you got to do?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

What do you gotta do, huh? What do you gotta do?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Look in the mirror. That's where you started. You started in the mirror. Work on what you want to say in the mirror first. Build up the. The confidence. Because it's all about confidence. If you ain't got no confidence, just scrap the whole plan.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't think stigmatism is with I what? Now, he might have a lisp or he might have a speech. It might have a stuttering or a speech impediment, but. Yeah, but okay, just for the sake of art, let's just say he. I'm thinking he wants to say it's hard for him to talk to girls, so therefore I'm assuming that he has something to do with speech.

[Joe (Co-host)]

No, it's hard to talk to girls. Because maybe he's shy, maybe he doesn't have the confidence to do so. A speech doesn't stop you from talking to anybody.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Stigmatism is. I think astigmatism is like one of your eyes is like, it's messed up. Yeah, yeah. I don't.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I mean, hey, well, I gotta stick my eye messed up.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

No, you already just murky. You got glaucoma. Black is one. Walk on my grass. That's your ass. Guys, can we, can. Can you congratulate my daughter Zoe on becoming cheerleader? She made the team on the first try. Thank you, guys. Zoe, congratulations.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Congrats.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

The cheerleading squad. That is a very, very big accomplishment. And we at Nightcap are very, very proud of you. Congratulations, cheerleader.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Can you give Clark flowers tonight on an outstanding W against gsv. Finally addressing the media, clickbait podcasters on her mental health coming back from a year long injury saying, give me grace. Look, she, this is what she gonna have to deal with. And I think she's mentioned, I think she's like, lebron has reached out and they've had a conversation. I don't know if they were gonna have a conversation or they had a conversation how to deal with it. But look, this what comes with it. Since she burst onto the scene her, her junior and senior year at Iowa. This is what it's going to be.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

All the great, you know, and all the greats. Maybe not to the level of what she's having to deal with it.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Right.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Because now we have more social media and so forth and so on, but I think she's handling herself well. Look, everybody ain't gonna be happy with what you do. I mean, I saw what she walked out with Morgan Whelan and you know, he had some, some things to say and you know, it's just.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah,

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I don't know, man. Caitlyn, just keep doing what you do. Keep balling. That's what you, you, you, you. The ball.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Your job, your job is to make your teammates better, put the ball in the basket at a, at a high clip and get the, the, the fever to the playoffs and go far. You know, that's all you control whether people like or dislike you. You cannot control that. Control the variables with which you can control. And that's how hard you play and how good you. How much effort you put into the game. That's all you can control. Whether people like you or not. That shouldn't be any concern of yours. Oh, give, give my shout out to my mom, Tracy and Sis Cameron. All right, Tracy Cameron. Here's a shout out from Nightcap. What y' all do? What y' all do? Could y' all cook? Cause if y' all can cook, crew will come down there and get a nice meal. Fried catfish, man.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

So y' all know about the. More fried catfish? Most spaghetti places. Y' all don't know about that?

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Who though?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Y' all don't know about that? Man, about that.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I know about spaghetti.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Man, please.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I know about spaghetti. Huh? Little meatballs in there, too. Yes, sir.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

And you probably be eating. You'd be going to women's house eating spaghetti, don't you.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I don't go to women's houses. That's bad luck, boy.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Hell, no.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

You let them cook spaghetti for you, you eat it, huh? You're not supposed to eat spaghetti that women cook.

[Joe (Co-host)]

I don't even let women cook for me, Unc.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You know what they say?

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

I know what they say. I know what I don't eat.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey, that's a no. No.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Don't nobody forget it. You want some spaghetti? I make some great spaghetti and lasagna.

[Joe (Co-host)]

No, no, you don't.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Not for me. You want.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, no. Hey, that's never been a prerequisite of mine, Joe. Or having a woman that know how to cook.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Don't. Don't come to me talk about what you can cook and what you could do. I don't care nothing about that. That is not for me.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, cooking, Lord.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You don't want.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

No.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

You don't like no woman to be able to cook.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Look, I'm like, ojo. It's not a prerequisite, but if you can do it, I would graciously accept.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. I ain't. But I ain't necessary. Don't come in here at my dishes.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I'll be. I'll be trying. I got paper. Everything I eat on paper.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Paper coat, paper plate. Paper. Paper cup.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah. I got, like, you know, I get. I get my paper plates from. From Publix. I use Dixie.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Hey, the only thing. Hey, I have a. I have a. I have a thing full of spoon knives and spoons and forks.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Ain't no dishes in there. I so love the show and just want to see if I get. Because my cousin Willie the third, my cousin Willie III, and my aunt Dion, both turning 39. Also a special shout out to my dad Eddie. Also Willie the Third, Dion. Happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday, Cousin Adam and your uncle on the same day.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Damn, 39.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Okay, that'll work. And a special shout out to my dad, Eddie. Dad, what you got going on?

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hey,

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

Eddie. That completes this episode of Nightcap. The Thunder go on to go to in game three. Go on the road, snatch back home court. Thanks to a 123, 108 victory over the San Antonio spurs, they get 76 points. That's right, the OKC Thunder got 76 bench points. Their bench outscored their starters. Jalen Williams had a career high 18 points. Jared McCain had a career high 24 points. And Shay Gill just got it going in the second half.

[Joe (Co-host)]

And.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

And he was sensational. And they win going away 123 to 108. We'll see if the spurs can bounce back. They're going to really need this game for. And they're going to have to play four great quarters of basketball because the one thing about the set, about the, the Thunder, they won't go away. They'll keep coming. They'll keep coming. They'll keep coming. And you got to play your best basketball for 48 minutes. And sometimes it might take 58 minutes as it did in game one to get this victory. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And there's the guy that's wearing the king hat. That's him. The Liberty City legend. The bingo ring of fame.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

A fake ass king.

[Joe (Co-host)]

Hello.

[Joe's Co-host (possibly 'Joe' or 'Human Jukebox')]

Come on, man. Damn.

[Ocho (Joe Johnson)]

He's a former all pro and a promo player. That is Chad Ojo Seco Johnson, the smooth shooting shooting guard. Seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and you continue support those looking to purchase a bottle of Shave by Laportier. Head over to laportierconjac.com and purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market and it drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for the hashtag Sports Award the 2026 in four categories. Best Brand partnership for Nightcap Outside in row Best podcast, Best athlete Podcast, Best use of live video. That link is pinned in the chat so please go vote for Nightcap. You can get to vote as many times as you like. I think the voting end next Friday, right? Okay, we'll get back to you. We'll let you know when the voting but keep voting until we tell you to stop. Thank you guys for another for joining us for Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm up. That is oo. That's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow after game three. Calves versus the Knicks.

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