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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, or osa, in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don'tsleep on osa.com this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company. Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.
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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and Sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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Josh Hart said tonight that the Knicks knew the spurs were food after seeing Wemby cry when they beat okc. Wow. Hey, you can't show that kind of emotion. I think a few other basketball players said the job is not done. The job is not over. The task at hand, the ultimate goal is to win a championship. You know that, that Larry o'.
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Brien.
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So to be crying because you're going to the final.
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I don't know if, I don't know if it was crying because they were going to the finals. I think he was crying because they beat okc. Knowing how tough and challenging it was, knowing that they were the, the, the, the champions from last year. I think that's why.
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Yeah. And they got the MVP on the roster.
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There you go. Yeah. And Wimby probably feels slighted that he didn't win mvp. Yeah.
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Yes.
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Right.
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He said he used that as motivation. Yeah.
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So those emotions came out.
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Yeah, I understand, but.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, but at 22ocho. I mean, it's tough, bro. I mean, it's probably other cats who could have held them emotions in, but I just felt like they kind of took over. Like I heard him say in many press conferences, like he didn't really. He can't explain it. You know what I mean? Like, it's just something he dreamed of. You know what I mean? And I think that's the, that, that's the, the great part about sports, bro, because we all grew up, whether it's y' all catching touchdowns, whether it's me counting the shot clock down, making the game winning shot, and then for you to actually be in that situation and actually come through.
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Right.
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Yeah, I think it's very emotional. I think it's very emotional.
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Yeah, I got it. And then he. 22, we don't know. I'm sure he understood that, like, wow. Because I mean, somebody, some people had them in the play in tournament, some people had them, you know, fifth or sixth seed. And here they are, the number two seed and they took down the reigning defending champ with the reigning defending in MVP on the roster. They did that. I, I don't hold nobody's emotions against them because everybody does it differently. And I think the thing is that when you try to put obviously how you do certain things, you know, we all know how you do certain things, how you talk about your teammates and how you carry on. That's very, very important. But everybody deals with success differently.
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Differently.
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Yeah.
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And some people, you know, like, hey, like, you know, some people, you know, cry. Like Jordan. Yeah. When Jordan won. And then he realized, like, you know what, man? And maybe it was because his father wasn't there to see himself.
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He was on Father's Day.
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And you see. And you see Kobe. Kobe got the trophy in his hand, and he's just looking at it. And that was around the time that he and his mom, them had stopped speaking. And all the things, all the thoughts that's going through his mind. Some people, like, man, please, this is the time of my life. Hey, I can't worry about who, not here. Right? Everybody handles a situation differently.
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Yeah. I mean. I mean, Ocho, when you look at it, Jordan won a championship on Father's Day. You know what I mean? I think that's why it was so emotional for him. And you just seen him break down ball and cry. Hell, I probably would have been the same way. I ain't gonna lie to you. If I was that close to my pops, bro. And he got murdered, man, I've been the same. We won on Father's Day. Come on, bro.
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I mean. I mean, death is really never easy. That's the thing that, I mean, you have to really respect and love about death. If there's anything. Because it doesn't discriminate. Nope. It take young, it'll take old, it'll take rich, it'll take poor. It does not discriminate. Just know when you have that appointment, you can schedule it and dep. You know, and people, you. There's no way to prepare for. It's like, well, how do you prepare for it? We all know we're going to die. It didn't make it any easier when it actually happens to your loved ones that you left behind. But it's the fashion in which Jordan, father.
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Yeah.
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Succumb so sudden, man. 85, 90 years old, man. He had a great life, man. You can remember, but tragically, how somebody senselessly took that man's life. And you think, I'm Michael Jordan. I'm supposed to be able to insulate stuff like that. I should be able to insulate my family from that foolishness. There are some things I can't control. Cancer, I can't control, kidney disease, liver disease, things like that. There are certain things I don't care. They ain't get Enough money. But there are certain things I feel like my money, my fame, I should be able to insulate.
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Absolutely.
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Don't know. And probably when whoever did this, you know, they. I'm not sure they even knew who it was, right? Until probably went to his wallet and took it. And they probably still didn't put two and two together. It was. It was sad. And I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe. Because I. I don't. I didn't really know anybody famous that father or mother had gotten like this. So what are we looking at? So what? Remember it came on the news. Father of Michael Jordan killed. What first thing would you think? A traffic accident? Not murdered. Damn, man. And because he looked just like his dad and how close they were. Think about it. Every time Jordan was something, he was right there. Now all of a sudden, I win three Pete, finish off a three P. Hadn't been done. 60, 67 Celtics. Yeah.
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Hey, man, I. I think in certain situations, even when you look at Michael Jordan at 6, 6, if you look at his parents, Uncle Ocho, hell, you probably could even go through his whole family tree. He probably ain't got nobody over six foot six, two. Cause you know what I mean? So I feel like, you know, in situations like that, man, it's almost destined, bro. Because the athletic that his brother Larry had and MJ had, like, his brother probably was more athletic than him, but he was just a lot smaller, you know what I mean? Versus MJ getting six' six. Now he got this 45, I think they said, even 50 inch vertical. I mean, man, come on, bro.
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And his desire to work ethic.
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And when you done took as many ass whoopings as he took from his brother coming up, got the kind of like. Kind of like, oh, you take all them ass whoopings, you be ready. You be ready to dis them out when you get.
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Hey, hey, let me get. Hey, let me get somebody that's my size. I can whip them.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, he, He. He told a story that. What do you say about basketball? The reason why he loved basketball so much is because it's loyal. Because he knows what he. What he gives to it. It'll give it back to him. Yeah, yeah. I just, I just love to hear greats. Serena and Venus and Mike and Tom Brady. I love them because, you know, Ocho, weird, I say how great this is and it's lonely and everything. They don't want to hear from us. But we talk about the upper. This is the, like the wealthy. Like, once you get the past like that 50 billion. There's only a certain level of people. Well, when you get to that Jordan and Serena and Tiger and Jordan level, Tom Brady, Tiger Wood. There's only a certain level of people that have ever reached that crescendo. And to hear them talk about what it takes and the selfishness that is involved.
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Yeah.
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Then you get an appreciation.
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Yes.
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Just a little bit of success that I had. I knew what it took. What nearly as great as those and never professed to be, but I knew in order. It is lonely and it is very mundane.
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Yep.
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And unless. And who can join what. What's the female equivalent of Jordan marrying someone that would actually know what he's going through.
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Hey.
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Because Serena, if she's 60 and she's a 23 time grand slam champ, she would know that. That's why movie stars normally marry other movie stars because they know what it's like to live that life. They know what it's like to jump in and out of character.
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Yeah.
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You see.
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Hey, and the 1, they. The 1 percenters of the 1 percenters.
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Yes, they. The zero point, whatever that point is, like 99.9. They're that 000,000, like 5501. You know what's funny? The numbers you just said, you know, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's another level above them too.
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Yeah. What's another level above them? Ojo. Yeah.
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What?
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The elites. God, when you talk, when you talk Jordan and Serena and Tiger Woods.
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God,
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you start looking at the stuffy graphs and things like that, man. I mean. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, think about me, the work that I mean. And everybody hear about George work ethic, how legendary was. You hear about Kobe, you hear about Serena and all the, the balls that they hit and their dad teaching them. He watching VCR tapes and teaching them how to swing and how to hit the backhand. And you hear about all the work ethic. And you hear about LeBron getting to the gym five hours early and getting a workout in and getting shots up and to do that. And you think about this. You do all of that with no guarantee you ever gonna reach the level that you think you are. You do it on a hope that this is gonna pay off. And I tell people all the time, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything. But without it, you got no chance at all. You see, I read a quote a couple of days ago, guys, they said two people that are smart could never fall in love One of them has to be an idiot to fall in love. See the fall in love. See the fall in love with a sport or to spawn. Fall in love with something that you cannot control.
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Right.
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You gotta be an idiot.
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Damn.
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Hold on. I'm done chat.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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Thank you for joining us tonight for another episode. Hey, hold on. Hey, hey. That's a good one.
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Write that down.
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You got it. Because think about it, Joe. Think about all the work that you put in with no guarantee. I go to work every day. What about guaranteed I will get a salary at the end of the work period, work week. I. You work from the time you was 9, 10 years of age. All Titus, get out. As a matter of fact, get out. Hey, hey, out. You work for the time you was 9 or 10 years old. So you work 12, 12 years with no pay. Basketball didn't pay you a dime. Ocho. You worked from the time you was 10, 11 years old and football never paid you a dime. You worked on a hope that everything that I put in this would pay off one day.
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Yes.
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There are many people that put just as much time, just as much effort in it, and it didn't pay off. Hold on. You got to bring me back. Two smart people can't fall in love, Ocho. One of them. If you fall in love, one of them have to be an idiot. You've got to be an idiot to fall in love. Smart people can't fall in love.
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Hey, the moral of the story is we all some damn idiots, okay?
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Yes, yes, yes. To fall in love with. And, and. And Jordan said it. Go back and look at some of his quotes. He said, I fell in love with this because it's the only thing I know would love me back.
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I gotta use that one.
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You do. It's. It's more than an obsession. It's more than a commitment. It's a singular focus. Because people say, well, playing A and plan B. What's your plan B? Well, if plan B was going with. So probably it would be playing A. I got no plan B. I got a plan A.
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It's a lot of. That's a lot of cats out here too.
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Yeah. To fall in love, someone has to be an idiot to fall in love with something. Two smart people can't fall in love, Ocho. One of them has to be an idiot. So that's. That's how it works. That is. That's. That's. That's the only way it can work. Faith. That's A good. The Bible teaches us that you're supposed to have faith. Faith is the unknown. But believing, you see, man says, show me. I'll trust you. God say, trust me, I'll show you. You see the difference? Yeah. One what, man? Oh, I would trust. Okay. Blindly trust. I say you put your faith in. Still stuck on that first one. I knew. I knew. I knew you was gonna love that one. I like that. I like that one, bro. Josh. Oh, man. All right, Wimby. You let him see your weakness. You gotta button up the big. The. The new season of the big three kicks off tomorrow. Game one, you got the Detroit Amps versus the DMV trilogy. Game two, you got the LA Riots versus the Miami. The 305s. Game three, you got the Houston. What are they called? The air hands. The rig. Hands. Rig. So I guess they off the. Off the go. Yeah, yeah, they're working the rig. Okay. And then you got the Chicago Triplets in Game four, you got the Dallas Power versus the Boston Ball halls.
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Yeah. Hey, the league, it's gonna be fun this year, you know, Great, great parody throughout the league, obviously. 305 coming off of winning the title. You know, having Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley on the team, bro. I'm not gonna lie to y'. All. Those two guys alone, they just. They a handful, you know what I mean? So you gotta have. Not only do you gotta have some dogs, but you gotta have some guys who can put that ball in the hole, man. Because in the Big three, we don't have a clock. We're not playing against no damn clock. It's the first one to 50, you know what I mean? So you gotta be able to get a bucket. And the game gets hard when you get 40 points. When you get 40 points, Uncle Ocho,
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everybody lock in for every bucket.
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Cause I'm gonna tell you something. The Big Three is far way more physical than the NBA, bro. They led a lot.
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Cause you played half court, they let
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you get away with so much. Like, it's fouls that don't get called, and you just have to play through it. And I respect it all because
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as
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you have great defenders, you can't call everything bro. This three on three, you know what I mean? It ain't much help. So at some point, if you got guys who causes mismatches, you have to give up something, you know what I mean? Whether it's jump shots, whether it's mid ranges, you don't want to give up layups. But I think the league is getting Better, bro. They've extended the games. I think it's like. I think it's like 14, 15 games now. It used to be only like 10 games, you know what I mean? So it's. It's starting to, you know, spread out a little bit. And. And. And. And I think they. They cut the teams down, too, where it used to be like, 14, 15 teams. I think it's only like eight.
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Eight. Is it eight now? Because they got. They got. If right now it says 8. Is everybody playing tomorrow?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took it down to eight. So when you take it down to eight, obviously you put a lot of talent on one team. So that's why I say the parody is so good. So I think it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch. Obviously, the team that I was on, the Detroit Amps, I'm be honest with y'. All. Even last year, I felt we had the better team, but we were hampered by injuries, obviously. And this year I felt we had an even better team, but unfortunately, I can't play. So, you know, hopefully those guys.
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Hey, hey, hey. What the first game?
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What's the first game in.
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You.
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You going.
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You going to any game?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the second week is in Detroit. I'm gonna try to make it out to Detroit. Actually got two weeks in Detroit, but I'm gonna try to make a few of them. I'm trying to make a few. I might even come out there when we. When they come to Miami, Ocho.
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Okay, I'm going with you.
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I bet I'm have to pull up out there for sure.
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LA versus Miami. You know, we.
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We good. We good. We good.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. LA versus Miami. Michael Beasley versus Dwight Howard, round two. Tune in tomorrow, June 20th, 12:30pm Pacific Time on CBS and BET.
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Amen. I ain't gonna lie, boy. It hurt me that I can't play. I enjoy playing on that stage, Uncle Ocho, that cbs, that platform that Cube and Clyde Drexler and Cube partner Jeff has, you know, granted us older guys who still love to play the game, still in great shape. So to watch it, I ain't gonna lie. It's gonna hurt to watch, but I'm gonna be tuned in.
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Ocho, we know you gotta get out of here, so go ahead and get to your appointment and we'll catch you on Sunday. Hey, I love y' all, boys, man. Y' all enjoy, man. I'm gonna see y' all tomorrow, right? Yep. No, Sunday. Okay.
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Okay.
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All Right.
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Love.
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Peace. Yo, Joe. According to athletics Sam Amick, the Pistons are expected to be a suitor for the Lakers guard Austin Reaves. Joe, do you like Austin Reeves in Detroit with Cade? If the Lakers don't make a.
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Hey, that's nice. Hey, think about this. As great as Detroit was this year, they struggled in the postseason due to lack of scoring and the way ar.
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Cause if what you call them didn't get it, they didn't get it. If Cade didn't get it.
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Yeah. So it's hard because he's got to be special every night just for y' all to even be in damn games. So you go get a guy. I like ar.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I wouldn't mind seeing AR next to Cade. I wouldn't mind seeing Kyrie Irving next to Cade. Yeah, hell, I wouldn't mind if. If Houston got off of Kevin Durant and he went over there. It's the plethora of guys who I think could fit next to K. Obviously, AR is probably best suited because he's a free agent. I think, man, I think it'll be a match made him because they are great defensive team. So you. You can hire AR to some degree. You know what I mean?
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Yes, yes. You got Thompson. Cade can play defense. They got some guys that can play. The question is, Cade, ar, do you keep Tobias? Obviously, you keeping Thompson, but the Thompson twins, bro, y' all need to get in the gym and just work on shooting ball. Especially Aur. That. That's. That's for.
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You got. They got to. You got. Well, nowadays playing in the league, uncle, you got to be able to score that ball. You got to be able to shoot at least. Hell, because if you can't shoot, then you're a liability out there.
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More trade talk, Joe. More intel from Sam Amic. He said the Celtics have an interest in Troy Murphy, the third, Trey Murphy iii. If they can't land Giannis, rival execs believe the Bucks are underwhelmed by offers for Giannis. Grizzlies are hopeful that John Morant would be some teams plan B. After Giannis is moved, Heat have been known to have serious interest. Kawhi Leonard is also the Heat's plan B, but no one around the league knows if he's available. Joe is hard. I know you got to trade Giannis. I know that every other team, 29 other teams, know Milwaukee's got to get off Giannis. They also know he's not signing an extension. With that being said, there are other teams that say we might want him, but he wouldn't sign an extension with us, and we'd be foolish to give you draft compensation and only have him for as a rental. So there's probably what, three or four teams that Giannis, maybe the Celtics, probably the Heat, maybe the Warriors.
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I only, I, I only see those first two teams, the Heat, the Heat and the Celtics. Because if I'm Giannis, honestly, I really don't, I really don't want to go messing around in that Western Conference.
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Man, stay.
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Hey, hey, you stay in the east, you team, if you can go, if you can get to Boston, if you can get to Miami, you can basically be a top three team in the Eastern Conference and potentially come out, you know, because if he can stay healthy, obviously we know that. We know how that calf. We know how that calf is, so. But if he can stay healthy and be putting up them godly numbers that he been putting up the past some odd years, man, please, whatever team he go to, they gonna be favored in the east, right?
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So it's gonna be.
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We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.
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Want the full story?
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Take a listen. Hetty. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
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I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything. Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know
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about him, but incredible innovator, right? She says he's a, quote, very strange man, but they do get along really well.
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Give us examples.
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I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie Jean King.
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Goodbye.
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I turned off news altogether.
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I hate to say it, but I
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don't trust much of anything.
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It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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People.
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We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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NBC News brings you clear reporting.
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Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. Gonna be very interesting to see how this thing plays out. The problem is is that everybody been talking about this Giannis thing for about two years, Joe. So it's not. It wasn't like a luca that it just happened. Everybody's been talking about this. Giannis bears some culpability because, you know, the coach, the coach that he got, Bud got gone. J Kid got gone, Adrian Griffith got gone. Holiday got gone. There are guys that obviously Middleton started to get injured a little bit more. So he wasn't as reliable as he needed to be. But he has to bear some culpability in this. And I think the thing is, is that he wants all the perks that comes along with being a superstar, but none of the blame as far as responsibility that comes along with being a superstar. Because he saw the backlash that LeBron gets. He saw the backlash that KD gets. He don't want that. At the end of the day, Giannis really wants. That's why he pushes. Well, it's going to be my wife's decision. It's going to be my agent's decision. It's going to be everybody decision except the guy that's going to have to play in the new location.
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Hello. The one who gotta deal with it. It's just. Hey, hey, it's your decision. Hey, I thought the Bucks done everything right for Giannis. Hell, they had both his brothers on the damn team, huh? What more you want, you know you got?
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And neither one of them could play dead on the Western.
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So I think we all know Giannis is gonna get traded. But like you said, man, ain't no team willing to give up damn near half their roster for him. They ain't doing that because they know you got to get up off of
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them and you got to get up off them. And what have we seen over the last couple of years? The injuries are starting to come with great regularity and they're starting to keep him out for extended periods of time. Yeah, that's fact. That ain't conjecture. That's not innuendo. That's not speculation. It's documentary.
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He ain't getting no younger. He ain't getting no younger, but it's. Hey, it's a plethora of guys out there. I want to see where Ja's gonna go. I want to see Ja get back to being Ja. You know, he got some work he got to do. Hopefully he been in the lab, unk. Because that three point percentage, if you shooting 20 or 15% from the three,
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not from the three.
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I know, Doc. Cause that should meeting potatoes, you know, from the point guard spot. And if you can't shoot, bro, I'm going under every pick and I'm going
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to make you every last one of them. Because I know I'm keeping your ass out the paint. And if you look at it, Joe, look at his paint points, they've come down every year. Yeah. Now if he can't get to the paint, he can't shoot the three. Ain't like he got. The minute his. He lives.
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He does, bro.
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He's Derrick Rose 2.0.
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Yeah. And.
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And in order for him to, to expand that game, he. Well, you know what he needs?
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Well, the thing is, it's, it's kind of carbon copy with Giannis. Hell, he, he been hurt, he been hurt the majority of the time, you know what I mean? And it just, it hurts your value, bro. When teams take a look, they like damn the past two, three years, you know, Hell, I don't even know if he done played 60 games, you know what I mean? So it's some challenges that come with, you know, guys like Ja and Giannis, but man, look, that, that's a risk and that's a chance that I'll be willing to take.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, the thing is though, Joe, I mean Giannis is going to want a long term extension, Joe. He's gonna want four years at, at probably 60 years. What is, what is the most Giannis can sign for? I mean theoretically he could wait until January, I mean, wait till the trade, the all started trade thing and then sign the extension. But I don't know if anybody's willing to chance that.
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Hell, he, if he get traded, he's gonna want a contract immediately. Yeah, he ain't gonna be willing to risk that like he's.
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He. Huh. Yeah, he's eligible for force of 275 with the Bucks. That ain't happening. Cause I don't see the books doing a signing trade. I don't see them appeasing in that aspect. Now you going, you going over there where you wanted to go.
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Yeah, they ain't going to do that. They ain't going to do that because hell, you're going to have to, you're going to have to give up half your team if you, if you do a sign and trade like that. If you're, if you're a team that's getting into it. But we know he going to go somewhere, man. I don't know where. But I'm looking forward to this draft. I'm looking forward to what's going to happen during the draft. After the draft, free agency, you know, I want to see what. I want to see if the Lakers going to be able to bring Brian back.
C
Yeah, we're gonna find out here something. I mean, things gonna start. This draft is Tuesday. Things gonna start percolating here shortly after that, Joe.
D
Or, or before that.
C
Oh, okay.
D
Yeah, it's. Hey, it's some top guys, man, because I think, I think we know Yan is gonna be gone. I'm almost.
C
Yeah, for sure. We been united, y'.
D
All. This was gonna be gone and Ja be right next to him. You got to get him out of Memphis, bro. Got to get him out of there.
C
No, guys, we don't bring up devout. It's just like there's a reason why all of a sudden there came with carfax on cars. People have been in a damn demolition derby and they want you to pay full price for the damn car and that thing. They've been in the demolition derby. That's why they got car facts. The problem is that with an NBA player, I get a chance to see him, that he missed 30 games. He missed 40 games. He missed half a season. He missed an entire season. What do you mean, bring up injuries? That's a part of it.
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Yep, it is.
C
You paying full price. Tell me the situation. A house that got flood damage, you not paying full price for it. A car that's been in an accident, you're not paying full price for it. Come on, chat. Ain't no bringing up no injuries. It's facts.
D
Yeah, injury prone guys, bro.
C
Yes, it is. It's facts. Look at the. Look at John, the last three years, has job been injured? Yes or no? It's a simple question. Yes or no? The last three years, have Giannis missed time with injury? It's a simple yes or no.
D
And. And when you look at it, you gotta look around our league, bro. A lot of the top guys in the NBA, they've been getting hurt and
C
that.
D
Catastrophic. Yeah. Because the game is played at a much faster pace than it's probably ever been played at.
C
I believe it's get. It's getting back to where it was in the 80s, Joe. And I know you were just a kid, but Joe. Games were 158, 163, 170 to 150, 145, 140. It was at that pace for a period of time. And then the NBA, for whatever reason, like, well, we don't like these type of games. And then they went totally the other way. Now you had 78, 78, 75, 72, 69 ball game. And they're like, man, this stinks. And they went, kind of went. And now they're just like. You see the pace routinely. You're in the 120. Easy, easy.
D
That's light. Yeah. So it's going to be some major moves made, bro, here in the next few days.
C
I think. I think you have. I think teams realize they have to make these moves. I think the thing is, I think we're kind of done with the super teams, Joe.
D
What you mean, like three?
C
Yeah. I don't think you'll ever see LeBron D. Wade. I don't think you're ever going to see KD and Steph in situation like that.
D
I don't think you're going to have to.
C
But I think, I do think the thing is, though, I think these owners are going to try to put pressure on some of these guys to do what Brunson did. And I don't think these players are going to do it. No, everybody, I don't see the. I don't see players taking 113 million dollar haircut. No, I might take a 2, 3 million dollars haircut a year, so I might take a 20 million dollars haircut.
D
113 jobs, ain't nobody doing now, bro.
C
I said give me a. I say, bro, give me a skin fade, not a Kojak. You cut all my damn hair off. Hey, hey, come on.
D
And playing in New York, too.
C
Yeah.
D
Ain't nobody, ain't nobody doing that, bro. Kudos to Brunson for that. But a lot of these cats.
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Yes.
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Coming up. Dang, man, listen. And if you don't draft well, it's going to be hard to compete, man, because it's like you say, it's going to be hard to get these free agents guys to lead these teams knowing that they can get that extra year already on the team that they own. It's going to be some challenges that will come with this.
C
Yeah, man. I go to the barbershop, I say, hey, give me that number five. Oh, Joe, you know, you know, you go to the barbershop, they got like 30 pictures up there. Yeah, what you. Let me get that number five. Hey, that joker will spin you around and you look in the mirror like, what the hell is this? You don't cut all my damn hair off. Bang, bang, bang. Like, my granddaddy went to the barbershop, he done fell asleep up there, and
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the barber put his mustache on, man.
C
Man, who in the hell told you to cut my.
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Yeah,
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well, I remember them days. Oh, back then, haircut woman by five dollars, man.
C
Joe, I remember haircut was a dollar dollar bill. My grandma, my grandpa. Because once my grandpa, my grandpa used to always take us to the barbershop. There was a guy named Bobby Lee Wilkins used to cut our hair. But the guy that cut our hair the most was a, a, a pastor that came down on. He come down late Friday, but normally Saturday, and, and, and he, Reverend Green, he would cut out here. Me and my brother, $3. Papa would give us give gift Spanky the money, and he would go do what he got to do. Cuz, normally, cuz, you know, back then you, hey, how many? I'm next. And so you just sit outside and then the bar get you. And then people started lying. Well, I was here first, and then I was here, and then you started having to take a ticket, and then they started taking appointments. So I remember like a dollar fifty was a haircut. And then when I got to college, you know, your teammates cut your hair then. Hey, $2 dollar haircut, you know, hey, they weren't no professional, but, hey, you ain't lying.
D
I had a teammate, my partner, he used to cut out here in college. We used to pay him about $20 a cut.
C
Yeah, $20.
D
You paid $20 a cut?
C
Oh, no, Joe, man. Hey, man, we played $2. 4.
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$3 y' all getting. No, that man can't give you number.
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The bowl, ain't it? Oh, no, no, no. Who come out here? Mud? Dude named Wesley McGriff. We call him Mud Rough House. Rough House. Still a barber to this day. And Squirrel, uh, the other receiver, uh, and Coop, we had a little guy named Cooper. They cut hair. Nah, I. I don't remember. In college, I ain't never played. I ain't never paid more than like
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three, four dollars, man, please. Yeah, hey, they started. They were starting to go up by then, man.
C
But you gotta realize, yo, that was amazing. How much. How much was $3 in 1986-1989? That's probably about 15, 20 in today's.
D
Yeah, yeah.
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No haircut. And then a dude named Sammy Murphy, or sometimes my grandpa. Well, my grandfather started taking us to with the dude that cut his. Cut his mustache off. He started taking us to class to get out here because Sammy Murphy used to go down here 1986-89. Yeah, okay. It was three dollar worth. Eight dollars. Joe. No, I. I ain't pay that a. But y'. All. But I'm talking about. Man, it wasn't nobody paying. No, man, I wish I might pay $10 for a damn haircut from somebody ain't got no license. Man, you better take that $3. Get out my dad.
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Yeah, hey, hey, hey. I ain't.
C
But.
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But my man's could cut, though. He used to use the blade, everything back then.
C
Yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact, say, bro. Hey, I go, hey. Cause Whoppers back then, Joe, you get to have a special and whopper some days that you get a. A Whopper for 99 cent. Hey, bro, I get you a whopping the fries and soda. You can.
D
Hey, you could go to Windows and get that 99 cent. Double stack, baby. Hey, hey. Yeah, I was in there like, hey, I had a little hookup at Wendy's. I go to that. Give me a couple of them 99 stack. Double them double stacks with some, with some nuggets.
C
Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Hey, this because I had to hook up at McDonald's.
D
We.
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Cause I, I. We could walk to Burger King because Burger King was at the end of the campus. So we could walk down there. Whopper. You know, a Whopper with cheese was 99 cent, but I had to hook up at McDonald's. St. Hillary. Yeah, thank you. I go get two Big Macs, a 20 piece nugget, super size fries, super size drink, two apple pie.
D
Oh, yeah, boy, you, you.
C
Hey, look, every Friday. Ain't miss a Friday. And then I got in good with her manager and her manager would look it up.
D
Yeah. Hey, hey. Next door, next door to the Wendy's was a Sonic. And I had to hook up that Sonic, go to get that big grape slush. Yeah, yeah, see, we got, we had
C
the, the slushy at circle.
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Yeah.
C
Okay, y' all got circles.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
Titus back, he'd come in here to start some bull jive.
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Yeah.
C
Oh, but, but those were, those were the times. And then, you know, we get that, we get that work study money. Hey, we go and me and the guys, we go to Ryan's. Hey, all you can eat buffet them wings, that Mac and cheese and them but that bread with that honey bottle cut up, boy, they know they hate. Hey, hey.
D
You leave a bit of that fat full.
C
What? Because like in, in spring we have spring ball. So every Saturday that's what we would do. Take a shower. Hey, we go. Hey, we go to the ride, It'd be about 10, 15 of us.
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I'm talking about.
C
Hey, hey, if you lay down. Come on, come on. Because I know you.
D
Yeah.
C
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
D
The dessert at them buffet boy used to be off the chain in a. Man.
C
Oh, yeah, man, they got chocolate chip. They got. I'm not, I'm not a brownies guy, though, Joe. I'm not a brownies guy. But you know they got that soft serve ice cream. Chocolate, strawberry, vanilla. Yeah, yeah, they got. They got that and then they had that. Then they added squirrel.
D
You go crazy. Yeah, look,
C
bad show. I know exactly what you thought about.
D
Hey, I swear I know what you talking about.
C
Hey. Oh, do they Have. Do they still have rhymes? Anybody know if they still have rhymes available somewhere? I need to go to. Ryan.
D
Man, we had a. I think it used to be called Bonanza when I was.
C
Okay, yeah, that was a TV show. You remember? Bananas used to come on. Well, Horse. Cartwright. Joe Cartwright. Big.
D
I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
C
There was a. There was a. A western called Bonanza. And they. The ranch was called upon.
D
Okay?
C
Big Ben was the dad.
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Hoss.
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Little Joe. Little Joe was Michael London, who also starred in the Prairie, Okay? He was the dad in Little House on the Prairie. There ain't no remote rhymes. Damn.
D
Yeah, I think that.
C
I think they got. I still think they got Country Buffet. What about Country Buffet?
D
Wait, me. Hey, me and my mama, we hit up. We hit that. We hit that buffet up, boy, like, it wasn't nothing, man.
C
I. Joe, I ain't even know what a buffet was. I didn't know what a buffet was until my, like, my freshman year. My freshman sophomore year in high school. Coach told us, say, hey, if we. If y' all run good down here, we in Savannah. Say, if y' all run good, gonna take y' all to a buffet. Like, man, what's a buffet? Ain't nobody know, man. I don't know. Hey, he said he gonna take us out to eat so good, man. We went down there, tore it up. Joe, we coming first place. We going to eat. We go. We get first place. So we go to this place. Coach hall, he pay and we go. So all I see all this food, I see chicken. I see pork chop, green beans, Mac and cheese, rice roll. I see all this stuff. So I'm just looking around. I said, man, what we do? Somebody said, man, I think you just go around and you can get whatever you want. I say, huh? So we can get. We can get whatever we want. They're like, yeah, I think that's. I think that's what a buffet is. I think you just get whatever you want. Lady walked by. I said. I said, ma', am, I would like. She said, no, it's.
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Help yourself.
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You get whatever.
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Oh, you could have.
C
Now you don't. And we ain't never been to no buffet in first place. So. Hey, Joe, that fried chicken. So we got on our tracksuits. I got. I got fried chicken. I put fried chicken in my pocket. Hey, I'm taking. I'm wrapping. Cook it up. And paper towel and tissue and putting in my pockets. So Coach hall see us. He don't say nothing. We done ate a Belly for we done. I'm stuffed, Joe. I'm talking about I'm stuffed. I'm stuffed to. I said, lord have mercy. We get on the bus Coach hall get on, get on the. The mic. Hey, suckers, it's all you can eat. Not all you can even take out. Man, I saw that chicken up there. I saw all that food up there. I said, man, I'm taking some of this stuff on to my grandma sister. Man, y' all must be think, I ain't gonna take nothing out of here.
D
Ain't nothing like that buffet, boy. I'm talking about. I'm talking about. You eat till your stomach hurt. Yeah, you do eat to your stomach hurt.
C
Yeah, yeah. And you like, hey, Isaac, Hey. My girl used to always say, boy, and it is you absolutely right, Granny. I will eat. I will eat. I'm you. I. I made myself sick.
D
Yeah,
C
I ain't never seen that much food before, unless it's at a church. And then, you know, you don't fix your own plate. The old ladies fix your plate at the church and they ain't going to give you all that stuff, you know, hey, you might get a two piece, you know, a wing and a short thigh. You know, you might get a two piece of chicken. You get some black eyed peas, some Mac and cheese, some greens and. And. And a slice of bread and some cornbread that they made it. That's it. Man, I see all them butter rolls up there, all that stuff. I said, man, yeah.
D
Hey, hey, by the time you get the dessert, you already full.
C
But for it, I'm stuff. I'm just eating dessert. Just. Cause I would just say I ate some dessert. I ain't got no more room to put nothing. That's how I go. That's how I go. Yeah, man, but I had, you know, had, had teammate. They could go throw up and then come out, eat some more, man.
D
Come on. No, that's too much. That's too much, man.
C
I couldn't do that. We. They used to have Pizza Pizza Hut, used to be the thing on Tuesday night. They have a buffet of pizza. All you can eat pizza probably was like 5.99, 6.99. So, you know, they have all the pizza out there. I've always been a very simple. Just give me ground beef, cheese.
D
Yeah, I'm good.
C
I ain't really, you know, I'll eat pepperoni here and there now, but I ain't all that pineapple, all that other stuff, the, the black olives and the green peppers, all onions.
D
I Don't want that on the pizza.
C
Yeah, me. Me and two of my teammates, man. Joe, I think I ate like 18 slices. Damn thin slices of pizza. Yeah, and then I had. We had a. I had a homeboy named Big Willie. Big Willie, probably he was a freshman like me. Big Willie, probably about six fold. Probably about 340. Man. Big Will ate like 22 slices. He ate spaghetti. He ate.
D
Looks that man didn't throw up, man.
C
That joke is an eight. No, man, look here. That joker losing that belt. Hey, I think I made the mistake. Oh, Joe. Is that I was drinking too much. Cause, you know, I like. I like to drink, eat, drink. He just ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate. He ate like 10 slices before he had a little sip.
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Oh, no, I couldn't do that. Oh, no, no, no.
C
I don't want. No, I just want ground beef. I like. I said I'll eat a little pepperoni now, but I just want ground beef. I'll give me double ground. Be a hamburger, whatever they call it. And cheese. I'm good. I used to do a little bacon here and there, but I'm simple. I don't want no pineapples. I don't want no anchovies. I don't want no olives. I don't want no. No onions. I don't want no pineapples. I want none of that.
D
Hey, hey, give me. Get. Give me that deep dish meat lovers pause. I'm. I'm going to.
C
Oh, Joe, that's that thing.
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I'm going to town.
C
You ain't gonna eat one slice.
D
Oh, no, you give me one. When I. Hey, when I ain't got nothing in my system.
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Sh.
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I get a few slices. Down, boy.
C
Hey, see, that's. See, see, that's that. See, you order deep dish and you eat a couple slices. That's that high. That's that high, homie.
D
When they crust. When they crust. Hitting right. It's real crunchy. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm going in. I ain't gonna lie to you. Yes.
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According to Mark Stein, Joe, multiple draft experts legitimately believe Wizards could take Darren Peterson over AJ debonza at number one.
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Wow. I don't see that. I don't know where the report is coming from, but I mean, just when you. When you look at the makeup, hell, six, nine. You can't teach height, okay? Now, if you got the height and you got some game to go with it, it's just hard for me to believe that the Wizards is going to pass up on AJ DeBonso. Bro, if that's hard for me to believe, that's hard. Now I know, I know the kid out of Kansas, Darren Peterson, I know he a hell of a talent, he can play, but boy, listen, I. They both great talents, but if I had to pick one, I'm going AJ1.
C
Bro, I agree with you. Here are some of the 10 worst draft mistakes in NBA history. The Portland Trailblazers pass on Michael Jordan to select Sam Bowie. The Royals passed on Bill Russell. Minnesota take two point guards, Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn at five and six and pass Curry. The Blazers take Greg Oden over Kevin Durant. The Pistons passed on took Darko Milichick and they passed on Willow Anthony, Chris Bosh and D. Wade. The Suns and the Kings they passed on Luka Doncic. The Sonic traded Scottie Pippins for what's the guy. He was from Virginia, that's who they traded him for Odin Polynese. Ah, man. The Blazers take LaRue Martin over Bob McAdoo. The Grizzlies take Hashim Thalit over James Harden. And I remember this. The warriors traded Robert Parrish, the number three pick for Kevin McHale to the Celtics for number one, Joe Barry. Carol, if I'm not mistaken, Joe Barry Carroll was a Purdue baller maker.
D
I don't know what the hell Minnesota was thinking taking Rubio and Flynn, you know, back to back like that under AA there. Stuff like that, that haunts you, bro.
C
Like you and you pass on stuff. Yeah.
D
I just think sometimes these GMs, they overthink it. You know what I mean? You. It's just like. If you ask me, it's just like this draft. If you don't take AJ first, you just over damn thinking it, you know? I know. Hey, hey. I know Peterson probably don't want to go to Utah if Utah probably gonna take boozle. But man, if I.
C
But the thing is, why would I. Why would I take Peterson when I got Trey?
D
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like you. You gonna. You gonna go get another guard? You already got a hell of a point guard. And Trey, when you can go get this 69 phenom who can do every damn thing.
C
Man, Didn't Joe Bad Carroll go to Purdue? I'm almost certain he did.
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Take a listen. Hedi. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?
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I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed
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me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right? She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
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Give us examples.
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I turned off news altogether.
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I hate to say it, but I
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don't trust much of anything.
C
It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
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NBC News brings you clear report reporting.
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Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. Also, it's time for our final segment evening. It's time for Q and A. Shout out to Ms. Mary Porter for this laportier. Thank you, bro. I appreciate the support. And hopefully you like it. We think we have a very, very good product for all of y' all that have not tried it. I recommend that you do try it because we think we have the smoothest, best tasting Bessel peel cognac on the market. Hey, try it. Compare it against other kayaks. I promise you
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appreciate that. Care package, boy. You send me two, boy. Hey, hey, hey.
C
Yeah.
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Hey, you probably outdid yourself on that one, but I sure appreciate it. I sure appreciate it.
C
Yeah, no problem. No problem. How do you. How do I. How do I deal with my baby mother being bitter about a new woman and saying she's jealous even though she has a new man? I want to just focus on the child. Ain't nothing you can do. Just make it look. Don't ever go back and, you know, do what you did to get, get.
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That's the problem. When you double.
C
Hey, hey, hey.
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You looking at your baby mama and you double back and not. When you're doing that, bro. It's gonna be a lot of confusion, conflict that's gonna bring out. Yeah, you can't do that, bro. He's not gonna do that.
C
Leave it. Leave it.
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Slippery slope.
C
Very, very. And I understand some of you, you know, you might have a very attractive mama and she looking good, and she like, we can be together. But I'm telling you, bro, you asking for trouble. And, and, and look, some might be cool. I mean, you know, you went. I went through that when I had, you know, and, well, why you can't be with me. But some things are just offered without explanation. But whatever you do, bro, don't you don't. Hey, don't you spend the Block.
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You can't, bro. And. And when they withholding the child and won't let you see your child, you. You gotta hold them emotions, bro. You can't you. Because you see, they want you to act a fool. That's what they want. You can't act no fool, man. Hey, take. Take it. Take it high. However it may come, you got to deal with. However you got to deal with it. But.
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And. And the system is not set up for the man. Cause if you act a certain way, the courts are going to step in and make you act accordingly. They act a certain way, they're going to be like, oh, well, you know, you guys just need to work it out. Are.
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We ain't got no right now.
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No, I ain't telling what. Somebody tells you what I know.
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Yeah, I'm with you. Well, I didn't been there.
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So I just say, bro, just do the best you can. Just make sure you be there for the child. Do whatever you can for the child. Because like this, like you said, she's moved on. She got a new man. But the problem is she wants to hold you hostage because they feel that they're the connection, and they know that you want to be most some, not all. There's some men, like, hell, you do whatever you want to do. I ain't got to see the child. So for the song, but for the most part, most men want to see their kids, and they hold the kids as a ploy, as a hostage, as leverage, and it shouldn't be that way. And then the. The kid grows up thinking that the father didn't want to be a part of his life. The kid grows up with a resentment towards his father. Not knowing the mother played a huge role in that.
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Yep, yep.
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And you, you, you. You saw the Michael B. Guys. I had Michael Beasley on it. You heard what his mom was telling him. That wasn't the truth. Because when he had an opportunity to talk to his dad, his dad said, I tried to see you. I would come over there. Your mom would take all my money and still wouldn't let me see you. So he built up a resentment towards her.
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Yeah, man, I. I get it when
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you, you know, everybody says all the things, yeah, I want to be with you. And you want, you know, you have a child and you bring another. You bring a life into this world. And I know every. You know, maybe it was a lie. Well, I'm gonna be with you forever. Things happen. Things happen. And you have to go your certain, your separate ways. But don't Use the kid as leverage. Don't use the kid as a ploy to get back. It's supposed to be you and your co parent for the best interest of the child. It should never be in the best interest of you. It should never be in the best interest of me. What is in the best interest of the child? Well, and it's hard because when emotions get involved, there's a lot of times you say and do things that you
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wouldn't normally do and don't let them, don't let them know that you really love your child and you really want to be in your child. Oh boy, they're gonna make a hell on you. They'll make a hell on you.
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But I'll just say, bro, just pray and just hope before you know it you'll blink and, and, and, and, and, and the child will be big enough and can have his own, have his or her own phone and they can have be a direct line of communication. But in the meantime, bro, it's tough if someone has gone through a similar situation.
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That's, and then when you look back
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at it and you know, you know, I, I was able to sit down and like, you know, hey, there were some state mistakes that were made that we could have done things a lot different. We could have made, we could have done things a lot different. But me being who I am kind of, bro, I ain't gonna let you get no, I ain't gonna let you get up.
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You gotta fight back now. You have to fight back.
C
Yeah. Love both athletes and both all times great. But do you think created more negative ripple effect in their sports? Steph Curry with all these threes and everyone like the shoe of Floyd since everyone wants to finish undefeated.
D
I think both, bro. Like I think even, even in the boxing world, you know, you have a lot of these guys who don't want that, who don't want that one or that asterisk on the side of their record. So everybody wants to keep the O and in basketball, yes, I think Curry has definitely changed the game well to where guys shooting these 30, 40 foot three pointers, you know what I mean? Thinking they stiff and some are successful, some aren't, but I think they both are a significant part of, you know, definitely the boxing world with the, with the O and with guys shooting these long threes, bro,
C
I think the thing is, is that for me, I think Floyd because I don't think when I look at the historic greats, I don't think anybody look at Roberto Duran, I don't Think anybody look at Hagler or Sugar Ray or Tommy Hearns or Muhammad Ali and say, well, they're not great because they're undefeated. If you go back and look at it, most play, most people have Rocky, Marcelo, Arnold ranked below a lot of these heavyweights, even though he was undefeated. And so now we don't get the fights that we know that we should get because everybody is ducking, everybody says, well, I mean, if I get, if I, if I don't, if I'm get a blemished on my resume, people are not gonna look at me the same. And that's sad because it's the opposite of the MMA.
D
Yeah, I will.
C
I mean, George St. Pierre still gets ranked as one of the greats, even though he have a loss.
D
And, and uncle, when you look at it, you gotta look at the era that we in too. You know what I mean? The social media era. Everything is magnified times 100 nowadays, as opposed to back then. You take a. Yeah, everybody knew about it. But now, hey, there's gonna be so many clips of you getting your ass knocked out or losing, you know what I mean? A lot of cats don't want to have to feel that ripple effect. And
C
because I grew up in the 80s, I remember all the great fighters fighting each other. Sugar Ray fought Tommy Hearns, Tommy Hearns fought Roberto Duran, they fought Hagler, they fought Iran BARKLEY in the 70s, the heavyweights Norton and Frazier and Ali Informan, they got those guys fought Ron Lyles, they fought. It wasn't no ducking and dodging. I think maybe you got too many belts now because everybody's like, well, I got the IBL belt and my belt is more valuable than WBO and the WBA and the W and the IB and the Ring Magazine. Nobody wants to fight. Everybody wants to end their record undefeated. And unfortunately, you think ending your record is ending your career undefeated is going to put you in front of some of these other. But you're going to be very, very disappointed when it doesn't happen.
D
And, and a lot of these top fighters don't fight as frequent as those guys did back then.
C
No, no, I think the money, the money is much different now, Joe. I think the thing, because you know, you make 10, 15, 20 million to fight guys back then wasn't making that kind of money. And so you had to fight. If guys were fighting three, four times a year, you might, at max, you might have got get a guy fighting in March or April, maybe May, and then fight late September, early October. But at max, you're getting two fights max. Most of the time you probably get
D
one, and they gonna take a couple years off here, like. Cause hey, hey, hey. Because they sitting so fat now when it comes to these paychecks, when it come to boxing, you know, it's just. It's just a lot different now.
C
It is. It's very different. And it is what it is. And I think that's why a lot of people have gone away from boxing, because they don't see the fights that they want to imagine. If Lennox Lewis and Holyfield and Riddick Bowe and all those guys, the Razor Ruddocks, and if they didn't fight.
D
Getting to it.
C
Come on, man. How y' all in the same. How y' all in the same era and y' all don't never cross paths?
D
That's not possible,
C
Man. Y' all been seeing Jameis Winston. That dude has been a real dual star hosting the World cup on fox. I have not, but I know he is a character, you know, you. I've seen him, you know, in the huddle and saying certain things and in the warm ups. Yeah, he. He definitely has a media career.
D
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Multi. They gonna hook him up. I can see that now. I can see that now.
C
Hey, guys, welcome to Priceland, AKA Minnesota. Joe. If you're looking for a great restaurant, go to my high school classmates Italia restaurant Dario, in the North Loop in Minneapolis.
D
Let me write that down. Dario.
C
That's Lany Ray. She's a. A Minnesota native.
D
Oh, that's right here. That's right down the street from. That's eight minutes from me. All right, I'm about to go check them out.
C
You like. You like Italian?
D
Yeah. You don't like Italian food?
C
Huh?
D
You don't care for it? You're a soul food brother, man.
C
I grew up. I grew up on Shell Boy rd. Spaghetti, meatballs in the can, so.
D
And chopped up hot dog.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm trying to think when the last time I had lasagna. I don't know. Probably 15 years. Spaghetti, probably just as long. I mean, when Shelly. Shelly comes out here and she goes to this Italian place and she'll just get, like, you know, they have these. She'll get spaghetti and meatballs, but they have these meatballs made with. Yeah, like, they're probably about the size of a. They're probably about the same thing.
D
I already know it.
C
In your prime, would you rather fight A, Jon Jones in a cage match or B, you could only do number two at a porty Potty at a construction site for a week's time. Which one you picking?
D
You probably gonna pick that porta Potty. You better leave Jon Jones ass alone.
C
Hey, let me go. I'm. Go ahead and let Jon go ahead and choke me out. Gonna get choked out.
D
You gonna let him choke you out
C
versus use that porta Potty? Yep, yep. That man said a porta potty on the construction site. Man. You know how many asses I've been on that porta Potty? It's hot. Oh, no. I'm going to check number two. It. All right, Architect. Nice tv. Happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth. Questions? What do the Nuggets and the Sixers need to do to get back in playoff contention? Will there be a live nightcap episode of the NBA draft? Yes. Check out Ocho's podcast. The Late Run. Late Run Gold Team usa.
D
I think for the Sixers, maybe you do have to get off and be and go get and try to find something where you can get some draft capital back, whether you can get a all star caliber player back. Because when I watched him play, obviously the injuries hurt him, but it's just so stagnant offensively when he's out there. The ball doesn't move. It sticks a lot. And it's hard for guys like Edgecombe and Maxey to be in rhythm, you know, when I've watched him play, obviously in the postseason. So I think he still has some great value in him. I think he just needs to go to a different situation, bro. Who was the other team that you asked about?
C
The Nuggets.
D
The Nuggets.
C
I think the Nuggets need to stay healthy. I think if Aaron Gordon can stay healthy because remember, they took OKC two years ago to a Game seven and Gordon was hurt this year. Gordon was hurt.
D
I think he. Watson ain't this Gordon country. Don't he get paid this summer?
C
I think they can do it. Is he up or does he have one year left? Aaron Gordon?
D
I don't know, man. Cause boy, Jaden McDaniel had had Jamal Murray in a straight jacket, you know, that's. That's just a. That's just a tough matchup for. That was a tough matchup.
C
Oh, his deal starts this year. Well, he already own a new deal. So how much he pay? How much would he get? He got three years. 103. So basically 30, almost 35 a year.
D
Yeah, if he can stay healthy, man, they'll be all right. And you get that Watson kid Get him taken care of if he can.
C
Health plays a major role because I think they probably tried to move on from Christian Brown.
D
Yeah, I think so too. I don't think he didn't give them what they probably anticipated. Nah.
C
No. I mean, he played pretty good in that championship year, but once they figure.
D
Hey, once they figured him out, it was a rap.
A
Yep.
C
Yo, what up, big three? Next Friday, Ung's birthday, there's a world cup game in H town. Sounds like the perfect time to reunite at the devil's playground.
D
What we doing?
C
What we doing?
D
I know. Ocho down. Hell, I ain't got to ask him.
C
What you thinking, Thanos? You want daddy to be home or you want daddy to be on the road? There you have to go. He said, man, you asked me that question. We definitely going to be on. I'll be. I'll be working on my birthday. I don't know how Ash playing that, but I'm working on my birthday. I got the day after off.
D
Yeah,
C
off on your birthday. We off on Friday.
B
Yes.
C
Okay. No, we off. Okay.
E
Yay.
C
Huh? 29th.
B
What?
C
Your birthday. 28th. 29th, Joe. 29th. I think that we working on yours.
D
It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.
C
It's okay. ISO. I said the same watching soccer, every sports need a national flopping.
D
You do, man. Like you gotta. Hey, man, you gotta take that flopping out of the sports. Cause I look when I'm sitting here watching the soccer games. Hell, I don't know if a dude really hurt or not when he laying down there. I'm like, damn, they play. They have some good acting jobs out there. Now
C
who's a greater coach, Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich?
D
Oh, I'm probably gonna go Pop, bro. I think Phil had just. Phil had. Arguably, hell, he had the best. Damn.
C
He had four to ten greatest players ever played. At least three. Excuse me. Three of the greatest. He could. You could say Phil Jackson coached three of the greatest 10 players to ever play in the NBA. And I think Pop only had one.
D
Pop had. You take it from a guy who done played against pop in a couple playoff series. Hey, man, he wanted the best to do it, bro. He wanted the best to ever do it.
C
TS car wash detail service. Haha. Dad hiding in the attic was sad.
D
Yeah, that was bro. Damn.
C
And you don't know if he's embarrassed. You know you. You don't is easy to stand and judge someone else's. Judge someone else from your own yard where you don't know what's actually going on inside their home. And then a lot of times when I, you know, for me is that when I sit across from someone, I'm just, I'm just listening. I'm not judging them. I don't know their situation. I don't know that man's situation. I don't know. I. I don't know the trauma that he's had in his life. Because a lot of times, Joe, if you don't heal from the trauma that you have suffered, you will bleed on someone even though they didn't touch you.
D
Hello.
C
And that happens a lot. You mask it, you just deal with it, you suppress it. And unbeknownst to you, you're doing a lot of the same thing that you had done to you. Yep.
D
Hey, man, when I. When I heard that man say, he said his dad, he said he talked to him through the door.
C
Through the door. Yeah. Yeah.
D
That's cold blooded, though, boy.
C
Oh. What was it like having to deal with DT and Neil Smith twice a year? Boy, was hell. It was hell. Because Kansas City back then, there were no defense. They had Neil and had Neil and DT on one side. They had Joe Dan Salamore, Big Joe Phillips, that at first had Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross, and then they got DC And James Hasty early. They had Duron Cherry. They were, they were defensive. They were loaded. They were loaded in that stadium. Y' all know the stadium. Vlad is one of the loudest stadiums in the, in the NFL. And boy, when that thing was ratcheted up, Man, then Neil came and joined us. Please consider the following. An IRL stream at a buffer. A buffet, please. This would heal the country if you
D
streamed at a buffet. Oh, man. Listen,
C
I think. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to think. Who does a buffet? I think there's a. A place called Country Buffet. I think they, they might still be in existence. There used to be one on Buford Highway.
D
There's got to be some buffets still around somewhere on Chad.
C
Is there any famous buffets that we're missing? I try to do away from the buffet. Cause people just let their kids go
D
up there playing and be playing, play all in the food and the ice cream and the cookie. I already know what you're talking about,
C
so. So I, I kind of, I've kind of Old country, that might be the name of Old Country Buffet.
D
And you go up there, man, and touched all on every cookie up there.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They grabbing the chicken with that. Awesome.
E
Ah.
C
Oh. Huh. Oh. Old Country Buffet. Is still open. Golden Corral is a buffet?
D
Yeah, I think so.
C
I, I've never been. I ain't know Golden Corral was a buffet. You know all the best casinos, right? Yeah. 150 for a buffet.
D
That's how much a buffet cost now at the casinos.
C
Oh, casino, yeah. Because Joe, they be having endless crab leg. They have lobster tail and shrimp and all that. So they got to get their money back now. I don't eat all that. Yeah. Hey, I got you, I got you a little quick. 20, 25. Give me a couple of pieces of fried chicken, a couple fried steaks, a pork chop and some Mac and cheese. And Mac down. Hey, them casinos, ain't no way I can eat 150.
D
Oh yeah, them casinos got a mean scheme going, boy.
C
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I can't eat, I can't eat that kind of food like that. I know. I think the wind has a buffet that.
D
Oh, they got something. That's typically where I stay when I go to Vegas. Boy, they got some good.
C
Oh, the wind. Okay. Where you stay? I live in my ac. I live in my penny. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys for tuning in. As you watch the usa, they're going to advance thanks to a two way win over Australia. They played very, very well. They're plus five in the gold margin. They can win the, the group outright. The Paraguay draws. What if they need to win, they need to lose a draw. Right. And I think they win the group outright. But USA looked good in their first two matches. They, they dominated. They've beaten teams that they should beat instead of playing down to the competition and not playing as well as people who would expect them to play. They played extremely well in these situations and we are very, very proud of the, the, the US Men's national team. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That is my partner. One of them is already signed off. He had a prior engagement. That is Ocho Cinco Johnson. And the third member of the big three is a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. University of Arkansas alum. That's him. The big bucket getter. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier head over to leportierconjac.com to purchase yours if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Remember, it is a Premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. Try it and compare it and you'll see we have the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. And we have it in two sizes. The OG the 750 and the 375 is now the Junior. Same great quality, same great taste. Thank you guys for joining us. We're off tomorrow and we'll see you Sunday. But again, thank you for joining us tonight at this special time. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. I'm up he's ISO we're out.
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Podcast: Nightcap
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Date: June 20, 2026
Episode Highlights: Unfiltered takes on the NBA, draft rumors, team moves, reflections on sports greatness, NBA player emotions, and major Q&A
This packed Nightcap episode is all about NBA hot takes, from immediate playoff emotions to looming offseason moves. Shannon, Ocho, and guest ISO Joe Johnson break down:
Tone: Fun, honest, conversational—a unique mix of inside basketball, personal journeys, and humor.
Josh Hart on the Spurs and Wemby’s Emotions
“Everybody handles a situation differently... Some people cry like Jordan. Everybody does it differently.” – Ocho (05:24)
“Once you get past that $50-billion, there’s only a certain level of people… Jordan, Serena, Tiger, Brady... They’re the 0.0001 percent.” (11:17)
“The Big Three is far, way more physical than the NBA, bro. They let a lot [go]… You have to play through it.” (18:50)
“You can hide AR to some degree... Cade can play defense. They got some guys.” (23:03)
“He wants all the perks that come with being a superstar but none of the blame.” (29:56)
“I said give me a skin fade, not a Kojak—you cut all my damn hair off!” (37:08)
“It’s hard for me to believe... you can’t teach height! If you got height and some game, you gotta take AJ.” (50:56)
“We don’t get the fights we should ’cause everybody is ducking... In the MMA, even with losses, greats still get respect. Not in boxing now.” (64:02)
“Bro, just do the best you can. Make sure you be there for the child... They hold the kid as a hostage and it shouldn’t be that way.” – Shannon (61:00)
“If you don’t heal from the trauma that you have suffered, you will bleed on someone even though they didn’t touch you.” (76:05)
The Nightcap crew delivered their signature mix of NBA insights, raw honesty, and laughter. They went deep on:
Episodes like this make Nightcap essential not just for NBA junkies but anyone who loves real talk about the sacrifices behind success.