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Narrator/Advertiser
I turned off news altogether.
Chad Ochocinco
I hate to say it, but I
Narrator/Advertiser
don't trust much of anything.
Chad Ochocinco
It's the rage bait.
Erin Andrews
It feels like it's trying to divide people.
NBC News Anchor
We got clear facts.
Chad Ochocinco
Maybe we could calm down a little.
NBC News Anchor
NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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Chad Ochocinco
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ISO (Joe Johnson)
That chill.
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Chad Ochocinco
Goodbye Lions cornerback Taron Arnold is facing multiple felony charges after he was arrested in Tampa, Florida, in connection with a robbery and kidnapping early in February. Police say Arnold reportedly orchestrated an armed robbery and kidnapping after believing several people had stolen property from from an Airbnb he rented, even though investigators later determined the victims had nothing to do with the theft. According to police, two women allegedly lured the victims to a Tampa apartment where two armed suspects hiding in the closet jumped out, held them at gunpoint, beat them, and robbed them. Investigators say the attack was live streamed to Arnold, who allegedly gave directions through a group chat before arriving at department while the robbery was still underway. Police say the victims later for were forced into their own vehicles at gunpoint before being released.
Joe Johnson
Hey, man. What? Hey, they took something from Ta, but Tia done turned into John Gotti out there, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe, for this discussion, let's just say they had taken it. It's insured.
Joe Johnson
Well, we're not sure if it's insured, because if it wasn't sure, well, you should be.
Chad Ochocinco
It should be stolen if you got $250,000 worth of anything, Ocho. And it's not insured. Yeah, if it's jewelry, if it's necklaces, watches, rings, automobiles, whatever the case is, you're bigger than that. That's a bigger problem. But let's just say for the sake of argument. Yeah, go ahead. You're in the NFL, guys, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You're professional.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, stop. See, this is the problem. Keeping it real. Stop keeping it real. You cannot keep it real anymore. When you make millions of dollars. You work your entire life to get in this situation. Why do you need to keep it real?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Listen, some cats being disrespected and violated, bro, they. They. They don't know no other way. You know what I mean? I understand what you saying, but some cats, that's just a reaction. It's like, damn, hold on. The folks don't stole from me. They didn't disrespected me. They done violated me to the utmost degree. Degree. Some cats, bro, they don't rationalize like that. Like, you know what I mean, they think straight. Hey, boom, let me make this play real quick, because they got me bent. You feel me?
NBC News Anchor
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Authorities said. Joe. Oo.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
The authorities say the people that he tied up and beat didn't even do it.
Joe Johnson
You know what? Also, when it comes to. When it comes to NFL players, you know, I love TA man the death. And I'm. I'm, you know, upset at him. I'm disappointed at him for even putting himself in this situation. But if he doesn't have a level head, if there's something that God's stolen from him, the people around him, his entourage, somebody got to be the brains. Somebody else has to be the brains, because when that. When. When. When the thought or. Or emotion is hot, the solution.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Logic is low.
Joe Johnson
When the solution was to even think about doing this, whoever came with the master plan, I should be like, nah, we ain't doing that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hell, that was him, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
This, Ocho, this how I'm thinking, if I got homeboys that are willing to do that, I got to let them go, because it's only a matter of time. I ain't gonna be able to control them, because if they'll do that, they'll do that without being prompted by me. And if they're in my circle, who's getting Char. The people like that. They're around you, Joe. You responsible for them. Oo. You responsible for them.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
If somebody. I. I can't. I can't have somebody around me that'll do stuff. But to go get the strap and to. To. To rob somebody and to tie them up if. If what's being reported is true.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
They say this happened in February, so this was a long investigation. Remember March, April, May. Here we are in late June. So basically four months. They've done their due diligence. But here's the thing, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
When you got the most to lose, you got to be the most logical. Because when they get pinched, I tell you what, of all those people in that gambling incident, who do they walk out?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
All.
Chad Ochocinco
They named a lot. A lot of names.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Who do they walk out?
Joe Johnson
The ones. The ones we know.
Chad Ochocinco
So when the rubber needs to meet the road, they don't want. No. How many times you ever seen somebody hold up a perch? A bluegill crappy. They hold up trophy fishes. So in this situation, who the trophy?
Joe Johnson
Ta
Chad Ochocinco
I just. I. I hate. I hate that. You know, look, we. We make mistakes. We all, you know, we. We put ourselves in situation, and like, Lord, I. I just hope.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I hate.
Chad Ochocinco
I hope for the Sake of argument, this isn't true. Through his PR person, they said he categorically denies this. And I hope, I hope this is a big misunderstanding. Lord, I hope this young man with so much promise in front of him. I just, man, I just, I just.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It's.
Narrator/Advertiser
I mean,
Chad Ochocinco
when did it go Ocho, a professional athlete order somebody to get tied, ordered to allegedly order somebody to get tied up and robbed.
Joe Johnson
Hey.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
And they potentially live streamed it so he could see it. And then he came
ISO (Joe Johnson)
and don't tell me one thing that he young. He only. He ain't know no better, bro. You know, he. I'm telling you, he looking at it from a standpoint that, man, I don't. I don't put XYZ amount of money up in this airbnb. You mean. Tell me they didn't came and stole it. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Hey, he's trying to get his. He's trying to get his stuff back. He wasn't trying to hear all that.
Joe Johnson
That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
That was a very similar situation. Rested. So OJ did the same thing out in Vegas.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Remember?
Chad Ochocinco
Allegedly, they. They. He was told that they had memorabilia of his and they were trying to sell it.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And he ran in there and. And what happened? They ran. They told on him.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
The only difference is he happened to be. He show up with the food. He up there. They got him listening. Hey, hey. Don't let him out of here. Hold him. I just. Man, I hate this young man put himself in this situation. If this is true, I. I really do. Guys, bro, get that stuff insured if you want to have. Look, everybody wants to, you know, guys want to have nice change. Ocho and jewelry. Yeah, I've been there, had my stuff, you know, and, and, and got it taken. And then you feel violated. Joe, you know, Joe. Yeah. You had to stuff broke into your house. You feel violated. You really do. Yeah, you really, really do. And I can.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I.
Chad Ochocinco
But I was like, man, if I knew who did this, I probably. I want to do something bad to him, man. Because that's a man. You work so hard and when you come up, like a lot of us came up, not having and to work so hard to get something and then somebody just come take it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm telling you, bro. Hey, hey. You don't. You, you really don't know how you react, especially if you do know who the people are who've done it. You're right. Like, you really don't, bro. Real talk, man. I'm talking about. Hey, man, I mean, that's violation to the worst degree, bro. Imagine you come home, I'm talking about every mattress in your house flipped over. You know, it's mattresses in the hallway. You're like, oh, what the hell? Somebody refurnishing it. I'm talking about that type of break in.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, crazy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It's hard to sleep at night behind.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe. I came home and I looked, I was like. And I saw the stuff out. I was like, well, damn, was it an earthquake? I mean, but I was in the area. I would have said an earthquake. Because earthquake did the same thing. Knock stuff over and stuff was broken.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And I'm like.
Chad Ochocinco
And then I looked, I was like, well, damn, where my watches?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, damn.
Chad Ochocinco
My heart just start beating fast. Because at first, I didn't know at first I went upstairs, I got Titus.
Tony Ayo
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Was it Titus? Yeah, Titus. I had. Because I had. I had got Titus. I let him out. I got the little ones. I let them out. So I'm just letting them out. I'm not even thinking anything about it. Everything is normal downstairs because I had the little ones downstairs and, and, and, and kennels. So I. I'm not thinking, I'm not thinking anything. Everything looks normal when I get in the house, man. And I remember going up to my bedroom and I'm like, where all this glass come from? Like, man, where my watch is. I had a Christopher backpack. I was like, well, damn, where my backpack? So now I go back down to the trunk. Cause I'm thinking, well, maybe I left it in my trunk. But I know I never leave it in the trunk. Cause that's the last thing I want somebody to be able to just, you know, ease access to stuff. So I was like, you know, if you think you lost something, you looking for stuff? Well, you know, you. Man, what am I watching? Let me look at the refrigerator. Let me look in the oven, man. You know damn well you ain't even watching the damn refrigerator. No oven got you looking with your place. You know, you ain't left your. Then it dawned on me. I've been robbed.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I was like, man, I've been robbed.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
I call. I'll try to call Shelly. I just called out like, call 911-911- what is your emergency? I'm like, ma', am. I like to report a broke, a break in. See how they're like, are they still there? I'm like, nah, I'll be having a very difficult call. If they were, this would be a very different call. If they were still here, ma'. Am. I was like, my jewelry's gone,
ISO (Joe Johnson)
man.
Chad Ochocinco
I waited, man. I waited. Like, it took up like two hours. Because if. If it's not an injury, it's not an. They don't deem a robbery as an emergency. So they're not. It's not like, if, you know, is anybody injured, something like that. I started lying. I said, yeah, but then they end up getting me for life. So I was like, nah, nobody's injured, man. I was like, man. And I just remember sitting on my bed, just looking at the glass on the floor.
Joe Johnson
I was like, damn, that's one of the worst feelings in the world, man.
Chad Ochocinco
It was, man. I said, all my watches, man. I said, Man, 30 plus years gone.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
And every. I had everything. No cufflinks, man. I had worked, man. I was just like. I was just. I was just so distraught. I was just so distraught.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
That's the violation, bro. That's the violation.
Chad Ochocinco
You feel?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm talking about like, it don't get no lower than that, bro. You come home and your. Your stuff ramshack like that.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, I'm gonna come on pay you a little visit, too, down there.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Joe. That man said hey. He said he knows. He knows a violation. But hey, ain't no. He can't help himself, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I want to make sure y' all want your home, too.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I bet he get his ass chewed by this big ass dog I got over there, too. I bet that two of them. I got two of them. I bet that. I guarantee that. I guarantee you when they find you, like, damn, boy, somebody chewed up on you. You all right?
Joe Johnson
If they can find me, that's the problem.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, okay. You right, you right.
Joe Johnson
I got something for them dogs. Ammonia, huh? Put them right to sleep. They'll be sleeping about 30 minutes.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, nah, they don't work over there.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I want that car collection you got.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you got a car? Yeah, I forgot, Joe, but Joe got them cars. He might have some pullers, some real pullers up in there, Ocho.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, Chad. Chat, Chad. That's why you can't tell people what you got going on. Because see how they see how they do, they'll turn around and use it on you. You know what I'm talking about? Chat, Chat. Pay attention now. Which I was talking about what. What your uncle was.
Joe Johnson
Now I'm talking about the car collection. You said you had that, you know.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a nice little car collection.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, I guess what? Guess what? Else I got. I got a nice little gun collection, too.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, who you think about shooting?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Well, I really never want to have to. I really don't want to have to use it like that. I like to go to the range, you know what I mean? Do my thing. Ultra. But I really don't want to have to have. You know. I mean, I ain't no killer, but don't push it.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, Joe say. Joe say, I like this is the only time that I'm practicing, that I don't really want to play the game.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
There you go.
Joe Johnson
I understand what Joe's saying, but sometimes. Sometimes certain situations, you ain't got no choice but to react.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I know, but I hope like hell I don't have to use it. You know what I mean? I don't want to have to use on nobody. I go to the range, give me some shots off, you know? I mean, you know, make sure my aim still accurate. You know what I'm saying? I hope.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, I hope it's accurate, too.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. You know, I'll be going to the range, and the shots I be getting off, they be hitting dead center.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. What you. What. What you shooting over now?
Chad Ochocinco
You know, I'm fixed now. Ain't nothing going on. You want me to that one, Joe? You got me, Joe. You set me up. You set me up.
Joe Johnson
He hit that one at the park, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Joe set me up. Joe set me up. You good with Joe? You good now, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
You sure you want the point guard? Cause you can orchestrate that thing, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, boy. Hey, hey. I just. I. I know how you owe your move, boy. Something wrong with y'.
Tony Ayo
All.
Joe Johnson
My name in that stuff, man.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Man, see, here you go. He the folks that I already said you won
Erin Andrews
chat.
Joe Johnson
Don't know, man. I grew up in the church. I ain't nothing like what they think.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hell, them be the worst one.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. That's why I grew up in the church. Yeah. Yeah. Y' all be the worst one. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Preacher daughter, cop, son. Boy, that's a mess.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. Up there playing deacon. Yeah. Manifolds already on to you, bro. They know what's going on?
Joe Johnson
Hell, no. That's a good one.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, I just. I. I hope this ain't true. Ocho Joe. I really do, man. I really do. I hope this is a big.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I don't know. This was a big.
Chad Ochocinco
A misunderstanding.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah, nah. One of them misunderstand. Yeah, misunderstanding about you taking something that didn't belong to you so much.
Joe Johnson
I hope ta. I hope TA pulled this one off, man. Get up out of this, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I sure hope so.
Joe Johnson
Fix whatever you need to fix.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man. Lord have mercy. Ocho, why won't this man stop? This your guy, Brandon, you posted a video announcing he's back on tour. And that ticket to come see him can be found on the Washington commander's website. He also posted a video of him in his closet tossing a bunch of money on the ground. There's another reminder that the 49ers money, he's made from them.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What's going on, bro?
Chad Ochocinco
Oo. Oo the wide receiver. He's our resident wide receiver expert. He. Wide receiver? Yeah, he.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
He.
Chad Ochocinco
The wide receiver whisperer.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Uncle. Hey. There's certain things. I was crazy when I played un. But there's certain lines even I know not to cross. And I understand. I have. I have respect for the game. I have respect for, obviously, the organizations. Sometime you don't always see eye to eye to eye when it comes to the business side of things, Uncle Joe. But I. I mean, B.A. is B.A. you know, he's. He's going the route. He feels necessary. Something has happened to him that has him reacting like this. Uncle Joe. Chat. You know, do.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Do.
Joe Johnson
Do I support it? No. Do I understand it? Yes, in a sense, because I don't know what's going on behind closed door that has him acting out the way he is. I. I just understand the small window of opportunity that this game gives us. I understand the small opportunity window, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
It's very small, and it goes by really fast. I just want to be. Take advantage of that. That small window and maximize on as much money as he can and as much success on the field as he can. Because this game, they will move on without you behind, and they won't mess a beat.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, but, man, listen. Y' all know, bro, this type of behavior, man, it. It don't help us.
Chad Ochocinco
It doesn't.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It don't. It don't help us, man.
Chad Ochocinco
See, this.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Us.
Chad Ochocinco
We're the only group that one individual. It reflects negatively on all of us.
Joe Johnson
All of us? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
We're the. We're the only group of people that one individual. What. One individual does reflect negatively on. On all of us. Oo. You can be somewhere.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
We see somebody of our color and they be acting up, and we. Our skin start to crawl. You like.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Lord have mercy. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Jesus.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Why. Why are we doing this, man? Damn. Lord. And it just.
Joe Johnson
It's like.
Chad Ochocinco
And that. They hold that against us. They'll use that. Why? Well, this Is why we can't pay him. Because you see what Brandon Iuk did? You see what this guy did? Yeah, bro. Other people act up, and one person doesn't reflect negatively on an entire race. We're the only race that that happens to.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And I just. Man, I just feel so. I. I just like, man, I mean, I was at the DMV in Atlanta, man, and.
Tony Ayo
And.
Chad Ochocinco
And, you know, I went in, I got the parking spot, and this couple. And this guy was about to pull in. And you see the guy, he got a thing on. He just waiting for the person to pull out. So the person backs out and pulls, and the car shoots in. And the dude said, man, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, I was. I was going to that spot, and dude was arguing back and forth, and I was like, man, come on, let that go. Then his lady chime in. He done let it died down. Then his lady. And I'm like, she amped it back.
Joe Johnson
She amped it back up, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
He said, my man, your lady gonna get you. Hey. Gonna get you blur burnt. I said, bro, come on, bro. We don't need that. So I leave because I was like, bro, come on. But anyway, he, like, shop. He's like, yeah, hey, I'll be wiping you up, man. Hey, man, you be killing skill, man. You be funny than the bug. I said, yeah, come on. So, yo, I go in the place. So the lady's like, you.
Karen from My Favorite Murder
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
She said, hey, come on. Just don't worry about it.
Starbucks Advertiser
You.
Chad Ochocinco
You'll be next. I said, okay. They come in. They still going. Now we're in a place. It's, you know. You know, idea of the other thing. Crowded.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. He.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm a.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I tell you what. Don't worry about it. I got something for you. You know what I'm about. Hey, I'm gonna spark this up on you. And I'm like, man, why you keep. You every. You gonna get your man lit up. Shut up. As I tell you, man. Then what I'm gonna do, man? Hey, check this out. I'm gonna go up here. I said, hey, can you get. I said, we gonna get a thing. I said, me and you go take this picture. We gonna bone on that. He said, man, you gonna do that? Yeah, come on. But I know how. I know how it looks, and I just even. It doesn't matter where we are. I've always tried to diffuse a situation, especially, hey, I'm sorry. You look like people are walking. I'm trying to diffuse it at all costs. Whatever it Takes. That's just the way I am because I. I know how negatively it impacts how it looks. I just. Man, I was like, man.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Man.
Chad Ochocinco
Lord have mercy. Come on, Brad. Come on, ba.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you know what? You know the one thing I don't. You know, Unc, you was good to the game. Joe, you was good to the game. And the game is going to always be good to you when you no longer playing. And the most important thing in life, always, it's for everybody in the chat, is the relationships you build along the way.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
Joe Johnson
You never want to burn no bridges, because you never know when you got to cross that bridge again.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yep.
Joe Johnson
You never know. I just. I. I don't. I don't know, man. I. I don't.
Starbucks Advertiser
I don't.
Joe Johnson
I don't have BA's number personally, because he. I. I would have been wanting to reach out to him. And though there's other ways to go about this, let's not do it that way.
Chad Ochocinco
That's. Oh, I'm a firm believer in that. I've always tried to treat people well, because just every coach that's on your team, they're not going to be on your team always.
Joe Johnson
No.
Chad Ochocinco
What if they go somewhere else? Then that's an opportunity. You see. You see a lot of time, coaches, when they get jobs, they'll always bring one or two players from the team that they came from.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that could be me. That could be me.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
That's. That's how I. That's how I look at it. And I've had great relationships. Look, we already know the Mike Shanahan. They talk about the Sean McVeigh, but Sean McVeigh was on the staff with Kyle and Mike when he was in Washington. Raheem Morris was on that staff. Mike McDaniel was on that staff. Go back and look at all that staff. They spread out through the league.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You never know. The guy that runs the whole Broncos organization, what they eat, when they eat. Obviously, the coaches said, where they gonna stay. Chip Conway. Chip Conway started out in the mail room in 1993. Now he runs the entire Broncos. Hey, Chip, man, check this out, man. I need a couple T shirts. Chip, I need a helmet. Chip, I need some Bronco glasses, right? First thing, as soon as I call, you see my name pop up. Sharpie, what you need? I said, chip, how you know I need something? He said, sharpie, you only call me when you need some. What you need. But it was always, you know, when it came Christmas time, always tip the guys, always gave a Nice bonus.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I end up giving. You know, with the video crew, the training staff, the equipment crew, the mail crew, I mean, I probably get. I probably was given 15, $20,000 bonuses.
Tony Ayo
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But making no money back then. Now he running. Now he running the whole Bronco thing. Same thing with Flip. Flip there in the equipment room. Flip started out. Hey, hey, Flip, I need a Bronco helmet. Them new helmets they got. Hey, Flip, get your boy one. Put 84 on the back of it. No problem. Sharpie, man. It's same thing. Like, I don't. I don't know. I don't really know the equipment people now. Edo used to be the equipment manager in Baltimore, but when he was there, same thing, man, you.
Narrator/Advertiser
You just.
Chad Ochocinco
You gotta treat. You don't know. Just because you here today, that don't mean you won't be here tomorrow.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no, right here.
Chad Ochocinco
And the person that was here when you was here and he was here and you treated him bad, he might. Whoa. See?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
You never know.
Joe Johnson
You might need him one day.
Chad Ochocinco
That's just. That's. That's how I am. I just, man, I just. Like I said, I just. I. I hopefully, you know, somebody can get to him. OO and Joe, put a bug in there and say, man, this is not the way to handle the situation. I understand that you're not happy with the 49ers and you want to get out. Excuse me, but this is not the right way.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
No, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Because, you know, oa, first of all, they already boarded the guaranteed con. All the guaranteed money that he was going to get, get that he was supposed to get, moving forward, they boarded that.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
And look, and what I was telling you, you and Ocho, huh? Man, if I'm another team, I mean, damn, do I want to deal with this, bro? Like, think about that. Like, I'm not sure if. I'm not sure if, If. If IUK is thinking about that, bro. Like, any team that. That's willing to invest in you, they probably gonna be thinking, like, damn, at some point, he probably gonna be like that with us.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm. Hey, I don't know how y' all think about this, but if I don't care how fine the lady is, if you call the cops, if I know that you call the cops on somebody, you think I'm about to deal with you?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
No, you call. You get mad at him and call the cops.
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Chad Ochocinco
What's gonna stop if you get mad at me doing the same thing? I'm good. Not just me. Hey, hey. Somebody like hey, that was a license, lady. I'm not saying. I'm saying, obviously there are certain times that women. Because. Because y' all know how y' all like to twist thing. Let me. Let me clarify this. There are times that women should call the cops, but there are times in situations that sometimes this. Your emotions get the best of you and you call the cops out of frustration.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
You sit back and you analyze. You're like, man, I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry I put you in a bad spot. But it's too late. Somebody might lose their job, somebody get cut, somebody, you know, X, Y and Z. There are times that the cops should be called. And I'm not saying women, that if you feel like you've been threatened, but you make sure you understand the con. The. The ramifications that comes along with actions, because every action there is a reaction. So.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me just clarify that because I know social media, how y' all just take everything and just take it out of context and just run with it. Because we got. We have to be very specific now. We have to be because a lot of people understand what I'm talking about. But there'll be one or two that are. Clip it and won't provide context to what I'm saying. I'm saying in a certain. In certain situations, there's Sometimes you just. Well, he did X, Y and Z. And it. It wasn't that situation where he didn't come home late at night. You mad or you find out he got a new girl. Yeah, it's a foolishness like that. Obviously, like I'm saying, that's the. The type of situation I'm saying that doesn't warrant the cops being called because you find out he's seeing somebody else or he went out of the country with somebody else, or he sent somebody else some money, he bought somebody a car. That ain't a reason to call the cops. Now it's time to play or fade. Presented by prize pick. All right, Joe, we got Jordan Crawford, guard for the riot. 17 and a half points, more or less than 17 and a half.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I'm gonna say more. Last week, y' all know that the LA Riot played against the 305. The little brawl they had to stop the game. So it was more so of a. Obviously LA Ride 1. But they didn't finish the game. Then Jordan had. I think he had like 12 or 13 points in, but it. The score was like 39, 31. Anyway, Jordan Croft is one of the best scorers in the big three, bro. He gonna get that. He gonna get that. 17. He gonna get 18 for sure.
Chad Ochocinco
All right. Michael Beasley, 23 and a half points. More or less than 23 and a half.
Tony Ayo
Damn.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, they playing. They playing us, The Detroit amps. 23 and a half. If Beasley don't have that, there's no way they can win because Lance is not going to be playing. Lance got suspended. He suspended this week. Beasley suspended next week. So 23 and a half. Nah, B's ain't getting that. Okay,
Chad Ochocinco
From the Amps. Your squad more or less than 15 and a half points.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
He. He's gonna have to score more. I'm gonna get more. We need Nas to score the ball more. Him and Brewer, they're really our guys who really gonna score the ball. Green is a great score as well, but Nas has the score in order for us to win, so. Hey Nas, if you paying attention partner, I need you to tap in, lock in partner
Chad Ochocinco
Earl Clark of Trilogy. More or less than 18 and a half points.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I say more. Earl is. Earl is they guy. That's the goatee guy. Guy who's been playing in the big three for quite some time, putting up great numbers. He a load boy. He can score that basketball. So I. I expect him to. Yeah, 18 or more. 19. So really gotta get 19 points. Yeah, I say more. I say you'll get down. That's it.
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Chad Ochocinco
I hate to say it, but I
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Maybe we can calm down a little.
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Chad Ochocinco
Time to play nice. Time for our final segment the evening. It's time for Q and A.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What you doing that for, Ojo, Huh? What you doing there for?
Joe Johnson
Working on my shot for the big three celebrity game.
Chad Ochocinco
Before we get to our super chat, we got three video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a to the first
NBC News Anchor
OO.
Tony Ayo
ISO.
Chad Ochocinco
What's up with y' all fellas, man? This message here is for oo. See, now, that's how you answer to the critics. That's how you answer to the critics, man.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
The goat.
Chad Ochocinco
The goat.
Joe Johnson
Shout out.
Chad Ochocinco
Garrett Bell, too,
Narrator/Advertiser
yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Uncle Joe. I've been fighting for my life, man, on all social platforms. Somebody killing me. Listen, I got a whole new fan base. They didn't follow me at all, man, especially a lot. A lot of people from Argentina. Respect. I made friends with one today, actually. He's the last person I followed on. On X, and he's a huge, messy fan. That's about. He got like 400, 000 followers. And I just. There's just a debate and going back and forth and understanding, obviously, how great both players are. Obviously, Messi is great in his own right, as is Cristiano. Now, one of the players is still able to dictate games. He's able to control games, you know, and Cristiano's not. Not in a place where he has the skill set or the ability to do so like he used to when he was younger. So obviously, Messi. Messi is at an extreme advantage based on his size, his skill set, and what he can do. But, man, both those dudes are just, Just, just. I mean, listen, it's.
Erin Andrews
It's.
Chad Ochocinco
It's also.
Joe Johnson
It's LeBron Jordan. It's. It's all preference. Right?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Here's our second one. Let's take a listen.
Tony Ayo
Ocho.
Joe Johnson
ISO. Quick question for y'.
Tony Ayo
All.
Joe Johnson
At what point in y' all careers did y' all know it was time to get off the court and hang up the cleats? Like, what exact moment made y' all think, like, damn, it's really time for me to retire. But as always, love the show. Keep up the good work. Shoot. Right? I ain't had no choice. I mean, the whole world know my story.
Chad Ochocinco
So why you laughing? Well, you go play till the wheels fall off. You laugh too much. They would have to tell you. They would have to tell you not to come back. No, I Was gonna play one more year. But when CBS came with that deal that was going to pay me the equivalent money that I was making in the NFL and I wasn't gonna have to get hit anymore. And then I just, I just. You know what, guys? I just realized, I said, me going to another Pro bowl, me having another 50 catch season, another 10 touchdown season, that wasn't going to change people's perception of me. And once you realize.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That playing another year doesn't change the perception of what people think of you. Some people gonna like you. Some people go, wasn't gonna like you. And it was just easy for me to. It was just easy for me to go, especially because I had, you know, I, you know, like, gave it. Giving it my all.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
For. For all as long as I can remember. Yeah, I've always wanted to play football. And when I went interview for the job at cbs, it was the first time I thought about doing something else other than playing football. Yeah, I got to go. It's really that simple for me, guys. It's really that simple.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. For me, it was probably when, you know, like, because in basketball we play, you have back to back, back to backs. You could play four games in five nights. And on them back to backs. I'm talking about. When. I'm talking about horrible uncle Ocho. Oh, I. I was.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I was horrible.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Them damn back to backs. I couldn't give you nothing, bro. I'm talking about. It was hard. Just even getting up and down the damn knees and hips back hurt. That joke will hurt, boy. On the back to back. Okay. Oh, I ain't gonna lie. I was so bad on the back to back to end of my career, bro. That's when I knew, because it's like I could have a decent game, but it'll take me four, five days just to recover from that decent game. To have another decent. To have another damn decent game.
Chad Ochocinco
But that's true, Joe, because as you get older, it gets harder and harder to put those games back together. That's what Ocho and I, we talked about. That's the thing. You can have a game, but where you should have a game? Oh, I give you 100. Give you 95. Give you 80. Give you 115. Get your 75. 60, 125. Now I'll give you a hundred. Now they're gonna be some 30s in there, some 40s. Be a long time when you get another 100 out your boy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey. Hey. Thanks. No lie, I swear. Cause for me, that was that. That Was it, bro? It was like, damn, it was nice. I was like, damn, I feel good tonight and I have a good game. Well, I'm talking about the next few nights. I'm talking about I can't even get out the damn first block. I'm like, damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Let's take a listen to our third one.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What up, Nightcap fam? Got a question for y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I had just got done watching the 3030 about the Lakers and Celtics. And they got a question. How you think who had the worst finals block under Magic Johnson at 84 or LeBron in 2011, he said had the worst one under.
Chad Ochocinco
But see, Magic just had that Magic. And you got to realize Magic was a two time finals mvp. And what happened was it was late in the ball game, it was a tie ball game, and he dribbled out the clock and didn't get a shot off it. Almost like, it was almost like a J R Smith situation. Yeah, yeah, they called him Tragic Johnson. Mind you now. Yeah, he's a two time finals mvp. He had never lost the Finals. Well, he had lost the year before because think about it. They, they win in 80, the Celtics win in 81. They win in 82. They got swept by the Sixers in 80, in 83. So they're back again. So think about it. Magic Johnson first. 80, he's in the finals. 82, he's in the final. 83, he's in the finals. 80. 84, he's in the finals. 85, he's in the finals. So five of his first six years, Magic's in the finals. They got swept in 83, 84, he dribbles out the clock. They lose that one, they call him tragic. Fast forward the next year. 85, they get blown out. 148, 114, they call it the Memorial Day Massacre. So now there's a potential. Kareem looked old and slow. Kareem bounces back, has a monster game, gives Paris the business.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Kareem goes on to win Finals MVP at 38, the oldest guy to ever win the Finals MVP. LeBron played bad that series. It wasn't a blunder. He just had a bad series. Magic had that bad moment that they didn't recover from. So overall, I think it was, I think it was, was, was LeBron for the Simple Fact, 2011, and against the Mavericks, he was bad. Ain't no way around it. And y' all know, I think the world. He my guy. That's my goat. Yeah, but he was awful.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I just, I thought in 2011, D. Wade was so assertive in that final series, Uncle Ocho to. You know what I mean? That's why after that season, after that finals, D. Wade was like, look, I'm giving the keys to you. You know what I mean? Because I thought D. Wade was ultra aggressive in that finals. He was like, damn, LeBron, I'm going out, I'm gonna win another MVP, you know what I mean? If we do win. That's how it seems. So I agree with you. I think, I think Braun didn't wanna. I don't know, I don't want to say, not step on his toes, but he wasn't aggressive. You know, the, the Mavs had a great game plan, but he took a great lesson from that, bro. He took a great lesson from that. They bounced back from that.
Chad Ochocinco
And that was the problem, is that. Guess what, Joe, back then, if you remember the next year, what did he do? He went down that summer and he worked with Dream, develop that post. Because he wouldn't play in the post. That's why JJ Barrea, that's why Jason Terry could guard him. Just play off him, make him shoot. We'll live with that. He didn't have the post game. He goes, he gets for Kareem, he develops the post. Now he getting people that work.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But I. Hey, it's good. You know, sometimes it's a blessing and a curse to be about 58 years old. Because I remember, I remember all of that. And that's actually I had Magic and I asked him on there. He's like, Brad, he like sharp, man. It was tough. He's like, I'm a two time finals mvp.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And they call me Tragic, not Magic Johnson. Tragic Johnson.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
People don't realize. You do realize Magic didn't win. He would. Didn't win Rookie of the Year. Bird did. Bird was rookie of the year. Even though Magic led the team with finals mvp. And if I'm not mistaken, I think it was a 33 to 3 vote. Bird got 32 votes, Magic got 3.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I wonder what the numbers was. I know Bird was probably the.
Chad Ochocinco
Bird was unbelievable his rookie year. What you got to you? I think Bird, him. I think Bird, they increased like 30 something games. Let me see Bird numbers. I mean, he was like a double double.
Joe Johnson
B.
Chad Ochocinco
As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, Bird might have finished second.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, he was. He was. He averaged 21 and he averaged 21 and 10.
Chad Ochocinco
I think Bird might have finished second or third in the MVP vote that year. Look, Kareem won it. Kareem was the final. Was, was, Was MVP of the league. But I think Bird might have been second. Might have been second or third. Because Bird, like Bird, first five, six years in the league, he. I don't think he finished out of the top three for MVP because 84, 85, 86, he won it consecutive. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVP piece. I think he finished second or third, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
And look that up right quick. Birds rookie year.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
That boy won't play.
Chad Ochocinco
Bird was a bad boy. That was my guy. I was a Bird guy, man. I had posters. I had T shirts with lab birds sitting in the nest when they played the Rockets. Birds fly higher than rockets because in 80, in 81, they beat. They beat Moses Malone and Robert Reed now. And then in 86, it was Elijah. It was Elijah, Juan and. And Ralph Sampson that they beat
Joe Johnson
old Bird.
Chad Ochocinco
The winner was Kareem. 147 votes. Second place with Dr. J, third place, George Garvin. Larry Bird finished fourth in the MVP voting as a rookie.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn. As a rookie, you got to be a bad boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep. Iceman. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy says happy early birthday. Hope you enjoy your day tomorrow. Thank you, Doc. I'm gonna enjoy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
There you go. There you go.
Chad Ochocinco
I can't enjoy my birthday, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Now, I'm saying, you rub your hands together like Birdman.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna enjoy my day. Lord, Lord, bless me to open my eyes, put my feet on the ground. Great day to be.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, man. Don't come, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on. Come on, Joe. I can't make it more than what
ISO (Joe Johnson)
it is,
Chad Ochocinco
but, you know, it's the takeover. Oh, happy birthday. Love the birthday. Shout out. Now let's fix the scouting report. Cartier is a 49ers fan. Niners by five. Okay, okay. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that. His son is taking his son to the Atlanta. Remember the Atlanta 49ers game? He's a 49ers fan. I think the Timberwolves got worse with that trade.
Joe Johnson
Got worse.
Chad Ochocinco
I think the thing is, Mellon's gonna
ISO (Joe Johnson)
have to change his game.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, he can't. I mean, Joe, he just can't come jacking down. Shotgun. You gotta realize now, and the expectations are gonna be a lot different in Minnesota than they were in Charlotte.
Joe Johnson
Charlotte. Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, hey, I, I, I, I understand that. But I do think timing is everything, too. I think it's time, the timing is right for Lamelo in his career for this change to happen. I think he's a more mature player. I think he'll be even better player. I think him and Anthony Edwards will compliment one one another. The problem is because you gave up two of your.
Chad Ochocinco
Your.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Your best bigs, one which was a stretch for, and one was more of a power ISO guy wearing the.
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ISO (Joe Johnson)
You got to find something to fit. You got to feel that void. You know what I mean? You got to feel that void whether it's coming off the bench or not. You have to feel that voice. So outside of that, I think they're going to be heavily perimeter oriented, which I don't have a problem with that. That's today's game, you know, knowing and understanding that. But I think those guys are really going to take some pressure off one another. But you're right, I think with him being a. A pass first point guard who can score the ball, who has a lot of pizzazz to his game, I think he's only going to help, bro. I think he. I think he knows and understand the opportunity that he have, and I think he gonna maximize it.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, thank you for taking a picture with my lady today. I guess in Soho or Sofi. But anyway, she's beautiful, ain't she?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Soho, I hear in New York, where I was doing it. I was doing the draft king stuff for the game.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, yeah, he. Ocho ain't like that. He don't be looking at people, girls. He don't do that.
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna be paying no attention. Yeah, I got them shades on, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all think lamelo trade makes job market go up. And do you think Hornets go after him? How is his. How does this play out?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I really don't know about the job situation. I mean, from reports it sound like he does. He doesn't have a lot of value.
Joe Johnson
That made me. That hurt me so bad, man, when it. When. When they broke it down. Why he doesn't have the value, you know?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And then they're showing the graph, the graph, the graphic on his numbers and how everything continued to decline year in and year out.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm like, yeah, you see? Yeah, he's a paint guy. I mean, yeah, he. Yeah, he developed and worked on his shot in a little three point in. The three point shot did get a little better, Joe, but he ain't got no midi and he's not in the paint as much as he once was.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Nah. And hopefully. And hopefully Josh sees this meaning, like the. The reports about him and he's able to, you know, you know, prove people wrong, bro. Get back to who he used to be. But that, you know, with this being a. A point guard driven league now, man, your point guard got to be able to shoot Ojo. And I just think his three point percentage has kind of plummeted over the years and it's got to get better because that's if his three point percentage gets better, that'll open up the rest of his game. So hopefully he working.
Chad Ochocinco
Hopefully everything
ISO (Joe Johnson)
all day long. Yeah. Twice on Sunday.
Chad Ochocinco
Yo Oo ISO is 12am about to start the celebration. I turned 40 today and I'd also like to give a shout out to un since it's his birthday also. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. You know, boy.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, be the big three eight.
Chad Ochocinco
What's that that cap crew. Happy birthday. I'm also celebrating my birthday. Turning 24. Ocho. I'm going to Fan Fest in Miami for the Portugal game with the fam. Pull up. Love the show, fella. Luis.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Fan Fest gonna be nice. I'm. I'm hosting something at Bayside. I'm not sure if it's part of the Fan Fest, but I'm hosting them at Bayside early in the day before the game. Start.
Chad Ochocinco
Start. Bench cut. Zeke. Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell. Oh, I'm starting. I'm starting Todd Gurley. I'm. I'm benching Zeke and gotta let Le'Veon go. I'm sorry. Damn.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
As patient as Le'Veon is back there,
Chad Ochocinco
but you look at Todd Gurley's numbers, man. Todd girl like Todd Gurley had like 70 plus touchdowns in like five years.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Now you right. Hey, you're right. But I, I love how Le'Veon. Hey, look, you hand that ball to Levy, it's like he walking back there. He like, he take a couple days next, you know, Puma.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what?
Joe Johnson
Joe patient boy.
Chad Ochocinco
But when he went. But he stepped off a cliff when he went to the Jets, I mean he was non existent.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Everybody stepped off a cliff when they.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It ain't really his fault.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, who, well who you. Who you taking, Joe? Who you taking, Ocho?
Joe Johnson
Give. Give me the three again.
Chad Ochocinco
Zeke, Todd Gurley, Le'Veon. I don't think people. Because Todd Gurley career was so short. I don't think people realize how good he was. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
They don't understand.
Chad Ochocinco
So based on longevity of the year, offensive player of the year.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I know he. He will meet. Hey, he put some numbers up.
Chad Ochocinco
TG had it. Yeah, he gave out on it.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
You like that?
Narrator/Advertiser
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Damn. I'mma go, Zeke.
NBC News Anchor
I'mma go.
Chad Ochocinco
Zeke, you starting Zeke.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. There we go, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Zeke first. And I'm. I like, I like Gurley. I like what he did, but I like Le'Veon better. I'm a cut talk.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
All right.
Chad Ochocinco
What you got, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a star, Zeke. I gotta go. Le'Veon too, uncle. I just love his patience, bro. When I watch that man play, how he hit that hole sometime, he just, he. I like Le'Veon
Joe Johnson
like he damn near walking, Joe, man.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I swear, dude, waiting for a little crease. When that little crease open, he gone.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I, I. Yeah, he was, he was special. What's hard, Girly? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Todd.
Chad Ochocinco
Girly plays six years. That's early play. Six years. Has 79 touchdowns.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hold on. The average span for, For a running back is five years, ain't it? Is it five?
Chad Ochocinco
With average, like an NFL player is about three and a half years.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That man had 70. Basically 80. That man had 80 touchdowns in six years.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
He was a monster. He was a monster.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. This, this.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It's.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
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Chad Ochocinco
I hate to say it, but I
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Chad Ochocinco
It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Chad Ochocinco
Pets age 0 to 1012 well no he played so he played Le'Veon played about from 13 to 2021
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and.
Chad Ochocinco
And had 42 touchdown what's it called him had oh yeah he had game started touchdowns he had 35 three he played from he played nine years and had 42 touchdowns.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Who Leon
Chad Ochocinco
Todd girl who played six years had. I gotta say man, people don't Realize how good Todd Gurley was Bad?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
No, he was nice.
Chad Ochocinco
He was sensational. Well, how many years Zeke play? Zeke played nine, Had 74 touchdowns. Todd Gurley played six years, had 80. I mean, think about it. That man played 10 years old. Show that man gonna have a hundred touchdowns. Yeah, he's averaging. He's basically averaging 13 touchdowns a season. ISO, help me out. If a player averages 25 points a game on 45% shooting, 37% from the three other player average 22 points a game on 50% field goal shooting, 40 for three, who's a better score? Who's average more points on a one or the one who's more efficient? Who's the better average more points or the one that's better efficient? So 25 points on 45 shooting and 35 three or 22 points on 50 field goal shooting and 43 that 22 on 50.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Come on, man. The percentages don't lie, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
What's up, Nightcap fam? Happy birthday, Unc. Today is my sixth year anniversary with my loving and beautiful wife. Can you please give my wife Kiara a special shout out for re redefining gravity and letting this fall. This fall last forever with me. Sparks Laportier equals demon time. Absolutely. Kiara. Hubby want to give you a shout out. You guys been married for six years. And he said, you know what? Only great things have happened in his life since he's met you. And I want to congratulate you and the entire team at nightcap. Want to wish you guys a happy sixth anniversary, wedding anniversary. And continue, continue, continue this happiness. Still can't believe Ocho spent 17 hours in Atlanta and ISO can't even do ish. And hey, even give my boy your address. All that trash talking. Damn, boy, please. Atlanta, 17, no hours.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. How long over there, Joe? I wasn't even there 24 hours. I was there short.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
I don't know. But the Porsche light been on for four months. Yeah, big three.
Chad Ochocinco
My name is Javier. I wanted to tell you guys these past two years, you guys have really helped me since my mom passed from. From cancer at 62 years of age. Sorry, man. Sorry to hear it for you. Sorry for your loss. You guys have made me laugh and have mentally helped me. So thank you so much. No, thank you, Javier. Thank you for supporting us. Sorry to hear about the passing of your mom at 62 years young. But we greatly, greatly appreciate your support. It's things like that that make this worth worthwhile because we get a lot of this that sometimes people are going through things. And they say, you know, listen to Nightcap with Ocho, myself and Joe. That it give them, you know, something to smile about, something to laugh about and take their minds off on things that are going on in their life. That's kind of hard to deal with. So we greatly appreciate that.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
ISO, what's Clyde's responsibility as the Big Three commission and who's winning a chess match between y'? All?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Clyde responsibility is to, you know, make sure the Big Three is ran smoothly, bro. Keep these guys in check. You know what I'm saying? When. You know, when guys get out of line like it did that first week, the first guy who they probably gonna see and hear from, his Clyde, he gonna be back there. He gonna be back there talking crap, too. Hey, shut y'. All. Yeah, yeah. That's how I go. Hey, this thing here. Let me tell y' all something. I love the big three. I love playing in the big three. And I love. And I enjoy how it's ran, but, yeah, it's ran with an iron fist, bro.
Erin Andrews
You.
Chad Ochocinco
You.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Clyde gonna be the first one. He gonna talk to you like you somebody out the street, too. Hey, man. Hey, man, y' all need to go on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Clyde.
Chad Ochocinco
We gonna need to make a T shirt for ISO that says that don't make y' all no bad brother.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
It don't.
Chad Ochocinco
We already know, though. Oh, yo, soccer has so much flopping, it's hard to enjoy every play player looking like Ricky getting in. The boys in the hood. All right, so welcome to Free Cap Number One Podcast, hands down.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, it looked like flopping, but you. You wouldn't understand unless you're right there getting kicked again, stepped on. You know, sometimes them boys, they be hurt for real.
Chad Ochocinco
Other times.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I call it a tactical. A tactical timeout joke. You know them out.
Chad Ochocinco
No.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah. They get a little break, they give
Joe Johnson
themselves a little break. I call it a tactical timeout. You know, let everybody get some rest. Also, it's a Slow down the momentum, right?
Chad Ochocinco
The question we all should be asked. It should. We all should be asking, and he should be asking himself is why is JB always on the trading block? I think dude is toxic in the locker room. I don't know. This is what I do know, is that the Celtics do not value Jalen Brown like they value Jason Tatum. We can come up with speculation, conjecture, and innuendo because this is what we do know that has been factual. Jason Tatum name has never come up in a trade discussion. Every year Multiple times. Some years, Jalen Brown name has come up in a trade discussion.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
It's really that simple.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Facts.
Chad Ochocinco
And I don't know why he's upset at us for covering it or us for talking about it when his organization has put it out there. And remember, he was in the trade for Giannis. But they. Jimmy has them said, so it had to be true because Jimmy had them said. He just felt that it might be a situation where he might be unhappy in a year. And we're right back in a situation we find ourselves in now. That's what now it could. He could have just been making it up, but I don't know why he would make it up. They had the scenarios. They said it's two between two teams. Yan is going Boston and. And Miami. Now you hear reports being reported that Boston is still looking to find a potential trade partner for Jaylen Brown. That's not us. We're not making that up.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
More time. And it says, well, ESPN was talking about, you know, I put my house on the market. Did you? It'd be the same thing. Let's just say for the sake of argument, if Miles Garrett had put his condo or his house on the market, you don't think that would have been new? You don't think we'd have talked about that, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. You think we'd talked about that?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
When LeBron was a click, they talked about, well, LeBron was looking for a house in. In Philly. LeBron was looking for a house in LA. It's gonna be news, bro.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You're a top player in the NBA. It is what it is. OO305 represented that versus with Pretty Ricky putting BTA to B2K.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I watched a little bit of that. I don't know who won. I watched a little bit of, like, the start of it. I didn't. Okay, I'm trying to watch. I'm trying to watch the Versus B2K and Pretty Ricky. And I'm trying to watch soccer. I'm trying to. Yeah, I can't keep up with all this. Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Happy birthday. What's your guy's favorite birthday memory?
Joe Johnson
Well, I don't even celebrate my birthday. I'm the wrong one to ask.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't sell. I don't celebrate mine either.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I said pray at 11:59, Uncle Joe, and I'm good. I tell my kids, don't ask me to go nowhere. Bring me a cigar. Bring me some. Bring me some coffee, and I'm good.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, I, I, I'm normally pretty chill. I mean, outside of probably my 25th birthday, like I told y' all I had. Who was that? Jagged Edge came performing in my 25th birthday.
Joe Johnson
Boy, you got money, Joe?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, back up, baby. They came to Little Rock and tore it down, boy. Hey, hey, ain't gonna lie. It was nice. It was nice.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't really celebrate, but I'm hoping somebody go do the meek.
Erin Andrews
Me.
Chad Ochocinco
Me. Let me stop, man.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah, they do it.
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Chad Ochocinco
Big three, salute. Slim again. Unc. Nick's won the chip, so that means the Cowboys can win it all as well. Let that sink in. Tolerance equal production.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hey, look, I know y' all don't want to hear that. I know you don't want to hear that, but keep it real. If that happened, boy, to change the landscape of, of the NFL, you want
Chad Ochocinco
to change the landscape of Nightcap. You want to come over here? That's what he want to do, Joe. OO now he think he slick.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Hold on, hold on. If OO could get lucky in basketball. You mean? Tell me I can't, man.
Joe Johnson
Please.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Let's go.
Joe Johnson
Got lucky, so I've been lucky all season long. What you talking about?
Chad Ochocinco
First of all, Jim Dolan got out the way. Is Jerry Jones gonna get out the way? Nope. Maybe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Never know. Never know.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, Norway and France play on Friday. Who do you got winning? And how do you think France will defend Holland?
Joe Johnson
And you. You know what? France's back line is so good, they're gonna have to be on point. They're physical, they're strong. They could, they can match Holland strength for strength. Shoot high. Is nobody gonna stop? How they gonna deal with Mbappe and Duet and Dembele and Barcola when he comes on? So that's, that's. Man. Joe, you seen Friends play yet?
ISO (Joe Johnson)
No, I ain't seen them play.
Joe Johnson
You seen France play yet?
Chad Ochocinco
I see a little bit of them. Yeah, they're good.
Joe Johnson
Watch Friends play, Joe.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay?
Joe Johnson
Watch the difference. I love, I love usa. I, I love us. But watch the difference in skill and technique and quality of the players at every position. When you watch Friends play, Joe, it's almost unfair.
Chad Ochocinco
It's.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Is that, is that big of a difference?
Joe Johnson
It's almost unfair. And I'm, I'm saying that we need
Chad Ochocinco
to get some of their players to defect to the usa.
Joe Johnson
I'm saying it in a respectful way.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Every, Every position.
Joe Johnson
Them boys like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know how attractive. Feel like a lot of these countries, they'll go get the Kenyans runners or they try to get the Chinese table tennis players to come and, you know, we. Hey, go get y' all to just come on over here. Yeah, we do. Do some of the soccer players like that. I don't know why the chat want to act like y' all playing size on certain issues. Y' all just call it like y' all see it ain't nothing wrong with that, but it's their play. It's their favorite. Guys see people get back. Oh, y' all don't like AJB no. Get mad at the Celtics. They put his ass on the trade block, not us. Our job is to talk about it, right? Don't get mad. Cause we're talking about a situation, be it AB Or Brandon. IU is their behavior. We're discussing their behavior. Yeah, I don't know what y'.
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All.
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all don't. If we talk about something, we shouldn't talk about it. If we don't, y' all ain't talk about this. If we don't talk about something, Ocho and Joe, then you get mad about that. So I don't really know what y' all want us to do. You ain't talked about this, you ain't talked about that. I don't care about nobody. No extra marital affair. That ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Yeah, we don't talk about no extra marital affairs on here. I mean, we might pull up. We might pull up something with somebody having a conversation. Well. Well, the lady wouldn't let her kid go to Disney because the parent wouldn't take all the other kids. Or the lady threw the food out. The lady. Because we're having. We're having a conversation. Like, you didn't bring food for the other four kids that's not yours. So I'm not gonna let your child eat this burger because you could have bought food for everybody. We would discuss stuff like that. But an extramarital affair? Man, please. Happy 58th birthday. 58. Feeling great. If she ain't 280, you can't participate. Nah, bro. You know, Unc ain't what he used to be. What he used to be.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
What you mean?
Chad Ochocinco
I had to. You know, I had.
Tony Ayo
I had.
Chad Ochocinco
You know. Hey, I got. If you're too old, I gotta put you on that zimpit. I gotta get.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Oh, okay.
Tony Ayo
Hey.
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Chad Ochocinco
It used to be bad. I'm just like
ISO (Joe Johnson)
that. Like, dang.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm like, dang. I'm lifted. Hey, I ain't as much a man as I used to be, but, you
ISO (Joe Johnson)
know,
Chad Ochocinco
Well, I sure looking forward to this old birthday. What's up, big three? Ocho? I'm just getting into soccer. Can you speak on how good Ronaldinho was and why he isn't mentioned more in the goat conversation?
Joe Johnson
I mean, Ronaldinho's career was short. His peak was the highest of all peaks, but it was really short. But he was a magician on the ball, man. He was a magician. He probably was a. He was a party, party, party, party guy, you know, go to the club, come, come out. Lead the club. Eight in the morning, go to practice, train.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Damn, Joe.
Joe Johnson
He was unbelievable. Joe. Basically the best way I could describe it in, in basketball terms is Kyrie with his handles, with the ball at his feet, a little bit more flair. Oh, and played with a smile. He did things that were. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
I just remember that tail hanging down. Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. All right, Joe. It's just. If you get a chance, Joe, just google Ronaldinho highlights. Ronaldinho's highlights. Just watch what he do with the ball at his feet. It's. It's stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid. He does the kind of stuff you do in practice.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Get away with it in practice and mess up. It's okay.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Okay.
Joe Johnson
It's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you guys for joining us. As the USA closed that group play with a loss to Turkey 3 2. Turkey scores a late goal in extra time and they but the USA advance to the round of 32. They play Bosnia, Bosnia and Herzogenia in the round of 32 with a chance to advance to the the round of 16. So let's hope they can pull that off. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own the Bingo Ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big three, the University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawk, the big bucket taker, the big bucket maker that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to leportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It's the premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market and it drinks like an exo without the price. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, the US Mid lose their final game in group play to Turkey 3 to 2. Turkey scores a late goal in extra time and but they do not advance. The U.S. advance to the round of 32 and they play Bosnia and Herzogenia on the 1st, which is Wednesday. So let's hope, let's go cheer those guys on and hopefully they can advance to the round of 16 again. Thank you guys everybody that wished me a happy birthday. Early birthday it is now. Yeah, it's my birthday today, so I'm officially 58 years of birthday, 58 years young. Y' all know who I am. I'm that is Ocho. That is ISO. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you on Saturday. Hopefully y' all know your boy could get live.
ISO (Joe Johnson)
Yeah yeah yeah.
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Date: June 26, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho), and Joe “ISO” Johnson
Podcast: Nightcap
This episode dives deep into some of the biggest controversies in current sports headlines, focusing primarily on the felony charges facing Lions’ cornerback Terrion Arnold and the escalating drama surrounding Brandon Aiyuk's actions amid his ongoing contract saga. The hosts, drawing from rich personal experience and their signature authenticity, give candid takes on personal responsibility, team culture, reputation management, and how individual choices impact the broader Black athlete community. The episode also features segments on the BIG3, NFL and NBA player comparisons, Q&A from fans, and candid reflections on retirement, legacy, and current events in sport.
[02:59–14:27]
Summary of Allegations:
Ocho details the arrest of Detroit Lions cornerback Terrion Arnold in Tampa, FL, in connection with an alleged armed robbery and kidnapping (02:59). Police allege Arnold orchestrated the event with associates, who live-streamed the attack to him and followed his instructions via group chat.
“Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, Joe… You’re in the NFL, guys. You’re professional.” (Chad Ochocinco, 04:22)
Candid Host Reactions:
“You work your entire life to get in this situation. Why do you need to keep it real?” (Chad Ochocinco, 04:53)
“If I got homeboys that are willing to do that, I gotta let them go, because it’s only a matter of time.” (Chad Ochocinco, 06:38)
Notable Quotes:
“When you got the most to lose, you gotta be the most logical.” (Chad Ochocinco, 07:30)
“They say this happened in February, so this was a long investigation… Here we are in late June. So basically four months. They’ve done their due diligence.” (Chad Ochocinco, 07:15)
“I hope this is a big misunderstanding. I hope this young man with so much promise in front of him… Lord, I hope this isn’t true.” (Chad Ochocinco, 08:25)
[18:18–27:46]
Recap:
Ocho brings up recent viral videos of 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk, including him tossing money around and promoting tickets on the Commanders’ website — interpreted as a shot at the 49ers (18:18).
ISO and Ocho dissect how “acting out” on social media impacts both the individual and collective reputation of Black athletes.
Respect and Business:
“The most important thing in life always… is the relationships you build along the way. You never want to burn no bridges.” (Joe Johnson, 24:06)
“We’re the only group of people that one individual… reflects negatively on all of us.” (Chad Ochocinco, 20:17)
Broader Cultural Impact:
[30:48–33:01]
[36:45–79:40]
Retirement Moments (39:15–41:44):
NBA Finals ‘Blunders’: Magic vs. LeBron
Running Back “Start, Bench, Cut” Debate: Zeke, Todd Gurley, Le’Veon Bell
On Jalen Brown’s Trade Rumors (68:44–69:19):
Ochocinco on the Need for Logic:
“When you got the most to lose, you gotta be the most logical.” (07:30)
ISO on Aftermath and the Inner Circle:
“When the thought… or emotion is hot, the solution — logic is low.” (06:29)
On Arnold’s Situation:
“You work your entire life to get in this situation. Why do you need to keep it real?” (Ocho, 04:53)
On Social Media:
“Sometimes… it don’t help us, man. We’re the only group… it reflects negatively on all of us.” (ISO & Chad, 20:13–20:17)
Hosts Swapping Robbery Stories:
“You think you lost something… you looking for stuff… You know damn well you ain’t keeping watches in the refrigerator!” (Ochocinco, 12:00–13:04)
On Gun Collections:
“I like to go to the range, do my thing… I ain’t no killer, but don’t push me.” (ISO, 15:49–16:08; quoting 2Pac’s vibe)
On Celebrating Birthdays:
“Just bring me a cigar, some coffee, and I’m good.” (Joe, 70:39)
If you missed this episode, you’ll walk away with a deeper look at how today’s sports headlines intersect with culture, community, and life wisdom—filtered through brutally honest, often hilarious, and always heartfelt conversations.