Nightcap Hour 2: Chet Holmgren went MIA + Bettor WINS $1.7 MILLION + Knicks x Spurs FINALS REMATCH + Cam Boozer NUMBER 1 Pick?! + Suns BEAT Sparks + Haley Van Lith Signs to Suns Development Roster

Summary

Nightcap Podcast – Hour 2 [May 31, 2026]

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, ISO Joe Johnson
Main Theme:
A fast-moving, wide-ranging NBA postseason breakdown and lively sports talk, with key focus on the Spurs’ big win, Finals matchup with the Knicks, major betting news, disappointing playoff performances (especially Chet Holmgren), debates over player value, draft prospects, WNBA updates, and deep dives into team culture, sports business, and player mentality.

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1. Historic Parlay Pays Out Big & Betting Conversations

[02:37–05:57]

• Headline: A bettor turns $2,500 into $1.7 million by letting a wild four-leg parlay ride through Spurs’ Game 7 victory.

• Debate: Would you cash out early ($612,000) or ride it out for the full payout?

  • Unc (03:19): “I'ma let it ride... If I got enough to be able to bet like that.”
  • ISO Joe (04:07): “If I spent $2,500, you can cash me out for $600K... What I’m being greedy for?”

• Memorable Moment: Ochocinco jokes: "Joe, we already know Ocho ain’t pulling out. He got eight kids. He don’t pull out a parking spot." [03:49]

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2. NBA Finals Set: Spurs vs. Knicks – Ticket Prices & Legacy

[05:59–11:14]

• Finals Matchup: Knicks’ first Finals since 1999 vs. Spurs’ first since 2014.

• Insane Ticket Prices:

  • Entry level hits $4,201 for Game 3 at the Garden.
  • “First time an NBA playoff ticket has surpassed the get-in price for a Super Bowl ticket.” – Ochocinco [08:09]

• Bench Matchups & Team Analysis:

  • Spurs’ bench praised for depth.
  • Emphasis on defense (OG Anunoby, Mikal Bridges, Hart, Keldon Johnson, Mitch Robinson…).
  • ISO Joe (07:54): “Y’all know Wimby keeping receipts now. He was pissed off that Shai got the MVP. You don’t think he pissed off the Knicks beat them in the NBA Cup?”

• Cultural Weight: Long-suffering Knicks fans justify going to extraordinary lengths for tickets.

  • "People say, you know what? I might not ever see this moment again." – Ochocinco [11:10]

Notable Quote

"This is going to be a great defensive matchup... it’s going to be some kind of fun." – Ochocinco [07:20]

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3. Sports Business & Ticket Culture – Who Gets In & Why

[11:15–16:33]

• Star Fans & Season Ticket Holders:
  Are celebrities like Spike Lee and Tracy Morgan actually shelling out $25k+ for courtside playoff seats? Panel debates realities.

  • Season ticket holders get first rights, but playoffs are a different game.
  • NBA/NFL often reclaim tickets/suites for major events, resell at premium prices.

• Scarcity & Scalping:
  Teams are simply matching street value.

  • "NFL found out what people were paying on the black market for tickets... So if you're gonna pay them for it, pay us for it." – Ochocinco [10:05]

• Fan Displacement:
  Are diehard, regular-season fans priced out?

  • "Now you come to the playoffs and you almost price out the die-hard Knicks fans..." – Unc [16:01]

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4. Mitchell Robinson’s Mysterious Pinky Injury

[21:03–24:09]

• Injury Uncertainty:
  Knicks center Robinson has a broken pinky, but reportedly not from basketball.
• Speculation:
  Ocho claims: “Probably a physical altercation of some sort.”
  Joe counters: could be accidental, extracurricular, or even water sports.
• Lighthearted Banter:
  "I don't think he was fighting, Ocho."
  "You can't judge a book by its company..."
  "When it comes out, I want y’all to know!"

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5. NBA Draft Deep Dive: Boozer vs. Debonza vs. Peterson

[24:20–31:44]

• Cam Boozer – Analytics Darling:

  • Expected to get #1 pick buzz as a projected “20-10 guy from Day One.”
  • All modern analytics models favor Boozer.
  • Ocho’s take: “Damn analytics, man. Turn on the film.”

• AJ Debonza – Eye-Test Favorite:

  • Joe (27:35): “If I'm the GM... I’m taking AJ first, bro. At 6’9”, the man led college basketball as a freshman at 25 points a game…an elite repertoire of offensive skills.”
  • Made plays without fellow five-star teammates, facing double/triple teams.
  • Hosts reflect on past dominant freshmen (Durant, Beasley) and the real challenge of NBA transition.

• Mentorship/Maturity Theme:

  • Beasley’s career arc used as a cautionary tale: “He never had mentorship… In the pros they’re not gonna babysit you.” – Ochocinco [34:44]

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6. Women’s Basketball & Developmental Contracts

[43:54–47:52]

• Connecticut Sun Beat Sparks:

  • Anissa Morrow's fourth straight double-double, WNBA leads in double-doubles.

• Haley Van Lith Signs Developmental Contract:

  • News surprises panel; debate over why clear “bucket getters” can’t stick on rosters.
  • “It got to be something we don’t know…” – Ochocinco [44:35]
  • Panel compares to Cam Thomas situation: talent doesn’t always guarantee opportunity or fit.

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7. Realities of Pro Athlete Life & Work Ethic

[48:00–66:18]

• Practice Squad, Roster Battles:

  • Discussion on NFL practice squad life, patience, and professionalism.
  • “You gotta be a real pro to come to work every day knowing, damn, I ain’t playing.” – Joe [48:42]
  • Contrast between guys who ball at practice vs. those who deliver under game pressure.

• Work Ethic & Distractions:

  • Stories of teammates cutting their own careers short: too much phone time, not enough playbook study.
  • “Better learn to play it before they play you, man.” – Unc [58:21]
  • Love for the process is the key, not love for fame or perks.

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8. Q&A and Fan Engagement

[66:18–86:51]

• Call-in and Chat Highlights:

  • Chet Holmgren’s playoff “disappearing act” becomes a meme.
  • Fan debate on the legitimacy of Ocho’s picks; Ocho stands his ground as “King Ocho.”
  • Multiple jokes about Chet’s case of the yips vs. “alien” Wembanyama.
  • “Ocho, you don’t know ball” vs. “The people have spoken!” banter.
  • Trade hypotheticals abounding (Chet, Dort, Giannis, etc.)

• Analytics vs. Eye Test Redux:

  • “Analytics are for guys that couldn’t play the game… A way to get into the game.” – Ochocinco [75:38]
  • “Analytics don’t take into account momentum, crowd, home or away…” – Ocho [75:52]
  • [85:46] Quick math lesson: why teams now live and die by three-point attempts.

• Banter and Trash Talk:

  • “Chet’s gotta go. Trade Chet. JDub. Two bench press players. Five first-rounders for Giannis. Damn, everything.” – Rapid-fire chat comment [88:58]
  • Shoutouts: “Happy 10th birthday, Kobe Lee!” [87:36]

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9. WNBA & Women's Basketball Deep Dive

[43:54–47:52]

• Connecticut Sun vs. Sparks Recap:
  • The Sun snap their three-game losing streak.
  • Anissa Morrow’s double-double streak and impact.
• Haley Van Lith’s Struggles:
  • Signs on Connecticut’s "developmental roster" after being waived, drawing parallels to NBA journeyman situations.
  • Frustration over talented players being cut.

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10. Player Psychology, Maturity, and Motivation

[61:57–66:18]

• Staying Focused

  • Panel discusses distractions (phones, nightlife), mental toughness, and paying attention to detail.
  • "To have longevity, you gotta get lost in this thing. You have to really love getting your ass up in the morning and putting in that work." – ISO Joe [62:46]

• Burnout and Exiting the League

  • Reflection on seeing many “come and go” who couldn’t adjust to pro lifestyle.
  • "They love what the game allows them to have... not the grind."

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11. Chet Holmgren & OKC's Collapse vs. Spurs’ Rise

[67:31–72:43; 74:13–88:58]

• Fan reactions brutal on Chet Holmgren’s performance:

  • General consensus: Holmgren was a major letdown vs. Wembanyama (“a walking $200 million dollar disgrace”).
  • Multiple jokes about trading Chet.

• Spurs’ Key Role Players:

  • Cornette’s block lauded as "the play of the night" that swung the series.

• Wembanyama MVP & Spurs’ International Appeal

  • “Wimby’s going to bring the international market in.” – Ochocinco [18:47]

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12. NBA Culture: Analytics, Play Styles, and Trade Rumors

[85:37–91:22]

• Analytics Shaping Game Style:

  • More 3’s, fewer mid-range shots. Steph Curry effect.
  • “If I make 15 threes you gotta make 22 twos.”

• Trade Machine Hijinks:

  • Fans (and hosts) propose wild OKC trade packages for Giannis, heightened by Holmgren's struggles and J-Dub’s injury.

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13. Locker Room Culture & Identity

[93:03–95:50]

• Shannon Sharpe Explains His “Locker Room Leader” vs. Introvert Persona

  • Feels more comfortable and outspoken in a structured setting with teammates than in public.
  • “Hate is lonely – people want company in misery.”

• Social Media & Rumors:

  • Wariness of being misunderstood or gossiped about.

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14. Closing Thoughts & Standout Quotes

• Panel Recap:

  • Ochocinco basks in successful playoff predictions (“Let the people decide!”).
  • Celebratory mood for Spurs fans, appreciation for competitive Finals matchup, respect for both Spurs’ young core and Knicks’ long wait.

• Memorable Barbs:

  • "Cornette blocked that shot the same way he blocked Magic City night in Atlanta." – Chad [78:00]
  • "I give up – for now on, I give Chet-type performances." – Chad [96:34]

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Episode Notables & Moments

• Best Quotes:

  • “Analytics are for guys who couldn’t play the game…” – Ocho [75:38]
  • “To have longevity, you gotta get lost in this thing.” – ISO Joe [62:46]
  • “Wimby keeping receipts.” – Joe [07:54]
  • “Mitchell Robinson's pinky? Had to be a physical altercation.” – Ocho [21:38]

• Highlight Banter:

  • Ochocinco’s running playoff prediction success.
  • Wild trade proposals.
  • Riffs on player development, NFL/NBA practice squad life, and importance of mentorship.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Big Bet Payout/Parlay Story: [02:37–05:57]
• Finals Ticket Prices & Matchup: [05:59–11:14]
• Season Ticket/Scalping Discussion: [11:15–16:33]
• Mitchell Robinson Injury: [21:03–24:09]
• Draft Prospects Debate: [24:20–31:44]
• WNBA, Van Lith, Player Development: [43:54–47:52]
• Player Work Ethic & Longevity: [48:00–66:18]
• Fan Q&A, Chet Holmgren Roast: [66:18–88:58]
• Analytics: Love/Hate: [75:35–86:01]
• Locker Room Leadership vs. Introvert: [93:03–95:53]
• Playoff Predictions Bragging: [77:37–78:17]

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Conclusion

This episode of Nightcap delivers trademark rapid-fire sports banter, strong personalities, and deep dives into the realities behind the headlines. From historic betting wins to hot takes on player value and draft picks, the show balances entertainment and analysis, all filtered through the chemistry and lived experience of three former pros unafraid to “talk their ish.” If you missed it, you missed a night when the Spurs punched their Finals ticket, Chet Holmgren’s struggles became legend, and Ocho reaffirmed his “King Ocho” status in the land of predictions—while rich, very real sports business truths and life lessons filled the breaks between jokes.

Transcript

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

What'd you got?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

A better turned 2500 dollars into 1.7 million today after the spurs one game seven. The four leg future to parlay placed in on February 14, had already cashed on the US men's hockey team win gold. Michigan win the NCAA tournament. The Knicks win the Eastern Conference. Now, the cash payout, had he taken it early, was 612,000. But the better said, nah, I'm gonna let it ride. Damn, Joe, what would you have done? Ocho, you bet 2,500. You got 6 12. If you take it right now, you letting it ride or you cashing out.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm let it ride. I'm gonna let it ride because if I got enough, if I got enough to be able to bet like that,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I might bet 2500.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He only bet 2500.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Wait. Only. Wait. Everybody ain't got 2500.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Stop. You know damn well somebody bet, they bet 25. Look at the odds.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The hockey team had to win gold. Yeah. Michigan had to win the tournament. The Knicks had to win the east. And the Spurs. And the spurs had to win the Western Conference.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

So you take. You taking it out. You pulling out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna even lie to y'.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Cashing out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Joe, we already know Ocho ain't pulling out. He got eight kids. Yeah, that man don't pull out a parking spot. He sitting there all day. Stop it. You know damn well Ocho ain't pulling out.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You got to understand that. You know, all that, all that was premeditated. This was a plan. But go ahead, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna keep it real. I'm probably gonna take mine up. If I spent $2,500, you can cash me out for 600. For 600kk. Man, what I'm being greedy for? What I'm being greedy for, fellas?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You right, Joe. You right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You staying in there. Keep it 100.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hell no, Joe. I gotta pay longer.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hard, man. Come on. They telling you, you, you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You like Joe, you gonna be sick. They with that game you took that. You say, man, I left a hundred a damn. A million dollars on the table.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Uncle, I paid $2,500 for the damn ticket. And you mean tell me I get 600k? I ain't gonna be that pissed off. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

See, I ain't. I ain't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna be greedy. I'mma gonna take what I. I'm gonna Go and take what I can get.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, I know, I know you gonna take it. Cause you picked the Thunder, so you gotta take it. I probably would have taken two now that I already picked the Thunder. But here's the thing. You and I, we wouldn't have picked the Thunder because we had already cashed the be out. Already made the bet 2,500 that the spurs was going to win.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, boy, listen, what you f. Say, ojo? What you, what you going to do?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, I, I, I don't, I ain't got my betting slip on, but you know, you know, I bet. You know I've been betting to pay all these series. Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You wouldn't. You ain't.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Why did DJ bet no money?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I did. I'mma show you my slip.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, don't nobody wear no slip but Grandma's. And I know you ain't got none, right?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I want me a cool 20, 25 grand.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Did you really?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I was betting that. Wait, I'm, Wait, I'm not allowed to say that because I'm not. But yeah, yeah, I can't, I can't say the name.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, all right, all right. Say lift.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I can't mess up my bag now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay, Nick.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Spurs 1999 rematch. New York Knicks returned to the NBA Finals for the first time since 1999. The San Antonio spurs returns to the NBA Finals for the first time since 2014. Get in price for the NBA Finals. Game one is $2021. In San Antonio, game two is $2447. In game three at the Knicks is $4201. That's the get in price.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's the mother. Yeah, that's in the rafter. Hell.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Game four, 3,788. That's get in you up there. And game five, San Antonio is 3,070. In game six in New York is 5,244.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, ain't this the World cup rematch too?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Which way?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The American. Ain't this the cup rematch? Didn't they played each other?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, they played the NBA Cup. Yes, yes, yes.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Who won the NBA Cup?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The knee.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The Knicks. Okay, I think you know what? They did win. Both teams are better. The question is the Knicks bench is going to be called on and they're going to need to come up because you see, you see the spurs bench what they're capable of.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Kelvin Johnson, Carter Bryant, Dylan Harper, Cornette. I think Cornetta had a little easier time probably dealing with Mitchell Robinson gonna have to keep him off the glass. Cause Mitch is looking to get them second chance points. Yeah, but this is going to be a great defensive matchup because we know OG can defend. We know Mikhail Bridges can defend Hart. So it's going to be. It's going to be. Ooh. It's going to be some kind. It's going to be some kind of fun.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This is going to be a good one. It's going to be a good one. Fellas. You got. Y' all know. Y' all know Wimby keeping receipts now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was pissed off that Shay got the mvp.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He was pissed off. So if you don't think he pissed off that, that, that the Knicks beat them in the NBA cup and he coming for revenge.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I like it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They better be ready.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I. I think the Knicks price as first time an NBA playoff ticket has surpassed the get in price for a Super bowl ticket. Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, this the Knicks, man. Hey, speaking of, y' all want to go to a game?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I tell you what. Let the Cowboys make it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, I'm gonna say what to get in price gonna be

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cowboys making them in there.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You said who make it?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The Cowboys.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

What y' all playing Madden?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, come on, bro, stop hating.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm just asking. I'm being realistic, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We being realistic, Joe. You go, you gonna get off that kind of money. Oh, I know you ain't sitting in the rafter, Joe, so you have to. You're gonna come lose that money, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm. I'm sitting in Jerry Jones suite.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, Joe, you know Jerry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, what's up? What'd you need?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, I don't need nothing. You know Jerry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's alumni, man. You know, that's Arkansas alumni.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, that's right. Jerry did go to Arkansas, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, with Jerry and Stephen Jones and all them. We gonna be up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You'll be in the box.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, you can, you know, you come hang out with us, unc. I got you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, man, it's all that walking to get in.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's hell going to them games.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, nah, uncle, you good. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, we can put uncle in the wheelchair. Uncle, we'll roll you in there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

At least get your boy a golf cart. I went to the. I went to the Cincinnati and the Rams super bowl, and so far I did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How was that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It was good. I mean, I think Cincinnati might have had just as many fans as damn the Rams.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, we travel good. We travel well.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now they do. Y' all do. But man, these prices man did that because. You know why they do this, Joe? Why? The NFL found out what the what people were playing on the black market for tickets. So they said if you will play that on the black market, we might as well just go ahead and put the $4,000, 5,007, 8, $10,000 on the ticket price. Yeah, since you're gonna pay them for it, pay us for it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And. And it's the Knicks, fellas. It's the Knicks and the Spurs. They gonna.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Them New Yorkers, they paying it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Only a select few can afford them courtside seats in New York.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now the mere fact that it's costing 4,000 to get in. Oo that's in the. That's in the rafters. Yeah, that's just to get into the building. Boy, you know people what people are sacrificing to go to get that, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

To be able to say they was in the building.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

This been since what, 99, bro, that's 20 what, 27 years.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, it's been a minute. It's been a minute, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

People say, you know what? I might not never. I might not ever see this moment again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell no. Real talk. Hey hey. I guess the alien too gonna be nice.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey hey, uncle won the fight tonight.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't see.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah you know, for Ford and Foster fought tonight.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, for the black dude?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Knocked him out?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

No, I think so.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I think I saw a fight where they got that might have been was what's the little guy Teddy Atlas used to fight Used to fight on the with Teddy at the training Bradley. Was Bradley on the call?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Nah, I don't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That might have been somebody else.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, that might have been somebody else. Oh, okay. They say Foster one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, I'm so. But a four did win, but it must have been another fight. Yeah, and it might have been old 2000, man. Cause somebody oh, y', all. I sent you the thing. Somebody paid a quarter of a million for 2/4 50 center court.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, you know, when I think about it too, when you think about Knicks the Knicks tickets being that expensive, you think Tracy Morgan and Spike Lee really got to pay full price or they already got their tickets allotted season ticket holders. Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They don't pay that.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So they might Plan to pay 25. Let's just say for the sake of art, they play 2500. $3,000 a ticket. That's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You think they paying that right now. That's all they paying right now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Probably. So you gotta realize Spike, Spike has been spent season. I think Spike said he's been a season. He goes since 1970.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but UNC, they paying big money for them playoff tickets on after, after the season. Oh, with.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but, but I'm saying, I'm saying they're not paying what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Right. No.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So a subo, I mean probably, I would say somewhere maybe 7, $500.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know about that one.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, that's a 7, 500 course side. That's cheap.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But you got to realize, Ocho Joe, they're season ticket holders. So let's just say for the season, sort of for the sake of argument, I wanted tickets. I got tickets at the 50 yard line in the, in the court. Court level.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

NFL game.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I get an opportunity, I get an opportunity to buy those tickets.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Are you first?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I get an opportunity to buy them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes. So.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

And it's at market value too, at that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. So if the tickets are 7,500. So whatever, whatever, whatever the price of a courtside ticket is. So they, they're not charging 25,000 for, for a courtside ticket. Now for scalper, when you try to go to StubHub and get one, that's what, that's what they go to charge you. But you have to understand and, but the problem is the nfa, the NBA takes over all those seats, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So even though you're a season, you get first, you get right. A first refusal to it. But the NFL got it. I mean the NBA has it.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

See like those suites, if you have a suite in a stadium and the subO is in that stadium, that's not your suite. Nah. You have to buy that suite at the price that the NFL is selling it for. So it might be a million million five, $2 million. And it don't come with food. You got to pay for the food and the alcohol to come up in there too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, if I ain't mistaken, I think after the regular season, I think you got to pay extra for them damn playoff tickets though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, you do because the price. But you get first refusal because those are your seats.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I get that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, so you know how you like, okay, get your playoff tickets with your team going to the playoffs, they say get your playoff tickets. You get the right because as a season ticket holder now if you don't want them, guess what? Somebody else do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you can jack, jack up. They, they jack them prices up for you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And a lot of times that's what people do. People say, you know what? This will give me an opportunity to pay for my tickets all next year. So yeah, I go ahead. I miss this game. You.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And you got. It's a lot of people who buy courtside tickets just to sell them throughout the regular season.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And make more than what they've paid.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And pay for the season tickets next year.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Cuz you get a couple of games. Guess what? If I get an opportunity to see LeBron, I get an opportunity to see Steph, you know, something like that. Or the Celtics and, and, and the Lakers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Somebody gonna pay top dollar for that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Because at the end of the day that's what you want to see. Especially if you're a bad team. Everybody playing to see who coming to town.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm looking at Steph, I'm looking at LeBron, I'm looking at Giannis. Yo. Hey.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You know, it's almost unfair, especially for the Knicks fans that, that have supported the team all season long. Now you come to the playoffs and in a sense you almost price pricing out the die hard Knicks fans that's been supporting the team the entirety of the season with the price. That expensive.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, they don't care nothing about that. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ojo, you know how this works.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I know how to business.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Think about it. All the, all them NFL sponsors, they get X amount of tickets.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So when you break it down. That's why Alex Gilt said, look here, man, this game right here, they're gonna be 75, 000 people in this stadium.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

35 000. Are there 30, 25, 30,000. There's gonna be drunk before kickoff. 25, 30,000 of hours gonna be drunk before kickoff. And the rest are corporate. So what are we talking about here? Yeah, I mean you're not getting a home game like you would in Cincinnati, like you would in Dallas, like we would in Denver or Kansas City or Baltimore. That ain't how it is.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean a lot of these teams, a lot of these. Oh, I, I like this team because I'm going to the Super Bowl. I gotta root for somebody that might not even be that team. Ocho and Joe.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I gotta root for somebody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Cause who goes to the game and don't root for nobody. But I don't really care. Why you going.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Spend all that money for them tickets and. Please.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but they have, they priced a lot of the. Especially the Super Bowl. That's the biggest Event. But, Ocho, like I said, you paying that money on the black market. The NFL said you playing on the back market. You might as well get it on on the get. And you know exactly where your tickets are. You know, ain't no bull jive. Straight up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Let's go, Knicks, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's who you. That's who you got. You got the Knicks winning it.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Nixon 6. I' ma eat me a Twix, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What are we talking about?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Listen to. Listen. Listen to me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He feeling. He feeling good, don't you?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you already know it. You're already good now. Hey, I seen the man on here 30 minutes before we supposed to get on. I said, damn.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. Hey, I was bright and early, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They looked like he was looking dead at the camera waiting for somebody to get on here.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I was. I was. Hey, for a first game. Knicks. Knicks winning the first game. Anybody in the chat. Yo, y', all. Y' all bet. Listen to your boy now in San Antonio, man, Nick's winning the first game. Nixon's. Nixon 6. Huh? Eat your Twix.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, we gonna find out. We gonna find out. But if you want to go, hey, if San Antonio hadn't been in since 2014, the Knicks hadn't been in 27 years. So hopefully you saved your money up and you get an opportunity to see your teams play. One hadn't seen. Hadn't been to the NBA Finals in a quarter century, and the other hadn't been in a decade plus, so should be a very interesting matchup. I think this is the best matchup they could have gotten. Yeah, in Wimby is going to bring an international market in. Yeah, People like Wimby. Yeah, the Thunder people. Look at the Thunder. They already over the Thunder. They might have had the. The shorter.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They. They were cute and cuddly. Oh, yeah. The Thunder. The Thunder. Yeah. They like. No, we tired of them. We tired of them already. Only one state, Joe. Oklahoma wanted the Thunder to win. Everybody else would go, go for the spurs, and then you got that big market, and then you got an alien.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I want seven games. If we get us seven games.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oo, I don't think gonna go seven. I'm gonna keep it real.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I'm glad you said that, Joe. Say it for. Say it with me, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm not. I'm not in favor of what you got going on. Oh, hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If the Knicks win in six, we got to put a muzzle on this boy.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, Joe, you don't have to put a muzzle on me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, we do.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, listen, I respect you, huh? You played the game at the highest level. You should know this stuff. You know the game from 1920. But the fact that. Okay, my bad, we're 1947. But the fact that I've been right the entirety of the playoffs, not just one game, not just two games, the entirety of the playoffs means y' all need to listen to me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, pat yourself on the back. Hell, what you want from us?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I. I don't want no pat on the back.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't want no cookie, okay?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I just want you to respect my ball knowledge, that's all.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They took them. Hey, Joe. Oho, they took them nuns. Okay, See, I told they gonna take the nun.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They took the nuns, Joe. I told you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Antonio. Hey, hey man, let's give them, give, give them their problems, bro. Give them their problem. They, they did that. They did that. I give them.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

According to athletic Mitchell Robinson did not sustain his broken pinky in a game or in practice. At the follow up question to Mike Brown about how Robinson actually got hurt. Nick's media relations stepped in to say we're not going to get into specifics. Shams reported on Friday that Robinson underwood a procedure to correct the broken right pinky and the hopes he'll be able to play in game one. Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Our resident freaky expert. What non basketball injury related could Mitchell doing mess up his pinky?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You know what? I'm not sure I'm thinking all I'm thinking of all the outdoor activities that you can do as a basketball player, just as a human in general, understanding the importance of the series you have coming up. Probably a physical altercation of some sort. That's probably what it is. And whatever happened is going to come out at some point. As much as he's like to keep it quiet and want to keep it hush hush, I'm sure he probably had a physical altercation because there's nothing that you can do where you can actually break your pinky and knee surgery.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think it was no physical altercation. I think he was probably doing something he knew he probably shouldn't have been doing if it didn't happen. If it didn't happen during like a basketball activity.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Maybe because they had so much time off. Uncle Ocho, he went and done a some type of extravaganza or something, you know what I mean? It could have been involving in doing some type of water sport or something. I'm just Speculating. I'm speculating. I don't know.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I told you what it was, Joe. What it had to be a physical altercation.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, he probably got a little fight or something. No, to break your. To break your pinky. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It can get caught on. It can get caught on something and you can break it.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, fighting.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I don't. He don't take me. I'm sorry. He don't take me for that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ocho Joe.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

And you know, you can't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You can't.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You can't judge a book by his company.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I get that. I get that. Oo, but I'm saying, I don't. I think he probably doing something else.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

All right, all right. When it come out, I want. Here we go again. Now. When it come out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now that man think. Hey, who you think you is now?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm just telling you because you have to think of the things you can do to actually break your finger.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's plenty of things you can do, Ocho, without. Without it being a physical altercation.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Ah, nah. Do you know how much force it has to be to break your pinky? To break any finger, to break anything in general?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It ain't hard to break your pinky, Ojo. No.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

All right, all right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you got? What you think he was doing?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I thought he broke it. I thought he had broke it in the game or something.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I thought he broke it in practice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what I thought in practice.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I was like, yeah, hell, that's the only thing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, probably horsing around. He probably was horse around. I don't know about fighting, but he was probably horsing around doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what I. That's what I take. That's what I think. But hell, here, hey, here, energy and effort. Guy ain't like he giving him no damn 20 and 10.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, he gonna play.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now he a body.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Tie up these two fingers right here and go to work.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Good.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The analytics people in every. In every front office have Cameron Boozer as the number one player in the draft, and he's expected to receive serious considerations for the number one and number two pick per draft Express. Draft Express says Boozer is an analytics darling. If you talk about the analytics people in front offices who have a lot of influence these days, 100% of them have Cam Boozer at the top spot in their draft model. I think he's going to be a 2010 guy from day one, and I think he's even going to run to potentially being an All Star as a rookie. Joe, do you like Boozer debonza Peterson for the number one overall pick?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like. Honestly Uncle Ocho I like when you

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like Booza, I like debonza, and I like Peterson. But hell if for if I'm the GM and this, I got my money on it. I'm taking AJ first, bro. I'm sorry. At 6 9, the man led college basketball as a freshman at 25 points a game. He shot 52. I think it was 52, 51 from the field. Man. Do you know how hard it is to score a damn 25 points a game in college when he run in zones and, and, and, and, and, and, and triple and double team, bro. This man has an elite repertoire of offensive skills, you know what I mean? I think he's only going to get better. I think when you drop him into the NBA next year or this, this upcoming season, this summer when he gets drafted, he'll be a guy who'll probably come in as a rookie on ocho and average about 22 a game. Yeah, I think he's, he's NBA ready right now. I like booze. I, I like the other kid from Kansas, but I, I, yeah, Darren Peterson. Aaron Peterson, but I, I like AJ better.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey. Damn analytics Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hello. That's what I'm talking about. That took over.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Talk about. Yep.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Turn on the film. It shows you exactly what you're getting. One of the few players going that early, Devonza you can put on any team and you give you 20.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes sir.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Based on the situation, based on circumstance, them facts.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Damn analytics, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You talking about from footwork to making guys around you better. I think he has all the tools to be that guy. And if you put him in Washington and you got AD and Trey and him,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I definitely think debonza and Boozer have NBA bodies right now. Yeah, that means something. 2010, could I see Boozer being a double double guy?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But AJ debonza looks special to me, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Talking about some damn analytics. They didn't took over the damn game. I'm serious, man. The eye test tells me from watching this kid, I'm like, look, bro, what can he not do? He didn't face crazy. He didn't face crazy double and triple teams throughout the season. He's showing you the repertoire he has in this game. I think the only thing he has to do now is to want to be a pretty good defensive player to where he can be a two way player. He would be great, bro. You put him in a situation where vets can really show him the ropes, man, he gonna be amazing, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The thing that I like about debonza, he wasn't playing along other side of the five stars, Right. See, Boozer had other five stars played alongside him, so you couldn't give him just your undivided attention.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Because those other guys were great, pretty good players also.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

With AJ debonza, that was it. I can focus all of this on you. And he's still able to get those numbers at the percentage in which he shot. And that's not a knock on can. That's not. Look, somebody got to go number one, bro. But for me, I'm taking. I would. I would. I would take. I would take AJ debons as well.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. When you look at what AJ done.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

When you look at what AJ Damasco's

[ISO Joe Johnson]

done his freshman year, it's only been a handful of guys who you can even put in that sentence. And one. And a couple of them is Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley. I'm talking about these dudes. They freshman year were unbelievable. AJ Fits right into that, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey. What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Beasley went to college.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He went to Kansas State.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

He was cutting up, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

His first game. He had a 40 20.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

The first game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, that boy was nasty in college, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He was. He was unbelievable.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I seen him play on. Yeah, I seen him play on several occasions. I seen him play. I think they were playing against Kansas. I think the boy only had, like, four points in the first half. Cause he was in foul trouble. Yeah, I think he had, like, 34 in the second half. Like I said, he in college, bro. When you can score that ball like that in college, man, that let me know a lot.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, he was. Didn't he win? I think he won. Did he win Play of the year? Was it what you call him? He won, I think, because he was in the draft with Derrick Rose. Yeah, he went first because Chicago, I believe in Chicago, doesn't have that pick. I think there. I think he goes first.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You think Beasley go first?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I know D. Rose ain't. His numbers wasn't Gotty like. Like Beasley's were. Yeah, but you could tell. You could tell he was gonna be something, but you probably right. Chicago one passing on. On a homegrown kid just like.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Just like. I don't care what you'd offer. Cleveland not giving up on LeBron James.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're just not.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, sir. No, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're not letting the hometown kid go, no matter who it is. If he in that draft and he a top three top. He taking him number one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So. So maybe if Washington had the number one pick that year, maybe they would take Beasley.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, they took. Be. Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He from the dmv. Absolute damn lutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. The boy got to it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, man, he was. He was. He was phenomenal, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You just got. I mean, Big 12 player, the NCAA rebounding champ.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He did everything.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

First team all American big 12 player of the year. First team all big 12. Even McDonald's all American game MVP.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. What. What happened while he was in the NBA? Yeah, he had a good career, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think. You know what I really think? I think because the game came so easy to be.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, you know, when you get to the pros, bro, you know you're gonna be tried and tested. Especially different situations you come into, you know, by him going to Miami, you know, I think he's even talked about it to where, you know, the situations he had with. With. With Pat Riley and Sposha, you know, some of the stuff he'd take back, you know, when you ain't really been. Been challenged. Uncle Ocho as a kid, and then you come into the NBA, a men's league. It's. It's some. It's some challenges you're gonna be facing, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes. I just think if he just needed mentorship. Yeah, he never got that at any level.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And the pros, bro, they not. They not babysitting you, bro. They not, Ocho. They just not.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, in college, they gonna. Hey, make. Hey, you got study hall, you got weightlifting, you got, you know, you got to come to practice. Yeah, he ain't doing none of that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell no. Hey, hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And when they grown, you got to grow up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And if they feel like they have to babysit your ass, if you're gonna

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

get your ass up out of there,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

gonna be short lived.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They're gonna get your ass up out of there. Cause with that kind of scoring ability, I mean, he averaged 26. He averaged 26 and 12 as a freshman. 26 and 12. Let that sink in for a second. 26 and 12. He was third in the nation in scoring. Led the nation to rebounding. I'm trying to think. There ain't been a whole lot of guys that led the nation to scoring the rebounds. I think Xavier McDaniel did it. And La Salle Thompson.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then you go into a situation like Miami where they already got D. Wade UD and all these dudes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Structure. He needed structure. He never had that growing up. Yeah, he had to be an adult before it was time, Ocho. And you, when you. You look, when you're talented, you get away with a lot of ish coming up.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now, you used to getting away with stuff. When there's somebody there to hold you accountable for that, how you gonna react? Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

When all your life. And then, you know, he's used to playing a certain way.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He wants to get up and down and they like. Nah, I mean, it kind of, you know, I'm telling you, I. I just. I just wish he had somebody in his corner. That's what some. Sometimes that's what. Man, you know, everybody ain't gonna be mature. Everybody. Everybody is not going to be mature at 17, 18 and 19. Yeah, they're not. I mean, but some people, it takes until the age of 23 or 25, 26. Some don't ever mature. Yeah, still. Still big ass kids at 30 plus, that's what he needed. He needed somebody in his corner.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, damn, that was. Hey, Joe. It sound like the perfect situation to me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, the thing is, Ocean D. Wade

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

there, that's a great mentor right there in itself.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But what I'm saying is the game was so easy for him that when you get to the pros, oh, you got dudes, bro, who got two, three kids, a family, they playing hard as. I don't know what. I hear you. You know what I mean? Like, it's. I'm telling you. I'm telling you because I played against Bees when he was in Miami. We played against him in the playoff series. And he. I mean, I think you may. It may have been his second year, but he could. They barely played him. They barely played him, bro.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This is when I was here for the Hogs. We beat y' all, too, by the way. Actually, that was the year. That was the year d. Wade averaged 30 points a game, bro. I think he. Did he win MVP that year? No, D. Wade never won mvp.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Mm.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Mm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just think he led the league.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nash won it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You was at the Hawks.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I was with the Hawks.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He led the league. What year you got to the Hawks?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got. I got there in 05, I think this was.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So Nash wanted in 4 and 5, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And so Kobe wanted in 6. LeBron wanted 9, 10. Rose wanted an 11. LeBron won at 12 13.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

This, this like 09 I'm talking about though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh 9 who won the MVP in 09? Let me go back. No, LeBron wanted a 9 10. So who wanted so who wanted in between.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because Nash won five it say LeBron. LeBron really playing with the calves.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He was 7889 he won 087889 nah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

0809 NBA most valuable player award.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

LeBron. Yeah, who wanted, who wanted in between LeBron and Nash? But besides I know Kobe won with 06. I think Kobe won.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So you saying oh what?

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Dirt.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. And then LeBron wanted after dirt, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Back to back years.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

2008, it was Kobe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I thought Kobe wanted in six, they

[ISO Joe Johnson]

say envy, NBA MVP.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And two, Kobe wanted. So Kobe wanted after dirt.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay. And then LeBron back to back years.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Then. Then Rose, then Braun again. And then kd.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, okay. And then Steph back to back years. And then Russ. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Then Harden. And then back to back years. Giannis.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm gonna stop playing. I ain't doing that with you no more, Joe. Go put that up. Joe. Put that up. Joe. Put that up. Joe. Put it up. Anissa Morrow has 17 points and 14 rebounds for her fourth consecutive game with a double W double double as the Connecticut Suns beat the Los Angeles Sparks 84 81. Morrow leaves the WNBA with seven double doubles. Connecticut had lost three in a row, all by double figures. Kelsey Plum, KP I girl missed her second consecutive game with an ankle injury. Neca Abumake has 3,315 career rebounds to move into a tie with Tamika catchings for 15, fifth on the WNBA career list. Look, I see Van Lift. She signed back with the Suns on the development team. Reading says she felt like that's the best place for her to develop. I was surprised considering how well she played in the limited minutes. She's a bucket getter.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The thing is, Joe, her, her offense is going to be her defense.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you saying she can't guard?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She ain't the best. She's not the best, is it? But I mean, she a bucket. Get a man, that lefty.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She is, bro. That's why I, I, I mean, bro, I feel like I'm playing. I'm, I'm paying pretty good attention to the women's game. You know, I, I, I, I've seen her play and the way she would moves out there on the court, it's just hard to believe, bro. That it's hard for her to stick on a roster.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

It got to be something we don't know. Hey, that's when you have a feel like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We said the same thing. About Cam Thomas, man. Go get bucky, get 30, 40 parts of the game and he can't stay the nasty there Milwaukee for two weeks and now he gone from there. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that, Joe.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You think he pissed somebody, Joe?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't know what he did.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Cam Thomas, he got somebody off.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know bro. But I think like his second game there he won a game for him in Orlando.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then next thing you know, he ain't really playing no more and then he gets cut. I really have. I. I honestly have no idea on, on, on that situation. But yeah, you're right, it's similar to that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But look, and what you call me been playing really well the Sparks but you know, look, their best player is down injured. It was going to be tough. Even though they did. The Suns had lost, you know, three or four games in a row without your best player. It's going to be hard. They got, they got all five starters within double figures. They got 12 from Guma K. They got Dorica Hamby had 11, Erica Wheeler had 13, Atkins has 16, Burrow has 16, Cameron Brink had two. Kate Martin two Ladson the South Carolina game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't think. You think Cameron Brinkstein really got over that? I think she wish she tore ACL

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

or something because she got skill.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She's slender built.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Can shoot to 3, can rebound. Got nice solid post move. I think it's gonna, I think it's gonna take a while for her to get. Get comfortable. Ain't no way at that skill level. She's supposed to be coming off the bench. But it is what it is until you prove they probably. I like it. I like it when a coach plays you based on your play.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not just where you was drafted at. Oh you. I'm supposed to be this and.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And thrusting you into a position that

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

you ain't ready for situation. No. Hell no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I agree. They probably bringing along slow.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Park guard Haley Van Lif signed to velvet player contract with the Connecticut son. That moves. Two days after Van L was waved by the sun, sources told ESPN that there were other opportunities available to Van Lith, but she felt standing Connecticut was the best fit for her immediate development and long term goals. Under the new collective bargain agreement, each team can sign two players with fewer than four years of service to a developmental roster spot. Anyone signed to these contracts can play a maximum of 12 games or as a season footprint increases, 25% of the regular season, whichever is greater. The annual Play for a developmental base salary is equal to 750 multiplied by the number of weeks in the regular season. Players could also receive active game bonuses.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So she going back. So she going back to the Connecticut.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She going back to the sun. She building the rock. Developmental, right. She can't play more than 12 games.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She can't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She cannot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Why,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

anyone signed to this type of contract can play a maximum of 12 games or as the season footprint increases, 25 of the regular season.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I don't understand that at all.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Me neither, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, look. Oh, they got guys. Guys. 10, 11 years in the league on. On practice squad. Yeah, you know, back practice squad used to be for like first, second, third, maybe a third year guy. Man, they got guys five, six, seven years on practice squad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, practice squad guys make good money.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah? Hell yeah. Between. Depending on the years, probably between 250 and 400, 000.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And all you got to do is just pay attention. Just pay attention. Study hard, work hard. You go out there and make plays and, hey, you might get thrust up, somebody get hurt. You go down, you go in. Yeah, they sign you to the active roster.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You gotta be a real pro to do that, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You do it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take a real professional. Because a lot of cats ain't. Ain't built like that. Y' all know, and I'm sure y' all seen a lot of cats who've been in certain situations and, hell, had they had a work. Some work ethic, you know, and they number was called, you know, they probably would have had a real chance. But, boy, you gotta be a real pro to come to work every day knowing, damn, I ain't playing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're not getting in the game, you're not gonna play on Sunday, you're not gonna dress, and when they leave, they're gonna leave you. They go on the road, they're gonna leave your ass on. And for the most part, I don't know. Oh, yo, do practice squad guys. Because normally practice squad guys had to sit in the stands. They didn't. They weren't able to be on the sideline.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Now when we. When we played, they would always. They would always dress out. Not. They were in the Bangles gear. Not. Not the actual. You know what I mean? They'd be on the sideline, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, they be. They practice hard, though.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah, Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's how Rod Smith made it. Rod Smith was on the practice squad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And then he became. Yeah. The greatest receiver in Broncos history. He worked his ass off that's why every day he got better. That's why no matter what you. What you need him to do, he run down on special teams. Hey, he was returning punts, catching ball. Whatever you need, whatever you needed for us to do, he did it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And when he got his opportunity, See, I believe. I believe the number one killer of dreams is expectations. See, how many times don't show? You see, guys, we talk about this on show all the time. You see guys in practice, well, ain't nothing expected of them. Oh, catching the ball like this here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You hear me? Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Doing everything. That same guy that made catches like. Like, damn. Getting the game ball, hitting them all in the back of his head. He can't get off press. Now, he done cooked every DB we got. Hey, the db, he done deed up all our best receivers right there. Back the ball down the game and don't know.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, boy, practice in the game are two entirely different things.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Different.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm telling you, they're not.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Expectations are different between practice at the game, right? You see in practice, bro. Oo, this what I'm doing.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Johnson, this you right here?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got the 15 yard comeback?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. ISO you the tight end. You got the over route, okay?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, back five, clear this thing out because we going one, two. We gonna hit the back on the ring, all right? Ready? Break. Now, that's what they do in. In practice.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Game time. All right, we going red, right? No, we're going far. Double wing right, F, short, X, dig. Let's go. Z, Z, shake. Y choice. Ready? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got 60,000 down my.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Hey, everybody clap with him. You see the wheel spinning now?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody holding up the car to tell you where you're going because they don't call no plays. We just hold the sheet up. Yeah, that's you right there. You got to come back. You got the post.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got to speed out. You got to dig. You got the over. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, y' all know. Y' all know in practice, it ain't no damn crowd. It's just us. Hey, so. So you ain't got no reason to be nervous when you get your ass out there. It's 50, 60, 000 people up there. Oh, yeah. It's a big difference.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You drop, Boo. You dropped the ball. Boo. I just tell you how it is, man. I seen it. I've seen. God, I mean, Ocho, you Have seen it. Be balling their ass off at practice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They get in the game and then guess what, man I ran with, bro, you hot. I know you ran around. You wasn't supposed to run the route. You supposed to run the hot route. So what one came off your side? Did you not see. Ella, hold up. Did you not see that safety cheat down that told you the damn slot was coming? Why do you think the safety cheated down? Because he was coming.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, look,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

so now what happened? What happened? He run the damn hot. That's what happened.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, you got a quarter.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got the quarterback damn near decapitated. That's what happened.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, the most them hots get you, Joe, but you got to be paying attention.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

When that. When that quarterback point, that quarterback pointed at Mike. Yeah, and if anything come outside of that mic, that means you hot. They got an extra man coming. Boy, you bet. You'll be able to see it. You leave your quarterback hanging, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And you gotta know, okay, we got an empty formation. All it takes is 1.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

1.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

If we got a back in the backfield, it takes two, because guess what? We got five linemen and. And we got a back that can block six. If they bring seven, you got to run hot dum dum.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Got to,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

meaning they're bringing more than we can block. So somebody got a loop. So what, you want the quarterback to block it with his chest?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He. He didn't see that in practice. Y' all ain't show him that one in practice?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, cuz guess what? We holding that f. Ain't no hots on there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right? That's all I'm saying.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But see, that's the thing. And the thing is, quarterbacks get. And when quarterbacks get excited, they're gonna start talking fast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So you really know what you got? Because my thing is, you know what you got what I got sharp. You got to come back. Hey, if it's cover two, release outside and clear. Bro, what are you doing? Why would you release outside? Didn't I tell you if it's covered, to release outside and clear? Why the hell you go inside? The last thing we want to do, we got something coming that way. We don't want the damn cornerback looking inside to decleat the tight end, which is me. I'm gonna slap the hell out you when he comes to the sideline, and then the other, the y rece on the damn over. Damn it. We want you to make the cornerback turn his eyes to the damn plate. If you release inside, guess what? He's Doing? All he's doing is shoving you down inside. And he's still looking inside.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. That's the same thing in basketball. Hey, coaches draw up two, three plays in the huddle, right? Boom, he dropped two. Three plays. We're gonna run the first play, though, Uncle Ocho. But just so happened this first play worked. Now we gonna run until they stop it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So let's say the first play worked three times, okay? Boom, they stopping. So next time we run in the second play. You remember the second play? Damn, I don't remember the second play.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What's that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's the second play? They know you try to coach somebody through a whole play. I know exactly what you said.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's how, Joe. That's how it is. When we go, no huddle. We got two plays. First one on one, second one on set. Hut. We gonna line up in the same because we don't want to flip sides, waste too much time. If we start in the right formation, we're gonna stay in the right formation.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We start in the left formation, we're going to stay in the left formation. Only thing change. Hey, we got two plays. First one on, one second on set. Okay? Boom. Go dum dum, go round. Dumb, dumb. We told you both plays are in a right formation. You wasted too much time. You see guys running back and forth? No, they normally. Most teams, they will always whatever formation. They start in a right formation, they'll stay in the right formation. It takes too much time to be flip flopping. Yeah, because the last thing I want is the OO to run a damn go route on the right side. And then all of a sudden we flip it and he got a damn left formation. Now he got to go all the way across there instead of running his ass back to. Look, man, I. I gotta get. Bro, we not gna get that back. You talk about, hey, my bad, hot. That means you, you don't run your normal route. Get your head around, you know, me and John's like, hey, the guy coming down. Look, first of all, if the guy's coming down, Ocho, why you running full speed into him? No, just take your time, bubble a little bit so you can get a quarterback of throws. Yeah, if you running full speed at him, he running full speed at you. Guess what's gonna happen? A headache.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Bad headache.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But see, you learned that. Hey, that chick you was talking to on the phone, she know he plays you about to be with her. And guess what? That chick that you talking to that you think she really like you. When you get cut, guess what? Another dude gonna strike. Gonna crack her.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She ain't gonna even look at. She won't give up. She won't give two Fs about. You understand how this game work, bro? Hello? Love what you do, not who you are. The sooner you realize that, the better off you're gonna be. Get your ass with that playbook.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Better learn to play it before they play you, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Facts.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But. But they stay on them phones, though, Ocho. Oh, don't worry about it. Hey, man, who you talking to, Click? You ain't say your mom, you ain't say your mama. You ain't say hey. You ain't say nothing about that. Nope. Oh, yeah, but you go out there and then you mess up a play. Because in walkthrough Joe, we go over the play. So all the plays that we're going to be putting in for today's practice, we go out there and hit the thing. Boom, we go through. Walk through.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So Mike expects you. They expect you to know the play that you just went over 30 minutes ago. All them plays. Mike expect you to know him. Now you don't. He. Mike is looking at us crazy. He looking at the veteran like 84. What's going on? Why? Damn, Mike. I mean, I'm struggling myself to learn these more folks I can understand, you know? Hey, I can't. I can't dime a man out with Mike. Every time we get a break, they run to the phone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They run to the locker. Yeah, bro. Ocho Joe, if you call. If you get a call, where do they think you are? If you want an NFL team, you on an NBA team. I just want to know between the. If let's just stick with football. Between the hours of nine and four. Well, special teams got to get there eight. So between hours of eight and four, 30, where do they think you are on a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we got till noon. So between Wednesday and Thursday, I want you to tell me, where do they think you are?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Practice,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

work. Why is she calling you? You like I'm at practice. That was. Excuse me. I never understood that back then. There were no Uber drivers. You weren't driving a cab. The clubs weren't open, so you weren't security. Where the hell do they think you were? I. I just didn't get them guys and guys and, you know, coaches up, said, son, don't, Don't. Don't cut yourself. Let me do it right. I've seen more guys cut themselves in my 14 years because of that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I've seen it too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They run straight to the phone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Halftime.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. I see you sleep. Don't worry about it. You sleep. I ain't got nothing for you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. You're talking about in film, in the meeting.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Guys be out of there.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Knock. Knocked out. They've been out the night before. Hey, Joe. They've been out the night before. Out late.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, bro, if I. Hey, if I gotta stay my way ass and meet wake a meeting now. When I got to Baltimore, Wade Harmon with my position coach, he let me play going up out here. You go ahead and go, I'm gone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Bp I let B. Man, look here, man. I ain't gonna tell. I said, look, I'm going to sleep. I'm gonna tell you beforehand, so don't call me and ask me nothing. I'm going to sleep. I'm watching what you took, what you showed. I will watch that. But. But I knew. I knew my. I had done. I know it. But them young guys is not paying attention. And bull driving instead of like being in your playbook during lunch.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They want to shoot pool. Yeah. Play ping pong.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Be on the poppy shot. Be on the phone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But looking lost. When this time when?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We're trying to dry run through these damn plays.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But guess. Guess what, Joe. Every once in a while, some of them will still be there. Then I got released. Hey, Sean, what's up? You know. Hey, I love coming. Hey, come on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

With me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I feel bad for it. That really could have been you. You could have had a name.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And when. Hey, hey, hey. Y' all know this though. When you turn pro, bro, like, your whole mentality has to change it better. Like. But everybody don't though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It doesn't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Everybody doesn't. Hey, listen, it's a lot of cats who. Whom I seen come and go in the pros. And I'm talking about the NBA. I'm talking about what else? Only two, three years and boom, it's a wrap. To be able to have longevity, bro, you gotta get lost in this thing. You hear me? I'm talking about you have to really love what you're doing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not what. Not what the game brings to you, but you have to really love getting your ass up in the morning, putting in that work. Putting in that work in the off season to where you can continue to get better yearly. You know what I mean? It's not a lot of cats like that, bro. They happy and satisfied just to get there. Cool. I'm cool. I made it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They love. They love what the game allows them to have. I get to go to the club, I get to shine. I get a nice car. That is. The grind is. Is boring being a pro because you do the same thing over and over. Yeah, you get. You watch tape, Ocho. You watch. Hey, Mike, the head coach gonna get up there and tell you what the thing is for the day. You're gonna break up offense, you're gonna install, then you're gonna break up in a unit. Tight ends go one room, running back, go to another room, wide receiver, O line. Boom, boom, boom. Guess what? Then we're on the field for walk through.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For lunch. Then we out there practicing. Then we come back and we're going to break down. We're going to watch tape. That's it. Every day. Every day. Every single day. You got to fall in love with the process. And people don't. They fall in love with the game provides for.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. They lose sight of why. Why they are where they are. Meaning, like, okay, boom. Hey, bro, you here to play basketball. I know you want to hit the spot tonight. I know you want to go hang out with shorty them, but don't ever lose sight of why you're here. Yeah, you can never lose sight of that, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Take. Okay, you want to go out, go out once a month. But how you gonna. Dawg, how you gonna go out two,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

three times a week when it's popping, it's popping, uncle. You go to a city, you go to a city that's jumping you. Miami, Atlanta, New York.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, you ain't. First of all, that ain't happening in football. Your ass gonna get there in an hour after you arrive. Ocho, you better tell them you're gonna be in special teams meeting. Oh, yeah, Then you gonna have a team meeting. Hey, hey. Do you got individual? Because we had tests. We had a test. So our test, the tight ends, we had a test every plate. You had to write down what you had on that plate, what you had. The hot. And also a counter. So what was going to be if. If we audible out of that plate. So we had to write down. So we got a test, and all he got is a plate. Now we got to tell him what we had and what was the audible if we checked out of it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I remember them days, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I just. Guys didn't take it serious, man. I. I took it serious. That's why I get upset and be like, man, you know, I couldn't because the guys had the Same amount of time as I had. And I understood, bro. I worked my way up. I was a seventh round draft pick.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Started out on special teams, just being scout team guys, and then work my way up, bro. It can be done. I'm not saying everybody. Even though you might work your way up, but everybody might not be a Pro bowl player, but you can play. You could have played a lot longer than what you did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You cut yourself.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to our super chats, we have three video voicemail. Let's take a listen. ISO, do me a favor. Hold this l while I go celebrate. Boy. The Joker's off the chain tonight in San Antonio.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, I already know. I already know. Hey, congrats, bro. Do your thing. Do your 1, 2. Enjoy it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Enjoy it. Well deserved, bro. Man, well deserved. Y' all played y' all ass off tonight. Y' all don't deserve to win. Y' all earned that win.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Every run, y' all had a big lead, they came and took it. And every time they tried to pull away. Champagne or somebody made a three, they make a three if somebody was staying attached.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all never lost sight of those tail lights.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell of a game. Hell of a game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Let's take a look. Take a listen to our second one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, mine.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Say mine. Live from Memphis, Tennessee. You hear me? So, Ocho Ice ISO. I guess they forgot to tell check that we got a game to play. We here playing a game. Show up. It'll be nice for you to show up. But I already knew he wouldn't go be good. He wasn't good in college when they played. When Gonzaga played against Memphis, he slowed down that game. But I' ma say this, don't be surprised. OKC get that big center from Michigan, that 73 center from Michigan. They do got a lottery. They do got a lottery pick. Don't be surprised if they snag him for Wimpy. Well, there ain't no answer for Wimby, so you just got the A. Just play. Pray Wimby miss, man. That's what you're hoping for. Hey, did you see.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Did you see?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Did you see the back dough? He did, though, when he dunked on Chick.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes. Oh, he passed. He passed it. The fox, maybe, right back to him.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Nice little give and go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He dug on him so quick, though. Nice little give and go for me, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

For me, it's just Like, I wish Chick would have. If Chick would have went 1 for 12, I would have been cool with that. But 1 for 2, damn. He didn't even give himself a chance. He didn't. He didn't. Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I. I ain't been to hold you. He didn't. But we. We talked, Joe. We talked about this. Is that you watch it from game one all the way on. When Wimby was on chat, Chet was not even looking at no damn bro at all.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because, hey. Because Wendy was putting it right back in his face when he was shooting. Hell, he. He like, man, I can't shoot over this big dude. Like, he gonna. He gonna block it every time because he been. He was blocking his jump shots. He was stopped looking at the rim.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And the thing is, is that you look at Wimby and he's a taller, but he's more athletic. He's more nimble than Chad.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Chet. Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Chet. Chet look very robotic. I'm not saying that he's not skilled, but it's almost like he's thinking about his moves as he's doing them. What Wemby is just free it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Fluid. Super fluid.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, very fluid.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree. Very fluid. You can tell in his moves and defensively how he moves. He's a big flu to be 75 that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, he.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He moves with a lot of fluidity.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's not. He's not. He's not clumsy. He's not like trip stumbling over himself.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, look, look, hold on. Y' all gotta look at his size up when he out there handling the rock. It. It almost looked fake because he is the biggest person on the court. Ain't like, hold on. How in the hell that man out here just tween, tween size. This man up side stepping, bro. That's at his height.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And the way.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The way he does it is remarkable.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

This was a very disappointing series for Chet. Yeah, Shay didn't have his bet. Didn't shoot the best he had. I mean, look, he got. Caruso came along with him for a lot of those rides. Yep, McCain played extremely well. Yeah, they fought. Look, they would. They were determined if ch. If Shay. Shay, if he's going to shoot that 53% on these tough ass jump shots that we're making him take, we've got to live with that. But what they did is that they locked in on those other guys. This was the game that Chet was supposed to say, you know what? You took us. Hey, the first three quarters, especially quarters two and three, Shay, I'm f. To bring it home.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

If he ain't show up any other night, he definitely wasn't showing up when it mattered most. And that was a night.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But this is what we got. Oh, this is why you have a one, two punch.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I think. I think if you okc, though, you don't overreact because you hope, hopefully J Dub can stay healthy next season, because if you have him, maybe you can offset some of that Castle and Harper and Fox, you know what I mean? Cause you gotta understand, J Dub did win him a game. I think.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That was game five or six in Indiana where J Dub went out for, like, 40.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Like, I. I think he. I think, you know, we. We missing sight of that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So with.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

With them not having him, I mean, it was a huge difference.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It was. But that's disappointing, man. The reason why you have a big three, if one of those guys are out, the other two can carry the load. This is a game that you need to check to carry his weight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You did. You did.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it. Every. That's why everybody can't lead the league. Everybody can't be the lead dog in Iditarod.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Let's take a listen to the last one. Oh, what's. Good night, cat family. Yo, I remember last series, Ocho didn't even have the spurs to win that series. Now all of a sudden, he want to switch up just because UNC and Joe are going for the okay semester, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, we. We out here watching it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I told y' all we was going

[ISO Joe Johnson]

to be in the Western Conference finals.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now we're going to be in the finals.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, call his ass out then.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

He loud. He loud or wrong? What are you talking.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, you didn't. You had ant man to beat the Spurs.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

No, I didn't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes, you did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, me. Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. No, not you, Chad. I'mma call you with all your Ladies used to call you call you Chad.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I know who I had to win. He don't know what he's talking about.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, you had. You had to win this series.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

No,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

come on, man. We thought you were gonna keep it 100.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I am 100. I mean, listen, just Cause y'. All. Listen, y'.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Y' all don't hate. Cause y' all wrong.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I had. I. First of all, I had the spurs to get past Minnesota. You did not. Hey, what?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I had the Spurs Going to the finals. I had the Knicks going to the finals. That's exactly who's gonna be there. That's all that matter.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sally. Grad check. Okay. Okay. So you can go home and fret. If you listen to Ocho, you'll likely won your bet. Spurs and seven. Side note. Oh, make sure you give Cornett his flowers for that block. I did. I tweeted play the game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It was win this game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Play the game. That was the turning point moment. That crowd was getting ready to erupt.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And if I'm not mistaken, that was their second. That was their second turnover too. O Joe and oo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Cornette hustled his ass off and said, you know what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell of a block.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And he knew it. Hey, you see when he got to the sideline how they was hyping you? How they piping him up? Yeah, yeah, look.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause look, all he been hearing is about the non wimby minutes, how, how OKC has been taking advantage of the non wimby minutes, meaning when his ass is in there. So yeah, that was, that was a, a huge confidence booster for him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. That was an unbelievable play. There was a lot of great plays in that game. They're gonna talk about that play for a long, long time, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes. Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Spurs to the finals. Ocho called it, baby. Let's go. Go spurs, go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Funny, I've never heard of a winning team. Say according to analytics, we're actually losing. Well, Ocho blame analytics with ISO and still takes about best podcast trio in the game.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know what it was, Joe? What analytics were are for guys that couldn't play the game, couldn't coach the game. So I have to find a way to get into the game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So they play these, do these numbers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So. And a lot of, a lot of them got jobs. And that seems to be the thing. You go for it on fourth down. Do we fake it here? Do we do this there? What? You know, it used to be coaches going gut feeling and, and, and analytics don't take into account momentum. Don't take in the crowd, home or away. Don't take into account nothing. It's a bunch of numbers that you poked in and it spit it out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Fact.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Whether basketball or soccer. Ethical ball won this weekend. Yeah. PSG beat. What? Who's that? Real Madrid. Arsenal. Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. PNG beat Arsenal today in penalty kicks. It was, it was a. It was a beautiful game. Beautiful game. Beautiful game. PNG won back to back champions leagues. I mean Arsenal played A really good game. Very important.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Isn't that Stan Cronky's team?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Arsenal.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. That Stan's team. Yeah. Yeah, it was a good game. Really good game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Put some respect on Ocho's name. Come correct when you mentioned number 85. Man, that joker got lucky. Triple X Cup Saturday. Said Arsenal lost. OKC lost a Siri play Ice Cube. Today was a good day. Ojo was right. Chad's going to have to take a look in the mirror.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Four points

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Series. Rough series for him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It was. OO called it yet again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, here we go.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, listen, I'm not bragging, Joe. I'm not bragging.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, I'm. Let the people. Let the people decide.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, you've been. You've been gloating and bragging since we got on.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Let the. Let the people remind you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Cornette blocked that shot the same way he blocked Magic City night in Atlanta.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hello. Hell. Damn. Lord have Mercy. Damn. Coordinate 85.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You were right, my boy. Bring out that strap on his party night. What?

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah. Yeah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm on the road. I ain't got it. We ain't got it with me tonight. We ain't got it tonight. I'm on the road right now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

We're gonna celebrate when I get home, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ocho. Damas, don't mess with big Texas talk. Your ish, Ocho. And to all Thunder fans, flopping ain't always going to work. Let's go. Like I said, when you saw those guys tonight, I was like, okay, okay. Look at them say, hey, they gonna let him play tonight. They did let them play tonight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They did.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What's up, Nightcap? ISO. What's more important, a point guard to get the ball or a score? Who can get to his spot, Shoot

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

a score, who get to a spot? Now this. This is the 80s of the 90s or the early 2000s.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I say a point guard, but it depends. What type of office are you running?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it depends. I mean, you look at Houston here, they. Hey, they. They gotta. They got a score, who can get to his damn spot. But they needed a damn point guard, too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, the triangle offense really doesn't require a prototypical point guard. Yeah, yeah, but you got two of the greatest score one on one scores in the history of the game. Yeah, but most teams didn't have that. Doesn't have that, right? Breaking news. There's no more King ISO. Only King Oo. Y' all so quick to laugh at his takes and predictions. Both of y' all owe him an apology. Not just for this series, but the whole NBA playoffs.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey. Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man. Damn his damn apology to his.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He won't get it.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You won't get it from me.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, don't worry about. The people know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Long as the people know you ain't get no apology. I don't care what they know.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You ain't got. You ain't got to apologize.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I do and won't.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hello?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay. See? Might need to see J Dub to the Lakers to get the most dominant man in the. In the NBA. Oh, abomination. To help stop Wimy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, man.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

That's funny.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Fellas, rate these playoff performers worst to best playoff performance this season. Chat Ayton, during this right here. Chat was the worst performance of anybody.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Eight. Eight and second. Enduring third. At least during that. They're trying, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, With a four point performance, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's tough, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Four points.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because you count. You counted on him. You needed him. You was at home. You needed him. Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

These boys was playing like the game point at the rec center. Y' all better call your own file. I love this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I did.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I love this. I love. Let them play. Let them play. Do you understand? Had they let the OKC Thunder shoot 35, 40 free throws, Joe, what would have been said, man? The players on the court determine the game tonight. Yep. Not a rest whistle.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's. As a fan, that's what you want to see.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Breaking news. The first postseason trade ever. The Thunder have traded Chet Hungry to the Bucks for Giannis.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Boy, they go, hey, Chet. You go hear it, bro. I. I hope you got thin skin. Now. Sound. It takes a while to sound. To get up there to those ears. Cause you real tall. But, boy, you better have some. You better have some earbuds on some. Some earbuds in, boy. They go. Hey, I just want you to know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go here until next season. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They gonna light your ass up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. Till you back in that situation again. Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, they won't be back in tonight. They definitely gonna be back in. He gonna have a chance to redeem himself again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All these other NBA fan bases just wanted to see. Okay. Lose. Not get to see Wimby and hate him for the next 10, 15 years. Side note. Check the F out of here. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. I don't think they gonna hate on Wimby, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I think he hard to hate on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He is, bro. Because he cares. He. It seems as though he cares Too much for the game. And that's a good thing,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

guys. Lou Dort has to be the worst starter on the championship team that I've ever seen. No way. He's back next season. Love the show. Nah, he wasn't coming back. Not when you got Wallace, you got Mitchell, and you got Caruso.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He a free agent?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I think they got a club option for 18 million.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They got to figure it out. I think. I think. I think because they do have three first round picks, they got to figure out what they gonna do with their roster. For real. They gotta.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, they gotta. They gotta get. They gotta get rid. Gotta trade somebody. They got to get them up. Gotta get up off there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So, Stefan Frank Castle and Victor Black Mamayama. Tell OJP Ocho P. S Freight Castle is the Punisher. Fellas.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all remember Fred Castle, The Punisher?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know who that is.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's the Punisher. The series. I never.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I never watched the Punisher.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh, Joe? You ain't never watched the Punisher? You. I know. You know. I know you done seen it, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I probably. I done heard of it. I done heard of it, but. But, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Castle. One of my favorite guards to watch now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Castle. Don't take no mess. Hey, but you see how d. Dylan Harper had to tackle it, bro. He about to stop. Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause he about to mess up the Church's money. You hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, man. What Chat should have won Western Conference mvp. He helped the spurs out tremendously. My Charles Barkley boys. I guarantee he gets traded this offseason for Giannis and. And Dort he gone, too?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, I would.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't know, man. Y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all just can't think. Just. Cuz you put two great players together. Chad and Giannis don't fit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't. You mean Giannis and sh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Chad and. I mean. I mean Giannis and Shay. Hey, they.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

O Dama strikes again. Spurs in six. Let's go, baby. Ethical Hoops is back now. He taking. He taking the Knicks. He said he got y' all this part. It's over with now. Yep. Ocho, why do analytics guys want so many threes now? Seems like every other shot is a three. Good call on the Spurs, Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

I would. I wouldn't say analytics have anything to do with threes. I mean. I mean, just that the game has evolved to that point. I mean, it all started with Steph, too, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, but they say. Analytics. They say if. If you make Seven three you got. If I make. Think about it, Ocho. If I make seven threes, in order for you to beat me, you got to make 10 twos.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So I make 15, I make 15. I make 15 threes. You got to make 22 twos. So you taking a 21 foot two, bro. Go take that foot back and go to make a 22. Make a get to get us that extra point.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. Unless you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's how you looking at it now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Unless you're a bonafide pure score and you shooting 53% from the field like Shay was this year. They rather a three over two any day.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Absolutely. Nixon. Nixon.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Four.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay, see, we need to trade Dort hungry and two picks for Giannis.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Jesus.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

If Ocho tell y', all, grass will turn to cheese. Start hustling crackers.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I'm with you. When you're right now they gonna start listening to me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What a win by the Spurs. Your chat. He gotta go. He got some bitch this side Series package door chat some pics for Giannis Ocho. ISO. It's my son Kobe's birthday today. He turns 10. He's watching. Can he get a happy birthday, Kobe Lee. Shout out, please. Appreciate y' all. Absolutely appreciate you watching Kobe Lee. Happy 10th birthday. Every birthday double digits now. Happy birthday. Happy 10th. Happy 10th. And hopefully your team won today.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Happy 10th.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Baseball one tonight. Basket. Excuse me. Basketball won tonight. Go spurs, go. We don't mess with unethical hoops. Love the show, guys. As a 20 year spurs fan, I'm glad to see them win by Shay Floppadopoulos. Ghostburs. Go. Hello, guys. I hit everyone except. I hit everyone except Holmgren. He's a disgrace to number seven. He's making all that money running around with his head down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. It's a learning, learning experience for him, man. Learning easy. Hey, I know they won it last year, but they had a lot of injuries that were unfortunate and it thrust him into a role obviously he wasn't ready for.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all have to realize OKC missing their second and third best score. They missed him against the Lakers,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Good team. Let me give them credit. Give them credit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Spurs just played better. Just played better. It don't matter. Wembanyama Barack Obama. Yokohama. Bring the drama. Mix them six.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, grab your Twix.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Chet has to go. Unacceptable.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Trade Chet. J Dub. Two bench press players, five first rounders for Giannis. Damn everything. SGA needs a co star. Chet gotta go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It ain't that easy, fellas.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nope. Wimby the Monk, Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee. It's time to learn some Chinese Kung fu. Spurs and 5 refs didn't reward flops ISO unk basketball IQ is chopped. Ocho state consistent his seat got hot. Whimmy got women to go. But Cornette saved the game with that block. Spurs in five. The next round OKC need to send Chat and multiple first round picks to Milwaukee for Giannis. Seem that be the recurring theme, Joe. Everybody want Giannis to go to okc. Do you think the spurs would be in the finals right now if CP3 stayed another year? Look, I don't know what it was, but these guys matured extremely fast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean Castle. I mean think about it. Wim was rookie of the Year. Castle was rookie of the Year. Dylan Harper played unbelievable. I think he what? He finished what, Third in the MVP

[ISO Joe Johnson]

voting behind yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Everything happened. It was right where they supposed to be. Yeah, Chat is Wimby's son met pet. No sweat. Parlay bet. And the award for biggest disappearing act by max contract player goes to Chet. Spurs to the finals. And Sam Prestige gonna package either Chad or J Dub. And some picks for Giannis after this performance by Chat and consistent injury by J Dub. Despite having a fifth file. Chill. Chet didn't want to smoke with Wimy. That boy walking 200 million dollar disgrace. Ocho, you don't know ball. All you done is go out the opposite of everyone and got lucky. That's not knowing ball. That's called luck.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Another, another. Another one in denial. Another one in denial.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Charles Barkley. Tell Charles Barkley that that big backs are getting laid in San Antonio tonight. I've been saying chance trash for a while. People thought I was tripping. Nah, Chat. Ben. Chet. Ben Simmons.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nightcap, fam. I'm mad at work tonight. Thunderwell. Chet sold me tonight. My friends had a bet. Shay dropped damn near 40 his check gets paid 240 million to be a pathetic pack him up. In a couple of years, Harper and Wimby will be something like Kobe and Shaq. What they do? They got hell. Lee got hell on the hands if they that man what Knicks win the finals? ISO gotta pay Ocho his money and the crown is officially bestowed on Ocho and Ocho only.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah. Hell no. Hell no.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, the people have spoken.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, I give you hey you Only way you could get the crown is if you if you can score a bucket on me.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Joe, the people. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna whoop Your ass and back. I mean, I ain't even think about that, man. That's easy work. That's easy work. But anyway, the people have spoken, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ain't nobody spoke.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, no, the people have spoken, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, King Ocho. Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And still.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Are.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You right and still wrong. That's you and still wrong. That's your new phrase.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sga. Got to take those aps back from those boys. Is disgusting. Wimby had that man check shook.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Wimby took this personal, fellas. He took it personal.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, man, that's a good. That's. That's a good. That's a good thing to do, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Take it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take the aps back.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, take. Take it back from. You don't need to tell time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on, now.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You don't need to tell Chad.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Say, y', all, I'm gonna give you another one, cuz. Your time up here. Shannon, how do you see yourself as an introvert when you were the locker room leader, God rest his soul. And Goose, me and him both know you ain't no damn introvert. Did you ever end up getting your restitution? No, I'm an introvert. If, like, I'm in a locker room, it's like. Well, when you're in a structured setting, Ocho.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're different. I'm different in a locker room than I am when I'm out in public. I don't really, really be out in public. Go to the gym. I don't really be talking to anybody. I get on the plane, I'm in the airport, I'm sitting down, going about my business. I'm. I'm out of there. Somebody sitting next to me, they asked me a question. Hey. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that support.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Tell Ocho we love to show tail light. So that's it. Structured, controlled environment. Yeah. I feel I can be myself. Because here's the thing, Ocho. The thing is, is that I had. Somebody told me today that somebody said, man, they said, man, they saw you, and they told me you was gonna come visit them. Say I know him. That that's a lie. I say, see, that's why I don't really talk to people. Because if you don't. If. If people allow on you when you don't talk to them, what would they say? If you talk to them?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

2, 3, 4 minutes, hello, they'll make one up.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And that's why you have to be mindful of that, because if you notice, you know, because the Thing is, what I noticed Ocho and Joe about and just, you know, spend a lot of time, you know, hate is lonely.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

A person won't hate you by themselves. What would they do, Joe? Ocho. They won't try to get other people to hate you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes. Misery loves company. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So I can't.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

You just.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So that's what they do. I ain't got time for that. Yeah. Because if they don't know, if they can't tell something on you, they'll make up something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Every time.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

People ain't really seen me out nowhere to anything, and they just, oh, I know him. I know him. Everybody, every. Every woman that comes on club shake. Oh, yeah, talk to. Oh, Lord have mercy. I said, Lord. That's why I just spend so much time by myself. It's just easier that way, Joe Ocho. It's just easier. I already know it can keep confusion down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Hello. Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y'. All. Y' all be saying all that stuff. I'm like, okay, sure. That's exactly what's happening. That's exactly what happened, as y' all tell it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know what it is, man. You know. You know what they say. Conversation rules nation, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, you holding them big boy conversations, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, they gonna speculate.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, they make it up. Yeah, I let them. I usually try to make. Because here's the thing. If you. Where. If it wasn't true, you wouldn't say anything. Okay. You don't say anything. It must be true, right? If it wasn't true, you. You come up. So how do I win?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You can't. I say if I say Hit dog holler. And if I don't say anything, it must be true. So how do I win?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You can't win.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I give up. Hey, how to turn it to my A. From now, if not for, like, for the longest, for moving forward. Like, when people say something, I'm checked. I'm turning the chat performance, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm giving that kind of performance.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on. Come on, now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I would give a chat performance.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay? I don't care what they say. Leave what you want.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They gonna believe what they want anyway.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

No, you know, April, you know, I don't care.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, yeah, we know. We. Joe and I gathered that a bunch.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, matter of fact, hey, I got one for y', all, man. I forgot. I forgot to tell y' all what the joke. Hey, what. What? What the football player said to the flight attendant.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What the Football player say to the flight attendant, You want to catch a pass? No.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

What you got, Joe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. Joe.

[Unk (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey man. The football player said to the flight attendant, put me in, coach.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you need help. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you as the San Antonio spurs do what many didn't think they could do. They go on the road in a game seven and beat the defending champs with the two time MVP on their roster. And. And they take them down. Tremendous, tremendous, tremendous victory. Victor Wembanyama was the Magic Johnson Western conference player, most valuable player. But he got great contribution from Champagne. He got Versaille, he got. Darren Fox had his best game. Stefan Castle was a dog all game long. He's been a dog all series long. And then Keldon Johnson was sensational. Dylan Harper was great off the bench. And even Carter Bryant, he only played three minutes but he was great. And the play of the night belonged to a guy that we. I've been critical of Cornette. He had the block of the night on Hartenstein. That flipped them over. That, that kept cuz that place was about to rub. They was about to be down by two and then they come down to here to three and they didn't look back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Congratulations San Antonio Spurs. And we. I think we're going to have a great series. I'm hoping for a great series. And the Knicks. And the Spurs. You got New York Knicks who hadn't been to the NBA Finals since 1999. And if I'm not mistaken, they haven't won it since 1970. What? 3, 72, 73. And here we go. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. There's my partner and co host. He got it right. He picked the San Antonio spurs. The OKC Thunder, the Rock runner extraordinaire, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler at an all pro. That is Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson. And we missed Nigel. But we'll get it next time. Y' all know the silky smooth shooting guard from the Atlanta Hawks. A seven time NBA all star and he was a big three mvp, led the league and scoring in his first year. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your eyes, for your ears and Your word of mouth. All of this is possible thanks to you. Hopefully you'll join us for the NBA Finals because we'll be coming in, coming after every single game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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