Nightcap Hour 1: Thunder TAKE GAME 2 From Spurs + Kenny Atkinson DEFENDS James Harden

Summary

Nightcap: Hour 1 — Thunder TAKE GAME 2 from Spurs + Kenny Atkinson DEFENDS James Harden

Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle Ocho"), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, with guest analyst ("Joe", ISO Joe Johnson)
Date: May 21, 2026

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This episode of Nightcap delivers an instant, in-depth reaction to a pivotal Western Conference Finals Game 2 in the NBA Playoffs, where the Oklahoma City Thunder evened the series against the San Antonio Spurs. The Nightcap crew (Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and Joe Johnson) break down key moments, dissect the game's turning points, and examine the impact of injuries and performances. The episode closes with a spirited debate about James Harden's defense and team accountability, springing from comments made by coach Kenny Atkinson.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thunder-Spurs Game 2 Breakdown (05:01–41:46)

Turnover Troubles: Stefan Castle’s Record-Setting Night

• Stefan Castle (San Antonio) set a dubious NBA playoff record: 20 turnovers over two games.
• Comparisons are drawn to James Harden, Cade Cunningham, and LeBron, but Castle tops them all for back-to-back games (05:45).
• Joe: "He's averaging 10 turnovers a game, you know, in the past couple games...but the man ain't but 21 years old, bro. His second year in this NBA league, he's playing in the postseason in the Western Conference finals." (07:43)

Despite Mistakes, the Spurs Stay Close

• Even with the turnover issue, the game remained tight due to aggressive play and big contributions.
• Guest Analyst: "[Castle] is so aggressive on both ends of the goddamn court it's kind of overlooked...But...if he handles [the ball] a little bit more careful...the result is a little different." (09:58)
• Ocho: "If I just say, for the sake of argument, I say, okay, 13 instead of 21 [turnovers]. You got 13 turnovers, Joe. They win this game." (12:33)

Intensity, Resilience, and "Boxing Match" Comparison

• The physical, relentless nature of the game is compared to classic boxing wars (11:36).
• Ocho: "You gotta play every possession as if it's your last, because you never know." (12:02)
• Joe praises both teams’ ability to withstand runs and keep battling.

Bench Contributions and the ‘Two vs. One’ Bigs Battle

• OKC’s depth is spotlighted: Caruso, McCain, Mitchell, and Wallace all scored double digits off the bench (10:35, 29:37, 34:33).
• On the Spurs, questions surround key rookie injuries (Harper, J Dub, A Jay Mitchell), and if De’Aaron Fox’s return can steady things.
• The hosts frame the big man matchup as “two vs. one”: OKC’s Chet + Hartenstein vs. Spurs’ Wembanyama (36:01).
• Ocho: "You got to combine chat numbers and Hardenstein numbers. Points, rebounds, and assists and blocks. That's wimby." (36:01)

Wembanyama’s Generational Impact

• Joe: "We watching a transcending player. Somebody who's going to change the trajectory of the game, bro." (13:22)
• The crew marvels at Wimby’s mix of rim protection, touch, and fast decision-making.
• Discussion of how OKC used Hartenstein to physically disrupt Wimby, and how that physicality could face scrutiny from officials in coming games (15:55, 18:16).

Injury Fallout and Tough Decisions

• Harper’s injury, J Dub’s hamstring, and A Jay’s quad injuries loom large for the Spurs; OKC watches for Fox’s possible return (08:30, 33:12).
• Joe: "That hamstring, bro...The playoffs is revved up so high, you cannot sustain that with them soft tissue injuries, bro." (30:54)

Clutch Plays and "Winning Time"

• Ocho: “It took a Herculean effort from Wimby to, to overcome the 10 turnovers.” (12:53)
• The impact of role-players making game-changing plays in big moments, particularly Caruso’s timely three-pointers (29:19).

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s ("Shay") Steady Greatness

• Praise for SGA’s efficiency, poise, and clutch mid-range shot-making (49:31–53:47).
• Ocho: "He doesn't have the flashiest game...But boy, if he ever gets to a spot that he considers his own and you let him elevate, Lord, please don't let this ball go in." (53:04)

Small Market Pride and Playoff Atmosphere

• Extended talk about how Oklahoma City and San Antonio fanbases make for electric, sellout playoff atmospheres (61:15).
• Ocho: "It may be two small markets, but they got some great fan bases, bro." (61:39)

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2. Kenny Atkinson Defends James Harden’s Defense (67:46–76:56)

Coach’s Public Support

• Cavs head coach Atkinson stands by Harden after criticism of his defensive showing against the Knicks and Jalen Brunson: "I'll just defend him. He's as good [an] isolation defender, always has been...but I'd argue it was a team defense too." (67:46)

Accountability: Player vs. Team

• Joe: "You know if your coach stand up for you, bright or wrong, and different. Hell, you know if that's your partner, you gonna take up for him...but...come on, man...I ain't trying to throw my main, one of my main guys under the bus. I gotta lift him up. I get that part." (68:22)
• Harden, when questioned, deflects to a team defense answer rather than owning his matchup struggles with Brunson: "He's a great one-on-one player...so we gotta do a better job of making sure he sees bodies...it's not a one man job." (69:19)

Honest Critique from the Nightcap Crew

• Guest Analyst: "In those specific moments where, damn, they're just ISO ball...I need you to get money right now. We need to stop and you are guarding Brunson. We need you to handle him right now. Don't let him beat you on the first dribble." (69:48)
• Joe: "As a player...you got to have some type of accountability, homie. Just take, take...look, yeah, hell yeah, he made some tough shots...but, bruh, just take a little accountability and say, man, I gotta be a little better." (70:50)
• Ocho (on Atkinson's excuse): "That's basically what Kenny Atkinson said. The defense got to do a better job. Well, damn. If I take one step and the guy already completed the pass. I don't know what you want me to do." (73:12)
• The group jokes about how, at a certain point, someone needs to offer more resistance, send a second defender, or just commit a hard foul if a guy is that hot (74:24).

Timeouts and Coaching Responsibility

• Hosts rip Atkinson for failing to stop a Knicks comeback: "He ain't call one, y'...We were just up 22." (76:56)
• Ocho: “He think he got 11 timeouts the next game? What he waiting for, the apocalypse, right?” (77:06)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Castle's turnovers:
  “Some of them are just. I’m like, bro, what are you doing?” — Uncle Ocho (09:45)
• On the fight and physicality:
  “The way these boys playing...it's just in basketball terms like the best boxing match you've ever seen in life.” — Guest Analyst (11:36)
• On Wembanyama’s uniqueness:
  “We watching a transcending player. Somebody who's going to change the trajectory of the game, bro.” — Joe (13:22)
• On SGA’s midrange mastery:
  “If he ever gets to a spot that he considers his own and you let him elevate...just let him hit the front of the rim, the back of the rim. Let him hit something. Let a bird fly in the arena and knock it off course.” — Uncle Ocho (53:04)
• On small market fans:
  “It may be two small markets, but they got some great fan bases, bro.” — Joe (61:39)
• On player accountability:
  “A man score 11, 12 straight on me. Damn. Now I’m raising my hand, man. My bad, bro...the next one gonna be a hard damn foul...” — Joe (70:50)
• On coaching and timeouts:
  “He ain't call one, y'...He think he got 11 timeouts the next game? What he waiting for, the apocalypse, right?” — Uncle Ocho (77:06)

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Important Timestamps for Segments

• Thunder-Spurs Game 2 Analysis: 05:01–41:46

  • Castle’s turnover record: 05:45–09:44
  • Physicality & bench impact: 10:35–19:44
  • "Boxing match" analogies: 11:36–12:28
  • Discussion on injuries & rotation: 30:54–35:15
  • Importance of two bigs vs. one: 36:01–36:46
  • Wemby’s future and game-changing abilities: 13:22, 37:04–39:50
  • SGA’s evolution: 49:31–54:45

• Kenny Atkinson/James Harden Accountability Debate: 67:46–78:06

  • Atkinson’s defense quote: 67:46–68:22
  • Harden’s team-defense deflection: 69:19–69:48
  • Hosts on accountability and defensive pride: 69:48–74:39
  • Timeout/coach criticism: 76:56–78:06

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Tone and Language

• Informal, energetic, locker-room banter
• Passionate, direct, sometimes irreverent—no holding back
• Deep basketball knowledge, player perspective throughout

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Summary

The Nightcap crew delivered a passionate, detailed breakdown of Thunder–Spurs Game 2, highlighting the drama of turnovers, the intensity of playoff basketball, and the critical impact of superstar and role-player performances. Injuries and tactical adjustments loom over the rest of the series, while the segment on Kenny Atkinson and James Harden kicks off a lively debate about player accountability and the boundaries of coaching loyalty. Fans of real, unfiltered hoops talk will find this episode packed with in-game analysis, personal stories, and hard basketball truths.

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

Yeah, I agree. Castle definitely has. I mean, he's averaging 10 turnovers a game, you know, in the past couple games. But Uncle Ocho, we gotta. We gotta take something into account here. The man ain't but 21 years old, bro. You know, his second year in this NBA league, he's playing in the post season in the Western Conference finals. Yeah, he has to. He has to tighten that up. But outside of them damn turnovers.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, man, they win the game, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, I'm saying they probably would if he don't turn over as much. But he playing some damn good ball. I like his aggressiveness that he has on offense and defense. Uncan Ocho. I mean, my God, he came through the lane off them two feet. What we talking about? Them two foot jumpers.

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll he. You let him get to the launch pad, it's over.

[Joe]

He put that boy in the rim. But all. All ain't bad for San Antonio. What's that? What, what is going to hurt him is can Harper come back? How. How significant is this injury that Harper has? Because he's a big part of what they do. I know he just a rookie, but hell, man, hey, them two guys at the 1 and 2 Dave gave OKC hell. You know, in these first couple games,

[Uncle Ocho]

I can offset that if I get de' Aaron Fox back. The question is J Dub and the J. Mitchell. Yeah, that is going to be the issue, Joe, because you saw, you saw a. You saw J Dub got ice on the back. That ain't a good sign.

[Joe]

I think he done.

[Uncle Ocho]

You saw, you saw a J. Mitchell go out of the ball game. Now they're already thin. So now you dig deeper into your bench. If you get Darren de' Aaron Fox back, you says, okay, I'm cool. I can weather the storm. I. I don't know. Without J Dub and Out Mitchell, if that I'm going to be able to wallet. And look, you got Caruso. And Caruso has played unbelievable. He's been out of his damn mind shooting a three point ball. And we know he can play defense, but Joe is that every time they get close. Castle, turn it over. Look at points off a turnover that he created.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

For support of the Thunder, he's got to do a better job of that. He's too good of a player. And some of them are just. I'm like, bro, what are you what are you doing? And go ahead, Ocho. I'll go ahead.

[Guest Analyst]

I was going to say those turnovers, especially in the first half, I mean, it was alarming at the rate he was turning the ball over. But I think at times it's overlooked as, as opposed to the way we mentioned James Harden and the fact that he turns the ball over so much, but he's giving you nothing on the offensive end. And with Castle being so aggressive on both ends of the goddamn court is kind of overlooked. But in hindsight, if you look, you take some of those turnovers away. If you got two, if you got 20 in the last two games, you take some of those away. Even though you were able to win the last game, I think the game and the result is a little different. If he handles in a little bit more careful with the ball in this game tonight,

[Uncle Ocho]

there's no question about it. Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe]

No, I agree, but this is why I say in this Western Conference finals, this is why I say, man, they gonna beat each other up so damn bad. The hell whoever get to the finals, you just gotta hope they healthy, bro. You know what I mean? Because look, look, look how many times your top guys from shade to wimy castle. These guys hit the floor so much, bro. You know what I mean? And I'm like, they out there competing at the highest level. I, I, I love it, but I just feel like the, the game is so intense. And you can see it, bro, every play, every possession. You have to value it. Look at OK bench. Look at OKC bench. Okay. OO 17 from Caruso, 12 for McCain, 10 from Mitchell, 12 from Wallace. This is where, this is where you win the game, fellas. You need a lot, you need, you don't need no one. Got to be spectacular. You just need a bunch of guys to chip in and you know, some way somehow try to try to get a win. But I thought, I thought the Thunder would have more desperate team tonight. You can see it from the jump

[Guest Analyst]

when you think about this game. Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Go ahead.

[Guest Analyst]

The way these boys playing really aggressive. Everybody on the goddamn flow. They scrambled for every ball. They crashing the boards like crazy. Like they like depending on what is the best boxing match you've ever seen in life. The best. The best. Just, just think about it.

[Uncle Ocho]

The best boxing match probably war Mickey Ward.

[Guest Analyst]

Exactly. That just in, just in basketball terms with the way they got damn playing.

[Joe]

Yeah, he make out the hay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, we'll talk about that. We saw Corrales get up off the floor several times and come back and Win. I think the thing is, Joe, and I agree with you because they playing so hard. You've got to play every possession as if it's your last.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because you never know. And the thing that I love about each team, and this is why they're going to be good for a long time. They can put out any fire.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You, they team up by 12, next thing you know, we got a tie ball game.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

One team goes down, they come right back. They're not going anywhere if they value the basketball. Let's just say for the sake of argument, one team had 21 turnovers, the other team had nine. If I just say, for the sake of argument, I say, okay, 13 instead of 21. You got 13 turnovers, Joe. They win this game.

[Joe]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

They win this game. And it took like, because think about it. It took a Herculean effort from Wimby to, to overcome the 10 turnovers.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So he didn't give. He played phenomenal. And he can just do things no other NBA player has ever been able to do. And I'm not. And I'm not so sure he should be able to do it. How the hell you lay the ball up on one side, miss it, and come back and dump it on the damn other side? What the hell is that about? Come on, Joe. You ain't what you're supposed to be able to do, bro.

[Joe]

You listen, that's why I say in real time, man. We watching a transcending player. Somebody who's going to change the trajectory of the game, bro. Like, you know, you, you. A lot of people may not really see it right now, but of course it's kind of hard not to. I mean, he, he got so much with that length, bro. The way he shot black. He had four blocks tonight, but hell, we all know they driving in there, they ain't even looking at the damn rim. They like, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. Let me see who I can get the damn ball to. Because they don't want to even try to shoot over him. I, I thought Hardenstein played great with

[Uncle Ocho]

some great minutes tonight.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Doing a lot of the veteran stuff, hooking him, holding him a little bit. A lot of stuff that the ref can't see. He can't, Ref can't see all that. You know what I mean? So the physicality that OKC came out with, I thought it was tremendous, bro. But for Shay, for Shay to really be effective, he's really gonna have to show why he's the mvp. I thought he played pretty good tonight, but uncle ooh, he's gotta take and he's gotta make tough shots, bro. He gonna have to take and make tough shots. They just got too much attention on him. Even when he started to make a couple, you see, they started to double

[Uncle Ocho]

it, you know what I mean?

[Joe]

Make him a passer. So he gotta take. When he sees.

[Uncle Ocho]

Clearly y' all see that?

[Joe]

When he sees those little creases and those opportunities, he gotta take them, bro. And a lot of them shots gonna be tough, but he's capable of making them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey, Joe, you said something very interesting. You say Hardenstein is doing some stuff. He's grabbing him, clutching him. And refs can't see that. They can't see that in okc. It's amazing how the eyes get clear. What they get to say. They get to say, Antonio Hardenstein was

[Guest Analyst]

nice, nice tonight, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, on the glass. You see how many second chances.

[Guest Analyst]

I was just gonna say that not only the second chance opportunities, right? But, but he was so effective all during the game. He gave you 10. But what he meant to this game, for them to win, it don't even show up in the box score. They don't even show up in the box score. So I mean them, the, the second chance points, him rebounding, you know, defensively. I mean, a dude for someone that can't move, huh? He can't move completely. Hartenstein, he completely different from omb. Completely different. He played one hell of a goddamn game tonight. And he fits so perfect with what they want to do over there in okc. It. It's pretty dope.

[Joe]

Okay, hey, listen. When you listen to him, he said in the first game, they just kind of let Wimby kind of roam around, do what he wanted. Hell, they kept a body on his ass. They kept chugging him tonight. You know, I seen him complain to the ref a time or two, so that's when you know you doing your damn job.

[Uncle Ocho]

They pick it. They were being physical out past the damn three point line. Joe, I saw. I saw Chet trying to lean on him. I saw Hardenstein trying to lean on him outside the damn three point line. They're not even letting him get inside the three line before they're physical and touching him up. You got to but ask about the input, the impact of moving Hardenstein on the wimby. SG answered, I'm not sure if it was good, to be honest. Bill Simmons tweeted. I don't. I didn't think Hardenstein would be playable. In this series. But if he's going to be allowed to maul and grab women like on every play, he could play 48 minutes, which is hilarious. SGA, you're a two time MVP and you know more basketball than I ever know. The only reason that you're not down O2 is because of what Hardenstein was able to do is and keep Wimy off the glass and do all the things that he was able to do. He gave you 10 points and he gave you valuable, valuable minutes. Because there are a lot of times when you got Caruso or you got D on him, he was going over there back, getting the rebound and putting it back in. So when you go back and look at at this film, which I, I'm sure you would, and I look the emotion of the game and I don't know if you really heard the question of what she was asking, but the reason why you're not down 02, you played extremely well. But Hardenstein did an unbelievable job. If you can believe 21 and 17 with four blocks is doing an unbelievable job. It is considering that he had 41 and 24 in four blocks the other night. You held. Think about what you held him to. Yeah, 20 points fewer and seven fewer rebounds.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, I like that small lineup that OKC plays where Wimby has to be. See, when Hardenstein in there, he ain't really got a guard. Hardenstein, I mean, yeah, he made some floaters. I like his touch that he got around the basket. Okay, Ocho. But for the most part he's still able to kind of linger around and be that free safety, you know what I mean? To where I could just kind of seek everybody out. But when you put Caruso in and they had to stretch that floor and he got a guard of shooter, the game changes tremendously, bro. But like you say, you have to do your work early with Wemby, bro. Like I'm talking about, catch him chugging, make him fight you all the way down to that low block. Cause see, from 10ft in, he is always gonna be advantage. But if you catch him 20, 17ft outside, man, you got a great chance you get. You just gotta hope he missed. But you let him catch it within 10ft of that basket, shit your ass in trouble.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, the problem is, you know, they're gonna said all this stuff that they were doing that they didn't call tonight. They're gonna turn that into the league, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, the official in the next game, the NBA is gonna tell them to be Watching this?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so the question is if they call it now, it's going to be a different ball game. Plus he's able to sit more solid screens than Chad. Chad played okay tonight. They did a great job of check. Got a couple of points late in the ball game that, that kept, kept him in front. But I thought the turnovers because they were down one and then all of a sudden they go two, three turnovers back to back. And they'd hit back to back threes. It wasn't like a three and a two. They'd hit back to back threes and stretch it and make it. And make it a three possession game. And give OKC credit because now you see why they have the league's two time mvp. You see why they're going for a back to back title. Because they didn't flinch in adversity. Had a big old lead. Next thing you know they cut that thing down in the blink of an eye. Yeah, the spurs were right back in the hill. The funny thing right in the hill

[Guest Analyst]

is obviously basketball is a game of runs. And you see the spurs being able to get back into the game even when the goddamn Thunder had a goddamn lead. Look at the goddamn. The turnover difference. 21 9. Yeah, 21 9. And you're still making.

[Joe]

That's the game.

[Guest Analyst]

You're still making runs to get back in the game. Just imagine if you were able to protect the ball.

[Joe]

And look Ocho and your, and your point guard had. He had nine, 10 of them. Damn turnover crazy. You know what I mean? But, but, but I. Hey look, San Antonio obviously watching film. Castle has to watch the film because he has to be better in taking care of their rock. Cause that could be the difference in them being up two zero versus versus the series being one.

[Guest Analyst]

Joe, you know what's funny too now that I think about it. How do you as a coach, obviously you played the game. I know you're not a coach in the NBA, but you would have a better understanding based on experience. When you have a player like Castle that is as good as he is offensively and defensively and you love his aggression and what he brings to the game. How do you have a conversation with him about turning the ball over without. Without taking away that edge that he has and he brings to the game.

[Joe]

Well, that's the, that's. That's kind of hard, Uncle Ocho, because he's such a young player, 21 years old, his second year in the league, you putting a lot on him to being your primary ball handler and you right Ocho. I really don't, I don't want to take away his aggression, bro. I, I, I love how he attacks the basket, but you have to show him clips of himself on tape and be like, look, I, I, I, I don't want to take your aggression away. I want you to take chances. But at the same time you gotta take, you gotta take care of this. You gotta be smart, you gotta be a lot better with this ball. Because if he's better then obviously the, the series could be a lot different. But like, oh, but like oak say maybe Fox come back in game three and then he could just kind of go back to being that, that guy who he's been all year, that two way player.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're absolutely right because you look at this.

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[Joe]

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[Uncle Ocho]

OKC had 34 assists, San Antonio had 22. Spurs had five steals, OKC had 14. Spurs had 21 turnovers, OKC had nine. Spurs shot better from the floor.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Better from the three. Better from the free throw line.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

Normally when you do that, it's like if I tell you, well, one team shot better from the floor, better from the three point line, better from the free throw line, but they lost. I said the first thing I'm gonna do, let me go to the turnovers. Yeah, it's like the NFL. Oh, choice. You know, it's like NFL One team got more passing yards, more rushing yards, more first down. But they lost. Okay, let me see how many turnovers they had.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

The greatest indicator of a team the most of the time. Not always. There's always, there's, there's no such thing as always. Every but a great indicator of a team winning and losing is the turnover. Turn that ball over

[Joe]

and they, and they creating points and opportunities off them turnovers. That's what really kill you. You know what I mean? It's like the opportune times that you turn it over, you know, it ain't like you turn it over and they walking up here, you turn it over. Them, them folks going down there, score

[Uncle Ocho]

it, leading the point. I don't. You don't give me a chance to set my defense.

[Joe]

There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause if I give up pick six and scoop and score though, Joe, my defense, no matter how good they are, they don't even get a chance to get on the field. I ain't expecting a big. I ain't expecting no old lineman to be doing and quarterbacks to be tackling.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so that was. I. I think that is the biggest difference in the game. If they get Fox back, they get a guy that's, that's, that is a true point that can handle the rock that is accustomed to handling rock. We put a lot of pressure on a second year player. Yes, he's the reigning. Yes, he was. He won rookie of the year. But we're asking a lot. Normally we don't put that kind of pressure unless it's Magic Johnson.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what I'm saying? That's that. That's normally, especially in situations like this, I'm trying to think, have we ever had a second year guy? I mean, take it go this far. I don't know what happened. I can't think off the top of my head other than Magic Johnson. I'm sure there have been. There have been some series where first or second year guy, but I don't really recall off the top of my head. So we're asking a guy, we put him in a situation that he's not used to being in, especially a pressurized situation like this. Yeah, they're different. Yeah, but what Fox was out in the regular season. Boy, the regular season of football and basketball and baseball and sports are entirely different than them playoffs.

[Joe]

Hello. Hello.

[Uncle Ocho]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you think it's the same, if you think the intensity level is the same, if you think a player's nerves are the same, you're sadly mistaken.

[Joe]

You're right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Guys know it.

[Guest Analyst]

I got one thing I don't know if. If people's intentions or how they feel about playoff and regular season basketball, but that goddamn Crusoe. Joe.

[Joe]

Hey, he's stepping up. O. Joe.

[Guest Analyst]

Joe.

[Joe]

He's stepping up, man.

[Guest Analyst]

The man was fighting.

[Uncle Ocho]

We said he wasn't gonna make eight more threes. Joe, Joe. He made five.

[Guest Analyst]

Damn young boys. Young boy, so efficient, man. And then he. Not only that, he gonna. He gonna. He gonna shoot your lights out. Then he gonna get in your face. Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Three or four.

[Guest Analyst]

Get round. Get around me if you can.

[Joe]

They. Hey look, OKC has seven guys in double figures and four of those guys came off the bench, fella, you know. Yeah, from. From a team standpoint, if I'm a head coach, that's what I need from my bench, bro. Hey, look, if some of my starters ain't really got it going like I think check gotta. He gotta play better. Meaning just be. Play with a little more thrust, assert himself a little more. Because I think he's such a game changer and I think, you know, he's still continuously, you know, learning too. But when your bench can come in like this, bro, and put. And put it down, put. They stamp down on the game. This is what you want. But guess what? San Antonio got the same thing. They got so many guys who can beat you as well. I mean, Vasile Tonight, what's Basil had? 22, 7 for 14. Obviously, Keldon Johnson came in, gave him some great minutes, but, man, I. I just think this is going to be a hell of A series. I think, I even think it's going to go to distance. I mean, hopefully these injuries don't dictate, you know, these games. Hopefully Harper can come back. I don't think J Dub gonna be able to come with that hamstring. You see, look, this just game too, fellas. Hell, he only played seven, eight minutes that hamstring, bro. Because the playoffs is revved up so high, you cannot sustain that with them soft tissue injuries, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know what happened? What? That game went to double overtime.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he stressed it. And they was. They were so. They. They forgot that he was coming off an injury. You probably say, you know what? Because would you have rather lose that, win this game and lose him because it was gonna happen?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or lose it, Lose that game and have him for the remainder of the series. Because think about what you ask him to do. You play that man down there 40 minutes in his first game back after an injury.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Normally they put you on a limits restriction. Yeah, normally when you come back, he's gonna play. He's gonna play 20 minutes, he's gonna play 25 minutes. This man played more minutes than he would have paid played in the regular season game.

[Guest Analyst]

That also came down to him too, because I think even if they try to put him on a minute restriction, if he's saying he's okay, oh, I can go. I mean, what they gonna tell him?

[Joe]

Well, you, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they gotta be smart because you're the doctors.

[Joe]

Gotta.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're the doctors. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta protect Ocho from Ocho because I do know Ocho and Joe want to play. Yeah, that's how we're. That's how we're engineered. Even when they said, look here, man, I'm gonna make the same amount. The way most athletes are wired, even though we know we're going to get our paycheck whether we play or not. Now let me earn my playcheck. I'm trying to get up out there. Yeah, everybody's not wired like that. The most, most athletes, that's how they're wired and that's why you have to have a backstop, somebody that can protect them from themselves. Say, yes, I understand that you want to play. I understand that you feel good. But you have to understand you've also been out for about 10, 12 days and think about it going up and down. And to put 40 minutes on a hamstring like that.

[Joe]

Yeah. The hardest thing is. Yeah, you right, Ocho. It's hard to talk a player out of it because in the heat of it. Hell, if he was in the third or fourth quarter, he probably was like, oh, no, I'm good, I'm good. I'm gonna keep going. You know what I mean? And it's just little stuff like that, that as a competitor, bro, you can't take yourself out of that. You know this. Hey, hey, hey. We playing way up here somewhere. You feel me? Like, hey, I'm locked in. Yeah, I know I'm gonna probably be hurting tomorrow, but right now we, hey, we trying to get one.

[Uncle Ocho]

And the pro, and the pro. The problem is that it's, it's one day. He don't got two days.

[Joe]

That's tough.

[Uncle Ocho]

And if you think about it, Joe, I think he played 39 minutes. So he played all 10 minutes of the overtime. So think about how long he was sitting.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And the hardest thing, you know, the thing is with those soft tissues, you got to keep them warm. Man, that thing get cold, man. Hey, that's why you on the stationary bike. You trying to time it up just right. You don't want to do too much, but you don't want to do too little and have it still. When you try to go back out there and you dragging it and you know, you very attentive, cuz, you know, man, that thing like, damn, I just, I, I, I, I can get, I can do it. I can get through. I can get through. No, you can't. No, you can't. So it's gonna be, it's gonna be very interesting to see how that. I think, I don't think he, for me, just looking at him and got that ice on there. I don't see him coming back this series.

[Joe]

Nah.

[Uncle Ocho]

A Jay Mitchell. I want to see. I don't. Because he grabbed, he grabbed. I don't know if it was his quad. Yeah, that's what it looked like. He grabbed Joe. Am I, was I seeing things?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, no, he grabbed his quad. But I mean, he had, he had a look in his eyes like, damn, I think I really messed something up. He had that look in his eyes. But yes, I don't know. He did. He, he went out the game, didn't he? He didn't come back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Didn't come back. Nope. And if you, and also Joe, we have been talking about this. Oo. We've been talking about this. This is what makes the OKC so dangerous. You see, they bench. Nobody else has a bench like that that can give you guys, and give you three, four guys in the most important game and give you double Digit and do it at an efficient level. That's what makes them so unique. Because remember, we saw. Think about it. Every time Shay went to the bench, they were better with sh. Ch. I'm not saying they're better team with. But when Shay went to the bench against the Lakers, every time they exploded. Yeah, he go to the benches entire game. He come back in. They up nine. Yeah, they up ten. Where they do that at?

[Joe]

Right, right. Look, hey, hey, I. I think. I think now okc, they gonna have to go back with Wallace at the two. I mean, hell, he been playing great ball. He making shots. He's being disruptive. You know, four assists, four steals. Yeah. I mean, at this point, this is what you got now on the road. Shay gonna have to be Shay in order for them to win. Like, yeah, like, it's gonna be hard for you to really depend on some of these role players. Now, I know they wanted last year and they the defending champs, and Caruso has been playing great for the past couple games. But on the road, bro, they gonna need Shay to be Shay, and you gonna need Check Hornrick to give you like a 22 and 12 game. He need a big game. Okay, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

He does.

[Joe]

You need a big game.

[Uncle Ocho]

And if you think about it, because basically, you know what it is, Joe? It's not one. You got to combine chat numbers and Hardenstein numbers. Points, rebounds, and assists and blocks. That's wimby. Yeah, because that's wimby's competition, not just one. So we go back and add them up. When we look at it, we go back and look. Let me see what they got, because I think it was close, Joe.

[Joe]

23 and 17 for Hardenstein and Hungry. That's 20. They had 23 and 17.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so guess what they did. They neutralized. Women had 21 and 17. See? So that's how we got to do it. Oh, Jojo. Joe, we've got.

[Joe]

We.

[Uncle Ocho]

Our two got to equal your one.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Uncle Ocho]

Last game, what they have wasn't even close.

[Joe]

It wasn't, bro. It wasn't.

[Uncle Ocho]

So this is how they got to play it. They've got. It's got to be two versus one, because one is not enough. Chet ain't messing with him. Hardenstein, obviously. Now, you saw Hardenstein shot a floater so high it didn't even touch the net he went through. You see how high he shot that ball, Joe? Yeah, he had to.

[Joe]

He had to, man. Listen, Wimby is such a game changer, fellas. I mean, he. He. He requires so much Attention. And I think one of the. One of the best attributes of his game is passing the ball, man. He does everything well, obviously. Scoring, shot, blocking. But for big guys to be able to get that ball out real quick and quick and fast, so. So his shooters can have time, man, he does that with the best of them, Uncle Ocho. Meaning, you know what I mean? Like, he ain't always looking to score. He gonna make the right play every time, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. I love the way he plays. I love. I love the passion that he plays with. And it's like he make him. Yeah, he make a mistake or his teammates make a mistake, he ain't, you know. You know, sometimes you see that body leverage everybo, like, dang, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's okay. And guys are gonna love playing with him. Are gonna love playing with him, because he knows he can. He can erase a lot of my mistakes.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle Ocho]

I make a mistake on defense, go on back there to that eraser, going back there.

[Joe]

Facts.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because not only is he a problem, he's an issue.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So, you know, you got issues, you got to troubleshoot those problems you try to solve.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Keep both of them.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So at the whole part, you try to show. Okay. Mr. Johnson, I think what's going on with your car right here. Let me. Let me. Let me put it on the lift. I can get up under there and see. Right. I can maybe troubleshoot some things.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Then they're gonna come out. Mr. Johnson, we got a problem. Your ordinator, your voltage regulator, your cataclysmic converter.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Shot.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's Wimby. Yeah. He's 75. Who. Lord have mercy. He can shoot at a high percentage from the three. He could put the ball on the floor, and in one step, one and a half step, he can dunk the ball from the three point line. He can erase all mistakes that our defense make.

[Joe]

It's tough, bro. He. He makes the game easier for those guys around him, bro. Think about it. If you're a point guard, Uncle Ocho, that's who you want to run the pick. And I seen him run the pick and roll early in the game, and he popped, and it kind of messed. Okay, See? Up he popped, caught it. Shot of three.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boom. If he making that.

[Joe]

If he making that, it's a rap, bro, because what the hell we supposed to do? We can't switch it. You know what I mean? I just think he's too much of a deadly weapon, bro. Like he's showing everything. And the fact that he just plays poise, patience. He understands and knows, man, look, from here on out, it's gonna be physical and I gotta prepare myself for it.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're right.

[Joe]

You just. Hey, I'm just such a huge fan of Harper, bro. I hate to see him go out. Okay, Ochre, I'm talking about the way he be big by. Man, that man going at Lou dork

[Uncle Ocho]

like that man, you say pushing him up under the basket, right over the top of it.

[Joe]

That man, 28. Uncle. The man 20 years old, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Did you see how he got the rebound? How he got hurt? How he got that rebound with one hand, like, hey, all in one motion.

[Guest Analyst]

You think. You think he hyper extended his knee?

[Uncle Ocho]

I thought it was his ankle.

[Joe]

It might have been his knee.

[Guest Analyst]

I don't know.

[Joe]

I hope he's young enough, he can bounce right on back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, you know the old people say, you ain't got no bone, boy, you got gristle. Get your ass up. Man.

[Joe]

This.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, this is an unbelievable series. Thus far, this series has been everything that we anticipated that it would be.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nothing more.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, Un. And Joe, I don't know what the price of course side tickets would be for a series like this. Whether they playing in Oklahoma, whether they playing in San Antonio. But that, but what we've seen the last two games would be worth the price of admission for a seven game series regardless to the price of them damn tickets. Because you know exactly what you're getting.

[Joe]

Yeah, listen, you remember back back in the day when the Lakers had that great team with Kobe and Shaq and you know, they played Portland in the Western Conference finals or they played Sacramento in the Western because we all thought they played San Antonio in the Western Conference finals. We all felt like that was the finals for real. Because when they went on to the finals, they were sweeping through Indiana, they sweeping through New Jersey.

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[Joe]

This kind of, this, this kind of what it feels like to me in, in this west. This feels like the finals, you know what I mean? And whoever comes out of this, obviously if they can stay healthy, they gonna probably have a better chance of winning a title.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, this WIMBY is, like I said, I think they're gonna turn, you know how it always is. I don't know what Mr. Johnson's gonna say, but I do know that he's gonna, they're gonna turn those officials. And look at this.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

This is not basketball, this is you. And you're allowing him to do this. If you allow him to do this, there's nothing we can do. I mean, and then when he get aggressive, remember what happened last time, he said, okay, I'm gonna stop you now. Read from grabbing this. Trying to get, trying to get this ball.

[Joe]

Yeah, pop.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so we don't want that. But you guys control that because remember what the coach said last time? I'm glad he protected himself. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad he protected himself. He said if the officials Won't protect him. Protect yourself.

[Joe]

Yeah, but listen, if you. Okc, that's what you want. Damn, that grab hold. Ref ain't calling all that. Yeah, they might catch you a time or two, but they ain't gone. And we hope you get pissed off and throw another elbow. Yeah, your ass gonna be done for the rest of this series, you know what I mean? If you. Okay, see, that's what you want. Hey, look, how else you gonna stop him? Yeah, you got to sit him down. I like the aggressiveness from the guards and OKC and getting to the rack and just. Even though he gonna block it, bro, you're gonna have to go through that man chest. I'm sorry, bro. You got. He. Hey, stop trying to go around and be scared of them. You're gonna have to go right at him. And then if you do miss, hopefully Hardenstein and check can clean up. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

They did a couple of times. They did a couple times.

[Joe]

Yeah, you're gonna have to go at his chest, bro. You're gonna. Hey, hey. Because, listen, if you don't give him no resistance and you try to finesse everything, I mean, he gonna be whipping that.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you can't. You can't. You can't let a shot blocker have separation between you and him. Yeah, you got to be into his body to make him do this, because he. He's going to go down some. But if you just let him be able to elevate, man, he gonna block that every time. Or you gonna throw it over the backboard. Those are your two choices. And he's a tr. He has tremendous timing with the shot block. He's tremendous with it. It's so effortless, Joe, man, I'm like. And I'll be thinking to myself, bro, did y' all actually think y' all was gonna make that? Did y' all not see him standing right there on the. I understand he could be at, like, where the guy would be at. The free throw line on a. On a box out.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And the guy on the other side and they try to lay the ball up.

[Joe]

I'm like, you thought you. I need that.

[Guest Analyst]

Give me that.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, that's what makes a great shot blocker, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Joe]

You can have all the tools, you know, the. The. The arm length, the height, but if you ain't got that damn timing, you know what I mean? To where you know and understand when to come over and help. You know, act like you ain't really paying attention. But you. You know what I'm Saying you coming from the weak side, you slapping that up, man, he got impeccable timing. He ain't just got them long arms and just seven five. Like, he understands. He understands, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Man, this was an unbelievable. This was, this was unbelievable game. And then on the other side, Shay, what. What do we say? What do we say about Shay? Is there enough that we can say about him? Because down the stretch, you know when you get that one on one and he puts that shoulder in you to create that separation, you let him elevate in the fourth quarter, especially clutch time. Oh, he's going in. He knocking it down.

[Joe]

Yeah, he. Hey, I noticed he has a, like, he, he has a. A nice mid range, a nice 15 footer. But Uncle Ocho, if y' all really watch the game, bro, he's shooting that thing more about 17, 18ft because, hell, I can't get too close to Wimby. You know, he. He gonna come. He gonna. Even if he jump and he don't block it, he gonna alter it. You know what I mean? I noticed that with Shay. He made a huge difference in that. And like I said earlier, bro, he gonna have to take a lot of tough shots and he damn sure gonna have to make a lot of them, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, that's the thing. That's the sun. I can't get too close to the sun. I get burned. Isn't that what happened to Icarus? Didn't he fly too close to the sun and he had the phone, he fell out the sky. You know, I don't want to get into too much Greek mythology, but I. I believe that's what happened to it. Y like n. Hell, dog. What you think I'mma shoot a eight footer? Hell no. We block that.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He's seven four and a half, seven five with shoes. He holds his hand up, that's nine over nine feet. He jump, man. Come on now, man.

[Joe]

It's a two. I'm talking about two great teams, bro. I'm talking about really, really. They. Both of them have difference makers on their team. I. I think San Antonio may have more than what OKC had. I'm just keeping real. But OKC got the mvp and yeah, I'm. I'm looking for Shay from here on out. This probably the best game he's had. Hell, since probably who they played in that first round. I know he played Lakers in second.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, the Suns.

[Joe]

Yeah. This probably. This probably his best game since that first round.

[Uncle Ocho]

And he was very efficient. He's 50. Yeah, he's 50 from the floor. And I. I think the thing is that what you look at, for the most part, all the guys that came off the bench, except McCain was extremely efficient. Caruso was 5 or 7, Wallace 4 of 6, Mitchell 4 of 8. McCain was 4, 14. But those shots that he did make, they were big. He hit the three that. Hey, they were one. They were one point up.

[Joe]

Boom.

[Uncle Ocho]

He hit a three, come back down, hit another.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So, yeah, he missed some shots. Yeah, he was not as efficient that as he normally is, but he made some big, timely shots that kept him in the lead, kept San Antonio at bay. But like you said, Joe, Shay, Gill just. I mean, what do you say? I mean, I think the thing is that people just. He doesn't have the flashiest game. He not up in the air with his tongue out and all that other stuff. He ain't. Yeah. I mean, he can dunk. Every once in a while, he get a breakaway, but he not. I mean, we used, like, I think the Vegas we've done gotten, so we, like, don't nobody like your game unless it's Kobe or Jordan.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

They don't really appreciate. They don't really appreciate unless, you know, you got. You know, you're doing Sidestep 3 like Harden.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

His game is more compatible to probably KD getting to his spot. Elevating.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

A shoot to three. He has that in his bag. That ain't what. He ain't trying to fall in love with that shot.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

He can get all the way to the rim. I think he'll.

[Joe]

He.

[Uncle Ocho]

He'll. He'll attack the rim a little bit more than what KD would when KD was that in that. That sweet spot of his prime. I think he attacks the rim a little more than kd. But, boy, if he ever gets to a spot that he considers his own and you let him elevate, Lord, please don't let this ball go in. I. I can't do anything about it, but just, please, let's let him. Just let him hit the front of the rim, the back of the rim. Let him hit something. Let him let a bird fly in the arena and knock it off course. Joe, you. Yo, Joe, you can't do anything but pray.

[Joe]

You can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

You let him elevate at that. You know, like Joe said, somewhere between 12 and 18ft, it's a rat.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, he got, like, a little. Shea got like, a little hitch in his shot. I don't know if y' all know

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe I was thinking about. I said This. I was thinking the same thing.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. And I think, I think it makes it. I think that's why his three point game isn't where, you know, I think a lot of us would like for it to be. Because him, the, the farther he is, like, he ain't really got a whole hell of a lot of range. He'll shoot one deep every now and then. But you know how Luka, he always shooting 2, 3ft.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, Luka shooting from 33, 32, 30 for sure.

[Joe]

Luca has a very fluid shot. Shay shot isn't very fluid. It has a little hitch in it.

[Uncle Ocho]

It like he gets up there and holds it.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has like.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. I thought I was the only one seeing something. I was like, am I see, Am I seeing something?

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, hey, Joe, when you, when you say hitch, what, what, what, what you mean by that?

[Joe]

It's like, it's like he'll go and then he'll be up there and then he'll just. It had like a little, it's like a little hitch in it. It's like a little hit.

[Uncle Ocho]

You shoot the butt. Ocho. When you shoot the ball, you like booster. Yeah, yeah. He goes up and it's almost like he pauses. Yeah, okay. And then he shoots.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think, I think that has a lot to do with why his three point shot kind of suffers a little bit. You know what I mean? Because in this, in this series against the spurs, bro, in order for the order, in order for the defense to loosen up. For a guy like Shay who operates within the three point line. Yes, he's gonna have, he, he, he has to make a couple of these so these guys can be honest. Because right now they just kind of back on them heels and they just kind of playing him. Cause they know he's just trying to get to a spot. He's the best. Yeah, he's the best in getting to his spot, rising up, you know, whether he's creating contact or he gonna make. He gonna make some tough tools. But in order for him, I think his next step. And obviously we talking about a damn two time mvp. Yeah, you know, him being a little more efficient behind that three point line. I mean, hell, he already averaged 33 and 32 or 33 this season, but it'll take his average up even more, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

But he, he, he's one hell of a basketball player. And it seems to be only getting better. He wants to get better. He has an unquenchable desire to get better, to work on his game. And man, like I said, this is, this is, this series here is going. I, I believe it's going six or seven. I, I would not be disappointed if it went seven. But they're gonna have to get. They're gonna have to get a game and. Okay, they're gonna have to get a game in San Antonio, Joe.

[Joe]

I think they're gonna be.

[Uncle Ocho]

The game in San Antonio. They might get that game when they go back, but I'm not so sure with the injuries to J Dub and a job. And a job. Mitchell.

[Guest Analyst]

It depends.

[Joe]

You gotta wait.

[Guest Analyst]

You gotta, you gotta wait to. You gotta wait. You gotta wait till we find out what. What happened. You know, Hope, hopefully you. You'd want to see both teams at full strength. You want to see both teams of full strength to get your best matchup possible. So I'm hoping for the best for both of them young Bulls, man, so they can continue to play in this series and get the people what they want to see.

[Uncle Ocho]

I, I just don't. I just don't see a scenario that J Dub is back in the series.

[Joe]

Yeah, it's going to be tough, but

[Uncle Ocho]

he just got, he just got back from a hamstring injury and he re. Injured it. Normally when you re injure a hamstring, it takes you longer to return than when you went out originally with it.

[Joe]

Hey, damn, that Shay gotta put that cape on. Hey, hey, he knows at stake. Damn, J Dub, about. Damn. I gotta take this thing up another couple notches, you know what I mean? Like, hey, hey, we can, we need, we need a few more of you guys to step up, bro, because we all gonna have to feel that void. But as the mvp, okay, Ocho, she gonna take his game to another level. Check. Gonna have to be better. But you gotta look at San Antonio too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they got a seven foot piece of kryptonite over there.

[Joe]

Yeah, but, but I'm saying without Dylan Harper, oo hell, that's gonna be. That's gonna be a huge difference for them too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes, but you forgetting there's a. I believe there's a great possibility that Dearon Fox is back in game three. Yeah.

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[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now he's back. Joe Kelton Johnson has been great the series. We know he's the sixth man of the year. We know he can explode. He's been relatively quiet. He's made big time rebounds, big a big strong putbacks. I love that about him. It love that about him making timely big shots. But if Shay's gonna be Shane, let's just say for the. For the sake of argument, moving forward, he's gonna probably give you. He's gonna be around his average. Yeah, he's gonna be around his average, man. But that 75 puts a piece of kryptonite. You bet. You kept him under control tonight. I mean, if you. Because he wasn't. The thing was, I don't think he shot that many free throws now.

[Joe]

He shot two.

[Uncle Ocho]

No. And he only had 16 shots, Joe. Yeah, let us think it. He was 50 from the floor with only 16 shots. No. Hey, women. I need you to get at least 20, 20, 22. I need you to get to the free throw line somewhere between no less than five. Yeah, but the closer to ten. I like that.

[Joe]

You know, he gonna be a lot more aggressive at home. You know, that crowd in San Antonio is going to be unbelievable. You know, these young guys will fuel off that, they'll thrive off that. They'll play a lot better. But, man, I just think. I know Fox is coming back, but without Dylan Harper. Both of them are two totally different guards. You know, Harper is six' six. I mean, hell, he playing big boy ball down there. You know what I mean? Fox gonna play great, you know, in between games, shooting floaters, shoot this midi. You know, creating opportunities for guys, you know, around him. But it's just. I think you need both of them, you know what I mean? Playing against this OKC team, bro, you gonna need both of them. I think Harper gonna be a huge blow if he ain't able to play, you know, throughout the rest of the series.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just think. I think. I think Fox puts so much more pressure on your defense because he is so cat quick.

[Joe]

Yes, you.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's hard for one guy, even though they have elite defenders to keep up with him.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, he's hard.

[Uncle Ocho]

See, the difference is, is that one guy is cat quick, frail, play on edges. Harper is a big body guy. He gonna play through you.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So. And the question is.

[Joe]

Now,

[Uncle Ocho]

normally Caruso is the first guy off the bench.

[Joe]

Do you start Caruso?

[Uncle Ocho]

That's. That's where I was heading.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because if. If a Jay Mitchell is out, if J Dub is out. So that's two guards. So now you're gonna put. You're gonna ask more. You're gonna ask more. So now he's not gonna be as fresh because he's gonna be playing starters minutes, not Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wallace. He's not going to be as fresh. He's going to be playing major minutes.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So it's Going to be very, very interesting. I love this. I love this cat and mouse game we're about to see on Friday night. What's going to be popping. I know what they play at. And T. What's the name of the arena they play in, Joe?

[Joe]

t? I think so. I.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's. What's the name of it? Frostbank Center.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I remember, you know, when I was growing up playing the Hemisphere.

[Joe]

Yeah. The name of the arena, it wasn't the Alamo. It wasn't. They played.

[Uncle Ocho]

The hemisphere was first and then the Alamo, I think.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. I heard playing in the Alamo Dome was different.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I could imagine.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because, Joe, when you. When you. When you're the only show in town.

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, everybody out to see you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're Packers. You're the only show in town.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What else you gonna do if you're in San Antonio? What is he gonna do, Joe? Okay, see, what else you gonna do? You go check out football game. What about hockey? What about baseball? Hell, you ain't even got a kickball championship, so you ain't got nothing to do but to go there.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, they. It may be two small markets, but they got some great fan bases, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You know, that's what happens when you have small markets. You look at again, look at the packers, look at YouTube. Do they not sell out every game? Yeah, and they ravenous, them cheese heads, green and gold. That's all you can see. Like, damn. Y' all ain't got nothing else to do but come support the packers, huh?

[Joe]

Hey, hey, that's how it is. That's how it is Buffalo.

[Guest Analyst]

Worse, boy, when it comes to fan appreciation and showing up whether it's sunny, whether it's cold, whether it's raining, they're going crazy out there in Buffalo. But one of the.

[Joe]

Hey, one.

[Guest Analyst]

If not the fan base.

[Joe]

Listen, look. Look at them old Utah Jazz teams when they had Malone and Stockton. Hell, ain't nothing else in Utah. Yeah, ain't nothing else in Utah outside the Jazz festival. But yeah, them small market teams, bro, they go hard for their teams, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

They do.

[Joe]

They do.

[Uncle Ocho]

They do.

[Joe]

They gonna show up and show out.

[Uncle Ocho]

All right, guys, as we move along,

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[Uncle Ocho]

coach Kenny Atkinson defends James Harden defensive struggles in Game 1 against the Knicks. That's the NBA. One thing about James, I'll just defend him. He's as good isolation defender, always has been. He's super smart, he's got great hands this team. This is a team defense at the level it's a team defense and are we, are we helping sending them in the right direction? I know everybody's putting it on James but I say a lot is on the team. Our defense, some of it was him and there are a couple of blow bys but I'd argue it was a team defense too. Joe, I, I.

[Joe]

You know what? I guess hell you know if your coach stand up for you bright or wrong and different. Hell you know if that's your Partner, you know you gonna take up for him. Well, it don't matter how. Yeah, how he look out there. You know what I mean? Man, come on, man. You know them last in that fourth quarter net overtime. Come on, bro. You know, but I get it though. I get it as a head coach. I ain't trying to throw my, my main, one of my main guys under the bus. I ain't trying to make him. I ain't trying to bring no different morale than what we already got. We already got the outsiders talking bad about him or whatever the case may be. I gotta lift him up. I get that part.

[Uncle Ocho]

But Joe, before you go, Ocho, before you go, take a look at this. If we thought it was bad, if we thought Harden was going to take some accountability. He also said the team needs to do a better job on Bronson. Let's take a listen to the video. Brunson had some success against you personally lately, the game.

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How do you assess your defense against him?

[J]

I mean, he made some tough ones. He made some tough ones. But, you know, obviously we all know he's a great one on one player. And, you know, I think anybody on the island, it's going to be difficult. So we gotta do a better job of making sure he sees bodies, you know, on the other end. You know, they do a good job of, you know, supporting him and helping him when he's on the island. So he made some tough ones, but we gotta do a better job as a team just because it's not a one man job. So, you know, gotta be better in that aspect. I think he made a couple of them which, you know, really got them going.

[Guest Analyst]

You know what, Unc? It's a little different though, Joe. You have to understand, you have to stand the moment, the time in the game. I know it's a team effort collectively, especially during the game, you know, when you're making your runs. But in those specific moments where, damn, they're just ISO ball and everybody's on their man and you got the lock in, you got to lock down in that specific moment. It's just you and him. Regardless of whether it being a team effort or not, I need you to, I need you to get money. Right now. We need to stop and you are Garden Brunson. We need you to handle him right now. Don't let him beat you on the first dribble. Just don't let him go by you uncle. Like you say, if you do that, you put us in the goddamn hucklebuck. Oh, whoever say that guy does you joke. Come on, man, just. Just do. Do something. Every single time. It was one on one. He beat you every single time. At some point, you gotta want to. I'm not sure what coach is watching. I'm not sure if coach watch film. You don't want to throw your play out on the bus. I understand that, but, like, come on now. Come on now.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, for me, Akin Ojo, as a player and a guy who's played in this league and been in these positions, bro, you got to have some type of accountability, homie. You know what I mean? Just take, take. Look, look, look. Yeah, hell yeah, he made some tough shots. You know, he a hell of a player. He probably gonna be an all NBA player bad boy. But, bruh, just take a little accountability and say, man, I gotta be a little better. Because, listen, when your teammates hear that, bro, they gonna respect you a lot more. You know what I'm saying? Okay, Ocho, like, but for you to say, yeah, we gotta. We gotta do better collectively as a team, which we probably do a little bit. And he gotta see bodies, bro. We just need one stop. We just need to sit in that chair one time, moving feet a few. A few possessions and don't give up nothing easy. I don't give a damn what nobody say. A man score 11, 12 straight on me. Damn. Now I'm raised my hand, man. My bad, bro. You know, I can't, you know, and the next one probably gonna be a hard damn foul. Yeah, I'll just keep it real, bro.

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[Guest Analyst]

In defense of James Harden, huh? And Joe, in defense of James Harden. This is Brunson. He do every. Every goddamn body like this.

[Joe]

Come on, Ocho. Come on, bro. Come on. Nah, nah. Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Don't say damn it.

[Joe]

Damn that. We're in the Eastern Conference finals, homie. This is for a chance to go to the finals, bro. Like you mean to tell me. Hold on. We can't. Hey, hey, hey. You have to make him uncomfortable, Uncle Ocho. Meaning Brunson, bro. Y' all go, man. If you get a chance, go look at the game. I'm talking about the last half. Half, half of the fourth quarter in overtime, bro. It was no resistance to him bringing the ball up the court. They didn't really start playing defense until he got over half court, you know what I'm saying? Like, too late. It's too late, bro. You have to make his ass work. From the time he in ball that ball, in ball that the ball until, you know, until he try to get into his bag and hopefully you don't warm down by then. But for a guy to just casually be able to walk up the court, run some time off. Okay. Boom. You. No, no, no, no, no.

[Uncle Ocho]

You.

[Joe]

Man, that's too. Hell no. Hell no.

[Uncle Ocho]

What's up? That'll be like a DB getting cooked. And then he come out there where the defense got to do a better job. Miles Garrett ain't covered him. You got him.

[Joe]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho]

And that's what. That's basically what Kenny Atkinson said. The defense got to do a better job. Well, damn. If I take one step and the guy already completed the pass. I don't know what you want me to do. My job as a defensive back, you said. Okay. Make him clutch the ball. If I make it. If I make him clutch the ball. If I make him. If he wants to go. If he wants to throw the ball to Ocho, if I make him like, oh, no, you ain't going to Ocho. Okay, I've done my job.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Garrett or whomever. Micah, the what? Y' all gotta get there. He didn't make him do that. He got to his spot. So how could I. How could I help you if you already let the man in the house?

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

let the man in, Joe. I can't do nothing. I can't. I mean, what you want me to do now?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, that's funny.

[Uncle Ocho]

And like you said, Joe, at some point in time, you say, you know what.

[Joe]

Ah, hell no, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on, man. Got three. Hit me or three. Boom. Oh, that's a tough one there.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come back. Get me to. Get me a. Get me a guy with the floater. Five.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Seven, ten. Oh, hell no. Not. Not another one. Now I gotta put this soup bone up. I gotta make you think. You gotta think about something other than put the damn ball in the basket, man, listen.

[Joe]

Told y', all, I'm in full out denial. You score that many points on me, bro? Like I. Hey, hey, hey. I've been there, bro. I've been there where it's hard to cool the guy off, you know, sometimes. Sometimes, you know, you. Hell, you can't do nothing but hard file his ass one time, Uncle Ocho. But, man, in this situation, this setting, playing in New York and hell, we done blew a damn 22 point lead. Man, please, boy, somebody got.

[Guest Analyst]

You been in that situation before, Joe.

[Joe]

Man, I remember playing it couldn't cool down.

[Guest Analyst]

It was somebody who couldn't cool down. They were getting the money, boy.

[Joe]

Nah, damn that. They couldn't cool me down.

[Guest Analyst]

No, I'm saying I'm saying, have you

[Uncle Ocho]

ever been in a situation?

[Joe]

Well, I'm finna tell you. I'm finna tell you.

[Uncle Ocho]

What?

[Joe]

Nothing they could do. I scored about 12 straight. This. This game seven when I was playing in Brooklyn. We playing in Toronto. In Toronto. Game seven, neck and neck. Game five. Six minutes left, Ocho. Running them things off.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bing, bing.

[Guest Analyst]

Back to back.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joke.

[Joe]

Come on, man. Come on. I'm gonna have to send you some clips, man. You ain't been doing your job.

[Guest Analyst]

I did my homework, Joe. That's why I keep coming at your neck.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, if you did some homework, maybe you shit your ass up, do some homework. I'm gonna see. I'm gonna send you some clips, though. But listen, when a guy got it going like that, Ocho, you gonna either have to send another guy, because one just ain't enough, you know, you gonna have to send another guy to help and obviously, you know, try to get the ball out his hands, which I feel Cleveland probably should have tried that a time or two here earlier. So you gotta mix it up, bro. Like, if I.

[Uncle Ocho]

If.

[Joe]

Listen, if. If you keep coming out, running the same play and getting what you want, hell, we gonna. We.

[Uncle Ocho]

We.

[Joe]

It's like this. We're gonna keep milking that, run it

[Uncle Ocho]

again until they say.

[Joe]

Hell, until they show us something different. Till they stop it. Keep running it. They never sent a double team on the man. On the man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Everybody trapped. He got the ball out his hands. Nothing.

[Joe]

You got to mess it up, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You let the man play one on one the whole damn night. It's like a wide receiver. Oh, you. I tell you what, you know, everybody run their own coverage like that. We don't. We don't. We don't have. Let our number one DB travel now. You don't let the number one receiver, you don't let him catch his rhythm. I don't give a damn what DB you put on him. It's over for him. Yeah, once he get his rhythm, it's over.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, listen, and Kenny Atkinson, he gotta take some of this damn blame, too. Damn time out he had. Hell, he ain't call one, y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

We were just up 22.

[Uncle Ocho]

So he think he got 11 timeouts the next game? What he waiting for, the apocalypse, right? You think he got. Now he got extra four timeouts. No, bro, Ain't no way you let a team go on a run like that and you don't burn at least one time out. I've seen coaches burn two of them.

[Joe]

Listen, Ocho, when they were up 22. When that lead went down to 10, right.

[Guest Analyst]

Right away, 10.

[Uncle Ocho]

That thing, they go, hey, straight time out. Let me get that.

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[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, guys, let's talk this over.

[Joe]

I'm saying at least. Look, when they cut it to 10, I was like, damn, they still ain't calling no time out. By the time they call the time out, it was six, seven point game.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's what I'm saying. I'm calling a timeout. They score eight straight. I'm going, time out. Let me get a timeout. They score another eight straight. Yeah, I got another timeout. I got to do something. I'm trying to break the momentum. Even if there's not nothing strategically that I can do. I'm just trying to break the momentum.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

When a guy get hot on the dice, what you do, man? Let me grab. You grab the dice.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, man. Put the dice down, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, you'll get it. I'll give you the dice back.

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm paying you.

[Uncle Ocho]

You try to do everything you can to cool his ass off. Ain't no way in hell you just let a man just keep licking and keep licking and keep licking. Hell, no. Hey, man, hey, get the other dog, man. Give me them dice back, man. Nah, nah. These out of these, out of commission.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That's how you and Ocho gonna act when I hit y' all on the dice.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, Joe, you put. Hey, you hit me three. You hit me three points, especially out the dope. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, I'm. I'm out the door kind of cat, too, boy. Arkansas natural state. Yeah. You boys don't want to see this here. I'm telling you.

[Guest Analyst]

Yo, don't do that, Joe. Come on, Joe.

[Joe]

All right, all right.

[Uncle Ocho]

When I hit that image, when I hit that Emmy Smith on y'. All. Yeah. Back, though. Little joy,

[Joe]

huh? Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And that. That one. That old Vince Carter had one five for y'.

[Guest Analyst]

All.

[Uncle Ocho]

Look at that three.

[Guest Analyst]

Three.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I thought, too.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know. I get y'. All. I get y' all on 10 every time when I throw that being I throw that 10, I see 10. I see you boys. Hey, you boys at it. I'm telling you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I love flowers. Ah, in the springtime. I tell you what, look at them bluffs. Look at the fire. Look at them lost.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, I tell you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'll tell you what.

[Guest Analyst]

While y' all sitting there throwing that dice and y' all talking that trash back and forth, when you hear that whistle. Yeah, that whistle, huh?

[Joe]

You.

[Guest Analyst]

You don't. You don't know what I mean. We use the graphic.

[Joe]

You can't. You can't even whistle.

[Guest Analyst]

We used the graphic not too long ago. A few days ago. I'm coming to take. I'm coming to take that money from that dice game.

[Joe]

Now, hold on. But you can't even whistle.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come take that, buddy, for the day.

[Guest Analyst]

I can whistle, Joe. What you talking about? Joe, stop.

[Joe]

Let me hear you whistle. Let me hear it.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't heard. Y' all can't hear?

[Joe]

No, I'm new.

[Guest Analyst]

Hello?

[Uncle Ocho]

No, you're not muted.

[Joe]

That man can't whistle.

[Uncle Ocho]

He can't whistle. Look.

[Joe]

Hey, Chad, do y' all hear anything?

[Guest Analyst]

Y' all playing, man? Y' all can hear me whistle, man, Stop playing.

[Joe]

Oh, bro, you can't chat.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all hear anything?

[Guest Analyst]

Y' all hear me, man? Stop playing. Hey. Hey, Joe, you saw the wire. You know. You know when Omar coming. You know you hear that whistle.

[Joe]

They ain't you, though, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't do it. And you can't whistle either,

[Joe]

man. Don't nobody.

[Guest Analyst]

You hear that joke? Stop playing, man. Hey, sir, wrong with my mic.

[Joe]

It sound like you. You asking the chat for a kiss or something. I don't know what you got going on over there?

[Guest Analyst]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Guest Analyst]

Hey, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay, now go ahead. You go ojo. Man, that man ain't did nothing.

[Guest Analyst]

Y' all playing, man. Y' all hear me?

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[Guest Analyst]

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