Nightcap Hour 2: DeShaun Watson KNEW He was QB1 BEFORE Media + Anthony Richardson is COOKED + Bills NEW STADIUM Has OBSTRUCTED Views + Monta Ellis DOWNPLAYS Steph’s SUCCESS With Warriors + Shaq DOESN’T Rank LeBron AMONG Laker Greats + Kawhi Leonard WA...

Summary

Nightcap Hour 2 (August 10, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-Hosts: Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Burrow, Michael Irvin
Podcast Network: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker
Episode Topic Highlights:

• Deshaun Watson’s QB1 Status & Coaching Transparency
• Anthony Richardson’s Colts Exit & QB Development
• Buffalo Bills' New Stadium Controversy
• Monta Ellis’s Comments on Steph Curry’s Legacy
• Shaq’s Take on LeBron’s Lakers Status
• Kawhi Leonard’s Negotiation “Perks” Scandal

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Episode Theme & Overview

Nightcap delivers unfiltered, late-night takes on the biggest sports stories, with a focus on authenticity, behind-the-scenes perspective, and lively debate. In this episode, Shannon, Ocho, and Joe Burrow react to high-profile NFL and NBA headlines—from quarterback controversies to stadium flops, star ego, and league-defining player legacies.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Deshaun Watson "KNEW" He Was QB1 — Coaching Transparency in Cleveland

Segment Start: [02:22]

• Story Recap: Reporter Mary Kay Cabot revealed Deshaun Watson was privately named first-team QB prior to public statements, which claimed Shador Sanders would work with the "ones."
• Shannon Sharpe: Strongly criticizes the lack of straightforwardness:

  "Don't lie to your player... we just can't be honest. Just be honest." ([03:48])

• Michael Irvin: Suggests this decision likely came from upper management rather than Coach Todd Monken; acknowledges the business side dictates expensive QBs play, but calls for honesty.
• Joe Burrow: Emphasizes Watson’s big contract seals his role, even if preseason play is lackluster:

  "He can't lose his job in the preseason... he ain’t gonna play enough to look that bad." ([06:03])

• Personal Stories: All hosts relate with personal experiences when teams weren’t honest about role or value, lamenting lack of direct communication.

Memorable Quote

"As a competitor, I'm gonna feel some type of way, but... when my time comes, it's going to come. And when that opportunity presents itself, he gonna show the f out."
— Michael Irvin ([06:56])

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2. Anthony Richardson is "COOKED" — Quarterback Development in the NFL

Segment Start: [20:20]

• Report: Anthony Richardson (2023’s #4 overall pick) will be traded or released by Colts; labeled now as regressing and "checked out" after a trade request.
• Ochocinco: Counsels that a change of scenery might help, but lack of NFL patience with young QBs sets prospects up to fail.

  "You understood that he was a project coming out of college... and they just don’t have that patience in the NFL." ([21:15])

• Joe Burrow: Bluntly declares Richardson “cooked”:

  "He had all the physical tools... but if you can’t read coverages and your processing is a little slower—that’s detrimental, bro. They moving on from that." ([22:16])

• Sharpe: Adds that NFL teams "can’t tolerate" QBs with poor preparation/work habits, sharing how the old-school locker room was less forgiving.

  "The only thing I care about is—how fast can a quarterback process information? That’s what I want to know." ([29:15])

• All: Use anecdotes to hammer that being valuable and prepared trumps raw physical talent; strong work ethic and professionalism are non-negotiables for success.

Notable Quotes

"He was lazy then, he's lazy now... If this doesn't wake him up, ain't nothing gonna wake him up."
— Shannon Sharpe ([26:13])

"When you great... they gotta find a way to pick at you, bro. It’s just part of it."
— Joe Burrow ([65:24])

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3. Bills’ NEW Stadium Has OBSTRUCTED Views

Segment Start: [42:16]

• Social Media Uproar: Viral photos show fans in the new Highmark Stadium with severe sightline issues—some seats appear blocked by concrete barriers.
• Shannon: Lampoons the design:

  "I got to pay to own those seats and then I got to pay for the tickets, right? …That’s a brand new stadium. That’s some bull job." ([43:09])

• Irvin: Suggests the viral pics may be staged or exaggerated, but also expresses disbelief that a modern stadium would have such obvious flaws.
• Hosts: Take playful shots at Buffalo’s “table-slamming” fan culture but agree the Bills have a uniquely passionate and supportive fanbase.

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4. Monta Ellis DOWNPLAYS Steph’s Success with Warriors

Segment Start: [52:25]

• Monta’s Claim: Argues that swapping him for Steph Curry on the Warriors’ title teams would have resulted in the same success.
• Joe Burrow: Immediate dismissal:

  "Negative, huh?... You can’t swap that and say they gonna have the same success. I beg to differ... You’re downplaying Steph Curry’s greatness." ([52:47–53:16])

• Sharpe: Points out how Steph’s unique off-ball movement and gravity changed the game; Monta needed the ball to be effective, undercutting Warriors’ system.
• All: Praise Monta as a bucket-getter but stress Steph Curry is transcendent, not just generational—“historically great.”

Memorable Quotes

"Steph Curry is transcendent... historically great."
— Shannon Sharpe ([59:12])

"The only thing they got in common is complexion."
— Joe Burrow ([59:46])

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5. Shaq DOESN’T Rank LeBron Among Laker Greats

Segment Start: [63:11]

• Topic: Shaquille O’Neal claims LeBron “isn’t on the stage” with Lakers icons like Kareem, Magic, Kobe, or himself—because he only won one ring in LA.
• Sharpe: Pushes back, noting Shaq’s use of “ring counting” also ranks role players above LeBron, which doesn’t match reality:

  "Even the most die-hard Laker fan knows Kurt Rambis is not a better player than LeBron." ([63:37])

• Joe Burrow: Observes that such franchise-legacy discussions often lose nuance—fans can confuse “greatest Laker” (tenure) with “greatest player” (talent).
• Takeaway: Hosts find Shaq’s logic frustrating, but acknowledge Laker culture and history are unique. Note ring culture distorts player legacies:

  "We’ve turned it into that—if you ain’t got a ring, your career was a bum." ([68:53])

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6. Kawhi Leonard’s “Impermissible Perks” Scandal

Segment Start: [69:26]

• Report: Kawhi and his uncle allegedly requested, during 2019 free agency meetings, a team jet, free home, off-court earnings, and ownership stakes—far beyond what’s allowed under NBA rules.
• Shannon: Details how these extras violate the salary cap and undermine fairness.
• Joe Burrow & Ocho: Say they respect the hustle but warn if you get caught "you can't hide your hand":

  "I'm asking for every damn thing in my contract. If I’m hemothy, I’m him." — Joe Burrow ([71:41])

• All: Joke about negotiating tactics (“Let Uncle Dennis do all the talking”) but recognize this could lead to large repercussions for Kawhi and the Clippers.
• Sharpe: Wonders why the investigation didn’t surface until after a bankruptcy, implying deeper hidden dealings in owner-player relationships.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "You only one of two things, Ocho: you an asset or a liability. There are no other options."
  — Shannon Sharpe ([32:04])

• "This game will humble your ass. You can have a good game and think you got it figured out. The next game, somebody shut your ass completely out."
  — Shannon Sharpe ([37:09])

• Joking exchange (on fighting over a bag):

  "I'm from the whoop my heart... they gonna come bail me out."
  — Michael Irvin ([40:21]) "I'mma whoop his ass and take his bag."
  — Joe Burrow ([41:42])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:22] Deshaun Watson QB1 Timing Debate
• [20:20] Anthony Richardson Colts Fallout
• [42:16] Bills Stadium Obstructed-View Fiasco
• [52:25] Monta Ellis vs. Steph Curry Debate
• [63:11] Shaq & LeBron’s Place Among Laker Legends
• [69:26] Kawhi Leonard’s Contract Perks Scandal

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Tone & Style

• Candid and humorous, plenty of storytelling and real locker-room anecdotes.
• Hosts aren’t afraid to challenge each other or poke fun.
• Unfiltered, direct, often blending personal sports experience with sharp cultural critique.

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Conclusion

Nightcap’s second hour blended hard truths about leadership, accountability, ego, and the business of sports—anchored with big personalities and plenty of laughs. Whether dissecting the fate of a young QB, calling out stadium shortcomings, or debating if a star’s confidence matches his play, Sharpe and crew always deliver real talk—making this episode unmissable for die-hard sports fans.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

A source told Mary Kay Cabot that Deshaun Watson knew he would be first team quarterback on Saturday before Todd Monkin told the media that it was Shador Sanders day with the ones. As it turns out, Watson knew right after the walkthrough about noon that he was going with the ones on Saturday, which is about 45 minutes before Todd Monkin told the media that Sanders will still be day a day 10 QB one. Ocho, what's going on, man? What, what exactly is going on?

[Michael Irvin]

Hold on. Say that one more time. I, I just want to make sure I, I heard you correctly. Go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mary Kay Cabot said that deshaun Watson knew he would be first team quarterback on Saturday before Todd Monkin told the media that it was Shador Sanders day with the ones. As it turns out, Watson knew right after the walkthrough about noon that he was going with the ones on Saturday, which is about 45 minutes before monkey Monkey. Monkin told the media that Sanders was still day 10 QB1.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, I mean, well, I mean is it. Is. Is based on what was said, is there anything wrong with what I said and told you before on who would

[Shannon Sharpe]

be the starter in general? Why would he lie though? Okay, why would you say that it's going to be Shador's Day, Day 10 when you had already told DeShawn that he was going with the ones the entire for the entirety?

[Michael Irvin]

It's one thing, it's one thing that coaches will do when they get in front of the camera and, and they, and they spew whatever they want to spew and in public it's always going to be different behind closed doors.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't lie, don't lie to your player. Oo, just you got, you got. I thought you said you were dealing with men. And men, you deal with them straight up. You say, look here, Shador, there's been a change of plans. I know you're supposed to get the reps with the ones on day 10, but we've as an organization, as a staff, we think that Deshawn, we're going to let DeShawn take all the ones, tuck all the reps with the ones and you'll have a day where you take all the reps with the ones. Just, just don't lie to the man because the man got expectations. I'm sure he told his dad. Hey, hey, pops. Called time, Pops. Hey, Pops, you know it's my day to run with the ones. He probably told him, say, son, hey, hey, you've been here, you prepared for this moment your whole life. Just go do what you should go do what your door does. That's all you got to do. I don't know why in situations like this, we just can't be honest. Just be honest.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's unfortunate. I, I'm assuming this is, this is something. I think, I think that that call might, might have come above Todd Monkin's head as far as wanting to see Deshaun take those, take those reps. In general, the coach's plan probably was to have Shador take it, take the, the. The ten day with the ones. But I think that call came from upstairs being that desean Watson is probably going to be the starter. We want him to get more reps with the ones because you know who we gonna see in the preseason, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Shador. Shador.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, Shador. And he's. When Shador gets in the preseason, he's gonna look good. I guarantee you that he gonna look good because he's taking enough reps with the ones to date and going to pick up right where he left off last year. And all the improvements that Todd Mon can say that he's seen so far from Jador is going to show in the first preseason game, which I'm assuming is what, four or five days from now. So I'm. Listen, I'm excited for both of them. I'm excited for both of them. And again, it's Deshaun Watson job to lose at this point. At this point, it's his job to lose because they're going to play the $46 million quarterback. He's not going to be sitting on the bench. As much as I myself would like Shador to start and everyone else that enjoys watching him play because of the excitement and the unpredictability that he bring to the game, Deshawn and playing based on business side of things, money ain oo.

[Joe Burrow]

Can DeShawn lose his job in the preseason?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he can't.

[Joe Burrow]

Even if he go out there and he don't look. And he don't look great, he ain't gonna look good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cuz he ain't gonna play enough to look that bad.

[Michael Irvin]

No,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just, I just. All I'm saying, Todd Stefanski. I mean, my bad. I mean, Todd Mon, just be honest. Ocho, if you, if your day come out there, say, ocho, we gonna give you runs. We're gonna give you some. One run with the ones.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the first group, when the ones go out there, I want you to go out there. Now they done told. They don't told the other dude, hey, you running with the ones now you go run out the field, you get ready to run out there with the ones I want your Ocho coming to. Come back, come back, come back. You're gonna feel some type of way. Yeah, you told me I'm going with the ones and I'm running out there. You got me looking stupid.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. As a competitor, I'm gonna feel some type of way As a competitor, I'm gonna feel some type of way, but also understanding what's going on, you know, understanding what's going on the business side of things. Understanding that part. Okay. When my time come, when my opportunities come, I'm gonna make the most of them. I'm not gonna argue, I'm not gonna gripe. I'm gonna be professional about it. They made a decision. You know what? I can't fight the decision. That's what they want to do. So be it. Shador Sanders has dealt with so much adversity to date. This is nothing for him that he can't handle. When his time comes, it's going to come. And when that opportunity presents itself, he gonna show the f out. I can guarantee you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Desean might have shown that he's the better of the quarterbacks, based on the history. Yes. Desean was the better the quarterback, even though he hasn't shown it over the last three years. I'm not. That's not what I'm. That's not what, what, what? Ocho and I. And I think Ocho and I. And we're gonna let Joe chime in here with a second. That's not what I'm saying. When you dealing with a man, just be honest.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all I'm saying. If DeSean is better, DeSean is better. But if DeShawn is better, can't you just go ahead and tell the man, hey, they're gonna change your plans. I know you were supposed to take the ones go with the ones today because it's supposed to be your day, but as a staff, we felt. We feel this is the best for us. Move right now. Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, man, Deshaun gonna get that job, bro. I mean, we've already talked about it as far as the money that he's making, and I'm like. I'm like, y', all, man monking,

[Shannon Sharpe]

you

[Joe Burrow]

want to say he. You want to say he. Him being honest, Uncle Ocho, but come on, man. They gonna make you earn it, bro. They gonna make that young man earn it, and I promise you, it's gonna make him a stronger player, a better player, but who knows how Long. It's gonna last. I just don't understand it to some degree. I do. I mean, the money that. That desean makes is probably. Is what got him over the top. But I'm not sure if he's a better quarterback than Shadow at this point.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, I tell you one thing. The decision that was made, I don't even think it's coming from Todd Monkin. It's above his pay grade. I agree it's above his pay grade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, Jimmy and D ain't gonna do that. Joe Barry. I think Joe. I forget the guy's name. The general manager. But anyway, you know, they're not gonna have. That is Andrew.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, he's not gonna. The head coach. Because the head coach and the quarterback supposed to be linked.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So whatever. Whatever is being discussed upstairs. The head coach is supposed to. Now, you don't have to tell them. You don't have to tell the player everything that's being said. You put it in coaches speak. Yes. To keep every. Because at the end of the day, just. Hey, just dislike me. I don't want you disliking the gm, disliking the owner and everything else. I. I'll be the bad guy. And that's. That's why the coaches make with it. Nico Harrison.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see? Yeah. Nico. That came from up top.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nico lost his job. He took all the blowback. People just crapped on him. He had to take it all. That's what you have to do when you're in those positions. That being said, just be honest with me. I'll give you a prime example, guys. The only time I started 31 out of a possible 32 games. I don't know why Brian said, you know, he came to me on Wednesday, he said, shannon, we gonna start Todd this week. So Todd gonna go with the ones. Okay, fine. I ain't got no problem with that.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The game get close in the fourth quarter. Ace, you out there? Whoa, whoa, whoa. You won't be out there. I thought. Just be honest with me.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We grown here. We grown. Y' all go check it out. Look at the only game I didn't start with the Bengals my last year there, 2001. It's okay. Just be honest. Just be honest with me. But. But you know what happens. People would rather say I'm sorry than ask for permission. It is easier. It's easier to say I'm sorry than ask for permission.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody will do something to you. Said, man, well, I ain't. I'm Sorry. You could have easily asked, but you didn't want to run the risk of me telling you no. Hell no. F. No. So what you did, you went ahead and did it anyway and then apologize for it?

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, I'm not debating. That's not. All I'm talking about is the chain of command and how it was handled. We'll deal with that another day. This is about the communication or the lack thereof between Todd Monkin and Shador Sanders. That's all this is about. We'll have another conversation another day. How well should. How well DeSean played or how well he didn't play. How well should do or played or how well he didn't play. My only issue is it could have been handled better. That's. That's it for me, Ocho. That's it. Yeah, Joe, maybe you got something to add on to it. I don't know how you feel. I don't know if you've ever been in a situation like this, Ocho, I don't know if you've ever been in a situation like this, but I'm just saying I believe. It is my belief based on my history and dealing with people, especially, you know, playing in the NFL. Joe, you're an NBA player for 17, 18 years old. You. You played over a decade. I played over a decade now. I run a business. I have it. I just. I just believe there's a way that you can handle stuff. I just do it.

[Michael Irvin]

It is, in matter of fact, you know, for me, I wish Joe and un. But for me, I wish Marvin would have. Would have told me instead of trading me in general. I wish knowing that they were going to draft AJ Green once I was gone, I wish they would have made me a number two. I wish they would have came to me. Listen, I. I had. I would have had no problem. I didn't put a whole decade in. I would have no problem. Let me go be the number two. Hell, let me even be the number three. I wouldn't have had no problem with that. I would have been.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, and I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know why they didn't let you do that either, Ocho, because you had shown you could be that with to came there.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Yeah. I wish they. I wish they would have. And I wonder what that would have looked like. Still being familiar with the system, being at home, still being comfortable, you know, and obviously going from Carson Palmer to Andy Dalton. It wouldn't. It wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been no different. I Would have been just fine. I would have had no problem taking the back seat to A.J. green coming in. You know, as and, and him being the man and giving him the torch. Boss man is your go. I got maybe, maybe two, maybe three years to go before I'm up out of here. I have no problem taking the back seat and let you take over. I wish, I wish things would have went that way, but I, I just, I, I, I don't, I don't think they felt or understood that I was willing to take a back seat to someone else.

[Joe Burrow]

New coming in, man, listen, my rookie year, uncle oo, I wish, you know, they would have told me straight up, look, we, we gonna try and trade you. You created some value for yourself. I'm saying. Cuz, think about it, Uncle Ocho. I'm saying I went from starting, okay? I didn't start the first game. And then Eric Williams gets hurt. And then I start from this game two. All the way up until they came to me and was like, hey, look, we got two other rookies. We gonna sit you and we're gonna get these other dudes an opportunity. But the real thing is they set me because I had created value for myself and they was gonna use me as trade bait. And they was finding us, they was finding a trade suitor. So therefore, you know, I didn't realize all that until, hell, I was out five years down the line. Cause as, as a young player, when you get traded, you, you don't understand why sometimes, you know what I mean? Because it wasn't like I was playing bad. It wasn't like we was a bad team. We were the number two team in the eastern conference, the Boston Celtics at that time. So to sit me and tell me, and I just sit there for 10, 15 straight games to get DNPs and don't play. And you know, that bothers a young kid. I'm 20 years old, bro.

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[Joe Burrow]

You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then end up tight, knees hurting,

[Joe Burrow]

and then you just come to me and tell me that you going to get these other dudes an opportunity. You just going to sit me. It ain't like I've been playing bad. I'm balling uncle oo, right? So this is why I'm telling you, you know? No, hell no. They w straight up with me. I had some value, okay? Boom. Now we in the driver seat as far as the celtics with the number two seed, with Paul Pierce, Antoine Walker. We hadn't been there since we got them. We hadn't been a playoff team. So we can use this little asset that we have and trade him off to bring other veteran guys in. That's typically, that's kind of what happened. So if, if, if it's one incident, it will be my rookie year, bro. Cause I was so puzzled after I got traded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's tough. And like you said, all you wish they had to come to you and tell you, Joe, you got some value. And we gonna look, we look, we gonna. They could have did it like this here. So you know what, Joe? You need to be accountable on your own team. You need to get more minutes than what you're getting. You need to get more shots than what you're getting. So with that being said, we're gonna look to move you at some point in time. They could dress it up, make it sound. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

They could have put that battery in my back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, just like when the girl want to break up with you. What they tell you? It ain't you, it's me. I eat that. I will eat. I will eat that one. I will take that. Hey. Lie to me. Make it sound fly to me.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello? Hello? Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's all good. Yeah, please, please do so. But no, that's. That's the only thing. Chat and, and we're not gonna. I don't want to beat this anymore. I just believe that, that, that Todd Stefanski, I mean, Todd Monkin could have handled this better than what he handled it. Yeah. On August 21st. What's your plan? I want vengeance. No one does action movies. You got a problem on the ship like Jason Statham, well, you'll need all the help. Rated R. August 21st. When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead. Time trips come together fast for production shoots, brand appearances, or filming. And I've got to be ready to go. That's where Amazon prime can make the difference. When something comes up, you can get what you need. Like carry on chargers, noise canceling headphones, so you're ready to show up for it. With same day delivery, those essentials can show up in time to still make it happen so you can focus on the opportunity. That's what I like about Prime. It makes it easy to say yes when the moment shows up. Same day delivery, it's on Prime. Available in select areas. Terms apply. Visit Amazon.comprime to find millions of items delivered fast.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Anthony Richardson has likely played his last game snap as a member of the Colts. Per Ian Rappaport, Richardson will either be traded or released before the season begins. The Colts have not demoted Richardson to third string quarterback and Indianapolis ruth Riley Leonard as their long term QB2 over the former number four overall pick. Richardson has mightily regressed and appears to be completely checked out after requesting an offseason trade. Oo it, Aunt Cook.

[Michael Irvin]

I, I, I, I think he's in a situation where maybe a change of scenery will be better for him.

[Joe Burrow]

Man. Keep it real, bro.

[Michael Irvin]

Honestly. Hey, hey, Joe. A change of scenery might, might be better for him. The opportunity of maybe being the starting quarterback, it might have pass him by. Being that most of the teams, if you think about it, they're one and two is kind of set. I think not only a Cheney senior, but going to the right team is also important. A team that has a great head coach, a team that has a great veteran presence at the quarterback position that can help him grow. And he can, I'm assuming, maybe hope to have another opportunity to start again in the NFL. But the way this business works with him being such a high pick, it's not likely. But you never know what may happen. You may never know. But it kind of sucks for him in general being that he was a project coming out of college. You understood that he was a project coming out of college. And he's someone that you needed patience with to have in order for him to grow. You needed patience. And they just don't have that in NFL. The development of quarterbacks, as said by Tom Brady, throwing them out there as rookies is hurting them more than it is making them better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

He cooked. He cooked. Ocho ain't gonna say, you know, he gonna sweeten it up.

[Michael Irvin]

I'm just being honest.

[Joe Burrow]

I'm saying because he had, he coming out of college, Uncle Ocho, he lacked, he lacked experience.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes.

[Joe Burrow]

And he had all the physical tools and traits to be a hell of a qb. That's why he went, that's why he was a fourth pick overall. But at the same time, when you, when you get out there, man, you can't read coverages and your processing is a little slower as a quarterback. That's detrimental, bro. Detrimental. They not gonna, they ain't wasting too much time. They gonna move on. He had, he had a few opportunities, bro. They moving on from that.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, when this came up.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We and I talked about it. I said, he ain't gonna be the same in that locker room.

[Michael Irvin]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When he took himself out of the game, he talked about he was tired.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was being the last one in and the first one out as a quarterback. Yes. Now, I said, this is what I said, Joe. I said, okay, he's a pro. He's a project. You can't say, okay, Shannon, I'm gonna give you a. I'm gonna give you two years to complete this house and then try to move in the house in a week. Right. The house ain't ready. He wasn't ready to play.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

And they put him out there. You said he was a project. You were going to develop him. Andy Reid saw Patrick Mahomes for a year.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't help his cause, bro. The NFL is not like college. See, at college, bro. He just didn't pick this up when he came to the league. Now.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The habits you have in college.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you got when you come to the NFL.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. That's a pattern.

[Joe Burrow]

Absolutely.

[Michael Irvin]

That's a pattern.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. And people jumped on me. Oh, you don't know what it's like in the locker room. I've been around enough locker rooms to do. I absolutely know what it's like.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I know that the locker room is a little less. Is a little more forgiving now than it was when you and I played, Ocho. But that's the problem. Because these guys won't hold these other guys accountable.

[Joe Burrow]

That's why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why you have situations like we have. That's a. I couldn't tolerate that. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

One more thing, too, Uncle Joe. And chat. Y', all. Y. Y', all, check me out real quick. There's certain quarterbacks that come out of college that are NFL ready. You know they. NFL ready. Anthony Richardson passed the eye test with all the physical tools. He passed the eye test, but he didn't have what it took to play in the NFL right away. Joe Burrow had what it took to play right away.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

Josh Allen, he had what it took to play right away. Adam Matters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Josh didn't start right away. He sat a couple of games. Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

I'm just saying he had to say. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. I get what you say.

[Michael Irvin]

Okay.

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Okay.

[Michael Irvin]

What it took to play right away. But he still sat here. I like what they're doing with Fernando Mendoza over there. He needs to sit. As great as he is, as good as he is as a senior college season that he did have him sitting behind Kirk Cousins is a great thing for his development and being able to understand and learn the game and come along slow. Throwing Anthony Richardson out there, it was a disservice to him in his development as a quarterback. And now we're seeing.

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I mean, it's.

[Michael Irvin]

It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate to him. And we knew his demise was coming when it decided to bring Daniel Jones in and pick on that one year, 14 million. Yeah, it was a rap. Yeah, it was a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At that point I knew they talk about, oh, he, he had Michael Pittman Jr. AD Mitchell, Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, Jonathan Taylor. What other quarterback in the NFL wouldn't kill for that talent?

[Michael Irvin]

They was loaded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only other quarterback that had the physical tools and looked like he did and tested like he did was Cam Newton.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you see how what Cam turned out to be. But Cam was serious about his business.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bro, but if you go back and study, he didn't complete 50. He barely completed 50 of his passes in high school. He completed 50 or less in college. But now somehow you expect him to come to the league and complete 60 of his passes.

[Joe Burrow]

That's processing, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was lazy then, he's lazy now. Now maybe like you said, Ocho, going somewhere else after you've been released, you're the fourth pick in the draft. Most fourth picks in the draft, they don't got. They got them a new deal.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. By now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or they're working on a new or they're working on a new deal. You're working on a new team.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, that's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If this doesn't wake him up, ain't nothing gonna wake him up.

[Michael Irvin]

Y', all, you think, hey, Joe, if anything, if anything, that's more of a wake up call as opposed to listen, that little adversity, it could either break you or it can make you, it could change you. So it all, it all depends on him. This is a huge wake up call to go from the fourth pick to now down the third string and, and you know, obviously requesting a trade in the offseason, not getting it. Allowing you to come to campus, see if you can compete and see where you are and how much you progressed and, and they said you regressed.

[Joe Burrow]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, Joe, if I know you got to get rid of something, why am I going to offer you anything for it? I'll just wait till you cut him. And would take my chances in, in the, what you call them in the line.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see if he can see if he can pass, right? I'm not going to give you anything. Maybe somebody give him a six or seventh round, a seventh round pick that if he plays he can give six round picks. But I know you want to get rid of it. Yeah, the moment I know you want to get rid of something, the less likely I am to want to give you something of value for it.

[Michael Irvin]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to get rid of it. It's like your trash. Once you throw it out, you said it's not valuable. Whatever. I go through there and find mine to keep. So once you put him out there and I can re. I can rehabilitate him, get him to understand what he needs to do, how he needs to be more professional. Okay, but I'm not giving you anything for that, right? I. I just don't. I just don't know why. Oh, Ocho. And you remember he said the NFL was easier than college chat? Y' all remember he said that?

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, he. He mean that. He mean that. He mean.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, hold on, Wait a minute. Oh, I look at o said, ocho, the NFL that we played in is easy. That is what needs it for me. I know it ain't easy for no damn quarterbacks because all this stuff that you have to know in the process and worry about getting your. Your cap split.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, that's why they say 90 of the game is mental, bro, and 10 is physical.

[Michael Irvin]

It is.

[Joe Burrow]

You know what I mean? You can have this big, physical, strong body and look good, but, man, if you can't process information fast enough, it's just like the point guard. It's the most valuable position on the basketball court. Same with the quarterback, man, if they can't process that information fast enough, uncle Oo, we always gonna be a step slow or.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or it ain't gonna tick.

[Joe Burrow]

Right? You feel what I'm saying? So I get it, man. Hey, hey, Anthony Richardson got them traits, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he. Who? Who? Who? The most athletic quarterback in the hall of Fame. Who. The most athletic quarterback to win a Super Bowl.

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Who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The fastest quarterback in the hall of Fame. Don't nobody give a damn. You see what happens? That got him in trouble. The last thing I care about is how fast a quarterback can run.

[Joe Burrow]

How.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's his vertical, Ocho? What's his standing long jump? What's his three cone, the short? I don't give a damn about anything. Yeah, I just want to know how. How fast he can process information. That's what I want to know. How well can he retain information? Those are the two things that I want to know. Any. Anything else, can you process it? Can you retain it? You give me somebody that can process information and retain information, and I'll beat your ass with these quarterbacks. That 6 foot 4, 240 pounds, running 43, jumping out the gym, throwing the ball 80 yards on one knee. When you going to be on one knee and throw the ball right?

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, what? Hey, what's Young Bull, the backup. The backup in Dallas. That. Or is it. Is it Seattle?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe Milton? Hey, boy, you talk about Joe Milton?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, he got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got a cannon, boy.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, you got a cannon, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I just. I don't get. Ocho, do you know, as the fourth pick in the draft, if you do anything, the money that you would have, they was gonna be willing to give you.

[Michael Irvin]

Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, this 300 million?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

$300 million.

[Michael Irvin]

No questions asked. Joe, just back up. Back up to bring Truck.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay. Ocho, I'd have been so locked in, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What.

[Joe Burrow]

Ain't no way.

[Michael Irvin]

It's unfortunate. I hope you get a second chance. Maybe not to be a starter, but it goes somewhere and revitalize his career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It might be, you know, a situation where, you know what? I might not just be good enough. And I have to live with that. But I'll be damn if it would be from lack of preparation.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I be damn if that's going to be the reason why I'm not in the league or I'm on another team. I used to tell guys all the time, all you got to do is that when you come in here in July, from July to January, devote everything you possibly can. And then once the season over with, if you want to go to the Bahamas, you want to go to Jamaica, you want to do whatever, that's your opportunity. But y' all do know NFL not for long. It's even short, shorter when you do bull job. Like what y' all doing.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And all y' all talk about, the man don't like me. The man don't like your habits. You come in here smelling like a liquor steel. Can't nobody tell you nothing. You know everything the man tell you. He wants you to run the route like this here. You want to run it how you want to run it.

[Michael Irvin]

The funny thing about it, it's not even hard when you. When you think about it, Uncle Joe, Chat. I mean, I just. I just narrow it down to two things. How long can I be a valuable asset to my team? That's it. That's all the kind of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You only wanted two things, Ocho. You, an asset or a liability. There are no other options.

[Michael Irvin]

That's it. That's all it come down to. How valuable can I be to my team at my respective position? How consistent can I be at my respective position and make the people job around me easy? My one job, Joe, you know, when I played, despite the entertainment and all the fun I had, boy, I was a. I was A sponge for knowledge and understanding of what I'm facing each and every week.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

For me to be able to talk and have fun. Dude, I was a student of the game, Joe. I was a student. I studied. I knew coverages. I knew what people were trying to do. I understood the sky. This I know before the ball snapped. I know where every single person was going to be. That's why I was able to talk like that, because I know what's coming. Before it even happened. I was a student of the game and then I had fun on the back end. But nobody talks about that part.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't have fun if you don't hear you doing that. Ain't no fun.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, it was fun. But hey, it's all about being valuable, all about being an asset. And, and that that comes and that, that's pertaining not just to football, but just in life in general. Life in general, when it comes to having partners and relationships. And I mean, listen, we. We not 14, 15 years old. We like, how are you an asset to me? What value are you bringing to the table? You know, I mean, this is a partnership.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

In anything that you're building, you got to be an asset. Not just look good. You looking good ain't bringing oohs and odds from people outside. I mean, what is that doing for me? Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The NFL is a business. The NFL, they accumulate assets. They get rid of liabilities.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Liabilities cost you businesses. Liabilities cost coaches jobs. Richard Smith told Ace, as they used to tell us all the time, he said, son, you good enough to get you cut and be fired.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, and that's true too now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. That's what liabilities do. Liabilities to get you cut yourself cut and the coach fired.

[Michael Irvin]

Players get coaches fired all the time, bro.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, look, that's why as a coach, man, you can't really develop them type of relationship with players because sometimes,

[Shannon Sharpe]

man, it can hinder you.

[Joe Burrow]

You know what I mean? Like that, that respect that a player gives a coach. You always want to keep that in check. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

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[Joe Burrow]

You are going to keep that locked in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It clouds your judgment. People get mad at Coach Belichick. Cause Coach Belichick treated everybody the same. That's why. That's why higher ups not supposed to deal with subordinates. What did they. What did they produce? Husband. He wanted her so bad. What did he do, Ojo? He sent that man to war, sent that man to battle so he could have him.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why subordinates are not supposed to deal with higher ups. Higher ups. Not supposed to deal with subordinates. It clouds your judgment. Man. That's my little boot.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

My boo. I can't put my boo out there to go.

[Joe Burrow]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She signed up to go fight. Yes. You gotta let her go.

[Joe Burrow]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how it works. You get. If a coach get too close to a player, it clouds his judgment when he has to make tough decisions, be it bench him, trade him, or release him.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep. Yep.

[Michael Irvin]

They act like it. They. They act like you're fighting, but this

[Shannon Sharpe]

the part of my job that I hate, you know? You took the damn job. This was a part of it. Yeah, I understand. Look, I understand. I go. I try to go in, especially when I'm dealing with things of this nature, with understanding. This is a business. At the end of the day, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you got a business, and you want to hire your friends. Okay, I might give you opportunity, but can you do the job that I'm hiring you for?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not hiring my friend to handle my finances because that. They don't have a financial background.

[Michael Irvin]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you want to do some security? You want to just come around and hang? Hey, tell some jokes? Okay. That's what you. That's what you're good at. But it's not easy. It's not. And I understand people's livelihoods sometimes are tied to this, but my livelihood is tied to it, too. Hell, what the hell you costing me? Money not doing your job.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, It all works like an engine in the car. If all the per. If all the parts ain't working the right way, your ass ain't going nowhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's.

[Joe Burrow]

That's the thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just hate it for the young man because I. I don't know if he took it as serious as he needed to. I don't know if he understood what the NFL was. You could have. This game will humble your ass. You can have a good game and think you got it figured out. The next game, somebody shut your ass completely out.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, hey. You said something interesting. You don't know if he took it as serious as he needed to or should have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Amen.

[Joe Burrow]

I don't know how old the young man is. 22, 23. But, man, when I look back then, boy, I thought I was working hard. Your ass ain't working hard, man. No, I'm telling you, I thought I was Uncle Ocho. But, you know, as you get up in age, you start to look back like, damn, if I'D have went a little harder, you know what I mean? So, yes, I totally understand that, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, think about this. Your rookie year, they pull you in and they say, joe, you need to work harder, Ocho. You need to work harder, Ocho. You need to be stopped being the first one in and the last one in and the first one to leave, bro. We can't have you leaving the ball game. Imagine you as a rookie and your veteran players call you in and they talk to you one on one.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you ain't doing that. Should have got his attention. It should have had his undivided attention.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The coach should have had a conversation, say, son, I want to be crystal clear. I want to be abundantly clear. You can't even get clear. Abundantly in crystal, Son. This ain't. This, this, this is not going to cut it. Your behavior, your preparedness, your readiness is unacceptable at that position.

[Joe Burrow]

No, sir,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just, I, like I said, I, I just think it's a different time now. Chat is just a different time. It's just a different time. And, and I need to accept that. That's why I couldn't, coach. I can't, I can't. I cannot, I cannot, I cannot accept, I cannot accept this behavior that today's society that is part of what. It's a different time. People don't want to work and then they get mad at results they didn't get for the work they didn't put in. Man, man, Coach, man, Coach messed on me. He didn't, he didn't like me. No, he didn't like your work ethic. He didn't like your practice habit. He didn't like how you were prepared when you, your turn to be called, when your time was called. He didn't like that you was unprepared. You unprofessional. That just, that just, that just rubs me the wrong way. It bothers me. It always has. It always will. I'mma work the same whether you pay me a dollar. I worked, I worked just as hard when I made $6 a day and when I made 5 million a year. I work the same. Work ethic doesn't change because you make more or less. It doesn't.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me take that back. It shouldn't, But everybody isn't wired like that and I have to accept that. But I just hope I, I, I love the fact that, that people that work with Shay Shay media, they put the time and they work. They want to be great. They want us to be great.

[Michael Irvin]

Thank You. Thank you, Uncle. You're welcome. Thank you. Hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Hey, y', all, y', all, Y' all gonna have to bail me out, man.

[Joe Burrow]

For what?

[Michael Irvin]

Nothing. Got my homeboy, man, my homeboy watching real quick, man. And, like, when I see him, like, it's on site, Joe. So, like, Joe, you really off the hook right now. So these hands is, Is they, they, they, they, they for him and Los, you know, I, I, I know you watching. And, and, and you finna get these hands and, and uncle and Joe, they gonna come bail me out. So, you know, get your paperwork ready, because I know you probably gonna, you know, you know, try to try to go see the people on me and whatnot, and we can fight it in court after I whoop you outside, man.

[Joe Burrow]

What are you talking about?

[Michael Irvin]

I'm just. Nah, not Joe. I'm from the whoop my heart.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah, clear that up. Yeah, clear that up real quick. I'm glad you cleared that up real quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, Joe, listen, I can make it a two for one. I could whoop Los.

[Joe Burrow]

And you, I mean, don't keep it 100. You wasn't talking about me. Just keep it 100 the same.

[Michael Irvin]

I said I wasn't talking about you in the first place. I said, uncle Joe, come bail me out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, yeah, yeah, we got you.

[Michael Irvin]

But I'm just saying we can make a two for one, Joe. I can whoop your ass first.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, I come bail you out, then whoop your ass. If that's how you want it, partner. It don't make me no different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For real, you have to turn around and bail him out. Huh? You have to bail you out. Hey, hey, hey. I better hold off on this bag. Cause if OO see you with his bag, he say that's the bag you got from up. And he might take it from you, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Matter of fact, I'mma whoop his ass and take his bag.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, I tell you what, Joe. Hey, hey, I already called dibs on the bag. If Joe end up with that bag in any way, boy, I break in your house and take it. I'm, I'm and I'm. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the jam, Joe.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, I'll break your house, and I take it.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, hey, Tell them to get your habituary ready. They get your habitual wear ready.

[Michael Irvin]

What, Joe? What, you trying to put me six feet?

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you break in my house, you got to go. You got to go, man.

[Michael Irvin]

Where my pistol at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, a bill's fan went viral for post showing awful obstructed seats at the new High Mark stadium. Look at this. Oh, look at this one. Can you see this?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, I can see it a little bit. They don't like the seats have to

[Shannon Sharpe]

be part of the view. You can't see the other end. Look at that.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, most of the time, if it's constructed like that, they have an enormous jumbotron. When the. When it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it ain't no jumbotron.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, it ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Jumbotron is normally high above. So you know what? A nobody view. That's a wall. That's a concrete barrier that's blocking view.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Matter of fact, in those seats too, Uncle Joe, those seats, I'm assuming those tickets will be very, very, very inexpensive to be able to sit high up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize that's a psl. I play.

[Joe Burrow]

I got to pay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got to pay the own those seats and then I got to pay for the tickets, right?

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, this is a new. This ain't no new stadium.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a brand new stadium. They just built it. They go into it this year.

[Joe Burrow]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know who designed this, but that's some bull job.

[Michael Irvin]

They probably. They probably want thinking, right? You got. You gotta look at the blueprint, man. I understand that, man,

[Shannon Sharpe]

bro. I mean, so how. So how do people that sit right there, Ocho, how do you supposed to see the other half of the field and then the other. The other one is even worse than that.

[Michael Irvin]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look how much of the field is blocked.

[Michael Irvin]

Hold on. And. And hey, uncle, we got to be careful. We got to be careful too, with this. With this actual picture. I would need to be at the stadium to make sure this ain't. This ain't being exaggerated. And that's not really a seat. I. I'm just saying that that looked pretty high up and don't look like in those seats right there. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. But the stadium.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But listen, that one on the left, that one right over here. Ocho, you don't see them seats backed up to that wall? What the hell you looking at? Put. Put the hand over the good eye. Maybe you see better at the bad eye.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, you see. You see the. You see the railing?

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

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Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

It wouldn't be no. Ain't that stairs right there? Somebody's standing with the stairs at. The seats go all the way up and you sit. You got to sit down. They. It looked like they standing on the stairway and taking a picture purposely to make it look like you can't see that. That just me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you looking at this one?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, I'm looking at the one right there. On, on the screen. It looked like they see that. I guarantee you. I guarantee you I'm right. And. And somebody. I think they did that on purpose to make it seem like you can't see, but I guarantee you that's a stairway to walk up and go further out either go to concession stand into the bathroom. That's not exactly what the seats are in 20, 26. There's no way a brand new stadium has a view like that. Blocking from one end where you can't see when the team is on the opposite side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, if somebody else. If somebody else gives them. But it looked like I could see some seats right there.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we. We go. We go see.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, other than that, look like it's a pretty nice stadium.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta go check out the Rich stadium. Go ahead. What'd you say, Ocho?

[Michael Irvin]

I said I want to go. I'm gonna go check it out. I'm gonna go. Hey, hold on, let me see. We all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't go out there. If they slam your ass on the table and suplex you on the table,

[Michael Irvin]

hey, that'll be fun. Hey, that'd be fun. We should go do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, ain't no we you.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, Joe, you want to go to the Buffalo game, Joe and like.

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[Michael Irvin]

And jump off the table, Jump off the thing like wrestling.

[Joe Burrow]

N I go to the game, but I ain't doing no damn jumping off no on them tables.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They be setting the tables on fire, Joe and B.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, hey, I'm doing that. Hey, Buffalo fans. Hey, I'm going to come to a game, I want to jump on the. Jump on the table with the fire and stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One thing.

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[Michael Irvin]

That'd be fun, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they support a charity, your charity. Something wrong, you get injured. Hey, man, that's one thing about the bill fans they show up for.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, hey, Joe, them Bills fans, that might be the best fan base they got some great in all those sports.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think what.

[Michael Irvin]

When it comes to not only supporting their players, but supporting other team players when something has happened or there's a charity going on, they all come together as one and don't. Oh, man. Hey, Buffalo sits the top.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They sit somebody. Who's that? They. Somebody had beat somebody and it knocked them out of the playoffs and Buffalo was able to get in. They sent the quarterback like 4, $500,000 to his favorite charity.

[Joe Burrow]

Damn.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, they don't play. Hey, Buffalo fans. They've always been pure class, though. They've always been pure class. They had. They might have a lot a lot of fun in that tailgating, but they've always been class.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Cadell know that's one thing because they. They go to a lot of the games. They still. As a matter of fact, they still live in Buffalo. So. But no, you know what, Ocho?

[Michael Irvin]

What's happening?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm looking and see. I don't know.

[Michael Irvin]

I. I guarantee you, I guarantee you somebody posted it on purpose standing on the stairs where that railing is just to make it seem like you can't see. I guarantee you I'm right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it, Ocho.

[Joe Burrow]

We'll see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, guess what? Somebody we'll find. We're gonna find out in the next episode. The next couple of days somebody gonna go, go and hold on the preseason start like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So we're gonna find out as soon

[Michael Irvin]

as they play preseason start this Wednesday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it already. You know they had a Hall of Fame game last night.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, I know that one. I'm talking about everybody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody else starts playing. Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

Finally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not Thursday. They start Thursday. Thursday.

[Michael Irvin]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Either way. Either way, I'm ready. I'm ready. Hey, Joe. When them Cowboys play? Joe?

[Joe Burrow]

I gotta check. As far as preseason, we pro, we Normally start off on the west coast because, you know, we typically be out there in San Diego somewhere. You know, we lay there, La, la.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all in Oxnard. Where we at? Oxnard.

[Joe Burrow]

Where is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oxnard, California North. It's up. It's about, you know, probably about an hour outside.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, they typically. That's typically where they start at the. Where we started. We started out. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Joe, I would know what you think about this one. Monte Ella says Warriors would have had the same success if he had replaced Steph Curry on their championship teams. If you switch me and Steph out with the team that won the championship, it'd be the same thing.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, and I'm gonna use the bathroom on that one. Joe. Joe know that one better than me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Negative. Negative, huh? Hey, Monte Ellis was a hell of a player. You talking about as far as a bucket getter, he could do that with the best. But to replace him and Steph, the role that Steph played. No, sir. No, sir. You can't swap that and say they gonna have the same success. I beg to differ on that. I think. I think you. You actually downplaying Steph Curry's greatness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, absolutely is.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're downplaying his greatness and. And how great he was in those championship runs, bro. He was virtually unstoppable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You would need to. If this man was a top 75 player, maybe I was like, okay, well, maybe. But how you gonna replace a guy, a top 75 guy? By all estimation, he's the first or second greatest point guard. I don't really look at him as a part point guard, but I'm saying, is he a Magic Johnson? That's in the conversation. With that being said, really? All the years, I don't believe. Because let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. I don't think so. Because he needs the ball.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you look at the way. The success that Steph had and KD had when they played together, neither one of those guys needed the ball.

[Joe Burrow]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. I just don't know why. Guy, it's okay. It is okay for. For. For you not to be Steph Curry, because guess what? No one else is either.

[Joe Burrow]

Nah. Yeah. I think his greatness gets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man actually said they would have had the same success if you take Steph out and put him in.

[Michael Irvin]

I have a question.

[Joe Burrow]

What's the question?

[Michael Irvin]

I never had the opportunity to watch Monte Ellis play. Right. I'm assuming he's telling him I'm assuming he talk about the team that was assembled with Kevin Durant and Clay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They went to two championships before kd. Yeah, and KD would have never came there because he was bald. He needed a ball. Katie wanted to go because they don't. Nobody dominated the ball there, so you're not gonna get Katie.

[Michael Irvin]

Monte Ellis was a point guard, I'm assuming, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, more like a.

[Joe Burrow]

More like a two masquerading as a two. Okay, masquerading as a point.

[Michael Irvin]

Well, Steph, Steph is the greatest, the greatest shooter of all time.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

How close? How close? Because I never watched Monte Ellis play. Obviously I didn't watch basketball back then. How close was Monte Ellis from the arc or just efficient, efficiently from the 3?

[Joe Burrow]

He, he was like a, he was a downhill, get to the bucket kind of guy. You couldn't keep him out the paint, Ocho. Like he was athletic and he played fearless. Like as far as getting ISO. Getting by his man, getting a bucket, he was hell to stop.

[Michael Irvin]

So he was Russell Westbrook.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, similar, similar, similar. He played with that type of force.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He could shoot. He could shoot, but he wasn't, he

[Joe Burrow]

wasn't no damn three point shooter like that, like mid range. He was a mid range assassin. And Stephen, not only was he a great three point shooter, but you talking about two, three, four steps behind the damn three point man. You had to guard this man. Come across half court, bro.

[Michael Irvin]

Half court. Yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

So that, that extends your defense, which allows guys like Steph Curry, if he runs a lot of pick and rolls, to be able to operate in so much space, man. Nah, I mean, don't get me wrong, man, Monte was great, bro. He was great.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wasn't stiff. What happens is, is that once you start picking them up out there, they start setting the pick out higher.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you ask grass you.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you got your big trying to deal with. Now you got your big trying to deal with him in all that space. Steph gonna get right on down the hill.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's hard. It's hard to game plan for Steph. Uncle Ocho, not only was he such a great shooter, but he's probably the, the guy on the court who was in the most shape. He was in the best shape, you know what I mean? Because he understood that was going to be his defensive mechanism. Meaning if I can run your ass out to death on offense, you know, that may even save me a little bit on defense. And I just think it opened up his game a lot more, especially when you got Guys that buy in, like Draymond. You look at his deficiencies offensively, he's not a scorer, he's not a shooter, but he a hell of a playmaker. His IQ for the game is high as I don't know what. So he used Steph to his advantage. And I think when you got players like that, like, I don't think. I couldn't really see. I could. I couldn't really see Draymond and. And. And Monta Ellis being a great fit. You know, the games really don't complement each other if you just want to keep it 100. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? Maybe if Dame Lillard had said something like that, I was like, okay. Cause he can shoot the ball. He can handle the ball. He can catch and shoot. He's tremendous off of pick and roll. He. He moves without the ball. Okay, I can look at that. I look at my. What do you think about Monte Ellis and Stefan Marbury? Would you say their games are similar? Guys that get down here want to get out. He. I think Stephan might be a little bit more explosive.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph has Monte Ellis, man. Monte Ellis was a bucket. Now he can score now. He.

[Joe Burrow]

He came out of high school, Uncle O.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Burrow]

Monte Ellis came out of high school to the pros at 6:3, you know what I mean? You got. You got. You got to be like that, bro.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anybody from Mississippi or something from me.

[Joe Burrow]

From, like, Mississippi. Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think to go back and look at that high school game with him and latero Green getting buckets against each other.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, yeah. Nah, nah, nah.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, Joe, you know, now that give me a better understanding why he has the confidence to say what he said. We talk about a player that made it to the NBA coming right out of high school.

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Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

He has to think like that. Okay, I got it now.

[Joe Burrow]

He explosive. He was explosive, though, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was. He was a good player. Now, Joe and I, we're not saying he's not a good player. We're saying. We just don't believe. Based on his body of work.

[Michael Irvin]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph's body of work with that office, the way it was, the free flowing. Nobody dominated the ball. I just don't see it.

[Joe Burrow]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's not to say that he's not a good player because he was a good player. But Steph is a. Steph is not a gen. Generational player, Stephan. I mean, Steph Curry is a transcendent player.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's historically great. There's a difference. A generation is 20, 20, 25 years. Steph Curry is transcendent. Yeah, as the word skip would say, transcendental. He's historically great. So when we say historically, we talk about the history of the game.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

we talk about that. That's what we're talking about. We talk about Steph Curry, Stephen Wardell Curry.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, he's special, bro. He's special. Hey, but you know what? When you think about it, the only

[Shannon Sharpe]

thing they got in common is complexion. But you know Steph, that's the only thing they got in common, you know? You know, they played together.

[Joe Burrow]

I think Monte had Steph when he was a rookie. And they end up having to get rid of Monte.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And why is that? So Steph could flourish.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello. There you go. There you go. Yeah, exactly why they did it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No secret.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, what Monte.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what they did. They got rid of him. And guess, and guess what they got they drafted. Who? The guy out of Washington State. Y' all know him, another light skinned fella, Klay Thompson. That move without the ball, they didn't need the ball to be good. Hey, and Katie says, you know what? I can play with them guys because they got guys over there to play the game, play the game the right way. They don't nobody need to dominate the ball.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah. That's why they fit so seamlessly. Them two beige brothers. Boy, they something else.

[Michael Irvin]

Boy, Splash brothers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get back to credit, man. Yeah. Hey, now I just. Man, but it's like not like Steph, I mean, he, they about the same height. Steph like six two, six three, maybe. Yeah, I give him. I mean, I think Steph is. Steph and I may well like stuff. I think Steph like six, two. But they two good.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, they two totally different players though. Totally, totally different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph is more Stephanie really, trying to dominate the ball. Steph gonna get off the ball.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Cause he can shoot that thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna get off the ball and take off running. He gonna run for one baseline.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, somebody gonna be setting the pick at the baseline if there was a big Kavon Looney or the cheap shot or, or, or, or what's the other guy? Andrew Bogan. Somebody gonna be able. He will come off that pin down or he will come off a flare and go let it go.

[Joe Burrow]

You already know it. Hey, and it's gonna be cash money. Yeah, cash money. Best to do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But no, I, I just don't see it. Monte, we, I think you're a true, you are a tremendous player. You had a great, had a great career. But I, I Don't see it. I sure. Well, you know what? We'll never know. But I sure wish you were there instead of Steph Curry, because LeBron would have had two championships. I know for damn sure. Well, he got what that 2015. He got that with two, and he got more because guess what? KD wasn't going there.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So LeBron had about four championships, so that he had about seven now.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he'd had those four in Cleveland. He got two. And who knows? He might have stayed. Kyrie might have. Want to stay. Might not have been made more enticing for Dan Gilbert to let Kyrie have some. Some of the perks that he gave old goat James and not just shut it down. Damn. Let the man have something. But no, I don't. I don't. I don't see that. I just don't. I wish, I wish I could agree with you, Monte, but I can't.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, me neither.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shaq doesn't think LeBron ranks high among any of the Lakers. Great. The good thing for LeBron is that he did win one. But you know, Kareem got six, Magic got five, Kobe got five, I got

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four,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rambos got three. So you know, he's at the party, but he's not on the stage. Anybody fake Kurt Rambus is a better player than LeBron James. If you want to say Kareem now, it seems to me. Hold on just a second.

[Joe Burrow]

Chat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It seems to me that Chat Shaq is using the ring. So by that argument, Horace Grant, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, all those guys that won rings are better than LeBron because if they got more rings, if they got more than one, he's looking at it like the ring chat. Even the most die hard Laker fan knows Kurt Ramos is not a better player than LeBron. But if you want to say Laker, Laker, because we ran into. We. Hey, we ran in that. And D. Wade explained it great. Better. He says LeBron James is the best player. I'm the best Heat player. LeBron played four years. D. Wade play. So if you. And. But D. Wade and I'm not. But I just can't look at Kurt Rambas and I can't look at a Rick Fox and all these guys that got both more rings than LeBron and say they better. Joe, I just can't. Maybe you can't get me there. Joe, help me. Maybe you can get me there.

[Joe Burrow]

Nah, I can't. I can't get you there neither. Hey. Hey. I think I. I think, I think because the Lakers are so rich in history. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, yeah, and Kareem, I ain't fighting you on Kareem. I ain't fighting your magic. I ain't fighting you on Kobe. Hell, I ain't fighting you. I'm not fighting you on any of that.

[Joe Burrow]

And. And I think this is another reason why Braun, you know, he didn't care about leaving because he already knew and understood that, you know, people was going to look at him like this. They. They knew they were.

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He.

[Joe Burrow]

He knew they weren't going to give him no credit. So here's what I'm gonna do, Ocho, if I'm Braun, but I'm gonna go somewhere else who ain't won in over however many damn years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

43 years, 1983, they won the championship.

[Joe Burrow]

I'm gonna take that gamble, bring them to the promised land. Then what you gonna say? You feel what I'm saying? There's always gonna be some, bro, when you great.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Burrow]

Y' all know when you great, man, they go. They got. They gotta find a way to pick at you, bro. It's just part of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if Shaq. I think Shaq is saying Laker. So if you look at that Laker rings, multiple.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think that's how Shaq's looking at.

[Joe Burrow]

Gonna be hard to pass them. Them first three. Kareem, Magic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but who. But who would argue that? Because if you just said if you like, and he said it. He said it. And so now, you know, he said laker. I think LeBron is a better player than all of them.

[Onplus Nicotine Pouches Announcer]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But not as a bit. Not a better Laker than.

[Joe Burrow]

All right, Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because if I look at LeBron's Lakers career and I look at Magic, Laker career, Kareem, Lakers career, Kobe's, Laker career. What are we talking about? Now? If you tell me LeBron's gonna get an opportunity to play with Kareem and Magic like Kurt Rambles did, or he's gonna get an opportunity to play with Shaq like Kobe did. Now, we might have an argument. He played eight years with Kareem and Magic. He plays eight. Shaq was there. Shaq was there eight years. He plays eight years with Shaq. Now, we might have a different discussion, but that's pie in the sky. He played eight years, and he didn't have those guys. He had Anthony Davis. He had, what, a year and a half of Luca.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you know what, Shaq, when you say Lakers, I give you that. I give you that. But I can't give you Kurt Rambis, though. I can't give you Kurt Rabbit. I'm sorry.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't give you kurt rabbits. You want to go b. Scott? You want to go kareem kobe, magic, Jerry West, Will Elgin.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, I can tell y' all something.

[Joe Burrow]

What?

[Michael Irvin]

Man, I don't know what the hell y' all talking about, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. But that. But that. But see that, that's the thing. That's the thing, though, Joe, when you say Celtic great or Laker great, because now anybody. People gonna be starting saying, hey, OG And Josh Hart, Mikhail Bridges are better Nick great than Patrick Ewing.

[Joe Burrow]

You right. You're right. You right. And be. Because a lot of people never got a chance to see Patrick Ewan play. It's out of sight, out of mind. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Burrow]

You know what I'm saying? Like, they, you know, people. Because of how we, you know, receive our information, people see these guys a lot more as, as opposed to when we were younger here, you didn't really see guys like that. And so this new generation who never got to see Jordan and. And Ewan and all those guys play, and they ain't gonna never understand that, bro. And you right, the guy, the. The guys for the Knicks, OG And Bridges. Yeah. People will look at them as greater nicks than. Than Patrick Ewing, for sure. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that. But that's what, that's what ring culture has done now.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what he's doing. It is what it is. We want rings, you know, we've turned it into that. If you ain't got a ring, your career was a bum. You were bum. You trash. You're not any good. I mean, I mean, I mean, basically, they look. I mean, yeah, I guess in the movies, if you don't win an Oscar, Ocho, you're not no good actor. Yeah, you don't want a Grammy. You ain't won no Grammy.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't want no Emmy, you ain't want no Tony. But so. So what. What we talking about?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

different times. We in different times. Before signing with The Clippers in 2019, Kawhi Leonard camps reportedly asked the Lakers for several impermissible perks, according to the athletic. Access to a private aircraft, a free home, guaranteed off court earnings and ownership stake in the team. The Lakers require denied the request as they violated the NBA cba. According to Bruce Arthur, Kawhi Leonard was at the meetings with Uncle Dennis when he made the demands to the Raptors trade for Paul George, an extra 10 million in sponsorship Partial ownership of the Maple Leafs ownership stake and other companies affiliated with mlse. Hey, now here's the guy.

[Joe Burrow]

That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now if this is true, we gotta, we gotta use if.

[Michael Irvin]

Allegedly, Allegedly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Allegedly. Bruce Arthur, Kawhi Leonard was at the meetings with Uncle Dennis when he made demands to the Raptors. Now, everybody said because he didn't resign, they're making this up. Also the Lakers said, hey, this report that he asked the Lakers for the same thing. He didn't sign with the Lakers. They're making this up. He signed with the little brothers. Now, I ain't got no problem asking for a trade for Paul George. There have been other players that say they get me X, Y and Z. Okay, that's cool. That's not against the cba. But getting extra sponsorships and doing all this, basically circumventing the salary cap, that absolutely is, yeah. Now, if this is true, Hey, the question is, can it be proven?

[Joe Burrow]

I, I, I, hey, look, I like how Kawhi and his uncle do business. You hear me? Listen, listen, you asking for all this access to a plane home.

[Michael Irvin]

Hold on, the home free though, Joe, come on. I want the home paid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Burrow]

Peter Paul said try it all, okay? Listen, I'm asking for every damn thing in my contract. If I'm hemothy, I'm him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo. Hey, hey, look, look, look, look.

[Joe Burrow]

I need, I need a few hours on this private. I ain't mad at him. That's all I'm saying, bro. Yeah, you know, but, but if you get caught, you know, you can't hide your hand. Now, Uncle Dennis come like, they got us. They got us, nephew. They got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, but this is not new. In 2026, this was reported at the time it was happening that he asked for things that Jenny, that Jeannie Bus said we can't do that. That's against the cap because you get all these things because guess what? It circumvents the salary cap because now I don't have to use my money. So a 20 million dollar salary, if I give you 10 million extra. 10 million in sponsorships. Excuse me, now that's 30 million. I buy you a house, you're gonna probably try to go to get the most expensive house you can get. That's another 10, $15 million. Oh, so now we have 40, 45 million. Now you want ownership of the Maple Leaf, that's another, you know, who knows how much. And other companies that they affiliated with.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, I only got a short time to play this game. Hell, I want to make as Much money as I possibly can right now. Because, look, right now, why they on me. Like Mike Jones said, now I'm hot. They all on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

I mean, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Let me see what I can get, bro. Let me see what I get. Let me throw everything at the window. Let's see what stick. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be like a Hogan's hero. I know nothing.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, but that's funny. But it's a small window of opportunity for him to maximize as much as he can, man. He was trying it, too, boy.

[Joe Burrow]

Amen.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, listen, when you as good as he is not, I would give me say was as. When you as good as Kawhi is. You can pull that off.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Arthur. Kawhi was at the meeting. So when Uncle Dennis was requesting this, Kawhi was allegedly there.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know. Oh, Joe. Yeah. You know, you got at least. We can't ask for that.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Something else, you know, we already got it planned out. Hey, Joe, we can't ask for that. Okay. We can't ask for that. What about a private jet? Can I get 400 in a private jet?

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we can't ask for that. Okay, okay. What about some ownership stake? And so y' all got. Hey, y' all got the Chick Fil. A's, Y' all got the Arby's, y'. All.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hortons.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact, Uncle Dennis say, let me do all the talking. Okay. Yeah, that way. That way, if they deny it, they could just deny me. You could just come up here and say, hey, listen, Monk was tripping.

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[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had a mean game plan. And for real, that ain't even my real uncle.

[Joe Burrow]

They try to finesse the system, man. I ain't mad at them, bro. Straight up. Like, I think when you go to these negotiation tables and people really, really want your service, just kind of like how, you know, the Lakers and the Clippers wanted Kawhi.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You asked for stuff, man.

[Joe Burrow]

Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, let's see if y' all gonna bend the rules a little bit. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm gonna be able to say, look at. You know, it'd be real. I'd probably be more apt to probably sign if old Rolls Royce was out there. Something sure would help me make my decision.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I prayed about it last night. God say, ask for a Ferrari.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay, okay, listen, listen. We gonna. Hey, hey, hey. I'm the Clippers. We gonna call the Rolls Royce place, and we gonna try to make sure. We get you a Rolls Royce deal that way. Now, you might have to do a appearance or two, but you get to drive. You get to have a free Rolls Royce. What you think about that? Oh, you got to just show up twice. We got two appearances for you. Our appearance. You come sign some autographs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can even pull up in. You. Allegedly. What Pablo Tor reported that he had. He had those kind of deals and didn't show. Have to show up.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you're a high. If you. Let's just say you coming out of college and you good with, you know, coding or computer programming or. Now this, this AI is taking over, man. You think I ain't gonna ask for the stars in the moon?

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you think I'm just gonna take a salary? I wish.

[Joe Burrow]

I might.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna ask for equity. I'm gonna ask for a private jet. All I'm asking about that. Yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How bad did. How bad do you want my services? As a matter of fact, you know, shoot my. My brother and sister a little something, too.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he bought a little 50. Little, little 50,000 year.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A little something. Hold them over. Get him on my payroll right quick.

[Joe Burrow]

Hello.

[Michael Irvin]

That's a nice little cushion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mama, she don't need like about three grand a month to go gambling, you know, Play. She don't do no play. Slot.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Sit there all day too, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but man, it's. It's just Toronto's like, man, we can't. We can't take no chance. Kawhi and, and sign you and then not have you that defeat the purpose. Because it seems that's the reason why they haven't done anything, Joe. O.J.

[Joe Burrow]

because, because Toronto don't know the repercussions is going to come behind all that. So it's like, damn, we, we, we. We close this deal on this trade. Ojo and you suspended for the first 40 damn games. Hell, what they gonna do for us?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing. Yeah. With the Clippers. The Clippers, like, damn, we might not have Kawhi and we might lose our first round draft picks. And we might. And they might. Salary. Might reduce our salary cap.

[Joe Burrow]

They gonna do something. All that. That's coming. That's coming. Cause you got to crack down on this because these owners make so much money.

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[Joe Burrow]

And it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing for them to do under the table deal. Damn it. Cause if I'm. If I'm him, I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, look, I'm gonna come to you Now I just need to, you know, you shoot me a little extra. 30, 40, 50 M's damn extra. Yeah. So we don't. So we can. We can keep the salary cap right to where we can still bring in guys, but. Yeah, I still want mine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. As a matter of fact, put it in one of my old Birkin bags. Put them on. A matter of fact, put it in a couple of the more Birkin bags. As much as you. As much as you. As many bricks as you can put in there. Put it in there.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we're gonna see how this thing play out. They got to be wrapping this up. I mean, this thing can't. And I've been reading reports and talking about this thing might. Might linger into 2027. That thing can't go to no damn 2027. Joe, we got to have some kind of resolution. We got to have draw this thing to a conclusion here soon.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. Cuz if they don't. If it's got to go that long on. Oo, does that mean Kawhi can't play until this is all figured out?

[T-Mobile Promotional Voice]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Michael Irvin]

Maybe he. Maybe they will allow him to play and figure it out later on in the offseason.

[Joe Burrow]

No, they ain't. No, no, no. Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't doing that.

[Joe Burrow]

They done been the rules too many times. Ooh. No, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody tell us something, because think about. Didn't come out in 20. It didn't come out in 21. It didn't come out in 22. It didn't come out in 23. It didn't come out in 24. This thing did not come out until 26.

[Michael Irvin]

Why did it come out all of a sudden now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think because the company went bankrupt.

[Joe Burrow]

That's what it was. But he was still. Kawhi was still getting paid, though, Ocho, even though the company went bankrupt, reportedly

[Shannon Sharpe]

didn't Barmer write him a check for like 70 million.

[Joe Burrow]

Ew.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, shoot.

[Joe Burrow]

They ain't nothing to bomb it, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo that man worth 175 billion. What's the. What's 70 million to him? 70,000 to you and I. That man said, bees.

[Joe Burrow]

That man worth 170 something, man. Come on, man.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, what do you do outside of owning a basketball team?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was the CEO of Microsoft.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Michael Irvin]

Oh, that makes sense. Okay, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, so he took, you know, he taking a billion dollars in salary, but he's taking, you know, 20, $30 million worth of shares. And you see what Microsoft is as a Trillion dollar company now.

[Joe Burrow]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. But they got to draw this to a conclusion. They can't. They can't let this go to 27, Joe. No, man. The season started off, they don't play 30 games. Kawhi sitting there. He gonna go to the. He'll go to the. The union. They fight this.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, they gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whatever. If he gets suspended or whatever the case may be, he probably gonna fight it anyway.

[Joe Burrow]

He probably gonna try and fight it, Unc, but it's gonna be a. It's gonna be a massive suspension behind this, and it's gonna be some real repercussions when it comes to the Clippers and the things that they're able to do in the foreseeable future. The NBA, man, they ain't. They ain't going for this, bro.

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[Michael Irvin]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Michael Irvin]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Joe Burrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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