Nightcap Hour 1: Celtics DESTROY the Heat + Make Washington Jr. JOINS Nightcap + Gary Owen CRACKS JOKES & Ocho OFFICIATES Wedding

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 1: Celtics DESTROY the Heat + Mike Washington Jr. JOINS Nightcap + Gary Owen CRACKS JOKES & Ocho OFFICIATES Wedding

Date: April 2, 2026
Podcast: Nightcap (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Guests: ISO Joe Johnson, Mike Washington Jr., Gary Owen

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Nightcap features instant reactions and unfiltered sports takes just after NBA action, deep-dives with special guests, and plenty of candid, comedic moments. Shannon Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson break down the Celtics' dominant win over Miami, reflect on the latest NBA playoff landscape, welcome projected NFL draft pick Mike Washington Jr. for a warm, honest interview, and enjoy fresh laughs with comedian Gary Owen, complete with wedding stories and behind-the-scenes banter.

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1. Celtics Rout the Heat: Boston's Statement Win ([08:13]-[17:07])

Main Discussion Points

• Boston’s Dominance: The hosts dissect Boston's 147-129 win over Miami, focusing on outstanding individual and team performances.
• Jalen Brown & Jason Tatum: Brown drops 43 points, Tatum records a triple-double (25/18/11), signaling the return of Boston’s elite duo.
• Supporting Cast: Sam Hauser (23 pts), Queta (16 pts, 11 reb), Pritchard (14 pts), and others step up, highlighting Boston’s depth.
• Miami's Struggles: Despite hitting 24 threes, the Heat remain outgunned, emphasizing the Celtics' firepower and Miami’s lack of top-end talent.
• Playoff Preview: The panel debates Boston’s ceiling, other Eastern contenders, and what Miami needs to regain contender status.

Highlighted Quotes

• “They not playing with their food, man. They getting rid of these teams, they understand what's at stake.” — Ochocinco ([09:27])
• “Both of these guys have been all-stars. Both of these guys have been all-NBA. Very few teams... can say that in the East.” — Shannon Sharpe ([12:11])
• “You can’t let a team shoot that high… even if Miami made 24 threes, they lost by 18.” — Shannon Sharpe ([13:55])
• “Boston got a lot, man. Offensively, they are juggernaut... with Tatum back, you figure, ok, maybe I can keep one of them at bay. But with both of them, it's going to be tough.” — Ochocinco ([14:42])

Notable Segment

• **Shannon, Ocho, and Joe Johnson compare the Celtics’ duo to other NBA duos and detail the killer instinct they show against contenders ([08:13]-[12:52]).
• **Miami’s failings and lack of firepower as a playoff threat are broken down, with hints that big offseason changes are needed ([17:07]-[18:13]).

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2. Special Guest: Mike Washington Jr. (University of Arkansas RB, NFL Draft Prospect) ([27:22]-[40:39])

Key Topics

• Adversity and Motivation: Mike recalls bouncing between three schools and opens up about the emotion of running a 4.33 at the combine.
• Preparation & Training: Details on his recovery, training regimen (emphasis on diet and first three steps), and the grind to peak physically.
• Mindset Shift: Now focused on legendary status—Pro Bowl, Hall of Fame aspirations.
• Ball Security: Honest about his fumble issues and shares drills to fix them.
• YouTube Journey: Why he is documenting his path for posterity and as inspiration.

Memorable Moments

• “Really, just everything. All my hard work paid off... the realization just hit me at once.” — Mike Washington Jr. on becoming emotional after his 40 time ([28:22])
• “I had four running back coaches in three years [at Buffalo]... went to New Mexico, then Arkansas. I just wanted to play against better competition.” ([32:33])
• “Everybody fast [in the NFL], but being able to do more at your position will separate you.” — Joe Johnson’s advice for Mike Jr. ([41:49])

Coaching/Advice

• Both hosts and Joe Johnson stress the importance of staying humble, hungry, and versatile, not just in making the league, but in becoming indispensable.

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3. Special Guest: Gary Owen—Comedy, New Fatherhood & Ocho Officiates His Wedding ([51:35]-[82:59])

Major Segments

• Gary’s New Life: Talks about having twins after two decades, doing it with a nanny, and remarrying.
• Ocho the Officiant: How Ochocinco ended up officiating Gary’s wedding on two days’ notice—hilarity behind the scenes.
• Stand-Up By Athletes: Joe Johnson tries out jokes, Gary offers backstage insight, and laughs abound as they reminisce about old comedy nights involving the Bengals.
• Race, Audience, and Comedy: Gary reflects on cultivating a Black audience as a white comedian: “You don’t choose your audience, they choose you.” ([60:07])
• BET Legacy: Unique position as the first and only white host of Comic View.

Highlighted Quotes

• “I ain’t got a nanny this time. It’s easy. It’s light work with the nanny.” — Gary Owen, on new fatherhood ([52:49])
• “We wanted the guys to be in all black...[but] so many guys said they couldn’t find a black shirt. Chad confirmed on Thursday, the wedding was Saturday. He found it. He came.” ([63:02])
• “You don’t choose your audience. They choose you.” — Gary Owen ([60:07])
• “Once you get in the algorithm... you get rewarded for being in that algorithm. Even negative press!” — Shannon Sharpe ([68:01])

Memorable Segment

• Wedding Chaos: Owen recounts Cedric the Entertainer almost officiating, 50 Cent canceling last-minute, and Ocho stepping up ([55:05]-[56:52]).
• Cincinnati Comedy Nights: Reminiscing about “Two Funny Tuesdays” hosted by Gary and Ocho in 2006 ([58:23]-[59:29]).
• Athletes Doing Comedy: Joe Johnson’s “burger joint” joke gives the room a “tough crowd” moment ([72:34]-[73:02]).

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4. Athlete Generosity: Ocho’s Ticket Giveaways ([79:01]-[84:45])

Discussion Points

• Ocho’s Generosity: Details on buying out unsold Bengals tickets to prevent game blackouts, flying fans to away games, and rare fan ungratefulness.
• Fan Story: Gary and the hosts recount a fan who, after receiving tickets, air, and hotel, still asked for taxi fare.
• Relating to Tough Team Times: Joe Johnson and Ochocinco share memories of playing for struggling franchises.

Quotes

• “People… you get two tickets, a flight, and accommodation and want $60 for a cab?” — Shannon Sharpe ([80:15])
• “We had some games where the games was blacked out, Joe, because they didn’t sell enough tickets, Joe. I bought up the rest of the tickets...” — Ochocinco ([84:19])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The job of a comedian is take real events… and make them funny. But it’s not just about being funny, you gotta talk about something.” — Shannon Sharpe ([73:27])
• “I just try to treat everybody… just be cool with everybody.” — Gary Owen ([78:43])
• “Once you get drafted, you can’t exhale. You gotta keep that same mindset… as easy as it is to get there, it’s much harder to stay.” — Ochocinco ([42:31])

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Key Timestamps

• Celtics-Heat Instant Reaction: [08:13]-[17:07]
• NBA Playoff/NBA Duos Debate: [11:07]-[13:55], [15:16]-[16:47]
• Mike Washington Jr. Interview: [27:22]-[40:39]
• Gary Owen Joins, Wedding & Comedy Banter: [51:35]-[76:32]
• Athlete Generosity/Fan Stories: [79:01]-[84:45]

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Tone & Style

Staying true to Nightcap’s unfiltered, conversational style, the episode mixes sharp sports analysis with barbershop humor and authentic personal storytelling. All speakers bring their signature energy: Shannon plays the sage and provocateur, Ocho is boisterous and candid, Joe Johnson analytical and occasionally tongue-in-cheek, while Gary Owen delivers raw, relatable comedy.

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Summary

This episode of Nightcap perfectly captures why the show’s popularity has exploded: sharp sports insight, no-filter athlete/celebrity conversation, and plenty of laughs, all with a sense of community and shared experience. Whether it’s breaking down NBA power shifts, hearing the grind and perseverance of a young running back, or learning that even NFL stars can bomb onstage attempting dad jokes, it’s an hour-plus of must-hear, late-night sports culture.

Transcript

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

We do it. What we do. We do. We'll continue to do that. And thanks to the fan support, we shall continue to grow. The Boston Celtics beat down The Miami Heat 147, 129. Jalen Brown, JB 43 points, 7 assists, 4 May threes. Jason Tatum had a trip dove, 25 points, 18 rebounds, 11 assists. Gassy Heard and who was the best duo in the NBA conversation. And they said, hold on man, y' all need to stop playing with us. Sam Houser chipped in 23 points on 9 of 11 shooting from the floor, 5 of 7 from the three point line. Even Quater had 16 points and 11 rebounds. And the bench. Luke Garza 12 points. Peyton Pritchard 14 points. Bailey Sharman had eight points. They did the demolition and, and, and, and the Heat did everything they could. Joe. They were 11 or 15 from the three point line. They cut it down I think to like 8 or 10 to start the fourth. And then they go on, then the Celtics go on a seven nothing run. And then they never really look back from that because they didn't have an answer for JB and JT Joe watching this game. Are the Celtics really, really dangerous? Can they really. Are there the team that everybody should be afraid of in the east, coming out of the Eastern Conference and representing the Eastern Conference in the NBA Finals?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, of course they are, Uncle Ocho. Since Tatum came back, they've been playing amazing basketball. They're gearing, they're gearing up for a postseason run. You know what I mean? Like, they, they hear the chatters, they hear everybody talking about who's gonna come out the east. And obviously with Tatum back and playing at the, at playing the way he's been playing, it's definitely the, it's got him at the top of the east right now. I mean, they've been playing great basketball. The NSync they haven't missed a beat and they got so many weapons, so many guys that could beat you. I didn't know how Tatum was going to look, look coming back but man, he's looked great. And guess what? They not playing with their food, man. They getting rid of, they getting rid of these teams. They, they understand what's at stake and they understand the opportunity that they have and that's to contend for a title and they had a team to do it. So I enjoy watching those guys play. I enjoy watching JB to continue to dominate and continue to, you know, being MVP conversations. Although I do not think he will, he will win it, but I think he's done a hell of a job this year, man. And competing on both ends of the floor and keeping the Celtics afloat.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey Unc and Joe, matter of fact, hell, before Jason Tatum came back, what JB was able to do with the Celtics that we thought he wouldn't be able to do was have them contending, have them coming out the east of being one of the top teams to come out the east. And the fact that he kept, he kept that ship afloat without Jason Tatum where he was in the MVP conversations and had them playing as well as they did without JT and then one JT come back. Them boys still ain't missed no beat. You know, even though they, they demolished me heat tonight. You know that's, that's, that's a whole nother conversation in itself. But man, hey, they look good. They look real good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing that makes them where they were vulnerable before Tatum came back is that if you look at the Knicks, Carl Anthony here there, but they got two guys. They got Brunson and Cat. If you look at Cleveland, they got two guys, they got Mitchell, they got Harden and they were gonna, that was gonna leave JB all by himself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now that they got Tatum back to go along with jb, now they got another guy that you know on that can give you 30, 40 points. He can go get your double digit rebound.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We saw tonight get a triple dub so he can facilitate, he can run an offense.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now that makes them, yeah their hands on favorite to come out. I mean I don't, I don't know what the, what it was going into the season but there's no question in my mind they're picked to come out of the Eastern Conference and I understand Detroit with K. Cunningham having an unbelievable season. Jalen Duran went to the all star game and those. That's a two headed monster but they're not this. No, you talk about two guys that's already been there, done, back. Both guys are one of Eastern Conference most valuable player, the Larry Bird award winning war JB has won a finals mvp.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both of these guys have been all stars. Both of these guys have been all pros. All, excuse me, all NBA. So there are very few teams that can have, that have two guys like that, that have that kind on their resume. You got to go all the way to the, you know, the Western Conference to see two guys that, that have been all stars and one guy's been a finals mvp. And you talk about Shay and Jalen Williams and now they got chat. So they got three guys that's been all stars.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And one guy's the finals mvp. He's probably favored to win this year's regular season MVP as he did last year. You got Jokic and Murray because. So if you look at the Western Conference, they normally have two guys that can come get you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now with Boston, with JT and jb.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, I, I, I, I like it. But it's not just J. J.T. and JB. No, is what we call the others. Those other guys, the, the Peyton Pritches, the Derrick Whites, the Sam Housers, those guys who've been playing this entire season without Tatum, Uncle Ocho, they understand what it's like, you know what I mean? So they know if they needed to be counted on, obviously they gonna come through. They'll win you some games in the postseason. You gonna put a lot of load on Brown and Tatum, but for the most part you got other guys who willing, who willing to step up and have no problem with stepping up and playing. A big factor, you know, in the Boston Celtics advancing in the postseason. So I like where the Celtics at, man. I'm sure they, I'm sure they're, you know, pretty ecstatic where they at as well, which is probably why Tatum came back. And man, from the looks of it, I mean, 147 points. Ocho, you, you gonna win the majority of them games. You know, you scoring like that rate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, they shot 58 from the floor. They shot 48 from the three. You gonna lose by 20. Yeah, a damn near. You can't let a team shoot that high, damn near 60 from the floor, the two point line. You let them shoot 48 from the three point line. Even if you made the Heat made 24 threes and they lost by 18 points.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On my team, they had six guys in double figures. And lost by 18 points. Wiggins had 13, Bam had 29. Mitchell had 21. Hero had 18. Larson had 18. Hawkins Jr. Had 17. They made 24 threes, and they. And they shot 46. So it wasn't like they shot in the 30s and they lost by 18.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Boston got a lot, man. Offensively, they are juggernaut, like an Ocho. They. I mean, with Tatum back, you figure, okay, maybe I can keep one of them at bay. Tatum, yes. But, hell, with both of them, it's going to be tough because, you know, even though Derrick White didn't have the greatest game tonight, you know, he only shot four shots, but, you know he's capable of coming out and getting you 25, 30 points on any given.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what I mean? They just got so many weapons that I think that's going to help them prevail.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yes, they are a very scary team to deal with as of right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at Jason tatum and. And jb. Jt and jb. Jt was plus 7. Brown was plus 9. Hauser plus 23. Quater plus 28. Pritchard plus 20. Charman plus 14. So think about it. Your two big guns are in the plus, which is great, but they have some of the lowest plus, if, as Joe said, the others. Yeah, we seen Peyton Pritchard. Okay, so you know what? Let's just say for the sake of argument, one of the big two having an off game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's just say if JT or jb, one of those guys, the other guy gets it going, you still got to worry about. You still got to worry about Pritchard.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pritchard can light your ass up for 40. Sam, how to. Can go. Can go. Can make seven threes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. They got a total team package when it comes to, you know, hitting you in different waves, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we can. We can run this trap on Tatum and jb. But I like Equator, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, he understands his role plays. Hard shot blocker, rim protector, you know, defender. Ain't gonna do much more than that. You know, he gonna take what you give him. He had a double double tonight. Actually, he been playing well the whole entire season from a decent standpoint. So they. They got rid of some key players and Al Horford and Drew Holiday. But at the same time, man, they. They plug and play. They got some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They upgraded, though. Hey, I mean, look, I'm trying to.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm trying to think of something to say, honestly, trying to defend my heat. I really Can I'm. I want to go into. And use the point that. Listen, the Celtics doing what they did to the Miami Heat is really not a measuring stick for how good they are. But the fact that the Celtics do goddamn everybody like this, like there's. There. There's no point that I can actually make outside the fact that we don't have enough fire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Hawks put foots in them last night, though. Hey, you see.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You see them hogs balling?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They just put foots in back. The magic, too, tonight.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey. What. Listen, a squirrel getting every. Every moon.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

A squirrel getting every move.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he got two of them in the past two days. Must be Christmas.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. Hey, hey, the Heat don't have enough firepower, man. I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we don't. We got.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We got to do a whole lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. They.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They gonna be. They gonna be a play in team, and they play hard and compete, so they. They may still have a chance to get that A spot. But I don't see them. They ain't called.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't doing no damage. I mean, they. They don't. They don't have. They don't have enough. And, And. And. And I understand Pat Riley. I mean, he wants to keep his homegrown talent he seems to be unwilling to part with. With Tyler Herron, but the only guy that I would be really unwilling to part with.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think, Joe, everybody else, you can have them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I agree. I agree. I think they gonna make some changes. They gonna make some changes this summer. Uncle Ojo, if this.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I told you what's gonna happen. Now, I said. I said it before the season started. I was saying it when. Before the trade deadline approach. But obviously some things didn't work out in the way we wanted it to. But I can guarantee in this offseason joke.

[Gary Owen]

You hear me?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And when the exact players I said that was coming, when they actually come, all I want to do, all I want you to say, boy, Ocho, boy, you know something down there, boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You said. You saying. You saying Ja or Giannis gonna come. You ain't saying both.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, there's a good chance we could land both because, I mean, Pat, listen, are we. Are we trying. Listen to me. Stay with me. Are we trying to change the culture? Are we trying to be the A seed or a playing team every goddamn season? Hey, listen, the AC is a play in all that is. It participates in trophy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now, listen, you ain't trying to change the culture. The culture is great. What you need is a little More talent. Okay, you need some more?

[Gary Owen]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What is culture without the talent? What is culture without the talent? You mediocre. You like the cowboy? Oh, my bad, my bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the problem that they have is that when you look at it and they had, they went to the. A few years ago, maybe 23, maybe a little before that, they went to the NBA Finals, maybe it was 22, they went to the finals and they lost to the Nuggets. And the worst, sometimes the worst thing can happen to you is that you have success because you think you're good enough. Yeah, they ain't been good enough in a while. Andrew Wiggins had that, that out of body experience when they won that championship against the, against the, the Celtics. Yeah, but Andrew Wiggins has been just a guy. Yeah, he's been just a guy. He's the number one overall draft pick. He wouldn't have been that had Joel Embiid back, had held up in college. But he's a guy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you counting on him. He's your second best player.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, so I'm just trying to figure out, okay, you got Bam. Bam is Bam. Bam is. Can defend. You see, Bam can get. Bam is a double. Double machine. Tyler Hero is. Tyler Hero is a solid player. But are you. Do you really believe you could win with Tyler Hero as your first or second best player? You believe you can win a championship with him as your first or second best player, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, you, you, you, you. You have to have Wiggins insert himself and be aggressive. Uncle Ocho, like he, he has to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Cause he's capable of averaging 20 a night. 20 or more a night. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just, man shot seven times, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know this one. He played 32 minutes, only shot seven times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And I just feel like he got so much, so much game and potential that he's one guy who I feel like, man, when it's time to turn it up, I feel like he can. I mean, he's won the title. He's played with some great talent before, so he knows what it's like. But for whatever reason, it just hasn't been there for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hard for me to believe at the age of 30 it's gonna come to him. Now I could be. Well, he might not. He might not even be 30. He might be 28, 29.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, I think he probably about 30, but he probably. He right there. He right there. What I'm saying is, I'm saying, okay, Ocho, he can muster it up. To where, you know, when the postseason start, whatever he's averaging, he can give you more than that. That's all I'm saying. I think he, he has a lot more in the tank.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can. Can is the. Is the ability to do something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Will he. What have you seen based on that, Based on that one run that he had in Golden State in which they won the title. What about all those other years when they was losing to the Lakers in the play in. How do you. How was he looking?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But what I'm saying is in order for the Lakers to make some. I mean, not the Lakers, the Heat to make some noise, they got to have another guy. Bro. You can't put all this on bam, come out here and get, you know, 30 or no night, you know what I'm saying? He gonna do a little bit of everything. He workhorse, I think with him scoring that 83, you know, everybody looking at him a little different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, I don't, I don't. That's out of my. He had. He had an out of body experience. It's almost like the situation where we hear about somebody having the out of body experiences where they, they have an enormous body strength or they do something out of this world. That's what Bam had.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Our very, very special guest is joining us. University of Arkansas running back Mike Washington tip the scales. At 6 foot 1, 230, 23 pounds. In the combine, he ran a 4, 3, 3. He had a vertical jump of 39, broad jump of 10ft, 8 inches, and his stats in 20, 26, he only had 167 rushes, but over a thousand rush yards and eight rushing. Touchdown, Mike. How you doing, bro? Y' all can hear me? Mike? Yeah, we got you.

[Unidentified Guest 1]

What's good?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What's good, bro? Where you at?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I'm in Arkansas right now.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay. You still out there?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey. He down there running. Them heels, man. Them heels got you right down. There ain't a man.

[Gary Owen]

Everything got me right out here, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm talking about. Hey, Mike, we. Mike, we saw the clip of you after you ran that blistering time. You became very emotional at that moment. What was going through your mind and why did you become so emotional at that point in time?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really, just everything. You know, I've been through a lot of adversity. I had bounced from school to school, been to three schools, was at Buffalo, New Mexico State, and then, you know, Arkansas. But really, just everything, like, all my hard work, you know, it paid off. And, you know, that realization that, you know, all my hard work paid off just hit me at once.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What has the process been like so far for you? Obviously, I understand how. How difficult the process is, especially when talking to the team, talking to some of the owners, talking to the. The higher ups and the questions that they ask. What has the process been Been for you, you know, throughout the combine experience.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Honestly, it's been a blessing being able to talk to these different teams, you know, getting a chance to talk to, you know, the. The head coaches, running back coaches, officer coordinators. It's really just been a blessing. I've been, you know, just trying to soak everything up.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Mike, what's happening, bro? Hey, what's your. What was your training like preparing for the combine? You know, we know you ran a 4, 3. Obviously, you did your thing in the combine. This boost you up on a lot of. On a lot of people. Drafts, boards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What was your training like? What. What did you incorporate that helped you out, you know, in this combo?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really just. It was really dieting. You know, I was out there in Fort Myers training that X3, and, you know, I got a chance to. At first, when I came in, my body was beat up, you know, because of the season.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

So I had to get a lot of treatment. Like, I mean, it was. It was every day where I was just getting treatment, working on my body. But once I took care of, you know, the. The nicks and bruises of the season, we was really able to, you know, fix, you know, everything regarding my start, regarding my first three steps, like, all of that. And that was, like, the biggest thing that I had to emphasize. My first three steps. We was able to get that corrected.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know, what, for myself, obviously, me being a foodie and being a nutritionist. I'm curious, when you say your diet, you had to get your diet right to prepare yourself for the comb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What did you eat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did what?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, what. What kind of diet we talking about?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, I just had. So. So when I. When I'm talking about my diet, I'm talking about, like, you know, the macros and all of that. So protein, I had a hit a certain. I had to hit a goal every day in terms of how much protein I had, how many carbs, how many fats. So, I mean, it was a lot

[Shannon Sharpe]

of lean, between 180 and 220 protein. Grams of protein, because theoretically, you could eat a gram of protein per body pound. So you. 220. So you can get somewhere between 190 and 220. Maybe you want to go add a little muscle. You go to 230. 230.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, it was more. So it was more protein than really any of them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Which was hard for me because I'm a big carb guy. Like, I like my rights. You know, my. That was like, the hardest thing for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, eating quality. Eating quality protein is hard. If you eating chicken, you eat fish, you eat turkey, you eat lean cuts of meat. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. You get a couple of burgers, a couple of hot dogs, some fried food, you blow right through that man. Man, you'll blow right through that mic.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you gotta stay. You gotta. You gotta stay away from that fast.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joe, slow down. Joe, slow down.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ocho the man finna be a pro. We need to. Let's teach him how he should take care of his body, what he should be eating, what he should stay away from if he want to keep that 4:3 speed when he get in the league. Yeah, don't, don't, don't. Don't get satisfied. Don't get comfortable, bro, you gotta keep your foot on the gas, you feel me? Don't be listening to Ocho. Ocho out here eating McDonald's and all that. Ocho, his body type might not.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, we're the same side, Joe. We the same size. I'm 6, 3, 2, 25.

[Gary Owen]

Not even close.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Mike, check this out. You. You mentioned your journey and adversity that you face. University of Buffalo, New Mexico, then Arkansas. You're from upstate New York, right?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, New York.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you go to. You go to Buffalo, that doesn't suit you. You go to New Mexico, that doesn't suit you. What was it about Arkansas? What was that? That say, you know what? I think this is the place for me. I think this is where I can hone my craft and I can become what I believe I can become.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really. So starting off at Buffalo, I had. A lot of people don't know this, but I was at Buffalo for three years and I had four running back coaches in three years. So that was like the. And then going into New Mexico State, I had a decent season and ended up hitting a portal, mainly because I just knew that I had to play against, you know, better competition to, you know, get better looks. So that's why I hit the portal. But before Arkansas, I had committed to Utah, and when I. When I committed, I didn't sign. I was waiting on the papers and I mean, a week went, Went, went by and I didn't sign at all. I don't know if they were stalling or what, but, you know, Arkansas came into the picture and, you know, they were able to put together a great game, game plan for me to graduate and then also presented me with the opportunity to, you know, play. So that was like the biggest thing with Arkansas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what's been playing. You mentioned playing against top level competition. You know the top competition the SEC and the Big Ten and so and you didn't have a whole lot. You didn't have a whole lot of carries but you averaged about six yards of carry. So what. What is it about and looks at from the projection. Seattle, the Broncos and the Bengals are three are word you kind of looked at being projected at because I think all three of those teams obviously K9, he left Seattle and went to. Went to City, Kansas City. The Broncos they could need somebody in the backfield with K.J. harvey and obviously the Bengals, although Brown played extremely well. They probably want somebody with a little bigger body and and can and. And compound it up in there and maybe you guys split carry the cuz seeming seemingly that's where everybody's going to to the two back system. But what was it, what was it about the SEC that really really like okay, I see all these guys that come out every year that go there. Let, let me see what they're really talking about.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really. I feel like I had a season I had because you know just the motivation and you know determination when it came to really just playing at SEC coming in, a lot of people were saying that I'm not SEC caliber. A lot of people were saying that I'm going to be third team and I'm. I'm a ride the bench. I'm be handing out water. So I really thought about all of that during the season. That was. That was like really my driving motivation.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, when you think when you talk about playing the, the running back position, obviously we all have our favorite players that if you think about your favorite players in NFL right now, who do you mold or who would you say your playing style is like that's in today's game?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I would definitely say Josh Jacobs and I've been watching him since he was in Alabama. Yeah, he went to you know, the Raiders and Green Bay. I've been watching him like all throughout his career and I'll definitely say him.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I like it. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Mike. What you doing right now bro? Preparing for the draft. What it's like. I know you, you know, you preparing for the comeback. Had a hell of a combine. What are you doing now? Obviously on the brink of getting drafted. What's your workout regimen like? What's your thought process on even getting a chance to play in the NFL knowing that I'm sure it was a probably lifelong dream of yours. What is it like? What is it like right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

So Right now, I'm training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. And then next week, we. We go into Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, conditioning. So that's what my training is like. And then I'm also getting treatment every day. I'm taking advantage of all of that because it's all free in Arkansas, all of that. Right now I feel like my mindset has started to shift it in terms of, you know, goals, you know, because this has always been, you know, a goal of mine, you know, making it to the NFL. And now, you know, my mindset is starting to change into, you know, you know, trying to hit that legendary status.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really, really. Just, you know, whatever it takes, you know, like, you know, whoever's becoming a Pro Bowler, you know, and eventually, you know, my end goal is being in the hall of Fame. So that's where my mind started. My mindset starting to shift to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, Mike, you know, looking at the scouting report, the one thing that. That the first thing up there. Ball security. Yes, sir. That you need to do a better job of securing the football. 10 fumbles over three seasons. What have you been doing to try to fix that small flaw that's in your game?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really just emphasizing it. Like, I do position work every other day while I'm out here, and I'm just really just emphasizing it. Like, I'm out cuts. Like, I do a drill, position drill, then I'll run like a gasser, and I come back while I'm tired because that's when I had my fumbles. I come back while I'm tired, and I get back in the drill, and I'm just emphasizing, you know, carry holding the ball tight. It's really just an emphasis thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You ever been to Cincinnati?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I've been through Cincinnati. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

There's a good chance you might be there, man. You know, you chase Brown in the backfield. I'm probably going to be in the war room, you know, on draft day. So I'm just, you know, put my word in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna send you to war. Not no war room. To war.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I'm trying. I'm trying to improve my team. That's all. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You started. You started a YouTube channel?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So tell us a little bit about that.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, really just. Really just documenting my life, documenting everything. I want to be able to look back when I'm older and be able to show my kids everything, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Okay. I like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's what's up, bro. That's what's up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how long? How long how long have you had the YouTube channel? And did you start it? Like, okay, did you start it during the season? Did you start it once you started preparing for the combine? When did you start this? To say, you know what? I want to start this look back so when I'm here, I can have my kids, my grandkids, we can all sit down and take, hey, look what you. Look what your dad. Look what your grandpa.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, I started during combine training, so, like a few months ago.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you didn't document. Did you document anything during your. Your final season in Arkansas? Did you. Did you. Any latest. You know?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Nah. So that's why. That's. That's my only regret. I should have started it during the season, but end up starting after. After the season. I got a couple. I got one video out right now, and then I have another one that. That should be dropping within, you know, the next couple hours, actually.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

All right, I gotta check that out.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's awesome, man. Congratulations. I mean, you. The. The process in which you've gone through, you know, going to three schools, it doesn't matter where you started, where you finished. Now I just want us to share this information with you. I know your lifelong dream was to play in the NFL, but your journey doesn't start it now. The journey starts. So getting there is easy. Staying there is the hard part, man. Continue to work, continue to put God first. Continue to do all the things that you did to get you there, but you're going to have to do them at an even higher level now because there are a lot of. There are a lot of guys that were all Americans and all conference and all this at that level. And so in order for you to stand out above them and to make sure you stay at that level, you know what it takes because you got this far, continue success. So here at Nightcap. Ocho. ISO. ISO is the University of Arkansas loom.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know he gonna be. He gonna be watching with Eagle eye.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, Mike. Hey, Mike. Hey, hey. Stay tunnel vision, bro. Yeah. I mean, everything else on the side, them just distractions, homie. Stay locked in. And congratulations, bro. And I wish you the best on the draft and woo, pigs.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, congratulations, man. Good luck on everything. When you do get drafted, I'm sure you have a team of people, you know, that direct you and what. And what you need to do and what you don't, what you need and need not do. But if you need a nutritionist, you know, holla at your boy, I can get You a nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't do that.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I got a nice little plan for you, man. Get you. Get you, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you. Yo, how the family doing? The family good? Everybody good? Mom, dad, brother, sister? Everybody?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, everybody doing good. They actually watching it right now. So shout out to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, mama. Yeah, make sure you subscribe. Make sure you hit that subscribe button and hit the like button while you're at it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate it, man. All the best, man. God bless. Stay healthy and look forward to hearing your night, hear your name called on draft.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir. Good luck, Mike. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you, bro. Mike Washington, Jr, University of Arkansas running back. He's projected to go fairly high. I mean, great. Size 6 1, 223 running 4. 3. You look at his bird, you look at his standing brawl jump, it lets you know he's explosive. It lets you also let you know he did what he did in one of the preeminent conferences in football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now that say. Hold on. He battle tested. Yeah, he can run like that. He can jump like that. Like I said, the only knock that I can that I find is that he got to do a better job of taking care of football because that the quickest way to get your ass off the field is to put that. Oh, remember earlier this year, Derrick Henry, as great as he was, what did the Ravens do?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, on the sideline. Hey, remember what I said, Uncle, Come on here with me. What did I tell you with the problem? What did he take off his hands? What he took off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Off.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Off his arms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn sleeves.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Because you can't. You can't. You can't feel the goddamn ball, Joe. But listen, but for him, another thing also.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we know, you know, because you know what skin to skin feel like. So we know you like skin. Oh, yeah, we know. We know you another.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Another thing for him, too.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Joe and uncle is coming in, being a running back, you know, everybody fast, huh? You know what I'm talking about? Everybody can run, but being able to do more at your position will separate you from everybody else. Being able to do more, not having to come out on third downs, knowing how to pass block, being able to catch out the backfield. You know, all that stuff matters, and it makes you a lot more valuable outside of just the stats and what you did at the combine. So I'm hoping, you know, he got the right people around him, you know, so he can be a much better running back than what he was at. Goddamn Arkansas is adding other tools to his toolbox that makes you more Value

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

and, and, and staying locked into the point to where you focus. You know, how like training for the combine, I'm. Because I'm sure both of y' all have done it. You probably had to train your butt out for the comeback then. But like, once you get drafted, you can't exhale, bro. Hell no, you can't exhale. You gotta continue. You gotta keep that same mindset as though you still trying to get somewhere even though you're already there, you know? And like Unc say, as easy as it is to get there, man, it's much harder to stay. It's the same thing for the. In the NBA, bro, because guys get so comfortable after they get drafted, after they know the ropes, after they know how much they need to put in. You know, you can't, you can never get comfortable, bro. You always got to stay locked in and stay hungry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think, look, you got to be really special, really, really special running back to basically be a two down back. I mean, to be like an Adrian Peterson, because Adrian Peterson came out a lot on third down. Henry comes out on third down. You got to be special. But it's not a whole lot of Ladanian Thomasons. There are not a whole lot. It's not a whole lot of Marshall Fox though, and Christian McCaffrey and get. There are not a whole lot of guys like that. And somebody said, man, Eric Dickinson fumbled one time, 18 times in one season. Yeah. He rushed for 2100 yards. One time on the season, two, he rushed for 20 touchdowns.

[Gary Owen]

Ed was different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if I'm old enough. I remember what Ed came in when he had the Jerry curl.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And with the. And he was the state champion 100 and 200 in the state of Texas. You know one thing, Texas, Florida, Georgia. When it comes to speed, if you win the state, if you win the state track meet in one of those, in California, in one of those three states. Oh, you can move.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you can move. You get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could you. No, you can move.

[Gary Owen]

Move.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know what's so funny about AD A ED 2 UNC is when you look at. When you look at his highlights, he runs so straight up. He runs up and down tall as hell. Boy, that boy move. He be moving, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Eric the Ram. But it's great to see the. The journey that these kids and overcome things. You know. He's from upstate New York, obviously. He goes to the University of Buffalo. That doesn't work out for him. He goes on. He goes. He didn't mention that he had four coaches, running back coaches while he was there. And then he goes to New Mexico State and for whatever reason, like, you know what, I had a good season, but I want people because look at the level of competition and I'm kind of doing this and they're going to hold that against me. So let me go against top level competition, do what I did and maybe I'll get a better look. And he's probably played himself into a top three, you know, probably not going to get out of the second or third. He could be a first round pick, but indications like he's probably going to go see that second day, probably second or third round. Nice size, ability to run the football. Got that kind of speed. Four, three, three. At that size. That's.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that was the fastest in the combine, wasn't it? Out of running backs. It might have been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think somebody might have had a 4, 3, might have had a 4, 3 flat. But to. For a running back. But these guys. Now see, here's the thing. The problem that I have with this joke, guys are going to and specifically training, it'd be like you, Joe, going and says, okay, Joe, we want you to shoot. Now we're gonna do a test, Joe, but you only gonna shoot threes from the right top of the key.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's all you're gonna shoot and that's all you did. Yeah, you're gonna get very proficient at that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see, the thing is, is that can you play football? I love that you can run fast. I love that you can jump high. I love all of that. But at the end of the day, I ain't got no stopwatch on you. I ain't got no measuring tape on you. Can you play?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That's all that matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I need to know. Can, can that, can that 4, 3 and that 11 foot and that 48. Does it translate to get your ass on the field? I put a helmet on you, I put shoulder pads and I put feet on your damn feet. Can you translate that right? Because Joe, I'm sure you've seen guys that can jump out the gym and they can shoot it, but they get in the basketball game and I'm like, son, what you doing?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right? Right. I already know what you're talking about. Hey, some, some can, some can't. I think what, what happens is when you're in a combine or when you're training for the NBA, it's like, can you make those reads in the game? You know what I mean? Those game situations because you ain't gonna in basketball, you ain't gonna get the top speed. In football you might. But before you get to top speed, you gonna have to wiggle a little bit.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You understand? So I understand what you're talking about.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary Very, very special guest. We got a very, very special guest joining us. I don't know why he when we came he came in the chat a little early but he was looking why so serious?

[Gary Owen]

There he is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Very funny. Mr. Gary. Oh Gary.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What up Gary? What's up baby?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What up bro?

[Gary Owen]

What's up man?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey Gary. I didn't I haven't had an opportunity to talk to you since we did the the Club Shay Sha interview and hopefully you enjoyed the way it came out, we got a lot of positive feedback. Hopefully, people started collecting. Man, I ain't no Gary was that funny. But I've done 200 of these, and so hopefully you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed it. Of 200 pods I've done, I've only had one person to say they didn't have a very enjoyable experience. So I want to say, hopefully you had a very enjoyable.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah, that was dope. Yeah, I got a lot of phone calls off that one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got married? I mean, I don't even. You said you was dating. I. I didn't want to bring. I mean, I knew some things that were going on, but I ain't want to put you on the spot because I didn't want to be messy, because people say I'm messy. So I want to put your business out there in the street. But you've gotten remarried. You got twins. What has it been like becoming a new father for the first time in what, damn near two decades?

[Gary Owen]

Gary, I got a nanny this time. It's easy. It's light. Work with the nanny.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, matter of fact, Gary, you know, I'm glad unk leaded with that question as far as doing something, obviously having older kids like myself and. And starting back over with twins. And I just told.

[Gary Owen]

We.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Not. Not too long ago, Unc and I and Joe as well, we talked about actually having kids again, you know, and. And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. You did. Okay.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, Joe. You. Joe, you said you. Y' all two agree.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We talked about. We talked about a triple marriage. We talk about us. You know, we ain't talking about us having.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay, well, Gary, I'm thinking about having twins. I. I want to know, what do you think about me having twins? You think it's a good move at this point in life, or should I just. Just. Just stick with what I have right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep it real, G. Keep double digits.

[Gary Owen]

Might as well get that even 10.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

See, that's what I'm talking about. That's. And so, wait, one.

[Gary Owen]

One thing.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Obviously, you know how I am. I'm very financially savvy. So what does it look like having a nanny without having to tell me how much it really costs? You know? I mean, like, what.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What do you think I had one before, G. I already know.

[Gary Owen]

It's not. It's not as bad as people think it really. Okay, it's not that bad. Okay, so ours isn't like, living. She's. She gets here at 7am Right? He leaves around 5. So is she there 10 hours? Yeah. Yeah, she's there for 10 hours.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay, that's convenient. That sounds convenient.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Does she. Does she do anything other than nanny? Does she cook? Does she clean? Or is that. She's just the nanny. She just take care of the kids

[Gary Owen]

when you got twins. I mean, she ain't really got time to do much else because everywhere. So she keeps everything in order. When she's not here, we see how important she is. I'll tell you that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right?

[Gary Owen]

She calls in sick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, don't. Don't worry about it. We got some medicine, we got some corn syrup.

[Gary Owen]

That's like the Bengals without Joe Burrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary, let me ask you this, Gary, what was it about the. You getting married? What goes through your mind? Say, hey, you know what I think would be a good idea, babe? We get Ocho to officiate.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Talk to him.

[Gary Owen]

Gary, let me tell you how this all panned out. It was like a 48 hour notice. So when we first decided, yo, we're going to get married, I went to another wedding and I saw Cedric the Entertainer preside over it. I said, that's a good idea because it wasn't stuffy. It wasn't like, you know, God, almost like threatening you. Something like a threat. You know, death do us part. Sickest in health. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. With Cedric, I go, oh, that was funny. So when ours came back, you know, I wanted the groomsmen to be my think like a man castmates. And so I was like, okay, that'll be different. We all hadn't been in the same room since 2014, so everybody signed on. And then when it came to the. The officiant, 50 Cent volunteered. He was like, I want to do it. So I was like, great. So the whole time I was like, 50's doing it. We kept it low key. Tuesday, I get a phone call. I said, oh, this ain't good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This good.

[Gary Owen]

And they said, 50 was filming something in New Jersey. The weather was bad. He didn't want to wait till the last minute and cancel. So he was like, let's scramble. And I'm not gonna lie, OO was the second person I reached out to. I reached out to four people. OO got back the quickest. So I was like, oh, he got it. Because he called me back immediately. I called Matt Rife and then Ocho and then Dion, Cole, and Tommy from Power, Joseph Zakora. In that order was the four people I called Matt, Ocho, Dion and Joseph.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

And hey, you know, hey, you noticed the black guy got back to you Faster, huh? He was the fastest one, huh?

[Gary Owen]

You got back fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know how many people that watch the episode, but you got a very fascinating story. You're from Cincinnati, you go to the military and you like, you know what? I think I could do comedy. And you started going to these open mics as a. As in the military. How did, how did. How did you, like, I want to fight for the country, which is a very noble cause that. You know what, I want to get on stage and tell jokes.

[Gary Owen]

It was, listen, it wasn't about, like, to fight for the country. It was. You grew up in a trailer park right outside of Cincinnati. I knew I wanted to be a stand up. Was like, how do I do it, though? I didn't know how. I thought you started in la, but, like, yeah, who's got the most bases in California? The Navy does. But like, if I join the Navy, they're gonna eventually get me to California. And So I spent two years in the honor guard in D.C. and then the first chance I got to get to San Diego, I went. And that's when I started doing stand up. Like, the whole plan was to get to California and start doing. Because I thought the whole state was la, because I didn't know. I've never been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So were you. Were you funny? So did you prank people? Were you crack cracking jokes? Did the teacher say, Mr. Owen, would you please sit down? Everything is not meant to be a joke. Were you. Did you always have this sense of humor or was it like, nah, I

[Gary Owen]

was class clown, most obnoxious, everything in high school. Hey, yo, me and chad back in 2006. So I moved back to Cincinnati in 2004, somewhere around there. And I met Chad almost immediately. Like, almost the first day I got back for some reason ran into each other. And then I had this Tuesday night in Cincinnati and it was killing. Like, because I knew the. I knew the ball players. Their off day was Tuesday. They didn't have a lot going on. I go, all right, if I can do something on Tuesday night, once the Bengals start coming, then the hoes start coming. We had all the bad chicks in Cincinnati. We had all the Bengals. I was like, and then Chad, I called him in 2006. I called him, I said, yo, he was coming every week. So I was like, let's do Chad Johnson's two Funny Tuesday hosted by Gary Owen. So we did that. That thing was sold out so far in advance. Like that 2006 year when me and Chad did it, it was Packed to the brim. People still talk about that to this day. Back in Cincy that year.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary, what do you say? Because people's like, you know, and. And Cat paid you the ultimate compliment. He said, gary Owens, been in this thing 30 years. And for whatever reason, we know the reason he hadn't, because he hadn't sold him soul to the devil. But a lot of people say, you know what? Gary's really. But it's crossover. It's like when you go to yourself, it's like. It's like a Mardi Gras. It's like. It's like a HBCU convention. Because the black men and women, they love you. How did you. How were you able to garner that crowd? You being a white comedian, you don't choose your audience.

[Gary Owen]

They choose you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I like that.

[Gary Owen]

You know, and my first chance to get on TV was bet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I would have went on Telemundo if I spoke Spanish. You just trying to get on anything.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

My first TV appearance was the Dayton game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Gary Owen]

And it was funny because I was one of the three guys. And we don't know who the girl is. But when we were backstage, the. You know, they do two. Two different segments every episode. So it'd be. There's a guy picks three girls, and then a girl picks three guys, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Gary Owen]

Sweet. Well, obviously it was a white girl picking three white dudes. But when we were in the green room, I saw some black guys. I was like, wait a minute. Are you guys here filming today? They're like, yeah, I went through. Can we switch back other episodes? No, you're a son of this episode. I said, I think I'll be on

[Shannon Sharpe]

the other episode, though.

[Gary Owen]

But my first. That was my first TV appearance was a dating game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do. How do you think Chad did with the wedding? Back to the wedding. I mean, how. How big. How many people did you invite?

[Gary Owen]

We had 170.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Close family, friends and loved ones.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, we had. We had a nice mix of, like, quote unquote, Hollywood. My entertainment friends and then my wife's friends, you know, they're all from Houston. So it was a nice. Nice mix of ratchet with Hollywood.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I'll tell you what. At one point, the liquor start going. It got about 11:30, which is late for the wedding.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

Also, there was a twerk off on the dance floor, and I'm in the middle. So much ass was hitting my legs, I almost tore my acl. It was getting flipped around, like, so much. I was like, one actually go this way. The other one, I was like, yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

hello. Gary, you gotta twerk off at a wedding.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, we got it in. This wasn't a normal wedding, bro. I got roasted. Russell Peters and Lunel went up and roasted me at the reception. It was just. It was just fun, man. And Ocho, what I liked about it? I told him, man, don't stress if you. I want you to mess up. So he messed up a couple times because he said it was dark and he had sunglasses on. I said, I can't read this. It's too dark. But I wanted to be. It was imperfectly perfect. I mean, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He made it his.

[Gary Owen]

So I didn't want, like. I didn't want the preacher to be, like. It was all perfect and rehearsed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Gary Owen]

We didn't want it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So was Ocho late?

[Gary Owen]

No, no, he got there on time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Julian Edelman]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me this man got this?

[Gary Owen]

I said, is he. Here they go. He's already dressed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me.

[Gary Owen]

Let me. Here's what I'm impressed with. The theme was black tux with a black undershirt. We wanted the guys to be in all black. So many guys said they couldn't find a black shirt. How did Chad confirms on Thursday, the wedding Saturday, he had a black tux, black shirt. I go, if he can do it, you guys should have been able to do it. The other guys, like, we just can't find a black shirt. He found it. Hey, no, he came.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He came shirtless. You thought it was a shirt.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You got to understand, I. I take. I take being a officiant. I take it very, very seriously. That was my first one. Hey, Gary. Now my services are open to the public. Right now, I'm starting low. I'm only charging 500 bucks, so. 500 bucks to officiate. And with that package, I can also perform with my little band. I got a mini band down here in Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Yeah. I just.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't want to lie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello, Gary. You say. You. You say. You say the old lady, she.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, thick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been looking to get down there and look around. It's a property. Oh, can you show me. Can you show me around in Houston a little bit?

[Gary Owen]

Yo, she got me. I met her at the gym, you know. You know a little something about that,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shannon, but, God, did you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm saying, hey, hey, how you approach it? Or if you met at the gym, you just walked up to it while she was working. Oh, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You waited.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You waited.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

We.

[Gary Owen]

I told the story at the wedding. I go, I saw her, and she was stretching, and I was like, dang, she's kind of fine. So my roommate, I said, yo, go invite her to a show. So he came back. He goes, man, I got good news and bad news. I said, what's the good news? He goes, she wants to come to the show. I said, what's the bad news? He goes, she don't know who the you are. I said, oh, I gotta be extra funny tonight. You know, we was. We weren't in a place to date then. I was still.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

I was separated, but I was married. And, yeah, yeah, she was. You know, she wasn't ready to settle down, so to speak. She. She had her guard up with me. And then finally, we just always stayed in touch, and then, you know, it just worked out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But hey, hey, hold on. I got one more question. Has she ever dated a white guy before you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Never.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Were you the first?

[Gary Owen]

Always in the last.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like that? You like that? Because we talked about this. You like being the first?

[Gary Owen]

Hey, I don't get those black girls. I never have got the black girls that dated white dudes. I get the ones that like, wow. First time, always, my whole life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, hey, but we. But we. We talked about this, and you said. I think you said on the show that you had only been with one white woman your entire life. Every other woman that you've been with has mainly been basically a black.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Woman of color.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Woman of color. Because, I mean, being from. Hold on. You from Midwest. You say you're from a trailer park outside of Cincinnati. So you're not even really in Cincinnati. You're outside of Cincinnati. Maybe near the Kentucky. The Kentucky border.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

How.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How does a. A redheaded white kid from a trailer park say, you know what? You got Jet magazines pinned to your wall in the trailer, dude.

[Gary Owen]

Let me tell you something. Playing football and sports whenever we played the. The inner city schools.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Everybody else be like, oh, no. I'd be like, oh, yes. Because I knew. I was like, I'm about to ball today.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you better earn you some stripes today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, when you coming to Vegas? You got to show Vegas.

[Gary Owen]

July 17th and 18th at the Venetian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna try to get to that. If I'm in town, I'm coming. What about Atlanta?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

When you come? I know you. You probably be in Atlanta.

[Gary Owen]

Atlanta's October something. The first week of October, that's going to be at the Cobb Energy Center. Yo, I ain't lying, Shannon. Like, I did your show, what, almost two years ago about two years ago, about nine months ago, somehow I got in the algorithms and everything just took off. Like the ticket sales they gave me, they didn't give. I want to say I earned. I got 100 city tour and we're doing all theaters and, and we're selling out everywhere. It's just, it. It just took off. It just took off. I think it was just me peppering all the time doing clips because I made a decision.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you got, you gotta, you got, you got a lot of questions because everybody started asking you about the question about the situation with the eggs and the situation with your kids. And so the thing is, is that you didn't shy away from it, Gary. You talked about it. And once you get into that algorithm.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, every. Everybody's people that don't know didn't. Probably didn't know who you were. Now they get to see you come up on their feed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you get rewarded for being in that algorithm. But also when people mention your name in a negative response, you also in the algorithm.

[Gary Owen]

What's the thing is bad press, I'll tell you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, especially, especially your business because, like, oh, let me see what, Let me see if he really funny. Let me see what's really going on with Gary Owen. If every, if everybody says. Because you hit it out even on Comic, you know, Def Comedy Jam and all the shows early on, there wasn't a whole lot you. Honest John, I think those might have been the only two white guys that I actually saw on. On. On those shows.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, there was one guy named Dante,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think Gabe, I think. I think Fluffy might have been on there.

[Gary Owen]

Fluffy did it once. I think Joe Corey did it once. They. For. For about the first seven, eight years of coming view, it was only like three comics an episode, and there was like 15 episodes, like literally like 40 comics they were choosing from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

Then they stopped making a contest the year I hosted, and they opened it up. That's when they opened up to like 500 comics. And then you got a lot a little more diverse. But in the beginning, it was a contest. People forget that comedy was a contest. And they did that because Def Jam was just like comedians. When BT wanted to do comedy, they said, well, we want. We can't do Def Jam. We got to switch it up a little bit. So we'll make ours a contest. So then when Def Jam went away and I became the host of Comic View, then they went back to just being a comedy show again. It wasn't a contest anymore.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And what you. If I'm not mistaken. You're the first and only white comic to host because some more hosted Said hosted. DL hosted.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I'm the first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who else? I'm trying to think.

[Gary Owen]

I think I'm the first and only white on air personality they've ever had on any show. Because then I had the reality show too on BET

[Shannon Sharpe]

boy. BET Love.

[Gary Owen]

He did?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they did. I think they're gonna. I think. I think since they've been taken over, I don't know how much original content we gonna get. Gary. So it might be all reruns. So you might. You might be still have a couple of episodes still airing. I don't think they gonna do much.

[Gary Owen]

They rerun everything on bt. I think I saw Homeboys in Outer Space.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Gary. I'm thinking about doing a little comedy myself.

[Gary Owen]

Did he just freeze?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he froze.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He did. He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's normally what happened. I asked God every time he tell a lot of freezing. You see what happened, right? Right, Joe? We. Our prayers wouldn't answer.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Gary, I got a question. I seen the viral clip. When Charlamagne asked you had you been faithful your entire imagine you started choking, right? Hold on, hold on. But I also heard you say that that came up in court as you was going through your divorce.

[Gary Owen]

Well, it came up in mediation. We never actually went to court when we got the divorce. We ended up settling. But she brought it up in mediation. She goes, yeah, I saw the clip. And I go, what

[Shannon Sharpe]

did they. Did they play the clip? Because a lot of times you go to mediation, if you say something, they'll play it.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, no, they didn't play it. You know, we were. Once we got to that point, we were pretty cordial. So I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It.

[Gary Owen]

You'll play it if the guy's in denial or she has something to gain. I. I felt like I was very generous in mediation. I think that's a sign of a good divorce. I feel like I paid too much and she'll tell you she didn't get enough. I'm like, right, that lets you know that's a good divorce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing. You say, I'm a comedian. I was just making light of a situation. Of course I was faithful in my marriage.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, right. No, that's why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why when we.

[Gary Owen]

When I got married, when I proposed and everything. Everybody, you're gonna have a bachelor party. I said, I had a bachelor party. My first marriage. I'm good. I don't need another one.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You can hear Me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we got you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I don't know what's wrong. This WI fi keep going in and out.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's God. Answer Joe with our prayers. Go ahead. What you want to ask Gary?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You know, I just started. I just started doing, like, stand up myself. I've been trying to. Trying to tell jokes on here, you know, towards the end of every show, you know, trying to get Netflix to give me a series, give me a comedy special.

[Gary Owen]

Well, I'm the last one you need to ask about Netflix, because they say

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

to me every year, okay, okay, I want to try one of my jokes, and I want to see if you can get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no.

[Gary Owen]

Okay, you ready? Yep.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

What do you call a cow's knee?

[Gary Owen]

What?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

A burger joint.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see, Gary? You see what we got to go through?

[Gary Owen]

Can you. He laughed before he got the punchline.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A burger choice.

[Gary Owen]

Chad, give the joke a chance to breathe.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, I. I could. I could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could. Hey, hey, Gary.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

One day, I promise you, I'm gonna make it big. I'm make it big on stage. Somebody stage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You made it big. You. The NFL.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm talking once. I mean, my second part of life. My second part.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but Ocho, Gary, correct me if I'm wrong, it's just not good enough to be funny. You got to talk about something. You gotta. I mean, the job of a comedian is take real events, be it somewhere else or by themselves, and make them funny. And so to be funny, it's one thing to. Oh, man, that joke is funny. But to get up there and stand in front of 200, 300, 500, a thousand, 2,000 people, and to just keep it going and going and going.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Can I tell you something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I've done that before. I've done that before when Gary hosted. Matter of fact, Gary, you might not. You might. You might not remember this, the improv about Marvin Dixon and Benji Brown used to host down in Coconut.

[Gary Owen]

Tuesday night.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Tuesday nights. Yeah. Tuesday night in the off season.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Whenever the first comic got booed. If you see Marvin Dixon and Benji Brown, ask him who finished the set when the first comment got booed. Every time.

[Gary Owen]

No, you. I remember when you went up one night in Cincinnati. Okay. He had a funny joke, Shannon, because

[Shannon Sharpe]

he goes, oh, he. He get.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He'll get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He'll get. He'll. Out of ten. He'll give you three.

[Gary Owen]

I remember the one he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which one? What was it?

[Gary Owen]

Don't y' all hate it when your Lamborghini breaks down and you can't. Oh, you guys would know nothing about that. Helicopter and the Hilo pads booked up. You can't. Ah, you can't. You don't know about that kind of digging on the audience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so not chat. Y' all see a difference?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

He just playing. He just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he ain't just playing. No. That real.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't find spirit to the wedding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you. Oh, you. What'd you fly, American or United?

[Gary Owen]

He was in 1A.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I knew number in the Buckhead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I can't. I can't do. I can't do. Bulkhead. They have to have a wheelchair.

[Gary Owen]

It was short notice. That was the only first class seat direct that I could get them on, so I was like. I was just happy they had one first class seat available. All right, I got it.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Listen, I'm. I'm. I'm not picky long. As long as you put me in the exit row, I'm good. Good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm not. I'm very. I'm very low maintenance.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where's the honeymoon? Where's the honeymoon? Gary?

[Gary Owen]

We ain't really had one because I'm on tour, so I took a week off of the tour.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, we'll.

[Gary Owen]

We'll figure out this summer. I mean, this summer, she. The tour is going to Australia, New Zealand, and Europe. So.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Wait a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait a minute. So she attacked? So she attacked. Well, I should use the term loosely, tag alone. But she'll be going with you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Wait a minute, hold on, hold on.

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[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

You on tour?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. It's called no feelings.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey, listen. What you think about me opening up for you one night?

[Gary Owen]

All right, that's fine. Be ready. I'll be waiting in the wings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary, all of a sudden, you don't seem overly enthused by that.

[Gary Owen]

Okay, I'll give him a shot. I can give a shot. I'll give you a shot. You want to go up? Yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I like that. I appreciate it. Appreciate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary, when you do you have. Do you have a regular. A person that normally opens up, or do you give. Go to different cities and have different comedians?

[Gary Owen]

No, I got. I got two guys I rotate. So they mean they. They pick their cities and they. They switch up. So they got two guys. I kind of rotate them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, that's. That's awesome.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's cool. That's. That's awesome. So who would you say. Who would you say, like, when you was like, get. Like, you give these guys an opportunity to rotate. Who gave you your first Big break here.

[Gary Owen]

Well, Guy Tory was the first one to put me on stage in la. I would have to say Guy, because he had. He had Fat Tuesdays back in the day on Sunset Strip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I know you love Fat Tuesday, boy. They have.

[Gary Owen]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But go ahead and tell the story.

[Gary Owen]

It's bittersweet because that's where I met my first wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Fat, you remember a place, Gary, called Shark Bar? Come on.

[Gary Owen]

What about the Century Club on Sundays? Remember that?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Oh, wait.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, in la. In la, yeah, Century Club. They had that. When I. Wait, I'm talking about way, way back.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, Century Club. Something special, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I remember that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations on the marriage. Congratulations on the twins. Congratulations on all the success, the tour. No one is more. It's. I don't like to say deserve. You get what you earned. No one has earned this more than you. The time that you put in your a. From what I can tell, I've never really hung around you personally, but from everybody that I've talked to that's in the space that you in, nobody has ever uttered a word negative, even off camera, about Gary Owen. And I think if somebody. If you can find people that can speak positive about you, even when the microphone or the cameras aren't rolling, you've done a good job. You've done a good job.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, well, I just try to treat everybody. I just try to be cool with everybody. That's it. I don't ask.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

No.

[Gary Owen]

I don't ask nothing from him. Just. Just be cool. Chad knows I've been around. Said a lot. I see. I. When Chad was at the top of his game in Cincinnati, when they had Carson Palmer and Hush Manzada and Rudy Johnson and all them. I saw people come to Chad. I was like. I was almost get disgusted at the things they would ask.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Gary Owen]

Okay, let me tell you how disgusting people are real quick. That 2006 season, every week, Chad would draw a name out of a hat and he would leave people two tickets to the home game. And if it was a road game, he'd fly them in and put them up every week. So we had this raffle and he pulled names out. One week, this lady came up first. She came up to me and said, can I talk to Chad? I said, I don't. I'm not going to be the go between.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't even manager.

[Gary Owen]

And then she came up to Chad and said, hey, the. We got tickets. The hotel was great, the flight was great. But yeah, we. It was like 60 bucks for a cab. And I was like, you Gotta be

[Mike Washington Jr.]

me

[Gary Owen]

for the cab fair. I was like, people, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Joe. That's what Joe and I was talking about last week, about somebody being ungrateful. So you get two tickets, you get accommodations, you get, you get a flight to the city, you get accommodations. And you mean to tell me you want the man to give you 60 bucks for, for.

[Gary Owen]

I saw it happen. I saw what happened. I was like, you got to be kidding me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, but when, but when we talk about people. Oh, man, that didn't happen. You over. And guess what, Gary? And this is how the chat operate. Well, chad, you making five, six million dollars, you should have just gave us $60. Not thinking about what you had already done, which you didn't have to do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I was, I wasn't, I was like, damn, Ocho, you give my free tickets to the home.

[Gary Owen]

I was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said no. He was giving out ticket to road games. He would fly them to the city, give them tickets, put them up. And then somebody complained about not getting 60 for dinner. I'm surprised, Ocho. They didn't say you didn't give us a per deal.

[Gary Owen]

Here's our receipt for our beers and our fries. I was so taken back by that. I was, I was, I was disgusted. I was disgusted by it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I go, yeah, but I tell you what, July, you say July 17th, the Venetian.

[Gary Owen]

Yup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm here in Vegas, I'm coming.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, matter of fact, wait, you in? You in Vegas on the 17th of July.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Matter of fact. Hey, Joe, make sure you, you block your calendars. That'll be the show where I open for you.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Hey, Shannon. Joe. I got. He came through for my wedding. I can't say no. Yeah, there's no way I can say no. And I'm be like, if I say no, I'm worse than the sixty dollar people. Gotta let him go up. He did me a solid. He didn't charge nothing for the wedding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, Lord, I, I now, I definitely.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, I got some good material too.

[Gary Owen]

Well, I ain't sell to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give him five minutes and help him. Gary, can you help him for five minutes? Yeah, you can do something. Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I'm good. I'm good in front of crowds. I'm very good in front of crowds. I'm very engaged. And I have, I have something most people don't have. It's called stage presence. I become one with the crowd. I got you.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Gary. Hey, Gary, just in case, have somebody on stand. Oh, yeah, I'm just.

[Gary Owen]

No, no, no, no, no. He's, it's not just gonna be me and Chad. I'm gonna have a mother. He like, sounds like a guy trying to get into porn, dude. We're gonna have this other dude waiting in the wings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mr.

[Gary Owen]

Marketplace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, that's unbelievable, man. Gary, thank you for joining us tonight, man. We appreciate this, man. Tell the family I said hello to the, the new wife, the new kids, man. Congratulations on all the success.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Again, look down the road.

[Gary Owen]

I appreciate you guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, baby.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Congrats, bro. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Very funny, Gary. Owen, man. Hey, he, I mean, you know what? When you funny without trying to be funny, man.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, that's who, hey, that's me. You hear me? Huh? Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Right? That's right up my alley, huh? I don't try to be funny. Sometimes I get on stage and they just start laughing before I even say anything. Well, God damn. Can I tell a joke first? Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just disappointed that at the people that after you did all that wanted.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wasn't tripping. I just gave him $6, you know, out my, out my pocket. I really wasn't tripping. I understood it everyone. Some, some people aren't in a position, you know, where they, you know, you know what I mean? So I kind of, I kind of saw it in that light.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you shouldn't have went. You shouldn't have went. If you're not in a position, if you can't afford a cab fair from the, from the airport to the hotel or the hotel to the game and vice versa, don't go.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I understand, but I don't think, I don't think winning two tickets, being able to go to a bang on game out of town, you know, and your room is already paid for. All you have to do is just check in and go to the game. I, I, I kind of saw from there and not having the fun. So I just gave the six.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ocho, you did this for a full season?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hold on, Joe. We had games, right? We had, we had seasons where I'm sure some people in the chat that have been watching football long enough, we had some games where the games was blacked out, Joe, because they didn't sell enough tickets, Joe. I bought up the rest of the tickets so everybody in Cincinnati could watch the game. I refuse to let our game get blacked out. Do some crazy stuff, boy. Some crazy stuff. Just to make sure them people was entertained, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man, you might, you might be.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. I'm a cool dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. That just go. That just goes to show you, ain't nobody watching the Broncos. They never had no black that day.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

I mean, y'.

[Gary Owen]

All.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Y' all ain't really had no bad days like we had. Now, you gotta understand why when I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I've been trying to tell you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's outstanding. I know. I ain't buying no tickets.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Oh, Joe, we was the last. He was a laughing stock of the league, boy, when I first got there, boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I know what you mean, Ocho. I know. Trust me. I promise you.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Who you played with was that bad?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Atlanta, when I first got it, they had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you first got to Atlanta, hall was terrible.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Before I got. Before I got here, they won nine games. Before I got. Well, when I got here, we win but 29 damn games. Out of 82.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Okay, okay. Out of 82.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know what it. Out of 82. Listen. So, like, I know what it feel like when you walk into the arena I'm talking about. It's empty. We probably had three, 400 people seem, like, in the stand. It was bad. Oh, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you can hear the butt. You can hear the basketball bouncing. Joke.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You can hear more than that. It was bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hear everything. Everybody talking, the conversation.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, it was bad. It's hard to, like, kind of get yourself going. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I done been there, bro.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Damn. Hey, we. We was like, one. We won one game one year. Two games the next year, I think seven one year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that? That before. That's how y' all got cars.

[Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

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