Nightcap Hour 1: Claressa Shields STANDS ON BUSINESS with Unc + Dolphins RELEASE Tua + Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker SIGNS with CHEIFS

Summary

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Nightcap Hour 1: Claressa Shields STANDS ON BUSINESS with Unc + Dolphins RELEASE Tua + Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker SIGNS with CHEIFS

Podcast: Nightcap (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (“Ocho”)
Date: March 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This dynamic episode of Nightcap kicks off with a jam-packed conversation featuring one of the most debated topics in contemporary sports: Claressa Shields, regarded as the best woman boxer of all time, joins Shannon and Ocho to address recent viral comments about defeating male boxing champion Rolly Romero. The tone is lively, direct, and often hilarious, as the trio debates boxing skill, gender dynamics in sports, and personal slights versus professional opinion.

The second hour pivots to major NFL off-season news, especially the Miami Dolphins’ headline-making decision to release quarterback Tua Tagovailoa and the Kansas City Chiefs' addition of Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker III. As always, Shannon and Ocho provide their unfiltered takes, packed with honesty, expertise, and plenty of quotables.

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Main Segments & Timestamps

• [06:09] Show Tease & NFL Offseason Moves
• [09:53] Guest Intro: Claressa Shields
• [10:56] Viral Clip: Claressa Shields Talks Beating Rolly Romero
• [24:41] Shields Responds to Past Sparring Knockdown
• [27:17] Shields vs. Rolly: Could Shields Beat a Male Champ?
• [41:02] Debate: Athletes Taking Opinions Personally
• [47:03] Claressa Shields Challenges Ocho to Spar
• [50:06] Shields vs. Chris Cyborg Discussion
• [69:55] Dolphins Release Tua; NFL Quarterback Dilemmas
• [74:49] Miami Signs Malik Willis; NFL Offense Fits
• [78:47] Chiefs Sign Kenneth Walker III; NFL Roster Moves

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Section 1: Claressa Shields Addresses the "Beating a Man" Controversy

[09:53] Guest Intro & Setting the Stage

• Shannon introduces Claressa Shields: "A two time Olympic gold medalist, a three time undisputed champ, the undisputed heavyweight champion, a five division world champion with a perfect record of 18 and 0, 3 KOs. And here she is, the greatest woman's boxer of all time, Ms. Clarissa Shields."
• Ocho expresses excitement: “I think the mentality and belief that she feels she can be the individual is why she's regarded as the greatest of all time.”

[10:56] The Viral Clip & Claressa's Defense

• Clip Recap: Shields asserts she could outbox Rolly Romero, citing her reach, size, and technical skill despite him being a male world champ.
  • “I’ll be Rolly… I’m way taller than him, way longer than him, and got better boxing skills.” – Claressa ([11:01])
  • Shields: “It’s hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that’s bigger...I walk around at 185, he fights at 140.”
• Clarification: Shields explains her claim was about boxing skill, not raw power:
  • "I didn’t say I'm gonna go in there and knock Rolly out. I said I can outbox him. I’ve outboxed plenty of men who are professional boxers inside the ring...You cannot speak doubt into my skills and what I...And what I can do." ([12:07])
• Sparring Experience: Shields describes training and sparring exclusively with male pros for over 20 years, debating that real, competitive sparring mirrors fight conditions. ([13:38])

[14:15] Pushback from Shannon & Ocho

• Shannon: “It’s hard for me to believe that...if you spar Shakur and Keyshawn Davis...they’re going in there as if they’re getting ready to fight a Tank Davis or a Ryan Garcia...” ([14:15])
• Shields stands firm, referencing her preparation and history: "I've sparred grown men since I was 14...Being born in Flint, Michigan, you born in Flint, Michigan...I've lived through that." ([16:01])

[22:13] Shields Shares Sparring Footage

• Shields provides detailed breakdown of sparring sessions with pros weighing 170+ lbs:
  • "This dude 175 pounds, punching with all type...he came out there firing...I can stand my ground. He throwing punches. I got great defense, great jab." ([22:13])
• Shannon: “You do understand amateurs is different than pros...Rolly is a world champion, a three division world champ.” ([22:40])

[24:41] Sparring Mishaps & Addressing the Knockdown Narrative

• Shields details the 2018 incident where she was dropped by a man who, she claims, had illegal gloves with no padding, and how she learned to always check equipment after.
  • “That dude, I had whooped him the week before. He was mad…his coach gave him some worn glove...with zero to no padding...” ([24:41])
• Shields: “...That was back in 2018. We in 2026. And they can’t bring up nothing else that's flawed in my career...” ([26:06])

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Section 2: Lively Debate – Could Shields Really Beat Rolly Romero?

[27:17] The Direct Debate

• Ocho: “I understand your defensive skills...But if he was to catch you because he can crack...do you think he would knock you out if he was to catch you?”

• Shields: “Nah. But can I ask you something? Since when has one punch knocked out everybody?” ([28:10])

• Shannon: “I think any guy that has a championship belt, if he catches you on your chin, you go into sleep.” ([28:37])

• Shields: “You are nuts...When you don’t know boxing, you just don’t know boxing.” ([30:03])

[31:08] Skill vs. Power – The Core Argument

• Shields:

  • “I am telling you, skill to skill…You are not looking at skill to skill, man. You’re just not. Because you can’t...You too macho macho.” ([31:08–31:36])

• Shannon:

  • "Do you believe Clarissa could beat him in a fight? In a sanctioned fight, a 12 round fight with 10 ounce gloves?" ([31:51])
  • Ocho: “Are you going to be able to protect yourself in a 10 round fight and not get caught?” ([32:07])
  • Shields: “In exchange, you tuck your chin and keep your hands up. ...I’m going to Rolly's body.” ([32:15])

• On the limits of sparring:

  • Shields: “That’s the only way we can fight...You never seen a woman vs. a man in a real fight.” ([29:21–29:26])

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Section 3: Memorable Moments, Quotes, and Personal Dynamics

[41:02] Taking It Personal – Where Opinion Ends, Ego Begins

• Shields:
  • “Boxing I do take personally because that is my job, that's my livelihood... Anything you say about me up in boxing, I take personally because that is my life.” ([41:02])
  • “You said my boxing...Clarissa can’t do this, boxing this, boxing that. ...Because boxing is all that I am.” ([43:09])
• Shannon:
  • “If somebody says, you know, look, I think Shannon's a phenomenal tight end, but he just don’t block...That is someone's opinion. I offered an opinion. That's it.” ([42:35])

[47:03] The “Nightcap Spar” – Shields vs. Ocho

• The mood lightens as Ocho playfully challenges Shields to sparring, and they set up a hypothetical match for April.
• Shields: “I would love to see what he think about me inside the ring...I can guarantee him, like, man, uncle, we better watch what you say about that damn girl, because that girl be swinging.” ([47:03])
• Playful bantering about age, head movement, and stamina ensues, with Ocho wanting “doghouse rules.”
• Ocho: “You know what they call me in the gym?...Hella hands”
• Shields: “Are you sure you want to get in the ring with me?”
• Both agree to a future sparring session.

[50:06] Shields on Chris Cyborg & Clout Chasing

• Shields on Chris Cyborg: “She’s a bum. ...She cannot box to save her life. She’s a clout chaser...” ([50:06])
• Shields recounts an abandoned exhibition idea and trashes Cyborg for refusing a fair weight class or a real fight.
  • “She want me to come all the way down to 147...No, ma’am...If she really want to fight, she can meet me up at 165. I would knock her ass out easy.” ([50:16])

[53:24] Ocho Asks to Officiate Shields’ Wedding

• Ocho (joking): “When you and Papoose decide to jump the broom, allow me to officiate your wedding.”
• Shields: “We have such a long line...everybody wants to officiate our wedding.”
• The segment ends with laughter about who gets the honor.

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Section 4: NFL Offseason Mayhem – Tua Released, Willis & Walker Signed

[69:55] Dolphins Release Tua Tagovailoa

• Shannon:
  • “The Dolphins are releasing Tua...Miami would rather pay $99 million than have Tua on the team.”
  • "It’s like a relationship...You know it’s over...So, they know this, nothing gonna change. You keep the ring, we’re moving on." ([69:55–71:25])
• Ocho:
  • “Obviously...the stuff with Tua, things weren't going right…At some point, they were looking forward to moving on from him.” ([69:55])
  • “I wish my 'uso' the best down there in Atlanta. ...Is this the first time...there’ve been two left handed quarterbacks?” ([73:21])

[74:49] Miami Signs Malik Willis

• Shannon: “After releasing Tua, the Dolphins agreed to a contract with Malik Willis: three years, $67.5 million.” ([74:49])
• Ocho’s reaction: “You goddamn right I’m excited. He got a bad rap...He looks phenomenal [last season for Green Bay].”
  • “We need another weapon to go with Jaylen Waddle. ...And I think we’ll be fine offensively. ...If we can get another guy to add...we’ll be straight.” ([76:02–77:26])

[78:47] Chiefs Sign Kenneth Walker III (Super Bowl MVP)

• Shannon:

  • “The Kansas City Chiefs are signing former Super Bowl MVP Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III to a three-year deal worth up to $45 million...Walker coming off arguably his best season, earning MVP honors in the Super Bowl.” ([78:47])

• Ocho:

  • “I absolutely do like it. ...I was upset that the Chiefs didn’t do what they needed to do to bring in a running back last season. ...But they still need help...at other positions too.” ([79:46–81:06])

• Shannon:

  • “When you have a great quarterback...you think maybe average or below average at certain positions because our QB is so great. Well, finally, it caught up.” ([81:20])
  • “Those great quarterbacks...they are great makeup and they can hide imperfections. ...And Kansas City realized that because all of a sudden, Mahomes could not cover up those blemishes...” ([86:07])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Shields (on belief):
  • “The way I believe in myself, it’s not to intimidate you, but that’s what greats have to do…I am a great…Proper preparation prevents poor performance.” ([35:09])
• Ocho (on greatness):
  • “The mindset she has, even having the belief she can win, is the main reason she is great at what she does. At times you have to be delusional…me being delusional at times is one of the reasons why I was great.” ([67:12])
• Shannon (on football & boxing):
  • "Skill to skill, you’re not looking at skill to skill, man. You just can’t. You too macho macho." ([31:08])
• Shields (on Cyborg):
  • “Chris Cyborg cannot box and she know that. She says my name because she’s not relevant no more. She’s a loser.” ([50:16])
• Ocho/Clarissa Banter (on Sparring):
  • Ocho: “You know what they call me in the gym? Hella hands.” ([48:48])
  • Shields: “If you sure you want to get in the ring with me?...I’m fast as lightning, baby.” ([47:03])

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Final Thoughts

This episode masterfully blends serious analysis with lighthearted sparring—both verbal and hypothetical physical—delivering entertainment while offering real insight into elite athlete mentality. Claressa Shields’ appearance is riveting, as she fiercely defends her legacy and vision. Shannon and Ocho hold their ground, challenge her claims, and generate both tension and laughter along the way. The NFL news sections are incisive and relatable, using strong sports analogies to illustrate the business side of football.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [09:53] – Claressa Shields guest intro and opening context
• [10:56] – Viral Rolly fight comment and Shields' defense
• [22:13] – Shields shares sparring evidence with pro men
• [27:17] – Main debate: Could Shields beat Rolly in a real fight?
• [41:02] – On taking criticism personally in sports
• [47:03] – Ocho challenges Shields to a sparring match
• [50:06] – Chris Cyborg: “She’s a bum...She cannot box.”
• [69:55] – NFL: Dolphins release Tua analysis
• [74:49] – Malik Willis to Miami: good fit?
• [78:47] – Chiefs sign Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker III

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This summary captures the unfiltered debates, behind-the-scenes context, and the authentic personalities that make Nightcap a must-listen. Whether you’re here for boxing, NFL moves, or just the high-level banter, you’ll walk away with insight into the mindset of champions and the calculated risks of pro sports franchises.

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[F]

I'm excited. I'm excited. Hey, there are a few teams like you did say that, that, that have gotten good. I wouldn't say anybody's gotten bad yet. We still have a few days ago. We have the draft coming up and I'm sure more offseason acquisitions are going to happen before the show even starts. I just want to say I'm very pleased with day one from the Raiders and the Bengals. I'll get into that and add a little more depth into it. I'm, I'm really excited. What I'm really excited for is for Michelle to be on tonight. I'm excited for to be on tonight, especially to hear her side, to hear the way she thinks, the, the way she operates and again, I think the mentality and the belief that she feels she can be the individual is why she's regarded as the greatest of all time. So I'm excited to hear what she has to say. Me both, you and I, we're in the same, same position. You know, on her beating a guy, it's not happening. Regardless of how bad he is.

[E]

It's going to be interesting because I, I'm sure she has her, her, you know, her stance and you know, you know, I, I think on some levels it got a little personal today. But look, we're here to clear it up. The thing is that when we say something on this show, if you agree or disagree with it, it's never personal with OO and I. For me, I'm, I'm giving you my opinion. It doesn't make me right, it doesn't make me a wrong. But I'm not talking about you as a, as an individual. I'm not talking about anything that, that you have done outside of your sport. That's neither here nor there. We're judging you on, based on what you've done, be it on the football field, the basketball court, the diamond, the track, whatever the case may be, whatever your sport is and whatever arena you play in. I'm basing that, I'm basing my opinion, this is my opinion that on that, that's it. And so I'm interested to see, I'm really anxious to see what she has to say. There's been a lot that's been, it's been talked about ad nauseam and, and after tonight, oh, I'm going to be done with this subject. I'm going to be done with this topic because it's a never ending topic. I mean, your mic, your mic on.

[F]

You can't hear me?

[E]

I think you might be going, are you coming through the computer? Your actual mic. You see, it's away from you. The mic that you normally have. Yeah, hold on.

[F]

Hey, hey, hold on. I'm, I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm make sure my computer got enough juice for me to unplug because that's what, that's what happened the first time.

[E]

Just leave it plugged up. Ain't nobody there using a computer. The computer plugged up so it won't be drained.

[F]

Oh, no, I, I know what I'm saying. But I was sleeping all this time and I came down. You notice I popped on when I popped on and it turned off.

[E]

Leave the computer plugged up.

[F]

I know, but I need, I need a slot, I need a slot on the side to put this Back in

[E]

and what I'm saying. So why can't you leave the computer plugged up overnight or during the day?

[F]

Explain that it was plugged into the light.

[E]

What light? You don't use the light. You're not down there.

[F]

The light is on right now. Look, hold on. Look.

[E]

So you only. So you only got one thing. Control the light, control the computer, control the microphone.

[F]

Yeah, because listen, if I have multiple. If I have multiple things plugged in the outlets, that increases my electricity.

[E]

But you understand that this is for your job. It's like saying I only have one pair of khakis and this got dirty. And so I'm not gonna be able to come to work tomorrow because if I buy more than one pair of khakis, that means that increase my bill.

[F]

Now I'm gonna just wear the dirty one.

[E]

Okay, but just. How about. How about just getting a couple of more cords so we can have this and we won't run into this problem.

[F]

We had one. Come on, man.

[E]

It's okay. Ocho, this is. I mean, you do realize this is for your job,

[F]

huh?

[E]

Oh, Lord have mercy. All right, here are very special guests. A two time Olympic gold medalist, a three time undisputed champ, the undisputed heavyweight champion, a five division world champion with a perfect record of 18 and 0.3Kos. And. And here she is, the greatest woman's boxer of all time, Ms. Clarissa Shields. Clarissa, how you doing this afternoon? Well, tonight I'm doing good.

[C]

How you.

[E]

I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Okay, this all started, I think you did a. You did a podcast with Justin Leboy. We want to play the clip. We go sit.

[C]

Months, months ago. Go ahead.

[E]

So he just. So, yo. Okay. He just released it. You taped it earlier.

[C]

It's there. It's been. It's been released too. I don't know why it's viral right now, but.

[E]

Okay, play the clip that everybody is talking about. Can we. Can we roll that clip? Hold on.

[F]

That you believe you can.

[C]

I'll be Rolly. He's a world champion. Rolly Ramirez. Listen, it's not about. I think Rolly is very unorthodox. He's very strong. Right, But I'm way taller than him, way longer than him, and got better boxing skills.

[E]

How about one of his punches, though?

[C]

Did you not hear what I said? It's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger. I walk around at 185, he fights at 140. Or is it 47?

[F]

It's 140 he said 140, 147.

[C]

But I'm just saying though, like, when you. And then like, with his skill set, he can't be.

[E]

So that's. That's where it came from. You said that you could be the three division world champion, lightweight, super lightweight and welterweight. Take it away.

[C]

He just became what to. Wait, who did he fight against for that 47 belt? I can't remember who he beat for that 47 belt. Was it Ryan Garcia?

[E]

Hold on, I. I just. Let me see. Recognizing the champ, if it wasn't Ryan,

[F]

it was the old. It was the older guy. It was the older guy, but it was the stoppage.

[C]

It's not the Mexican that really beat him, but they gave him the.

[F]

Yeah, they stopped. They stopped the fight too fast.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy was beating him. I know the older guy. He's like 40 something years old.

[F]

46.

[C]

Somewhere in there. So this is my thing, and this is why I'm so happy that. So I want you to know something. I've been sparring against boys and men for 20 years. That's two decades of boxing. I didn't say I'm gonna go in there and knock Rolly out. I didn't say I can overpower him. I said I can outbox him. I've outboxed plenty of men who are professional boxers inside the ring. Yes, sparring is not a real fight of sparring, but boxing is not MMA sparring. MMA sparring is 60% 70. Most of the time up in sparring, especially sparring against a guy and he got his girlfriend in the gym, his wife in the gym, his kids in the gym. He not going to let no woman get off on him. I get off on men and piece them up and spawn. Re, re, re. Respectfully with their women and with their kids there. Because I'm a very serious boxer. You cannot speak doubt into my skills and what I. And what I can do. Shannon, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't do that because you got to really be in the gym. I have. I sparred over a hundred rounds for this fight against franchise. Watched her. I sparred all men. I had two different sparring partners. 10 rounds twice a week. That's 20. That's 20 rounds. Two different men. Foot. I don't know, eight, 10 weeks straight. I sparred over 100 rounds. These guys are pros.

[F]

The.

[C]

The spawn partner I had was 170 pounds. One was 173 pounds. I'm scoring against these guys to get ready for my world Championship fight against franchise, who's a decorated amateur, decorated pro. So you cannot tell. First of all, I know I can beat up Rolly. He knows that. He knows that. And it's not a thing of like, Like, I'm not. If we just compare and skill. Just because somebody is stronger don't mean that they can win a no fight. That's not how it works. I promise you, it's not. But it's not how it works. That's not how boxing works.

[E]

Okay, you do understand he is a three division champions. Three quarters of his fight has ended by ko. So he has dynamite. You're. You've never. And it's hard for me to believe that if you spar Shakur and Keyshawn Davis and some of the people, they're going in there inspiring you as if they were getting ready to fight a Tank Davis or a Ryan Garcia. It's hard for me to believe that. I'm not saying that that's not true, but it's just hard for me to believe. And you do realize once you challenge a man, manhood, like you challenge Rolly, he's gonna look to destroy you. He gonna look to hurt you. Clarissa, I'm just being honest.

[C]

This is what, this is what happens in sporing the same thing. Listen, let me show you something. Because I, I, I've been, I've been waiting. I've been waiting for y' all to call today. People thought I was gonna be mad about what you said. Like, that's your opinion. Nothing is actually true until it's done. You know what I'm saying? Until it actually happens. Let me find this. Why is it not.

[E]

Hold on.

[C]

Give me a second. I just had up here. I'm on the page. Yeah, the.

[E]

I mean, but see, the thing is, Carissa, I think the thing is, is that our opinion I might do. Look, there might be an actor that's phenomenal, but I might not like him in movies. There might be an actress that's phenomenal. She's won a Academy Awards, but I might not like her in movie. That doesn't mean she's not a great actor or actress. I think you took what I said.

[C]

I want you to. No, I want you to understand that I, I don't, I don't take that, what you saying as like a diss to me, because I know I'm the greatest woman of all time, the best female fighter right now. Like, I understand that. But what I'm trying to tell you is this is not. This is a sport. And Sport has no gender, you understand.

[E]

It actually does, though.

[C]

Well, I mean, sport is equal, man. If, If. Listen, you can have a twin brother and a twin sister, right? They go in the gym and they work out every single day together. They got the same coach. I can guarantee you if. If the boy slack and the girl works harder, the boys play around. I can guarantee. I can guarantee you the girl's gonna be. Is gonna be a better fighter. And I can say that because I've. I've lived through that. I've been in the gym with guys who were in the gym since they were six. I started when I was 11. Within six months, I was born against a guy that was there four years already practicing and sparring two months in the gym. He want to slack off and play around. I kicked his ass. And I was the best in my gym till I was probably about like 15. I didn't get my ass whooped in the gym by a man until I was 16 years old. And that's like, where I'm like, dang, this guy really got off on me, like every day. Not going to be a good day in the gym. But when I was in the gym sparring against. I sparred against grown men since I was 15, 14 years old. Grown men who 26, 28, 30 years old. And you have to remember, like you said, oh, you challenge a man's manhood, you gotta know when I'm back then nobody. We in the gym, we all working hard, we all sweating. And when it comes to sparring, you hit somebody in their face, you buckle them, you hurt they, you hit them in the stomach, they are going to hit you back. Being born in Flint, Michigan, you born in Flint, Michigan. Did you watch the biopic the Fire Inside? I just gotta know, did you watch? So you know that I've literally lived this. I've sparred men my entire career. And I just wanna everybody like to cut they sparring in half and show you certain stuff. This is back in 2023. This is just a full round. I don't even show this stuff. I don't even show this stuff. As you can see, I'm the one in the white and black. Did you see that? I don't know if it's good enough for y'.

[E]

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[C]

This dude 175 pounds, punching with all type. I think it's like round, round three or two. He came out there firing. As you can see, I can stand my ground. He throwing punches. I got great defense, great jab. He trying to come. I hit him with some shots. He tried to come back. Moving my head. I'm gonna let you watch the whole round. Just enjoy the. Just enjoy the two minutes.

[E]

But Clarissa, you do understand amateurs is different than pros. There have been guys that. There's some guys that the amateur, they're not, they weren't very good. But in the pros of the different level because in the amateur of the point system and the others are trying to get you up out of there, those are amateurs. Rolly is a world champion, a three division world champ.

[C]

This is a pro. This is a professional fighter. My last guys I sparred were professional fighters. I've Been inside the ring and sparred with Shakur. I'll spar. Kishan Davis. I'll spar. Anthony Durrell. I sp. Andre Dell. I sparred. Who is this? One of the guys that fought against Charlo. This what I'm telling you, when it comes to getting good work, I'm. I'm not. I'm trying to get good work. I wouldn't even get inside the ring with a man who, like, oh, I'm not going to hear her because she's a girl. Well, get the out of here then, because I am here to work. And I feel like if somebody not supposed to be in the ring with you, you get him out of there. I've never got in the ring with a man, and he was like, I. I got in there, and she didn't deserve to be in the ring with me because I was just that much better than her. It has never happened. It's never happened. I'm sorry.

[E]

We have rolling. We have Rolly response to you. Did you see what Rollie said? We got the sound.

[C]

Rollie love me. He said he's not going to hit me back or something like that.

[E]

We gonna play the sound. Okay. We him better boxing skills than him, and I'm bigger than him.

[F]

I'm just.

[E]

Just your thoughts. When you.

[D]

You saw that clip, what did you

[E]

think when you saw that?

[F]

I believe her. I believe she can beat me. Yeah. She'll knock me out. I don't hit women.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

I understand that.

[C]

So with that answer being, listen, I'm not afraid to get inside the ring and spar against a man. I never have been. And I think people love to bring up this clip where I got dropped in 20. Was it 18 by this guy? I didn't get knocked out. I got dropped.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

And plenty of guys get dropped.

[E]

Is that the guy that Rollies dropped, that knocked out?

[C]

That's the guy who Rollie knocked out? Absolutely. Rollie knocked him out around 2019. But this is what you have to understand. That guy is a cheat. He didn't have no padding in his gloves. And if it. And if it's not true, why him and him and the coach haven't sued me yet? That dude, I had whooped him the week before. He was mad. He didn't like it. I'm a black African American female. They don't value women in his country, and they definitely don't value no damn black woman. His coach gave him some worn glove that he said he got from Roberto Durant as a gift this is what the man said. Derek Santos, the coach. The gloves had zero to no padding in them. And he caught me with that hook when we. When we spark. Because he wanted revenge on the week before when I tapped his ass. Now this is the thing, right? He sparred me and another guy the same day. Anytime I go to the gym and I'm sparring rounds, getting ready for a world championship fight, I sparked two different men. I always done that. I have. I. I'm always the one standing in the ring, staying, staying fresh. He sparred that same guy, and I was standing there confused. It's my first time ever getting dropped. Been boxing for. Since I was 11 years old. I've never been dropped before. So I'm curious on how this dude dropped me, right? So I'm watching him and his dude named Harold, Harold Kadarin spar right after me and him got done. I'm watching them spar, and Harold said, you weren't hitting like that last week. And I looked and I said, what the you mean by that? When he got done. When I got done sparring, I walked to him and said, hey, man, good work. I hit his glove, and I can tell you it was no padding in there. My coach, Coach John David Jackson was there. Derek Santos was there. Derek Santos, he grabbed the gloves off of the dude hands and stuck them in a Ziploc book bag and walked off. I literally ran to my car and everybody know what I did. Everybody know when I ran what I ran to my car to go do. But I learned the valuable lesson. When you sparring against anybody, check their gloves. I never was aware of that before, but that was back in 20, 2018. We in 2026. And they can't bring up nothing else that's flawed in my career. But that knockdown and then the knockdown with Hannah Gabriels came a couple days after that when I fought her in the first round. I still won that fight unanimously. But I've never been dropped before that and never have been dropped after that moments.

[F]

Hey, I have a question. Yeah, I have a question. Right. You. Obviously, I. I talked about it last night, about your skill in. In the ring, obviously being more of a pure boxer, being a little bit more polished, you know, than Rollie is. Whether it's fighting on the inside, whether it's fighting at mid range or whether it's fighting that distance. I understand what you're gonna do. I understand your defensive.

[C]

You understand boxing. Uncle. Uncle. Uncle Shannon don't understand boxing.

[E]

For real? Yep. Yeah.

[F]

But. But what I. What I did. What I did say is, is I'm. I'm thinking of if. Just hypothetically speaking, if you did fight Rollie, understanding that he can crack, understanding that his boxing skills and his pedigree is. Is not what yours is. Understanding that. But in a fight, when you obviously have to be cautious, if he was to catch you because he can crack, I mean, do you. Do you think he would knock you out if he was to catch you?

[C]

Nah. But can I ask you something?

[F]

Talk to me.

[C]

Since when have one punch? Who is it that box right now? Because you box. Who is it right now? That's a man that if he hit you one time with a. With. With a good shot, you. You going to sleep. Who is it? Is it Shakur? Is it. Is it Keyshawn? Is it. Is it Terrence? Who can catch you with one shot? Ocho and you. And it's night night for you.

[E]

I think it round one. Me personally. Round one. Ocho, to answer her question. I think any guy that has a championship have a championship belt, if he catch. If he catches you on your chin, you go into sleep.

[C]

Uncle. Uncle Shannon, we know why you. Why you saying this? You are macho. Macho football. Football strength and strength. But. But that's. That's not going. That's not going to happen because I've been hit on my chin. I've been hit in my stomach. I've been hit by professional. We sparring. When.

[E]

When have I ever gotten in the original thing. You didn't say sparring. You said, you can beat Rolly. It wasn't until later that you said sparring. So the question is not.

[C]

Well, that's the only way that we can fight, is it? If it's a sparring. When have you seen a woman versus a man? I. I haven't seen.

[E]

So what do we talk? You. You said you could beat rolling Holy. In a fight, not sparring. Sparring came along later. We played the clip and we need to replay the clip.

[C]

So you talking about up in a real fight?

[F]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

You said you walked around.

[C]

So you saying that if it's money and belt on the line and I got me a two or three month camp, you telling me that Rolly gonna knock me out?

[E]

Up.

[C]

Up in what round?

[E]

Rolly gonna beat you? Yes. Yes. Rolly would stop you? Yes. Rolly would stop you. Yes, I believe Rolly would stop you.

[C]

You are nuts. But I. But I love that for you because when you don't know boxing, you just don't know boxing. That will and you don't know me that well. But I will say this. I've never went inside the ring with anybody in business.

[E]

Can I ask you a question, Clarissa?

[C]

You go my chin hit me right? Come on now. Did you not see the defense in the offense in my last fight?

[E]

Can I ask you a question, Clarissa?

[C]

Can you answer the question? Did you not see the offense and

[E]

defense that was against fr. This is Rolly a three division champ.

[C]

Listen, guys that really know how to box, I would tell you that they can do what they can do, that they better boxers or skilled or powerful, whatever they mean you.

[E]

Rolly is not carissa. Even at 1. Even 180 and he walks around. Let's just say for the sake of argument, if he's making weight at 147, I'm saying he's probably walking around at 160, 165. I'm gonna be generous and say he's gripping 14, between 15 and 20 pounds off. Even at 1:55, 165, his body still produces more testosterone as yours his.

[C]

Nobody, nobody ever said I was stronger than Rollie. I never said that. You said that. I am telling you off of pure boxing. Look, Deontay Wilder have 41 knockouts. He getting there with a. With a pure boxer like Tyson Fury and lose. This is men to men. But I am telling you, skill to skill. Skill to skill. You not. You are not looking at skill to skill, man. You're just not. Because you can't. Because you. Because you too macho. Macho.

[E]

But you're looking at rolling. You looking at Rolly like he's not skilled. You looking at Rollies like he's not skilled.

[C]

I am telling you that Rolly is skilled. He not better skilled than me. And Ojo even just told you that. Oh, just told you that.

[E]

So I'm gonna ask. Ocho just told you that. So he's not as skilled as Clarissa. Do you believe Clarissa can beat him in a fight? In a sanctioned fight, a 12 round fight with 10 ounce gloves. Do you believe Clarissa could beat him?

[F]

That's why. That's what I explained in my first. When I first said it. Are you going to be. Are you going to be able to protect yourself in a 10 round fight and not get. Not get caught?

[C]

In exchange you is tuck your chin and keep your hands up. What are we talking? I'm gonna go in there. Oh. I'm gonna go power for power with Rolly. I'm. Man, come on. You've seen the jab in the fight. You've seen the head movement, you've seen the body work. And any, anybody I know, when you fight against somebody that strong, you hit him where the body. I'm going to roll's body.

[E]

Earl, where you think he's gonna hit you? Let me ask you a question. Where do you think he's gonna hit you?

[C]

Everybody gets hit.

[E]

But have you. But you've never been hit by a man without headgear.

[C]

Why would I have to hit with a man with. Without.

[E]

It's gonna be a fight. You said, you said if you got two to three months to fight, you could take Roly out in the.

[C]

What can happen with or without headgear versus a man? Because I never did that with the men. I've only sparred with it. Just like a man can tell you he's never been hit by a woman without headgear. Because they don't spar us without head gear either.

[E]

Normally, men don't. First of all, I. It's hard for me to believe that Keshan Davis are getting ready or these elite fighters are getting ready for another elite fighter. They're going to bring a woman into spar. It's just. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen or it hasn't happened. It's just hard for me to believe that Manny Pacquiao is getting ready to spar, getting ready for these great fighters and he's sparring a woman. It's just hard for me to believe.

[C]

No, listen, it's hard for you to believe because it's only one Clarissa Shields. A lot of these women cannot spar against men and get ready for no fights. They spawn against other women. I cannot do that. I watch every woman who I spar. Every woman who I work out with, I watch them. I am advanced. I've been doing this for 20 years and I grew up in a gym with nothing but boys and men sparring them. Listen, the. The truth hurts. And I. And what I think that hurts for you is to know that I'm a pure boxer and I know how to box very well. It's not. I don't fight like a girl. I know how to box.

[E]

I know that you don't, but I don't understand why I would be upset. I want you to win. I've spoken in glowing terms and saying you the best, but I just don't believe that you're going to be. You're going to be a three division champ. That's 147 in a fight. I just don't.

[F]

Yeah, and you know, you know what? Also you can have that belief.

[C]

And, and that's okay. It's not another wrong.

[F]

This is also what I also want to say. And I. I kept saying it last night and I've regurgitated it over and over and over. When it comes to you being the greatest at what you do, it's really the mentality you have right now, the belief that. That I can do it. Whether we believe you can or not. For me, you getting in there with. With the. With the actual fighter, the weight division champ, and me understanding you, him not being a pure boxer and all that, I just understand the dangers behind it. I understand the danger behind it, especially in a ten round fight. And there's no goddamn headgear.

[C]

Yeah, you gotta watch your ass too.

[F]

Yeah, you got to be goddamn cautious. But I think the fact that you even believe it, whether we think you can win or fuck or not, this is why you are the best at what you do.

[C]

But that's what I. And now that we're speaking on it, I think I tweeted and I said the way how I believe in myself, it is not to intimidate you, but that is what greats have to do. And I am a great. I've been great for a long time. And I. And I know what I can and what I cannot do. And what I would tell you is proper preparation prevents poor performance. If I go and I watch film on Roly and I go and I die and I go and I really dissect them and see what he do good and what he do bad. I'm telling you, I know that my skill can be the most. If I really did my homework and. And really had to sit there with it and prepare. I'm going to go and spar against Keyshawn Davis. I'm have to call up tfimo. I'm at the coffee court. Hey, y', all, come, come help me get ready. I have to call Terence Crawford. Hey, y' all help me get ready. And I guarantee you, if I. If I done that, which I would. Because that's how professionals and that's how fighters and champions think with them helping me prepare and then me having a. Uncle. Uncle Shannon said a sanctioned fight with Rolly. I'm sorry, you guys, but the truth is in the pudding. And that I will win.

[E]

But. Well, help me understand this. What does my hips have to do with anything? Because. Because if I ask you, could you run a go route? Could you run a square in? Could you brock a seven technique and overfront. Would you know what to do? If they brought two off your side and you in the slot, what would you do?

[C]

Football or talking about football.

[E]

If they brought two off your slide and you to slot, what would you do?

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[E]

But now but see you took a shot at me talking about I couldn't throw a punch. I I'm not a boxer.

[C]

You told me a dude can knock me out.

[E]

That is my opinion. You took me but see you took a personal shot because I gave I didn't take a personal shot at you.

[C]

See see this where y' all get it wrong at this Y' all get it wrong at boxing I do take personally because that is my job, that's my livelihood and that's all that I do boxing. Anything you say about me up in boxing I take personally because that is my life. I don't have another life out outside of box.

[E]

Let me ask you a Question. So you are above reproach. Nobody can have an opinion about you.

[C]

No, you can have.

[E]

Why you get upset if I got an opinion?

[C]

I didn't get upset. I still came on here and talked to you.

[E]

But you took a personal shot in your tweet. Shakur took a personal shot. He took a personal shot because after the Teofimo fight, Ocho. And I said, ocho. I said, he fabulous. He was sensational tonight. I had him taken all around, but

[C]

he didn't get the knockout.

[E]

I said, but his fights don't excite me, and I wouldn't spend no money.

[C]

Oh, yeah, but see, there again, see, this is what I want you guys to realize, and I've spoken this to the guys who I'm cool with, and even, like, some of the commentators, y' all say stuff like that, and other people. And then it could affect other people. Like, you saying that can make other people be like, I'm not going to spend my money to go and see Shakur fight. He can take that very offensive because you do have a big platform and people do love Uncle Shannon. You know what I'm saying? So he can take that per. He can take that personally. But it's like, I think you just should have said it don't. It don't excite me. But then when you like, oh, it don't excite me, and I ain't gonna spend my money to go. It's like, you know that the money that people pay for the fight goes into his pocket.

[E]

Carissa, if somebody says, you know, look, I think Shannon's a phenomenal tight end, but he just don't block it. Just don't do it for me. I can't take that personal. That is someone's opinion. I offered an opinion. That's it. I said he was.

[C]

I think that your. I think that sometime with y' all opinions, y' all just, like, go sometime with, like, the podcast and stuff. Sometimes y' all say stuff, and it's. And it's triggering. And I can apologize about saying what I said about your hip. You had triggered me. So my job is to trigger you back. That's it.

[E]

But you say you didn't take it personal.

[C]

I, I. No, no, no. I. I told you I took it personal. I said, I take anything you say about me in boxing personal. I told you that. I said that. You said my boxing. Oh, Clarissa can't do this, boxing this, boxing that. Oh, he talks shit about me. Because boxing is all that. I.

[E]

But you overlook all the other stuff. I Said that you the greatest, that you were sensational, that you were two time Olympic champion. So all the good stuff that I said, you set that to the side and just focus on the one thing that I said that you couldn't beat rolling. So all the 15 great say I couldn't be rolling.

[C]

You said Rolly gonna knock you out.

[E]

I didn't say rolling was gonna knock you out. I said Rolly would beat you. Yes. I believe he would stop you. Yes. In a 10, in a 12 round fight. Yes, I believe Rolly would stop you.

[C]

So. So did you say that or no?

[E]

I said he would beat you, but I do believe he would stop you.

[C]

I stop you was a knockout, right?

[E]

Okay. Tko, ko, whatever you want to. Hey, you. Hey. They throw the tie, leave. Whatever you want to use. The term you want to use.

[C]

No, no, no, and no, no. That's not it. But y' all know that I got mad love for y'. All. Y' all know that.

[E]

The fact that you own let us know that. So we, we appreciate that for y'.

[F]

All.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

We only show that your last fight. We talked about your last fight, but you didn't give. You didn't tweet nothing about that.

[C]

No, y' all have put up congrats or something, but did y'?

[E]

All.

[C]

I think I did retweet it.

[E]

No, no, no. Hey, y' all go for watch. Nightcap. Uncle Nocho, they were talking about your girl. Good. You didn't say that.

[C]

Listen, y' all know I rock with y', all, but I was. I'm still trending now.

[E]

Why you think about what we said?

[C]

I didn't even. I think I seen it, but I had thought I had retweeted it or said something. But no, look, I love beeping in with y'. All. I love talking, you know, talking boxing with y'.

[E]

All.

[C]

Just know that when like come to me, I'm more of a. It's all in the opinion until it's fact. And when I hear y' all talk about things like it's facts, it'd be pissing me off because it's like one. You never know until it. Until it happens. You never know.

[E]

When we came on, we said a two time gold medalist, a three time undisputed champion, undisputed heavyweight champion, a five division world champion with a perfect record with three KOs, the greatest woman of all time. So you bypass that and say, well, he said, rolly gonna beat me.

[C]

That's a fighter's mentality. I'M like, wait a minute now.

[F]

Yeah, Matter of fact. Hey, hey, Clarissa.

[C]

Hey, you like to knock me out or stop me part? Oh, I was really pissed in. You really tripping me, then.

[F]

Hey, hold on.

[E]

Go ahead, Ocho.

[F]

Clarissa.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Hey, tell Unc. Tell Uncle I whooped Shakur. Please.

[C]

Oh, show. You gotta stop.

[F]

Come on, come on.

[C]

Wait a minute. You say you can beat about Andre Ward now you can beat up Shakur. Is it like the light skinned guys for you or something,

[E]

Clarissa? Can you spar, Ocho?

[C]

Yeah, I promise you I will spar, Ocho.

[E]

That's what I'm talking about. See, that's a match I can get. That's something I can get that. I got you. I change. I got you. God damn, mama, I got you on that one.

[F]

Hold on. You got. Hold up.

[E]

You.

[F]

You got Rolly, but you don't have

[E]

me n. I'm sorry. Oh, see, you see how you see

[F]

how you doing me? Okay, okay.

[E]

She said she gonna study you. You about her side. Y' all about the same size. You about 185. She say she walks around at 185. I got Clarissa.

[F]

Hey, the weight, the weight. The weight don't matter when it come to skill. You hear me? The weight don't matter, Clarissa.

[E]

You heard what he said. He said he got better skills than you, Clarissa. That's what he said. And you said.

[F]

You said. What we doing? Why you putting words in my mouth?

[C]

But you know what, though? I have seen oo spar, and I've seen them work out. And like I said, I would love to see what he think about me inside the ring. And I can guarantee him like, man, uncle, we better watch what you say about that damn girl, because that girl be swinging. She be landing. And I'm. And I'm fast as lightning, baby. I'm fast as lightning. Did you see the fight? Yes. Did you see the fight? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Listen, I'm into my own horn, but I ain't beat a up like that in a long time. Like, I mean, talk about, did you

[E]

save any of that for Ocho in the sparring session?

[C]

I tell Ocho, give me about. Give me about mid. Give about April. Me him spark.

[E]

That's what I want to be, right? There we go. Have night, we going to have nightcap, a nightcap from Clarissa training camp. Oo go spar. Couple of rounds.

[F]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Matter of fact, do me a favor, right? Hey, Clarissa, I want. I want a running clock, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

I want. I Want to running clock. I don't want no three minutes. I don't want no 30 second rest. I want to run a clock. I want four. I want four rounds. Huh?

[C]

You think you Floyd Mayweather, huh?

[F]

No, I mean, that's just the way I train. That's the way when I train with boots.

[C]

You want a four minute round?

[F]

Yeah, four minute. No, no, I just want to run a clock.

[C]

What does that mean? Like, just let the clock run.

[E]

So you get to beat him up as long as you want to, Clarissa. He won't.

[F]

He won't.

[C]

Doghouse rules.

[F]

Yeah. Dog house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I need. I need. Hold on. I need four different. I need four different.

[C]

Huh? How old you is?

[F]

Don't matter. The age don't matter.

[C]

How old are you?

[F]

Age don't matter. When it comes to 47, 58.

[C]

47, 58.

[F]

Hey, hey. You know, you know, you know what they call me in the gym? What they call me Hella hands.

[C]

What? You fast. Oh, what you got quick hands.

[F]

No, it feel like you fighting two people. So are you sure you want to get in the ring with me?

[C]

No, if you sure you want to get in the ring with me?

[F]

Oh, set it up, set it up, set it up, set it up.

[E]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[C]

He dropping the hook already. I'm ready.

[F]

Hey, hey.

[C]

I'm.

[F]

I'm good. When it's coming, the elbow gonna be up. Don't worry about it.

[C]

The elbow gonna be up.

[F]

When it's coming, it's coming.

[C]

See? O think he got good head movement because his head little, but my head little too. See that? Here, here.

[F]

Hey, hey, we. Hey, we gotta do that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Come on. Like she'll be ready to go like mid. Mid to late April by April.

[F]

Okay.

[E]

What?

[F]

Hey, April. Hey, April. We gonna be in. Oh, you down the street.

[C]

I'm in Atlanta.

[E]

I know where you live, but I'm saying where are you going to be training out of?

[C]

I'm fighting again probably in July, August. I supposed to piece a piece of Shadesha, but she's fighting against the girl that I beat already. So I guess we got to put her on the back burner for right now. So I think I'm fighting again in July, August. If we can lock in this fight

[E]

with another girl, there's some people. Hey, hold on. What's going on with you and Chris Cyberg? Because she been. She been. She been commenting on a lot of the posts.

[F]

Yeah. Why she. She wanna. Why she would she want to fight? She want to Fight. I mean, what do you think about that?

[C]

She's a bum.

[E]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[C]

Clarissa, I don't even know. No, I'm like, I'm so serious. She came out box to save her life.

[E]

Well, she said she won't. She won't. She won't smoke now.

[C]

She's a clout. She's a clout chaser. Tell her to fight it. She want me to come all the way down to 147 and lose my ass and a little bit of chance that I got to fight against her? No, ma'.

[E]

Am.

[C]

If she really want to fight, she can meet me up at 165. I would. I would knock her ass out easy. Chris Cyborg cannot box and she know that. She says my name because she's not relevant no more. She's a loser. She's a loser. She's not relevant no more. So she's got to say my name. But she. Man, I got pictures where Chris Iberg then walked out with my belts, them being there. She's a fan. But now she want to be a hater because. Let me. Let me tell you how soft these girls is. Let me tell you something. The guy who throw Floyd fights, right, he came to me and said, clarissa, we want to do a fight with you. We want to have you on an undercard of Floyd Mayweather, but we got to find you a good opponent. I said, okay, who you thinking about? He got name people off. Name people off. And he like, oh, well, she not. She not that good. She not that good. We want you to have a good fight. I said, well, they had just did Francis Ngannou versus Anthony Joshua. I said, what about Chris Cyborg? It's back when she was my friend. He said, okay. He was gonna pay me 3 million and was gonna pay Chris 2, 3. 3 million for me, 2 for her at 154 pounds. This was like a couple years ago. I called him, my good girl Chris. Hey, girl, I got some money for us. I got some money for us. Me and you fight exhibition, whatever rounds, blah, blah, blah. She was all cool, right then. I was like, we're gonna fight at 154. She said, 154. She agreed all this stuff. She talked to the guy, she gonna tell him. I put him in contact. She like, oh, no, she gotta fight me at 147.

[F]

What? Nah, she messed up the money.

[C]

First of all, I could have said, fight me at 160. I ain't gotta lose nothing. You then this was a couple years ago. She's talking about some. No, I come to 47 and then start saying she had knocked me out and then started this whole rumor that I'm scared of her. Like, I don't have to be scared of a girl that I sparred one time, four rounds, when we supposed to do six. In the four rounds, after I kicked her ass in front of her boxing coach, Jason, she was damn near about to die and cry inside the ring, literally. And I boxed her in some damn Jordans. I need to have my boxing shoes. I had no mouthpiece. And I wore her gloves and her. Her. Her gloves and her headgear, and I tore Chris Cyborg ass up. And she know that we never sparred again. Never sparred again. Just that one time. And that's when you know you got somebody, they won't even call you back for sparring no more.

[E]

I tell you what.

[F]

Hey, matter of fact, I got one more thing. Clarissa. You know what? This past weekend, right, I married a very good friend of mine. So now I'm. I can officiate weddings. So I'm asking you ahead of time, when you and Papoose decide to jump the broom, allow me to officiate your wedding. If you don't. If you don't know, you can go to my Instagrams and you can see where I married Gary Owens and his. And his wife, Brianna Johnson Owens.

[C]

I seen that before I got on here. I just seen.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Congratulations.

[F]

Yeah, I appreciate that. So right now, I'm a man of the cloth. I'm the honorable Bishop Ocho. So at any point you guys cross the room, please allow me to officiate your wedding. I ain't gonna charge much. I ain't gonna charge much.

[C]

You know what? And I mean this, like, so humbly, we have such a long line with that. Everybody wants to officiate our wedding. I don't know how everybody know we're going to get married one day, but everybody just say it and they see it and they say it all the time. And I would say that.

[F]

No, no, no, no. Okay, you know what? Let me fight everybody that want to officiate your wedding. And whoever come out win. Whoever come out that goddamn, that's how we gonna do it.

[C]

You gonna be fighting against church people? Oh, you. You crazy. Yeah.

[F]

Hey, baby, listen. Sometimes the Lord say, you gotta backslide. You gotta.

[E]

You gotta.

[F]

You got it.

[C]

Hey, the Lord said that it's a. It's a time for peace and a time for war.

[F]

Then I'm going to war.

[E]

I'll tell you what? Clarissa, I know you're gonna talk to us. I know you're gonna talk to Jakur, but ask your Cor if he wants to come on and explain. What? What did I say? My opinion. Why did I upset him so much? Yes,

[C]

I'll ask him. But I want to also ask you.

[E]

Yes, ma'.

[F]

Am.

[C]

What do you mean by you and Shakur can't compare accolades at the end of y' all careers? I know. And you a Hall of Famer, correct? In football, Right. So how would y' all compare?

[E]

When his career is over, when he retired, we'll look and see what he's done. And if he's recognized as one of the greats, if he's recognized with Leonard and. And Pacquiao and Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns and. And Floyd Mayweather.

[C]

But you know he will be, though, right?

[E]

Let's see. We said this. We.

[C]

No, but I'm saying, like, sometimes you just see it.

[E]

We said the same thing about Jermaine Taylor, didn't we, when he stopped, remember when he beat Bernard Hopkins, we said the same thing. He was on that trajectory, right? So let's see how it plays out. You got. You got to let a career. Career. You can't get halfway through it because we've seen guys start out great and things happen, and I pray nothing happens to Shakur, but we have to let the career, career before we do that.

[C]

This is long. This is a longevity thing, like support Olympic silver medalist to turn pro. I. I believe he's three division world champion. Am I correct?

[E]

Probably so, yeah.

[C]

I think he's probably three or four. I don't even know which one. I hope he don't crucify me for that. I need to learn my, like, my brother's stuff. But I will. I will say this. You really. Shakur is already a Hall of Famer right now with what he's accomplished right now.

[E]

So let me ask you a question. Is he one of the best five lightweights to ever fight? So is he better than Duran? He better than Sugar Shane, he's better than Sugar Ray Leonard. He better than Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Shane mostly at that division. Pacquiao at that division.

[C]

I think Shakur is a better. Now, see, I like Pacquiao, very Aqua fighter and all that stuff. Shakur, boxing skills.

[E]

No, we went down skills is what. Here's the thing. Now, if. Right now, if he were to retire right now, is he better than Shane Mosley? Is he better than Floyd? Is he better than those guys at the lightweight division?

[C]

No, not right now. No. At the lightweight. Not right now. See, we talking about you talking about these guys full careers versus his career, which is right in the middle.

[E]

Now do you understand why I said when his career is over, let's have a discussion.

[C]

Well, I'm telling you, Shakur is going to be considered like the Floyd Mayweather in just a year or two. You know that, right? Because he gonna, he gonna fight the guys who y' all said that he can't beat. And if he can get the fights because.

[E]

But he won't wait clauses, he won't rehydration clauses and all that.

[C]

Which is smart. What you mean it's smart? Listen, these gaining 30 and 40 pounds after they weigh in, this is crazy.

[E]

They always did that. They always rehydrated and refueled up. I didn't, I didn't know anything about a rehydration calls until Tank and Ryan fought. I don't remember Sugar Ray and Duran and all those guys having rehydration clause.

[C]

So how do you feel about Tank having one on Ryan? You think if he didn't have it on Ryan that Ryan would have won?

[E]

But that's what I'm saying. But didn't they fight at a catch weight? Listen, if I walk around at 180, I make 147. Why you could. I made the weight, the weight said 147. So now you want me to walk around. I walk around at 180, I make 147. Now you got a problem if I go up. So now I got to stay at 150.

[C]

Well, I last £3.

[E]

Map. So what they have, I think Ryan could only go up what, five, six pounds.

[C]

Which, which is, which is dumb because a gallon of water is eight pounds. That's not even safe for a fighter. But I will say this. You see, Terrence went up and fought against Canelo, right? Come the smaller man going up three different weight classes. And we never heard Terrence say rehydration clothes.

[F]

Correct.

[C]

And the only reason that we did it, we now, we didn't hear that. Is because Terence Crawford is a big guy himself. Naturally, Shakur is not naturally social. Corey is not big like that. Like Shakur has been small.

[E]

Floyd has been small. Floyd never had a rehydration cloth. Floyd probably walks around at 150. That's why it was so easy for him to be great. I mean, he's a great, his skill level, don't get me wrong. But Floyd probably walks around at 150, 150. 2 so making 147 was nothing to him.

[C]

But Floyd is way bigger than Shakur. Like, Shakur is actually a little guy. I think he's fought the Olympics at. Was it 126 that. I mean, that's. Yeah, you're talking about 126 pounds. And now he's at a couple years later. Now, he done only fought as big as 140. That's £14.

[E]

But as. As you get, you know, as you get older, Clarissa, you know, the body is just something. The body just naturally put.

[C]

Yeah, it filled out more.

[E]

It'll fill out.

[C]

It feels out more. But I feel like. I feel like with Shakur, him being, I think, 27, 28, that he hasn't. Like, he hasn't seen how strong he really is yet and seen, you know, his power, like, his power and everything. Like, I'm turning 31 next week, and I feel like my last fight was the strongest I've ever been in my entire life.

[E]

So what did you fight in the Olympics? What did you fight at, Clarissa, what was your weight in the Olympics?

[C]

165. 75.

[E]

So you fought. So. So you. You've been fighting at your natural way the whole damn time?

[C]

Well, I went down to 54 and became undisputed, and then I fought at 60.

[E]

Yeah, but, you know, like, most guys. Most guys when they fight, they, like, they fight, okay, Like. Like Roy Jones. Roy was a junior welterweight, and then he went to middle, then he went to super middle. Then he, you know, he fought, then he went to light, and then he took the belt from Ruiz.

[C]

Anyway.

[E]

Yeah. And so normally, you see, you look at Sugar Ray, lightweight, super move on up 47, and then he fought Hagley, middleweight at 160. But for you, I don't know if I've heard this before, is that you 165, and you've been basically fighting at. So you in your wheelhouse, you in your sweet spot. Ain't nobody gonna beat you at that weight.

[F]

Well.

[C]

Well, that's the thing. So I started my professional career at 168. Then. Then I went down to 60, and then I went down to 54. I would went down to 47 to fight against Cecilia brackets, but she wouldn't fight me. That was who was number one at the time at that weight class. So I said that 54. I went back to 60. Then I went. Then I was no girls to fight at 68. Now I'm at 75. I'm just jumping around and seeing.

[E]

Did you come back down to 54? If you could find a fight at 54, would you go back down to 54?

[C]

The lowest I can go, I believe, is 60. But it's because I put on so much, so much muscle and strength to fight at 75.

[F]

Right?

[C]

If these girls at 75, I'm telling you, on these girls is huge. I'm telling you.

[E]

Well, if they fight, if they get to make 75, they might be walking around at 95, 200. Then.

[C]

Clarissa, I know I fought against a girl. I ain't gonna say her name because I don't want to give her business out, but she walk around at 215 and me and her fought at 175.

[F]

She walk around at what?

[C]

215. I have never been 200. Nothing well in my life.

[E]

I agree with you. I think the thing is, once you get to that weight and you get comfortable, because I think that's what hurt Roy. Roy went from, you know, Roy put on that weight to be the heavyweight champ, and he went to heavyweight all the way muscle. And he was never the same after that.

[C]

Yeah, I think that because. Because I do plan on going back down to. To have some more big. Some have some more big. Some more big fights.

[E]

Okay?

[C]

And I will say that it's about how you lose weight. Everybody want to spend only two weeks in, you know, well, two months, three months, four months.

[E]

Be 16 to 20 weeks, right?

[C]

But I'm saying, like, they want to spend three months and two months and just spend all that time losing weight and getting ready for the fight. You understand what I'm saying? And it's like, you need to lose weight the correct way to where your body is not shocked right when you get back down there. So I have a very strong nutrition team who I've been with since 2018. The same thing that. That. And they've been telling me for years. I'm talking about years ago. They was like, clarissa, you can get the 147. And I told them they are smoking something, but they are.

[E]

Hey, you might have to get on that. Zip it if you want to get to 47, Clarissa, you better get on that zippy or that major note tri Zepatide or something.

[F]

Hey, matter of fact, you know, you. You could put me on. Can I be the head of your nutrition team?

[E]

No.

[C]

Oh, so you looking for another job? You trying to stop working with Uncle Shannon? He get on your nerves?

[F]

I got. I got. I got about 50, 11 jobs, sis. I'm. I'm trying to be. You know what?

[C]

I. Listen, I heard this is what I learned. They said in order to be a millionaire, you got to have at least seven incomes. You looking right at having some outcomes, ain't you?

[F]

I got way more than that, sis.

[C]

Hold on now. I. I know you got the millions, but you're trying to get to the tens and the twins and the thirty millions, ain't you?

[F]

I'm just. I'm just. I'm just trying to have my hand in. In a little bit of everything, that's all. That's all? That's all. It ain't about the money, because I ain't spending on no way.

[C]

I heard. I heard you don't. You don't spend money on your jewelry.

[F]

Oh, I don't play well now, I dabbling. I dabble and I dip and dabble a little bit now.

[C]

Okay, right here, Buddy.

[F]

Well, let me see. Let me see what that is. What that is, Sis, this is a.

[C]

This is a book. Is this a Bulgari? It's only two of them made in the world.

[F]

You got, Mike, you got.

[E]

You got.

[F]

Well, I ain't got no. I ain't got no jewelry on tonight,

[C]

but I only wore this one today, and I got, like, a little Gucci ring. This ain't nothing. A little 2000.

[F]

Hey, can you do me one favor, too? Because I got. I got. I got two people that have been ducking. They've been ducking me for a while.

[C]

Okay. He said to Corbin, ducky and who else?

[F]

Oh, yeah, you know, he don't want the hand. Tell Andre Ward stop running for me.

[E]

Right?

[C]

Okay, so there's two people. Who else?

[F]

Tell Bud I said, I'm here, man,

[C]

if you don't leave Twin alone.

[E]

But Bud really. Bud really like that, Clarissa, he don't really understand. Bud really, really like that.

[F]

I didn't been in the ring with Bud. I know. I know what. I know what to do. I just.

[E]

Buddy, you want to wrestle Bud around?

[C]

Y' all better stay away from them rings, bro. Did y' all see what Keyshawn did? The blue face?

[E]

I saw that.

[F]

You saw that?

[E]

I did.

[F]

You saw that.

[C]

God damn. Listen, I would say that that's one thing that Blueface is doing right. He going and getting the actual work. I can respect that. But golly, he must have hit Keyshawn with a shot. And Keyshawn went crazy on him.

[E]

I mean, straight body, shot, head. Hey, he was everything. Pull, counter. I said, damn.

[C]

Yeah, he. It was like a professional fight. I thought he was fighting Ortiz again.

[E]

Yes, yes.

[F]

And the funny thing, too, about it when you, when you go against the pros at that level and you think you can fight and once they decide to turn up.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

It becomes overwhelming and it's not. It's nothing you could do.

[C]

Nope.

[E]

Thanks for joining us. We really appreciate that. That's. Y' all know who said two time Olympic gold, Bella, three time three division champ, five division world champ, undisputed heavyweight champ 18.0record with three KOs. Clarissa Shields. Thank you. Thanks.

[C]

Hi, y'. All. Thank y' all for having me.

[E]

Appreciate that.

[C]

Yep.

[E]

J. We really hope you guys enjoyed that conversation.

[F]

Look, hey, they, they. They had to enjoy that.

[E]

She stood on. I stood on what I stood on. We, we agreed to disagree. I hope that fight doesn't happen. I don't think anybody benefits from that because, you know, like I said, listen at him talk. If you see that, his demeanor, he's like, I don't hit women. Yeah, you're right. She knocked me out. He would go in there with intentions to hurt her. And I don't, we don't, we don't need that.

[F]

Ocho, like hypothetically, you know, the, the dialogue, the discourse is really good. It was entertaining. And everyone obviously, 98 of the people agree that, you know, that, that Rolly would win. And I said, you with 10 ounce gloves with no headgear, you, Your ass would have to be goddamn cautious. No matter how good your defense is, crack the way he can. It just takes one. It just takes one. And he, and it takes. He has a punching chance. So I, I enjoy it. I hope that people enjoyed it. But I also hope that people understand, despite what they may feel, despite them might saying she's delusional, I hope they understand that the mentality that she has, even having the belief that she can win is the main reason why she is great at what she does. At times you have to be delusional. Hell, Unc, I come on here with you all the time and I'm delusional since we've been going for the last two years. But me being delusional at times is one of the reasons why I was great at what I did.

[E]

I think the fake was that the

[F]

greatest of all time? No, but it's a piece of what made me great.

[E]

But I think she said, you know, you like I'm just gonna, you know, I tuck your chin and move your head. Well, you can't throw punches with your team. Your chin tucked and moving your head because you know when you throw a punch, you open yourself up.

[F]

Yeah, you got to.

[E]

If you're so when no matter what punch you throw, there's a counter to it. Because while you throw in that punch, the side that you throwing the punch from, that side of the face is open. I get it, you know, you keep your hands up. But what about the side that you throwing the punch? Ocho, what about the side that you throw it you throwing the overhand? What about the side you threaten to throw the hook you vulnerable.

[F]

And the funny thing too, you know, at that level you got to be careful too because it's, you know, people, people you taught the. You told the punch between punches. So you got, you got the exchange or something coming back in hurry.

[E]

All right, let's get to the NFL. The Dolphins are releasing tour with a post June 1st designation. Miami take on an NFL record 99 million dollar dead money split over two years. Miami would rather pay $99 million ocho than have two on the team. 2 of players decide a one year deal with Atlanta Falcons. So now the Falcons would have two left handed quarterbacks. Michael Pennings Jr. Jr. And Tua heading into 2026. The playoff wins for the class of 2022 is 0 and 11 game. Justin Herbert is 0 and 3, 3 games. Jordan love 1 and 34 games Jordan. Joe Burrow 5 and 27 games. And Jalen Hurts is 6 and 4, 10 games Ocho and they owe him a little attention to 55 million. So he gets 55 million guaranteed. So for the extra year they basically played to about $125 million to get his services for an extra year. And this is the problem that you run into Ocho is that when you sign these guys then that third year and you don't let them get to that fourth year and pick up that fifth year option if it Kyler, we saw this and we're going to talk about Kyle in a minute. This is the problem that you run into because you sign it for an extra year and you like he ain't it. But you stuck like Chuck. But the Dolphin says we gonna move on. We're gonna cut our losses. It's a loss Ocho. We're gonna cut it and move on. Ocho, this is talk to us.

[F]

Yeah, this is my, it's my team. I mean it happens all the time. It happens all the time. But Obviously when Mike McDaniel left, when things didn't go right, the stuff with two or some of the things that Tua said last year, obviously them not playing well offensively, the frustration with Tyreek Hill actually leaving, leaving the field the previous season the injury this season, Tua not playing very well this season, being benched, you know, at. At some point in, in this season as well, things weren't going right. And I think from that, for that, from that moment on, they were looking forward to moving on from him. And a lot of people say, well, what about the. The dead cat pit there? It'd be impossible to let someone go with a dead cat, dead cap hit that big. And I don't think people understand how business works. They will eat that. They will eat that regardless of what the cap number is once they are willing to move on from you, even at the quarterback position. Because at that position, that's the one that matters most. That's the individual that touches the ball most. For us to go anywhere, we have to have consistency and structure at said position. And when it's not playing well, you understand, it's not going anywhere. No matter how much you. You paid them. We have no choice but to move on. Not only move on, they. They scrap the whole goddamn thing. And starting over.

[E]

Oo, it's like a relationship. And we've seen this. You know it's over. They know it's over. But what you do oo, you hang on for another year or two, and all you've done is wasted another year, Two years of your time, another year or two of her time. The Dolphin says, we know this.

[F]

Nothing gonna change.

[E]

You keep the ring.

[F]

Nothing gonna change.

[E]

I know we paid $100 million for this ring. You keep it. You keep it. We're moving on. And I. I can't blame him. I can't say that I blame him. If you don't believe the guy can get it done, why are we holding on? I got. You know what, Ojo? We're gonna pay you 55. We don't believe you. The guy. We're gonna pay you 55 million to go play elsewhere. I sure wish somebody make a mistake like that on me when I was playing with you.

[F]

Yeah. Hey, listen, it's the nature of the business, especially if you play quarterback. The time. Listen, also, not only it's the nature of the business, but the timing of when it happened. Yep, the timing. There was no. There was nowhere else to go. There was no other answer. So if you. Let's say you didn't want to play tour, let's say Miami Dolphins fans didn't want him to be the quarterback of the future for the next decade or what, whatever it may be, there was nowhere else to turn. You can't just pick quarterbacks off the Goddamn tree, huh?

[E]

How about play. Make him play that fourth year and pick up his fifth year option. That's always a first round pick. That's always an option.

[F]

Right. But hold on. We talk about tour. He's been a good model citizen. He's coming off two phenomenal seasons back to back obviously with when their offense was going crazy. I forgot what year that was. When they put up 70 on goddamn Denver that season in general. Obviously still a first round exit if

[E]

they lost Kansas City.

[F]

Yes, yes. And it's just that they, I think he had done enough for them, for them to, to say, you know what for your services and what you've done to date. We're going to bless you because you've done everything as a model citizen. Model citizen in the community as a quarterback, as our franchise players and we want to reward you like every other teams for the person that they believe in. And I think that's why they did was short lived. I wish my USO the best down there in Atlanta. I'm not sure what's going to go on with their quarterback situation. It's kind of, it's kind of funny. Is this the first time, is this the first time I could be wrong that there've been two left handed quarterbacks?

[E]

I can't think anything off the top of my head or. Joe.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

But here's the thing.

[F]

I mean it's cool.

[E]

He's gotten two coaches fired. Brian Flores and McDaniels. He's got two coaches fired. Now we can look at it any kind of way you want to. And they, they brought.

[F]

Yes sir.

[E]

They drafted Jalen Waddle. They traded for, they traded. They gave up a king's ransom to get Reek. They brought Raheem Mosted in there. They drew out the Devon A Chan wide receivers. They, they brought in Darren Waller. I would have been really, really leery based on his injury history at college, based on his injury history in the NFL. I'd have been real hesitant Ocho. To invest that kind of money in him. I really, I really would have. And, and to think he's not, he's not a big guy guy. He's not a big guy. And, and, and, and I just think the thing is right now is that it was the best decision for them to. It was the 25th in QBR over the past two seasons since signing a 112 million dollar extension in 2024. But the Falcons are hoping to revert back to his pre extension performance when he had the fifth highest QBR in 22:23 hours after announcing tools released, the Dolphins agreed to a contract with Malik Willis. Three years.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

What we talk about what 67.5 million. That presumably makes him this team starting quarterback at least in the 2026 season. Ocho, are you excited about this signing?

[F]

You goddamn right I'm excited. You. I'm got. You goddamn right I'm excited. Because listen, Malik Willis, he got a bad, he got a bad rap. He got a bad rap. He's supposed to be the quarterback of the Tennessee Titans, but obviously things didn't work out. Things didn't work out. They went and drafted goddamn Will Levis. No disrespect to young bullshit obviously Beam. Okay, fast forward to now. Jordan Love gets hurt with the Green Bay packers last year. Malik. Malik. Willis steps in and looks phenomenal.

[E]

He did.

[F]

He looks phenomenal. I'm not, I'm not sure if anybody in the chat that, that's watching you can understand. You can hear the enthusiasm in which I speak and speak of him, you know, and, and how good he looked when he replaced Jordan Love with the Packers. The only problem that worries me, this is what worries me with him coming to Miami. Right. We have Jayden Waddle. I want you to look at the supporting cast in which he had to work with, with the Green Bay Packers. You had Hicks, Watson, Reed, Romeo Dobbs. Do you, you see where I'm going with that? You see where I'm going with all, all these, all these catches of the ball? So now you're coming here to Miami. Now I think part of the reason why you had that short term success when Jordan Love was out was because of the goddamn weaponry that's surrounding you.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the, with the, with the Dolphins receivers right now, but I still need them to either raise their level of play equivalent to that of what they have in Green Bay because they, they're not just guys. They're not, they're not just guys. They, they can, they can get it done and they make a difference and it's by committee because when it comes to the packers on game day, you never know whose day it's gonna be. You never know who in Dan's going to be. So is that, is that's what we need here? We need another weapon, huh? We, we need another weapon to go with Jalen Waddle. Obviously we do have some very, very good complimentary pieces that do what they do well at the receiver position, but we need another guy. Yeah, we need another guy. And I Think we'll be fine offensively. Hell, we got mother brother Hn back there doing his thing. So we get, if we can get another guy to add maybe to, to add a little speed to take the top off a defense or, or someone that's really great at run after cat. I mean, whatever it may be, there are a lot of options out there right now in free agency. So I'm sure the Dolphins are going to do their due diligence, do their homework. And I'm glad we got Malik Willis based off the small sample size of him starting on a team where they're structured offensively like to the top. To the, to the top tee, from top to bottom. I'm hoping we get that same production from here, here in Miami, you know, in the 7, 16, 17 game season. I'm happy, I'm excited.

[E]

I thought the Dolphins. Oo. I thought the Dolphins or the, the, the Cardinals were the best fit. I thought he'd get a little bit more money. I thought he would get something like a Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold deal, you know, something around the 28 to 30 million dollars. He got about 22 and a half a year. Which is good money. Which is good money for a guy.

[F]

Yes.

[E]

That hadn't started in a couple of years and just only bought play. I think four games started a couple of games last year. Yeah, but I agree with everything that you said. You, you got to put weapons around him. He didn't really have those weapons. I don't know how well he was coached. I don't know how conducive the system that he was in was for him. But if you look at him, he looked like a total, a totally different quarterback in Green Bay.

[F]

Yes.

[E]

Than he did when he was with Tennessee. Now, a lot of that has to do with expectations, you know what I'm saying? Ojo, you the backup guy. Ain't a whole lot expected of you. As long as you don't wet the baby.

[F]

Right.

[E]

They're going to love you. Now you're going into a situation. You're back to the Tennessee. There's expectations, their expectations now. And I wish the young man the best because I, you know, like I said, I knew he would get a. Based on the way he played last year. I said he gonna play himself into a contract. He's gonna be a starter for somebody.

[F]

You said it. You said it. I forgot what game it was. I think it might have been his, his first time starting.

[E]

He went out Chicago. He played really well. Baltimore. Remember Baltimore. The Baltimore game. Yeah.

[F]

Oh, yeah. The Baltimore game. Yep.

[E]

Oh, Joe. The Kansas City Chiefs are signing former Super Bowl MVP Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker, the third to upgrade their backfield. The deal, three years worth up to 45 million with 28.7 fully guaranteed. Walker coming off argument's best season, earning MVP honors in the super bowl, leading the Seahawks past the Patriots last month. He also led the NFL in postseason rushes, 65 rush yards, 313 rushing touchdowns, four in three games in January and February. Walker will become the first Super Bowl MVP to sign with a new team the following season since Dexter Jackson did it for the Buccaneers. He left to go to the Cardinals in 2003. The Chiefs wanted to upgrade their rushing attack. They ranked 25th in rush yards per game, 106.6 and 20th in yards per carry at 4, 2, 1. This especially struggled down the stretch, failing to surpass the 100 worst yard mark in each of their final four games. Ocho, do you like this?

[F]

Hey, I absolutely. I absolutely do like it. I was, I was upset that the Chiefs and do their due diligence and do what they needed to do to bring a running back in last season at the trade deadline. I was hoping it would have been Bree Paul Breece hall getting somebody that can take the like. Yeah, yeah. You see how they doing it. You saw his tweet.

[E]

But they weren't willing to give up a second round pick and the Dolphins had a. Stood firm. You lost your mind.

[F]

Yeah. You know, you know what your team needs. Obviously you, when you look at somebody like the Chiefs, you understand. You know what? Okay. You don't want to give us. You don't, you don't value that position the way you think you should because you have a quarterback that's so, that's so good at what he does. Well, you really haven't had a centerpiece or a running back like that. But now I think it's very important for them to get a player like brother Walker and, and what he can do. You have, you have a. You have a player that is, that is really good. He looked tremendous last year with the Seahawks when he actually got a chance to actually start and play a bit. Play a bit. Bit more at the shop. Am I saying it? Right after Charbonne went down and got injured, he played himself into a contract. He played himself into an opportunity to play for the Chiefs. So I'm excited. I'm excited for them. But. But they still need help as well.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

In other positions. Now that, I mean you, you said it last year. You Said it last year that they need to get a running back. You said it last year because what they, what they had, you know, getting 1 and 2 yards and 3 yards of carry just ain't gonna cut it.

[E]

I, I thought, I think the thing is, Ocho is like when you have a great quarterback, you're like, well, we could take maybe average or below average at certain positions and because our quarterback is so great, he could overcome that. Well, finally it caught up.

[F]

Bingo.

[E]

And Mahomes couldn't overcome it because the running back, the lack of running back, the lack of big plays at the wide receiver position and the inconsistency of the offensive line, it finally, even Patrick Mahomes, it was too great for him to overcome. And then once he got that injury, you know, their season was over. And so they just kind of, they've played, they continue to play, but they weren't winning anything. I like this. I don't really know where else, where they was going to go. I mean you look at what atn, he went to the Saints, he got a big, got a big payday. I don't know if this mean, does this mean they're probably out of the market for the brother from Love? I, I think what's the brother from another name?

[F]

Jordan. Jordan Love.

[E]

Jeremiah. Look.

[F]

Yeah, my love. I'm talking about.

[E]

I don't know if that's. They're out of the running and maybe there's like we're where we're picking. We're probably not going to get there to get him. And so we got to upgrade this. Look, if you just look at it, Ocho, me personally, I'm not so sure that he's a top 10 running back, but sometimes in free agency it's about being free. It's about you. You look at some of the salaries that the guys are getting. They have to be free.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

And that's. It's all about timing. Location, location, location, restaurant or business. Timing, timing, timing. When it comes to these contracts, it's everything. And so like I said, I don't know. He probably, he, he hit it. Right. He hit it when he needed to have a great postseason super bowl mvp. Somebody's gonna pay him now. I knew I like there's a 95 chance he's gonna go elsewhere. They just, they're just not running backs unless you 17, 1800 yards. Unless you know.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

A couple of times like a Derek Henry or Saquon that even, even Quan Saquon really couldn't get a second long term contract from the Giants remember they franchised him. He had to leave.

[F]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[E]

Henry at least got a second contract. And then they was like, well, he don't have any juice. No. No juice left. And then he goes and still play it well. Jonathan Taylor. But for the most part, Ocho, they're not really giving running backs second big time contracts. And so I was. I'm not surprised that he's not in Seattle anymore based on, on the production that they got out of him. Charbonnet will be back. I believe he'll be back. And. And you, you probably can go get a running back to feel. To feel the, the boy that he leaves vacated.

[F]

And that. That's exactly how they view it. That's exactly how they view it. If you're not special. If you're not special. They think we can play. It's plug and play. We can find another you. We can find another you that can do exactly what you were doing.

[E]

You're right. But I think, I think. But the Kansas City Ocho, they still, I feel, I still think they need some office. Obviously offensive. Offensive line, I, I definitely think they need some receiver. They lost a look, they lost both corners. Both corners goes to the Rams. And we talked about this last. I said, man, the Rams secondary is terrible. And what did they do? They wouldn't upgrade it. They got both of the, both of those guys from Kansas City. Now you'll see how they look outside of a. What's the guys out of his system? What, what spags. We'll see how they look outside of his system. Right, but with verse and the offense, with the, the D line, I think the deal. We're gonna see how that is. But Kansas City, they lost Brian Cook. They lost both corners. They. I think they're gonna probably lose some other players. So it's gonna be. Look, Kansas City got their work cut out for them because you let it. You let it. The house, you look, you could have repaired the roof and you didn't. And so now your plumbing is also messed up. So now you gotta. So basically, Ocho, you got a lot of holes to feel.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Because you had. Funny thing about it that masked a lot of things. And when he could no longer mask, you realize kind of like makeup, Ocho, sometimes you don't realize how much, how much makeup helps until the lights come on and you wake up in the morning like my God told my nose. That's what, that's what Patrick Mahomes is. He's the greatest makeup. The great quarterbacks, they're makeups. They're the best. I know. Just before your time. It used to be a makeup called Prince Machabelli and Maybelline.

[F]

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[E]

Maybe I don't know what the makeup. I don't even know Mary Kay.

[F]

Don't forget about Mary Kay.

[E]

The Pete car they drive around.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but I guess.

[E]

But yes sir, those really great quarterbacks, they are great makeup and they can hide imperfections. And it's not until you're not able to apply that makeup that you see all these imperfections and all these blemishes and you realize like, damn, we not as pretty as I thought we were. And the Kansas City realized that because all of a sudden Patrick Mahomes could not cover up those blemishes and they realized just how imperfect they were.

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