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Lily Herman
Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver strike, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app after Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Daniel Alarcon
I'm Daniel Alarcon and this is my friend. He's much more famous than I am.
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John Green
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co host of the podcast the Away End with my old friend Daniel.
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Daniel Alarcon
On our podcast the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.
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John Green
Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I'm Daniel Jeremiah.
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Greg Rosenthal
And I am Greg Rosenthal.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I know that, Greg. We're teaming up on 40s and free agents, the podcast that owns the NFL off season.
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Greg Rosenthal
This is where teams are built. Free agency combine, pro days, trades.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Every move matters, from my draft boards
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Greg Rosenthal
and mock drafts to my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together, quarterback movement, surprise signings.
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Daniel Jeremiah
We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search 40s and free agents and listen now.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How much you weigh, Wanda? Right now about 130.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I'm like 183.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We should race.
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Liberty City Zone
No, I want to leave here with my original hips.
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Aaliyah
On the podcast, a Matchup with Aaliyah, I pair prominent female athletes with unexpected guests. On a recent episode, I sat down with Undisputed boxing champ Clarissa Shields and comedian Wanda Sykes to talk about Wanda's new movie, the Art of Trash Talk and what it really means to be ladylike. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search the Match up with Aaliyah and listen Now.
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Lily Herman
Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.
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Miles Turner
I'm Miles Turner.
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Brianna Stewart
And I'm Brianna Stewart.
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Miles Turner
And our podcast, game Recognized Game, has never been done before.
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Brianna Stewart
Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.
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Miles Turner
Nothing's off limits.
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Brianna Stewart
We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the wnba.
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Miles Turner
We talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey man, we got a call last night man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight.
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Brianna Stewart
Before games check out game recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Liberty City Zone
Joe, what's happening? What's happening?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We good? We good over here. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast. Thank you guys. Thank you for staying up late with us tonight. We really, really appreciate it. In a night like this, that we greatly, greatly appreciate your support makes it all worthwhile. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Shaved by Laportier is a Premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. And now it comes in two sizes. The OG which is a 750. And now we have the Junior which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please, please drink responsibly and be safe. Some very interesting games tonight. I think we're less than a thousand subs away from 2 million. Let's try to cross that threshold in the next two hours. So again, thank you guys. Duke is heading to its elite eight for the third straight year thanks to an 8075 victory over St John. Red Man Carl Carlos was a cam boozer. Started out slowly but he had 13 points and nine rebounds after half. Foster suffered a fractured foot just 20 days ago, was a game changer in the second half. Those guys let it go from the three point line. He came up the bench to have 11 points on five or seven shooting after the half. Excuse me. Ah man, we look this. I knew this game was going to be good guys. I'm surprised with all the size, especially the big bodies that St. John that they were able to out rebound them by 13. Edge of four, Big east player of the year. They got some big bodies and I thought they would do a better job on the glass than what they did against Duke. Give Duke credit. They had some big shots down the stretch and they got because St. John's had got out to a nice lead but Duke would not go away. They scratched and clawed and got close and they end up pulling it out. Joe, what did you like about what you saw from the blue man?
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Liberty City Zone
Just the grid and toughness that they play with Uncle Ocho. I thought, I thought St. John's had some guys too, you know, that could tame boozle, which they did in that first half. And I just thought in the second half, you know, he just kind of put his head down and started making plays and that's what, that's what great players do. That's why he will be a lottery pick in this upcoming draft.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He could be a top I believe it'll be a tie. At least a top three pick. I don't know if you'll go number one. You know, you hear the speculation, the bomb, and you got Peterson, but he ain't getting past.
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Liberty City Zone
He ain't gonna get past three.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and.
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Liberty City Zone
And he's been a winner his whole life, you know, from.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
From.
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Liberty City Zone
Since I've even known about him in high school, through aau, all the way to Duke. He's a winner, bro. But I don't see them going too much farther because I feel like, you know, Evans had a great game. He made some tough shots, he made some big shots. But UNC and Ocho, it's like nobody else, everybody else was just kind of out there, you know what I mean? And I thought St. John's got off to a great start, you know, that. That I thought I said, you know what? I like how St. John's play. Cause they pick up full court, you know, they wear you down. I said, if they can sustain this, they may be all right. Because at the end of the day, St. John's got big guys, that's juniors and seniors versus yes. Versus Duke, who are relying on a freshman, you know what I mean? So I thought that would come into play, too. But obviously Duke answered the bail. They got back in the game and was able to pretty much take advantage of it. But all in all, man, I thought it was a great game. I thought St. John could have done more, though. You know, they got guys who just, I don't know, edge of four had to be better.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was six or 17. He was Biggie's player of the year, defensive guy. Big body guys, Hopkins, they got, like I said, I thought they would have guys that can match up at least. Look, Booze is going to get his points. He's a big, big kid, big strong body. He has an NBA body, and he happens to be a freshman in college. You look at his dad and you see how his dad played the game of basketball. You look at his dad built, so you're not surprised that he has that type of a body. But I was just looking. And I agree with you, Joe. When you look at these guys, St. John's have juniors and seniors and they got grown men bodies. And I thought they would do a better job of keeping them off the glass. And that's where they started getting hurt. Because when Duke missed shot, they would get the rebound and they would miss a shot again and they would get the rebound at some point in time. That's going to come back to bite you. Because I, I think one time the score, what, 5,445. And I was like, okay, St. John's get some separation. But you look back up and the next day, you know, it's a three point ball game because Duke was relentless on the glass.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I was going to say, say the same thing. Obviously, despite St. John size, the second chance points that Duke was able to get obviously did very well. Gordon Booze in the first half. But uncle, it all comes down to
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Liberty City Zone
who wants it more. Yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
You know, being able to. To will what it is you want to do, whether it's, whether it's getting second chance points, whether it's crashing the boards and allow your team another possession, you know, on the ball. I mean, Duke did that first half, obviously St. John played well, but second half, I mean, it was Duke. It was Duke all day. Yeah, I think gonna get in trouble. Obviously, once you get down into elite eight offensively, only having two players that were efficient from the field, and Boozer and goddamn Evans, you're gonna need more. You're gonna need more your players to come in and contribute, you know, to those games. Because it's not going to be as easy as it was for you guys in the second half when you play better teams.
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Liberty City Zone
Oh, yeah, I agree with you. Ocho, think about this. You know, Edge of Four. The, the reason why, you know, we have game changers, game managers, and people who can control the game is because when you look at Boozer, you know, he start. Hey, look, he wasn't getting it on the block. What he started do. He started bringing it up the court. He started playing point guard. He was at the top of the key. He was getting a pick and roll. Yeah, can't do that. You know what I mean? That's not his game. So this is what I'm saying. Game changer. This just being a freshman, like we were just saying he's gonna be a, he gonna be a top three pick and if he can wield him, you know, continue to keep willing them to the next round. Dude got a chance, man. Cause these were some dogs, man. He ain't play against no, no, no backyard boys over there. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, N. He played against some dogs today.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Guys. I, I think the difference in the ball game was Isaiah Evans, because every time St. John's made a run, they would get a lead. Evans would come down and get a three, they would do something else. And Evans would do. Would make another spectacular play. He was a difference. Like, yeah, Booze did what he did. Booze got that and one. And that was a phenomenal play. And his daddy, they pan the game and Booze was going crazy. But it was Evans because they took, they took the lead back Joe by two. And here come, and here come Isaiah Evans come back.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah, bang.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A deep three with a guy in his face. Yeah, that, that, that, that show, that shows me something there because I feel that they, if, if St. John's could have got to stop there maybe. Okay, now we go down and get another, get another basket. And now we got, you know, okay, you needed three to ties but he, he didn't waste any time. I mean he came back and he pulled it, he let it go, but bang. Right in his eye. Right in his eyes. And then it was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. You get, and you like Caleb Foster hit the, you know, he'll step back. It's just Duke, when Duke absolutely had to have it, the guys that they count on, they came through. And that's the mark of a good team when you absolutely gotta have something. Can your guys come through and make a play? When they needed a rebound, boom, they got it. When they needed a big shot, their guys hit it. St. John's didn't get that. And like you said, I'm looking at these big guys, I'm like, okay, yeah, these big, by a, these, these, these grown ass men out here. Duke, you know, Duke coming to, coming to play with 18, 19 year olds. St. John's come showing up with 21 year olds. There, there's a difference between the two. And I was just like, damn, I, I am shocked if somebody would have told me that Duke would out rebound St. John's by 13. Given what they have in size, wide immaturity, I wouldn't have believed it. Joe, there's not a chance in hell that I would, I wouldn't either because
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Liberty City Zone
coached by Rick Patino, you know, his team's always gritty, tough, they, they pick up full court and they play pressure defense. Even when you remember Unk back in the days when he was coaching them Kentucky teams, you know, you, you, you weren't going in, in Kentucky arenas, a RUP arena, you weren't going to know none of that. Ain't. But back to the Evans kid for Duke, you know, he got a chance to be a lottery pick, you know, this year. So if I'm him, I want to continue this pace. I want to continue my trajectory as far as being a lottery pick in this year's NBA draft. So I think you'll get good money from him, you know, with Duke. But they gonna need more than just them two guys to continue. I mean, this is. I mean, 80 points ain't bad, though, you know, in college, you know, when you think about it. But Arizona hung 100 and something on us, so I don't know.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
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Liberty City Zone
Oh, come on, man. Come on, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'll be a good one. They got UConn. Next we're gonna talk about UConn here. That's another great team. Two teams that get after you, that'll pick you up. The difference you see, Shire is kind of like more laid back. Dan Hurley is up.
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Liberty City Zone
He's up at it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He remind that guy that Bobby Knight. That. That. That is that guy. Yeah. Up. And, and, and, and. And right there, Coach Richardson in Arkansas Sh. A little bit more calm. He got, you know, he got a little.
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Liberty City Zone
He got.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got his Yukon gear on. I mean, excuse me, his gear on. You know, he. He. Them other guy. Dad heard it like, he about to have an. About that. Like. Bro, calm down. Damn. Hey, it's a timeout. Why you up yelling? It's a time out. They coming to the bench.
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Liberty City Zone
They passionate. They.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But he. He's really intense. But that's going to be a great matchup. I mean, you talk about, you know, just a year, two years ago, UConn went back to back two blue bloods, two teams that know what it's like to win championships, that has that pedigree, and you go there, you understand what's expected of you. The standard is the standard. The Standard was set 30 years before you arrived, before you were even born. The standard at UConn is the standard at UConn. The standard that Duke is the standard that Duke. And they were led. The programs were, you know, put on the map by hall of Fame coaches. Coach K. And then what's the guy you at UConn. What's his coach? What's the coach name at Yukon? The old coach.
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Liberty City Zone
I know who you talking about.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can't think of his name.
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Liberty City Zone
Some cow.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Jim Calhoun. Yeah, Jim Calhoun. All the great players. We know. All the great players that came through Duke. All the great players that came through UConn. And this is just. Hey, we just continue this pipeline, but it's gonna be. Oh, that's gonna be some kind of. That's gonna. What, they play Saturday, so that's gonna be.
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ISO Joe Johnson
No, Sunday.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sunday. Oh, that's gonna be something.
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Liberty City Zone
Oh, man, that's good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's gonna be.
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Liberty City Zone
It's getting good now. It's getting good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yukon, go ahead.
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Liberty City Zone
No, I was gonna say, we ain't just gonna just slide by St. John. Cause that's who you had winning. We smoking on that St. John's pack tonight.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You had said y' all going, too.
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Liberty City Zone
I'm saying my team went out yesterday. We talk about your team that you
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
had picked, we gonna talk about both
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ISO Joe Johnson
of y' all sitting there arguing. Guess who didn't have him winning. Guess who didn't have him winning.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, your mascot be out tomorrow.
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Liberty City Zone
You smoking on that St. John's pack tonight.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I got this little St. John pack right here.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah, okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look at Joe. You see how Joe do? See, Joe, I wasn't doing all that to you yesterday, man. Y'.
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ISO Joe Johnson
All.
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Liberty City Zone
Hey, look, y' all already had before we got online. It was already real ready for us.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on, man.
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Liberty City Zone
Them folks working overtime over there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't have nothing to do with that, Joe. I don't want Dragon. I might be the CEO of a company, but I ain't in charge of that.
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Liberty City Zone
Yes, you are.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If a shoe malfunction, you don't get mad. You don't get mad at a field night. You get mad at.
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Liberty City Zone
I'm just saying. I got.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why you mad at me? Cause you just think the graphics team. You think Bailey, you think this one and that one, and now you talking about me. I got.
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Liberty City Zone
Hey, look, I know who. I know who. I know the infrastructure now.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know who all working on the inside.
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Liberty City Zone
I know who up there. You know what I mean? I seen the names on there today, so.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Bailey.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't none of them.
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Liberty City Zone
You got them working overtime, though.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How y' all come out with a
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Liberty City Zone
real already game just was over two minutes ago.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, they had plenty of time to work on it. They saw y' all die by 20 with 15 minutes ago.
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Liberty City Zone
All right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gave a political. You gave a. Plenty of time to work on it. Yukon beat Michigan State to hang on to beat Michigan State. Tyrus Reed junior school scored 20 points. Alex Caravan had 17. Both made pressure pack free throws in the final minutes to help Yukon hold off Michigan State. I thought. I thought this game was going to be a blowout early. Give Michigan credit. Michigan State credit because they were down 15, 17 points early. And they fought more than that, clawed their way back in, made it respectable at half. All you got to do is let's. Let's, let's. Hey, let's go into the half. We can't be down. Let's not be down by more than five. If we could make it a ball can we got 20 minutes to do something. Give Michigan State credit but UConn 32 and 5 back to back national championship two years ago and it seems to be their only way. And hey, they're good team, they found ways but I think they're going to need. They're going to need. They're going to need more. Yes, they're going to need more. Their bench only gave them seven, only gave them eight points. They're going to need those guys going
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Liberty City Zone
to have, well, you know, you know Michigan State like them low scoring games. Yeah, they ain't, they, they ain't trying to play up.
- [18:55]
Lily Herman
Ready for a different take on Formula one? Look no further than no Grip, a new PODC tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herrmann, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.
- [19:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer moon.
- [19:16]
Lily Herman
The story of the sport's most consequential driver. Strike. We have one man who upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both?
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Aaliyah
He started getting all this attention and
- [19:35]
Lily Herman
he maybe started to think, I'm bigger
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Aaliyah
than this, I'm better.
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Lily Herman
And plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [19:54]
John Green
I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars. And now I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.
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Daniel Alarcon
I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.
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John Green
For us soccer football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.
- [20:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Very debatable.
- [20:30]
John Green
And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its Hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.
- [20:40]
Daniel Alarcon
Together, we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.
- [20:46]
John Green
Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [20:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm Daniel Jeremiah.
- [20:58]
Greg Rosenthal
And I'm Greg Rosenthal.
- [20:59]
Daniel Jeremiah
And this is 40s and free agents.
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Greg Rosenthal
The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.
- [21:07]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.
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Greg Rosenthal
This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually
- [21:20]
Daniel Jeremiah
matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts,
- [21:23]
Greg Rosenthal
and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built. Cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.
- [21:32]
Daniel Jeremiah
You got quarterbacks on the move.
- [21:33]
Greg Rosenthal
We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season.
- [21:37]
Daniel Jeremiah
Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team.
- [21:42]
Greg Rosenthal
Smart analysis, real conversations every week.
- [21:46]
Daniel Jeremiah
I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [21:58]
Miles Turner
What's up? I'm Miles Turner.
- [21:59]
Brianna Stewart
And I'm Brianna Stewart.
- [22:00]
Miles Turner
And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before.
- [22:04]
Brianna Stewart
Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.
- [22:10]
Miles Turner
Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.
- [22:13]
Brianna Stewart
What's the vibe of that? When it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave, and then actually, now I'm gonna stick. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the wnba.
- [22:28]
Miles Turner
And, yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, you know, doing this, doing whatever.
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Brianna Stewart
And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [22:56]
Wilmer Valderrama
Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and this is Freddy Rodriguez.
- [22:59]
Freddy Rodriguez
Welcome back to Dos Amigos.
- [23:01]
Wilmer Valderrama
Dos Amigos. Season two, baby.
- [23:04]
Freddy Rodriguez
This time, we're going even deeper into our careers, our lives, our art, and Everything in between.
- [23:09]
Wilmer Valderrama
Each episode emanates from our very own speakeasy, where we swap stories about the moments that really shaped us on and off camera.
- [23:17]
Freddy Rodriguez
What do we invest in right now? What is the immediate advice you give
- [23:21]
Wilmer Valderrama
people right now is to value time, to be cognizant of time and how important time is, because once the time is up, it's up, and then that's it.
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Freddy Rodriguez
And the relationships, collaborations, and even the failures that pushed us to grow. And the common denominator is that we have the same people with us since the, like, 30, 40 years ago.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Freddy Rodriguez
Like, we have a lot of the same homies that stuck around.
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Wilmer Valderrama
Plus, the door always stays open for a third amigo to pull up a chair. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tuda podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Liberty City Zone
The 80s and the 90s, they ain't what Michigan State do. You know, they. They don't even have them type of players. And I talk about game changers and game managers. I thought Michigan State, they play well as a team. So does UConn. Uncle Ocho. I think UConn just got, you know, they got some guys who can really take over and really be, you know, a game changer. They continue to take you, you know, farther in the tournament. Not only that, you know, they. They. They tough, gritty, play, aggressive. You know what I mean? Like, I know we playing. Everybody think basketball is just this finesse game, and you don't get to. Man, listen, you coming out there playing, bro. They competing. They competing. They touching you.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Uncle. You know what? I think the game.
- [24:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think they let them play a little bit more in college than what they do.
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Liberty City Zone
They do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They do. I'm like, damn. They do.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Liberty City Zone
I ain't gonna lie. I like. I like. Cause even when you see the verticality. Vertical. I can't even say the word. The vertical challenge. When guys are straight up.
- [24:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Verticality. Yeah.
- [24:54]
Liberty City Zone
You know, they don't call that. It don't matter how hard you run into a dude long as he don't come over.
- [24:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Liberty City Zone
You know what I mean? Yeah, I think. I think. I think you're right. I think they're a lot more aggressive in college than the pros. And the pros. Because, you know, guys gonna be flaking and flopping. They. They trying to sell a call.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Liberty City Zone
In college, you don't really get that. You know, you don't really get that in college. Guys, they competing.
- [25:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The guys don't Stay long enough and built up that kind of credit. You don't get a Christian Laitner, you're not getting a. A Duncan, you're not getting Bobby Hurley and Grant Hills. Guys that have played and officials know them since they're freshman, sophomore, junior. Here they are seniors playing. You don't get that anymore, Joe. So these guys here, they get good. Ain't no ifs and a. But hey, hey, I appreciate, I appreciate the hospitality. It was great being on campus for six months, but I'm out of here. So those days. So you're not going to get a player that if he's really good and he want it done.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
- [25:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It ain't. If he's halfway good, he's one and done. You're never going to get another Tim Duncan. You're never going to get another Kenyon Martin. Those days are over. Guys that stay four years are senior. Kenya Martin was the last senior to go number one overall. That was in 2000.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They.
- [26:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was. That was a quarter century ago. I don't believe you'll ever see it again because the guys are like, there's too much money at the next destination for me to stay.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Exactly. Hey, you know what I think it's gonna come down to? I think obviously, look at Duke, you look at Yukon, you look at what caravan and Reed Jr. Were able to do.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
And dominating and controlling the game, being the ones who are going to score the points. You look at Duke, they had two players. I think it's going to come down to what other players are going to contribute. Not just on the bench. I'm talking about. I'd ask starting five. You got two people that are gonna. They're going to be able to will themselves and score points when you want to. Then you have three that are somewhat just decoration on the court. I don't. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but I'm just saying there's really no contribution on the point side. They contribute in other areas, but I think as far as point scoring, someone else is going to have to step up. And obviously the bench. I think the bench is going to be very important for Duke and UConn. And who's able to come off the bench and contribute in those times, in those pressure situations to kind of. And not ease the pain, but make the game a little easier to take some of the pressure off of the starters.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah. Yeah. Well, Yukon, they. They really. They gonna take a collective team effort to really beat you, Uncle Ocho, you know, they ain't really just gonna rely on one guy like this. Even though Reed, he had a. He had a hell of a game. But they got other guys who can, who can step up and have big games as well. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The thing that concerns me about UConn is they got out rebounded by nine in Michigan. And Michigan State is not a big team.
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Liberty City Zone
They tough though, Michigan, but.
- [27:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So just. But just think about how Duke hits the glass with booze and the. The big kid, the other kid. That's going to be a lottery pick this if, if you let them get the glass like that. If you got out rebound, you get that right about 15. Because Duke. One thing they do, they hit the glass. Boozer gonna get those rebounds. I mean, he. We talked about it. He's 22 and 10. That's where he was tonight. 22 and 10. And I like the fact of the matter is that he doesn't press. I love Boozer because he doesn't press. He's like, okay, I don't worry about. I got a whole another half. Ain't no sense of me taking these willy nilly shots. I ain't going to jack up threes. I ain't finish shooting no fall away jumpers. I'm going to let it come. You watch him. He'll get easy baskets, he'll get a layup, he'll get a put back and next thing you know, he. He's in rhythm. He's getting to the free throw line. He's in a rhythm. Yukon gotta. UConn's gonna definitely have to play better than what they played today. And I expect him to. I expect Dan Hurley's gonna. Look, guys, hey, we gotta. We happy we won. Survive in advance. We won the ball game. But in order for us to go to the final four, we're gonna have to beat the number one overall seed, a team that by many thought would. Was picked to win it at the beginning of the season. And we're gonna have to play one of our best games of the year in order to.
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Liberty City Zone
I agree. But, but, but remember what we was talking about, the experience. They ain't got nothing but juniors and seniors. Okay, Ocho?
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Liberty City Zone
You know, they. They got some guys with experience. So that experience against that freshman talent that Duke has, I think it can help. I think it can help UConn in, in, you know, in a different way. Like it can help. I think it can help them propel and win the game is what I'm saying. I can see them being dude, but I can, too.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what concerns me is that for those guys to be pressured and to be in that situation, I thought they handled the pressure well. I thought Duke guards handled the pressure well. Because we know Michigan, we know ISO teams like to pressure you, like to get up and tell you. And I thought they did a great job of handling that. So they weren't of the moment. They weren't like, damn, I just left high school seven months ago. What the hell I'm doing out here? There's like, I. Hey, yeah, we do. And I think it has a lot to do with the expectations you go to. Do you know what expectations are? You know, the. You know, you. And you see guys. I mean, I don't know how many of these guys were there in the summer. And you see the guys come back. You see Zion, and you see all these other guys come back, and RJ Barrett and. And Tatum and this one and that one, and Ingram and this one. And they come back and, hey, don't you mess up. Dawkins and Amaker and Danny Fair, they started this. And Layton and Chris here, and Christian Laitner and all these guys, they continue this and so forth and so on. So don't y' all mess this up. We got a great story.
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Liberty City Zone
I agree. I agree.
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ISO Joe Johnson
It's gonna be a good one. Who you got? Who you got? Y' all brackets all messed up. We got Joe Sunday, Duke, and you come.
- [30:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I just can't pick Duke.
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Liberty City Zone
You say you can't pick Duke. Why?
- [30:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You just gotta be abd. Anybody but Duke.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I forgot. I forgot. Who you got, Joe? Who?
- [30:55]
Liberty City Zone
They play Duke. Play who again?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yukon.
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Liberty City Zone
I'm talking about. Oh, they play Yukon. Yeah, I'm. I got. I think I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna go Yukon, bro. Yeah, I. I'm gonna go Yukon. Because the experience that they have, and I just feel like. Yeah, I know. Boo's gonna give you 20 and 10. I don't know if Evan's gonna continue to play at that level he played at today.
- [31:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He shot the lights out today.
- [31:23]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah. I mean, hey, hey.
- [31:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know. I don't know if he'll have another autobody experience like that Joe and Ocho, but he shot the lights out of the ball today.
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Liberty City Zone
I know. And I say he doesn't play if
- [31:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
he doesn't have this game. They're not advancing, Ocho. They're not advancing. If he doesn't play like he played today, they're not advancing.
- [31:42]
Liberty City Zone
That's why I said that, and that's why If I'm him, if I'm the Evans kid, I'm thinking to myself, man, listen, my draft stock can continue to rise if I just continue to keep playing, you know, great basketball. He gonna have to. He gonna have to give him 20. He gonna have to give him 20 plus a game, too. Now, I know we putting a lot on booze, but. But Evans, you know, he done been there. He been playing on this big stage. Booze been playing on this big stage since he school aau. Yeah, yeah, they're new to it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, when your dad is who you. You know, first of all, if you play a sport that your dad played, you already know what the expectations are.
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ISO Joe Johnson
You got to deal with the comparisons.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That.
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Daniel Jeremiah
That as well.
- [32:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You. You got. You know what?
- [32:23]
Liberty City Zone
It's messed up. It's messed up, too, because I don't know about y', all, but me as a father, it's like, you know, with my son playing basketball, you know what I mean? It's like, I can't really. It's hard for me to really get on him like, I really want to, because they, like, man, he ain't you. He ain't. I'm like, bro, I'm giving you the game. I'm telling you how to beat these suckers out here, man. I got the blueprint.
- [32:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Joe, it's easier for somebody else to coach yourself.
- [32:52]
Liberty City Zone
I already know it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was trying to. Hey, I was like, you know what? Hey, listen to them. I mean, forget the fact that, hey, I was on super bowl winning teams. I was a Pro Bowler. I was all pro catching the football. But you know what?
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Liberty City Zone
Listen to the guy.
- [33:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That. That play didn't go farther.
- [33:07]
Liberty City Zone
That's all I'm saying, bro.
- [33:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're right.
- [33:08]
Liberty City Zone
That's all I'm saying.
- [33:12]
ISO Joe Johnson
You're right. You right.
- [33:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So. But, you know, as a father, if you were a professional athlete and your son plays the sport that you played, see, if he plays a different sport, they're like, okay, his dad was a basketball player. Yeah, football player. Or his dad was a football player, he a basketball player. Oh, he a baseball player. But when you play that same sport, the expectations, whether it's fair or unfair, people automatically. But, bro, that's the genes. I mean that.
- [33:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, always.
- [33:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And it is. And it is what it is. And, you know, talking to. Talking to Griffey Jr. And Griffey Jr. Like, it was just hard to watch his son play, he said, because he would go there and be sitting in the stands and. And people say he ain't nothing. Like you and Griffith and juniors. And Griffith say, well, tell me five people. And so it's the same thing. Griffin said, like, when his dad would come see him play, he couldn't do nothing. He said his dad would have to sneak up in the RV and just watch from a distance. He wouldn't know his dad was there, he said, but when his mom come, his dad would call. His mom said, what that boy do? Oh, he. I. I think he was like three for four. Two homes. Why did he do that when I was there? Yeah, why the hell did he do that when I was there? But it's. It's just like. I mean, just imagine you're Peyton Manning. His daddy was Archie, number two pick in the draft. You know, the expectations are. Ocho, yo, my kid, your kid. My, My son just said, I. I don't want it. I don't want to do that. My dad played. I got my uncle. I don't want no parts of that.
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Liberty City Zone
Why I think it's so hard to duplicate, though? Like, that's why I respect.
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ISO Joe Johnson
I don't know.
- [35:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joe.
- [35:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
Out.
- [35:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe, you didn't have. You didn't have. Just imagine if your dad played in the NBA. So you got. You got to smooth right along. Like, damn, man, Joe really good. There was no comparison. Automatically I had to get compared to my. My brother, three years older than me. He's a senior, I'm a freshman. So the comparisons are there. I'm like, well, damn, he my brother, not my dad. I know we got. I know we got. We got the same last name, the same parents, but damn, but I embrace that. It's hard to live up to that. Expect those.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah, that.
- [35:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That others put on you. You might not even like, hey, I'm just going along. I'm just like, hey, I. I don't know.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, you know, Joe, Joe. And that's how I think it was with my. My son. Obviously, my son. Hey, Joe played Arizona State. He played receiver out there at Arizona State, played Adventist High School.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
And obviously it was the Arizona State. But Jaden Daniels, before Jaden, transferred over to the goddamn lsu.
- [36:03]
Liberty City Zone
Really?
- [36:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
I didn't. I didn't understand the, The.
- [36:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The.
- [36:05]
ISO Joe Johnson
The pressures and the comparisons, you know, to it. But I think my son got to a point where I think he was somewhat fed up with it. I think he, in a sense, he kind of played football because I did it. I don't think it was really his first love. It wasn't really his first love. That's not what he did.
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Liberty City Zone
Right, right, right. Right.
- [36:20]
ISO Joe Johnson
I think he did just because I did it.
- [36:22]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
- [36:22]
ISO Joe Johnson
I think probably the comparisons to him, I don't know if it got to him a little bit, but I don't think he loved the game the way I did. You know, maybe his aspirations, his dreams, maybe it wasn't to play in the NFL.
- [36:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, he had a belly full. He had a nice air conditioned home.
- [36:36]
Liberty City Zone
You're right.
- [36:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, he didn't have the same stimuli that you had.
- [36:40]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that's a whole, that's a whole different ball. And that's what I tell people. My son's stimuli. My son got to come in and hit the garage on the three car garage on the 10,000 home. Shadow didn't have no garage. Shannon had cinder block floors. I mean, a cinder block home with cement floors.
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ISO Joe Johnson
It's different. It's different. You got to really want it. You got to really want it. Got to be something that you really love to do, you know? And I, I don't think he really, really love the game like that. And, and I'm, I'm one. And Joe, you know, I don't, I don't push my kids to do nothing.
- [37:11]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, me neither, bro.
- [37:14]
ISO Joe Johnson
I support you. But if it's not what you want to do, whatever endeavors you, endeavors, it is that you, you, that, that, that attract you and interest you. I'm all for it. I'm, I'm behind whatever it is.
- [37:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now.
- [37:24]
ISO Joe Johnson
My youngest son, Savvy. Hey, he different mentally. He different.
- [37:28]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, he's.
- [37:29]
ISO Joe Johnson
He's the dog and he actually wants it. Ain't got nothing to do with me. And he don't care nothing about no comparisons because he talking trash to me already as a sophomore in high school. Somebody.
- [37:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm better than you.
- [37:39]
Liberty City Zone
He a receiver, Ocho.
- [37:40]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. Dad, I'm better than. What you mean you better than me? Well, you better check, you better check YouTube.
- [37:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who you talking to?
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he's a different kind of animal. So I could see him already, you know, playing on Sunday. And just because his mentality, you know. Yeah, he wanted.
- [37:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's really simple. Oh, I was the same way. I tell them, I can't want something more for you than you want it for yourself. I'm not going to push you in any direction, but all I ask, don't waste my time and money.
- [38:10]
Liberty City Zone
Well, I'm telling you, if you want
- [38:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
to do this, if you need a coach, if you need whatever you need, I will get you whatever you need to help you be the absolute best you can be in what you Want to do. But don't waste my time and money. If that's not what you want to do, don't do it because your mom wanted to do. Don't do it because your friends do it. Do it because you want to do it. And if you want to do it, I'm gonna move heaven and earth to try to make sure you get the best so you can.
- [38:42]
Liberty City Zone
I agree. I agree.
- [38:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's it. That's that.
- [38:45]
Liberty City Zone
That's.
- [38:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's all I ask. Don't waste my time and don't waste my money. If you want to be. You want to be an astronaut. Hell, if I gotta call Neil Tyson the garage. Hey, bro, check this out. My son's. Hey, I need to get some advice. I don't. Hey, I'm just saying, Joe, I would do. I would do whatever I can, but if that's not what you want to do, it's. It's. It's. It's hard growing up in the shadows because there's a separation between you and your. Your kids. But just think, me and my brother every. Everything. Bro, you ain't good. Your brother, boy. Your brother. Oh, man, your brother been gone. Oh, your brother did that. Your brother did, man. Your brother ran 10, five. Man, you ain't running. But damn, that's still pretty fast, so. But it ain't never bothered me. See, I didn't. I didn't live in my brother's shadow. I embraced it. So when they told me, oh, you ain't as good as your brother, I'm
- [39:47]
Liberty City Zone
gonna show you, right?
- [39:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I' ma show you. Now, as a high schooler, I could have been better had I applied myself. I was just so much more talented than everybody else on show. I ain't do no work in high school. Lifted weights for what?
- [40:01]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, me neither, man.
- [40:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I lift them tobacco racks. I lift them bales of hay. I lifted watermelons and bushels of corn and onions. That's what I lifted to get this body. Once I got to college and I started lifting weights and I saw my body change. Oh, my. Oh, Joe. I went from like 180 to 205. So when we stopped playing football in. In November, and by the time we had spring practice, I was 205. Chiseled. What?
- [40:33]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, man.
- [40:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My brother came. When my brother came and saw me, he said, man, what you been doing? What they feed you in Savannah State? I say, they don't feed us in Savannah State like they feed y' all in South Carolina, that's for damn sure. Then he Came back my junior year. Now I'm like 220.
- [40:52]
ISO Joe Johnson
God, anywhere from 205 out of 220.
- [40:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, he told me, he told me my junior year, he said, you don't live because I want to be. I say, I want to be a member of the 46 club. He say, 46. What? I said, no, I want to bench 400 pounds to squat 600. He said, you gonna lift yourself into a three point stance? I be a damn. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. He told me by junior high in college, he said, you'll lift yourself into a three point stand.
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ISO Joe Johnson
That's crazy. You was part of the four six club.
- [41:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. No, I didn't, I didn't squat for I, I, I was, I could be 400. I could never squat six.
- [41:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
Okay, okay. I was part of the 36 club then when I was at, when in Cincinnati. Now. When I was in Cincinnati, I was still, I was, I was thin framed, Joe. I mean, the big, the biggest I got in Cincinnati, probably about, about 190. Yeah, I could bench 315. I would work out with the linebacker sometime and I work out with the officer lineman. When it came to doing the lower body work on, I think, what, Fridays, we did lower body. Yeah, Fridays, Joe.
- [41:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I cut leg. You cut. You're supposed to cut legs off on Thursday. You don't do no legs after that. You don't want your legs heavy. Your legs wouldn't be heavy.
- [42:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
You, you did last, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember the schedule exactly, but I used to work out with the lineman, so, you know, I squat by 650 to 670, Joe.
- [42:12]
Liberty City Zone
Damn.
- [42:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, Joe.
- [42:15]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
- [42:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
- [42:16]
Liberty City Zone
Oh, he lying.
- [42:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If, if, if at 190 he squatting 670, 700, he. Is he one of the strongest men ever to le.
- [42:23]
ISO Joe Johnson
One of the strongest men. I might be one of the strongest men that ever played in the NFL. It's just nobody sees it.
- [42:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know about all that.
- [42:30]
ISO Joe Johnson
Frame is so small, so you never know, man.
- [42:32]
Liberty City Zone
Listen.
- [42:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I do, though. I look at the legs. First of all, your hips ain't wide enough to hold that kind of weight. You look at guys that squat a lot of weight.
- [42:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. I got hips like a fat person.
- [42:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you talking about, man?
- [42:44]
Liberty City Zone
Come on.
- [42:48]
ISO Joe Johnson
I ain't gonna show it to you right now because that's inappropriate.
- [42:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But yeah, hey, I might give you, I might give you, I might give you 450 with a squats. I might give you, I might give you 450475 with a single ply or double ply suit, but just, just, just with just a belt.
- [43:06]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, all right, maybe,
- [43:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
maybe with a single plastic.
- [43:12]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm glad you said that, Joe. As I post my videos, you know, doing 120, 150s on the dumbbells, right?
- [43:18]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
- [43:19]
ISO Joe Johnson
When I get back to Miami on Sunday, I'm gonna make sure. Monday gym session, I'm gonna do legs, which is normally an upper body day. I'm make sure I put 475 or 500 on the rack and do one rep. So when we get on the show.
- [43:31]
Liberty City Zone
Well, you gonna do one squat or you.
- [43:34]
ISO Joe Johnson
I do, I do, I do two. I do two.
- [43:36]
Liberty City Zone
Okay. All right, all right.
- [43:37]
ISO Joe Johnson
I do two reps.
- [43:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He ain't fit to do no. He ain't fit to do no barbell squat. Not with no.
- [43:42]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm regular squat.
- [43:43]
Liberty City Zone
Oo. Don't catch no hernia out there, man.
- [43:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm good, Joe.
- [43:46]
ISO Joe Johnson
I, I, I, I, I don't care. I don't get.
- [43:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you gonna be walking around your knee like mine.
- [43:52]
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't get hurt, Joe. I don't never get hurt, Joe.
- [43:55]
Liberty City Zone
Also, you boo. You booby. You booby Johnson on Friday night flight.
- [43:59]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't know if that's it, Joe. I don't. God been good to me, especially when it comes to injury, Joe. I ain't really had. Sustained nothing.
- [44:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, don't get. No, don't. Don't be trying to squat, though. Hey, your squat, your heavy squatting days go there. Do 20, 25. Keep your fire nation strong, keep your glutes. Because, hey, the more leg muscle you have to eat, the longer you. It's proven longer, you're gonna probably live. So take care of your leg, your bottom half, you're gonna be fine. You'll need squats.
- [44:23]
ISO Joe Johnson
I was just trying to show you, Uncle.
- [44:25]
Liberty City Zone
Trying to show you just don't speak.
- [44:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't. Hey, you good? Hey, get up under the machine. I think they got built squats. They got pendulum squats. They got other squat apparatuses that you don't need to put that barbell on your damn back. You do dumbbell squats?
- [44:40]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm just trying to show you that I can do it. That's all. That's all. You'll never believe me unless you, Unless you have visual evidence. That's all I'm saying.
- [44:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, I ain't gonna believe you died. And y' all got fake weights. They got so many people on on IG not doing fake Weights where I'm
- [44:54]
ISO Joe Johnson
getting fake weights from, man.
- [44:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Easy. Michigan beat Alabama. The Wolverines had the most overall play on the floor. Yaxel Lindenborg who did it all tonight finishing just three shot, three assist shot with triple double. He had 23 points, 12 rebounds. Michigan was the more efficient than Alabama for three point range connected on 13 to 27 attempts. Alabama, hey. Alabama held on as long as they could. Feel young Junior LeBaron Field, y'. All.
- [45:27]
Liberty City Zone
That's what I'm talking about. Game change. You need guys who can get to get, get to that chicken ocho. Hey, who can get to that?
- [45:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who got a bag?
- [45:34]
Liberty City Zone
Hey man, we need if you a score. Yeah, perfect.
- [45:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We need you to, we need you
- [45:38]
Liberty City Zone
to get some buckets. The rest of us, we can do the dirty work.
- [45:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
One more guy to come along with him. He needed one more guy because Michigan had too many guys.
- [45:45]
Liberty City Zone
They got 33 points, they missing 20.
- [45:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he needed what?
- [45:49]
Liberty City Zone
He needed another guy, you know, they missing 20 points a game, you know.
- [45:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot he hurt, hurt, hurt.
- [45:56]
Lily Herman
You ready for a different take on Formula one? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.
- [46:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun Cancer moon.
- [46:19]
Lily Herman
The story of the sport's most consequential driver. Strike. We have one man who upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom and was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both.
- [46:35]
Aaliyah
He started getting all this attention and
- [46:38]
Lily Herman
he maybe started to think like, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:57]
John Green
I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in our Stars and now I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.
- [47:06]
Daniel Alarcon
I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love on our new Podcast the away end. We'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for us.
- [47:24]
John Green
Soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.
- [47:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Very debatable.
- [47:33]
John Green
And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.
- [47:43]
Daniel Alarcon
Together, we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.
- [47:49]
John Green
Listen to the away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:59]
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm Daniel Jeremiah.
- [48:01]
Greg Rosenthal
And I'm Greg Rosenthal.
- [48:02]
Daniel Jeremiah
And this is 40s and free agents.
- [48:05]
Greg Rosenthal
Games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.
- [48:10]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.
- [48:17]
Greg Rosenthal
This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually
- [48:23]
Daniel Jeremiah
matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts,
- [48:26]
Greg Rosenthal
and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.
- [48:35]
Daniel Jeremiah
You got quarterbacks on the move.
- [48:36]
Greg Rosenthal
We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season.
- [48:39]
Daniel Jeremiah
Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team.
- [48:45]
Greg Rosenthal
Smart analysis, real conversations every week.
- [48:49]
Daniel Jeremiah
I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:01]
Miles Turner
What's up? I'm Miles Turner.
- [49:02]
Brianna Stewart
And I'm Brianna Stewart.
- [49:03]
Miles Turner
And our podcast, game recognized game, has never been done before.
- [49:07]
Brianna Stewart
Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.
- [49:13]
Miles Turner
Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.
- [49:16]
Brianna Stewart
What's the vibe of that? When it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like, definitely happening in the wnba.
- [49:31]
Miles Turner
And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. No, you know, doing this, doing whatever.
- [49:42]
Brianna Stewart
And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you Miss that, Mommy. Do you play basketball? Check out game recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [49:59]
Wilmer Valderrama
Hey, I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and this is Freddy Rodriguez.
- [50:02]
Freddy Rodriguez
Welcome back to Dos Amigos.
- [50:04]
Wilmer Valderrama
Dos Amigos, season two, baby.
- [50:07]
Freddy Rodriguez
This time, we're going even deeper into our careers, our lives, our art, and everything in between.
- [50:12]
Wilmer Valderrama
Each episode emanates from our very own speakeasy, where we swap stories about the. The moments that really shaped us on and off camera.
- [50:20]
Freddy Rodriguez
What do we invest in right now? What is the immediate advice you give
- [50:24]
Wilmer Valderrama
people right now is to value time, to be cognizant of time and how important time is, because once the time is up, it's up, and then that's it.
- [50:33]
Freddy Rodriguez
And the relationships, collaborations, and even the failures that pushed us to grow. And the common denominator is that we have the same people with us since, like, 30, 40 years ago.
- [50:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [50:43]
Freddy Rodriguez
Like, we have a lot of the same homies that stuck around.
- [50:45]
Wilmer Valderrama
Plus, the door always stays open for a third amigo to pull up a chair. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tuda Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [51:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your guy tried to be free, Ross.
- [51:02]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, but if they'd had him, they definitely. They. They probably would have really had a chance.
- [51:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They definitely had a chance. Yeah, but I ain't know. I ain't know, Phil. Y' all was not that nice. You know, you. You see clip, you saw. I see highlights of him and stuff like that. Now. He could.
- [51:16]
Liberty City Zone
He could.
- [51:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [51:16]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah. I got a chance to watch Alabama play a few times because they in the sec, obviously playing against my Razorback. So they got some guys who can go who, you know, and they got some. Some tough, gritty guys, too. They got some tough, gritty guys. So they.
- [51:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
- [51:29]
Liberty City Zone
They pretty good.
- [51:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, people look at Alabama and people just think Alabama football. Yeah, but Alabama used to have basketball.
- [51:36]
Liberty City Zone
What you talking about?
- [51:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, you. You know, you. They had Ori went to Alabama for them. They had Free with Alabama. Yeah.
- [51:48]
Liberty City Zone
They had a Gerald Wallace. I played with Gerald.
- [51:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, before then. That's before your time. They had Bobby Lee hurt. They had Ena Swatley. Oh, they had come guys.
- [51:57]
Liberty City Zone
They got some dogs, some. Some boys raised down. Down deep in the South.
- [52:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Mac, hey, prior to him getting hurt, Antonio, nice.
- [52:11]
Liberty City Zone
I play with McDyess.
- [52:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm talking about. You talking about 6, 10 and can leave the building.
- [52:18]
Liberty City Zone
He's like that Ocho I'm talking about.
- [52:21]
ISO Joe Johnson
He can jump like that.
- [52:22]
Liberty City Zone
Goodness head tap. That boy. That boy could fly. That boy could fly.
- [52:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Before we hurt that knee. Oh, he was. Hey. Cause I was in. I was in Denver when he got there.
- [52:32]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [52:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was at Brian Steeles came there. Lafonso Ellis. I was there when Jalen Rose got there. All of Dikembe Mutumbo, all of them Rodney Rogers, Mello. So. So. Hey, but McDyess, Lord have mercy, man. Before he hurt that knee, he was something to deal.
- [52:54]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, he want nothing to play with. That boy was serious.
- [52:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was like that. But Bama has some.
- [53:00]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, they normally keep. They normally keep some Hoopers, though.
- [53:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
- [53:03]
Liberty City Zone
They basketball team.
- [53:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Really?
- [53:05]
Liberty City Zone
They may not. Obviously, you know, we know what the football side, what the football program does, but basketball wise, they rarely ever slouches now.
- [53:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
- [53:13]
Liberty City Zone
They normally keep some. Some pretty good guys over there.
- [53:16]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I know that. I think Alabama football overshadowed they so goddamn good.
- [53:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It does, it does, it does. It's just like Michigan football. Michigan has some players. A couple basketball players come out here too. Now, you don't sleep on Michigan basketball
- [53:32]
Liberty City Zone
players, but Michigan, that's a football school, huh?
- [53:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I mean, people just talk about the Fab Five, but hey, man, when they had Glenn Rice and Mills and all those guys, they had some guys.
- [53:44]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, now they had some guys. They had some guys.
- [53:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But the number one seed so far, other than Florida advanced. Who does Michigan play next?
- [53:53]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, you, you. You see. You see 10.
- [53:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, they play Tennessee.
- [54:00]
Liberty City Zone
You see Michigan got a lot of juniors and seniors too.
- [54:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hey, they.
- [54:06]
Liberty City Zone
They got experience that they. That they banking on, but they got guys playing well. The one thing though that I noticed about their bigs, man, they can pass. I'm tell y' all something, man, in today's game.
- [54:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [54:18]
Liberty City Zone
You got any young Hoopers is out there listening? Chad. Y', all. Y' all hear me out, man. Having a great IQ for the game, knowing how to pass, knowing how to play the right way. That'll get you a long way, bro. Michigan got some guys on. I'm talking about them back doe passes. When you got them guys playing over aggressive.
- [54:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [54:39]
Liberty City Zone
Setting, picking roles for your bigs and they can play make. They take a lot of pressure off your guards for guys who really can't get by their man like that.
- [54:46]
ISO Joe Johnson
Right, right, right.
- [54:47]
Liberty City Zone
You know what I mean? You got different ways to get open to exploit the game and manipulate it in so many different ways when you're big is versatile like that. That's why Yoke is so special, man. Look at Jokic.
- [54:58]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [55:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you see what he had? You saw?
- [55:01]
Liberty City Zone
No, what he had 33, 14, 12.
- [55:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
33, 14 and 12. Yo.
- [55:07]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, he playing in our face right now. Y' all know that, right? That man playing our favor.
- [55:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, we.
- [55:13]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, hey. Y' all think he don't hear the chatters about who should be mvp? He always gonna be in it. But the man has a triple double for sure.
- [55:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think you know what it is, Joe. Give me a guy that has. That has iq, Be it football, basketball, baseball. Because a lot of times, oh, we play with guys, dude. Robotic, you say, hey, bro, this right 10 to 20, where the guy standing right there, you go run behind. Dumb. Dumb. Don't run behind him. The quarterback ain't gonna throw you the damn ball. You run behind the db. Cut in front of him, man. You know what? Hey, I saw, bro.
- [55:49]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, IQ make a huge boy.
- [55:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I. Son, I hate to tell you this, but if Dynamite were brains, you couldn't blow your nose. Come on over there.
- [55:58]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, and Joe, the better your iq, especially when it comes to the game of football, obviously. I'm sure basketball is the same way where you can see what's going to happen before it happens, or knowing what's going to happen actually before it happens to be two steps ahead of everybody else at times. At times, I could just speak for me playing receiver. Joke.
- [56:16]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
- [56:17]
ISO Joe Johnson
Always two or three steps ahead of the person in front of me.
- [56:20]
Liberty City Zone
Right.
- [56:20]
ISO Joe Johnson
Two or three ahead of the safety. Because I understand what you have to do and I know where you're going to be. So understanding how to manipulate what's in front of me and give the illusion that I'm doing something that I'm really not going to do.
- [56:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [56:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
So I can get the spot I need to get to as fast as hell.
- [56:34]
Liberty City Zone
I understand it.
- [56:36]
ISO Joe Johnson
You know what I mean?
- [56:36]
Liberty City Zone
I think.
- [56:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [56:38]
Liberty City Zone
I think you may. I think you may even have to have that in basketball more than you do in football, especially if you got
- [56:44]
ISO Joe Johnson
the ball in your hand.
- [56:46]
Liberty City Zone
I don't.
- [56:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, because the floor, if things happen,
- [56:48]
Liberty City Zone
you have to understand floor spacing. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest key. Especially these young guys who really don't know how to play the game. You know, they don't understand floor spacing and getting deep corner getting out your man way. You know, you got a guy operating, you standing right next to him. Cut. You know, you have a lot of these cats gotta learn, Ocho, because they all growing up with the ball in their Hand. And when they don't have it in their hand, they just look like statues out there. They don't know what the hell to do.
- [57:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [57:17]
ISO Joe Johnson
And you know, Uncle Joe, you know what they always say when it comes to sports? The game, especially once you get to the highest level, the game is 90. Mental, hello. It's only 10. Physical, hello. Middle. Because. So now it. It all comes to how much you know up here. How can you see the game and see things before they actually happen?
- [57:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [57:36]
ISO Joe Johnson
Always having a plan. If plan they don't go right, how fast can you. Can you. Can you reenact? Yeah, it happened with plan B. Yeah. Being able to adjust on the fly.
- [57:46]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
- [57:46]
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean it, man. It's. Oh, it's.
- [57:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what makes me so upset. Ocho is that. And we talk about this all the time. I say, ocho, he got help to the inside. Why would he get beat outside when he know he got help inside? If you got help outside, why would you get beat inside? That's what kills me. You see the guy. You see that safety coming down? If you see the safety coming down, what do you think the man on top of your head gonna do? He going inside, the safety is coming down because now he has outside containment. Bro, how you get beat on that? Man, I ain't. What you mean. You didn't know? Did you watch film? They did it on film 10 times, but every time. But give me your phone right quick. Let me see how many phone numbers you got in the last. The last last five days you got that. You wrote all them down, but you don't remember these?
- [58:43]
Liberty City Zone
Damn.
- [58:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Please. See, that's O.C. joe. That's why I couldn't coach, man. It. It drove me crazy that we go over stuff and they show up on film. They're gonna give you this look. It's just like Spags. We already know if spag get you. If. If. If Spags feel threatened, he's coming with pressure. You know that it's coming. Why is it in a situation that we've gone over and over and over and over, you effing up.
- [59:17]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, I know. Hey, I know exactly what he mean, boy.
- [59:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, you know, it's chopping. It ain't okay. It is not okay. Stop telling me that it's okay. It ain't.
- [59:29]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, damn.
- [59:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, bro, how. And you mean to tell me. So let me get this straight. You can't remember one damn play, but you quick to tell me. I got 1300 on the SAT.
- [59:40]
Daniel Jeremiah
I gotta.
- [59:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I gotta. I got a 30 over act. I can't tell who took the test for you.
- [59:47]
Liberty City Zone
Oh,
- [59:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
your SAT must have been just, what is this, a square, a rectangle, or a circle? Because ain't no way in hell you can't remember this, but you got a 13, 1400 SAT, bro. It. That's. That's why I. I just. I just don't have the patience. I just. I. I don't. I try. I just don't. Because if I can get it, and I know when I got there, I didn't know nothing. I ain't know nothing about no over, no under. I didn't know about no coverages. I know no 2. I ain't no 1, I ain't no no 6, I ain't no quarters. I ain't no 7, I ain't no 8. I ain't no nothing. And for me to pick it up and to be able to do flourish. Lord have mercy. I get mad every time I think about somebody that effed up a coverage.
- [60:39]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. Joe. I ain't had no choice but to get it, Joe. Had no choice.
- [60:43]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, none of us had a choice, Ocho.
- [60:45]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I talked to I, too. I talked too much not to get it, Joe.
- [60:49]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [60:52]
ISO Joe Johnson
I had to be on top of my game.
- [60:54]
Liberty City Zone
Oh, yeah?
- [60:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Cause if you don't talk people out their game, you. But you talking. You worried about me. You got the flat here. You carry me up the scene. Yeah. Nothing today. Your black ass supposed to be in the flat. Why you worried about me up the scene? Oh, man, but you ain't. They would rather. They would rather shut you down, Ocho. Blow an assignment saying I. You ain't catch no pass. As opposed. You got the flat, you got hood.
- [61:23]
Liberty City Zone
Ain't that. Yeah,
- [61:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I just. Man, I be thinking about stuff. I said, Lord, have mercy. I said, Lord, you could have. I said, I wouldn't mind, Lord, if you took a little bit of talent and gave me more patience. He gave me all talent. No patience.
- [61:45]
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, I, I. I can see you. I can still see you coaching for some reason. Hey, even. Even though. Hey, Joe. Even though he say I don't have the patience for it, but I understand that what he could do, especially with his structure and discipline when it comes to playing whatever sport it may be, whether it's football, whether it's basketball, but being that he knows both really well. Yeah, I can see, Coach. Especially at the highest level. You get somebody like that in the
- [62:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
building, man, stop playing because it's hard, Ocho. I mean, it's hard to develop this level of discipline if you're not already disciplined. Discipline.
- [62:20]
ISO Joe Johnson
No, that's what. That's what you got.
- [62:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's got. I mean, you're like. I mean, it's just like it's obsessive. I mean, it's. It's a. I don't know. I don't know if I want somebody as disciplined as I was, Ocho, because it ain't. It ain't healthy. And the thing is that it drives you crazy. Because everything. My grandfather. It had to be right. And so I always tried to do everything because there ain't no if. He didn't like, if you. It wasn't no good job. I remember he told me and my brother. Well, he gave us. He gave. Told me and my brother to watch the truck. He gave us a dollar. No, he gave us two dollars. He gave us like 350. I got a dollar because I just watched the tires. My brother was in charge of washing the truck, the body, dried it off and do all that other stuff. We were going to have to run the cows. Papa, Papa, we done. He come out there and look at it. He looked at me and Spanking. Standing side by side. He looked at the truck. He looked at me and Spanky. He looked at the truck, he looked at me and Spanky. Don't laugh, y'. All. He say, anything is better than nothing. But you two fellas real close together. I look, I live with Daniel. I thought we did a good. Oh, Joe. I thought we did a good job. Hey, hey, you know what I need? I need my brother. See, my sister don't like when we tell the story, but that joker was hard.
- [63:53]
Liberty City Zone
He was hard on. Yeah, there was.
- [63:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There. There was. There was no excuses. He didn't. He didn't tolerate excuses. He did not damn either. Get it. I was like that. I'm like. And I've been speaking. Walking up. He like, we real close to. Yeah, that's what he said. So.
- [64:16]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, hey, listen.
- [64:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I. I couldn't. I could. I couldn't do it. O I. I couldn't do it. It took a lot. Because, you know, when you have kids, you have to develop a certain level of relationship. I'm talking about patience to the up degree. Because, like, like wet in the bed. They gave you two youth about two years old, maybe two and a half, three. Boy, if you was four years old, let alone five, six, seven. They were teasing you.
- [64:44]
Liberty City Zone
They were teasing.
- [64:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Teasing. Boy, Barney Porter, shut down on your ass. Mary Porter, go shut down on your ass. Oh, Hell, no. Like, somebody. And I like, you know, kids have problems where they. You know, they wet the bed. It's a lot of things. Like, a lot of this stuff like you had. But they beat that Apache. All that. You all. All those. That what kids have now talking about, you know, he got eight, you know.
- [65:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, listen. Hey, Joe, back in them days, you know, it wasn't no adhd. You were just stupid. That's it.
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Liberty City Zone
You was.
- [65:27]
ISO Joe Johnson
You were stupid.
- [65:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. They tell you, guess what? They tear your ass up, and all of a sudden you're like, damn, I could do this homework so good. Oh, four plus four is eight. Eight times four is 32. Oh, I could do my homework. What would Barney and Mary shut down on your ass? I could read. I'm like, damn, this so easy, boy. You know, a whipping. Solve everything in the South.
- [65:53]
ISO Joe Johnson
Everything.
- [65:53]
Liberty City Zone
You got him.
- [65:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you. Hey. Hey, Grandma, I'm gonna tell this story. We gonna go. My granny used to have a saying that, like, my aunts never come in the house. And, you know, they wouldn't speak because my grandfather was big in that. You couldn't walk in his house and not speak. But you know how women. I mean, they. They teenage girls, you know, they might be on their cycle or whatever, and they walk in the house and then it wouldn't say anything to him. My grandfather say, is there something on your mind you want on your ass? No, sir. Hey, hey, look at. Oh, joy. Joe, I'm telling you, y' all need to get my brother boy part of it play that. All that coming in the house and all that sucking your teeth and slamming the doors. No. When you walk into the house, it's, yes, sir. Hey, good morning, good morning, good afternoon, good night, whatever the case may be, but don't you walk in that man house and don't.
- [66:47]
Liberty City Zone
Boy. Hey, man. Hey, y'.
- [66:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
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Liberty City Zone
When I was in elementary, bro, we were still. You still getting paddles? You get paddled?
- [66:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, we have.
- [66:54]
ISO Joe Johnson
We had paddles.
- [66:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was in high school. You could get paddled.
- [66:58]
Liberty City Zone
I know when I was in elementary, you get a pattern. I went to the office one time. Ms. Goshen, boy, she gave me. She hit me three times with that paddle.
- [67:05]
ISO Joe Johnson
You got that paddle, Joe.
- [67:06]
Liberty City Zone
One time, Ocho. One time.
- [67:09]
ISO Joe Johnson
That's all it took, huh?
- [67:10]
Liberty City Zone
Three times. She hit me three times with that paddle, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Never again.
- [67:18]
ISO Joe Johnson
Three.
- [67:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, boy. Y' all got off life, man. I remember my homeboy told the teacher her breath thing. She gave that joke about.
- [67:26]
Liberty City Zone
He probably deserved it.
- [67:32]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on now. So he got 35 legs for the teacher. I know he got some when he got home.
- [67:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, they. I was just surprised he, he, he, he lasted long in school. About as long as Skippy in the military, you know, skipping. He skipped the military got you. No, they eat one of them. I mean, once they get to a certain age, I was like, I don't really expect. I mean, if a guy missing 15, 20, 30 days in the second, third, fourth and fifth grade, as soon as he get big enough.
- [68:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, it's a rap. It's rap.
- [68:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, we roll. I. We ride by. They rolling dice. So I like. He ain't. They ain't come. If you rolling dice at 7:30 in the morning, what's your chance? Of you coming to school, Joe? What's the chance?
- [68:15]
Liberty City Zone
It ain't. It ain't none.
- [68:16]
ISO Joe Johnson
I got you.
- [68:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [68:18]
Liberty City Zone
Well, hey, the boy hustle early.
- [68:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There it is. Tennessee beat Iowa State 7662. The balls pulled away in the second half because of their superior size, physicality, toughness, as Iowa State seemed to crack without star forward Joshua Jefferson. Rick Barnes and DeVos are back to their third consecutive Elite Eight. Will have a chance to reach the Final Four for the first time in team wow. History.
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Liberty City Zone
Wow. Hey, I'm happy for Tennessee. Another sec blood, another team. Yep. They got some young guys. They got the freshman admit who. Who will be a lottery pick this year, Uncle Ojo. But the rest of these guys are juniors, seniors. They got a. I think they got another freshman or two coming out the bench. But for the most part, Gary, they, they got. They got the upperclassmen doing the dirty work while the young guys, you know, doing all the scoring, you know what I mean? And this was surprising to me. It was surprising because I was led by two guards. That's a senior, you know, obviously I thought both of them played well, but Tennessee too much, bro. They brewed. They got some bruises under their basket, man.
- [69:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got out. They out rebounding. Iowa State by 21. You get out rebounded by that. You. I'm surprised the score wasn't more lopsided. Think about it. If you get out. Rebounded by 21.
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Liberty City Zone
Yeah.
- [69:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They had 16 offensive rebounds, shot 51% from the field. So, I mean, got some good matchups. So I guess it's Michigan and Tennessee Duke.
- [69:59]
Liberty City Zone
Hey, we here now. We here now.
- [70:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [70:03]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, you should see. Hey, you should see who. When it comes down to them brackets, you know, who went first now, right?
- [70:09]
Liberty City Zone
Who you got, who you got winning
- [70:11]
ISO Joe Johnson
Ocho and you know who went first right now, right?
- [70:13]
Liberty City Zone
Who we got?
- [70:19]
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, y' all making all them jokes, talking about I'm picking mascots.
- [70:22]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, you did, you were.
- [70:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You did.
- [70:25]
ISO Joe Johnson
Listen, listen, listen. Who was in first right now? And let me tell you who gonna win the whole the March Madness bracket?
- [70:30]
Liberty City Zone
Who gonna win it?
- [70:31]
ISO Joe Johnson
What you mean, who gonna win? I was pulling up the rear in the beginning, huh? Come on now.
- [70:37]
Liberty City Zone
Who you picked?
- [70:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, hold on.
- [70:41]
ISO Joe Johnson
Let me keep my feet up.
- [70:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He still got Duke in it. He still got Arizona in it. He got Michigan, but he had Virginia to beat Michigan. His bottom half bracket gone. His busted. The south bracket is busted, but he still got Duke. He still, he got Duke in Arizona in the championship to play for the national championship. He got Arizona to win it.
- [71:01]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, Arizona look good. I ain't gonna lie to you.
- [71:04]
ISO Joe Johnson
I mean, what you want me to say? What you want me to say, Joe?
- [71:06]
Liberty City Zone
But you only picked them because you just looked at a wildcat versus a hog. That's what I know. That's what I'm saying.
- [71:13]
ISO Joe Johnson
Joey ain't got nothing to do with it.
- [71:15]
Liberty City Zone
Yeah, it is, man. You only know nothing. You don't know nothing about these team. You know the mascot and you like, that's what I'm going with. And it's, it's worked out well for you. I ain't hating on you. I'm just saying.
- [71:26]
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I, I, I feel, I feel,
- [71:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
but I, I see. You know what? Next year I got to take this thing, but I gotta put some more time in it. I'm gonna watch the basketball.
- [71:34]
Liberty City Zone
Cause hey, hey, hey. These boys out here getting down, I
- [71:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
would take a look. I. Instead of spending 10 minutes, I will spend 30 minutes. Okay, okay. Say instead of five minutes, but that's okay.
- [71:56]
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John Green
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Daniel Alarcon
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John Green
Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Daniel Jeremiah
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Greg Rosenthal
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Daniel Jeremiah
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Greg Rosenthal
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Daniel Jeremiah
We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search 40s and free agents and listen now.
- [73:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How much you weigh, Wanda? Right now about 130.
- [73:33]
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm like 183.
- [73:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We should race.
- [73:35]
Liberty City Zone
No, I want to leave here with my original hips.
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On the podcast, a matchup with Aaliyah, I pair prominent female athletes with unexpected guests. On a recent episode, I sat down with Undisputed boxing champ Clarissa Shields and comedian Wanda Sykes to talk about Wanda's new movie, the Art of Trash Talk and what it really means to be ladylike. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search the Match up with Aaliyah and listen now.
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Lily Herman
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Miles Turner
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- [74:08]
Brianna Stewart
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- [74:14]
Miles Turner
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Brianna Stewart
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- [74:20]
Miles Turner
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Brianna Stewart
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