Nightcap Hour 1: Iso Joe PULLS UP on Ocho + Prairie View A&M’s Dontae Horne JOINS Nightcap + Miami Ohio BEATS SMU for FINAL SPOT in MARCH MADNESS + Lakers COOK the Rockets + Deandre Ayton has STEPPED UP his GAME

Summary

Nightcap Hour 1: Iso Joe PULLS UP on Ocho + Prairie View A&M’s Dontae Horne JOINS Nightcap

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This episode of Nightcap delivers classic late-night sports banter with Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho), and guest Iso Joe Johnson. The show is a blend of NBA, NCAA, and NFL instant reactions, storytelling, accountability debates, and candid interviews with rising stars—most notably Prairie View A&M’s NCAA tournament hero, Dontae Horn. The crew debates March Madness upsets, NBA storylines (with a focus on the Lakers, Luka Doncic, and Deandre Ayton’s resurgence), and leans into their competitive chemistry and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ocho Flakes on Iso Joe at Magic City Hawks Game

[06:45–17:09, then throughout]

• Joe Johnson recounts Ocho flaking on special floor seats for a big Magic City night at an Atlanta Hawks game. Despite Ocho’s earlier commitment, he canceled last minute citing family obligations and scheduling changes.
• Funny moment: Joe’s barber hoped to go in Ocho’s place (09:52).
• Ocho’s story changes under pressure, with references to a daughter’s tennis tournament and birthday party, leading to a friendly but relentless roasting by Sharpe and Joe.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Two things I got in life, my word and these hands. Ocho, you flaked on me!” — Joe Johnson [11:01]
  • “If his feet ain’t on the wood, the tickets ain’t no good.” — Ocho, quoted by Joe; capturing Ocho’s high standards for game-going [08:04]

Accountability is a major theme:
Joe and Sharpe press Ocho to simply own up to bailing, leading to a playful (sometimes heated) exchange about communication, responsibility, and friendship in professional circles.

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2. Dontae Horn Interview – Prairie View A&M Makes History

[20:47–26:48]

• Prairie View A&M’s Dontae Horn, fresh off the first NCAA Tournament win in school history, joins the show from a plane en route to the next round.

• Discusses attitude and preparation in overcoming Lehigh and what it means for a “small” program.

• Key Insights:

  • Faith, grit, and defensive buy-in fueled their victory.
  • Facing Florida next, Horn says the team isn’t in it for participation, but to “slay the dragons.” [22:20]
  • Horn played 40 minutes, leading with 25 points on 11-of-22 shooting, and three other starters went the distance.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “We’re not going to Florida just to say, ‘Hey, we play Florida.’ We’re going to Florida to slay the dragons.” — Dontae Horn [22:37]
  • “If you could weather the storm early…make them get late into the ball game and you’re still hanging around, now the pressure shifts on them. Never supposed to get you guys out of there… But you have other plans.” — Chad Johnson [23:20]

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3. Miami Ohio Beats SMU for Final March Madness Spot

[45:44–51:20]

• Miami Ohio Redhawks defeat SMU Mustangs 89-79 to grab the final tournament spot.
• Discussion about the oddity of a 30-0 team needing to play in, and the talent parity in college hoops.
• Sharpe and Joe talk about the impact of seniority and experience in successful deep NCAA runs (referencing UConn, and why “five-star” freshmen teams often fall short).
• Notable Quote:
  • “Experience matters in college basketball now. That’s why when it comes to recruiting…they want guys who proven or who have the talent to be able to compete.” — Joe Johnson [51:02]

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4. Modern College Athlete Realities (NIL, Transfer Portal, and the “Bag”)

[51:01–57:42]

• Lively conversation on how NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals have changed college recruiting and retention, with athletes now leveraging contracts for big perks and cash incentives.
• Commentary on the pressure to enter the draft as early as possible versus staying to develop.
• Funny & Real Quotes:
  • “All I know is my grandma wasn’t gonna be hungry…if she had NIL back then, somebody paying premium!” — Chad Johnson [52:45]
  • “You stay more than two years [in college]…they thought something was wrong with you.” — Joe Johnson [53:23]
• Discussion about the tiny percentage who make the pros, and the business mindset now dominating both college basketball and football.

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5. NBA Talk: Lakers “Cooking” Rockets, Luka & LeBron Shine, and Deandre Ayton’s Resurgence

Lakers vs. Rockets: Game Recap & Analysis [59:00–73:53]

• LeBron & Luka Doncic:

  • LeBron scores 30 points, going 13-14, with transition dunks and extreme efficiency—the perfect “third-option” to Luka’s primary scorer status.
  • Doncic nearly has a triple-double (40 pts/9 reb/10 ast), “controlling the game” and causing match-up nightmares.
  • Lakers have now won seven straight.
  • Sharpe: “He controls the game…He can foul-bait you…now he got you at his mercy.” [68:14]

• Game strategy:

  • Lakers’ aggressive trapping of Kevin Durant discussed; KD held to just 11 FGA and 3 FTA, which the crew praises as a game plan executed flawlessly.
    • “As long as I keep him down here in these numbers…he’s not in that 19, 20, 22… I’m good.” — Sharpe [65:48]
  • Continued debate on Houston’s point guard problem after VanVleet’s injury.

• Deandre Ayton’s New Mindset and Role:

  • Ayton embraces a role-focused approach: running the floor, blocking, and rim-running instead of expecting post touches.

  • Ayton Quote (read on-air):

    • “I just started looking in the mirror…You come in here to be an effort guy and to close out possessions, rebound, run the damn floor hard as hell, make bigs work…And I’m having fun with it.” — Deandre Ayton, quoted by Sharpe [73:10]

  • Sharpe and Joe break down why most NBA big men aren’t offensive focal points, emphasizing effort above all.

  • Quotes:

    • “If you look at the last four to five games, that’s what [Ayton’s] giving you. That’s what they need.” — Sharpe [80:38]
    • “All we want is consistent effort…if you make a mistake, make it full speed.” — Sharpe [83:26]

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6. Unfiltered Banter + “The Fade”

[Throughout, 33:01–43:07, 41:07+, 83:29+]

• Extended joking about Ocho and Joe’s “three-minute fade”—who would win in a fight, loud vs. quiet, and who has “real hands.” Tones oscillate between joking, competitive, and mock-serious.
• Quotes:
  • “That’s the one thing I know I could do. I could whoop your ass, Joe.” — Ocho [33:01]
  • “All I need is three minutes … I’ll keep you around three minutes just to give the people in the chat something to watch.” — Joe Johnson [33:52]
  • “I don’t want no return on investment. All I want this man to do is accept accountability!” — Chad Johnson [34:30]

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Notable Quotes

• “You come in here to be an effort guy and to close out possessions, rebound, run the damn floor hard as hell, make bigs work…And I’m having fun with it.” — Deandre Ayton (read by Sharpe) [73:10]
• “We’re going to Florida to slay the dragons.” — Dontae Horn [22:37]
• “You can’t teach that. Either you got it or you don’t.” — Ocho [77:32]
• “Experience matters in college basketball now. That’s why…they want guys who proven.” — Joe Johnson [51:02]
• “You flaked on me! All I got is my word and these hands, Ocho.” — Joe Johnson [11:01]

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Important Segments with Timestamps

• Ocho flakes on Joe, Magic City ticket saga: [06:45–17:09]
• Dontae Horn interview (Prairie View A&M): [20:47–26:48]
• Miami Ohio clinches last March Madness spot: [45:44–51:20]
• NIL/Transfer portal/college stars or ‘bag chasers’: [51:01–57:42]
• Lakers-Rockets, Luka still cooking: [59:00–73:53]
• Deandre Ayton’s new role/mentality: [73:10–81:34]
• Ocho vs. Joe, who catches the “fade”: [33:01–43:07], [41:07+], [83:29+]

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Tone & Vibe

Vibrant, sharp, and loaded with both expert-level sports analysis and high-energy locker room humor. The chemistry between Unc, Ocho, and Joe is playful but competitive—each quick to roast the other, call out inconsistencies, yet unified in their love of the game (and the grind behind it). Guests like Dontae Horn are treated to encouragement and life lessons, while NBA and NCAA takes are delivered with the frankness of real pros.

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Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

What's up, baby?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How was that Magic City, you know, Hawks, you know, how was that thing?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. That thing was jumping off the wall. But ojo bogus as hell for what he.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, look, look, I understand. I understand your baby girl, you know her birthday. But hell, you knew her birthday was a month ago when you started hollering this tell myself, hey man, let's go to Magic City.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get him.

[Joe Johnson]

Mind you, mind you, mind you. We was all on Nightcap the night before the game. I'm like, oh. So I come swoop you up from the airport, bro. You I'm throwing this out there because if you want to flake, I'm giving you some opportunities to flake. Yeah, I mean steady hollering.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What do you say?

[Joe Johnson]

They holler. I almost be there.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't, but I'm gonna be there. I'm get my workout. I'm gonna go eat my breakfast. I'm gonna go do soccer at 9 o' clock and then I'm gonna head to the airport. Ain't but 45 minutes to an hour. So boom.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, all I got is this word. That's all I got.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's all you got, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

All I got is worried. So, boom, the next day come, I set it up, you know, the game at seven. So I set it up for five o'. Clock. Me go, give me a little chop, you know, give me a little.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Ocho say if his feet ain't on the wood, the tickets ain't no good.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I'm making sure you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep, I'm making sure he good. So I'm like, let me get a little cut. Cause they probably gonna have us on the. On the big.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they're gonna close up. Close up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, camera right down.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, they got ti in their performance. You know what I mean? What is it gonna be? All right. Hey, mind you, the house on a nine game winning street. I'm like, boy, look, hey, this is

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

gonna be a good game.

[Joe Johnson]

And, and, and the Orlando Magics was on a winning streak too. They had won like six or seven in a row. They did. Oh, yeah, this is gonna be a good game, boy. Me and Ocho picked a hell of

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

a game to come through.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm getting my hair cut. It's 5:30. My barber say, shout out to my boy Mario. My barber say, hey, man, you think Ocho come? I said, yeah, last night he said he coming, but it's 5:30. I ain't heard from Ocho all day.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So hold on, Joe, Joe, Joe, before you go any further, you mean to tell me the game is at 7? Yeah, it's 5:30, you getting the cut, and you have not heard from Ocho? Because that's not kind of the message that he relayed. Oh, but go ahead, Joe. So. So, boom, my bad.

[Joe Johnson]

My boy would say, man, you think Ocho coming? I said, he's. He told me last night he come. I just talked to him. So I said, yeah, boom. I said, you know what, Let me hit him. I'm gonna tell him I can send him his ticket electronically. That way when he get here, he can just go to the game.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just come on in there.

[Joe Johnson]

He already sitting down, chilling. Cause I like to get there early, you know, I can go in the back, holler at the players, holla at dominique for about 10, 15 minutes. Yeah, yeah, he like to walk around, man. Ocho hit me back. He said something about his producer. Say he got something. I stopped reading the message. I said, oh, this nigga.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, Joe, you stopped. You didn't read the message all the way through.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, he flaked on me. He flaked on me so bad. It's 5:30. Look, now I'm on my way, headed to the arena. My barber, he ain't never even been to an NBA game, so I could have took him with me. Oh, you know what I mean?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

He could have sat on the floor with me. We could have been. You know what I mean?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I said dang.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought about that the whole night.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said dang.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, that's how you.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, before you go any further, before you tell any more of the story. So you got an unused ticket that you had to pay a considerable amount. Now, I call. I got a buddy that worked in the halls, and those tickets where they run.

[Joe Johnson]

So listen. So typically, normally when I go to halls games, you know, sometimes they'll hit me up, they'll be like, oh, we got some floor seats. You know, they'll give them to me. I typically don't have to pay for him, but for tonight, the Magic City night, it's a hot commodity. Everybody trying to come, everybody want to go. So it was hard to get the ticket, so I had to jump through a few hoops.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear me? Yeah, you did.

[Uncle Ocho]

How many. How many hoops you had to jump through, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

You know I had more than one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me. Let me know how many hoops you had to jump through. I could make it. I could. I could make it right now.

[Joe Johnson]

We a. Well, that. That's beside the point. Oo. You know what I mean? All you had to do. Hey, look, look, look. The next day when you got up, you could have hit me and be like, aj, I ain't gonna.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, Joe, before you tell any more the story, you mean to tell me the next day the man ain't hit you still?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I had to hit him at 5:30. Man. I hit him. 5:30 game. I'm like, damn.

[Uncle Ocho]

You talking about the same day?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm. So let me ask you a question. Did he. So he sent you a text? He didn't actually talk to you, right?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I. I text him. I'm like, hold on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You had to call him?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's 5:30. UNC game himself. I ain't heard from him all day.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Let me make sure I'm getting this right, because maybe something got lost in translation. You remember that movie Lost in Translation? So maybe I'm revisiting that. It's nostalgic. I'm having a nostalgic breakdown.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You mean to tell me a man that put in a request for floor seats in a month in advance, you, Joe Johnson, and The Hogs love you like the Broncos, like the Bengals love Ocho. You. Normally, sometimes they call, say, hey, Joe, would you like to come to the game? We. We got some seats available. Boom. But in this situation, it's a hot ticket. Everybody wants to come to Magic City because no matter what the NBA and others think, Magic City is a, is a iconic. It's, It's a, it's a, it's, it's historic when it comes to Atlanta.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you had to do a little bit extra in order to get these, even though you are ISO. And you are a, a, a, a Atlanta Hawk legend. Yeah. So you mean to tell me the game's at 7 5:30? You haven't heard? You call him? Yeah, he did.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did you. So he. So he pick up the phone? Okay. Hey, Ojo, what's going on? We going to the game. I got the tickets, so this. Oh, so I'm o. Joe. You Joe. Hey, what's up, Ojo? What's going on? Hey, hey, you want me to be me? Yeah, I want you to be you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I got these tickets, bro. The game started seven. It's 5:30. I can see, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My producer, man, my producer told me that I got something, that I got something. I got to go out of town for tomorrow, Joe, so. Yeah, Joe. I ain't gonna be able to make it, Joe. I'm sorry, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah,

[Uncle Ocho]

I like that story.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, hold up. Before you go, did he mention anything about a birthday party?

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I ain't say nothing about no birthday.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy. Chad, Did you hear that? Hold on, hold on. Wait a minute. Yo, I want you to go to the farmer because I gotta set this up for the chat because they was all on me because he said it was his daughter's birthday right now. His daughter plays tennis? Yeah, his daughter's been playing tennis for a number of years. She's in a tournament that. Last I checked, Joe, they just don't spring tournaments up say, hey, we got a tournament, a tennis tournament happening this weekend. Anybody wants to play tennis, they're welcome to come, right? Also, his daughter's 1112 years old. She's been having the same birthday for 1112 years.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So a tennis tournament, which you knew you were going to have a birthday. The tennis tournament weekend. Normally, the people have it the week before. Normally people. Sometimes there's anomalies. People normally have birthday parties on the weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, because you can get more people to come. People don't normally have birthday parties on a weekday. Normally. I say normally.

[Uncle Ocho]

So it's spring break, but go ahead, keep.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can't hear you. I can't hear you. We can't see you. We can hear you.

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But Chad, he told us that he told you it was his daughter's birthday and he was going to be unable to attend because the party got a. Moved up because there was a tennis tournament that this weekend. All right, so I'm looking.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm looking at the text message. I'm looking at the text message right now, and. Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, come on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We gotta fix the camera. We gotta fix the camera because if you want to see you, people want to see you. People want to see you. So hold on. Joe. So you call him at 5:30.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The game. So unless. Unless he's at the airport driving. Cause it gonna take.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's gonna take him at least an hour.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just to get to the arena for. From the airport and get through that traffic and get there. So by the time he sit down, they probably throwing the ball up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Probably throwing the ball up. Hello? Look, but go ahead. Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm. I'm sitting. I'm sitting in the chair. He about to get. He about to get ready to take the cape up off me as I'm sitting there. Got me a fresh little cut.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear? Oh, I do that face.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, man, let me make sure this joker, you know, Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y. Y' all done.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said, damn. We would like for you to turn the camera back on. That's what we like to do. That's what we would like.

[Uncle Ocho]

I didn't even know my camera went off.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you know your camera went off. You absolutely knew your camera went off because we missed you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm sitting here talking. I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here listening to y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Look, at the end of the day, bro, just have accountability, man. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me know when y' all done. You heard me?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, let me know when y' all done.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, have I got to do with it? My day. My name's Shay and I ain't got. I ain't came to play.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on, hold on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So if the floor is yours.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on.

[Orderly Meds Representative]

Let me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me. Let me get to this real quick. Hold on. Let me get. Let me get y' all together real quick.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't. Don't be calling your baby mama.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't gonna do that.

[Joe Johnson]

I Ain't gonna do that.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, don't call the co parent. We don't. There are certain terms, Joe, that we try to stay away from because they're not politically correct and we don't want people talking about Ocho and Joe, they using terminal nightcap talking about baby mamas so you don't have to call your co parent.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There it is.

[Uncle Ocho]

There it is. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, let me get. Let me get you all together real quick. But we're gonna have a good one tonight, bro. Yeah, we're gonna have a good one.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It started off great.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I like it. I'm gonna let y' all have your little fun.

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

No.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

hold on. Oh, Joe, before you go, we got a. We got a very special guest joining us. He led the Prayer View A M Panthers. You know a little something about Prayer View. They beat. He's on the plane right now. They beat Lehigh to advance to take on number one seed Florida Panthers earned their first NCAA tournament victory in program here. Dante Horn joined the program tonight. Dante, how you doing, bro?

[Dante Horn]

I'm doing good. How you doing?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm doing amazing, man. Thanks for joining us. And you got ISO joining us tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Dante, what's up?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. Outside of you guys in that building, the coach and people at Prayer View believe this will be possible. How were you able, how were you able to pull this off today, man?

[Dante Horn]

Just believing in God and trusting in our system on defense. Like I said, I have wonderful teammates that don't mind getting dirty on the defensive side and that just translates to our offense.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what's up. Hey, what's up, bro? I know who you are. What's up, bro? Hey, look, y' all about to get ready to play Florida. Well, I need y' all to go and get them up out of there. Hey, I need y' all to get them boys. Hey, it's gonna be tough.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what you think?

[Joe Johnson]

What you think is gonna be the, the biggest thing you guys gonna have to work on to continue to advance, you know, in this tournament against Florida?

[Dante Horn]

Is that the biggest thing?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, what you think the most important thing y' all gonna have to work on as a team to continue to advance?

[Dante Horn]

I feel like Florida being a big team, we got to do way better defense than we have been playing. We've been having some mislaps. We probably got to play like a perfect game. But I think everybody on my team is ready to go. We're not scared. So we're not going to Florida just to say, hey, we play Florida, we're going to Florida to slay the dragons, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right. That's what's up, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, do you had a great game tonight, man, you 11 for 22. You know, you had 25 points. But understanding knowing that you're playing again, a team like Florida, you're gonna have to come in and lead that pack. You guys, you're gonna have to have a out of body experience, man, and pretending you like you goddamn Superman along with your other teammates, being able to get them involved as well. How confident are you that you, you guys can pull this off and shock the goddamn world?

[Dante Horn]

You know, we real confident our non conference kind of prepared us for this moment. We played a lot of big teams doing our non conference. I mean the end of score didn't look well, but doing that during them games was right there with them. So we know we were going up against.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what's up, bro.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dante, you know, the biggest thing is is weathering the storm early. You know they're going to try to. You mentioned the size disparities that they have in their favor. So you know they're going to try to pressure you, try to speed yourself, turn you over and try to get out to the big lead and then you know, hey, say, say, well, we're going to save our legs. If you could weather the storm early, make them get late into the ball game and you're still hanging around. Now the pressure shifts on them. Never supposed to get you guys out of there. They're probably a 40, 50 point favorite. But you have other plans.

[Dante Horn]

Yes, sir. That's true. That's definitely true.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So, so what, what, what kind of expect. Welcome do you expect to get back when you go back to Prayer View? Because I'm not so sure, you know, you guys believe because sometimes everybody say, yeah, we gonna win, we gonna win. But they like, they don't really believe. But you guys had to believe or this moment isn't even possible.

[Dante Horn]

Man, we had to. You know, I feel like when we get. Hey, so many.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This is gonna. Yeah, I think it's camera. I think he. Oh, you guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got you.

[Dante Horn]

Yeah, I was saying I feel like it's gonna be crazy because a lot of people didn't think we would make it here, but we did. So PV gonna be jumping when we get back.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, hey. The party gonna be short lived because what you guys play Friday?

[Dante Horn]

Yes, sir.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So by the time you get back, basically it's time for you guys to pack and change and get ready to hit the road again,

[Uncle Ocho]

huh?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. But the prayer views in Texas.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, y' all hold on.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all going straight to Tampa from right now. Oh, so y' all not going back to freebie?

[Dante Horn]

We're going right now.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, okay. We're straight. Hey, you good? You good then?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's the best thing. Keep them boys locked in. Hey, listen, hey, Dante, you know, you know, now Florida got them big boys in the paint, man. You need to tell you, you need to tell your big man they need, they need to be carrying their lunch pill. Bo, they got some work. I know, we know it.

[Dante Horn]

We know. We got. Hey, it's.

[Joe Johnson]

It's about who wanted more. It's about who wanted more. At the end of the day, Dante,

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you know, if you get a chance, you got. They got that. Dude, that's sick. Like six. That's 79. You got the flush on.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody get that chance. Hey, look, I'm trying to make it worthy.

[Dante Horn]

I need all them pictures.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't post them so bad.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Unbelievable. Back. Congratulations on a big win tonight. Everybody at PV is Excel is excited. They're celebrating for you. We at Nightcap and our listeners and subscribers, we're excited for you. We couldn't be more proud of the job that you guys did tonight. Dante Horn led Prayer View to the very first NCAA tournament victory. They. They earn a right to go take on the Gators at Florida. Dante led the way 25 points on 11 of 22 shooting. He played the entire game. So did three of his other starting teammates. Played the entire ball game. Dante, congratulations. Tell the team congratulations and nightcap. We probably. Hey, I just want to say thank you.

[Joe Johnson]

I just want to say thank you.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And me and my pops are super

[Dante Horn]

Bronco fans, so it's an honor to be on this.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you, man. Appreciate it, Dante.

[Joe Johnson]

Take care.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what's up, fellas? That was up. That's what's up.

[Dante Horn]

Thank y'.

[Uncle Ocho]

All.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Congratulations to the prayer view.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Hey, that's what's up, bro.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Pb. PB got it.

[Joe Johnson]

They beat Lehi.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I don't know. Y' all gotta change your name to Leela. Y' all wasn't high tonight. Hey, Joe. But okay. So, Joe, you get your haircut?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Take the cape off.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You headed to the. You headed to the game? You like?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, this game be an O. Gonna be fit the thing. I'm looking fly, looking down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all finish? Y' all finish, man, let Joe tell his story. O joke three times already. You keep going back. You keep going in circles.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We listen to you tell your story. The other night, you told your story four times.

[Uncle Ocho]

I told it one time. Uhuh.

[Joe Johnson]

You kept telling me, hey, hey, hey.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everybody else told me, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

But oo, did you take accountability, though, bro? Like, okay, that's it.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, look, hey, look, look.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause if you ain't taking.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause if you ain't taking accountability, I'll say, I can't hang with you, bro. For real. I can't. I can't. I can't be rolling.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's fine. That's fine. I hang by myself anyway. I'm good.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, Joe, your boy coming down there. We good, we going.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, man, Let me know, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me know.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me know.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You already. You already know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe. Hey, I didn't try to talk to Joe already. I told. Hey, Joe, you. You get on me.

[Joe Johnson]

You get.

[Uncle Ocho]

You get on me, you know, Listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen to me real quick. Listen. My baby. When you hit me, why would my baby all day. Now, listen, check me out, right? I told Unc. I say, man, listen. What would BM say, boy? Listen, I need you to readjust what you got going on. The baby has a tournament coming up. Not only does the baby have a tournament coming up, the weekend, it's the Miami Open. So I'm going to be taking my baby to the Miami Open. So you readjust what you got to do? Because I need you this day.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So what's the Miami Open?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Was she playing in tournament in the morning? And then they go from the tournament they play in to the Miami Open to meet the players.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So, so let me ask you a question. When, when did you realize that she had a turn a tennis tournament?

[Uncle Ocho]

Are you not listening? On the weekend. But she moved. What she wanted to do with the baby with me on Monday. She. She moved, right? And I didn't know, she didn't tell me ahead of time. And the fact that it made it inconvenience. Well, actually, because it's a baby, it's not inconvenience. So whatever I have to do, right, I can't do it. I can't do it.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you. So you didn't realize, you didn't realize that you had made play. So you didn't call, you couldn't call Joe that morning. So when did you find out that she needed you to make the rearrange?

[Uncle Ocho]

Early, early in the morning about 8 o'. Clock. 8 o' clock call, bro. 8 o' clock call. Listen, we come, we coming down. I need you. Boom. We went to the nail place.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boom.

[Uncle Ocho]

We going to ride. I had to go ride horses by that time. We locked in, having a good time. We Dave busters like, God damn, I ain't gonna. It's kind of messed up. And then when Joe hit me, right?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boom.

[Uncle Ocho]

Doug and Ryan hit me too. Hey, listen, we need you to get on the flight Tuesday morning at six o', clock, right? Hey, Joe, you know I do got my soccer podcast, right? We got an opportunity to meet with the MLS commissioner so you can sit down and talk to him about X, Y and Z, how you got a job, whatever. So that's why I'm in New York now. Boom. So that I had to do that Tuesday morning. My flight was at 8:00 in the morning. I ain't leave here until 2, right? Because all the flight. I don't know what's going on with flights and airports right now, but I had like a seven hour delay. Boom. So it was, it was a rough, it was a rough two days for me. Now y' all jumping on me, getting on me, snapping on me, and then I got,

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

hey, hey, Joe. But I'm looking at the Miami Open schedule. They've played the Miami, they've been playing the Miami Open for the extended period of time and it's been on the schedule for at least two years. Is that if, if, if this is what their Website is saying. Now, if that's a lie, the website

[Uncle Ocho]

doesn't have to do anything. We do the same routine every Miami Open.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Exactly. So you knew the Miami Open that you was gonna have to. You knew your daughter was going to be going to the Miami Open before you made the trip. The plans don't have to do with

[Uncle Ocho]

what I'm talking about.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You made it seem like the Miami Open, just. Just like your daughter got this tournament.

[Uncle Ocho]

We normally have the party on the weekends, right? Are you listening to me or not? But there's a tournament this time, this weekend.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the tournament, the Miami Open, is always around your daughter's birthday on the

[Uncle Ocho]

weekends this time because she had the tournament to play. Are you listening? She has a tournament to play this time on the weekend. He moved it up on a Tuesday because the kids are on spring break, so it was different this year.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So when did you realize that your daughter's birthday wasn't going to be on the weekend, it was going to be on a weekday?

[Uncle Ocho]

She told me we're moving everything on Monday morning when I woke up. What was the problem? Is. Is there a problem with that?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay,

[Uncle Ocho]

not because me and Jordy talked about it. You keep instigating it.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We just tried to get clarification.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, I didn't talk to Joe already. Now what's gonna happen is.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Will you talk? Will you talk to Joe?

[Uncle Ocho]

What you mean? I talked to Joe today, too, and yesterday, twice. You know, I say, joe, listen, listen, if you need anything, let me know what I owe you back. Both you. I'm gonna get it to you, you hear me? Whatever, whatever. Whatever that would cost. I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

And the money ain't the problem, though. That money ain't even the issue. You know?

[Uncle Ocho]

What's the issue?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The issue is when you got your.

[Joe Johnson]

When you got your ass up and you knew you weren't coming to Atlanta, you should have been like, hey, Brian,

[Uncle Ocho]

you want to fight Joe?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Let me know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, we can go. Hey, give me three minutes with him. You can rep it all I wanted three minutes. I'mma have them gloves. I'mma have them gloves.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you see me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Matter of fact. Matter of fact from. Hey, it's on site, Joe.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Say less.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be ready. I'm gonna be ready.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's the one thing I know I could do. I could whoop your ass, Joe.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, I like this. Hey, matter of fact, uncle.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You laughing.

[Uncle Ocho]

You gonna get your ass whooped, too.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man. Oh, I don't want no problem, man. I'm just minding my business.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's cool. Hey, it's cool.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna give you three minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't gonna even take that long

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

for what I gotta do with.

[Uncle Ocho]

It ain't gonna be no three minutes, Joe. I'm. It's gon minute, boy. You hear me? It gonna be. I'm gonna jump on your ass like a chicken on the June bug. Joe,

[Joe Johnson]

the problem is you're gonna have to take one or two of these just to even get up here.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And one of them, that ain't gonna be enough.

[Joe Johnson]

You talking about Carissa, Jake, Paul Logan. Paul. Damn them you got. ISO.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's me and you. Hey, three minutes.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, it's gonna be longer than three, boy. You hear me? But hey, I'm gonna take.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, all I need on three minutes. I'm gonna keep them around three minutes just to give. Just to get the people in the chat.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just to give them something to watch. Jake, Paul, Logan, Paul. Cliff Paul, Chris, Paul. ISO and 5.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hello?

[Uncle Ocho]

I saw going to sleep right. You hear me?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Miami Ohio Red Hawks. What you mean you not finish? I thought you said we were. We ain't done.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because y' all kept going. It's my turn. Hey, I love y', all, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, all Joe say he wanted. Joe say the money. I don't want no. I don't want the roi. I don't want no return on investment. All I want this man to do is accept accountability. Did you realize that early that morning that your girl, that your co parent had called you and said that there's been a change of schedule? You should have cut the next call. You should have made. Hey, Joe, check this out. My baby. My co parent called me. My baby's birthday. Normally we celebrate it on the weekend.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't had to do all that. He had to say all that. All he had to do is say he was.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He can't make it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, just leave it alone. Just leave alone, bro. You already finna catch your ass with me behind, and I ain't. What I was trying to do. I was just trying.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe, can you hear me? Can you hear me, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead.

[Uncle Ocho]

Anything. Anything you ever need from me, Joe. I got you, Joe. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

I still want my three minutes, though. Yeah. I want my fade.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My.

[Joe Johnson]

I want my fade.

[Uncle Ocho]

Whatever you want to do, homie.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Whatever you want to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Run my baby, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. I still love you like cousin.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen. Hey, Joe, when you lumped up, I don't want to hear no Excuses. Talking about, oh, I would tie. Oh, my knee hurt. I don't want to hear none of that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm coming from right here. I ain't got to go all the way back here. I'm coming from right here. Yeah, okay. All that. All that. Yeah. I just want you to know.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I just want you to know.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You think it's play.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe. That's what I'm saying. He think. Cause you don't really do no whole lot of talking, you don't talk loud, that he just gonna run through.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Hey. I said, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, quiet. I said, you gotta watch them quiet ones now.

[Uncle Ocho]

Quiet loud.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why? You know why we quiet? Cause, see, once we get going, we can't turn our damn self down.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why. That's why I let Joe. When Joe say, hey, oh, let me run this. Go ahead. Go ahead, take the floor, Joe. I don't say nothing.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'll let it happen, Joe. I tell you this. Whether you loud, whether you quiet, when it comes to your goddamn hands, I'm gonna put them on you. I don't care who it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay? I want to see. I want to see.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

You're gonna be great, Charles. You ain't gonna be. See these hands.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Three.

[Joe Johnson]

Three minutes.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just keeping you around so the

[Joe Johnson]

people can have a little fun while. Hey, hey, you remember when Florida fighting that little YouTube with the ring.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, did y' all see the thing? Did you see the fight today? The guy, I. I guess he's with his girl, and the brother has slapped him in front of his girl. He sent his girl home. He came back, he said, catch this. He. He lumped over up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Called his girl FaceTime. Said, look at him, baby. He leaking.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. When I seen that, I sent it

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

to you, old child. I sent it to you.

[Joe Johnson]

I said, I straight up thought about Ocho as soon as I seen. I said, man, dude came back standing on business. Hey, Ocho, dude was a little bigger than he came back. He said, no, I want the fade, homie.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they got the chance. Oh, Joe. He said, oh, I like. He said, I like you even more now. I'm talking about little dude. Hey. He said, I ain't got no gun. I ain't got no knife. He said, bro, I ain't on no Jackie Chan. I ain't on. I ain't got none of that. He said, I'm gonna throw these hands on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, that's what's gonna happen to you right there, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I sure thought about you when I seen. I said, oh, I'm here. I'm gonna hit Ocho just like this here.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got a joke, Ocho? Do you know how. How. How far you got to go to get Joe out of character? Do you know how long it took us to get Joe to open up?

[Uncle Ocho]

When Joe around me, he gonna open up anyway. This me, you know, it don't matter how shy you are. You know how.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How much you don't talk.

[Uncle Ocho]

I' ma get it out of you just like I'm gonna get this ass you got.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The man want to put hands on you. Oh, Joe. That man want to put hands on you.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joe playing. What?

[Joe Johnson]

How you gonna get up in. How you gonna get up in here? I got a big cage, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

My hand is raised to la.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't give a damn what they rested at. How you gonna get up in here?

[Uncle Ocho]

You want me to take your high?

[Joe Johnson]

How you gonna get up?

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna press you, Joe, with a high guard. Joe, you're not gonna.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dude.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's what I'm saying. You're gonna have to eat one or two of the. Eat one.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna put you.

[Uncle Ocho]

How me eat. How I'm gonna eat them if I'm blocking everything?

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you ain't gonna be blocking nothing here, all right?

[Uncle Ocho]

Matter of fact, I'm gonna be out there on the palace at your front door.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, you know what?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, this is why we the best. This is why we're the best. Hey, Joe, you know, this is because we hold.

[Joe Johnson]

We hold each other. Not only that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, let me. Hey, hold on. Not only that, but can't nothing else out there touch this. Not even close. You know, you're not. You're not understanding.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We ain't got to.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, we ain't got to talk about nobody. We ain't got to create no controversy.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We gonna be on. Hey, Joe, we gonna be on camera. We go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, did you boy. ISO at the game, man. Wish you, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What game y' all going to?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, we ain't telling you.

[Joe Johnson]

We ain't telling you. We ain't telling you.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna probably be at the cigar ball anyway. It's cool. It's cool.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You see?

[Uncle Ocho]

It's cool. Hey, y' all gonna leave me for real?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, man. I had the mayor at the Game City. I know the mayor, Andre Dickens. We chopping it up and everything. Talking about the house and everything trying to do around Atlanta. How they fixed Atlanta up. I'm trying to introduce you to people, man,

[Uncle Ocho]

out here like you trying to get me indoors. I ain't really been in before. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

That's all I'm saying, man. Just. Hey, hey, it's 2026, Ocho. All that flies. I mean, doing a accountability in 2026.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you know, hey, Joe, make

[Uncle Ocho]

sure you account for these hands then, Joe, make sure you account for these hands you about to get.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm three minutes, bro. And that's just to keep you around so. So Chad can, you know, they can have a little fun.

[Uncle Ocho]

I want you to think it's a joke until you touch this goddamn jab. Huh? When I hit you, your nose and it start bleeding. I don't want to hear nothing, bruh.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bruh. He said, hey, you gotta get inside. Ojo. Jose got the.

[Joe Johnson]

He gotta. He gotta take one or two of these just to get.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And one of them gonna sleep.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't even sleep at night.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen that chin, that little glass chin you got. Well, I already know what's going on, yo.

[Uncle Ocho]

Come on, Joe.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

Bring it, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

As a matter of fact, hit Netflix, man. Get us on the pack Yard Mayweather undercard. We'll open it up. We'll be the first fight. I don't give a damn. Ain't nobody in there. I'll whoop his ass.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, get us up.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe say he want to be on the undercard.

[Joe Johnson]

Put us on the undercard, man. We. I'm. I'm tad bit.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't be talking about weight. You know how bad it got to be. Joe say he don't even want to do the one on one tournament. No 303. No more.

[Uncle Ocho]

Want to get his ass whooped in front of the world. That's on him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, let's do it. Might as well do it on Netflix. Let everybody see it.

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[Uncle Ocho]

No.

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[Uncle Ocho]

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Miami the Miami Ohio Red hawks beat the SMU Mustangs by the score of 89 to 79. Remember they started the tournament, they had they're the only team that hadn't lost a regular season game and then they get into the tournament and they lose right away and they were on the cusp. I mean many didn't think they were going to get in but they get in at in the play in tournament and they beat SMU by the score of 89 to 79. They put four players in double figures and they basically led from start to finish and they win this ball game 89.79. Ocho are you surprised that even at what they were 30? I think they were 30, 30, 30 and oh going into the tournament and they were all basically had to get into the play in in order to get to the the final 64. Are you surprised with a record that they had in the regular season they still needed to be able to play in just.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean obviously I'm not sure how how that really works especially with a team that played as well as them and had to be in the goddamn playing. But obviously they made their statement and they made their presence felt tonight on that goddamn Elmer boy. He was phenomenal. Obviously played 12 minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

23 points man. Man, from three point he was. Wait we was eight for 11.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Six or nine.

[Uncle Ocho]

No, he was six or nine from three man. Hell. Goddamn, how many how you say that? Skyjack is it skyjack. Skyjack has 17 buyers had 19 boys was balling and the fact that they had to play in the play in and I I really don't understand why they had to play from the plan. Based on what I saw tonight and watching them play they played really really good basketball from start to goddamn finish. Obviously SMU closed the gap a little bit. I think it might have been the third quarter but missing after after that third quarter in the second half. Man, they young bull started hitting them threes back to back. Joe man it wasn't undoing boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, listen Ojo the Miami of Ohio playing in it. What's that? Mid American Conference.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes and SMU playing in the acc they've been tried and tested playing against some of the top teams in the nation and I don't think Miami of Ohio has been tested. Now. I think the best thing for them was them losing coming into this game. Okay, Ocho. Because they, I'm sure they probably wanted an undefeated season, but they came in and they came into this game already coming off a loss. You know, I knew they would try and bounce back some way somehow to prove that they're still one of the top teams in the NCAA tournament. So kudos to Miami of Ohio, bro. They came out and played well. And hey, hey, them white boys, they got ain't no punks over there.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, they, they, they buckled down, they made shots. They played hard. They competed, bro. They competed. It was a fun game to watch.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Joe, you know Jo's son played with smu?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I seen him out there. I seen him out there. Yeah, he didn't get but a few minutes. But you look, hey, you look at Booby Miller, the guy from smu, that's their best player. He, he had such an off night.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He the injured for that team, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, you know, if he's playing well, going, got it going, then they front running, they playing well. But he struggled, he struggled, he struggled tonight.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But that's the thing, Joe, you know, like in the NCA tournament, it's hard to overcome if your best player because most teams are so dependent on their best player. Yeah. It's not like, you know, like, like in the NBA, all those guys are really, really good. But normally you got one or two guys that's head and shoulders above everybody else on the team and if one of those guys have an off night, very, very real. It's, it's, it could happen, but it happens rarely in college that your best player is off and you're over, over, you're able to overcome that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And, and that's why, you know, that's what, that's what happens. And if you are a junior senior laden team, that's why UConn has been able to win those back to back titles. Because if you look at those guys, those are older guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's hard to put you asking 17, 18 year olds who's been the number one guy on their team for as long as they can remember. Now he's playing with three, four, five other five star guys. We got to share the ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's hard to blend that. That's why you see, you see it so infrequently that if as Talented as Duke has been, they don't win when they got seven, eight, five star guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Right? Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kentucky when they had had boogie cousins and John Wall and all those guys, they didn't win year after year after year after year because it's hard to get 17 year olds to play together when they've been, man, I'll give me 20 shots a night. And now all of a sudden you got to take that down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, maybe 18.

[Uncle Ocho]

The funniest part about it too is, is when you go from playing with you the man and then you go to obviously the next level, obviously college, where everyone is somewhat just as good, your shot selection actually decreased. But you actually have to pick the right shots and then you have to be goddamn efficient. So you can't have off nights like you know, brother Miller had the night. As great as he is, everything runs through him. Or if you have to have, if you have, when you come to tournaments like this, this is when you really don't want to have off nights. You want to be as efficient as possible. If you're not efficient, then you need the other foe. I need you to make up for what I can't do tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

They wanted to do that. Yeah. Experience matters in college basketball now. This is why when it comes to recruiting Uncle Ocho, they no longer really recruiting guys straight outta high school. Unless you're a phenom, you're a five

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

star, you're a Cooper flag, you wanna go a Cameron boozer.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Because college basketball is a business now. It's a professional sport. And they want guys who proven or who has the talent to be able to compete. That's why in a portal, that's why in college basketball now in the portal you have to re recruit your own guys just to see if they gonna come back. Like it's. Yes, it's crazy now, bro, but everybody wants experience. You have to be. That's why you can go to junior college for two years and still have four years of eligibility at a Power 5.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, but they're doing that in, in football, Ocho, you know, now unless you that dog, they going to get somebody out the portal. Yeah, they want to get somebody else quarterback.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They want to get somebody else running back on wide receivers.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So that, and Joe is absolutely right. I've got you on contract and it's like, well, I gotta, hey, I gotta entice you to stay, so I gotta give you an extra hundred, a quarter of a million, I gotta buy you a Lambo, a Ferrari just to get you to stay. And you already own my campus. Because what's reporting is true. You see what they did for Malachi, Tony?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He gets sweet ticket to all the Dolphins home game. He get used to the booster's yacht. He get X, Y and Z. And he get an extra $500,000 for every year that he stayed there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, when you come from them big cities like that and they got the money to pay it, why not, man? Put it in your contract. Put it in your contract.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, I. Hey, all I know is my grandma wasn't gonna be hungry. We weren't gonna be eating no Spam no more. We weren't gonna be buying the sausages. I guarantee you that. If she had nil back then, somebody paying premium.

[Uncle Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Look, Uncle Ocho, I. My mom would have been living in Fayetteville, Arkansas with me if I was getting in, if I was playing in this area, in this era. Man, listen. Hey, hey, I don't see. When I went to college, Uncle Ocho, I came with a plan. I said I can't stay no longer than two years. Cause in basketball, you stay more than two years. They thought something.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They like, what's wrong with you?

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Unless you were Shane Battier, who was in my draft, and you had been at Duke for four years, probably won your two championships, you know. But outside of that, anything over two years, bro, they thought was wrong with you. So I knew.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause remember how they was looking at Blake Griffin? They looked at Tyler Hans, bro. They like, bro, if you that, why you not one and done, man?

[Joe Johnson]

What you talking about?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Tyler Ham. That's what they look at. Tyler, bro, you at North Carolina, you ACC Player of the Year, you National player of the Year, and you a senior. They look at you crazy. Yeah. Because if you that dude, you got to be. You got to be one and done. You got to be a kd. You got to be those guys.

[Uncle Ocho]

So you think it's a bad thing? Uncle Joe understands. Maybe I'm not developed enough to be able to go to the next level. Now you. You leave too early and you get your ass exposed that at the next level, then what?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, get me exposed because I want to be as close to that. That. That 200 million dollar contract that's coming in three years. I'm about to be. Think about it, Ocho. If I leave, let's just say for the sake of argument, I leave at 19, by the time I'm 22, 23, they gonna put 200 million in front of me. The.

[Joe Johnson]

The only.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All I do by staying in college is delayed at night. That's 24. Not as 25. I'm trying to get to the bag as soon as possible. That's why these kids. But that nil money. That ni. Bro. Nil money. They ain't giving you no 40 million. Mendoza's contract is about to be guaranteed. Fully guaranteed, 45 million.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I. I think the only problem with that, though, is, you know, you.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

You get cats. They may not stay. They. They may not stay as long as. Or you saying. I'm saying they want to. You saying they want to get. They trying to get to the pros

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

fast, try to get to the bag.

[Uncle Ocho]

What if they not good?

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I was gonna say. It's only one.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's only not gonna select them if you select me. If you select me, the number one pick, you select me in the lottery, you think I'm good enough that you select me and I don't turn out to be right.

[Joe Johnson]

Clearly.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You thought.

[Uncle Ocho]

I thought she just meant players in general.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

My thing is my thing. UNC is talking about the 1%. It's only. You know.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Talk about all these guys going pro, but guys, there's only 400 dudes in the NBA every year. I ain't talking about this year and just next year, like, every year. So that means if it's 50 coming in, it's got to be 50 going out.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I mean? So we talking about debonza. We're talking about Cameron Boozer. We're talking about Acuff. We're talking about Peterson. We're talking about guys like.

[Joe Johnson]

There we go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You talking about April. You talk about these guys at Ohio State that tested well, and you see all these guys running 4. 4. Jumping out of the building.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go back to college for what?

[Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because. Let me ask you. Because here's the thing. This is what I tell people all the time, what you go to college to do. Well, I'm going to college to get a degree. And you hope that gre. Do what? Help you make what money? Somebody is going to move that up. So instead of you being 23 in making money, hey, how about we do this at 19? How about we do this at 20?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Anybody but Turn it. I want to know the medical student, and you can't do that. But I guarantee you, if Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan, if somebody. I offered a financial student, $2 million a year. They leaving.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I work. Guess what? I work night class. I work night and go online and I'll get my degree, but I'm finna get this bag.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lifetime. I ain't promised tomorrow. And somebody about to give me a check today. I'm taking the check today, and I worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's. That's what I would do. Hey, I'm. I'm never going to tell somebody to stay in school because you go to school to get an edge, to get a. Get a degree so you can go apply to make money.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, okay. Ojo. They told me I was. They say, hey, hey, son, you're gonna be a lottery pick. You're gonna be a top 10 pick. When they told me that, they say less

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

lottery ticket. They didn't play the lottery. He got a lottery ticket. Hey, his mom and dad's hitting on the lottery ticket. So whatever you do, don't get hurt. Don't do nothing crazy. You don't need to get no motorcycle. You don't need to get no dune buggy. You don't need to do no ski, no jet Ski, son. Just get to the NBA, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I went. I won 10 pick. Yeah, I won 10. They told me I wouldn't go past 10, and Boston had the 10 pick. That was my best workout. I probably. I probably missed two shots the whole workout. I ain't gonna lie to you. The whole workout, Ocho, you know, like, when you go into the workout, boy, used to be so locked in. This a dream come true. I'm finna be living the American dream. This is something I dreamed about as a kid. Like, a lot of times. A lot of times, Ocho, My rookie year, bro, I would just go to the gym at night. I'd just sit there and be, oh, after a workout, like, I can't believe I'm playing in the league, bro. Like, you know, like, that was a big accomplishment, man. Like, game been good to you?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey,

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

little something that you spent the other night. But it's been good to you, Joe. It's been good to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You. Hey, hey, you know, my bad, my bad, Joe.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what that. Joe, you know, we talk about this offline. We don't need to mention this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I mean. Hey, hey, listen, I'm saying. But he. Steady talking, bro. I told you, I'm give you three minutes, man. You ain't got to say too much more about it, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't really do A lot of,

[Uncle Ocho]

I do a lot of talking, Joe. That's part of my game. Joe. I'm letting you know. But I'm gonna be on your ass like white on rice now. Joe. All right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

Because I showed my remorse, I took my accountability. And you kept talking, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, well, let it go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let it go then.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's on a boy. Your Lakers won tonight, right?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they do. We fit to talk about them. The Lakers beat the Miami. Miami Heat, the Houston Rocket for the second time in three days by the score of 124 to 116. Luka Doncic came a rebound short of a triple double. He ended with 40 points, nine rebounds, 10 assists. But the night goat James in 34 minutes he had 30 points. Joe. Yeah, 13 or 14 shooting two or two from the three point line. He had 35 and two. He was sensational. He's dunking a a. I think he leaves the NBA in transition points. He's one of the few guys that's, that's averaging 20, shooting 50 from the floor with five rebounds and five assists, if I'm not mistaken. I think he and Nicola Jokic are the only two players that's averaging 255 while shooting better than 50. Going 13 or 14 from the line definitely is going to help that 50, man. But when Lucas playing like this, and don't look now, but I think they've won like seven straight games.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And, and, and they've now beat the niche Knicks because they ain't beat nobody. Are the Knicks any good? Are the Timberwolves any good?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are the Nuggets any good?

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are the Rockets any good? But you know what? They're going to find a way to try to diminish it because old goat James played well. So they go try to try to back. But Joe, what did you like about what you saw from the Lakers tonight?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I thought Luca, you know, obviously doing Luca things, getting off to a great start, making it tough for everybody defensively. I thought what helps with LeBron UNK is that he get a couple easy ones. You know, he made his few. His first few shots. It's a rap. Once he get to feeling good, he get the backpedaling on you. You know, he get that little back pedal he got going. Oh, it's a wrap then. Cause now he got it going. He made, I think he went like 9 for 9 or 10.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

9 for 9. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. He was in the groove. He was in. It's gonna be hard to beat him like that. But they Game plan defensively, uncle against

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

KD don't understand how to get out of that trap without turning the ball over.

[Joe Johnson]

For whatever reason, KD is having a problem with them trapping. See, they ain't just trapping them for them to give it up. They being aggressive with their traps. You know, they can steal steals off their traps, which are leading to easy baskets for the Lakers. Cause I thought I was tripping tonight. When I was looking at the game, I said, hold on, this is the same game from the other night. Because I ain't know they played them back to back. Yeah, but yeah, the Lakers got Houston number right now. They got a nice little game plan for them,

[Uncle Ocho]

Uncle Joe. Right. I mean, I'm watching the game. Obviously y' all have a better understanding of the game than I do. And I'm seeing that KD had but damn, two points at the half. How could he have two points at the half? I don't understand. Especially a prolific score, maybe one of the greatest scores of all time. NBA history. How does he have two points at the half? Obviously, he started to get going after the half in the third quarter, and he started his shot, started falling, but trapping him and catching him at half court. As soon as he crossed half court, they trapped. Every time he got the ball in his hands, like, soon as, you know, as soon as you see the double team coming, why just get that thing out your hands right away?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, he's been talking about how teams have just been doubling him and making other guys beat him. So if you playing the Houston Rockets, you want KD to get the ball out of his hands. Cause he's such a political scorer. Like, I don't want him making too many decisions. And more importantly, Uncle Ocho, I don't want him comfortable period, point blank. So I'm in this jock. I'm in him the whole time. Ocho look and he catch it. We bring in a double team. Our double team ain't soft. It's gonna be a tough double team to wear. Yes. We put these hands on you, you know, borderline fouling to some degree, making it tough. And then the back line is like a db, you know what I'm saying? You may have two guys for a split second, you feel what I'm saying? And they playing it to the tee, bro. They trapped him, they trapped kd and they trapped Sengun like that all night. Sengun kind of had it going, but they just want to get KD out the game. And I thought Issa came to the. To the pressure on Ocho. Meaning he came out looking to be to, to. To. To pass the ball. Yeah, to pass the ball versus man ukd, bro, just be aggressive, get to your spots. Them dudes can't. You gotta go quick when you get it. Cause you know the double coming, you know what I mean? And I just thought he just kind of settled for it a little bit tonight.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you notice a lot of the double they put, they put Ayton at the top.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now you got seven foot with his hands up and you bringing a double. Here come Austin Reeves, here come Marcus Smart, here come Luke Canard. Yeah, they're bringing it because the one thing I don't want him to do, I don't want him to go left because if he dribbles left, he gonna pull up.

[Joe Johnson]

You already know.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now if you notice the double teams come from the left to keep him from going left. We pin him, we get him pinned, we get him trapped. The line, we got him. We gotta make him give it up. Now the last thing that you want to do is try to trap LeBron a Yokich that high out, right? Because they're going to be able to swing the ball all the way across court. Yeah, yeah. If you see they trapped Jokic. What did Yogic do? He found a hardaway, junior way in the off corner for a knock down three. That's what KD is, a score. Yeah, I wanna, I want to make him do something that he's not comfortable doing. Can you? Yes, but that's not where he's most comfortable. He's most comfortable. One dribble, pull up. One, two, three dribbles, pull up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

One, two. Oh, I'm getting to the. That's what he wants to do. He does not want to like dribble, dribble and try to scan like, okay, where they coming from? That's not what he wants to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He wants the one dribble, pull up. One, two, pull up. One, two,. Three, pull up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And if you can keep him from doing that, it's a lot easier said than done because he still can shoot over the top of you. But once I make him pick that dribble up, I got him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Because the thing, Uncle Ocho, he's, you know, he's an aggressive scorer, but he's a, he's a rhythm guy. KD's a rhythm guy. So if I can disrupt that rhythm. Cause when he catch it on the ISO, you know, he want to hit you with that hang dribble left and shoot his pull up. He want to catch a rhythm. So if I'm the opposite, if I'm the defensive team, soon as he try to get into his bag, I'm bringing the double team. That's going to knock him out rhythm. Now he don't know if you really want to shoot it or if he got to get off of it. So then if I get you to start second guessing yourself, you ain't even thinking about going into your bag no more. You thinking about this dude who coming to double. Now I just need to make sure I get it to Jabari Smith or Shepherd or the Thompson kid, you know what I mean? Versus continue to be aggressive, to be able to make plays. But he gonna have to figure that part out.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And this is how you know he wasn't aggressive. He only had 11 shot attempts.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jabari Smith Jr. Had 15, Tari Eason had 13. Shingoon 15. Amen Thompson, 19. Reed shepherd had more shot attempts than KD. As long as I keep him down here in these numbers like this here, he's not in that 19, 20, 22. I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

We got a great.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm good. What? I'm good. I'm good. Hey. And he only shot three free throws.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So now he's not aggressive, looking for a shot. And he's not putting pressure on the defense, trying to get to the basket and getting fouls. We're cool.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm good with that. Yeah. I'm living with that all day long.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Great game plan.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought the Lakers ran into the tea the past couple of games. I'm talking about, man, they. They had him so flustered out there. I could see the frustration on his face.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Joe, you said he kept looking at a coach on the sideline.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They need a point guard.

[Joe Johnson]

He making.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't have a point guard. I don't care. Amin Thompson is not a point guard. That would be a much better team. I don't know what it. Look, Chris Paul, he done. He retired. That's long gone back. But when Van Fleet got hurt, I

[Joe Johnson]

mean, man, you know, he tore his ACL Ocho what, eight, nine months ago.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, yeah, he done for the year.

[Joe Johnson]

He done ain't no. I mean, I can't see him coming back being this year and being effective. Like, I think they gonna kind of have to roll with what they got. I mean, I don't know if they can sign anybody.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, ain't nobody out there that can help him. And the problem that they ran into Ocho and Joe is that they signed. They signed KD and then Van Fleet did that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't believe. I don't know if they signed him. If Van Fleet's out.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because you're counting on him. You have somebody that can run an offense that can get him the ball in his spots.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I. I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't mind Shingoon. I don't mind Armin Thompson taking those shots, because I'd rather they take those shots than Kevin Durant tickets.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. There you go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can live with them.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I can live with them. So. But they look. The Lakers look good. They're playing really well. Luke is going to be. Luca Lucas gonna get off to a hot start. He's leading the NBA with almost about 12 points in the first quarter, which would be, I think, the most in a shot clock era if he were to average that. Any quarter he's gonna finish, he gets off to that hot start. And once he gets it going, it's a wrap. I mean, you. You. If. If he ever. If he hit, he knocks down those first threes, you can kiss a goodbye. So now he gonna put. Hey, he gonna push you. You're gonna try to. Hey, you're gonna try to hug up on him. Now he gonna get by you, get you on his back. He gonna stop, you're gonna jump into him, and he gonna get an A and 1.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you lay back on you try to lay like. Okay, he gonna. Hey, he gonna snatch it, pull up.

[Joe Johnson]

He controlled the game, bro.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

He controls the game. He can foul bait you, and then once he go to foul baiting you, you don't even want to foul. So now he know he can shoot that. Step back with no assistance. He know you ain't really gonna contest. Now he got you at his mercy. You know what I mean? You dead.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And you see, they tried to bring a Kogi in to try to pick him up full court. Okay. Come on. That's what you want to do. He. He go. He gonna get you in file trouble. So that's the thing. You've gotta. You've got to be able to throw a lot of different bodies. And the thing is, that's what okc. That's what San Antonio can do. They can throw a lot of different people at him. They're not a whole lot of teams that have the bodies that can throw at Luca that can bother him.

[Joe Johnson]

Right. Right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But when you got. You got Dort that You can throw at him. You got Wallace, you can throw at him. You got Casey, you can throw at him. You got Caruso that you can throw at him. You can throw so many different guys at him. And obviously with San Antonio, with those guys, champagne. And you got Castle. Castle is. Castle needs to be first team, all defense. I don't care what y' all say.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. They. Hey, they built the way you down.

[Uncle Ocho]

And listen, I know you love your Lakers. You know, Lakers and five. All that joke.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho]

And you know, we talked about. Now we talk about regular season now when we talk about postseason. Now, do y' all still have the faith in the Lakers to be able to. To win a series even. Even in the first round?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. It all depends on who they get the first round. Yeah, it's gonna be very difficult for them to. But look, when you got a guy like Luca, Luca can get 40.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

LeBron.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, LeBron is playing the perfect role. This role for LeBron is the third option. It only works if Austin Reed's gonna give you what he's normally been giving you. Now he's kind of been. He's kind of been off. But if Austin Reed's gonna give you his typical 25 points, well, there's no big deal. Yeah, LeBron to play that third option. LeBron don't even really be looking for his shots. If you look at it, he gets like eight points on run out dunks. He'll get one where they throw it to him down. He got the guy pinned on his back. Yeah, he'll lay it up. Yeah, he'll hit a three, and then other than that. But he's not really looking for a shot anymore. Yeah, think about. He got 14. He got 14 shots up tonight. Made 13 of them.

[Uncle Ocho]

Eight. Man, LeBron is that aware where. I don't need to be the aggressor anymore. I don't have to be the one to leave because Luca is doing what he's doing.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. You say, hey, O. Joe, he's taking a career low. Shots, shot attempts. This is a career low for him.

[Joe Johnson]

You see how hard. You see how hard Kevin Durant gotta work?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, over there.

[Joe Johnson]

And they. And they. And they wearing him down. Braun don't want to be like that, bro. You know, be that Swiss army knife. Yeah, I'm gonna come out and get you 20 to 30 points a night. Tonight. He was feeling good, getting the rhythm. He gonna be hard to stop his understanding of the game knowing how not to get in the way of Luka And AR and just play his game. He's gonna be perfect for him, bro. I think Unc and Ocho, I don't want to see them match up against the Timberwolves because the Timberwolves swept them. Maybe they want some get back, but they, it's, it's matchups, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, we, we, we. We've been putting that thing. We got, we got, we got the number now. Cause. Cause look, the thing is, Joe, what's up? Rudy Gobert ain't gonna go. Ain't Gonna have a 27, 20 game.

[Joe Johnson]

He might have one. All he need is to have one. Huh? That's the problem.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, problem is ant man having two 40 point games. That's the problem.

[Joe Johnson]

And McDaniel, ant man gonna have a couple 40 point games. I can promise you that.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The thing is, is that I think now the bench, you know, and I keep, I keep beating on this in Chad. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but Luke Canard, when he comes in the game, he used to be a spot up. Luke Canard is looking to put the ball on the floor. He's looking to threaten the defense, and I love that. Yes, he can shoot the three, but hey, run him off the line and see when he put it on the floor and get to the rim.

[Joe Johnson]

He helping them win games. And this absolutely in this win streak that they got, he is definitely helping them win games. He has been a, a great piece. He was just out here in Atlanta playing with the Hawks.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

He get to la, he out there balling like a dog.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, I, I appreciate that. And you see LeBron hey, getting to the rim, two flush, passing a.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ain't gonna lie. Ain't gonna lie.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Pull up. Aiden chat. Hey, pull up. Aiden said what I've been saying all along. Ain't say, that ain't me. Yo, you got it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, Aiden look good, huh?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Put his whole. Pull his whole quote up. Yeah. Deandre Ayton says he noticed how locked in Luca and LeBron are and said he's tired of being the odd man out. Aiden is also relearning how to make an impact without being the focus of an offense. He was like, we gonna pull his quotes up. Because he said like, bro, this ain't it.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This ain't it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, hell, he showed it tonight. See, he wait for 10 with 16 on him. With 16.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, he, he probably.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He activity.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he probably. He probably had different expectations coming into this season. Probably thinking they was gonna play through him and things like that, but they need him to be high energy. Pick and roll.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Lobs, catch it in the little dunker spot. Make your little jump hooks, your little floaters right there in the paint. Be a big presence defensively, you know? Yeah, you may not block a lot of shots, but we need you to alter a few down here, you know what I mean? And let's start the break and get going. And if he done figured that out, Lakers might be on or something. Unc. Y' all might be all right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the thing is, Joe, look, out of 30 teams, there ain't a whole lot of bigs getting the offense run through them. Yoke Embiid when he's fully healthy. That's about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no other big get no offense run through them.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jokic and Embiid, when Embiid is healthy.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Other than that, get it off the rim.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hold on. What about young boy down there in San Antonio? Oh, he only had the foe, but he don't.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He don't play no post. He don't play no wig. He bought like a stretch. Yeah, no, he. He a five, but he's a stretch. Yeah, he's shooting threes. He out there. He's. He's shooting middies.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's. This is what deandre Ayton said. I just started looking in the mirror and said, yo, bro, you're not that guy. You don't need to be this. On this team, doing that and all this team. You come in here to be an effort guy and to close out possessions, rebound, run the damn floor hard as hell, make bigs work, make superstars work. And I'm having fun with it. I'm not gonna lie. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, once I sit that long, that's usually it. It's like you out of the game for a reason. Go think about it. But lately he's been D8. Nah, D A. You good. And I've completely bought in. Completely. Like 100. I hope you see the work.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like it. Yeah, you've been saying it for a minute. But listen, we talk about one.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle Ocho]

We talk about one game, right? And most of the time, when it comes to players, Joe and all, you know, if it's either it's in you or it's not, you know, you say the right things, but it all comes down to your play. If you ain't been that type of player your whole career, all of a sudden you ain't gonna magically turn into somebody else all of a sudden, could you see what other players are doing on the court? You should already lock in.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But here's the thing. He's never been around.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's never been around two players like Luca and LeBron.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Book is good, but he ain't LeBron. And, and, and Luca. Chris Paul is good. And, and, and, and, and if you go back in Portland. Yeah, but those guys are different animals. And he see how they approach it. It's hard when you watch LeBron. By the time you get there, he's already got a shoot around, he's already got a lift in, and he's just waiting on practice to start.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So he's already done. You see that? You see Luca in every game. He's trying to literally kill somebody. And he said, all I gotta do is run the damn flow. Think about how many lives he get, how many lives he get from Luca, how many lives he get from LeBron, how many lobs he get from AR. That's only.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

16 points.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Uncle Ocho, man, and, and ain't nothing wrong with that, bro. They play a lot of money for guys to do that.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

The rim run blocks, rebound, have high energy, you know, act like you care when you act, man. They pay a lot of money for that, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You play. You played the game, right? Like, at what point does it get like that? To a point where it takes you being and playing with certain individuals for you to play a certain way, when it should already be in you. Well, how you gonna tell me? Oh. Cause now I'm playing with the Lakers. Oh. Now I need to be a different player. Oh. Now I need to be motivated and inspired because of the way they play. You should have been that animal long

[Joe Johnson]

ago

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

when it comes to you.

[Uncle Ocho]

When you play, when you play tight end, you mean you had to play with the greats in order for you to be great? You locked in that, Joe, That's. That's already in you. You can't. You can't teach that. Either you got it or you don't.

[Joe Johnson]

So there you go, Ocho.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When you.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't know until you get around some much better players. And then you like, hold on. Okay, this dude a little different or, you know, he trained a little different, or he always locked in. You know what I mean? Like, you got some cats, they wait, okay, game at 7 o'. Clock, they wait till 5 o' clock to focus and lock in. But then you got some cats, Ocho, they naturally Just locked in from the night before. Like they sleep. They sleep about it, they dream about it. This is. They love the game that much. You know what I mean?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Some.

[Joe Johnson]

Some cats just don't move like that.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Here's the biggest thing. Ocho Hughes, the number one pick in the draft. The number one pick in the draft. Get the offense run through them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to be Jokic, he's supposed to be in bead. You dump the ball down to me, you clear out so the double can't come and let me go to work. So in his mind, as the number one overall pick. Pick. That is his expectations. The number one overall pick. I get the ball, I handle the ball as the number one option. I get whatever I want to get. If I want to shoot 25 times, I shoot 25 times. Right, but you run, but that's not on this team. He's never going to be number one. So if he. He could get easy buckets, all he has to do is run the floor like, like Joe say, run to the front of the rim, man, put pressure on the defense. Either they gonna come take Luca and he gonna live it up. And you go get easy dunk, or they're gonna come get LeBron or AR. They bounce it to you and do you dunk at home and when they go to the rim, follow them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because somebody gonna try to block the shot. And that's an easy put back for you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and that's. That's the bonus you get for playing with guys with high IQs like LeBron.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Because not only can they score the ball at a high efficient rate, they're so great and they have such a great feel for the game that they understand. Okay, boom. Aiden ain't had one. Let's give him an easy one, you know what I mean? Let's do a live. Let's give them a touch or two. Because we know if we give you a lob dunk or some easy buckets, we know how hard you're gonna play on the other end. You know what I mean? So we gotta keep feeding you every now and then. So all you gotta do, you set them picks, rim run, get them dudes open. Lakers might have a chance to do a little something.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look at, look at when Luca was in Dallas. Look at lively. Look at, look at, look at Daniel Gafford.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When LeBron played with Tristan Thompson. Got Tristan Thompson, 80 million.

[Joe Johnson]

He couldn't shoot a 15 footer.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm serious.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You didn't know if he was left handed or right handed, but hey, the checks every two once them, the 1st and the 15th. The check was a direct deposit.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. You knew. You knew you was gonna get all that hustle from him. He was gonna outwork his man. He was gonna down and rim run. That's all he did, bro.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's all. We're not asking you to be Jokic. We don't need you to be Joel Embiid. All we need for you to give us consistent effort, man. That's it. We don't need Ocho. It would be great if he gave us 15 and 10 on a nightly basis, but we understand Sunday it might be 8 and 12.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All we want is consistent effort. And if you look at the last four to five games, that's what he's giving you. That's what they need from him. They got enough scoring. Yeah, you got Luca and you got AR. You got LeBron. Rui gonna hit you some big shots. Marcus Smart is playing extremely well. I like the way Marcus Smart is playing. He's only. He's a defensive hound, drawing charges, taking the ball away. I love the way he plays.

[Joe Johnson]

Huge pickup. Huge pickup for the Lakers to get him. But I'll to kind of piggyback what you said. I think Aiden has realized with this one, he want to continue. He want to do it at a high efficient rate, which is why he's acknowledging, you know, damn, we got a chance to really be a pretty good team. If I just do my part, bro. Do his part. Luke could do his part. AR do his part collectively as a team, we might could come out of here and squeeze us around the tooth, huh?

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, and guess what? And guess what, Joe? What's up, man? I mess around the average 12 and 12 in the postseason, somebody might write me a check for 200. Yeah, man. What?

[Uncle Ocho]

Wait.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause guess what, like 25, 26. Yeah, he probably about. No, he about 27. I think he about 27.

[Joe Johnson]

I think he gonna have to really do something in the Postseason to get 200 it. But he could. He. It can happen. Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. He's 27. So. You know them postseason runs, Joe. They go a long way. Yeah, yeah, I remember your postseason running. Phoenix got you. You know what I'm saying? I saw that joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, now.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, yo, Joe would give the bucket.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Ojo. I had my money made when I broke my orbital bone. I ain't even had to come back, but I came back anyway.

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[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, it gave and put work on him.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, we supposed to had got us one, bro. Hey, hey, we always together one year, man. I got a chance to play with Nash. One year, obviously. Amari, Sean Marion and Quentin Richard only got to play for one year, man. Them dudes like my brothers, man.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

I promise y', all, all we needed was three years. We at least got one. We got one.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I think that. I think that's the thing is that need consistent effort, and he's giving him consistent effort. The numbers are going to be what they be. Some. Some days he might give you 20 and 10. Some days it might be 10 and 12. Some days it might be a 16, 4 and 2 game. Yeah, but all they need is the consistent effort. If he gives them consistent effort, I can live with anything else. Oh, what do you tell us, Ocho? Just play fast. If you make a mistake, make it full speed. So we'll coach up? We'll coach. Son, I coach up, but I just want you. If you make a mistake, make it full speed. Just don't half ass it.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go, son. Go, go. What are you waiting on out there?

[Uncle Ocho]

Thinking.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go, go. Full speed.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I think that's one thing about Sharp. He might not know what the hell he doing, but he going there in a hurry. Yep, I'm going full. Hey, coach me up later. I bust hell out of somebody.

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